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Mac of All Trade Studio and from Victor the Build.
Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your on, Thanks
for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word
about the Pirate ship. Kevin's and his ranger gear, Danny's
in his Joey Bosa gear. He's all excited about Bosa.
He's not saying any.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's cool. I like the signing.
Speaker 4: We'll get into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get it into that later. Or also joined
by Richard Gray from a Gray Metal Products, who is
a longstanding Rochester company, which I think is amazing. And
he was telling us before we started here because I
had read something that the company started like an eighteen
nineties and more like nineteen hundred nineteen oh five. But
a lot of times we hear about you know, the
next generation. Uh, the business falls apart. They maybe just
don't have the business of cumin. Maybe they were I
don't know, a little spoiled growing up, and they just
these guys took this thing and it exploded. There's gray
metal South, there's this, there's I mean, it's incredible what
you've done, or what your family has done.
Speaker 5: I should say I'm fourth generation. Yeah, family business. So
to get to four generations, as you know, wow, an
accomplishment in itself.
Speaker 3: Go back to the Roosevelt era, the first Roosevelt area.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean it's it's eddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's hard. It's hard to have business and
the climate changes and how hard it is even within
our own state to do things.
Speaker 5: The state makes it difficult. You know. Our benefit is
that we can look at a P and L statement
from North Carolina P and L statement out of Georgia
or Tennessee plants and we can say, okay, you know,
taxes and labor and those plants is about the same, right.
You know, it's the labor up and down East Coast.
You're not going to hire someone for fifteen dollars an
hour today, you really aren't. We all offer the same
benefits you know, insurance down there is a little cheaper,
you know, health insurance due to the fact that you
really only have one health insurance company in the state
of New York, sort of like your cable TV provider
its spectrum. Right, you can't go anywhere else, but down
there they have where they can they can get competing quotes,
and they can get competing quotes from out of state companies.
We're not allowed to do that in New York.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, So I love New York.
Speaker 4: I don't hate it, Danny.
Speaker 3: But the only thing we have in the state is
the fact that we don't have alligators, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes,
mud slides.
Speaker 1: I'll take it, sharks, I'll take it.
Speaker 3: I'll take that.
Speaker 5: They're giving us fires though they are getting Hey, you
can't say hurricanes because we've had hurricanes.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have New York.
Speaker 3: They got their own problems. They take all our money.
They can afford a hurricane every once in a while.
Speaker 5: Look, I lived in the South. That's beautiful, but the
summers are very hot. You don't want to be down there.
Where in the South where I lived in Rally, Yeah,
I lived down there for five years.
Speaker 3: Oh do you know Bob Owmen, who owns the Omen
Theater in Lions He uh, he had a housing company
down there.
Speaker 1: Okay, why do you know Bob Owmen?
Speaker 3: Because he owns the Newark Pilots and the Oh and
the Geneva Redwings. He also owns the Omen Theater, which
is the oldest family owned theater in America.
Speaker 4: Who was the guyans?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you weren't part of the show? Then we used
to have a guy he.
Speaker 3: Owned Saint Lawrence Holmes in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Called an old He was a bicycle. It was Harry
from Carry Carry North Carta.
Speaker 3: I never Harry from Carry.
Speaker 1: And he had yes, and Harry had a bicycle shot down?
Speaker 3: There no T shirt shop?
Speaker 5: T shirt shop, that's right. I thought it was the
bicycle Harry Carey's in Chicago too, isn't there? Yes, Well
that would that would be the Cubs guy. That would be,
by the way, a small world.
Speaker 3: I end up recruiting a guy who knew Harry from
Carry and remembered his T shirt shop. I'm not joking.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, uh So the primary customer for Great Metal products,
I would assume HVAC companies right, hva.
Speaker 5: C distributors all sale distribution.
Speaker 1: Right, So home builders h commercial stuff as well.
Speaker 5: So we do light commercial you know light round, you
know square is it's just our product is very freak sensitive.
We do pre fabs so we can nest residential where
spiral you know that you look up and see there
that's big round duck work and wet Man's or Walmart
you do that as well. We do the round jazz.
You don't do the square. You don't do the square square.
Speaker 1: It just takes.
Speaker 5: It's just yeah, we have a few companies that will
pass off square if we have quotes on them. That's
not something you can really stock. We ship from stock,
so residential you can stock. Yeah, you know you can
put uh one hundred feet of six inch pipe in one.
Speaker 1: So are these are they doing more residential in the
round now.
Speaker 5: You do a lot of residential that's you know, strictly
for all homes are round and square.
Speaker 1: I remember square used to be the thing.
Speaker 5: Well, your dockwork is square, but through your walls or
you know you're oh, I got you here to uh
you know you have to branch out. Yeah, you do
your square duck to rooms and then going through the walls.
Speaker 1: But even that used to be sometimes square, but a
tighter square like the old tin thing that would come up.
Speaker 5: That is wall stack. Yeah, that's that's stack that's in
the wall. So square, you know. Yeah, so it would
fit between the two and a quarter three.
Speaker 1: But do your.
Speaker 5: Research not twelve inch wide? Now it's oval. Yeah ah,
Now it's an oval, so I can snap together. They
used to have to slide that together. You would need uh,
sixteen foot in a basement to slide that together, and
then you have feed up work. Now you need eight foot.
You snapped the oval together and you slide it into
a wall.
Speaker 1: Did you do stuff? Did you do hvac? In addition
to the company man, did you ever go out with
the guys just to see it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: Oh, I've been on a lot of jobs. I mean
that's what I been a lot of job sites. We
uh you know, if the contractor you go, you walk
into a job and new home that's being built, you
want to see whose names on it? We stamp our
name on everything. So pretty cool to walk into a
house if you're looking at we just bought uh we
just got a house from my son and daughter in law,
and uh, I told the real trest said I'm not
buying it. I'm not buying a house unless my aductentent.
You know, the house is built back in the forties
and or fifties, and you know, fortunately had our product.
Then look at that, you know, so it's cool to see. Yeah, sure,
you know, yeah, but no, I you know, job sites,
you go out on them, you see them. You want
to see what they're doing. Right, these big apartment buildings
or high rises and stuff you're going to need residential
you have to you know, you can't use spiral in
a in an apartment, spiral is exposed. It's all of
ours is put behind the wall.
Speaker 1: Right, So those that's why you see the stuff in
Wegmans and things.
Speaker 5: Right right, that's why you see it's exposed. There's no
reason to cover that up. That's a commercial product. But
our product, you know, we sell to an HVAC distributors
who in turn service to contractor. Okay, you know these
you know contractors aren't stocking it. They'll deliver to the
job site. You know, are doing one job at a time.
Where we have distributors that have h you know, value
in a home today is probably eighteen hundred to two thousand,
depend upon the size of the home. It's eighteen hundred
and two thousand. You know, it's what you're gonna pay
from the contractor. So we have distributors have probably an
inventory one hundred homes okay, you know, a hundred homes
worth value. But we backfill every one of our distribution points.
We backfilled once a week. So we make three hundred
and fifty deliveries a week wow around the East coast.
And that's that's just our location out of Avon. We have,
you know, the other four or five four locations, four locations,
they have their own trucking fleet as well.
Speaker 1: You got an empire basically in a way.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of nice what you built like
it started out.
Speaker 1: But look, I would think that your great great grandfather
would be so proud of what's I think my great
grandfather would, don't you My grandfather, my dad. You know,
we lost my dad eighteen years ago, so I think
he would be happy to know that the fourth generation
has continued the traditions. Yeah, we didn't take a step back.
Usually when he leads, you know, you lose a person
that you know, my father's position, you know, when he
took over the company, I think I told you had
five people. Him and my mom were side by side.
So you know, even though ust kids were in the business,
when we're out, you know, the other divisions were starting.
We were dealing with the customers. Everybody knew my dad
right right right, I want to see you know they Yeah. Yeah,
it was like a Tommy Boy situation for you where
you're going out there now.
Speaker 5: I mean I'd been in sales since I was nineteen
twenty years old, so you know, I joke with my mother.
You know, I joke with my brothers because we all
have our own distributors. Yeah, you know, radius we stopped
the Mason Dixon line. I go south of Mason Dixon line,
I'm going to get a phone call for the family.
I'm not happy. And if they come north, I'm going
to call them. But we service a whole East coast
and we go out as far as Illinois out of
our facility.
Speaker 1: All right, Oh, you've told me back in the day,
you were a kid, nine year old working on the floor.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 5: Until there was nothing that us and my sister included
and my mother, there was nothing that this fan that
my family did not do on a plant floor. My
mother I can tell you ten years ago, we were
joking and I said, my mother can run that machine
and get you know, that much production off that machine.
And you know, my mother was seventy three years old,
and she went down to the machine and staff down
on the machine and uh for four hours and she
did the production. And I, you know, laughed at a
twenty year old kid that said it couldn't be done.
I said, you know, she's had a couple surgeries on
her neck, her hands operated on. You know, she's seventy
three years old.
Speaker 3: Well, she's got dinner in the oven too, she's multitaskic
Dan's in the kitchen. Grandma got me work here.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, you know you're gonna laugh at this. A
fourteen inch elbow, it's pretty big. Elbum's ninety three elbow.
And we used to put them in donuts we call
them donuts or rings. Four to a ring, and you
would put a dozen into a box. Well that box
was probably as wide as this table on each side
and about that high, and my mother would cut one
and a half, make it up, tape it, throw a
couple of blankets in. At my youngest brother, Joey. That
was his playpen so she could sit next to a
machine and run a machine. Yeah, you know, so us
kids were there was nothing we didn't do. My sister
included my mother.
Speaker 1: So that's a great American company, right. I mean when
you think about uh and brought up almost I don't
want to say by the boot straps, but by bootstraps, right,
I mean that's we were brought up in a business. Yeah,
that's a so you know, Kevin called me yesterday and said, uh,
we could talk to you about the tariffs with you now,
just to get people. I think people hear tariffs. I
think we see a lot of headlines now. I don't
know that we absorb a lot. I think that there's
almost too much information that comes out.
Speaker 5: That scares people.
Speaker 1: It sure it does.
Speaker 5: It scares people rightfully. So but you know, I think, uh,
it was it was said before even tariffs, you know,
before any of the talks of tariffs, that to move
our economy forward and to straighten a lot of things
out in our economy, we're going to feel pain for
sixty nine months now. I just looked at the new
CPI number to come out that that dropped. That's that's
lower today than it was February's number for inflation.
Speaker 1: What a CPI for people cost consumer.
Speaker 5: Price and so inflation is down. It's lower than what
they expected to It's two point seven percent I think
a month of February. I think they were expecting two
point nine. So when you really look at the percentage,
it's eight percent less than what they were expecting.
Speaker 1: Gotcha.
Speaker 5: So the market started to recover a little bit when
that number come out. You know, but people get scared
with tariffs and it's not just steal it's it's.
Speaker 4: On avocados from Mexico.
Speaker 5: Well you know, hey, I forgot to bring in avoca.
Speaker 1: It's a second this is the thing, but just for
people by President Trump signed the executive order I believe
at the beginning of February, and it was twenty five
percent on goods from Canada and Mexico. I believe it
was ten percent imposed on China and ten personal ten
additional ten right on what's already there. Right so now
that I don't know where that puts the percentage at
overall total, and I think another ten percent on gas
and electricity and things coming from Canada. I think there
was an additional ten percent of those items as.
Speaker 5: Well going into Canada. US selling product into Canada, we
put a ten percent, yes, energy products right on energy
going in going in. Yeah, so it goes back and forth.
Got you know we you know people say stealing aluminum, Uh,
stealing aluminum is sold into Canada from US manufacturers and
we find so it's cross border, right, It's all depends,
you know, can we afford to go up there? You know?
Speaker 4: Well, look, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean we we live in a world where we
could all walk into Walmart and things from China are
really cheap, and we buy a bunch of crap and
I'll even go places. I call it like disposable clothing, right,
it's clothing Chinese. Yeah. I've never bought from Timo.
Speaker 4: My buddy swears by it.
Speaker 3: I had the app for a week and I took
it off because it just gets spammed.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not saying that as a
I would never buy it from Tima. I'm not saying that.
I just it's too confused.
Speaker 4: I never have.
Speaker 5: I never, I never have.
Speaker 1: You know, Keith the camera guy, Yeah, he buys it
in her all the time. He'll come I will go
golf and be like, oh, I got you this thing
for your putter. S up the bed, don't pick up
your ball. Hey, thanks, Keith put a nineteen cents. I see, Like, okay,
so that's sort of stuff. Will those Well, can you
put a tariff on the stuff from Timo? I would
assume you could.
Speaker 5: Any problem if so. I don't know how Timo works,
but I don't know. So let's say let's use Walmart.
They're they're the behemoth. Okay, So if Timo is anything
like Walmart, they're buying their products through anything that comes
out of China that comes into the United States. If
they ship it to a wholesaleer and the wholesale or
ships it to the United States, you're still going to
pay a terrify.
Speaker 1: On that, Yeah, right? Would it be the twenty five
percent additional? I mean, here's the idea. The idea behind
the teriff from what I understand, and I'm not certainly
not an economist anyway, but I would think is to
get you to buy American. We want to make their
products a little more expensive and support our own economy
and buy local only to support businesses, say like you
right that family owned bought brought up here, expanded it's
an American meeting, You're an American success story.
Speaker 5: Well they're they're not. They're not doing it to uh
force you to buy American.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: What they're doing is, you know, a terriff.
Speaker 1: It the level of plane.
Speaker 5: It's leveling a playing field because they're saying is hey,
you've you've abused us long enough. Okay, so and you
continue to do it. So if they have lower uh,
they don't have lower input cost. You know, steel cost
the same. You know, your raw materials to manufacture steel
are based on a world price. Okay, so you know,
and everything is traded on the US dollar. So it
doesn't matter. If China goes and buys raw material from India,
they have to pay for that raw material and the
US dollar, So they have to take their money converted
to US dollar to pay for that.
Speaker 4: The dollar.
Speaker 5: The dollar is the currency of the world.
Speaker 4: Did not I don't know that most people knew that.
I didn't.
Speaker 5: So if you want to buy product if Canada, so
let's say Ray Metal wants a place in order, I
buy from a trader. Dan's a trader, Kevin's the steel mill.
Right certainly is you're you're you're the banker's.
Speaker 3: The he's a great package, the best packer we know that.
Speaker 5: The incompany says, here's a price quote for steel. Richard,
I say, great, I'm going to buy a thousand tons. Okay,
so let's call that thousand tons worth two million dollars.
Dan takes that order back to the mill. You are
going to finance the mill. But he has to have
credit insurance on me. So there's actually two credit insurance
companies out there that look at our financial ability to
pay for that material when it comes in like a bank. Yep.
They guarantee that if I don't pay him, he can
activate what they call a letter of credit. The insurance
company pays him that fast, then he pays them. He
has to pay Kevin when the steel gets into port Ah,
so within thirty days we have to receive that material end,
so we have thirty days to pay. So he's financing
the material for sixty days. If we don't pay thirty
days after we receive that material, he can activate a
letter of credit and then that insurance company will not
share gray metal again in the future. So that's why
people get credit insurance. But the dollar is the currency
of the world, okay, So you have China and a
couple of other countries that are trying to put together
and create their own exchange like bricks. Yeah, that's what
the That's exactly what China, China, I think, Korea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, there's an Ess and there somewhere
South Africa, South.
Speaker 5: Africa, I think. Yes, they're all trying to create their
own currency against what they've done is if Brazil wants
to buy from South Africa, they use bricks, bricks, yes,
if they use that money, where where they exchange the world?
And I think we've been in exchange for one hundred years?
Speaker 1: How did I never know that that the war? Like
more or less the world economy is based on the
American You're too busy doing Penis radio. Well that explains it.
Speaker 5: Anything moves on an American dollar in the world. Everything
moves on your back. So that's why you hold the
world's gold. We don't hold just our gold. Yeah, you
hold the world's gold, gotcha.
Speaker 1: You know, Rick James and Rolex remember when we talk
about the tariffs and things, because I think there's so
many people who are not understood, you know what I mean?
They did? They so many people that know there was
a woman behind you. She was pointing to a Bill's
logo on her sleeve. Because of Dan's hat, I apologize for.
What I wanted to say was like with the with terriffs,
is they do sound scary? Are things going to cost more?
There are certain things that we can't get but import
them right most for not always. I think you can
probably get an avocado out of heethern California and Arizona, Mexico.
Speaker 5: But Chinese donuts tequila is going to cost you a
little bit more.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know more, Sammy Hagar, would you? I don't
feel bad.
Speaker 1: Form Is there a chance that the tariffs will affect
a supply chain in any way? No? Okay that no
delays or difficulties. Probably because of all this stuff.
Speaker 5: There's baseball season. If you want it, you'll pay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 6: Let me.
Speaker 5: Let me explain to how tariffs work.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: So let's say let's say tomorrow morning, Donald Trump wakes
up and says, I'm putting a twenty five percent tariff
on anything coming from China. Okay, let's say that boat
is three hours from the dock. Yeah, they have to
pay that twenty five percent tariff before they're allowed to
dock because it's not been received in the United States.
That is how fast tariff's going to a fact.
Speaker 4: You're kidding, no, So they'll call.
Speaker 5: So what they'll do. Anybody on that boat, Everybody who's
got product on that boat that had you know that's
going to be selling it to customers, picks up the phone,
calls their customers, says, hey, there's twenty five cent tariff.
You have to pay it when you sign a contract
with Traders International Traders, there's a cost in there. Says
that there's a tariff announced. You have to take that
material and pay the tariff. That tariff has to be
paid before that boat docks. Okay, so, okay, this.
Speaker 1: Is great, this is right, but what what there're four
almost five the tariff. The twenty five percent tariff is
paid by the country that's importing the good.
Speaker 5: It's paid by the customer that's importing these So.
Speaker 4: I'm buying metal from him, his medals on that boat.
