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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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<v Speaker 1>this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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<v Speaker 1>quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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<v Speaker 1>just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to another episode. Today, we've got the privilege of

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Mike Aguilar. Mike is a senior field researcher

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<v Speaker 1>for the Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>doing that for over six years. You've heard of this

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<v Speaker 1>organization from my interviews with Marie Dumont. I've talked to

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<v Speaker 1>her a few times over the last few years. But

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<v Speaker 1>finally able to have Mike on the show. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>just a long list, as you can imagine. I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>i gotta get Mike on, and then it just worked

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<v Speaker 1>out I'm not sure if I can't remember if I

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to you or how it worked out, but

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<v Speaker 1>it worked out finally, And Mike, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, man, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Mike, you are down there in the state of Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have got so much going on, so many

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<v Speaker 1>I mean hot zone area hotspot areas. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>my map and looking at other maps that are out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have a lot, a lot of stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you were telling me you've actually had

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<v Speaker 1>multiple visual sightings over the years, but it probably would

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<v Speaker 1>be best to kind of start back when you first

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<v Speaker 1>all got into this and what you got into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So starting out like I was pretty much like everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't I didn't not believe. I didn't believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was this kind of I enjoyed watching the shows when

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<v Speaker 2>they came on. You know, it wasn't anything that was

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<v Speaker 2>in a part of my life. It literally wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>part of my life until it walked in front of

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<v Speaker 2>me and I was My journey started in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was uh in Homo sass of Florida, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was about an hour a little over an hour from

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<v Speaker 2>where I grew up. But I used to go fishing

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<v Speaker 2>there a lot. And I was with my best friend

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<v Speaker 2>and we were going to go fishing that day and

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<v Speaker 2>we were There's an area it's called Old Mason Creek

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<v Speaker 2>Road and it's a private like a boat ramp. At

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<v Speaker 2>the end of that road is a private ramp. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one I always like to usually get away

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<v Speaker 2>from all the traffic, from all the people that go

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<v Speaker 2>to Homa sas Or River for scalloping and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're driving it's like six thirty in the morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>that time of year, the sun is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just starting to peek up above the trees. And so

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<v Speaker 2>as we're coming down the road, there's a set of

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<v Speaker 2>s curves and if you're coming around this curve, you

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<v Speaker 2>can see up ahead to like the third curve. And

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm coming around the curve on that third curve,

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<v Speaker 2>I see this, you know, shadow, walking up towards the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of the road from left to right. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was just a big just look like a big dude

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<v Speaker 2>walking up on the edge. And as I coming around

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<v Speaker 2>the curve, he walks up. He goes into the to

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<v Speaker 2>the road, probably about eighty yards ahead of me or so,

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<v Speaker 2>and he walks and he goes from shadow and he

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<v Speaker 2>crossed the road. I remember he took like one or

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<v Speaker 2>two steps and was almost across the road like halfway,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just had that perfect patty look like he

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<v Speaker 2>looked over arms swinging cross the road. And when he

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<v Speaker 2>hit the light, he turned from shadow to cinnamon and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like reddish brown color and every bit of

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<v Speaker 2>seven foot tall at least. And my best friend's literally

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<v Speaker 2>right beside me looking out the window. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what he was looking at, but the sun just hit

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<v Speaker 2>him just perfect, and with the sun behind him, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a silhouette and you could tell it was Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>You could just you could see it, like it lit

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<v Speaker 2>him up, and I like him came around the curve

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<v Speaker 2>and came back around again. As you come back, he

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<v Speaker 2>was gone. It was that quick, and I'm like, my

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<v Speaker 2>brain took a photo, you know. I was like, holy crap.

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<v Speaker 2>So I pulled up my stop. I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>like did you see that thing? And he's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? I was like, you didn't see that?

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<v Speaker 2>Thing just walking across the road. He's like, what youre

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<v Speaker 2>talking about? I was like, dude, it was Harry and

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<v Speaker 2>it was tall. It was huge. It was big. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like bulky big. He was like, like, I go

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<v Speaker 2>to the gym, basketball player, big tall guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't super bulky. It was tall and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like ripped looking like just perfect frame. And but

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<v Speaker 2>he was sideways because I caught that side angle watching him.

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<v Speaker 2>But my friend never saw it. I couldn't believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was that quick, and he just never saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got out. I'm looking around. He thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was like losing my mind, and till this day he

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<v Speaker 2>still never saw it and doesn't know what to think

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<v Speaker 2>of it. You know. It was just I saw it

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't, and it changed my life, Like I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to know what I saw, and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>stop thinking about it over and over, like I kept

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<v Speaker 2>playing that picture in my head, watching that thing come

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<v Speaker 2>up and right in front of me, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>I dove nose deep, like headfirst into the rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Wow, I couldn't couldn't stop after.

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<v Speaker 1>So how long would you would you say that the

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<v Speaker 1>entire road crossing took in front of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe five to eight seconds. Just as it was coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>It came up from the side and as I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>around the curve, you know, he's just coming up walking

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<v Speaker 2>and it just was right in front of me. Just

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<v Speaker 2>never stopped. He was just fluidly going. You know. It

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<v Speaker 2>felt like it was a slow motion, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>just pretty quick. You know. But since then, I've had

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a lot a lot closer things happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, Okay, I got I got to see things,

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<v Speaker 2>got to see things a lot closer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't wait to hear about that. I got

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<v Speaker 1>one one or two more questions about this, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is very interesting. So you have the side view, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you have it looked back towards you for a

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<v Speaker 1>short amount of time. Did you notice anything about the

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<v Speaker 1>face when it looked back towards you during that time?

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was just it was just far enough

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<v Speaker 2>where I couldn't see facial details, but I could just

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<v Speaker 2>see the arm swing as he looked back. It was

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<v Speaker 2>almost perfect, like if you look at the Patty film,

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<v Speaker 2>like just happened to look looking over towards me, like

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm looking at you as I'm crossing the road.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he just looked over and his arms were

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<v Speaker 2>swinging and I could tell his arms were down past

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<v Speaker 2>his knees when he as he walked, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>like this, Wow, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eighty yards would be really the perfect amount of

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<v Speaker 1>distance for you not to be able to I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's almost what just under three tennis courts. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be very hard to see facial details, I'd imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>So then after this, it sounds like you really dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the subject, should try to find out more about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I watched At first. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>did probably what everybody does. I watched every document documentary

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<v Speaker 2>and everything I could learn and try and figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I learned a lot from doctor Meldrum before I

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<v Speaker 2>ever met him, and just just watching documentaries, and him

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<v Speaker 2>and Stacy Brown were some of the first people I

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<v Speaker 2>ever watched, because Stacey was from Florida, and those were

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<v Speaker 2>the first person people I was trying to learn paying

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<v Speaker 2>see what they were doing. And then I just started

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<v Speaker 2>going out on my own and because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>find answers, so I started using things of how I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in Florida. I mean, I've been in these

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<v Speaker 2>woods my whole life and I had never seen anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But I figured, if this thing is nocturnal

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<v Speaker 2>like it's supposed to be, then I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of the day when it's resting

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<v Speaker 2>and it's relaxed. And that's what I'm gonna find it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I did, and it worked, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>scared to out of me. I had two bad ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I had two bad ones happen, and since those, I've

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<v Speaker 2>changed the way I do everything because I don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>want to go through those experiences again. The bad ones,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is pre you being involved with Mid

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<v Speaker 1>Florida Bigfoot Research Group.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, This was I had. I had two I

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<v Speaker 2>had two experiences happened. I call them, I say, my

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<v Speaker 2>bad ones. They're they're bad ones. But they were my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that now because I've never had another

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<v Speaker 2>bad one. And I learned a lot. You know. We

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<v Speaker 2>took a trip to the specific Northwest and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to meet Thomas Suit and then that was awesome, and

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<v Speaker 2>he he told me things I was doing wrong, and

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<v Speaker 2>he made jokes with me about it. But you learn

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<v Speaker 2>from it, you know. And I realized it's so clear

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<v Speaker 2>with things it was all my fault, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>walked into something's back door without knocking, right when it

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<v Speaker 2>was resting. Well, I think that I take the road

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<v Speaker 2>of they're more like us than they are more than

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<v Speaker 2>more animal. That's the way I look at it. And

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<v Speaker 2>because they're they're so intelligent, and I know they're in

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<v Speaker 2>family groups. But so my thought was, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the day, the hottest part of

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<v Speaker 2>the day in Florida, you know, one o'clock in Florida

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<v Speaker 2>during like I think it was, it was probably around

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<v Speaker 2>April was when the first one happened, and that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>about eighty nine ninety degrees. It's pretty hot, so usually

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<v Speaker 2>most things are betted down and relaxing. So I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in an area that is right backs up to

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<v Speaker 2>a observe that's ninety eight hundred acres in Florida. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of land because everything's being funneled in, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you know the corridors and you follow them where

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<v Speaker 2>they run into areas, you find these small areas that

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<v Speaker 2>are protected and nobody can go in there. This area

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, you can't hunt, you can't drive in there. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to get on a bicycle and ride.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where I grew up and as a kid, I

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<v Speaker 2>always always in there. There's a creek that runs through there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, I'm going to go to that creek.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that water source. Is going to be by the

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<v Speaker 2>water source. I found the deepest, thickest hammock that I

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<v Speaker 2>could find, and I'm going to go. I circled it

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<v Speaker 2>on the map. I said, I'm going to go there,

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<v Speaker 2>so I did. I drove my bike in and I rode.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost three mile bike ride. And then once I

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<v Speaker 2>got off the bike, it was about a half a

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<v Speaker 2>mile trail walk to where the creek goes through, really

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<v Speaker 2>deep into the forest. And I'm walking down that trail

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<v Speaker 2>And as I'm walking down the trail, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>this way, two different ways, crossing blocking the path, And like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your gut tells you not to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>My gut said, you're not. That's telling you not to

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<v Speaker 2>anything growing up in Florida. Not much a scary. If

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<v Speaker 2>you've rustled alligators and every type of critter, you can

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<v Speaker 2>your whole life. And I stepped over that limb, stepped

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<v Speaker 2>about a probably thirteen fourteen its footprint, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I heard something go and it cracked, and to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded like a tree about that big around popped.

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<v Speaker 2>of day, not a sound being made. And that thing crunched.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded like it got up and used something to

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<v Speaker 2>towards me, just just and it gurgling, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like instant, like you feel it, and it was holy cow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kind of like half head turned and I

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<v Speaker 2>Because if the sound was close in that growl when

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<v Speaker 2>like a like a deeper version of an alligator. Been

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<v Speaker 2>at bellows that like the gurgling gurgle sound, And but

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<v Speaker 2>it hit me. And when it hit me, it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my My exact words were, I'm sorry, I'm leaving. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't That's what I said. I'm sorry, I'm leaving. I turned.

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know what it was. I start walking

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm walking down that trail. That thing just growled

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<v Speaker 2>at me now and I'm terrified. I'd get up to

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<v Speaker 2>the front and I have to make a left. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was on all right, So if you're looking down

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<v Speaker 2>the trail, it was on my right. So as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>turning around and going out. It's on my left the

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<v Speaker 2>trail I came in on. Now it's gonna be on

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<v Speaker 2>my left side. So I start walking down the trail.

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<v Speaker 2>It starts paralleling me. Crunch, crunch. I stopped. It stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I heard another set of footprints, crunch, crunch, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a third. There was multiple ones that were following crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept hearing a funny sound, and I'm trying to, like,

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<v Speaker 2>butck pucker walk out of there because I'm scared and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to run, like I said, in case

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<v Speaker 2>it triggered it to come after me whatever, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hear I kept hearing this and then the

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<v Speaker 2>stick landing in front of me. They were throwing sticks

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<v Speaker 2>at me. They were flipping them at me, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like they were trying to necessarily take me out

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<v Speaker 2>with them, but it's like they were getting me out

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<v Speaker 2>of there. I start walking down. I swear into my peripheral.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw something go past me, and I thought, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna go up, he's gonna flight me. I'm done,

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<v Speaker 2>and but it never happened. I made it back to

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<v Speaker 2>my bike and it was like, I said, about a

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<v Speaker 2>three mile right out of there, and I pedaled that

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<v Speaker 2>fast as I've ever put on my life. I got

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<v Speaker 2>back to my truck and I'm like sitting there and

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<v Speaker 2>I started feeling sick, and then I threw up. I

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<v Speaker 2>threw up again. I couldn't hold it down. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what was wrong with me? And my ears started ringing.

