Speaker 1: Weird things happened, Weird, weird, Weird.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Bledso said, So, guys, we have a fabulous
Speaker 2: repeat guest. You guys surely must remember Jordan Crowder. He's
Speaker 2: been like one of the first guests we ever had
Speaker 2: on our show many many moons ago, and I'm very
Speaker 2: pleased to have him back on Bledso said so now
Speaker 2: that he has a fantastic podcast that we can talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about. So, before we go into our
Speaker 2: conversation today with Jordan, my friend and we go way
Speaker 2: way back and he's an og in this space, I
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Speaker 2: gonna hover on this stuff super long, I want to
Speaker 2: before we take off, Jordan, give you an opportunity upfront
Speaker 2: so that you can also plug your stuff and then
Speaker 2: we're off to the races.
Speaker 3: Sounds good. Oh that was your whole plug?
Speaker 2: That was it? Yeah. I usually go longer, but I
Speaker 2: don't want to waste time with you being here with me.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, brother. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be
Speaker 3: back man. Yea, I was on it seems like a
Speaker 3: million years ago, and to watch you go from there
Speaker 3: to like where you're at now is awesome. So I'm
Speaker 3: so excited to be back on.
Speaker 2: Likewise, I'm seeing you on the same journey. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, you were a big inspiration for me. So
Speaker 3: you know, being on your show is awesome and watching
Speaker 3: it take off and all this success you had was
Speaker 3: so cool to watch from my point of view and
Speaker 3: my perspective and to see you having fun with it,
Speaker 3: and that was a big part of it because so
Speaker 3: many people get it's a lot of work. I mean,
Speaker 3: me having a podcast now, I can attest to how
Speaker 3: much work it is. It's an insane amount of work.
Speaker 3: It looks easy on the outside, but it ain't. But
Speaker 3: you have so much fun with yours and that's really inspiring.
Speaker 3: So you were a big inspiration for me, and I
Speaker 3: created a Conscious Observers podcast just about four months ago
Speaker 3: and it's been a lot of fun so far.
Speaker 2: And you're having a meteoric rise.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I was very impressed by your Spotify wrapped and you
Speaker 2: just had explosive growth, which doesn't surprise me because you're
Speaker 2: one of those people where when you lock in on something,
Speaker 2: you go all the way and you just sprint. And
Speaker 2: it's just really cool to see, like how you're growing.
Speaker 2: I know that there was many times years ago that
Speaker 2: we were having conversations about like you doing a podcast,
Speaker 2: so it's cool to see it finally materialize. So just
Speaker 2: please remind the viewer, you know, the show is Conscious Observers,
Speaker 2: but in what places can they find you? Like social media, website,
Speaker 2: all that stuff so they know where to go after this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you. My website is digi Jordan
Speaker 3: dot com, so just di I g I Jordan dot
Speaker 3: com and that's find links to all my stuff I'm on,
Speaker 3: you know, all the major things, you know, X and
Speaker 3: Instagram and YouTube, and the Conscious Observers podcast is on Spotify,
Speaker 3: Apple and YouTube and anyone anywhere else that you watch podcast,
Speaker 3: I do the video podcast. So it's it's growing really
Speaker 3: fast on Spotify because Spotify is really pushing video podcast
Speaker 3: and that's been a great network to be on. But
Speaker 3: it's also doing really good on on Apple and and
Speaker 3: my YouTube channel is brand new, pretty new, just a
Speaker 3: few months old, but it's it's doing really good now too,
Speaker 3: so everything is is kind of clicking all of a sudden. So,
Speaker 3: but the Spotify thing was crazy, it really, I mean,
Speaker 3: the numbers on there were Nutso they reached out to
Speaker 3: me and told me that they they put me on
Speaker 3: their editorial top pick list. So basically the humans at Spotify,
Speaker 3: not just the algorithm. The humans were like, chose my
Speaker 3: show to purposely pump it and get in front of
Speaker 3: more people. And then when they told me that, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the numbers just went through the roof.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of cool to know that there's actually
Speaker 3: humans out there at these companies that are paying it.
Speaker 3: It's not just algorithms. I thought that was neat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just matrix machines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool man.
Speaker 2: That's it's like a meteoric rise and you deserve it.
Speaker 2: And I have to say, I really enjoy following you
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Sometimes it just shocks me how hilarious your
Speaker 2: takes are.
Speaker 3: You know, Twitter is a little too easy because it's
Speaker 3: it's like it's like, Okay, I have a thought and boom,
Speaker 3: I can share it with the world. And that's probably
Speaker 3: extremely dangerous and not a good thing for humans to
Speaker 3: have that ability. But it's also kind of fun too,
Speaker 3: So you know, I really just I lean into it,
Speaker 3: you know. I don't think about things too much. I
Speaker 3: don't sit they're in going back and forth. Should I
Speaker 3: say this? What if people take it wrong?
Speaker 2: Da?
Speaker 3: Da da? I just I just shoot, man, And it's
Speaker 3: it's a fun platform. I'm glad that Elon has it
Speaker 3: and allows us to still just be humans and just
Speaker 3: say what we're thinking in real time. Not everything has
Speaker 3: to be polished and rehearsed and scripted. Sometimes you just
Speaker 3: have a thought and you can shoot it to the world,
Speaker 3: and and I'm having fun doing that. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: I say a lot of outlandish crap, and you know,
Speaker 3: I'm in no way verifying everything and saying everything that
Speaker 3: comes out of my mouth is true or accurate. These
Speaker 3: are just thoughts. But it's cool.
Speaker 2: That's that's the beauty of free will.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You don't have to like feel this pressure to verify
Speaker 2: everything you say. Sometimes it's just shoot your opinion and
Speaker 2: that's that's all there is to it, you know, Like
Speaker 2: you don't have to prove your opinions. You know, I
Speaker 2: would love to sort of walk through where we left off.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean on the show that you did
Speaker 2: with me a few years ago, but I mean where
Speaker 2: we've been in person the last few times. So we
Speaker 2: were at the Monroe Institute together last year. If you
Speaker 2: want to talk about any of that and not necessarily
Speaker 2: about the week, but we I mean you can. But
Speaker 2: what I'm more interested in is like how your life
Speaker 2: has changed following that. And then a year later we
Speaker 2: were together again in person at the Side Games. So
Speaker 2: I would be remiss if we didn't hit some of
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean that week at Monroe was I mean,
Speaker 3: that was one of the coolest weeks ever. You know,
Speaker 3: it just it really was just an awesome week, and
Speaker 3: it really helped to have such cool people there, you know,
Speaker 3: so being able to hang with with you and you know,
Speaker 3: Chris Ramsey and Marco and just all the amazing you
Speaker 3: know Hannah and you know Sean and just the list
Speaker 3: goes on and on. I mean, it was it was
Speaker 3: such an amazing week. I mean, just going there is amazing,
Speaker 3: and to see you doing all the follow up stuff
Speaker 3: you're doing with them and really becoming just like an
Speaker 3: integral part of the Monroe suit and such a big
Speaker 3: part of their team. Is so cool to watch. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that week was amazing and it definitely changed my life.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but when I got home,
Speaker 3: there was like a like a hangover effect kind of
Speaker 3: a it was like waking up from a week long
Speaker 3: dream and just sort of being like I was very
Speaker 3: foggy and I was very much like it took a
Speaker 3: while to readjust to like normal life being a human
Speaker 3: because you're like, you're in this like you're in this
Speaker 3: dream for a week, you know, and this basically a
Speaker 3: theta brainwave state for six consecutive days, and you don't
Speaker 3: really know what's real and what's not. Get to this
Speaker 3: kind of point where you lose touch of what's you know, reality,
Speaker 3: and it's a very odd place to be. It's amazing,
Speaker 3: but yeah, there is an integration period afterwards.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of tears for me. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of when I got home, it was a lot
Speaker 2: of feeling like I'm never going to experience that again,
Speaker 2: and of course that's not true, but I know what
Speaker 2: you mean. It was it was very hard to come
Speaker 2: home and Readjust did you get the sense that when
Speaker 2: you went there you for the first time in your life,
Speaker 2: were around people that were like you.
Speaker 3: I mean, you definitely connect on a way different level
Speaker 3: with humans. I mean you're not connecting on this superficial, hey,
Speaker 3: how's it going, how's the family kind of a level
Speaker 3: like you do in the real world. I mean, you're
Speaker 3: connecting at this like this soul level, like a consciousness state.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's so different. You start to forget
Speaker 3: about the real world. Like I wasn't checking my phone
Speaker 3: for like news updates. I wasn't like you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: of course I was talking to my family, you know,
Speaker 3: my family, but like even that, it kind of after
Speaker 3: a while, it sort of gets like you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: yeah I have a house, Oh yeah, I have a job.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. You have to remind yourself that there's this
Speaker 3: real world out there that exists, and it's strange and yeah,
Speaker 3: you connect with the people there at this this level
Speaker 3: that's really hard to comprehend. So that's really neat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm really curious how your life changed after that.
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly a lot has unfolded for you. You know,
Speaker 2: you got your show, You've put it out there. It's
Speaker 2: doing it big time. And you're getting this this amazing
Speaker 2: rise and very fast success. But on the inside, you know,
Speaker 2: like what was the biggest changes that you noticed coming
Speaker 2: home from that?
Speaker 3: You know, I left there with a sense of purpose,
Speaker 3: you know, like like I left there sort of like
Speaker 3: so I had a near death experience like six years
Speaker 3: ago now five and a half years ago that really
Speaker 3: gave me like a purpose that set me down this path, right,
Speaker 3: and it just it's sort of you know, I was
Speaker 3: all of the place, and all of a sudden, it
Speaker 3: just said, hey, go this way. So I was going
Speaker 3: in a certain direction, but I didn't know where I
Speaker 3: was going or why or anything like that. And when
Speaker 3: I left Monroe, I had this this all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I had that much more clear purpose, like Okay, I
Speaker 3: have work to do. And I almost got this like urgency,
Speaker 3: the sense of urgency of like, you know, I have
Speaker 3: work to do. This is like a serious job, and
Speaker 3: I got to do it. I got to do it quick,
Speaker 3: and I got to do I have to take it seriously,
Speaker 3: like this isn't just all fun and games anymore. And
Speaker 3: I didn't really have that urgency before before I just
Speaker 3: kind of was like, oh, this is exciting you know,
Speaker 3: I'm digging into reality, I'm digging into consciousness. I'm digging
Speaker 3: into all these different topics. And I was having fun
Speaker 3: doing it. But I didn't really have a sense of
Speaker 3: urgency until I went to the Monroe stuoit and I
Speaker 3: connected with my higher self there in a way that
Speaker 3: I had never done and didn't think was even possible.
Speaker 3: And I got very clear messages from several different of
Speaker 3: our experiences that basically told me, yeah, there is a
Speaker 3: sense of urgency, and yes, you do have a mission
Speaker 3: to do. So those those are some of the most
Speaker 3: profound insights I had. And I left there with this like, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's get to work kind of a feeling.
Speaker 2: So what is that mission if you don't mind talking
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: Well, in my when I when I met my higher self,
Speaker 3: which was an incredible experience, and I was able to
Speaker 3: ask any questions, and I had some questions prepared and
Speaker 3: I asked my questions and my higher and I did
Speaker 3: a whole video on this because my higher self kind
Speaker 3: of snapped at me. It kind of not not in
Speaker 3: a mean way, but in a frustrated way. It was
Speaker 3: telling me that I was thinking too small, I was
Speaker 3: taking baby steps that we didn't have enough time that
Speaker 3: I had to think bigger and all these things. I
Speaker 3: was asking it should I do this or should I
Speaker 3: do this? It was basically saying, do all of the
Speaker 3: things and more like just get to work. Quit asking,
Speaker 3: you know, quit delaying, Like you even asked me should
Speaker 3: I do this? Or this is a delay? That was
Speaker 3: that was me, you know, oh, basically like having this
Speaker 3: scarcity mindset of oh, I can only choose one of
Speaker 3: these things, and it was basically saying, do both and
Speaker 3: do ten times more than that and get to work.
Speaker 3: And it was a kick in the butt. It was
Speaker 3: like a drill sergeant type of a meeting and didn't
Speaker 3: really expect that, but it was super cool, and the
Speaker 3: more I processed it, it felt so it was like
Speaker 3: it was the message that I needed to hear at
Speaker 3: the right time. It wasn't what I wanted to hear,
Speaker 3: it was what I needed to hear. And I think
Speaker 3: that's what my higher self the purpose it was serving.
Speaker 3: So when I came back, I really dove into you know,
Speaker 3: Earth changes, all of the things having to do with
Speaker 3: consciousness shifting, like the evolution of consciousness in the I
Speaker 3: dove into so many works that I'd already read in
Speaker 3: the past, and I read them with a different eye
Speaker 3: and came away with a totally different point of view.
Speaker 3: And I reread all Robert Monroe's works, and I went
Speaker 3: into a lot of things. Edgar Casey went into a
Speaker 3: lot of prophecies that I never really had explored before,
Speaker 3: really cared about the Hopey prophecy. Edgar Casey's prophecy went
Speaker 3: into a bunch of remote viewing work, even like SRI
Speaker 3: stuff that they did with the Sphinx with Stephan Schwartz
Speaker 3: and his predictions, and a bunch of stuff having to
Speaker 3: do with upcoming potential like cyclical cataclysm type stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: And that was not really an area I was interested
Speaker 3: at all in before.
Speaker 2: So what what have you found? And plot and spoiler
Speaker 2: I was gonna say plot to us, but spoiler, I
Speaker 2: know some of what you found because I when I
Speaker 2: pop on Maybe it's because I engage with your content,
Speaker 2: but I feel like every time I turn on Twitter,
Speaker 2: I'm like exposed to your your tweets, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of like following along and I've seen your
Speaker 2: video where you talk about this stuff. But I really
Speaker 2: liked a lot of your takes, So I wanted to
Speaker 2: go in on some of that here. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to ask, like, I don't know, pretend I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so what did you find?
