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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to a new episode of

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the Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His

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name is Tim Duckworth. As I try to adjust this microphone

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because everything here is messed up. Everything here is messed up. Okay,

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stop messing with my studio. It's unbelievable, it's unreal. How

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are you good? Thanks, Mike, you're looking You look like

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you are the Australian version of whoever that guy was

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on Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 2: Sam Neil? Is that real name?

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Speaker 3: Is that who it is?

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Speaker 1: I'm horrible with names, so I don't know. Yeah, Sam Neil, Yeah,

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that's like the style of hat that I feel like

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he had.

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Speaker 4: It is a cattleman zacubra in rabbit fur direct from Melbourne, Australia.

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Speaker 2: Pairs well with my.

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Speaker 4: You hear that, Peter Kangaroo, I say that cowboy boots.

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Speaker 1: You hear that?

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Speaker 2: You hear that? I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure Pete

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is okay, Tod all right.

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Speaker 1: Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky winning the fifty k PPC

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Grinder Grinder Grinder Grinder, his fourth one two three four

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fourth PPC title. Absolutely dominant performance down the stretch, even

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extends before the final day of play. Speaking of dominance,

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Sina Okamoto absolutely steam rolling through the Ladies Championship. She

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leads the final table one more day to go. In

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that event, we have a first time w SP gold

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Brace the winner Elong Wang winning the three K no

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limit hold them, and then the Gladiators of Poker became

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the second largest live poker tournament ever in the the

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history of the game, if you can believe it. So

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a very very very big day here at the World

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Series of Poker. I am still very very tired from

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last night, very very tired. So it is eleven fifteen pm,

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quite a bit earlier than the three point thirty or

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whatever the heck it was last night. So get out

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of here a couple hours earlier than we did last night.

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I am operating on three hours of sleep. Is absolutely ridiculous.

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I don't know why I do it, but it's silly.

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If you're listening, the least I can ask for it,

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just just hit the button, like subscribe to the channel.

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do that. I mean, come on, we're grinding here for you, guys,

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so please help us out, make us feel good. Or

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if you want to talk some crap, I mean you

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can do that too, go into the YouTube comments, talk

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some smack all you want. We'll probably talk some smack

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will say that producer Rich I know is listening, I

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have a gripe with the every hour on the half hour.

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You don't like the half outd So here's the thing.

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They do tournament breaks. So you play for twenty five

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minutes and then you break. Yeah, seems a little silly.

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Should just be on it every hour. That way, you

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play for fifty five minutes, because like you're all of

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a sudden you're playing, you're getting in the swinging thing

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and it's like boom break.

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Speaker 2: It's like wait, they just started even weird.

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Speaker 1: This is no light registration, right, Yeah, but they should

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just start it earlier so you play for a longer

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period of time, right, So that's what I think. So second,

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so I'm sending a I'm sending a note to the

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suggestion box, which is me through the podcast to you, Rich,

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I forgot my water.

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Speaker 3: Damn it.

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Speaker 1: As you die, it makes me think that I've forgot

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my water. So hopefully I can make it through this

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without dying. Play poker go dot com, Come play some

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free online for We had a lot of fun in

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those free roles, those million Goald free rolls. He had

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a lot of fun the past couple days. Hopefully we'll

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keep those up, especially during the WSP main event broadcast.

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Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky, this guy and this tournament

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is something I'm not sure I would believe it, but

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I have seen it with my own eyes, so I'm

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forced to believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's unfathomable that he has won this tournament,

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the toughest, most grueling poker tournament in the world, against

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the most elite competition. Crazy buying, fifty k, I mean,

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just all of it. It has everything, right, Yeah, and

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he's won it not once, not twice, not three times,

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but now four times. Ultimately, it was miss Rocky's seventh

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w Sipeagle bracelet, one point three three million dollars coming

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his way as well his sixth cash in this event

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as well. He took home as I said, one point

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three to three million bring Kenny second, eight hundred and

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eighty seven K Esther Taylor aka e K five hundred

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and ninety K for her. She took or she finished,

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the deepest that a female has ever finished in this event.

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The previous one was Melissa Burr twenty fourteen. She took seventh.

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And those are the only two women to cash in

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this one. Andrew ja got fourth, Jalvier got fifth, Albert

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Daher got sixth, and Ben Lamb got seventh. Those are

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the final seven players to come back for the fifth

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and final day of play. What do you got for

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me here? You're typing stats.

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Speaker 4: Type of stat in yeah that you said six cash

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for Michael Mzrahi in the PPC six million and sixty

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four thousand dollars in PPC earnings aligne just.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is crazy. This guy is wild.

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Now I will say this. He ran like freaking God

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on the final day. But he did put himself in

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that position to run like God, so you can't fault him.

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I'm a bit jealous of a Sun run like that.

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All around, there was some really fun hands, you know,

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I think, even extending back to day four and Day three,

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a lot of really fun hands in this one. We

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did stream I believe it am onto two and a

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half days of coverage of this tournament, so if you

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guys want to check that out, you can go find

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it on demand on poker dot com. For this final table,

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the great Ali Najade was in the booth alongside he

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ever so talented Jared Blessnik, and it was tremendous. Blesnick

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of course spoke his mind as he always does in

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the booth. You know, he gives great insight, yes, but

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he also doesn't hold back. If he thinks you played bad,

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he's gonna say you freaking torched it. So it makes

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for a very very very entertaining watch. So if you

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missed it out highly and you guys to go and

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watch that. I mean, mss Rocky just steamrolled this whole

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final table. I mean right from the start, he was

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just boom out the gate flying when he gets to

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three handed play. It's just like he's like taking chips

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from Taylor. He's taken chips from Kenny, then from Taylor,

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then from Kenny. Next thing, you know, he's got like

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twenty seven million, they both have like three million. He's

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just running away with the thing. Eta goes out in

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third miss Rocky's heads up with Kenny. He's got thirty

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million to like the two and a half or three

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million for Kenny. Like it's just like it's just insurmountable.

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He's never coming back from that. With the way the

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Grinder was playing and running, it's just never happening. It

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just also was one of those things where it just

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it felt like Michael mss Rocky's tournament. I mean, I'm

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gonna say, on day three, I know, you and I

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were walking through the field and I was like, really

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like really, he's still in like he's still doing it.

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He's still got a big stack over there, and you

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just can kind of sense it, you know, being around

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the game for so long.

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Speaker 4: So so yeah, yeah, I mean it felt like everything

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was going his way, and even you look at that

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final hand, you know, at the final hand he pushes

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Bran off of pat nine induced to seven.

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Speaker 2: Off the best hand. Yeah, off the hand.

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Speaker 4: If Brin stays pat, he doubles up, he doubles up,

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he decides to break. He's nine to seven to Joe

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to a wheel, pairs up his deuce. Grinder had the

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ten six, pushed him off and like, you know, what

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is what is your day?

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Speaker 2: It's just your day, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean he kind of he kind of mindfed him

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on that final hand, which I think Grinder did quite

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a bit of, you know, especially late on day four.