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<v Speaker 2>I started feeling horrible, started getting sweats like I was

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<v Speaker 2>horribly sick feeling, and I didn't know until later that

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<v Speaker 2>I got zap. I got hit with him for sound

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<v Speaker 2>is what we think one hundred percent. For three days,

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<v Speaker 2>my ears were swollen, feeling like like inside, felt like

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<v Speaker 2>someone had done something damage to them. To this day,

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<v Speaker 2>they still have I can't dive anymore. I can't dive

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<v Speaker 2>under like three feet of water because it's did something

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<v Speaker 2>to my ears. It's it's weird. Oh my goodness. That

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<v Speaker 2>was number two.

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<v Speaker 1>That is some scary stuff. Have have you gotten other

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<v Speaker 1>reports from the same area of other people having similar instances.

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<v Speaker 2>Or there's been white a few reports from this area

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<v Speaker 2>On the other side of there's two ways to come in.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only two ways to come into this preserve and

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side. There's a I believe there's a

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<v Speaker 2>b fro O report from over there. And there was

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<v Speaker 2>another person who grew up over there as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't give out his name because I'm not sure you

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<v Speaker 2>know how he feels about that right now, But I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him and he said he's had him on

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<v Speaker 2>his property and he's had things happen over there, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's on the other side of the preserve from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I never even knew all this, you know. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was the only one that had anything happen out

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<v Speaker 2>there till recently, and as far as I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the only person that's done research out there though. And

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<v Speaker 2>I I found I found. I met up with, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>David Sidoti from is s R T, and he him

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<v Speaker 2>and his group came and met up with me. They

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<v Speaker 2>were the They were one of the first people I

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<v Speaker 2>ever met up with. And I found I found this

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<v Speaker 2>inverted tree out there. That was the first thing I

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<v Speaker 2>found before I even made it back to the trail.

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<v Speaker 2>I found this inverted for cypress tree that was forty

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<v Speaker 2>foot long with the root ball sticking up in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only about twenty feet off a trail. It

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<v Speaker 2>was looking a marker. It was like, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>root ball, it's the coolest picture. And as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I was the first person to find a

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<v Speaker 2>big inverted tree like that in Florida. We thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a Pacific Northwest thing or Alaska thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>this was this huge cypress tree right in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of a pine area. No cypress trees. Cypress trees were

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<v Speaker 2>probably three hundred yards away, and it was brought over

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<v Speaker 2>there and propped up perfect with the root ball, this

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<v Speaker 2>gnarly looking root ball sticking up in the air. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a great picture. I'll send it to you another time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll share it with you. It is really cool looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. But so that area, that area led me

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<v Speaker 2>to other areas that revolved around that creek. That creek

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<v Speaker 2>was the life source, and I just basically what I

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<v Speaker 2>started doing. I started going into all the thickest cypress

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<v Speaker 2>hammock areas down that creek and trying to find the

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<v Speaker 2>most remote places that nobody had been in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's all one part of big funnel part. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the most narrow area that you can have protected land

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<v Speaker 2>like that throughout the area. Basically there's building going all

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<v Speaker 2>the way around it. So everything's forced into there, the hogs,

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<v Speaker 2>the deer, turkeys, everything is forced into this little, small funnel.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that makes perfect sense why you would go

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<v Speaker 1>to a place like that to just to get potential activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's being forced in there. Well, so are we This

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<v Speaker 1>is actually a question I should have asked earlier. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you considering these skuncape or bigfoot or how are you

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<v Speaker 1>referring to them in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a believer there's two species. I think there's two ones,

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<v Speaker 2>a subspecies or something. Then I think that's I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's starts about just south of Tampa, south Tampa, Mayaca,

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<v Speaker 2>down through the Everglades. I don't I'm not saying that's

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<v Speaker 2>there can't be big fir sasquatch down there, because I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen things that says there is. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there's whatever those species are. I think their line is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of by Tampa, somewhere in that area, and they

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be a little more aggressive and a little

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<v Speaker 2>more primal, like a little more not quite as educated

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<v Speaker 2>if you would, you know, like we don't find structures

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<v Speaker 2>as much. We don't find you don't find it as

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<v Speaker 2>much knowledge to me, like the things that we find

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<v Speaker 2>in the other areas, like a lot of like weavings

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<v Speaker 2>and tree structures and different things and markers. We find

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot more north of Tampa Tampa North. That's

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<v Speaker 2>extremely interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, that's something I'd never heard of, but probably

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<v Speaker 1>something cool worth looking into. What was the main lesson

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<v Speaker 1>that you learned from that varience that you you were

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<v Speaker 1>not going to to replicate in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I no longer dress in full camo, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>go if I'm going into an area, I announce myself now,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I have one more. That was the one

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<v Speaker 2>that sealed it for sure, but I quit, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was the one that really got me. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had one more, when I would say, very unsettling

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<v Speaker 2>one and it was the worst one yet. And that

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<v Speaker 2>one happened with my dog with me. But but I

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<v Speaker 2>just after those two. Like that's the main thing, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is like middle of the day is when they're relaxing,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you want to catch one off guard, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when you do it. And that's what happened. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>think about it. You walk up on deer, you jump

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<v Speaker 2>deer all the time in the middle of the day

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<v Speaker 2>when it's hot, they're bedded down, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they do as well. Everything in Florida gets more

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<v Speaker 2>active at night. It seems to be hogs deer, it's cooler,

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<v Speaker 2>less people because we're so congested with so many people

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<v Speaker 2>and everything too, and it just makes a lot more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So really, it sounds like you almost and you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if if I'm on the right track or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like you kind of changed your intention

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<v Speaker 1>of how you were going into these areas. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not dressed up as a hunter and camo. You're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of more laid back. Maybe you're announcing yourself. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to to pull one over whatever's in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, right, And so I'll give you. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you, I mean, I'll give you the next one

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<v Speaker 2>that that finished it, because then I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>some good things, okay, because I learned a lot those

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<v Speaker 2>two bad Those two bad experiences really led me to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of good ones afterwards, after I changed a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things, you know. But so the second time

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<v Speaker 2>was another area that and what I do is, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I kind of feel drawn to those areas.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at them. Same thing with fishing spots. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go on, I'll go on a map and look, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to fish this spot. Same thing. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good at finding spots like that, areas that I think

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<v Speaker 2>something should be. So this area was closer towards Tampa

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<v Speaker 2>and still part of the same creek system. And you

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<v Speaker 2>the area is a narrow area, very very hard to

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<v Speaker 2>get into, but it's very close to It backs up

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<v Speaker 2>to a million dollar neighborhood, like one of the richiest

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhoods and throughout Tampa in Basco County. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>found a way in. And if there's a power line

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<v Speaker 2>run that runs through it, and I, you know, paying attention, like,

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00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:48.559
<v Speaker 2>oh power line run, stuff happens. Well, I found a

417
00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:51.240
<v Speaker 2>power line run that has not been mowed in thirty

418
00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:54.319
<v Speaker 2>years because it's too wetback there. The creek runs into it,

419
00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:58.160
<v Speaker 2>so nobody goes back there. And there's a creek that

420
00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:00.519
<v Speaker 2>cuts off. So in order to do you get to

421
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:04.039
<v Speaker 2>the spot that I found, you have to walk three

422
00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.480
<v Speaker 2>miles around and not me, people are gonna do that,

423
00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.759
<v Speaker 2>walk around the creek to go back and come in

424
00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:11.519
<v Speaker 2>another mile back into it. In order to get to

425
00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:13.279
<v Speaker 2>where it's at. You don't understand what I'm saying, like

426
00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you gotta go three miles out of your way and

427
00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:17.960
<v Speaker 2>come back a mile in. And the reason we found

428
00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.759
<v Speaker 2>the spot was me and my son. I took him

429
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<v Speaker 2>fishing and the creek to kind of do squatch a

430
00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>little and fish a little too, and we heard some

431
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:27.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff going crazy. But I always called him the Foreurner

432
00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:32.200
<v Speaker 2>pound bard owls, the Foreurner pound owls, because it's like, like,

433
00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>what doesn't sound like It's not like, you know, it's

434
00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>more like like, well, we're sitting there fishing, and you

435
00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.519
<v Speaker 2>could see around the corner. My son saw something and

436
00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:45.640
<v Speaker 2>he's like, Dad, I see something. It's looking at me

437
00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:47.640
<v Speaker 2>from the tree. And I thought he was messing with me,

438
00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:50.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I'm like, all right, son, you know whatever.

439
00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.160
<v Speaker 2>He starts crying like he gets mad, like Dad, oh,

440
00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I see something. It was looking at me from the

441
00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:58.319
<v Speaker 2>side of the tree. The creek goes in zigzags, so

442
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:01.519
<v Speaker 2>if you're looking down the side, it's about a block

443
00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>away you can see the trees up there. And all

444
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:06.759
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, after he said that, it sounded like

445
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 2>a flock of bardows started going off at eleven o'clock

446
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:18.519
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, just like it was wild and I

447
00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, this is weird. So I ended

448
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.279
<v Speaker 2>up taking taking him home and I'm like, I'm coming

449
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:26.200
<v Speaker 2>back the next day. And that's what I did. I

450
00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:27.680
<v Speaker 2>looked up and the map, figured out how to get

451
00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:29.839
<v Speaker 2>over there, and I go into this area with my dog.

452
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I had my dog Miley with me and had her

453
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:37.079
<v Speaker 2>on her leash. We walk into the area and I

454
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.680
<v Speaker 2>just randomly found this area that was go heading towards

455
00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:43.759
<v Speaker 2>the creek again. And as I'm walking in, I see

456
00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I stead of first I found are trees that were bent.

457
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:48.920
<v Speaker 2>It was some of the first tree binds and brakes

458
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I had really found. And they were really cool, like

459
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the way they had been bent, like twisted and bent

460
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.559
<v Speaker 2>and bent over. And I started getting all that weird

461
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.079
<v Speaker 2>ear feeling again. And I'm getting back in there and

462
00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I find this. There's three palmetto palm and the palmeto

463
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.039
<v Speaker 2>palm trees don't fall over easy, even with hurricanes, and

464
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>this was a cluster of three and it was pushed

465
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<v Speaker 2>over like it ook it. It's pushed over. There was

466
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a root ball sticking up, it was dug out underneath

467
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:18.079
<v Speaker 2>it and it looked like a body had been laying

468
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>in there. On the right side of the cluster, there

469
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>was a skinned tree, completely bald, and it was propping

470
00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>up this side of the cluster. So the trees were

471
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.920
<v Speaker 2>like this, and on this side of the root ball

472
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.640
<v Speaker 2>there was another one, so it was being supported both

473
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Speaker 2>ways with stripped looked like poles. There were trees that

474
00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>were like this on each side, so one by the

475
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.359
<v Speaker 2>trees and one by the back of the rootball, so

476
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 2>there was no way for it to fall down. Under

477
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>this side where the palmetto palms was, it was bedded

478
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.839
<v Speaker 2>down with more palmetto fronds. It was a clear nest,

479
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 2>so there was a nest in there, and there was

480
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a nest on the back side of it dug out.

481
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And then I learned looking around and I find more

482
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:02.519
<v Speaker 2>there's pump the root balls. They were dug out underneath,

483
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.119
<v Speaker 2>and they were laying under them, is what they were doing.

484
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:07.759
<v Speaker 2>They some of them were pushed over and they were

485
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 2>digging out the root balls to make easy little shelters,

486
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 2>little beds, is what it looked like they were doing.

487
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.720
<v Speaker 2>So I go walking out after I had filmed all that,

488
00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 2>and I go walking out towards the main it's like

489
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>a four wheeler trail that went through and I'm walking

490
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.839
<v Speaker 2>down and I found footprints on that four wheeler trail.

