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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everyone, this is not Dan Kaplis. This is Heidigena

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<v Speaker 2>filling in for Dan. I believe he's stuck in a

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<v Speaker 2>trial today and he may join us in the second hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Super excited to be here today, Ryan, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>have some fun today and talk about women in politics,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically Republican women, and how on earth we can support

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 4>I like it because there's a turning point here and

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen it a lot with yourself running as the

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<v Speaker 4>nominee for the Republican Party as the candidate for governor

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<v Speaker 4>against Jared Polis, who, I might add, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>is one of the most anti woman governors that we've

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<v Speaker 4>ever had, and his comments continue to follow along those lines.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're absolutely right the lot of up and coming

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<v Speaker 4>and establish strong Republican women in politics that really get

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<v Speaker 4>overlooked by the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and you know, I know a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know we all face a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>same comments and ridicule and questioning by some of our

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<v Speaker 2>liberal friends and the liberal media. Uh, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the traditional women's issues are seen as

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<v Speaker 2>on the Democrat side, where I think it's shifting. I

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<v Speaker 2>truly think it's starting to shift. So today I want

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<v Speaker 2>to dig into some of those issues and talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what it means for the election in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we look back President Biden in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>he won by He won fifty percent of suburban voters

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty seven percent of female voters.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>He beat Trump by two percentage points in the former

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<v Speaker 2>category of fifteen percentage points in the latter group. So

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<v Speaker 2>with women, I think it's going to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different this time, even though we have a woman candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I think that is that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, a lot of women, are waking up to

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<v Speaker 2>how extreme the Democrats' views are an abortion. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're waking up to how freedom loving and advocating we

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<v Speaker 2>are for them on health issues, health freedom issues specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll talk a little bit about Nicole Shanahan, who

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<v Speaker 2>was Robert Kennedy's VP pick who's come out strong for Trump?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I also think that some of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Issues we're facing right now really affect women. If you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, women care about being safe. They want

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<v Speaker 2>their family to be safe, they want to earn a

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<v Speaker 2>good income, and they want to see their neighborhoods healthy

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<v Speaker 2>and strong. They don't want a lot of crime. So

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these issues are going to trend more.

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<v Speaker 3>Women to pick Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>The in the know, the secrecy of their ballot picking,

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe they don't say it out loud, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think when the numbers come out afterwards, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see a shocking surprising number of women that voted

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<v Speaker 2>for Donald Trump versus in the last couple elections.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your take on that? Oops, I think Ryan's busy, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you provide a definition for the word woman?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I provide a definition?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Not akay context, I'm not a biology of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Word woman is so unclear and controversial that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>give me a definition, Senator.

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<v Speaker 5>In my work as a judge, what I do is

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<v Speaker 5>I address dispute. If there's a dispute about a definition,

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<v Speaker 5>people make arguments and I look at the law and

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<v Speaker 5>I decide.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was Marcia Blackburn the Tennessee Center asking Kaitanji

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<v Speaker 2>Brown Jackson during her twenty two Supreme Court confirmation hearings

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<v Speaker 2>could she provide a definition.

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<v Speaker 3>For the word woman? And she danced around it.

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<v Speaker 2>She couldn't really come up with an answer, and she

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<v Speaker 2>ended up noting that she was not a biologist. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was hilarious. I'm like, you don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to be a biologist, especially if you're a woman, to

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<v Speaker 2>know that you're a woman. But that's the crazy society

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<v Speaker 2>that we live in right now. And recently I read

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<v Speaker 2>an article that just made me chuckle. Its title was

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<v Speaker 2>it was a New York magazine article and it said

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<v Speaker 2>the baffling contradictory demands of being female in the Party

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<v Speaker 2>of Donald Trump. And I thought, well, that clip kind

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<v Speaker 2>of says it all. I'm sorry, Ryan, and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>where you were playing the clip when I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you talk to me?

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it just kind of encapsulates everything that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on right now with this scratching of the head,

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<v Speaker 2>like how come Donald Trump's making such inroads with women

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<v Speaker 2>across America, and we talked a little bit about his

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<v Speaker 2>appearance last night at the rally and how kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy was and how comfortable he seemed in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>He showed the softer side of.

