Speaker 1: You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 2: These are the.
Speaker 1: Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,
because today you'll hear another account that just might change
the way you see the woods forever.
Speaker 2: So stay with us.
Speaker 1: Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his
fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,
please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.
Thank you, Hey, Eric hasigar Man, Hey man, are you
I'm doing well?
Speaker 2: Doing well? Hey, thanks for coming up.
Speaker 1: I feel free to share what happened, where it happened
if you can, and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Get a lot of be fun. This I was. I
was ten years old in nineteen seventy eight and I
was up at my grandpa's place. He has a He
had a double wide trailer up in on fourteen acres
up in Whitmore, California, which is about sixty miles east
of Redding, and it's in He's in the deep woods
up there in Whitmore, and he had a trout stream
and about fourteen acres. And one night I was laying
on the couch in his place and I heard this
noise out back, like a really loud, crashing noise. And
I opened up my eyes and there was this bigfoot
staring at me through the window. He was about nine
foot tall, his shoulders were about four and a half
five foot wide. He was just enormous and scary. I
couldn't even move. I was so terrified. I was ten
years old, you know, and I was terrified. But apparently
these things just have a habit of looking through windows.
And I opened up my eyes and he was staring
right at me. Man, I thought he was gonna come
through the window and get me. I literally peed my pants, man,
and I didn't say anything to anybody. The next day,
I went outside to see what the crash was. And
I had an aquarium back there on a table with
my snakes in there, and the aquarium was actually on
the ground, and my snakes were gone and there were
prints all around my dad my grandpa's place. And there's
a trail that leads from my grandpa's place to a
fishing hole about about a quarter mile down in the woods.
If you follow the stream down there, there's a blockade
of where we go trout fishing. And I think Bigfoot
lives on the next door neighbors property in that area,
because there's nobody on that property. And I think because
of the trout stream, it draws deer and it draws
all kinds of animals to it. I think that's what
he was doing, was he was actually hunting the stream
that night, and it was pretty scary. I left the
very next day, and I've never been back to my
grandpa since. That terrified me, honestly. And you know, I'd
never had a never even thought of anything before, because
I've been up there many times, and I've walked that
trail down to the trout stream and fished and blah
blah blah, and then all of a sudden, that one night,
it terrified me. I never went back. I left my
grandpa's and never went back. I didn't tell anything of
anybody about it because I didn't want to get teased
or you know, people saying, oh, yeah, you didn't see
this or you didn't see that. Hey, man, I know
what I saw. I might have been ten years old,
but I know what I saw. And then my second sighting.
I used to own a cabin up in a place
called Iowa Hill, which is by Colfax and Auburn, California,
Northern California, about two hours north of sam Or Sacrabento.
And this was a deep forest. I lived in a
place called Iowa Hill. It's up by Forest City. You
can google it, and it's really deep woods. I was fishing.
I went down a fire trail and I saw a
bunch of bear scat at the bottom of the trail.
So I was kind of worried about getting out and
fishing in that spot. But man, when you're catching twenty
inch rainbow trout out of that spot, how can you
say no, you know? So I got out and I
went to do some fishing, and I heard something coming
through the woods. I thought it was that bear that
left that scat, And next thing, you know, about ten
feet away from me, man, a bigfoot came out of
the woods and he was staring right at me. He
was growling a little bit, but he wasn't very It
didn't seem like he was mad or angry because you know,
maybe he wasn't the violent type, because you know, they
all have different attitudes, or maybe he didn't feel like
I was a threat to him because I was just
a kid and I was just fishing. You know. I
was about thirteen years old at the time. And I
threw him three of my trout that I caught, and
he took them and just walked right back into the woods.
Didn't give me no gup or anything like that. But
you know, as soon as he left, I got I
got all my stuff pack, got my lying out of
the water, and I got that out of there. Man.
You know, my dad was with me and he saw
it too, and he was just like, wow, that was
pretty amazing. And I was like, yeah, he goes, let's
get out of here. So we left. I've never seen
him again, you know, but I've seen twice. I've seen
him twice in the Northern California, the Northern California area,
you know. Iowa Hill is about six hours from Nevada,
the very end of Nevada, in a town called Winnetonka,
about six hours from there. And then that's then, like
I said, we were wearing the Sierra Nevadas, you know,
and they were two quite different experiences, you know. And
I thought I was dead. I thought he was gonna
kill me, honestly, you know, because I've heard stories and
I've seen all those you know, like bog the Creature,
Boggy Kreek and stuff like that. I've seen all those
videos and stuff, and you know, and what's the other guy,
the skunk ape? You know in in Bazouri they got
the skunk Ape, and uh, you know, I saw that
stuff when I was a kid. So I and then
I've seen a movie where bigfoots were throwing rocks and
had some miners that were in a cabin and stuff
and throwing you know. So I always thought, you think, yeah,
I always thought these things were like mean and and
and just killing killing machines, you know. But the one
that stared through my grandpa's window at me, I I
really thought that guy was gonna come through that window
and get me, man. But the one up there, I
was terrified. My knees were shaken and I was so scared.
I was like frozen in place. Man. I couldn't have moved.
I couldn't have run. I couldn't have done anything at
the time. And like I said, I threw him three
of my rainbow trouts man that I caught, and he
picked him up and just walked back into the woods
like no big deal, it's wild.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, man, I got I got a few
questions for you. So you're Witmore, California sighting when you're
ten years old and it was so close to you,
do you remember any specifics about what the face looked
like having that close to look to it.
Speaker 3: It kind of looked like the picture you have in
the background there, Yeah, kind of like that. But he
was he was huge. I mean he had you know,
his head was more it looked a little more like
kind of pointy or triangleish, But I think that was
just because his hair structure on him and he had
he would just look like pure muscle man, like, you know,
like he could take on an arm and just I
don't know. He was terrifying. He was like nine foot
tall because the window sill my grandpa's uh A mobile
trailer was actually sitting up on blocks and the bottom
of that window seal was about six foot off the ground.
It sat over the top of the bench that by
snake and quarium was on, and he would have had
been at least nine foot tall for him to take
up that whole entire window. I mean his head was
touching the very top of that window, and his shoulders
and his shoulders, I mean to a ten year old,
you know, they looked about four or five foot wide.
He looked. He looked huge, man, And I mean it was.
He was scary enough that I just I got out
of there. The very next day. I called my dad
and told him, you got to come pick me up
and get me out of here. You know, I'm like,
I can't do another day here. And you know, He's like,
what's going on? Man? I just couldn't tell him.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh my goodness, was here a smell at
all that you remember?
Speaker 3: Not from the one that was outside my grandpa's place.
I couldn't smell anything through that window, but the one.
That's one thing I forgot to mention was I smelled
a stench before he actually walked out the woods. So
it actually it came like downwind on me that it
smelled like a kind of kind of musky and kind
of like a stench, like a dead animal stench, you know,
like a dead body like he like he was, you know,
rubbing a dead carcass on him or something. I mean,
it was it was horrible. Yeah, you could you could
smell him before he came out of the woods. And
that's when I kind of thought something, something was happening.
But like I said, I thought it was originally a bear.
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, okay, what were the things that you
saw that made you think, okay, this is definitely not
a bear though.
Speaker 3: Oh well, when he comes out on standing on two legs.
Bears don't really walk on two legs. He had human
like features, you know, his hands, his feet, His hands
hung down to his knees like just just a little bit.
His fingers were just a little bit past his knees.
And this this this big foot was only about eight foot.
He wasn't he wasn't nine. He was like like seven
to eight foot, So he was probably in there thing
that he was probably a teenager. You know, he was
probably a teenage big foot because I've heard of him
getting up to like twelve feet tall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely yeah, And.
Speaker 3: He was and he was only about seven to eight
feet And I was only thirteen, So I was only,
like I think at thirteen, I was like five foot,
like five seven, five eight something like that. I was
just tiny. And he he stood almost twice my heighth,
you know, like one and a half times my height.
But yeah, there was a really really rancid smell, like
rotten meat, like like rotting meat or rotting flesh. You know.
I don't know if you ever smelt like a dead
deer carcass that's been sitting for a while, Man's that's
what it smelled like. Man. It smelled like he'd been
sitting on something like an elk or a deer. There's
a lot of what good wildlife up there in the
northern Sierra as an Iowa Hill, you know.
Speaker 1: So how did this, you know, affect you after the
age of thirteen?
Speaker 2: Did it?
Speaker 1: Did it steer your life in a certain direction because
of those encounters you have?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sold my cabin that year. I sold my
cabin and I got out of Iowa Hill and I moved.
I moved all the way to Michigan, you know, I
just I wanted to get as far away as possible.
Like I said that, if you look at like all
the sightings at California. It's all up there in the
northern California's northern Sierras mostly. You know, there's a few
in the southern in mid California, but northern CALIFORNI like Washington,
you know, is just loaded with sightings. And I don't know,
I just didn't want to. I went to Michigan. I
became a hunter in Michigan. Uh when I got older.
But then, uh, I got to a point where I
was like, you know what, I remember what happened in California.
I don't even want to go in the woods anymore.
I took on fishing instead of hunting, you know, so
I could be on a boat.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. I mean, oh man, Uh,
there's so many experiences that happened in Michigan. I'm sure
you've looked into it. If you haven't, you might be
surprised how many things happen in Michigan. It is very
intense out there as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just saw I just saw a thing where
they found uh, somebody video to Bigfoot, uh going down
the Cast River. And I think, and I was thinking, man,
you know what, I used to fish the Cast River,
as you know, as a kid, because my grandma lived
there and I used to go visit her out there,
and that's where me and Grandpa used to go fishing,
was the Cast River. And then I saw them show
a video of a bigfoot walking in the Cast River.
I'm glad that we never ran into that guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Eric so Man, thank you so much
for coming up. If you ever have any experiences out
there in Michigan, I would love to hear about it.
My email is Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com, where
you can reach out directly to me. But okay, I
mean there's a chance, you know, if you have stuff
happened once, it can happen again, so you never don't.
Speaker 3: I told these I wrote this report out for the BFRO,
and I told them about all this stuff and where
it all happened and everything too, you know, the Bigfoot
Research Organization, and I gave I told them the story
and all that. But I haven't heard anything from them
on it or anything. I mean I can show them
exactly where to go and where it was, and you know,
every spot, so yeah, you know they would go out
and check it out since there were so many reports
over there. And like I said, it was. It was
My grandpa's place was in the deep woods of Whitmore
in like the backwoods, like right before you get the
red bluff and stuff, and it was a man, it
was a beautiful place, but scary. Let me tell you.
My grandpa always told me, don't go in the woods
unless you take one of the one of the rifles
with you. And I was. I never knew why I was.
I was young and dumb, so I'm thinking, why would
I want to take a rifle. I'm just going to
play in the woods, you know. But apparently knew. Apparently
he knew something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he knew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely well, Eric, thank you so much for coming out.
I'm not checking with a few other people, but uh man,
thank you so much.
Speaker 2: What a what a great encounter. Thank you all right, man.
Speaker 3: Nice talking. You have a good day, all right, brother, thank.
Speaker 2: You all right, what a great first chat. We've got
a ton of people on. Come up. I see my
friend Wade is in here.
Speaker 1: Wade, Yes, yeah, I did get diagnosed with cancer about
a week ago. So we are working through that, trusting
in God, and your prayers are appreciated. So we're gonna
We're gonna take it out. So I'm glad to see
you here. Wait when is my next trip? Right now,
no trips are scheduled. We are focusing on I just
got to cancer diagnosis about a week ago, so we
are getting past that first and then we will get
back out there.
Speaker 2: So, hey, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: How are you good? It was great, great talking to
you yesterday. It was fun. Let me so do you
for this? Do you do you like going by?
Speaker 3: Literally?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can call me Edie Edie okay, perfect, awesome.
So for people that weren't here yesterday, you are with
ib ro O in Indiana, Indiana, and you had some
really amazing accounts from the Morgan Monroe Stay Forest, which
is south of Indianapolis, and it sounds like you might
have something else to share as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, I have so many stories. I
know yesterday I was talking about the point where I
wasn't afraid of them anymore, and that I had gotten
a recording and it was the recording that stopped me
from being terrified of them and more understanding, and from
then on, if we heard something in the forest, I
was the one in the group that went into the
forest and all of the guys are like.
Speaker 3: What is going on?
Speaker 4: Where is she going? Because I just don't have a
fear of them. But what had happened is during the
i'd say spring, summer, fall into early winter, we'd camp
every single weekend to research. And during the cold winter
months the campground that we liked to use is always closed,
so what we would do is we would go up
park by the road and hike down to the area
in the campground where we'd set up. We'd have a
fire and everything. And this was I can't remember if
it was late February early March, but it was pretty cold.
We had snow on the ground. I think the tenth
was like three or four degrees, so we were, you know,
had our winter jumpsuits on, the whole thing. And it
was myself, my ex and another member of the IBRO
and we set up. Oh, it's probably about ten eleven
o'clock at night. And because we knew kind of like
their what their winter pattern was, and we noticed in
the wintertime they're more active during moonless nights than they
are when the moonshining because of shadows and whatnot. So
we went out and it didn't start getting wild until
probably about one o'clock in the morning, and that's when
we heard the typical female howl, and that was usually
followed up by coyotes barking and yipping after she would howl,
and they would move clockwise around the outer perimeter of
the of the I don't know if you want to
call it a park, state forest, what have you. And
so we heard that and everything, and then it quieted down,
so probably about between two two thirty in the morning,
we decided to go ahead and get packed up, so we,
you know, put out the fire, got all of our equipment,
put in the backpacks and everything, and just as we
had started walking up, there was a howl that was
so close every hair on my body stood up. It
was so close it couldn't have been any more than
forty fifty feet away. And immediately we took off running
because we had to run all the way up the
gravel road to get to where our cars were parked
outside the barricade by the road. And I mean, I've
never seen men run so fast in my life. But
we got up there, we got in the cars and everything,
and our friend from Ibroro when it had and took
off and we were sitting there and my ex goes, oh, crap,
and I'm like what He's like, I left the recorders
down there, so I was like, He's like, well, I
could always come back and get him in the morning.
I said, we're supposed to have rain in the morning
when it starts warming up, and he's like, well shoot.
So we turned on the headlights and he walked all
the way down. He retrieved him got home. I was like,
I've got to see if we picked up that howl,
because it was so close, and so I went ahead
and hooked it up and brought it up on the
computer and started listening to it, and sure enough, not
only did it catch that howl as soon and it
was one of those where he started low, went up high,
and then went back down low again. After that, the
bigfoot started talking, and like I said, it sounded almost
like a native American language, and he spoke for about
thirty seconds, and at the end he made this ooh
kind of noise, and I just I kept playing it
over and over and over, and it was almost to me,
it sounded like a yearning, like don't leave. I was
enjoying watching you. It didn't sound aggressive or anything even
the how was more of a rather than a growl
or anything of that nature. So I listened over and
over and over, and I said, they're not here to
hurt us. And so I talked to the IBr O,
and we had somebody in the group who was a
linguist for the United States Army and who does a
lot of the recordings for finding Bigfoot, and he said,
send it to me. So I went ahead and send
it to him, and he said, you one hundred percent
caught a sasquatch. And he said that that language at
the end, that is the word they used for human.
And I was kind of blown away, but he, like
I said, he does a lot of that. And like
I suggest yesterday, I have I still have the recording.
I would I don't know if I could pull it
up on my phone, if if I played it, if
you could hear it or not?
Speaker 2: Okay, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, because it's it's in my I have it up
on my Google what you call it? And like I said,
this happened in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, and I have
kept it that long. But it's of course it has
been you know, kind of cleaned up to kind of
raise the sound a little bit, but you can hear
him speaking very very clearly. And like I said, from
that moment on, I was no longer scared, because when
they're that close to you, even if they're chasing you
out of the forest, as big as they are, as
fast as they are, if they want to hurt you,
they can hurt you. You better believe they could hurt you.
And being that close a proximity and that howl being
so close that I could feel it in my chest
and they didn't hurt us. And from then on is
when I completely changed how I saw them and everything,
and that it was shortly after that that I started
writing the books. But I don't know. All I know
is if I if I put the thing, if I
minimize my screen, it causes the sound to be delayed.
So I maybe after you bring somebody else on, I
can go ahead bring it up and have it ready
and try to play it.
Speaker 2: We could try that or or I mean, if you're
up for it, I could.
Speaker 1: You could even send it to me an email. Yeah,
I mean, it wouldn't be live, but I could. I
could check it out. You could send it to my
email's big Foot Society at gmail dot com and then
then I could at least hear it. I know it
wouldn't be live, but you know, then I could check
it out. I really would like to hear it, but
totally up to what you're willing to do there.
Speaker 4: We'd love to share it with you, because, like I said,
we have done it. We have shared it at many
places that we have spoke. We've spoke libraries all around Indiana,
and we did a a paranormal convention and we've played
it there and it is it's just I don't know.
I just like it told me said, there are very
few recordings like this out there, and that's something that
I've just held near and dear to my heart because
I feel lucky.
Speaker 2: Too about it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of any activity out in Turkey
Run State Park?
Speaker 4: I have. Actually, my daughter was out there a couple
of weekends ago. She said she didn't hear anything, but
she saw signs that they were around.
Speaker 2: Cool. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: I had an interview once and she it's like, want
to go in through your portal and seeing a family
a big foot and it was a very intense story.
But I've heard from a few people that Turkey Run
has had some things happen around it, But Indiana is
just I mean, and then down in who's your National Forest,
there's I mean, further south you go, it seems to
get crazier.
Speaker 4: But yeah, well we have a lot of limestone. We
have a lot of underground caves and tunnels and things
like that that I know that that's where a lot
of the places where they're hiding. That's just the way
I believe it. And a lot of people don't realize
that Indiana is not flat. We don't have mountains that
you hit a certain point in central Indiana going south
that it's like there are so many hills and valleys
and everything that it's it's a lot more rustic and
so many forests and everything that people realize.
Speaker 3: That we have.
Speaker 2: Right exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been to south and southern Indiana at
least once and it was very eye opening.
Speaker 2: Is it possible, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it even possible to try to play the recording
right now? I think you said if you try and
may have a delay, But.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm just if I lose contact with you,
you know why. But I'm going to go ahead and
bring that and see if I can play it, give
it a try.
Speaker 2: Here we go, So right now we.
Speaker 1: Are giving Ed a few minutes to see if she
can track down her recording of a bigfoot from Indiana. Guys,
if you have thank you to everyone for being here.
If you have a bigfoot encounter you'd like to share,
go ahead and hit one of those plus signs there
and it'll put you in the list for me to
check in with. I've got about ten people waiting to
come up, and thank you for everyone for being patient.
We've been talking to some fun individuals, which is really
good encounters in the last few days.
Speaker 2: So good stuff.
Speaker 4: Okay, can you still hear me? I guess I don't
know if I can play it at the same time
or not.
Speaker 2: No sweat. Now, I'll keep an eye on my email. Done,
no problem.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you really hear it or not.
Speaker 1: Nope, nope, So I will keep an eye on my email.
But thank you for trying b D. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's not a problem. The what was the
email again, so I don't.
Speaker 2: Is Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: Okay, what I'll do is I'll shoot that to you
really quick. What I'll probably just give you the link
so you can download it. Then that way you can
listen to it with headphones on or whatever. There's a
lot of staticky in it, but if you just keep listening,
you will hear You'll hear the Hall at the beginning
very clearly, and then the way through you can hear
him very clearly speaking. And if you can figure out
a way to share it on here, you're more than
welcome to.
Speaker 2: Oh perfectly on the podcast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can want to let you do.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much for Edie. I'm going to
check in with a few other people wanting to come up.
But I appreciate you talking again today.
Speaker 2: That was fun.
Speaker 4: Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
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