491
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is freaking incredible. I found a lot

492
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.880
<v Speaker 2>of footprints, like really good ones, and I walked up

493
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 2>to a set of nineteen inch footprints. They were massive,

494
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.119
<v Speaker 2>and I have good pictures of those two. There's two

495
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>of them and boom boom, and they were in the

496
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.000
<v Speaker 2>grass though, off the edge of the road. They weren't

497
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>right in the road, they were off the edge, but

498
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was was so heavy. They were nineteen by

499
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>nine wide. They were massive, but the mud was that

500
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.480
<v Speaker 2>thick coming out from the back of the grass. So

501
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.440
<v Speaker 2>this thing had to be a thousand pounds and it

502
00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.119
<v Speaker 2>was like juiced up on the back of it. You

503
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 2>can see it, and it was it was wild. How

504
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 2>good it was. Well, I started getting that feeling again,

505
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you know what, I'm not doing that again.

506
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm not gonna go in and get hit

507
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 2>by one of these things again. I'll come back with

508
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>my friend. You know, I'm gonna come back. It was

509
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>already too late. I don't know if I got too

510
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 2>close or what it was. My dog starts doing her

511
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 2>little low growl. I just got done filming the picture,

512
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the footprints, and she starts growling real low, looking at

513
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the woodline, which was about thirty yards from me, twenty

514
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.240
<v Speaker 2>yards probably about twenty yards actually twenty twenty five something

515
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 2>like that. Our it was real thick. You couldn't see

516
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 2>into it, but you could see trees sticking up above it,

517
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 2>three of them. And I heard something and she, you know,

518
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>she perked up and it sounded like a stomp. It

519
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.640
<v Speaker 2>felt like it. It felt like something went boom. It stomped

520
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the ground boom. And I'm like, and she jumped, and

521
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>her hair's raised up. It starts growling, and then that

522
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 2>tree in the middle move and then it moved again,

523
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.079
<v Speaker 2>and then it freaking went like this, and it was

524
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.559
<v Speaker 2>this is a tree that was eight inches ten inches around,

525
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 2>a decent sized tree, fifty foot tall. I was like, ok,

526
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you exactly what tree it was, but

527
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.839
<v Speaker 2>it shook it like this and it let out off

528
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 2>the sound and it pushed the whole tree over and

529
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>she turned and almost killed herself on the on the

530
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>on the leash, trying to get away she's like, wow,

531
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I hung herself. I literally turned, I said, I yelled

532
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:35.160
<v Speaker 2>at I'm sorry, I'm leaving, and dude, I had tears

533
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 2>in my eyes, like I'm a grown ass man and

534
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I'd never had. That was the second time I gues say.

535
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.720
<v Speaker 2>The first time was primal fear. This time was like

536
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>primal fear, excel, and I don't care who you are,

537
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>how tough you think you are when something like that happens,

538
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:55.680
<v Speaker 2>You're not. You're not tough. That thing scared the crap

539
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 2>out of me. And I picked up the phone. I

540
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>called my best friend. I'm like this, and remember where

541
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 2>I told you where I was going. I'm there and

542
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 2>something is following me. It just pushed a tree over.

543
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, listen,

544
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>if I don't call you in twenty minutes, call me again.

545
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>If I don't answer, this is where my body's at.

546
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Like that thing is mad, it's pissed off at me. Well,

547
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>long story short, I made it back. It didn't hurt me.

548
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 2>It bluffed me. It worked one hundred and ten percent

549
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>worked because I wanted no part or whatever that thing was.

550
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>But so that was the second bad one. The last

551
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>time I ever had, last time I ever had a

552
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 2>real bad one.

553
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's that's intense. I'm going to guess you probably

554
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>have never been back to that area since.

555
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Actually, no, I'm stubborn. I've been back quite a few times,

556
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 2>and I've never had That's actually where me, RPG and

557
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>his kids and my kids, it's all went back to

558
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 2>that area together. This is years later, now, it's been

559
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>This was in twenty twenty nineteen when that happened, and

560
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 2>so it's been quite a few years. I've been going

561
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>there for a long time. Actually, I've had I started

562
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>having better things happen, and now I wouldn't take the

563
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 2>kids in there right after that happened. Now I wouldn't

564
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 2>do that. And my son's considerably older now too, you know,

565
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.039
<v Speaker 2>he's eleven. But we took all of our kids back there,

566
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and I've never had a bad feeling ever. Again. I

567
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>just think I don't know if I pissed off the rogue,

568
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.799
<v Speaker 2>I pissed off the alpha with the dog. I don't

569
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>know what I did, but that thing was pissed and

570
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.799
<v Speaker 2>I just got I think I got too close to it,

571
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to its maybe I got too close to its little ones.

572
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, but it was it did his job. It

573
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>ran me out of there. And but that same area

574
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 2>my son where I was telling you earlier, that's when

575
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>my son had a class A sighting. He saw it

576
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 2>right there. He saw it, like squat go. It was

577
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 2>looking at him. It was he came up from the

578
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>back of it. Me RPG and his kids were walking

579
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>out this way farther out about ten yards from him,

580
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>and it didn't see him. And as he came around

581
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 2>the corner, he was staring at it and it was

582
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>he said, it was that it was eight foot and

583
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 2>four foot wide jet black, he said, looked at him

584
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 2>and just said it looked like it hovered down like

585
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.200
<v Speaker 2>con But he was he started crying, like what's wrong,

586
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong? He's like, I just saw one, Like he

587
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 2>was so dead serious. It's we've got it on film,

588
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 2>like not him seeing it, but what happened afterwards, you know,

589
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 2>And it's really a cool emotional little moment, like he

590
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 2>wasn't crying because he was scared. He was crying because

591
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>he actually got to see one. Finally, is what it was?

592
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Goness that that is that is really really cool. So

593
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you have these two times where you had. I mean,

594
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:52.279
<v Speaker 1>the pretty intense bad things happen. What was it that

595
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 1>made you continue with your research. I've talked to a

596
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that have experienced things that don't even

597
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 1>come close to what you experienced, and it made them,

598
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, never go into the woods again. Why was

599
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it different for you.

600
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to stop going. I just kind of

601
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>stopped going by myself. I was not comfortable by myself

602
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>nearly as much for a long time. I've gotten more

603
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>comfortable now. I still have it in the back of

604
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>my head. It does something to you, like you see

605
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>something do something like that, you realize a gun is

606
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>not stopping that thing. Nothing's stopping that thing. It just

607
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.279
<v Speaker 2>pushed over a tree that was fifty foot tall, you know,

608
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>like the strongest in the footprints I saw, and how

609
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>much that thing weighed, like to make that impression in

610
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the ground. That thing's eight hundred to one thousand pounds.

611
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Like you're not stopping it, you know. And but I

612
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>still I am. I believe that I messed up, like

613
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I said, the way I was handling it, and I

614
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>was scared, yes, but I'm so curious and I can't stop.

615
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't stop it. I'm so I'm in so deep

616
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>on it now and it's it's almost fun to be

617
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 2>scared a little. But I don't want to be I

618
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>don't want to have those type of experiences again. But

619
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I've gone in and that's after that. Shortly after that's

620
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 2>when I met Stacy was the next one. I met

621
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Stacy Brown. He actually came to that location with me.

622
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>We met up and that was how I first met him,

623
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.839
<v Speaker 2>and we went out together meet him and his camera

624
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>crew and we did a side by side comparison of

625
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I have a picture. I have a blurry photo from

626
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>something that was nine foot tall we estimated and perfect

627
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>size the shit be able to take a tree over.

628
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 2>But the picture it's it looked to me, it looks

629
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>like a Harry and Harry from Harry and Henderson's looking

630
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 2>sideways and he was turning to go back around the

631
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 2>tree right where I was at, where that betting area was,

632
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, it's blurry, but you can see it,

633
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and the video you can see him. You can see

634
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.559
<v Speaker 2>him come out. It slowed down so but you can

635
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>see him come out bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger. And then

636
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>as I come back, he goes back and disappears behind

637
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>a tree. It was like that quick. My dog never

638
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 2>picked up on There were so many smells going on

639
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.240
<v Speaker 2>that she didn't pick up on it. Oh, by the way,

640
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>my dog after that day wouldn't go down a trail

641
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>ever again that she smelt them on, never again, And

642
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>she smelt that smell that she had picked up on.

643
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>After that day, she stopped at the trail and would

644
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 2>not go forward. They ruined her. She would never go

645
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 2>in there again.

646
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>My goodness, is that video on a YouTube channel that

647
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>people can see at all?

648
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Or I'm going to be posting them? I said, I really,

649
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just really starting to get my YouTube channel going,

650
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going back to all my old videos and

651
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>old things. You know, first starting out, you know how

652
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>people are Trolls are ridiculous and they ridicule you. And

653
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what I went through when I first started, like, oh,

654
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like I'm seeing everything, why can't you see it?

655
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 2>And I just learned that not everybody is gonna see

656
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 2>what you see, and you're not going to change someone's

657
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>point of view the way they think, and they're not

658
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>open minded. They're not open minded. I don't I no

659
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 2>longer even play those games anymore. I'm like, you know what,

660
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I know what I saw, you saw you you don't

661
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>believe it. That's fine, that's okay, And but I'm starting

662
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.239
<v Speaker 2>to get it more on my channel. My my YouTube

663
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.800
<v Speaker 2>channel is squatch an fl and I'm going to be

664
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 2>building that up and I'm going to be putting more

665
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 2>of my old videos together and putting them out there

666
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>for people to see again now that I have my own,

667
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.719
<v Speaker 2>my own place to do it and let people make

668
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>their own decision on what they see.

669
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, we'll have I'll put the link to your

670
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 1>your channel in the show notes as well. So then

671
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>after you have these experiences, though, it sounded like you

672
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>started to have some that were definitely a better experience

673
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>after you started changing some things about how you were

674
00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>approaching it.

675
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I found an area another part of that same

676
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>preserve that I grew up on, but the other side

677
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>of it. And I don't know how I swear. I

678
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>had a dream. And you know they say these things

679
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>can get in your head, and I never would have

680
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 2>believed that. I never would have believed it. But the

681
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>more I was going out, the more I was having

682
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>these weird, vivid dreams all the time, and one of

683
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>the dreams, ironically enough, led me to this spot and

684
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I dreamt about it, so I can't explain it, but

685
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I went there and it was from the moment I

686
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 2>got there, I started having weird things always happening, but

687
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 2>they were never bad. I never had a bad feeling.

688
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 2>And ever since I got hit with that that whatever

689
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>they hit me with then, my ears felt bad. I'm

690
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>sensitive to it now, like a freaking beacon. Like I

691
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>walk into an area now and I'm like, pepepe peep peep.

692
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I can feel it. Whatever they're kicking out,

693
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>whatever that is, whether it be a frequency or whatever,

694
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's a defense mechanism they have. They

695
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>can somehow I'll hit you with a frequency. You know

696
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that that messes you up. I think they can use

697
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it the hunt with too. But whatever it is, I

698
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>pick up Martin now, I don't have answers for it,

699
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and I've been called I've been crazy for it. But

700
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever happened that day, it changed me for life. And

701
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I walk into the woods and I'm like, pepep peep,

702
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I got it, Like they got a

703
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 2>marker on them. Like I can tell you they're there,

704
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I can feel it. I feel the pressure, I feel

705
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, and it's usually right.

706
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.199
<v Speaker 1>That is extremely interesting what you just said, because it

707
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>actually just came up in another interview I did today

708
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's something I've experienced too. So you're saying that

709
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the pressure kind of changes when you're in the area. Yeah,

710
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 1>can you go is it pressure in your ears? Can

711
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 1>you go into that anymore? Explaining what you're experiencing.

712
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>When you walk in. When you walk in, it's like

713
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 2>when you're getting close to when one of them are

714
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 2>at it's almost like somebody put their fingers in your

715
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 2>ear and like putting pressure on it. It's like pressure

716
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>just took this weird pressure in your ear. I used

717
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.519
<v Speaker 2>to never I'd never gotten that before, Like almost like

718
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>when you're on an airplane and right before years pop.

