Speaker 1: Aj aj pan everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, you're not changing.
Speaker 3: This is the law.
Speaker 2: Like you can't have the same first name.
Speaker 4: I mean there were quite a few a js, so
Speaker 4: you know, there are definitely the common name in wrestling.
Speaker 1: Oh a J.
Speaker 3: Lee got remember remember like back in like the twelve
Speaker 3: and five seven and in like wrestling, Abe's named Chris.
Speaker 5: Chris, Yeah, Chris, and law Christian Chris. Anyway, man, how
Speaker 5: you feeling, man, let's do to what's going on with you?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: I'm just enjoying, you know, so well, let's finally getting
Speaker 4: nice to enjoying the days, finally feeling a little more energized.
Speaker 4: When I I'm looking at my window, sun it's still out,
Speaker 4: thank goodness.
Speaker 1: So field that energy. That's bring energy.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. It's gonna be similar tomorrow too.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm so excited, so excited for that.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, uh so reput ty buy a bunch of self.
Speaker 1: I've been in the industry for over twenty years.
Speaker 4: I've pretty much done almost everything from rennouncing, managing, commentary,
Speaker 4: a lot of backstage work. I've been in the ring
Speaker 4: a couple of times, so I've yeah, and I've worked
Speaker 4: with some of the biggest names in the industry. I've
Speaker 4: done stuff with a lot of rookies, so yeah, this
Speaker 4: has been in my blood since the age of ten.
Speaker 4: Loved his business and happy to still be doing it
Speaker 4: currently working with BCWBRE Combination Wrestling behind the scenes and
Speaker 4: in front of the camera there. So we're giving up
Speaker 4: for our next show this Sunday, so first of the
Speaker 4: year for us, So very very excited for that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I had I had dream lond this all last week, right,
Speaker 3: and he spoke very highly of you.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, very nice here, Yeah, into my intern Jerry, Yes,
Speaker 4: what could.
Speaker 2: Tell you about the relationship with him?
Speaker 4: You know, he's I mean, he's not a newcomer anymore,
Speaker 4: but he's been around i'd say less than five years.
Speaker 4: We worked together in another organization, Titan Championship Wrestling. I
Speaker 4: was representing my client, Rake Lee Tree, and he was
Speaker 4: just always you know, he was always there helping out,
Speaker 4: wanting to learn, wanting to do whatever to help the company.
Speaker 4: And he'd always be wanting you know, he'd approached me
Speaker 4: and happy for any advice, and I you know, I
Speaker 4: appreciate people like that because it's hard to find in
Speaker 4: the industry. People are always not always, but it's more
Speaker 4: common where everybody, even people starting now looking for themselves
Speaker 4: or they're too nervous to ask. And he was just
Speaker 4: very outgoing about wanting to learn and telling me that
Speaker 4: you know who we studied both characterized on the big
Speaker 4: level and you know a complement of my work which
Speaker 4: I found. You know, I was very honor advised. So yeah,
Speaker 4: whatever I could do to help him, I was very.
Speaker 1: Happy to do it.
Speaker 4: And an opportunity arose to having BCW, I was happy
Speaker 4: to help him get on board.
Speaker 1: And now he's intern with me America's favorite agents.
Speaker 3: Okay, so best we've been doing for quite some time, right,
Speaker 3: So tell me everywhere? Tell me everywhere you worked in
Speaker 3: the wrestling industry.
Speaker 4: I mean the list goes from Drew McIntyre all the
Speaker 4: way down to you know, people i'm marketing with now,
Speaker 4: Guys starting out, you know, like Jerry Uh, guys like
Speaker 4: Face Jack O. There's a lot of new up and comers.
Speaker 4: But I've worked with so many, you know, Johnny Gargano
Speaker 4: when he was coming up and evolved, Candice Loret, the
Speaker 4: Young Bucks, Jeff Jarrett.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've been I've been fortunate enough to work
Speaker 1: with so many of these.
Speaker 3: Names and Andre and cot places you worked there in
Speaker 3: the industry f w.
Speaker 1: E Family Wrestling Entertainment. We were around for a couple
Speaker 1: of years.
Speaker 4: I was also working back stage today as long as
Speaker 4: re announcing uh E c w A the East Coast
Speaker 4: Wrestling Association. I was there for about five years. Had good.
Speaker 4: I got a legendary run there for five years with
Speaker 4: the PCA. My group currently BUE Combination Wrestling, Titan Championship Wrestling,
Speaker 4: Upper Limit Wrestling. Those are the men jumping off the
Speaker 4: top of my head right now. I'm sure I might
Speaker 4: be getting one or two, but those are a lot
Speaker 4: of companies I was very happy to work with, very
Speaker 4: proud to work with and happy with my history.
Speaker 1: Is there?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Currently one Recombination and Tiant Championship rate just Recombination right now?
Speaker 3: Oh gotcha? Okay, Okay, cool, cool, cool, Okay. For those
Speaker 3: who are now tuning in, right, I'm joining my guests,
Speaker 3: Azy Pan the guiding lights. Before I get into it, right,
Speaker 3: we'll quick explain that. Explain, like why do you call
Speaker 3: yourself the guiding light and the governor?
Speaker 1: So your guiding light. Actually, I've been going for years
Speaker 1: by America's favorite agent. I still do.
Speaker 4: Your guiding light kind of evolved during the pandemic because
Speaker 4: I was feeling down and I thought a lot of
Speaker 4: other people were feeling down. So besides just trying to
Speaker 4: help everybody get back on track, I realized, really as
Speaker 4: and doing an America's Favorite agent and my roles backstage,
Speaker 4: I was really becoming a guiding light too many up
Speaker 4: and comers, because a lot of them would be coming
Speaker 4: up to me asking for my advice, you know, in
Speaker 4: the ring, outside the ring, during helping out with their promos.