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<v Speaker 2>Himself, just funny and silly and having a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did that on The Great gut Field Show

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<v Speaker 2>last night too, and I thought, I thought, boy, if

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<v Speaker 2>women across America could see this side of him and

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation with him like the hosts were, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they would feel very differently about what they're hearing

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<v Speaker 2>from the mainstream media, the left leaning media that does

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<v Speaker 2>not want you seeing any good side of Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Did you watch Gutfield last night?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Kelly and I both watched the whole thing on

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<v Speaker 4>our own and came up with a bunch of these clips.

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<v Speaker 7>Here, So spin the wheel whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll play it like I think I wanted you to

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<v Speaker 2>play number nineteen, where he's talking about a certain woman

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<v Speaker 2>who helped save his life or find the person who

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<v Speaker 8>And it was really great work again by secret service

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<v Speaker 8>and a woman who saw somebody running and running for

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<v Speaker 8>agents started shooting at him. Didn't do any talking, said,

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<v Speaker 8>just that's a barrel of a gun started shooting, which

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<v Speaker 8>was amazing that he saw it. And then he started shooting.

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<v Speaker 8>And so this man is running to the car and

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<v Speaker 8>a woman is a woman. Of course, woman's always a woman, right.

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<v Speaker 7>We found, Well, but we'll think about them. How smart?

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<v Speaker 3>Who would do this?

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<v Speaker 8>She sees somebody running and she didn't like the way

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<v Speaker 8>he looked. He looked very suspicious, and followed him and

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<v Speaker 8>took the car, parked it right behind his and started

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<v Speaker 8>taking pictures of the license plate.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Karen?

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<v Speaker 8>And then said, and then sent the picture to the sheriff,

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<v Speaker 8>who's great sheriff of pop Each county, and sent the

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<v Speaker 8>pictures to the sheriff's office, and they got him in

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<v Speaker 8>a high speed chase down the highway. But who would

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<v Speaker 8>do that? I mean, he said, out of a thousand incidents,

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<v Speaker 8>would that ever happen?

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<v Speaker 3>And they said, very rarely a thing like that.

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<v Speaker 8>So she's very much of a heroin, right, heroin?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I think Trump spen surrounded by strong women

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<v Speaker 2>his whole career, his whole life. He's been married to

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of them. I mean, Milania is a very strong, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>articulate woman.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she speaks five languages or something crazy like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But he also hired the very first woman campaign manager

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<v Speaker 2>that was able to get a president across the finish line,

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly and Conway and Kelly Ann Boy. She took control

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<v Speaker 2>of that race and drove it home and has been

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<v Speaker 2>a force in politics since then. And of course his

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<v Speaker 2>press spokesperson was Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who's now the governor

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<v Speaker 2>of Arkansas. Fantastic Republican woman who's doing all the right

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<v Speaker 2>things in Arkansas to turn that state into one of

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<v Speaker 2>the gems in this country. They're really really making a

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic difference there, especially on school choice and education. Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>Huckeby Sanders is doing a fantastic job. And the list

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<v Speaker 2>goes on. I mean, I think that one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cracked me up was when Brittany Mahomes recently

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<v Speaker 2>liked one of Donald Trump's tweets, and of course Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>it started kind of this thing like our Brittany Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>and Taylor's Swift at war with each other. But yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>on the View, I think you have this clip. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, you got to play this Ryan, It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 9>So your initial point, I know you said we weren't

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<v Speaker 9>going to talk about it, but I was.

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<v Speaker 10>It just seems to me that since she is in.

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<v Speaker 9>An interracial marriage, she should have known that to support

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<v Speaker 9>a racist is problematic. Her children are are biracial, and

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<v Speaker 9>her family is one of the families that in the

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<v Speaker 9>seventies could not have lived in any of Donald Trump's buildings.

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<v Speaker 10>So it just seems to me that maybe she's just

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<v Speaker 10>not that politically savvy, or maybe she's just not read it.

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<v Speaker 9>Granted, but all we know is that she liked a

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know she hasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Supported him, but that's fair to interpret.

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<v Speaker 3>That she may have, but we don't know that she's

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<v Speaker 3>a supporter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe Brittany wants women to have safety, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she wants us to have a strong military, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>up in a safe America.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, give me a break.