719
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like that. It's just almost like a low

720
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>pressure you feel, and it's like and that pressure comes

721
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>with the anxiety feeling you start getting like like something's there,

722
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then it's like it all starts making

723
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>sense and it's like I get it every time I'm

724
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>around them now. And but what's weird though, is this

725
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 2>area this area it would do it at first, but

726
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the more I went in there, it stopped, and I

727
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.559
<v Speaker 2>realized that whatever was in there was accepting me more

728
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and more. I went through a bad separation, and I

729
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 2>went through it was I want to say it was

730
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 2>a bad separation. It was just a bad time of life.

731
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Like I went, I got very depressed, very down. So

732
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 2>I use that as my escape. I would go into

733
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the woods. Have to work every day, and I spent

734
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>for two years. I was going into this area all

735
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>like three four times a week. I'd go into this

736
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>area and just walk around, and I found half my

737
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 2>footprints came from this area, and I would walk in.

738
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>It got to the point where I would walk in.

739
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 2>This is the first area I started gifting too, but

740
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I was I would walk in the trail. There's two

741
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 2>trails to get into the woods back there, and it

742
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.320
<v Speaker 2>was behind county property. That was a fence line that

743
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.920
<v Speaker 2>went down and nobody went back there because of that.

744
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And I found one way you could go in without

745
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.719
<v Speaker 2>getting in trouble for it. And I talked to a

746
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>county worker and he said, yeah, as long as you're

747
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>not in the property, you're fine. As long as you're

748
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.440
<v Speaker 2>going back to that preserve. I was like, okay, so

749
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd gone in there forever and it ended up being

750
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 2>this is the area that if Marie ever talked about

751
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.960
<v Speaker 2>our active area, it's this one. Okay, this is our

752
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>active this is our active gifting area that we've had

753
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>all of our crazy stuff happen. We've gone in there

754
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 2>for years, and this family group is It started with me,

755
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 2>and then I brought more just Marie, and then when

756
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 2>me and Marie became friends, and then we've grown people

757
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 2>in there, and there's a group of us that go

758
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 2>in and throughout the years and we've never had anything wrong.

759
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.039
<v Speaker 2>We've been in there at night. We've never had any

760
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 2>of us have a problem back there ever. But we've

761
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 2>had so much interaction with him, taking things, moving things,

762
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 2>opening candy, finding some like I've I had two gifting spots.

763
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd go to one and there'd be gifts stuff that

764
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I left at this gifting spot where I find it.

765
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>The other one, the rappers like I would go walking

766
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 2>in and on the two trails, there'd be no footprints

767
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:33.920
<v Speaker 2>walking in. As I go to leave, I'd find five

768
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.559
<v Speaker 2>or six that followed behind me walking in, no footprints

769
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>that they're following me as I came in, like, oh,

770
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.119
<v Speaker 2>he's here, Like it was weird, man, like it was.

771
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 2>They got to the point where I could be about

772
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>seventy five yards away and I would see tree peakers

773
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 2>just a little and that's all you get. That's all

774
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:56.519
<v Speaker 2>you get. But they were just comfortable enough to where

775
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:58.920
<v Speaker 2>ast stuff like that was happening, and they got like

776
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.559
<v Speaker 2>that with all of us, Like it was, it was

777
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>pretty awesome.

778
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow that I'm remembering as you're talking talking to

779
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Marie about that area, and I think, was there something

780
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to do with, like you plush animals or stuffed animals

781
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>something like that as part of the gift of the process.

782
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Yep, the little bear. She We put the little bear there.

783
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 2>We had glass eyes, and we came back the first

784
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 2>time and it was face down in the mud with

785
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 2>the tag ripped off, and we're like, that's weird. So

786
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>every time we set this bear up, they would put

787
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>it down face down, like they didn't want to look

788
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.039
<v Speaker 2>at his eyes or something like, every time they'd face

789
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>it down. Maybe it was so weird. We put up

790
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>cameras out there and on left and the right side,

791
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 2>on the two trails. Everything stopped for three months all activity,

792
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, Marie, we gotta take these cameras out,

793
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>so that's what's doing it. And then one day stuff

794
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>started happening again, even when the camera's up, and I'm like,

795
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 2>all right, we checked the cameras, nothing on them. We

796
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>found the fence in the middle behind the gifting spot

797
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.559
<v Speaker 2>bent to the ground. They had ripped up the barbed wire,

798
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>stretched it up, bent the It looked like something said

799
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>on it, like this huge dent. They bent all the

800
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>barbed wire down and up out of the way, and

801
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 2>they made a passageway through the fence between the two

802
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 2>game cameras back to the gifting spot so they wouldn't

803
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>be seen on camera, Like, are you kidding me? It

804
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 2>was freaking cool. I found I found trip wire back there.

805
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>That was one of the coolest things I've ever found.

806
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>They took a vine that was about an inch and

807
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>a half around. So if you have a fence, you

808
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>know picture of the fences like this, the trail goes

809
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>down the fence on this trail over here. I always

810
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>called it the obstacle course because it was trees all leaning,

811
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:54.920
<v Speaker 2>all kind of funny all the way down the whole

812
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>fence line and I thought it was to keep people out.

813
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Now I realized that was for hunting. And what they

814
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 2>would do is that trail over here if a deer

815
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.599
<v Speaker 2>and okay, so you got your points right here, that's

816
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the fence line, and the trails run down this fence

817
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and on this fence. The trip wire was right here

818
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>at an angle. So if you're a squash stander right

819
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>here and they're running a deer this way, he only

820
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>has one way to go right into the tripwire. The

821
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>tripwire was like two and a half three feet off

822
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 2>the ground, perfect deer height. It was a vine and

823
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 2>they stretched it out about I don't know, thirty foot long.

824
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>It went around a tree, around another tree. It had

825
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>a piece of wood about this big in it and

826
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 2>twisted to hold the tension. It was a freaking trip wire.

827
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing. I couldn't believe it.

828
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>That's a really I don't think I've heard anything that

829
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:52.559
<v Speaker 1>comes close to that. I mean, what a great example

830
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of intelligence. Do you guys have any ideas of how

831
00:42:56.519 --> 00:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>many or are in that area you've got like a

832
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 1>certain sized group or anything like that.

833
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I found seven different sized footprints in that area.

834
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>This guy right here, he's the one that follows me

835
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 2>around all the time. Oh, these are his I think

836
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 2>he's a teenage male. Okay, wow, So I left. I

837
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 2>made this footprint. I came, I left it, I came

838
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to go. I made a casting of it, and I

839
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:32.360
<v Speaker 2>had to leave it. It was just about dark and

840
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.280
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't dry yet, so I left it and came

841
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>back the next morning to check on it. About a

842
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>foot away from it was this one. Okay, he walked

843
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 2>over and stood over it. He walked over it and

844
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.639
<v Speaker 2>stood over it. And that's why there's toes, I think,

845
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:51.559
<v Speaker 2>because he sat there longer, standing in this muddy area,

846
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 2>looking like, what the heck is up with this human?

847
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 2>And what is he making with my footprint? You know?

848
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>And then that one was there, so there's a matching set.

849
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Well actually, so like this.

850
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>That's cool?

851
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that this this footprint right here I found

852
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.519
<v Speaker 2>everywhere back there. I called him big toe because he

853
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 2>never left any any other toe prints, just a big toe.

854
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's injured or if he lifts

855
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.360
<v Speaker 2>him like that, you know, but he only left his

856
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 2>big toe. It's really odd.

857
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>And and what's the what's the length of those again?

858
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Those are thirteen, but they're not they're not super long,

859
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 2>but they're wide, super wide. Now this one's cool. This

860
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 2>one has a big one. This one is I think

861
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.239
<v Speaker 2>it was seventeen. But if you look inside of it,

862
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:53.719
<v Speaker 2>there's a double step. There's one walking inside of it

863
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>in which we find all over the place. So this

864
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 2>one's missing the toes up here. A lot of times

865
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 2>we get like, we'll get the like, we'll get the

866
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>pad right to here, and we all get the toes.

867
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times they were missing listen, so it's

868
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 2>hard to determine if it's a boot or if it's

869
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, almost as like a bootprint, but it's not.

870
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 2>But this one's basically missing the toes up here. But

871
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 2>you can see where another one stepped in it. Also,

872
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty pretty cool print. And I've got two of

873
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.559
<v Speaker 2>these also, almost all uh matching sets you know, from

874
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that area, and it was found seven through one crossing area,

875
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>seven different sizes. I found them all the way down

876
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>to six or seven inches, little tiny ones.

877
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. I know you mentioned learning a lot from

878
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>doctor Meldrum earlier in the interview. Is that a thing

879
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.519
<v Speaker 1>where you were ever able to get his thoughts on

880
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.119
<v Speaker 1>on any of the tracks that that you had been

881
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 1>able to cast.

882
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the first person I ever called was doctor Meldrum. Like,

883
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know who he was. I just seen him

884
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 2>on the documentaries. I didn't know anything. I just I

885
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 2>was blowing up in my brain. I wanted to talk

886
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.719
<v Speaker 2>to somebody, so I literally called Idaho State University and

887
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Anthropology department and he answered, and he talked to me.

888
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 2>He talked to a guy. He had no idea who

889
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 2>he was, and he talked to me for forty five minutes,

890
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>telling me what to do, how to do it, This

891
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>stupid hick from Florida. And he's telling me how to

892
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 2>do it because you know how proper he talks, and like,

893
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I felt so dumb talking to him. But he taught

894
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 2>me so much. And he was like, listen, I believe

895
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.280
<v Speaker 2>you're having things going, You're finding things. He's like, just

896
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>start recording it properly. Always give me a size comparison,

897
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and you can send him and share him with me

898
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.119
<v Speaker 2>anytime you want. So that's why I started doing and

899
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 2>ideveloped a little relationship. I'd never met him at the time,

900
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.599
<v Speaker 2>but I would, you know, just through messenger mostly and

901
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 2>then I got Scanaverse, and I would start sending him

902
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 2>stuff with Scanaverse over and he would and he would

903
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, it's got potential. If he said it's

904
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>got potential, I knew it was a good one. But

905
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 2>we did get to meet him one time, which was

906
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 2>it kind of changed everything. We got to meet him

907
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 2>in at the Great Florida big Foot Conference a few

908
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and he brought he came over. He came

909
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 2>over to our table and he's looking at our cast

910
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, he's like, these are from Florida. I said, yes, sir.

911
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.159
<v Speaker 2>He's like he was hold on and he walks over

912
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 2>to his booth and he came back with this. He

913
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 2>comes back over with the gray Harbor. Oh yeah, And

914
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, where's this going, you know? And he

915
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>put it up to our cast and he was like

916
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>showing how similar the heels and a lot of the

917
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 2>other stuff and all my about three casts that are

918
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 2>like very similar in size comparison to the heel. You know,

919
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 2>they're not this is what you get in Florida substrate.

920
00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 2>But there's one, this one is I did a three

921
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 2>D scan of this one and it is almost identical

922
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 2>to that print. Wow, you can see the big toepad.

923
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.360
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a weird print. We got this ad

924
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 2>a sugar sand. But you can see the big toepad

925
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:19.480
<v Speaker 2>up here. Yeah, it's kind of hard to see, but

926
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>it's the same size as that tope and everything on

927
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 2>it is almost exactly the same, just a lot uglier.

928
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Looking because of the because of the ground it was casting.

929
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Right, this was at a sugar sand. So he he

930
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>came over and like he's like, here, you know, you

931
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 2>can take this, and because because he was surprised and

932
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 2>how he didn't think they were that big in Florida either,

933
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 2>So that was like proof to him that these things

934
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 2>aren't changing how big they are throughout the country. That

935
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I think they change. How much they weigh. I think

936
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that changes, because I mean, you can't be as heavy

937
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.480
<v Speaker 2>masked as you are up north. You don't need it here,

938
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think it. I don't think they're

939
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 2>muscle structure changes. I don't think their height changes. I

940
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:16.119
<v Speaker 2>think they're just more like lean, you know, personally, that's

941
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 2>what we think.

