Speaker 1: I'm bouncing around. We're bouncing around all over them. This
is our scattershot show.
Speaker 2: All right, Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely Can't
Be Serious Podcast, discussing and debating the iconic and the
forgotten of eighties and nineties pop culture.
Speaker 1: With your co hosts James D. Graves and Jason Colban.
Speaker 3: All Right, everybody, welcome back to part two of the
Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast, coming to America versus
Trading Places debate.
Speaker 1: I am here with my friend Jason Colvin.
Speaker 4: How's everybody doing?
Speaker 1: Good to see it? Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4: We're so glad to listen.
Speaker 3: And just as an intro to this, we normally keep
things family friendly, and we will in this episode as well,
but these two movies are chocked full of wonderful quotes
which we go over today, and many of which are
filled with non family friendly language. We will cont you
to keep it family friendly, but you might consider this
a PG episode, nothing worse than you're going to see
on television these days. But without further ado, here we go.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: One of the things I wanted to bring up is
similarly in both of these movies, Eddie Murphy breaks the
fourth wall.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how many of his movies that
he does it in, but he does it a lot.
Certainly in the two movies that we're looking at, we
know that he does it. So he does it after
he gets arrested for you know, bumping into dan Aykroyd
and trying to give him his briefcase. Back as the
police car's about to pull away. It gives the camera
a look that's the breaking of the fourth wall in
case you didn't know that term. But he gives he
looks directly into the camera.
Speaker 4: My favorite, one of my favorite moments in the whole
movie where the Duke brothers sit Billy Ray Valentine down
at the table and they're explaining what they do right, commodities, Right,
they're like.
Speaker 5: Pork bellies, which is used to make bacon, what you
might find in a bacon and let us a tomato sandwich.
Speaker 1: And anviews of the game.
Speaker 4: We're like these guys, they come a complete idiot.
Speaker 3: It happens again in Coming to America and our favorite scene,
whatever you.
Speaker 1: Like, and she's park like a dog. He turned to
looks right at us.
Speaker 4: This is really happening right now, That is such a
great way of bringing the audience sing down the joke.
Speaker 1: You know, it's fantastic. A big dog. How would we
like Stalden Blood? What's it saying?
Speaker 4: See you next Wednesday? Okay, John Landis has a thing
where he mentions this phrase called see you next Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hear it come up?
Speaker 3: You know in our thriller episode absolutely in the movie
scene that is in the Thriller video.
Speaker 1: That's the last little bit of dialogue. You hear it
says see you.
Speaker 4: Next wednesdayday right before our girl Ola Ray walks out.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But then again you see it in American Werewolf in
London advertised is one of the poorn movies. You would
have seen it in the Blues Brothers on a big
billboard that has like a big gorilla on it.
Speaker 1: Deal with gorillas. I don't know what.
Speaker 3: Well Orlandis has another thing with gorillas. But then of
course it comes up in trading places.
Speaker 4: It's on a poster in Ophelia's Wall.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, and it says directed by William Wyler and
starring Lawrence Olivier. So then again it comes up coming
to America.
Speaker 4: It's a big poster on the subway wall.
Speaker 3: Right, So he chases Lisa down to apologize for not
telling her the truth. She's frustrated at him. And as
the train car comes to a stop, you see this
giant poster on the wall. It's got this kind of
space looking woman on it, kind of a Barberilla type
of throwback. And then the name of the movie is
See You Next Wednesday, starring Jamie Lee Curtis. That's cool, yeah,
and dan Aykroyd.
Speaker 4: So I saw him talk about this, right, So to
see You Next Wednesday thing, it's not just thrown into
any movie rarely. What he talked about was when he
was a young guy, he wrote a script called see
You Next Wednesday. Anytime he cannibalizes anything from that script, yes,
he gives a nod to it.
Speaker 3: And that script, as I understand a guy in quite
a few writing jobs, he struggled quite a while as
a fledgling director. He actually has an interesting story. He
decides he wants to be a director at eight years
old after seeing the Seventh Voyage of Sinbad and it's
just amazed at the graphics on it, loves the movie,
goes home and says to his mom, who makes movies.
How does that work? You know, he's just a little kid,
and she's like, well, that's the director. From that moment on,
he decides he wants to be a director, and so
at sixteen, instead of going to work at McDonald's like
most kids do, he goes to work in the mailroom
at twenties Century Fox and is just fascinated by it
and meets some people, and then at some point a
couple of years later, he gets a call from a
guy who's making the movie Kelly's Heroes, which starts Clint Eastwood.
He says, if you can get out to Yugoslavia, I
might be able to get you a job on this movie.
I mean, how promising is that. He's in California, he's seventeen,
eighteen years old something like that. And then if you
can get out to Yugoslavia, yeah, I might have a
job for you.
Speaker 1: Right, So what does he do?
Speaker 3: He goes and gets his life savings, which that points
about twelve hundred bucks. The tickets are eight hundred, and
he buys his own ticket. But then he takes to
his mom and says, hey, the studio has offered me
a job and is paying my way out to Yugoslavia
and shows her the ticket that he bought, and so
she lets him go, and so he goes out there.
He works on Kelly's Heroes, meets all these people, and
he does a wide array of things stuntman work, writing work,
grunt work for about twenty thirty movies out there over
the course of a couple of years before he comes back.
Speaker 1: And then he sits down for the.
Speaker 3: To be a part of the Director's Guild, you had
to have a test that you've got to take, and
he kills it. He aises the test, but then they
call him in they're like, I'm sorry, you didn't graduate
from high school. We can't allow you to be a
part of the director skilled Wow. And this is all
before Schlock comes out. So yeah, his road was a
hard road to get to where he was.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and one more thing I wanted to mention
before we move on. That subway station, yes with the
see you Next Wednesday poster. Yes, as a cheam is
chasing Li said, you know that subway station and I'm
going to mispronounce it, but it's the Hoyt sure Horn
subway station.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're from Oklahoma, not New York. Sorry, that's right.
Speaker 4: Sorry, that is where the Michael Jackson Bad video was
filmed right there as well.
Speaker 3: Right, so we got a connection with Michael Jackson's bad video,
connection with Michael Jackson's thriller video. And then in another
video that John Landers directed, that Michael Jackson video Black
or White, See You Next Wednesday is shown on the
window which Michael Jackson throws the garbage can through.
Speaker 4: And in case you missed it, episode one and two
of the Shirley Can Be Series podcast, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bad versus Thriller.
Speaker 3: And just as a side note on the coming to America,
the other stars in addition to dan Aykroyd and Jamie La,
Curtis mo Howard and James Brown nice.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's one head of a day in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, should we talk about Eddie Murphy's
the characters that he did on Saturday Night Live because
they were fantastic.
Speaker 1: He of course did Buck Wheat, Yes, Who's hilarious.
Speaker 6: Woe play?
Speaker 3: And he was then of course mister Robinson and then
he was Gummy, Gummy dammit. So here's something I learned.
There was an idea for a movie that they had
called Purple Wheat, which was which was the movie Purple Rain,
except it was buck Wheat.
Speaker 1: The Prince part.
Speaker 4: Now that I guess he is a really funny skit.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the movie, but yeah, i'd watched
the whole movie. And so he's doing Saturday Night Live.
He's done forty eight hours. It becomes a big hit,
and then Nick, he's like, Nick, you should come host
the show. We have shows at the time. Nick shows up,
and the story that they give the people is Nick
was sick, like he had the flu. The fact is
Nick Nolty was drunk out of his mind, like he
could not perform. And so what ended up happening is
they had Eddie Murphy be the host of the show.
It's the only time that a cast member has been
a host as well. He starts off the show with
Live from New York, It's the Eddie Murphy Show, and
everybody's like, WHOA, what did he just do? Because that
was not scripted that he'd say it like that.
Speaker 1: And it's live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk just a moment before we move on
too much. But so Billy Ray Valentine funny, but it
is a version of Eddie Murphy. That character is basically
a smart.
Speaker 1: Leg version of Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw Eddie Murphy talking about it. When he wanted
to do Coming to America. He wanted to play a
character that wasn't himself, right, So Prince Akim is not
really Eddie Murphy. I mean, you know all your parts time,
but Prince Akim is like my favorite Eddie Murphy character.
Speaker 3: He's well, he's genuine, he's real, he's honest, he's a
good he's got good morals. And we talked about Prince
and the Popper and Pygmalion being kind of the underlying
stories for trading places. John landis is Coming to America
is a Cinderella story, which I completely disagree with. It's
not remotely Cinderella at all. We got a prince who's
being poor. It's still the Prince in the Popper story.
But it's not Lisa's story. It's not her story. I mean,
it's not called I Met a Prince. It's a different
perspective on it. But the the story actually was something
that they say was Eddie Murphy's. Like Arsenio Hall said, Yeah,
Eddie Murphy wrote this on a pad But actually when
the movie came out, there was some litigation that happened too.
A guy named Art Buckwald, who was a humorist, had
proposed a script several years earlier, eighty two or eighty three.
I think that was connected with John Landis, connected with
Eddie Murphy, and was the idea of a prince from
Africa coming to America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he sued and he won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he won nine hundred thousand dollars was the verdict.
Nine hundred thousand dollars. He got one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars and the attorney's got seven hundred and fifty
Oh my gosh, that's terrible. They actually lawyers. Yeah, don't
trust him. They ended up, you know, there was going
to be an appeal, but they ended up settling before
the appeal was finalized. So I don't know if that
was what the final amount was, but that was what
the original verdict was.
Speaker 4: Wow. Was one of the characters that Aidemaricy plays in
coming to America, the barber. There's a couple of things
I want to mention about the barber.
Speaker 1: I'm bouncing around.
Speaker 3: That's that's we're bouncing around all over the this is
our scattershot show.
Speaker 4: All right, So he plays the barber, kind of the
older barber. Number one. Every piece of advice that this
guy gives is spot on good advice. So he tells
him number one. He's like, I'm interested in meeting women. Right,
Where can I meet women?
Speaker 1: We've been We've been to every bar in the Yeah.
Speaker 4: He said, oh, man, you don't want to go there.
You want to go where's a good place? Community events? Church?
And then he says, hey, there's something going on called
the Black Awareness thing down here at the community center
at the church.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Well, it turns out that's where Hakim meets Lisa. Then
later Hikeem comes back and he wants to get his
soul glow on, right, and the guy said, man, no,
you don't want to do that. He does, that's ridiculous.
You don't want to do that. Just you know, leave
your normal hair that nobody likes.
Speaker 1: That's just.
Speaker 4: Later he comes back and asks him. He says, well,
how do I get in with a woman? And the
barber says, if you want to get in with the lady,
how do you do it? You get in good with
her father? And that's why he ends up going to McDowell.
So every piece of advice it gets from him is solid.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: He also this barber. Actually, when he's arguing with the
different barbers and the different people in his his barbershop,
they're talking about the greatest boxers of all time, right,
and Saul, the old Jewish man played by Eddy Murphy,
says what about Rocky Marciano? And he says, there you go,
there you go. Every time I bring out boxers, there
there one white guy in the room brings up Rocky
mars noun he.
Speaker 5: Beat Joe Louis's ass, that fright he did?
Speaker 4: Whoop?
Speaker 1: You'll know what ass?
Speaker 2: Joe Lord was.
Speaker 1: Theventy five you know when it fought Frank s came in.
It's a Frank how Zoe Luis?
Speaker 4: Well, you had never met Frank Sinatcha. But Rocky Marciano
was twenty eight when he fought Joe Louis, and Joe
Louis was thirty seven.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: Frank told me, he said, hey, ye.
Speaker 3: Know, those guys are hilarious. Okay, so let me just
I'll sidetrack on that. Coming to America, the beginning in
Africa in Zimunda is hilarious from the get go.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got white brows.
Speaker 3: I mean, from that moment on, it's funny, funny, funny,
it's NonStop funny thing. As soon as they get into York,
you've got this ridiculousness that happens with Jake the Body.
Speaker 1: You remember that, Yeah, Jake's biddy. Yeah you dumb? Yeap
what the dumb?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Body by Jake was big for about five minutes.
Speaker 3: It's hard to talk about these movies with keeping it clean.
We can't cuss all the best lines. And so then
of course they go into the barbershop after they've found
their place to stay, and.
Speaker 4: You you who, let's talk about who's in the barber chair?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, So in coming to America, you've got
a guy, a Oscar winning actor who has no lines
and no action.
Speaker 1: He's just sitting there smiling. His name is he was
getting jor Yeah.
Speaker 3: Apparently there was a scene that they filmed where, you know,
he's just a kid in the movie and he's he says,
he tells the barber, hey, I'm sorry, I don't have
any money to pay for my haircut, and then the
barber like cuts him. That's a big chunk out of
his hair. And if you look, you can tell it's
fake hair that he's got on.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I would have liked to see that scene
in that movie too. That would have been That would
have been funny.
Speaker 4: Did we talk about the bag Handlers from Trading Places?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The Baghandlers were the comedy writing team from SNL Franken
and Davis.
Speaker 1: It was Al Franken and Tom Davis and.
Speaker 3: They they did a lot of comedy bits, but they
weren't the original guys who were supposed to play this part.
The original guys were Dave Thomas and Rick Moranis as
the McKenzie brothers, right, Doug and Bob mackenzie tick off?
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, poser, how many times are we gonna say that?
Speaker 2: I get?
Speaker 3: I hope every single both from sc TV Fame. Dave
Thomas was also one of the co writers with Dan
Aykroyd for Spies Like Us.
Speaker 1: Right, John Lands movie, That's cool. I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if we mentioned this or not,
but Steven Stucker is the gorilla Handler. He's also Johnny
from Airplane.
Speaker 3: The funniest guy in Airplane, I mean the whole movie, right,
you know, we love it, right, But gosh, that guy's
lines Rapunzel speak, pretty, playing wheels, picked stripe, roach or paradactyl.
Speaker 4: We were about ready to talk about I have.
Speaker 3: No idea where we are. This is the scattershot let
go in. Yeah, you you start with Trading Places since
it was first. Okay, so here are my first moments.
Speaker 4: When Eddie Murphy is in the bathtub and Coleman turns
on the jacuzzie.
Speaker 1: For him, say, man, when I was growing up, we
want to go. We had to fought in the tongue. Okay.
Speaker 3: So I'll shoot back with the other pub line from
Coming to America.
Speaker 5: Father. It is not just that.
Speaker 6: It's everything, the cooking, the pampering, the dressing, the bathing.
Speaker 1: Actually I'd rather enjoy the bathing. But that's funny.
Speaker 4: My fifth favorite line and Coming to America.
Speaker 1: Oh it is my twenty first birthday.
Speaker 5: Do you think perhaps, just once I might use the
bathroom by myself?
Speaker 1: Most of music?
Speaker 2: Sir? Why b so?
Speaker 4: My fourth favorite line from Trading Places? Yes, when the
Duke brothers give the guy his Christmas bonus, uh huh,
and he.
Speaker 1: Says, here you go.
Speaker 4: I bet you thought we forgot about you. Here's your
Christmas bonus. He hands me a five dollar bill, five dollars,
maybe I'll go to the movies by myself, and then
Bornver goes Hey, half of that.
Speaker 1: Was from me, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love how they established at the beginning of those
guys are jerks right off the bat. Yes, you know,
they're leaving their mansion and everybody is like, hello, mister Duke,
thank you, mister Duke, Hello, mister Duke, and they're just
not anybody just it's all beneath them, right, And you
kind of get the same thing with dan Akroyd. He's
just but he responds to people, but he's very much
not looking at them. By the way, the first when
he walks into Duke and Duke for the first time
and hands his coat and his tie and gloves to
the gentleman, he's says hello, mister Winthorpe, Hello folsy, and
then hands them and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's actually the producer of the movie. Here's a real name,
is holding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: So Trading Place's first funny part for me is whatever
Eddie Murphy is having the party at his house and
you have the of course absurd people taking women taking
off their clothes and dancing around naked and Dunham Elliott
he's looking around and he's like, no, he's looking at me.
Now I'm drinking. He's drinking the drinks. He's having a
good time. He's kind of checking out.
Speaker 4: It's hilarious that party scene at the very end, when
Eddie Murphy gets sick of everybody free load and he
comes up to the two guys that are going to
beat him up in the cell, he's like, he's like,
let's go, you know, and the guy's like, man, you
are the most righteous and Eddie Murphy's like, yeah, right,
just get the out of here.
Speaker 3: So whenever, whenever Eddie Murphy is in the car for
the first time, that whole scene is hilarious.
Speaker 1: We're going to start you with eighty thousand dollars a.
Speaker 2: Year, excupid.
Speaker 1: It's a practical joke, right, bright These guys are a
couple of It's not appropriate, but it's funny, Right, what's
my next move? Man?
Speaker 3: The chauffeur doesn't say anything, thank you've been, but he's
he's talking to When he's getting introduced to Randall and Mortimer,
he's like, Morte all right. Randy Ay Jackson from the
Jackson vibe.
Speaker 1: That's okay. So the other laugh out loud moment.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you who the actor is, but whenever
after dan Aykroyd has been arrested, after Winthorpe has been arrested,
and he's getting bailed out and his girlfriend is waiting
for him, and the guy like move.
Speaker 1: The ladies follow asleep and she's trying to put you off,
and that comes his dad next to hers. Is that
your prayer? That's a nice I don't know who the
actor is. I try to figure out how that it was.
I can't. I can't tell you.
Speaker 4: Just the smelly guy on the bench, and Clarence speaks, funny, funny, funny.
Speaker 1: Paul Gleeson as the jerk.
Speaker 4: He plays the jerk beautifully, I mean in the best.
Speaker 3: Movies, Like he's the jerk guy in Breakfast Club, he's
the jerk guy in Dieard, he's the jerk guy in
this movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's awesome, awesome. Here's an interesting another you know,
let's go let's scattershot baby.
Speaker 3: All right, So Clarence beaks that part was originally supposed
to go to see Gordon Liddy, which historically.
Speaker 1: Is an interesting kind of guy he was.
Speaker 3: I don't want to take away from everything he's done,
but the interesting things about him are he was a
part of the Richard Nixon campaign, managed that campaign, and
then ultimately got caught up in the Watergate scandal and
got sentenced to twenty years for that. And I found
out later on he served like one hundred and two
days in solitary confinement.
Speaker 1: I can't even wow, I can't. I don't know how
that works. But he was an.
Speaker 3: Amazing guy, whatever the politics are, an incredible human being
accomplishing things obviously. But then Jimmy Carter lets him out
after five years in the interest of justice, and you know,
land Is, it's obvious, number one, It's obvious that Landis
is about a scattershot as this episode is, right, he
just goes all over the place. I mean, I've had
clients who talk like that who've been deemed incompetence. Okay,
But anyway, he's obviously a very liberal guy. See Gordon
Lyddy is this very conservative guy, and so Landis wants
him to play the part of Clarence Beaks, the ultimate.
Speaker 1: Jerk guy in the movie, right, right, right, So he
ends up not being able to do it, but they
still managed to get him in.
Speaker 3: As Paul Gleeson is sitting in the train car before
the other people getting on come in. He's reading a
book and the book is Will the Autobiography of se
Gordon Liddy.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: You know when you mentioned Paul Gleeson, they wanted him
to reprise the part of Clarence Beaks in Coming to America,
but he was busy shooting this little film.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever heard of this called Dieharden.
Speaker 1: Oh you to remember something about that agent Dwayne Johnson.
Now what is it? Dwayne Dwayne T.
Speaker 4: Robinson.
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name in that. I think that
may be right, if only we had tell us.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of the line, oh, you're in charge
from up here to look like you're in charge of check.
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy who just got.
Speaker 4: TV.
Speaker 1: Dwayne T. Robinson for the wind? Hey where to go? Yes,
you're gonna have to get some new FB I got.
Speaker 4: All right. My second favorite line in Trading Place is
Danna Ackroyd has tried to commit suicide and anyway, they
rescue him, bringing back to his house, and he is
in his original house and of course Coleman's there helping
nursing back to health. When he comes to, he's like, oh, Coleman,
it's just this terrible dream. It was all because of
this terrible, awful negro and Eddie Murphy is standing there
and he's like, hey, wait at what enemy sees me.
He jumps out of bed and starts choking him, and
he's holding down his chair and baking his head on
the floor.
Speaker 3: Blast does get dope. Okay, I like the I like
it when they're looking at Clarence peaks inside of the
ape suit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, let him it's Christmas. Let him have
their fun.
Speaker 4: The best line in Trading Places is at the very last.
Speaker 5: Scene, looking good, Billy Ray, really good? It all right?
Speaker 3: So coming to America. Best lines, This one is a
good one. James Earld Jones delivers the line after the
Queen's speech. Delivers the line of there's a very fine line.
Speaker 1: Between love and nausea.
Speaker 3: And it's not necessarily funny because of his delivery, but
because of her reaction.
Speaker 1: She's got a bunch of great reactions throughout this movie.
He's funny. James O.
Speaker 4: Jones has some hilarious lines in there. I'm gonna jump
up to my number two. But Eddie Murphy says, I'm
a man who has never tied his own shoes.
Speaker 1: He's like, wrong, you're a prince who.
Speaker 4: Has never tied your own shoes. And he says, I
tied my own shoes once. It is an overrated experience.
Speaker 1: So funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah. My fourth favorite line from Coming to America is
the bonus scene at the very end of the movie
where the Jewish guy Saw is telling his joke.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, my gosh, can I tell the joke?
Speaker 4: Go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Man walks into as he listen, he listen. No,
we'll just play that joke because I can't do juice right.
Speaker 5: And stop right there, listen, stop right there.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: Man goes into a restaurant. You're listening. And man goes
into a restaurant.
Speaker 4: He's down.
Speaker 5: He's having a bowl of soup. He says to the
Vada Vada, come taste of soup. Says, there's something wrong
with the soup. Just tys of soup. There's something wrong
with the soap. So well, your tasted soap is wrong
with the soap too. Call well, you're just tasted soap.
All right, I'll taste the soup. Where's the spoon? Aha?
Speaker 1: Aha?
Speaker 4: I still caute that.
Speaker 5: Why are you know? From funny up bash.
Speaker 3: Next favorite part is whenever he comes out and he
starts singing, sheeez yr.
Speaker 6: Queer to me.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, number one, it's just hilarious. That is happening.
But then you get some of those lines in there
free from infection? I need more?
Speaker 4: What are you talking about when he's singing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when the guy when he's singing sheees your queen,
she's perfection, she's free from infection.
Speaker 4: That that was improved by that guy.
Speaker 1: Really? Yes, oh he killed it. Oh my gosh, it's hilarious.
Speaker 4: My wife's birthday the other day, and when we lit
the candles, I was singing cheese.
Speaker 3: There's some great I mean there, it's funny, funny throughout,
and there's some real laugh out loud moments. Okay, So
when the landlord is taking them up to the apartment
telling him about you know, it's only got one window
that faces a brick wall and rented it out to
a blind man. They open it up and the tapes
on the floor and he goes, damn shame.
Speaker 4: When they walk by the bathroom, he's like, here's the
bathroom you gotta share. Not an insect problem, but you
boss Mafka, you're used to that.
Speaker 1: Then it comes out of the window, good morning my neighbors.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you don't. Oh. And then and the other
scene in the barbershop when he's talking about me, Martin
Luther King.
Speaker 6: I walking out through out of my own benagit walt
no feeling good. I walk around the corner. Man will
up hit me in my chest right, I'm falling on
the ground. And doctor Martin said, doctor King, somebody else.
Speaker 4: Man, you ain't never met King.
Speaker 3: And then you've got the whole scene where they're in
the bar and all of the women that come in
and the first one that they meet and she's so smiley,
and then I have a secret.
Speaker 4: I worshiped the devil. Oh, my name is Jesus, and
I'm the best.
Speaker 6: All the DJs want to feel my brus.
Speaker 4: The worst one of all is that one lady who's like,
I need a man satisfying me shot. Some guys do
an our hour and a half shot.
Speaker 1: I need more.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: And then Arsenio Hall playing the preacher with the girls
is it's bordering on that is it too inappropriate?
Speaker 1: Funny? But man, is it funny.
Speaker 4: His dad was actually a preacher, so that's why he
did that character so well.
Speaker 1: He nailed it. Man, it's perfect.
Speaker 3: Chocolate you remember him as Joe the policeman from What's
Going Down episode of That's My Mama.
Speaker 1: Mister Randall Wawson.
Speaker 3: And then that whole bit it's so awkward, It's so
wonderfully awkward and hilarious at the same time. And then
sexy Chocolate, stomp, stomp, Sexy Chocolate drops the mic does
the point, walks.
Speaker 1: Off stage and he comes up.
Speaker 4: He has he has to pick up the microphone from
the ground.
Speaker 1: Let's give it again another random of blause. Mister Randy
was good and terrible.
Speaker 4: Actually, when when Randy Watson performs the Greatest Love of
All you have to be like an eighties music fan
to really get this. But he mixes up the lyrics.
Speaker 1: Yes, he screws up the lines. Oh yeah, I think
that's only you getting that kind of joke. Yeah, I
missed that one completely.
Speaker 4: My favorite scene in the entire movie, though, is the
Duke's brother scene, and it's it's so satisfying to see
that come full circle. There are bums on the street
after what happened in Trading Places. I think it's interesting
that these movies sort of live in the same universe.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 1: So when Prince a Kiem starts, I have recently been
placed in charge of garbage. This is flirtation. When you
think of Garva, think of Akim. So this is interesting.
Speaker 3: So Coming to America is the first time that Eddie
Murphy is playing a romantic lead part. You know, this
is all of the movies that he's done. This is
the first time that he's got a love interest in
the movie. And I think he nails it. I mean,
he's he's charming, he's lovable. You know, he's goofy at
the beginning, which creates a sympathy for him.
Speaker 1: He does pull it off. I'm totally agreeing with you.
Speaker 4: Are we moving into now the comments and criticisms on
how we feel about the movies?
Speaker 1: Sure? U, let's you get more funny lines.
Speaker 4: From Coming I mean I can do this all day.
But yeah, so Coming to America does a great job.
It is actually, in my opinion, is very very funny
the first half and then it kind of moves into
this romance and I'm not critical of it because he
pulls it off.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely balls off the scene on the swing.
Speaker 3: And by the way, we're about to leave funny lines
and moving into something else, but you just made remember
the part that is also hilarious, which is.
Speaker 1: King or not I'll break my foot off?
Speaker 3: And apparently John Amos had lived that line, you know,
was it was not quite so you know rough you
thought it needed more punch.
Speaker 4: Cleo McDowell is awesome. He's one of my favorite characters
in that movie.
Speaker 1: Just real quick, let's catch on Darryl too, because Darryl
is such a good jerk.
Speaker 3: You know, we talked about knowing that the Dukes are
bad guys from the beginning with because they refuse to
to talk to anybody that's beneath them. The exact same
thing is happening with Daryl, who walks in and you know,
Cleo's kissing his butt and grasps the shake that's supposed
to go on to a little kid strawberry, right, and
then he's I mean, he just jerk. You know, wearing
clothes must be a new experience. Bet you guys played
games like Chase the Monkey.
Speaker 4: So coming to America I think is A is a
great comedy. I don't have anything bad to say about
this man. I enjoy this movie. I told you before
that the character of Prince A Kim is my favorite
Eddie Murphy character, maybe between that and Shrek or that
in Donkey. He's a gentleman, he's noble. He he gets
mad at Samuel L. Jackson for using obscenities, which is
kind of funny, but it turns into a romantic comedy
that that I think works. I think it's got heart.
I think it you want to see them end up together.
I think as a movie it works.
Speaker 3: The bit at the end where he's chasing her down
and the people on the subway are watching them go
back and forth is a classic John Lander's bit, and
he had done it just a bit before with the Dog.
He's O the dog watching back and forth between the
events unfolding between Cleo and the King and Queen, and
it's just it's a neat it's a neat bit that
he does. But I love that kind of romantic where
they're like, what's gonna happen? They're they're, they're, they're the audience.
It's a great, great little bit. What I just there's
so many funny lines, like I when Simmy has had
his money come and taken down and he goes to
send the telegram.
Speaker 1: That lady who's at the telegram office is hilarious. I
need to look her up, okay, because she's she's hysterical.
And then she's like, you sure three hundred thousand, and
he's like, you think I should ask for more? Why not?
Speaker 6: As long as you're asking, why don't we go for
a cool million?
Speaker 1: You do not think that would be too much?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hilarious.
Speaker 4: Let's go opinion now, Okay, are we ready to do opinion?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, go okay.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I enjoy I enjoy Trading Places more.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: I think it's a little more absurd, it's a little
more lighthearted. It's funny from beginning to end. I think
Coming to America is brilliantly funny at the beginning and
then sort of fades into this romance. But it works,
and so I enjoy the movie a lot.
Speaker 1: So if I put him on the.
Speaker 4: Scales, I'm tipping a little more towards Trading Places.
Speaker 3: I see you now, it's kind of interesting because I
have like the reverse perception of your thing. I don't
think that Trading Places is funny from beginning to end.
I like, you love both movies, love watching them both,
but you've got a lot of build up that happens
on Trading Places. Like I didn't realize how long the
build up was. I think, you know, my memory was
just of Jamie Lee Curtis's naked movies, and so.
Speaker 1: I had forgotten. I mean, it's an hour into the movie.
Speaker 3: Before that happens, and so you've got this kind of
long build up that's not funny. It's just a setup.
And so the difference I think is with Coming to America. Yes,
it is funny from beginning to end. I mean even
I mean even.
Speaker 1: At the point that the that the King and Queen
are showing up, it's still funny. A little late for
the Christmas Path. This is beautiful? Is that velvet? I
mean it just never it.
Speaker 3: Never stops being funny throughout the movie. Now, Trading Places,
I just it's not quite as funny. It's a good story,
and I like the way it plays out, but I
think it's just kind of a little absurd. It is
supposed to be more realistic, but it's a little absurd
Number one. First absurd thing is Clarence peaks in as
the security expert, saying, you know, put your hand on
the guy's right shoulder, put your other hand in his
left pocket. I mean, how dumb. I mean, would anybody
actually believe that? That's kind of ridiculous?
Speaker 4: This giant red X is on the dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then after that, like Eddie Murphy is instantly
possessive and angry about his possessions, and then he's instantly
on the cover of the Wall Street Journal. I mean,
it's just I mean, that's just this is happening in
the course of a couple of days. I mean, it's
just a little bit too crazy.
Speaker 4: It's absurd.
Speaker 3: John Landis needed a little more like of a montage
scene where we're sitting, Oh, okay, these are the things
that are happening as time passes. But instead it's just
like boom it happens, Boom it happens, and you're just like,
I can't believe this has happened to that fast.
Speaker 1: That's where I am on the tipping of the scales.
I gotta go with.
Speaker 3: Coming to America, because funny from beginning in it, I
still Love Trading Places is going to be a close
call anytime. But because coming to America, it's NonStop comedy
from beginning to end and still manages to give you
a compelling romantic story, It's got to be the winner
in my book.
Speaker 4: Okay, that sounds good. I love both movies. Like you said,
I don't know how much more we could say. I
laugh out loud when I watch both of these movies.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen one of these movies, yeah, you
need to correct that. Well, yeah, you probably should have
not listened to this.
Speaker 4: Ye, this episode makes absolutely no sense to you.
Speaker 3: Oh spoiler alert, the last hour has been a spoiler
for both movies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, sorry about that.
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