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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. It is Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's time for another edition of Championship Week Full Court Press.

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I'm Adam Trigger, that's Rob Vino, and we're gonna start

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the show like we always started with recap of the

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day before.

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Speaker 1: Rob.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, it's much easier to start the

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show when you have a good day. And I had

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a good day yesterday three and oh for me du Caine,

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easy winner, oh Miss, easy winner, and then Arkansas Pine

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Bluff fought right till the end, loses by three covers

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the five and a half. So I had a nice

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three and oh day, and that follows a two and

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oh day on Wednesday. I bring a nice little five

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and oh run into Friday. I did ruin the show

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parlay with Middle Tennessee State, but we got the other

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two Miami and then your Fullerton team total over just

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finished a couple of minutes ago. I think, or you know,

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I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't make it to the end of that one.

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I did fall asleep. But how did your Thursday go?

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Obviously a great call on Fullerton there. How was the

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rest of your gay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm probably wrecking the little rest you can get

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by texting at two am about coaching changes. Yeah, so hey, hey,

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listen for those who have purchased double the CBB firepower.

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You just heard Adams day, I did what we called

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in a business, grinded out a plus two unit day.

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So you made cash again on both And so as

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we hit this tournament time, I'll just hit it right

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off the top at them with double the CBB firepower,

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I think, correct me if I'm wrong. I think the

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full package all the way through the National Championship game

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I'm not sure when they started that offer, but the

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sooner you get in, the more games you get for sure.

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And of course the three day weekend and today, tomorrow

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and Sunday. If you choose a three day direction, which

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I think goes for fifty nine books, but double the

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CBB firepower, You're going to see me and Adam here today.

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You'll see us tomorrow with Kelly. You'll see us on

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Sunday on Selection Sunday. Just making some cash on this

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on this package, we'll go ahead and purchase and let's

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get into today real quick. I will say Adam and yeah,

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Casey Alexander. I mean, I just remembered you. It's it's

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late in the early in the morning, and I see

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that I must have missed it earlier, but I see

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that he went to Kansas State, and I thought right away,

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I thought that's where Adam was when the guy told

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him Casey Alexander's the best talent evaluator in the nation.

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But then I remembered it was probably Saint Louis where

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you heard that.

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Speaker 2: I've been texting with Kelly Stewart for the last hour

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trying to convince her that this is a good hire

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for Kansas State, which I really think it is. And

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I just think, Rob, I think there's enough of a

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sample size now if you're if you're a power conference

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school that needs to that needs to get back to prominence,

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not hire the assistant coach. Just stop stop hiring assistant coaches.

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Go hire a coach that has won in Division one

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at a lower level. It seems to just work out

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better than like giving the keys to the kingdom to

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like an assistant who doesn't have that head coaching experience.

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I'm sure there's there's scenarios scenarios of that working out,

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but like the x NBA guy or the assistant coach

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that they don't win it, in my opinion, at the

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same rate as a guy that's that's been a head

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coach at a lower level for a while. And I

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think there's just like a lot of you know again

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that that's that's that's a topic for a different show,

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but I did. I am optimistic for Kelly and her

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Kansas State Wild. Yes, that that is a good hire.

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Speaker 1: Rob.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get into Before we get into the

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feature game, I just want to say that the if

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our page. All right, let's start it off. Let's head

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to the Big twelve. Kelly Stewart's Big twelve. Her team's

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not in it anymore, but her rival still is. The

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team she doesn't like is still in there, and that's

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Kansas getting ready to take on Houston.

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Speaker 1: Rob.

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Speaker 2: I find myself fighting my number a little bit here

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because I made Houston well, I made them initially made

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them a favorite big enough to suggest that that might

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be the right side, or to suggest that there might

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be some value on laying the five and a half

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with Houston in this game. And I found myself giving

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Kansas more points for home court than I maybe normally would,

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just so I didn't have to play Houston. If that

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sounds people are like, what does that even mean? And

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here's what I mean by that. I mean, the numbers

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are telling me one thing, but Houston really hasn't passed

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the eye test for me of late Rob.

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Speaker 1: And then I pull it up and it's like, hey,

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well there's still there's still a.

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Speaker 2: Top twenty offensive efficiency team, there's still a top ten

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defensive efficiency team.

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Speaker 1: But I just I can't quite put my finger on it.

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Speaker 2: This Houston team, in my opinion, just doesn't have what

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like last year's team that made it to the final did,

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or some of the ones that have made deep runs

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in the past. But Kansas has been a really difficult

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handicap all year because of Darren Peterson and know and

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try and e gauge what you're gonna get from him.

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So for me, this game is a difficult handicap. But

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I find myself like my head telling me Kansas, my

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numbers are telling me Houston, So I need Rob Veno

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to tell me what to do because I have no

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clue what to do with this game.

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Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't agree more where Houston is concerned, Adam,

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And even last night, as I'm doing box score work,

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as these game results come in and in and in,

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and I'm thinking, man, Houston, they just they had a

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tough time with that BYU offense. Then I look and

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Aj Debans that didn't really go crazy four of thirty

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from two point range. The BYU team statistics don't look good.

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They look like something you would put up against Houston

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if you're an above average offensive team. Don't even average

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one point per possession last night. So all the metrics

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look great, And then you watch them, just like you

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said with iests, then you watch them and you think,

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why are they struggling so much on defense? Why are

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they struggling to get these separation. I mean there's been

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occasions this year, believing just a couple of games ago

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where they went off on Colorado and Tad Boyle and

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put up fifty five first half points. I think they

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were coming off a three game losing streak at that point.

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quality competition of the Big twelve this year. One of

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those three game three games in the three game losing

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streak was ad Allen field House against Kansas. They just

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couldn't hang in that game, lose sixty nine to fifty six.

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So Houston, you're constantly laying the price at him. Constantly

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with Houston. You never get a bar. You never look

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at the line and say, man, that's a good price

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on Houston. You just think that's a huge number. Again,

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But situation calls for me to play them, So you

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continue to play them and continue. Like I was saying earlier,

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and like you were saying, too, come up a little short, Adam.

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Last night Kansas was down first half. Darren Peterson complete takeover.

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I think it was twenty three sixteen TCU next time

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I looked up. After a few Peterson makes and free throws,

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twenty eight twenty three Kansas twelve, nothing run, like he

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could take over a game whenever he wants. The question

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always with against Houston is can you do enough work

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on the boards, can you survive the turnovers that they

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try to create? And if you can, you can make

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shots against these guys. I don't know. I find it

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very difficult to lay anything in this price range with Houston.

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Right now, totalists come way down one thirty seven and

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a half down to one thirty four and a half.

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I tried to compare Kansas's offense to BYU's offense, because

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you get debansta and Rob Wright, and here you get

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Peterson and Counsel Junior. They're kind of the same, and

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BYU looked pretty good and Kansas has extra parts where

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BYU is shorthanded. I don't know, Adam. They changed this

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floor from glass to woods, so you don't have to

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talk about the glass floor anymore. There was a lot

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of complaints about the led glass floor, so I guess

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we're going to see all wood today hardwood floor. I

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don't know that that makes a difference, but I would

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agree with the line move here. I would agree Kansas

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plus six to me. They won sixty nine to fifty

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six the first time around. There's some revenge here for Houston,

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but I don't know that revenge and the fact that

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it was a road venue for Houston speaks loudly enough

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for me to lay this number with Houston.

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Speaker 2: Rob, do you know how bad that floor or had

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to be for them to change it in mid tournament

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like that that they couldn't even be they couldn't even

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be like, hey, all right, we hear you, We'll go

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back to it next year. Like it must have been

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so bad for them to have to change at mid

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tourny that that's not really an actionable item, but just

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something that that popped into my head, you know. I

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think that is what puts me off a little bit

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when it comes to Houston is even though they have

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this nice you know, you pull up ten palm, they're

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still right there at six then defensive rating. I wonder

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how much of their defensive rating has to do with

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limiting the number of possessions in a game, right, because

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Houston still plays very, very deliberate and slow.