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You know, a lot of talking to his opponents, kind

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of manipulating them in one direction or another. The same

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sort of thing happened at times today at the final

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table or yesterday at the final table. I should say

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there was one key hand where I thought Jalvierra made

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a mistake folding top hair with jack three when Grinder

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ripped it in with an open ended straight flustra on

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the turn.

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Speaker 2: Believe that was Nolan hold.

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Speaker 1: Him, yeah, Jalli thought, thought, thought thought ultimately folded the

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best hand. Now, of course, there was still one card

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to come, so Grinder could have Hitten with the way

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that he was running. I mean, he probably would have

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just smashed straight flush. But still I don't I didn't

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understand how Via folded that hand in that spot. I

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think there were a lot of people, you know, he

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was getting a lot of texts, different group chats or

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whatever that were watching the stream. We're in the same boat.

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But that's the type of day that it was for

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Michael mcrocky. You know, he whenever he was drawing, he

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like immediately drew to the best hand whenever he needed

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to get a bluff through, as evidenced by the fact

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that I mean it was a semi bluff, yes, but

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still like he didn't have to go to the river,

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go to showdown against Ja Viera. Jau just folded, so

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like everything just worked out. Even when he got on

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the final hand, as you mentioned, he got the best

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hand to break and he ultimately wins it. So a really,

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really incredible stellar performance from Michael mcrocky, and we had

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the chance to sit down with him afterwards. So let's

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hear from the grinder, all right, Mike now won the

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fifty KPPC four times, something no one else has ever done.

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What is it about this event that brings out the

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best in you?

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Speaker 3: Well, when you're playing out to playing the best. You

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got to be the best, you know, and it's just

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I've just been very fortunate. I don't even know how

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to do it, tell you truth. I mean, it's kind

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of crazy. I had a shot twenty five times at

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a shot last year and then I had a straight bubble.

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But I don't know. I just run really well in

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this tournament and I'm having a good I mean, I

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have a great World Series before. I think it's my

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eleventh cash that had probably fourteen events. So but I

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paid a lot of small ones. The only big one

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I played so far, but I plan on playing that

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ten kp lot tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know, just the event.

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I just run good. I can't even explain it. I

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don't know. I played my I probably played my best

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I played. I probably played better than the last three

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ones I played. So yeah, feeling good, just experience. I

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think that's why I probably played better this one than

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the ones in the past.

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Speaker 1: All right, take us back, you know, before the bracelets,

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before the titles, Poker still a dream to you, did

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you ever like think that it could amount to this

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all this success?

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Speaker 3: Tell you the truth that and ever, I mean I

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thought that in the beginning, I knew I had the talent.

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I started when I was fourteen, fifteen years old, you know,

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you know, always looked up to Rob. You know, he's

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but I always felt like, you know, we have we're

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guiding Charlie, you know, we just he was my more,

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my mentor, and then we learned a lot from each other,

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and a lot was just self taught and then just

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watching people play it just you know, just I was

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like kind of like transforming from learning from this one

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this one, this one, I'm making my own game and

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then just and I just I make those. You know,

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I'm play a lot of cash, and I played more.

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Actually i've played. I've been playing a lot more cash.

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I haven't played a tournament in a year. Tell you

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was the last tournament I played, won the World Series event.

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It was online. Then I haven't been I haven't payed

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a tournament since last since last year. And now it's like

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I'm playing a lot of cash. But now after you

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win a few tournaments, you're like, you feel good about it,

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you want to keep doing it. It's confidence.

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Speaker 1: Every poker career has its ups and downs. I'm sure

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yours has had its fair share of it as well.

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You know, what do you know the highs and the

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lows teach you about life?

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Speaker 3: I could, I've been up here, been down there, I've

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seen everything, but I keep them at like I just

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always keep my composure, like I know I'll get it

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back if I'm go down. I know I'm not worried.

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I know my talent and my skill will get me

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where I want to be.

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Speaker 1: And here it is, and part of that has to

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be the supports. Isn't that you have every time you're deep?

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You got a big rail? How is that support system?

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Speaker 3: What does it mean to you? I mean I have

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the best best friends, best family, I mean, my kids,

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just everyone just very supportive. When I'm down. They're always

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there for me. Even when I'm high, there here for me.

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But like just I got a great real Okay, I

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can't say that I love them all.

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Speaker 1: When people talk about the legends of the game, do

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you feel like your name gets mentioned enough?

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Speaker 3: I think it does. Maybe this will this might get

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it done. I would think so after four PPC titles,

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and it's quite an accomplishment. And I have no words

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to express. I mean, this is crazy. I can't even

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believe it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have your sights on the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. I mean I didn't. I'm not in it yet,

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but it pushed me to work harder. It motivates me.

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But if I'm not in it, so I'll keep working.

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But I don't make it. Next year a good launer,

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maybe I'll win the PPC again.

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Speaker 1: Four PPC titles. What does this win say about Michael Msrocky.

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Speaker 3: I'm the PPC champ baby.

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Speaker 1: Just the best, just absolutely the best. You're gonna tie

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this into a new password?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean, uh, I've heard the complaints from

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the people.

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Speaker 2: The people are complaining. Huh, people are complaining. I'm not

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gonna name names.

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Speaker 1: I think you should name names.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to.

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Speaker 4: I think they know who they are. Simple as that.

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We're going to be a new password for those who

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are new listeners. You're following us, you know on YouTube,

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seat into our PGT one million dollar Championship.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: You can sit with Jeremy Osmas, you could sit with

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potentially Michael the Grandamrahi, Daniel Grinder. All these guys are

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qualify for our million dollar free roll and you're going

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to represent the Publiclar Podcast. It's very very easy, lots

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It's got a bunch of things you have to do.

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we put in a password. We put this password in

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gives you ten extra Raffle tickets, and we're going to

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change this as much as we can.

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Speaker 2: End of October, I believe we'll draw a winner.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, the more things you enter, the more passwords, more

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tickets you get. You may have that seat to represent

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us in the tam million Dollar Championship first prize five

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hundred thousand dollars. You know, not too many podcasts give

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you the chance to win half a million dollars. We

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are probably know we're the only one that's about twenty

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five k worth of equity. So today's password is going

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to be I think it's very fitting. It's going to

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be grinder.

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Speaker 2: It makes total sense.

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Speaker 4: G I N d er grinder. Put that in, you

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get your ten extra tickets. And like I said, if

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you knew a bunch of other things you can do

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follow us. There's a retweet option kinds of visit page here,

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visit this page there. And there's some old passwords too,

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so you can go back and try and find those.

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But I think during the main would try and maybe

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do it every day if I have, if I can

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remember to stay on top of it. But yeah, we're

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trying to get you guys into the PGT Million Dollar Championship.

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Speaker 2: That'd be a good one.

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Speaker 1: On the coverage today, Blesnik was calling this well at

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the time, he was saying, if Grinder does go on

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to win, it would be the greatest accomplishment in poker history.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree or disagree?

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Speaker 4: Well, my boy Bill Boyd may have some of the

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someone quit the listening at home are not allowed to talk,

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but anyone pre nineteen ninety, just for the Donnie Peters

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iron if you're watching this on YouTube, you would have

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witnessed it was perfect greatest accomplishment in poker.

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Speaker 2: What is what's it? What's it is?

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Speaker 4: His competition? Okay Friedman, he did it three in a row,

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yep mark Newhouse, back to back final tables. All right,

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it doesn't even register.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So let's said, as let's grinding, let's put it all

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in a bucket and see which one flows to the top,

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is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: What else could we even put in there at.

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Speaker 4: The WSP Well, I mean I think it's Aaron Cummings

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back to back to seven triple Joe wins.

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Speaker 1: I mean the closest comparison is obviously Adam Friedman.

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Speaker 2: Yep, So do you yeah? Do you yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you add some weight to Friedman? Because

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one he did it three consecutive wins? Okay, there's that

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also in your opinion, Like if you're waiting it, do

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you consider Dealer's Choice to be a little bit more

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of a difficult game than a nine game mix, which

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has a structure it flows, you know from games one

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through nine, it goes from one to one one, you know,

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it keeps going through them, whereas Dealer's Choice, like, I mean,

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you have no idea what anyone's going to pick, Like

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they could throw you for a loop. There's what is

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the twenty one games in the in the rotation game,

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so you know there's that element. I would say that

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the I know, the money is bigger. Of course in

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the fifty k PPC, it's five times to buy, and yes,

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but fields are probably very very very similar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, skill wise, numbers wise, I think winning I'm going

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to say winning a dealer's choice might be slightly harder

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than winning the PPC just because of what you said.

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You're going to be playing games that you know, maybe

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you know you have never played. We saw a tweet

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I think it was a tweet from David gunslinger Buck

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today he is a PPC winner, wanted to play some

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cash and he played these silly circus games of Badaci

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and Baduci. Well that's kind of the core of mixed

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game cash game mixed games now, so that's part of

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the dealer's choice. So, you know, I think winning a

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dealer's choice is maybe slightly harder. But the fact that

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grind has been able to win four of these over

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you know, pretty much what is it. First one was

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twenty ten, you know, fifteen years and it's beening in

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different variations. He won the eight game when it was

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no limit holding final table. He won the eight games, oh,

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very first one. Yeah, his first one was that, his

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second one was normal eight game, and now and now

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he's got the nine game one. So I he's wanted

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in two different formats, well three really different formats, I

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guess you could say. And the fact that he's got four,

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I just you just it's hot to not give him

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the advantage the upper hand in this in this discussion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving it to Grinder for sure. I think

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I agree with Buzzle, like this is the greatest accomplishment

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that we've seen in poker. Now. What's also interesting is

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that there's somebody that could do it if they just

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win this tournament once more, and that's Brian Rast, which

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is pretty wild to think about.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: For as good as it is for Michael Mnsrocky to

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win four PPC titles, there is another player that, you know,

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in one year's time, we could be talking about him

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tying that incredible record, which is wild to think about.

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Very interesting stuff. Congratulations to Grinder, very very very cool

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night here at the World Series of Poker. And then

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speaking of dominance, kind of in the same ve, we

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got Shina Okamoto dominating the Ladies Championship. She is one

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of seven entering Sunday's final table. There were more than

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thirteen hundred entries in this field. Now, Okamoto, if you

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recall if that name sounds familiar, if you've seen pictures

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of her and you're like, where have I seen that

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face before? Well, two years ago she took second in

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this very event for one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars,

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and then last year she went and won. Uped herself.

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She said, you know what, second's not good enough.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna win the damn thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she won it for one hundred and seventy

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one thousand dollars, and now she has a fairly sizable

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chip lead. Entering the final table, she has twenty four

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more big blinds than second place. Seven players remain. They

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are guaranteed twenty six thousand dollars, one hundred and eighty

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four thousand dollars up top, and Okamota is freaking in

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the driver's seat again.

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Speaker 2: She's absolutely crushing and I don't understand what's happening.

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Speaker 4: It's just like we didn't understand Grind and we don't

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understand this either. She's just ever since day one, Like

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you said, second in chips now chip leader.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of just crazy. It was.

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Speaker 4: What's funny, though, is I was over there after dinner break.

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You know, I was going to talk to the ladies

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about the plan of the day, and our resident bio writer, Keegan,

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who was handing out the bioboards and we were chatting.

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He goes, yeah, like you know, oh, we have to

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give him out to everyone. He goes everyone, but you know,

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she know, like, oh yeah, obviously he goes. They're filling

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it out. He leans into her, He's like, is there

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anything you want to add to this?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Like, you know, she already got We've done it twice,

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so we don't really need her age again or her

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name again. We've got all that information. And she points

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to the like biggest accomplishment and like she goes, just

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change this one from to last year. You know, her

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English isn't great, but we could, we both, you know,

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Kegan laughed.

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Speaker 2: She laughed.

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Speaker 4: You know, so obviously her greatest accomplishment last year was

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second the Ladies now makes it's obviously winning, so that's

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her on them. Then who knows next year when she's

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chip later in the twenty twenty six Ladies Championship, she's

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gonna say, you know, the two wins I have in

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this event, So she's gonna be basically the next Michael's Manserahi,

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but for the Ladies Championship.

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Speaker 1: You know, I listened, actually finished it up this morning

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on the Drive in but to the Table one podcast

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Justin Young and Art Parman. But they had on Chris Brewer,

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and Chris was talking about, you know, his career and

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his life in the game and whatever, and at one

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point he mentioned how he doesn't really believe the confidence

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is a thing in poker, and I'm sorry, but I

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just to disagree. Now, I mean, he did explain himself

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a little bit further. When I say I have to

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disagree with him, I'm I'm, you know, half joking, but

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I do. I do believe confidence is a big thing.

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And like as it pertains to shea Okamoto, like she

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has to feel supremely confident when she comes into the

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Ladies Championship every year, and I think it then shows

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through her play like she's just she's just doing it,

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and every decision that she makes she must just feel like, yes,

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this is the right one and yes this is gonna work,

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and there's no cloud in her judgment. She's just able

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to come whatever the right answer is. So I do

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think that there's a lot to say about confidence in poker. Now,

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if you do actually listen to the Table one podcast

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with Chris brew which I would highly recommend because it's

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very good. But he talked about how confidence and you

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know it maybe isn't so much of a thing in

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the way that I'm referring to it at the most

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elite levels, because you know, those players, the Chris Brewers,

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00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,720
the Steven Chidwick's, the Nick Petrangelo's, you know, Shawn Winter's,

473
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,240
all those guys like there, They're always going to really

474
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,200
be playing their A game. It really doesn't matter. So

475
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,440
and then you know, if you're Chris also said, I

476
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,400
believe if I'm stating it correctly, but if you're B

477
00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:57,839
and C game at those levels isn't very very close

478
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,559
to your A game, then you should never just never

479
00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:03,799
be playing those levels. And the confidence factor probably applies

480
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,079
much more to lower buying stuff. You know, hence the

481
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,480
Ladies Championship, you know, which has a one K buy

482
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:12,680
and gets thirteen hundred runners. You know, this isn't a

483
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,119
Triton Field or a PGT or something like that, where

484
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,920
it's much smaller. It's more like, you know, whatever one

485
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,160
hundred entries, you know, much more elite player play or whatnot.

486
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200
Not that these women aren't very very good, because they

487
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,599
clearly are, but it's just kind of a different process

488
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,079
to go through it, right. You might not just be

489
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,960
like full robotic the whole time. You know, you're doing

490
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,039
more of like live poker player type of stuff, you know,

491
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:39,440
feeling your way through things, reading the situation, whatnot. I mean,

492
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,160
there was there was one clip that our social media

493
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,319
guys sent in that I watched where Sheena jammed I

494
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,319
believe was on the river against a lady and it

495
00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:54,400
didn't seem like it was that much more than like

496
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:56,799
what the bet was or and the pot was very big,

497
00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,960
and the woman tanked and tanked and tank and eventually folded,

498
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,920
and like the other the rest of the table is

499
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,480
kind of like how did you fold?

500
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: Like you know whatever.

501
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: But like that's where I'm thinking about the confidence thing,

502
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,640
and I'm like, well, maybe Okamota is just like no,

503
00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:11,920
I know this woman's gonna fold. I know, like I

504
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,680
know she's may maybe I think she's playing scared. She

505
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,720
is really close to the final table and she wants

506
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,000
to make it, so I'm just gonna pounce, so you know,

507
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,559
stuff like that. I think in factor in at these

508
00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:25,000
types of levels, and I think Okamoto is just executing

509
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:28,839
to absolute perfection. And it's going to be very exciting

510
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,000
to watch this stream on Sunday. Sunday, June twenty ninth,

511
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,480
the stream is going to be on Poker Go eight

512
00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:39,319
pm Eastern, five pm Pacific. We're gonna have Lawn mccaron

513
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,599
and Jen Shahade on the call. Natalie Bode is going

514
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,680
to be on the sidelines, and I'm super excited to

515
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,720
see how she does this file table. I'm I'm fully

516
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,880
expecting her to end up in the Winter Circle. I

517
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,920
just am like, I feel like it's just one of

518
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,000
those runs, much like I felt like with Michael the

519
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,960
Grinders Rocky. I am just ready again. Like I said,

520
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720
I think we should keep the name Ladies Championship because

521
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:06,039
I think this event deserves to, you know, shed light

522
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:10,000
that it is on the Ladies Championship event of the

523
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,920
world in poker, but it is presented by she and Okamoto,

524
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:16,559
like it's it's done, it's you can just, you can just.

525
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: It's toasted, it's sponsored, it's everything.

526
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean, she should be presenting the bracelet should she

527
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:22,759
not win like herself, the whole.

528
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,039
Speaker 3: Well.

529
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the case that she doesn't win, like

530
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,839
if herraces get cracked or whatever that happens, you know

531
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:31,240
she can present it because yeah, this is her event,

532
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:35,279
like it really really is. It's absolutely incredible to watch

533
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:37,440
this run. You know, even if she were to go

534
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,799
out seventh tomorrow, let's say, a second, then a first

535
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,160
and then a seventh is unheard of, absolutely unheard of.

536
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,759
So congrats so far to she and O Kamodo. But

537
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,160
like like you always think about in poker tournaments, you're

538
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,079
never really going to be happy until you win. So

539
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,559
I'm assuming she's going to be very very very interested

540
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,279
and of course gunning for that victory. She's ahead of

541
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,680
Juliet Hedjdas probably butchered that name. I'm sorry, Juliette, Stephanie

542
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:15,599
Hagberg in third, Sonya Shasha Keina, Heather Alcorn, Julie hun

543
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:18,240
and Sumiri.

544
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,039
Speaker 2: Huno Maaki.

545
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: I for sure butchered eight percent of those names, and

546
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,160
I apologize.

547
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: I think Heather, I believe, is a previous dealer of

548
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,480
the Year.

549
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, not only deal of the year. Yes, she plays

550
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:34,119
now quite a lot. She plays a lot of the

551
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,279
different games. She's had some success, and here she is

552
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,400
running deep making the final seven. She's got twenty six

553
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,839
big blinds to work with. Okamoto stack has ninety four

554
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:46,400
big linds in it. So you know, not only has

555
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,680
she made the final table with the chip lead, with

556
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,160
a pretty healthy chip lead again twenty four big linds

557
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,640
over the next closest player, but she's got a lot

558
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,559
of big lines to work with. You know, they're they're

559
00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:59,440
fairly deep here. So I'm excited to see she and

560
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,160
Okamoto get to work again. That will be streaming Sunday

561
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,599
onn Poker gro Lon mccaron, Gensha Hotti on the Call

562
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:09,559
eight Eastern, five Pacific. Elong Wang is the winner of

563
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,039
his first WSOP Gold bracelet. He won the three K

564
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,759
no limit hold him for eight hundred and thirty thousand dollars.

565
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,880
Ran Elani took second place.

566
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,559
Speaker 2: Ren Linn.

567
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: We all know Ren Lynn, mister no Gamble in the future,

568
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,119
mister Tom Brady, mister Lady Gaga. He took third for

569
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,079
four h six. Julian Kolev fourth, Gunal Potny fifth, sengyun

570
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,440
Nam sixth place, Fabrizio Gonzalez seventh, Jason Richard eighth, Powan

571
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Bonsel ninth and then Stephen Jones runs out the top ten.

572
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,359
Stephen Jones former runner up in the WSP main Event

573
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,599
to Daniel Weinman. He finished in tenth place. Pretty fun

574
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,799
to see. Well, it was ultimately four final tables happening

575
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,079
if you include the ladies one. I know, like we

576
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,160
talk about it, like the tables happening on Sunday, but

577
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,680
they also got down to one table and they had

578
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,119
to play. They played down to seven. So you had

579
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,440
the ten K Deuce to seven Championship, which is still

580
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,440
playing and we'll talk about that they're still playing. You had,

581
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,480
of course the PPC, you had this three K, and

582
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,960
then you had that Ladies like all happening at once,

583
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,079
among the fact that you had all of the tournaments

584
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,319
going on in this main event center room here at Horseshoe,

585
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,640
so certainly buzzing, absolutely buzzing, and part of the reason

586
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:32,519
why that was buzzing. Second largest live tournament ever. This

587
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:34,200
is one of those days at the World Series of

588
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,119
Poker where I feel like we're gonna we can like

589
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200
remember this day. Specifically, you obviously had grind her. What

590
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,160
shina O Kamoto is doing is incredible, and then you

591
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,759
have the Gladiators of Poker becoming the second largest live

592
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:51,000
tournament ever. So I'm thinking, like many years down the road,

593
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,039
because we have that article on PGT dot com where

594
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,680
it's the top fifteen largest poker tournaments, right, and now

595
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,880
we're gonna have to put that the entry for this tournament,

596
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,960
this Gladiator's Tournament into second place. Yeah, you know, a

597
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,559
couple of years down the road, we might be looking

598
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:04,640
at this list, referencing here or whatever. We're gonna be like, oh,

599
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,359
remember second, Remember that that was the day when Grinder

600
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,640
did this, and she did that, and oh Nick Schulman

601
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,440
was going for his second the summer, like all that

602
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,119
was happening at once. Like it's one of those things

603
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,559
that just sticks in your mind. So enormous field here

604
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,279
for day one d of the Gladiators of Poker Tournament

605
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,839
nine eight hundred and seventy five, which is which.

