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here we speak with Andrew Dunn. He is the publisher,

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purveyor and writer, owner, founder, et cetera of long Leaf

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Politics longleafpol dot com. He's also a contributing columnist at

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The Charlotte Observer. Andrew, hope you had a great Christmas, sir.

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Speaker 2: I did. I hope you did as well.

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Speaker 3: I was sick, I actually know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got whatever that crud flu that's going around that

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they had to close down some hospitals over I got

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that over the break.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, I'm fine. I'm fine. So you

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got any plans for New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bed early. I can't stay up that

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late anymore.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say you got kids now, so that

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a whole different holiday celebration I think goes on when

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you get kids for New Year's But all right, well,

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I don't have anything on your your longlea politics website

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to talk about or a column at the Observer, but

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I did see yesterday afternoon the anticipated audit of the

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North Carolina Education Lottery came out from the North Carolina

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Office of the State Auditor. It released a financial statement

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audit of the lottery and revealed a significant decrease in

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net revenue designated for public education, which, like, okay, I

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might understand you saw a decline in revenue because of

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all of the online you know, gaming and gambling.

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Speaker 3: Apps and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I could see where that might have eaten into the

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lottery revenue.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 1: The overall increase in lottery revenue would seem to undermine that.

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So there's a net revenue decline, but an overall revenue increase.

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And as I understand it, the amount of money that's

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been going to education has decreased in the same time period.

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So I'm a bit confused. Have you read through this

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audit yet? It's pretty lengthy? Actually, have you have you

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had a chance to Oh my gosh, you are a want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. And I just had a column on

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the subject published this morning over at the News and

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Observer and the Charlotte Observer, so god, I'll have to

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go and check it out. But basically, what's going on

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here is North Carolina's lottery had a record year six

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point six billion dollars in sales. That's out one billion

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dollars more than last year. But the actual the percentage

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of that going to education hit a record low, and

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actually the raw dollar figures going to education actually decreased

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even though it brought in a billion more dollars. And

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you know, the first thing that I thought was, oh, well,

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somebody's on the take here, you know, somebody is getting rich,

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you know, at the lottery commission. But that's actually doesn't

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seem to be the case. The overhead has more or

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less stayed the same. But what's happening here is the

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lottery introduced something called digital instance. It's kind of like

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a digital scratch off ticket, you know, so there's there's

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no scratching, you just press the button and see if

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you won. And that has become almost half of the

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lottery's revenue now is these these digital instants and they

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pay out a higher percentage of prizes, and so that

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means there's just less money that goes to education when

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when everybody is playing the digital instance.

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Speaker 1: Hmm okay, So as a business model, not sure that

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was the best move to go with. I mean, I

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understand if you're trying to move people from the printed

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cards over to a digital product, because you know, theoretically

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you'd be lower cost. I would assume, right, because you're

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not printing as many of the scratch offs, or maybe

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you still are, I don't know, but if you're paying

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out a higher percentage and that's leading to a decline

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in the revenue, Like, was that unintended? Did they not

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understand that that would happen? Is there any indication that

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there was any thought paid to that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny that you say you talk about the

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business model there, because I mean, this really illustrates what

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the lottery's business model really is. I mean, they're just

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trying to drive sales and get as many people gambling

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as much as possible. I don't think the Lottery Commission

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really cares at all how much money is actually going

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to education. You know, the lottery Commission is thrilled with this.

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I mean they're touting their record sales and kind of

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trying to sweep the you know, the less money to

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education under the rug. And that's why I'm particularly glad

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that State Auditor Dave Bollock was very upfront and pointing

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that out. I mean, it's a great business model if

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your goal is to just maximize sales and maximize gambling.

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You know, there is no commission to the gas stations,

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there's no printing cost of the tickets. It's all going

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to and it drives a lot more revenue and a

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lot more sales. But it's really clear that the lottery

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has completely lost its way. If it ever, if you

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ever bought the argument that it was about education, this

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these numbers really make it clear that that's not what

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the lottery is about.

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Speaker 1: Now, Andrew, it says it right there in their name,

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the North Carolina Education Lottery.

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Speaker 3: It says it right there. Education. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think that's ever been the case. But you know, at

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the beginning in two thousand and five when it was passed,

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the law said that thirty five percent of revenue had

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to go to education. But even before the first lottery

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tickets were even sold. They changed that. They came back

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in two thousand and seven and changed it from a

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requirement to a guideline.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a.

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Speaker 2: Hard floor, and then they said, to the extent practicable,

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make it thirty five percent. And I think it's pretty

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clear that that is not even not even a guideline anymore.

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That's just completely out the window. I mean, sixteen percent

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is just ridiculous. I spent a little time going through

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other states and collecting data on what percentage of other

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state lottery revenue is going to education or whatever that

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they're designating it for, and North Carolina is way at

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the bottom of the list. I mean, twenty five percent

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seems to be a fairly standard percentage these days. I

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mean it's a far cry from thirty five percent, but

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I mean, at sixteen percent, it's just an embarrassing. It's

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an embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: Were you because you used to be a reporter, right, yeah? Yeah,

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So were you in North Carolina doing reporter work when

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the lottery got passed?

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Speaker 2: Well, I was still in high school. I was around,

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but didn't have my professional hat on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm showing my age then, So I remember

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when this thing was passed literally in the dead of night,

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by a single vote, and it was passed because there

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were a couple of Republicans I think one was out

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for surgery, one was out of the country. They called

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in a special session in order to ram this thing

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through under the leadership of the federally indicted Speaker of

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the House, Jim Black, And that's how we ended up

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getting this lottery passed because the Republicans were against it. Now,

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they were not in the majority at the time. The

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Democrats control the House, and Mike Easley, the governor at

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the time, very much wanted this and it was sold

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to everybody as a way to supplement not supplant, not supplant.

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They're not going to replace the education funding in the

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General Assembly budget. This is just in addition too. That's

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the way this whole thing got sold. And now fast

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forward what twenty five years or so, and it is, yeah,

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like you said, sixteen percent of the revenue going to

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public school going to public schools sixteen percent in twenty

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twenty five, and that's just been continuously dropping. According to

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the story WSOCTV based on this audit twenty twenty four,

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it was at twenty percent. The year before that, in

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twenty twenty three, it was at twenty three percent.

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Speaker 3: So it just keeps.

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Speaker 1: Going down, and it is exactly as the critics predicted

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that it would play out. This is what we said

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was going to happen. But they said they had to

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do it, not just for the children, but also because

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all of the other states around us we we're doing lotteries,

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and so we had to do it in order to

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keep those dollars in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: So does that argument still hold up?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, But to me, it's really a

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matter of you know, what are we trying to do here?

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You know, if we go to the original premise that

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we wanted to supplement education funding, then we should be

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optimizing the lottery to maximize education funding, and that's clearly

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not where we're at today. You know, for the first

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time in about ten years, the amount of money going

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to education decreased. We haven't seen a decrease in raw

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dollars going to education since twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, So clearly,

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you know, the people in charge of the lottery business

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are not optimizing for money going to education. And you

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know that you mentioned the vote in the Senate. I mean,

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that's one of my favorite stories in North Carolina political history.

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It was it didn't have the votes to pass. You know,

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one Republican was in the hospital, one Republican was on

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his honeymoon, and so they ended up getting it to

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a deadlock in then Lieutenant Governor Bev Purdue cast a

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tie breaking vote to get this into law, and then

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Mike easily swiftly signed it. So, I mean, this is

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the lottery itself is a democratic problem. But I don't

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want to let Republicans off the hook completely here, because

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you know, North Carolina has been leaning a lot further

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into gambling in the last few years under Republican legislative leadership.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: Also, I was astounded to learn in this story that

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this is the first comprehensive performance audit of the lottery

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since two thousand and eight, which seems, I don't know,

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not optimal.

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Speaker 3: It seems like, no, it's not optimal.

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Speaker 2: And the Lottery they do have external audits that do

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the financial statements and you can read them online, but

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this is the first time that somebody outside of the

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Lottery Commission has really been taking a look at the

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numbers and I think it's clear. You know, I was

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going back to see, you know last time that money

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to education actually dropped with twenty sixteen twenty seventeen. I mean,

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there was no news coverage of that whatsoever. It just

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was completely swept under the rug. And so I think

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that's one of the benefits of having Dave Bollock take

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a look at this and put out a press release

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and make sure people see what's going on, because if

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you leave the Lottery Commission to their own devices, they're

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going to just brush all that aside.

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Speaker 1: And try to get as you said, try to get

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more people gambling, because that's their mission is to get.

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Speaker 3: People in back gaping. Yeah, Andrew, thank you, sir. I

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appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: As always, Folks can look them up at long leafpol

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dot com. Subscribe to the substack newsletter there, and you

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can read his work in the Charlotte Observer in the

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Raleigh News and Observer as well.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, thanks so much. Be new year to you, Thank you,

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the text line bill says, the North Carolina education lotteries,

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digital instant games equal poker machines. That's a pretty good analogy.

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I'm old enough to remember when video poker was a

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massive problem in York County, because I believe North Carolina

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had them banned, and then they opened up a whole

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bunch of these video poker parlors all along the border

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in South Carolina. And at the time I was, I

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guess at that point, I had just graduated out of

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Winthrop University and was, you know, working various jobs and

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then and so, like I worked at a bar.

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Speaker 3: It is no longer open.

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Speaker 1: I believe it used to be called the Silver Dollar Saloon.

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I mean we booked bands, we had uh, you know,

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pool tables, and we had a couple of video poker machines,

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and I watched a lot of people throw a lot

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of money into the video poker and then you know,

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they were at all of the gas stations, and then

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you would have these little shops that opened up and

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they just would be packed with video poker machines, and

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then they started getting robbed at, like people storming the

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doors with long guns and such, and you know, holding

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people hostage, emptying out the safes and stuff, taking all

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the money. It became a real problem, and South Carolina

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eventually banned the video poker. Except if you are like

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the Catawba Indian nation, they had their bingo hall and

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they were trying to get video poker and stuff. There

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is like down on the PD River they put a

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bunch of poker machines on like a on a riverboat

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that never moved off the dock, you know, stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But this was a this was a really big.

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Speaker 1: Problem for many years, and they finally got video poker

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outlawed in uh, in South Carolina. So that's what this does.

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It does kind of sound like that this digital instant

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poker machine or a digital instant.

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Speaker 3: Game, I should say. And then uh.

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Speaker 1: D Stewart says, uh, don't forget that the winnings are

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then taxed again by the state.

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Speaker 3: What that amount is?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, that's a that's a good point too, right.

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Speaker 3: So the money that.

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Speaker 1: You win off of the lottery supposed to go for

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you know, the the proceeds supposed to go to education,

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but that number has declined even though they pulled in

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record revenue.

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Speaker 3: The number the the the money that they.

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Speaker 1: Transfer over for education dropped, and as Andrew dungeas said,

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the last time that happened was almost ten years ago.

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state takes a cut of those winnings as well.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a that's a problem, I think now.

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Speaker 1: According to the WSOC report, North Carolina Education Lottery officials

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said that it and others in the US experienced a

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decrease in revenue in fiscal year twenty five from the

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Powerball and Mega Millions multi.

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Speaker 3: State draw games.

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Speaker 1: And when I was reading through some of the audit report,

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it chrucked that up to the fact that they're weren't

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as many you know, billion dollar jackpots in twenty twenty

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five for these two games, these you know, interstate national games.

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Speaker 3: And so when you.

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Speaker 1: Don't have the massive, uh you know, potential to win

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a billion dollars or whatever it is, uh, then you

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get fewer players Like I myself, I don't ever buy

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a lottery ticket, you know, unless it's worthwhile with you know,

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a billion dollars, I mean, because who would want to

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win half a billion? Like, what's the point, you know,

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why would I even bother? And well, here's the other

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thing too, Like I don't even go into the because

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you like, you have to pay for the lottery tickets.

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I think you have to pay with cash or with

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a debit card. Right, you can't use a credit card

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because you could see how that would be problematic for

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people who have a gambling addiction, right they would they

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would get credit cards and just max out the credit

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cards on all of the gambling. Right, So you got

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to use cash, and I don't ever carry cash. Just

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a heads up to all of you would be muggers

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out there. Okay, I don't carry cash, and I don't

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ever really go into the convenience stores, the gas stations,

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you know.

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Speaker 3: I pay at the pump and all of that.

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Speaker 1: After I you know, grab the the scanner, you know,

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and I shake the thing around to make sure that

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no one's scamming me. So be aware of that scammers.

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Like I checked to make sure that no one's stealing

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my card at.

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Speaker 3: The at the pump.

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Speaker 1: So I don't ever really go in. So I did

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years ago. I went over and I set up online

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on their website, and so you can go in there

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and like buy these these tickets for you know, the

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billion dollar jackpots, I never hear anybody winning off of

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the online buys. You know, you always hear like somebody

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pulled over at a gas station and they won this

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big lottery, you know, winning whatever. You never hear, Oh yeah,

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somebody bought their ticket online. Does anybody win online? I'm

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not saying they don't. Maybe maybe we get an audit

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heard of the the Seinfeld holiday Festivus, right and the

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airing of grievances and right, well for the kids, you

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probably haven't seen the episode, but that's where it comes from.

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Speaker 3: This idea of Festivus, this made up holiday that was.

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Speaker 1: It George's dad, one of the characters, George Costanza.

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Speaker 3: Or Art Van Delay, depending on the need.

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Speaker 1: But George Costanza's dad created this Christmas holiday called Festivus

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and created all these different you know things around it,

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and one of them was the traditional airing of grievances.

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And Senator Ran Paul has been using this Festivus airing

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of grievances for years and every year he puts out

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a report his annual Festivus tradition of wasteful federal spending.

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Every year he puts out this report and he highlights

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some of the most egregious you know grants and funding

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programs and services and such that are in the federal budget.

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So this year his report totals one point six trillion dollars.

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One point six trillion. Now one point two trillion of

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that is interest payments on the national debt. That's what

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we're paying for, just the interest on the debt that

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we have accumulated, he said. Last Festivus, we clamored over

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the national debt, reaching over an astronomical thirty six trillion dollars,

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which I'm kind of surprised the debt is thirty six trillion,

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or was thirty six trillion, and one point two trillion

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is the interest I thought it be more. We're getting

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a good rate. But in one short year, the career

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politicians and bureaucrats in Washington have managed to reach nearly

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forty trillion dollars in debt without so much as a

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second thought. When asked who's to blame for our crushing

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level of debt, the answer is everyone. And by the way,

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I will add to this, it's not just the politicians.

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It's not just the Democrats and Republicans in Congress. Okay,

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it's not just the elected officials. It's not even just

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the bureaucrats, the Federal Reserve people like, yes, they are

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all part of it, but it's not just them.

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Speaker 3: It's everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's all of us, everybody that keeps voting these people

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into office, and everybody that keeps demanding that something has

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to be done, that government needs to do something, that

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we need another program, more money needs to go there, whatever,

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and nobody ever wants to talk about the cuts. It's

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usually one of the uh, the questions that I get

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crickets in response to whenever I ask people running for office,

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particularly Republicans, and I asked them, you say, you want

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to you know, cut spending. Where do you want to cut?