942
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. The scan a verse app is something that comes

943
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.880
<v Speaker 1>up every once in a while, and I've heard it

944
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>when I've talked to Cliff, he will recommend it as well.

945
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you've used it more than a few times.

946
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice as of you know, things

947
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 1>you need to make sure that you do in order

948
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to get a good three D scan using that.

949
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna you can get a scan without service,

950
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's not. So you can still get your scan

951
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>without service, but you're gonna have to wait till you

952
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>get service to process it and make it work. So

953
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 2>it'll just kind of stay there and you can come back.

954
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 2>So don't don't think just bec you don't have service,

955
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.280
<v Speaker 2>you can't use it, because you can, but you can

956
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:04.639
<v Speaker 2>get it. You'll just kind of stay there till you

957
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 2>have service, and then then you can process it and

958
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 2>go through it. And it works better in low and

959
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 2>not direct sunlight, like if you have bright bright light

960
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 2>on a print, it doesn't pick it up that good.

961
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 2>It's almost better. And like sunlight with shade, like a

962
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.119
<v Speaker 2>like a shade like a shadowy area. So if you

963
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>can have someone kind of cast a shadow block the

964
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.280
<v Speaker 2>sun into your skin and take your time, take your

965
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 2>time with it, and roll it, just roll them. That's

966
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 2>what I just kind of go. I roll them as

967
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I go, and it gets it all the way through,

968
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you know.

969
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so you're not just holding it flat above. You're

970
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.679
<v Speaker 1>making sure that you get all the front corners and

971
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 1>the edges and the difference.

972
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I go down, I go down into the toes, right,

973
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I roll it down into the toes and roll it

974
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.440
<v Speaker 2>out and just like you were, following the every contour

975
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 2>of the foot. It's pretty much how I do it.

976
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 1>That's really good to know. Yeah, I had never thought

977
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of that aspect of it. That's that's something for me

978
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to learn and try next time I go out there.

979
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 1>But my goodness, so really, I mean this this one area.

980
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I already know that it is a super active area

981
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>from talking to Marie a few times. Were you also

982
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 1>with Marie when she went out to the Pacific Northwest?

983
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yeah.

984
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any any things that you remember from

985
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.039
<v Speaker 1>that trip, any interesting memories or things that you experienced

986
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 1>by going out there?

987
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, oh yeah. It was. It was a different world,

988
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. You took a bunch of Florida people

989
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and David Sheeley went with us. May had all these

990
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, you got me and David going out to

991
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the Pacific north West. We were lost.

992
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.320
<v Speaker 2>We were like where are we at? You know, like

993
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and it was cool though it was such an adventure.

994
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Christina came also. She was kind of just getting in

995
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she was part of the group yet.

996
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.280
<v Speaker 2>She was just my girlfriend at the time, and but

997
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Marine and all them new her very well, and shortly

998
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:19.840
<v Speaker 2>after I think she became part of the group. But

999
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 2>we had a blast up there, but we blew everybody

1000
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.239
<v Speaker 2>away away up there, Like William Beeson, like he was like,

1001
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 2>like we went out and like the first day he

1002
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 2>couldn't go with us. They gave us a jeep to use.

1003
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 2>So we go out, you know, and we we're from Florida,

1004
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:41.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're ain't scared of nothing. So I'm walking

1005
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 2>around with just a bowie knife like I do in

1006
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the woods here, and we go up and we find

1007
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.320
<v Speaker 2>bear prints and we find all kinds of stuff. But

1008
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:50.840
<v Speaker 2>we actually found a footprint too. We found a really

1009
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>really nice footprint. David found it, and then we found

1010
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.880
<v Speaker 2>more later. But David found a really nice seventeen his

1011
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 2>footprint going up the side of the mountain. You could

1012
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.639
<v Speaker 2>see the way it's the way it's the ball of

1013
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 2>its foot had like a big bunyon and when it

1014
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 2>when it moved to go up the hill, it twisted

1015
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and you can see it. It's so clear how it

1016
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.280
<v Speaker 2>went up. It was a really cool print.

1017
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Was that over north of Spokan or was that Olympic

1018
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Peninsula Medaling Falls?

1019
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1020
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so north of Spokane, Okay.

1021
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:26.639
<v Speaker 2>By the cold Coldville, Coldville Forest, I believe yep up

1022
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>up in the Coldville Forest area. Well, we were walking

1023
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 2>around that whole day by ourself, and then William Beeson

1024
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 2>came out with us the next day. He wanted to

1025
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 2>take us up to this up the mountain, to this

1026
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.360
<v Speaker 2>private or this hidden lake that's up there where they've

1027
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of stuff happen. And so we get

1028
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.599
<v Speaker 2>up there and we get out of the jeep and

1029
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 2>he gets out and he goes to the back and

1030
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.760
<v Speaker 2>he grabs on his hip. He's got like a fifty

1031
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.440
<v Speaker 2>cow on his hip. Then he grabs a freaking ar

1032
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 2>puts it. I'm like, holy cow, going on, William, He's

1033
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.239
<v Speaker 2>like our bill. He's like he's like Mike, we have

1034
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 2>two hundred pounds wolves, we have thousand pound grizzlies. And

1035
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like what I was like, you just let me

1036
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 2>walk around this whole place yesterday with a knife. Holy cow, dude.

1037
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.519
<v Speaker 2>So that was it was pretty funny. He is an

1038
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 2>awesome guy. They were, they were. That was a phenomenal trip.

1039
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 2>We got to meet Thomas Seawood over in this uh

1040
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>place where he was staying, and we got to sign

1041
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.719
<v Speaker 2>the foot Oh.

1042
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly. Now, you had said earlier that you actually

1043
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.280
<v Speaker 1>learned some interesting things from from Tom when you were

1044
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.840
<v Speaker 1>talking to him. Is that anything. Are you able to

1045
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.400
<v Speaker 1>share any of the things that he taught you?

1046
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's just he just he's he's funny. He

1047
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.760
<v Speaker 2>cracks me up, man, Like he's so forward. He's like

1048
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>silly white man. It just cracks me up. And he's

1049
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 2>like the things he said to have made sense. He's like,

1050
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 2>how would you feel if someone just came into your backyard,

1051
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 2>opened up your back door to your house, came in

1052
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and sat down on your couch while you were sitting

1053
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:12.360
<v Speaker 2>there watching TV? Would you be pissed? And I'm like, yeah,

1054
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.679
<v Speaker 2>I would absolutely. He told respect him, he said, respect him,

1055
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Show them respect, and you'll get respect back. And I

1056
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.679
<v Speaker 2>started doing that. So every time I walk into the forest.

1057
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Now that that same area or a gifting area. I

1058
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.199
<v Speaker 2>learned their sounds. I learned a lot of sounds from

1059
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that area, and by myself spending time out there, I

1060
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.000
<v Speaker 2>learned a lot of different sounds. And I never got

1061
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 2>scared out there. That was an area I never felt

1062
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 2>any type of fear when I was there by myself,

1063
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 2>but I would hear so I started noticing when I

1064
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:46.880
<v Speaker 2>first started going in there, you would hear the bard

1065
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:51.639
<v Speaker 2>owt call. Well, it'd be no matter what time of

1066
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.920
<v Speaker 2>day you went, you'd hear, and then you'd hear it

1067
00:55:54.920 --> 00:56:00.199
<v Speaker 2>two more times in the distance, and another side they

1068
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.360
<v Speaker 2>do it twice every time twice, And it wasn't bard ouse,

1069
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.000
<v Speaker 2>it was them that's there there. They mimic them, and

1070
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:10.599
<v Speaker 2>they're that's they're they're they're letting you know someone's here,

1071
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 2>someone's here, someone's here. And then you'd be out in

1072
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 2>the forest, you're walking around, and I started hearing just

1073
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 2>one and you'd hear another one out in the distance,

1074
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 2>and then another one, Like they're just little subtle things,

1075
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 2>but they're communicating, they're letting you know where they're at.

1076
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 2>And then I've never I've heard tree knocks, and I've

1077
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 2>heard some things but I have. I haven't experienced it

1078
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 2>probably as much as some people have. I mean, I've

1079
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.760
<v Speaker 2>heard tree knocks, but I'm kind of on the on

1080
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the same way Thomas told me. He's like, tree knocks

1081
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 2>are to tell you to leave. So all these people

1082
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.800
<v Speaker 2>running around doing tree knocks, banging trees and stuff, I

1083
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.840
<v Speaker 2>don't personally go into that. I never really did. I

1084
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>did a little bit, but after talking to Thomas, I

1085
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.679
<v Speaker 2>really stopped doing it. And he said, that's that's them

1086
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 2>telling you, whack, get out of my area. Whack, you know, like,

1087
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of makes sense when you walk into

1088
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 2>a place. And I kind of go by that a

1089
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Now I don't. I don't really whack trees,

1090
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.719
<v Speaker 2>but I do make my sound, and that's my sound,

1091
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.599
<v Speaker 2>copying what they do. But now they know that's my sound,

1092
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and everywhere I've gone into, I've established that sound. When

1093
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I come into the I go into going to a

1094
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:30.119
<v Speaker 2>new area, I'm just oooh, you know. And I and

1095
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I have I don't have any issues. I talk to

1096
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 2>them when I'm in the woods. Now I'm like, hey, guys,

1097
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm here with my family or I'm here with a friend.

1098
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to come into your forest. We're not here

1099
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to hurt you. I'm not a hunter. You know. I

1100
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.639
<v Speaker 2>talk everywhere I go now, and believe it or not,

1101
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean it completely makes that if you go into

1102
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 2>an area and you start feeling that pressure like oh

1103
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>my god, like like something's close to me. I'm getting

1104
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a little nervous. I'm starting to get kind of scared

1105
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.639
<v Speaker 2>that feeling. Start talking to them, Hey, I'm not here

1106
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 2>to hurt you. I'm not I'm not a I'm sorry.

1107
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 2>You know. Is it okay if we come forward? Is

1108
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.400
<v Speaker 2>it okay? If it's not, let me know, make a sound,

1109
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:11.119
<v Speaker 2>do something. And usually you feel that calm down and

1110
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:14.159
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, I don't feel threatened anymore, and like

1111
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 2>that threatening feeling just goes away. It's kind of incredible.

1112
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is it, and that is wild man. Oh

1113
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.559
<v Speaker 1>my goodness. Have you ever asked for a response and

1114
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:23.480
<v Speaker 1>gotten something?

1115
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 2>I've I wouldn't say I've asked for it and got it.

1116
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I've done it. I would love to get to that.

1117
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:36.039
<v Speaker 2>I've asked, hey, can we see you? But I've had

1118
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:38.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things. I've had a lot of responses

1119
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to my sounds, but I haven't had a response to

1120
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.559
<v Speaker 2>that I haven't had like direct take can I can

1121
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.480
<v Speaker 2>you make a sound and they make a sound, you know,

1122
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:48.440
<v Speaker 2>but like my son will go out there and if

1123
00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he's out like, they love him and he'll go out

1124
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and they'll like on one time he got scared because

1125
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:55.360
<v Speaker 2>they came in so close to him. They wanted to

1126
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>come see him. I think the little ones did. He

1127
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was out there, who oh, and then you hear for

1128
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:03.360
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes this went on and they get one came

1129
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:07.719
<v Speaker 2>up and it hooed about I don't know, maybe thirty

1130
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.679
<v Speaker 2>feet away from us, and he started crying, all right, dad,

1131
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.599
<v Speaker 2>I want to go. I want to go. But it wasn't.

1132
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, you're out here making sounds. It

1133
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:16.599
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see what was going on. You know.

1134
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>That's fat It is absolutely fascinating how how young young

1135
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:32.000
<v Speaker 1>children can play into or almost really attract bigfoot activity.

1136
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's a that's a whole discussion in itself, but

1137
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of talking about that before the episode started.

1138
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And do you mind talking a bit about the the

1139
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Legend Seekers Florida series that is starting to be not

1140
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>a development Yeah.

