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And uh, but I did want to 122 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:49,000 talk to you, and you were gonna be on with 123 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,399 us to talk about the exciting game in Buffalo. I 124 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:55,360 mean that was just nuts and we'll get into all that, 125 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:58,839 but I gotta tell you like parenting, and I think 126 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:02,439 you'll be able to late to this a little bit 127 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:06,040 better than maybe some other people. With Jamison, you know, 128 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:09,319 he's he's fourteen, wanting to try out for basketball, big 129 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,800 big focus for him, and yet at the same time 130 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:16,680 is absolutely petrified to try out for basketball, like it's 131 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:20,199 been it's been this like tug of war thing. And 132 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,600 then on the way back from Thanksgiving, he's telling me 133 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,800 about how he really, you know, basketball, he wants that 134 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:28,839 to be his path and you know this and that 135 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:31,639 and the other thing. And then last night I don't 136 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:34,279 think slept at all. He was up by five a 137 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,399 m h. And then I get a text later in 138 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:39,200 the day saying, Dad, I don't want to do this. 139 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:41,240 I think I just want to go to a cyo 140 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,879 basketball you know, a league or something like that. I 141 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:47,120 think it would be better. I don't. I don't think 142 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:48,919 I'm ready. I don't think this. I don't think that. 143 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:53,120 So I had In the meantime, I'm scrambling. 144 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: Normal all normal and natural reactions one hundred. 145 00:08:57,879 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: So here's where things get a little funky for me, 146 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:03,559 because now I'm caught in the middle of this because 147 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:06,399 I had to take him out early the day. They 148 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,840 had a meeting, so we're a little behind on getting 149 00:09:08,879 --> 00:09:13,360 stuff in and I'm, you know, emailing back and forth 150 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:15,480 with different coaches and things. And I got to tell 151 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,399 you that, like the team where he's at has been 152 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,360 so amazingly wonderful. I have been blown away. And I 153 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:28,120 told that to the athletic director today. So I say 154 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,720 to him. He says to me, when I pick him up, 155 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,919 you're disappointed, your you're upset, and I said, I'm not. 156 00:09:34,039 --> 00:09:35,679 I said, this is your choice, and he goes, well, 157 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:42,279 that's a passive aggressive thing, and I said, and I said, 158 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:46,039 it's really not, because it is your choice and that's it. 159 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,120 And I said, I don't really want to say anything 160 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,639 because I don't want you to think I'm being passive aggressive. 161 00:09:51,639 --> 00:09:53,399 That's horrible. I don't want to do that to you 162 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,279 and this. So we go home and he said, well, 163 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,960 I just think you're disappointed, and you know, I know 164 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,320 you really wanted me to do this. And I said, why, 165 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,919 I think you really wanted you to do this. So 166 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,200 he decides when he gets home, he's going to take 167 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,399 a shower and I'm thinking and I'm thinking, and he 168 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,440 comes out and I say to him, hey, listen, have 169 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,080 a seat for a second. I said, I've been thinking 170 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,480 about what you said and how you said. I'm disappointed. 171 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,080 And I said, I'm not disappointed if this is your choice, 172 00:10:21,799 --> 00:10:24,639 but I am disappointed because I don't think it's the 173 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,519 choice you want to make. And I wish you would 174 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,279 just push through the fear. I'm disappointed that you're not 175 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:32,639 pushing through the fear, I said, because there's going to 176 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,320 be other moments in life where you're going to have 177 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,519 to push through that fear. And I said. Then he goes, fine, 178 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,919 I'll do it. I don't want to talk about it. Anymore. 179 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,840 And as it turned out, since not all the paperwork 180 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,919 was in, I went and I said to him, then 181 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:50,399 we'll go and watch. You'll see what it's like. You'll see, 182 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,320 you know, how they're running things, and you'll have a 183 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:56,240 leg up and hopefully everything gets cleared by tomorrow and 184 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:59,200 you can participate in the in day two of the tryouts. 185 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,840 And they were all cool, right, So we went and 186 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:04,360 we watched, and I think it changed the perspective. But 187 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,720 there is that thing in life where everybody has that 188 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,679 human experience where you push through fear. And I go, Man, 189 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,879 if there's anybody I know who was pushed through fear 190 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:17,240 from you know, football and then playing at the collegiate 191 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,360 level and pushing yourself through law school, I mean, don't 192 00:11:21,399 --> 00:11:24,240 tell me that there wasn't fear along the way, or 193 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,559 at a couple of moments going what the f am 194 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,080 I doing? You know, I gotta think. 195 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,639 Speaker 2: Bill, I mean, every step along the way, there was 196 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,200 that fear. And the fear is failure, right. The fear 197 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,080 is letting my parents down and failing, and then letting 198 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,720 my family down and failing, and you know, and then 199 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:46,840 being judged is not being the person who I wanted 200 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:50,279 to be. And you know, I mean the easiest story 201 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,840 I can tell you about the fear of failure and 202 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,279 not in questioning whether I was worthy or whether I 203 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,200 had what it took. Just like Jameson went through that, 204 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:03,360 I was. I was at law school, yeah, and I 205 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,440 was out in Ohio all by myself the first time 206 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,320 in my life. I was really ever away from home 207 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,080 where I couldn't be and see my parents in like 208 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,840 an hour or so. And I'm out there on an 209 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:18,039 island and I before school even started. Classes hadn't even 210 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:21,080 started yet. And I called my dad up and I 211 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,799 was like, Dad, I don't belong here. I don't belong here. 212 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,159 The people here smart, I don't fit in. I'm in 213 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,799 the middle of nowhere in Ohio. This isn't the right 214 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,759 thing for me. And my dad was like, look, you've 215 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:36,360 never quit anything. He goes, you got to give it 216 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:38,559 a try. He goes, You're quitting before you're even starting, 217 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,679 so you don't even know what you're quitting on. What 218 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,960 you're quitting on is is a fear of not succeeding. 