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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, this is not Dan Kaplis. This is Heidigena
Speaker 2: filling in for Dan. I believe he's stuck in a
Speaker 2: trial today and he may join us in the second hour.
Speaker 2: Super excited to be here today, Ryan, I'm going to
Speaker 2: have some fun today and talk about women in politics,
Speaker 2: specifically Republican women, and how on earth we can support
Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: I like it because there's a turning point here and
Speaker 4: we've seen it a lot with yourself running as the
Speaker 4: nominee for the Republican Party as the candidate for governor
Speaker 4: against Jared Polis, who, I might add, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: is one of the most anti woman governors that we've
Speaker 4: ever had, and his comments continue to follow along those lines.
Speaker 4: But you're absolutely right the lot of up and coming
Speaker 4: and establish strong Republican women in politics that really get
Speaker 4: overlooked by the mainstream media.
Speaker 2: I agree, and you know, I know a lot of them,
Speaker 2: and I know we all face a lot of the
Speaker 2: same comments and ridicule and questioning by some of our
Speaker 2: liberal friends and the liberal media. Uh, you know, because
Speaker 2: a lot of the traditional women's issues are seen as
Speaker 2: on the Democrat side, where I think it's shifting. I
Speaker 2: truly think it's starting to shift. So today I want
Speaker 2: to dig into some of those issues and talk about
Speaker 2: what it means for the election in a few weeks.
Speaker 2: So if we look back President Biden in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: he won by He won fifty percent of suburban voters
Speaker 2: and fifty seven percent of female voters.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 2: He beat Trump by two percentage points in the former
Speaker 2: category of fifteen percentage points in the latter group. So
Speaker 2: with women, I think it's going to be a little
Speaker 2: bit different this time, even though we have a woman candidate.
Speaker 2: And the reason I think that is that a lot
Speaker 2: of people, a lot of women, are waking up to
Speaker 2: how extreme the Democrats' views are an abortion. I think
Speaker 2: they're waking up to how freedom loving and advocating we
Speaker 2: are for them on health issues, health freedom issues specifically.
Speaker 2: And we'll talk a little bit about Nicole Shanahan, who
Speaker 2: was Robert Kennedy's VP pick who's come out strong for Trump?
Speaker 3: And then I also think that some of the.
Speaker 2: Issues we're facing right now really affect women. If you
Speaker 2: think about it, women care about being safe. They want
Speaker 2: their family to be safe, they want to earn a
Speaker 2: good income, and they want to see their neighborhoods healthy
Speaker 2: and strong. They don't want a lot of crime. So
Speaker 2: a lot of these issues are going to trend more.
Speaker 3: Women to pick Trump.
Speaker 2: The in the know, the secrecy of their ballot picking,
Speaker 2: I think maybe they don't say it out loud, but
Speaker 2: I think when the numbers come out afterwards, we're going
Speaker 2: to see a shocking surprising number of women that voted
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump versus in the last couple elections.
Speaker 3: What's your take on that? Oops, I think Ryan's busy, right.
Speaker 3: Can you provide a definition for the word woman?
Speaker 5: Can I provide a definition?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 6: You can't.
Speaker 5: Not akay context, I'm not a biology of the.
Speaker 1: Word woman is so unclear and controversial that you can't
Speaker 1: give me a definition, Senator.
Speaker 5: In my work as a judge, what I do is
Speaker 5: I address dispute. If there's a dispute about a definition,
Speaker 5: people make arguments and I look at the law and
Speaker 5: I decide.
Speaker 2: So that was Marcia Blackburn the Tennessee Center asking Kaitanji
Speaker 2: Brown Jackson during her twenty two Supreme Court confirmation hearings
Speaker 2: could she provide a definition.
Speaker 3: For the word woman? And she danced around it.
Speaker 2: She couldn't really come up with an answer, and she
Speaker 2: ended up noting that she was not a biologist. And
Speaker 2: I thought that was hilarious. I'm like, you don't need
Speaker 2: to be a biologist, especially if you're a woman, to
Speaker 2: know that you're a woman. But that's the crazy society
Speaker 2: that we live in right now. And recently I read
Speaker 2: an article that just made me chuckle. Its title was
Speaker 2: it was a New York magazine article and it said
Speaker 2: the baffling contradictory demands of being female in the Party
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. And I thought, well, that clip kind
Speaker 2: of says it all. I'm sorry, Ryan, and I wasn't
Speaker 2: where you were playing the clip when I was like.
Speaker 3: Where are you talk to me?