Speaker 3: You know? It was interesting. I found a lot of
Speaker 3: things and a lot of things that overlapped. And I
Speaker 3: thought that was the most interesting is that there's so
Speaker 3: many things that are that are completely separate stories, completely
Speaker 3: separate research, completely separate prophecies or experiences that overlap and
Speaker 3: are painting a picture. And so I started following these
Speaker 3: threads from one topic to the next, not on purpose,
Speaker 3: not trying to verify or reinforce my mindset, but just
Speaker 3: completely independent, just like an intuitive investigator, following this thread.
Speaker 3: And they kept like overlapping and one would leave to
Speaker 3: the next, and I was like, well, this is really interesting.
Speaker 3: So a big thing that I found is that it's
Speaker 3: funny that we're talking today because just today Mark Certo,
Speaker 3: who is one of the original sound engineers at the
Speaker 3: Monrones two, actually created a lot of the sound for
Speaker 3: Gateway and did a lot of stuff there in the
Speaker 3: early days with Robert Monroe. He commented on one of
Speaker 3: my tweets today and it was a tweet from a
Speaker 3: few weeks ago, and my tweet was about how or
Speaker 3: whatever you call it on x now I still call
Speaker 3: it tweets, but my tweet was about how humans are
Speaker 3: about to undergo this rapid sort of this rapid evolution,
Speaker 3: and it's because we have these different convergent singularities coming
Speaker 3: and we're at the nexus of all of them. And
Speaker 3: when this happens, it's going to take us in one
Speaker 3: of two directions. It's like Robert Monroe talks about the
Speaker 3: Asian symbol for crisis is half opportunity and half danger.
Speaker 3: So we can either go the opportunity route, when we
Speaker 3: can level up and ascend up and you know, kind
Speaker 3: of turn into this more activated human with a more unified,
Speaker 3: you know, collective consciousness, or we can retreat from being
Speaker 3: the dominant consciousness on Earth. And I had this tweet
Speaker 3: about that, and Mark Certo commented on it today and
Speaker 3: he knows some things, and he said, I know exactly
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. I've been talking about this for decades.
Speaker 3: Tell me how you can help us to get humanity
Speaker 3: to that level because I feel like we're behind schedule.
Speaker 3: That's what he said. And I was like, oof, if
Speaker 3: he's saying we're behind schedule. That's not good. But he
Speaker 3: also verified what I was saying, which was really awesome. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I did a video on the coming up
Speaker 3: you know what your dad talked about with the lady
Speaker 3: and you know, the different celestial events and the new
Speaker 3: knowledge bestowed upon humanity, and I dove into thank you.
Speaker 3: I dove into that from a different mindset, different point
Speaker 3: of view, because you know, I don't know, I think
Speaker 3: that your dad's amazing and a story is amazing and
Speaker 3: there's obviously truth there, and I was like, Okay, how
Speaker 3: can we like parse this out and make some sense
Speaker 3: of it? And you know, because it's a little like
Speaker 3: the message he got from the lady was even though
Speaker 3: it was specific, it was also vague, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And that's how a lot of these messages
Speaker 3: are there. They're specific and vague at the same time
Speaker 3: because they're mysterious and you're like, no, just tell me,
Speaker 3: tell me more info. But I understand why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh, it's possibility. Yeah, you're right, it's somewhat vague
Speaker 2: to a point. So that we don't get too locked in,
Speaker 2: I think, so that we don't get too locked in
Speaker 2: on any specific outcomes, but that many things can occur.
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, yeah anyway, sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's almost like they don't want if
Speaker 3: they tell us specifics, we might do rash things that
Speaker 3: would change the timeline and unexpected ways. But they're also
Speaker 3: given us warnings. You know, these are obvious warnings. So
Speaker 3: you know, when I dove into that and I was,
Speaker 3: I was, you know, kind of reviewing what he said
Speaker 3: about the you know, the regular star and the gaze
Speaker 3: of the Sphinx and all that, and I was, I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, this is really interesting, and talked about
Speaker 3: near Easter and the spring. The vernal equinox is March twentieth,
Speaker 3: so just two weeks before Easter. And the Sphinx has
Speaker 3: a lot to do with equinox because there's only two
Speaker 3: days out of the entire year where the sun sets
Speaker 3: or rises directly in the gaze of the Sphinx. I mean,
Speaker 3: the sphinx is created in this way. It's just amazing
Speaker 3: that on the spring equinox, it the gaze of the sphinx,
Speaker 3: like if you put a laser beam on the top
Speaker 3: of the sphinx, it would hit the sun as it
Speaker 3: comes over the horizon, and it's just incredible that it's
Speaker 3: made for that. So it's obviously designed for that date.
Speaker 3: And then on that date. A lot of people don't
Speaker 3: realize this when you look down from the sky to
Speaker 3: the pyramid. The pyramids not four sided. It's actually eight sided,
Speaker 3: and in the exact middle of each of the four sides,
Speaker 3: in the very center, it bows out one degree and
Speaker 3: it creates this eight sided pyramid, which is amazing, and
Speaker 3: you can only see it from above looking down, which
Speaker 3: how did they do this? And it only you can
Speaker 3: only see it on each of the equinoxes. That's it.
Speaker 3: So there's some purpose to that. Everything there on the
Speaker 3: Giza plateau was created for the spring equinox. And I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, well that's very similar, because if I
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what the
Speaker 3: lady said to your dad was that it was around Easter,
Speaker 3: not like.
Speaker 2: She actually didn't give a time at all. That was
Speaker 2: given asa Ah, well, my dad said, I have come
Speaker 2: to believe some time around Easter, but we don't know
Speaker 2: what the actual data is. She just gave the actual
Speaker 2: alignment and said, you know, the star regulars the lines
Speaker 2: of the cage Sphinx just for Dawn and the constellation Leo.
Speaker 2: A new knowledge will will you know? There were so
Speaker 2: then people have asked put that in their programs and
Speaker 2: they said, oh, it's either if. Actually, first they said
Speaker 2: it was the fault equinox and then they said the
Speaker 2: spring equinox. They gave us two different times, so we're.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I didn't even know that they had pinpoint
Speaker 3: of that date. So then when I was looking into
Speaker 3: you know, the most profound statement that she said was
Speaker 3: a new knowledge would be bestowed upon humanity. And it
Speaker 3: makes you think, Okay, what is this new knowledge? Like
Speaker 3: what is this game changing knowledge? And then it obviously
Speaker 3: has to do with the Sphinx. So then I started
Speaker 3: digging around, Okay, what knowledge? Because we know what's inside
Speaker 3: the pyramid. We've gone through everything. I know, there's still
Speaker 3: some areas unexplored, but it seems to be obviously it's
Speaker 3: built for a purpose, but it seems to be largely empty.
Speaker 3: So what's this new knowledge? Is the lady just going
Speaker 3: to come down and give some sort of a you know,
Speaker 3: a heavenly ted talk and bestow this knowledge upon us,
Speaker 3: or do we sort of discover this this knowledge, and
Speaker 3: then I found Edgar Casey's information, and Edgar Casey believes
Speaker 3: that he is the reincarnated of Raw who was he
Speaker 3: thinks the architect of the Atlantean Archive, which is underneath
Speaker 3: the Sphinx. And that's why Casey was so passionate about
Speaker 3: the Atlanteans and what's actually underneath the Sphinx. But when
Speaker 3: you look at his teachings or his prophecies, it's not
Speaker 3: underneath the paw, just the entrances underneath the paw. He
Speaker 3: says that there's an archive that's actually halfway between the
Speaker 3: Paw and the Nile, and that's where the Atlantean Archive is.
Speaker 3: And inside this archive is the record of the Alantean civilization,
Speaker 3: the genesis of humans, and actually our first transmigration of
Speaker 3: soul when we first began consciously incarnating into human avatars,
Speaker 3: which would be like the genesis of the actual human
Speaker 3: being on Earth. And then also how the cataclysm happened
Speaker 3: and how they actually survived it, or potentially the few
Speaker 3: that did survive, which seemed to have gone on and
Speaker 3: created like the mystery schools that have been trying to
Speaker 3: keep this knowledge alive, but that the actual vault or
Speaker 3: the actual library, the Atlantan library under the Sphinx has
Speaker 3: these tablets according to Casey, with the information on there,
Speaker 3: but also this firestone, some sort of super powerful crystal.
Speaker 3: That is a big reason why this is all kept
Speaker 3: timelocked from us, because it's this consciousness equilibrium that we're
Speaker 3: trying to achieve. The information can be given to us
Speaker 3: until we are emotionally and consciously mature enough to handle
Speaker 3: this information without destroying ourselves, because evidently this information is
Speaker 3: what actually led to the downfall and the destruction of Atlantis.
Speaker 3: So that's why it's kept away from us until the
Speaker 3: time is right. So anyways, I was looking at all that,
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I wonder if this is the
Speaker 3: new knowledge that's bestowed upon humanity. I have no way
Speaker 3: of knowing. It's just I thought it was an interesting
Speaker 3: you know, where's this knowledge coming from? Well, just happens
Speaker 3: to be according to Casey, there's this library underneath the
Speaker 3: Sphinx full of this knowledge that potentially could save us
Speaker 3: from the next if these cataclysms are cyclical, it has
Speaker 3: the information and possibly the technology with this firestone crystal
Speaker 3: to save us from the next cataclysm. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but that's where my sort of research was taking me
Speaker 3: down that route.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I love Edgar Casey, I'm a big edguar Cacy fan,
Speaker 2: but I will say I think it is kind of
Speaker 2: hard to find like a core synthesis of his teachings
Speaker 2: or his channelings or whatever. And they have the Aar
Speaker 2: Institute in Virginia and then there's like a thousand books
Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong. Is there like some
Speaker 2: concise text that kind of strings together all of his
Speaker 2: readings or is this sort of like you just have
Speaker 2: to kind of dig in a million places, because that's
Speaker 2: been my experience.
Speaker 3: You do and you're one hundred percent right. So this
Speaker 3: is where the plot thick and even more for me.
Speaker 3: So as I was researching all this I've had I
Speaker 3: had found Stephan Schwartz a long time ago, and he
Speaker 3: was doing this twenty fifty prediction. He had this team
Speaker 3: of thousands of remote viewers and they predicted twenty fifty.
Speaker 3: He uses this mobiust mobius method to verify the remote
Speaker 3: viewing data, and he's one of the most credible remote
Speaker 3: viewers in history, and his information is just rock solid,
Speaker 3: even though he is a very politically biased person and
Speaker 3: some of his opinions I don't resonate with. His data
Speaker 3: is as good as it gets. And he has this
Speaker 3: twenty fifty prediction. I did a whole video on that,
Speaker 3: and it's it's wild. And he's predicted many, many things,
Speaker 3: and he's found shipwrecks and he's found tombs, and he's
Speaker 3: found all sorts of things using this remo viewing. Okay,
Speaker 3: where really the plot really thickens is that at an
Speaker 3: early age he had this very mysterious encounter with this
Speaker 3: couple who he still even when he talks about it,
Speaker 3: you can tell it gives him goosebumps and kind of
Speaker 3: freaks him out because it was very paranormal and it
Speaker 3: led him to AR and he became the top Edgar
Speaker 3: Casey archivist at AAR decades ago, and he spent years
Speaker 3: going through all of Edgar Casey stuff and he is
Speaker 3: convinced Stephan Schwartz that he is a reincarnated, not necessarily
Speaker 3: version of Edger Casey, but part of his team that's
Speaker 3: supposed to be bringing this knowledge to the surface. So
Speaker 3: Stephan Schwartz was actually a part of a remote viewing
Speaker 3: team with AR that remote viewed under the sphinx, and
Speaker 3: they did it completely blind. The people remote viewing had
Speaker 3: no idea what their remote viewing, but Stephan Shortz did
Speaker 3: and when they matched up all of the information from
Speaker 3: the remote viewers, it perfectly matched what Stephan was sort
Speaker 3: of expecting or or possibly expecting to find if the
Speaker 3: Edgar Casey stuff was correct. Then on top of that,
Speaker 3: SRI sent a team over there to use like sonar
Speaker 3: and stuff and look underneath the sphinx. So it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 3: why are all these people so interested with us underneath
Speaker 3: the sphinx when we're told there's nothing under the sphinx?
Speaker 3: Why are all these people so interested with Atlantis when
Speaker 3: we're told Atlantis didn't exist? And it just seems like
Speaker 3: the smartest people at the top of the food chain
Speaker 3: know something we don't know and are looking for something
Speaker 3: that we're told doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: What's the dude's name that is like the Minister of
Speaker 2: Egyptian Antiquities and he was on Joe Rogan's show and
Speaker 2: it was a disaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah do you know his name? His name? But yeah,
Speaker 3: he is a disaster.
Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me get that. I don't
Speaker 2: want to get this wrong. Someone somewhere. Yeah, if I
Speaker 2: did that, but I've got to find that out real
Speaker 2: quick because he just recently announced. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you saw this Egyptian Antiquities minister something with a Z bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very distinctive name. I just can't remember.
Speaker 2: Zahias. He's the Minister of Antiquities and Tourism. A few
Speaker 2: weeks ago he made an announcement and he said that
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, there's going to be a grand
Speaker 2: reveal some new discovery that they found at the Pyramids.
Speaker 2: Did you hear about that?
Speaker 3: I did not.
Speaker 2: What did I say his name was? I'm bad with
Speaker 2: names in the short term, Zochon.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very obvious that they know so much
Speaker 3: more than they're telling the public, and it's because they're
Speaker 3: trying to protect their Egyptian history. But even when you
Speaker 3: look into Egyptian history, I mean the history that the
Speaker 3: Egyptians believe about their history, there's no way is the
Speaker 3: actual history. It goes so much further, and there's so
Speaker 3: much more to it, and for whatever reason, they're hiding stuff,
Speaker 3: and it seems they're hiding it to preserve their history.
Speaker 2: Loss. Yeah, announced that in twenty twenty six, there will
Speaker 2: be a reveal of a huge discovery that they found
Speaker 2: in the Great Pyramid of Cufu, which I guess is
Speaker 2: the main pyramid on the Giza Plateau. I'm so illiterate
Speaker 2: with Egyptian archaeological stuff. And apparently there's like a secret
Speaker 2: corridor that they found in there using advanced scanning technology,
Speaker 2: three D mapping, robotic tools. So there's going to be
Speaker 2: this major grand reveal thing in twenty twenty six. Interesting time.
Speaker 3: It's totally I mean, there's so much happening now with
Speaker 3: what they're finding underneath the pyramid, with these these these
Speaker 3: columns that supposedly go down you know, like many many
Speaker 3: miles and and all this kind of stuff. And it's
Speaker 3: so I got some information from somebody I don't want
Speaker 3: to say their names, they didn't give me permission to,
Speaker 3: but that that there's how do I say this sounding crazy?
Speaker 3: So multiple different things that I've been researching had led
Speaker 3: me to believe that in the center of the earth
Speaker 3: is a crystal, Okay, a crystal of mostly iron other things.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. Man, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, there's obviously magma kind of like how
Speaker 3: in the human body there's like blood running through our veins,
Speaker 3: there's like channels of magma running through the Earth.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm just agreeing with you that the mainstream,
Speaker 2: if there's some main stream version of something, it's probably
Speaker 2: never right. But anyway, so there's a crystal in the
Speaker 2: center of the Earth.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So when you get to so at the Gathering
Speaker 3: chapter in Robert Monroe's book and Far Journeys, when he
Speaker 3: goes into the Gathering, and the Gathering is this part
Speaker 3: where he goes to this layer outside of Earth where
Speaker 3: it is a basically a gathering of a bunch of
Speaker 3: different extraterrestrial interdimensional ships and crafts and beings and intelligences,
Speaker 3: some of which are future human that are here to
Speaker 3: witness what they call the Big Event, some sort of thing,
Speaker 3: some event, some some thing that's about to happen on
Speaker 3: Earth that's going to change everything. And it doesn't just
Speaker 3: change it for us, is it for us and all
Speaker 3: the surrounding you know, star systems and everything or a
Speaker 3: whole cosmic neighborhood. And what he talks about is that
Speaker 3: there is this this convergence of energies and that Earth
Speaker 3: is like a bull's eye and there's all these energies coming,
Speaker 3: and this circles back around to the pyramid scape and
Speaker 3: that Earth is the spoles eye in the middle, and
Speaker 3: there's all these He paints a picture like they're like
Speaker 3: these laser beams, these energy fields that are converging on Earth,
Speaker 3: and it allows the human collective to rapidly ascend and
Speaker 3: unite into a super collective consciousness and turn into essentially
Speaker 3: a cosmic archetype like a god. And for lack of
Speaker 3: better words, and if this doesn't happen, if we go
Speaker 3: the opposite direction, then we retreat as the dominant consciousness
Speaker 3: on Earth. So that's what he was told at the gathering,
Speaker 3: and the picture he painted was that there's these these
Speaker 3: laser beams coming into Earth from somewhere else. Okay, So
Speaker 3: I started researching what all this could be and then
Speaker 3: I get this, this person come out of the blue,
Speaker 3: and there's someone I know from my past and I
Speaker 3: totally respect, and they say that they were told in
Speaker 3: one of their channelings. And I know this is all
Speaker 3: that part's antidotal, but that our pyramids on Earth are
Speaker 3: one half of a two part system that at a
Speaker 3: certain point when our magnetic field weakens enough and when
Speaker 3: we go through this cosmic sheet that sort of that
Speaker 3: wave that we're about to go through that people think
Speaker 3: around twenty forty six is going to lead to this
Speaker 3: pole flip thing that when all that happens and our
Speaker 3: magnetic field is weaker, that it allows our pyramids on Earth,
Speaker 3: which are strategically placed on this one you know, essentially
Speaker 3: lay line that goes all around the Earth. It's crazy
Speaker 3: when you see how many things are placed on this
Speaker 3: one line that they basically create this laser. You know
Speaker 3: that our pyramids are one half of a two part system,
Speaker 3: the other part being on a different planet. That's why
Speaker 3: all the pyramids are aimed specifically at planets, and when
Speaker 3: that happens, it creates this this energy field on Earth
Speaker 3: that allows for this rapid you know, evolution and intensification
Speaker 3: of everything around. That's why there's all this interest from
Speaker 3: all these different beings and intelligences here. But this all
Speaker 3: has to do with the fact that inside of our
Speaker 3: Earth is a crystal and that these pyramids are tapped
Speaker 3: into that. That's why underneath the pyramid they're finding these
Speaker 3: these channels, these these basically huge rods with these these
Speaker 3: you know, coils around them that go miles and miles
Speaker 3: and miles down. Well there's a good chance of those
Speaker 3: go all the way down to the crystal core of
Speaker 3: the Earth, and that the pyramid and everything attached to
Speaker 3: it creates this sort of like blaser beam that will
Speaker 3: be activated at some point and you know whatever. So anyways,
Speaker 3: all that I thought was really crazy. But when you
Speaker 3: look at the the the the Gathering chapter in Robert
Speaker 3: Monroe's book for Our Journeys, and he goes into detail
Speaker 3: about this event and what it's going to do afterwards
Speaker 3: and why all the beings are here. And then you
Speaker 3: listen to Mark Certo say the same thing. You listen
Speaker 3: to Tom Campbell, he called it the Big Show. He
Speaker 3: had an Explorer series tape where he went to the
Speaker 3: gathering and he saw the same thing. He talked to Thor,
Speaker 3: his astral guide, and he talked to you know, he
Speaker 3: saw the different ships and everything there. He's verified this,
Speaker 3: So that's happening, and you think, Okay, what is this
Speaker 3: big show? What's happening? And now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: all eyeballs are on Egypt, on Giza, on the pyramids.
Speaker 3: They're now doing all this advance like sonar, digital three
Speaker 3: D stuff, finding all these things underneath. It's really and
Speaker 3: then at the same time, you know, you said Egypt
Speaker 3: is going to have this big reveal. You know, the
Speaker 3: lady is talking about the Sphinx, and a lot of
Speaker 3: this seems to have to do with the Pyramids. But
Speaker 3: it's not just Earth Base because okay, we have all
Speaker 3: these aliens, all these extraterrestrials, interdimensionals, time traveling humans, they're
Speaker 3: all around Earth, encompassing here watching They're not really messing
Speaker 3: with stuff too much. They're watching, waiting for the big show.
Speaker 3: And it's like it gets you is the impression that
Speaker 3: whatever's going to happen here doesn't just affect us, it
Speaker 3: affects everything around us. That this is a bit a
Speaker 3: big deal, you know. And I think it has to
Speaker 3: do with these pyramids and the core of the Earth.
Speaker 3: So that's my next little rabbit hole and going down.
Speaker 2: I love that. It's like, I guess I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: things in terms of you know, parent and child lately,
Speaker 2: because I have a son coming to the world funnily
Speaker 2: enough the week before yeah, potentially Easter, And I guess
Speaker 2: it's like when you watch your child walk for the
Speaker 2: first time. That does something for you, even though that's
Speaker 2: a skill you've mastered decades before. But then you watch
Speaker 2: your child walk and it just kind of does something
Speaker 2: to you, you know what I mean, Like, Oh my God,
Speaker 2: we're we're growing, We're look at him go and the
Speaker 2: happiness that you feel. I could imagine it's like that
Speaker 2: same kind of notion with these higher beings, like monitoring
Speaker 2: us so closely and seeing how or just riffing on
Speaker 2: like the findings that you're discovering, and then seeing us
Speaker 2: go through the big show or the big event or
Speaker 2: whatever what I like to call the Great Awakening, this
Speaker 2: event where we all just have this critical mass evolution
Speaker 2: of consciousness. And I believe very similar to what you've said.
Speaker 2: I think we believe pretty much the same thing, but
Speaker 2: we're here like different terminology and different flavor. Like I
Speaker 2: think that there is a singularity of consciousness approaching. And
Speaker 2: the thing that I keep hearing from the whispers of
Speaker 2: my mind is like that the Atlantean Way is going
Speaker 2: to return to Earth. And in the Bible you have
Speaker 2: you know, there's going to be a new Jerusalem, or
Speaker 2: in Hinduism you have the Kaliyuga ends in some traditions,
Speaker 2: it actually ends in twenty twenty five, believe it or not.
Speaker 2: And then after the Kaliyuga, it starts over and I
Speaker 2: think it's like the sot Yuga or something like that,
Speaker 2: and it goes back to the age of Light and
Speaker 2: it's like boom where this advanced civilization. There's all these
Speaker 2: different myths. The Dogon tribe. They talk about the crossing
Speaker 2: of the two worlds, the material world and the spiritual world,
Speaker 2: that there's like this convergence where the spiritual beings are
Speaker 2: able to cross into our world. And you saw this
Speaker 2: Aura the Avatar the Last Airbender show. You've seen that
Speaker 2: and Aura, there's this event that happens every ten thousand years,
Speaker 2: which that it's a cartoon, so they could throw out
Speaker 2: their own number. It could have been thirty million, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's the point that every ten thousand years
Speaker 2: there's this event called a harmonic convergence where the material
Speaker 2: world and the spiritual world crossover and spiritual beings come
Speaker 2: into the earth plane. So I think this idea that
Speaker 2: the Monrositute people are confirming and the big event, right,
Speaker 2: and Tom Campbell's talking about the Big show, and you've
Speaker 2: got all these channel materials and all this fiction. Something's happening, dude,
Speaker 2: the Dogon tribe five thousand years ago. The Templar Knights
Speaker 2: talk about this. I've become friends with some Templar Knights
Speaker 2: lately and we talk a lot, and they have very
Speaker 2: interesting things to say about this.
Speaker 3: The Hope the Hopee people's prophecy is very well documented
Speaker 3: because they're all still alive, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's an awesome ancient thing. And they talk about this
Speaker 3: time period right now being the age of purification with
Speaker 3: the you know, the red and blue starcachina and the
Speaker 3: Age of Purification. They even have the prophecy of the
Speaker 3: Man in the Red hat and all that stuff, and
Speaker 3: they talk about it being now like that. They're very
Speaker 3: clear that we have already passed like seven of the
Speaker 3: nine markers and that this is happening right now. This
Speaker 3: is not some far off in the future thing.
Speaker 2: I totally agree. So what does hope myths say? Like,
Speaker 2: are not myth? But you know what I mean, prophecy,
Speaker 2: where are we headed? Right? Is it like a new world?
Speaker 3: So it's the age of purification and so there is
Speaker 3: I mean so much of this straddles the line between
Speaker 3: doom and gloom and awakening. Like it very much is
Speaker 3: a and that's why we'll talk about it later, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: But like my new project I'm working on is all
Speaker 3: about establishing individual free will because we're going to have
Speaker 3: to have agency to be able to navigate this thing.
Speaker 3: Because everything that's coming up against us is a fork
Speaker 3: in the road, it's a tipping point, and we have
Speaker 3: to personally at an individual level and collectively because obviously
Speaker 3: the collective is just made up of individuals. We have
Speaker 3: to be able to make the right decision. This is
Speaker 3: all a free will challenge, you know. I call this
Speaker 3: whole world that we're in the simulator. It's a simulator
Speaker 3: for consciousness development. We come here to make free will
Speaker 3: decisions and to navigate obstacles in adversity. But we have
Speaker 3: to use free will. We have to have agency. We
Speaker 3: can't just be in this default mode of subconscious programming
Speaker 3: and just go with the flow. People have to stand up,
Speaker 3: wake up and make decisions. And you can only do
Speaker 3: that if you're exercising your free will in your agency.
Speaker 3: That's my new object of working on, called the law
Speaker 3: probability we'll circle background to that. But what the Hope
Speaker 3: you talk about is that there's this So their story
Speaker 3: is amazing. I never knew like a deep dove on it.
Speaker 3: And they think that they came or they don't think.
Speaker 3: This is what they say. This has been passed down,
Speaker 3: you know, from generation generation. They're all still they're still alive.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can go and talk to Hope the
Speaker 3: elders today. They actually went to the UN and did
Speaker 3: a whole presentation on this. They where they explained where
Speaker 3: they came from is what we would call Lumeria. It
Speaker 3: was this great land out in the Pacific Ocean that
Speaker 3: at the last cataclysm, at the Great Deluge, the flood
Speaker 3: that everyone talks about, that when that went under and
Speaker 3: it seems that Hawaii is the very tip top of
Speaker 3: that civilization, like because Hawaii is just the top of
Speaker 3: a volcano, but the rest of the civilization's underwater. That
Speaker 3: when that happened, the people came to America. And when
Speaker 3: they came to America, they came with the help of
Speaker 3: what they call the ant people, which bear us striking
Speaker 3: resemblance to the gray Aliens and the Kachinas, the star
Speaker 3: people which bear us striking resemblance to what we'd call
Speaker 3: the Nordics, and that with the help of those beings
Speaker 3: they came to America. They were given this knowledge and
Speaker 3: their prophecy is passed down directly from the Star people,
Speaker 3: the Kachinas, and they're told very specifically. And this is
Speaker 3: crazy because you know, they went to the UN back
Speaker 3: in the eighties and a presentation on this. There are
Speaker 3: several different Hope Elders that have done videos over the
Speaker 3: decades and going back, you know, to like the forties
Speaker 3: and fifties and sixties talking about the man in the
Speaker 3: red hat and the prophecy of the man in the
Speaker 3: red hat, and it can be described as a hat
Speaker 3: or a cloak or a scarf, but they're very specific
Speaker 3: that the leader of this part of the world because
Speaker 3: they're based in America, the four Corners of America, and
Speaker 3: they talk about America being the battleground, the spiritual battleground
Speaker 3: for what's about to happen, and that essentially when Lumeria
Speaker 3: they don't call it Lumeria, but they talked about how
Speaker 3: they were part of Loomeria what we had called Ameria.
Speaker 3: And then on the other side was Atlantans, Atlantis and
Speaker 3: that during the flood. What happened is they the Hopie
Speaker 3: came to America. The Atlanteans went to Europe. Right, everyone
Speaker 3: had to shift because the earth shifted, the pole shifted.
Speaker 3: So you know, Lameria where the Hope you were from,
Speaker 3: that went underwater. America came out of the water. They
Speaker 3: came to America, the Atlantan Lanteans, Atlantis went underwater. They
Speaker 3: went to Europe. They created him which turned into Egypt
Speaker 3: and all that. That's why the Atlanteans went through Egypt,
Speaker 3: and you know, I ran a Persian empire that part
Speaker 3: of the world, right, and you know, eventually through Greece
Speaker 3: and Pythagoras, the Mystery schools and all that stuff. It's
Speaker 3: all this like this, this trail, and that they went
Speaker 3: more towards development of technology and military and finance and
Speaker 3: economies and governance and that kind of stuff. And that
Speaker 3: the Hope were told to do the opposite. They're the
Speaker 3: stewards of the earth. They were told to take care
Speaker 3: of the earth, take care of this, you know, the
Speaker 3: spirit and Gaya and the divine feminine, and that at
Speaker 3: a certain point in the future both of those sides
Speaker 3: would converge back and they would converge in America, and
Speaker 3: that America is like the spiritual battleground where the Atlanteans
Speaker 3: essentially and what these would be called like the Lamerians
Speaker 3: you know, to us. But the hope are supposed to
Speaker 3: represent that side of the coin, that polarity of being
Speaker 3: grounded to earth and spirituality and you know, consciousness, and
Speaker 3: that the Alanteans are going to come back with their
Speaker 3: technology and their military force, and that what's supposed to happen.
Speaker 3: The hope is that when it all converges in America,
Speaker 3: we are able to harmonize those two sides and find
Speaker 3: this this way to live in balance between those two
Speaker 3: polarities and do something the Atlanteans weren't able to do.
Speaker 3: And when we harmonize that, then that will essentially be
Speaker 3: like our ticket to like cross this threshold, this tipping point.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that we're supposed to shun materialism or
Speaker 3: technology or any of that. We're supposed to live in
Speaker 3: harmony with it. We're not supposed letting get out of control.
Speaker 3: So the hope you are here to guide us through
Speaker 3: this this you know, this minefield we're coming up to.
Speaker 3: But they talk about the age of purification, the man
Speaker 3: with the red hat being the leader, and how things
Speaker 3: get really really dark and really ominous right before, because
Speaker 3: that's when we all have to make our decisions, our conscious,
Speaker 3: free will decisions, what cibe we're going to go and
Speaker 3: how we're going to navigate this, and if we navigate
Speaker 3: it properly, then it allows us to like safe passage through.
Speaker 3: If we don't, we go the way of the Atlanteans,
Speaker 3: and that whole battle between not good and evil, but
Speaker 3: definitely negative positive, you know, materialist and spirituality seems to
Speaker 3: be happening in America as we speak, and that this
Speaker 3: is the new battleground.
Speaker 2: I feel like America is the the what's the word,
Speaker 2: like the breeding grounds of psychological warfare on the masses.
Speaker 2: And it's actually, you know what's funny. You were the
Speaker 2: first person to ever tell me about this. So every
Speaker 2: time I hear this word or think it, well, I
Speaker 2: don't hear it. I'm the one saying it at parties
Speaker 2: or whatever. No one's just no one's like us, Jordan,
Speaker 2: everywhere we go and just talks about this stuff. We're
Speaker 2: always the weird guy, right. But when I think about
Speaker 2: this term or when I say this term, I always
Speaker 2: think of you, and I'm grateful that I learned about
Speaker 2: this from you. But it's the Way Tko, and this
Speaker 2: is such a fascinating subject, and I recently just did
Speaker 2: an episode on it. I believe it comes out actually
Speaker 2: today is what the eighth This episode we're doing now
Speaker 2: will come out in a while, but as of the
Speaker 2: time of recording this, next week's episode will be about
Speaker 2: the Way Tko. So it's a very gripping topic. And
Speaker 2: I think that it's so true that there is like
Speaker 2: a psychic parasite that's been infecting the minds of humanity.
Speaker 2: And I believe a part of this convergence or the singularity,
Speaker 2: or this awakening event that we're on the cusp of,
Speaker 2: I think a part of that is defeating this parasite,
Speaker 2: or at least learning how to you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: learning to have the tools to consciously reject this materialistic
Speaker 2: thing that's you know, gnawing at our consciousness.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, the Watiko is like it's like
Speaker 3: a mind virus, and you know, when you when you
Speaker 3: get into some of the like you know, like Skinwalker
Speaker 3: and what's happening there with these these hitchhiker effects and
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff, and you see that there is
Speaker 3: this almost contagious like element to the phenomenon, to the
Speaker 3: to the darker side of it that can be passed
Speaker 3: from a person to a person. And we're seeing that
Speaker 3: now like that book was it called Hitchhikers of the
Speaker 3: Pentagon or Skinwalkers of the Pentagon. Yeah, that goes into this,
Speaker 3: and that's basically like this watiko in modern day, and
Speaker 3: there is this parasitic mind virus that we do have
Speaker 3: to navigate and to overcome. For sure, it's a part
Speaker 3: of everything. I mean, when I hit my rock bottom
Speaker 3: and I had mine near death and all that, I
Speaker 3: felt like I was, for lack of better words, hijacked
Speaker 3: at times by something that wasn't me and that definitely
Speaker 3: wasn't looking out for my best interest. You know. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, I had sanitized my own consciousness out of
Speaker 3: my vehicle, and it's like leaving your keys in your
Speaker 3: car with the car running on the side of the
Speaker 3: road in a bad neighborhood. You know, you just you
Speaker 3: never know what's going to hop and enjoy ride it.
Speaker 3: And so there are these opportunistic sort of viruses out
Speaker 3: there that seem to be spiritual in nature that you
Speaker 3: definitely have to be aware of.
Speaker 2: It's true for the light too, that it's as you say,
Speaker 2: like contagious or infectious, and that doesn't mean in a
Speaker 2: bad connotation. And I think that like the spiritual forces,
Speaker 2: for better or for worse, they want to be spread.
Speaker 2: And that's why we're reaching this critical mass right now.
Speaker 2: I know for a fact these beings, the light beings
Speaker 2: that we they want nothing more than to be spread.
Speaker 2: But they refect, they respect our free will. So it's
Speaker 2: that's this whole game. This is how we educate people
Speaker 2: like you have to you know, open your heart to
Speaker 2: them and make that connection to them or whatever. But
Speaker 2: back to what you were saying, so you said that.
Speaker 2: The reason I brought up the way Tkos because you
Speaker 2: mentioned there's this this point where we have to make
Speaker 2: a choice between you know, the forces of light and dark.
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring this to your attention. So Sammy Higar,
Speaker 2: the singer of Van Halen, has become very good friends
Speaker 2: with my father, and dad recently went out to his
Speaker 2: place in La and they did a SkyWatch together and
Speaker 2: they hung out. Kesha was there, some other people were there.
Speaker 2: I saw that, Yeah, very fruitful night they saw Orbs.
Speaker 2: It was a fantastic get together. But so Sammy, Sammy
Speaker 2: is a really cool guy, and he was very touched
Speaker 2: when my dad told him that when the lady came,
Speaker 2: she gave him five songs. Are you familiar with this? No,
Speaker 2: So the lady gave my dad five songs. She thought
Speaker 2: like telepathically transmitted. It was Battle for Evermore from led Zeppelin.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was six, but it was Battle for Evermore
Speaker 2: Kashmir from led Zeppelin. Love walks In by Van Halen.
Speaker 2: Nothing else matters Metallica after the gold Rush, which is
Speaker 2: Neil Young and then another one. I don't know if
Speaker 2: she gave this to him or if he just kind
Speaker 2: of like started getting the pattern here and read the lyrics.
Speaker 2: But Stairway to Heaven, all of these, all of these
Speaker 2: songs and some capacity have some like deep spiritual meaning
Speaker 2: that the lady implied to my dad, like, for example,
Speaker 2: nothing else matters for him, Nothing matters other than this
Speaker 2: mission and getting the orb things out. You know, just
Speaker 2: keep your eye on the prize, move forward, Battle for Evermore,
Speaker 2: Stairway to Heaven, Love walks In all about a shining,
Speaker 2: powerful lady Kashmir about these elder races that come down
Speaker 2: and they give us this knowledge and then the earth
Speaker 2: is burned by the sun and it's just scorture earth
Speaker 2: and there's like this new Earth that forms and then
Speaker 2: what am I missing? Was that all? Anyway? So my
Speaker 2: dad told this to Sammy, this concept, and then he
Speaker 2: said love walks in and Sammy had these chills and
Speaker 2: he was like, oh my God. So he kind of
Speaker 2: explained that like making that music was like magic, that
Speaker 2: there's this sort of channeling effect, it's like automatic writing.
Speaker 2: He was just he was just like going and not
Speaker 2: not you know, thinking about it. And Eddie was on
Speaker 2: the keyboard, he was playing piano, and Sammy was just
Speaker 2: like singing the lyrics and it came together like total magic.
Speaker 2: But I'm setting the stage here because there are other
Speaker 2: instances in which this has happened with our friend Sammy.
Speaker 2: Are you aware of the song? I think it's called
Speaker 2: the Crack in the World. It's kind of going around
Speaker 2: circles right now being talked about. No, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pull this up and I want to read these lyrics
Speaker 2: to you really quick, and I think this will be
Speaker 2: quite revealing. This was written in nineteen seventy seven. I
Speaker 2: believe listen to these lyrics. This is Sammy Hagar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I found out what it is that's been driving me mad.
Speaker 2: There's no room to breathe between the good and the bad,
Speaker 2: a crush in between. There's a thin, thin line, but
Speaker 2: just around the corner there's a change in design. I
Speaker 2: wish I could walk away and dig what the preachers say,
Speaker 2: but those words don't satisfy me no more. There's a crack.
Speaker 2: There's a crack in the world that repeats two more times,
Speaker 2: just fifty more years. We're all gonna know why, when, where, how,
Speaker 2: and who gets to go. So let's all have a
Speaker 2: good time before the great divide, because things will start
Speaker 2: separating come twenty twenty five. Jeers, So look for the
Speaker 2: subtle cues. It won't make the front page news. That
Speaker 2: depends on which side you choose. There's a crack, crack
Speaker 2: in the world, crack crack in the world, and then
Speaker 2: it's over. Dude.
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, right, that's wild. Yeah, Holy cow.
Speaker 2: Something's happening, yeah something.
Speaker 3: They definitely put this stuff into our collective psyche through
Speaker 3: things like film and music and and things like that.
Speaker 2: For sure, yeah, now Sammy, Sammy is writing this music.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm now more. I used to be of the
Speaker 2: opinion a long time ago. I think there's levels to this.
Speaker 2: When you start to open your eyes to what's out
Speaker 2: there and the esoteric and all that, you're like, it's demonic,
Speaker 2: they're all demonic horses, blah blah, blahlah blah. I don't
Speaker 2: think that way anymore. I think it's more complex. And
Speaker 2: you and I both know from our Monrostitute studies and
Speaker 2: doing these you know, expanded states of meditation, that the
Speaker 2: right brain is where the magic happens. And we know
Speaker 2: that these artists and these musicians, they're in their right brain.
Speaker 2: And I think I think the spirit world speaks through
Speaker 2: these artists as they're performing. It's like they're channeling through them.
Speaker 2: Sammy has probably no clue in nineteen seventy seven, the
Speaker 2: State of the World in twenty twenty five, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But yeah, now they're definitely tapping into something else, you know,
Speaker 3: and they're subconsciously doing it, unknowingly doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're being delivered these these most is either it's
Speaker 3: them from a future state delivering it to past state
Speaker 3: or it's just something completely outside of them. It's almost
Speaker 3: like you have this s thought bubble and different. This
Speaker 3: is how is tak Bentov describes how our thoughts work.
Speaker 3: Is that you have this essentially the stop bubble, this
Speaker 3: field of information, and it's generally your information, your thoughts,
Speaker 3: your things, but you know, other people, beings, whatever can
Speaker 3: put information, like little packets of data in there, and
Speaker 3: then what your brain does is that basically just downloads
Speaker 3: them and then amplifies it into a thought. You know,
Speaker 3: it brings that information downs like this is a thought.
Speaker 3: So you know, say you're writing a song and you're
Speaker 3: going into like this kind of meditative type of state,
Speaker 3: which a lot of these guys do to try to
Speaker 3: give this inspiration. You know, you don't really know, Okay, Oh,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden something hits me inspiration. Oh that's great.
Speaker 3: Did that thought come from you or did it come
Speaker 3: from somewhere else, Did it come from a future you,
Speaker 3: from a higher you, or did it come from outside
Speaker 3: of you? And they just place that information in your
Speaker 3: little thought bubble and you bring it down into your reality.