Speaker 4: So I realized, you know, I was definitely just more
Speaker 4: than an on screen kind of character and a non
Speaker 4: screen presence, but I was actually lee helping these these
Speaker 4: kids and these talents, you know, find their footing. So
Speaker 4: that's where the guiding light would come from. But I've
Speaker 4: also been an America's Favorite agent and the governor. You know,
Speaker 4: everybody's been commissioners, everybody's been general managers from New York.
Speaker 4: I gotta do something different, and I had been my nickname,
Speaker 4: you know, for years in different bars and social settings.
Speaker 4: So when the opportunity came for me, I'm like, why
Speaker 4: not be the governor of BCW and governor over the the.
Speaker 1: Locker room and my constituents to the fans.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, tell me about about being the beast the
Speaker 3: Recombination wrestling content creator.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell me about that. I know, you know, again
Speaker 1: like the post pandemic.
Speaker 4: I sat down with the owner of the company, Anthony Cole,
Speaker 4: and I had been working there since almost the beginning
Speaker 4: of the company, you know, as an assistant booker and
Speaker 4: also on their talents as managing, a manager and commentator.
Speaker 4: But he wanted to see a different change in direction
Speaker 4: and I was, knowing what we've been through as a company,
Speaker 4: knowing the talents a little bit more maybe than he has,
Speaker 4: and a little bit more of the industry.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: He gave me the chance to come and and help
Speaker 4: him with a lot more duties and that's where that came.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was very.
Speaker 4: Exciting to handle more responsibilities where you know, I'm I,
Speaker 4: I have the the honor, and I'm getting able to
Speaker 4: go up to talent. This is what we need for
Speaker 4: you backstage for interviews, that's what we need from you
Speaker 4: in the ring. This is what we're kind of seeing
Speaker 4: your character development. Talking to talent outside of our company
Speaker 4: and trying to get them into BCW, working with production,
Speaker 4: with the commentators a lot of them, you know, Unlike
Speaker 4: the larger companies, there's not a whole lot of structure
Speaker 4: where all that goes to. So a lot of that
Speaker 4: falls onto me, and I'm happy. I'm happy to do that.
Speaker 4: Stressful times a lot of times, but to see the
Speaker 4: finished product and as soon as that final bell rings,
Speaker 4: to have the fans come up and I get to hear,
Speaker 4: you know, what a great show that was.
Speaker 1: They enjoyed it so much. To hear from our peers.
Speaker 4: And after those shows, other talents contacting us wanting to
Speaker 4: work for us because they've heard such great things or
Speaker 4: they've seen such great things, that makes it all worthwhile.
Speaker 1: In the end.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, cool cool, cool cool cool Okay, okay, real quick.
Speaker 3: So so you're more behind the scenes type of dude,
Speaker 3: and you're more of a a like a a non
Speaker 3: rustling figure on camera, right, it's starting.
Speaker 1: To lean more towards I still manage.
Speaker 2: On camera, and I do.
Speaker 4: I'll jump on commentary here and there, but I'm starting
Speaker 4: to fade back a little bit. But it's still fun.
Speaker 4: I still manage BCW. I still have my PCA, the
Speaker 4: Pans Corp.
Speaker 2: Agents.
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm representing a notorious Mimi and she is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's our women's champion.
Speaker 1: Right now and stunning law Emily j and Journey Burke.
Speaker 4: They are our tag team champions, not our women's are
Speaker 4: tag team champions. So yeah, so I'm happy to be
Speaker 4: doing that. But yeah, you know, back in the day,
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of years ago, I was all
Speaker 4: over different shows. I love, you know, thankfully, you know,
Speaker 4: they I appreciated my talents and I was managing maybe
Speaker 4: four or five talents a show.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely a getting time. I'm enjoying doing
Speaker 1: a lot more.
Speaker 4: Creative and helping out backstage, and it's just too stressful.
Speaker 4: We'll be doing so concentrating on that then have to
Speaker 4: switch to being the on air personality. It's a lot,
Speaker 4: but I'm still fun and as long as I can
Speaker 4: do both, I'm gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Tell me about telling.
Speaker 3: About the transition from you know, being in the ring
Speaker 3: clip which like come do now, like when was it
Speaker 3: in I'll do transition.
Speaker 4: It started about four years ago because I just realized
Speaker 4: I was starting to do that pre pandemic, and I
Speaker 4: just realized like it was too much for me to
Speaker 4: do all of that at once. Like every time I'd
Speaker 4: be on commentary and somebody would run up to me,
Speaker 4: you know and pat me on the you know, tap
Speaker 4: me on the arm, and I take off the headset.
Speaker 1: Oh you needed backstage for something.
Speaker 4: So I'd have to find a way to you know,
Speaker 4: not make it seem like there's an emergency and in
Speaker 4: story and in character leave the broadcast table to deal
Speaker 4: with the real life issue backstage and then you know,
Speaker 4: take a breather for a minute, come back on the
Speaker 4: next match and get back on commentary or go back
Speaker 4: to managing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was definitely a lot.
Speaker 4: So I realized that I'm like, listen, you know, I
Speaker 4: appreciate that you still want me to do on camera stuff,
Speaker 4: but if you need me in this position, I kind
Speaker 4: of need to take a step back from doing a
Speaker 4: lot of on camera work and concentrate on what we
Speaker 4: have going on backstage to make sure our shows went smoothly.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how that started.
Speaker 4: And yeah, four years later, it's progressed to where we
Speaker 4: are now where and I'm thankfully you know.
Speaker 1: It took a little bit of time, but we're running.
Speaker 1: We're running pretty smoothly now.
Speaker 4: Well, obviously with everything, it could be a lot, you know,
Speaker 4: was always room for Yes, this is never perfection, but
Speaker 4: it's always room to improve. So yeah, so definitely, I'm
Speaker 4: very happy where we are now and this is gonna
Speaker 4: be you know, we had a couple of week our
Speaker 4: last show was December, so we're coming to Martha with
Speaker 4: a strong show coming up this Sunday, So not gonna
Speaker 4: be a test, but it's going to be definitely good
Speaker 4: to see everybody and keep the momentum going tomorrow. Last event,
Speaker 4: which was a lot of people were very happy with
Speaker 4: and told us what a great time they had and
Speaker 4: what a great show it was.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping for the same for this one.
Speaker 3: Okay, real quick, before we get into a Mend's at
Speaker 3: the Mecca, I mean this weekend, right, tell me would
Speaker 3: you so, would you like consider wrestling again?
Speaker 4: Wrestling is oh uh, I never I'm one of the
Speaker 4: few people I never had a desire to be in
Speaker 4: the ring. My influence is growing up for Bobby Heen
Speaker 4: and Paul Aim and so I wanted to do commentary
Speaker 4: and managing that's it. And one day I just got
Speaker 4: thrown into the ring. They were like, listen, your partner,
Speaker 4: your guys partners in here. You're wrestling tonight. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what excuse me? I like no, like they're gonna take
Speaker 4: care of you, but you're you're wrestling tonight, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, things that you never expected. I ended up
Speaker 4: walking out that I won half of the Tax Tam
Speaker 4: Champions of ECWA. So you know, I'm thankful for those opportunities,
Speaker 4: but I I'm not that athletic.
Speaker 1: I leave that to the wrestlers. I respect everything they do.
Speaker 4: I don't know how they do it sometimes three times
Speaker 4: a weekend, you know, for all that time I had
Speaker 4: one one like I was one match. I was feeling
Speaker 4: it for you know, two or three weeks afterwards. Definitely,
Speaker 4: I've had some fun moments and they I've had four
Speaker 4: matches I was involved in, and yeah, it was great,
Speaker 4: great memories, great opportunities. But I'm definitely not looking to to.
Speaker 3: Any Okay, okay, So do you take bookings as like
Speaker 3: a non wrestling personality.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, definitely. If anything's opening, I'll open and listen
Speaker 4: to discussions. I'd love to help out more. Companies backstage,
Speaker 4: you know, some mentoring for promo classes and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm open.
Speaker 4: I've done commentary and stuff, so yeah, definitely open to
Speaker 4: helping out.
Speaker 1: But right now, you know, I'm happy with BCW.
Speaker 4: We're kicking along and but yeah, definitely definitely always open
Speaker 4: to to just have a discussion and see tell them
Speaker 4: how real.
Speaker 3: Quick, tell him how to cant book you.
Speaker 4: You could mess up email me at Ajpan p c
Speaker 4: A at gmail dot com, or hit me up on
Speaker 4: you know, uh twit, Twitter or x or however you
Speaker 4: want to refer to it. Ajpan underscore p c A
Speaker 4: and on Instagram Ajpan PC.
Speaker 2: You got you all right? Right? Cool? Cool? Cool?
Speaker 3: All right, Bett, let's talk about it. Then let's talk
Speaker 3: about this. Uh so we have this commune. We can
Speaker 3: mad this at the by the way, athos anything else
Speaker 3: before I get into it, I'm coming up.
Speaker 2: So we have mad this of the MECA coming up.
Speaker 2: I very excited for that five this weekend. Right before
Speaker 2: I get into that, athing else coming up?
Speaker 1: Know about that's my main thing wrestling. I host karaoke.
Speaker 4: If you're in New York City, I host karaoke nights
Speaker 4: every Tuesday night, at one in one Bar in the
Speaker 4: East Village, So we have a great time there.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes some of my my coworkers and wrestler's come up
Speaker 1: to show some support, so you never know who you'll
Speaker 1: see there.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, no saying like anything else coming up other than
Speaker 3: like Madison and Mecca, anything else coming.
Speaker 1: Up for BCW. That's the main event we have right now.
Speaker 4: We're hoping to have an announcement in the next two
Speaker 4: weeks for our next event in May Fingers Crossed, So
Speaker 4: I can't say anything yet, but we're hoping to have
Speaker 4: it a ficial announcement within the next week or two.
Speaker 3: About that, Okay, Okay, I still scan Twist so you
Speaker 3: will be there right and you're in the corner of fuck.
Speaker 3: You're in the corner of Notorious Mimi, the current BCW
Speaker 3: Women's Champion actually defense against Ava Effort.
Speaker 2: Am I correct, Yes, that is correct? All right? Tell
Speaker 2: me about that. What's going with that?
Speaker 4: Mimi won the championship at our last event Christmas with
Speaker 4: a vengeance. She'd be Vicious Vicky, who was the longest
Speaker 4: reigning women's champions. She had a great reign. It was
Speaker 4: a fans choice match. They voted Mimi out of three
Speaker 4: other contenders the story seeing me earlier that year won
Speaker 4: the Queen of the North Turner. It was basically, in
Speaker 4: a way, the winner of that also receives a kind
Speaker 4: of money in the bank style contract that they could
Speaker 4: challenge for the championship whenever they want to other champions.
Speaker 1: They want to be very diplomatic, and they made their
Speaker 1: choices ahead of time. When I saw that this match
Speaker 1: was defans choice in my back pocket, I always had
Speaker 1: to have. I knew we had that contract. So Vicky
Speaker 1: did win that match?
Speaker 4: Good for you. You want to what the first there? Immediately following,
Speaker 4: I made sure Stunning Law was watching.
Speaker 1: They came out.
Speaker 4: Uh you know, we had to hit the stunning snap
Speaker 4: on VICKI. We cashed in the contract. One two, three
Speaker 4: new champions. So while people might hate it wasn't illegal.
Speaker 4: We did everything within our rights. Our head referee Shady
Speaker 4: checked the contract, as did the owner of BCW, Anthony Cole.
Speaker 1: New champion.
Speaker 4: Very proud and Mimi is gonna continue to dominate and
Speaker 4: we are in the angel Era right now. If ever,
Speaker 4: those are talented competitor, I've seen what I've seen her
Speaker 4: almost from her start in wrestling and to see the
Speaker 4: evolution of where she's gone from. You know, she worked
Speaker 4: with Anthony Green back in the day. Then she was
Speaker 4: doing a little more of a comedic style wrestling, and
Speaker 4: now she's evolved and she's so technically sound to see
Speaker 4: where she's torn overseas. So it's definitely gonna be a
Speaker 4: really great match. But you know, mem he's gonna come
Speaker 4: out the.
Speaker 2: Victory, Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: And then also we have intern Jerry versus d Vibes,
Speaker 3: thus on that real quick. I know, I know Jerry's
Speaker 3: your boy, so thus on that Quillan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Jerry. We're happy to see him back
Speaker 1: in the ring at BCW.
Speaker 4: He hasn't been back since the Grand Rumble match back
Speaker 4: in August and he was one of the final four.
Speaker 4: So Jerry, Jerry's an interesting individual, you know, like no
Speaker 4: matter what, the people he reminds me of like this,
Speaker 4: this Erar is the modern day Mikey Whipbreck. Like people
Speaker 4: just want to get behind Jerry. People love him for
Speaker 4: some reason. I mean I love him too. But you know,
Speaker 4: there's been night time sitting in the back and you
Speaker 4: know we're all looking at it and we're like Jerry is
Speaker 4: getting over. Jerry is over. People love Jerry, so you
Speaker 4: know hopefully that you know, I think the people are
Speaker 4: gonna love him again. D Vibe Deevi has been trying
Speaker 4: to you know, make his mark here in BCW. He's
Speaker 4: in and out, but he's a talented individual himself. Definitely
Speaker 4: looking folks is going to be a test for Jerry,
Speaker 4: so see him. Hopefully he can make it back on
Speaker 4: the main roster, uh consistently, but the Vibe he's definitely
Speaker 4: looking to scratch his way and to get into contention
Speaker 4: for you know, maybe a Grand Grand Dragon Championship opportunity.
Speaker 1: Who know, but it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: This is good, good match for both guys to get
Speaker 4: their footing back in BCW and see who climbs up
Speaker 4: the ladder.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, there's a lot of masses announced.
Speaker 1: I believe our whole card is announced.
Speaker 4: It might be one surprise, we don't know, but right
Speaker 4: now our whole card is announced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have you have Kah J J.
Speaker 3: Bougie versus Bond for the Grand Dragons, the Grand Dragon Championship.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 3: You got Harlen Lopez versus Andy Brown. You also got
Speaker 3: stunning the Law versus Survival of the Thickest.
Speaker 1: Survivor Studying Law on my theme. Yes, were looking forward
Speaker 1: to that match. Mm hm hmmm.
Speaker 2: They're also the current Wow, so anybody matched or champions?
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know I represent winners. I represent winners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick, right, I'm not gonna do every single
Speaker 3: match on this card. But you also got I think
Speaker 3: are going versus Case in the Barrow that uh no colors,
Speaker 3: just brothers versus selfully finest. They got the main event
Speaker 3: out for zoom uh uh Darius Carter defending the BCW
Speaker 3: World Championship against Sawn Donovan. I have tomorrow at seven
Speaker 3: or six thirty to the calendar Espio dot Com to
Speaker 3: mix to see.
Speaker 1: Done.
Speaker 3: But yeah, all right, so I said I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: go every single match because there's a lot. But what's
Speaker 3: that relevant to you?
Speaker 2: Real quick quick?
Speaker 3: Coming about the girls, right, I'm telling about Stunning Law
Speaker 3: versus s Abovo the Thickest for the.
Speaker 2: For the Tag Team Championship.
Speaker 1: You know, Stunying Law.
Speaker 4: We have a big history in BCW, but there almost
Speaker 4: a contrast from what MEMI is. Like MEMI was at
Speaker 4: this point when I started managing MEMI representing her. She's
Speaker 4: been established, she's been she's killed it all over the Northeast.
Speaker 4: She had her NXT run. Uh she I just said,
Speaker 4: I saw her. I know she's a star. And Emily
Speaker 4: and Journey, I kind of saw them almost within their
Speaker 4: first year of wrestling in different companies. And I definitely
Speaker 4: there ones because I'm always still scouting both for the
Speaker 4: company and for the PCA, and they're definitely something I
Speaker 4: saw diamonds in the rough.
Speaker 1: I saw.
Speaker 4: That they were definitely people who in a couple of
Speaker 4: years time, people are gonna be talking a lot about.
Speaker 4: I believe Journey started in twenty end of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: She came in PCW and Emily the following in January
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three. And yeah, they both had their
Speaker 4: separate paths in BW for a little while, and then
Speaker 4: they both came under the tutelage of myself and they
Speaker 4: progressed from there and they beat last year Blonde Forced
Speaker 4: Trauma for the BCW Tag Team Championships and other team
Speaker 4: I represented. There was a little friction between Emily and
Speaker 4: Journey for a whiles, a little jealousy, but that was
Speaker 4: their opportunity to prove do you belong at this level
Speaker 4: against talent like Raylen and Heather Monroe or are you
Speaker 4: gonna keep fighting like children? And they prove themselves and
Speaker 4: now they are are the champions. They have been raigning.
Speaker 4: They've had a couple of defenses already, so I'm very
Speaker 4: proud of them. But they have they faced survival of
Speaker 4: the thickest. They've been making name for themselves to Sammy Chaos, Kaitlin,
Speaker 4: Marie and I basically learned. You know, both girls have
Speaker 4: their each uh issues with both Journey and Sammy have
Speaker 4: been battling it out as well as Emily and Caitlin.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be interesting to see both of those
Speaker 4: fewds combined in this match. But and hashtag still you're
Speaker 4: tagging champions stunning law.
Speaker 2: Okay, that forgive me like I am, I'm listening to
Speaker 2: I hear various listeners and that there still interaction that
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I have my notes, I have the their questions,
Speaker 3: so just to give me pull myself. Okay, Okay, uh
Speaker 3: bet bet bet so quick question? Are you aware of
Speaker 3: and if so, are you on the mobile gimmick?
Speaker 1: I am not on the mobile Gammick.
Speaker 2: You are I am not, okay, it is this. It
Speaker 2: is this app that do you know who C M
Speaker 2: C is?
Speaker 5: No, you know yea.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, don't worry.
Speaker 2: I don't worry about it now.
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a project that that he and
Speaker 3: Lorie Ballter are working on. It's like it's almost like
Speaker 3: a LinkedIn for Rest for independent wrestlers. Okay, and stuffing
Speaker 3: like that is that there they sponsored exclusive matches as
Speaker 3: evident from one the Visions pro Unions path two weeks
Speaker 3: ago to that third.
Speaker 2: So I'm just going to just suggest.
Speaker 3: That you're already on right, make that you can bottom
Speaker 3: on Instagram at the mobile gimmick all one word there's
Speaker 3: a link in a bile click that put you and
Speaker 3: then like you prequalified like an accountant.
Speaker 2: This that there. So I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 1: Saying, okay, okay, definitely look into that.
Speaker 3: I'm on the waiting lists to be on there. It's
Speaker 3: like a non to be booked as a non wrestling wrestler.
Speaker 1: So yeah, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, all right, and.
Speaker 3: Speaking of which, speaking of which, right, oh, I have
Speaker 3: here my notes right, tell me, oh, tell us about
Speaker 3: your podcast?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I haven't done it in a while. Definitely
Speaker 1: gonna start during over the next month or two again
Speaker 1: On the Rocks with a J pen.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: There's been so many podcasts and I never really was
Speaker 4: a podcast person for the longest. The pandemic got me
Speaker 4: into one or two podcasts. So I'm more of a
Speaker 4: visual person.
Speaker 1: So I didn't really am like a like I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear people, but I'm like, oh, all right,
Speaker 1: I get it now. I'm like nine.
Speaker 4: It's easier when you're on the run, when you're doing
Speaker 4: all things to listen to and so uh so, yeah,
Speaker 4: I decided to start one of my Well, people like,
Speaker 4: what do you know about I said, I'm another wrestling one,
Speaker 4: because I mean, I still have rest flers guests at times.
Speaker 4: But besides that, I'm a big social person I could
Speaker 4: go to. I've worked in bars for a while, so
Speaker 4: I decided to combine that with my little entertainment. So
Speaker 4: that's where On the Rocks.
Speaker 2: Was gave.
Speaker 4: You know, I gave birth to that, and yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 4: I've interviewed dresslers on and I've interviewed bartenders, everybody, anybody
Speaker 4: basically in the entertainment industry or they are it's entertainment photographers, podcasters,
Speaker 4: just as mostly singers, comedians, small in dependent artists, trying
Speaker 4: to grow each of our brands. And yeah, but if
Speaker 4: I definitely, I've just had so many other things going on.
Speaker 4: I've taken a little hiatus with it, but hoping to
Speaker 4: come back within a month or two and have new
Speaker 4: episodes of On the Rocks. So yeah, definitely follow that
Speaker 4: as well. Hope they'll be the information coming up on that.
Speaker 2: Where how can we how can how can we find
Speaker 2: the podcast?
Speaker 1: We're on Spotify.
Speaker 4: I do have an Instagram account for it On the
Speaker 4: Rocks with aj Pan looked that up. Yeah, those are
Speaker 4: the two best ways.
Speaker 1: To find it.
Speaker 2: I mean check, I mean to check it out.
Speaker 3: I will and then if I like it, right, I'm gonna,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a call or a text. Hey, listen,
Speaker 3: let me let me add this to my network.
Speaker 1: Definite.
Speaker 2: All right, cool, cool, cool, I got here listen questions
Speaker 2: for it earlier? Right, you said that you were a
Speaker 2: Rustling fan, right, yes, Well when did you get when
Speaker 2: did you? When did you become a fan? This person?
Speaker 4: I want to say it was gonn eight or nine
Speaker 4: or ninety The first match I remember seeing was Saturday
Speaker 4: Night's main event, Hulk Cogan versus Randy Savage with Buster
Speaker 4: Douglas as the referee, And that's actually why I started
Speaker 4: watching it. My dad is a huge boxing fan, so
Speaker 4: me and my mom would just slipping into the channels
Speaker 4: one night and I'm like, oh, wait, stop, stop, remember
Speaker 4: like that, wait stop, that's one of the guys daddy knows,
Speaker 4: and uh, Savage just caught my eyes. He was one
Speaker 4: of my first favorites, just like the colorful metsuff him,
Speaker 4: the character, the promo skills. My mom was soap opera fan.
Speaker 4: So the two worlds of you know, sports and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, entertainment combined. Not even thinking that there was
Speaker 4: something that actually resisted. I combined it too, And as
Speaker 4: soon as I saw that, I'm like, I gotta find
Speaker 4: out what this is because this is really cool.
Speaker 1: And ever since then I was hooked. And you know,
Speaker 1: here we are over thirty years, has been a fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, cool cool cool cool cool. Uh I've
Speaker 2: art questionship you kind of already answered them with I'm
Speaker 2: right there right.
Speaker 1: Some of your work for you.
Speaker 3: Real quick plugs plugs like social media bookings, uh cooming dates,
Speaker 3: oh whatever plugs shout out, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah right now, you know you can find Like I
Speaker 4: said earlier, you can find me on Twitter x whatever
Speaker 4: you call it a j Pan and on the score PCA,
Speaker 4: on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1: Can find me at ajpan PC Gibson and booking me
Speaker 1: for any know and managing ringing out and saying well
Speaker 1: I have some ringing ask you so much.
Speaker 4: You know, but mceing and events wrestling or not ajpan
Speaker 4: pc A at gmail dot com. Uh said, if you're
Speaker 4: in New York City or the neighboring areas, every Tuesday night,
Speaker 4: I host Karaoke Night at one in One Bar on.
Speaker 1: Seventy six East First Street. Come by there. We know
Speaker 1: we have a good time. Like I said, sometimes we
Speaker 1: have some of this wrestlers come by drop by to
Speaker 1: support me. J C.
Speaker 4: Storm has been by Ruthless Laala, Anthony Cole, Mike Laws,
Speaker 4: so you never know who might show up.
Speaker 1: We have a good time there. Also, you got you know,
Speaker 1: follow recombination wrestling on all of our socials.
Speaker 4: See there they have how it's because it's so big.
Speaker 4: I believe it's you definitely can just be our I
Speaker 4: I I believe. On Instagram it's underscore combination on the
Speaker 4: score wrestling. If it's not get away with you on
Speaker 4: the scores, just a recombination. You'll find us on all
Speaker 4: those on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, where I don't I don't
Speaker 4: think we're on We're working on TikTok, but we're on
Speaker 4: those main three. If you want tickets for this weekend's event, uh,
Speaker 4: you could look us up on event right that's where
Speaker 4: tickets are being sold.
Speaker 1: They are moving fast, so you know, get them now
Speaker 1: and we will.
Speaker 4: Also if you can't make it a person, we will
Speaker 4: be streaming live on Title Match Network this Sunday, So
Speaker 4: go to Title Match look that up. You could register
Speaker 4: right now or you know, registered that day. But yeah,
Speaker 4: if you can't make it live, please join us on
Speaker 4: the on the live stream. It's going to be This
Speaker 4: is and I hate saying I said this on on
Speaker 4: the podcast, you know, but like this to me, I
Speaker 4: feel this is one of the strongest shows on paper
Speaker 4: we've had in quite a while. So most other shows
Speaker 4: and I'm lucky I say that because they exceed most
Speaker 4: shows exceed my expectations. This one on paper, it's if
Speaker 4: it even lives up to what I'm seeing and most again,
Speaker 4: like I said, most time, all these talented workers, they
Speaker 4: exceed my expectations. This is gonna be a fantastic event,
Speaker 4: a great way to kick off twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Remember, doors open two pm belt with a three pm
Speaker 3: live we tele Masa says, this is my setts Now actress.
Speaker 3: Address is of course one of six Burgh and Anue
Speaker 3: Richbald Park, New Jersey. There so check it out, Madison
Speaker 3: Mecca Right, I've always been mean to come out. I've
Speaker 3: always been meaning to come check out a BCW show.
Speaker 3: And also I just do do press for real that there,
Speaker 3: but I mean lifely life and not that it's like
Speaker 3: a whole less.
Speaker 2: So sounds easy. It's like, let me head out to
Speaker 2: BCW real quick in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: Not that, but I always want to and if the
Speaker 3: if the timing is correct.
Speaker 2: Right is right.
Speaker 1: From the Yeah, would have to have you down that
Speaker 1: way and if.
Speaker 2: You have any press, right even if I can't make it,
Speaker 2: If you have any press, let me know.
Speaker 1: We'll talk.
Speaker 4: What's talk?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, before we close out, well real quick, give me
Speaker 3: your thoughts on Sean don Ben against U current champion
Speaker 3: Darius Carter for the championship at at Benston Mecca.
Speaker 4: I mean that's that's that main event is worth the
Speaker 4: price for admission alone. The first time match between the two.
Speaker 4: They host the podcast together, so that that was initially
Speaker 4: we were worried if they would want to.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I know Darius were had no problem.
Speaker 4: I don't know if Sean would be interest in the
Speaker 4: magic weal he definitely was interested and excuse me, and
Speaker 4: yeah this they never faced it before. I've known Sean
Speaker 4: for many years. I know I've known Darius for many
Speaker 4: years as well. Diari Obviously, I'm a lot closer with Darius.
Speaker 4: I've worked a lot with him, I want to say
Speaker 4: it within the last ten years. So Darius is just
Speaker 4: one of those talents that are on another level in
Speaker 4: every category in the ring, character wise, behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Whenever you need him for any you need him for media,
Speaker 1: you need to do anything you ask of him.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's He's definition of what a champion should be. Uh.
Speaker 4: Sean Donovan though he's a workhorse, he has done so
Speaker 4: much in the industry, Uh, so many championships.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the trainers that created pro Russell.
Speaker 4: Throw he's been there for ages, so he's definitely one
Speaker 4: of definitely was what I want to say. There's no
Speaker 4: insult him, but one of the most underrated guys in
Speaker 4: the Northeast on the independent scene. So this is definitely
Speaker 4: gonna be a fantastic I'm excited. I was so excited
Speaker 4: when both men were like, so they were happy for
Speaker 4: this match we have when movie starts to Shore and
Speaker 4: he's like, oh, hell yeah, I would love to have
Speaker 4: this match, Like, oh, thank goodness, Well let's see we
Speaker 4: can make the day work.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we got it from Madison a mecca.
Speaker 4: So if you're if you're a fan of the Northeast
Speaker 4: wrestling scene, you've seen both these guys.
Speaker 1: You know how talented they both are having been one
Speaker 1: ring together. This is gonna be one you do not
Speaker 1: want to miss. Like I can't.
Speaker 4: I'm trying not to oversell him because I know it
Speaker 4: sells itself, but I literally, as a fan.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching these two killing in the ring.
Speaker 3: Do me a favor, new because I've been trying for
Speaker 3: the longest and I know you, I know you sure
Speaker 3: you can pull this off. Let's say talk to your boy,
Speaker 3: Darius Carter right, Akay, So I've been trying to book
Speaker 3: him for the longest.
Speaker 4: Come on, I'll talk to him. I'll talk to him.
Speaker 4: He's tough though, like that. And even the last show,
Speaker 4: one of my friends who who does podcasting, and I
Speaker 4: know he doesn't because he never likes to hang out
Speaker 4: afterwards and see the fan.
Speaker 1: But his son was a big fan. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't guarantee it.
Speaker 4: I'll ask and I'm like, damn, you might just come
Speaker 4: up court take He's like, all right for you their
Speaker 4: friend of yours.
Speaker 1: I'll come up and he's just Darius, a little tough.
Speaker 1: But well, I'll definitely working on it. I'll definitely say what.
Speaker 2: If I knew, if I knew you tried that, I.
Speaker 4: Definitely yeah, I'll definitely try. Yeah, but if you're making it,
Speaker 4: if you're making out press that that might make it easier.
Speaker 1: I might be able to do something. Why So we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'll I'll talk to him. I'll definitely talk to Darius.
Speaker 2: All right, but but but but any any last words
Speaker 2: for close out?
Speaker 4: You know, for definitely you know BCW. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm very proud of what we've accomplished in the past.
Speaker 4: Couple of years. Uh, definitely, if you're if you're if
Speaker 4: you're around the area, or you're not. Like I said,
Speaker 4: we're live, come and check us out. We have a
Speaker 4: lot of great talent on the show where we're looking
Speaker 4: and we've had a lot of great time in the pass. So,
Speaker 4: like you never know who you're gonna see. Joe Gacy,
Speaker 4: he's a former BCW World champion. Yeah yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a former world champion. Yeah, he's one of the
Speaker 4: he's the second ever BCW champions. So uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we've had you know, a lot of people have come
Speaker 4: in and out of our doors. But I said, right now,
Speaker 4: I think it's one of our strongest rosters. We're firing
Speaker 4: on all stones between great matches, great characters. Uh, just
Speaker 4: the talent, production, the storylines, everything is really clicking for us.
Speaker 4: So I think now is the time if you haven't yet,
Speaker 4: or if you haven't watched in a while, check us out.
Speaker 1: Come live. It's a even live is such a different atmosphere.
Speaker 4: Like you know, I and I see clips of other
Speaker 4: in these shows, independent shows, and sometimes you know, the
Speaker 4: crowds like could be a packed crowd and it's so
Speaker 4: it's like the silence our crowd, which we call the
Speaker 4: bee semi faithful. We'd do it for a reason because
Speaker 4: they no matter what, like their answers, they know what's
Speaker 4: going on with our company.
Speaker 1: They make noise, they judge or really like they they
Speaker 1: they they life starts wherever they want to.
Speaker 4: Immediately we know like oh they like this person, oh
Speaker 4: maybe they don't like this person so much, like oh
Speaker 4: this person needs a little work. And you know, we
Speaker 4: we get to you know, we get we can gage
Speaker 4: the barometer even quick start at the Grand Rumble we
Speaker 4: haven't had. We had some surprises and a gentleman who
Speaker 4: hasn't been with us for more than a few years
Speaker 4: se I required height Andrews. You know he was you know,
Speaker 4: he was like, oh, He's like, oh you know what
Speaker 4: what every way I can do it a quick spot
Speaker 4: in the rumble because you know, because he was dedicated
Speaker 4: to my mom. And I said, you know what, I
Speaker 4: cos we can get you. And he's like, oh, but
Speaker 4: now he's gonna remember me. I'm like, bro our crowd remembers, no, no,
Speaker 4: they're not. He comes out, he gets a great pop
Speaker 4: because back he's like, Joe, you're right, they remember and
Speaker 4: I'm like I told you are crowd remembers is what
Speaker 4: we do so and I'm I'm proud of that fast.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tank all the Batim fans who show up.
Speaker 4: They watch us on Socials and whatever you find us
Speaker 4: on YouTube title Match.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you can.
Speaker 4: Make us, please come live to Richueld Park this Sunday
Speaker 4: or follow you know, watch live on title Match.
Speaker 1: And you know, for myself, thank thank you all for
Speaker 1: all the support given me for the past twenty three
Speaker 1: twenty four years.
Speaker 2: I know I still with the close up, but if
Speaker 2: you have time, you can stay a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, sure, yeah, if you have anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just hit me right. I'm surpride of my axes.
Speaker 3: But so you're so so so do you still follow
Speaker 3: like like like Main Street Wrestling, like w W and
Speaker 3: a w on.
Speaker 1: That aw I mean WWE. I follow a lot. Aw
Speaker 1: I I know what's going on. I haven't watched many
Speaker 1: of the shows lately, but I do. I do follow
Speaker 1: what I see the clips. I see what I see
Speaker 1: what everyone's talking about.
Speaker 2: So I kind of know they had a people fan
Speaker 2: of people last night, right, which I don't know. Lie
Speaker 2: I think stunk.
Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, unless you see a W is
Speaker 4: kind of tough because it's either you have to die
Speaker 4: hard AW fans who are saying it's the best thing
Speaker 4: since sliced bread, or you have the people w E
Speaker 4: people who hate anything AW does.
Speaker 1: So there's no in the middle. I noticed when.
Speaker 3: I feel like there is, I feel like, yeah, like
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, like you know, I I said
Speaker 3: it's stunk, but like I don't, I'm not buys eight.
Speaker 3: I don't dislike a W. I wanted, I wanted to
Speaker 3: be good. I would like it was good. Yeah, Obamaga
Speaker 3: lies and call shit shits.
Speaker 4: I'm say, you know, yeah, that's what I tell people
Speaker 4: about it, sort because I know a lot of people
Speaker 4: work there and there are highlights, Like I'm a big
Speaker 4: fan of Tony Storms.
Speaker 1: She's been doing great work there.
Speaker 4: Yeah her Uh, Harley Cameron has been really entertaining as
Speaker 4: of Like she's been a highlight of AW programming.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I feel like she would be best student in W
Speaker 3: be like because that's the kind of like the styles
Speaker 3: person entertainment, like the whole she's so she's so talented
Speaker 3: and music she so Yeah, in the n X t
Speaker 3: that's a good comedy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well she needed because I think too well, she's neuter, like,
Speaker 4: she hasn't been in the ring that long, so a
Speaker 4: W might be the best place for her right now,
Speaker 4: and so hopefully we'll see her get an nxt W run.
Speaker 1: In the future.
Speaker 2: Did you did you check out Elimination Chamber from the
Speaker 2: tweks ago?
Speaker 1: That was?
Speaker 4: That was a great show. That was fantastic. I enjoyed
Speaker 4: majority had that. The scene that the scene that's current
Speaker 4: was that was that was that, that was that was
Speaker 4: I was not expecting that. I know a lot of
Speaker 4: people were like, oh yeah, they were, they were seeing
Speaker 4: Cody versus see that, But I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 4: to see scene that. After that, I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 4: call my interests your good job.
Speaker 1: Now I want to see versus. Yeah.
Speaker 2: One when Sino won the Chamber, I kind of grown
Speaker 2: cause I love seeing it.
Speaker 4: I love Cody, but yeah, and like we don't need
Speaker 4: that a Mania, like any match for see as the
Speaker 4: main event, but.
Speaker 1: Not like all right, you guys got me, all right,
Speaker 1: kudos to w W. A match I didn't want to
Speaker 1: see in Mania.
Speaker 2: I would still rather punkin Cody, but this but he'll
Speaker 2: see it in Cody's fine too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's definitely yeah, because not one. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm dying for I'm dying for him now to come
Speaker 4: out and discuss what happened. I'm like, gosh, okay, this
Speaker 4: is gonna be some good storytelling. I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So all right, cool, cool, cool, stay tune
Speaker 2: for that. Are our rope on on the on w
Speaker 2: w stra dot com. I'm gonna I'm gonna put this
Speaker 2: video up in a few minutes after a fresh recording.
Speaker 3: It should be up on you know YouTube, Apple Blueberry
Speaker 3: or the Berries Root. You can hear podcast on what else?
Speaker 2: What else? What else.
Speaker 3: I'm also trying out Twitch, so maybody just subscribe real
Speaker 3: quick to Twitch feed this that third I'm saying to
Speaker 3: put me on Twitch that we can stike that that
Speaker 3: put me on Twitch, I can stay on Twitch. I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like the cool kids are into so I.
Speaker 1: Tried a couple of years ago. Wasn't for me, So
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not too much with the cool.
Speaker 3: Kid So check that out real quick. Yeah, and with that,
Speaker 3: I think that's everything. There's a say I stay too
Speaker 3: for tomorrow. I believe if you check the calendar at
Speaker 3: the itinerary on W I can't just see what time
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: I don't remember right now I thought I knew. But
Speaker 2: again I'm sorry for that again.
Speaker 1: Oh good, oh good, oh good, stuff happens. We're here now,
Speaker 1: we're doing it.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, check I think I think six thirty,
Speaker 3: he said. If it's not six thirty, just check out
Speaker 3: the calendar if I'm making a mistake. But uh, sixth
Speaker 3: story I have Sewan don have been on for an
Speaker 3: interview that stad. He will talk a lot, so they
Speaker 3: they go for that.
Speaker 2: What else? What else? What else? Oh until that?
Speaker 3: So until then, right, stay safe, stay out trouble. When
Speaker 3: I'll see back here at a special start time, a
Speaker 3: special start especially day. I don't use a record as
Speaker 3: tomorrow six start pim Strand time. But yeah, until then,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna head out because I have things to do
Speaker 3: and uh ie talking to you man talking few minutes,
Speaker 3: all right, all right, definitely bet