Speaker 2: But I think it just kind of encapsulates everything that's
Speaker 2: going on right now with this scratching of the head,
Speaker 2: like how come Donald Trump's making such inroads with women
Speaker 2: across America, and we talked a little bit about his
Speaker 2: appearance last night at the rally and how kind of
Speaker 2: Lucy was and how comfortable he seemed in New York.
Speaker 3: He showed the softer side of.
Speaker 2: Himself, just funny and silly and having a good time.
Speaker 2: And he did that on The Great gut Field Show
Speaker 2: last night too, and I thought, I thought, boy, if
Speaker 2: women across America could see this side of him and
Speaker 2: have a conversation with him like the hosts were, I
Speaker 2: think they would feel very differently about what they're hearing
Speaker 2: from the mainstream media, the left leaning media that does
Speaker 2: not want you seeing any good side of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Did you watch Gutfield last night?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kelly and I both watched the whole thing on
Speaker 4: our own and came up with a bunch of these clips.
Speaker 7: Here, So spin the wheel whatever you want.
Speaker 2: I'll play it like I think I wanted you to
Speaker 2: play number nineteen, where he's talking about a certain woman
Speaker 2: who helped save his life or find the person who
Speaker 2: tried to take his life.
Speaker 8: And it was really great work again by secret service
Speaker 8: and a woman who saw somebody running and running for
Speaker 8: the car because he was caught and the Secret Service
Speaker 8: agents started shooting at him. Didn't do any talking, said,
Speaker 8: just that's a barrel of a gun started shooting, which
Speaker 8: was amazing that he saw it. And then he started shooting.
Speaker 8: And so this man is running to the car and
Speaker 8: a woman is a woman. Of course, woman's always a woman, right.
Speaker 7: We found, Well, but we'll think about them. How smart?
Speaker 3: Who would do this?
Speaker 8: She sees somebody running and she didn't like the way
Speaker 8: he looked. He looked very suspicious, and followed him and
Speaker 8: took the car, parked it right behind his and started
Speaker 8: taking pictures of the license plate.
Speaker 3: Who would do that?
Speaker 1: Karen?
Speaker 8: And then said, and then sent the picture to the sheriff,
Speaker 8: who's great sheriff of pop Each county, and sent the
Speaker 8: pictures to the sheriff's office, and they got him in
Speaker 8: a high speed chase down the highway. But who would
Speaker 8: do that? I mean, he said, out of a thousand incidents,
Speaker 8: would that ever happen?
Speaker 3: And they said, very rarely a thing like that.
Speaker 8: So she's very much of a heroin, right, heroin?
Speaker 2: You know? I think Trump spen surrounded by strong women
Speaker 2: his whole career, his whole life. He's been married to
Speaker 2: a couple of them. I mean, Milania is a very strong, beautiful,
Speaker 2: articulate woman.
Speaker 3: I think she speaks five languages or something crazy like that.
Speaker 2: But he also hired the very first woman campaign manager
Speaker 2: that was able to get a president across the finish line,
Speaker 2: Kelly and Conway and Kelly Ann Boy. She took control
Speaker 2: of that race and drove it home and has been
Speaker 2: a force in politics since then. And of course his
Speaker 2: press spokesperson was Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who's now the governor
Speaker 2: of Arkansas. Fantastic Republican woman who's doing all the right
Speaker 2: things in Arkansas to turn that state into one of
Speaker 2: the gems in this country. They're really really making a
Speaker 2: dramatic difference there, especially on school choice and education. Sarah
Speaker 2: Huckeby Sanders is doing a fantastic job. And the list
Speaker 2: goes on. I mean, I think that one thing that
Speaker 2: kind of cracked me up was when Brittany Mahomes recently
Speaker 2: liked one of Donald Trump's tweets, and of course Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift had come out and endorsed Kamala Harris, and so
Speaker 2: it started kind of this thing like our Brittany Mahomes
Speaker 2: and Taylor's Swift at war with each other. But yesterday
Speaker 2: on the View, I think you have this clip. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, you got to play this Ryan, It's terrible.
Speaker 9: So your initial point, I know you said we weren't
Speaker 9: going to talk about it, but I was.
Speaker 10: It just seems to me that since she is in.
Speaker 9: An interracial marriage, she should have known that to support
Speaker 9: a racist is problematic. Her children are are biracial, and
Speaker 9: her family is one of the families that in the
Speaker 9: seventies could not have lived in any of Donald Trump's buildings.
Speaker 10: So it just seems to me that maybe she's just
Speaker 10: not that politically savvy, or maybe she's just not read it.
Speaker 9: Granted, but all we know is that she liked a
Speaker 9: Trump post.
Speaker 3: We don't know she hasn't.
Speaker 6: Supported him, but that's fair to interpret.
Speaker 3: That she may have, but we don't know that she's
Speaker 3: a supporter.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe Brittany wants women to have safety, and maybe
Speaker 2: she wants us to have a strong military, and maybe
Speaker 2: she wants us to have a strong police force and
Speaker 2: be protected in her home and have her kids grow
Speaker 2: up in a safe America.
Speaker 3: I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 2: That just is so demeaning to women that we're not
Speaker 2: allowed to have a different opinion from her, or it's
Speaker 2: all about race, it's all about us being naive or
Speaker 2: unsophisticated or uneducated. Nothing could be further than the truth.
Speaker 2: And it takes a lot right now for women to
Speaker 2: stand up and outwardly support Donald Trump and be a
Speaker 2: Republican because we get so much flack. And you know,
Speaker 2: I do think we've got to we've got to be
Speaker 2: a little bit conscientious about bringing the suburban women into
Speaker 2: our party and playing you know a little bit ah,
Speaker 2: how do I say this, Just getting our softer side
Speaker 2: out there about why we support and why we believe
Speaker 2: in his policies. And I think Nicole Shanahan is doing
Speaker 2: a fantastic job of that with her Make American Healthy
Speaker 2: Again mantra with Robert Kennedy Junior. And we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about that after the break, and then at four
Speaker 2: thirty five we'll have Jennifer say, come on and join
Speaker 2: the conversation about women and their role in the election
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, because I do think they're going to
Speaker 2: be a force in that. But let's go to break.
Speaker 2: This is Heidi Ganall hosting for Dan Kapls.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2: It's Heidi Ganall filling in for Dan Caples. So happy
Speaker 2: to be here with you this afternoon, and we're talking
Speaker 2: all things women in politics, specifically women in the upcoming.
Speaker 3: Election, and how on earth could.
Speaker 2: We as women be Republicans and support Donald Trump President
Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: He had a great quote.
Speaker 2: I can't remember if this was on Gufelder one of
Speaker 2: the other shows. I think women living in the suburbs,
Speaker 2: he says, Why wouldn't they like me?
Speaker 3: I keep the suburbs safe.
Speaker 2: I stop low income towers from rising right along their house,
Speaker 2: and I'm keeping the illegal ilate aliens away from the suburbs.
Speaker 3: I think that they like me a lot. I think
Speaker 3: it's a lot of fake polls.
Speaker 2: Trump says, well, as I was doing a little research
Speaker 2: for the show today, I came across this wild article
Speaker 2: written by a very liberal journalist who says, I was
Speaker 2: sure that.
Speaker 3: God was punishing me in twenty twenty when.
Speaker 2: Across my road was a large pink women for Trump
Speaker 2: flag waving in the breeze on a high pole. Why
Speaker 2: in the world would any woman love Donald J. Trump,
Speaker 2: a liar and dishonorable bully. Why would any man with integrity,
Speaker 2: not reject him as unfit and a flawed leader.
Speaker 3: Why was I taking it personally?
Speaker 2: After all, the pink flag was not a personal betrayal.
Speaker 2: But that's what it's like out there, Ryan, That's what
Speaker 2: it's like being a conservative. Women were like a specimen
Speaker 2: that people have to examine, Like, what's.
Speaker 4: Going to something wrong with you? That's right, what is
Speaker 4: your defect? The island of miss fit toys.
Speaker 2: She goes on to say that women who love and
Speaker 2: support Trump have usually grown up with men who they
Speaker 2: perceive to be real men, and they often become a partner, spouse,
Speaker 2: or employee if someone perceived as powerful, and that many
Speaker 2: of the women who admire Trump are psychologically identified with him.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means, but it's bizarre.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just because we like his policies. Maybe it's because,
Speaker 2: like we were talking about earlier, he just makes us
Speaker 2: feel like he's got control of the country, of the
Speaker 2: situation in the world of our economy, and that things
Speaker 2: were pretty good for four years under President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: But the reality is a lot of women vote in elections.
Speaker 2: In fact, says here, ten million more women are registered
Speaker 2: to vote than men in America, and you know.
Speaker 3: A lot of them turn out to vote.
Speaker 2: But what's weird is in a recent poll, only fifty
Speaker 2: six percent of women aged eighteen to twenty nine say
Speaker 2: they intend.
Speaker 3: To vote this year.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, like a lot of the younger women are
Speaker 2: not planning to vote, and of course they tend to
Speaker 2: lean more Democrat.
Speaker 3: And then older women show up big time.
Speaker 2: Ninety one percent of women age sixty five and older
Speaker 2: are registered and they skew fifty seven to forty two Republican,
Speaker 2: which is a big win for us in the GOP.
Speaker 2: So you've got some interesting trends there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: They make it seem on the news like all women
Speaker 2: across America vote Democrat. That's not accurate at all. So
Speaker 2: right now, about fifty three percent of women who are
Speaker 2: registered to vote lean Democrat, forty seven percent lean Republican.
Speaker 2: So I you know, I think it's a big part
Speaker 2: of the race. But do I think it's the end
Speaker 2: all bl and going to decide the election. No, I don't,
Speaker 2: because if you look at the number of men also
Speaker 2: that are voting for Trump, it's making up for that
Speaker 2: in droves. What's your take on all of this in
Speaker 2: the whole demographic analysis. Ryan, how do you feel about
Speaker 2: women's role in this upcoming election.
Speaker 4: It's incredibly important, especially as you mentioned that kind of
Speaker 4: middling group that's in the suburbs.
Speaker 7: They may be torn.
Speaker 4: For instance, they may be very pro choice when it
Speaker 4: comes to the abortion issue, but they're very anti transing
Speaker 4: the kids and having trans females compete in female sports,
Speaker 4: whether it's girls or women's or be in locker rooms
Speaker 4: are the same. And I think there are a lot
Speaker 4: of maybe center left or center or even center right
Speaker 4: female voters out there who are averse to Donald Trump personally.
Speaker 3: They just are for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: But for the two topics I just stated, they're torn,
Speaker 4: and how they come down in this vote, I think
Speaker 4: is going to go a long way in determining the
Speaker 4: winner of this election.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point. And I was trying
Speaker 3: to look at.
Speaker 2: Information across the spectrum today when I was researching this,
Speaker 2: and Glamour magazine did a really big pull with YouGov
Speaker 2: in January. This shar to discover it, like what do
Speaker 2: women voters across the country care about?
Speaker 3: Like what are they really voting on?
Speaker 2: All of us think it's abortion and that's the only issue,
Speaker 2: but actually abortion was number seven down the list.
Speaker 3: Wow, So the economy was.
Speaker 2: Number one, healthcare was number two, cost of housing number three,
Speaker 2: criminal justice, then gum policy, foreign policy, then abortion.
Speaker 4: And I think it can be overstated and oversimplified and overdistilled.
Speaker 7: And I think it's insulting to women to reduce.
Speaker 4: Them to that one issue about whether or not they
Speaker 4: can keep a pregnancy, and that's all they care about.
Speaker 4: And that's all Kamala Harris has campaigning on when it
Speaker 4: comes to women, that's it.
Speaker 7: It's a solo issue.
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you, Heidi, more than I care to admit,
Speaker 4: there are women that I know that that is their issue.
Speaker 4: It's a past fail grade. They vote Democrat no matter
Speaker 4: what because of it. And I can't understand it personally,
Speaker 4: But I'm a man, So what am I supposed to sing?
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's some good data out there that
Speaker 2: says that it's more complex, it's more in the weeds
Speaker 2: than they like to make it appear. And one of
Speaker 2: the things that was shocking to me in that last debate,
Speaker 2: and I wrote about it in Rocky Mountain Voice last week,
Speaker 2: was when Kama Harris said that nowhere in America is
Speaker 2: a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for
Speaker 2: an abortion that is not an abortion, that.
Speaker 3: Is not happening. She said, it's absolutely not happening.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what it's happening right here in Colorado. And
Speaker 2: I wrote about doctor Warren hurd Uve bin Boulder, who
Speaker 2: has performed over forty thousand abortions since nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 2: most of them third trimester. He does abortions at any
Speaker 2: point in the pregnancy, and he does it right up.
Speaker 3: The road in Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 2: And not to mention, Jared Poulis, our governor, just signed
Speaker 2: the Reproductive Health Act Equity Act into law in twenty
Speaker 2: two which permits abortion for any reason in Colorado at
Speaker 2: any stage of pregnancy. And they are now trying to
Speaker 2: memorialize that at the ballot box in just a few
Speaker 2: weeks with a constitutional amendment. And they're also going to
Speaker 2: allow government funds to be able to use those funds
Speaker 2: to pay for abortions, which most women in Colorado. I
Speaker 2: don't know that they know that, And I don't know
Speaker 2: that women in Colorado understand that we are one of
Speaker 2: the most extreme abortion How do I say this, one
Speaker 2: of the most extreme states in the country for access
Speaker 2: to abortion, and I just I think we need to
Speaker 2: talk more about the reality of what's happening here in
Speaker 2: Colorado in the third trimester, and that late term abortion
Speaker 2: is not just some you know once in a you know,
Speaker 2: one in ten million women.
Speaker 3: It happens, and that's the end of the day.
Speaker 2: It happens quite often, especially here in Colorado, because women
Speaker 2: come here to get it, which is really disturbing to me.
Speaker 2: So I think that's going to play in the election
Speaker 2: a little bit, maybe in Colorado without on the ballot box,
Speaker 2: we'll see. This is Heidi Ganall I'm hosting for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll have Jennifer Say on the show
Speaker 2: to talk more about.
Speaker 3: Women and the election.
Speaker 7: You're listening to The Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: This is Heidi Ganaal filling in for Dan Caplis, and
Speaker 2: boy do we have one of the best joining us now,
Speaker 2: Jennifer Say. Who is She grew up as a gymnastics
Speaker 2: champion and then worked her way up at Levi's and
Speaker 2: was very, very powerful and ready to take over I
Speaker 2: think leadership there when she stood up for kids and
Speaker 2: the fact that the schools were being closed down in
Speaker 2: San Francisco. There wasn't right and got sideways with Levi's
Speaker 2: and now I think it's led her loose, and she's
Speaker 2: one of the badass women warriors fighting for women's rights
Speaker 2: across America.
Speaker 6: Jen, you there, I'm here, Hi, Heidi.
Speaker 3: Hi, How you doing.
Speaker 6: I'm doing great? How are you chat with you?
Speaker 1: You too?
Speaker 3: Boy? Jen?
Speaker 2: I am so proud to be your friend. You're You're
Speaker 2: just you're speaking for so many of us out there
Speaker 2: on the airwaves, and I want you to tell folks
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Speaker 3: It just got a lot going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I might sometimes I think too much. I fight
Speaker 6: off a little more than I could chew. I'm sure
Speaker 6: you know what.
Speaker 11: That feels like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, two big, two big things happening for me right now.
Speaker 6: Five months ago, actually almost six, not quite six months ago,
Speaker 6: I watched my own brand called xx x Y Athletics.
Speaker 6: We are the only athletic brand that's standing up for
Speaker 6: the protection of women's sports. It's that simple. And you know,
Speaker 6: after I left Levi's, I started to interview and it
Speaker 6: became clear very quickly that no one was going to
Speaker 6: give me a job unless I was willing to bend
Speaker 6: the knee, and I was not willing.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 6: And so I looked around at all the athletics brands,
Speaker 6: and I mean I was embarrassed for them. Frankly, you know,
Speaker 6: they claim they pretend to champion women athletes, female athletes,
Speaker 6: and not one has put a stake in the ground
Speaker 6: to say that women deserve safety, privacy and fairness. We
Speaker 6: deserve our own sports. So I thought, who better than
Speaker 6: me to start my own brands? I know brands. I
Speaker 6: was in a weak athlete, as you mentioned, a gymnast,
Speaker 6: and I am fine saying things that are true, but
Speaker 6: perhaps inconvenience. So I started this brand a few months ago.
Speaker 6: It's going really well. We do, I mean, startups are
Speaker 6: hard enough, and you know, and we have additional obstacles
Speaker 6: because we keep getting banned and censored, but people are
Speaker 6: finding us, and I think, you know, my goal is
Speaker 6: to normalize standing up for women and girls, because the
Speaker 6: act is most people agree with us, but they're too
Speaker 6: afraid to stand up and say it because you get
Speaker 6: smeared as the biggest But I think if we can
Speaker 6: make really amazing products, and we can just sort of
Speaker 6: normalize putting it out there in the culture that it's
Speaker 6: okay we can stand up for ourselves. Then I think
Speaker 6: we can we can make change. So that's the big
Speaker 6: needs in my life. And I hope everybody goes and
Speaker 6: checks out the brand a xx that xy Athletics dot com.
Speaker 6: We have a lot of amazing products. Is non gimmicks.
Speaker 6: We make world class products. You can put your Nike side,
Speaker 6: your Nike leggings aside and tryouds. And then I have
Speaker 6: a movie, a documentary called Generation COVID that is almost
Speaker 6: done that is about the harms and the impact of
Speaker 6: the long school closures to children across America.
Speaker 3: Well, that's fantastic. Don When do you think the movie
Speaker 3: is coming out? Do you know yet?
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's almost done, and I'm in the
Speaker 6: you know, I'm working on the distribution. I want wide, broad,
Speaker 6: mainstream distribution. Everybody needs to see this movie. People may
Speaker 6: be hear here directly from the kids themselves what they experience.
Speaker 6: Nobody's done that, and so you know, it's a bunch
Speaker 6: of politicians arguing with each other and we're not listening
Speaker 6: to what actually happened to children. And families across the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like the media, the late liberal media,
Speaker 2: has memory hold that whole, like that whole conversation about
Speaker 2: what happened to our kids. Yet us as moms, I know,
Speaker 2: you have four kids, I have four kids.
Speaker 3: We're living it.
Speaker 2: We're still living with the consequences of all those terrible decisions.
Speaker 2: And even in Colorado they made terrible decisions about closing
Speaker 2: the schools. And one thing that drives me nuts is
Speaker 2: we veer towards what about women and politics? Is that
Speaker 2: they talk so much about choice, and during COVID, polists
Speaker 2: and so many other governors and all the Democrat politicians
Speaker 2: mandated that women get the vaccination and fired them if
Speaker 2: they wouldn't do it women healthcare workers especially, How does
Speaker 2: that jive?
Speaker 1: It does?
Speaker 6: It's wildly inconsistent, But nobody cares. They have their sound
Speaker 6: bites and their talking points, and I agree with you.
Speaker 6: Why is no one I don't understand why this is
Speaker 6: not a topic in this election. The fact that our
Speaker 6: kids are struggling, they're still far far behind from the
Speaker 6: learning loss that happened during COVID. Absolute te rates chronic
Speaker 6: abstantism is twice what it was before COVID, And you know,
Speaker 6: I watched the debate from start to finish, and there
Speaker 6: wasn't a single question asked about what are we going
Speaker 6: to do about our kids that are continuing to struggle
Speaker 6: and suffer? And you know, disappointingly, it wasn't It doesn't
Speaker 6: matter if the questions ask talk about it. Well, the
Speaker 6: Democrats don't want to talk about it because the Democrats
Speaker 6: kept schools closed for nineteen months in deep blue states.
Speaker 6: That's why I left California. Now I came here, and
Speaker 6: you're right, this wasn't perfect, but I will tell you
Speaker 6: it was a lot better than California. There was not
Speaker 6: a single open in California. What private schools were There
Speaker 6: was not a single public school opening California until September
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. I mean, it's horrible. And how this
Speaker 6: isn't a primary topic of conversation in this campaign season,
Speaker 6: I don't really understand. And I was actually disappointed that
Speaker 6: that Trump didn't raise it. He doesn't need to be
Speaker 6: asked the question to speak to it. You know, he
Speaker 6: advocated for open schools in the summer of twenty twenty,
Speaker 6: which almost guaranteed they wouldn't open in blue states, but
Speaker 6: he was on the right side of that issue, and
Speaker 6: he should have spoken to it. I think I thought
Speaker 6: that was a missed opportunity.
Speaker 2: Well, Jen, maybe we can clip this interview and tag
Speaker 2: him and see if he won't start talking about it more,
Speaker 2: because I think he has a real opportunity to bring
Speaker 2: more women his way. And one of the things I
Speaker 2: chatted about earlier in the show was Nicole Shanahan and
Speaker 2: this whole movement towards make America healthy again, and I
Speaker 2: I truly believe this is one of the key ways
Speaker 2: we're going to connect with women because all of us
Speaker 2: moms are really thinking.
Speaker 3: Hard about the health issues.
Speaker 2: The environmental issues, the pharmaceutical industry, vaccinations, all those things
Speaker 2: that are affecting our children so deeply. And Nicole had
Speaker 2: a daughter, She has a daughter who was diagnosed with
Speaker 2: autism at the age of eighteen months and was she
Speaker 2: got all the regular vaccinations at seven months and was
Speaker 2: a totally you know, normal kid, meeting all the milestones
Speaker 2: and was a completely different kid within a few months
Speaker 2: of that. But Nichole's got a great story and she
Speaker 2: admits she was a total progressive and now here she
Speaker 2: is wearing her MAGA hat and shouting from the rooftops
Speaker 2: that Trump is the right one to check the box for.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, look, it's just I mean, I'm not born.