Speaker 3: That's how like there's been people around the world that
Speaker 3: have invented the exact same invention simultaneously and they had
Speaker 3: no like knowledge of the other person. There's been people
Speaker 3: that have like written books that have the exact same
Speaker 3: names of characters, same events, same everything, published at the
Speaker 3: same time, and they had no interaction with each other.
Speaker 3: It's like this information is dropped. It's like a it's
Speaker 3: like a gardener just sprinkling seeds into the soil, you know,
Speaker 3: just hoping that one of them sprouts, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's unreal. And I think that, like, that's just
Speaker 2: one of many little things, Like you independent have noticed
Speaker 2: all of these things converging to indicate that there's some
Speaker 2: sort of future world just around the corner. I think
Speaker 2: that it's like, I don't know, maybe the return of
Speaker 2: Atlantian civilization, or it's or you know, I keep thinking
Speaker 2: about it humorously, like the Jetsons. We're going to be
Speaker 2: the Jetsons. I don't know what your thoughts are on this,
Speaker 2: but I find it a little suspicious that next year
Speaker 2: there's like three different humanoid robotic models going to market
Speaker 2: with AI consciousness. In twenty twenty six, we're going to
Speaker 2: be able to have robots to do our laundry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so is it the terminator takeover. I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2: I think it's more like we're hitting the singularity where
Speaker 2: our technology is exploding, our understanding of consciousness is exploding.
Speaker 2: We're going to be able to have more spiritual faculties
Speaker 2: like esp telepathy, pre cognitive thought, you know, seeing without eyes.
Speaker 2: You and I both witnessed that firsthand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, all of those very real.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you and I have been right there at the
Speaker 2: cusp of this at these events, you know, going to Monroe,
Speaker 2: seeing dall you do what she did at the side games.
Speaker 2: I'm recording with her tomorrow. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you know that's that's exciting but awesome. I don't know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think, well, I see like the robot thing, because you know,
Speaker 3: I've thought about this a lot, because you know when
Speaker 3: you when you research like Steiner and Ariman and you
Speaker 3: look at like, okay, could this be sort of like
Speaker 3: a digital Antichrist kind of a thing. Well, I mean
Speaker 3: a lot of it is. Just it's like child development,
Speaker 3: Like you can raise your child to be a monster,
Speaker 3: or you can raise them right and and there'll be
Speaker 3: a you know, a productive member of society. So it's
Speaker 3: kind of up to us what direction this goes. But
Speaker 3: ultimately I believe that humans are here to do much
Speaker 3: bigger things than we're doing now. And if these robots
Speaker 3: can take over a lot of the menial tasks and
Speaker 3: allow humans to spend more time, like, let's put it
Speaker 3: this way. If we do have this convergence of factors
Speaker 3: coming and they're there's this tipping point, and there's this
Speaker 3: this I don't know, some sort of an event coming
Speaker 3: up that we have to survive that we have to
Speaker 3: navigate for the future of humanity and possibly human consciousness.
Speaker 3: That's a very big deal. Well, okay, we probably don't
Speaker 3: need to be spending our time doing this mundane crap
Speaker 3: all the time, like we need to we need to
Speaker 3: sort of allocate our resources in more productive ways. And
Speaker 3: I see these robots, you know, helping there, kind of
Speaker 3: like in the Jetsons, you know, like the robot in
Speaker 3: the Jetsones was doing all the stuff around the house
Speaker 3: so they didn't have to. And it's like, Okay, as
Speaker 3: long as we use them in a productive way to
Speaker 3: allow us to be more productive, then that's good. It's
Speaker 3: also going to throw us into a little bit of
Speaker 3: a flux because it's going to make people start questioning
Speaker 3: what their true purpose is and what being a human is.
Speaker 3: And you know, because right now, a lot of people
Speaker 3: align their identity with their job. And I don't think
Speaker 3: we're here just to work in Your identity should not
Speaker 3: have too much to do with your job. I mean partially,
Speaker 3: of course, but your identity is separate than your job.
Speaker 3: And I think that once these robots take over a
Speaker 3: lot of people's jobs, it's going to allow that person
Speaker 3: to start thinking, Okay, who am I, what is my purpose?
Speaker 3: What am I here to do?
Speaker 2: What do I want?
Speaker 3: And that could yeah, exactly, and that could have this
Speaker 3: cascading one hundredth monkey type effect where if everybody in
Speaker 3: the world, or a large percentage of the world, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden starts asking these deep, profound, existential questions.
Speaker 3: I mean, that could have a bit. I mean, we
Speaker 3: saw what happened over COVID when people were locked in
Speaker 3: their houses. People started thinking thinking because they weren't working.
Speaker 3: They weren't at school. You think that you think at school,
Speaker 3: You don't. You remember at school and you memorize and
Speaker 3: you do things like that. At school, you don't do
Speaker 3: a lot of profound thinking. But during COVID, people started
Speaker 3: thinking and they started waking up. And what happens when
Speaker 3: we do that, but not just for a few months
Speaker 3: during lockdown, but for a few years, because all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, maybe Musk deliver some sort of
Speaker 3: universal basic income through some sort of you know, crypto
Speaker 3: type thing, and all of a sudden, people, you know,
Speaker 3: you have robots doing most of our tasks, and you
Speaker 3: have people receiving income so they don't have to like
Speaker 3: go to the job they hate and this kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: and they're given time and freedom for one of the
Speaker 3: first times in their life to think and to be curious.
Speaker 3: And that could have this explosive effect on the collective
Speaker 3: consciousness as long as you know, we take care of
Speaker 3: mental health and we do this in a positive, constructive way,
Speaker 3: and you know, I just think that that it could
Speaker 3: be a very big deal. Now that's, of course the
Speaker 3: positive direction. You know, there's always a negative direction. But
Speaker 3: that's kind of how my optimistic mind sees this coming,
Speaker 3: you know, age of robots and AI same.
Speaker 2: I think we should look at these things with optimism
Speaker 2: and not be afraid of the future. It's like, how
Speaker 2: many times are you afraid to like, let's just say
Speaker 2: a high school kid. Oh, I have a crush on
Speaker 2: this girl, or I have a crush on this boy,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to take my shot. And then
Speaker 2: when you do, even if you get rejected, you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: that wasn't that bad. I was afraid for nothing. Now
Speaker 2: I have the closure to know she's not me or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. We're always afraid of a
Speaker 2: hypothetical outcome, and then when we exercise reality, even if
Speaker 2: it's negative, even if it's a rejection, even if it's XYZ, whatever,
Speaker 2: it's like, why was I afraid over nothing? And I
Speaker 2: think that that applies in the big scale to life
Speaker 2: and the future, and there it is insane. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: it is delusional and insane for people to sit around
Speaker 2: and be triggered and in fear over the progression and
Speaker 2: the development of AI and robotics based on what Terminator
Speaker 2: from the eighties, based on the theory that people will
Speaker 2: lose their jobs. Okay, maybe they will maybe, as you said,
Speaker 2: which I tend to agree, pretty soon, there will be
Speaker 2: a world in which we don't need jobs. That sounds
Speaker 2: fucking awesome. I don't know about you, but that sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: We don't need crafty jobs. There will always be opportunity
Speaker 3: for real work to do real human because there's always
Speaker 3: going to be things humans can do that nothing else
Speaker 3: can do. We have unique abilities and skill sets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're things that we want to do, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm looking at this from a perspective
Speaker 2: of optimism. I'm looking at this from the perspective of
Speaker 2: I know for a fact because shiny freaking beings came
Speaker 2: down from the sky and has told my family, Hey,
Speaker 2: there's going to be a better world around the corner.
Speaker 2: It's the Age of Aquarius. There's going to be a
Speaker 2: great awakening. There's going to be a new knowledge and
Speaker 2: a new way of living and thinking. So just go
Speaker 2: tell your story. Go nuts, We'll help you. So I
Speaker 2: have to believe that all these things that are happening
Speaker 2: in the world, well, if I logically think about it
Speaker 2: for two seconds, they're not going to pull the plug
Speaker 2: and AI is going to disappear. It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: It's progressing robotics, it's progressing all this stuff. So I'm
Speaker 2: just like, why would why should we sit around in
Speaker 2: fear of this stuff? Or we could have at least
Speaker 2: a little bit of hope, A little bit of hope
Speaker 2: that whatever is coming down the pipe there's something good
Speaker 2: in it. That's all I'm saying that that there has
Speaker 2: to be some good to this. It's not all bad.
Speaker 2: I've seen videos of people shaking and red in the
Speaker 2: face and triggered and screaming because students in class use
Speaker 2: AI to take notes, and it's like, bro, you're not, well,
Speaker 2: yeah you are not what people really really like are
Speaker 2: freaked out over developing technology, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, old fashioned thinking, that's how that's being
Speaker 2: applied to people my age even are like this over
Speaker 2: AI or robotics, and it's like, bro, it's not that deep,
Speaker 2: Like it's a new toy. Aw, it's a new piece
Speaker 2: of machinery that that does some technological thing. It's not
Speaker 2: that deep.
Speaker 3: That's funny. I mean, I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: fear it because they fear the potential of it becoming
Speaker 3: more powerful than humans. But when you're our line of
Speaker 3: work like me and you, we understand that there's things
Speaker 3: out there that are more powerful than humans. We understand
Speaker 3: the hierarchy, but most people don't. Most people believe we're
Speaker 3: the alpha, you know, biological beings on Earth, and we're
Speaker 3: the alpha spiritual beings in the non you know, physical plane,
Speaker 3: and you know, spend enough time in those planes and
Speaker 3: you'll realize, no, we're not. I mean, it's you know,
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean we're in significant. I think that we
Speaker 3: actually are very significant. But there are other things out
Speaker 3: there that are far older, more ancient, more advanced than we.
Speaker 3: So when I look at AI, I mean I instantly
Speaker 3: I don't fear that whole Oh no, what if it
Speaker 3: surpasses us an intelligence or capability as like, well, of
Speaker 3: course it's going to you know, I don't look at it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't look at it that way. Yeah, exactly, so
Speaker 3: we can utilize it. You know, when we started making
Speaker 3: machines and stuff, we wanted to make machines that were
Speaker 3: stronger than humans so they could lift things and move
Speaker 3: things and do things we couldn't physically, and they do
Speaker 3: and we use them and that's great, you know, So
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be in fear because we made something that's
Speaker 3: stronger than a human. Of course, that's how we build things,
Speaker 3: and that's how we have cranes and all these things.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but I mean I think some people just
Speaker 3: don't like change, but hey, we are in a place
Speaker 3: now where we are going to have exponential, rapid change
Speaker 3: unlike anyone. I mean, futurists now are going to be
Speaker 3: out of work because futurists can't even you know, accurately
Speaker 3: predict the future because things are changing so rapidly that
Speaker 3: it's breaking all models and it's breaking all logic. We're
Speaker 3: about to go into a really weird time period where
Speaker 3: things are going to move really fast, and you're just
Speaker 3: going to have to get used to change, you know,
Speaker 3: you just it's going things are going to change, and
Speaker 3: the key is going to be adaptability. How do you adapt?
Speaker 3: How do you how do you change as the world changes?
Speaker 3: You know, not change meaning like loose sense of who
Speaker 3: you are or your purpose, but like how do you adapt?
Speaker 3: How do you you know, make sure that as things change,
Speaker 3: you change with them so you don't get left behind.
Speaker 3: You can't be these people anymore. They're like, well, back
Speaker 3: in my day, we did things this way. It is
Speaker 3: I guess what. That day's over and things are going
Speaker 3: to start happening really really fast, moving forward, and it's good,
Speaker 3: but it's going to be scary for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be like this. I don't
Speaker 2: know how I feel about Dolores Cannon, and I'm not
Speaker 2: like a huge fan of her work as a whole,
Speaker 2: but I will say something of hers that I really
Speaker 2: enjoy and I think it makes sense, is the concept
Speaker 2: of the two earths, the new Earth, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And I think that this is true and
Speaker 2: that we are moving into a dimensional split. And I
Speaker 2: think a part of this new Earth includes our you know,
Speaker 2: our pineal glands, our cade putamens, our basal ganglia. They
Speaker 2: are strengthening and evolving at a rapid rate to where
Speaker 2: we are going to more readily be able to see
Speaker 2: and observe dimensional phenomenon with our eyes, so orbs light
Speaker 2: being all this shit I grew up with seeing that
Speaker 2: I've already seen regularly. I think in mass that's unfolding
Speaker 2: evolutionarily for humanity. And we are, like the Dogon said,
Speaker 2: like all these other traditions said, we're entering a world
Speaker 2: where part of that new knowledge is living with spiritual
Speaker 2: beings in our reality. And then I also think that
Speaker 2: includes some sort of physical technological component like the robotics.
Speaker 2: Pretty crazy that they're gonna hit market in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: I don't find that to be a coincidence. I find
Speaker 2: it to be pretty freaking loud sign and AI and
Speaker 2: it's gonna look like this. You are gonna either be
Speaker 2: in heaven or hell when this dimensional split is finalized.
Speaker 2: So like for me and you, it'll be like sick.
Speaker 2: My robot just folded my towels and I went outside
Speaker 2: at night and I saw the spectacular spiritual dimensional entity
Speaker 2: show and see orbs. Oh guess what this AI program
Speaker 2: just paid my taxes. Maybe I don't even have them.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm in heaven. But so and so,
Speaker 2: so it's gonna say, oh my god, it's AI, it's evil,
Speaker 2: Oh my god. The robots they're gonna take over, and
Speaker 2: they're gonna be living in hell because they're delusionally in
Speaker 2: fear over every little thing that's emerging in our world.
Speaker 2: And that's how I think it's gonna play out. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be those of us that are, oh man, this
Speaker 2: is an awesome world, all these advancements, this is so exciting,
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. And then those people are gonna
Speaker 2: be suffering because they can't break free from that. We
Speaker 2: tiko evil, psychic parasite that's whispering into ear. Be afraid,
Speaker 2: be afraid. Progress is evil. You don't want change, you
Speaker 2: don't want this. This is scary. Elon Musk says Ei
Speaker 2: good or Ai good, so Ai bad? So and so
Speaker 2: says robot good, so robot bad. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's just delusion. They're stuck in a delusion. They're
Speaker 2: stuck in hell in their mind. That's my belief.
Speaker 3: I mean. So Seneca, who's my favorite Stoke philosopher, he
Speaker 3: famously said, you know, we suffer more often in imagination
Speaker 3: than reality. And yeah, basically, you know, we we make
Speaker 3: things worse in our heads than they actual they are.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people do that, and
Speaker 3: it's normal. It's part of Actually, it's kind of a
Speaker 3: survival function. That's part of what keeps us safe, you know,
Speaker 3: being a little bit paranoid. But you have to keep
Speaker 3: it balanced. You have to you have to realize that,
Speaker 3: you know, okay, there might be a little bit of
Speaker 3: a fear here, but there's also opportunity and you have
Speaker 3: to give each of those equal amount of mental energy
Speaker 3: and focus. You know, you want to make sure that
Speaker 3: you know we're not recklessly going into this new frontier,
Speaker 3: and we're not recklessly Like my only concern with AI
Speaker 3: is not its ability, it's the people behind it. I mean,
Speaker 3: some of some of these people are questionable at best.
Speaker 3: And that's my only reservation. Is not the technology or
Speaker 3: the opportunity, it's the human aspect. The human beings that
Speaker 3: are creating the AI are what worry me more than
Speaker 3: the AI. You know, just like any tool or anything
Speaker 3: can be used for good or bad, but the thing itself,
Speaker 3: like a hammer, I can hurt you or build a
Speaker 3: house with a hammer, it doesn't make a hammer bad.
Speaker 3: So AI it's not inherently bad. AI is whatever we
Speaker 3: do with the AI robots aren't bad, or however we
Speaker 3: use the robots. So it's it all goes back to
Speaker 3: the human aspect, the human element. And but but yeah,
Speaker 3: generally speaking, I mean, you know, you have to, like
Speaker 3: bee aware of certain pitfalls and certain you know, negative outcomes,
Speaker 3: just so that we make sure we don't you know,
Speaker 3: go down those But you want to I just try
Speaker 3: to look at life this way. You want to have
Speaker 3: more optimism than paranoia, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: it's more than likely. Yeah, generally speaking, the good thing
Speaker 3: usually happens. I mean, that's just the way the world is. Obviously,
Speaker 3: bad things happen, but generally speaking, good things usually happen
Speaker 3: because most people are good people. Most people want good
Speaker 3: things to happen, and we do create largely our reality.
Speaker 3: And this all goes back to law of probability, is
Speaker 3: that you know, the most probable outcome is the one
Speaker 3: that's probably going to happen, and you know, the creator
Speaker 3: wants a positive outcome. You know, most people want a
Speaker 3: positive outcome, and that's why most of the time the
Speaker 3: positive outcome is what wins out. And you know, so
Speaker 3: just kind of have a little bit of faith in
Speaker 3: that that. You know, like you had Tom Campbell on
Speaker 3: not too long ago, and you know, he talks a
Speaker 3: lot about how the larger constant, the system wants to
Speaker 3: reduce entropy and wants to have a positive outcome, and
Speaker 3: you know, like there seems to be this unconditional love
Speaker 3: element to the universe, and there seems to be this
Speaker 3: this kind of growth and evolution and positive like trajectory
Speaker 3: of most of reality. So just have a little bit
Speaker 3: of faith that most arrows are pointing in the right direction.
Speaker 3: So just don't sit there and dwell on the few
Speaker 3: little outlier like possibilities that might put on the negative path.
Speaker 3: Of course, you can paint this picture of worst case scenario,
Speaker 3: and of course that is a possibility, but it's usually
Speaker 3: one of the lower probabilities.
Speaker 2: I love that. I completely agree, and the whole like
Speaker 2: wax on wax off to this, And my whole philosophy
Speaker 2: is like attracts. And that's something that my father always
Speaker 2: taught me, he said, son, I would have never survived
Speaker 2: any of this. I would have died a long time
Speaker 2: ago if I didn't always keep a positive mental outlook
Speaker 2: and always envision positive outcomes. So that's my whole thing.
Speaker 2: I could be very wrong. Terminator could rise up tomorrow
Speaker 2: and you know, to talk to me through my xbox
Speaker 2: or whatever. You know, all that stuff could be real.
Speaker 2: Don't think it's very likely. I think it's less likely.
Speaker 2: And my point is if that is so, then we'll
Speaker 2: deal with it when it gets here. But I have
Speaker 2: nothing to lose to envision a positive world, and I
Speaker 2: only have to gain. I smile a little more. I
Speaker 2: feel a little more hopeful of what's around the corner. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's not quite what I thought. But this isn't that bad.
Speaker 2: It could be worse, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: I think that we have nothing to gain from envisioning
Speaker 2: negative outcomes and negative future scenarios. And you know, it's
Speaker 2: like with this whole et disclosure UFO phenomenon. See the
Speaker 2: government gives it a bad rap. They're doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: They are putting a negative spin on the phenomenon into
Speaker 2: people's minds. And it's the same situation, Like, why would
Speaker 2: we sit around and think negatively about this when we
Speaker 2: have all these stories of the good. We have all
Speaker 2: these stories of people, including high level CIA intelligence officers
Speaker 2: going to the Bledze's house and seeing it for themselves
Speaker 2: and hearing meeting people who've been healed of cancers. Why
Speaker 2: are they only talking about this negative stuff? Well, duh,
Speaker 2: you know, because they hate you, but they want you
Speaker 2: in fear. The people at top want all of us
Speaker 2: down here, yeah, to live in hell. They want us
Speaker 2: to envision hell. They want us to be afraid to
Speaker 2: connect with the higher powers, be afraid of real, true progress,
Speaker 2: not spiritually evolved whatsoever. And I just think it's in
Speaker 2: our cards too. And that big show that you're talking
Speaker 2: about is happening, and it's like you said, we have
Speaker 2: to choose do we want to go forward or do
Speaker 2: we want to stay behind and be paranoid, delusional and fear.
Speaker 2: So I'm off my soapbox.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean, you're absolutely right. And I always
Speaker 3: I liken this too, like I call it consciousness CrossFit.
Speaker 3: That's what this world is. When you go to the gym,
Speaker 3: you put weights on the bar and you put yourself
Speaker 3: through hell. Why why do you make things hard? Why
Speaker 3: do you go to a gym and beat yourself up
Speaker 3: and purposely make things really, really really hard? Because that
Speaker 3: resistance is what grows. That resistance of what you know
Speaker 3: forces you to evolve and develop and to grow and
Speaker 3: get stronger. You have to have resistance. And I think
Speaker 3: a lot of our resistance in this world. What humans
Speaker 3: bring to this world is our ability to reason and
Speaker 3: to understand and to put purpose and meaning behind things.
Speaker 3: And that all comes from adversity, from challenge, from proving
Speaker 3: you know what you're made of and what you're capable of,
Speaker 3: and these kinds of things. Then you can only do
Speaker 3: that against adversity. You can only do that with a challenge.
Speaker 3: So if this was a utopia, we wouldn't learn shit.
Speaker 3: You have to have tough times, you have to have
Speaker 3: dark times, You have to have challenges to rise above
Speaker 3: them and to prove what you're made of to yourself.
Speaker 3: And I think that part of this is mental. A
Speaker 3: huge part of it is mental. That Okay, even the
Speaker 3: whole UFO disclosure thing, like just the idea that UFOs exists,
Speaker 3: the idea that alien life exists, is enough for most
Speaker 3: people's brains to either you know, grapple with this whole
Speaker 3: existential like concept that there's intelligent life out there and
Speaker 3: we're not alone, or this whole like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: what if they're going to invade us enslave us all
Speaker 3: and kill us all? Yaudiada, and that sort of mental gymnastics,
Speaker 3: that back and forth. That polarity there that's going on
Speaker 3: in everyone's heads is a diversity. It is a challenge.
Speaker 3: It's a mental you know, exercise that you have to
Speaker 3: go through. You have to do all the different scenarios
Speaker 3: and simulations in your head. What if this, what if this?
Speaker 3: You have to go through the dark eyed of the soul. Oh.
Speaker 3: Everything they taught me in church, everything they in school,
Speaker 3: everything my parents told me is wrong. You have to
Speaker 3: run through all those things to get to this this
Speaker 3: final you know, clarity, and and that is that is
Speaker 3: you know, adversity, challenge, effort, work. You know, it's scary,
Speaker 3: it's it's strange, it's it's perplexing, it's all the things.
Speaker 3: And that's why we're here. We're here to do all
Speaker 3: of those things because at a consciousness level, we're growing,
Speaker 3: we're evolving, we're learning, we're applying meaning and purpose, and
Speaker 3: we're we're working through problems and we're you know, growing
Speaker 3: our intellect and we're growing our quality of consciousness. We're
Speaker 3: doing all these things through all of these these weird
Speaker 3: situations that are kind of overlaid on our reality. And
Speaker 3: a lot of them are hypothetical, some of them are
Speaker 3: completely made up. Some of them are real, but they're exaggerated.
Speaker 3: Who knows, who cares. But it's all about how we navigate,
Speaker 3: how we how we handle ourselves through this this mindfield
Speaker 3: moving forward.
Speaker 2: I will say this is going to sound off the wall,
Speaker 2: but I'm dead serious. I think smoking DMT taught me
Speaker 2: a lot about life and if you have the heart
Speaker 2: for it and you're not prone to any sort of
Speaker 2: and I don't mean you, Jordan, I just mean generally
Speaker 2: to the audience or whoever. My philosophy that if you
Speaker 2: have the heart for it and the mind for it
Speaker 2: and you know that it's like a totally in your
Speaker 2: cards kind of thing. I don't mean everybody should do this,
Speaker 2: and it's not for everybody, but if you are able
Speaker 2: to do this and tolerate it, and you and you're like,
Speaker 2: I want to smoke DMT, but whatever, I recommend it.
Speaker 2: It taught me so much about life because I learned
Speaker 2: that when things get hard, when things get scary, when
Speaker 2: things are frightening or whatever, and they're out of your control,
Speaker 2: you just let go and you surrender and you understand
Speaker 2: and you know and you believe that everything's going to
Speaker 2: be fine. And it's like the DMT trip is life itself.
Speaker 2: It's they're like they're parallels that when you're in DMT
Speaker 2: is designed to bring your ego and it's scary and
Speaker 2: you see these big faces of these entities and these
Speaker 2: cosmic forms and all this, and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're freaking out and you just have to like you
Speaker 2: just like let go and you understand that you're not
Speaker 2: in control and I have found over the last few
Speaker 2: years that daily life is like that. When I get
Speaker 2: extremely stressed about things, situations, I'm feeling negative, I'm feeling depressed,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling anxious. I learned to just surrender, give my
Speaker 2: faith to God or however you believe it. If you
Speaker 2: believe it's Krishna, I don't give a shit. It's you know,
Speaker 2: it's real that God is up there, that there's something
Speaker 2: up there, larger consciousness system, whatever, angels, beings, guides, I
Speaker 2: don't care what you call it. But when you know
Speaker 2: that there is a spiritual force up there and you
Speaker 2: put your trust in it and you surrender, it's okay,
Speaker 2: and it works itself out and you make it out
Speaker 2: on the other side. And I realize, going through this
Speaker 2: one hundred times, oh my god, life is just a
Speaker 2: DMT trip, and it's just a sequence of navigating really
Speaker 2: hard situations and just so rendering during those situations being
Speaker 2: the only way to make through it. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, a large part of like
Speaker 3: what I teach people in this new project that I'm
Speaker 3: working on is you sort of create your future trajectory.
Speaker 3: You create your momentum, and then when you do that,
Speaker 3: then you can relax and you can sort of enjoy
Speaker 3: the ride because you have you know, it's like you're
Speaker 3: in a boat and you're rowing, rowing and rowing, and
Speaker 3: then you have this like momentum and you can just
Speaker 3: you can relax and enjoy it. So there are certain
Speaker 3: times when you have to row, and there are certain
Speaker 3: times when you get to relax, you know, and you'll
Speaker 3: kind of instinctively know when you should row and when
Speaker 3: you should relax. But you can't just row forever because you'll,
Speaker 3: you know, you just can't. You only have a certain
Speaker 3: amount of energy. So there are certain times when you
Speaker 3: are just supposed to surrender and know that Okay, I rowed,
Speaker 3: I rowed, I rode, I'm pointed myself in the right direction,
Speaker 3: I have momentum, I'm flowing. Look at this, let's lay back,
Speaker 3: let's let's enjoy this. Well, this is beautiful, this is fun,
Speaker 3: this is all I mean. It would be a crime
Speaker 3: if you just rode your ass off your whole life.
Speaker 3: You have to you have to row and then relax,
Speaker 3: row and then relax, and that relax part you surrender.
Speaker 3: You just say, hey, I have faith that I'm going
Speaker 3: in the right direction because I rode my ass off
Speaker 3: and I know that I put myself in the right direction.
Speaker 3: Now I get to relax and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2: And sometimes there's a storm. You can't road during a storm,
Speaker 2: the ways are huge, you know. Sometimes life just throws
Speaker 2: things at you from the outside out. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: out of your control. Yeah, it's like the storm. And
Speaker 2: that to me is what I'm talking about too. It's
Speaker 2: brilliant what you said. But then also that when stuff
Speaker 2: comes at you sideways. Every time I go through those situations,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this was just like tripping on DMT when
Speaker 2: every time I make the conclusion, I just have to
Speaker 2: give up control and boom. Anyway. Yeah, I don't mean
Speaker 2: to derail, but that I believe people should should have
Speaker 2: going into like envisioning the future, the negative, the positive,
Speaker 2: what outcome will there be. We're just constant in real
Speaker 2: time rendering holographically from the consciousness field, a little projection
Speaker 2: of our being in real time, moment to moment, live action.
Speaker 2: Throughout eternity. You are constantly being rendered over and over
Speaker 2: and over and over, and Heaven or Hell is not
Speaker 2: in the future. It's not in the past, it's right now,
Speaker 2: and it depends on what state you resonate with your choices,
Speaker 2: your actions, your beliefs about yourself and about your environment.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I'm coming from, is that
Speaker 2: it does no good to envision negativity because if you
Speaker 2: keep envisioning negativity, you're going to create a hellish existence
Speaker 2: and this life and throughout all of eternity. And I
Speaker 2: think that's the game, is learning to be in love
Speaker 2: and being in joy and being in peace, just being
Speaker 2: in that harmonious unity vibration. It doesn't matter if you're
Speaker 2: in the flesh or not. This is eternal. And the
Speaker 2: difference between ALUs and those light beings up there is
Speaker 2: they know this and they've mastered this, and that's why
Speaker 2: there are these infinite beings of light and they can
Speaker 2: come and go as they please because they're in this
Speaker 2: state constantly.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a it's a vibration, you know, it's
Speaker 3: a it's an internal it's an internal vibration. It's like
Speaker 3: there's that chart Hawkings. He wrote an amazing book called
Speaker 3: Power Verse Force. I don't know if you've ever read it,
Speaker 3: but it's a super influential book, and he goes into
Speaker 3: how like, you know, say you're a world leader, you
Speaker 3: can either lead through power or lead through force. And
Speaker 3: force is when you are, you know, trying to force
Speaker 3: somebody to do something against their will. You're trying to
Speaker 3: impose your your will on other people, and it always
Speaker 3: fizzles out and never ends well. And power is when
Speaker 3: you lead from within. It's when you just are resonating
Speaker 3: at such a high level of consciousness that the people
Speaker 3: around you want to do what you say, they want
Speaker 3: to help you, they're all sharing in that same vibration
Speaker 3: and that you can actually lead more effectively, and you
Speaker 3: can and even like do bigger, more grandiose things through
Speaker 3: power than force. And it all comes from just what
Speaker 3: level of your consciousness you're at. And you know, you
Speaker 3: you ask yourself questions throughout the day, this decision I'm
Speaker 3: about to do, this thing I'm about to or this
Speaker 3: prebel decision I'm about to undergo, is this going to
Speaker 3: raise or lower my my level of consciousness? And if
Speaker 3: you're just doing that constantly, then you just consistently raise
Speaker 3: your level of consciousness. And one of the top you know,
Speaker 3: you know kind of levels of consciousness is joy, love,
Speaker 3: those types of things. So when you're doing things that
Speaker 3: are constantly making you happy, bringing enjoy to yourself, bringing
Speaker 3: joy to others, things that you love, you're sharing love.
Speaker 3: You're talking about all these things. The sound so woo
Speaker 3: woo and hippie dippy, but you're literally you are like
Speaker 3: powering up your character, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: you're giving yourself superpowers. You are. You're going to make
Speaker 3: life easier. You're going to be more magnetic. Things are
Speaker 3: going to come to you. People around you are going
Speaker 3: to be more cooperative with you and want to help you.
Speaker 3: Opportunities are going to come to you. You'll be healthier,
Speaker 3: you'll have more in energy. All these things happen if
Speaker 3: you like level up your internal state, you're you know,
Speaker 3: if you kind of look at it like a power
Speaker 3: bar like on a character in a video game. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you are given yourself these
Speaker 3: superpowers just by your thoughts, your actions, your intention. These
Speaker 3: are all internal things. It's not a supplement you take.
Speaker 3: It's not something that oh I was born this way,
Speaker 3: or my genetics or how much money I have. None
Speaker 3: of that matters. It's all about your thoughts inside your actions,
Speaker 3: you know, and your actions just come from your thoughts.
Speaker 3: So whenever you like kind of operate in life that way,
Speaker 3: you look different to other people, you act different, different
Speaker 3: things happen to you. And like you said, these angelic beings,
Speaker 3: these more ascended masters, I think that most of them
Speaker 3: used to be human. I think they're graduates of the
Speaker 3: Earth life system and they've mastered all these things, because
Speaker 3: that's why we come here. This is a school for
Speaker 3: that type of mastery. And once you master all that,
Speaker 3: and once you graduate from this Earth life system, you
Speaker 3: now have that ability. You now look like a freaking
Speaker 3: angel to be well, because you have mastered emotions, you've
Speaker 3: mastered thoughts. You've you've done all these things so many times,
Speaker 3: through so many different perspectives and so many incarnations. You know,
Speaker 3: you've been rich, you've been poor, you've been guy, you've
Speaker 3: been girl. You've been black, you've been white, you've been gay,
Speaker 3: you've been straight, you've been all of the things. You've
Speaker 3: you've done everything. You have so much knowledge and wisdom
Speaker 3: and understanding, you know, and and the output of that,
Speaker 3: the the result of that, I think, are some of
Speaker 3: these you know, angelic type beings that that's just that
Speaker 3: is the result of this this world that we're in.
Speaker 2: I think you might be right. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of these uh mythological heroes and archetypes that we hear
Speaker 2: stories of for thousands of years and we see statues
Speaker 2: of I believe just as you said, that they are
Speaker 2: beings who have mastered Earth life system and they ascended
Speaker 2: to a new level of existence. When I was doing
Speaker 2: my Guidelines Meditation retreat with the Monros tout this past summer,
Speaker 2: I had kind of a thing like that in Focus
Speaker 2: twenty seven where I saw these statues and it was
Speaker 2: like angels, like beings whatever that people like Enoch, you know, Medatron, Jesus,
Speaker 2: the archangel, Michael, Raphael, these beings that we read about
Speaker 2: them in texts and we know their names even and
Speaker 2: we pray to them to this day. They're like gods
Speaker 2: to us, so to speak. It was kind of like
Speaker 2: said in my experience that that they that they were
Speaker 2: people like us, long long long ago, who ascended from
Speaker 2: Earth life after many lifetimes at mastery. So I agree
Speaker 2: with you and and I think there's something to that.
Speaker 2: And we even have stories of beings ascending like Jesus
Speaker 2: or like Metatron, you know, or I could probably think
Speaker 2: of others, Ezekiel, maybe Elijah for sure. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: sure I could think of a few more if I
Speaker 2: really thought about it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it gives us something to look forward to,
Speaker 3: like like, this is a just a torture academy. We're
Speaker 3: not just here, you know, as like you know, we're
Speaker 3: not just sims in some advanced intelligence's game that they're
Speaker 3: just like playing. I mean, maybe there is some manipulation
Speaker 3: going on at some level, but like that wasn't the
Speaker 3: intention of the system. The system I think was created
Speaker 3: as a school to produce these ascended masters.
Speaker 2: That's part of the game too, the negativity, the manipulation.
Speaker 3: Every school has bullies, right, you have to survive the bullies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's part of the curriculum, I believe, is
Speaker 2: to learn to see through that, you know, to wake
Speaker 2: up and in spite of that still overcome it. I
Speaker 2: agree with you, but and I think you're right, and
Speaker 2: just like to elaborate on that this isn't some I
Speaker 2: think it is an ARCon control system. And it is
Speaker 2: kind of like the Gnostics would say, hell, but it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: that's good news because could be way worse. You know what,
Speaker 2: I mean could be way worse.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like I don't know if the system was
Speaker 3: designed with intentionally or if it just allowed them to enter,
Speaker 3: because it looks at it as one more layer of complexity,
Speaker 3: one more challenge for the avatars, one more obstacle for
Speaker 3: the human consciousnesses to you know, to navigate. So it's
Speaker 3: almost as if like they're like, hey, you know, we
Speaker 3: might not have and I don't know, speculation, we might
Speaker 3: not have created this system with these negative influences, but
Speaker 3: it maybe allows it to occur because it's all, it
Speaker 3: just adds to the curriculum. Like you said, it's one
Speaker 3: more class for the human consciousness.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you have you dove much into a gnosticism?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's probably my favorite of all the
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't even call it a religion, but
Speaker 3: you know what I mean of all those ways of thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I like the idea that like this,
Speaker 2: this world isn't necessarily, like you said, designed to be hell,
Speaker 2: it kind of acts I did only spawn into existence
Speaker 2: through ignorance. I think that makes sense that, like in
Speaker 2: an infinite multi dimensional universe that spawned every layer of
Speaker 2: reality is thought and to form by consciousness. There's like this,
Speaker 2: this one macrocosm of a mind that just at one
Speaker 2: point had a self reflection, and then from that self
Speaker 2: reflection came you know, the lady, the divine feminine, and
Speaker 2: that this original macrocosmic mind is so ineffable and so
Speaker 2: unknowable that she looks around and she's like, well, there's
Speaker 2: nobody but me, there's nobody above me. I'm kind of lonely,
Speaker 2: so I'd like to create. But she has no knowledge
Speaker 2: of the higher power above her, and it's even invisible
Speaker 2: to her. So through her ignorance of the truth of
Speaker 2: the higher power, she creates. And it's like again, through ignorance,
Speaker 2: she makes a mistake, it makes the demiurge, and then
Speaker 2: the demiurge says the same thing, Well, there's no one
Speaker 2: above me, so I might as well create, and he
Speaker 2: creates the material world and like enslaves us here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that highighest consciousness sees it all Sostic story, yeah,
Speaker 2: the monad right, So this is the gnostic version, right,
Speaker 2: So that highest consciousness helps us and like wakes us
Speaker 2: up and sends assistance to us through the angelic forces
Speaker 2: and through the life and death of Jesus and many others.
Speaker 2: And I think that makes a lot of sense that
Speaker 2: it's like our condition here is hellish and grueling, but
Speaker 2: it's not by God's design. It's by some kind of
Speaker 2: falling into place. It's like we just evolved out of
Speaker 2: the original consciousness. Whether it's serendipity, whether it was intentional,
Speaker 2: who knows. But we're here and there's a way out
Speaker 2: because we come all the way from that, you know,
Speaker 2: that original. We have the spark of that original or
Speaker 2: like yeah, holograms of that being. So even the little
Speaker 2: lower demiurge can't keep us here forever because we come
Speaker 2: from something greater than him.
Speaker 3: Well you see what the common thread is, they're all
Speaker 3: that's it's curiosity in creativity. So I don't even know
Speaker 3: if it was a mistake or ignorance. You know, you
Speaker 3: have Sophia who who was curious and created a world
Speaker 3: and created a demiurge, and then the demiurge created humans,
Speaker 3: and then humans have created like let's just you know,
Speaker 3: fast forward. We've created Ai, you know, and so and
Speaker 3: we're creating virtual worlds. So you see the common thread
Speaker 3: is is we're creators made in the likeness of our creator,
Speaker 3: and our creator was made in the likeness of their creator,
Speaker 3: and their creator was made in the likeness of their creator.
Speaker 3: And you see every single one of them all the
Speaker 3: way down. At some point gets curious. You get to
Speaker 3: this this tipping point of kind of intellectual awareness, and
Speaker 3: you say, okay, what else is out there? You start
Speaker 3: becoming more curious, and then you can get to this
Speaker 3: creative tipping point where you're like, okay, well, if I
Speaker 3: can't find it, or if I don't know where it is,
Speaker 3: maybe I'll just create my own. And people create beings,
Speaker 3: you know. We have children, we create worlds, we create,
Speaker 3: you know, all sorts of things. And I don't think
Speaker 3: it's I don't think we're doing anything wrong, and I
Speaker 3: don't think it's ignorance. I think it's it's part of
Speaker 3: our design, because we are chips off the old block,
Speaker 3: you know, we're we're we are creators with a spark
Speaker 3: of the creator within us, and it's only it's inevitable.
Speaker 3: At some point we are going to create. And sometimes
Speaker 3: our creations will be good. Sometimes our creations will be bad,
Speaker 3: but we don't know that until we create, you know,
Speaker 3: And I just think that that's this natural part of
Speaker 3: everything is to eventually get to a point where you
Speaker 3: become a creator yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I completely agree, and I didn't think about it
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, it's like we're chip off the old block.
Speaker 2: So we're doing exactly what every one before us was doing.
Speaker 2: We're creating and creating and creating and creating.
Speaker 3: And obviously that creator if you go all the way
Speaker 3: back and you go let's say we go to the monad,
Speaker 3: well we would say, okay, well that that creator was
Speaker 3: obviously perfect. You know, they wouldn't make any mistakes like us.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, no, they had a child, Sophia, who
Speaker 3: made a mistake. So obviously that creator is not perfect
Speaker 3: because it created a non per offspring or whatever, you know,
Speaker 3: a partition of itself, and then that offspring or that
Speaker 3: partition of itself created something that was not perfect, the
Speaker 3: demi urge, and it created something that was not perfect,
Speaker 3: the human you know what I mean. And we're creating AI,
Speaker 3: which is obviously not perfect. So I don't even know
Speaker 3: if you go all the way up, if there's perfection,
Speaker 3: because if there is perfection would be the point of reality.
