Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to a new episode of
the Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His
name is Tim Duckworth. As I try to adjust this microphone
because everything here is messed up. Everything here is messed up. Okay,
stop messing with my studio. It's unbelievable, it's unreal. How
are you good? Thanks, Mike, you're looking You look like
you are the Australian version of whoever that guy was
on Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: Sam Neil? Is that real name?
Speaker 3: Is that who it is?
Speaker 1: I'm horrible with names, so I don't know. Yeah, Sam Neil, Yeah,
that's like the style of hat that I feel like
he had.
Speaker 4: It is a cattleman zacubra in rabbit fur direct from Melbourne, Australia.
Speaker 2: Pairs well with my.
Speaker 4: You hear that, Peter Kangaroo, I say that cowboy boots.
Speaker 1: You hear that?
Speaker 2: You hear that? I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure Pete
is okay, Tod all right.
Speaker 1: Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky winning the fifty k PPC
Grinder Grinder Grinder Grinder, his fourth one two three four
fourth PPC title. Absolutely dominant performance down the stretch, even
extends before the final day of play. Speaking of dominance,
Sina Okamoto absolutely steam rolling through the Ladies Championship. She
leads the final table one more day to go. In
that event, we have a first time w SP gold
Brace the winner Elong Wang winning the three K no
limit hold them, and then the Gladiators of Poker became
the second largest live poker tournament ever in the the
history of the game, if you can believe it. So
a very very very big day here at the World
Series of Poker. I am still very very tired from
last night, very very tired. So it is eleven fifteen pm,
quite a bit earlier than the three point thirty or
whatever the heck it was last night. So get out
of here a couple hours earlier than we did last night.
I am operating on three hours of sleep. Is absolutely ridiculous.
I don't know why I do it, but it's silly.
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You don't like the half outd So here's the thing.
They do tournament breaks. So you play for twenty five
minutes and then you break. Yeah, seems a little silly.
Should just be on it every hour. That way, you
play for fifty five minutes, because like you're all of
a sudden you're playing, you're getting in the swinging thing
and it's like boom break.
Speaker 2: It's like wait, they just started even weird.
Speaker 1: This is no light registration, right, Yeah, but they should
just start it earlier so you play for a longer
period of time, right, So that's what I think. So second,
so I'm sending a I'm sending a note to the
suggestion box, which is me through the podcast to you, Rich,
I forgot my water.
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keep those up, especially during the WSP main event broadcast.
Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky, this guy and this tournament
is something I'm not sure I would believe it, but
I have seen it with my own eyes, so I'm
forced to believe it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: It's just it's unfathomable that he has won this tournament,
the toughest, most grueling poker tournament in the world, against
the most elite competition. Crazy buying, fifty k, I mean,
just all of it. It has everything, right, Yeah, and
he's won it not once, not twice, not three times,
but now four times. Ultimately, it was miss Rocky's seventh
w Sipeagle bracelet, one point three three million dollars coming
his way as well his sixth cash in this event
as well. He took home as I said, one point
three to three million bring Kenny second, eight hundred and
eighty seven K Esther Taylor aka e K five hundred
and ninety K for her. She took or she finished,
the deepest that a female has ever finished in this event.
The previous one was Melissa Burr twenty fourteen. She took seventh.
And those are the only two women to cash in
this one. Andrew ja got fourth, Jalvier got fifth, Albert
Daher got sixth, and Ben Lamb got seventh. Those are
the final seven players to come back for the fifth
and final day of play. What do you got for
me here? You're typing stats.
Speaker 4: Type of stat in yeah that you said six cash
for Michael Mzrahi in the PPC six million and sixty
four thousand dollars in PPC earnings aligne just.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is crazy. This guy is wild.
Now I will say this. He ran like freaking God
on the final day. But he did put himself in
that position to run like God, so you can't fault him.
I'm a bit jealous of a Sun run like that.
All around, there was some really fun hands, you know,
I think, even extending back to day four and Day three,
a lot of really fun hands in this one. We
did stream I believe it am onto two and a
half days of coverage of this tournament, so if you
guys want to check that out, you can go find
it on demand on poker dot com. For this final table,
the great Ali Najade was in the booth alongside he
ever so talented Jared Blessnik, and it was tremendous. Blesnick
of course spoke his mind as he always does in
the booth. You know, he gives great insight, yes, but
he also doesn't hold back. If he thinks you played bad,
he's gonna say you freaking torched it. So it makes
for a very very very entertaining watch. So if you
missed it out highly and you guys to go and
watch that. I mean, mss Rocky just steamrolled this whole
final table. I mean right from the start, he was
just boom out the gate flying when he gets to
three handed play. It's just like he's like taking chips
from Taylor. He's taken chips from Kenny, then from Taylor,
then from Kenny. Next thing, you know, he's got like
twenty seven million, they both have like three million. He's
just running away with the thing. Eta goes out in
third miss Rocky's heads up with Kenny. He's got thirty
million to like the two and a half or three
million for Kenny. Like it's just like it's just insurmountable.
He's never coming back from that. With the way the
Grinder was playing and running, it's just never happening. It
just also was one of those things where it just
it felt like Michael mss Rocky's tournament. I mean, I'm
gonna say, on day three, I know, you and I
were walking through the field and I was like, really
like really, he's still in like he's still doing it.
He's still got a big stack over there, and you
just can kind of sense it, you know, being around
the game for so long.
Speaker 4: So so yeah, yeah, I mean it felt like everything
was going his way, and even you look at that
final hand, you know, at the final hand he pushes
Bran off of pat nine induced to seven.
Speaker 2: Off the best hand. Yeah, off the hand.
Speaker 4: If Brin stays pat, he doubles up, he doubles up,
he decides to break. He's nine to seven to Joe
to a wheel, pairs up his deuce. Grinder had the
ten six, pushed him off and like, you know, what
is what is your day?
Speaker 2: It's just your day, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean he kind of he kind of mindfed him
on that final hand, which I think Grinder did quite
a bit of, you know, especially late on day four.
You know, a lot of talking to his opponents, kind
of manipulating them in one direction or another. The same
sort of thing happened at times today at the final
table or yesterday at the final table. I should say
there was one key hand where I thought Jalvierra made
a mistake folding top hair with jack three when Grinder
ripped it in with an open ended straight flustra on
the turn.
Speaker 2: Believe that was Nolan hold.
Speaker 1: Him, yeah, Jalli thought, thought, thought thought ultimately folded the
best hand. Now, of course, there was still one card
to come, so Grinder could have Hitten with the way
that he was running. I mean, he probably would have
just smashed straight flush. But still I don't I didn't
understand how Via folded that hand in that spot. I
think there were a lot of people, you know, he
was getting a lot of texts, different group chats or
whatever that were watching the stream. We're in the same boat.
But that's the type of day that it was for
Michael mcrocky. You know, he whenever he was drawing, he
like immediately drew to the best hand whenever he needed
to get a bluff through, as evidenced by the fact
that I mean it was a semi bluff, yes, but
still like he didn't have to go to the river,
go to showdown against Ja Viera. Jau just folded, so
like everything just worked out. Even when he got on
the final hand, as you mentioned, he got the best
hand to break and he ultimately wins it. So a really,
really incredible stellar performance from Michael mcrocky, and we had
the chance to sit down with him afterwards. So let's
hear from the grinder, all right, Mike now won the
fifty KPPC four times, something no one else has ever done.
What is it about this event that brings out the
best in you?
Speaker 3: Well, when you're playing out to playing the best. You
got to be the best, you know, and it's just
I've just been very fortunate. I don't even know how
to do it, tell you truth. I mean, it's kind
of crazy. I had a shot twenty five times at
a shot last year and then I had a straight bubble.
But I don't know. I just run really well in
this tournament and I'm having a good I mean, I
have a great World Series before. I think it's my
eleventh cash that had probably fourteen events. So but I
paid a lot of small ones. The only big one
I played so far, but I plan on playing that
ten kp lot tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know, just the event.
I just run good. I can't even explain it. I
don't know. I played my I probably played my best
I played. I probably played better than the last three
ones I played. So yeah, feeling good, just experience. I
think that's why I probably played better this one than
the ones in the past.
Speaker 1: All right, take us back, you know, before the bracelets,
before the titles, Poker still a dream to you, did
you ever like think that it could amount to this
all this success?
Speaker 3: Tell you the truth that and ever, I mean I
thought that in the beginning, I knew I had the talent.
I started when I was fourteen, fifteen years old, you know,
you know, always looked up to Rob. You know, he's
but I always felt like, you know, we have we're
guiding Charlie, you know, we just he was my more,
my mentor, and then we learned a lot from each other,
and a lot was just self taught and then just
watching people play it just you know, just I was
like kind of like transforming from learning from this one
this one, this one, I'm making my own game and
then just and I just I make those. You know,
I'm play a lot of cash, and I played more.
Actually i've played. I've been playing a lot more cash.
I haven't played a tournament in a year. Tell you
was the last tournament I played, won the World Series event.
It was online. Then I haven't been I haven't payed
a tournament since last since last year. And now it's like
I'm playing a lot of cash. But now after you
win a few tournaments, you're like, you feel good about it,
you want to keep doing it. It's confidence.
Speaker 1: Every poker career has its ups and downs. I'm sure
yours has had its fair share of it as well.
You know, what do you know the highs and the
lows teach you about life?
Speaker 3: I could, I've been up here, been down there, I've
seen everything, but I keep them at like I just
always keep my composure, like I know I'll get it
back if I'm go down. I know I'm not worried.
I know my talent and my skill will get me
where I want to be.
Speaker 1: And here it is, and part of that has to
be the supports. Isn't that you have every time you're deep?
You got a big rail? How is that support system?
Speaker 3: What does it mean to you? I mean I have
the best best friends, best family, I mean, my kids,
just everyone just very supportive. When I'm down. They're always
there for me. Even when I'm high, there here for me.
But like just I got a great real Okay, I
can't say that I love them all.
Speaker 1: When people talk about the legends of the game, do
you feel like your name gets mentioned enough?
Speaker 3: I think it does. Maybe this will this might get
it done. I would think so after four PPC titles,
and it's quite an accomplishment. And I have no words
to express. I mean, this is crazy. I can't even
believe it.
Speaker 1: Do you have your sights on the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: We'll see. I mean I didn't. I'm not in it yet,
but it pushed me to work harder. It motivates me.
But if I'm not in it, so I'll keep working.
But I don't make it. Next year a good launer,
maybe I'll win the PPC again.
Speaker 1: Four PPC titles. What does this win say about Michael Msrocky.
Speaker 3: I'm the PPC champ baby.
Speaker 1: Just the best, just absolutely the best. You're gonna tie
this into a new password?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean, uh, I've heard the complaints from
the people.
Speaker 2: The people are complaining. Huh, people are complaining. I'm not
gonna name names.
Speaker 1: I think you should name names.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to.
Speaker 4: I think they know who they are. Simple as that.
We're going to be a new password for those who
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Speaker 2: That'd be a good one.
Speaker 1: On the coverage today, Blesnik was calling this well at
the time, he was saying, if Grinder does go on
to win, it would be the greatest accomplishment in poker history.
Speaker 2: Do you agree or disagree?
Speaker 4: Well, my boy Bill Boyd may have some of the
someone quit the listening at home are not allowed to talk,
but anyone pre nineteen ninety, just for the Donnie Peters
iron if you're watching this on YouTube, you would have
witnessed it was perfect greatest accomplishment in poker.
Speaker 2: What is what's it? What's it is?
Speaker 4: His competition? Okay Friedman, he did it three in a row,
yep mark Newhouse, back to back final tables. All right,
it doesn't even register.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So let's said, as let's grinding, let's put it all
in a bucket and see which one flows to the top,
is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: What else could we even put in there at.
Speaker 4: The WSP Well, I mean I think it's Aaron Cummings
back to back to seven triple Joe wins.
Speaker 1: I mean the closest comparison is obviously Adam Friedman.
Speaker 2: Yep, So do you yeah? Do you yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you do you add some weight to Friedman? Because
one he did it three consecutive wins? Okay, there's that
also in your opinion, Like if you're waiting it, do
you consider Dealer's Choice to be a little bit more
of a difficult game than a nine game mix, which
has a structure it flows, you know from games one
through nine, it goes from one to one one, you know,
it keeps going through them, whereas Dealer's Choice, like, I mean,
you have no idea what anyone's going to pick, Like
they could throw you for a loop. There's what is
the twenty one games in the in the rotation game,
so you know there's that element. I would say that
the I know, the money is bigger. Of course in
the fifty k PPC, it's five times to buy, and yes,
but fields are probably very very very similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, skill wise, numbers wise, I think winning I'm going
to say winning a dealer's choice might be slightly harder
than winning the PPC just because of what you said.
You're going to be playing games that you know, maybe
you know you have never played. We saw a tweet
I think it was a tweet from David gunslinger Buck
today he is a PPC winner, wanted to play some
cash and he played these silly circus games of Badaci
and Baduci. Well that's kind of the core of mixed
game cash game mixed games now, so that's part of
the dealer's choice. So, you know, I think winning a
dealer's choice is maybe slightly harder. But the fact that
grind has been able to win four of these over
you know, pretty much what is it. First one was
twenty ten, you know, fifteen years and it's beening in
different variations. He won the eight game when it was
no limit holding final table. He won the eight games, oh,
very first one. Yeah, his first one was that, his
second one was normal eight game, and now and now
he's got the nine game one. So I he's wanted
in two different formats, well three really different formats, I
guess you could say. And the fact that he's got four,
I just you just it's hot to not give him
the advantage the upper hand in this in this discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving it to Grinder for sure. I think
I agree with Buzzle, like this is the greatest accomplishment
that we've seen in poker. Now. What's also interesting is
that there's somebody that could do it if they just
win this tournament once more, and that's Brian Rast, which
is pretty wild to think about.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: For as good as it is for Michael Mnsrocky to
win four PPC titles, there is another player that, you know,
in one year's time, we could be talking about him
tying that incredible record, which is wild to think about.
Very interesting stuff. Congratulations to Grinder, very very very cool
night here at the World Series of Poker. And then
speaking of dominance, kind of in the same ve, we
got Shina Okamoto dominating the Ladies Championship. She is one
of seven entering Sunday's final table. There were more than
thirteen hundred entries in this field. Now, Okamoto, if you
recall if that name sounds familiar, if you've seen pictures
of her and you're like, where have I seen that
face before? Well, two years ago she took second in
this very event for one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars,
and then last year she went and won. Uped herself.
She said, you know what, second's not good enough.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win the damn thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she won it for one hundred and seventy
one thousand dollars, and now she has a fairly sizable
chip lead. Entering the final table, she has twenty four
more big blinds than second place. Seven players remain. They
are guaranteed twenty six thousand dollars, one hundred and eighty
four thousand dollars up top, and Okamota is freaking in
the driver's seat again.
Speaker 2: She's absolutely crushing and I don't understand what's happening.
Speaker 4: It's just like we didn't understand Grind and we don't
understand this either. She's just ever since day one, Like
you said, second in chips now chip leader.
Speaker 2: It's kind of just crazy. It was.
Speaker 4: What's funny, though, is I was over there after dinner break.
You know, I was going to talk to the ladies
about the plan of the day, and our resident bio writer, Keegan,
who was handing out the bioboards and we were chatting.
He goes, yeah, like you know, oh, we have to
give him out to everyone. He goes everyone, but you know,
she know, like, oh yeah, obviously he goes. They're filling
it out. He leans into her, He's like, is there
anything you want to add to this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, she already got We've done it twice,
so we don't really need her age again or her
name again. We've got all that information. And she points
to the like biggest accomplishment and like she goes, just
change this one from to last year. You know, her
English isn't great, but we could, we both, you know,
Kegan laughed.
Speaker 2: She laughed.
Speaker 4: You know, so obviously her greatest accomplishment last year was
second the Ladies now makes it's obviously winning, so that's
her on them. Then who knows next year when she's
chip later in the twenty twenty six Ladies Championship, she's
gonna say, you know, the two wins I have in
this event, So she's gonna be basically the next Michael's Manserahi,
but for the Ladies Championship.
Speaker 1: You know, I listened, actually finished it up this morning
on the Drive in but to the Table one podcast
Justin Young and Art Parman. But they had on Chris Brewer,
and Chris was talking about, you know, his career and
his life in the game and whatever, and at one
point he mentioned how he doesn't really believe the confidence
is a thing in poker, and I'm sorry, but I
just to disagree. Now, I mean, he did explain himself
a little bit further. When I say I have to
disagree with him, I'm I'm, you know, half joking, but
I do. I do believe confidence is a big thing.