Speaker 1: I got to pay him, right, But you're saying I
transfer it over to Hey man, we're not taking.
Speaker 4: Unless you pay that.
Speaker 5: The company that made the product isn't going to pay
that twenty five percent tariff. They're just going to pass
that on, right, So they say, we got to collect
that tariff, we got to pay it up front. And
they go to the people that sold their product for
them and say, hey, you're the ones we have product
and us both your customer spot from us. That's already,
that's automatic. That's you know, you'll get an email and
said and you might not be planning on that.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know, that's what I'm saying, And that's pirates.
Speaker 1: That's just that's the real quick So that's that's a
pretty significant hit. Like when we see things the tariffs
have been delayed a month, right, they're not supposed to start.
Speaker 4: Or kick in.
Speaker 1: So it gave it almost in a way, gave you
some warning. So if I'm manufactured something and I put
it on that boat and I'm selling it to you,
I would pass.
Speaker 4: And it takes you eight weeks to get to us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not going to put it on a boat
because your customer is going to say, hey, if it
takes eight weeks, I'm not going to take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Material, you can't buy a steel out of a steel mail.
They don't. They don't stock it right, they put enough
steel behind the line so when that comes off the line,
it goes on a truck within two or three days
and comes out they don't have they you know, you
Gov and I steel you cannot store outside right, if
it gets wet, it gets white rusted on it.
Speaker 1: So if we were just let's say it's clocks from
China or something, and all of a sudden, now there's
a twenty five percent tariff, and it happened when the
boats three hours out. As you said, who's got to
pay that tariff?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: Is the guy who's going to try to sell the
clocks in my store here. Yeah, yes, but you're.
Speaker 5: Saying, and you're gonna have twenty five percent to that
clock cock and put it on your shelf. Yes, And
so then therefore I see that's where I think people,
you're gonna balance your inventory. If you have a thousand
clocks in your building and you sell three hundred a
month and you've got five hundred clocks coming in, you're
gonna cost to average your inventory in three months, you're
gonna be charging that full twenty five percent. But you
have a replacement cost. Yes, you have to figure out
what your replacement cost is. I mean, you know, if
we experience a terraff you know, because of how we
do business and our inventories we carry, we will experience
a tariff and take material. Limbit we haven't you look
at your replacement costs by the time you're finished goods inventory.
How long's it gonna take for that material really to
start working it way into your manufacturing and your finished goods.
Where's it going to affect you? So you know, we
won't do And I had this conversation last night with
my siblings. We wouldn't as a company do if we
were experiencing terrafts right now, the cost of a terff
for paying tariff, we would not immediately pass that on
to our customers.
Speaker 1: Not immediately.
Speaker 5: That would probably take three months for us to pass on.
Speaker 1: Okay, because you've got enough supply that we have enough supply.
Speaker 5: I don't. We don't buy daily.
Speaker 1: We buy.
Speaker 5: We buy on a monthly basis, and you have a
certain amount coming in monthly.
Speaker 4: The terraffs so.
Speaker 1: Tariff goes into effect. We may not see the effect
on our bottom line for a couple for a month,
two months, three two months.
Speaker 5: It depends on what something does. How fast, you know,
if it's a commodity. How fast moving that material. I mean,
if it's a steel supply, you know, distributor who's buying
that material, he's going to pass that on pretty quick
to you.
Speaker 1: Let me go back because I'm kind of dumb. I
mean this when you said the tariff goes gets implemented
and the boat's three hours out and they got to
pay the terraff who has to Does that mean like
Walmart's got to pay the tariff before that?
Speaker 5: No, the trader does, the trader does whoever that is, well,
the company, the company will pay it. Yeah, they'll just
add it. They'll just add it. So let's say let's
say I'm selling you a truck over to steel. Yeah,
and I'm sending it down at the US and the
tariff doesn't go into effect till midnight tonight, you're up.
The office is closed at five o'clock, so your truck
has to sit there till we open back up at
eight am in the morning. I'm going to have to pay.
I have to pay that tariff, but I'm going to
send you a bill for the tariff. I'm going to
add twenty five percent of the invoice and send.
Speaker 7: It to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I get it back, so you know, the
company doesn't pay it, the consumer or whoever is buying
the product and turning it into the product is going
to pay tariff, and then eventually the consumer.
Speaker 4: Will yes, So it's a trickle down.
Speaker 5: But tariffs aren't done to hurt Well here's my, then
here's my it's the level of playing field. Is it
opening new markets and new areas that were being tariffed
to bring the product in? Well, I think if you
go back in the last two three weeks, even if
you go back to January where Trumpet announced he was
going to do terriffs because he wanted we couldn't get
penicillin antibiotics right from China during a pandemic. You couldn't
get it. We were running out of.
Speaker 3: Medication there, trying to kill us twice because.
Speaker 5: Your medication was made over there. So now you have pharmaceuticals.
I think merk was the most recent that announced they're
gonna they're going to invest seventeen billion dollars into manufacturing,
research and sourcing materials in the United States.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a way to say, hey, wasn't that
what Kodak was going to do? Under Trump? The first time,
I think, and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: They raised a sock price to forty two bucks, like
by thirty five dollars in one day, and I was
just kidding.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I think I thought that, Well I just came.
It was not supposed to be announced, and I think
it got out and that ruined it. I think they went,
we don't want to who can we trust.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know, when you look at a tariff,
take a picture of current tariff's going on. Yeah, you
want to spur investment in US. You want some of
that manufacturing to come back, so we're not relying so
much on the world to manufacture everything.
Speaker 1: So so then I would say that maybe in your
opinion and overall, like, the reality is, these terriffs are
going to achieve their attended purpose, which is to level
the playing field and not hurt American business, but actually
level the playing field so we're not getting undercut by
some other countries.
Speaker 5: It's going to bring good jobs back to the States. Yeah,
good paying, Yeah, you know, jobs you can get into
the middle class. You know, if you look, if you
look go back thirty years, what the steel industry was
in the United States and what it is today, it's
nowhere near what it was thirty years ago.
Speaker 4: No, it's not.
Speaker 5: They've we've closed plans due to foreign competition. But the
terrrist set, you know, everybody's looking at Mexico and Canada.
You and I had a conversation that they're putting in.
There's anti dumping and countervailing duty cases that were started
in September twenty four that the current administration had nothing
to do with, and it's against eight or nine countries,
and Mexico and Canada are on that list for dumping.
For dumping dumping. You know, mills want to run at
a certain capacity, so they're dump instead of closing the mill.
It's going to cost me two million dollars a day
to close the mill.
Speaker 4: So what so I lose two.
Speaker 5: Hundred thousand that they dumping materials down in the United States.
But I heard the US mills because now I'm taking
business it would normally.
Speaker 1: Go to yes.
Speaker 5: So you're your US steel workers getting decimated.
Speaker 1: Think of it as almost like a photo dump, right,
people get on and go all these photos from one thing.
Instead of closing the steel mill, I'm just gonna get
all this products go at a really low rate.
Speaker 5: And we'll put it in the US market, and it
hurts the US market and there's many Look, manufacturers take
advantage of it, sure, because of course I'm a builder.
Speaker 3: If you don't, If you don't, somebody else will.
Speaker 5: If we don't, our competition is going to it. It
hurts our facility. But again, we have our standards for quality,
or my family does. I can't speak to my competition.
It wouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Fair to.
Speaker 5: H We have a standard of material you know that
we'll use in a marketplace. In certain countries we won't
buy material from, you know, coming in here. I think uh.
I just looked at it with UH, our production manager
yesterday and our steel processing in turns we have used
eighty percent of the material that comes in our building
the last eight nine months is all domestic material, you know,
because we're trying to shift and support the domestic mills
at the same time. Right, So you know it's hard.
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard because it becomes it comes down
to dollars, dollars and cent dollars and cents. But you know,
and sense sometimes spelled not with the sea but with
an S. So what's gonna make the most sense? And
sense in the well, you know.
Speaker 5: Steel is you know, steel is a big thing. I've
seen it all over steel and aluminum. Yeah, you're seeing
it all over the last four or five ten days.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So the eight countries that we were talking about, the
counter vailiant anti dumping duties just alone is anywhere from
twenty percent on countervailing, although we up to fifty percent
on anti dumping, which means we're gonna punish you for your.
Speaker 1: Past right pass discretions, got.
Speaker 5: Which countervailing countervailing means they're going backwards, right, and they're
gonna charge you this much. You know, they're just gonna
attack countervailings. What they're gonna say is we're gonna have
to twenty percent in the future and then for anti
dumping to stop you from coming in and doing this again. Yeah,
we're gonna ad that. And you know this is all
on top of the twenty eighteen tariffs and anti dumping.
You know some countries were allowed. Okay, we'll charge you
with tariff after you hit this certain quota.
Speaker 1: Right, So what about here's something that and I don't
want to go too long on this, but because I
think I'm not sure where people's eyes start to glaze over.
But I think if is there a certain percentage of
a product, Let's say it's made overseas, but it's it's
got so much I don't know, screws from the US
holding it together.
Speaker 4: Like Honda in Indiana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there a less? Is there a percentage? I mean,
that's the stuff that's kind of funky too.
Speaker 5: They're figuring it out. Part of the reason that they've
done this with anti dumping and countervailing duties and steel
just steal alone. Coded products, let's call it coded products
is China couldn't afford to sell it here?
Speaker 1: Could you call it China the way he does China.
Speaker 5: They were selling steel to pick one of the eight countries,
and then one of those eight countries was coding.
Speaker 4: It and then saying it was made here.
Speaker 5: They're lying, well, the steel really really originates. So that's
why you see him say another ten percent here, another
ten percent here. They're trying to stop this bad behavior
out there. Okay, so you know you can manufacture, you
can bring it the same thing US mills do it.
They'll buy you know, col roll or hot roll and
then they will finish the processing here. Whether it's going
to be galvanized or aluminum coating on that material, right,
so I could get cold roll. You know they stamped
the US made in the United States of America, right
because you finished it here.
Speaker 4: He bought it partially.
Speaker 1: Do we have to be more honest?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: Would the US have to say finished here, originated in Russia? Yes?
Speaker 5: I think that's what the point of them doing. I
think that's what they want to do. Okay, they want
to say Okay, you know government contracts already state that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't think most people know things
like a product could be as you're saying, cold world,
hot road, and we're talking specifically about steel and then
finished here and get the US stamp on it.
Speaker 5: But it isn't really so when you put when you
assemble a car, it's like most.
Speaker 1: Americans, you're you're a certain percentage of different countries around
the world.
Speaker 5: Yes, so you know when you assemble a car, and
when there's assembly done here in the United States, for automotive,
they'll tell you eighty percent of the parts are foreign. Okay,
cars assembled in the United States?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Or parts are?
Speaker 5: They give you that percentage? They do? You know, you
look at the percentage on your invoice or your windowstick
around a vehicle, it tells you the percentage of parts
that were made in foreign and assembled in the United States,
but with foreign parts, and it gives you the percentage
of parts. I saw something interesting on TV. There was
a part that started a crank shaft to assemble them motor. Yeah,
started I want to say, in Pennsylvania, got shipped up
to it went to three US states, then went to
Canada for some processing, and then came back to the
United States. Or it went down to Mexico to be
installed in a car. So that part traveled. Wow, that far.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's crazy. Is that they can do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that they can send that part four different places
to be processed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and because it makes economic sense for whoever's the
guy in the price or however, you.
Speaker 5: Know what you know, maybe you know Canada has the
facilities to do that. We don't have the facilities down
here to do the finished process. Right.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 1: I find it interesting, But I also think that it
kind of gives a better perspective on what it is.
And it's really to level the playing field and hopefully
in the end bringing our economy back. And I think
you also said, since you mentioned that the US dollar
is kind of the currency that everything's based upon. It's
a standard of the world, standard of the world. There's
talk of lowering the value of the American dollar. That
wouldn't hurt. You'll hear that. See, we hear headlines, we
hear bits, right, So that sounds scary. It does sound scary,
but it's not going to affect our day to day life.
Speaker 5: Now, lower the value the US dollar to make you
more competitive, to make companies more competitive, do business overseas
because you have to pay the US dollars.
Speaker 1: Yes, and the brick, and now we've got to compete
against the brick potent work bricks.
Speaker 5: You know, if the US dollar is worth less than
you know, worth a little less, and it's instead of being,
you know, worth forty fifty more than a Canadian dollar
or call it two paces. I don't know what the
exchange rates are. Those were easily available by googling them.
And you lower your value of your US dollar ten
to fifteen percent, and those those dollars, you know, their
their money, doesn't All you're doing is bring yourself more
and more competitive. Yeah, it's a it's it's it's all
electronic today.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is all electronic.
Speaker 3: Do you think a lot of this is just negotiation? Like, like,
who's gonna blink first?
Speaker 5: I think it all is negotiation, Okay, because Trump loves negotiate.
Speaker 3: I'm not making this political. This is just what he does.
Speaker 5: It's not politically. He's going to negotiate. He's going to negotiate.
He's going to renegotiate the US m c A. I
think it was young man. Henegotiated NAFTA, and AFTA was
the worst thing for this country.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, and Wow went out of business because NAFTA,
Like immediately.
Speaker 5: Your textiles went out. Yeah, you had a lot of Hickey,
Freeman and Rochester, right, because a lot of seats were
made up and Canon then come back Cross down right, he.
Speaker 1: Didn't Hickey eventually go to Mexico.
Speaker 3: I thought there was some kind of Mexican freeman from Mexico.
Speaker 4: I thought there was.
Speaker 1: Something I might be speaking. I think I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: I think Chuck Schumer puts some type of deal to
keep keep him here, keep them here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's you know they did that. They were
big employer. Yeah, yes, for many years. Yeah, wow, that's
really interesting.
Speaker 5: But you know you can all this is, you know,
if you really want to look get away from the headlines.
Speaker 1: That's that's get read the story.
Speaker 5: We live in. Google into you know what, what is
a tariff and then dig down into you know you
can look at these deals.
Speaker 4: Well, we all learned about tariffs.
Speaker 5: You're learning pretty quick. Your dairy end us for your
shut out of Canada. You know, if you want to
sell milk in Canada, you're gonna pay three hundred and
ninety tariff and you got to put it in the bag.
Speaker 4: And yeah it's true, but I mean.
Speaker 3: Plus you got to put a picture on the milk cart.
Now that's an extra fifty cents.
Speaker 5: Just don't put caverns.
Speaker 1: No one would be calling because he's missing.
Speaker 3: They don't put him on the gallons.
Speaker 1: All right, well, uh we'll take a moment. Thank you
for all that. I appreciate you. I didn't know if
you were going to be on the computer. I didn't
realize you were coming all the way in.
Speaker 4: No, he doesn't listen to me.
Speaker 5: I told him, no, we leave tomorrow, or we leave
tomorrow for Washington, d c oh.
Speaker 4: Cool, starving starming, Just be careful.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's springtime down there is like nicer more.
My sister lives that way.
Speaker 5: So anytime you gets southeast and Dixon line, it's going
to be warm. Yeah, you know, at least warmer than
you're not going to get the two foot of snow.
I mean, I've seen a foot of snow April first here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know us mother.
Speaker 5: We're going down for hockey, so I'm going to be
spending quite a bit of time and freezing hockey rinks.
I'm not sure that rink has I don't drink. I
can't afford to anymore.
Speaker 4: We'll take a moment.
Speaker 1: A listener has emailed in with a question, and uh, Bill,
I was waiting for you to be on the on
the show to talk a little bit about Bob Rivers
because I can't remember the story. Okay, I can't remember this.
Bob Rivers passed away. He had gail cancer and he's
sixty eight years old and eight yeah, young guy, Uh
living in Vermont now and I think was yes, uh,
but Cindy a Ben and Jerry's slavor. I think he
was doing maple syrup.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well he used to do like.
Speaker 3: Honey. He used to be honey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, used to the day, the day that he like
his contract, the maple syrup bomb like you do the
flu bomb, the heart of the cancer.
Speaker 3: Look when he was a kz ok, his contract dead
and he goes, all right, for six months, it's gonna
make honey. Yeah, so he's he actually had a bee
hive at his house.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Interesting guy. Uh, we will get to
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Speaker 8: In his eyes, I'm full grown twenty nine stead a
god with the fridge.
Speaker 4: My face.
Speaker 9: Some little to space, live your free, don't bear it
brought the come back with them.
Speaker 3: The scene counting sheep saw I real scream.
Speaker 1: Asshole s.
Speaker 6: The bo.
Speaker 4: You trash it up is just the worst editing ever
a swear word.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what it is. I think
it's a glitch. I'm worried. I'm I get worried. The
things are happening over here that I uh, Bob Rivers,
that's one of his parodies. Uh Bob passed away. You'll
cancer eve earlier this well earlier this week. I think
it was two YESO, yeah, I think it's the day
before and uh yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: What's the story he how he became famous? No texted,
But remember that we were at he was giving a
presentation and there was a screen with a site where
you could how to text, and how this was with
your audience.
Speaker 1: This new technology for radio at the time, because coming in,
I got you.
Speaker 3: Okay, So here're still talking about you know, you got
Bob Rivers, which is like, you know, like three people
move from Howard Stern. So people are texting. And he
had a guy named Pedro on his show who would
write shows from Jaye leto so all these radio idiots
because that's what they do. Fool for Pedro, fool for Pedrol,
fool for Pedro. They kept texting the same thing, like
as if they had an original idea. And Bill goes
to because no, because Bill and then Bill goes, Jay
Leno had just like turned the Ty show over to
Conan O'Brien. Billy goes, yeah, that's yeah, Pedro's the reason
Jay's out of a job. The whole room starts cracking up.
Now Bob Rivers doesn't see this because.
Speaker 1: Back to the to the screen. But here's the worst
part of it. Yeah, his wife was sitting at our table.
Speaker 4: Yes, does it say Phil Morander? Did just have his number?
Speaker 3: Had his number?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And he turned around. But Bob had a good sense
of humor about it, because he knows he's in a
room with a bunch of radio.
Speaker 1: Jerks, you know.
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, Billy got like the biggest
eruption in the room until somebody else asked Bob a
stupid question. Then be Jay Shay walks up and then
starts yelling at the kid for asking Bob Rivers a
stupid question. Radio first, anyway, first, that was the first
By the way, that was the first day. That was
the first event. That Thursday, we had just flown in
into Nashville.
Speaker 4: And boy, were your arms tired.
Speaker 3: And to Timmy said the Brown, I don't even have
to try here. I was like shaving fishing a barrel
making fun of these douche bats.
Speaker 1: I was, But Bob was a very talented guy and
long time radio guy out but mostly in Seattle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he made his claim the fame in Baltimore, like
yeah in eighty eighty eight. The Baltimore Orioles went like
oh in twenty seven and when they were like oh
and nine, he said, I'm not going off the air.
He like locked the studio. I'm not going off the
air until the Orioles win a game. And he lost
his mind, didn't he like end up on drugs?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some probably twenty four before they finally
wanted Yeah, twenty four twenty seven, right, So it was bad,
but that was they were affiliated with the Red Wigs
at this point.
Speaker 3: They fired, Uh, they fired their manager, cal Ripkin senior
and probably Frank Robinson the manager and team. It was
bad and cal Ripken didn't miss the game.
Speaker 1: He is, uh, yeah he did. He did do all
that and uh retired and I think played keyboard for
Heart the band Heart. I think when the sisters got
in a fight, they each got their own band and
they went out as as Heart. Yeah, because some went
out heart ish, heart Ish, like I think and half heart.
Speaker 5: I think I think broken.
Speaker 3: Heart transpar broken. I think they did split for a while.
I know people who went to their shows and they.
Speaker 1: I think Nancy got the original guys and and got
like Bob Rivers.
Speaker 3: Yes, because nobody likes Ann. I think that was which
was the black haired one, the thicker one and okay, yeah,
nobody likes saying everybody loves Nancy. Nobody likes Anne.
Speaker 1: I interviewed Anne.
Speaker 3: She was always I know people who actually met the Wilsonshi,
they said, Nancy's very pleasant AND's always in.
Speaker 1: A mood because she knows you're judging her and talking
to like she's the fat sister.
Speaker 3: It could be. I mean, I think they're both attractive,
but in their own way.
Speaker 4: The original keyboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah for a band.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at this thing and I'm still standard Yeah
with heart because nobody else is.
Speaker 1: And then let me we'll sorry to hear that about Bob.
I am too because Spike taking it.
Speaker 3: I don't like O'Neil.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 3: He and Bob get into an argument on the air,
and that's how Spike became his co host in Baltimore. Yes,
he was U Life is just showing up.
Speaker 4: Man, have you reached out to Pedro?
Speaker 5: Was all right?
Speaker 1: I have not killed him in two thousand and three,
I don't well Pedro. Jay Leno had a Jay was great.
Jay was great to.
Speaker 5: See this to happen.
Speaker 3: You see this, Yeah, you happen to hear about this.
Speaker 4: Jay Leno is very oddly similar to your clik Clayvin.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: The the Jay just was kind of generous and he
would pay anybody seventy five bucks. I think it was
coming out of his money. I don't think it was NBC.
If you faxed in they have facts line, you could
faction and jokes. If they used the joke in the monologue,
they would pay you seventy five dollars.
Speaker 3: So I had I had a teacher at high school
named mister Privatetia. Mister Privatia would write the Carson and
you get fifty bucks. So I guess the price went
up after Yeah, yeah, get him to Carson because he
would fax on the Carson. Okay, in the eighties he
fact eighties they did, they did a whole article. We
didn't have a fax machine in the eighties late ladies.
Speaker 5: He would fax machine in a fifties. Yeah did they
government did? Oh, the government did, Yeah, the government did.
Speaker 3: He would use the school fax machine. He would send
him jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well that's how they were doing it. That's
how Bob, That's how Pedro did it. Right from Seattle.
He did that. H question came in via the website
Bill Moran Productions, Dot your Bill. It's no, here's a
question to bring up on your show that I've uh
that I have been wondering what others think. Now. The
funny thing is I had this same thought as this
guy because I saw a friend of the show and
every picture on their trip this was in it. Okay,
or a lot of it. At what age should a
grown man stop wearing a baseball hat backwards?
Speaker 5: Shouldn't even start?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, So I and the person said, I'd
be interested to see what your coach think, including Laura.
Now Laura's not here, but I will bring it up
with Laura. And I thought, Joe every time he's got
a hat on his backwards.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't see Joe every time with
it backwards. I see Joe with no hat. Maybe it's backwards,
but there's somebody else. I see every picture is the
backwards hat. They're dressed up, they're at places, and the
guys got a hat on backwards.
Speaker 4: Oh you said dressed up, So that eliminates me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's not you.
Speaker 4: You never wear No.
Speaker 1: The only time I'll wear my backwards hat is if
I'm standing on the glass at the hockey game. In
the game and I'm I'm into that, gets your way,
I turn it around when my head around. I did
it the other day.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to take it off.
Speaker 1: Well, now, I hadn't showered, and I went to the
gym and I was stretching and I do a child's
pose where you're down and the brim Yeah, well that
was close to Uh the brim in the head kept
hitting the floor, so I flipped it around.
Speaker 4: You can't get to the floor.
Speaker 5: Was pretty close. Where are you working out the why?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: I want to know? What were you going to say?
Speaker 4: Dunking donuts?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't see backwards. I go to Midtown, okay, and
you don't see him there. I don't see him at
the win and I see that. I go to the
wine in Pittsford. I don't see him a lot there either.
But this one person. And if I once, if you
guys think about someone associated with the podcast, they are
in almost every sure did they.
Speaker 4: Work on a video recently?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you got it. Yep. Every picture is a
half ack. And when I looked at it, I went,
that's it, and I thought, Okay, this is the kind
of hard hitting society society shaking debate that we need,
because it is. This is the stuff Tariff's. Yeah, we'll
talk about half better.
Speaker 3: A slap attack so bad. And anyway, wearing a backwards
hat New Era's gonna have to charge even more for
their hats.
Speaker 1: Here's how I would say. Wearing a half backwards is
like playing beer pong. Okay, you got you got a guy.
There's a grace period in life. There's a grace period
in life where you get to play beer pong. It's
completely acceptable. And then one day you look in the
mirror and you realize it's time to let go. And yeah,
I may have had that realization, not about beer pong,
but about drinking this morning. Oh no, I think I
might have an issue and I might have to cut
it back a little bit. Oh cutting back is you know,
there's nothing wrong with that what do you mean, I
might have an issue.
Speaker 5: I quit for three months.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were no funning Lake Placids this year.
Speaker 5: That was fun in my own mind.
Speaker 1: Kevin had more shots this past week and than they
were fired in the city of Rochester. Well I think backwards, yes, yes,
so saying wearing a ball cap. That's different.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I think it depends something happened
about ten years ago where hats became ridiculous. Like the
generation whatever, the next millennials or whatever ruined hats and
jeans and sneakers. So now if you want to buy
a cool pair of sneakers, they all look ridiculous. You
have to buy more casual shoes. If you want to
buy jeans, there's these skinny jeans. You can't look like
we're normal jeans anymore.
Speaker 4: You just got older.
Speaker 10: Wait a second, I'm talking it's a European cut, because no,
I'm talking super skinny, like like like where the point
where like denim tights, well, like your guts like hanging.
Speaker 4: Over leave yoga. Okay, it's a European cot. Okay.
Speaker 3: And then there's and then there's and then there's like
the hat thing and a lot of like I hate
having a poofy what they call high profile hat. So
if the hat I bought looks ridiculous on my head
because I don't want to try it out in the store,
or if I bought it online, if it looks kind
of silly, I'll wear it backwards. Now, if you're doing
it all the time, maybe that's just your look.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I know, but it kind of looks ridiculous.
At some point, I'm thinking, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Saying that's his look. I think the guy that we're
talking about, I think it pull it off.
Speaker 1: Okay, Look, I know chicks to dig the backward hat.
I understand that I would.
Speaker 3: I got a friend who was drafted by the Atlanta Braves,
so he was always wearing his hat forward in the game,
but out of the game he's wearing it backwards.
Speaker 1: Still wors Okay, yeah, but at forty five, you're still
rocking the clothes like you're waiting for mom to pick
you up from the skate park, and you got your
hat backwards. I think, do you understand what I'm saying, Richard,
He's start to look a little dumb. We need to talk.
Speaker 3: No, I understand, Yeah, I understand. That I wouldn't do
it in your back hervertise when I wore my hat
backwards on this show, because I'm like, oh my gosh,
the hat looks ridiculous. I got to turn it around.
That's the only time I've done it.
Speaker 1: I know. It's not the hat that looks ridiculous. I
haven't even noticed. And I wasn't bringing up for that.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll say it because no, no, no, no,
it's okay, keep it, keep it a mystery.
Speaker 1: Do you think so?
Speaker 3: Yes, I was gonna see because this guy does not
asking for trouble.
Speaker 4: He's a good dude.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking and I'm not looking to make trouble.
Speaker 3: I understand that. But like, you don't know how people interpret.
Speaker 1: Stuff were outside, but it stood. It stood out to me. Yeah,
I think athletes.
Speaker 3: But his look, yeah, I think that's his look. I
think he could pull it off. There's some people who
have a face for it and some people who can't
do it. You know, it's just the way. Kylie Cowhard
always had a rule, if you're wearing a hat on backwards,
I can't take you seriously, especially if you're a quarterback. Blah,
blah blah. I can understand from a professional standpoint you
not wearing the hat.
Speaker 1: But but if you're a dad who's just been adjusting
his new balanced sneakers and you stand up with your
hat backwards, your kids are judging you, and so are we.
Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know that.
Speaker 3: Your kids are judging you, like if you're if you
were like these kids, now were these boxy hats with
these flat brims. I was wearing one of these hats,
and my nephew goes, that's a dead hat, okay, Like yeah,
it is. My generation wore our hats down like this
and curve, Brent. We would put a baseball in our
in our brim and wrap it around with a belt
or sometimes sometimes a rubber band, and like naked with
a curved hat.
Speaker 4: There was just sitting. Nothing to do with silver Creeks manufacturer.
Speaker 3: You don't remember the l duquet look for the Yankees
and the petant look.
Speaker 1: He was fabricating his hat.
Speaker 4: But that's how we wore our hat.
Speaker 3: I can't wear a flat I can't wear a flat hat.
I don't care kids think of meat.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 3: My point is they're judging you no matter what.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. I think the backwards hat is
about a vibe more than anything. It's a vibe and
it just I will say, like I get it in
some things. Every picture they're on vacation, every picture was that,
and I was like that really stood out.
Speaker 3: Look this girl odd, he's got good hair. Yeah, I know,
I would just not wear the hat.
Speaker 4: There you go see was there? It was a seamkas possible.
Speaker 1: Okay, really try to help a guy out. I understand, No,
he's not. No, all right, we'll take a short little
break here because we went log in the first one about.
Speaker 3: Rivers Man that sucks.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I never wore a hat backwards.
Speaker 1: And he goes sixty eight thirty three years in there,
made a nice salary in radio, like a really nice salary.
Speaker 3: Had his own plane, the Bears was stolen.
Speaker 1: Does anybody remember the Barefoot Bandit the Bearfoot band. It
was the kid who stole He stole a plane and
like flew from Seattle maybe I don't know where it.
Speaker 3: Went, like sixteen, he was sixteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: It was this guy that we're talking about's plane that
got stolen.
Speaker 5: Okay, but that kid was good because he had no
lessons No, he've read he read online it bob an
Bob plent guy who stole the tractor from our body
shot ico.
Speaker 1: No, no, you go to YouTube.
Speaker 3: You can pretty much learn anything nowadays except how to
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Speaker 3: This is all okay? Yeah, I thought Chris Cordell was doing.
Speaker 1: Oh so free agency underway. We still don't know of
a home for Aaron Rodgers yet. I don't know if
anybody's too. I keep hearing that. Uh, Antonio Brown tweeted
out that it's a two year deal with the Steelers
for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: That he wants.
Speaker 1: No, that that he got it, he got it, confirmed
that it happened, and then uh, it was pointed out
that he did break other Steelers news in the past.
Ab okay, So I'm wondering, but we haven't heard anything. No,
so who knows if that's the case or not.
Speaker 3: But they must really hate Russell Wilson. They must really
hate everybody.
Speaker 4: That everybody God, I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 3: That is the greatest everybody must He's gonna end up
the Giants.
Speaker 4: He went in.
Speaker 3: They had they had Justin at the starter. They brought
in two quarterbacks. They sent Kenny Pickett pack and they
pumped out of him. So last year they brought the
pickets on another team. So they take out quarterback. Shure,
it's the Browns because well, let's be honest. And so
you got this kid, Judge Fields, who has now since
moved on to the Jets. And then you had Russell Wilson.
It was like, oh, you got to give Justin Fields
a chance. Oh man, he's he's four and two, oh man.
And then they bring in Russell Wilson. And Russell Wilson
was a better quarterback.
Speaker 1: Than he is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was six and one of them.
Speaker 3: He didn't do badly and he didn't really do badly
in the year before in Denver. The problem is Russell
Wilson is a diva in a pain in the neck.
And as much as the locker room really like you know,
back he backed, he.
Speaker 1: Had his own office and stuff like appointment.
Speaker 3: In Denver, you had to get an appointment if you
were his teammate, you had a book.
Speaker 1: Of call with an aviantment with them to see to
like hang out, like your.
Speaker 3: Guy took himself way too seriously. But then in front
of a camera he was like the biggest phone hand
in Pittsburgh. They're like, yeah, thanks for the memories, but
you're not gonna help us get any further along.
Speaker 1: Well, they haven't announced that he's not there, right.
Speaker 3: Well he's a free agent, yes, but David called him
home like if you really watch somebody, you're gonna make
the effort.
Speaker 1: I would think so, like the Bills did lock up
Hamlin for one more year.
Speaker 3: Yeah now now, now, now that was more of a
marketing song.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was all right, Hang on a second. Kevin
is a it was a good three years ago. A
fan of the of the New England Patriots. Who is
AFC East And I only bring that up because it
seems like there's an AFC East arms race going on
in this free agency. I saw some nice moves that
had to spend money. It's not like hockey where there's
that basement number you have to meet. But they had
the most cap space of all the teams. And you're
coming off of a ship season, you're blaming it on
the coach and you got a brand new coach in there.
You got a rookie quarterback that had you know, me
and Dandy to throw to. Last year, you got to
bring something. And they still have brought on a receiver
out of the mc collins brought.
Speaker 4: It back that college.
Speaker 1: Well they they did bring Mac Collins, who I didn't
hate with Buffalo, right, but he's the best receiver.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: But when he's making eight and a half millions, I
mean every player that New England's brought in from Buffalo
has basically turned into gold. Yes, you had Chris Hogan. Yeah,
all these players come in and they suck at Buffalo.
Smith I didn't think he wasn't bad.
Speaker 3: But he there was the other running back to in
the early in the early two thousands that he was
a role player for Cleveland was a running back. But
he was pretty good for them too. And I mean
they because they actually coached him up.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I mean things might be different with Rabel.
Speaker 5: We'll see.
Speaker 3: I don't think Mac Hollins, like for all the people
think they know they're in the know. When Mac Collins
signed back with the Patriots, like, oh, what the heck?
And he didn't sign for that much like two years
an eight million dollars so okay, So that's that's tells
me the Buffalo really what he Hey, Mac, thanks you
filled a great role, but we're not going to break
the bank up.
Speaker 1: They paid Josh Palmer twelve point.
Speaker 4: Six years younger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think. I still think they need another receiver.
I don't know if they're gonna bring back a Marie Cooper.
Has he signed with anybody?
Speaker 11: Na?
Speaker 4: Okay? So I mean the Cup just officially got released,
so he's out there.
Speaker 3: But the Bills aren't gonna go after Cooper Cup because
they area of Sekire. They're both slot receivers. Yeah, so
I mean, I I like the Palmer signing. A lot
of the radio guys west of Batavia hated it, right,
and then the film guys came out and said, oh no, no, no,
this kid's got it. He was underutilized in l A
and they think they found a diamond the rough. At
a decent price. He could get separation, which is something
Bills receivers typically other than Shakir, really haven't done. Matt
Collins was able to do it last year, and they're
hoping and they're hoping that cooked monster there Coleman could
do that and be that guy too thin, get a
bunch of guys who get separate. Sky's the limit?
Speaker 1: What about the Joey bosashigny?
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 3: Twelve dollars one year. You're gonna see now in the
NFL and Major League Baseball a lot more rentals, one
year rentals and he's four year's hat.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I love.
Speaker 3: They are though, right, I mean they are the He's
always hurt, like he missed twenty games the last three season?
Who did but Joey Bosa? Yes, he's always hurt. Yeah,
So here's my here's your here's your here's your.
Speaker 4: Problem, here's my question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Milana who are always hurting? Back there?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Nine years and Von.
Speaker 3: Miller technically is as old as he was, had better
numbers than Joey Bosa. So is the idea that they're
just going to rotate him like they usually.
Speaker 4: Do with everybody else?
Speaker 3: Or are they gonna play him more? Are they going
to play him less? At twelve million dollars, you basically
saved eight million off getting rid of Vaughan, so you're
paying him really just three and a half a four million.
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you, I don't think we've this
year's no we haven't talked. I haven't seen you.
Speaker 3: Oh no, we talked old talk Sunday, but that was
after Von.
Speaker 1: Right, Von? Do you still think I thought we talked
about him coming back. He could ask at the veteran minimum.
Speaker 3: He could they say that like he'd be insulted by that.
He might be more worth more like three million dollars.
Speaker 4: Okay, but that that that you're fine, okay?
Speaker 3: Or he could resign with Denver and in his career
there because he's a brock.
Speaker 1: Really he's going to do that?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's it depends on his mood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I guess okay.
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's I mean, he's gonna go on
their wall of fame if they have one. Von Miller.
He's a legend there. So I could I could see that.
I could see him coming back to Buffalo. I could
see them going after Leonard Floyd. Leonard Floyd outsacked the
Bills with the bills and without the bills, like he
had eight and a half nine sacks. Those sacks were
missing significantly last year when he left the team with
San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Oh what did he do?
Speaker 3: Oh he had eight and a half sacks?
Speaker 4: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Guy leaves and he continues to sack Thotal. Interesting. Now,
I don't know if he'll come back to Buffalo, but
like right now, their grasping gets spare parts. They've extended
their core guys at hometown discount. For Allen's only the
ninth highest paid annual quarterback in the NFL, which is
nine blowing. I mean, now he's gonna get all thirty three,
three hundred and thirty three million dollars in that cash,
the two fifty guarantees, fifty everything else.
Speaker 4: He's a quarterback should and saved that money.
Speaker 1: So many people man when that when that draft went down,
they I was.
Speaker 3: One of them, So mad, I was one of them.
Speaker 1: Josh out wrong, Josh, what about Sam Darnold's the best
quarterback was taken? No, but he would considered prior to
that he was. He was the best word.
Speaker 4: Why aren't we trading up to get him?
Speaker 3: I made the argument that the Browns are the first
and the third pick. I said, once't you take two quarterbacks?
There's no way you could screw that up.
Speaker 4: The Redskins did.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is a way. Let me ask you though,
And they're.
Speaker 4: Saying that Cleveland might not be done with quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They're saying that Kirk Cousins might still imagine they have
almost a half a billion dollars. Oh my god. Yeah,
what's the cap hit for Atlanta if he goes if
they trade him nothing? Oh do you think it would
be an out?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, that would be a huge
well because he's he had a hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you trade, they still busting your ass and
a family business.
Speaker 4: For how long you built it up? Built it up?
You got these guys got football or Bates, you got
a hundred million.
Speaker 3: You still halts backward, you still you're still keenies. You
still have you still have to they do on vacation.
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 3: When you sign a guarantee around them, you don't want
to be pictured with them.
Speaker 5: It's a stupid amount of money.
Speaker 4: It is. It's a it's a crazy amount it is there.
Speaker 3: Well, the point is, like when you when you guarantee
somebody their money, that money is due like upfront, like
right now, it's spread out over the cap over several years.
So the contract length is really just the amount of
years they have to put that money against the cap.
So Let's say I signed for one hundred million dollars
guaranteed twenty million dollar contract, but only one hundred million
dollars is guaranteed.
Speaker 1: You get that to five years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get that up front with a lot
of teams, or they'll split it up a little bit.
But the count, the count against the cap goes over. Yeah,
five years, five years, so they could. So that money
now has to be accounted for, already paid from Canada.
Speaker 5: So you don't even get that money. So both let
me correct this, correct me if I'm wrong. The money
gets paid up front. What if the guy goes out
in the field and gets her tomorrow morning, he does,
it's part.
Speaker 1: Of the guaranteed money. So what we're talking about that money,
guaranteed money. When you see, like Josh Allen gets two
hundred and fifty million guaranteed. So that money you're telling me,
that's going to be in his bank account before it depends.
Speaker 3: How they structure it. But but let's put it this way.
According to the salary cap rules, that money is now
due right now, and you can spread it out over
that length of time. But the point is that now
you are you are responsible for that money in your
cap right now?
Speaker 1: Oh, I got you?
Speaker 3: Does that make sense right? I don't think Terry's writing
checks going like happy Gilmore? All right, Josh, here's a
two hundred and fifty dollars fifty million dollars pay But.
Speaker 1: I got he requests getting too, so it would be
like the thirty million or what out?
Speaker 3: Okay, if I ever interviewed Josh, all my first question, Hey,
you ever asked them to pay you a happy Gillmore checks?
Because they probably would.
Speaker 1: What do you think the psychological toll is on players
getting caught having to relocate, learning a new system. It's
a high pressure deal. You got one year your bosa.
Granted it's twelve and a half million million if he
has my heart out for you. But I'm just saying like, eh,
maybe not.
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily right off the cost of the house.
Speaker 5: They have to take a hit on the house they're
living in, yes, and moving in another city and go
around all the bars and restaurants and pull their crap.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I tell Buried, it's football. You find the edge,
you find the hole, you make set.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's married, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know his story either. But I'm just thinking,
like Kirk Cousins is right, and there's a lot of
kids in that family went wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's got several kids. Well, his wife's from Atlanta,
and so it's kind.
Speaker 1: Of going, yeah, yeah, but he's got two hundred and
fifty million reasons to shut the hell up, dude.
Speaker 3: He's gotten more money for such a mediocre quarterback. It's ridiculous.
From his guaranteed years in Washington, yeah, to the big
contract he signed in Minnesota, to the contract but no,
he wasn't bad, but he was never gonna win a
super Bowl. He's only gonna take you so far. But
for Cleveland, man, you get a playoff game, they'll throw
a parade. They went over a sixteen man. They made
a circle, a parade circle around the stadium for zero.
Speaker 6: Now they had it.
Speaker 1: They had a quarterback, took him to the playoffs. They
sat in a freaking Tampa the one guy anything two quarterbacks.
One was Baker and the other one was Joe Flacco.
Joe was the big here.
Speaker 3: He stole themar Hamblin's Comeback Player of.
Speaker 4: The Year award.
Speaker 3: Well he just died and came back to life. But
he was a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He did a great job, though, you resurrect Cleveland. But
Flacco went back there and he made he may have
a playoff team. He did what he didn't replace Deshaun first,
did he?
Speaker 4: Yes, he did. He was right. DeShawn got hurt and
a way he was in right away.
Speaker 1: I thought they had some money in between.
Speaker 4: First they had a game or two and then they
brought Flacco off the couch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they had a game or two
with somebody else right right right, Dorian Williams or something like.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was it was just terrible. That guy was running
for his life.
Speaker 3: It was like, but Kevin Stefanski has won two Coach
of the Year awards, because man, if you can get
the Browns of the playoffs, it's like work a miracle.
It's like you're Saint Doug. Yeah, remember Doug Maroon st Doug.
Speaker 1: It'll be I've insrected Syracuse.
Speaker 3: I resurrected Lufflot Bills. They should make me a patriot
state that he gets that he takes off for New
York and doesn't get a job.
Speaker 1: I don't remember him saying that, but he said that,
I'm not going to deny it. If you say it.
It's like, here, we interviewed him, he was cool.
Speaker 6: Is that to us?
Speaker 4: You say it halfens correct?
Speaker 1: Well, I will say Danny's memory is like he's got
a memory, and my sister does the same thing.
Speaker 4: I don't remember anything like that stuff. I think I
black things out because it's because you were cool in
your teens.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's true, that's probably true.
Speaker 4: I don't think that.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't know that the Bills.
Speaker 3: I don't know the Bills are any better or any
worse right now than they were when the season ended
in Kansas City. I don't know. I'm kind of excited
about Bosa. I'm excited about Josh Palmer. But I think
the real issue is your head coach and your offensive
coordinator and your defensive coordinator, your schemes, your offense, your defense.
You got to figure that out.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: You had three thirty three left, three timeouts of two
minute warning, you're down three. You didn't have to run
a two minute offense. No, No, we gotta take James
Cook off the field. We gotta get that at s
Car and what happened. All they do is book the clocket,
score a touchdown.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 3: No no, we can't do that.
Speaker 4: That's all they had to do. There wasn't any other
planning involved in that at all.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't know, but the moment they pulled James
Cook off the field, they can mode, okay, send send
the defense. So what happened? Alid six plays seventeen yards,
eleven on a scramble and six on three on a
past the Kalil ship. I'm sorry, Curtis Samuel w he
tripped over his right tackle.
Speaker 4: NFL, that's got you.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 4: No, maybe you're not right. Maybe they have analytics.
Speaker 3: Can't drop the football on fourth down, number one.
Speaker 5: Draft pick, can't get out of the steam there we got, Wow,
there is the guy dropped it.
Speaker 3: But are you told second bar players out of the field?
What does that typically mean?
Speaker 1: We're going to two minute remote?
Speaker 3: And I asked Dad Brown from Channel and I go,
why didn't anybody ask McDermott about James Cook. He goes, well,
if you've been watching the entire season, he hasn't been
on the field late in games. I'm like, oh, so
he can't pass block, which means, hey, we're gonna pass
every single play. So they pinned their ears back and
they went after the bills. Don't need any more help.
They need a psychiatrist in that freaking room.
Speaker 4: Check your watch, I think it's going off.
Speaker 1: You're having an eight, all right, it's wound up sixty seven,
Its wound up, all right?
Speaker 3: Rong, And didn't look at the sabers. Man, they're awful.
Speaker 5: Well we yeah, I was waiting for him. Turns half backwards.
He pushed away from the table, turning red.
Speaker 3: H what'll we call Wednesday.
Speaker 4: We'll take a moment.
Speaker 3: But I like the post of signing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, go ahead, that's all right, good.
Speaker 4: They did a good job there.
Speaker 1: But scheme, yeah, I did read. I think in the
athletic or somewhere that they were telepathing what they were doing, right,
telegraphic telegraphing. I'm thinking telepathically is telepathic? Is that even
a word? Telepathic telegraphing?
Speaker 3: But telepath that's such your one friend from like the
one lady that comes that she was telepathic, plays to Spagnolo.
Speaker 1: Kevin has a game, right, I do closest to the
pen name that we'll play that. But I also want
to tell you about this Miami bound American Airlines flight
and what happened to.
Speaker 3: Us another flight?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this problem flight.
Speaker 1: And it involves religion, and I just thought it. Just
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say a well deserved Grammy for the rock album of
the Year in my opinion, but I.
Speaker 4: Don't know more. They against the Black.
Speaker 1: Crows had an album out.
Speaker 3: I think they're against Pearl Jam two and the Beatles.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the Beatles were in that category
or not. I don't know if they did get in there.
They weren't like pop or something, but I would I'll
tell you briefly about this because I was gonna save
it till tomorrow because I have to take out an
emergency call in when we were taking a moment. The
intersection of mental health and religious belief. That's where we're
hanging out right at the corner of happy and healthy.
A Miami bound American Airline flight had to turn back
to the gate because a passenger believed he was I
guess he was boxing with the devil in a row twelve.
I'm not sure, in an attempt to protect himself, swallowed
rosary beads and violently click kicked a flight attendant across
the oiscle.
Speaker 4: But he was having like a psychotic break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did say that he's got, you know, some
kind of I'm not sure. No, I don't know. I mean,
might have had a demon, might have been possessed.
Speaker 4: I'm not I don't could be the sea oils, could
be seven or eight peers at the bar and the horse.
Speaker 3: But you go forever, chemicals coming different, I means.
Speaker 4: Thirty thousand feet.
Speaker 1: You know, they charged American Airlines to start charging for exorcism,
but bags fly free, but fifty dollars for they should
just have extra parachutes on there and find a way
push off the plane so you just keep going.
Speaker 4: That would be great because it screws everybody. You gotta
stop here. Where are we? I don't know Kansas? Kevin's
got a Kansas feed first, Kevin's old grandma? Is this
theme that tune closest to the pin?
Speaker 1: Oh? I wasn't sure. Okay, theme that tune closest to
the pin? And uh, Richard's gonna play?
Speaker 5: So how does it work?
Speaker 1: One point for title, one point for artists. You put
down a year, we reveal the years the one song
was released. Yeah, and that's your closest to the pen. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But you can get points off for the title and
artists you have one point.
Speaker 6: Why is it?
Speaker 4: Hevin Helman are the only two that can.
Speaker 1: Somebody somebody else? They're playing. They love playing this game,
but they the scoring was confusing for I.
Speaker 4: Said the first time we played, we had to figure
out the scoring, and you're like, no, it's good. I
thought it was all right because you would probably.
Speaker 1: I don't always win often. I don't all right, here
we go, I gotta get the gates.
Speaker 12: Job.
Speaker 4: If you don't know the title of the artist, just
put down a year. What there was his key.
Speaker 7: Going into La We don't say Trumpton coming a crop
the school, Well button with any pay key back else.
Speaker 6: Nobody hurts nobody, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 5: I got nothing.
Speaker 4: Let's put down some bears get into the game. Have
long shoes.
Speaker 3: Wow, I have to take a song with sim.
Speaker 1: Didn't know your dad?
Speaker 7: Oh man?
Speaker 11: I did?
Speaker 8: Then it's.
Speaker 7: Said this song.
Speaker 3: Will I hear your s.
Speaker 9: One?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: My wife hates a song. Really, I can't figure out why.
Speaker 5: We used to do it.
Speaker 1: That's why you ruined it for her.
Speaker 3: That we I never did from her.
Speaker 4: Excellent when you can do with her.
Speaker 1: I think I think Danny's gonna crush this. I'm missing
some titles here.
Speaker 4: This is literally the album cover that pops up is
literally the worst picture of his birth I've ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 1: You know who?
Speaker 3: It's a will.
Speaker 4: You danced? This is your wedding. Stopped making face over there, Richard, No.
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 9: Josie's on a vacation followed come around and talking.
Speaker 3: So then anythings that about the thing. You know my girls,
a little maid.
Speaker 4: I just wanted you shall love tonight?
Speaker 3: I the one Lousha love tonight.
Speaker 4: God damn it. Even the eighties girl, you said you
own the eighties too. You know I can't stopping a
couple of times too.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, out, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 12: It's hidden, far away, but some day I may till
Oh wait, no, the tailor metal tangle into your world.
Speaker 1: That film without you.
Speaker 3: Now I want to saka secretly afraid. But in your
crass the fis don't last, though.
Speaker 1: Some of them have stay.
Speaker 4: Going back to the top, crash test Dummies, it is
crash test dummy.
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 4: I am not coming up with the title.
Speaker 1: And it's nineteen ninety four, I said, nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: Oh, Danny, nice jobs.
Speaker 4: That close enough, that's all right.
Speaker 3: Oh wit so that it was on the Dumb and
Dumber soundtrack.
Speaker 4: This is Kim Mitchell go for soda. It is Kim
Mitchell go.
Speaker 1: I said nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3: I said, it's seventy nine, nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1: Ooh, so I'm even then. All right, So this I
knew was Van Hallen. I don't know the song Hagar Billy.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 1: And so when Danny said that, I had already written
down ninety six it maybe eighty s I wrote ninety five.
Speaker 4: I think it was ninety six. It is nineteen ninety
five What Love Can Do from Man Halen.
Speaker 3: Do I get the extra point form being in the whole?
Speaker 1: No, you get ten ten off, so you're like minus whatever.
I'm three over smooth Santana and Richard Anything.
Speaker 3: I had to goodness Santana with Rob Thomas.
Speaker 4: Well under Santa song.
Speaker 1: Okay Rob Rob, it was Santana's out. You're right. It
was a bunch of different artist nineteen ninety nine, I
said two thousand and one.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say probably two thousand three.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine, Wow, another one ten off, it's twenty off.
All right, I'm down. I think I'm too over.
Speaker 3: This is Chris Isaac.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't come up with the title Wicked Game.
That's right, ninety one, I said, nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty nine, Oh it was eighty nine. Wow.
Speaker 3: Really, so wait a minute, because the video came out
in like ninety one. I remember watching it in the nineties. Specifically,
nothing came out.
Speaker 4: I had the video would come out ninety one.
Speaker 1: I'm ten over.
Speaker 3: You look like a Calvin Klin.
Speaker 4: I got the album color for this one. This is
Joe Cocker.
Speaker 1: God damn, I would have never got.
Speaker 3: This seventy nine.
Speaker 11: This was Jim Blucy doing yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes certain gentlemen, officer and gentleman, I said eighty four,
Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warren.
Speaker 4: Yes, from nineteen hundred and eighty two.
Speaker 1: It was too off on that one, three off there,
so excuse me, oh no, no, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I'm twelve. It's because I didn't get out.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who this next one was, and I
don't even think I had the title.
Speaker 3: Rick Springfield interviewed?
Speaker 4: Is it Rick?
Speaker 3: You interviewed this guy Rick.
Speaker 4: Springs the outfield?
Speaker 3: It's the alfa Field outfield.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh I knew it wasn't Rick Springfield. That's why
I didn't write it down.
Speaker 1: I deserve a point for I want to lose your love.
I put use your love. It's your love there love
all right, Well from nineteen you've got your love in
the title. You get a twenty six, I.
Speaker 4: Said eighty four.
Speaker 3: I said eighty one, So I was too one. Saw
him at wheel yea last, but not least a fish
free nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: Great job is fish It is not free, and it's
not nineteen ninety six. I had told the wet sprocket
I don't know two thousand and four it.
Speaker 4: Is fish sample in the jar from nineteen ninety four. Oh,
so I was ten off there, so that puts me
in twenty three total.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I got total these nineteen two four, six,
eight nine, no matter, you won ten so yeah, ten
points for the theme that tune, but I don't know
the theme.
Speaker 1: And then there's no theme. Oh okay, Oh sometimes there is,
if I feel ninety.
Speaker 3: Six eight minus eleven minus seven, sixteen senteen plus minus
twenty so I got plus four for those. Yeah, I
kicked dreads.
Speaker 4: The man just works out that way, dread.
Speaker 1: So it posted your head right into the term Richard.
It was a pleasure having me in here tonight. Thank you,
and I really enjoyed the not just the laugh. Tariff tariff, Well,
the tariff talk I think is important and I think
it'll explained, hopefully it'd explain tears of two Kevin another
breach talk, tariffs, no big one. Danny kicked my ass
in the game once again. And uh, I'm Bill Moran
and we will see you tomorrow.