219 00:12:44,919 --> 00:12:46,879 He's the only way you can improve yourself, the only 220 00:12:46,919 --> 00:12:48,879 way you can move to the next level. The only 221 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,240 way you can grow is by going through these stages 222 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,799 of fear and breaking through it. You're going to find 223 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:56,759 out what your ceiling is. You can never touch your 224 00:12:56,759 --> 00:13:01,080 ceiling unless you unless you fail. Right, And he goes, look, 225 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,039 do me a favor, He goes, finish the first week, 226 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,840 stay there for a week. If after a week you 227 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,159 feel like you don't belong and this isn't the right 228 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,279 thing for you, that's fine, he goes, Whatever you do, 229 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,720 I support you, he goes, But I want you to 230 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,919 three yourself. I want you to give yourself a week. 231 00:13:17,759 --> 00:13:21,600 By the third day I was there, I was good. Yeah, right, 232 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:27,080 but I had I needed that. You know, my dad 233 00:13:27,639 --> 00:13:29,399 and just like you, you're you're not going to be 234 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:32,519 disappointed in him. No, if you try something and fails. 235 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:35,120 And I think what you were saying, and what my 236 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,000 dad was saying, is that the disappointment comes in where 237 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:41,480 you don't feel the comfort or the security in the 238 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,799 relationship to try something and fail, right, exactly, the biggest 239 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,480 successes come after failures. 240 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know, and I said to him, what's 241 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,519 the worst that's going to happen. You're going to be 242 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,039 right where you are today, right if you don't make 243 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,720 the team. And so then we went there. I think 244 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,240 he felt a lot better and hopefully all the paperwork 245 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,039 there's things from because he was living with his mom 246 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,000 in Alabama, just some paperwork, things that may have gotten 247 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,799 lost along the way, and some of that is I 248 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,559 take full responsibility on. We'll figure it out. But in 249 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,879 the meantime, it's more the attitude, because he did say 250 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:23,000 to me, you know, I was really upset, and I'm 251 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,879 in with a counselor now and I just I just 252 00:14:24,919 --> 00:14:26,399 don't want to do it, and I just I don't 253 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,039 want to disappoint you. And I'm thinking, You're never going 254 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,159 to disappoint me, right, You're just not. I don't want 255 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,200 you to disappoint yourself because I see what you're saying, 256 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,679 and I know where you want to be, and I 257 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:40,519 know what the path is that you want to go there, 258 00:14:40,559 --> 00:14:43,279 and it's this is an excellent coaching staff. So just 259 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,159 getting through that fear. But boy, it's such a human thing. 260 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,679 How many of us have not tried something for the 261 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,320 fear of failure. And that's what he said to me, 262 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:54,519 is if I don't make it, I don't I couldn't 263 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:56,399 handle it. I wouldn't be able to handle it coming 264 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,559 back here. And I thought even that I understand really 265 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:02,799 well because I never tried out for basketball, because I 266 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,480 never got cut from a team, and I knew I 267 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,840 wouldn't make basketball. And I always wish that I had, 268 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:12,120 especially had got cut, worked hard and came back, because 269 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,200 that teaches you so much that you know, those are 270 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,919 the things. And I think sometimes I go, boy, that's terrible. 271 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:21,080 I didn't have parents that were sports people. My dad 272 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,600 was like, you know, his his father was a big athlete, 273 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,480 got very injured and wouldn't let my dad or my 274 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:29,879 uncle really play sports. So my dad had no interest, 275 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,679 and I don't know where mine came. I loved it. 276 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:35,600 I loved all of them. I wanted to play everything. 277 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, and a lot of that is competition. I 278 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,759 mean in sports, the easiest thing for children to kind 279 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:45,519 of get or kids and even adults for us, is 280 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:47,440 that level of competition. You go to a court, you 281 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,399 go to a basketball court, you need a competition anywhere local, YMCA, 282 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:55,039 you know, out of a park, but but you know, 283 00:15:55,039 --> 00:15:57,279 it's that level of competition and where do you size 284 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,080 up and then how can you improve yourself? It's it 285 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,320 it's I mean, you asked me in one of our 286 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,600 prior discussions. You know what motivates you, yea, What motivates 287 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:09,639 you and what motivates me to work harder than everybody 288 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:12,320 else and to do the things that I do is 289 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,759 the fear that fail. I don't want to fail. I 290 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,679 never want to fail, and I have failed. I have 291 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,360 failed many, many, many times. But the fear comes in 292 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,639 that I think sets people. Part is how do you 293 00:16:24,679 --> 00:16:27,200 deal with the failure? You know? Do you take the 294 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,000 failure and bury your head in it and be like, 295 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,799 you know I'm no good I'm not good enough, you 296 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,960 know I'm not smart enough, and then just bury it 297 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,120 and then just do something else and stay in your 298 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,399 comfort zone. Or do you use that to then propel 299 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,279 yourself to say, how can I what can I do 300 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,039 differently so I don't fail the next time? And that's 301 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:48,039 always been my mindset is what can I learn from 302 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:49,039 this so I don't fail? 303 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: And I do think that failure is one of the 304 00:16:51,039 --> 00:16:54,559 biggest teachers. As long as you don't let it, you 305 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:57,240 don't bury yourself under the weight of the failure, you 306 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,240 don't let it get so in your head that you're 307 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:02,919 you're paralyzed now to even try anything again, because that 308 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,480 was just so devastating. And in that case, figure that out, 309 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:09,240 talk to somebody, have them help you get through that, 310 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:12,160 because you shouldn't, you should never let that happen. 311 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,799 Speaker 2: Well, that's the one thing when people talk when you 312 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:19,680 have extremely successful people, and they talk about their support network, 313 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,640 their support system, whether it be family, whether it be partners, 314 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,680 whether it be spouses or loved ones. It's when you fail, 315 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:29,000 how do they treat you? How do they build you up? 316 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:31,039 How do they help you? How do they catch you? 317 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,960 And in the support structures you have of the people 318 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,640 who have failed miserably but have come back with ultimate success. 319 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:40,480 Was the catch? You know? How did how did your 320 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:42,240 support network catch you when you failed? 321 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: Right? 322 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: You know? Was it critical? Was it like, yeah, you 323 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,480 knew you couldn't do it. You know, there was too 324 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,960 many people doing podcasts. You were never going to make it. 325 00:17:50,319 --> 00:17:53,839 You know, do something else, you're right there, then you're 326 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,400 going to get buried in that. Somebody says, oh, yeah, well, hey, 327 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,559 how about a different niche, how about a different vibe, 328 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:00,759 how about something else that you're interested in? You know, 329 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:02,839 what can you do to kind of catch your passion, 330 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,000 work with it, and and then and and and then 331 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:08,480 become better at you know, like, if he doesn't make 332 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:10,799 the team, Okay, what do you need to do to 333 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:11,279 get better? 334 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: What is it? 335 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,599 Speaker 2: Do you need more court time? Do you need more 336 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,440 handball handling? You need you need to get stronger? What 337 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,200 is it? You got to do better footwork? And then okay, 338 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,000 go cyo, go cyp, do that program, get the extra 339 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:26,200 core time, work with a trainer, do whatever it takes. 340 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,039 And then to come back. I mean again, the other 341 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,279 the athletic story everybody talks about in our generation is 342 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,400 Michael Jordan, Right, Michael Jordan got cut from his freshman 343 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,960 basketball team, became the best basketball player ever. 344 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know, I've refrained from saying that 345 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,960 because I didn't want to. You know, it's almost like 346 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,200 it's expected. I think that I would say something like 347 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,960 that to him. He's always, you know, waiting for the thing. 348 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,200 And I've just laid back and done more listening. But 349 00:18:56,279 --> 00:18:58,759 I thought, on this one, you got to push through 350 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:01,319 the fear because if you don't do it now, it's 351 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,720 going to hold you back a bunch of other things, 352 00:19:04,079 --> 00:19:07,640 whether it's something simply as asking a girl out right, 353 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:12,359 that fear and what could be a great relationship or 354 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,279 just something that you again you can learn from and 355 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,559 enhance your life, and you know, I mean just make 356 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,079 life better. Well, fear holds us back. 357 00:19:20,079 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean the fear of asking the girl low. 358 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: That was me, right, it was me too. 359 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: Come on, you know that I was. 360 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: I was afraid of the rejection, you know, and yes, the. 361 00:19:31,279 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: Ridicule that comes with it as well. And you know, 362 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,519 a kid his age coming from a different district back 363 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:41,160 into this district, you know, he's looking for inclusion, he's 364 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,240 looking to be accepted, he's looking to be all those things. 365 00:19:44,279 --> 00:19:46,960 And then the easiest way to then separate yourself to 366 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:49,559 do that is to be rejected, not make the team, 367 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,079 be ridiculed because you didn't make the team, all those 368 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,279 different emotions that come with it. So him him having 369 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:57,559 these questions and going through that as a natural thing. 370 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,480 And you know, I think what you're doing as a 371 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:03,039 parent for me is what I would hope every parent 372 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,039 would do is listen more and then just give him 373 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,480 a hug, tell him you love him the matter what 374 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:09,480 he does. You just want him to be able to 375 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:12,519 know that he's done everything he can to do and 376 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:13,599 achieve the goal that he. 377 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: Has for himself, right, And I think that that's really important. 378 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,640 And I think that on any level, right you've in 379 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,480 ourselves what are we kind of? You know, if you 380 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:24,680 took a good look, what am I afraid of? And 381 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:28,519 I should push through that? You know? I think I 382 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:31,920 heard that once from somebody going what is your biggest fear? 383 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:33,519 Go do that? 384 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, go do that? 385 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,279 Speaker 1: And that sometimes is pretty scary. The Bills though, I mean, 386 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,359 holy AFC East Champions, they sense that up yesterday. That 387 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:48,759 was a game that in the beginning, and I don't 388 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:51,000 know what it was like being there. I'm not sure 389 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:52,440 what it was like. You know, we can all look 390 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,519 at conditions. We can hear the guys talking about, you know, 391 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,440 not being able to get footing and the running being 392 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,799 a little bit slower. I saw some pictures from the 393 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,599 stands where people didn't even bother shovel it out. They 394 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,359 were just shoving their beers and making a nice smaller 395 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,319 and iglow cooler. But Greg, in the beginning, when I 396 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,440 saw McCaffrey, he looked like he was gonna run all 397 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,559 over the Bills. And then he leaves with an injury 398 00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:20,599 that now has turned into a season ending for him. 399 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean look, let me let me kind 400 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:26,720 of give you our perspective of going to the game, 401 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,079 decisions about going to the game when we were going 402 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,559 to lead. So we're in Rochester. Yeah, the grass is 403 00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:34,640 green here, there's snow. 404 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,839 Speaker 1: No such thing. This is all nothing. 405 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:39,799 Speaker 2: It's cold here. It was cold here, don't mean wrong, 406 00:21:39,839 --> 00:21:41,799 it was freezing, but there we didn't have any snow. 407 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:44,880 So having been back and forth so many times to Buffalo, 408 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:46,880 it was like, okay, you want to once you get 409 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,880 to the stadium. Because of lake effect, we drove. There 410 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,519 was one patch between Pembroke and and and Clarence where 411 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,319 there was snow on the grass, but the road was fine. 412 00:21:57,759 --> 00:21:59,839 We then get to Clarence, snow goes away. We get 413 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,400 to the air port, there's no snow. We get to Walden 414 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,400 ad which are where our office is, and all of 415 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,480 a sudden there's snow on the ground again, and then 416 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:09,640 there's snow into into Orchard Park. You get to Orchard Park, 417 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,359 there's two three feet of snow. 418 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 419 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:16,279 Speaker 2: It's freezing too, right because you're that much closer to 420 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:18,799 the lake now, you know, I don't know if people 421 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:21,200 can understand how close you are to the lake. When 422 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,960 you're at the stadium, You're pretty close. You're a mile 423 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:26,799 maybe or so, maybe two, and so you get the 424 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:29,720 winds coming off there, and it's it's just colder. It's 425 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:31,319 like going to the lake. It's like going to Lake 426 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,599 Ontario from Rochester. The closer you get to Lake Ontario here, 427 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:35,200 it just gets. 428 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:39,799 Speaker 1: That much closer, older, noticeably cooler by the lake, noticeably. 429 00:22:39,319 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: Cooler about it. And it's just freezing. It was like 430 00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:46,000 twenty seven degrees, but if the feel like temperature in 431 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:49,559 the weather forecast was like ten and it was cold. 432 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,440 But we get there, we start to tailgate the people 433 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,240 to camaraderie, the back and forth. There are people next 434 00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:59,319 to us we do fireball shots with, and you know, 435 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,599 the whole thing. It's going. All of a sudden, you 436 00:23:01,599 --> 00:23:04,400 get the juices flowing, you're listening to the radio, we're dancing. 437 00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:07,640 All of a sudden, you're not as cold. We go 438 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,079 into the stadium and it's it's it's snowing, but it's 439 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:17,799 not accumulating. It is the perfect snow globe experience for us. Now. 440 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,039 One of the things I am so excited about for 441 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,920 our new stadium and the fans that didn't go. It's 442 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,319 gonna be so exciting because I've the stadium with the 443 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,759 canopy is going to cover the whole upper deck, so 444 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,480 there'll be no snow in the seats. There's no heaters, 445 00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:37,000 but there be no snow in seats. It's a three 446 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:39,559 sixty stadium with the canopy, so there's gonna be no 447 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,440 internal strong winds like there were last night coming off 448 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,960 the lake. The lower bowl will have access to snow. 449 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:49,079 So when the snow was coming down and you saw 450 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,279 how I was coming down, you know, like a snow 451 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:54,759 globe softly on. The whole reason why the Pokoulas didn't 452 00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:57,559 do the didn't do the dome was so that game 453 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,839 will allow the snow to fall onto the playing surface 454 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,319 area but not necessarily accumulate up top and effect the 455 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:08,920 full effect of the stands. We were underneath the overhang 456 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,039 of the three hundred levels, so we weren't getting snow 457 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:15,480 and you don't get rain, and we're protected from the wind. 458 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,359 It truly was like you were sitting in a snow 459 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,920 globe watching an NFL game in front of you, in 460 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:28,720 perfect conditions. It was magical, Absolutely magical. And you know, 461 00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:31,039 but then you go down to the level, the one 462 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,680 hundred level, in the three hundred level, which doesn't have 463 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,519 a can if he doesn't have anything, and build there 464 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:38,920 were people. It was it had to have been miserable 465 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,440 for them because it's ten degrees but you're standing in 466 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:46,240 snow your feet or in the snow. They're wet and 467 00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:49,039 they're cold. And if you sit down you're standing, you're 468 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:53,599 sitting on wet, cold snow. It must have been miserable. 469 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,400 The Bill's Muff has got to be the toughest fan 470 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,079 base in all of the NFL because that those conditions 471 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,480 were unbelievably miserable. 472 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:06,039 Speaker 1: And they had guys with their shirts off, and every 473 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,799 time they scored, they you know, the snowballs were going 474 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:13,759 in the air and it sounded Chris Collinsworth was saying, oh, 475 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:15,480 if they get in that end zone, look for the 476 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,079 snowballs to be and sure enough, and they weren't. Really 477 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,720 it didn't look like they were going on the field. 478 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:21,960 It just looked like people just throwing them straight up. 479 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: I can't remember which game it was, but it was 480 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,599 it was one of the playoff games. And they scored 481 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:33,119 and the fans in the end zone, took the snow 482 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,279 and threw it up in the air and they created 483 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,039 it was truly it's very theatrical, and they put it 484 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,720 in slow motion and all that, and so that was 485 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,279 That was really what a lot of it was going on. 486 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,480 You know, there's always gonna be a couple of Yahoo 487 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:47,920 nim nas who are so drunk and they're trying to 488 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,359 throw snowballs onto the field, see if their arm can 489 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,960 still make it. The next year they got torn rotator 490 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:58,240 cuffs and they got kind of light. But but it 491 00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:02,079 was a great It was a tremendous atmosphere. It was loud, 492 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,799 it was raucous, it was cold. But after that first series, 493 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:11,480 getting to the game itself, right, we get the ball first, 494 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,200 we don't score, We got a punt, and it's just like, okay, 495 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,960 the defense has got to shut him down. McCaffrey in 496 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,039 that first series was like, oh my god, he's back. Yeah, 497 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,200 the defense bends, but they don't break. They get they 498 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,559 hold them to the field goal and it's like, okay, 499 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:28,519 now we gotta score. We go down, we go seven three. 500 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:31,039 It's like, all right, game on. Now. These guys stay 501 00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:33,799 ahead of them and that's where the defense really adjusted 502 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:36,920 to the running game. The offense continued to do well, 503 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,319 and then McCaffrey went down with that season any injury 504 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,880 to his calf crazy to. 505 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Think, well, I hate you know, I hate that stuff. 506 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,559 And it was I think it was a non contact injury, 507 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,319 was it not. I think it was non contact. 508 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: He had just taken a handoff, he was running, Yeah, 509 00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:53,680 and then you could see him. He he went down. 510 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,079 He went down all on his own. Yeah. I was 511 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,720 a good buddy of mine and his wife with us. 512 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,640 He's an Alfred Grad frattorney, brother of mine, lives here 513 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,279 in town. Uh, and we were joking and he was 514 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,759 a forty nine Ers fan and it was just like 515 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:14,640 and as soon as McCaffrey went down, he's like, Okay, 516 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,039 we can leave any time you're ready. 517 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too bad because he really you see how 518 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,799 important he is to that offense. But on the other side, 519 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,440 how important Josh Allen is to our to the Bills offense. 520 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,599 I'm gonna say our offense, but the Bills offense. I mean, 521 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,240 this is the guy who I don't know where he 522 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,279 is in the MVP talk, but that yesterday, being the 523 00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:45,599 first quarterback in NFL history. To score touchdowns, running, passing, 524 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480 and receiving in a single game is just crazy. 525 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: In a single play. 526 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: Excuse me, yes, yes, play it was insane. And watching it, 527 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,240 you know, you see a Mari Cooper who buy they 528 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,680 made a great catch. I mean he had a grant that. 529 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: I still think. I still think the way that when 530 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,279 I saw the replay, Josh makes a horrible throw to him, 531 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Amari gets his hand on it, brings it into his body. 532 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:19,240 It looked like Josh ran over there thinking because the 533 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,200 ball bounced in the air if he fumbled it or 534 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,079 they caught it took it out of his hands. He 535 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,559 wanted to be there to make sure that they didn't 536 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,400 run up the field, that he would then make a tackle. 537 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,079 But when he got there, Amari has it in his possession. 538 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,759 Amari says, we made eye contacts, and he goes, I 539 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,119 just tossed to the ball. You gotta love that. 540 00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,759 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just veteran play, right, I mean, that's 541 00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:42,279 just veteran play, and it's some of the things we've 542 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:43,960 come to know about Mahomes. 543 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what it's like. It was like 544 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,920 many football games on Thursday and Friday in all the 545 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960 United States where everybody went back and did their turkey Bowl. 546 00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:56,680 How many times did that play get thrown where he 547 00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:58,680 took it and do the hooking ladder and you tossed it. 548 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,880 They were all over the play, all over the place, 549 00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:06,279 and these guys at the highest level instinctively played the game. 550 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,599 They were having fun. This team is having more fun 551 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,519 playing this game than I've seen a Bills team even 552 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,160 back to the Kelly days, because the bickering Bills were 553 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,480 paying the ass to each other. These guys are not 554 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,359 the bickering Bills. This is the family Bills. This is 555 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,160 the love Bills. 556 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:25,599 Speaker 1: And it shown on the field, and it showed even 557 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,799 after the game. I saw McDermot getting interviewed. Josh comes up, 558 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,240 they do a snow angel, each of them a right 559 00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:33,920 side by side, and then he gets up and takes 560 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480 off the Bills cap on mcdermot's head and gives him 561 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,480 an AFC East Champion at And that. 562 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: That camaraderie, that feeling, that love, that thoughtfulness doing it 563 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,160 for the person that's next to you and making sure 564 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,519 that you don't fail because you don't want to let 565 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,160 them the guy next to you, that's what raises that 566 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:57,400 level of competition. That's what raises that level preparedness, because 567 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,279 that's what it's all about. And in the end, it's 568 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,960 those little things. I made a comment earlier in the 569 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,200 game where Greg Russo I think was the first or 570 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,519 second quarter, Rousseau makes an upfield rush. He comes back 571 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,079 all the way back around up the field and then 572 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,880 hits the guy from the back, finishes the tackle with him, 573 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,599 but finishes him from behind. And I said to my buddy, 574 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,039 I was like, Rousseau's play right there, and that situation, 575 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,000 that's the difference at the end of the game, when 576 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:27,640 nobody quits and everybody gives that last ditch effort on 577 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,920 every play, that's how you win championships. And that's what 578 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,759 these guys are doing. 579 00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,839 Speaker 1: It sure seems like that's where things are headed, right. 580 00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,599 I don't know if every Bills fan feels a little 581 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,279 snake bitten by you know so that you don't want 582 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,839 to say too much. Of course, we do in any direction. 583 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,559 Speaker 2: Stars from four years years. 584 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,079 Speaker 1: Ago, I know, but the you knows you as you 585 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,599 watch this, you think this really could be the season 586 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,200 and who would have thought this was supposed to be 587 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,720 the dip. I don't want to say rebuild, but the 588 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,680 dip year and boy, if anything that they've learned or 589 00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,759 I as a fan have learned, this is a team 590 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,519 that is a team. You know, it's an absolute team 591 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,039 and you can see on both sides. I mean you 592 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:17,200 had I was saying, really, what were the names on 593 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,720 your defense? Once you got past linebacker and into the backfield? 594 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,200 You know, Damarrow Hamlin. There were people who are saying 595 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,279 DeMars shouldn't have been on the team, right, you know, 596 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,079 there was talk of that. So, boy, I got to 597 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,720 tell you that the coaching job has been unbelievable. Now 598 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,319 could there be better on every level? Yes, we've talked 599 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:39,240 about clock management, We've talked about all that stuff, but boy, 600 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,880 get past those little hiccups in the regular season. As 601 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680 you head into January. Who knows where this could end up? 602 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Bill, it's like we were talking about 603 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,839 with jameson earlier. It's about learning from it. Right, And 604 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,319 you make a mistake, you foul, you didn't you didn't 605 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:54,640 get the goal, you didn't accomplish what you want to accomplish. 606 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,559 Would you learn from it? Don't repeat the same mistake, 607 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,559 learn from it? And you know, I think what Dermott 608 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:03,160 and his staff have done this year is that they've 609 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,240 learned through the failures and they've learned through the adjustments 610 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,880 they've had to do in order to adapt to the personnel. 611 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,680 I think Bobby Babbage on all accounts as a defensive 612 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,279 coordinator for the first time in his life under McDermott, 613 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,400 has done a phenomenal job with adjustments in game adjustments, 614 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,640 halftime adjustments, putting the guys in the right positions, you know, 615 00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:26,799 understanding and anticipating how the offenses are going to run, 616 00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:29,359 what they're going to be doing. You know, it's an 617 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,079 exciting time. The one thing in the NFL, anything can 618 00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:36,279 happen in any given week, and it's all about emotion 619 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,599 and it's all about being prepared. And at this stage 620 00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:43,200 of the season, it's about who is emotionally and physically 621 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,839 prepared to go out and to compete. And the one 622 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,200 thing about McDermott that he seems to do day in 623 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,920 and day out, just like Tomlin, I mean, Mike Tomlin 624 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,359 is the same way. You can never count that guy out. 625 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,079 Oh no, you know we're traveling to LA this weekend. 626 00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: You are, are you l A yeah, Jens, all right. 627 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,559 Speaker 2: And you know it's they've lost two games we haven't 628 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,119 been there's only two games we haven't been to they've lost. 629 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,000 So I have to make the trip out to LA. 630 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:16,160 I can't let them down. 631 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: You are their good luck charm. That's it. We need 632 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,799 to You need a Connors and First West Coast office, 633 00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:26,440 right right right. 634 00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,759 Speaker 2: Magret Regret. I think Gret would agree with that. 635 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: He probably would. I think you gotta make make that, 636 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,440 make that call. As you were watching games over the 637 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,039 holiday weekend, I don't know if you were like me, 638 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,359 but really rooting for the Raiders to beat Kansas City 639 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,079 that was the Black Friday game, I was so, I mean, 640 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,400 I really thought and I don't know, because that game 641 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,640 is so hard to play, you know, it just is, 642 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:56,079 and and every team is trying to out do the 643 00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,359 other team to the point where there's probably been some cheating. 644 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,440 I don't know right now in the league. I don't 645 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,200 want to say that, but we know of trying to 646 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880 steal signals and get plays and anything that's going to 647 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,840 give you an edge, right because it's yeah, it's just. 648 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,519 Speaker 2: That you're not trying to win. 649 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: It's just you just that little edge, right, and then 650 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,840 sometimes that's all the difference but boy, Kansas City, you 651 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,760 would think would be handling these teams better. I don't 652 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,360 think the Carolina Panthers. They have a terrible record, but 653 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,880 they're not an easy out. They gave them a run. 654 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,280 They gave this past weekend. They made a run. 655 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: Look, the worst teams in the NFL have a ton 656 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,480 of potential. Yes, look at the Jets for example. The 657 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,800 Jets have got talent on that roster. But what one 658 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,840 thing they are not is a team that's true any 659 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,000 given day, that those individuals can come together and catch 660 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,599 a little energy, catch a break, catch a car, catch 661 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,840 a fumble, whatever anything can happen. And was that rooting 662 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,559 for the Raiders. 663 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: I was a die hard Raiders on so side. 664 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: We went we actually went into the we went into Fairporks. 665 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,599 We wanted to go get a little Tk's and we 666 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,639 stopped at the Village in and we went some o'conneries 667 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:13,719 to watch the Raiders Chiefs game and it was brutal. 668 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,440 I mean to see the Raiders play. And again last 669 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,039 week I was saying, anybody that would listen to me, 670 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,320 I was saying, there's one team who's playing in the 671 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,800 Super Bowl this weekend. There's one team that had a 672 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,679 super Bowl game this weekend. It was the Raiders. That 673 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,920 was their super Bowl was being playing against the Chiefs. 674 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,880 They're out of it, they're done. They wanted to win 675 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,599 one game this year. It was beating the Chiefs in 676 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Kansas City. They had an opportunity, and what blew it 677 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,320 lack of discipline. It was the discipline that that team 678 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,800 did not have from the top down that ended up 679 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440 blowing it right. And the one thing that McDermott has 680 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,760 instilled in this team is that consistency of the discipline 681 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,400 in preparation, which is why when you go into a team, 682 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,159 you know, look, if you're talking about if there is 683 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,440 a if there's one of the trap weeks for the 684 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,159 Bills at this stage of the season, it's this one. Right, 685 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,400 you're going west coast, You're going across the you're going 686 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,039 across the country, time differentials, all the different things to 687 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:14,119 travel to air floid, all that Dehay duration, all that 688 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,000 stuff that goes into it. And then the week after that, 689 00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,480 you got the best team in the NFC, arguably the 690 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,880 best team in the NFL right now, the Detroit Lions. 691 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920 You look past this team going the West coast. ALSOFF 692 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,920 because you're looking to play the Lions. Oh and by 693 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,599 the way, the Rams are the ramsstinctive since the think, well, 694 00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:34,719 they're one game behind in the NFC West, but you 695 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,320 like barely five hundred. So that's a team you can 696 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,760 you can look through or look past. I have the 697 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,360 confidence and the trust the way that McDermott is about 698 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,199 that discipline, about that preparation, and about making sure these 699 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,159 guys are emotionally and mentally prepared to play the game 700 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,599 at a high level. It's him and that's the thing 701 00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:58,320 over the years that he has done in going into 702 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,639 LA I think they can. They've played there before, they've won, 703 00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,159 They've got the routine down. But you get a team 704 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:08,159 like the Raiders, they didn't do it. They lose a snap, 705 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,920 a bobble snap. Are you kidding me? Driving me crazy, 706 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,199 that's a mistake. I would have lost my mind. If 707 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,119 that were the Bills, I'd be yelling McDermott to get fired. 708 00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:22,519 I'd be firing the center. I'd be throwing the quarterback out. 709 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, talk real quick about the Lions, because much 710 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:29,039 like the Bills, they've come together as a team. They too, 711 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,519 have lost key components on defense, and yet haven't really 712 00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,039 lost a beat, and there is this whole thing of 713 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,000 a buy in. And I think, you know, in the beginning, 714 00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:42,880 their coach was taking a little bit, uh, this is 715 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,719 a joke, I think, a little you know, talking about 716 00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:47,920 we're gonna break their knees and we're going to do this. 717 00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:50,840 And then he was crying at one point, and I think, 718 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,239 but you look at him now, and you go, he 719 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,000 did it. He got the guy, He got that team 720 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:59,119 to be a team. You know he took I mean, 721 00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:01,960 I don't think Jerry Goff wanted to go to Detroit. 722 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:05,280 I say that, so you took that guy, and who 723 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,840 was a number one overall pick. Right, they just swapped 724 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,960 number one overall picks in a way and sure paid 725 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,880 off for the Rams for what they wanted at that time. 726 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,000 But here you're starting to see, wait a second, Jared 727 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,239 wasn't done and the whole thing, and I I boy, 728 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,679 that's just an amazing, amazing turnaround. 729 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: You know, when you talk about the importance of coaching, right, 730 00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:32,480 you can't underscore the significance of what a leader does 731 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:36,559 to an organization. Dan Campbell Sean McDermott are probably the 732 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:41,760 two pre eminent examples of how leadership and how leaders 733 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,840 changed organizations. Right, The Bills hadn't been in the playoffs 734 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,119 in seventeen years, right, seventeen years, seven out of the 735 00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:56,119 last eight. Dan Campbell the Lions. The Lions had been horrible. 736 00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,840 They've been a laughing sock of the NFL for how long? 737 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,239 Thirty forty years? 738 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: He always knew they were going to lose on Thanksgiving always. 739 00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,519 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell came in and gave them a toughness, gave 740 00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,079 him something to believe in, gave them, gave him everything 741 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,159 what it took a path of accountability and leadership to 742 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,039 be successful. And they had bought in and look where 743 00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:19,119 they are. I mean, I mean, Candilly, I don't know 744 00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:21,519 if I've told the story on the podcast. I think 745 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,559 I've shared with you is that I'm like a closet 746 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,280 Lions fan because when I met mister and Missus Wilson, 747 00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,840 and I learned that he was a part owner of 748 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,119 the Detroit Lions before he became owner of the Buffalo Bills, 749 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,280 and his passion just for football was from him growing 750 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,679 up in Detroit. Uh. And with the Lions team, it 751 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,039 was just like oh yeah, and then they then they 752 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,079 you know, then they had Barry Sanders, a Nuggage run. Yes, 753 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,880 they had all these great players, but they just couldn't 754 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,599 win the games. It was a town of losers, right, 755 00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:56,400 it was rust Belt city. He there was once great 756 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,599 city and now now the city's run down. And they 757 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:01,400 had this once great football tea. Even another team is horrible, 758 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,679 and it was like, this team is destined to lose. 759 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,559 And then you bring in this strong leader like Dan 760 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,000 Campbell and the whole things have changed. And you know, 761 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,639 I would love it would be a great It would 762 00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,880 be a great Disney movie to have the lines and 763 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,719 the bills in New New Orleans. 764 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, in February, yep, And that is a possibility at 765 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,480 this point. I think a lot of people are putting 766 00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,000 some money on that in vecers as we speak. I 767 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:33,480 really do. Oh yeah, yeah, Well, Greg, I really appreciate 768 00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:37,719 you taking some time tonight, and thank you for all 769 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,440 the advice, all the support through the years. We're coming 770 00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:42,719 up on our second anniversary, so we're excited about that 771 00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:46,960 and things are are good, and I greatly appreciate it 772 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:47,440 all from you. 773 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: That it's my pleasure. I always love to talking with you. 774 00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,639 Sorry I couldn't get there tonight. Out coming in from 775 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:56,559 Buffalo and the dogs and dinner, and I got you 776 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,880 trying to make sure that I take care of everything else. 777 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,079 So yeah, but it's always great to talk to you. 778 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:04,880 I hope Jamison does well. I just remember to keep 779 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,360 just and and you know, one thing for me is 780 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,559 when you're trying something new and you're going through those 781 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,039 different challenges, is it's all about attitude, right, It's all 782 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,320 about attitude and effort. There's only you know. You can 783 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,079 control your attitude, You control your effort. You can't control 784 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,480 what other people are doing. You can't control the other 785 00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,000 things that are that are around you. All your control 786 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:26,400 is how do you respond to it? What is your 787 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,760 attitude about it? And then what is the effort you 788 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,960 put into it? And one thing that my parents instilled 789 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,119 in me is always do it with a smile, Always 790 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,679 stay positive, and then always make sure that you leave 791 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,159 everything wherever you're at. Leave it on the court, leave 792 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:43,159 it in the courtroom. Don't don't walk away thinking had 793 00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,199 I just done this or just on that? Just do 794 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,760 it and if you fail, you fail, learn from it, 795 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,119 move on. If you don't put everything out there and 796 00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:53,639 you fail, you always wonder have I done that? You 797 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,159 got it. 798 00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:58,599 Speaker 1: Oh God, so yep, So good luck to Jameson. 799 00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:01,159 Speaker 2: Tell me to keep my don't keep working hard and 800 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,360 keep putting that effort in, and no doubt he'll be 801 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,920 an ultimate, he'll be a hoopster. 802 00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it, and thank you, and say hi 803 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,719 to the dogs in the background and all Jen and 804 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,440 all the people at the Connors. I'm gonna say mansion, 805 00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:24,880 but yeah, the Connors, the Connors Resort. How's the kitchen 806 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,519 by the way. 807 00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 2: Oh, it's finally done. 808 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: Look at that. 809 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: We'll have you over. You can have a little part 810 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,400 of your deathite. 811 00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: Well that would be great, Greg, thank you very much. 812 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,639 Speaker 2: Thanks, Bills, great seeing you go, Bills. 813 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: Go, Bills. There he goes Greg Connors for Greg Connors. 814 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:50,960 I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow, California, baby. 815 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: Things of god Worth. He's a land up opportunity for me. 816 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:54,800 Is just a curt 817 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,119 Speaker 1: Eight