Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven ninety Holy.
Speaker 2: Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we.
Speaker 1: Are get off our show, idiot.
Speaker 2: The kids are crying or trail off crying. The countries
Speaker 2: are screwing it up.
Speaker 1: Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inn Murals.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 2: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Here's nick coffee?
Speaker 2: All right? Happy hump day, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome in.
Speaker 2: I'm now hearing my voice for the first time today
Speaker 2: in these headphones. And these are, by the way, earbuds,
Speaker 2: not not headphones, which is what I prefer. And I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm doing a radio show that's not a
Speaker 2: talk show. I feel like I'm in between playing smooth jazz.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it sound like you know, does my voice sound
Speaker 2: deeper than usual? This kind of works? Actually? Yeah? Explaining
Speaker 2: about it, yeah, like maybe, I mean, it's hump day,
Speaker 2: let's let's have some fun. I mean, who knows where
Speaker 2: we're going to go the next three hours. I do
Speaker 2: have a plan, believe it or not. I do prepare
Speaker 2: for this show. We're gonna have some fun. But yes,
Speaker 2: I mean I just tweeted this out. I amazed myself sometimes, Austin,
Speaker 2: because I'm still sick. I'm not well. My eyes are
Speaker 2: watery as if I've been crying all day, haven't cried
Speaker 2: any I'm congested. You can tell the voice is not
Speaker 2: at one hundred percent, but yet I'm still here. That's right.
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes I amazed myself with just my love
Speaker 2: of the game. You know what I mean, you know
Speaker 2: who you sound like to me?
Speaker 3: Would I kind of get the vibe from when I
Speaker 3: hear you if I were just close my eyes very white, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: emphasis on the white.
Speaker 2: You know what you've seen Joe Dirt right, of course.
Speaker 2: The radio what's it? Dennis Miller?
Speaker 3: Dennis Miller, Yeah, he's where he's that he tells the
Speaker 3: whole story on his radio show. And if I can
Speaker 3: close my eyes, I can kind of imagine that that
Speaker 3: is I hope that's a compliment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a really good example of radio in
Speaker 2: a movie that that really, I think does give you
Speaker 2: a glimpse of what radio can do. As far as
Speaker 2: people just being so captivated by Joe Dirt story exactly.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of the many reasons, one of
Speaker 3: the main reasons I fell in love with radio as
Speaker 3: like a kid, I'm like, wow, oh man, there's something
Speaker 3: about that that just seems so chill. Everyone's listening and
Speaker 3: you just never know who you can just pop about
Speaker 3: it nowhere and you can just tell a story about it.
Speaker 2: And I know we have people that listen on podcast
Speaker 2: every day and we certainly appreciate that. But there's also
Speaker 2: something about the live part of it to where you know,
Speaker 2: even if you know you can get it later, if
Speaker 2: it's something that keeps you interested and you're you're into it,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be I mean, there's clearly, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say there's an incentive to get it live,
Speaker 2: but it is just a different experience. And yes I'm biased,
Speaker 2: but radio, live talk radio, when it comes to storytelling
Speaker 2: and just you know, keeping people interested, it's I mean, clearly,
Speaker 2: I love it. That's what I do. It's all I
Speaker 2: know how to do at this point in my life.
Speaker 2: But yes, that's if somebody asked me to think of
Speaker 2: movies or television shows that have the radio component in
Speaker 2: it as far as like kind of what we do,
Speaker 2: and that's more of a I think that's music station.
Speaker 2: But either way, and by the way, that used to
Speaker 2: be a thing. There used to be people who would
Speaker 2: talk a lot on FM music stations. Now that's kind
Speaker 2: of changed. It's just not the wall podcast now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind of not the way that it was anymore.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a little bit of a Howard Stern feel,
Speaker 2: which I didn't know at the time that I mean
Speaker 2: that I would ever want to do radio, But I
Speaker 2: remember Howard Stern, I mean, and it was on e television,
Speaker 2: like his radio show was. I mean, I don't even
Speaker 2: I was a kid, so I doubt it was live,
Speaker 2: but I remember Howard Stern show. You know, they would
Speaker 2: talk about things that I knew I wasn't supposed to
Speaker 2: be listening to at that young age. But because it
Speaker 2: was on television, they weren't going to really show something
Speaker 2: that would be like, you know, X rated or even
Speaker 2: R rated. I don't think so. I remember that being
Speaker 2: one of those things that I kind of like would
Speaker 2: hope that my parents wouldn't walk in on me while
Speaker 2: I'm watching it, because they would probably they probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: see anything right away. But they knew what Howard Stern
Speaker 2: was right, and they would think to themselves, wait a second,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be watching this, But I just guts that
Speaker 2: girl sitting on the speaker. Yeah, I just got hooked
Speaker 2: on it. And then, of course, you know, later on
Speaker 2: developed the love for radio. And I am not sure
Speaker 2: there is anybody better at it than the one and
Speaker 2: only Howard Stern. I don't I haven't listened to much
Speaker 2: of anything he's done recently in recent years, but as
Speaker 2: far as just a show entertainment, characters within the show
Speaker 2: good stuff.
Speaker 3: So I would say that's like what the example of,
Speaker 3: like crash radio is kind of in your face, off
Speaker 3: the wall, like left back and forth, left or right,
Speaker 3: like you don't know which direction you're going in that
Speaker 3: sort of show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is very MTV and we'll get the
Speaker 2: we'll get the party started here soon. But that is
Speaker 2: one of the things that I that I'm bummed about
Speaker 2: as far as currently like, radio is still a very
Speaker 2: very popular thing, believe it or not, despite what people
Speaker 2: tell you, more people listen now than ever because of
Speaker 2: the different ways that you can in fact listen, and
Speaker 2: people still listen in their car especially to the talk format,
Speaker 2: considering that that's you know, that that's something that is
Speaker 2: still very much popular when it comes to that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. So anyways, what I'm getting at those if
Speaker 2: you really tried to like go deep into a bit
Speaker 2: when it comes to radio, you really tried to do
Speaker 2: something something cool, something different, something unexpected, and bit's probably
Speaker 2: not even it can be a bit, but I mean
Speaker 2: something like you know, like a project or you know,
Speaker 2: just different things you could do within your show that
Speaker 2: you build up for. I mean, I feel like now
Speaker 2: you would just be kind of like mocked for trying
Speaker 2: to do something like that by certain people. But anyways,
Speaker 2: I love radio and it's an honor to be able
Speaker 2: to do this every single day, and who knows, maybe
Speaker 2: today's my last day. I hope not. But Benetti told
Speaker 2: me that many years ago, and it hit me, hit
Speaker 2: me to my core. And I'm sure I've not reminded
Speaker 2: myself of this every day, but it does come to
Speaker 2: mind every now and then, and it keeps me hungry,
Speaker 2: keeps me in the moment, enjoying it because you really
Speaker 2: never know when it's going to be your time. I
Speaker 2: mean sure, and it's unfortunately one of the industries where
Speaker 2: you can get the call, you can get the you
Speaker 2: can you know, you can get notified that it's over.
Speaker 2: And quite literally, it not be anybody who you work
Speaker 2: with it made the decision. And it could not be
Speaker 2: because they have found that you did anything wrong. I mean,
Speaker 2: it could be, and you could you could even be
Speaker 2: somebody that is like a big revenue producer for said company.
Speaker 2: But if they make if they just decide to mix
Speaker 2: it up. And because obviously if you bring in more
Speaker 2: money than you're getting, you're getting certain cuts of it,
Speaker 2: and they can just decide to restructure. So it's part
Speaker 2: of the business. It's it's how it works. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to enjoy every second of it. And we've got
Speaker 2: roughly three hours with you today and we're going to
Speaker 2: make the most of it.
Speaker 3: Well, how you feeling today, I mean it's like the
Speaker 3: whole body feel good. Are you feeling remnants of your
Speaker 3: whatever you had the last couple of days.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be honest with you, I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like in the last twenty four hours,
Speaker 2: I've felt a little worse as far as just feeling
Speaker 2: kind of ick. But I'm on the meds and I
Speaker 2: don't know what the meds are specifically. I mean, I can,
Speaker 2: I can pull it out of my bag and see
Speaker 2: what it is. They got me taken, but probably got
Speaker 2: three or four, so little old kind of feel like
Speaker 2: it is a drug. Sure, I don't really know what
Speaker 2: they you know, I don't. I mean, it kind of
Speaker 2: reminded me of my kids when I give them like
Speaker 2: children's tile and all. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 2: but they'll get all slap happy, like it's almost like
Speaker 2: they're on something. I kind of feel like that because
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm good, but my
Speaker 2: voice is not great and I'm real, I'm I'm kind
Speaker 2: of weak. I haven't really done much of anything today,
Speaker 2: which I guess was kind of how yesterday was, So
Speaker 2: I guess to answer your question, I'm probably a little
Speaker 2: bit more. I'm probably the same as I was yesterday.
Speaker 2: But the voice, despite not doing any talking until today,
Speaker 2: it's it's fading a little bit. So I'm gonna try
Speaker 2: to keep it within a certain range throughout the show,
Speaker 2: not get too high, not get too low, just kind
Speaker 2: of keep it in, you know, keep it on cruise control.
Speaker 2: You can get too high.
Speaker 3: And you kind of you might you actually just might
Speaker 3: like break the matrix of your voice and at some
Speaker 3: point like revert back to your normal voice, almost as
Speaker 3: if nothing happened.
Speaker 2: There were a couple of times yesterday where I felt
Speaker 2: myself sounding like Mickey Mouse because I was just trying
Speaker 2: to emphasize something and I went a little too high
Speaker 2: and it didn't it didn't sound great. But look, I'll
Speaker 2: I know you guys are thinking, Man, this guy must
Speaker 2: love radio because he's he's sick, and here he is again,
Speaker 2: working his tail off for for for the for the
Speaker 2: love of the game. When I say the game, I
Speaker 2: mean I mean radio dashing through the snow like Santa Claus. Oh,
Speaker 2: the weather is terrible out there too. It's cold as
Speaker 2: can be. We got more snow, but yet I'm here
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And I hope you guys can pick up
Speaker 2: on us like the only people in the office too.
Speaker 3: Yesterday, I remember everyone was here when he came to
Speaker 3: There are people hanging from the ceilings putting in thermostats.
Speaker 2: Now no one's here. It's a ghost town. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I kind of like it that way. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: And I like the people that I work with but
Speaker 2: there's something about something about being here when whenever it's
Speaker 2: kind of empty. I don't know why that that's more
Speaker 2: and to me. But you know, people called being an introvert.
Speaker 2: I guess you know people call that studio.
Speaker 3: It is something I meant to tell you yesterday when
Speaker 3: we were talking about it, because sometimes me and you,
Speaker 3: you and I like to borrow ourselves.
Speaker 2: Back there and we keep it and we keep the lights.
Speaker 3: Off absolutely, And I'll never forget one of the first
Speaker 3: things you ever told me in radio was I'm a
Speaker 3: maniac and I like to keep it dark.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when you still remember that when it was
Speaker 2: in mornings.
Speaker 3: But at any time I tell someone that I'm going
Speaker 3: to go back there in the morning.
Speaker 2: There. Oh, you talked about Nick's studio. It's referred to
Speaker 2: as Nix style that I mean, I guess I've I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, I've probably done more shows in this studio
Speaker 2: than anybody's done in any of the studios here, just
Speaker 2: because of postgame stuff. Right, Like you know, there's throughout
Speaker 2: a good chunk of the of the year we're doing well,
Speaker 2: not as much for basketball this year, so I guess
Speaker 2: I have just kind of made it my home, and
Speaker 2: you know, I'm honored that I Studio B. They're giving
Speaker 2: it to me. I'll take it. That's right, I'll take it,
Speaker 2: all right. So I wanted to start with just some
Speaker 2: obser from college hoops last night, because, as I've told
Speaker 2: you guys for a couple of weeks now, we are
Speaker 2: rounding out the regular season. March madness will be here soon,
Speaker 2: and I'm excited for it, especially knowing that I've got
Speaker 2: a team that is alive, that certainly looks like a
Speaker 2: tournament team, and who knows, maybe they finish better than expected,
Speaker 2: which I don't know. I lied to you because I
Speaker 2: was going to say finished better than expected. I expect
Speaker 2: them to go undefeated the rest of the way, and
Speaker 2: I don't think that's like asking too much. I think
Speaker 2: they've shown and kind of proven really that they are capable,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they'd have a problem being held
Speaker 2: to that standard of beating the teams that are left
Speaker 2: on the schedule. They're going to take you one game
Speaker 2: at a time because that's what they do, that's what
Speaker 2: they should do. But when it comes to just, you know,
Speaker 2: this team being able to improve their situation for the
Speaker 2: selection committee, I really think it's going to come down
Speaker 2: to if they can get themselves there in the Semis
Speaker 2: with a chance to play Clemson, and if they can
Speaker 2: win that one and then get duked, then potentially they
Speaker 2: could they can improve their situation. So anyways, I can't
Speaker 2: wait for March madness, can't wait for the conference tournaments.
Speaker 2: But you know, the regular season is also a lot
Speaker 2: of fun, and the fact that we only have five
Speaker 2: games left it makes me sad, especially knowing that we
Speaker 2: didn't even get a weekday game this week for Louisville.
Speaker 2: We don't get to see them in action again until
Speaker 2: Saturday when they host Florida State. But last night I
Speaker 2: was watching back and forth between a lot of the
Speaker 2: games that were on last night and the one that
Speaker 2: clearly is getting talked about more than anything is Kansas.
Speaker 2: So Kansas last night got completely dominated at BYU, a
Speaker 2: game where they could have easily lost about forty points.
Speaker 2: In fact, last night it's the worst loss for Kansas
Speaker 2: and the history of their program as a ranked team
Speaker 2: when they played an unranked team. BYU is the only
Speaker 2: team in the last seven seasons to lead Kansas by
Speaker 2: more than thirty five And I'm just reading here from
Speaker 2: ESPN Stats and Info. But this is Kansas's second Big
Speaker 2: twelve loss by thirty plus in the bill self are
Speaker 2: you got to keep in mind they entered Saturday morning
Speaker 2: being one of the top four seeds and now they're
Speaker 2: probably looking more so like a six to seven. And
Speaker 2: I still think this Kansas team is going to make
Speaker 2: the tournament. Who knows, maybe they get it rolling, but
Speaker 2: it does really sound like their issues are not at
Speaker 2: all talent or injury or personnel. It's personality, which I
Speaker 2: guess maybe technically that can be personnel, but it's not
Speaker 2: the pieces in what they're capable of as far as
Speaker 2: players and you know their skill sets, their strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 2: It's the personalities. And it certainly seems as if Kansas
Speaker 2: has given us a real reminder that in this new
Speaker 2: world where you have to be able to do it quickly,
Speaker 2: and I mean get a team together quickly. Right, You've
Speaker 2: got like the days of a class coming in as
Speaker 2: four freshmen entering the program, and then they grow over
Speaker 2: time and by the time they're juniors and seniors. Man,
Speaker 2: we got a special group here. That's just not how
Speaker 2: it is anymore so. Being able to find players that
Speaker 2: can not only fit well together on the floor, right,
Speaker 2: and can play well together as far as their skill
Speaker 2: sets really compliment one another. Right, you got a guard
Speaker 2: that's more of a distributor, a guy that can run
Speaker 2: your team, a floor general. And then you got another
Speaker 2: guard who can do a little bit of that, but
Speaker 2: also he's more of a scorer, a shooter, I mean,
Speaker 2: talent and you know, skill set, the pieces they matter,
Speaker 2: but they also have to work well together. They've got
Speaker 2: there's got to be I wouldn't even call it team chemistry.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's technically what it is. But
Speaker 2: a coach has to be able to take a lot
Speaker 2: of different pieces, Guys who don't really know each other,
Speaker 2: Guys who are coming to your program established they got
Speaker 2: a big check. That's probably why they're there at a
Speaker 2: place like Kansas or Louisville or Kentucky. Because that's the
Speaker 2: name of the game now, right. You bring in highly
Speaker 2: regarded freshmen that you think can help you right away.
Speaker 2: And really, I think more than anything, the benefit of
Speaker 2: getting a star freshman is gonna be because if they're
Speaker 2: one and donees even if they weren't your leading scorer,
Speaker 2: but they were a part of your team in some
Speaker 2: way and they were successful. The more guys you put
Speaker 2: in the NBA that are one and done type players,
Speaker 2: the more likely you're gonna get other guys in the
Speaker 2: same situation to come and play for you. And that's
Speaker 2: just good for your brand. And of course you know
Speaker 2: it's good to have NBA representation, and also it's good
Speaker 2: to have young talent, so you know you're gonna still
Speaker 2: see that, but not as it's not gonna be as
Speaker 2: emphesized as much as it used to be. You're gonna
Speaker 2: want to retain players that you know have proven they're
Speaker 2: good enough to play for your program. Therefore, they know
Speaker 2: they're gonna need money. They know that if you don't
Speaker 2: give them money, they're gonna get it elsewhere, so you've
Speaker 2: got to make sure you pay them. But then you
Speaker 2: also are going to go out and build the rest
Speaker 2: of your roster with pieces that are available in the
Speaker 2: portal that can help you. And clearly you're always going
Speaker 2: to want to find guys that you know can play
Speaker 2: lay to your standard, that fit what you want to do.
Speaker 2: But one of the hardest things I would think is
Speaker 2: also going to be one of the most important things
Speaker 2: moving forward. Sorry, sorry, I had to get that cough
Speaker 2: out of the way. Next time you got to jump
Speaker 2: in and just saying to sing a song or something, well,
Speaker 2: I really die, not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: That cough kind of looked satisfying once I once it
Speaker 3: looked like you finally got it all out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's all out yet. Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: be ready to jump back in. Man. As soon as
Speaker 2: I turned the microphone on to stop coughing in your ear,
Speaker 2: then it just comes back so like, so apologies and
Speaker 2: that hasn't happened at all today. But you know, this
Speaker 2: is the first time I've been talking non stop for
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, So hang on a second.
Speaker 3: That's what we got. When we have a flu season
Speaker 3: coming around, bird flu. I think that I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's what's causing everything. I know that's causing egg shortages.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's causing the rough patch with
Speaker 3: Nick's voice.
Speaker 2: All right, but I think we're good. Appreciate you feeling,
Speaker 2: and that's tough to just have your tap dancing out
Speaker 2: there on the fly. Whenever my voice just tat which
Speaker 2: the voice was there, it's now the voice is high.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening. I don't know what's.
Speaker 3: Going on here telling you at some point during today,
Speaker 3: it's just going to break in and you're going to
Speaker 3: be it's just going to be like a normal voice.
Speaker 2: Maybe I think I got a little too I started
Speaker 2: talking a little, I started projecting more than I need
Speaker 2: to with the voice being what it is today. So
Speaker 2: apologies there, and I feel like I was in a
Speaker 2: really good spot as far as how I was positioning
Speaker 2: my point and I'll get us back on the road
Speaker 2: here and finish where I was going, which was I
Speaker 2: think one of the most important things is going to
Speaker 2: be one of the more difficult things, which is figuring
Speaker 2: out how you can make it work with different egos.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily about what these guys can do. It's
Speaker 2: about can they play well together? And you don't know
Speaker 2: that until until you're here, until you've you've had them
Speaker 2: for a few months and you're in the midst of
Speaker 2: a season, like you can't there's no And you can
Speaker 2: do some some digging. You can talk to their coach,
Speaker 2: you can talk to their AAU coach like you can,
Speaker 2: you can do some vetting, but you really don't know
Speaker 2: until all these different pieces from different programs are together
Speaker 2: if it's gonna work. So here's here's what has stood
Speaker 2: out to me is that Bill Self a guy who
Speaker 2: is clearly one of the best in the game. I
Speaker 2: don't think Bill Self like is a guy that I
Speaker 2: think like, And clearly since we've since we've really kind
Speaker 2: of gotten into this new world, things haven't been great
Speaker 2: for Bill Self. They now have. I think it's two
Speaker 2: straight seasons with seven or more losses in league play.
Speaker 2: He'd never had Kansas more than six losses in Big
Speaker 2: twelve play ever until I think the last two years.
Speaker 2: So that's not good. But I still think he's a
Speaker 2: very good coach. But I think what he's run into
Speaker 2: is that he can't figure out how to get these
Speaker 2: guys to get along and play well together. He said
Speaker 2: as much last night that they all need to get
Speaker 2: away from each other. He thought that when they traveled
Speaker 2: for these two games in Utah BYU and Utah, that
Speaker 2: it would be a good I guess team bonding thing.
Speaker 2: But it's not working, and some guys are giving him
Speaker 2: a pass, like Goodman who loves Bill Self. I mean
Speaker 2: he's I shouldn't say that because I think Jeff's been,
Speaker 2: you know, somewhat critical, but either way, it's on Bill's
Speaker 2: self to figure it out. He's got to figure it out.
Speaker 2: So I'll bring all this up to say that I
Speaker 2: really do believe and we'll look at this on the
Speaker 2: other side. If you look at the teams that have
Speaker 2: had the best portal classes as far as currently playing
Speaker 2: right now, right the teams that were believed to have
Speaker 2: built their rosters the best from the portal heading into
Speaker 2: this current season, there's some that are I think exceeding expectations.
Speaker 2: There's some that are not even close to what people
Speaker 2: expected him to be. And I just think coaches are
Speaker 2: learning in this new world as well that I don't
Speaker 2: just need to go ahead and get a guy who
Speaker 2: I know can give me fifteen and ten. I need
Speaker 2: to get a guy that can give me something close
Speaker 2: to that, but also is a good teammate. He's going
Speaker 2: to buy in, all right. I got to fix my voice.
Speaker 3: As Nick's over there cough and his lungs out, we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about that.
Speaker 2: That was me sending it to break. Oh oh, I
Speaker 2: didn't know that.
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Speaker 2: My voice doesn't get better. You may us have to
Speaker 2: play music today on the show. I could do that.
Speaker 2: I've got to press a button. I've got a lozenge,
Speaker 2: so hopefully, yes, that can't hurt right, Well, halls, No,
Speaker 2: that was I mean, it's probably karma because I mean
Speaker 2: I thought i'd be able to just kind of you know,
Speaker 2: not project and be able to get through, but have
Speaker 2: one of those coughing spells, which wasn't fun and you know,
Speaker 2: not good for somebody who is supposed to speak until
Speaker 2: six o'clock on this show. So anyways, it's coffee and company.
Speaker 2: We are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven
Speaker 2: ninety and see that's where like I say that more
Speaker 2: than anything throughout the day on the show, because you know,
Speaker 2: it's so I really emphasize that. Usually I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 2: I yell, but there's a little there's a little something
Speaker 2: on it when I say it. But now I can't
Speaker 2: because I know if I do, it'll it'll be bad news.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it'll trigger another coughing spell when.
Speaker 2: You hear me reset and let you know where we are.
Speaker 2: Just know I'm as excited as I usually am. I
Speaker 2: just can't really express it because if so, then again
Speaker 2: Austin's just gonna have to play music because my voice
Speaker 2: will will fade me. But thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. I'm not even gonna do it. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna I'm just gonna talk because if I start
Speaker 2: to do what I typically do as far as you know,
Speaker 2: the things you're required to do, let people know where
Speaker 2: they're listening, how they can still listen, that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: it's just gonna I'm gonna feel flat. Right So now
Speaker 2: I'm in my own head. It's weird. But one thing
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about yesterday that I mean, it's probably
Speaker 2: one of the most talked about things on the planet
Speaker 2: right now, and that's what's going on with all of
Speaker 2: these plane crashes. Have you seen some of the videos. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not that it's being ignored, clearly, it's
Speaker 2: being talked about. As I just mentioned, it's probably up
Speaker 2: there as far as one of the most talked about
Speaker 2: things in the country right now, maybe the world. But
Speaker 2: how did we go from having years and I mean
Speaker 2: years without anything like that when it comes to domestic
Speaker 2: flights in the United States to now. I feel like
Speaker 2: every couple of days there's a new one.
Speaker 3: There's something going on. I don't know something, something's in
Speaker 3: the air and it's not plane.
Speaker 2: And then you see that one of the air lines,
Speaker 2: it might be Southwest they have they're getting rid of,
Speaker 2: like twelve hundred employees or something, which I didn't immediately
Speaker 2: hear that and think, well, probably not a good time
Speaker 2: to do that because they need the employees to figure
Speaker 2: out what's going on. But still like just weird timing overall.
Speaker 2: And my wife has been all over me about getting
Speaker 2: my vacation days put in here at work, so you know,
Speaker 2: I don't procrastinate, and we've got some time. I'm not
Speaker 2: going anywhere anytime soon, but I usually take nearly every
Speaker 2: bit of my vacation whenever we're not in basketball or
Speaker 2: football season. So really post Derby, I usually get about
Speaker 2: three trips in and we fly. But I'm telling I'm
Speaker 2: telling the wife, get those Greyhound passes, honey. They still
Speaker 2: have though we're a Greyhound family. This summer, I'm not
Speaker 2: getting on a damn plane. You see what's going on
Speaker 2: out there, That's my thing.
Speaker 3: I want to say. One of my first ways to
Speaker 3: travel was a Greyhound. I've made the trip from Tucson, Arizona,
Speaker 3: to Hear and back at least two or three different
Speaker 3: times on a greyhound bus.
Speaker 2: That builds character. Absolutely. I've never been on a Greyhound,
Speaker 2: but I'm all in on Greyhound right now. Give me
Speaker 2: the endorsement. Let I'll start, I'll start pimping Greyhound because
Speaker 2: I'm not getting on a plane. Man.
Speaker 3: I think that there's, like I want to say, somewhere
Speaker 3: downtown there might be a technical Greyhound station. It used
Speaker 3: to be like an actual big hub, and from what
Speaker 3: I can remember, I.
Speaker 2: Think they moved it. I know, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like I just saw the logo. There's still
Speaker 2: one in Louisville. I just don't think it's where. And
Speaker 2: maybe you know you're younger than me, but there was
Speaker 2: one that used to be kind of a I think
Speaker 2: it was one of the bigger Greyhound like hubs, not
Speaker 2: just around here, I mean like in the region, and
Speaker 2: it's not that anymore, I don't think. But yeah, greyhound
Speaker 2: is still absolutely a thing. Mm hmm. I just I
Speaker 2: don't I've never I mean, I'm not afraid of flying,
Speaker 2: you know, to where, like I never, Like there's some
Speaker 2: people I know that have only flown maybe once or
Speaker 2: twice in their life, terrified of it. Yeah, and they
Speaker 2: did it, they survived, but there's still skin. We'll do
Speaker 2: anything they can and not do it. I'm not there.
Speaker 2: That's why I was, man, I'm close. That's what I
Speaker 2: was about to ask.
Speaker 3: Because I had cousins that came here from or I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I came here when I still lived back in Arizona.
Speaker 3: This is twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, and it was their
Speaker 3: first time ever flying, and they came to visit us
Speaker 3: in Arizona, and it's about a couple months before I
Speaker 3: moved back, and I actually just ended up catching a
Speaker 3: ride with them on the way back, just getting a
Speaker 3: kickstart on, you know, my life. But they absolutely hated it.
Speaker 3: They caught one batch of turbulence and they said never again.
Speaker 3: When we picked them up from the gate, like they
Speaker 3: had this thing where you can see the people that
Speaker 3: are coming out from the gates like a welcome home,
Speaker 3: and was like a cam feed from right before they
Speaker 3: got to the escalator to come back down to you.
Speaker 3: And there was no like hey, or excitement or anything.
Speaker 3: It was just pure terror. On their face. I think
Speaker 3: they just gave us a hug and said, let's just
Speaker 3: go to a rental car place. We are not doing
Speaker 3: that again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel very fortunate when it comes
Speaker 2: to lying in any way, because I've never I've never
Speaker 2: had a bad I mean, I'm the worst experience I've had.
Speaker 2: I missed my flight once. That was my fault. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it will. It wasn't really actually wasn't my fault.
Speaker 2: It was more so because we got we got delayed
Speaker 2: and had we just barely missed it, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: It wasn't a big deal. We ended up getting a
Speaker 2: flight like two hours later and it was fine. And
Speaker 2: then I had I got on a plane once and
Speaker 2: then had to get off the plane after we sat
Speaker 2: there for like an hour. That sucked, But again I
Speaker 2: knew other people have had way worse experiences. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I consider myself pretty lucky. And when it comes to
Speaker 2: bad like rough flights. There was one flight when we
Speaker 2: were coming back from Mexico. It might have been from
Speaker 2: our honeymoon, but we were in Dallas coming back to Louisville,
Speaker 2: and we hit a rough stretch that the roughest stretch
Speaker 2: i've ever I've ever experienced on a plane. But I
Speaker 2: looked around and I realized nobody else was really bothered
Speaker 2: by it, right, the employees weren't, So therefore I realized,
Speaker 2: that's probably not that crazy. So therefore, again I just
Speaker 2: consider myself lucky.
Speaker 3: But that's exactly how I judge it when I'm in
Speaker 3: the air If if if the stewardess starts kind of
Speaker 3: freaking out, then I'll start freaking out. But if they
Speaker 3: just it's it's just normal, everyday thing for them, then
Speaker 3: that usually doesn't do much to me. I always remember
Speaker 3: when we flew back home for the summer. My mom
Speaker 3: has always been terrified of flying, and she would always
Speaker 3: had to take a always had to take a valume
Speaker 3: before we got on the flights. Shit, whatever, it helps
Speaker 3: massed out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've I've I've had many flights where I
Speaker 2: didn't have any anything to drink, because you know, it's
Speaker 2: five o'clock in the morning sometimes, but if the bar
Speaker 2: was open at the airport, I would get a drink
Speaker 2: just because it had come on nerves a little bit
Speaker 2: in And I don't see any beer ever topping the
Speaker 2: airport beer. As far as my annual beer rankings list.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean whatever whatever comes and nerves a
Speaker 2: little bit that that that's crucial for me. But I've
Speaker 2: always liked flying. I don't know what it was. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 2: I I like everything about it other than you know,
Speaker 2: the slight fear whenever I'm up in the air. Sure
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 3: I guess I've alleviated it from my mind. If something
Speaker 3: happens when I'm up there, I mean, what can I do? Yeah,
Speaker 3: just what are you gonna?
Speaker 2: Well, So the most recent plane crash where nobody was
Speaker 2: really hurt at all, let alone dead, which is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: If you see the plane crash from you know, from
Speaker 2: from the outside, I mean that it's amazing. I mean
Speaker 2: it's it's unbelievable that nobody was hurt. But to then
Speaker 2: see the video of the people as it happens and
Speaker 2: then them getting out, I kind of feel like I would.
Speaker 2: And again, if somebody's gonna we live in a world
Speaker 2: now where somebody's gonna get their phone out and video it.
Speaker 2: I mean, even though they may that maybe the last
Speaker 2: thing they do, they just want to, you know, they
Speaker 2: want to get it for the gram. I guess of course.
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised that the footage has is out
Speaker 2: there and it's gone crazy viral. That's just where we
Speaker 2: are in society too. I'm not even really complaining, it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, I think seeing that scared me about flying
Speaker 2: more than if I hadn't seen that, If that makes sense, sure,
Speaker 2: just because it's so real, like, yeah, I've been on
Speaker 2: a plane just like that. I I mean, I would
Speaker 2: be I would be scared to death. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: I'll fly again before too long and everything be okay.
Speaker 2: But this is the time where they really do need
Speaker 2: to emphasize to folks, despite all this that's happened in
Speaker 2: the last couple of months, just awful. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: really I mean, I haven't looked into it enough to
Speaker 2: know exactly what's caused it specifically, but either way, they
Speaker 2: should never stop reminding us that flying is actually still
Speaker 2: one of the safest ways you can travel to go anywhere, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's hard to keep that in mind
Speaker 2: whenever you know you're in the air and you see
Speaker 2: the recent things that have happened in the last few months,
Speaker 2: but still you have a much better chance of getting
Speaker 2: in an accident and potentially dying every day when you
Speaker 2: get in a car than you do when you get
Speaker 2: on a plane. Now, again, that probably didn't make you
Speaker 2: feel much better, but it's just I like being reminded
Speaker 2: of that, because if I'm not reminded of that, then
Speaker 2: then I get to worrying more than I should. And
Speaker 2: that's my biggest, one of my biggest issues. And I
Speaker 2: feel like if I would have if I was going
Speaker 2: to correct it at some point, I probably would have
Speaker 2: already done it. I worry way more than I should
Speaker 2: about things.
Speaker 3: What's what's the longest flight you've ever been on? Have
Speaker 3: you ever had to go like across seas? I know
Speaker 3: you've been to like Mexico and stuff like that. Have
Speaker 3: you ever had an eight hour flight to like Europe?
Speaker 3: Have you ever done anything like that actually overseas something
Speaker 3: like that. I feel like that would terrify me. I
Speaker 3: don't like being up there more than maybe about four hours.
Speaker 3: I think the most I've been on was like a
Speaker 3: straight shot from here to Vegas. That's about a four
Speaker 3: or five hour flight, I think. And it's not that
Speaker 3: I'm I just don't like being cooped up in something
Speaker 3: small that long because I'm a big guy, got these
Speaker 3: long dancer's legs. I need to be able to like
Speaker 3: stand up, stretch or move. It's not comfortable, but like
Speaker 3: I could not imagine just while flying for ten hours
Speaker 3: seeing nothing but water because even also domestically, Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I've always flown domestically and they always give you those
Speaker 3: if we happen to land in water, and then you
Speaker 3: can use your seat as like a float and you're
Speaker 3: supposed to take care of yourself before you do, like
Speaker 3: your partner.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 3: If the little mask thingies come down, but something something
Speaker 3: would freak my anxiety out over eight hours and it's
Speaker 3: nothing but water like that terrifies me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I the longest flight I've been on, I had
Speaker 2: a direct from Cincinnati to either Vegas or Phoenix, and
Speaker 2: one of those two is a little bit further than
Speaker 2: the other. And that's the longest, and it was long.
Speaker 2: It was I mean, that's I'm sure before I die,
Speaker 2: I'll probably going a longer flight to somewhere maybe in
Speaker 2: Europe or maybe Hawaii or something. But I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be the one to really, you know, force the issue.
Speaker 2: It'll probably be something to where I get invited to go,
Speaker 2: and I'll just have to suck it up. My mother
Speaker 2: is not real big on flying. I guess that's where
Speaker 2: I get it from. And I think she has always,
Speaker 2: you know, been fearful of flying. But she recently went,
Speaker 2: her and my stepdad went on a trip to Europe
Speaker 2: and that was you know, it's across the pond, as
Speaker 2: they say, right, and we're talking about being in the
Speaker 2: air for you know, basically a work shift eight hours
Speaker 2: rough early. And she did it, and you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think it was fun, but you know, I was
Speaker 2: proud of her, and I'm sure she now is a
Speaker 2: little bit more open to like going on trips like that,
Speaker 2: because I would like to see the world more so
Speaker 2: than you know, what I've seen up to this point.
Speaker 2: And in order to do that, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: suck it up and you know, realize that, hey, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a long, longer flight than what I'm used to.
Speaker 2: Or maybe i could get on a boat, but I'd
Speaker 2: be more fearful of that. Oh you do you know
Speaker 2: about fear of the water. I won't go on cruises.
Speaker 3: I've never been on one, but I'm kind of I'm
Speaker 3: scared of the deep ocean.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's nothing more frightening to me. And I mean
Speaker 2: that if I'm on a boat and I can't see
Speaker 2: water or I can't see land, if I'm looking at
Speaker 2: something in a movie. I mean, movie is different because
Speaker 2: I know it's not real usually, but if I can't
Speaker 2: see anything but water and I see no land, I
Speaker 2: start to like choke. Yeah, I mean it's a it's
Speaker 2: a real. I mean, I got a couple of weird phobias.
Speaker 2: One of them I think I've probably just admitted. But
Speaker 2: there's not much people can do to like freak me
Speaker 2: out right, Like you're not gonna take me. You could,
Speaker 2: you could abduct me and take me to the deep
Speaker 2: sea if you want, but I don't. I would. I
Speaker 2: prefer you not. But there's one other thing that I've
Speaker 2: never told anybody on I've never told it. I've never
Speaker 2: said on the air or anything. I've never clearly I'm
Speaker 2: do it. I don't like to make fun of myself,
Speaker 2: but I know that it would just be an invitation
Speaker 2: for somebody to mess with me, to kind of see
Speaker 2: like is he being serious? Is this really something that
Speaker 2: freaks him out and scares him? And it does so
Speaker 2: much so that like I don't even risk it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, there's very there's a handful of
Speaker 2: people in my life that know what this specific fear
Speaker 2: is that I just and it's more of a phobia
Speaker 2: than it is a fear, Like it's not I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess both are kind of the same. And by
Speaker 2: the way, it's not elevators. I am scared of elevators,
Speaker 2: but I've kind of overcome that. Did you know, do
Speaker 2: you really you know an elevator story. No, No, I
Speaker 2: got stuck in an elevator in Mexico and it's scary.
Speaker 2: Scared the hell out of me. And I did something
Speaker 2: I'm not proud of. I huh No, me and my
Speaker 2: wife got stuck in there and it it got it.
Speaker 2: We were stuck between floors. Oh and I mean we
Speaker 2: were in like a shopping mall in the you know
Speaker 2: if if they even call it the suburbs of like
Speaker 2: can kun to where I mean it was. You actually
Speaker 2: had to pay to go to the bathroom there, like
Speaker 2: that's that's where we were where we were. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: had to pay, like you had to put money into
Speaker 2: this thing to be able to get into the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Did you get the money back like a like an
Speaker 2: all these shopping Oh no, no, they they know they
Speaker 2: charged you to go to the restroom and public there
Speaker 2: for it, because they don't have public restrooms in a
Speaker 2: lot of places there where we were. So anyways, I
Speaker 2: didn't know that, so the elevator gets stuck. To this day,
Speaker 2: I don't know why I was even on the elevator.
Speaker 2: I think I was just too drunk. I mean, and
Speaker 2: I didn't you know, we were just out being tourists
Speaker 2: and whatnot, and the elevator got stuck, and like there's
Speaker 2: no button, Like you know what I'm saying, I have
Speaker 2: no self service. I'm in another country. I guess I
Speaker 2: could have called nine one one, but that probably would
Speaker 2: have been I didn't even I freaked out so much
Speaker 2: so that I didn't even think to do that. That
Speaker 2: would have been ridiculous anyway. But my wife, she's she's
Speaker 2: working to try to calm me down. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't I barely remember it. I'm kind of blocked out,
Speaker 2: like I think, I just I just envisioned me making
Speaker 2: laps in this little elevator, trying to figure out how
Speaker 2: the hell we're going to get out. God, somehow we
Speaker 2: pried the door open just enough to where we could climb.
Speaker 2: I could grab the I could reach up to the
Speaker 2: level that we were slightly under and kind of pull
Speaker 2: myself up. And I did that. Wow, And I ran
Speaker 2: away and left my wife only for like five seconds,
Speaker 2: and then I turned around and realized, uh, oh, because
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not tall, but she's shorter than I am,
Speaker 2: so like she was gonna need some help. And I
Speaker 2: came back, and I remember, like the next day, I
Speaker 2: was like, I realized I kind of ran off and
Speaker 2: left you. Kind of like my George Costanza Seinfeld thing
Speaker 2: where there's a fire at this kid's party and he
Speaker 2: pushes everybody down and runs out of the way. It's
Speaker 2: kind of what I felt like. And she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I totally. I was thinking like maybe she didn't notice it.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not sure if you realize it,
Speaker 2: but I think I kind of ran off and left
Speaker 2: you when that happened. She was like, oh, I noticed
Speaker 2: it for sure. I'm gonna I'm just gonna assume that
Speaker 2: it's because you were that scared. She said, I'll remember
Speaker 2: that next time you're sick. Yes, I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe that's why she's not been not been as
Speaker 2: as you know, supportive I would have expected her to
Speaker 2: be when her man is ill.
Speaker 3: So I've always wondered, like, I mean, so there is
Speaker 3: no button to press. I remember, if if there's anybody
Speaker 3: ever gets stuck in an elevator like that, you press
Speaker 3: the emergency button.
Speaker 2: Like I'm assuming the fire department shows up.
Speaker 3: It's not like if it's broken, it's not like it's
Speaker 3: just gonna restart again.
Speaker 2: Like how do they get you? And I know I've
Speaker 2: seen Final Destination, know how they do it. I know
Speaker 2: they do it here in America. But where I was,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure like what I did is what
Speaker 2: they have to do. You know what I'm saying, Fye
Speaker 2: like yeah, I mean, they just don't have the resources,
Speaker 2: the infrastructure that we would. I mean, honestly, it's probably
Speaker 2: not even safe for them to have an elevator. And
Speaker 2: again I remember asking myself, why was I even on
Speaker 2: the elevator, like knowing that I'm scared of that, Why
Speaker 2: did I in the I was only going down like
Speaker 2: one level. I don't know. It might have been something
Speaker 2: about because we had to go I think that's what
Speaker 2: it was. That's what it was. In order to actually
Speaker 2: get to the restrooms, the public restrooms that you had
Speaker 2: to pay for, you had to pay and get on
Speaker 2: the elevator. That's what it was, and that's why we
Speaker 2: didn't take steps. It's an executive yeah, I mean it
Speaker 2: was disgusting too, like it was, but you know they
Speaker 2: were they were. I mean, if you've ever been to
Speaker 2: like a real tourist place like Cankun or places like that,
Speaker 2: I mean it's I've never been on a cruise, but
Speaker 2: I've heard stories when you get off the ship at
Speaker 2: certain places where they have like the excursions and whatnot,
Speaker 2: you can go explore for a few hours, Like you
Speaker 2: can't walk five feet without somebody trying to sell you something. Which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I've never used drugs in my life.
Speaker 2: I mean I've had I've had a few gummies. Maybe
Speaker 2: that counts as drugs, but like I'm not somebody that's
Speaker 2: ever I mean, I've I've just never been my thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not passing judgment on people who do use drugs.
Speaker 2: I would prefer that you didn't because you know, it's
Speaker 2: probably pretty dangerous and it can be addicting and obviously
Speaker 2: there's different levels to you know, drugs. But anytime I've
Speaker 2: gone anywhere that's a tourist place, not even not even
Speaker 2: in like Mexico or Rivier Maya, Cankun, those places, even
Speaker 2: like New Orleans in New York City, New York, Yeah, Chicago,
Speaker 2: Like I look like I got it written on my
Speaker 2: four head. This guy wants to buy drugs, like I'll
Speaker 2: be I'll be in a group of people. They'll be
Speaker 2: like six of us walking on Bourbon Street and I'm
Speaker 2: the one that they just they smell me from a
Speaker 2: mile away, asking me if I want to buy cocaine
Speaker 2: or something, and I'm like, do I look awesome? I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know what it says about me, but maybe
Speaker 2: they just think I'm a sucker. But the best thing
Speaker 2: was what I I told some friends that this this
Speaker 2: happens to me all the time, and they were like,
Speaker 2: you're exaggerating it, and I'm like, watch, watch. And we
Speaker 2: ended up getting to Cancun. This was actually a few
Speaker 2: years ago. We ended up in Cancun and we're walking
Speaker 2: down the street and within a few blocks there was
Speaker 2: one person that kind of came up discreetly, kind of
Speaker 2: like you know how you guys doing where you staying? Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, just trying, you know, being you know, buttering
Speaker 2: us up to try to sell something. And then got
Speaker 2: close enough singled me out and it's like, hey, buddy,
Speaker 2: how you feeling like I'm feeling good? And he was like,
Speaker 2: what if I told you I could gets you feeling better?
Speaker 2: And then he showed me at some cocaine. I declined,
Speaker 2: of course, And but I but I like I my
Speaker 2: buddy thought I set him up, Like my buddy thought
Speaker 2: that I told to do that, because there's no way
Speaker 2: I could have told them that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: And there was eight of us and I was the
Speaker 2: one that they came after. So anyways, it's time for
Speaker 2: a quick break, time to once again let this voice rest.
Speaker 2: And what I want to take a look at And
Speaker 2: this really doesn't prove anything. I just think it's interesting
Speaker 2: to take a look back at which teams were believed
Speaker 2: to have had the best portal classes heading into this
Speaker 2: college basketball season, as well as which players were believed
Speaker 2: to be the biggest gets. And some have been fine,
Speaker 2: some have not at all lived up to what you expected.
Speaker 2: And then there's some teams that had the best class
Speaker 2: and they stink. There's some teams that look like they
Speaker 2: got gutted by the portal. They look like they may
Speaker 2: be the biggest losers in the portal and they're having
Speaker 2: phenomenal seasons. So you're never going to really know. But
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, things that didn't used to really
Speaker 2: I think matter and coaching matter a lot now and
Speaker 2: that's how you make it all work together. And that's
Speaker 2: easier said than done, clearly, quick break it's coffee and company.
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Speaker 2: I do want to give a shout out to Scott
Speaker 2: Davenport and the Bellerman Knights for snapping a seventeen game
Speaker 2: losing streak last night. They had a beat down win
Speaker 2: over Austin p ninety four to sixty eight. In fact,
Speaker 2: I think I think I saw it's their biggest win
Speaker 2: as far as margin since they've been a Division One team.
Speaker 2: So really really rough season for coach Davenport and the Knights.
Speaker 2: And we've had a few people here and there on
Speaker 2: the text line kind of bring up like, hey, because
Speaker 2: obviously Bellerman. I don't know if they're the second team
Speaker 2: for a lot of folks around here. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of support for coach Davenport and
Speaker 2: for Bellerman here in the Louisville community. And you know,
Speaker 2: they haven't been talked about quite as much this year,
Speaker 2: and it's because if you were to talk about their season,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be a good com So you know, I
Speaker 2: believe that coach Davenport is and has proven to be
Speaker 2: a phenomenal basketball coach. And I'm not here to glaze him.
Speaker 2: He doesn't need that. I mean, he's a pretty popular
Speaker 2: guy here in town, and I know most people would
Speaker 2: agree with what I just said that he's a really
Speaker 2: good basketball coach. But I think timing, like it is
Speaker 2: in life, it's really important in every aspect, and I
Speaker 2: think the timing for Bellerman going Division I was really
Speaker 2: terrible for them because when they made the decision to
Speaker 2: leave the Division two level and join the Atlantic Sun,
Speaker 2: I mean, the world was a lot different, meaning the
Speaker 2: college basketball world, really the college I mean college sports.
Speaker 2: I mean I guess technically the world was a lot
Speaker 2: different than as well, But I mean, had they known
Speaker 2: that you'd have to start rebuilding your roster every year,
Speaker 2: and that you were going to have to start paying
Speaker 2: players to one keep them around or even get them
Speaker 2: to come to your school, whether it be from the
Speaker 2: portal or from the high school ranks. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they would have made the decision to go Division one.
Speaker 2: Maybe they would have. And here I am just thinking,
Speaker 2: like it's strictly a Scotty Davenport decision. But you know,
Speaker 2: he has bosses, there's athletic director, there, there's a president,
Speaker 2: so there's a lot more that goes into it than
Speaker 2: just deciding for the basketball program. But obviously basketball is
Speaker 2: a big deal over there, and they've been very successful
Speaker 2: at the D two level, and let's not act like
Speaker 2: they weren't successful. As soon as they made the transition,
Speaker 2: they became somewhat of a national story. I mean, they
Speaker 2: didn't dominate the headlines in college basketball, but they became
Speaker 2: somewhat of a national storyline when they won their league
Speaker 2: in the second year in it and then couldn't go
Speaker 2: to the tournament because of the stupid rule. I mean,
Speaker 2: you'll never ever convince me that that makes any sense.
Speaker 2: But again, it's one of many things the NAA has
Speaker 2: always enforced that just doesn't make any sense. That's kind
Speaker 2: of their tagline, right, they don't make sense. They're not consistent.
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't I don't know what the
Speaker 2: future holds for Bellerman hoops. They're in the league that
Speaker 2: they should be able to be competitive in, even with
Speaker 2: the challenges that everybody at that level has, right because
Speaker 2: if you are somebody that is, let me see if
Speaker 2: I can Bellerman. Right now, they're three forty six out
Speaker 2: of three sixty three in the three sixty four in
Speaker 2: the Ken Palm. I think that kind of tells you
Speaker 2: just how rough things have been for them. So the
Speaker 2: only other Division one win they have this year is
Speaker 2: against Bowling Green that happened on Saturday, November twenty third,
Speaker 2: So they've had a rough, rough, rough season one in
Speaker 2: fourteen league play now. But the other schools like Lipscomb,
Speaker 2: I guess Lipscomb's not a good example because they are
Speaker 2: one of the better teams in that conference. But Queen's West, Georgia, Stetson, Florida,
Speaker 2: Gulf Coast e KU. Look, some of these schools I'm
Speaker 2: mentioning you guys may not even be familiar with, but
Speaker 2: they're gonna they have the same challenge lenges that Bellerman
Speaker 2: is going to have, which is, if you have a
Speaker 2: really good player at that level, guess what, they're probably
Speaker 2: not going to be there very long because they're going
Speaker 2: to be able to go to a higher level and
Speaker 2: probably be able to make more money than what you
Speaker 2: could pay them as an Atlantic Sun program. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a coincidence that as soon as
Speaker 2: they made the jump and things were a little different.
Speaker 2: In fact, they were a lot different where you didn't
Speaker 2: have the portal like you do now and you didn't
Speaker 2: have nil they were successful. I mean, I believe it
Speaker 2: was in twenty Yeah, in twenty twenty one, that was
Speaker 2: their first year in Division one. They were fourteen and eight.
Speaker 2: That was the weird year where we didn't play a
Speaker 2: whole lot of games. They went ten and three in
Speaker 2: their league in the first year as a Division one program.
Speaker 2: In the Atlantic Sun's second year, they won the league.
Speaker 2: They were twenty and thirteen overall, eleven and five in
Speaker 2: league play, won the conference tournament, and couldn't go to
Speaker 2: the Big Dance because of the stupid rule. So I've
Speaker 2: always believed that Scott Davenport is a phenomenal basketball coach,
Speaker 2: phenomenal guy as well. I mean I can tell you
Speaker 2: first hand going to his camps when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: just getting to know him a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 2: I would love for my son to play for Scotty Davvenboord,
Speaker 2: I wish I could have played for Scotty Davenport. So
Speaker 2: I was happy to see that he did get the
Speaker 2: breakthrough win last night, and I'm hopeful that that can
Speaker 2: give them at least a little bit of momentum to
Speaker 2: maybe finish strong and hopefully be in a better position
Speaker 2: next year because it's been a rough season for him.
Speaker 2: And really, let's be honest moving forward, I mean, the
Speaker 2: selling points for Bellerman are harder to sell now because
Speaker 2: well I put it this way. The selling points are
Speaker 2: still there, but I think it finding the guys who
Speaker 2: really value while the Bellerman experience is the way to
Speaker 2: go for you is gonna be hard because again, they
Speaker 2: don't have a big an Aisle budget, And you know
Speaker 2: that matters now, It just does. And I think Scotty
Speaker 2: has always been great at building teams, I mean getting god,
Speaker 2: I mean, his best teams that I can think of
Speaker 2: at that Bellerman have been teams that, you know, you
Speaker 2: see guys that played there for three or four years,
Speaker 2: and they were they were a little bit better and
Speaker 2: a little bit more impactful as their career went on.
Speaker 2: And then sure enough, every so often he'd have a
Speaker 2: team that was pretty special to where they could be
Speaker 2: competing for the Division two national championship or maybe winning
Speaker 2: it like they did roughly ten years ago or whenever
Speaker 2: that was. So, I just you know when it's I
Speaker 2: saw Dylan Penn leave after they won the conference tournament
Speaker 2: in the portal and he went to like it wasn't
Speaker 2: as he left to go to like a high level school,
Speaker 2: but like Bellerman being a brand new school again at
Speaker 2: that point. And this is something I should have mentioned.
Speaker 2: When they weren't eligible to go to the tournament like that,
Speaker 2: that's a good reason for guys to leave like that.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely when they don't have to sit out and
Speaker 2: they clearly want to play in the big Dance. I
Speaker 2: don't even think Scotty would fall to them if they decided. Now, again,
Speaker 2: they knew when they signed up that they weren't going
Speaker 2: to be able to play in the tournament, but then
Speaker 2: things changed. They could leave without sitting out. So maybe
Speaker 2: maybe once that they can sell that, hey, we win
Speaker 2: this tournament, we can go to the big Dance, we
Speaker 2: can be the potential sin Sorella. Maybe that helps him
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I didn't want to give You know,
Speaker 2: some people talking like, do you think maybe they've give
Speaker 2: him a boot?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean Bellerman knows they have a phenomenal basketball coach,
Speaker 2: and I think Scotty Davenport will be the coach there
Speaker 2: until he doesn't want to be anymore. And that's the
Speaker 2: way it should be. Just my thoughts. But we got
Speaker 2: two more hours left, so stick with us. It is
Speaker 2: coffee and Company and we are fuel about Thornton's two
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Speaker 2: being you, Yeah, well done. I don't know if my
Speaker 2: voice is ever great, but certainly not great today, So
Speaker 2: bear with me.