Speaker 3: I think one of the points of reality is the
Speaker 3: evolution of the forum. And we're doing all this to
Speaker 3: learn and to grow and evolve. And I know it
Speaker 3: sounds blasphemous to some people, but I think even the
Speaker 3: ultimate Creator is still learning and growing and evolving through
Speaker 3: all of our experience. I think that's the entire point
Speaker 3: of reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think so too. And I would
Speaker 2: add a caveat that. I would say, like, the original
Speaker 2: consciousness is perfect, it's ineffable. But I wonder if in
Speaker 2: the contemplation of itself, because a lot of these mystery
Speaker 2: school traditions they say that the first reflection or the
Speaker 2: first movement of consciousness was like the inner reflection. That's
Speaker 2: why at the what is it like the temples of
Speaker 2: the Leucis or whatever? I could be butchering that, but
Speaker 2: it says know thyself? Is it Plato? There's one of
Speaker 2: these Greek philosophers they say, know thyself? And maybe it's Socrates.
Speaker 2: I don't freaking know, but it's a very important phrase
Speaker 2: in mystery school tradition and in Rosicrucianism. They tell you
Speaker 2: about like the points of that form the triangle and
Speaker 2: the movement of consciousness in the beginning, and at first
Speaker 2: there was this original expression, and then another one came
Speaker 2: into form, and then you have two dimensions male and female,
Speaker 2: light and dark polarity, and then they create the third
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's us material, you know, life created
Speaker 2: from the divine whatever. But I wonder if in that
Speaker 2: inner reflection that the paradox of duality became true and
Speaker 2: therefore imperfection came into form, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: just sitting around being perfect all the time, like this
Speaker 2: freaking boring, and think about you know, yourself and the
Speaker 2: nature of being imperfect in learning and growing even though
Speaker 2: it's not necessary, and then boom, these lesser beings come
Speaker 2: into form. That's just be spit in philosophy.
Speaker 3: But what makes you wonder, like, Okay, if the ultimate
Speaker 3: creator is perfect, was it developed and created perfect or
Speaker 3: did it obtain perfection through trillions and trillions and trillions
Speaker 3: of experiences? And is that what we are? We are
Speaker 3: the we're the internal evolution of that perfection? Like how
Speaker 3: do you just become perfect out of the gates? I mean,
Speaker 3: like don't you wouldn't you have to grow into perfection
Speaker 3: because how would you even know you're perfect if you
Speaker 3: don't have anything to compare it to it is, So
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's a harow. I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously these are unknowable answers. But like and I don't
Speaker 3: look at it like I'm you know, saying anything in
Speaker 3: a negative way about the Creator, because like I said,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a creator. I have children, so I
Speaker 3: created those children. I'm not perfect, and neither are they.
Speaker 3: You know, my job is to actually grow and evolve
Speaker 3: through my kids. Like my kids teach me things and
Speaker 3: I become a better person because of my creation. So
Speaker 3: even at the top, I would assume that one at
Speaker 3: the top can still grow and learn from all the
Speaker 3: things underneath it. So even if it was perfect, it
Speaker 3: could get perfect or you know, it could still continue
Speaker 3: to learn and to grow. Are we doing any of.
Speaker 2: The Mormons have a doctrine called, I think it's called
Speaker 2: the doctrine of continual increase, and it's this notion. It's
Speaker 2: the very same notion that through the Mormons that are
Speaker 2: going through salvation and et cetera, that even God, the
Speaker 2: intelligences of God are like continually increasing forever. And I
Speaker 2: think that that was probably taken from it. I think
Speaker 2: it's very obvious there's a lot of Freemasonry in Egyptian
Speaker 2: stuff and Mormonism. If you know, like high level Mormons,
Speaker 2: and you talk to them in secret, they'll they'll show
Speaker 2: you the hieroglyphs in their books. They'll talk to you
Speaker 2: about like the Freemason symbols they learn and all that.
Speaker 2: It's not an original thought. Mormonism, I think is like
Speaker 2: a distilled version of esoteric philosophy and then they turn
Speaker 2: it into a control system. But there is a notion
Speaker 2: of this in some schools of thought, that God is
Speaker 2: continually increasing or evolving through us. And I think if
Speaker 2: I had to put a like a a visual on God,
Speaker 2: that it's like the all seeing eye, right, But that
Speaker 2: eye is not a symbol on you know, a dollar bill.
Speaker 2: In reality, if you looked at it in its truest form,
Speaker 2: it's probably an energetic to royal field that's eternally flowing
Speaker 2: in and out of itself. So it's like an eye.
Speaker 2: An eye is like a to royal field, right. And
Speaker 2: it's just this constant witness state of consciousness. Witness state
Speaker 2: meaning you're not judging, you're not you're just like you're
Speaker 2: you're in a complete state of stillness. And you're witnessing,
Speaker 2: you know, when you get into that transcendental state of
Speaker 2: meditation and it's just blackness and you're just viewing your perceiving.
Speaker 2: That's what I think God is. It's like this enormous
Speaker 2: eye or to royal field of constant just eternal inward
Speaker 2: and outward flow of energy like the oraboris right, this
Speaker 2: eternal cycle.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, so is talk Mentov. He trawls the
Speaker 3: universe as a cosmic egg and it's a toroidal shape.
Speaker 3: Robert Monroe. I just finished my book report series on him,
Speaker 3: and at the end of Ultimate Journey, he talks about
Speaker 3: when he goes to the emitter and the aperture, that
Speaker 3: the emitter is essentially a white hole and the aperture
Speaker 3: is a black hole, and that there is an inflow
Speaker 3: and an outflow, and it's just essentially a huge circle
Speaker 3: and that you know, you leave as a little shard
Speaker 3: of you know, a little piece of partition, a little
Speaker 3: fractalized version of source. You go out, you get bigger
Speaker 3: and bigger, you grow and learn, and then when you
Speaker 3: come back, you go into the aperture and you bring
Speaker 3: your quote unquote gifts and your gifts are your knowledge,
Speaker 3: your your experience, your love that you learned along the
Speaker 3: way and you return. And that essentially if you take
Speaker 3: if you look at source as being one entity. Okay,
Speaker 3: so that entity is as big and as perfect as
Speaker 3: it is, imagine shattering it to a million pieces, having
Speaker 3: all those pieces go out and find their way way back.
Speaker 3: As they find their way back, they're going to come
Speaker 3: back bigger than they left. And then when they reaccumulate,
Speaker 3: now that hole which was once this big, is now
Speaker 3: this big. So the whole point of this continuous process
Speaker 3: of fracturing yourself and then rebuilding yourself is that every
Speaker 3: time you do it, you get bigger and bigger and bigger,
Speaker 3: and you learn and you grow and you evolve. So
Speaker 3: you could have, you know, a God, a source of
Speaker 3: creator that was and is and always will be perfect.
Speaker 3: But it's still continuously growing. You know, it's never done.
Speaker 2: Man, it's just hard to think about infinity. It's crazy,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we're meant to no.
Speaker 2: I And during our conversation I did have a little
Speaker 2: bit of an existential crisis, like, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: does infinity look like? You know? And I think my
Speaker 2: head is spinning in circles. But before we dip, I
Speaker 2: think that was really profound, and it went and the
Speaker 2: conversation today as a whole Witten directions I didn't expect.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that, and I hope that the people
Speaker 2: at home, you know, benefit from this, or if anything,
Speaker 2: just enjoyed the hang. But I do like to ask
Speaker 2: my guests before we close, if you had the audience
Speaker 2: of the entire world listening to you right now, and
Speaker 2: you had the mic, what's the most important nugget of
Speaker 2: wisdom that you would leave?
Speaker 3: Okay? So my new project is called Law of Probability,
Speaker 3: and it's based on the idea that our future is
Speaker 3: probabilistic and that it's defined by so imagine your future
Speaker 3: being you know, pathways like those spaghetti models from hurricanes.
Speaker 3: You know, here's all the possible paths you can go,
Speaker 3: and each one of those paths is a possibility, and
Speaker 3: each one is a sign of probability. And we live
Speaker 3: in a quantum world. This universe is quantum by nature,
Speaker 3: so everything is probabilistic, and everything is just these wave functions,
Speaker 3: and so the wave function is just all the possibilities.
Speaker 3: Whenever you make a conscious observation or measurement. It collapses.
Speaker 3: It collapses into the highest probability, and that's what your
Speaker 3: path is. That's what your future is. Your future is
Speaker 3: nothing more than a whole bunch of collapses of the
Speaker 3: wave function that's constantly collapsing into the highest probability. And
Speaker 3: we can do something called probability engineering, which means that
Speaker 3: we can engineer particular pathways to have a higher probability
Speaker 3: so that it's more certain to collapse, and that's the
Speaker 3: pathway that you're more probable to go down, so in
Speaker 3: a way that we can manifest our future outcomes. This
Speaker 3: is all based in quantum physics. This is how the
Speaker 3: world actually renders. Now knowing that the most important thing
Speaker 3: that you could do, the most important thing anyone could
Speaker 3: ever do, is to have complete agency and to know that, okay,
Speaker 3: at a subconscious level, we are guided and your future,
Speaker 3: all those paths, you're just kind of guided and influenced
Speaker 3: by outside things. Your probability is being engineered by outside influences,
Speaker 3: out side sources. You're being engineered to make this decision
Speaker 3: to buy this product, to go here, to go here, whatever,
Speaker 3: to say this, to think this, So all day every
Speaker 3: day we're manifesting our future, and we are probability engineering
Speaker 3: our future. But most people aren't doing it consciously. Most
Speaker 3: people are doing it subconsciously from all these myriad of
Speaker 3: outside influences. Now, what I would leave the world with
Speaker 3: is to say that the future has not been created.
Speaker 3: It's a probabilistic future. It is being created and rendered
Speaker 3: in real time by you, by your actions at this moment,
Speaker 3: based on your past trajectory, based on your current free
Speaker 3: will decisions, your future will be rendered. So knowing that,
Speaker 3: make sure that you protect yourself from outside influences that
Speaker 3: are trying to negatively engineer your probabilities, and take your
Speaker 3: life into your own hand and start engineering your own probability.
Speaker 3: Start laying down a new pathway and doing all the
Speaker 3: things that you can to raise the probability of that
Speaker 3: pathway to the highest degree so that it becomes inevitable.
Speaker 3: Your future becomes inevitable based on you, not outside sources.
Speaker 3: Because if this is true and our reality is engineered probabilistically,
Speaker 3: that means that you have ultimate control because your reality,
Speaker 3: but you don't have You're not the only one that
Speaker 3: controls it. So it's very important to know that it
Speaker 3: can be influenced from outside sources, and it is all day,
Speaker 3: every day. So I just want people to understand that
Speaker 3: life isn't happening to you. You are the co creator
Speaker 3: of your life, and you have agency and you have ultimate,
Speaker 3: you know, direction of your own life. You just have
Speaker 3: to take it into your hands, you know, So don't
Speaker 3: just go with the flow, you know, like really really
Speaker 3: think about where you're headed, what your purpose is here.
Speaker 3: Connect with your hires. They'll find your guidance. And when
Speaker 3: you find your guidance, you can plot your course and
Speaker 3: you can actually, like I said, do certain things that
Speaker 3: I teach people to do in my new course, and
Speaker 3: you can do things to engineer your probability to the
Speaker 3: point where whatever it is you want to happen, you
Speaker 3: can make it almost inevitable by raising that probability to
Speaker 3: damn near one hundred percent. So your life doesn't happen
Speaker 3: to you, You happen to your life. That's what I
Speaker 3: would say.
Speaker 2: I love that. That's very profound and it wrapped up
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that we just naturally covered
Speaker 2: in conversation today. So thanks again for doing this on
Speaker 2: such short notice with me. I mean, I think I
Speaker 2: texted you like two days ago, Hey, you around this
Speaker 2: week You're like, yeah, heck, yeah dude, So I appreciate that. Guys,
Speaker 2: please go check out Jordan's podcast, Conscious Observers. It's very
Speaker 2: new and as we discussed, he's having a meteoric rise,
Speaker 2: and ultimately his content is amazing. It's very captivating. So
Speaker 2: one more time, could you plug your socials and all that? Jordan?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the best way is go to my website,
Speaker 3: Digijordan dot com. It has linked to everything, and but yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm on all the things. You know, my name will
Speaker 3: usually either be Jordan dot Prowder or Digi Jordan. And
Speaker 3: so I'm on X the most, and I put out
Speaker 3: two videos every week too long form every week on YouTube.
Speaker 3: We do a live every Saturday with my wife, and
Speaker 3: I have two new episodes that come out every week
Speaker 3: on Conscious Observers. It's on Spotify and Apple and all
Speaker 3: the major podcasting things. And I'm writing a book right now,
Speaker 3: so that book should be out in February. And just
Speaker 3: dropped a new course in a new community all around
Speaker 3: the law of probability. And that's kind of my new
Speaker 3: thing that I've been guided to do. So that's what
Speaker 3: I'm working on now.
Speaker 2: Dude. Your hustle is insane. Your hustle is insane. Two
Speaker 2: episodes a week, two videos a week, plus a live
Speaker 2: every Saturday, plus a book coming out in like three
Speaker 2: months or two months. Excuse me, it's madness. It's just
Speaker 2: like props to you, and that takes insane discipline.
Speaker 3: Well, I, like we talked about earlier, my higher self
Speaker 3: of the modrones to kick me in the butt and
Speaker 3: said get to work it. Basically, my quote that it
Speaker 3: gave me was there's not enough time for baby steps.
Speaker 3: I wrote that down in the journals, so I got
Speaker 3: out of meditation and the check you in it not
Speaker 3: enough time for baby steps. So that was my kick
Speaker 3: in the butt. So I listened.
Speaker 2: Good for you. Thank you so much for joining us again,
Speaker 2: and to the listeners at home, we love you. Thank
Speaker 2: you for your support, thank you for checking out Jordan's show.
Speaker 2: Thank you for enjoying our conversation. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. Bye guys, Bye guys.
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