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What do you want to cut? And usually it's something like, well,

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we're going to take a look at some things and

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there's waste, fraud and abuse or whatever whatever. But there's

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never specifics because as soon as you start listing to

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specific cuts, now you have constituencies that are attached to

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those programs and services, like the Somalians, and they won't

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vote for you, and they're not going to want their

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ox to get gourd. This year, he says, Congress voted

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to raise the debt ceiling by five trillion dollars, the

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most we have ever had now. His report also cites

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numerous examples of bizarre experiments and training programs that we're funding.

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For example, the National Institutes of Health spent five million

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dollars to give dogs cocaine, which seems like a waste.

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I think they get the zoomies already. I don't know

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why you need to give them cocaine. I don't know

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why that's Like, how is that legal? Like on two fronts?

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Number one? How did you procure the coke?

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Speaker 3: Right? Like?

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Speaker 1: That seems to me to be a bit of a problem,

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Like how are you getting the cocaine into this government facility?

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Speaker 3: How is that?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, okay, guys, I think I figured out what

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Hunter Biden's been up too recently. Efforts too soon, too soon,

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So we're feeding dogs coke.

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Speaker 3: Also thirteen, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Think about five million dollars, five million dollars to give

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dogs cocaine. I feel like we can do that a

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lot cheaper, you know, although I guess you want to

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make sure that it's it's cut pure, because nowadays, you know,

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I wouldn't trust anything out there on the streets because

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of the pentomylonoll So maybe that's.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's why.

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Speaker 1: Also, the nih spent almost fourteen million dollars on those

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beagle experiments. Remember those people who may not be aware

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of this, These were the experiments pioneered by former NIAID

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or NIAD director Anthony Saint Fauci, right where they would

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put beagles into a like a it almost looks like

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an iron lung, you know, remember those things or have

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you heard of those things where it's like the body

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is well, except it's like reverse. The head is put

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into like a container and then it's like it's sealed

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at the neck or the body is out on the

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stretcher or whatever, so that's out exposed, but the head

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is inside this containment unit and then they they they

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kill the dogs using like sand fleas or something. Yeah,

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it's barbaric, not to be confused with doctor Barrick, also

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part of the whole ni H system. But anyway, like,

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uh yeah, this was this was the pioneering work done

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by Anthony Fauci's n I H or n I A D.

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So apparently we're still funding that crap. I don't know

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if they're I don't know if they're given the beagles

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the cocaine. I don't know if it's the same dogs.

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I'm not sure. But how how have the Republicans not

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shut the valve off on that thing?

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Speaker 3: What? What?

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Speaker 1: What possible science could you be gaining from that? Like, yeah,

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we're torture, unless, of course it's some experiment on the

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humans that are conducting the experiments and they're like psychopathy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The Department of Health and Human Services has spotlighted several

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times in Ran Paul's Festivus Report. James Lynch writing about

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it at the National Review, HHS spent one and a

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half million dollars to combat drug use in Latin X

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communities through influencer marketing campaigns. So we're paying YouTubers and

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TikTokers and instagrammers to tell people drugs bad, but to

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do it in Spanish. I guess that's the idea. Also,

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one point nine million dollars on a mobile phone intervention

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meant to help reduce obesity among Latino families in the

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Los Angeles area.

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Speaker 3: So just LA.

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Speaker 1: So we have a bunch of obese Latinxers in LA,

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and so we're going to text message them at a

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cost of almost two million dollars to like, hey, stop

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eating another LA focused HHS program. And by the way,

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see this is why we saw the rise of the

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NGOs and this this system that we are now crippled

476
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under the weight of the fraud because government was doing

477
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this kind of crap so much that about fifteen twenty

478
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five years ago, Republicans made this big push to be like,

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stop spending this money on these things. Obviously they didn't

480
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do great job of it, because we're still spending this money,

481
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but they're like, we need to, you know, get the

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private sector to do this stuff because they can make

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the money go.

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Speaker 3: Further and further.

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Speaker 1: They made it go absolutely all the way to Somalia

486
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in some cases. So now we have both of these systems.

487
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We have both the government programs that are spent money

488
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like this and we have nonprofits that are just taking

489
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a bunch of money and not really doing anything with it, which, honestly,

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if I'm comparing the nonprofit model of doing nothing with

491
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it versus like the murdering of the beagles, I'd go

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with the nonprofit model. All right, if you're listening to

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more transparent. Message on the WBT text line from Andy

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am I to assume that Doge no longer exists. Yeah,

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you haven't heard a whole lot about Doge in a while.

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Speaker 3: Have. We's a it's a good point, Andy.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if it exists, and I follow

518
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the news pretty closely, but I don't think it exists anymore.

519
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I think, you know, Elon got into his fight with Trump,

520
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and that guy large orbs got attacked in DC, and

521
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then after that, like it just all went away. I

522
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think they did speed up the retirement process for the

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federal employees. Remember that then covered the vault of paperwork

524
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inside a mountain, and that only a certain number of

525
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federal employees could retire in any given year because they

526
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literally could not process more than a certain amount of

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files per year. And the reason why they couldn't do

528
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that was because the elevator that takes you down into

529
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the crypt of these files, it moves at a certain

530
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rate of speed, and so the elevator could only make

531
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a certain number of trips per day. So yeah, again,

532
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I will say, if we were building GOV code today,

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it would not look like what it does right now.

534
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You know, we would have built a different kind of system.

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But you know, once you build these things, everything gets

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built on top of these older systems, and then they

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eventually collapsed because the older systems can no longer support

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the you know, the innovations and the population growth and whatever.

539
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So let's see here back to h rand Paul's report

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on his list of grievances of federal waste fraud and abuse.

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The Los Angeles area focused HHS program a marketing campaign

542
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towards certain I don't know which one, certain LGBT subcultures.

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I don't know what that means, nine hundred and thirty

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six thousand dollars to inform them about STD testing and treatment.

545
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HHS had another drug oriented project in New York City,

546
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where the agency spent two million dollars to collect spit

547
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and conduct surveys at ed M clubs and festivals. Ed M,

548
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I believe is the electronic dance music or disco music.

549
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I think it's dance music, you know where it like

550
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they play that crazy music and they got the crazy

551
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lights going, and then everybody, you know, takes a bunch

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of drugs. And so apparently they went in and took

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a bunch of saliva samples from people.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: But additionally, HHS gave three point three million dollars to

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Northwestern University to create scientific neighborhoods. No idea what that

557
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is but also that would hire space ambassadors. Oh sorry,

558
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safe space ambassadors, because yeah, I would say, if it's

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a space ambassador, you would put them under space Force. No,

560
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by the way, do we have any space ambassadors in

561
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space Force? Seems like we should probably have a couple

562
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just in case, you know, just in case we're out

563
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there and we encounter somebody and they're like, take me

564
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to your leader, Like who are they saying that to?

565
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It probably would be a good idea to have an

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ambassador just kind of floating around the Earth. So if

567
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some ship arrives, then like we hello, I am the

568
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ambassador to space. It's a pretty large jurisdiction. But no,

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this is a safe space ambassador. So I guess they

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only would be an ambassador in the safe spaces in

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the scientific neighborhoods. Not sure why the whole neighborhood wouldn't

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be a safe space, but definitely worth a three million

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dollars Along with forming committees with the purpose of dismantling

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systemic racism. Is that because if you build a scientific community,

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there wouldn't be enough women in.

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Speaker 3: I kid, I kid.

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Speaker 1: Women could do science too. I'm not saying they can't,

578
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but men are overrepresented in I'm not trying to get

579
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into that whole argument. I'm just saying a major HHS

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expense that previously drew scrutiny twenty two point six billion

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spent on welfare and other expenses for illegal immigrants during

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the Biden administration.

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Speaker 3: So we've moved.

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Speaker 1: Past the the You know, there's a cycle that occurs

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here where it's you know, first you deny that the

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thing is happening, and then you admit, okay, fine, it's happening,

587
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but it's just a little it's not a lot, it

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doesn't influence elections or anything. It's it's just a little bit.

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And then it moves on to okay, it's happening, and

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here's why that's a good thing. That's usually the cycle. Now,

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there are some there are like a little stops along

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the way. There could be like, Okay, yes it's happening,

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but you know, a pox upon you for noticing that

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it's happening, right, or before you get to the point

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where you say, okay, it's happening, but only a little bit,

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you may say something like you're racist if you are

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accusing these people of doing this thing, or you're racist

598
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for thinking that this thing is happening, right, So you

599
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get those types of arguments between the first and second phase.

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So there is a new phase. By the way, let's

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see here this is from uh I believe his name

602
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is Josh Geron Gerstein, who is a I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 3: He is a senior.

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Speaker 1: Legal affairs reporter at Politico Legal Affairs. Keep that in mind,

605
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that's what this guy specializes in as a reporter legal affairs.

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And he's commenting on the Somali fraud story and he

607
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says at some point the amateur effort to knock on

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doors of home daycares intersects with robust stand your ground laws,

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So like that would be another stop in that in

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that cycle of like you know, after okay, fine, it's happening,

611
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but it's only a little bit, then it would be like, okay,

612
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it's happening and it's a good thing, and then you

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could maybe throw in there and if you if you

614
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ask about it, then you should be you know, shot.

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So I think maybe that's another way point that we're

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adding here.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: By the way, a stand your ground law would not

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apply if you were to go up and knock on

620
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a daycare center's door. That that's not stand your ground.

621
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There's no threats being communicated or anything. You're not you're

622
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not trying to, you know, threaten people with bodily harm

623
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or anything. So there's no stand your ground law. I

624
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:42,760
feel they need to point this out to the senior

625
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,719
legal affairs reporter at Politico. He may be thinking of

626
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,840
the castle doctrine right where if somebody is in your

627
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,280
home you can use force against them, But that wouldn't

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apply either, because you are a public business, you know,

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and me knocking on the door of a public business

630
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,960
does not give business owner the right to shoot me

631
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:05,400
through the door. Okay, so that doesn't even apply either.

632
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Speaker 3: So he's just completely wrong on both of those counts.

633
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Speaker 1: Anyway, back to their report, seven and a half billion

634
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dollars of congressional funding allocated for the Biden Administration's ev

635
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:22,199
charger network the electric vehicle charger network, So seven and

636
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:28,960
a half billion dollars built sixty eight charging stations. That

637
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,480
is quite the bang for the buck, right there. Seven

638
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:37,679
point five billion for sixty eight charging stations. Over at

639
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
the National Science Foundation, fourteen million dollars went to have

640
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:44,679
monkeys play a video game inspired by the prices right

641
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,679
game show. Not sure why we need monkeys playing a

642
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,760
video game, but sounds like a decent game. I'm gonna

643
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,559
do it like the price is right. So two point

644
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,800
four million on programs that promote bugs as food for

645
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,599
human consumption. But we're not trying to make you eat bugs, everybody.

646
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,760
We're just funding a campaign to convince you to eat bugs.

647
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:10,559
The Pentagon spend seventy seven million every year actually on

648
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,320
a dolphin training program. Not sure what the training entails.

649
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,079
I wonder if they have different do they have different

650
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,039
metrics for the female dolphins and the male dolphin.

651
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:20,679
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

652
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,199
Speaker 1: The DoD is also funding two point eight million dollars

653
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of grants for implanting a borded fetal tissue into humanized

654
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:29,199
mice for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Don't know why. Don't know how to humanize a mouse.

656
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: Actually, I don't want to know how one would go

657
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,280
about humanizing a mouse.

658
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,679
Speaker 3: It sounds horrific. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

659
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Thank you so much for listening.

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