1141
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, not at all. So I'm a big believer

1142
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>RPG is a big believer Daniel Barnett. We're a big

1143
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.880
<v Speaker 2>believer that there's something with being on the spectrum. Absolutely

1144
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:08.480
<v Speaker 2>that is being a narrow divergent person. I'm extremely ADHD

1145
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and my superpower is I can go in and tell you

1146
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.559
<v Speaker 2>who the bad guy is in the room. I feel everything.

1147
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm empathetic, but I feel everything like

1148
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you when something's going on. I'm super

1149
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 2>aware of everything. My son's like that, he's ADHD really bad,

1150
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and he's selected mutism. So Kaylin, just like Daniel Barnett

1151
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:32.800
<v Speaker 2>selected mutism. And what that is is they didn't speak

1152
01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:35.679
<v Speaker 2>to They had selective people their brain would let them

1153
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 2>talk to. It's a legit deal and it's part of

1154
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the autism scale. And my son he didn't talk till

1155
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 2>he was three and a half years old. And this

1156
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:46.639
<v Speaker 2>is what's really awesome because if you see our videos

1157
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.039
<v Speaker 2>together now and you hear him talking, and he got

1158
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>on stage with me now in front of two thousand people,

1159
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll getting in a minute. But like, this kid literally

1160
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.400
<v Speaker 2>had such a hard start. He three and a half

1161
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 2>years old. Before he started talking, he would only hum

1162
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:05.000
<v Speaker 2>like I love you. He'd go hmmmmmmmm mm hmm. He

1163
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 2>would only hum stuff, and so that was the first

1164
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 2>hurdle he got past that. He started talking, but his

1165
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:14.199
<v Speaker 2>motor skills were ninety eight percentile. He was walking at

1166
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>eight months old, he was running at nine months, but

1167
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 2>he didn't talk till he was three and a half

1168
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:20.000
<v Speaker 2>years old. Doctor said he maybe he just didn't want to.

1169
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And so fast forward a little bit. When he started talking.

1170
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Then it was only to me and mom, and we

1171
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't think anything of it at first, but it got

1172
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 2>as he got older, like he started school, and it continued,

1173
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:36.480
<v Speaker 2>like he would not talk to a teacher. He didn't

1174
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.679
<v Speaker 2>talk to a teacher until he was in fourth grade

1175
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:42.400
<v Speaker 2>almost wow. Didn't talk, so and kids would. Kids would

1176
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:43.840
<v Speaker 2>mess with him and pick on him, and they knew

1177
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.760
<v Speaker 2>that he wouldn't say anything, so we would have to

1178
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:47.599
<v Speaker 2>get fun. He got in fights with kids because he

1179
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 2>would he would lash out instead of instead of because

1180
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.519
<v Speaker 2>he didn't talk, he couldn't tell a teacher that they

1181
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.400
<v Speaker 2>were being mean. He'd just eventually had enough. And but

1182
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 2>we'd find him underneath desk, hiding underneath tables, crying and hiding,

1183
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.519
<v Speaker 2>and he didn't know how to communicate. He didn't talk.

1184
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:04.320
<v Speaker 2>He would only talk to us the coach when he

1185
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:06.519
<v Speaker 2>played football, he would only talk to us. Same thing

1186
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 2>with Daniel Barnett, where if you talk to his dad,

1187
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's what he went through. And we joke and

1188
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:18.239
<v Speaker 2>we say that Sasquatch Bigfoot, they healed them because they

1189
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:20.079
<v Speaker 2>both had their lives changed by going out in the

1190
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.000
<v Speaker 2>field doing this in the presence of these things where

1191
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.039
<v Speaker 2>we have found evidence and where we've been at with

1192
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 2>these things, something's different with my kid. Now he's there's

1193
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.840
<v Speaker 2>it's gone. There is no more selected mutism. It's gone.

1194
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:37.800
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't He's the most normal, talkative, chatty kid you've

1195
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. And now, like we just did a you'll

1196
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.719
<v Speaker 2>see it coming out on Friday. We just did an

1197
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:48.719
<v Speaker 2>interview with Stacy Brown. We just did his show and

1198
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:52.199
<v Speaker 2>so that's Friday that's coming out. We've been on Brian

1199
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 2>King Sharps on Sasquatch Odyssey and together and he's awesome.

1200
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:01.719
<v Speaker 2>He's his asked some questions. I'll talk to you. This

1201
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 2>was a kid who didn't talk. He got on stage

1202
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 2>with me at the conference in front of two thousand

1203
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:10.320
<v Speaker 2>people and talked. So anyway, because of that, him and

1204
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Daniel had that in common, and RPG and Daniel and

1205
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Chris they came up with legend Seekers. And what they're

1206
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to do is it's an angle of getting more

1207
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:29.239
<v Speaker 2>family and oriented show in the Sasquatch Bigfoot Research and

1208
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:33.639
<v Speaker 2>RPG lives only about forty five minutes for me thirty

1209
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Speaker 2>forty five minutes. And his children and my children are

1210
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:37.840
<v Speaker 2>really good friends. They become really good friends with each other,

1211
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:40.599
<v Speaker 2>and we've been going out filming with each other and

1212
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.559
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be doing a Legend Seekers. It's gonna be

1213
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a docu series on YouTube. It's on the Legend Seekers

1214
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Network and it's gonna be a Florida version that they're

1215
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna do and then after each episode they do legend

1216
01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Seekers uncut. So we just did one of those today

1217
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:04.239
<v Speaker 2>and that was me, Christina and Christina's daughter Kate, because

1218
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 2>we had a recent experience happened I'll tell you about

1219
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 2>in a minute, but so we're really excited about it

1220
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that and I mean, you know, if you've seen My

1221
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot Life, they're they they're they're really good with how

1222
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 2>they how they did it, and they want to try

1223
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and do something with Kaylin kind of like a legend

1224
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.079
<v Speaker 2>seekers version of my bigfoot life too, to let the

1225
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 2>world know about him. It's awesome, man, Like, they're they're

1226
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:30.119
<v Speaker 2>really good people. They're phenomenal people. And then and for

1227
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:31.840
<v Speaker 2>them to want to do that with my son is

1228
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:35.920
<v Speaker 2>really cool, you know, and and get let's we're doing

1229
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.239
<v Speaker 2>this as a family and still finding things, and actually

1230
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.400
<v Speaker 2>we're finding more, We're having more things happen, which is

1231
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:44.199
<v Speaker 2>what I can go into now if you want me to.

1232
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you about what just happened with me

1233
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and my family, which is freaking awesome.

1234
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I definitely want to hear about that. I

1235
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:55.400
<v Speaker 1>do want to comment on on something that you said

1236
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes ago, where it's just a weird pattern

1237
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<v Speaker 1>that comes up in interviews where people have some sort

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01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 1>of interaction and they are changed in different ways. And

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up how your son was changed in this way.

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01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 1>There's also people that have been healed in different ways

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01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:27.079
<v Speaker 1>or have different abilities come out, ranging from being more

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01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:31.480
<v Speaker 1>aware of their area or even telepathy. And it's just

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01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:37.480
<v Speaker 1>it's such an interesting pattern that I'm starting to notice

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01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not quite sure where it all is going

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01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to lead, but I would love to hear more about

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01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:47.599
<v Speaker 1>what you guys have just experienced recently as a family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just fallo able what you said, Like, I

1248
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:55.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know one hundred percent. I don't understand it. But

1249
01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:00.599
<v Speaker 2>these things really enjoy good, positive energy around them. Oh yeah,

1250
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:04.360
<v Speaker 2>they pick up on I believe that they are. They're good,

1251
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and I believe that they pick up like animals, right,

1252
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Like animals pick up on good people, good energy. Some

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01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.119
<v Speaker 2>animals they don't want to if you're not a good person,

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01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:13.840
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to be around you. And I think

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01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.559
<v Speaker 2>they're the same way. I think they really pick up

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01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.760
<v Speaker 2>on it. And when I'm in the forest with my

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01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 2>family is the happiest time in my life. I'm with

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01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:23.719
<v Speaker 2>a woman I love, I'm with my kids. They're laughing,

1259
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.840
<v Speaker 2>having fun, we're exploring. We've turned it into this like

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01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:31.000
<v Speaker 2>giant scavenger hunt. We're trying to find footprints. And my

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01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:33.360
<v Speaker 2>daughter is starting to pick up on it now too.

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01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 2>She's seven, Kylie, and so Kaylen and Kylie, they're my kids.

1263
01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:40.360
<v Speaker 2>And so Kylie's coming up behind Kaylen now and she's

1264
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 2>tired of being left out and she's like, Dad, I

1265
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.360
<v Speaker 2>want to go out more. And so I've been taking

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01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:47.559
<v Speaker 2>her she's the cutest thing ever. She goes in the forest,

1267
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 2>She's like big Foot, I love you. I'm sorry. She's

1268
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.719
<v Speaker 2>the cutest thing. She leaves them little gifts every time

1269
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:58.159
<v Speaker 2>we go out. So I moved. Me and Christina got

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01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:02.119
<v Speaker 2>a house and we went from Pasco County up to

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01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Hernando County, which is close to Brooksville, Florida. And there's

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01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:14.719
<v Speaker 2>this area has like the main corridor that runs up

1273
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:23.079
<v Speaker 2>the west side of Florida from basically Wiki Watchie Area

1274
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 2>all the way up through the Panhandle. It's one giant corridor.

1275
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>That's where that corridor stops there and connects over to

1276
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.639
<v Speaker 2>all the corridors that connect to the Green Swamp, through

1277
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the corridor that goes through where I was having my

1278
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:37.599
<v Speaker 2>stuff happen, and all that connects into the Hillsborough River.

1279
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.639
<v Speaker 2>It's all one big connecting circle that if you wanted

1280
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 2>to you could never be seen. And it's really really

1281
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 2>cool how it works when you pay attention to it.

1282
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.760
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so now that I'm up here, i haven't

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01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:50.320
<v Speaker 2>got to go to that other area where I had

1284
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.719
<v Speaker 2>all this crazy stuff happen. So I've been focusing over

1285
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:55.440
<v Speaker 2>here and I've been meeting other people, and I met

1286
01:07:55.719 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Mike Noga and he had a say

1287
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:03.960
<v Speaker 2>sighting at a cemetery out here, and we started talking

1288
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 2>and my friend Frank Middleton. I don't know if you

1289
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:08.639
<v Speaker 2>ever ever met Frank Middleton or not.

1290
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Frank quite a bit, Yes.

1291
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Frank's awesome. Frank Frank. Yeah. And so I've got

1292
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:20.520
<v Speaker 2>to go out with Frank and and Mike a couple

1293
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:25.479
<v Speaker 2>of times, and we've we've went, we've we've camped out

1294
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:27.680
<v Speaker 2>in these areas together, hung out a lot, and I've

1295
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:30.399
<v Speaker 2>really gotten to become good friends with Frank, and Mike's

1296
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:32.479
<v Speaker 2>becoming a good friend of mine. You'll hear about Mike

1297
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and eventually, I promise you he's he's he's got the

1298
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:38.039
<v Speaker 2>thirst for you, you know what I mean, Like, he's he's

1299
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:40.000
<v Speaker 2>he's a young researcher that's really starting to have a

1300
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:43.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of things happen. So we go out in this

1301
01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:45.680
<v Speaker 2>area and I went into another part of the area

1302
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.560
<v Speaker 2>away from his a little bit where I was like,

1303
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:50.239
<v Speaker 2>if I'm something, this is where i'd be. And we

1304
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:52.960
<v Speaker 2>started finding a lot of cool things. Let me go

1305
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.960
<v Speaker 2>fast forward. We me and Christina and her two kids

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01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.720
<v Speaker 2>the other night were like let's just for a jeep ride.

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01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:02.239
<v Speaker 2>We're bored, we had nothing to do. It was a

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01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Friday night, so we take the jeep and to get

1309
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:09.000
<v Speaker 2>into this area where we wanted to go trail ride.

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01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:13.600
<v Speaker 2>You really probably aren't allowed to be there, but there's

1311
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 2>a trail to get in if you know how to go.

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01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 2>If you have a jeep, you can get in there.

1313
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:18.560
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't get in there with a truck. But I

1314
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.119
<v Speaker 2>have a jeep small enough to get in, so that's

1315
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.840
<v Speaker 2>what I did. I pulled in and came down. That's

1316
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 2>like a four wheeler trail. Basically. I came in and

1317
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I started to go. You got to go down the hill,

1318
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:34.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's through an area that's been mined, like

1319
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:36.880
<v Speaker 2>they mined right through the middle of it. I don't

1320
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:38.600
<v Speaker 2>know how many years ago, on hundred years ago, I

1321
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know. So you go start going down the road.

1322
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 2>There's a limestone road that goes through it. And as

1323
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.199
<v Speaker 2>we came over the hill, we were there fifteen seconds

1324
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was not filming, and I kicked myself for this.

1325
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.079
<v Speaker 2>It was about eight o'clock. We start going down the

1326
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:55.199
<v Speaker 2>hill and you know when you your how your high

1327
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:58.199
<v Speaker 2>beams are your how your beams project ahead. If you're

1328
01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:00.560
<v Speaker 2>about to go down a hill. So the hills like

1329
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 2>this and your jeep's coming like this, you're hitting up

1330
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:07.720
<v Speaker 2>high right. Well, I got the right about here, and

1331
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:12.039
<v Speaker 2>I saw these two eyeballs this bit and that far apart,

1332
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:14.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was about five foot off the ground. Bam.

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01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I stopped. I went oh my to everybody, and they

1334
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:19.119
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden the jeep went oh my, and

1335
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:26.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just these giant eyeballs, bright greenish yellow. Bam. And

1336
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my. And it went and looked this way,

1337
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.399
<v Speaker 2>looked back, and then it stood up three foot taller,

1338
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:36.880
<v Speaker 2>and I went, oh, Mike, we're watching this thing. And

1339
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:41.279
<v Speaker 2>it just goes and her her daughter goes, oh Mike.

1340
01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:44.359
<v Speaker 2>And then it looked away this way, looked back again,

1341
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:49.159
<v Speaker 2>put his head down and took three funky steps and

1342
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.640
<v Speaker 2>was in the little forest going and wow, like and

1343
01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I hear, Kate go, Kate go, did you I said, kay,

1344
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.479
<v Speaker 2>did you see that? She's like his eyes were so bright,

1345
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and and she goes, did you see the deer? And

1346
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I didn't even notice there were deer

1347
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 2>there because I was so focused on him. She said,

1348
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:08.079
<v Speaker 2>there were two deer, two smaller green green eyes behind it,

1349
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:12.319
<v Speaker 2>about ten yards behind it. He was hunting, we think

1350
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:14.520
<v Speaker 2>he was hunting, and he was behind this big tree.

1351
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 2>As we came over the hill, he was right there

1352
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.560
<v Speaker 2>at the tree. She crunched down because he was like

1353
01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:22.079
<v Speaker 2>this looking, you know, at the deer, and he turned

1354
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:25.239
<v Speaker 2>his head like that at us, and that's when he

1355
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.760
<v Speaker 2>turned and then he stood up and was like, oh

1356
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:36.119
<v Speaker 2>so oh. It was like it was it was so awesome,

1357
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know if I have a little video

1358
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:40.439
<v Speaker 2>I put out and it's just the video of us

1359
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:44.039
<v Speaker 2>being excited, like like we're so excited like a little kid.

1360
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:48.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm sorry, I blinded you. Like it was.

1361
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:52.640
<v Speaker 2>It was awesome, like the whole family, Christina. Christina said

1362
01:11:52.680 --> 01:11:56.720
<v Speaker 2>she looked and was like she said, she blinked like

1363
01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:58.439
<v Speaker 2>a long blink and opened her eyes and it was

1364
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:00.920
<v Speaker 2>still there, Like this is real. Because she had not

1365
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:04.520
<v Speaker 2>had she had not had a real encounter. She'd had

1366
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:06.399
<v Speaker 2>things following us. She's been in the woods, We've had

1367
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:08.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of weird stuff happened. But that was there

1368
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.479
<v Speaker 2>and it was no taking it back. You know, it

1369
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.880
<v Speaker 2>was there and that was really cool. That's what we

1370
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:18.439
<v Speaker 2>talked about today on the Legend Seekers as we all

1371
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:22.600
<v Speaker 2>three were on there talking about what just happened with that.

1372
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>That's exciting stuff.

1373
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:29.560
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was so cool. Well three days later,

1374
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.000
<v Speaker 2>three days later, all right, my son and my daughter

1375
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.199
<v Speaker 2>are jealous. They're so jealous that they didn't get to

1376
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>see that. And I picked them up. They had a

1377
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:40.039
<v Speaker 2>day off on Monday. There it was some holiday and

1378
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.680
<v Speaker 2>last Monday it was two Mondays ago. This was just

1379
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:49.000
<v Speaker 2>last week, a week before, and so that happened Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

1380
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.640
<v Speaker 2>then Monday. I picked them up. We had just enough time.

1381
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:53.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, on the way home, let's go

1382
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:54.800
<v Speaker 2>out there. I'll take you guys out. We go drive

1383
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:56.560
<v Speaker 2>around a little bit, go check out, and we'll check

1384
01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.119
<v Speaker 2>the gifting spots. And you know, I wanted to put

1385
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.880
<v Speaker 2>some apples out and put some different things out in

1386
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.920
<v Speaker 2>this area and start trying to make it friendly. So

1387
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I take him over there. We walk up to to

1388
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.680
<v Speaker 2>where it's at where we saw him, and there's another

1389
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.399
<v Speaker 2>little area. I went in and there's a game trail

1390
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:16.399
<v Speaker 2>back there, and I found footprints on the game trail.

1391
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.119
<v Speaker 2>They weren't huge, they were not the ones that matched him,

1392
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 2>but they were definitely footprints, and there was four of

1393
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:23.560
<v Speaker 2>them in a row. My daughter's like, oh, I see

1394
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:25.640
<v Speaker 2>one too, Like, we're following this footprint. I got like

1395
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:27.680
<v Speaker 2>we did a little video. I was like, we're following

1396
01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:31.439
<v Speaker 2>the footprints, you know, And I made a cast. I

1397
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.039
<v Speaker 2>came back and made the cast. It was this one.

1398
01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:41.479
<v Speaker 2>See how good the toes are? Oh wow?

1399
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So I made it was on a rock.

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01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:47.840
<v Speaker 2>This was a rock that it was on top of,

1401
01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:51.640
<v Speaker 2>but the toes are awesome on it. And so there

1402
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.640
<v Speaker 2>was this was the best one to get. So I

1403
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.640
<v Speaker 2>made that cat. Well. I called Christine. I'm like, hey,

1404
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any plaster, but we found some footprints.

1405
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Can you come meet us. She's like, yeah, i'll come eat.

1406
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:05.520
<v Speaker 2>So she came at fifteen minutes from our house and

1407
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:07.479
<v Speaker 2>she came and met me, and I made the cast

1408
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:10.159
<v Speaker 2>and like, let's go for a little hike while it's

1409
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:14.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, while the cast, the plaster's drying. So now

1410
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm with my son and my daughter and her and

1411
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.479
<v Speaker 2>we go down this little horse trail that goes back

1412
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:21.800
<v Speaker 2>through these hills. And as I'm coming back, it's getting

1413
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.119
<v Speaker 2>like thirty maybe twenty minutes before dark, and I got

1414
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a little turned around and I missed my turn where

1415
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.279
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go. So I'm like, shoot, I'm looking

1416
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:31.920
<v Speaker 2>at my GPS. I'm like, we got to go straight

1417
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:34.039
<v Speaker 2>this way. We're just going to go through the woods, guys,

1418
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.319
<v Speaker 2>let's just do it, you know. So we went off

1419
01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:39.520
<v Speaker 2>off trail straight through the woods and I ended up

1420
01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:41.079
<v Speaker 2>in this little valley and went up a hill and

1421
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.319
<v Speaker 2>down into this little valley. And it was for Florida,

1422
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.720
<v Speaker 2>sixty foot down into a valley is very rare. You

1423
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:49.119
<v Speaker 2>don't have stuff like that. And we're walking into this

1424
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:55.159
<v Speaker 2>valley and I just froze. Dude. It was five and

1425
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.920
<v Speaker 2>a half foot tall, standing on the right hand side

1426
01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:02.600
<v Speaker 2>of the trail, standing there, and it took one, two,

1427
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:06.560
<v Speaker 2>three steps and went to all four and when it

1428
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:09.680
<v Speaker 2>hit it was it never missed a beat. I stopped, Oh,

1429
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:12.680
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. And he just went. He was twenty

1430
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:16.960
<v Speaker 2>yards away, at most twenty yards. He was right there,

1431
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:19.439
<v Speaker 2>and he went. He was going from right to left.

1432
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.399
<v Speaker 2>He was over here, and he took two steps, three steps,

1433
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and on like the It was like probably the third

1434
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.039
<v Speaker 2>step he went down to all fours and He wasn't

1435
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.199
<v Speaker 2>much taller than me, but he was twice as wide,

1436
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:34.359
<v Speaker 2>and it had the most I'll never forget this, the

1437
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:38.199
<v Speaker 2>most beautiful hair I've ever seen on an animal, on

1438
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.520
<v Speaker 2>a creature or anything in the wild. His hair was

1439
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:43.439
<v Speaker 2>jet black and it looked like it had been blowed,

1440
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:46.600
<v Speaker 2>dried and brushed. It was perfect, like almost like a

1441
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:52.119
<v Speaker 2>sheine to it. Wow, it was beautiful. And he freaking

1442
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:56.560
<v Speaker 2>my son saw it. And my son didn't see him

1443
01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.600
<v Speaker 2>go to didn't see him go to all fours. He

1444
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:01.119
<v Speaker 2>just saw him moving because when it hit the grass,

1445
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>it didn't stop. It was I didn't. It was so

1446
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:07.079
<v Speaker 2>natural for that thing to go to all fours and

1447
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:09.920
<v Speaker 2>it was like it hit another gear and he went through,

1448
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:14.000
<v Speaker 2>piling through the bushes. Christina never saw it. My daughter

1449
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:15.560
<v Speaker 2>never saw it because we were in line with each

1450
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.079
<v Speaker 2>other and it just was crossing right in front of us.

1451
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:20.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, they could hear it, but they never could

1452
01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.520
<v Speaker 2>see it. The way he was running up it. My

1453
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.840
<v Speaker 2>son I picked him up as as as he's running off,

1454
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.159
<v Speaker 2>and my son can see his head and his back

1455
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:31.479
<v Speaker 2>and then it goes to two legs and goes back

1456
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:35.520
<v Speaker 2>up the hill back the two legs and goes up

1457
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and was gone, like, oh my god, that just happened,

1458
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:46.800
<v Speaker 2>like bonowesh, like we just watched up. We just watched

1459
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:51.560
<v Speaker 2>a young sasquatch go running in front of us, and like,

1460
01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything move the way that thing moved.

1461
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I'd never seen something so well maintained and beautiful like

1462
01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:03.000
<v Speaker 2>this thing was beautiful, Like I was blown away.

1463
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:06.319
<v Speaker 1>My goodness, what And that just happened within the last

1464
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:10.199
<v Speaker 1>few weeks. You're saying, yeah, yes.

1465
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.920
<v Speaker 2>We we we've had and and so that had just

1466
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:17.199
<v Speaker 2>happened a week and a half ago. Wow, that just happened.

1467
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.720
<v Speaker 2>And it was three days apart from the eye shine,

1468
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and about three days before that eye shine, we had

1469
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.119
<v Speaker 2>another quick eye shine, Like as I was pulling down

1470
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that same road to take you in, something walked out

1471
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:31.800
<v Speaker 2>and went back in like that. It was quick, so

1472
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:33.640
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like one hundred percent like I know, I

1473
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.319
<v Speaker 2>saw eyes, they were it were yellow screen. Again. I

1474
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:38.199
<v Speaker 2>was like, dude, I just saw something, but it was

1475
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:42.600
<v Speaker 2>like that this was We watched it for fifteen seconds

1476
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.399
<v Speaker 2>doing this, you know, and then this thing crossed in

1477
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:50.319
<v Speaker 2>front of us. It was like what what everybody dreams

1478
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:55.199
<v Speaker 2>to see? And I wasn't filming. Wow, I don't.

1479
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's yeah, that is usually what happens.

1480
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'd have since bought a body camera and

1481
01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I've gone into that area. I actually went in there

1482
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:08.960
<v Speaker 2>yesterday and I just put some stuff up in there.

1483
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I put some apples in there. My secret is Recy's

1484
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Rec's peanut butter cups. They love Recey's peanut butter cups.

1485
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Once they get a taste for them, they want them.

1486
01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 2>And I can't wait to find out what's going to

1487
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:24.000
<v Speaker 2>be back in there because I feel I feel like

1488
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:24.840
<v Speaker 2>we're going to see it again.

1489
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:29.920
<v Speaker 1>It would be really interesting if you figure out a

1490
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:34.199
<v Speaker 1>way to do kind of how Scott Carpenter was doing,

1491
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:38.319
<v Speaker 1>how he had the camera on his back as he's

1492
01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:40.600
<v Speaker 1>walking through the area and he was getting a lot

1493
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:45.439
<v Speaker 1>of interesting things. I know Harley Owens does this too,

1494
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's eastern Tennessee, but I'm sure it would the

1495
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:52.279
<v Speaker 1>same thing would work in Florida and you would might

1496
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:55.479
<v Speaker 1>even get some tree peakers or who knows what'll show up.

1497
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, I actually have I have quite a few.

1498
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start sharing them and you'll see them pop

1499
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:03.640
<v Speaker 2>up because I'm gonna start putting all my content out

1500
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:05.960
<v Speaker 2>there again for my channel so it can be seen.

1501
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of blurry pictures and they're exactly

1502
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:13.000
<v Speaker 2>from doing that. But what I was doing was I

1503
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 2>would be walking, and the more I would walk around,

1504
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I would I would I started hearing things behind me,

1505
01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:22.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I realized that every time I picked

1506
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:26.119
<v Speaker 2>my phone up and was recorded, they would start falling

1507
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:31.319
<v Speaker 2>behind me. Crunch, crunch, crunch. I'd hear little things. So

1508
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:34.079
<v Speaker 2>I realized that they don't know what this thing is

1509
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:36.840
<v Speaker 2>in my hand, but it distracts me. So that's when

1510
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:38.560
<v Speaker 2>they would be moving. So what I started doing was,

1511
01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:41.960
<v Speaker 2>instead of filming forward, I was filming behind me. So

1512
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I was holding my phone, but I was filming behind

1513
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:47.680
<v Speaker 2>me and I could actually see as I'm walking. And

1514
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I started the same thing. I started getting things and

1515
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I'd go back. And what I don't understand is how

1516
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:54.880
<v Speaker 2>can you not see something and then go back and

1517
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.119
<v Speaker 2>look at your video and see it later, which is

1518
01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.279
<v Speaker 2>mind boggling to me. How can just not be there

1519
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:00.600
<v Speaker 2>and then see on a video.

1520
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:05.079
<v Speaker 1>It'll also be amazing as you start to put up,

1521
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, footage you've taken on your YouTube channel and

1522
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the cool thing about that is, you know, you just

1523
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:13.960
<v Speaker 1>throw stuff up and people will start to you know,

1524
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it happens in mind too, where they're like, oh, did

1525
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:19.479
<v Speaker 1>you notice the thing in the background at like thirty

1526
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.199
<v Speaker 1>minutes in, and like, oh, what are you talking about?

1527
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:23.239
<v Speaker 1>You check it out and like yes, the same thing

1528
01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:27.319
<v Speaker 1>that happens is to Scott Carpenter's channels, Like you get

1529
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.600
<v Speaker 1>thousands of eyes on it and people start to notice things.

1530
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:35.279
<v Speaker 1>It's very cool your crowdsource the investigation of the footage.

1531
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Mike, it has been just a fantastic

1532
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:42.920
<v Speaker 1>conversation with you, and thank you so much for sharing

1533
01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:47.319
<v Speaker 1>what you have experienced over the years, your growth in

1534
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the way that you are now an investigator. It is

1535
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a fascinating story.

1536
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.439
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it, man, thank you a lot. You know,

1537
01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:59.560
<v Speaker 2>it's awesome. It's been a cool ride. And getting to

1538
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:01.399
<v Speaker 2>do with my family it just makes that much more,

1539
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:05.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, and Mid Florida like we've become an amazing group,

1540
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, and we're that way because of our different

1541
01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>angle and we have kids, we take kids out, and

1542
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:12.239
<v Speaker 2>we have women. You got one guy, a couple of

1543
01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:14.920
<v Speaker 2>guys and mostly women and we we you know, we

1544
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.199
<v Speaker 2>take groups of people out and take I've taken groups

1545
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:20.880
<v Speaker 2>of forty people into the middle of the Everglades by

1546
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:23.560
<v Speaker 2>my you know, forty people leading the way into the

1547
01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:26.920
<v Speaker 2>middle of the Everglades. And we take kids camping, We do

1548
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:28.920
<v Speaker 2>all we do stuff that not many people do, and

1549
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't pay for it. We just pay for what

1550
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.239
<v Speaker 2>it costs to be at the spot, you know, and

1551
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:36.119
<v Speaker 2>we have a blast. Usually me and Christina take our kids.

1552
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:38.199
<v Speaker 2>We go our way with the kids in the group,

1553
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.119
<v Speaker 2>and Marie takes the other group and she does her

1554
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.359
<v Speaker 2>thing with the adults and we kind of split them

1555
01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and we have a blast, like we have an absolute

1556
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:47.119
<v Speaker 2>blast doing it. And it's you know, it's given us

1557
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:51.039
<v Speaker 2>and we're finding legit evidence while spending time with our

1558
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:53.479
<v Speaker 2>families and getting other people involved. That's what's awesome.

1559
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Which is such a cool combination. And I know, I

1560
01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:00.439
<v Speaker 1>wish there was I wish there was more. I think

1561
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it's great that you guys are doing that and hopefully

1562
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that catches on, especially with the Legend Seekers uh series

1563
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>that that is going to be coming out. But would

1564
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you mind if you'd be able to take a few

1565
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:15.600
<v Speaker 1>minutes how people can you know, keep up to date

1566
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:19.359
<v Speaker 1>with what you guys are doing through your organization down

1567
01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:23.479
<v Speaker 1>there in Florida and maybe uh, you know, uh contact

1568
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you if if they would like and things like that.

1569
01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, my personal information is on my Facebook page,

1570
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and my Facebook page is turned into my Squatch page.

1571
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:39.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a squatch an FL and it's under Mike Aguilar,

1572
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's I just haven't listened to squatch on FL.

1573
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.479
<v Speaker 2>And all my contact information is on there, my email,

1574
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:51.119
<v Speaker 2>my phone numbers even on there Mid Florida. We have

1575
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:53.159
<v Speaker 2>all different kind of ways to find that. To contact

1576
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.960
<v Speaker 2>us me or Marie, you know Marie Dumont or that's

1577
01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.119
<v Speaker 2>really the two. You would contact me or her. We

1578
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>have Mid Florida website, mid Florida Facebook page, Messenger, any

1579
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:08.399
<v Speaker 2>way you want to find it. I have a YouTube

1580
01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.239
<v Speaker 2>channel now that i've been I'm actively trying to grow,

1581
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:16.439
<v Speaker 2>and that's the same thing squatching FL and that's the

1582
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:17.800
<v Speaker 2>best way to get in touch with us. And we're

1583
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:21.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna putting a lot of stuff out I mean we

1584
01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:25.600
<v Speaker 2>work hard, We work real hard. I think personally maybe

1585
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:28.800
<v Speaker 2>we put more legit stuff out there than just about

1586
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.079
<v Speaker 2>any group or any people do. I mean we because

1587
01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:34.199
<v Speaker 2>we we're out a lot and we find a lot,

1588
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:37.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, and to find a lot, you got to

1589
01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:39.520
<v Speaker 2>be out a lot. And that's what we're doing. And

1590
01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>it's awesome, and you know, we love it. It's become

1591
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:47.920
<v Speaker 2>it has become our. If I'm not with Marie and

1592
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>the group she's with, she's with with Bob or somebody

1593
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:52.880
<v Speaker 2>else and they're doing something over here in a different

1594
01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:56.479
<v Speaker 2>area in Florida, me and Christina are with over here Ruby,

1595
01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>she's over here in her place. We may not all

1596
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:02.079
<v Speaker 2>be together, but we're all out almost every weekend somewhere,

1597
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:06.279
<v Speaker 2>which is incredible. Yeah, right now, right right now. I

1598
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:09.399
<v Speaker 2>live fifteen minutes away, so it's easy for me to

1599
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.159
<v Speaker 2>go in almost daily sometimes and just go in for

1600
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:15.520
<v Speaker 2>an hour, two hours, walk around, check out things. That's

1601
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>what I've been doing. That's why I've been finding so much.

1602
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Mike, is such a cool story. We

1603
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:25.119
<v Speaker 1>will definitely be keeping up to date with what you

1604
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>guys are getting into next and following along with the

1605
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>channel and the organization down there. But thank you so

1606
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>much for taking some time out of your night and

1607
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:38.239
<v Speaker 1>coming on the show today. I really do appreciate it.

1608
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, if you ever want to have another

1609
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.600
<v Speaker 2>conversation later check out with us. Maybe I could have

1610
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:46.159
<v Speaker 2>my son come on. You'll get a kick out of

1611
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:48.840
<v Speaker 2>having him. You would have a blast having him talk

1612
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:51.239
<v Speaker 2>to him. He's awesome. He's not your average little eleven

1613
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>year old. He's awesome.

1614
01:24:52.279 --> 01:24:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, that sounds that sounds great. Thank you so much, Mike. Yes, sir,

1615
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1616
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

1617
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>would love to get out in those woods and experience

1618
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:15.399
<v Speaker 1>it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1619
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1620
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1621
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1622
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

1623
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1624
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:40.039
<v Speaker 1>probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1625
01:25:40.119 --> 01:25:46.319
<v Speaker 1>heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1626
01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:48.439
<v Speaker 1>you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

1627
01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:51.279
<v Speaker 1>more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1628
01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:56.479
<v Speaker 1>check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1629
01:25:56.560 --> 01:26:01.439
<v Speaker 1>documentary series searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year, you can

1630
01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>not only go to the festival, but you can also

1631
01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:12.199
<v Speaker 1>sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

1632
01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots

1633
01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

1634
01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

1635
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1636
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1637
01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:34.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1638
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:39.319
<v Speaker 1>To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1639
01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

1640
01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

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01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:50.479
<v Speaker 1>day pass for the price of a.

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<v Speaker 2>One day pass.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys can you can get a little help

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<v Speaker 1>with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to

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<v Speaker 1>see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>so many people last year and the year before. It

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<v Speaker 1>is an incredible time. You're not going to want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss it, and I'll see you there before we wrap

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01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 1>this episode, I want to say something directly to a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

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<v Speaker 1>any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

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01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>no one can explain, or if you're a National park

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01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

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01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

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01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

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01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:50.079
<v Speaker 1>federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

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01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

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01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

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01:27:57.239 --> 01:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the lock

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01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

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01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:08.039
<v Speaker 1>government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

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<v Speaker 1>told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

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01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

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01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

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01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

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01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:27.039
<v Speaker 1>that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

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01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

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01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:54.039
<v Speaker 1>We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger,

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01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>in stranger than we think, and that the truth is

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01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel

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<v Speaker 1>next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters,

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01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:27.239
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<v Speaker 1>or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting, please

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01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from you, so email me at

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01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check out our

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<v Speaker 1>membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot

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<v Speaker 1>early in ad free and members only episodes every week. Also,

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01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a place to connect with other people that are

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01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>into the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks

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01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>again for following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time,

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01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

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01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>asking what else might be out there? And see you

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods.