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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious podcast. We are here with part two of

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our Big Twins, Big Twins episode. You have got something

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for you, so let me just lay it all out

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here on the floor, right, let me find a middle

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c here.

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Speaker 2: And here we go.

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Speaker 1: Heart and soul.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ready.

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Speaker 1: So for that scene, they had doubles, I know, right,

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they had doubles. Now, I don't know how to put

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together exactly all of the stories that I heard, but basically,

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Robert Loja and Tom Hanks know that they have doubles,

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and the doubles are there in case they're not good

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enough dancers to pull it off themselves. Right, Robert Loja

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and Tom Hanks cut out two different cardboards, go home

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and practice this because there's no freaking way they're gonna

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let the doubles steal their thunder. Absolutely, and it is

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the one of the most memorable scenes in movie history.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge scene and have those actors pull that

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off is so vital to the heart and soul this movie.

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Speaker 1: Haha. See what you did there, chopsticks? All right? So

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so you know, let's that brings us We're talking about

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the production and the what we love about these movies

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right now? Okay, yes, so Big is one of those

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movies that hit me right where it needed to hit

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me right when. I mean told you I'm the same

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age as these guys. I'm identifying with everything that they're

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going through. And there's I'm watching this movie and there's

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literally not one single scene that they got wrong. Like

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everything works. And I know you have some.

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Speaker 3: Problems with tip in your hand here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Okay, I told you that once I

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was done with Kelly Priston, I was done with Twins.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I do have some problems with Big, right,

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So let me just say when I was like, Okay,

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I can't wait for my kids to be old enough

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to watch Big because obviously it's you know, it's questionable

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in parts.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's some sexual references and such, and so

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I was super excited. And then when I got it,

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somehow I ended up getting the extended version, and so

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when I watched that with my kids, I'm like, this

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doesn't seem right. And then I'm like, wait a minute,

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this is not a scene that was in the original movie.

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And then I go back, I'm like, oh crap, how

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did I get the extended version. So for those of

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you who have the opportunity to see the extended version,

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don't it sucks. Don't do that, Okay. The way that

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they put each of these scenes together in the theatrical cut, editing, timing, everything,

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thing is perfectly on point, and it gets ruined in

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the extended version, So don't watch that.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like Star Wars, keep going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, heck yeah.

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Speaker 3: So what what did you see that wasn't in the

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theatrical I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was. I mean, my oldest is twenty now,

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so that's you know, she was probably twelve, okay, and

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when that happened, and I tried to erase it from

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my memory.

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Speaker 3: Really, I heard that there was some stuff with Billy's

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parents and they weren't very nice.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. Okay, I don't even remember that part.

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So so they're just moment to moment. We talk about

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how important that scene is with the keyboard and how

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memorable it is. But you've got the scene on the

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trampoline with Elizabeth Perkins, which is fantastic. You got the

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scene in the limo where he stands up and is

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having fun. You get the scene where he is putting

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together his apartment. I mean, that's a memorable scene for

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me because I'm thinking, Yes, this is where I want

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to live when I grow up. I want to have

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a big, like warehouse style apartment, and I put in

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a pinball machine, and I can skateboard and drink PEPSI

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bump bed and a trampoline. I mean, heck yeah, I'm

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wanna throw the baseball and have the coke pop out.

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That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, should we talk about my problems with Big?

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Speaker 1: Sure, let's go ahead.

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Speaker 3: You want to get into I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you where you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I agree with you that Big is an

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immensely charming movie. It's lots of fun. I was just

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to touch old, so it didn't hit me straight Bullseye

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Summer of eighty eight. But I still got the charm

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and Tom Hanks is lovable. How could you not love it?

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So for me, I have just a couple of issues.

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Josh's mom is in hell the entire movie, and my

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heart breaks for her, and it broke in eighty eight

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when I saw him, like this woman thinks her child

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has been kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: You have my boy, yeah, and you're gonna get him

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back just the way he was.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 3: I swear to God if you do anything to him,

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if you touch one hair on his head, I will

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spend the rest of my life making sure you suffer.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, We just glaze over that, glazy glaze over that.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Josh writes her letters and tells her how much funny

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is having like at summer camp, and she's like, my

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child has been kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: Listen when that scene happens. Just keep in mind this

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is this is a mom that loves her kid and

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a kid that loves his mom. When he becomes big

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for the first time, his first instinct is like, I've

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got to fix this before mom finds out. Right, He goes,

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He drides his bike and goes back to the find

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the Zoltar machine at the fair. Except when he gets there,

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fair's gone packed up and moved and the Zultar machine

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has moved with them, right right, And then the next

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first instinct, I can't fix this myself. Does he go

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to Billy, his very best friend in the whole world. First, No,

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he goes to his mom and tries to explain to

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his mom and she goes nuts, right, threatens him with

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a butcher knife. I mean, I can see how he

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might get a little freaked out at that point, and right,

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and then next he goes to Billy. I love how

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Dad is like a minor character in this, like why

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would we talk to dad?

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Speaker 3: And just where's Cracodile has this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's yeah. And so by the way, in casting,

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I noticed you didn't talk about who played baby sister

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in this. Yeah, they don't know who it is, like literally,

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like there's not a credit given. And so to this day,

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thirty five years later, nobody knows it is a mystery.

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So he goes to talk to Billy and they show

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this as a big problem, right, Like the one who's

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most worried about this, it seems to be Josh, Like

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he's panicked. I don't know what to do. Great, I

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want to be thirty years old for the rest of

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my life, right, Like that's the culmination, after they go

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through all of these steps to try to fix this problem.

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He doesn't want this to have happened. And I think

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the fact that he can't go talk to his mom

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about it, we've established that because he tried it was

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the first thing he tried. And then just before they

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leave and go to New York, they're walking by Josh's

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house and the police are talking to her and they're like, well,

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they didn't leave a ransom note. I don't know, and

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like the other kid that you're standing outside, I wish

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I could run away. Yeah, you should go ahead, back up,

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let me back for you. Yeah, And so they touch

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on it. But you can't make that the focus of

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the movie. This is a feel good movie.

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Speaker 3: I understand. I'm just saying my heart as a parent

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breaks for this.

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Speaker 1: Woman, and it should and it should, but that can't

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be I mean, that's what's not what the movie is about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's the flip side, the other side of the

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coin of big. Yeah, there's a Mel Gibson movie where

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he's the detective and there's a child that's been taken

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and he's interviewing the parents, and by god, he needs

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to interview that boy next door because he's the best

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friend and he knows something right and he's going through

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the slums of New York trying to figure out where

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this kid went. By god, and this is the last

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case I saw, and by God, I'm gonna do it.

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We don't get to see that movie. That'd be a

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movie I'd want to see.

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Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, and then and the culmination is that he's

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kidnapped because he turned big after making a wish on

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a carnival game.

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Speaker 3: Well, and also he's investigating the fact that he got

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a phone call from Melantoys from the kidnapper. And when

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he goes to show up there there's a new employee

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by the name of Josh Baskin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Also, adult Josh Baskin goes missing. His coworkers don't know

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what happened.

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Speaker 2: Where did he go?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one minute he's presenting he's the superstar of the company,

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vanished without a trace.

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Speaker 1: It's this weird look on his face, just kind of

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wanders off.

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Speaker 3: Here's the meeting. Nobody sees him again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, mel Gibson's got his hands full.

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Speaker 1: Why Mel Gibson, Why Nicknalty, Gary Busey, some sort of

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exactly there you go. Okay, so tell me what your

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other problems are. Uh.

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Speaker 3: My other problems have to do with the sexual nature

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of the relationship between an adult woman and a child.

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And I understand that this is a fantasy and we're

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all seeing it through Josh's eyes, and I know she

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didn't know better. There's a thirteen year old kid and

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a thirty year old.

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Speaker 1: Woman who have sex, right, but he's in a thirty

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year old body.

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Speaker 3: I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I understand it, so it'd be a lot worse. It's

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the other way around.

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Speaker 3: Really hard to get around that part. Yeah, other than that,

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Speaker 1: So those two, just those two things, just those two things, Okay,

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I think you're wrong about the mom thing. I think

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they give it exactly as much attention as it deserves.

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I mean, talk about the moment where he has to

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sing her the song and she's crying and he feels awful.

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That's that is exactly what needs to happen and is

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the entire breadth of what needs to happen with the

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mom and it's a touching, touching moment.

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Speaker 3: There is a funny moment there too as well, where

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she's like, ask him the song I used to sing

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to him and he's like, would you rather ask him else?

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So funnyom.

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Speaker 1: The corner of my mom.

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Speaker 3: Well gives and needs to trace that phone called to

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the toy department, what a weird thing. Yes, okay, you

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said that whenever you were this age and these movies

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came out, you thought they were both cute movies. They're

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both cute movies, enjoyable, but nothing that like wowed you

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to death. I don't. I think that they are among

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the best movies of the eighties or even eighty eight.

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So in the summer of eighty eight, you had Coming

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to America come.

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Speaker 1: Out, yeah, which we've covered.

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Speaker 3: Which we've covered, and I thought was fantastic. And then

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we had this other movie where terrorists take over the

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Knaka Tony Plaza, which we've covered, which we've covered Against

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Leith Weapon that's one of my favorite episodes. Right, I

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was much more interested in what John McClain was doing

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than Josh Baskin. Okay, but I still I get it.

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I enjoy these movies. I like the charm of both

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of them. I think they're both cute, they're funny. I've

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got a smile on my face the entire time. Now

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I don't bust out laughing the entire time like I

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did the first time I saw Coming to America. But

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they're both enjoyable movies.

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Speaker 1: So whenever you watch The Big again for this, did

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it move the needle for you? Did you change your thimet?

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Speaker 3: I liked it better. I liked it better because I'm

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an adult. I'm the you know, I'm the older Josh.

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Even though we're not spot on the idea of being

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young again. It's a fantasy, right.

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Speaker 1: We've got that question that you dropped on the last

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episode that we're going to have to cover here in

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a little No. No, I'm anxious to hear what you think. Yeah, yeah,

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so shall we talk about twins.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about twins.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Twins. I didn't see in nineteen eighty eight.

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I saw it for the first time a night and

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a half ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't good? Not at all. No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like it.

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Speaker 1: No, And I mean, obviously I've revealed where I'm going

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to end up on these you know, final judgment is revealed.

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Sorry spoiler alert. But no, I mean I wanted to

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enjoy it very much, and as I watched it, I

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had to keep reminding myself, Okay, this is nineteen eighty eight,

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pacing right, this is not this is not the comedy

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of today. That it needs to hit me a little

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bit faster. Events need to occur a little bit faster

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for my short, short attention span. This is nineteen eighty eight,

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and so the delayed humor is something that I just

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kind of got to remember how to enjoy. But even

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telling myself that, there were like two moments where I

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kind of chuckled at something that Danny DeVito said, you would.

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Speaker 2: Tell your brother he messes with me, he messes with my.

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Speaker 1: Old family, and then kept expecting it to go somewhere

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that it never went. I mean, the end. I knew

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from the beginning that they would find their mother again.

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I knew that from the beginning because I could just tell.

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It was just that I know that's what's going to happen, sure,

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But there were so many opportunities that I felt like

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they had that they didn't fulfill, and then they threw

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something into the middle that I thought, well, if we'd

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had a little bit of the beginning, then it would

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have made a little more sense. But this is just

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kind of some random act that now is happening in

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this movie, and I just was like, not that funny.

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It all seems to be built on I mean, the

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success of this movie is all built on the ridiculous

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idea of the premise of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito.

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These polar opposites are twins joke. It's a great it's

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a great premise. It's a great premise, and I felt

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like guys from The Trading Places and guys from these

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other monumental movies that figured out how to do it.

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Later on, I thought they would deliver more in this one,

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and then just they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want to hear my problem with Twins. Okay,

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So Jeff Johnson and I always talked about the Calvin cut, Right,

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what would I change about this movie to.

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Speaker 1: Make it better?

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Speaker 3: So the initial joke is that Julius finds out he's

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got a brother and he's been missing and they're going

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to reunite. That's a great premise. And then it kind

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of collides with a Miami Vice episode of Beetroot and

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the stolen V eight engine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the turbocharge, the turbo charge thing, now fuel injected,

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that's it.

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Speaker 3: Fuel jestation. Yeah, that's right. So, first of all, that's

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not a big enough mcguffin for me.

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Speaker 1: Nope.

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Speaker 3: The arc of the Covenant in the back of somebody's trunk.

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You know, let's raise the stakes a little bit or.

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Speaker 1: Something, right, Well, I mean, and you expect it to

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be drugs the whole time. Yeah, and then it's like

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it's a fuel injector. Uh okay, well that's a weird,

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interesting thing to do.

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Speaker 3: It's a left blinker for a new car coming out.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, go ahead, Colvin Cutt.

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Speaker 3: So, I think that if they had started off giving

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us a little bit of the backstory on that particular

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thing at the beginning of the movie, you know, bad

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guys or hey, they knock off somebody, they steal it

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from a corporate warehouse somewhere, and they, you know, beat

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roots involved. And we know who the bad guys are.

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We know what this item is, we know how important

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it is or how valuable it is, and that story

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parallels to Julius and Vincent. But we just kind of

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collide with that part of the story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then you and I talked about the bad guy.

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I thought he was kind of menacing, but you said

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you kind of liked him.

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Speaker 1: I did kind of like him. And this guy, this

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is the Webster character. This is Marshall Bell, the guy

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who was supposed to get the car and supposed to

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deliver the fuel injection engine for five million dollars right right,

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And I texted you, I'm like, hey, I wonder if

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he's this guy and Ernie are friends because he is

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the prophet or at least the guy who has the

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profit baby in his belly from Total Recall, I know

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that blew me away, which we covered with We covered

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Total Recall with the guys from a thirty something.

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Speaker 3: I did do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so thirty something movie podcast, we did Total Recall

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episode with him, and this guy's in it, and I

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thought he was. He was funny. I mean, you know,

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I just you know what, nobody's ever I was supposed

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to deliver this and you know what, nobody's ever seen

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my face boom boom boom. Like he's terrifying but also

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kind of you know, likable. Sure, but yeah, I'm with you, like,

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if you're going to introduce that, give us something in

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the beginning, don't just randomly The only thing, the only

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foundation that they lay is that David Caruso tells Danny

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DeVito when there are cars that are worth something, he

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could come and steal and fence to this other car.

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Dealership or whatever. Right, it doesn't lay any foundation about

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the fuel injection engine and why Webster's involved there, any

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of that that is not late. What foundation is late

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at the beginning is, hey, we did this massive scientific

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experimant involving this beautiful woman and these five different fathers,

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put them all together to create the perfect human being,

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perfect physically, perfect mentally, you know, educated on this island,

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raised in a tropical paradise to create this perfect being. Great.

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That is a fantastic premise. And then five minutes in

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the movie, he rows off the island with their blessing

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and never comes back. We don't know why they did it.

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We don't know why they let him go so easily.

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It's just like, well, we spent all this money and

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all this time and thirty it's their thirty fifth birthday,

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thirty five years and we'll just say, oh, you want

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to go see you brother, all right, see you later,

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and we don't tell you why we did all this

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in the first place.

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Speaker 3: See, I asked myself that very question. I'm like, what's

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going on at the island? You know, I think that

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the experiment was like officially shelved. And then you have

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that one doctor just kind of raising Arnold because there's

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neally no other explanation because they just.

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Speaker 1: Let him go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I sent you a picture. I don't want

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to beat this lady up. But the island that Arnold

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Schwarzenegger lives on in the opening scene where he's rowing away, yeah,

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there's a giant lady straight out of a trailer on

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the beach with him. So clearly not everybody's eating health

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food and studying philosophy.

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Speaker 1: I must have missed that. Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they hang their hat on two jokes. One, Danny

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Veto and Arnold Schwarzenegger are twins.

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Speaker 2: Genetic garbage.

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Speaker 1: We're twins, we're basically the same. And two, Arnold Schwarzenegger,

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mister action hero himself, is this naive virgin for the

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first time in mainland America dealing with.

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Speaker 3: All of the let's talk about that crime and other stuff.

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When Kelly Preston seduces Arnold, so he is, I'm sorry,

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I lost track of food about this stuff in theory

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theory until the beautiful Kelly Preston shows up and.

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Speaker 1: They're a manual.

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Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. So yeah, in both movies, you

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have two men lose their virginity and both have friggin

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goofy as crap looks on their face in the next scene.

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And now that scene makes me laugh out loud in

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both movies. Yes, both of them have the goofy smile,

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super happy, their eyes have been opened and now they've

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leveled up.

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Speaker 1: And a coffee coffee yeah black right, Okay, now that's

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an important connection, right, both virgins both lose their virginity.

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And the other kind of key ingredient that we thought, hey,

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this is the right matchup to make is these are

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guys who are naive, kind of a fish out of

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water circumstance, right, and they both follow the hero's journey.

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Arnold goes from his tropical island to the underworld of

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La Josh Baskin goes from his suburban ideal life to

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the crime ridden streets of New York City. Another fantastic scene,

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by the way, where Tom Hanks is terrified and crying

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in bed after he uses his man body to shove

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the dresser in front of the door right door.

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Speaker 3: The guy's speaking loud in Spanish outside my door scares me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this both of so these movies are related. I

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mean not just in premise. Yeah, but these both of

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these movies were the People's Choice Awards winners, both winners

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they tied for the Favorite Comedy Motion Picture of nineteen

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eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, people love this movie.

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Speaker 1: There are two huge comedies that are definitely related. And

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it's just that I can't, for the life of me,

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I can't figure out how Twins is even close to

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being in the same category with me. You've noticed logic.

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Speaker 3: So here's the deal. When they were filming Twins, they

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knew they had a hit. When the crew would sit around,

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they want dailies, and everybody would laugh at the dailies,

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so they found it funny at the time. I thought

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it was funny at the time. Yeah, this is not

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sitting well with you though.

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Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing. You and I kind of

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talked about this. It seems like for the movies of

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the eighties. I guess this isn't true for my kids.

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So maybe it's either you're a kid when you see it,

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or you were a kid when you saw it for

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the first time. Sure like if you missed the boat

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on Twins in nineteen eighty eight as an adult, I

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don't think you're going to enjoy it because I tried

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real hard and I just didn't.

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Speaker 3: You and I talked about this. Yeah, there's something very

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important about the age you are and your expectation level

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when you see.

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Speaker 1: Something right, and I mean, and it's it's not as

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though I don't enjoy even older movies, like movies from

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the seventies and the sixties and fifties. I mean, we

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freakly covered M M and Psycho, which was nineteen thirty one,

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and I was captivated. I was absolutely captivated. And it

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was in a foreign language. For going to sake, I

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don't know. There's just something about so far my experience

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has been if I missed the boat, I don't love it, right,

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I didn't. I like Predator, but there were definitely moments

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in I had more laugh out loud moments and Predator

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than I did in Twins. And the laugh out loud

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moments were like the ridiculousness of the explosions and the

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guy the body's flying and the you are one ugly yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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that part was actually kind of funny. So it's interesting,

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you know, it's weird for me to say that being

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the host of an eighties movie podcast, But I think

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there is definitely something to be said about if you

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didn't catch it when it was in the eighties or

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when you were a kid.

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Speaker 3: It may not hate you, right, Okay, now listen to this. Yeah,

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you almost get your wish here. Because they had a

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sequel in mind for twins, right, called triplets yep, And

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for the longest time, like ten years, Eddie Murphy was

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attached to play the third brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I watched it an interview with Arnold Schwarzeneker. He was

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talking about how this is what was in the script.

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Mary Anne Benedict dies, Julius and Vincent find out who

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gets the money in the will, and she names a

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third brother and they find out it's Eddie Murphy. I mean, hilarious, right,

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great premise.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Now I don't know about the execution. But after about

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ten years, Eddie Murphy drops out. Then Tracy Morgan steps in,

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uh huh, and Tracy Morgan not quite as funny, but

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still good, right okay, And they were getting ready, they

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were all ready to go, and then Ivan rightman died.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Tragic.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if we'll ever get triplets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, Okay. So in addition to obviously being people's

474
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,759
choice for Comedy Award and being a box office powerhouse.

475
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,440
Twins Yeah, two hundred million dollars. Yeah, I mean, I

476
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,200
double big. I obviously have got the wrong perspective on

477
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,880
this movie. I don't know how I'm missing it, but

478
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,039
I'm obviously missing it because it was a monumental success.

479
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:07,160
And the song Twins from the movie Yeah, performed by

480
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,319
Philip Bailey and Little Richard himself. Oh yeah, hit number

481
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,240
eighty two on the Hot one hundred what Yeah, the song,

482
00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:20,400
I guess I don't. I don't even it has to

483
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,880
be because of the movie, because I can't, I mean,

484
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,359
the Twins. Would you have even known that that was

485
00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:27,039
a song before we did this?

486
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 3: No?

487
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: No, no, But at that point, people loved it so

488
00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:33,240
much that they even went out and bought the album.

489
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: Both of these movies for the record beat Diehard at

490
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,680
the box office, which alone is a travesty.

491
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah. The composers for this one were Jorjes de LaRue,

492
00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:46,440
who has won many many awards for his compositions. Okay,

493
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:50,480
and also Randy Edelman, who was the composer for mcguyvern. Yeah.

494
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: Randy Edelman a good friend.

495
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:55,799
Speaker 1: I got to say. The music on this one is

496
00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:59,440
very eighties and just kind of like it's like they're

497
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000
trying to I don't know, it's very Ivan, rightman. I

498
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:04,200
guess it's probably where I would go with this.

499
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: Okay, before you leave Twins, there's one piece of music

500
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,240
involved in Twins that I think works magically. It's when

501
00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:14,319
Arnold Schwarzenegger is on the airplane and he starts singing,

502
00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:16,480
yaki yah, don't talk back.

503
00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:20,839
Speaker 1: Take out the papers and the trash, or you don't

504
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,000
get no spending cash if you and don't scrap that

505
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,480
kitchen floor. You ain't gonna rock and roar no more

506
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,359
yak the yak, don't talk back.

507
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: It's funny that people love that moment in the theater.

508
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,039
Speaker 1: What I thought was hilarious about that moment is when

509
00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:39,839
the flight attendant comes to talk to him, he can't

510
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:44,000
stop looking at her boobs, just like just like Josh Baskin.

511
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:47,559
Speaker 3: In Big Sorry, I have never heard rock and roll before.

512
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: So cinematographer, this one is a guy named Andras bar Tucklewick.

513
00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:56,240
It's easy for you to say, okay. He is famous

514
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,480
for exit wounds and speed and doom. Okay, sure, all right?

515
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,279
That brings us back over to Big, where our cinematographer

516
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:12,680
is a Kai. We've just talked about Barry Sonefeld. Yeah,

517
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:17,359
so Barry Sonefeld was the cinematographer for Raising Arizona by

518
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,599
the Coen Brothers. Steve, of course, goes on to do

519
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,640
many Big things, including Men in Black. As I was

520
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,160
watching Big Again, I'm thinking to myself, there is a

521
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,480
style that Penny Marshall has that is very reminiscent of

522
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:35,680
her former husband Rob Reiner. They both have a warm

523
00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:39,599
feel to what they are filming that I think paints

524
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,839
a very pleasing picture. It's the perfect for a feel

525
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,319
good movie.

526
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,799
Speaker 3: Think about Rob Ryaner in eighty seven, he does Princess Bride. Yeah,

527
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:49,599
one of the best movies in these Yes, Penny Marshall

528
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,680
turns around, does Big one of the most revered.

529
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Movies in the nineteen eighties. Yes, it's a.

530
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: Pretty good one too, Combo a couple of years, Yeah,

531
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,319
not to mention stand by Me.

532
00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: And exactly Yeah, and Awaken, I mean a league of

533
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:07,839
their own. These those two have done some phenomenal movies,

534
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,519
no question about it, no question about it. With Big Again,

535
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:12,079
this is where it comes back up. I told you

536
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,920
Ivan rightman partnered up with a guy on Broadway to

537
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,839
do a Broadway musical before he hit it big as

538
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,960
a film producer and director. The guy he partnered up

539
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,960
with was Howard Shore.

540
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

541
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,559
Speaker 1: Was the composer for Lord of the Rings, along with

542
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:31,319
a billion other things, including Big. He was the composer

543
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,599
for Big, and I felt like the music in Big

544
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:39,000
was so much better and so well placed. You just

545
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,920
I mean, if you just alone, you just think about

546
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,160
the music that was the key theme for the Zoltar machine.

547
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,480
You hear that, and you and you know, oh, okay,

548
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,279
there's something going on with the machine. And he just

549
00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:53,839
gives you that little cue that's mysterious and a bit

550
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,160
you know, foreign and magical, because if you think about that,

551
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,759
this movie is about one magic moment that they don't

552
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:06,920
have to explain any further. We know the video game

553
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440
is what caused it. Yep. The video game is what

554
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,480
fixes it, yep. Everything else they are dealing with it

555
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:17,960
as if it is absolutely really happening. You know, It's

556
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,640
not like you've got this big, ridiculous premise like a

557
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,599
father and son twitching bodies and they don't explain. It's

558
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,599
like you have a terrified twelve year old kid in

559
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,279
the body of a thirty year old adult. They both

560
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,920
he and his best friend know the solution. They've got

561
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,400
to find the game again and remake the wish. And

562
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,319
then what do they do. They have to go and

563
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:42,279
look at video game stores, and then the video game

564
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,640
guys obviously are like, well, you need to go to

565
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,559
this you know, government office, and they can tell you

566
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,319
when the affair was there and the games were there.

567
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,880
And the ladies like, fill this out and triplicate and

568
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,119
we'll take a month to process and we'll let you

569
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,599
know in six weeks. Six weeks. Yeah, if you're lucky. Yeah,

570
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,480
I mean that's real. That's government work right there. That's real.

571
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing along with that idea. Okay, we

572
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,480
talked last episode about the alternate universe where there's a

573
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:15,480
Mel Gibson movie where he's investigating the kidnapped child in

574
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,359
Big I would also propose that there's a missing movie

575
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:25,920
where Billy realizes that Josh got his wish ranted by

576
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,680
this machine. And while Josh is, you know, going back

577
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,519
home playing stickball and saying hi to mom, Billy's there

578
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:40,359
going I want a billion dollars you know, or Elizabeth

579
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,079
Perkins's character Susan decides she wants to pursue Josh, and

580
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440
there is rumors that they actually filmed this ending. I

581
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,720
couldn't find it anywhere where she would then wish to

582
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:53,720
be young. And actually the rumors are that they shot

583
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:56,799
this ending where Josh is back in school and the

584
00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:59,799
teacher says, class, we have a new student. Her name

585
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,720
is Susan and she walks in a little girl.

586
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: Little girl in pigtails. Yeah. I'm so glad that they

587
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,440
didn't do that. That would have been too Hollywood. It

588
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,119
would have The ending of this movie where she sees

589
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,960
him walking away and shrinking down to young Josh in

590
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,079
the suit is heartbreaking. And I think her explanation of

591
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,319
that was that was a hard time to go through

592
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,240
and I don't want to go through that hard time again.

593
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,920
It needs to stay that way. Now. They did make

594
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,240
a movie. They made a movie called Little in twenty nineteen.

595
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,599
What yep. They made a movie and a woman is

596
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,119
transformed into the younger version of herself when the pressures

597
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:42,640
of adulthood become too much to bear, and its stars

598
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:49,759
Regina Hall and Isa Ray both great actresses, but it

599
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,119
was not a success at all. It is a got

600
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:54,039
a five point five.

601
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got some tidbits for you.

602
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,759
Speaker 1: Okay, you're ready for excited for the tidbits, let me

603
00:29:58,839 --> 00:29:59,039
hit it.

604
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, what do you want?

605
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: First?

606
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,799
Speaker 3: You want twins? Do you want big?

607
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,839
Speaker 1: Let's go back to twins?

608
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: All right, So.

609
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: I got some tidbits for you on twins.

610
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: There you go.

611
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,119
Speaker 3: We talked about how Arnold Schwarzenegger did this money with

612
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,119
no salary. Dany Vito no salary, I Evan Riving, no salary,

613
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,519
and Arnold Schwarzenegger made thirty five million dollars on this movie.

614
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: Right, okay?

615
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: Now, Then he and Danny DeVito and Ivan Rightman went

616
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,400
on to make the movie Junior. Have you ever seen

617
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:35,720
that one?

618
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: No?

619
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: I haven't either. I have really no desire to see

620
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,799
that one now about a man getting pregnant?

621
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,079
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm out.

622
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,799
Speaker 3: But here's the deal. They were filming that movie, and

623
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,519
they would constantly play practical jokes on each other, Arnold

624
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,960
and Danny DeVito. So they had filmed this scene. Working

625
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,799
on this scene in the morning, and they broke for

626
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,160
lunch break, and during their lunch break, Danny DeVito came

627
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,000
to Arnold and said, you know, Arnold, you always give

628
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:00,960
me cigars. I've got a special suit for you, give

629
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,559
Smith's cigar. Arnold's like, great, this is awesome, thank you

630
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,039
very much, smokes it and when he goes back he

631
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,319
gets there and Ivan Ryman is like, okay, ready action

632
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,880
and Arnold's like.

633
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,039
Speaker 1: What's my line?

634
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: I can't remember my line. He's like, don't you remember

635
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,960
this is the scene we're working for before lunch. It's this, this,

636
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,279
and this. Yeah, He's like, we were working on a

637
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:20,039
scene before lunch.

638
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:20,799
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

639
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:26,119
Speaker 3: Couldn't remember anything? Okay, not not the situation, not the scene,

640
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,319
not the line. Well, it turns out Danny Dibto gave

641
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,319
him lots of marijuana pumped into that cigar.

642
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Ah, I gotcha.

643
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: So Arnold was stoned.

644
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: Gotcha?

645
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about the Rambo poster. As Julius is

646
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:46,599
walking around Lay, he sees a poster Rambo Part three,

647
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:47,920
which came out.

648
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: The summer of eighty eight, looks at his arms.

649
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: Miday's arms. Ah kind of waves him off. That is

650
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:59,359
in reference to a rivalry that Stallone and Schwarzenegger had

651
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,680
in the eighties. YEP, and actually it came to a

652
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:05,880
head on Stopper My Mom.

653
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:09,559
Speaker 1: Will Shoot Franks, Yes, Franks. Yeah. So I mentioned in

654
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:14,079
our last episode that one of the writers for this

655
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,480
movie for Twins was William Davies. He also co wrote

656
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:22,559
Stopper My Mom Will Shoot with author and famous Save

657
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,799
the Cat guy Blake Snyder, which is also notorious for

658
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,200
being one of the worst movies of all time, came

659
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,880
out in nineteen ninety two at Sylvester Stallone and Estelle

660
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Getty from The Golden Girls. Right, But how did still

661
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:41,039
Sylvester Stallone decide to do this obviously awful movie.

662
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: It was offered to Arnold Schwarzenegger and he kind of

663
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,880
feigned interest in it, and so Stallone got into that

664
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:49,519
and jumped on it. It was the old Whoopsie do

665
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,359
head faith Yeah, and Tchroizenegger thought this is gonna tank,

666
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:56,000
So I'll fake like I'm interested in it, He'll do it,

667
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,839
and it'll tank, and then I'll rise because he's taken.

668
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:02,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it worked, Yeah until Junior came out two

669
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,079
years later. Oh my God, followed not too long after

670
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:06,039
by Last Action Hero.

671
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Last Action here. I think this

672
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,000
summer are we yeah, went wrong, And actually that's not

673
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,720
really even the low point of Arn's career. Batman and

674
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,960
Robin one of the worst movies of the nineties.

675
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: So as I was watching Twins and he's like he

676
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,599
They've just got their matching suits, and he's like, do

677
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480
I look cool now, And Danny Deavita's.

678
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:29,359
Speaker 3: Like, mister Ice, yeah, yeah.

679
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: And I sent you a little gift of the Iceman

680
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,319
come with mister Freeze. Yeah, whosh, bad stuff.

681
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,119
Speaker 3: Danny DeVito played the penguin in Batman Returns.

682
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: That's right.

683
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, two Batman villains there.

684
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but mister Freeze is definitely the worst. Yeah. But

685
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,119
he also made twenty million dollars for that movie up

686
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,279
front at.

687
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:50,119
Speaker 3: Half on the back end front Twins, yeah, right, at

688
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,160
the end of this movie, he bought the entire crew

689
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,640
the born to Be Bad t shirt.

690
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,799
Speaker 1: That's fantastic, right. Yeah.

691
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: And actually the scene where he's learning to dance from

692
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:00,039
Danny DeVito.

693
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: Next to my feet, not on them.

694
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: There's another big movie in eighty eight where a man

695
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,920
teaches another man to slow dance. Came out right about

696
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,360
the same time. Rain Man, Right, Cruise and Dustin pfla.

697
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,199
Speaker 1: Hi sportship for that one too, I think so yeah

698
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,280
in the winter awesome.

699
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so that's it on my tidbits for twins.

700
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,199
Speaker 1: Okay, tut, you got on Big flipping back to Big.

701
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,079
Speaker 2: They are Josh basket. Remember you broke your arm on

702
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:28,679
my roof in my basement with Robert your hand. You look,

703
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,320
get it to you.

704
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,639
Speaker 3: This is important, Okay. So I thought this was fascinating.

705
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,360
The way Penny Marshall film Big. She would tell the

706
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,679
scene to David Moscow, he would act it out as

707
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best he could. Then he would step aside, and then

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Tom Hanks would act it out and he would base

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adult Josh actions on David Moscow's performance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great method. Yep.

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Speaker 3: The corn thing was absolute improv. Tom Hanks eating baby

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corn just a little bit like the kernels.

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Speaker 1: I mean the baby corn is one, but I mean

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the the caviar and he eats the caviar and he

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takes it out of his mouth. I mean, again, a

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perfect moment, a perfect This is what a twelve year.

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Speaker 3: Old that's yesh. He's throwing it on the floor and coughing,

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and then the whole time Elizabeth Perkins is throwing herself

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at him while he's gagging on this food.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of weird.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the shimmy shimmy coca pop rap that they say

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to each other or I don't know if you call it.

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Speaker 1: Rapper shimmy shimi coca pop sh shimmy rap. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Tom Hanks got that his son had been at summer

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camp came back and he had a variation of.

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Speaker 1: That, probably calling right.

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Speaker 3: Probably was, yeah, And they wrote the own lyrics for that,

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but they used the shimmy shumy coca pop from that song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what song is? What's the song called?

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Speaker 3: So apparently the shimmy shimmy cocoa pop song lyrics comes

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from a nineteen fifty nine song Little Anthony and the Imperials,

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and they pulled that from the fifties. Okay, it's a

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real song, all right, Oh, all right, My last little

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tidbit for you, okay that I am excited to drop

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on you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 3: The amusement park at the end is what they call

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Playland in Rye.

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Speaker 1: New York. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: This location is also used in Mariah Carey's fantasy video

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Wow your favorite Artist Mariah.

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Speaker 1: Carey carry I don't want to try to do a

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Patreon advertisement with my with Mariah Carey as the premise.

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Oh you have to no listen, guys, join Patreon, not

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from Mariah Carey, but for everything else One Hit Wonders

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Patreon dot com, backslash Shirly podcast, and you'll get access

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to all of our one Hit wonder and other kind

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of infamous songs of the eighties and maybe seventies and

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maybe nineties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, including all I Went for Christmas is stop.

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Speaker 1: People will not sign up if you tell them that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the I've got a question for you. Okay,

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we really need to answer this big question. Yep, your

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adult Josh, you have skipped middle school, you have skipped

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high school and college. You are now an important executive.

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You're making great money. You have this wonderful Manhattan penthouse

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apartment with the trampoline and Space Invaders and a coke

758
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machine where you don't need any coins. You got a

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girlfriend who's super cute and you are killing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you go back to your house and mom and

762
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dad and the crocodile hats.

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Speaker 1: In a heartbeat?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Tell me why? In a harby because because Mom and

766
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I don't want to get too personal. But in nineteen

767
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eighty eight, I lost my mom, right, And so you

768
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mentioned before that one of your big problems with the

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movie is that this mom is in hell without him,

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and I mentioned she's the first person that he goes

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to whenever this problem happens, because it's a problem, it's

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a wish come true, that is a curse. And so

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the first person when he can't fix it himself, first

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00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:56,320
person he goes to is mom. And obviously she doesn't

775
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get it, and that's the problem. But there's no way

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he would and there's no way I would leave my

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mom in hell wondering what happened to me too important?

778
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,639
I mean, yeah, hooking up with the hot girl at

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work and the cool apartment and all of that stuff

780
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is stuff I dreamed of as a young twelve year old.

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Speaker 3: But you go back tomorrow, Yep, I agree with you.

782
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That's great, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: Now, then you're on Schwarzenegger. You've been raised on a

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perfect island. You go see the big city in La.

786
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You meet your brother, Yeah, you marry a beautiful woman.

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You have twins, yeah, you raise them in La. Do

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you go back to the island?

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Speaker 1: Take Kelly Preston back to the island, start a nudist colony. Yeah,

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I mean, heck, yeah, I'm going yes, yes, yes, I

791
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told you my biggest problem with the island because we

792
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really don't know that much about it. But I mean

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the idea of, hey, I get all of my needs

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00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,079
provided for, right, I've got all the physical training I need,

795
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the perfect diet, I can study whatever I want to study,

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00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:04,800
all that stuff. The biggest problem is he's gotten nobody

797
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to talk to. I don't have Adjason Colvin to go

798
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talk to all my stuff. Yeah, it's not paradise, right. Yeah.

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So if you're bringing back Kelly Preston and we can

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talk stuff together and make twins throughout the years, yeah,

801
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go back to the island and bring a friend.

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Speaker 3: With you, grab your brother and his family, grab your family,

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go back to the island.

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00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:26,599
Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. All right, are we

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ready for final judgment?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, final judgment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we already know where you stand, so go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I haven't kept it a secret.

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I didn't see Twins in the eighties, and I think

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that's a big problem for enjoying the movie because going

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back and watching it and not having seen it, I

813
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,360
did not like it. I didn't think it was funny.

814
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A couple of chuckle moments. The highlight is Kelly Preston,

815
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and that is all this movie has to offer for me.

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I will say, Kindergarten Cop the next Ivan Rightman Arnold

817
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Swarzenegger matchup, I think is absolutely fantastic. It's funny. I

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think they did it right by not making him kind

819
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of goofy and naive, but making him a tough cop

820
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who has to deal with a comedic situation. I thought

821
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it was great, loved it, would watch it over and

822
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over again. But again, I saw that one in the

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theater when it came out big. I did see in

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the theater, and I have loved from the first day

825
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I saw it till now. It is a perfectly made movie,

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and it is miles and miles away my first choice

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over Twins.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. All right, So I think that's interesting. Again, it

829
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matters when you see it, it matters. Nostalgic matters, right, Yeah.

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When I think about these two movies, I saw both

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in the theater. I had warm memories about both of them.

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So when I go back and revisit, I watch Twins

833
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and it's cute, and I like the joke between Schwartzenegger

834
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and Danny DeVito. I mean, you have to have some

835
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sort of liking to that premise or the whole movies

836
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in the tank, and I think it's a great premise.

837
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I think it's funny. The little brother who came out

838
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as the crap from the milkshake, right, that's all funny. Yeah,

839
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,239
great premise. When I went back and watched Big, I

840
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told you both of these movies were sort of off

841
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Bull's Eye for me. Right, I liked him, I didn't

842
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:11,840
love him at the time. Diehard blew my socks off?

843
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,920
So where did these movies stand in comparison to that?

844
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It was no contest. But now that I'm a father,

845
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I'm an adult, Big is just so darn charming and

846
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so fun. I have my issues with it, mainly because

847
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:27,079
Mercedes rules character is just absolutely in torment for six weeks.

848
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But it's Big all day, every day, one hundred percent

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of the time.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Wow, Yeah, Hey we agree. I really thought I

851
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didn't think that that was what was going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, last Yeah, I love Big.

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Speaker 1: So what about Twins?

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Speaker 3: I like it. I love Kelly Preston. She looks absolutely

855
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stunning in this movie.

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Speaker 1: Kind of beating that over the head. Haven't we.

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Speaker 3: The highlight?

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Speaker 1: You know? It is the highlight.

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Speaker 3: It is the highlight. Yeah, And I'll say this, Arnold

860
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Schwarzenegger looks great. He is at his mister Olympia best

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in this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he's funny. It's just a one jug movie and

864
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,840
it's cute. I would say Twins good, big better and

865
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Diehard great and die Hard great.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's hilarious. Well, Shirley fans, tell us what you think.

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What do you pick on these? What are your nostalgia

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memories of these? Are you at this point wanting to

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go back and watch them with your own kids, because

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there's a good chance that your kids are gonna like them.

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So tell us what you think. Hit us up on Facebook,

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hit us up on Twitter, Email us at Shirleypodcast at

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gmail dot com. We'd love to hear from you. Looking

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forward to hearing those reviews like we got last week

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that you guys can coct and even if you've left

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a review before, feel free to leave another one. I

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got a shout out to Kevin Davis right now. Okay, yes,

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so Kevin Davis gives us a review basically every time

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we release a new set of episodes. I love it.

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I love hearing what he has. I's a Patreon member

881
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and he one of his hobbies. He's an engineer, but

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one of his hobbies is to design guitars like to like.

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He paints them and makes them beautiful. And I had

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this kind of old guitar that I thought, oh, let

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you know, hey, Kevin, would you be interested in doing this?

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And he's like, oh, yeah, I love it. It is my thing.

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And he has ripped his hair out trying to make

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this thing work. But it's such a piece of crap

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car that he's just like, Okay, so I just bought

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you a new guitar and I'm going to design that

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for you. And I was like, great, that's fantastic, let's

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just do that. So shout out to Kevin Davis. I

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truly appreciate your brother. It is great too. I see

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him frequently when I go to study my stuff for

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the podcast. I'm in a restaurant and he'll show up

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and I'll end up talking to him all the time.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, we really do appreciate you. I'd love to be

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joining these days. And thank you for your constant reviews.

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I love seeing those two.

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Speaker 1: He told me that he and James Buckley are now

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close friends on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's great, that's great. Okay, let me tell you

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what we've got next next week with our buddy Dale

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Selby Patreon. Dal Selby, You're diving into poisons. Open up

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and say ah sweet CD.

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Speaker 1: Another nineteen eighty eight Memory for Me for Sure.

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Speaker 3: Released May third, nineteen eighty eight. Big songs Nothing but

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a Good Time, Fallen Angel and of course every Rose

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has its still come back next week. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys,