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Speaker 1: Minatti and with me.
Speaker 2: Is Sean Turboshawn McDowell.
Speaker 1: Today, World of Warcraft, unionized SAG after a strike and
Speaker 1: a fighting game characters draft. Sean, thank you for stepping
Speaker 1: in here. Jeff has a bug problem or.
Speaker 2: Something bug problem? Yeah, no, no major emergency everyone, but
Speaker 2: definitely something that's good to keep them busy for the
Speaker 2: rest of the night. Probably, right.
Speaker 1: So Grub's dealing with grubs basically, is what we're saying. Yes,
Speaker 1: but that's okay because you know what does Jeff Grubb
Speaker 1: know about unions and strikes? Anyways, that's not But don't
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Speaker 1: a YouTube member or Twitch subscriber. Ah, how's it going, Sean.
Speaker 2: I'm tired, Mike too, Me too. I didn't get a
Speaker 2: weekend last weekend, so you know, I've basically been NonStop
Speaker 2: for the past coming up on two weeks now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of how I felt last week, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Oh, you had a business trip recently too, right.
Speaker 1: Right, And I was so bad, like when one of
Speaker 1: the business trips involved being in Disneyland to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm tired, but you know, Disneyland can be tiring. I
Speaker 1: suppose It's not like I was sitting at a beach
Speaker 1: and it was a busy week. It's a busy week
Speaker 1: despite I don't know, the gaming war wasn't particularly busy
Speaker 1: itself per se, But.
Speaker 2: You know, I was doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: I was trying to help out, like an extra amounts
Speaker 1: on Giant Bomb this week, because some people were out
Speaker 1: right and it was fun, but I did. I did
Speaker 1: do a lot. So I'm feeling a little ragged right now.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, but that's all right, be
Speaker 1: productive while we can. And there's you know, it's all
Speaker 1: fun stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I use because I still play Pokemon Go.
Speaker 2: I use Pokemon Go as a step counter since I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not like a health junkie. I'm not constantly
Speaker 2: keeping track of that stuff. But when I got home
Speaker 2: and like checked my steps, I had walked fifty six
Speaker 2: kilometers that week, which is twice as much as I Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have no idea how my miles, as nobody can help,
Speaker 2: but it's twice as much as I usually walk as
Speaker 2: someone who walks everywhere because I don't have a car,
Speaker 2: so that I think really says that about my steps
Speaker 2: I put in at EVO and like Vegas in general
Speaker 2: in just the past. Yeah, a week being very crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh for sure I did. I did at
Speaker 1: least like I was in a bit of a funk too,
Speaker 1: like just like kind of like like a little bit
Speaker 1: so then I've been taking too many naps. Today I
Speaker 1: at least like ran again, but because like I hadn't
Speaker 1: run in a week. It was not a great run,
Speaker 1: but at least I got out there and I did
Speaker 1: that and I didn't take a freaking nap. But it
Speaker 1: is like I did that. Then I was like, I
Speaker 1: you know, I finished work. I did that, I cooked
Speaker 1: diner down, was like time for the next podcast.
Speaker 2: Almost thirty five miles, by the way.
Speaker 1: Oh geez, that's a lot of those.
Speaker 2: It's a lot. Yeah, it was just a lot of
Speaker 2: miles going all over the convention hall. That was. That
Speaker 2: was a lot of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder what my steps were on my Disneyland day
Speaker 1: because I was, you know, on my seat. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: always a lot. It's always a lot. Some parks like
Speaker 1: Epicod It's it's worse because there's a lot of ground cover.
Speaker 1: I was like I was on the tail end. I
Speaker 1: was like tapering off my steroids. So I still felt
Speaker 1: really good, and I am worried I'll become a mortal
Speaker 1: man again the next time I'm in a park or
Speaker 1: a big trip like that. We'll see, all right, we
Speaker 1: got some topics here to talk about, starting with the
Speaker 1: sag affors call strike against the major vide game companies
Speaker 1: after nearly two years of contract talks. That headline is
Speaker 1: from Deadline, as is this little clip from their story.
Speaker 1: The decision to hit the picket lines comes ten months
Speaker 1: after the union's initial strike authorization vote. The strike goes
Speaker 1: INTOFECT July twenty six at twelve one am. The ten
Speaker 1: companies facing the strike are Activision, Blizzard, blind Light, Disney
Speaker 1: Character Voices, Electronic Arts Productions, Epic Games for most of
Speaker 1: interactive Insomniac Games, take to Productions, Voice Work Productions, and
Speaker 1: w B games. A lot of this has to do
Speaker 1: with kind of arguing over, hey, what's you We're gonna
Speaker 1: get paid for AI stuff, right and maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit right, so's that's a lot of this. It's kind
Speaker 1: of complicated stuff, and you know, the whole AI aspect,
Speaker 1: especially I think it's so. I think that's a big
Speaker 1: impetus for why we're going to see a lot more
Speaker 1: organizing and strikes and things like that in a lot
Speaker 1: of these creative industries. And you know, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: the unions and games here soon, but I think AI
Speaker 1: is also pushing a lot of people to freak out
Speaker 1: more than usual and finally kind of get them over
Speaker 1: that there where a lot of people maybe weren't comfortable
Speaker 1: with unions or strikes or things like that, and now
Speaker 1: they're suddenly really seeing a need to do these kinds
Speaker 1: of things. I don't know, Sean, any takes here, Oh.
Speaker 2: I mean my big takeaway is like this is a
Speaker 2: sign that unions would be working. Is if they are,
Speaker 2: you know, going on strike, that means they are they
Speaker 2: do have solidarity together, which ultimately is a good thing.
Speaker 2: If it you know, impacts workflow of the entertainment that
Speaker 2: we like, that's just you know, necessary to make sure
Speaker 2: that everyone's getting what they deserve and all this. Man,
Speaker 2: Jeff definitely wouldn't be a better person for this topic
Speaker 2: than me. But thinking back to say, like the various
Speaker 2: entertainment strikes that you know, something like this has happened
Speaker 2: like TV and whatnot. Like, sure it sucked if something
Speaker 2: like a project gets slowed down or something, but it's
Speaker 2: it's what you need to do to make sure that
Speaker 2: people are getting their fair share. Like I said, AI
Speaker 2: is playing a big role in this, and we do
Speaker 2: need to make sure that artists are taking us stand
Speaker 2: against AI as in one, they're using their likenesses without
Speaker 2: their permission, things like that, or scummy contracts that put
Speaker 2: them in a position where, oh, you provide your voice
Speaker 2: work a little bit and then we can AI from
Speaker 2: here on out. They if that's the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that is affecting why they would be going to strengthen
Speaker 2: I'm all for it because I fuck all of that.
Speaker 2: You know, pay people what they're worth and everything so right,
Speaker 2: and I I see this as like a good thing broadly,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably, yeah, certainly a good thing. And I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I hope that I think the voice actors
Speaker 1: should be in a position of strength because a lot
Speaker 1: of these companies have these ongoing games where they need
Speaker 1: to call on these people who to do voice work
Speaker 1: kind of every once in a while. It's not just
Speaker 1: the one time gig anymore. And I think that's maybe
Speaker 1: the temptation of something like you know, AI voices. We
Speaker 1: saw the Finals do something like that, Right, It's like, well,
Speaker 1: instead of getting this person back in the studio to record,
Speaker 1: you know, you know of a few more lines, we
Speaker 1: can just use the AI and you know, we'll use
Speaker 1: AI of their voice, so it'll be fine. It's like, eh, no,
Speaker 1: how about not or if you're going to do that,
Speaker 1: you better compensate them very fairly for that. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's complicated. It's interesting to see the list of games here
Speaker 1: because even like Insomniac Right is on there, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they are doing voice work recordings right
Speaker 1: now for things like Wolverine and Beyond right, And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if like a delay and voice recording
Speaker 1: can delay that game a whole lot, but it could
Speaker 1: be a roadblock, and you think they would want to
Speaker 1: avoid that. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: long this takes to get resolved and hopefully for the
Speaker 1: benefits of the voice actors. But yeah, somewhar kind of
Speaker 1: thing here. A World of Warcraft team of about five
Speaker 1: our employees have unionized. And this was just a day
Speaker 1: after Microsoft Microsoft's but as the game studios unionized, both
Speaker 1: of these are actually under Microsoft right now. You know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because Xbox kind of had to say before
Speaker 1: right during those hearings and another things that like are
Speaker 1: before the hearings to kind of like you know, get
Speaker 1: that Activision Blizzard deal through and other things. It was
Speaker 1: at one point mentioned like oh yeah, well respect anybody
Speaker 1: who wants to you know, unionize, and we'll see those things.
Speaker 1: So it's not shocking to see them kind of be
Speaker 1: housing the first of these and what might be a wave.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that wave is going to be contained
Speaker 1: within the world of Xbox and Microsoft or if it's
Speaker 1: going to expand. But you know, Bethesda is interesting or
Speaker 1: a Warcraft is also really interesting because they're in a
Speaker 1: big position of strength right now. I think they are
Speaker 1: about to They're coming off a successful expansion and they
Speaker 1: are about to release an anticipated expansion with the war within.
Speaker 1: The prepatch for that just came out, So yeah, they're
Speaker 1: at a position of strength. This is probably a good
Speaker 1: time to do that. But yeah, Sean, you think that
Speaker 1: we're gonna be seeing this wave kind of wash over
Speaker 1: the industry throughout the rest of the summer.
Speaker 2: Oh I sure hope so, because let me tell you,
Speaker 2: union is definitely something I do know about. Everyone needs
Speaker 2: to unionize where it makes sense for them to do so,
Speaker 2: because it's what gets you protections and gets you, you know, solidarity.
Speaker 2: Like we mentioned in the previous topic when Jeff was
Speaker 2: covering this in Game as Mornings, I believe today I
Speaker 2: was looking at the article as I was helping out
Speaker 2: with stuff, and I saw that it's what this is.
Speaker 2: They are the only fully unionized team at Activision Blizzard,
Speaker 2: and they are now the biggest team unionized within the
Speaker 2: Microsoft umbrella. So I think this sets a really good
Speaker 2: precedent for everything for everyone else who may have been
Speaker 2: thinking about this and you know there have been hesitations
Speaker 2: or complications or anything like that. I think this is
Speaker 2: a good sign that hey, even a big team can
Speaker 2: do it. That means you can do it too. We
Speaker 2: can all work together to make sure that we're all,
Speaker 2: you know, hanging in this together. I really like to
Speaker 2: see that.
Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of yeah, it's called a world
Speaker 4: to world union with like pretty much every person regardless
Speaker 4: of like right wrong. Yeah, And this doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: it's not going to be like people getting fired and
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, you know, but it does mean
Speaker 4: that if somebody gets fired, they are least going to
Speaker 4: have like some of their benefits like taking care of
Speaker 4: or like they're gonna have some power to negotiated like
Speaker 4: the the higher apps and that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 4: it's not like one solution to like whatever fuck is
Speaker 4: going on with the industry, but it's a really really
Speaker 4: strong tool for them to use.
Speaker 2: Exactly like we saw this with sort of related the
Speaker 2: I g and Creators Guild when someone was like, go
Speaker 2: there over at IGN or what it was that three people,
Speaker 2: I believe three people a handful of people, I forget
Speaker 2: the exact number. But when they were basically like, let
Speaker 2: go unfairly within the uh, you know, union of reemant
Speaker 2: that they had between the employee employees and IGN, they
Speaker 2: were like collectively as a group on their ass about it,
Speaker 2: constantly saying like, hey, we need to negotiate this thing
Speaker 2: because is what we agreed to, or your labor force
Speaker 2: is going to have problems. And I think I don't
Speaker 2: know if everything worked out exactly the way they want
Speaker 2: to there, but the very least they got, you know,
Speaker 2: to the table and got something rather than nothing. And
Speaker 2: that's why you unionize is because if your employer is
Speaker 2: going to be scummy about stuff, you collectively can work
Speaker 2: together to try and work some of this out for
Speaker 2: the people who are being affected by these things.
Speaker 1: And blizzards had layoff before, they will have them again,
Speaker 1: so it's good to kind of protect yourself around this game. Then,
Speaker 1: you know, the industry is still suffering from this. There
Speaker 1: was you know, Humble Games, the publisher that was owned
Speaker 1: by is If Davis. You know, there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of like a weird saga there this week whereas you know,
Speaker 1: the first report was like, yeah, just completely gone, and
Speaker 1: then they was like, well, it's restructuring. It's like, well
Speaker 1: you're restructuring by firing everybody, so right, so you know,
Speaker 1: it's a basically gutted that studio, but trying to find
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're trying to still publish a few
Speaker 1: remaining games that were going on there. I know, like
Speaker 1: the layoff season doesn't seem as rough as it maybe
Speaker 1: was earlier in this year, but it's still there and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're still just a headline away from another
Speaker 1: very massive, nasty one popping. Uh it's head up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: unionized now uionized later. Probably better to do it sooner
Speaker 1: than later, though definitely legacy of Kine Sorry Ever, wanted
Speaker 1: to remaster branding has been seen at San Diego Comic
Speaker 1: coming off this is It's so funny because it literally
Speaker 1: is just like one of those like glass case displays
Speaker 1: and it's like you know, RAZIAU and Caine like static figures,
Speaker 1: and then like the little like plaque for it. Thing
Speaker 1: like the card with the QR code just has a
Speaker 1: logo for a legacy of Quane's So Reaver one and
Speaker 1: two remastered.
Speaker 2: I'm not just like basic text, No, like they made
Speaker 2: a little go for this, so it's something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it just totally sees like some toy partner
Speaker 1: just didn't get the memo that this hadn't been announced yet.
Speaker 1: It just kind of threw it out there. I would
Speaker 1: love to hear if it's still on display or if
Speaker 1: somebody like hurried up and covered it up. But hey,
Speaker 1: this makes a lot of sense. There's still a lot
Speaker 1: of funness for those games. It's a little difficult to
Speaker 1: make a new one of those, but remastering Sorry Ever
Speaker 1: one and two absolutely and you know we had you know,
Speaker 1: the tomb Raider remesters recently. I can imagine this being
Speaker 1: a pretty similar project in terms of scale and scope
Speaker 1: and we get from it, and I think those tomb
Speaker 1: raidery masters are pretty good. So yeah, I'm a I
Speaker 1: would be happy to uh see this. I played. I
Speaker 1: played Story for One a bit back to the day.
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to get back to it. I do
Speaker 1: want to play through it again. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're familiarity with the series is sean.
Speaker 2: Very little at one point because what this one of
Speaker 2: them was on at least one of them was on
Speaker 2: Dreamcast correct.
Speaker 1: The first Yeah, I actually played Story for One on Dreamcast.
Speaker 1: It was you know, it's a PlayStation one game, but
Speaker 1: it had a Dreamcast port, so that's where I knew it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one night where let's just save me and my
Speaker 2: buddy went to Walmart and bought a big old stack
Speaker 2: of CDRs. We were trying a whole bunch of different stuff.
Speaker 2: And now, yeah, Lexia Kane was one of them where
Speaker 2: you know, we checked out for a little bit and
Speaker 2: it's it seemed interesting. It didn't like immediately click was
Speaker 2: in that we kept playing, But it is saying that
Speaker 2: I later revisited because it was like a some version
Speaker 2: of it was a free giveaway at some point somewhere
Speaker 2: or something like that, and I was like, Okay, I see,
Speaker 2: I see there's there's something here that I understand why
Speaker 2: people would like It's what's someone in the vein of
Speaker 2: maybe and action adventure games.
Speaker 1: I would say, how I would put it with, you know,
Speaker 1: a very kind of unique aesthetic, right, that kind of
Speaker 1: gothic vampire e underworld vibe.
Speaker 2: So I definitely can see why, you know, people will
Speaker 2: fall in love with it back in the day. And
Speaker 2: I just like that more games are getting remastered, preserved
Speaker 2: and like made more accessible. You know, we got the
Speaker 2: NBC Collection coming out sometime soon here, and that's the
Speaker 2: kind of thing where you know, it is okay, that
Speaker 2: is just those old games presented in a way that
Speaker 2: is sort of the definitive collection version. That's what they're
Speaker 2: doing here, especially if it's something a little more updated,
Speaker 2: like yeah, like you were saying the tomb Raider remasters recently,
Speaker 2: like that would be neat to kind of just have
Speaker 2: this version that you can point people towards if you say, yeah,
Speaker 2: this you know, kind of random old game that I'm
Speaker 2: coming into guess why. It's just on your switch or whatever,
Speaker 2: and it's very easy for you just download try it out,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, that's something for us to talk
Speaker 2: about now. I think that's really cool.
Speaker 1: Right again, Like that's those tourm Rader remasters. There's like
Speaker 1: an option to switch to newer graphics. But it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: it looks like some modern Triple A thing. It's just
Speaker 1: like it's running at sixty fps and it's smoother textures.
Speaker 1: It's like new models and textures. But it almost is
Speaker 1: kind of like it looks like a Dreamcast game instead
Speaker 1: of a PlayStation in one game, even though again those
Speaker 1: keeps had Dreamcast Sports, but like made for Dreamcast, I suppose,
Speaker 1: and like there's like an option for more modern controls, right,
Speaker 1: things like that. Uh yeah, so I think that'll be
Speaker 1: the scale here. I'm a little I'm a little sad
Speaker 1: this doesn't seem to be including the first Legacy of
Speaker 1: Kane game, which where you actually play as Kane and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like yabo like and it was actually
Speaker 1: freaking Silicon Nights that made that fun. Not here, right,
Speaker 1: Silicon Knights made that, and then uh, Crystal Dynamics came
Speaker 1: in andto.
Speaker 4: That legacy blood blood Amend means I think I think
Speaker 4: they're called blood Amend those the once you're talking.
Speaker 1: About that's le blood Omen. Yeah, and then you had
Speaker 1: these two games, and then there was a blood Omen two,
Speaker 1: and then there's like a weird game where you play
Speaker 1: as everybody with the word soul in it. It is
Speaker 1: kind of weird because there's all these sequels. I really
Speaker 1: only ever hear people talk much about the first story.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't even know much about Solaver too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like some disappointing sequel or
Speaker 1: if it just kind of gets lumped in there.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I knew there was a Soul Reaver
Speaker 2: two up until now.
Speaker 1: It Defiance is the other one. But you know, this
Speaker 1: was kind of where Amy Henning, who would later you know,
Speaker 1: do in charge. This is where she made her name,
Speaker 1: was doing the stories for these games. Right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's interesting for that part helone. And who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe Amy had to get to work on a game
Speaker 1: that actually comes out against some day.
Speaker 2: Wait, I was I was.
Speaker 4: Googled the Google Ladyacy of Kine and remember Noscot that
Speaker 4: multiplayer that never came out, Like, do you remember.
Speaker 2: I played that? I played a beta for that.
Speaker 1: That's right, they did do that. But what a hideous name.
Speaker 1: I don't like saying the word nos Go. It sounds
Speaker 1: like the name of a tenant and lord of the rings,
Speaker 1: like this nas GoF the the filer. Right he brought
Speaker 1: it up?
Speaker 3: Uh uh.
Speaker 1: Stalcer Too has been delayed from September fifth to November twentieth.
Speaker 1: A deep dive video for developers coming in on August twelfth.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder why this could be happening, Mike, Yeah, right.
Speaker 1: It's not some big show, although they didn't mentioned like
Speaker 1: bug squashes is a big part of it here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, I think a lot of people wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been surprised if this game got delayed to twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: So the fact that it just got delayed a couple
Speaker 1: of months not some not some big deal. It's still
Speaker 1: gonna come out this year, so that's nice. And again
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a deep dive video on August twelve,
Speaker 1: excuse me, where we'll get to see board of this game.
Speaker 1: So that's good. I'm I'm happiest game is coming out
Speaker 1: I'm never business.
Speaker 2: This felt like something that easily could have been canceled,
Speaker 2: and considering considering circumstances, like the fact that it's kind
Speaker 2: of just maybe behind schedule a little bit, is maybe
Speaker 2: a miracle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's completely fine. So yeah, if you ever been
Speaker 1: much of a Stalker person, I haven't really, and I
Speaker 1: kind of feel bad I haven't played these games.
Speaker 2: Definitely not. No, it's more something where, like you know,
Speaker 2: a big digital foundry fan like Alex over there, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about it a healthy amount when like it comes
Speaker 2: up in the news. And that's sort of how I've
Speaker 2: been absorbing the Stalkers series. Uh. We watched that one
Speaker 2: Xbox presentation over at GB a while back where they
Speaker 2: had the remastered collection or whatever. I remember us all
Speaker 2: kind of be like, huh that really touched these before,
Speaker 2: have we?
Speaker 1: That's it's us like a collective thing with all of us.
Speaker 2: Like I really played these games, which I guess is
Speaker 2: why they did do a re release.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, right, Yeah, it makes sense, and you
Speaker 1: know they'd be maybe I should get into those there.
Speaker 4: But so yeah, if you like, like I don't know,
Speaker 4: Fallout three, that kind of vibe, but more like more
Speaker 4: dark more europe seriously than yeah more yeah, more Eastern European.
Speaker 4: That yes, Stalker is the ship.
Speaker 2: I don't maybe worth checking out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know about then you one. To be honest, I'm
Speaker 4: not very comme bens by the gameplay show. It looks
Speaker 4: too action for me.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look to oh okay, yeah, maybe you'll have
Speaker 1: to watch the developer deep dive and you'll let us
Speaker 1: know if you're one over. Armored Core six Fires of
Speaker 1: Rubicon has sold over three million units. So this was
Speaker 1: announced on Twitter.
Speaker 2: You know, I was gonna say, like, just did you
Speaker 2: pull this from Twitter hashtag Armored Corps?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Hey, look I'm gonna look, I'm copying pasting here.
Speaker 1: Ah yay. I think this is good, dudes, honest, it's
Speaker 1: you know, if you try to compare this to like
Speaker 1: an Out and Ring or even some other Souls games,
Speaker 1: that might seem like a lowish number, but when you
Speaker 1: think about other Armored Core games or just you know
Speaker 1: mech combat games in general, three million is very good,
Speaker 1: and I think it's something this industry is going to
Speaker 1: come to terms with, is being happy with games that
Speaker 1: can sell two to three million copies as long as
Speaker 1: they are scoped to sell two or three million copies.
Speaker 2: That is a very important distinction there, I suppose, because
Speaker 2: we always say, like, you know, it's okay for a
Speaker 2: game to not sell as much, but it needs to
Speaker 2: be something that is targeting a smaller number. You're definitely
Speaker 2: right that one, because it can't it can't be a
Speaker 2: disappointment in that case.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, this game is very spiffy or like,
Speaker 1: it does look and feel expensive, but it doesn't have
Speaker 1: things like you know, human character models or you know,
Speaker 1: cut scenes with human characters, right, you know, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to do things like you know, facial capture
Speaker 1: and you know, facial animation and things like that, which
Speaker 1: which maybe helps here. Its just and it is like,
Speaker 1: you know, big open levels, but levels is not some
Speaker 1: big open world or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Is that is why I appealed to me a little
Speaker 2: bit more than the average up from software game, because
Speaker 2: as I've mentioned before, I'm just not Soul's guy in general,
Speaker 2: so anything related to that I've never been into. Tried
Speaker 2: Skaro for a little while. I thought it was neat.
Speaker 2: I like that more, and even blood Worm, which I
Speaker 2: also thought was neat but not really for me. Arbord
Speaker 2: Core was doing a lot for me. I did spend
Speaker 2: a few hours with it, at least, I know it's
Speaker 2: not very long, but even then, I probably only spent
Speaker 2: like three or four hours on it before putting it
Speaker 2: down because I was kind of just like something about
Speaker 2: the presentation did like really not do much for me.
Speaker 2: The fact that you aren't talking to like people, You're
Speaker 2: sort of doing like radio chatter and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that was not great for me. I don't know,
Speaker 2: there's a disconnect there where you're watching robots on like
Speaker 2: very gray backgrounds and stuff, and so I could have
Speaker 2: used something to live up a little bit more, but.
Speaker 1: It was the codec call faces at least. Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I at least used animated codec calls or something
Speaker 2: to liven it up, just to touch but I'm happy
Speaker 2: to see that like something that is, you know, theoretically
Speaker 2: a little more niche than say, your average Soul's game. Nowadays,
Speaker 2: it was doing pretty well, especially I did manage to
Speaker 2: find some sales numbers here. It looks like the next
Speaker 2: best selling one was the original at I believe this
Speaker 2: is one of those charts where the numbers are presented
Speaker 2: and weird, but I believe that is one point four
Speaker 2: million for the original Armored Corps. Well, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty well there at.
Speaker 1: That time, that was a huge hit for them compared
Speaker 1: to you know, whatever Kingsfield was selling. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: good good stuff for from software. I like this game
Speaker 1: a lot. I was really happy with Armored Cores six,
Speaker 1: so you know, I hope you either get some beefy
Speaker 1: from software style DLC for it, but even more and
Speaker 1: more than that, I hope and I expect some day
Speaker 1: we are going to just get an Armored Corps seven
Speaker 1: and who knows, you know, just like how the you know,
Speaker 1: Souls games kind of had to slowly build up to
Speaker 1: being these odor ring sized behemoths. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I think Armored Corps ever going to sell thirty million
Speaker 1: copies or anything like that, but you can build on this.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe Armored Corps seven is gonna come out
Speaker 1: and that's going to sell five million copies, for example.
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be too surprised if this is about
Speaker 1: where this series kind of rests now and forever, and
Speaker 1: that's fine too. I think the game gaming is better
Speaker 1: for having Armored Corps in it, Mike.
Speaker 4: I saw you playing I so you playing Dark Souls one.
Speaker 4: Are you gonna play the older or more core?
Speaker 1: I mean I might some day for funzies. I actually
Speaker 1: I have gotten a couple of them as I've been
Speaker 1: out collecting games here in there, and you know, I
Speaker 1: remember looking up which ones people think are like the
Speaker 1: good ones? Uh? I like people like three. There's there's
Speaker 1: like not an expansion for four, but there's like a
Speaker 1: four standalone kind of thing that people like, and then
Speaker 1: five not so much. I forget. At one point I
Speaker 1: had researched this.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're picking up Armored Corps one would
Speaker 2: sort of be like on brand, like checking that out
Speaker 2: for a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would be interesting, right because you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is like a lot of that
Speaker 1: stuff is there, but it is also very archaic and
Speaker 1: sometimes I like that our case, that's it. But Armored
Speaker 1: Core four answer is ones. That was the one that
Speaker 1: people do like.
Speaker 2: Just for three.
Speaker 1: I see, yeah, all right, that's if for our new stories.
Speaker 3: Wrong.
Speaker 1: We take a quick break here, then we got some
Speaker 1: super chats to look at. Sounds good, and we are back. Sean,
Speaker 1: would you please read the super chats absolutely.
Speaker 2: First up here from Simon st I'm thinking about picking
Speaker 2: up a roger Ally X, mostly for Fall, Fantasy fourteen
Speaker 2: and Steam games, but also some productivity tasks like word processing.
Speaker 2: Would be okay for that? Or should I get a
Speaker 2: Steam Deck and keep it separate? Oh? Interesting question. So
Speaker 2: you want to use it basically like a gaming laptop
Speaker 2: on the form factor of a handheld.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would be. You know, again, it
Speaker 1: just has Windows, so it'd be completely fine with all
Speaker 1: of that. Battery life might be a concern if you
Speaker 1: think you're not going to be able to keep it
Speaker 1: plugged in a lot, because you know, the thing with
Speaker 1: the the battery life on the Steam Deck is kind
Speaker 1: of variable depending what you're doing on the roger Ally.
Speaker 1: Maybe the X is better with this. I think it
Speaker 1: is supposed to be better, but even still it's not.
Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be more than one hour,
Speaker 1: but that might mean like three hours for I think
Speaker 1: people might actually know.
Speaker 2: I thinks right, as long as you're like yeah, but
Speaker 2: as long as you're are you talking for gaming or productivity?
Speaker 1: Well, the thing with raw that the Ally is it
Speaker 1: seems like no matter what I do, that battery dreams
Speaker 1: at the same rate, although I haven't done a lot
Speaker 1: of like I'm just using the word press or right.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, doesn't matter if I'm doing
Speaker 1: Persona three reload or I'm playing Bloodstained, right, it's still
Speaker 1: an hour.
Speaker 2: Okay. Interesting because Steam Yeah, Steam deck is very good
Speaker 2: at managing how much processing and power it needs, and
Speaker 2: you can also very easily change how much uh watted
Speaker 2: you're giving the process or which you can do on
Speaker 2: the ally as well. It is just not quite as
Speaker 2: easy I.
Speaker 3: Think for this.
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm assuming Simon would like be using its stationary
Speaker 2: docked if it if they were using it for something like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, with some light work tasks. So maybe they
Speaker 2: just want to like maybe they don't have a desktop
Speaker 2: PC and they want to be like a middle ground
Speaker 2: between uh, a low end laptop and a desktop. And
Speaker 2: that's the case. I actually think, you know what, that
Speaker 2: would be good for that because once you dock that thing,
Speaker 2: it is going to just operate like a Windows PC
Speaker 2: and one with decent power, you know, more than the
Speaker 2: average laptop, but not as much as like a dedicated
Speaker 2: gaming machine. But for reaching that middle ground, I think
Speaker 2: you would be fine there because I have used my
Speaker 2: steam Deck for some productivity, so some light stuff just
Speaker 2: docking it and then like plugging them into my monitor
Speaker 2: when I like a brought it with me to multiple
Speaker 2: events now and just the rare occasion I do need
Speaker 2: to switch to our desktop mode, and like I'm familiar
Speaker 2: with Linux, so it's no problem. Yeah, worked great. So
Speaker 2: if so as you know what you're getting into there,
Speaker 2: I think it could be good for you there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and foul fancy fourteen specifically, like you know, with
Speaker 1: the rock Alley, because it's just Windows, it's easier to
Speaker 1: get on there than steam Deck. It's not some big
Speaker 1: hassle doing steam Deck, but there are hoops you have
Speaker 1: to go through unless you're just running that Steam version,
Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people aren't. With fourteen.
Speaker 1: It depends.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for fourteen specifically, I've been playing in it
Speaker 2: on my steam Deck and as long as you are
Speaker 2: a controller player like I am, it just works great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it kind yeah, I kind of wise, you
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about like having the Steam version
Speaker 4: of the game. You should buy the regular version. And
Speaker 4: she just don't love the lunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have a non Steam account. You can
Speaker 2: just especially if you like add it to Steam, they'll
Speaker 2: like do a lot for you as well. But even
Speaker 2: like if you're cool with using something like fourteen Launcher,
Speaker 2: that'll they'll do a lot for you as well. It's
Speaker 2: not a huge assle, no big first story. Seven says
Speaker 2: stream TMNT splintered fate.
Speaker 1: Well, is that that Turtles game?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The Turtles? What rogue?
Speaker 1: Like haitis, Like, yeah, I want to. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I got that Dark Souls play through
Speaker 1: I got I'm supposed to finish by Kingomarts two play
Speaker 1: through that I started in December this month because it's
Speaker 1: Christmas and jly today actually July twenty fifth. But uh,
Speaker 1: I would like to maybe we can, maybe we can
Speaker 1: use Giant bomazoans used to play.
Speaker 2: Some of us at Giant Bomb are playing it, so
Speaker 2: I'm curious if, like they would they would want to.
Speaker 1: I don't know, somebody, Yeah, somebody, I mean, I know this.
Speaker 1: On professional Friday, we're doing that Anime Mario Party game,
Speaker 1: which I gotta. I got to remember to install that
Speaker 1: on my switch tonight so I'll be ready.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, i'll see it. I'll see if
Speaker 2: when it comes out if, like, you know, that is
Speaker 2: something people are still excited about, because you know, we're
Speaker 2: talking about when it comes out, like maybe maybe doing
Speaker 2: something that we'll see if there's still interest there. I
Speaker 2: kind of want to check it out on on my
Speaker 2: phone actually, just to see what the mobile verse is like,
Speaker 2: so you know, we'll see what happens there. Also from
Speaker 2: Big Fresh Story seven, Uh, if you played Sony Ben's
Speaker 2: last game and got frustrated, you can say Dog Gone,
Speaker 2: Days Gone? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Has that really been their last game?
Speaker 3: Still?
Speaker 1: They haven't released anything since Days Gone?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 1: Man, that's why I think that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right because what they were supposed to have,
Speaker 2: well like a multiplayer game.
Speaker 1: I think they were working on a multiplayer and you know,
Speaker 1: they tried to pitch a sequel A Day's Gone and
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. But uh huh huh. That's interesting funny
Speaker 1: because I still think of it. I still kind of
Speaker 1: think of Ben as like that's the company that makes
Speaker 1: the Vita versions of franchises, right, obviously no need for
Speaker 1: that anymore.
Speaker 2: Oh and I thought it splintered Fate came out like
Speaker 2: this week, Well, it came out last week.
Speaker 1: I think it's been out a little bit.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it's hard to tell because like every release
Speaker 2: date you see is like for the for the Iowa's version.
Speaker 2: So from Bobby Downey, there's a sweak of a sweek
Speaker 2: a clone on Steam but with huge jugs. Where video
Speaker 2: games a mistake?
Speaker 4: Oh you tell me, tell me the name.
Speaker 2: I can't be so we can't avoid it.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right, Just tell me clothes they're not.
Speaker 2: Uh so, I saw it in passing when I was doing.
Speaker 4: You did.
Speaker 1: That's why I know about it.
Speaker 2: I think it was clothed. I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm sure you'll do some research later for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go grab that demo right away from Mike.
Speaker 2: Your favors, Super Chatter Power Glover. Happy Birthday to my
Speaker 2: Messy Boys, Happy Thursday to my Messy boys. Is he
Speaker 2: your birthday, Mike?
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. We're quite a bit.
Speaker 2: We're we're a few months away from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let you know when it's my birthday. I'm
Speaker 1: very obnoxious about it.
Speaker 3: That's right, birthday month, Yea, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Jeff Love's part in my take. Have
Speaker 2: you been watching the coach Doug's CFB twenty five streams.
Speaker 2: They're so fun. No idea what any of that means?
Speaker 2: By do you know? Jefferson chat and we'll Jeff, have
Speaker 2: you been watching that shit?
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell that is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, give mister power an answer for us. Please you
Speaker 2: watch the.
Speaker 4: Sports found this sweeka game on this team.
Speaker 1: Do not look up. It's fed up.
Speaker 4: Or they're very very nude and it's too much.
Speaker 1: Like what you like, start with like a cups not
Speaker 1: to build your way up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd assume, so right, what else would it be.
Speaker 1: Like? And then test boobs are just kind of weird.
Speaker 1: There's nothing I mean seriousness. That's why I like. It
Speaker 1: was like wait, what is this? And then like nope,
Speaker 1: down now because I was like the boobs.
Speaker 2: And they're dropping boobs.
Speaker 4: The lady is like like chewing up behind a little
Speaker 4: bit like the head of the lady.
Speaker 2: Like honey pop.
Speaker 1: Jeff Grubb says, I have not been watching whatever that
Speaker 1: thing was, but I did see that it had like
Speaker 1: eighteen thousand.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Okay, next up from Andy love the show, Well, thank you, Andy,
Speaker 2: thank you. When switch to releases, do you think we
Speaker 2: will have to wait long for Mario Kart nine. With
Speaker 2: Mark Kart eight, I always read m K as something else.
Speaker 2: With Barrio Kart eight's selling sixty million copies, could there
Speaker 2: be a bigger sist? Could that be a bigger system
Speaker 2: seller than could there be a bigger system seller than
Speaker 2: Mario Kart nine, I'll switch.
Speaker 1: To No Mario Kart would be, So you're not going
Speaker 1: to wait long because it's going to be a top
Speaker 1: priority for them. Mario Carti Deluxe was a very early
Speaker 1: switch game and it just sold incredibly throughout the Switches
Speaker 1: life cycle. They are going to want to replicate the
Speaker 1: same exact thing was switched to. It could very well
Speaker 1: be a launch game, and if it's not there, it'll
Speaker 1: be a matter of months, not years until we get
Speaker 1: a Mark. Mariokart nine is most likely a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five game.