Speaker 6: I like Nicole was a progressive. I would have called
Speaker 6: myself left and left of center, but COVID really changed
Speaker 6: everything for me. I am radicalized for school choice. For instance,
Speaker 6: my kids here in Denver both go to a public
Speaker 6: charter school. We're very happy there. You know. That's what
Speaker 6: kind of changed my way of thinking. But somehow, through
Speaker 6: marketing and tagline, the DEMS have sort of positioned themselves
Speaker 6: as the party that is for women. Well, I myself
Speaker 6: will not vote for someone who does my two issues
Speaker 6: our free speech, and you've got to know what a
Speaker 6: woman is, because how can you protect a woman's rights
Speaker 6: if you can't even name a woman. If you think
Speaker 6: men can be women, then you aren't protecting Title nine
Speaker 6: and women's rights. I also wish he'd brought up Title
Speaker 6: nine and the egregious horrific rewrights that the Biden administration did,
Speaker 6: which basically erased women's sex base rights in the education system.
Speaker 6: And I have every base that if Trump wins, he
Speaker 6: would reverse that horrible rewrite and put the original title
Speaker 6: line back in place, and I wish he would have
Speaker 6: said that. As you well know, the DEM's position themselves
Speaker 6: is the party that is sort of more pro woman,
Speaker 6: and they've effected somewhat effectively. You know, they keep lying,
Speaker 6: and they keep saying, for instance, that you know Trump
Speaker 6: and Vans are going to outlaw Yep, they've said the opposite.
Speaker 6: They've said the exact opposite. They haven't said that, and
Speaker 6: so I don't know that. I think the Republicans and
Speaker 6: Trump have an opportunity to message better here because you're
Speaker 6: right on a lot of issues that women care about,
Speaker 6: school choice being one an education for our kids, more broadly,
Speaker 6: being too bodily autonomy when it comes to medication and vaccine.
Speaker 6: You know, I lean that way, you know I will
Speaker 6: lean that way, and I think we can't let them
Speaker 6: have the they can't own that. You know, we're the
Speaker 6: party that's for women.
Speaker 3: We've got to take a quick break.
Speaker 2: Would you be willing to stay on and talk more
Speaker 2: about this, because I think branding our brand, our Republican brand,
Speaker 2: is so important to nail down right now and talk about.
Speaker 3: I'd love to have you.
Speaker 2: So this is Heidi Ganol with Dan Kaplis, Jen and
Speaker 2: I will be right.
Speaker 3: Back after the break.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Is Heidie Gannall filling in for Dan Kaplis with my
Speaker 2: special guest Jennifer Say, Jennifer, we were just digging into
Speaker 2: branding and the Republican Party and you are.
Speaker 3: A branding guru. That's you're so talented. From that perspective, what.
Speaker 2: Would you do if you took over the GOP the
Speaker 2: Republican Party and had to basically refresh the brand?
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, you know what, that's a hard question.
Speaker 6: I would want to think about it. I actually thought
Speaker 6: watching the convention, they did a really good job on that.
Speaker 6: I thought that they came across as a big tent.
Speaker 6: I thought that having younger speakers, more diverse speakers, speakers
Speaker 6: like Bert Rose, who I know, some conservative that we're
Speaker 6: critical of, but I feel like, as someone you know,
Speaker 6: who spent my life on the left, having her there
Speaker 6: and explaining how she had changed her mind, it gives
Speaker 6: permission to other people to change their mind. You know.
Speaker 6: I thought that was really well done. I really did.
Speaker 6: I thought it was really well done. And so I
Speaker 6: think it's just more of that. You know, I think
Speaker 6: we need to I'm not a register Republican. I'll just
Speaker 6: say that, I'm a sorry, I'm a REDID. They need
Speaker 6: to just keep doing that, you know that they need that.
Speaker 6: The Democrats pretend they are the big tent party, but
Speaker 6: time and time again they show that that is not
Speaker 6: the case. There is no diversity of the thought welcome.
Speaker 6: They didn't even let the people pick the candidate. Like,
Speaker 6: how is that open and democratic and welcoming? You know,
Speaker 6: you can only think one way. And I think that
Speaker 6: that is what I would this on if I were
Speaker 6: in charge of branding, is how do we kind of
Speaker 6: open our arms welcome, welcome everyone, We welcome diversity of thoughts.
Speaker 6: We champion freedom and individual liberty. That's what's important. I mean,
Speaker 6: for me, if I was going to vote based on
Speaker 6: one thing, it would be who do I believe is
Speaker 6: going to protect my right to free speech? If I
Speaker 6: had to prioritize one thing over anything else, And both
Speaker 6: Trump and Vance have spoken to that, I think quite
Speaker 6: eloquently in the last week. Really and again I think
Speaker 6: it was a bit of a missed opportunity not to
Speaker 6: talk about it in the debate, But like that's a winner,
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, And I think that's hammer at home.
Speaker 3: That's why Elon Musk is so on board with Trump.
Speaker 2: I mean he's literally wearing his Maga hat online, it seems.
Speaker 2: But yeah, And what I really liked about the convention
Speaker 2: was the everyday Americans theme. And I was there and
Speaker 2: just the sprinkling of real Americans telling their stories, a
Speaker 2: lot of them women and moms, was so impactful and
Speaker 2: it just was very meaningful. We have a caller that
Speaker 2: would like to join our conversation and ask a question
Speaker 2: about abortion.
Speaker 3: If you're okay with that.
Speaker 2: That's a big issue in the Republican Party about how
Speaker 2: to talk about that.
Speaker 3: Mary, welcome to the show.
Speaker 11: Yes, I have two things to say, and I better
Speaker 11: be quick. It looks like on the polling there are
Speaker 11: a lot of people that would not answer a survey
Speaker 11: for the door or anything else that they don't want
Speaker 11: to be hassled.
Speaker 3: It's a great point, Mary.
Speaker 11: Don't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the polling is all over the place.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to tell what's going on. Pulling wise,
Speaker 2: I think Real Clear Politics average has come all up
Speaker 2: one point nine. But Trump is favored on all the issues,
Speaker 2: which I think is.
Speaker 3: More meaningful in a way. But great comment. Mary, what
Speaker 3: was your other comment?
Speaker 11: My other comment was I watched online an abortion doctor
Speaker 11: explain exactly what happened and how it's done, and I
Speaker 11: don't think most people have any idea. And I'll we
Speaker 11: have to use the vacuum and suck the baby out
Speaker 11: and shout all the arms and legs on the table
Speaker 11: and make sure they have all the parts first semester
Speaker 11: for first three of fields.
Speaker 3: It's better, it's bad.
Speaker 2: Mary, Yeah, I think I think that's going around a
Speaker 2: lot online, people talking about the realities of the procedure,
Speaker 2: especially late term abortion, which in Colorado is legal up
Speaker 2: up until birth. So thank you for your call, Mary,
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. And Jen, what's your take on
Speaker 2: how we navigate the pro choice pro life conversation because
Speaker 2: it's such an important one in the conservative movement.
Speaker 6: Oh boy, that's a sticky, wicked I'm asking you.
Speaker 3: Some tough questions today.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you on it and I
Speaker 2: want to tap into your expertise.
Speaker 6: Well, I believe that, and I might be wrong, but
Speaker 6: the polls that I have seen show that something around
Speaker 6: seventy percent of Americans our choice with restrictions. I think
Speaker 6: reasonable people. I think making abortion completely illegal is a loser. Honestly,
Speaker 6: I apologize to my friends to our pro life I
Speaker 6: think politically that is not a winning position, and I
Speaker 6: think Trump has stated his position clearly, which is leave
Speaker 6: it to the states, which I tend to agree with.
Speaker 6: Somehow the Democrats are lying about what his position is,
Speaker 6: and it's like sticking and so I think he needs
Speaker 6: to just keep saying it over and over. He has
Speaker 6: said explicitly he is not for a national abortion band. Now,
Speaker 6: there may be someone the right that are opposed to
Speaker 6: him saying that, but he has said it explicitly. He
Speaker 6: has said explicitly this is a tangential but related issue,
Speaker 6: that he is supportive of IVF. And yet somehow Harris
Speaker 6: and Walls are out there saying he would ban IVS
Speaker 6: and he would enact a national abortion ban, and those
Speaker 6: are both unpopular positions nationally. A national abortion ban and
Speaker 6: banning IVS and IVF is essentially, I think, as someone
Speaker 6: who's gone through it, a very.
Speaker 11: Polite position.
Speaker 6: In a sense, I think there should be more regulation
Speaker 6: around the industry. I think there's a lot of weirdness
Speaker 6: that happens but I don't know. I was older and
Speaker 6: I met my husband, and we wanted to have kids
Speaker 6: and we couldn't. And I feel really blessed that I
Speaker 6: was able to do that and I had these two amazing,
Speaker 6: beautiful children.
Speaker 3: Well me too, Jen. We've got to wrap up.
Speaker 2: We've got to wrap up, and I'm sorry for asking
Speaker 2: you these tough questions, but you've done a fabulous job
Speaker 2: and I'm so blessed to have you on the show.
Speaker 2: Thanks for all you do. This is Heidi Ganal on
Speaker 2: the Dan Kaplas Show. Thanks Jan will see you soon.