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<v Speaker 2>That just is so demeaning to women that we're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to have a different opinion from her, or it's

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<v Speaker 2>all about race, it's all about us being naive or

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<v Speaker 2>unsophisticated or uneducated. Nothing could be further than the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>And it takes a lot right now for women to

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<v Speaker 2>stand up and outwardly support Donald Trump and be a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican because we get so much flack. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think we've got to we've got to be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit conscientious about bringing the suburban women into

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<v Speaker 2>our party and playing you know a little bit ah,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I say this, Just getting our softer side

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<v Speaker 2>out there about why we support and why we believe

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<v Speaker 2>in his policies. And I think Nicole Shanahan is doing

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<v Speaker 2>a fantastic job of that with her Make American Healthy

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<v Speaker 2>Again mantra with Robert Kennedy Junior. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that after the break, and then at four

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five we'll have Jennifer say, come on and join

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation about women and their role in the election

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<v Speaker 2>of Donald Trump, because I do think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a force in that. But let's go to break.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Heidi Ganall hosting for Dan Kapls.

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<v Speaker 7>And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Heidi Ganall filling in for Dan Caples. So happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be here with you this afternoon, and we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>all things women in politics, specifically women in the upcoming.

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<v Speaker 3>Election, and how on earth could.

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<v Speaker 2>We as women be Republicans and support Donald Trump President

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a great quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember if this was on Gufelder one of

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<v Speaker 2>the other shows. I think women living in the suburbs,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, Why wouldn't they like me?

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of fake polls.

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<v Speaker 3>God was punishing me in twenty twenty when.

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<v Speaker 2>Across my road was a large pink women for Trump

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<v Speaker 2>in the world would any woman love Donald J. Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>Why was I taking it personally?

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<v Speaker 2>After all, the pink flag was not a personal betrayal.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what it's like out there, Ryan, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like being a conservative. Women were like a specimen

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<v Speaker 2>that people have to examine, Like, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes on to say that women who love and

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<v Speaker 2>of the women who admire Trump are psychologically identified with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that means, but it's bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just because we like his policies. Maybe it's because,

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<v Speaker 2>like we were talking about earlier, he just makes us

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<v Speaker 2>situation in the world of our economy, and that things

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty good for four years under President Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is a lot of women vote in elections.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, says here, ten million more women are registered

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of them turn out to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's weird is in a recent poll, only fifty

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, like a lot of the younger women are

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<v Speaker 3>And then older women show up big time.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety one percent of women age sixty five and older

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<v Speaker 2>are registered and they skew fifty seven to forty two Republican,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a big win for us in the GOP.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got some interesting trends there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They make it seem on the news like all women

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<v Speaker 2>across America vote Democrat. That's not accurate at all. So

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<v Speaker 2>So I you know, I think it's a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of the race. But do I think it's the end

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<v Speaker 2>all bl and going to decide the election. No, I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you look at the number of men also

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<v Speaker 2>in droves. What's your take on all of this in

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<v Speaker 2>the whole demographic analysis. Ryan, how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 4>It's incredibly important, especially as you mentioned that kind of

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<v Speaker 7>They may be torn.

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<v Speaker 4>For instance, they may be very pro choice when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to the abortion issue, but they're very anti transing

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's girls or women's or be in locker rooms

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<v Speaker 4>are the same. And I think there are a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of maybe center left or center or even center right

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<v Speaker 3>They just are for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 4>But for the two topics I just stated, they're torn,

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<v Speaker 4>and how they come down in this vote, I think

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<v Speaker 4>winner of this election.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a great point. And I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>Information across the spectrum today when I was researching this,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what are they really voting on?

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<v Speaker 2>All of us think it's abortion and that's the only issue,

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<v Speaker 2>but actually abortion was number seven down the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, So the economy was.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, healthcare was number two, cost of housing number three,

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it can be overstated and oversimplified and overdistilled.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think it's insulting to women to reduce.

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<v Speaker 4>Them to that one issue about whether or not they

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<v Speaker 4>can keep a pregnancy, and that's all they care about.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's all Kamala Harris has campaigning on when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to women, that's it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a solo issue.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'll tell you, Heidi, more than I care to admit,

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<v Speaker 4>there are women that I know that that is their issue.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a past fail grade. They vote Democrat no matter

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<v Speaker 4>what because of it. And I can't understand it personally,

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm a man, So what am I supposed to sing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there's some good data out there that

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<v Speaker 2>and I wrote about it in Rocky Mountain Voice last week,

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<v Speaker 2>was when Kama Harris said that nowhere in America is

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<v Speaker 2>a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for

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<v Speaker 2>an abortion that is not an abortion, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not happening. She said, it's absolutely not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, guess what it's happening right here in Colorado. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote about doctor Warren hurd Uve bin Boulder, who

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<v Speaker 2>has performed over forty thousand abortions since nineteen seventy five,

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<v Speaker 3>The road in Boulder, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And not to mention, Jared Poulis, our governor, just signed

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<v Speaker 2>the Reproductive Health Act Equity Act into law in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two which permits abortion for any reason in Colorado at

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<v Speaker 2>any stage of pregnancy. And they are now trying to

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<v Speaker 2>memorialize that at the ballot box in just a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks with a constitutional amendment. And they're also going to

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for abortions, which most women in Colorado. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that they know that, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that women in Colorado understand that we are one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most extreme abortion How do I say this, one

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<v Speaker 2>to abortion, and I just I think we need to

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<v Speaker 2>talk more about the reality of what's happening here in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado in the third trimester, and that late term abortion

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<v Speaker 2>is not just some you know once in a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>It happens, and that's the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens quite often, especially here in Colorado, because women

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<v Speaker 2>come here to get it, which is really disturbing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's going to play in the election

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, maybe in Colorado without on the ballot box,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. This is Heidi Ganall I'm hosting for Dan Caplis.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up next, we'll have Jennifer Say on the show

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<v Speaker 2>to talk more about.

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<v Speaker 3>Women and the election.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to The Dan Caplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Heidi Ganaal filling in for Dan Caplis, and

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<v Speaker 2>boy do we have one of the best joining us now,

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Say. Who is She grew up as a gymnastics

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<v Speaker 2>champion and then worked her way up at Levi's and

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<v Speaker 2>was very, very powerful and ready to take over I

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<v Speaker 2>think leadership there when she stood up for kids and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the schools were being closed down in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. There wasn't right and got sideways with Levi's

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<v Speaker 2>and now I think it's led her loose, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the badass women warriors fighting for women's rights

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<v Speaker 2>across America.

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<v Speaker 6>Jen, you there, I'm here, Hi, Heidi.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, How you doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing great? How are you chat with you?

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<v Speaker 1>You too?

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<v Speaker 3>Boy? Jen?

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<v Speaker 2>I am so proud to be your friend. You're You're

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<v Speaker 2>just you're speaking for so many of us out there

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<v Speaker 2>on the airwaves, and I want you to tell folks

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about what you're up to with your

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<v Speaker 2>coming documentary with your XXXY Athletics company.

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<v Speaker 3>It just got a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I might sometimes I think too much. I fight

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<v Speaker 6>off a little more than I could chew. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 6>you know what.

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<v Speaker 11>That feels like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, two big, two big things happening for me right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Five months ago, actually almost six, not quite six months ago,

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<v Speaker 6>I watched my own brand called xx x Y Athletics.

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<v Speaker 6>We are the only athletic brand that's standing up for

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<v Speaker 6>the protection of women's sports. It's that simple. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>after I left Levi's, I started to interview and it

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<v Speaker 6>became clear very quickly that no one was going to

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<v Speaker 3>To do that.

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<v Speaker 6>And so I looked around at all the athletics brands,

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<v Speaker 6>and I mean I was embarrassed for them. Frankly, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they claim they pretend to champion women athletes, female athletes,

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<v Speaker 6>deserve our own sports. So I thought, who better than

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<v Speaker 6>me to start my own brands? I know brands. I

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<v Speaker 6>was in a weak athlete, as you mentioned, a gymnast,

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<v Speaker 6>perhaps inconvenience. So I started this brand a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 6>It's going really well. We do, I mean, startups are

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<v Speaker 6>to normalize standing up for women and girls, because the

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<v Speaker 6>act is most people agree with us, but they're too

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<v Speaker 6>afraid to stand up and say it because you get

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<v Speaker 6>smeared as the biggest But I think if we can

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<v Speaker 6>make really amazing products, and we can just sort of

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<v Speaker 6>okay we can stand up for ourselves. Then I think

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<v Speaker 6>checks out the brand a xx that xy Athletics dot com.

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<v Speaker 6>We have a lot of amazing products. Is non gimmicks.

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<v Speaker 6>We make world class products. You can put your Nike side,

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<v Speaker 6>your Nike leggings aside and tryouds. And then I have

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<v Speaker 6>a movie, a documentary called Generation COVID that is almost

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's fantastic. Don When do you think the movie

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<v Speaker 3>is coming out? Do you know yet?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. It's almost done, and I'm in the

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm working on the distribution. I want wide, broad,

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<v Speaker 6>mainstream distribution. Everybody needs to see this movie. People may

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<v Speaker 6>be hear here directly from the kids themselves what they experience.

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody's done that, and so you know, it's a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of politicians arguing with each other and we're not listening

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<v Speaker 6>to what actually happened to children. And families across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like the media, the late liberal media,

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<v Speaker 2>has memory hold that whole, like that whole conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to our kids. Yet us as moms, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have four kids, I have four kids.

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<v Speaker 3>We're living it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still living with the consequences of all those terrible decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>And even in Colorado they made terrible decisions about closing

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<v Speaker 2>the schools. And one thing that drives me nuts is

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<v Speaker 2>we veer towards what about women and politics? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>they talk so much about choice, and during COVID, polists

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<v Speaker 2>and so many other governors and all the Democrat politicians

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<v Speaker 2>mandated that women get the vaccination and fired them if

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't do it women healthcare workers especially, How does

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<v Speaker 2>that jive?

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<v Speaker 1>It does?

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<v Speaker 6>It's wildly inconsistent, But nobody cares. They have their sound

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<v Speaker 6>bites and their talking points, and I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Why is no one I don't understand why this is

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<v Speaker 6>not a topic in this election. The fact that our

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<v Speaker 6>kids are struggling, they're still far far behind from the

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<v Speaker 6>learning loss that happened during COVID. Absolute te rates chronic

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<v Speaker 6>abstantism is twice what it was before COVID, And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I watched the debate from start to finish, and there

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't a single question asked about what are we going

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<v Speaker 6>to do about our kids that are continuing to struggle

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<v Speaker 6>and suffer? And you know, disappointingly, it wasn't It doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>matter if the questions ask talk about it. Well, the

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<v Speaker 6>Democrats don't want to talk about it because the Democrats

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<v Speaker 6>kept schools closed for nineteen months in deep blue states.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I left California. Now I came here, and

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<v Speaker 6>you're right, this wasn't perfect, but I will tell you

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<v Speaker 6>it was a lot better than California. There was not

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<v Speaker 6>a single open in California. What private schools were There

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<v Speaker 6>was not a single public school opening California until September

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one. I mean, it's horrible. And how this

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<v Speaker 6>isn't a primary topic of conversation in this campaign season,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't really understand. And I was actually disappointed that

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<v Speaker 6>that Trump didn't raise it. He doesn't need to be

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<v Speaker 6>asked the question to speak to it. You know, he

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<v Speaker 6>advocated for open schools in the summer of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 6>which almost guaranteed they wouldn't open in blue states, but

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<v Speaker 6>he was on the right side of that issue, and

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<v Speaker 6>he should have spoken to it. I think I thought

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<v Speaker 6>that was a missed opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jen, maybe we can clip this interview and tag

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<v Speaker 2>him and see if he won't start talking about it more,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he has a real opportunity to bring

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<v Speaker 2>more women his way. And one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>chatted about earlier in the show was Nicole Shanahan and

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<v Speaker 2>this whole movement towards make America healthy again, and I

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<v Speaker 2>I truly believe this is one of the key ways

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to connect with women because all of us

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<v Speaker 2>moms are really thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard about the health issues.

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<v Speaker 2>The environmental issues, the pharmaceutical industry, vaccinations, all those things

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<v Speaker 2>that are affecting our children so deeply. And Nicole had

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<v Speaker 2>a daughter, She has a daughter who was diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 2>autism at the age of eighteen months and was she

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<v Speaker 2>got all the regular vaccinations at seven months and was

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<v Speaker 2>a totally you know, normal kid, meeting all the milestones

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<v Speaker 2>and was a completely different kid within a few months

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<v Speaker 2>of that. But Nichole's got a great story and she

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<v Speaker 2>admits she was a total progressive and now here she

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<v Speaker 2>is wearing her MAGA hat and shouting from the rooftops

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump is the right one to check the box for.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I mean, look, it's just I mean, I'm not born.

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<v Speaker 6>I like Nicole was a progressive. I would have called

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<v Speaker 6>myself left and left of center, but COVID really changed

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<v Speaker 6>everything for me. I am radicalized for school choice. For instance,

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<v Speaker 6>my kids here in Denver both go to a public

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<v Speaker 6>charter school. We're very happy there. You know. That's what

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<v Speaker 6>kind of changed my way of thinking. But somehow, through

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<v Speaker 6>marketing and tagline, the DEMS have sort of positioned themselves

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<v Speaker 6>as the party that is for women. Well, I myself

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<v Speaker 6>will not vote for someone who does my two issues

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<v Speaker 6>our free speech, and you've got to know what a

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<v Speaker 6>woman is, because how can you protect a woman's rights

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<v Speaker 6>if you can't even name a woman. If you think

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<v Speaker 6>men can be women, then you aren't protecting Title nine

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<v Speaker 6>and women's rights. I also wish he'd brought up Title

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<v Speaker 6>nine and the egregious horrific rewrights that the Biden administration did,

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<v Speaker 6>which basically erased women's sex base rights in the education system.

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<v Speaker 6>And I have every base that if Trump wins, he

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<v Speaker 6>would reverse that horrible rewrite and put the original title

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<v Speaker 6>line back in place, and I wish he would have

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<v Speaker 6>said that. As you well know, the DEM's position themselves

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<v Speaker 6>is the party that is sort of more pro woman,

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<v Speaker 6>and they've effected somewhat effectively. You know, they keep lying,

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<v Speaker 6>and they keep saying, for instance, that you know Trump

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<v Speaker 6>and Vans are going to outlaw Yep, they've said the opposite.

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<v Speaker 6>They've said the exact opposite. They haven't said that, and

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<v Speaker 6>so I don't know that. I think the Republicans and

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<v Speaker 6>Trump have an opportunity to message better here because you're

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<v Speaker 6>right on a lot of issues that women care about,

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<v Speaker 6>school choice being one an education for our kids, more broadly,

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<v Speaker 6>being too bodily autonomy when it comes to medication and vaccine.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I lean that way, you know I will

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<v Speaker 6>lean that way, and I think we can't let them

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<v Speaker 6>have the they can't own that. You know, we're the

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<v Speaker 6>party that's for women.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be willing to stay on and talk more

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<v Speaker 2>about this, because I think branding our brand, our Republican brand,

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<v Speaker 2>is so important to nail down right now and talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to have you.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is Heidi Ganol with Dan Kaplis, Jen and

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<v Speaker 2>I will be right.

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<v Speaker 3>Back after the break.

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<v Speaker 7>And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Heidie Gannall filling in for Dan Kaplis with my

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<v Speaker 2>special guest Jennifer Say, Jennifer, we were just digging into

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<v Speaker 2>branding and the Republican Party and you are.

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<v Speaker 3>A branding guru. That's you're so talented. From that perspective, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you do if you took over the GOP the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Party and had to basically refresh the brand?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my goodness, you know what, that's a hard question.

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<v Speaker 6>I would want to think about it. I actually thought

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<v Speaker 6>watching the convention, they did a really good job on that.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that they came across as a big tent.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that having younger speakers, more diverse speakers, speakers

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<v Speaker 6>like Bert Rose, who I know, some conservative that we're

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<v Speaker 6>critical of, but I feel like, as someone you know,

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<v Speaker 6>who spent my life on the left, having her there

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<v Speaker 6>and explaining how she had changed her mind, it gives

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<v Speaker 6>permission to other people to change their mind. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was really well done. I really did.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought it was really well done. And so I

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<v Speaker 6>think it's just more of that. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 6>we need to I'm not a register Republican. I'll just

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<v Speaker 6>say that, I'm a sorry, I'm a REDID. They need

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<v Speaker 6>to just keep doing that, you know that they need that.

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<v Speaker 6>The Democrats pretend they are the big tent party, but

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<v Speaker 6>time and time again they show that that is not

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<v Speaker 6>the case. There is no diversity of the thought welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't even let the people pick the candidate. Like,

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<v Speaker 6>how is that open and democratic and welcoming? You know,

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<v Speaker 6>you can only think one way. And I think that

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<v Speaker 6>that is what I would this on if I were

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<v Speaker 6>in charge of branding, is how do we kind of

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<v Speaker 6>open our arms welcome, welcome everyone, We welcome diversity of thoughts.

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<v Speaker 6>We champion freedom and individual liberty. That's what's important. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>for me, if I was going to vote based on

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<v Speaker 6>one thing, it would be who do I believe is

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<v Speaker 6>going to protect my right to free speech? If I

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<v Speaker 6>had to prioritize one thing over anything else, And both

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<v Speaker 6>Trump and Vance have spoken to that, I think quite

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<v Speaker 6>eloquently in the last week. Really and again I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was a bit of a missed opportunity not to

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<v Speaker 6>talk about it in the debate, But like that's a winner,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, yeah, And I think that's hammer at home.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why Elon Musk is so on board with Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's literally wearing his Maga hat online, it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, And what I really liked about the convention

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<v Speaker 2>was the everyday Americans theme. And I was there and

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<v Speaker 2>just the sprinkling of real Americans telling their stories, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them women and moms, was so impactful and

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<v Speaker 2>it just was very meaningful. We have a caller that

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<v Speaker 2>would like to join our conversation and ask a question

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<v Speaker 2>about abortion.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big issue in the Republican Party about how

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mary, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, I have two things to say, and I better

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<v Speaker 11>be quick. It looks like on the polling there are

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of people that would not answer a survey

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<v Speaker 11>for the door or anything else that they don't want

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<v Speaker 11>to be hassled.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great point, Mary.

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<v Speaker 11>Don't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the polling is all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to tell what's going on. Pulling wise,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Real Clear Politics average has come all up

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<v Speaker 2>one point nine. But Trump is favored on all the issues,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is.

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<v Speaker 3>More meaningful in a way. But great comment. Mary, what

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<v Speaker 3>was your other comment?

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<v Speaker 11>My other comment was I watched online an abortion doctor

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<v Speaker 11>explain exactly what happened and how it's done, and I

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<v Speaker 11>don't think most people have any idea. And I'll we

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<v Speaker 11>have to use the vacuum and suck the baby out

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<v Speaker 11>and shout all the arms and legs on the table

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<v Speaker 11>and make sure they have all the parts first semester

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<v Speaker 11>for first three of fields.

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<v Speaker 3>It's better, it's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary, Yeah, I think I think that's going around a

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<v Speaker 2>lot online, people talking about the realities of the procedure,

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<v Speaker 2>especially late term abortion, which in Colorado is legal up

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<v Speaker 2>up until birth. So thank you for your call, Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it. And Jen, what's your take on

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<v Speaker 2>how we navigate the pro choice pro life conversation because

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<v Speaker 2>it's such an important one in the conservative movement.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh boy, that's a sticky, wicked I'm asking you.

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<v Speaker 3>Some tough questions today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to have you on it and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to tap into your expertise.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I believe that, and I might be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 6>the polls that I have seen show that something around

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<v Speaker 6>seventy percent of Americans our choice with restrictions. I think

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<v Speaker 6>reasonable people. I think making abortion completely illegal is a loser. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 6>I apologize to my friends to our pro life I

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<v Speaker 6>think politically that is not a winning position, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think Trump has stated his position clearly, which is leave

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<v Speaker 6>it to the states, which I tend to agree with.

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<v Speaker 6>Somehow the Democrats are lying about what his position is,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's like sticking and so I think he needs

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<v Speaker 6>to just keep saying it over and over. He has

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<v Speaker 6>said explicitly he is not for a national abortion band. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>there may be someone the right that are opposed to

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<v Speaker 6>him saying that, but he has said it explicitly. He

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<v Speaker 6>has said explicitly this is a tangential but related issue,

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<v Speaker 6>that he is supportive of IVF. And yet somehow Harris

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<v Speaker 6>and Walls are out there saying he would ban IVS

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<v Speaker 6>and he would enact a national abortion ban, and those

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<v Speaker 6>are both unpopular positions nationally. A national abortion ban and

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<v Speaker 6>banning IVS and IVF is essentially, I think, as someone

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<v Speaker 6>who's gone through it, a very.

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<v Speaker 11>Polite position.

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<v Speaker 6>In a sense, I think there should be more regulation

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<v Speaker 6>around the industry. I think there's a lot of weirdness

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<v Speaker 6>that happens but I don't know. I was older and

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<v Speaker 6>I met my husband, and we wanted to have kids

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<v Speaker 6>and we couldn't. And I feel really blessed that I

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<v Speaker 6>was able to do that and I had these two amazing,

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<v Speaker 6>beautiful children.

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<v Speaker 3>Well me too, Jen. We've got to wrap up.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to wrap up, and I'm sorry for asking

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<v Speaker 2>you these tough questions, but you've done a fabulous job

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm so blessed to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for all you do. This is Heidi Ganal on

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Kaplas Show. Thanks Jan will see you soon.