Speaker 2: I think, ah, that feels right, or like early twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six, depending on maybe early.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six, but like, you know, if the switch to,
Speaker 1: you know, like let's say switch to is March or
Speaker 1: like summer, then hey, Mario Kark could be the holiday
Speaker 1: game very easily. Again, if it's not just a launch game,
Speaker 1: and it could be a launch game.
Speaker 2: It could be a launch game. I yeah, because the
Speaker 2: reason we didn't see Mario Kart eight or Mark Cart
Speaker 2: nine on the switch is because Marty Karr eight Deluxe
Speaker 2: just sold so stupidly. Well you don't you don't cut
Speaker 2: that off at the knees, you know.
Speaker 1: Like right, And what they did do is they released
Speaker 1: deal see kind of surprisingly late, right, like that wasn't
Speaker 1: that long ago, but we did get that. Also, don't
Speaker 1: forget it will be it would be Mario Kart ten
Speaker 1: because they consider Mario Kart Tour to be Mario Kart nine.
Speaker 2: That's true, but not but not the ar version boom, no, not.
Speaker 1: Too bad is Mario Kart What is that called the
Speaker 1: ar game thing?
Speaker 2: That's neat home Circuit or I'll freaking oh that sounds right,
Speaker 2: Home Circle. That sounds right, We'll go with that. I
Speaker 2: think that why that that's probably a bad name than
Speaker 2: anything they came up with from L Grugg as well.
Speaker 2: One person who lives in Ohio, is this whole couch
Speaker 2: thing just part of the course over there, because on
Speaker 2: the East Coast, furniture is just furniture.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we all fuck couches. You guys, ain't fucking couches.
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, guys, what you don't even know about this?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Where did this come up? I was listening to dump Truck,
Speaker 2: which I assume who came.
Speaker 1: Up aren't keeping up with the news. How embarrassing. Well
Speaker 1: just go read the Associated Press or something right and
Speaker 1: learned to respect Ohio's culture where we just Ohio only
Speaker 1: we fuck couches. Apparently you're all missing out.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm hearing from the chat that AP took the
Speaker 2: story down.
Speaker 1: Cowards. This is how democracy dies. Okay, don't worry about
Speaker 1: the boom sweek of game, Jeff, goddamn it, go back
Speaker 1: to fucking your couch. I mean getting rid of the
Speaker 1: bugs from the uncharted Wolf.
Speaker 2: My question about the most influential games of the seventh
Speaker 2: gen was serious, Jeff. I'd like to know, I love you.
Speaker 1: You were with me like, yeah, answer, this is clearly
Speaker 1: like Jeff, I know you hate the phrase seventh Jed,
Speaker 1: but I think he was actually The part I.
Speaker 2: Refuse to believe is that Wolf told me that he
Speaker 2: didn't know about the Jeff hating the whole like nother generation. Also,
Speaker 2: that's one Wolf still, but I believe you were asking
Speaker 2: a genuine question, he says. Now he's asking what you
Speaker 2: think the most influential games that the PS two generation is.
Speaker 1: See, that's one where I'm almost like a sixth genly
Speaker 1: agree with Jeff. Sixth gen has a nicer ring with
Speaker 1: that one. Actually, mean, grant thought of three is the most,
Speaker 1: uh for sure, Resident Evil for the another one of
Speaker 1: the big, big, big ones. I think I think, I
Speaker 1: think I have to give a little shout out for
Speaker 1: even Jet sent Radio because it was the first associated one.
Speaker 1: A little bit of loved Jeff set Radio.
Speaker 2: I'll say it. Kingdom Hearts. Yeah, action RPGs to just
Speaker 2: follow Kingdom Mars from then on, now, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And then I think I think on another
Speaker 1: side of it, Devil May Cry be exactly you character
Speaker 1: action games.
Speaker 2: Like action games from then on, how we're just DMC
Speaker 2: action RPGs were just Kingdom Hearts, uh like you said, uh,
Speaker 2: Survival horror from then on, ow was just ARI four
Speaker 2: Like yeah, there was a lot of.
Speaker 1: Horror, and then third person shooters and really in general
Speaker 1: two and here's a war. The next generation takes the
Speaker 1: RI four kind of idea and just you know, streams
Speaker 1: lines it into how every game like that ever is
Speaker 1: going to play. It seems like only recently we kind
Speaker 1: of got out of the thing where like every game's
Speaker 1: gonna have cover mechanics because here's a war.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like even Corey Barlock has explicitly stay up, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so much of God of War twenty eighteen was the
Speaker 2: way it was because we love Ari four and the
Speaker 2: way it did it, Like, yeah, it just did it well,
Speaker 2: so we want to do it that way.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: He answered that question, well, yeah, and Halo.
Speaker 2: There's there's a little bit of debate over that one,
Speaker 2: but Halo. Yeah, I'll I'll give the nod at least
Speaker 2: in terms of multiplayer shooters. Yeah, sure, sure should.
Speaker 1: Hey, come on, there was the whole like the load
Speaker 1: out only ever being two weapons, thing like that was
Speaker 1: Halo and the regenerating shields, they're all help pickups. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of things in Halo that not just
Speaker 1: the fact that it was, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: first popular console shooters. It really did set the way
Speaker 1: shooters are gonna feel for a long time.
Speaker 2: It's for me, it's so hard to like separate out
Speaker 2: the fact that like Golden Eyes started the trend on
Speaker 2: consoles and then every shooter since has just been called
Speaker 2: of Duty four. That's like, you know what, Halo does
Speaker 2: deserve credit, I think especially Halo two bringing it online
Speaker 2: and everything like that. But yeah, yeah, right, go on,
Speaker 2: I is bad, so, as I always like to point out,
Speaker 2: you can be both bad and influential, just like me. Anyways,
Speaker 2: that's it for the super chats.
Speaker 1: Mike, awesome, Thank you so much everybody. Sean and I
Speaker 1: are going to do a draft of fighting game characters,
Speaker 1: which I am going to go and set up right now,
Speaker 1: so hey, t everybody will be you right back. All right,
Speaker 1: we are back. Seawan and I are going to do
Speaker 1: a draft of fighting game characters. We're gonna do about
Speaker 1: twelve of these. We're just gonna try to like make
Speaker 1: you know, you know this is we're just trying to
Speaker 1: make the best list so you know, best roster, what
Speaker 1: have you. The one rule here, one important rule, no,
Speaker 1: the no Goku's rule. It has to be characters who
Speaker 1: originated in a fighting game. So like you know that
Speaker 1: we're not going to be picking smash brothers. Characters are
Speaker 1: people who are guest fighters and you can't say link
Speaker 1: or yeah go Goku.
Speaker 2: Right, So the no, no no Dragon Ball Fighters, no Smash,
Speaker 2: no Persona even no Marvel versus Capcom. For the most part,
Speaker 2: like stuff like that is off the table. We we
Speaker 2: did mention. There might be some extremely niche situations that
Speaker 2: we'll talk through if we get to them, but generally speaking, yeah,
Speaker 2: the not.
Speaker 4: This rule is like like it's just like Goku, like
Speaker 4: fighting with the heavy weights the clothing.
Speaker 2: So a little bit, You're not wrong.
Speaker 1: Let's go, all right, John, I've got my I got
Speaker 1: my end coin. Here. One side is is wheat, the
Speaker 1: other side is Japanese letters. Do you want wheat or
Speaker 1: Japanese letters?
Speaker 2: I can firmly say that wheat has never let me down?
Speaker 1: All right, like shit, it's wheat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1: The first uh, should we snake it? You think? Nah?
Speaker 1: And I guess bother snaking get first pick is yours?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't want to snake it? That's fine.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe maybe I'll get to right away. But then
Speaker 1: we don't snake it after that, right like you get one,
Speaker 1: then I get to then you I forget how we
Speaker 1: do this?
Speaker 2: We either well, usually we do no snaking. We could
Speaker 2: try snaky if you want, but.
Speaker 1: I'll I know snaking then who's the first fighter? Who's
Speaker 1: the first character in Shawn Fighter two Turbo.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is tough. This is really tough because there's
Speaker 2: multiple angles you could take with all this, and so
Speaker 2: it you know, it's a popularity contest, right, you got
Speaker 2: to pick the and I think for fighting game characters,
Speaker 2: you need pick characters. There are a good balance of
Speaker 2: like strong characters that people remember if you're being strong
Speaker 2: and also popular, which is why my first pick.
Speaker 1: I knew, I thought it was going to be a Kuma.
Speaker 1: I would have guessed you're gonna takes makes sense. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a slightly different angle. Yeah, in terms of
Speaker 1: popularity contest. And now it's a question. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a couple of choices here. I think both would be good.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna I'm gonna follow my heart here and
Speaker 1: I am going to take Candy as my actually, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel good enough about.
Speaker 2: That, Okay, And there's two that I'm thinking of right now.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of which would be more popular
Speaker 2: with because we are going to put this to the
Speaker 2: podcast producers.
Speaker 4: No recommendations in chat, you will get shot.
Speaker 1: No recommendtion in chat. Sorry, I forgot to say that
Speaker 1: no recommendations a chat.
Speaker 2: Good. Uh, there's two that I'm thinking here, there's two
Speaker 2: of them thinking that are filling the same rule. But
Speaker 2: the one, uh Jeff Karanov, no Goku's rule.
Speaker 1: Come on, Jeff, we said no recommendations.
Speaker 2: I think the one I'm going to go with is
Speaker 2: this is so it's hard, this is so tough, it's
Speaker 2: hard to have. It's hard. I am going to follow
Speaker 2: my heart and I'm going to go with jury.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. That's good. Yeah, that's good. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want.
Speaker 2: Any like limiters per franchise or anything, because I think
Speaker 2: that's part.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the strategy, because like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get off a street Fighter. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the street Fighter still has a good amount of
Speaker 1: the most popular game counters. There's gonna be a point
Speaker 1: where we have too many. We gotta be careful. I
Speaker 1: am trying to figure out if I really I have
Speaker 1: two choices here and it's a bit different, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go one. Lay part of me is
Speaker 1: like I just really double up with what I already
Speaker 1: have with Cami. Probably not I think I'm gonna take Ken.
Speaker 1: I think I'm taking I think I think Ken's more
Speaker 1: popular than Ryo's better.
Speaker 2: I'm a white bread I don't expect him be popular.
Speaker 1: No exactly. I think everybody likes Ken more than Reu.
Speaker 4: You might that one we'll see.
Speaker 2: I think so well, Mike, I think I need to
Speaker 2: complete the other half of evil momentary seven. Then yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to.
Speaker 1: The other one. I was thinking about. This is what
Speaker 1: I was thinking about.
Speaker 2: I was thinking Jerry or Showing, but I can give
Speaker 2: them both. I'm gonna go with both.
Speaker 1: Then, all right, I think Chunnels, Curly Pow put it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm at a point where I think I'm I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily want to street Fighter character, at least right away.
Speaker 1: So okay, So now my question is what franchise do
Speaker 1: I think is the most important after that? And who
Speaker 1: would I want to take the most who? And it's
Speaker 1: hard because some of these I'm like a little Johnny
Speaker 1: come Lately. So if you ask me, because this one,
Speaker 1: I'll say it like, who is the most popular tech
Speaker 1: In character? And I have some ideas on who that is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I would be correct with the
Speaker 1: most popular I know who like the reu Is, But again,
Speaker 1: is the Reu of tech and most popular? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I think it's either the father or the grandfather,
Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit scared to guess which one
Speaker 1: is the most popular. Actually, the fact that he's in
Speaker 1: Smash must mean something. So, but hey, I not choos
Speaker 1: in Silicower. I think I'm going to say Kasia take
Speaker 1: cause of you?
Speaker 2: Yes, because thanks to recency bias, I will go with, Hey,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 1: I probably should just taken because of recent recency bias.
Speaker 1: That's fine. Uh, Look, I want an S n K
Speaker 1: character for sure. I don't think there's a ton that
Speaker 1: like are gonna win popularity contests. I know one who will,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take my right now. What's her last name?
Speaker 2: Sheer anwie s h I R sheer rah A and
Speaker 2: you I thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm taking my.
Speaker 4: Hat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna take my right now. Character who's
Speaker 1: only going to become more popular once she shows up
Speaker 1: in Street Fighter six.
Speaker 2: But still so, I'm actually not gonna hop off the
Speaker 2: band I Nam train just yet because I think a
Speaker 2: character that I'll represent another series very well here, pretty
Speaker 2: popular one with Nightmare.
Speaker 1: I was literally gonna take Nightmare next. It feel how's
Speaker 1: it feel? It feels bad? Because Nightmare is such a
Speaker 1: cool character. Man, It's such a fun character to play,
Speaker 1: as to the rules. That's my main soul caliber before
Speaker 1: two b Yeah. Okay man, So I have a couple
Speaker 1: of things here. Can I can really shut you out
Speaker 1: of something? M hmm, because I could kind of take
Speaker 1: the basically the other and kick right now and that
Speaker 1: might hurt you. But like, how much you people really
Speaker 1: care about this one? He's in Smash Brothers. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what? Oh there, you'll have one other choice.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you'll go for it?
Speaker 3: Mm?
Speaker 1: Is this too bold? I'll tell you what if I
Speaker 1: would say if I don't take Terry right now, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna take Terry next, because why wouldn't. So
Speaker 1: here's my chance to take Terry unless I want to
Speaker 1: be smart to do something else. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take Terry right now, Terry Bogar right now.
Speaker 2: Okay. Now, I am going to go in a direction
Speaker 2: that you haven't thought to go yet. Oh shit, I
Speaker 2: am going to pick more Agan from Dark Stalkers.
Speaker 1: Oh shit. Okay, okay, man, that's good, right.
Speaker 2: Has brought us a long way. That's stupid spry that
Speaker 2: they used for like a decade and a half.
Speaker 1: And now like now I'm like, okay, do I need
Speaker 1: to be defensive here because you know, you know, the
Speaker 1: other one I could take it's not quite as good though.
Speaker 1: Actually I think I'm gonna be more defensive by taking
Speaker 1: Sofiia right now. The other the other good pick, the
Speaker 1: other good soul caliber pick. I think the next best
Speaker 1: sol caliber pick. Maybe people like killick. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think Sofidia is pretty cool. At least that's the
Speaker 1: next one I think of. Maybe maybe that's just a meeting.
Speaker 1: I like, might be a meat I could have picked
Speaker 1: a lizard man. That would have been fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, I am also going to go in a direction
Speaker 2: you have not gone yet. And I get first DIBs,
Speaker 2: and I think the correct choice is sub zero.
Speaker 1: Damn. I don't know how. I wasn't really thinking that yet,
Speaker 1: you know, wink.
Speaker 2: Sub zero is the right pick on that one, I.
Speaker 1: Think, And I think I actually would have done this.
Speaker 1: I think scorpions core the sub zero.
Speaker 2: See, And that's the thing, like this is this is
Speaker 2: a true test of the popularity of the MK characters right.
Speaker 1: There, right, And that was our seventh picks each. We're
Speaker 1: going to twelve, so we've still got some some five each.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we got some wiggle room.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I had to think a little bit more because I
Speaker 2: went to most of the places I want to go.
Speaker 2: There's still some characters in the back of my head.
Speaker 2: I can circle back to a couple. There's couple of
Speaker 2: franchisees I just not have not picked anything from yet. Sure,
Speaker 2: and I think this is a contest of popularity. It is,
Speaker 2: and I think because of that, I am going to
Speaker 2: go with because I got I got too right at
Speaker 2: the tip of my tongue. We got five each, so
Speaker 2: I could do that and.
Speaker 1: Then that man, I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 2: Consume me from Dead or Alive? Interesting, okay, dead alive,
Speaker 2: since there's multiple consumes.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I was thinking about that franchise. I
Speaker 1: wasn't actually thinking of that character though. But I still
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go there yet.
Speaker 2: There's other characters in there that I think are popular,
Speaker 2: but I think having the main character is gonna help
Speaker 2: me a little bit with that base.
Speaker 1: You are right, You're not wrong there. I again, there's
Speaker 1: multiple angles here because there's something there's even some like
Speaker 1: game series I'm thinking about, and I'm kind of like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any characters there that really
Speaker 1: play that well. It's like almost smarter to just go
Speaker 1: back to one of these other franchises instead of, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to pick something for one of these more obscure ones.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not. There's like, yeah, I kind of want
Speaker 1: to do that. There's there's the one I was thinking
Speaker 1: about doing before, but I don't. I don't think you're
Speaker 1: ever going to pick them, So it's probably okay for
Speaker 1: me to wait a little bit on that one. I
Speaker 1: think I say that, and then of course you're going
Speaker 1: to just come in at some point. Yeah, completely Robney
Speaker 1: of that one. Oh god, there's a part of me
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna lie to the apartments, like I
Speaker 1: should just take some more straight fight your camera. There's
Speaker 1: popular characters. They're very popular characters, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: hard because I'm thinking about these ones I'm thinking of,
Speaker 1: like none of these people are as popular as like
Speaker 1: the eighth most popular street Player character. What am I
Speaker 1: doing here? But I do think there's a point where
Speaker 1: everyone's like, hey, you have too many street flight characters.
Speaker 1: Who cares anymore.
Speaker 4: It's almost like that game to serve its own draft,
Speaker 4: you know, like one they could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're almost could at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think I'm gonna go back to that
Speaker 1: well at least one war time right now and pick Guyle.
Speaker 2: Okay, solid, pick very sad.
Speaker 1: Everyone likes that song. I think that's an iconic character. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna I'm gonna pick Guyle right now.
Speaker 2: Okay. I think I have extremely strong first half, and
Speaker 2: in these drafts I've learned you need to continue to
Speaker 2: have a strong second half. So I think I'm taking
Speaker 2: a slight risk here. I think I did a slight
Speaker 2: risk with Consume Me. I think I'm gonna take another
Speaker 2: slight risk here in diversifying a little bit more. Let
Speaker 2: me think that I have the right one. I think
Speaker 2: this is it. Yes, this is the character that will
Speaker 2: represent the series. He's on the freaking box full Gore
Speaker 2: from Killer Instincts.
Speaker 1: All right, help me spell, help me spell full if
Speaker 1: you l G O R E, there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard because that's like it's a very well like series,
Speaker 1: and I do struggle like ah man like.
Speaker 2: It's well loved, but it's not super popular. So this
Speaker 2: is definitely a niche pick for you know, from me,
Speaker 2: for a very specific audience. But I think it will
Speaker 2: help with you know, fighting games are all about the
Speaker 2: niche picks. It's all about the smaller games, the kusoga.
Speaker 2: You know, we gotta we gotta respect all that. And
Speaker 2: so I think that's gonna be my like that. I
Speaker 2: will say that's probably my riskiest pick. I don't think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get riskier than full Gore.
Speaker 1: I I think now is the time I have to
Speaker 1: go and get my dark stalker, and if you get
Speaker 1: more Agan, I'm going to appeel to the cat people.
Speaker 2: And taking my girl from me right there, right there.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I gotta do it. I think I think you
Speaker 1: might be right that Morgan might play better, but I
Speaker 1: think Felicia is not that far behy. I think for
Speaker 1: some people she plays even more certainly does Mike. All right,
Speaker 1: we each have two more? Oh wait, three more?
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, That's why I took a risk, because I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna get a few fan favorites here to
Speaker 2: round things out, and then I think I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: a couple more popular ones and the other fan favorite
Speaker 2: I want to get. I want to rep this series,
Speaker 2: and I think this might be the most popular character
Speaker 2: overall from the series. And she's also in the room
Speaker 2: with me right now, my girl biking from Guilty Gear.
Speaker 1: Nice Okay, Guilty Gear guest character Samurai showed down. Not bad.
Speaker 1: So that's definitely a big fan pick. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with my dead or a live character. Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look Tina Armstrong for that interesting pro wrestler.
Speaker 1: You know, that's fun mm hmm. So I like that
Speaker 1: Tina arm Shark was always the one that set up
Speaker 1: to me for whatever reason, I don't know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel happy picking Tina. But now that means it's
Speaker 1: back to you.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: See, now this is where I'm like, I could go
Speaker 2: even more franchises, or I could double down the ones
Speaker 2: that I picked. Okay, okay, And see there's another Guilty
Speaker 2: Year character I want.
Speaker 3: That's a funny thing.
Speaker 2: But I think I picked the most popular one. I
Speaker 2: think that's all I really need from that series. There's
Speaker 2: another one I want to pick. Okay, So let's see
Speaker 2: how many do we have each is it three hours
Speaker 2: of two?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: You have two more only left? Now? Okay, so these
Speaker 1: are precious picks.
Speaker 2: These are precious picks. Okay, I have plenty of Street Fighter.
Speaker 2: I have one each of Techan and Soul Caliber. I
Speaker 2: think I'm good there. I have one of the most
Speaker 2: popular MK characters. I could go for another one of those,
Speaker 2: the only Darstalk rit for damn sure.
Speaker 1: I know you're thinking about taking your Red Earth character,
Speaker 1: but I'm hoping you don't. You gotta keep Tessa from me.
Speaker 2: I'll let you keep Tessa there. Something tells me she
Speaker 2: might not do much for me. I think next up
Speaker 2: will be Ivy, also from Soul Caliber.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good pick.
Speaker 2: I think of going to another another direction, but I
Speaker 2: think Ivy is a more popular character from the place
Speaker 2: I was going.
Speaker 1: I want to have an ARC System character, and it's
Speaker 1: rough because I am I am not really a big
Speaker 1: guilty your person, so that leads me. I plays Blue
Speaker 1: and it's been a little bit since there's been one,
Speaker 1: and I'm not even super sure who the most popular
Speaker 1: character is. I know who I thought was the best character,
Speaker 1: and the one that stood up to me the most
Speaker 1: and this might just be me like liking characters and
Speaker 1: hats again. I think I'm gonna go out on this
Speaker 1: slight limb though, and pick Noel Vermillion.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's gonna be a slight deep cut there, Mikey.
Speaker 1: It might be a deep cut.
Speaker 2: I think that one might not pay off for you. There.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. I'll take it. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I no, one's gotta play at least maybe only slightly
Speaker 1: worse than biking. We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's so many I could go for. I know
Speaker 2: chat's internally screaming about. I'm sure we're forgetting some major
Speaker 2: things here. Oh, there's some that I'm not necessarily forgetting.
Speaker 2: It's just like, do they play with a general audience?
Speaker 1: Like, I'm just saying, what fire fighter character will we
Speaker 1: possibly pick? Right?
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, I'm cycling through them. I know I
Speaker 2: know which one's I could pick.
Speaker 1: I thought about it, but it's like, ah, I.
Speaker 2: Because like, I know one that would go for the
Speaker 2: older audience, But that doesn't really help me. I think
Speaker 2: in the voting there's another character who is more popular overall.
Speaker 2: A let me see, okay, let me look at my diversity.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see, like, you know, slight gender ratios.
Speaker 2: A man, I'm just around make sure there's not too
Speaker 2: many wife woos. You know what I'm saying, too many
Speaker 2: of those? God? Yeah, everyone knows why who is not popular?
Speaker 2: I think I'm hitting all the major corners that I
Speaker 2: wanted to hit. So it's like, do I go with
Speaker 2: another Street Fighter character? I mean, I mean so, I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to cheat her. Like I just look over
Speaker 2: here and I see so many fighting game posters. Do
Speaker 2: I want anyone from any of these franchises? I think
Speaker 2: I will go with another Guilty Care character. My second
Speaker 2: favorite character, Bridget from Guilty.
Speaker 1: A second, it's a.
Speaker 2: Bridge, a more recent popular character in the fighting game community.
Speaker 2: Only I'm not gonna I believe it's Et.
Speaker 1: That doesn't look great. I'll look that one up. I'll
Speaker 1: look that up. But in the meantime, I have to
Speaker 1: I had to admit something that they confess something here.
Speaker 1: I was just GT and that's why I fucked up Et. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have an ace and my sleeve. That's so because
Speaker 1: I said no, Goku's right, right, But what if there
Speaker 1: was an original character in a Dragon Ball fighting game.
Speaker 1: What if I pick Android twenty one as my very
Speaker 1: last character?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: What if I circumvent the rules in such a manner?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: You didn't think about that?
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Do people like Android twenty one?
Speaker 2: Maybe not as much as you'd think, but.
Speaker 1: I bet people like her. I'm going with my heart
Speaker 1: Enjoy twenty one, not a Goku.
Speaker 2: Still, like I would have picked someone else if that's
Speaker 2: what we were doing.
Speaker 1: That's not it. That's the rule. It said. No Gokus
Speaker 1: has to be a character that originates in a fighting game.
Speaker 1: How does she not count?
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. I feel like it's.
Speaker 1: Hey, if you want to undue Bridget for this other
Speaker 1: one you're thinking of, go for it.
Speaker 2: That's fine, But all right, you're gonna get me Marth.
Speaker 1: No, Mark doesn't count. Why not?
Speaker 2: He originated in fighting?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, he reached. Just because the game only releases
Speaker 1: Japan doesn't mean it. It doesn't count.
Speaker 2: Shod No, he just appeared and smashed before anything else appeared.
Speaker 1: One day.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying Android twenty one is just a curatory
Speaker 2: AMA design.
Speaker 1: I don't know that originated.
Speaker 3: You can have.
Speaker 4: On other stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, thank you, Christian.
Speaker 2: I believe all right, you didn't have a still I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't feel good about it. I don't feel good
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 2: But he's right.
Speaker 1: I feel great about.
Speaker 2: If Mike was like, I'm scrambling here, I need to
Speaker 2: do something.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: It's my Hail Mary, and it's great. I don't hate Mike.
Speaker 1: I think I look.
Speaker 2: I think it's a solid list. I personally think mine's
Speaker 2: better by thinking of his solid list.
Speaker 1: Ye, we'll see, we'll see. I'm gonna read my list first.
Speaker 1: Mitch Calibers roster includes Cammy Ken, Kazuya My, What's Jeru Nui,
Speaker 1: Terry polgart So Free to You, A Scorpion, Guyo, Felicia,
Speaker 1: Tina Armstrong, Noel Vermilion, and Android twenty one. I should
Speaker 1: have done she meets You Year by Fire Hair Go ahead, Sean.
Speaker 2: My list is a Kuma Jury, Chun Lee Hey Hashi, Nightmare, Morrigan,
Speaker 2: sub Zero, Consume from ab from Debt or Alive specifically
Speaker 2: Full Gore, Biking, Ivy and Bridget and I ter reminded
Speaker 2: my Missoko Roy was first in smash Ah.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: Yes, who's not on point?
Speaker 1: You're making? That makes a little bit more sense.
Speaker 2: But all right, all right, you know what chat All
Speaker 2: bets are off. Anyone can say anything they want. Like,
Speaker 2: I feel that we missed anything big because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I kept going with like a Kura Yuki or like Bryant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got any I would from Melina.
Speaker 2: I didn't forget Molina.
Speaker 1: I just don't like I would never Oh, twin Town,
Speaker 1: that's funny, twin To. You want to set up the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the master?
Speaker 1: Master? And that would have been funny how she can
Speaker 1: do with maybe a little surprising.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think that Hakmen is way more popular
Speaker 4: than Noel.
Speaker 2: I don't know who command or you know Ragna the
Speaker 2: main character of It's okay, Mike, you picked.
Speaker 4: Your characters either it seemed important.
Speaker 2: I could have picked any number of Skull Girls characters.
Speaker 2: I just don't think they would have done anything for
Speaker 2: me in the long run.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, that might have been an interesting Oh
Speaker 1: held out from Uni almost just did uh A Kira
Speaker 1: from Virtual Fire My god, I'll just pick the freaking
Speaker 1: you from Virtue Fighter. I was like, eh, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna I don't think it's gonna go Oh
Speaker 1: so bad guy, that's a funny bad Guy.
Speaker 2: Because sole bad guy is white bread Vanilla. I know
Speaker 2: because I play him. That's why I did him. But
Speaker 2: we'll read the full super chat, don't you worry.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Mara Jade would have played I
Speaker 1: gotta be many. That's funny though.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go to a break and then I
Speaker 2: cannot first game the set up.
Speaker 1: I'll take a break, we'll set these polls up and
Speaker 1: then yeah we will. H we'll finish the show. All right,
Speaker 1: we're back. We're gonna talk about some games we've been playing.
Speaker 1: Both of us were playing some Marvel rivals on Giant
Speaker 1: Bomb togeather there no, I was a hey, it's it's
Speaker 1: as shameless an Overwatch clone as you can imagine. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's got the same art style, it's got
Speaker 1: like the same UI and like sound design and so
Speaker 1: much of it. A lot of the characters are either
Speaker 1: taking some abilities or just almost straight up The entire
Speaker 1: kits from characters like star Lord is very much similar
Speaker 1: to Tracer things like that. Other characters are amalgamations, like
Speaker 1: the Punisher as a bit of Soldier seven, a bit
Speaker 1: of Reaper, a little bit of Bastion, just a bunch
Speaker 1: of things. But I had fun, I really did. It
Speaker 1: was kind of having a good time. Part of it
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I'm playing something that's like Overwatch
Speaker 1: but new, and it's kind of like as much as
Speaker 1: I liked Overwatch Wild and eventually I fell off it,
Speaker 1: but it was always that the most fun in like
Speaker 1: that first year, that second year, even when it was
Speaker 1: kind of unbalanced and kind of weird, and they're still fit,
Speaker 1: everything's out. It's a good reason why I'd like with
Speaker 1: fighting games, I almost like to just play whatever the
Speaker 1: newest one is, right because it's kind of more fun
Speaker 1: to me before it gets super figured out or before
Speaker 1: that player base gets whittled down into like the most hardcore.
Speaker 1: So there's something fun about just playing when these new
Speaker 1: things again and everybody just kind of scrambling around doing
Speaker 1: their best. But I don't know, what did you think?
Speaker 2: I Okay? So, like, I know people aren't gonna some
Speaker 2: people aren't gonna like the comparison, but hey, we're human beings.
Speaker 2: We compare what we know. And having just played Concord
Speaker 2: recently to another hero shooter, clearly going for the Overwatch
Speaker 2: crowd or the former Overwatch crowd, this one being yes,
Speaker 2: for a fairly blained ripoff of Overwatching, you want to
Speaker 2: call it that. But guess what, Overwatch is fun and
Speaker 2: this is fun too, Like it's just a fun game
Speaker 2: to play. And I think, you know, I want to
Speaker 2: remind people, like, we wouldn't have ninety nine percent video
Speaker 2: games if it wasn't for you know, one company ripping
Speaker 2: our company off. At some point.
Speaker 1: It's like Jeff Jeff wants to say that the first
Speaker 1: video game ever was something like Space something, and then
Speaker 1: the second video game ever was a clone up exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like in the DNA of this industry.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think people are mad that like MK
Speaker 2: kind of copied Street Fighter or like, you know, at
Speaker 2: this point even Legal Legends copied the original DODA or something. No,
Speaker 2: it's like they took that idea and they put their
Speaker 2: own spin on. And yes, this is very similar in
Speaker 2: terms of art style and everything like that. But guess what,
Speaker 2: we didn't really like Concord's art style. We do like
Speaker 2: this one. We didn't really like the way the gunplay
Speaker 2: felt in that game as much we we seem to
Speaker 2: love it in this one, and it's like they're just
Speaker 2: doing everything right as far as I'm concerned, And I
Speaker 2: think it's one of those situations where people are so
Speaker 2: done with the old one that maybe a new one
Speaker 2: just doing things better is kind of what this section
Speaker 2: of video games needs right now. I think Marvel Rivals
Speaker 2: is putting their own spin on in some way. Is
Speaker 2: like the very explicit team ups, which I think are
Speaker 2: a very smart idea because you know, getting everyone to
Speaker 2: play the same or to play the the types of
Speaker 2: characters you need in a hero shooter like in Overwatch,
Speaker 2: it can be difficult because everyone just wants to play
Speaker 2: their favorites. But when you have something like yeah, all
Speaker 2: the Spider people are cool, but also they have a
Speaker 2: team up attack. But also when you realize when you
Speaker 2: have all three Spiders, you have diversity, You have a tank,
Speaker 2: you have a brawler, and then you have a squishy
Speaker 2: character dealing with a lot of damage. Like you have
Speaker 2: a good team composition at least half of one. When
Speaker 2: you have that team up, super going right there. So
Speaker 2: like that type of or like you know, encouraging Rocket
Speaker 2: and Groot to work together. Roots a tank and Rockets
Speaker 2: a healer, Like if you put those two on your
Speaker 2: team together, you're gonna do well. So I think making
Speaker 2: that very explicit in addition to any implicit ones, you know,
Speaker 2: like the far of Mercy of Overwatch will figure stuff
Speaker 2: like that out over time. But having those specific team
Speaker 2: up attacks I think are very neat and is you know,
Speaker 2: even something fairly small that like will make it stand
Speaker 2: out a little more. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, we were trying out a bunch
Speaker 1: of characters and we both kind of settled. I think
Speaker 1: you were a Rocket Raccoon, a support character and I
Speaker 1: was Punisher, and part was because they did have this
Speaker 1: team up thing and you know, you see where they
Speaker 1: do that because they both like guns a lot. But
Speaker 1: like you could, you can kind of set down this
Speaker 1: little like circle for me if I stand in it
Speaker 1: for a bet, I have unlimited ammo, I don't have
Speaker 1: to reload for a while, right, And it's neat, it's cool.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, and I kind of even think
Speaker 1: about that. How it's not just about oh, these two
Speaker 1: characters interacts. It's pretty deliberate, like well, Rocket Raccoon is
Speaker 1: a support character and Punisher is a damaged character. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the big trouble that Overwatch has been dealing with,
Speaker 1: and they actually just kind of published this long blog
Speaker 1: today sort of talking about, hey, could six can six
Speaker 1: versus six ever come back? Because that game became five
Speaker 1: verses five, right, And the big difference there is it's
Speaker 1: one tank on each team instead of two. And you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of talked about the problem is nobody wants
Speaker 1: to play tank, right, and it's real hard to incentivize
Speaker 1: people to want to do that. And if you have
Speaker 1: two tanks per team, then that's going to double the
Speaker 1: length of time of cues and it kind of feels bad,
Speaker 1: and Marvel Rivals maybe this helps out a bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: the other thing that helps it is that unlike Overwatch,
Speaker 1: there isn't like a set, Hey you have to have
Speaker 1: a tank, you have to have two tanks or anything
Speaker 1: like that. It's kind of like back in the day
Speaker 1: when Overwatch you could pick and you can't have any
Speaker 1: team composition you want. We'll see how long that sticks
Speaker 1: or if it works yeah in that way, or again,
Speaker 1: once the game gets figured out, everybody's will be like, no,
Speaker 1: we need two healers, we need you know, this many tanks,
Speaker 1: we need this many damage.
Speaker 2: I get the vibe that they know what they're doing
Speaker 2: with this, like they are overwatched players who want to
Speaker 2: make an Overwatch that feels good to them, like a
Speaker 2: new version, a new take on. So I won't be
Speaker 2: surprised if they did what I felt was a smart
Speaker 2: thing where you can have whatever team comp you want
Speaker 2: in casual play and then in right you space civilly
Speaker 2: need a specific breakdown of characters like with any eage role.
Speaker 1: That would be smart and interestingly, like that Overwatch two buff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, look, we're gonna we'll test a sixty six
Speaker 1: mode again. See people think of it, and you know,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how that plays. Because they're right,
Speaker 1: nothing kind of solves that problem. I don't think Marvel
Speaker 1: Rivals magically find a solution to the problem too. But again,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's just it, maybe just the fact that
Speaker 1: it is new. It's just kind of what makes it
Speaker 1: fun right now, the fact that I don't have every
Speaker 1: map layout memorized, and I don't know what every character
Speaker 1: does that I don't know who the good characters are,
Speaker 1: who the trash characters are, Although you know, I hate
Speaker 1: judging things based off of like three hours of gameplay
Speaker 1: I don't understand how Spider Man is supposed to be good,
Speaker 1: but maybe it is. I was having a rough time
Speaker 1: with that. But yeah, it was just kind of fun
Speaker 1: to be in that early experimental stage again. And hey,
Speaker 1: maybe that means I played this game for like ten hours,
Speaker 1: twenty hours, thirty hours, and that's enough for me. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna be like the thousand hours in plus that
Speaker 1: I spent an Overwatch, but that's fine. I can enjoy
Speaker 1: this for a bit.
Speaker 2: Definitely sewn anything.
Speaker 1: Else from you. I mean, I know you're you know,
Speaker 1: you had your evil thing. We actually talked about that
Speaker 1: on the BombCast. A good bit. I know, you got
Speaker 1: to play the the Riot fighting and I can never
Speaker 1: remember the Dame Ko well just rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, that I would say in the past
Speaker 2: week that maybe, like the most interesting one I played
Speaker 2: was playing two x KO at the Riot booth forwards
Speaker 2: at EVO. I also played NBC Collection, but like I
Speaker 2: said the BombCast, that's just NBC Games working well. So
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, yeah, it's gonna be a good collection everybody,
Speaker 2: especially if you like.
Speaker 1: You could have you could have taken ruby Hart to
Speaker 1: counter my Android twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't worry, I can like a mingo was
Speaker 2: like flowing around in my head for a long time there,
Speaker 2: don't you worry.
Speaker 1: I was aware Ruby Heart should be more popular. Damn it.
Speaker 2: Ruby Art is a cool character.
Speaker 1: She wears a hat, all right, you know, like hats
Speaker 1: holy you do like but yes two x k O right,
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, go ahead, take a sippy, sim good job.
Speaker 2: Thank you called me soon. I heard like, yeah, the
Speaker 2: the alpha is yeah. I think people got codes all
Speaker 2: ready for it to like get ready for it.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: I never filled up. I never filled out a form
Speaker 2: for that. Like if you filled out the format evil,
Speaker 2: you were guaranteed to get access. But you I think, well,
Speaker 2: I mean I have I have a contact hit right now?
Speaker 2: So well yeah yeah, because part part of me bea
Speaker 2: evos that I did a little bit of work game
Speaker 2: spot so I had to, like, you know, work with
Speaker 2: a bunch of people, which by the way, I I
Speaker 2: don't know again, I don't know how many and specifically
Speaker 2: when they will be going up. I did do interviews
Speaker 2: with Matsumoto from Street Fighter Team and the like most
Speaker 2: of the tech and team, and then on Rivera on
Speaker 2: two x KO he's the director. I think we might
Speaker 2: be putting all of those up on game Spot, but
Speaker 2: like a bare minimum, the tech in one should be
Speaker 2: going up sometime in the future here. But yeah, playing
Speaker 2: two x Kale was very fun. It is very Marvel,
Speaker 2: I would say Marvel Infinite specifically. There's clear inspiration there
Speaker 2: where it's two v two and you can, like, do
Speaker 2: you tag in your character? You can active tag, you
Speaker 2: can like they call it a handshake where you like
Speaker 2: swap that character in after they assist you and neat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's how you can do cool stuff like like
Speaker 2: I mentioned on the BombCast, Sean was telling me that
Speaker 2: the philosophy there is they want people playing together in
Speaker 2: Riot games in general, and that's how like two x
Speaker 2: Kale sort of came to be, is that, you know,
Speaker 2: having a two v two fighter made sense for Riot's
Speaker 2: whole teaming up philosophy. And that's how stuff like the
Speaker 2: handshake tag will work. Is that you can have, say
Speaker 2: you are the the damage dealer on your team. You
Speaker 2: can have like a big buff person like Brahm, you know,
Speaker 2: sort of a Zangie fish character come in and sort
Speaker 2: of like tank a hit for you, or like disrupt
Speaker 2: the enemy a little bit because you're a little squish
Speaker 2: er you need help sometimes, and like you can even
Speaker 2: do things like you know, tag in your friend more
Speaker 2: consistently to like get yourself out. But also they are
Speaker 2: better in a situation that the opponent's setting up for,
Speaker 2: then they can help you out there. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of cool things that they set up for in that game,
Speaker 2: and I think they're doing a lot of things right.
Speaker 2: The I was a little worried about the input system.
Speaker 2: It is very simple. It is uh you press uh
Speaker 2: smash inputs, so like a direction plus a bun. There's
Speaker 2: three main attack buns and two special buns, which I
Speaker 2: think everyone agrees maybe feels a bit weird. Maybe they
Speaker 2: like condense that down to like three main attacks and
Speaker 2: a special and then one time.
Speaker 1: Because I mean, if you already have a special button,
Speaker 1: then that's you know up four down in the specials.
Speaker 2: You think that be enough, but they want enough room,
Speaker 2: I believe, so that you can't have like up to
Speaker 2: eight special moves, you know. I feel like nowadays and
Speaker 2: findings most characters do just have like four. But so
Speaker 2: maybe they just maybe most characters, because I noticed Bram
Speaker 2: most of his stuff was just on Special two. It's
Speaker 2: like maybe some characters will get full use of that,
Speaker 2: and other characters is like, yeah, you really just hang
Speaker 2: one of them. But the option is there in case
Speaker 2: we want character to have more moves. So I'm curious
Speaker 2: to see how that ends up playing out. But just yeah,
Speaker 2: the field the game was fantastic. It's Riot the Neck
Speaker 2: is gonna be great. They've already talked about because Riot
Speaker 2: and the Cannon Brothers who made GGPO. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 2: basically made Rollback as we know it exactly, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: I full figet that this game is going to play well.
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, like, you know, how much the casual
Speaker 2: audience is gonna like it and how much staying power
Speaker 2: it has. But I had a lot of fun playing
Speaker 2: it with a Christian's homie, Jeremiah's from Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: fun to run into him there. That was that was
Speaker 2: like really random but really cool. We were paired up
Speaker 2: with two people from i GM L L Adam too,
Speaker 2: so that's really cool.
Speaker 4: His first evil in his third potential tournament and he
Speaker 4: went like three two, like he won a couple of
Speaker 4: matches on the pool. It was kind of crazy, that's
Speaker 4: pretty good. Shout out to him.
Speaker 1: I would. I'm so curious because I have to see
Speaker 1: how it does, because like part of me would almost
Speaker 1: be surprised if it's not a hit. It's just it
Speaker 1: seems like there's a prep, there's a pedigree there. It
Speaker 1: seems like there should be a lot of inherent interest
Speaker 1: from both fighting game fans and from legal legend fans, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why this wouldn't work out.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: The thing is, like every game they released other than
Speaker 4: Leo Lagen, like after Leo of Leagion is he has
Speaker 4: some like release like gameplay wise, you know, like they
Speaker 4: released a card game. It's kind of like tactical too.
Speaker 4: They released like what's the team fighting Tactics.
Speaker 1: It's also like the card game is dead already, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: To be honest, it's not very popular, but it has
Speaker 2: his own deckheade audience, which hey, if this is what
Speaker 2: if that's what T two x K turns into, that's
Speaker 2: fighting games in a nutshell, so they would be Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally forgot about because I also to say,
Speaker 4: like every other game like kind of looks like right
Speaker 4: is very different from Yeah, So yeah, that's a big
Speaker 4: hit too. Yeah, it's a big hit you.
Speaker 1: That's right, room, Terry. I think terror if it's not done,
Speaker 1: it's not it's it's small. I tell you what. Though,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for to Terry and street Fighter six and
Speaker 1: it was a small trailer. But that's like I I
Speaker 1: have not played. You know again, I say, I like
Speaker 1: to play these fighting games kind of like when they're new.
Speaker 1: And I played a good amount street Fighter six at first,
Speaker 1: and then it played much once the characters started rolling
Speaker 1: out because none of them really got me excited about
Speaker 1: Terry and my After that, I excited for both of those,
Speaker 1: even Alina after that.
Speaker 2: And you're so excited that, hey hot, he's back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well how cool? That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, we.
Speaker 1: All wanted we all wanted freaking TIFA announced we get
Speaker 1: Hichi instead. Come on, but I want it. It would
Speaker 1: be cool.
Speaker 2: It would be so cool.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Do you play in an Impact?
Speaker 2: I did it. There was a shockingly long line.
Speaker 4: Bro that game looks I watched the entire exhibition tournament
Speaker 4: they did. It looks so good. It's Marvel is the
Speaker 4: NBC tree people?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like, yeah, it's aiding doing the people who
Speaker 2: made Marvel versus capcount three doing not Marvel versus capcount
Speaker 2: three with Hunter Hunter, so that.
Speaker 4: Will be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be popular with like a specific audience, but
Speaker 2: like just having Marvel three sort of back in a way.
Speaker 1: The street Fighter ex. People made Street Fighter ex with
Speaker 1: Fighting X exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The first the first little show you look like ship.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know about this one, but
Speaker 4: now I saw the entire like something and it looks
Speaker 4: so cool and it looks so fast and fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So super games are in good place, y'all?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Sean, do you wanna do you want
Speaker 1: to call the poll? You want to see who won
Speaker 1: that people have had enough time to vote. I see
Speaker 1: that the YouTube one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the YouTube one is ending right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: YouTube looks like that's done with Sean Fighter two Turbo
Speaker 1: when you have fifty six percent with Mitch Caliber at
Speaker 1: forty three. But that's not what determines the winner here, Sean,
Speaker 1: it's our podcast producers to do. What did they say?
Speaker 2: See?
Speaker 1: This is work on your face?
Speaker 3: The winner.
Speaker 2: Thirty votes to thirty one votes. Wow, the winner by
Speaker 2: one is Mitch Caliber.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm a little okay, wout it for yourself.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: On YouTube I did, but no, I did not vote
Speaker 1: for myself in podcast producers, I would never. I think, hey,
Speaker 1: I liked your list a lot. To Sean, I think
Speaker 1: it could have gone either way. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: scared me. When you got nightmare. I think that's when
Speaker 1: I thought I was toast and then I kind of
Speaker 1: lead even more heavily on my uh my, my wife?
Speaker 1: Who heavy?
Speaker 2: He sure did?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Not look not that you did any right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think maybe I would have pivoted and like found
Speaker 2: some space for like Raina in there, you know, pick you.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like when I first brought this up,
Speaker 2: I'm like, am I even gonna pick like Kimberly or Luke? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Probably not because he's not like.
Speaker 1: It's funny becuse people used to hate Luke. People hated
Speaker 1: Luke when he was just a ship five.
Speaker 2: Alex Lee deserves all the crew in the world for
Speaker 2: turning that character around, meaning into the character on Twitter
Speaker 2: and everything like that, Like yeah, he absolutely turned.
Speaker 4: That cant he made it like yeah, and they also
Speaker 4: made it good and fire six everybody hated in three
Speaker 4: five five, so three fivey six like turning characters around
Speaker 4: for everybody.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was a lot of fun. Thank
Speaker 1: you to Noel for million for getting me there was
Speaker 1: one normal no well for millions for no over million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, wow, they didn't pick Zangy, but they
Speaker 2: picked noelver million.
Speaker 1: I thought about Zangie, but again I was like, ah, God,
Speaker 1: how many am I gonna pick?
Speaker 3: People?
Speaker 1: Am I going to pick? All right?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: You know I should have Maybe if I did, Cassie
Speaker 1: cage In said or something that would have been but
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about Johnny. I was definitely thinking
Speaker 2: about Johnny there.
Speaker 1: Johnny may have been good. Maybe Mortal Combat may have
Speaker 1: been worth two slots.
Speaker 2: Again, I was trying to cater to the to our
Speaker 2: audience specifically since they they determined the vote, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: but I guess people liked. Uh everyone just voted for
Speaker 2: my real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Mike might save to me there, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much to my Uh all right, why don't
Speaker 1: we do the rest of these super chets here and
Speaker 1: then we'll get on our way.
Speaker 2: Sounds good, so we left off. Doctor Ryan says corn
Speaker 2: is a grain like wheat, it's not a fruit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that makes more sense to me.
Speaker 2: I have the same Again, I was speaking off the cuff.
Speaker 2: I heard like, some vegetable is actually a fruit. I'm like, huh, really,
Speaker 2: that's that's weird, un nerve all that. Uh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't remember what it is, but hey, thanks for a
Speaker 2: super chat. And then yes, Ali Miracle, who was a
Speaker 2: vibrating over chair while this whole thing was going on,
Speaker 2: wellint out that Biking is a known hater, non hated
Speaker 2: player with a non hated character with no actual players.
Speaker 2: Bridge is a good second choice for Guilty Gear characters,
Speaker 2: but no soul bad guy come on, bad guys in
Speaker 2: his name.
Speaker 1: I think I picked Noel because again I was like,
Speaker 1: I should have the Guilty Gear character and I don't
Speaker 1: remember any of their names, and I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: the only to be honest, I was like, I need
Speaker 1: to have an ORC System character. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I thought that, And the only one who I remember
Speaker 1: is Noel Vermillion. I don't know why I even remember
Speaker 1: her last name. It's a good name.
Speaker 2: We talked about her like a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: because I like her, She's.
Speaker 4: In she has a thought. I thought that one of the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I think that's just it. I just
Speaker 1: like Berets, all right, that's fair. Uh any other super chats,
Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. Goodness gracious me. Uh uh oh, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna not see for a bid here. I was like,
Speaker 1: kid up the outro music, Sorry.
Speaker 2: Get out here. It's been a long week, dude.
Speaker 1: It has been a long week. Part of me is glad.
Speaker 1: Uh we were We're going to do Columbro tonight, but
Speaker 1: just busy with the bugs. So that's that's okay. I'm relieved.
Speaker 1: We'll do that soon. I got up. I'm still going
Speaker 1: to schedule the uh the uh game mess uh game
Speaker 1: Club episode for psychondots everybody.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I've been slacking a little bit on that front, but
Speaker 1: I'll get there.
Speaker 4: No Columbus this week there, Sorry, Yeah, we'll.
Speaker 1: Get We'll get there soon. Jeff bugs, Well what we've
Speaker 1: I think we both watched the episode now, so it'll
Speaker 1: be happening very soon. Do not worry Sean. Anything you
Speaker 1: want to shout out before we get out here.
Speaker 2: You follow me on Twitter as always at Turbo Shawn Underscore.
Speaker 2: I said I got at least one interview that should
Speaker 2: be going up on Game Spot as a text article
Speaker 2: at some point in the near future here that They'm
Speaker 2: gonna help them out a little bit with video coverage
Speaker 2: that coming out of Evil. We'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2: I was very busy with a variety of things to
Speaker 2: both get an Evil video that working out for Giant Bomb,
Speaker 2: as well as like helping out the game Spot homies.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how that all ends up shaking out.
Speaker 2: It's very hectic because people are at San Diego Comic
Speaker 2: Con and stuff, so like, yeah, we're figuring everything out.
Speaker 1: Oh good, oh good. Yeah, we had some fun on
Speaker 1: Giant Bontay. Check check us check out excuse me us
Speaker 1: playing Marvel rivals me, Sean and Jeff. Uh. Jeff and
Speaker 1: I are also in the voicemail dumb Truck. This week,
Speaker 1: I got very mad about Liquid Death again, and uh yeah.
Speaker 2: You're right about that way. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's very dumb.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't have back Ala on my team.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I can't believe back of all people is
Speaker 1: defending Liquid Death. I believe I.
Speaker 4: Wanted to see you more angry.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, thank you. We are going to be
Speaker 1: playing that Demon Slayer Mario Party Game tomorrow, Professional Fridays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know if I'm on BCR, I
Speaker 1: might be. I don't know what they're doing on BCR,
Speaker 1: but they're doing a BCR.
Speaker 2: We whipped together BCR the last one. He feels like
Speaker 2: that we'll figure out what we.
Speaker 1: Want to do something. We'll get figured out there. It'll
Speaker 1: be great everybody, and then there'll be a weekend and
Speaker 1: that'll be nice. You do anything fun this weekend, Sean sleeping? Yeah,
Speaker 1: sleeping is good. I'm very close to being from Busy six.
Speaker 1: I just got to go to Kepka's tower.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I did pretty much all the side stuff that I could.
Speaker 1: I leveled up everybody. It's all right, thank you, everybody,
Speaker 1: have a great weekend.
Speaker 3: Us.
Speaker 1: It's still going getting clost ending.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: There you go, my Dixie wrecked. You can get one
Speaker 1: more dam all right? John?
Speaker 2: Okay reading this, Yeah, I can pull it up here
Speaker 2: in a sack. Let me switch for this tab and.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, five is.
Speaker 1: Pla, Yeah I remember five? Rant I didn't please. Answers
Speaker 1: not run great? Probably every answer.
Speaker 4: They're hard to play now because you have there're like
Speaker 4: some of them are dropping PS three right, oh that's.
Speaker 1: Annoying answers on Xbox three sixty though I think in.
Speaker 2: Four Okay, I'm just pulling out the back up here,
Speaker 2: but I should have on YouTube as primary one, and
Speaker 2: I think I'm good when you're.
Speaker 4: Never three sixty. All right, let's go back.
Speaker 2: I thought you say HENTI, Now, no, why would you
Speaker 2: have that on the brain care with a couch.
Speaker 4: But he's still very extremely weird, says Box. All right, okay, sure,
Speaker 4: we're easy to believe.
Speaker 2: You can do that on your end, mic, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: can do it, all right?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 2: H Can you stream it to the discord so I
Speaker 2: can see it.
Speaker 1: One second?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably can o. Actually no, i' yeah you'll
Speaker 1: see it just a little bit if you watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just watch this like like that's fine.
Speaker 3: Actually, okay, it's that some.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, last week of games fucked up. Don't look
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 2: I saw one picture.
Speaker 4: I was like, yep, that's yep.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to the to the nice melons.
Speaker 2: Nice melons.
Speaker 1: To say, nice melons.
Speaker 2: They have little smiles on them. I like those better.
Speaker 1: Alright, let me just get the scene set up.
Speaker 4: You want to stream that game on Patreon? You can
Speaker 4: stream no patren.
Speaker 3: If you want.
Speaker 1: Friends behind, it's gonna get You're gonna get.
Speaker 4: The monetized.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: My casete every fruit he hates you. I don't think
Speaker 4: there's a fruit in the world he likes.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you're right, Yeah, that's probably right. There's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like vegetables this case by case, there's I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a single fruit. I'm cool with Youmato. I
Speaker 1: like tomatoes, just gotta cook them. I don't eat a
Speaker 1: fucking raw tomato.
Speaker 4: Tomato is the fruit, I know, but like, oh, what else.
Speaker 2: Is that I found out is messed up? That's the fruit?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Corn is technically a fruit?
Speaker 1: Corn is a fruit.
Speaker 2: I guess the one.
Speaker 1: Because of how like I don't even love corn. But
Speaker 1: if corn is a fruit, it's the new best fruit.
Speaker 2: Because it's because like what it technically grows on the inside.
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't even love but I can't
Speaker 1: eat corn. Well, nobody maybe something nobody would ever eat raw? Right,
Speaker 1: Maybe that just helps you like the funny version of corn,
Speaker 1: A funny version of corn.
Speaker 4: Condy corn, cond of corn.
Speaker 1: I don't hate candy corn, any corns disgusting. We're almost there.
Speaker 4: My grandma had a feel of corner, like a small
Speaker 4: feel of corner. We will steal corn from a feel
Speaker 4: and just eat. It could get a little bit.
Speaker 1: Does that look everybody delicious?
Speaker 4: It looks looks good, that looks fun.
Speaker 2: Yeahs. It's scaled properly for like twelve entries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I could probably be made a little bit bigger.
Speaker 2: Hukay. Yeah, because if it could, if you could knock
Speaker 2: off a few entries and can make a little.
Speaker 1: Bit bigger, that's probably better. That's probably let me just.
Speaker 2: And then just moving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we'll be good. There you go easy.
Speaker 1: Look I still probably did that faster than Jeff. All Right,
Speaker 1: I'm choking.
Speaker 4: Alright, you're not all right?
Speaker 1: I can bring us back in Okay, give my back?
Speaker 4: Can baby?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: That's the break. I thought we were in a break already.
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh ship, this is we were
Speaker 2: just fighting.
Speaker 4: She's talking over people and ships as your time to breaks.
Speaker 1: I'm joking. Okay, taken, you you want to do a
Speaker 1: chat pool too? While you're sure, chief do a chat pole.
Speaker 4: You're in the chat.
Speaker 2: I can grab it.
Speaker 4: If you can't, I can't. I can change my account
Speaker 4: home because you have to change your whole account in
Speaker 4: this motherfucker.
Speaker 2: It's annoying. Let's see, let's see, let's do Sean Fighter
Speaker 2: too Turbo for the record. I wanted to be the
Speaker 2: or me Seawan Sybots.
Speaker 3: For the record. Uh okay, I kiss the reds.
Speaker 2: You know, chall was uh suggesting a bunch of people,
Speaker 2: and I didn't think that anyone was like too egregiously
Speaker 2: off the list, like soul Back guy maybe the biggest one.
Speaker 2: H something someone said for you, but it's.
Speaker 3: Like no, no, uh.
Speaker 4: A slayer also is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: There's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh so someone point uh fire hair pointed out that, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, may may have been a good guilty are rules.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to get I need to. I need
Speaker 4: to I need to start playing. You need I missed UNI.
Speaker 4: Every time I think, well UNI I get, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: ship be so good.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I haven't played the new one.
Speaker 2: I do too. Yeah, I had that because I got
Speaker 2: when it was during like the price error and was
Speaker 2: like ten bucks or something shortly after coming an Uh,
Speaker 2: let me do a quick pain to everyone.
Speaker 4: Get back to get back to the leaner. I haven't
Speaker 4: touched the new strip. Pauch I need to get the
Speaker 4: season bass for Stripe, even though I haven't played that
Speaker 4: game in a year. Probably I always get it, so
Speaker 4: I had to get it.
Speaker 1: Mhm yeah, all right, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I think you miss a big on the audience where
Speaker 4: none of.
Speaker 1: You really I like Arnica, I don't know because niche
Speaker 1: I think she shows up in six.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's yeah, like I kept saying, you know, popularity.
Speaker 2: I think it's like also the reason like I think
Speaker 2: shel Khan is a fantastic character, but I'm not sure
Speaker 2: people would like gravitate towards that character something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I love King from King of Fighters. I
Speaker 1: don't know from I would have pick.
Speaker 2: Terry probably, Yeah, Terry and May are like the big ones,
Speaker 2: and sence.
Speaker 4: Yodi Yochdi is pretty popular.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure many people specifically know Sophidia by names.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe that was just you know, she left an
Speaker 1: impression on a twelve year old blossoming Mike Manatti, uh blossom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I thought you might pick Geese.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Sean Geese is like very specifically just for fighting
Speaker 2: game fans, Like, I'm not sure anyone who like doesn't
Speaker 2: really play Fighting Games even knows who Geese is. I'll
Speaker 2: be completely honest, I didn't know who Geese was until
Speaker 2: he was in Tech and seven because I just wasn't
Speaker 2: into King of Fighters at that point.
Speaker 4: No, Seek.
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 4: Seek Free?
Speaker 1: Yes, Freed is just worse nightmare.
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's literally nightmare. Seek Freed is nightmare.
Speaker 1: They just blow your Mind's just it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even between two and three or something like that,
Speaker 1: between between so Edge and Soul Caliber.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I don't know. But yeah, he's just at the.
Speaker 4: Same time, So how could he be one if both
Speaker 4: of them shows up.
Speaker 1: It's always like a hidden character. And like at some
Speaker 1: point in the games he he becomes free of Soul
Speaker 1: Calbur and then his armor becomes animated.
Speaker 2: Without gets the I and yeah, it's all about that
Speaker 2: catch up
Speaker 1: On your soul Cawbury Lord, alright, bring it back, all right,