606
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,079
Speaker 4: Is oh sorry I didn't know, wait which is it

607
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,480
is the largest which in WSP history.

608
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was like, what what are you pointing on me? Please,

609
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960
for the love of God helped me. You can tell

610
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,279
me you're gonna throw it to me, but yeah, that's

611
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:39,240
the largest. I was literally about to poke your eye out.

612
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: It topped twenty nineteen Big fifty flight one day, ninety

613
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,279
one hundred entrance.

614
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:44,839
Speaker 3: Uh.

615
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: This is also forty percent of the field in this

616
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:51,119
flight one day of glad days, but not the biggest

617
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,920
percentage of all that ALI do to one camister millions

618
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,279
this year forty one point four four percent was pretty close.

619
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,759
But I largest flight in w SOOP history. Sorry about

620
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:06,319
the the little.

621
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Just to put a little bit more into context just

622
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,160
how big the flight was today. Last year's day one

623
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,160
deep and sixty nine entries. This year as we've been

624
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,240
talking about eight hundred and seventy five, so more than

625
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:25,880
three thousand entries better than last year's final flight.

626
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: That is wild.

627
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and once again, I'm not sure I heard much

628
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:36,680
at all about long registration lines, not going ten handed,

629
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,759
you know anything. Everything seemed like it was flowing quite nicely.

630
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,839
I know the hallways and the bathrooms were a little

631
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:44,599
bit backed up on the brakes, but other than that,

632
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:49,440
smooth sailing. Yeah, absolutely smooth sailing. So kudos to the

633
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:53,640
WSOP there for that one. Again, quite a bit of

634
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,880
ways to go in this one, so we'll touch on

635
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,319
it more in the next episode when we thin the field.

636
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:00,240
A little bit more, we start seeing you know, who's

637
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,559
building big stacks where they're going from there. I don't

638
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,839
think we have the prize pool yet, the full prize,

639
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:07,799
but I know they all got into the money. Yeah,

640
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,279
but I don't think they issue the big prize pool.

641
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:13,200
But it's probably gonna be around what five hundred k

642
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,759
for first? You think, Yeah, which is which is wild?

643
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah?

644
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean it really is a three lot of a ticket, yeah,

645
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,559
which is crazy. So I would much rather play that

646
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160
than actually going to just buy a lot of a ticket.

647
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,519
I'd much rather fire on.

648
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,319
Speaker 2: This just because it's more chance of the lot of

649
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:30,720
a ticket.

650
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:33,039
Speaker 1: It's more fun to play poker. It is though, It's

651
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,599
just way more fun to play poker. The ten k

652
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,920
p l O Championship event. I'm still holding out, by

653
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,759
the way, and this ten k deuces seven just to

654
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,119
see if we can get a winner or whatever happens there.

655
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,119
They were three handed when we started the show.

656
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:49,839
Speaker 2: I don't think we're getting I don't think we're getting

657
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,279
a winner.

658
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: So you just want to talk about it now, Let's

659
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:53,319
have a let's have.

660
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: A quick look at the chip counts.

661
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:56,119
Speaker 3: I mean.

662
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,799
Speaker 2: We could, but I think we should talk about it now,

663
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:00,920
all right?

664
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,319
Speaker 1: There are three players left the ten K limit Duce

665
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:08,319
to seven Triple Draw Championship. The three players are Matthew Shreiver,

666
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,119
Nick Shulman and Alexander Wilkinson. Shulman is of course going

667
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,599
for his eighth Wsop Gold bracelet, his second this summer.

668
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440
He won the ten k No limit Duce to seven

669
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,759
Single Draw earlier in the summer, and here he is

670
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,599
in the final three right now as things stand eleven

671
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,640
forty three pm on Saturday night. Matthew Shreiver is the

672
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,599
current chip lead. But they've kind of been all over

673
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,000
the place.

674
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like.

675
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: Wilkinson's had the chip lead, Shulman was short drivers had

676
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,599
the chip lead. You know, Shulman's had the chip but

677
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,119
they've been all over the place. So don't think we're

678
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,079
going to get a winner in this one tonight. So

679
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,519
let's just touch on it. We'll leave it there, we'll

680
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:50,200
come back tomorrow. But do you want to mention three

681
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,799
hundred and thirty three thousand dollars up? Top final three

682
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:55,759
players are guaranteed one hundred and forty four thousand. We

683
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,920
lost high Park in fourth place. We lost Brian Tate,

684
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:06,519
founder and CEO of Oats Overnight Oats Overnight Baby, Yurizeelefski

685
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,839
in sixth place, Oscar Johansson in seventh and friend of

686
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:15,000
the podcast Pedro Brohmpman in eighth place. So that's how

687
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,079
we got down to the final three again. Final three

688
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,640
guaranteed one hundred and forty four thousand dollars, Second place

689
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,000
is two fifteen and first place is three three three.

690
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,240
So we'll finish wrapping up on this one if it

691
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,920
happens to end tonight in the next I don't know,

692
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,119
fifteen twenty minutes whatever. Zero chance, yeah, zero chance. I mean, listen,

693
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:33,960
there's always a non zero chance that is true. Somebody

694
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000
could go on a heater like Michael Mamsrocky and just

695
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:47,920
run through them, a lot through them. Okay, so we

696
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,200
got the ten k PLO Championship that kicked off today. Yeah,

697
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,720
I mean, I would imagine this one is just going

698
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:57,880
to be enormous. At seven two runners right now, what

699
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,599
are to have last year probably are already be last

700
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,000
year's it had eight eleven, so probably going it was

701
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,400
going to smash through that. Yeah, I'm gonna get over

702
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,519
nine hundred for sure. I know you wrote down that

703
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:12,719
Jeremie Osmas was leading.

704
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: He's not third and Chips. I don't see him leading. Yeah,

705
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:15,840
he's not.

706
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: Alex j Uh plays on some of our champions clup

707
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,800
Streams down in Houston, Texas. He's a chip leader. Rengie

708
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Mass second and Chips. They got Frank Brannan up there,

709
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:29,039
Thomas Taylor, he's having a very good world series. Uh,

710
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:33,760
Tuby Lewis, Richard Greiico, Gabrielle and got a lot of

711
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,440
plow names that people be uh familiar with.

712
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is a four day event. It's a lot.

713
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:39,960
It's a slug.

714
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,599
Speaker 4: This one is a slug, but only one entry to

715
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,519
freeze out. I believes the one where they thought they

716
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:46,400
added the re entrance.

717
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: I think it was back and forth seventeen different times.

718
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,440
But I believe it is a free freeze out. And

719
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,840
I even think that the way Twitter account tweeted out

720
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,800
the ten k plow freeze out.

721
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:55,679
Speaker 2: That's good.

722
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:58,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just well like everyone knows this is the

723
00:34:58,599 --> 00:34:59,119
freeze out.

724
00:34:59,159 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.

725
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: Renland busted, Jason Mercer busted, Mickey Duack, Brandis Shack, Harris Hucks, Seed,

726
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,199
Scott sever David Williams, Barney Bowtman and George Wolf have

727
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,880
all been eliminated.

728
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,079
Speaker 2: We also lost.

729
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: Tommy Lee, the legend legend who I guess according to

730
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,400
this Poker News report because he's in the same hand

731
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,039
with Allen Lee was at the same table as his brother. Wow,

732
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,159
brother and brother crime. What's up with that?

733
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: All right?

734
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,119
Speaker 1: So that's the ten k PLO. I would expect this

735
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:30,800
one to just get again nine hundred plus nine fifty.

736
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 3: Now.

737
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,159
Speaker 1: One of the other people that we lost in this

738
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,159
event was the one and only Daniel Legrando. Yeah, because

739
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:40,039
he made a boo boo good. What is it the

740
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:41,840
the oopsie meter? By the way, we have a duck

741
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,719
up that we've talked about.

742
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 4: He has an oops Yeah, he has an oopsie me

743
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,159
because he misread his hand.

744
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: Everyone's on it.

745
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean, are you Daniel Legrnanho or you're not Danny?

746
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean I did it in a one tune limn Cash.

747
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:58,119
You didn't do it in the ten k.

748
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: You didn't do it in the ten k Polo Freeze

749
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,760
Out Championships, did you, right?

750
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: Definitely not the PLOFC. That's the PLFC.

751
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,119
Speaker 1: So I guess this hand, according to Poker News, was

752
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,920
against Max Steinberg and it looks like his blind verse

753
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,400
blind Steinberg and the small blind in the big mine.

754
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,960
And I'm sure this will be on Daniel's log at

755
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:22,559
least I hope it will be, because we'll see the

756
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:26,280
upsie meter. But they get to a final board of

757
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:33,320
seven three deuce King ten, no flush present. Steinberg checks

758
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,840
negran New jams all in for what he had left

759
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,800
was forty six hundred at the time. Steinberg calls Niggaranney

760
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
turns over King Queen Jack knighte. I remember the board

761
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,360
is seven three duce King ten. Nigrania has King Queen

762
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:51,239
Jack Knine, so he just has a pair of kings

763
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,519
which is with a Queen kicker. And then he said

764
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:57,360
he immediately realizes what happened, and he says, I misread

765
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,000
my hand. Thought he had King ten girls. He would

766
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,599
have checked and Steinberg did have King ten, had King

767
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:08,679
ten eighty five. So Steinberg with the two pair, Nigaranny

768
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,679
thought he had two pair, and Negraneu is out and

769
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,119
he'll be on to the next one. So what are

770
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:18,280
you gonna do? Happens to everyone. I guess you can

771
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,639
just reenter right, No, you cannot. This is the freeze

772
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:25,480
out chamber time of the entire Partlam in Omaha World. Okay,

773
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,559
so no re entry for d N Eggs. A little

774
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:31,480
boo boo there, a little oopsie meter, but no big deal.

775
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:35,599
He'll be in the next tournament. The fifteen one hundred

776
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,440
dollars eight game is cruising along right now. Where are

777
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,280
we at in this one?

778
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,639
Speaker 4: There is a nineteen remaining the seven and eighty nine entrance.

779
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,760
Massive increase from lost year. I think it was like

780
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,480
four everyone's guaranteed seven k. Right now they're playing for

781
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,039
one hundred and eighty four thousand. Working out way from

782
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,400
the bottom op of the chip gas Brad Rubin shooting

783
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,159
for a second bracelet of the summer. Nico Milgrim there,

784
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:01,400
he's in fourteenth place.

785
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,119
Speaker 2: Niko's gonna win this one.

786
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:07,039
Speaker 4: This is Mokei, Steve Bila, Rakas Silk grinding away thirteenth

787
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:10,599
in chips. We have Scott Abrams up there, move up

788
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:12,199
fifteen chips.

789
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: Xinyang low? Is that how we say it? Dingyang low?

790
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 4: Anyway, he's shooting for his second bracelet of the summer,

791
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,079
fourth in twelve months, because he won two last summer,

792
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,440
and the chip leader is Nakas Nadelku I.

793
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: Like when you have to say the names and I

794
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,639
don't know, this gives you a bit of arrest.

795
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, because you just trade off events

796
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:33,039
if you want. Okay, you just you're the boss. You

797
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:33,639
tell me what to do.

798
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: Nineteen players remain. They're guaranteed seventy seven hundred dollars up top,

799
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:41,599
one hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. Congratulations Nico on

800
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,519
your first goal. Braceletcause you Saier are going to win

801
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,440
this one field bonus or I can already tell seventeen

802
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:48,320
no eight, well yeah, eighteen left?

803
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he got a field bonus. How many were

804
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:54,159
in there? Seven eighty nine? Yeah, so field.

805
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Bonus of seven seven plus five or twelve, So right now,

806
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:58,840
twelve points for good old Nico Milgram.

807
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: He's gonna win, so it doesn't matter. He is going

808
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:00,760
to win.

809
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it. Yeah, I am feeling it. We have

810
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,119
the twenty five at all mixed big bet. Did that

811
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:07,639
start today?

812
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,079
Speaker 2: No? This is starting tomorrow Sunday?

813
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:09,559
Speaker 3: Is it?

814
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: So? Only only the plos started today?

815
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: Only the PLO side today? Figure? Remember I thought, well, yeah,

816
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,320
I mean we both we both messed up. It's a

817
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:20,920
double duck up.

818
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we announced. I said the mini main

819
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,480
event was starting on Saturday. I'm going to claim the

820
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:30,280
duck up mainly because every World series I built this

821
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,480
master Google sheet that everyone works off and it's normally perfect.

822
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,039
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, it's.

823
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: Colors highly questionable on that, guys, it's so beautiful.

824
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: Highly questionable.

825
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,559
Speaker 4: And for some reason I had the mini main events

826
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:47,239
starting on Saturday, and obviously no one questioned it because

827
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:50,760
my stuff is perfect and it actually starts on Sunday.

828
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,719
You thought it sat on, You thought it was weird

829
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,719
that decided on Sunday on Saturday, but you.

830
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,119
Speaker 2: Didn't want to question it because I never make a mistake.

831
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:59,599
Speaker 1: I mostly didn't question it because it was about four

832
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:03,880
time five morning over it. But yes, I was trying

833
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,440
to figure out how it was going to operate on

834
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,880
three hours of sleep and play the event.

835
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,599
Speaker 2: But thankfully I don't have to do that.

836
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: Produce a rich You can put the little duck up

837
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,880
here that's on May. But yeah, that's gonna start Sunday.

838
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:17,559
Six thousand, seventy six runners lost. Yeah, the other events

839
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:20,280
thought he used the twenty five hundred mixed Big Bet

840
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,880
and that had four hundred and sixty eight runners in

841
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,440
twenty twenty four, so two events on Sunday Jelly twenty ninth.

842
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: Well on this Mini main event, given the fact that

843
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,840
the Gladiators of Poker had three thousand more entries, yeah

844
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,440
than last year, or more than three thousand more inchries

845
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,639
in less year, right, how much was the total?

846
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: Three thousand was?

847
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: The last flight had three thousand more, so it had

848
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,760
almost four thousand more.

849
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: For four thousand, yeah thirty nine, just under four thousand more.

850
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: So given how big that is, I feel like that's

851
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,119
a nice lead in to then take a shot in

852
00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:59,800
the Mini main event, especially if you cash, if you

853
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,239
act just part of that money, but you could also

854
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,239
be one of those things where you come on out

855
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,480
you're like, okay, I'll play I don't know, two or

856
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,159
three shells in the Gladiators of Poker, you know, six

857
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,599
hundred or nine hundred bucks, and then I got another

858
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:14,440
one thousand I can put into the Mini main two

859
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,840
thousand dollars a pretty good trip, you know, I get

860
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,639
two kicks at it.

861
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,519
Speaker 2: Let's go or you know, two events.

862
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is pretty good scheduling here

863
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,400
that at this Mini main event is going to be

864
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,840
pretty big. So you said, what last year was six

865
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,119
thousand and seventy six. I'm going sixty eight hundred. It's

866
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:33,840
a big number.

867
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to go much bigger actually,

868
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,239
So you know, I personally do think the difference between

869
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,800
three hundred one thousand is a lot.

870
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a good This is still the

871
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:43,679
good place.

872
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 4: You know that the Gladiator is targets, So I didn't

873
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,039
see a lot of people going to Polay just you know,

874
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,199
coming here playing both see a lot of people taking

875
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,320
some shots in the Gladiators, you know, obviously one thousand dollars,

876
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,440
that's three bullets.

877
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: In the Gladiators versus wanting the Mini.

878
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree, there'll be an It is a Sunday,

879
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,440
you know, going into that kind of July fourth, you know,

880
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,880
take the week off, come to Vegas kind of like ideal.

881
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see.

882
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 4: It's gonna definitely be a nice, big one, nice lead

883
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,920
into the real.

884
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: To the real main events. Yeah, I still wish they

885
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:17,760
called that.

886
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,079
Speaker 1: Nine game tournament the Mini PPC. They got the Mini

887
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,920
main event, they should have the Mini PPC. That's what

888
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,280
I would absolutely love to see. The main event starts

889
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,280
on Wednesday. I'm leaning more and more that it's just

890
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,440
gonna get bigger and bigger.

891
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

892
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:33,039
Speaker 1: I feel like every day I add another fifty entries

893
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:33,519
in my head.

894
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:36,039
Speaker 2: So we'll see where we end up.

895
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,159
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna work on a special main event

896
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:42,320
preview podcast coming up in the in the upcoming days,

897
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,519
so we'll have more on that. But another big day

898
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:49,199
ahead on or yeah, on Sunday at the twenty twenty

899
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,000
five World Series of Poker, I'm most looking forward to

900
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,320
that Ladies Championship Finals, say well, that will be streaming

901
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,039
on Poker Grow eight pm Eastern five pm Pacific time.

902
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,719
Shina Okamoto is looking to defend her title. She is

903
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,800
the chip leader with seven left, so I'm going to

904
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,840
be keeping an eye on that. I do have to

905
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,920
go do commentary over at Venetian. They got a sixteen

906
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,760
hundred dollars Ultimate Stack final table, so that's gonna be

907
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,920
a lot of fun as well. So if you want

908
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,480
to join us there, that stream starts at noon, Vegas

909
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:22,880
time three on the East Coast. I believe it should

910
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,719
be done or right around done at the latest before

911
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,079
the Ladies Championship, so you could do double duty. Yeah,

912
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:32,599
you could watch Remco and I doing that Venetian final table,

913
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,199
you know, and then you can hop on into the

914
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,079
Lad's Championship with Lon Mheron and Jen Shahati. So join

915
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:40,880
us in the streaming streets.

916
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: Let's go.

917
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 4: We also actually have a third stream that day. Huh,

918
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,760
I have a third stream total. We have have the BENMGM.

919
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,679
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. We do have creating cash game.

920
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: So if you you know, if tournaments you bit style,

921
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:55,599
you want to come watch some cash games. BENMGM have

922
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:58,880
a few events starting tomorrow with firstly with a creative

923
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,960
cash game. Monday is the Big League Live streams. Got

924
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,920
a bunch of retired MLB athletes. Gary Sheffield, you know

925
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,559
that name, Garry Sheffield. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what

926
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,320
that is. I'm the baseball guy, Rich knows exactly what

927
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,079
I'm going. Andrew Jones you know that name? Yeah, and

928
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,199
with you and then A J. Purrensky. I think they're

929
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,280
the most the three famous guys. Apologies to you baseball

930
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,079
fans out there. I'm not a big baseball guy. But

931
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:30,920
that is on Monday, and then July fourth is the

932
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,559
ben MGM Poker Championship from Aria thirty five hundred dollars.

933
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,960
Main event they got some big They've had big numbers

934
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,039
all week, so I think that's going to be a

935
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:39,840
pretty big one.

936
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: Some of these numbers that I've been hearing around town

937
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,519
for the last week or so, I know kind of

938
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,840
somewhere hit or miss, you know, kind of earlier in

939
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,920
the summer, but this last week everything sounds free gag.

940
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, this week and it's just yeah, it's just like

941
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,960
is everyone coming into town, is everyone finding some money?

942
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,639
We don't really know, but yeah, it does feel that

943
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:00,840
this week everything's kind of We've been turned off a

944
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,719
few notches with those you know, Aria specializing in those

945
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,360
one day eleven hundreds. You know, we have those big

946
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,000
the main events over at the wind that Ata Matrosian won.

947
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,920
So yeah, it seems like POK is getting quite busy

948
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,639
right now. Perfect Timmy really got the main event.

949
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: It definitely is perfect timing, so tons of stuff going on.

950
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,559
Absolutely love to see it. I do have a couple

951
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,840
of shout outs that I kind of get to. I

952
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,920
missed some from yesterday. Again, it was like, you know,

953
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,079
four point thirty in the morning over the heck time,

954
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:33,480
it was by time we started cut to the end

955
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,679
of the podcast, So forgive me but Benjamin from Sarasota.

956
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,960
We chatted for probably twenty minutes, maybe a little bit

957
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,320
longer on just kind of the state of the poker industry,

958
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,559
the state of poker content, poker on TV, all that

959
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,760
sort of stuff. It was a very very good conversation

960
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:55,880
that I had with Benjamin. I believe also said that

961
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,480
he was Brazilian, makes his trip out here every summer,

962
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:04,480
has used it as his his Father's Day present, So

963
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:07,400
shout out to you. Benjamin. Really did enjoy our conversation.

964
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:10,000
It was very interesting. You know, one of the things

965
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,440
that we talked about specifically is kind of similar to

966
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:14,199
the NBA. And I know you're a basketball guy, so

967
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,440
I can I can draw these parallels here. But you know,

968
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,880
the NBA had, like right now, they have Lebron James

969
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,440
and Steph Curry, right those are the two biggest names,

970
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,840
but they're also kind of on their way out. Who

971
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,599
are the next stars that people are going to gravitate towards.

972
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,840
Similar to poker, you know, you got the Danie mcgrowney's,

973
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,679
got the Phil IV's, you've got the Phil Helmuth, right,

974
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,760
but they're not going to be around forever. I bet

975
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,400
it be well, Okay, yes, I mean, they're going to

976
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,199
be a long round forever. But are they how long

977
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,920
are they going to be around for? And how long

978
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,480
are they going to be around in the fact that

979
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:48,679
they're like winning and like at the top of the

980
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:50,920
game and all that sort of stuff, and like who's

981
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,320
that next wave, who's that next Luca Dunee?

982
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like Mornin.

983
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Care honestly, Mark Garbrell could if he plays his cards right.

984
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:00,719
But you know, there's just got to be more than

985
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,320
just that. And I think that the Martin Martin Cobrell

986
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,800
thing is interesting because in the NBA specifically, I know,

987
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,239
there's a lot of conversations with you know, NBA heads

988
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,639
about how like the current biggest stars, at least the

989
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,239
youngest biggest stars aren't American. Yeah, so do you need

990
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,360
an American poker player to kind of rise up?

991
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:19,639
Speaker 2: Now?

992
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: There are a lot of poker players that they have

993
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:24,960
game and they're well known, but do they have the

994
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,440
personality that the older generation has? So that's kind of

995
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,440
what Benjamin and I were talking about, you know, because

996
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,320
that that really that's what sucks to like the mainstream fan,

997
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,320
like that's what they attached to.

998
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: You know.

999
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: So so yeah, it's just something to think about, you know,

1000
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,559
and I don't really know or have an answer, and

1001
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,440
that's what we settle al on. But it's always kind

1002
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,199
of something to think about, Like over these next stars.

1003
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,119
Speaker 4: I think we've talked about this before that you know,

1004
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:50,880
playing poker is so different to what it was in

1005
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,360
the two thousands right where you know, these guys are

1006
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,280
on TV. They knew that it was endorsement deals and stuff.

1007
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,559
Nowadays it's very very different. These guys are more serious

1008
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,719
to playing for bigger amounts of money. So what is

1009
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,679
the value to them sitting there laughing, having a good time,

1010
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,039
spilling a drink, throwing some jokes, doing some funny antics.

1011
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:12,719
There's not that much about There's more value in the

1012
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,519
poker side of things. Playing you know, perfect playing gto

1013
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:21,199
playing the best you can to maximize your position being

1014
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,039
at a final table or a feature table or something

1015
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,360
like that. So the poker industry is very different to

1016
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,480
what it was in the two thousands, when you know

1017
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,519
ninety percent of fans grew up, you know, idolizing a

1018
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,639
Grindo helm with madis out all these you know, the

1019
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:36,679
way it was produced to.

1020
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: Highlight these stars.

1021
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 4: This is a different it's just kind of a different,

1022
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,039
very different product now like back then, no live streams,

1023
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,039
all edited episodes. Now kind of all live streams. And

1024
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:49,960
I would say once people mostly watch live streams, they're

1025
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,760
not probably tuning into the episode so they see, you know,

1026
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,519
the long, the long drawn out gameplay versus you're going

1027
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,519
to cut up all these highlights put them together for

1028
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:01,559
you to tell a story. So I think it's just

1029
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:03,800
very different. And I don't know if we're trying to

1030
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,320
find the next personality, like the next Matters out, or

1031
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,880
we're trying to find the next kind of players that

1032
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,159
people look up to in certain ways, whether it's their mannerisms,

1033
00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:15,599
the way they kind of conduct themselves at the table,

1034
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,559
or maybe they just like their style, like maybe they

1035
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,159
want to be, you know, feel less and aggressive like

1036
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:24,079
Alex Foxen. You know, they like the way, you know,

1037
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:27,000
Nick Schulman acts at the table, the way Christy Foxon

1038
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:28,760
acts at the table. So I think it's we're just

1039
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,880
looking for different stars and it's not just it's just

1040
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,800
not how it used to be.

1041
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:37,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the main point that the mean takeaway

1042
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:40,800
that Benjamin and I settled on was we don't really

1043
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,760
know what the answer is, you know, kind of like

1044
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,920
you're saying, and it can be different for a lot

1045
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,760
of different people. So I guess just kind of keep

1046
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,280
our eyes on the lookout for it, and then when

1047
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,960
we see it, whatever it is, just got to be

1048
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,679
ready to pounce.

1049
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: Right.

1050
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: Obie from Germany, doc ober m. I got him a hat.

1051
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Don't worry. I got him a hat. You denied him

1052
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,840
a hat, But I got him a hat because I

1053
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,280
had one.

1054
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh you hid one.

1055
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:12,679
Speaker 1: I did not hide one, but I had one. It

1056
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,639
was it was one hundred and twenty five percent not hidden.

1057
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,119
In fact, when I put it where I put it,

1058
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:23,800
you were with me. So shout out to Obie. Cameron

1059
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:30,039
from Ventura, California. He usually plays cash, but he sat

1060
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,639
he'd into the main. Oh good show. He's going to

1061
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,199
be taking a shot there. I think he said he's

1062
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,360
into the main for around three K or thirty five

1063
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,320
hundred or something, so nice discount, affordable price. Cameron, shout

1064
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,159
out to you. Hopefully you go deep in the main event.

1065
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:47,280
We got Joseph from Seattle. He made me do a

1066
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,039
weird back to back pose where we were like our

1067
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:52,480
shoulders are leaning against each other. I mean, it was

1068
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,000
kind of weird. I'm not really a pose guy like that.

1069
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:58,039
I did it because I like the fans, but we

1070
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,960
love all. That might be the first in life back

1071
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,800
to back posts ever, so shout out to you surf

1072
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,840
for getting me to do that. But never, it's never happening.

1073
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:10,920
It's never happening again. We got Eric in the Gladiators

1074
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:14,239
his second bullet, or he was on his second bullet.

1075
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,280
Hopefully it works out. The first bullet did not work out.

1076
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,639
He got it in top set verse bottom set and

1077
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:21,480
the guy ran out a flush, so that was bad

1078
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:25,199
news for Eric. Meeting a lot of people around here,

1079
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,679
it's always fun see if you guys hop on in

1080
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,039
to the main event, and if you are in the

1081
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,920
main event, wrap that poke rel podcast hat. Let us

1082
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,480
know how you're doing. Yeah, you know very much. Look

1083
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:41,159
forward to it. And you know, if if you want

1084
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:44,320
to send an email into the podcast at pokero dot com,

1085
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,039
shoot us a DM or whatever. It's pretty simple these

1086
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:49,840
days to just get in contact with us. We have

1087
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,719
your name, We can quickly look out at your table

1088
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,360
and see we can send her photographers out there. We

1089
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,679
can get a photo of you like you know, we

1090
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,599
can do all that sort of stuff nowadays. So don't

1091
00:51:56,599 --> 00:51:59,960
be shy. Definitely, definitely, definitely do not be shy. So

1092
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:01,840
those are shout outs that I just wanted to get

1093
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,079
to you. Got any for today?

1094
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: I have not.

1095
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,519
Speaker 1: I have not been here that I think good. I

1096
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:08,039
have to run the bed m Jim side. No sounds good?

1097
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,159
All right, Well that's gonna do it for us. His

1098
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,039
name is Tim Duckworth, my name is Donnie Peters, and

1099
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:14,639
we will talk to you guys next time.

1100
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:23,559
Speaker 2: JA Express