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Speaker 1: They literally the one thing they do extremely well, they

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will not turn it over.

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Speaker 2: They turn it over as little as any team in

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the country, And so I just wonder if, like, but

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when you actually watch them play deepense this year, it

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looks different to me that the shots aren't contested at

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as high of a rate, and they just in my opinion,

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they've appeared easier to score on even though they still

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had that like nice defensive rating when you pull up

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the metrics. So I do think Peterson is the key,

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and I think that's why it's made it very difficult

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to bet Kansas games this year because you just you know,

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are you gonna get the guy? I mean, listen, the

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last few games he's played, he's been out there for

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thirty plus minutes. If I knew you were, you got

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thirty seven from him last night. He didn't have an

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overly efficient game five or seventeen from the field, but

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lived at the free throw line, grabbed eight boards and

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certainly made a difference in that game. If I knew

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I was gonna get thirty minutes for Darren Peterson, I

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think I think I'd take Kansas plus five and a

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half here. But like you just never know, I don't

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know where are you at on him? And do you

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feel like he's in this for the long haul at

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this point, now that it's the end of the season tournament,

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conference tournament, and of course the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 1: I expect him to be a full go as long

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as he is healthy.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Bill South and Kansas have been guilty

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of not putting like a ton of stock into this

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tournament in past years, So that's where I'm having a

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little bit of a hang up, but just from what

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I've been watching, I think I'd rather have Kansas plus

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the points than Houston have to cover a number in

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Kansas City, I guess on the wood floor, Rob.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we're Peterson's concerned. These are the

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games that NBA scouts want to see. If you're Darren Peterson,

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these are the games you have to play, you have

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to perform in. It's going to be such a race

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for the number one selection overall that you want to

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especially against a defense like this, You want to show up. Now.

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Is it that easy? It's not. I'll add one more

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thing here, Adam, really quick while it's still in my head.

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These seasonal overall statistical numbers, metrics, advanced metrics, whatever. We

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talk about this a lot. Houston's really really nice looking

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numbers when you go through their schedule, probably are built

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heavily on bullying lesser teams, because when it comes to

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playing these good teams, it's just not you know, I'd

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love to see the metrics against the good teams and

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not just everybody lumped in together, because it hasn't been

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the thing they're relying on. The three point shot a

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little bit this season, or at least they like to shoot.

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They have more guys who like to shoot it from three.

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In the first game against Kansas, they were five for

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twenty four. They can't have that tonight and succeed. They

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would beat on the free throw line eighteen to nine

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minus nine points there. So I don't know. If Houston

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came out and won this game by ten, Adam, I

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wouldn't be surprised, But they make it very, very difficult

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for me to go ahead in life five and a

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half six with them.

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Speaker 2: Rob, I'm gonna wrap this up with a pick and

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then I'll let you just quickly agree or disagree because

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something you kind of have just said gave me a

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what I think is like a better way to look

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at this game Kansas right now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just referencing.

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Speaker 2: Ken palm as a a way to sort of I

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feel like that's like the easiest way to reference like

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where the market is on a certain team outside of

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the top fifty in offensive efficiency. But if you were

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to put if you put Darren Peterson on the floor

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for thirty plus minutes, like to me that that number

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would be a lot higher. I talked about Houston, thinking

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that it's the defensive side of the ball that's that's

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making me think that they're a little bit of a

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I think I've gone as far as to call them

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fraudulent at points in the year, at least relative to

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where the market has them and where they're ranked. So

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I think this one goes over because I think you

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have Kansas. They obviously are going to be, you know,

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have a better time putting the ball in the basket

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if they're getting thirty plus minutes from Peterson. And I'm

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just not fully I'm just not fully sold on the

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Houston defense. So I thought at a quick glance, I

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saw the board starting to light up a little bit.

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Thought that over number was a little low. So that's

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that's what I'm gonna settle on as a pick for

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this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would just analyze that really quickly. First time around,

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they score one twenty five combined tonight, we need done

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it to one thirty five, ten points extra. If you

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want to go through the situation of the first meeting

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for Houston, it was the third game of that three

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game grinder in the Big Twelve. They had played Iowa State,

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they had played Arizona just two days prior to I

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had one day's rest and I had to come back

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and go to Allen Field House and play Kansas. So

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I mean by that time, maybe Houston's offense was a

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little bit fatigued after having gone through the Iowa State

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in Arizona defenses. So you know, you could say, yeah,

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Houston probably could get more than fifty six tonight considering

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those circumstances. I would agree with that totally. And KU,

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when Peterson's on the floor, they can say, just like

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I just said about houston defensive statistics overall on the season,

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the KU, as you just pointed out, their offensive numbers

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for the entire season are far different than what they

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are when you only include Darren Peterson. So I could

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agree with that. Adam. It's obviously a game where these

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two teams may live at the foul line two. I

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could see this game is going to get a little

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bit handsy. I would think, I'm both.

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Speaker 2: Staff all right, So we got you a side of

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total on that game, and we got it done by

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the fifteen minute mark.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect.

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Speaker 2: That's right where we want to be after the feature,

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and now we head to a different game. Let's go

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early this is one of the early tips today. Garth appreciate,

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appreciate the donation. As always, Garth says, another one in

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one day yesterday, seventeen and eight last twenty five.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad. It's a pretty good run for the

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last twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure he's posted every single one of

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those plays in here, so I can vouch for that

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being a legitimate record right there. See, he says, today's

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looking at Louisiana Tech team total over sixty seven and

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a half. I was talking about this particular game with

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my buddy, Aaron Kid, who's very tuned in basketball handicapper,

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and he kind of said, you know, uh, the anytime

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this is like I don't know if this is like

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a well known thing, it probably is, but any anytime

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a team like a Missouri State starts to play, over

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his head, he compares it to Jeremy Lynn and the

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and the run. He went on just being like so

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obnoxious and like it's got to stop.

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Speaker 1: At some point.

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Speaker 2: And so he told me that the uh insanity, uh

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miss Missouri State run ends today, and I don't know,

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I pushed back on that a little bit, rob because

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I kind of love how Missouri State has played.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a very tricky uh.

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Speaker 2: Prep, because you got Michael Osabonsu is just a you

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know what's he three hundred pounds. I think he's listed

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at two eighty. He's probably heavier than that. Throws his

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weight around, but he's also a good passer, gets read

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like you know, yesterday my god lived at the free

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throw line. Liberty couldn't figure him out and they and

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they win that game. So I don't know Missouri State.

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I don't know if I trust this Louisiana Tech team,

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who I was very surprised one yesterday. Obviously, as I

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said when I came on the show, Middle Tennessee ruined

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the parlay. That's because they lost to Louisiana Tech. So

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Garth's looking total. I'm not dying to fade Missouri State,

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but we're gonna talk total for Garth here. Team total

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Louisiana Tech over sixty seven and a half. Do you

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think they score points against Missouri State today?

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Speaker 3: You know what, that would be difficult for me to play.

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It really would give you two reasons why A. Louisiana

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Tech's offense has been middling all season long, and yesterday

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they had a performance for the Ages. Honestly, eighty points

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against MTSU in that game, and aj Bates goes crazy.

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He plays all forty minutes, ten of thirteen from the field,

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twenty nine points. But here's what I've written in my

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box score notes from last night. Louisiana Tech scored eighty

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points on seventy seven total shots, two pointers, three pointers,

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and free throws. They only took seventy seven shots. They

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scored eighty points. That's really good. They scored eighty points

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of a potential one to fifty one. In other words,

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if every single thing they put up last night, if

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all seventy seven two pointers, three pointers, free throws they

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all went through the basket, LA Tech would have scored

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one to fifty one. That's not a huge number. It's

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not a ton of shots. They scored eighty points off

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of that, better than fifty percent, largely better than fifty percent.

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And that's just not the offense that Louisiana Tech is now.

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Combine that with Quanzo Martin on the other side, and

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we all know Quanzo Martin's history as a head coach,

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we know what he likes to do. I could see

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this game just turning into an absolute slug fest, although

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surprisingly enough, out of Quanzo Martin this year ATAM, I

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think Missouri State had the third fastest tempo inside this league.

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But you have to put that into context too, because

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this is a slow footed league Conference USA. Their third

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ranking in CUSA might be like eight in the Big West,

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you know what I mean. It's just not a tempo

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driven league, so the ranking looks higher than the tempo.

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I think Kwonzo tries to put a squash on this game.

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As far as pace is concerned. I think Louisiana Tech

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probably comes back to there's a little regression here off

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of what was a tremendous night last night. Like I say,

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aj Bates ten of thirteen from the free throw line

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lived there last night, twenty nine points. I don't know.

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It would be difficult for me to see a lot,

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or at least to bet not to see it, because

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of course you could. It could happen and you wouldn't

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be all that surprised, But it would be hard for

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me to bet over sixty seven and a half. That

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being said, Garth has his record posted right there, guy,

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so he has a play on it, and I don't

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so if you're gonna listen to somebody. He might be

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the right way to go here tail on with Garth,

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but I would have a hard time betting it myself

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for those reasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, my number again kind of comes

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out pretty close to what the number is. I was

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a little bit surprised that this line wasn't bigger, and

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I just like I thought Louisiana Tech was gonna get

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some respect after that win yesterday, and just because they

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seem they've been in the mix more in this league

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in recent years, whereas Missouri State comes into this league

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for the first time this year and comes off of

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a stretch in.

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Speaker 1: The Valley where they weren't like that great.

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Speaker 2: So in my head, I said, oh wow, you know

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Missouri State, louis You know, once Louisiana Tech won that game,

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I was like, man, are they gonna are they gonna

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give me like a plus three here where I can

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bet Missouri State And they never really did. It looks

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like it kind of opened at one and a half

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back now to one. I kind of wouldn't be that

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big that surprise that Missouri State took some money and

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went off like minus one. But for me, ultimately just

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then the number wasn't playable enough. But that being said,

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like I I loved what I've seen down the stretch

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and to start this tournament out of Missouri State, and

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I do kind of think that, Like I'm with you, Rob,

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I think they can maybe dictate a little bit, and

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if Louisiana TACH can't sort of keep their form from yesterday,

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I kind of think they're the lesser of the two

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teams here. I know that's like, you know, I don't

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think that's like that's like a super popular opinion. I

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feel like most people would be would show value on

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Louisiana Tech in this spot, but my numbers do not.

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They show it should be like a pick. So at

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plus one and a half, I guess the tiny value.

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I really was hoping for more like a plus three

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and a half or you know, a plus three and

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a half or three.

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Speaker 1: I would get involved with Missouri State at that number.

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Speaker 2: At the current number, I'll probably stay off, but I'm

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not counting the Bears out.

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Speaker 1: I think the run could continue today.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: The further I look into this, Adam and I can

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understand the downward movement in the total because Missouri State

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actually had a really an abnormal performance against Liberty. Like

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against Liberty, you're not supposed to be able to score

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seventy seven because of the way Liberty plays and because

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of you know, there's some deficiencies on this Missouri State offense.

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But they did play a really good game with a

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shot fifty percent from three if both teams and LA

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Tech doesn't want to play fast either, so it's not

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going to be that difficult for Kwanzo Martin to slow

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this game down. It'd probably be slowed down more by

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the other side. I don't know. It seems like a

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difficult game for or aside for me to play l

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Tech team total over. You said something that I was

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It was killing me to not be able to think.

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You said three hundred pounder he could pass, and I'm

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associating it with Louisiana Tech and it was Kenneth Lofton, right.

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Wasn't Kenneth Lofton a couple of years before LA Tech,

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who was an absolute offensive stud just came back to

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my memory here and real fast. Before we move on,

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this is another thing that we talk about repeatedly. Sit

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there and give a pick. I'm Ku Houston possibly going

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over boom screen lights up. Game moves up from one

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thirty four and a half to one thirty six in most.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean bet MGM just flipped this to Missouri

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State minus one, so like two seconds ago, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a listen again.

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Speaker 2: I think I said it yesterday, not trying to talk

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garth'spin on a heater, so I'm not trying to talk

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you off of that. I was more intrigued by the

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side and unfortunately just not going to get the number

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to play that one.

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Speaker 1: So we'll move on.

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Speaker 2: Let's uh, all right, So we hit two of three

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yesterday in the parlay and I have invited so people

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in the chat are asking for Bayou's picks, and so

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I texted.

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Speaker 1: Him just down.

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Speaker 2: I said, are you are you down to join the

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parlay today? And he said absolutely. So he's given me

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a pick and I can't tell it put it in

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the chat.

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Speaker 1: I think he did put it in the chat already.

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Here it is, here we go, We're gonna go to

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this game.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the acc Bayou's in the parlay byox Clemson.

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I think Clemson just took a little bit of money,

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but we can call it plus eleven We'll just attach

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juice to it if we have to. Bia says, no problem,

480
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,279
he says, give me the Clemson Tigers in a four

481
00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:21,279
point close game.

482
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Rob.

483
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: I was at the most recent meeting between these two

484
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,599
teams at Cameron Indoor Stadium a couple of weeks ago,

485
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:32,279
and you know, it was a weird game because I

486
00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:36,920
thought Clemson played a solid first half where they where

487
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,519
they pretty much matched Duke for most of the way.

488
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,240
I can't remember what the score was at halftime, but

489
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:45,759
it was a pretty it was a pretty competitive first

490
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:51,599
half and it was thirty one twenty six. The second

491
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,000
half kind of got out of hand for a while,

492
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,720
and then Clemson sort of battled all the way back

493
00:24:57,759 --> 00:24:59,640
to like come in and cover the number right at

494
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,680
the end. So you ended up with a thirteen point

495
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,880
final in that game, sixty seven to fifty four. That

496
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,000
line closed thirteen and a half, So if you bet

497
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:12,160
at late, you would have got the money with Clemson there.

498
00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:17,680
But man, I go back to the second half of

499
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,519
that game when Duke started to figure them out and

500
00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:25,119
really get what they wanted offensively, and that scares me

501
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,039
a little bit. But I go back to last night, Rob,

502
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,000
and I said, this about you know, Kansas, I think

503
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,720
you can make this or Houston. So I think you

504
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:36,519
can make the case for some of the top top

505
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,839
teams like this week just isn't as important, And I

506
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,720
think where that may show up a little bit is

507
00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:46,559
defensive intensity. You know how teams play on the defensive

508
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,359
end now on Saturday or Sunday, when you're playing a

509
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,200
cut nets down, I think it's a little bit different.

510
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:55,160
But these early round games sometimes I just feel like

511
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:02,119
these big, big favorites are like not fully maybe not

512
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,039
gonna bring the same effort as a Clemson, is what

513
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:07,720
I'm trying to say. So Clemson plus eleven and a half,

514
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:12,119
you're on a neutral floor. I see where Bayou's coming

515
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,279
from here. I could see why he might think that

516
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:18,480
Clemson's able to hang around because let's just say Duke

517
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,240
doesn't have the ultra intensity that they came out of

518
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,920
the locker room with in Durham, which, of course, I

519
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,079
mean if Duke's gonna make adjustments and then start to

520
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,119
play off the crowd, that's usually where they hit the

521
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,000
knockout punch. Now you're on a neutral court, yeah, I

522
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:38,599
could kind of see Clemson keeping this within single digits,

523
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:43,000
so byolex Clemson, I'm inclined to agree with him at

524
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,400
that number of eleven and a half or eleven. Tell

525
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,119
me how you're seeing this when Duke Clemson ACC Tournament

526
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,279
Charlotte North Carolina.

527
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think Clemson only because of the number, Adam,

528
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,880
That's the only thing. I think the number might be excessive.

529
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,119
That being said, you could use the reverse logic and

530
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,960
say Duke just got their scare yesterday against Florida State.

531
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:08,359
Now you're playing without Caleb Foster. But I'll tell you

532
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,359
what absolutely is troublesome for the Clemson Tigers is when

533
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,200
you play Duke, you need size. And when you lose

534
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,559
Carter Welling for the season six foot tenant, probably the

535
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:26,559
most important post player on Clemson, you've got, you're gonna

536
00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,319
have some issues here. They worked around it yesterday against

537
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:34,799
North Carolina. But oh man, I remember coming on and

538
00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:40,200
telling you the correct pronunciation. I always called them hanri vassar,

539
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,720
but it's vesta or the correct pronunciations escaping me now.

540
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,359
But I remember looking it up and coming on there

541
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,960
and telling you he went crazy yesterday in the post

542
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:53,799
against Clemson. It's scary to me to think what Clemson

543
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,839
is defensively without Welling in there against Duke. Actually, if

544
00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:01,759
I go back to my numbers from yesterday, was huge

545
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,160
on the boards against Florida State, a forty six to

546
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,519
twenty five rebounding advantage plus twenty one. I know Caleb

547
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,319
Foster is a huge loss. I know Duke's dealing with

548
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,079
losses here, but the Welling injury to me makes a

549
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,759
huge difference in Clemson's play. Again, they got away with

550
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,920
it against North Carolina, who's nowhere near the defensive type

551
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,240
team that Duke is. And of course UNC is playing

552
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:33,279
without Caleb Wilson too, and Bisar still goes nuts. So

553
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,319
I don't think Clemson's gonna win this game unless, like

554
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,759
you said, Duke has got their vision on bigger fish

555
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:45,400
to fry next week. But I don't know that without

556
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,839
Welling they match up good enough here. And if Duke

557
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,920
does take the approach that that was our scare against

558
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,319
Florida State, they might be able to win this game

559
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:58,799
by margin. Clemson's known certainly to go into droughts. However,

560
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,039
the number just looks too big at him. All the

561
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:04,200
things that I just said were, you know, Clemson might

562
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,880
be a little bit I pointed out some negatives about Clemson,

563
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,720
all those things still don't add up to in my mind,

564
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:14,759
ten and a half eleven points. That's kind of a blowout. Yeah,

565
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,240
final score terms, and I don't know that Clemson gets

566
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,759
blown out. But honestly, I don't think they're winning the game.

567
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,920
And I think Bayou said within four points. I'm not

568
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,119
sure they play it within four, but they probably play

569
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:26,960
it within eleven.

570
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,759
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a reason

571
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:31,799
why I think Clemson could win this game that that

572
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,480
I think goes unnoticed on an annual basis in the

573
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:38,799
ACC but but deserves to be brought up pretty much

574
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:43,279
every year. Brad Brownell's arguably the best coach in this league,

575
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:45,680
especially the one that gets no credit for it. Now

576
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640
John Shire gets credit, and it's deserved. He's he's made

577
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,720
huge strides as a head coach. But he also I mean,

578
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160
you know, it's it's easy to win the race sometimes

579
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200
when you got the fastest car, right when you got

580
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,599
the nice like when you got the best wheels, like

581
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,880
you know you're you're gonna look good. Pretty much every year,

582
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,240
Brad Brownell just like coaches his way to being better

583
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,599
than his team is supposed to be. And so you

584
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,640
want to you want to give me Brownell in a

585
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,319
tournament setting, I'd rather have Brownell in a twenty four

586
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:20,799
hour prep than Shire, right, Like, just if you're talking about, like,

587
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,039
who do you think can put together a better game

588
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:24,359
plan in a in a day?

589
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,839
Speaker 1: Brownell Shire, I'm giving that to Brownell all day. Uh.

590
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,279
Speaker 2: I see the talk in the chat about about Welling.

591
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,480
First of all, so a couple things. One, yes, Clemson

592
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:35,400
does have some big man depth where I don't think

593
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,839
it's like just a monster drop off from a power

594
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,759
rating standpoint. And two, this was known like I don't

595
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,680
think anyone thought Welling was gonna play like It's what

596
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:46,759
I heard going into yesterday. That was it was he

597
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,440
was pretty much like not playing. And then it got

598
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,240
quote unquote announced announced that he was out. But I

599
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:56,319
was I thought that was just like sort of common

600
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,640
knowledge that he wasn't gonna play. So again, I don't

601
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,279
think that it's like I don't think that really should

602
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,000
be like like the basis of your handicap, because I

603
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,039
think that's more than baked in at this point. So

604
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,240
by you, I'm gonna I'm down to Row with you here.

605
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:16,839
I think Clemson plays a competitive game. And my reasoning

606
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,400
is just gonna be like year in and year out,

607
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,039
the wrong coaches get the attention in this league. Brad

608
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,559
Brownell does it every year. Every single year. Clemson is

609
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:28,559
better than they're supposed to be. And it's because that

610
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,960
dude can coach. And so you give me tournament setting,

611
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,200
you're gonna give me eleven eleven and a half points.

612
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,240
I'll take the better coach there, and I'll die on

613
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,599
that hill all day. Find me a better coach in

614
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,839
the ACC than Brad Brownell. That that's not shyer, because

615
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,359
again that's not fair. It's not a fair comparison. He

616
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:51,559
he gets all the best players. So any other team

617
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,680
in the ACC make a case for their coach, I

618
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,000
bet you can't. And I think I think going into

619
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,119
last year it would have been Pat Kelcey. But I've

620
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,559
downgraded him significantly in my coaching rankings. Says he hasn't

621
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,359
won a big game since showing up in Louisville. And

622
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
then yesterday and again you and I Rob were right

623
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,839
on uh, we were right on h on Miami. Who

624
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,039
gets it done against Louisville. So yeah, Bayou's leg of

625
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:17,799
the parlay. I'll co sign that that's Clemson and we'll

626
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:20,079
call it plus eleven. We'll see where it's at by

627
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:27,000
the end of the show. All right, let's go back

628
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,720
to the chat we've got Mansy, He says, good morning, fellas,

629
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:31,920
thanks for talking me off of the ledge on George

630
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,720
Mason yesterday he finished six point two to three units.

631
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,279
That's awesome, great day for Mansy right there. Yeah, I'm

632
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:41,160
I'm I'm glad we were able to keep you off

633
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,720
of that one. I'm a little disappointed in myself that

634
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:45,839
I didn't just run it back with the Bonnies because

635
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,039
I kind of thought I was, you know, had a

636
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:49,079
half of mind to do that.

637
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,119
Speaker 1: Didn't get the number I wanted, But it's all good.

638
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,599
Speaker 2: Got to stay disciplined long run that that that typically

639
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,200
works out. Here's one that I'm kind of I feel

640
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,119
like I'm in the same boat here where I'm gonna

641
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,720
I'm gonna stay disciplined because I'm not getting the number

642
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:08,000
that I want. Mansey says he likes UAB, but he

643
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:12,400
wants to get our view and I lean Charlotte plus

644
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,319
the points here, Rob, but I'm not getting the number

645
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,079
I want, so I'm gonna stay off of it.

646
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,519
Speaker 1: This is in Birmingham.

647
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:22,799
Speaker 2: It's not in uab's home arena, but it's in legacy arena.

648
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,480
Are you bumping UAB for home court at all? That

649
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,160
they're in Birmingham for this tournament?

650
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,759
Speaker 3: Well knowing that Charlotte fans are already there, Adam, you

651
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:33,960
can only bump them so much, right, I mean, it's

652
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640
not like, hey, Birmingham, here's all the tickets the road

653
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,319
yours now teams that left yesterday that are out of

654
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,839
the tournament. Those tickets can be bought up by Birmingham

655
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,359
residents and obviously it should be a pro UAB crowd,

656
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,000
but you can't give them the full bump that you

657
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:50,759
would give them for being home. But I did give

658
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,799
them a little bit of an edge here because I

659
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,119
do think that, you know, the people who left because

660
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,759
their teams got eliminated, those tickets probably go to Birmingham

661
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:02,640
residents today, which gives them the pro Birmingham crowded this one.

662
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,200
I'll step and let me just say this really quick,

663
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:12,679
just off of reading what mansy Man said, Neither Adam

664
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,639
or I come on here every day with the attention

665
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,000
of talking to you guys. Off of plays. Believe me,

666
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
we're just giving you our frame of mind the way

667
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,800
we're handicapping it. I've said it a zillion times on

668
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,039
this show that the intelligence level, the knowledge level, the

669
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,559
college basketball betting level of the chat guys on this

670
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,159
show is really, really strong. I do a lot of

671
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,519
shows you don't see that type of that type of research,

672
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,960
that type of thought put into handicapping process. So again

673
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,320
we're here to present all sides, hopefully to get you.

674
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,079
In yesterday's case, we saved Mansy a little bit of

675
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,000
money because he took the info and said, you know what,

676
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,480
maybe I don't want that side here. I'm gonna say this,

677
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,960
you ain't be as a play slowly, you know. Eleven

678
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:03,400
last night, midnight last night won that last night till

679
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:06,000
seven this morning, crept up my list of games I

680
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:11,119
want to play. Charlotte was here, Charlotte's been on this floor.

681
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,440
But U ain't be's healthy now. Adam and Andy Kennedy

682
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,119
went through a huge stretch of this season where this

683
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,880
team just was not healthy whatsoever. Guys in, guys out,

684
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,079
cluster of guys out. Playing with six men in a

685
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:28,159
game against Tulane at home, a couple of weeks back,

686
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,719
but now it seems to me that this would be

687
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,159
the time for UAB, pretty much in full health, to

688
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,840
rally up and accomplish something for this season. It's unlike

689
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,199
an Andy Kennedy UAB team to have what I would say,

690
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,400
in my estimation, I won't say zero accomplishments, because I

691
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,519
think the fact that he pulled it together to get

692
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,960
his team at least a bye in this tournament is

693
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:57,119
kind of an accomplishment in itself. They haven't been the

694
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,480
same offensive type team that we've known him four all

695
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,599
season long, but I do think they're good enough rebounding,

696
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,280
they're good enough defensively, there's times when they're good enough shooting,

697
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,480
and I think with everybody together now, the offense may

698
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:17,880
flow better. Charlotte is a decent offensive team, but I

699
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,760
don't know if you can take pace away from Charlotte.

700
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,159
I'm not so sure how good they are offensively. Played

701
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:26,079
a good game last night. Sort of kicked myself for

702
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,960
not being on that team against two Links. I don't

703
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,679
like round Hunter's team at all this year, and they

704
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,239
came out and you lose by fourteen. But in short,

705
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,760
I'm kind of with Mansey for some simplistic reasons. A

706
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:40,880
because I do think the crowd is going to be

707
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,280
pro Birmingham pro UAB, and B because I like the

708
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,159
fact that EUAB is in as good a health as

709
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:50,760
they've been for the most part of this season. And

710
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,360
this is kind of a you know, we've used this

711
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,079
example with other teams. It's kind of a reset, and

712
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,599
at least in my estimation, it's a reset for UAB.

713
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,199
Let's take what was kind of a you know, half

714
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,840
and half meds of meds fifty to fifty type season

715
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,639
and let's turn it into something good by winning this

716
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,800
conference tournament. So I do like you AB. I haven't

717
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,559
played them yet, but I could agree with that play.

718
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: I just wanted to look up.

719
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:24,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, here's the thing, Charlotte, I like how

720
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,280
scrappy this team is. I think Aaron Fern did a

721
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,480
good job of getting this team to to sort of

722
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:33,679
play to their almost their ceiling this year. Like if

723
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,079
you went back to the beginning of the season and

724
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,639
where to tell Charlotte, hey, like, you guys are gonna

725
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,280
finish in the top five or so in this league,

726
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,719
I think they would have taken that all day. The thing,

727
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,199
So I guess my concern for Charlotte to beat the

728
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,800
better teams, they're either gonna need those two guards to

729
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,679
go absolutely nuts. The one can desay Mingo absolutely ken

730
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,039
He's like one of those eyes where if he's having

731
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:05,239
his day, like I think he went to Wichita earlier

732
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239
this year in a game where they were an underdog

733
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,559
and just like went completely nuts, dropped twenty four points.

734
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:11,599
Speaker 1: They lost the game.

735
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,119
Speaker 2: But the point is they're either going to have to

736
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,920
have a performance like that or they They tend to

737
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,920
do better in the games that Anton Bank.

738
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,639
Speaker 1: Can can have an effect on.

739
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:25,599
Speaker 2: So if you're not familiar with him, he's seven foot two,

740
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,119
and when he has been with the teams that struggle

741
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:33,639
with him for one reason or another tend to lose

742
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,480
to Charlotte. If he's not gonna be as big of

743
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:40,079
a deterrent to you, if you're their opponent, then the

744
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,119
team tends to beat Charlotte. That That's kind of what

745
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,719
I've noticed with the Charlotte team this year. He I

746
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,800
don't think he had a huge effect on that UAB

747
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,119
game a couple of weeks ago. I believe they held

748
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:54,480
him to only seven shot attempts, ten points, six rebounds.

749
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,679
You know he's he's big, it doesn't necessarily mean that

750
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,239
like Charlotte's gonna totally clean everything up and defend the

751
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,440
rim like this Charlotte team, defensive rating wise, is not

752
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,960
sort of elite and they're not a great rebounding team.

753
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:14,440
So that is probably where UAB wins this game. The

754
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,400
fact that like they should, they really should destroy Charlotte

755
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,800
on the glass because they're gonna put a more physical

756
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,159
guy on Bonk and he's he's I don't think he's

757
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:24,320
gonna have as big of an impact on the game

758
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,480
as say, like when I went to see Charlotte play

759
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:31,360
North Texas and they didn't really have those like super

760
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,559
physical front court guys, he was able to have a

761
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:39,239
real effect on the game. So yeah, I guess it's tough.

762
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,679
Like I think, I think I went into this tournament

763
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,559
rob wanting to find spots to play Charlotte miss missed

764
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,920
my opportunity yesterday. Yesterday would have been the opportunity, And

765
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,400
I'm kicking myself. It was on the long list. I

766
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,800
couldn't get there with it. They win by fourteen and

767
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,840
cover easily. Yeah, this is a worse matchup for them.

768
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,920
So even though they're catching some points and maybe could

769
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,519
keep it close. I think I think you've sort of

770
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:06,159
pulled me to your side a little bit. Where UAB

771
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,920
is getting healthy. U AB's can play physical in the

772
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,519
front court. And that's the thing. U A B doesn't

773
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,239
want to shoot the three like Charlotte would prefer you

774
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,800
shoot the three. UAV doesn't want to shoot the three.

775
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,400
They're one of the worst three point shooting teams in

776
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,639
the country. So if they if they're engaged, which why

777
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:24,920
would they not be. They're in they're in their conference tournament,

778
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,159
fighting for their n NCAA tournament life, and they're like

779
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,599
ultra physical in this game.

780
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:31,039
Speaker 1: I think Charlotte could have an issue with that.

781
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: So I'm uh, I think, I'm I think you've I

782
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,519
think you've pulled me.

783
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,159
Speaker 1: You've certainly pulled me off of Charlotte.

784
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:38,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna turn around and bet

785
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:42,280
you a B, but I I really do think as

786
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,679
we talk it out, uab's definitely.

787
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: Starting to make more sense.

788
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: And they went to Charlotte really quick here Adam just

789
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,360
nine days ago, and they win by six in Charlotte.

790
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,519
You know, I just like I say, there's some intangibles

791
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:01,400
to this thought process with ua be but they've scored

792
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,719
eighty three and ninety in their last two games. Just

793
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,559
feel like Andy Kennedy's getting the offense to a point

794
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:10,199
where he's got enough of his guys now to play

795
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,760
the way he wants to play. We'll see how it

796
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,280
works out today. That's an early game too. I think

797
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,719
that goes somewhat early. I don't have the exact time

798
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,079
on it, but I think it's a day game.

799
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:23,159
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it moving.

800
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: John I three fourteen says, thanks for being such a

801
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,360
great resource for us. We're better because of your hard

802
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,880
work and analysis. John, I can't tell you how much

803
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,559
I appreciate that. That was the whole point in doing

804
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,519
this show. I fought against it being just like a

805
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:45,119
rapid fire picks show because that's, you know, I had

806
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,360
to fight for to get this hour and do what

807
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,840
I wanted to do, which was go deep into you know,

808
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,480
whatever games the chat wanted to talk about, which means like,

809
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,920
we have no script for this, We just talk about

810
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,039
the games that you guys bring up, which means you

811
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,159
have to basically be prepared to talk all of them.

812
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,039
And that the fact that it's worked out as good

813
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:08,920
as it has. It makes me really happy. And to

814
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,360
hear that it's that you guys are benefiting from it

815
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,320
and then can take this information and go make your

816
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,079
own bets was was always the goal. I've said this

817
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:18,199
a million times. If you just want to bet what

818
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,679
we're betting, it's really not that expensive to go to

819
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,079
wager Talk and buy the packages, like I mean, if

820
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:28,280
you're if you're betting anything significant on these games, which

821
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,480
I'm guessing that a lot of the chat is because

822
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:32,519
I don't think that you guys would put this much

823
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:34,559
time and effort into it if you weren't actually betting

824
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,840
the games. You know, the three day package Rob and

825
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,719
I have is really not that expensive in the grand

826
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,400
team scheme of things that's going to get you what

827
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,480
we're playing. The point of this show is to come

828
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:47,000
on and try to deep dive your games. So like

829
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,360
if you're Mansie, you can let now go and say

830
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,480
do I want to put my hard earned money on

831
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,039
you ab or do I not? And so I really

832
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,599
am thrilled that that is what you guys are taking

833
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:59,760
from this. So thank you, John, and I'll go ahead

834
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,559
with my parlay league here. Rob Vino, I know you

835
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:07,000
love your coaches. I know you love your coaches. And

836
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:12,239
Mark Schmidt after that game yesterday. I've never heard someone

837
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,880
talk about only in New York in in in such

838
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,679
high regard as Mark Schmidt.

839
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: He compared it.

840
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: He compared Saint Bonaventure basketball to Alabama football, which I

841
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,559
thought was interesting but also pretty. But but what he's

842
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,280
saying is like, I know it's true because I've I've

843
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,280
I live in this area, I have friends that went

844
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,119
to Saint Bonaventure. Like his quote was, Saint basketball is

845
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:40,599
everything to that community and and and the following in

846
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:45,440
that area and and specifically with Saint Bonaventure alums like it.

847
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,119
It really does have like a tremendous basketball culture. They're

848
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,679
like they're gonna be fine like that, that program will

849
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,280
be will be just fine long term. Uh, if you

850
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,360
have never been to Olian, it is as off the

851
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,320
beaten path of a place as you're gonna fine.

852
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: So it's like for a school that's there to be

853
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,239
a pretty much year.

854
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: In, year out competitive in the Atlantic ten is impressive

855
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,559
in its own reguard. Mark Schmidt's been there for nineteen years.

856
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:14,760
This will be his last year. After yesterday, Rob, you

857
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,679
can't tell me that that.

858
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,639
Speaker 1: They're not.

859
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they're going out there and playing like it's

860
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,159
life or death. I was so impressed with the Bonnies yesterday.

861
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:26,719
I didn't necessarily love the matchup and love the number

862
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:31,639
in that game for them yesterday, but to say that like,

863
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,239
I mean, they absolutely wanted it. They played their tails

864
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,760
off and I wouldn't be that surprised if they were

865
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,559
able to do it again today. And this is one

866
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,360
where I actually do think there's some number value. And

867
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,039
it's not because the books are like, oh, like a

868
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:49,239
week we think the Bonnies aren't gonna play well today.

869
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,280
It's because Dayton for the last month has just been

870
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,960
an entirely different team than they were the first sort

871
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,239
of few months of the season. So what's helping the

872
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Bonnies out for I'm a number perspective here, Rob, in

873
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:06,159
my opinion, is the last sort of month plus that

874
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Dayton has just been that they've looked more like a

875
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,880
Dayton that you would expect Dayton to look like then,

876
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,360
let's say, like the first three months of the season.

877
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,800
But Rob, seven points, I actually think it's six and

878
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,840
a half across the board now.

879
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,599
Speaker 1: I think as soon as it started to hit seven,

880
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,719
there started to be some opposition.

881
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 2: It looks like we're six and a half across the

882
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:32,280
board here. My number on this is three point one.

883
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,800
I make on a neutral. I make date in a

884
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,960
three point one point favorite against Saint Bonaventure. So I

885
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:41,519
have not added this for clients yet, but mostly because

886
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:44,280
I wanted to see if that dateon money would show

887
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,679
up in this hour. Because I because some group has

888
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,400
bet Dayton basically every time they play for like the

889
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,280
last five weeks, and so I'm like, okay, well they

890
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,000
might that might come in again, push it up to

891
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,679
seven and a half. But even at the current mark

892
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,320
of six and a half, I still see pretty good

893
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,559
value there. And this is a scenario where I like

894
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:06,760
the fact that the bodies have now played back to

895
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,800
back days they've won both of those games. Like Mark

896
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,679
Schmidt came out and basically talked about how much he

897
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,000
loves this guys loves the community, like.

898
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: They're not going down there.

899
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: They are not going out of this tournament rob without

900
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,519
giving their absolute best shot, in my opinion, and so

901
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:25,599
for that reason, I think six and a half is good.

902
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,639
I think if they lose, it's going to be a

903
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,199
close game that Dayton had to squeak out in the

904
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:33,079
final couple possessions, So that'll be by leg of the

905
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:36,840
parlay Saint Bonaventure plus six and a half. But talk

906
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,400
to me about that game and if you have anything

907
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,159
on the total. I'm curious to see where your head's

908
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:41,039
at for this one.

909
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we've kind of hit on my thoughts

910
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400
for this game the last couple of days. Adam A

911
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,440
and you just talked about Mark Schmidt. But I don't

912
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,559
want to stand in front of an emotional freight train

913
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,400
at this point in time. You know, we talked about

914
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,239
it the very first game. I think we kind of

915
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,960
pointed towards State Bonnie, mainly because you know, at the

916
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,119
Mark Schmidt Angle and just that it was an entire regroup. Again,

917
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,519
these conference tournaments provide that for teams. Here's your chance

918
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:15,199
to make good on what went bad all season long.

919
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,400
Two games on this floor, Dayton stepping foot on it

920
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
for the first time. You never know how that's gonna

921
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,480
work out. We know Saint Bonaventure's very comfortable with the surroundings,

922
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,000
very comfortable with the rims. George Mason is not you know,

923
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:35,400
they're not a consistent offensive threat. But Saint Bonaventure put

924
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,840
the defensive clamps on them yesterday. I mean, George Mason,

925
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,920
if you're only an average offensive team, we're going to

926
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,639
make sure you're below average today through energy and effort.

927
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:47,079
And I don't know that third game in three days

928
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,559
necessarily takes We've seen it time in and time out. Now,

929
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:56,480
it doesn't necessarily take out your legs the third time around.

930
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,159
It could be the fourth. If Saint Bonaventure were to win,

931
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,719
maybe I would talk differently tomorrow. Maybe there's a lot

932
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,320
of emotion flowing and they're just worn at that point.

933
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,119
But I think they've got enough in the tank for

934
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:14,280
one more performance. And to your point about Dayton, really good,

935
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:20,480
really lousy, really good once again, and then I believe

936
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:24,679
their last game they had a flop to end the season.

937
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,800
So I don't know. I'm not all there with Dayton yet,

938
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,440
at least not. You know, if this was Saint Louis

939
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,679
or VCU, I wouldn't give Saint Bonaventure this kind of

940
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,000
creedence or consideration. But it's Dayton. And you know the

941
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:47,079
separation of teams from Saint Louis and VCU on down

942
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:49,880
in this league. The rest all in a in a blender.

943
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,440
I don't know any given day is kind of my

944
00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:56,039
thought on this league. It just doesn't You're not Dayton.

945
00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:00,480
You're not good enough to just go ahead and destroy

946
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,320
everybody the way that Saint Louis and VCU are capable of.

947
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,280
So the points I wouldn't stand in the way of

948
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,360
that Dayton did put up. I'm just looking up here.

949
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,000
They put up a pretty good fight against VCU last game. Remember,

950
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,360
there was Dayton money, like you just said, there was

951
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,039
Dayton money on that contest, and the VCU angle for

952
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:22,119
that game was a They had destroyed Dayton earlier and

953
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,559
b all bracketologists were putting VCU firmly on the bubble,

954
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:29,360
so they needed a win. They got the win. Dayton

955
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,920
couldn't continue the win streak even at home Ada. It's

956
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,639
a tough situation for Dayton to just walk onto this

957
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,480
floor for the first time against a team playing with

958
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:38,079
such emotion.

959
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, Rob, I want to throw one other thing out

960
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,039
there to you here, because if you know Mark Schmid,

961
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,199
you know he doesn't like to play his bench, okay,

962
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,360
and so you could look at that and say, oh,

963
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,599
well they're fatigued. But also, like I think you have

964
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:52,760
to look at that and say, like no, Like these

965
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,800
five guys are like just.

966
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: Ready to go to war right now.

967
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: They're gonna literally lead every single bit they've got on

968
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,239
the floor. And it's like, I want to go back

969
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,159
to that first meeting because I've been to this game

970
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,119
in both buildings before. I've been to Dayton Bonnie's at

971
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:11,719
Saint Bonaventure. I've been to Dayton Bonnie's at ud Arena.

972
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:14,000
It always feels like this is a really good game.

973
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:17,039
Earlier this season, seventy two to seventy, Dayton wins the

974
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,119
game at Dayton. Guess how many bench points Saint Bonaventure

975
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,039
had in that game, real quick, off the top of

976
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:22,360
your head.

977
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,679
Speaker 1: Don't look three zero zero bench points.

978
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,119
Speaker 2: The starters scored all seventy points in that game. I'm sorry, like,

979
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:34,440
winner go home. This type of setting. Give me Saint

980
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,280
Bonaventure's best five on the floor all game. I think

981
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,599
they're gonna keep it within six and that will be

982
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,760
my leg of the parlay.

983
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: So here's what we're gonna do.

984
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: We have one more starred super chat that we're gonna

985
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,159
go to, and I know you're gonna have an opinion

986
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:49,440
here and then I'll let you close it out with

987
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:51,760
whatever you want to use for the parlay. But let's

988
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,400
go back to Mansy. So he says he likes a

989
00:50:54,639 --> 00:51:00,280
UAB Sam Houston moneyline parlay. Rob Bino gave us Sam

990
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,800
Houston two days ago when we hit our Saint Bonnie's

991
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,400
Sam Houston two teamer. So let's you know, first of all, like,

992
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,119
let's address that, would you sign off on a UA

993
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,480
B to Saint Sam Houston moneyline parlay? And also Rob

994
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:18,360
your thoughts on Tennessaw State Sam Houston State.

995
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, what we already talked about. I like UAB, so

996
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,719
if I don't have to lay any points, I'm gonna

997
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,719
like them even more. So, Yes, I would sign off

998
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,480
on that. Happy. Yes, I would sign off on the

999
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:33,199
second half. Although I'll caveat that by saying this to me,

1000
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,400
this might be Sam Houston's scariest matchup. If they win this,

1001
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:38,360
I think they go on and win Attorney. I've said

1002
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,599
earlier that I thought they had the opportunity to win

1003
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:46,239
the Attorney. Kenesaw State is a somewhat scary type team, Adam.

1004
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,440
They do a lot of things. Payton rebounding come to

1005
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,320
mind really quick. Sam Houston will go. This is going

1006
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,519
to be a track meet. I worry about the boards

1007
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,599
in this game on Sam Houston's side, but I don't

1008
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:01,280
worry about the shot making ability and the ability to

1009
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,400
get to the free throws real quick. Just in comparison,

1010
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,599
not that they're the same team as Idaho, but when

1011
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:10,079
I was kind of previewing Idaho in their games, I

1012
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:13,119
had said, when you're in this type of league, mid major,

1013
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,039
and you have multiple guys that can get their own

1014
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:19,440
in other words, they can take man to man defense,

1015
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,079
off the dribble and get to the rim whenever they want,

1016
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:25,360
those types of teams generally win in this league. Sam

1017
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,639
Houston's got that. They've got multiple that can get to

1018
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:32,039
the rack on their own. So they're not a stationary team.

1019
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,480
They're a fast team. They're not the best defensive team,

1020
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:36,320
and they're not the best rebounding team, which I think

1021
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:40,320
are flawed in this particular matchup. But I still think

1022
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,960
they have enough offense and enough playmaking ability, and they'll

1023
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,039
probably visit the free throw line in this game enough

1024
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:51,079
to get it done. So I would agree with Mansi there.

1025
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,079
I actually have a ticket on Sam Houston State to

1026
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:56,400
win this conference tournament. So let's hope that they get

1027
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,599
past this one. Sometimes when you have that future ticket,

1028
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,719
you don't really need to play the game. You just

1029
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,880
sit back with your future tick and hope you advance

1030
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,519
and maybe if you feel like hedging out at the end,

1031
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,599
you can do that. I'm going to get at ten p.

1032
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:10,800
Fifty three here. Let me get to mind, Adam, because

1033
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,039
you said something yesterday that I couldn't agree with more.

1034
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:15,480
I don't know if we were on air or off air.

1035
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:18,400
We might have been off air, but it had to

1036
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,119
do with Florida Atlantic North Texas, the Devin Vanterpool injury.

1037
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:27,599
We were discussing the game, and I think now I

1038
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,920
get my shot at the pinata. I'm going to leave

1039
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,719
Tulsa as the best bet here for the show. Minus

1040
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,519
eight and a half against North Texas. I just, in

1041
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:40,719
no way, shape or form do I think North Texas

1042
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:46,960
is offensively capable enough. And again, the mirage type outings

1043
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,679
happened in college basketball all the time, so as I

1044
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,679
say this, it's not you know, like I just broke

1045
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,840
into Fort Knox and I can steal all the gold.

1046
00:53:55,519 --> 00:54:01,440
But Tulsa offensively can create separation against a team like this.

1047
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,000
North Texas goes into one of those scoring droughts, and

1048
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,639
the Tulsa offense has proven in the AAC all season long.

1049
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:11,239
They're gonna score on anybody. I mean, no matter how

1050
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,960
good you want to tell me. The North Texas defense is.

1051
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:17,519
Tulsa scored eighty two on them and a prim and

1052
00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:20,400
that was a revenge meeting because North Texas got Tulsa

1053
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,639
earlier this year, and then Tulsa came back and straightened

1054
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:26,679
that out eighty two to sixty six down the stretch

1055
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,039
here for Tulsa, their point totals were one hundred ninety

1056
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,199
ninety three seventy eight, just to give you some if

1057
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:35,840
you haven't seen them play this year, just to give

1058
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,760
you some idea of how well they can score. And

1059
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,960
to me, it's it's kind of just the matchup. Again.

1060
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,159
If you've been with us since the beginning of November,

1061
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:48,519
you've heard this a lot too. The matchups make these games,

1062
00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:51,519
the styles make these games, and of course the number

1063
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:54,159
becomes the deciding factor. I just don't think that the

1064
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,960
number is high enough in this instance to stop me

1065
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,199
from playing Tulsa. I think they can win it by

1066
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,199
twelve plus. Again, they're good enough on the defensive end

1067
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,719
their pace. You know, you might worry a little bit

1068
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,679
about North Texas trying to slow them down, but I

1069
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,199
always use the adage ad or at least the handicapping

1070
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,920
tool that I use, is that when you're in chase

1071
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,960
mode and you're the pedestrian team, you can't continue to

1072
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,320
play pedestrian. You have to catch up at some point,

1073
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,599
and I think Tulsa might get out of the shute

1074
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,719
quickly here. So you guys can hear in my voice,

1075
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,639
this is one of the stronger plays I've had all

1076
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:33,840
season long. I like Tulsa. I laid seven and a half,

1077
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,800
but we're using eight and a half for purposes of

1078
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,000
the show because that's where it sits right now. There's

1079
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:41,719
been some money toward them. They've been pretty much the

1080
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,119
class of this league all season long, and their offensive

1081
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:50,480
capabilities compared to what North Texas can do offensively just

1082
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:54,000
to me screams like a six minute section of this

1083
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,719
game where Tulsa outscores them, like twenty three to seven

1084
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,800
or something, and Tulsa moves on with convincing win. So

1085
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,880
give me Tulsa minus state and a half here for

1086
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,239
my leg at the parlay.

1087
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna choose this one to talk

1088
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,679
about of the two we just talked about as we

1089
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,719
wrapped the show up. I was at the first meeting

1090
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,960
between these two teams in Denton, Texas, uh Nor. North

1091
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,079
Texas won that game, and from from a shot making standpoint,

1092
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:23,360
that may have been North Texas's best game of the season,

1093
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,920
where they like, this is not a North Texas team

1094
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,599
that just like makes a bunch of tough jumpers. That's

1095
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:32,239
that's really not their forte is not shooting the basketball.

1096
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,440
And they hit every big shot that they needed to

1097
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,960
hit in the second half to win that game.

1098
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: They made. It's just was it was one of those.

1099
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,119
Speaker 2: Days where they if they needed a shot to go

1100
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:46,719
in at a certain point in time in the second

1101
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,400
half because Tulsa led, you know, it was a it

1102
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,159
was a very close game. For most of that game.

1103
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,760
Tulsa would go up one or two points. They hit

1104
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,920
every big shot they needed to in that game. The

1105
00:56:56,039 --> 00:57:00,119
return meeting in Tulsa a few weeks later, they they

1106
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:03,639
had one little drought and were very quickly down double digits,

1107
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,559
ended up losing eighty two to sixty six. Tulsa was

1108
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:12,159
a team that I was like insanely high on if

1109
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:13,679
you go all the way back to when I said

1110
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:17,480
they would beat Kansas State and then lost the game.

1111
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: Inexplicably lost that game.

1112
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,599
Speaker 2: They had a five point lead against k State in

1113
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:24,880
that game with like forty seconds left and lost it.

1114
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,280
But still that was way back rob in mid November,

1115
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,719
I was already started talking about this Tulsa team being

1116
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,239
really good.

1117
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:33,679
Speaker 1: Listen.

1118
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: They had a little bit of a lull in conference

1119
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,719
play where they played South Florida UAB at South Florida

1120
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,199
UAB at home at Wichita State.

1121
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,199
Speaker 1: They lost all three of those games.

1122
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: I feel like the books have forgotten about this team

1123
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,079
a little bit, And since then, they've rattled off five

1124
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:52,960
straight wins and they've looked very much. You know, yes,

1125
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,920
did they struggle a little bit with Temple, Yes, but

1126
00:57:57,039 --> 00:57:59,480
like in that stretch, they have a twenty six point

1127
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:04,599
win over San Antonio, a thirty four point win over

1128
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:08,960
two Lane, and a twenty seven point win over East Carolina.

1129
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:13,400
They are probably the most capable sort of kill shot

1130
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,000
team in this league, where it's like you could be

1131
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,679
in a close game with them and then two seconds

1132
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,679
later you're down ten, because that's just how efficient that

1133
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:26,159
their offense is. Specifically, they're starting five, so they've got

1134
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:28,599
that big sort of knockout punch potential.

1135
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: Rob. I very much like this play.

1136
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: I wish I had the number you did for a

1137
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,599
seven and a half, but still set eight and a

1138
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:37,039
half is.

1139
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,639
Speaker 1: Fine for the parlay. I'm I'm entirely with you on

1140
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:41,719
this one.

1141
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: It's the benefit of being awake at three thirty in

1142
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:50,039
the morning. You can get seven and a half. Man.

1143
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,599
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we have reached the hour mark. I'll

1144
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:58,400
recap the three teamer for today. We have by you

1145
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:02,639
bets coming in to the parlay with Clemson plus. Actually,

1146
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:04,760
let me just make sure I've got the numbers correct here.

1147
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:08,199
I want to make sure we get we at least

1148
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:10,639
give him eleven so I can I can juice these

1149
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,000
up if needed. Of course, this is somehow the ACC

1150
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:16,800
Tournament's the only one that I can't find on my

1151
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,679
screen right now.

1152
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: Why they buried this? Oh here we go. Yeah, so

1153
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,440
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw that.

1154
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put minus one twenty juice on on that

1155
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,880
one because I want to make sure we get him eleven.

1156
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,119
We'll say, uh, well, we'll throw minus one twenty juice

1157
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:32,400
on yours to Rob and make sure we get eight.

1158
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,880
That way, that way we're not getting middled if you

1159
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,239
if you win your bet. So let's go Tulsa minus

1160
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:42,360
eight for Rob minus one twenty, Clemson plus eleven for

1161
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:45,599
Buyo minus one twenty, and then mine will be Saint

1162
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:49,159
Bonaventure plus six and a half minus one ten because

1163
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:51,480
that's six and a half everywhere right now. That is

1164
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:54,360
your three teamer today. Rob and I are back tomorrow

1165
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,400
morning with Kelly and Vegas on Wager Talk Last Call,

1166
00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:01,760
so we'll be firing another three team or then. But

1167
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,920
have a great weekend everyone, cash all your tickets. I

1168
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:09,159
may have a five percenter today. I'll probably decide within

1169
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,199
the hour if if something I want to bet later

1170
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,760
is going to be a four or five, So stay

1171
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,880
tuned for that and just grab the double to CBB

1172
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,719
Firepower package because then you'll already have it instead of

1173
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:22,440
having to play full price for that five percenter. Appreciate

1174
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,280
you guys tuning in as always, and we will see

1175
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,159
you guys on Last Call eleven am tomorrow morning.