And like as it pertains to shea Okamoto, like she
has to feel supremely confident when she comes into the
Ladies Championship every year, and I think it then shows
through her play like she's just she's just doing it,
and every decision that she makes she must just feel like, yes,
this is the right one and yes this is gonna work,
and there's no cloud in her judgment. She's just able
to come whatever the right answer is. So I do
think that there's a lot to say about confidence in poker. Now,
if you do actually listen to the Table one podcast
with Chris brew which I would highly recommend because it's
very good. But he talked about how confidence and you
know it maybe isn't so much of a thing in
the way that I'm referring to it at the most
elite levels, because you know, those players, the Chris Brewers,
the Steven Chidwick's, the Nick Petrangelo's, you know, Shawn Winter's,
all those guys like there, They're always going to really
be playing their A game. It really doesn't matter. So
and then you know, if you're Chris also said, I
believe if I'm stating it correctly, but if you're B
and C game at those levels isn't very very close
to your A game, then you should never just never
be playing those levels. And the confidence factor probably applies
much more to lower buying stuff. You know, hence the
Ladies Championship, you know, which has a one K buy
and gets thirteen hundred runners. You know, this isn't a
Triton Field or a PGT or something like that, where
it's much smaller. It's more like, you know, whatever one
hundred entries, you know, much more elite player play or whatnot.
Not that these women aren't very very good, because they
clearly are, but it's just kind of a different process
to go through it, right. You might not just be
like full robotic the whole time. You know, you're doing
more of like live poker player type of stuff, you know,
feeling your way through things, reading the situation, whatnot. I mean,
there was there was one clip that our social media
guys sent in that I watched where Sheena jammed I
believe was on the river against a lady and it
didn't seem like it was that much more than like
what the bet was or and the pot was very big,
and the woman tanked and tanked and tank and eventually folded,
and like the other the rest of the table is
kind of like how did you fold?
Speaker 2: Like you know whatever.
Speaker 1: But like that's where I'm thinking about the confidence thing,
and I'm like, well, maybe Okamota is just like no,
I know this woman's gonna fold. I know, like I
know she's may maybe I think she's playing scared. She
is really close to the final table and she wants
to make it, so I'm just gonna pounce, so you know,
stuff like that. I think in factor in at these
types of levels, and I think Okamoto is just executing
to absolute perfection. And it's going to be very exciting
to watch this stream on Sunday. Sunday, June twenty ninth,
the stream is going to be on Poker Go eight
pm Eastern, five pm Pacific. We're gonna have Lawn mccaron
and Jen Shahade on the call. Natalie Bode is going
to be on the sidelines, and I'm super excited to
see how she does this file table. I'm I'm fully
expecting her to end up in the Winter Circle. I
just am like, I feel like it's just one of
those runs, much like I felt like with Michael the
Grinders Rocky. I am just ready again. Like I said,
I think we should keep the name Ladies Championship because
I think this event deserves to, you know, shed light
that it is on the Ladies Championship event of the
world in poker, but it is presented by she and Okamoto,
like it's it's done, it's you can just, you can just.
Speaker 2: It's toasted, it's sponsored, it's everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, she should be presenting the bracelet should she
not win like herself, the whole.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the case that she doesn't win, like
if herraces get cracked or whatever that happens, you know
she can present it because yeah, this is her event,
like it really really is. It's absolutely incredible to watch
this run. You know, even if she were to go
out seventh tomorrow, let's say, a second, then a first
and then a seventh is unheard of, absolutely unheard of.
So congrats so far to she and O Kamodo. But
like like you always think about in poker tournaments, you're
never really going to be happy until you win. So
I'm assuming she's going to be very very very interested
and of course gunning for that victory. She's ahead of
Juliet Hedjdas probably butchered that name. I'm sorry, Juliette, Stephanie
Hagberg in third, Sonya Shasha Keina, Heather Alcorn, Julie hun
and Sumiri.
Speaker 2: Huno Maaki.
Speaker 1: I for sure butchered eight percent of those names, and
I apologize.
Speaker 2: I think Heather, I believe, is a previous dealer of
the Year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not only deal of the year. Yes, she plays
now quite a lot. She plays a lot of the
different games. She's had some success, and here she is
running deep making the final seven. She's got twenty six
big blinds to work with. Okamoto stack has ninety four
big linds in it. So you know, not only has
she made the final table with the chip lead, with
a pretty healthy chip lead again twenty four big linds
over the next closest player, but she's got a lot
of big lines to work with. You know, they're they're
fairly deep here. So I'm excited to see she and
Okamoto get to work again. That will be streaming Sunday
onn Poker gro Lon mccaron, Gensha Hotti on the Call
eight Eastern, five Pacific. Elong Wang is the winner of
his first WSOP Gold bracelet. He won the three K
no limit hold him for eight hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
Ran Elani took second place.
Speaker 2: Ren Linn.
Speaker 1: We all know Ren Lynn, mister no Gamble in the future,
mister Tom Brady, mister Lady Gaga. He took third for
four h six. Julian Kolev fourth, Gunal Potny fifth, sengyun
Nam sixth place, Fabrizio Gonzalez seventh, Jason Richard eighth, Powan
Bonsel ninth and then Stephen Jones runs out the top ten.
Stephen Jones former runner up in the WSP main Event
to Daniel Weinman. He finished in tenth place. Pretty fun
to see. Well, it was ultimately four final tables happening
if you include the ladies one. I know, like we
talk about it, like the tables happening on Sunday, but
they also got down to one table and they had
to play. They played down to seven. So you had
the ten K Deuce to seven Championship, which is still
playing and we'll talk about that they're still playing. You had,
of course the PPC, you had this three K, and
then you had that Ladies like all happening at once,
among the fact that you had all of the tournaments
going on in this main event center room here at Horseshoe,
so certainly buzzing, absolutely buzzing, and part of the reason
why that was buzzing. Second largest live tournament ever. This
is one of those days at the World Series of
Poker where I feel like we're gonna we can like
remember this day. Specifically, you obviously had grind her. What
shina O Kamoto is doing is incredible, and then you
have the Gladiators of Poker becoming the second largest live
tournament ever. So I'm thinking, like many years down the road,
because we have that article on PGT dot com where
it's the top fifteen largest poker tournaments, right, and now
we're gonna have to put that the entry for this tournament,
this Gladiator's Tournament into second place. Yeah, you know, a
couple of years down the road, we might be looking
at this list, referencing here or whatever. We're gonna be like, oh,
remember second, Remember that that was the day when Grinder
did this, and she did that, and oh Nick Schulman
was going for his second the summer, like all that
was happening at once. Like it's one of those things
that just sticks in your mind. So enormous field here
for day one d of the Gladiators of Poker Tournament
nine eight hundred and seventy five, which is which.
Speaker 4: Is oh sorry I didn't know, wait which is it
is the largest which in WSP history.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was like, what what are you pointing on me? Please,
for the love of God helped me. You can tell
me you're gonna throw it to me, but yeah, that's
the largest. I was literally about to poke your eye out.
Speaker 4: It topped twenty nineteen Big fifty flight one day, ninety
one hundred entrance.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: This is also forty percent of the field in this
flight one day of glad days, but not the biggest
percentage of all that ALI do to one camister millions
this year forty one point four four percent was pretty close.
But I largest flight in w SOOP history. Sorry about
the the little.
Speaker 1: Just to put a little bit more into context just
how big the flight was today. Last year's day one
deep and sixty nine entries. This year as we've been
talking about eight hundred and seventy five, so more than
three thousand entries better than last year's final flight.
Speaker 2: That is wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and once again, I'm not sure I heard much
at all about long registration lines, not going ten handed,
you know anything. Everything seemed like it was flowing quite nicely.
I know the hallways and the bathrooms were a little
bit backed up on the brakes, but other than that,
smooth sailing. Yeah, absolutely smooth sailing. So kudos to the
WSOP there for that one. Again, quite a bit of
ways to go in this one, so we'll touch on
it more in the next episode when we thin the field.
A little bit more, we start seeing you know, who's
building big stacks where they're going from there. I don't
think we have the prize pool yet, the full prize,
but I know they all got into the money. Yeah,
but I don't think they issue the big prize pool.
But it's probably gonna be around what five hundred k
for first? You think, Yeah, which is which is wild?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean it really is a three lot of a ticket, yeah,
which is crazy. So I would much rather play that
than actually going to just buy a lot of a ticket.
I'd much rather fire on.
Speaker 2: This just because it's more chance of the lot of
a ticket.
Speaker 1: It's more fun to play poker. It is though, It's
just way more fun to play poker. The ten k
p l O Championship event. I'm still holding out, by
the way, and this ten k deuces seven just to
see if we can get a winner or whatever happens there.
They were three handed when we started the show.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're getting I don't think we're getting
a winner.
Speaker 1: So you just want to talk about it now, Let's
have a let's have.
Speaker 2: A quick look at the chip counts.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: We could, but I think we should talk about it now,
all right?
Speaker 1: There are three players left the ten K limit Duce
to seven Triple Draw Championship. The three players are Matthew Shreiver,
Nick Shulman and Alexander Wilkinson. Shulman is of course going
for his eighth Wsop Gold bracelet, his second this summer.
He won the ten k No limit Duce to seven
Single Draw earlier in the summer, and here he is
in the final three right now as things stand eleven
forty three pm on Saturday night. Matthew Shreiver is the
current chip lead. But they've kind of been all over
the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Wilkinson's had the chip lead, Shulman was short drivers had
the chip lead. You know, Shulman's had the chip but
they've been all over the place. So don't think we're
going to get a winner in this one tonight. So
let's just touch on it. We'll leave it there, we'll
come back tomorrow. But do you want to mention three
hundred and thirty three thousand dollars up? Top final three
players are guaranteed one hundred and forty four thousand. We
lost high Park in fourth place. We lost Brian Tate,
founder and CEO of Oats Overnight Oats Overnight Baby, Yurizeelefski
in sixth place, Oscar Johansson in seventh and friend of
the podcast Pedro Brohmpman in eighth place. So that's how
we got down to the final three again. Final three
guaranteed one hundred and forty four thousand dollars, Second place
is two fifteen and first place is three three three.
So we'll finish wrapping up on this one if it
happens to end tonight in the next I don't know,
fifteen twenty minutes whatever. Zero chance, yeah, zero chance. I mean, listen,
there's always a non zero chance that is true. Somebody
could go on a heater like Michael Mamsrocky and just
run through them, a lot through them. Okay, so we
got the ten k PLO Championship that kicked off today. Yeah,
I mean, I would imagine this one is just going
to be enormous. At seven two runners right now, what
are to have last year probably are already be last
year's it had eight eleven, so probably going it was
going to smash through that. Yeah, I'm gonna get over
nine hundred for sure. I know you wrote down that
Jeremie Osmas was leading.
Speaker 2: He's not third and Chips. I don't see him leading. Yeah,
he's not.
Speaker 4: Alex j Uh plays on some of our champions clup
Streams down in Houston, Texas. He's a chip leader. Rengie
Mass second and Chips. They got Frank Brannan up there,
Thomas Taylor, he's having a very good world series. Uh,
Tuby Lewis, Richard Greiico, Gabrielle and got a lot of
plow names that people be uh familiar with.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is a four day event. It's a lot.
It's a slug.
Speaker 4: This one is a slug, but only one entry to
freeze out. I believes the one where they thought they
added the re entrance.
Speaker 1: I think it was back and forth seventeen different times.
But I believe it is a free freeze out. And
I even think that the way Twitter account tweeted out
the ten k plow freeze out.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just well like everyone knows this is the
freeze out.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: Renland busted, Jason Mercer busted, Mickey Duack, Brandis Shack, Harris Hucks, Seed,
Scott sever David Williams, Barney Bowtman and George Wolf have
all been eliminated.
Speaker 2: We also lost.
Speaker 1: Tommy Lee, the legend legend who I guess according to
this Poker News report because he's in the same hand
with Allen Lee was at the same table as his brother. Wow,
brother and brother crime. What's up with that?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So that's the ten k PLO. I would expect this
one to just get again nine hundred plus nine fifty.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: One of the other people that we lost in this
event was the one and only Daniel Legrando. Yeah, because
he made a boo boo good. What is it the
the oopsie meter? By the way, we have a duck
up that we've talked about.
Speaker 4: He has an oops Yeah, he has an oopsie me
because he misread his hand.
Speaker 2: Everyone's on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you Daniel Legrnanho or you're not Danny?
Speaker 2: I mean I did it in a one tune limn Cash.
You didn't do it in the ten k.
Speaker 1: You didn't do it in the ten k Polo Freeze
Out Championships, did you, right?
Speaker 2: Definitely not the PLOFC. That's the PLFC.
Speaker 1: So I guess this hand, according to Poker News, was
against Max Steinberg and it looks like his blind verse
blind Steinberg and the small blind in the big mine.
And I'm sure this will be on Daniel's log at
least I hope it will be, because we'll see the
upsie meter. But they get to a final board of
seven three deuce King ten, no flush present. Steinberg checks
negran New jams all in for what he had left
was forty six hundred at the time. Steinberg calls Niggaranney
turns over King Queen Jack knighte. I remember the board
is seven three duce King ten. Nigrania has King Queen
Jack Knine, so he just has a pair of kings
which is with a Queen kicker. And then he said
he immediately realizes what happened, and he says, I misread
my hand. Thought he had King ten girls. He would
have checked and Steinberg did have King ten, had King
ten eighty five. So Steinberg with the two pair, Nigaranny
thought he had two pair, and Negraneu is out and
he'll be on to the next one. So what are
you gonna do? Happens to everyone. I guess you can
just reenter right, No, you cannot. This is the freeze
out chamber time of the entire Partlam in Omaha World. Okay,
so no re entry for d N Eggs. A little
boo boo there, a little oopsie meter, but no big deal.
He'll be in the next tournament. The fifteen one hundred
dollars eight game is cruising along right now. Where are
we at in this one?
Speaker 4: There is a nineteen remaining the seven and eighty nine entrance.
Massive increase from lost year. I think it was like
four everyone's guaranteed seven k. Right now they're playing for
one hundred and eighty four thousand. Working out way from
the bottom op of the chip gas Brad Rubin shooting
for a second bracelet of the summer. Nico Milgrim there,
he's in fourteenth place.
Speaker 2: Niko's gonna win this one.
Speaker 4: This is Mokei, Steve Bila, Rakas Silk grinding away thirteenth
in chips. We have Scott Abrams up there, move up
fifteen chips.
Speaker 2: Xinyang low? Is that how we say it? Dingyang low?
Speaker 4: Anyway, he's shooting for his second bracelet of the summer,
fourth in twelve months, because he won two last summer,
and the chip leader is Nakas Nadelku I.
Speaker 1: Like when you have to say the names and I
don't know, this gives you a bit of arrest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, because you just trade off events
if you want. Okay, you just you're the boss. You
tell me what to do.
Speaker 1: Nineteen players remain. They're guaranteed seventy seven hundred dollars up top,
one hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. Congratulations Nico on
your first goal. Braceletcause you Saier are going to win
this one field bonus or I can already tell seventeen
no eight, well yeah, eighteen left?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he got a field bonus. How many were
in there? Seven eighty nine? Yeah, so field.
Speaker 1: Bonus of seven seven plus five or twelve, So right now,
twelve points for good old Nico Milgram.
Speaker 2: He's gonna win, so it doesn't matter. He is going
to win.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it. Yeah, I am feeling it. We have
the twenty five at all mixed big bet. Did that
start today?
Speaker 2: No? This is starting tomorrow Sunday?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: So? Only only the plos started today?
Speaker 2: Only the PLO side today? Figure? Remember I thought, well, yeah,
I mean we both we both messed up. It's a
double duck up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we announced. I said the mini main
event was starting on Saturday. I'm going to claim the
duck up mainly because every World series I built this
master Google sheet that everyone works off and it's normally perfect.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, it's.
Speaker 4: Colors highly questionable on that, guys, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Highly questionable.
Speaker 4: And for some reason I had the mini main events
starting on Saturday, and obviously no one questioned it because
my stuff is perfect and it actually starts on Sunday.
You thought it sat on, You thought it was weird
that decided on Sunday on Saturday, but you.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to question it because I never make a mistake.
Speaker 1: I mostly didn't question it because it was about four
time five morning over it. But yes, I was trying
to figure out how it was going to operate on
three hours of sleep and play the event.
Speaker 2: But thankfully I don't have to do that.
Speaker 4: Produce a rich You can put the little duck up
here that's on May. But yeah, that's gonna start Sunday.
Six thousand, seventy six runners lost. Yeah, the other events
thought he used the twenty five hundred mixed Big Bet
and that had four hundred and sixty eight runners in
twenty twenty four, so two events on Sunday Jelly twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: Well on this Mini main event, given the fact that
the Gladiators of Poker had three thousand more entries, yeah
than last year, or more than three thousand more inchries
in less year, right, how much was the total?
Speaker 2: Three thousand was?
Speaker 1: The last flight had three thousand more, so it had
almost four thousand more.
Speaker 4: For four thousand, yeah thirty nine, just under four thousand more.
Speaker 1: So given how big that is, I feel like that's
a nice lead in to then take a shot in
the Mini main event, especially if you cash, if you
act just part of that money, but you could also
be one of those things where you come on out
you're like, okay, I'll play I don't know, two or
three shells in the Gladiators of Poker, you know, six
hundred or nine hundred bucks, and then I got another
one thousand I can put into the Mini main two
thousand dollars a pretty good trip, you know, I get
two kicks at it.
Speaker 2: Let's go or you know, two events.
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is pretty good scheduling here
that at this Mini main event is going to be
pretty big. So you said, what last year was six
thousand and seventy six. I'm going sixty eight hundred. It's
a big number.
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to go much bigger actually,
So you know, I personally do think the difference between
three hundred one thousand is a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a good This is still the
good place.
Speaker 4: You know that the Gladiator is targets, So I didn't
see a lot of people going to Polay just you know,
coming here playing both see a lot of people taking
some shots in the Gladiators, you know, obviously one thousand dollars,
that's three bullets.
Speaker 2: In the Gladiators versus wanting the Mini.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree, there'll be an It is a Sunday,
you know, going into that kind of July fourth, you know,
take the week off, come to Vegas kind of like ideal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 4: It's gonna definitely be a nice, big one, nice lead
into the real.
Speaker 2: To the real main events. Yeah, I still wish they
called that.
Speaker 1: Nine game tournament the Mini PPC. They got the Mini
main event, they should have the Mini PPC. That's what
I would absolutely love to see. The main event starts
on Wednesday. I'm leaning more and more that it's just
gonna get bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: I feel like every day I add another fifty entries
in my head.
Speaker 2: So we'll see where we end up.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna work on a special main event
preview podcast coming up in the in the upcoming days,
so we'll have more on that. But another big day
ahead on or yeah, on Sunday at the twenty twenty
five World Series of Poker, I'm most looking forward to
that Ladies Championship Finals, say well, that will be streaming
on Poker Grow eight pm Eastern five pm Pacific time.
Shina Okamoto is looking to defend her title. She is
the chip leader with seven left, so I'm going to
be keeping an eye on that. I do have to
go do commentary over at Venetian. They got a sixteen
hundred dollars Ultimate Stack final table, so that's gonna be
a lot of fun as well. So if you want
to join us there, that stream starts at noon, Vegas
time three on the East Coast. I believe it should
be done or right around done at the latest before
the Ladies Championship, so you could do double duty. Yeah,
you could watch Remco and I doing that Venetian final table,
you know, and then you can hop on into the
Lad's Championship with Lon Mheron and Jen Shahati. So join
us in the streaming streets.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: We also actually have a third stream that day. Huh,
I have a third stream total. We have have the BENMGM.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. We do have creating cash game.
Speaker 4: So if you you know, if tournaments you bit style,
you want to come watch some cash games. BENMGM have
a few events starting tomorrow with firstly with a creative
cash game. Monday is the Big League Live streams. Got
a bunch of retired MLB athletes. Gary Sheffield, you know
that name, Garry Sheffield. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what
that is. I'm the baseball guy, Rich knows exactly what
I'm going. Andrew Jones you know that name? Yeah, and
with you and then A J. Purrensky. I think they're
the most the three famous guys. Apologies to you baseball
fans out there. I'm not a big baseball guy. But
that is on Monday, and then July fourth is the
ben MGM Poker Championship from Aria thirty five hundred dollars.
Main event they got some big They've had big numbers
all week, so I think that's going to be a
pretty big one.
Speaker 1: Some of these numbers that I've been hearing around town
for the last week or so, I know kind of
somewhere hit or miss, you know, kind of earlier in
the summer, but this last week everything sounds free gag.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this week and it's just yeah, it's just like
is everyone coming into town, is everyone finding some money?
We don't really know, but yeah, it does feel that
this week everything's kind of We've been turned off a
few notches with those you know, Aria specializing in those
one day eleven hundreds. You know, we have those big
the main events over at the wind that Ata Matrosian won.
So yeah, it seems like POK is getting quite busy
right now. Perfect Timmy really got the main event.
Speaker 1: It definitely is perfect timing, so tons of stuff going on.
Absolutely love to see it. I do have a couple
of shout outs that I kind of get to. I
missed some from yesterday. Again, it was like, you know,
four point thirty in the morning over the heck time,
it was by time we started cut to the end
of the podcast, So forgive me but Benjamin from Sarasota.
We chatted for probably twenty minutes, maybe a little bit
longer on just kind of the state of the poker industry,
the state of poker content, poker on TV, all that
sort of stuff. It was a very very good conversation
that I had with Benjamin. I believe also said that
he was Brazilian, makes his trip out here every summer,
has used it as his his Father's Day present, So
shout out to you. Benjamin. Really did enjoy our conversation.
It was very interesting. You know, one of the things
that we talked about specifically is kind of similar to
the NBA. And I know you're a basketball guy, so
I can I can draw these parallels here. But you know,
the NBA had, like right now, they have Lebron James
and Steph Curry, right those are the two biggest names,
but they're also kind of on their way out. Who
are the next stars that people are going to gravitate towards.
Similar to poker, you know, you got the Danie mcgrowney's,
got the Phil IV's, you've got the Phil Helmuth, right,
but they're not going to be around forever. I bet
it be well, Okay, yes, I mean, they're going to
be a long round forever. But are they how long
are they going to be around for? And how long
are they going to be around in the fact that
they're like winning and like at the top of the
game and all that sort of stuff, and like who's
that next wave, who's that next Luca Dunee?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like Mornin.
Speaker 1: Care honestly, Mark Garbrell could if he plays his cards right.
But you know, there's just got to be more than
just that. And I think that the Martin Martin Cobrell
thing is interesting because in the NBA specifically, I know,
there's a lot of conversations with you know, NBA heads
about how like the current biggest stars, at least the
youngest biggest stars aren't American. Yeah, so do you need
an American poker player to kind of rise up?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: There are a lot of poker players that they have
game and they're well known, but do they have the
personality that the older generation has? So that's kind of
what Benjamin and I were talking about, you know, because
that that really that's what sucks to like the mainstream fan,
like that's what they attached to.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, it's just something to think about, you know,
and I don't really know or have an answer, and
that's what we settle al on. But it's always kind
of something to think about, Like over these next stars.
Speaker 4: I think we've talked about this before that you know,
playing poker is so different to what it was in
the two thousands right where you know, these guys are
on TV. They knew that it was endorsement deals and stuff.
Nowadays it's very very different. These guys are more serious
to playing for bigger amounts of money. So what is
the value to them sitting there laughing, having a good time,
spilling a drink, throwing some jokes, doing some funny antics.
There's not that much about There's more value in the
poker side of things. Playing you know, perfect playing gto
playing the best you can to maximize your position being
at a final table or a feature table or something
like that. So the poker industry is very different to
what it was in the two thousands, when you know
ninety percent of fans grew up, you know, idolizing a
Grindo helm with madis out all these you know, the
way it was produced to.
Speaker 2: Highlight these stars.
Speaker 4: This is a different it's just kind of a different,
very different product now like back then, no live streams,
all edited episodes. Now kind of all live streams. And
I would say once people mostly watch live streams, they're
not probably tuning into the episode so they see, you know,
the long, the long drawn out gameplay versus you're going
to cut up all these highlights put them together for
you to tell a story. So I think it's just
very different. And I don't know if we're trying to
find the next personality, like the next Matters out, or
we're trying to find the next kind of players that
people look up to in certain ways, whether it's their mannerisms,
the way they kind of conduct themselves at the table,
or maybe they just like their style, like maybe they
want to be, you know, feel less and aggressive like
Alex Foxen. You know, they like the way, you know,
Nick Schulman acts at the table, the way Christy Foxon
acts at the table. So I think it's we're just
looking for different stars and it's not just it's just
not how it used to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the main point that the mean takeaway
that Benjamin and I settled on was we don't really
know what the answer is, you know, kind of like
you're saying, and it can be different for a lot
of different people. So I guess just kind of keep
our eyes on the lookout for it, and then when
we see it, whatever it is, just got to be
ready to pounce.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Obie from Germany, doc ober m. I got him a hat.
Don't worry. I got him a hat. You denied him
a hat, But I got him a hat because I
had one.
Speaker 2: Oh you hid one.
Speaker 1: I did not hide one, but I had one. It
was it was one hundred and twenty five percent not hidden.
In fact, when I put it where I put it,
you were with me. So shout out to Obie. Cameron
from Ventura, California. He usually plays cash, but he sat
he'd into the main. Oh good show. He's going to
be taking a shot there. I think he said he's
into the main for around three K or thirty five
hundred or something, so nice discount, affordable price. Cameron, shout
out to you. Hopefully you go deep in the main event.
We got Joseph from Seattle. He made me do a
weird back to back pose where we were like our
shoulders are leaning against each other. I mean, it was
kind of weird. I'm not really a pose guy like that.
I did it because I like the fans, but we
love all. That might be the first in life back
to back posts ever, so shout out to you surf
for getting me to do that. But never, it's never happening.
It's never happening again. We got Eric in the Gladiators
his second bullet, or he was on his second bullet.
Hopefully it works out. The first bullet did not work out.
He got it in top set verse bottom set and
the guy ran out a flush, so that was bad
news for Eric. Meeting a lot of people around here,
it's always fun see if you guys hop on in
to the main event, and if you are in the
main event, wrap that poke rel podcast hat. Let us
know how you're doing. Yeah, you know very much. Look
forward to it. And you know, if if you want
to send an email into the podcast at pokero dot com,
shoot us a DM or whatever. It's pretty simple these
days to just get in contact with us. We have
your name, We can quickly look out at your table
and see we can send her photographers out there. We
can get a photo of you like you know, we
can do all that sort of stuff nowadays. So don't
be shy. Definitely, definitely, definitely do not be shy. So
those are shout outs that I just wanted to get
to you. Got any for today?
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 1: I have not been here that I think good. I
have to run the bed m Jim side. No sounds good?
All right, Well that's gonna do it for us. His
name is Tim Duckworth, my name is Donnie Peters, and
we will talk to you guys next time.
Speaker 2: JA Express