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I was able to catch with Kevin gilbrid 18 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:49,560 BYU's tight end coach and I talked some twelve personnel, 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,159 one back, two tight end approach. 20 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,759 Speaker 3: It seems like all of the double digit. 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,719 Speaker 4: Win teams and BYU football history, we've had many of 22 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:04,280 them coincided seems with like twelve personnel two really good 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,120 tight ends. Now I think Klane has been able to 24 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:09,040 kind of undermine that a little bit. You had, you 25 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:11,200 know a little bit like Neil Powell for a minute, 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,719 and he was kind of a tight end wide receiver. 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,400 He was a necessary tight end, but he wasn't necessarily 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,439 just like a pure wide receiver. You know, you can 29 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:19,799 make some arguments for it, but like traditionally in the 30 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,799 glory days, you always had two awesome tight ends, and 31 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,400 you wonder, is this the year? Is this a walker 32 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:29,359 lines Roger Saliopaga twelve personnel type of team that gets 33 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,120 the double digits again in wins. 34 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: So I chatted with him about it. Stay tuned, don't 35 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:34,920 go anywhere. 36 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: As we get to know Kevin gilbrid in his tight 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,920 end room, he also talks about depth and the young 38 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,879 bucks that are on the rise in that room. This 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,640 segment's going to be brought to you by Dental Pros 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,640 of View Todd Dental prosiviewta dot com. 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Let 52 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:16,039 them know why, Sancho for the VPY products, VFPY service 53 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,840 BFPY discounts that you always get from any one of 54 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,520 our sponsors. All right, let's catch up with Kevin Gilbride, 55 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,560 b Yu's tight end coach. All right, we got Kevin 56 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:26,719 Gilbride tight Ends coach b YU. Kevin, how would you 57 00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:30,479 describe Camp Koalani twenty twenty six springball spoonball? 58 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: A lot of learning, a lot of growing. 59 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,759 Speaker 6: We've got a couple of new faces with Roger Sali 60 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,599 of Hoanga and Walker Lyons, who are two really good 61 00:02:38,599 --> 00:02:40,639 players and they have to get caught up to speed. 62 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,520 They're doing a great job with that. But as as 63 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,120 the day's piled on and the install piles on top 64 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:50,280 on top of itself, it could get to be a lot. 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,759 Speaker 5: So it's about refining once they learn and then being 66 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,080 able to. 67 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 6: Actually truly teach them how to execute rather than just 68 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:58,879 their job. The guys that have been here in the past, 69 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,759 we have a little bit more familiar familiarity with the offense, 70 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:05,319 have taken steps in the right direction, which we need. 71 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: So how would you describe your room right now? 72 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,159 Speaker 3: What do you like about it? 73 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,439 Speaker 1: From top to bottom? 74 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 6: We have some some leadership and some veterans with you know, 75 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:16,639 with Key and Need being here last year and playing 76 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,479 a lot of plays for us, and Noah Moayaki, and 77 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:21,520 then some younger guys who have stepped up and started 78 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,520 making some plays. 79 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: On offense with Jacob Ny and Will Zundel, which has 80 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,280 been great. 81 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,159 Speaker 6: And then the new guys are they're complete players and 82 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,639 both of them as far as they're physical tools. Again, 83 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,719 we've got to keep getting them ready to you know, 84 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:34,439 play in games. 85 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 5: But they can both be very multiple. 86 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 6: They can be in line blockers, whether it's past protection 87 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:40,800 or run blocking, and then they could stretch the field, 88 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,919 whether it's from inline or flexed out. 89 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:44,599 Speaker 1: How does that lot like? 90 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, so how does that change maybe the dynamic of 91 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:50,400 play calling for a guy like Karon Roderick and I mean, 92 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:52,560 I know you're you're involved in that install and kind 93 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,719 of projecting how you're gonna utilize the talent, But how 94 00:03:54,719 --> 00:03:57,000 does that maybe change the dynamics of play calling. When 95 00:03:57,039 --> 00:04:00,840 you have twelve personnel, you know that he can conthy push. 96 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 6: Out there, it can really stress the defense, especially when 97 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,080 they're multiple, meaning they can do many things. If you 98 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:09,639 just put a guy out there who's just an inline guy, 99 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 or a guy out there's just a flex guy, that's 100 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,039 not as hard on defenses. But when they can get 101 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:15,919 into three point stance and come off the ball and 102 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,120 strike somebody and then flex out as a number one 103 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,120 receiver and go down the field or run a slant 104 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:22,160 or whatever the case may be that we ask them 105 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,879 to do and make place, you know, that really stresses 106 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,639 the defense a lot. 107 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 5: So it can when we put our pieces in place 108 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:29,800 the right way. 109 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 6: We can also manipulate what the defense does or understand 110 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,120 what they're trying to do to stop us. 111 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,759 Speaker 5: But all those things are valuable to us. 112 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 4: YU fans geek out whenever I talk about twelve personnel 113 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:40,319 on my show. 114 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: They think of you know, Chad Lewis. 115 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:43,439 Speaker 3: And he too, La Neeely. 116 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 4: They think of Johnny Harleyan and Dan Coates, Dennis Pitta 117 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:51,839 and Andrew George. Is you know, I know you want 118 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,680 as many tight ends on the field as possible, right? 119 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:58,160 Is there like a competition of personnel for the coaches 120 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:01,079 too to get their guys on the field. Obviously all 121 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,800 trying to get the best eleven on the field, But 122 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,600 is that kind of a priority for you, Hey, I 123 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:05,959 want my tight ends on the field. 124 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 6: It is a sense of not necessarily competition, like you 125 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,519 want we all want the best eleven players to be 126 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:14,240 on the field, but you want your guys to be 127 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,519 the eleven best players. 128 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 5: On the field, so at least a couple of them. 129 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 6: So I feel fortunate with the guys I'm getting to 130 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,600 coach right now. I feel like we're putting ourselves in 131 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,240 a position where we're establishing ourselves that way. 132 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:27,879 Speaker 4: How is it that Walker and Roger can step in 133 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:32,120 so seamlessly with their skill set and already turn heads 134 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:33,759 immediately in spring ball. 135 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: Because they work their butt off to know the place, 136 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:38,519 And that's really what it came down to, Like they 137 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,480 both came in very driven to want to learn the 138 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:44,560 offense and learn in and out, like not just what 139 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,720 they have, but how to get it done. So again, 140 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:49,639 as these installs keep piling up, it becomes a little 141 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:51,920 bit too much and we got to go back and 142 00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:54,920 refresh and give them the refresher courses. But overall, I mean, 143 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,360 they've really done a nice job with understanding what to 144 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,279 do and how to do it. 145 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Trevin Osler is still part of that extended tight. 146 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: End room with that right now. 147 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:05,079 Speaker 6: But that's that's something that you got to, you know, 148 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,800 have the opportunity to utilize at times, especially in the NFL, 149 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,120 and they use it all the time when they get 150 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,160 into their bigger packages. 151 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 5: So it's not off the table. 152 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:17,079 Speaker 4: Certainly as far as what you've kind of discovered about 153 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:21,040 yourself coachy here you have an illustrious resume NFL college, 154 00:06:21,399 --> 00:06:23,720 coming from great lineas with your dad one of the 155 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:26,439 kind of the legendary coaches in the NFL for a 156 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,879 long time. What have you learned kind of about yourself 157 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:31,639 here at BYU that has maybe stood out to you. 158 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: I don't know anything specific other than if you're not growing, 159 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,000 you're not you're not improving, you're. 160 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,439 Speaker 5: Not getting better. 161 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 6: And that's what I try to do, is I try 162 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,240 to get better with with my craft and how I 163 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,399 you know, whether it's perfecting how I teach or perfecting 164 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:46,920 help try to. 165 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,639 Speaker 5: Recruit a lot. 166 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of a unique thing, unique, you know 167 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,079 because like you haven't always been recruiting right either, So 168 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:55,399 speak a little bit more on that. 169 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:58,399 Speaker 6: It took not a lot, but it took a lot 170 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:01,279 of work, not a lot of time of work to 171 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:02,639 try to get caught up to speed. 172 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 5: You know how things are done these days recruiting, and you. 173 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 6: Know, compared to back when I did it, everything's different, 174 00:07:07,399 --> 00:07:09,439 you know, So so you got to grow up pretty 175 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:11,639 quick in the in the understanding, whether it be the 176 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 rules or the style of recruiting that. 177 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: We do here at b YU. 178 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:19,639 Speaker 6: But it's been great, Like I've really enjoyed it, Like 179 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,839 I understand and enjoy the challenges that come with being 180 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:24,439 here at b YU. 181 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: I love it. 182 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,879 Speaker 4: The Air last year showed an elite proficiency in his 183 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:33,040 intermediate passion game, especially when it's in play action for 184 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:35,800 tight ends. I mean like Walker and Roger and Key 185 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,839 and you mentioned and a lot of these guys that 186 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,160 have some experience in Noah, that's going to be an 187 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,279 attractive trait, you know, with auction routes and seam sale concepts, 188 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:47,439 and I mean, if you're a tight end, why wouldn't 189 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:48,920 you want an elite Why wouldn't you want to play 190 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,360 for b YU right now? 191 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 6: Well, I think that's a big part of how we 192 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,839 were able to land Walker and Roger was the success 193 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:58,720 that Carson ran had and then he laid the groundwork 194 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:01,839 as far as you know, us finding ways to get 195 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:04,079 the ball to the tight end, and then the success 196 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,439 he had, you know, will springboard us into the future. 197 00:08:06,959 --> 00:08:08,399 Speaker 1: Carson had a great pro day. 198 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,439 Speaker 4: It really stood out one of the more athletic quick efficient. 199 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:15,319 I mean he was he was fast, but very very 200 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,240 proficient in his agility drills. What's stooding as to you 201 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,120 about his performance. 202 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:21,759 Speaker 5: I didn't watch much of the agility drills themselves. 203 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,639 Speaker 6: I just saw the times and those were excellent, so 204 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,920 I know he did a great job with it. 205 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 5: I loved how he moved in his in his. 206 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,039 Speaker 6: Workout like he moved incredibly efficient, you know, and that's 207 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,679 that's something that he and I worked on. 208 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:36,279 Speaker 5: But he really worked on a ton through the course 209 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,759 of this last year. Just to see the steady improvement 210 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:41,639 in that area has really been fun to watch. 211 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 6: He was a fun guy to coach, special special young 212 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:44,919 man for sure. 213 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, very coachable, right, And I always said, like entitlement 214 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:50,360 doesn't really work at VYU, bringing in the right guys 215 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:53,519 with the right skill set, with the right mindset is 216 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,399 pretty critical I think in the Kalani culture. 217 00:08:56,519 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Would you agree? 218 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,399 Speaker 5: I agree wholeheartedly. 219 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 6: That's why it was it was special to get a 220 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,039 guy like Carson because he had that approach to Roger 221 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,039 and Walker have as far as one to hit the 222 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:09,440 ground running and really digest not just what to do 223 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,159 in the offense, but how to do it. And they're 224 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,360 almost mirror images of him in that regard. 225 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:16,799 Speaker 5: The approach that they have. So it's pretty special to 226 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,320 get Carson. 227 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 6: And now we've got two other pretty special players and 228 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,600 human beings. 229 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 5: So it's been fun. 230 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,039 Speaker 4: What are some of your mantras in your culture that 231 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,399 you liked and still in your tight end meeting rooms 232 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,799 and within your group. 233 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:31,879 Speaker 6: That it's all about the process, Like, I don't care 234 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:32,759 about the results. 235 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: I don't care if you'd. 236 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 6: Caught a huge pass, if you weren't doing things the 237 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,159 right way, I'm not gonna be happy, and I don't 238 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:42,799 think you should be either, you know. To the contrary 239 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,960 of that is, I don't care if you if you 240 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:46,960 fall down trying to block somebody. 241 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: As long as you're trying to get better. 242 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 6: And you're working the process of the technique that we're 243 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:54,080 working through, I'm okay with it because the process right 244 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,200 now in the spring. 245 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 5: Does not matter. 246 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 6: All that matters is the result on Saturday, you know, 247 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 in the fall. So that's what we're working towards right now. 248 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,840 When you have that approach, you have a growth mindset. 249 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,879 And so those those are two focused on the process 250 00:10:05,919 --> 00:10:08,399 have a growth mindset, and then we're gonna be ready 251 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,559 come fallt mab b u Yu. 252 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,519 Speaker 4: Since the hiring of you and TJ, the run game 253 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,679 has progressed, leaves and bounds right one of the best 254 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:19,559 running teams. 255 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,919 Speaker 1: In the country last year in the Big twelve. 256 00:10:21,639 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: Could you explain maybe the dynamic of a rod you 257 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,559 and TJ as as because it all kind of meshes 258 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,559 obviously Harvey as well with its running backs, how you 259 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,320 guys get on the same page in the run game, 260 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,240 and how the play action game has been able to 261 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,399 be maximized because of it. 262 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:40,519 Speaker 5: I would say that TJ does a great job with the. 263 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,399 Speaker 6: With the run game planning, which I'm not as big 264 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,200 of a of a part of as Harvey is. So 265 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,600 it's Harvey and TJ as far as the game planning itself, 266 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,000 but then it's up to us to implement it and 267 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:55,480 to get the get the guys to execute. And that's 268 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,080 kind of where I come into play in the run 269 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,240 game and then building things in the past game off 270 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,480 of it. And that's something that we've improved on and 271 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:04,440 we can continue to improve on, and I think you'll 272 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:04,840 see that. 273 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: You know, come fall, tight ends want to catch touchdowns, 274 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,679 they want to run routes, they want to get out 275 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,320 in the open, but they have to be in line sometimes. 276 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,559 You mentioned the multiplicity of your tight ends. You know, 277 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,080 it sounds like Walker and Roger and these guys they 278 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,720 can all they can all block. What stands out to 279 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,360 you about their physicality why you believe that they can 280 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,399 be in line guys as well? 281 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,919 Speaker 5: Their toughness They're great. 282 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 6: They've both shown it and it's been It's a limited 283 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,240 basis as far as the new guys that I've seen, 284 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,360 because you know it's springball. You know, we're not tackling 285 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,840 all the way to the ground, we're not going live. 286 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:42,000 But initial contact is initial contact, and that's there with 287 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:42,399 those guys. 288 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 5: They don't shy away from it at all, so you 289 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,200 know they have it. 290 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 6: We just have to protect perfect some of their techniques, 291 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,440 and they're getting there. 292 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: They work at it. 293 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 4: You mentioned a couple of young guys, Jacob n I, 294 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Will Zendell. We saw Will run down on kickoffs. He's fast, Yes, 295 00:11:55,639 --> 00:11:58,159 he's very, very linear, A good athlete out of I 296 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,039 think American four. 297 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: Jacob Nike out of Texas. You know, hasn't. 298 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if we've got anyone's really a mantable 299 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,759 to see him. Can't explain your depth if you could. 300 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 5: Will Zundel is exactly how you explained it. 301 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 6: He is a fast, fast player, and he's big and 302 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,120 strong as well. He's learning the tight end position. He 303 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,399 played more receiver than he did in high school than 304 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,440 he did than he is now. Obviously he's playing tight end, 305 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:25,039 but but. 306 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: He's learning it and learning it well. 307 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,039 Speaker 6: And a big part of that with him was understanding 308 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,600 the timing of the passing game and then understanding how 309 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:33,360 to get his job done in the run game. He's 310 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:36,240 taken He's grown leaps and bounds in the last. 311 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,919 Speaker 5: Year, which is tremendous. So he's headed in the right direction. 312 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 6: Jacob has been hurt and his knee hasn't quite been 313 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,960 right yet. We finally got him where he's being able 314 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,000 to perform and perform at a. 315 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,759 Speaker 5: Pretty high level. 316 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:49,159 Speaker 6: We just have to get him more consistent. And again 317 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,080 he was more of a receiver than he was in 318 00:12:51,159 --> 00:12:54,279 high school than he was And the tight end, what 319 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:54,600 are you. 320 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: Looking for when you're recruiting tight ends like the freshman 321 00:12:57,159 --> 00:12:59,360 Obviously that the portal tight ends may be a little 322 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:02,039 bit different. What are you looking for in that freshman 323 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,080 tight end that merits and offering of ty Getchi and 324 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,399 Brock Harris, those were a couple of big offers that 325 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,759 you had that end up signing. 326 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: What are you looking for? 327 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 6: It's really kind of hard to explain, but because I 328 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,039 don't think there's there's one making model for tight ends, 329 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,600 like and that holds truth in the NFL as well, 330 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:20,600 Like I coached a lot of different body types, a 331 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:24,720 lot of different skill sets. But how tough are they 332 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:26,320 are they willing to block? I? 333 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,279 Speaker 5: Do they have grit? 334 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 6: And then the other skill sets have to match, meaning 335 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,200 like they have to if they're a little bit a 336 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,080 little underwhelming in the run game blocking, Yep, they better 337 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,039 have some height and be able to go get the football, 338 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,080 and you know when they're catching passes, but it's a 339 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,519 sliding scale and you know in those regards, so if 340 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:47,759 they're not quite as fast or something like that, then 341 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:49,320 they better be able to block their butts off. So 342 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,360 I can't describe one particular thing, but there's as long 343 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,240 as they've got grit, as long as they've got tough 344 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,759 toughness with physical and mental, we can make it work. 345 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,879 Speaker 4: Last thing, defensively, everyone's kind of wondering what the defense 346 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,320 is looking like now that you know there's some changes 347 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,360 on the coaching staff. How would you describe the defense 348 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:09,320 being coached up by k Pop and the crew. 349 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:11,519 Speaker 5: I think it's very comparable to our defense. 350 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,159 Speaker 6: Before they're flying around their competitive athletics, they throw a 351 00:14:15,159 --> 00:14:18,519 lot at you schematically, whether it be different pressures or 352 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,879 different coverages. They're doing a good job with some of 353 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,679 their disguises, multiple in their. 354 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: Fronts, so they make it challenging. And that's how coach 355 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Hill had it as well. 356 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Kevi o'brid good, All right, there you go. 357 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,759 Speaker 4: That's Kevin gilbrid, the tight ends coach for BYU football. 358 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,720 A couple of the gems that it got from this, 359 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,120 and it was like kind of on the back end, 360 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:42,120 I want to start off with, you know what he's 361 00:14:42,159 --> 00:14:46,559 looking for in the tight ends that he is recruiting. 362 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:50,759 So you look at ty Gedgee, you look at Brock Harris, 363 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,759 you look at Walker, Lions, Roger Sally of PAGA. 364 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: They're all kind of built differently. 365 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: Brock Harrisson more like a Dennis Pitto tie big wide 366 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,240 receiver type sixty six, et cetera, and just a. 367 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:04,919 Speaker 3: Refined route run. 368 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,679 Speaker 4: A good athlete, obviously, but just a refined route run, 369 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,600 a great catching radius, super soft, supple hands, just catches 370 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,919 everything in the in that catching radio's great body control. 371 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:18,440 Tyketch you is more of like a springy athletic, just bouncy, 372 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:24,679 high pointing athlete, basketball player, really physical. He's well going 373 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:27,120 to be a good inline blocker, I think, when all 374 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:30,159 of said and done, really really a physical specimen in 375 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:34,200 that regard. Walker is an undersized tight end traditionally six 376 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,840 three six four two forty five, and by undersize I 377 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,399 mean like from a height standpoint, but really thick and dense. 378 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: And very strong. Obviously a great talent. 379 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:51,039 Speaker 4: Roger Uh, He's built once again like six three sixty four. 380 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440 He's kind of my Neil Powell comparison. He's more of 381 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,000 a big wide receiver than he is maybe a tight end, 382 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,559 but he can block too. Like, and so when he's 383 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,519 talking about things that he's looking for, like, yeah, I 384 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:06,159 want X, Y and Z, but like, it doesn't matter 385 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,440 the height, it doesn't matter the weight. It doesn't to 386 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:11,200 a degree, I guess it does. But I'm sure he's 387 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,600 got his cutoffs. I'm sure he has his curation process 388 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,960 where he's he's saying, well, you know, snow six to 389 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,000 one tight ends, right, No, sixth two and a half, 390 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,600 that's maybe his. 391 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: His his threshold. 392 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: But if he got great length from a wingspan or 393 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:26,440 on leg standpoint, that's that can make up for it. 394 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:27,919 Speaker 3: So you just got to go out there and do 395 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320 the job. You better be gritty, you better be physical. 396 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: And but he doesn't have a cookie cutter definition of 397 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:36,879 what a tight end looks like, which I think is 398 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,600 really good. I think the the NFL many times can 399 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:46,360 ruin coaches. And you can tell that he comes from 400 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:52,159 a football family. Remember Kevin's dad, Kevin gilbrid senior, he 401 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,799 coached college football, you know, starting in like the seventies 402 00:16:57,679 --> 00:17:01,159 and then made his way to the NFL. 403 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:03,559 Speaker 3: By like nineteen eighty nine, he was. 404 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,519 Speaker 4: Coaching in the NFL with the Houston Oilers, Jacksonville Jaguars, 405 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:10,960 Sango Chargers, Steelers, Bills Giants, who became the head coach 406 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:15,880 there with the or the offensive coordinator with the New 407 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,079 York Giants, and really good offensive mine, et cetera. But 408 00:17:20,279 --> 00:17:23,319 sometimes the NFL can ruin you. You look at height, weight, 409 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,200 tangibles and things that nature and athleticism and you get 410 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:28,559 you get drunken with it and you're not looking for 411 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:31,079 the best football player. You can tell that Kevin's looking 412 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,480 for the best football player. So I appreciate that. You 413 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,720 look at who we went out and got. You got 414 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:38,400 KEA Neid out of New Mexico ethan Wood, New Mexico, 415 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,480 New Mexico State and New Mexican University of New Mexico 416 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,920 both kind of a juco path with those guys, gritty 417 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,160 in line, tight ends physical. So he's looking for certain 418 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:57,359 skill sets, right, But he's not going to just say, hey, 419 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,240 this is the height and the weight. And a lot 420 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,680 of offensive coaches or defensive coaches will do that too. 421 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:06,920 They say, I'm not gonna recruit certain individuals because they're 422 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,599 not tall enough, they're not long enough, they may not 423 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,039 be fast enough, whatever it is. I know there's thresholds, 424 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:14,480 but I thought that was interesting that he doesn't cookie 425 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:20,079 cut on the tangibles, the measurables, et cetera. A couple 426 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:22,559 of other things that that I noticed about the conversation. Man, 427 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:26,200 he is upbeat, he is positive, he is One of 428 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,839 the things I was concerned about when we lost Steve 429 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,400 Clark was that, you know, it's always it's tough to 430 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:36,200 find the right fits at BYU from personality standpoints sometimes, 431 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,720 and Kevin fits the mold. 432 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: Obviously. 433 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,039 Speaker 4: He had been recruited to b A who's there at 434 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:43,119 b AU for for a year before I believe transferring 435 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,160 as a player. But I just think he's a great 436 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,119 fit personality wise. I think he gets along with the 437 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,119 kids really well. He's he seems like a player's coach 438 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,160 to me. But some great gems there. I know, Ronnie, 439 00:18:56,279 --> 00:18:58,799 were you were listening in anything stand out to you 440 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,319 from for that conversation. I know twelve personnel was the 441 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,839 topic as you were in. Roger Sally of pagin Walker lines, 442 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:07,359 they're gonna be on the field. It seems like all day, 443 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,839 every day with some intermittent I mean, he said, I 444 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,839 think he may have said, I love the thirteen personnel. 445 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,799 He probably wants to get Kia need on the on 446 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,759 the grid iron as well. 447 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: Give me some of your takeaways. 448 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest takeaway at the end is 449 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,039 a reminder about the last two tight ends. He mintioned 450 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:25,960 Will Zondale being one of them. These guys play more 451 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,960 receiver in high school and they're converting over It sounds 452 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,400 like you're tight in learning the position, Ben, so you know, 453 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,799 there needs to be some growth and some patients and 454 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,880 you know, and when you mentioned Will being fast and linear, 455 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,799 I can't remember which game was, but I was looking 456 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:41,279 at it. I was like, man, eighty three just got 457 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:43,519 down the field way you fast. I said, who is that? 458 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,799 And I was next to another reporter and we both 459 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:47,799 looked a rousss like I did not expect. 460 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:49,839 Speaker 8: I was like, wait, wasn't he a receiver? So yeah, 461 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,480 we'll we'll moved over to tight end. Big body. Look, 462 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:54,920 don't want to get matched up with that dude in 463 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,400 the red zone. 464 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 7: And I think the biggest thing is the guys that 465 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,400 he's going to get Ben out of the portal guys 466 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,000 that they're recruiting, and he said this, you know, are 467 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:05,960 you willing to block? He's not just gonna get you 468 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960 if you're flashy, like you gotta put that hand in 469 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,319 the dirt. 470 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,599 Speaker 8: You gotta be able to get physical. 471 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 7: He talked about, yeah, they're only doing thud contact, but 472 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,799 you got to embrace contact and deliver it. You have 473 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:17,160 to be physical at the point of attack. So, you know, 474 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,799 I thought that was something that was interesting to look. 475 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:20,759 All the tight ends coaches want to but you know 476 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,920 some you know, oh this guy just blocks, but this 477 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,599 guy does. 478 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 8: Like you have to be willing to be able to 479 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,640 do that. 480 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 7: You saw that with Carson Ryan, and I think the 481 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,720 reason why you got Walker, why you got Robert, was 482 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,720 you saw what Carson Ryan only did in the in 483 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:36,240 the receiving game, but in the blocking game, run game, 484 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,559 pass blocking game, and that became very attractive Ben, because 485 00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:41,799 when you get to the next level, Ben, Look, everybody 486 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:44,720 talks about rob they talk about you know Travis, you know, 487 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,720 as being the greatest tight ends. 488 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 8: They don't just catch the ball, they also have to block. 489 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,880 You have to do both. 490 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,839 Speaker 7: So I think that was really important to bring up that, 491 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,160 so we'll see what you know happens. I would love 492 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,480 to see, you know, a third guy, look, Ben, thirteen 493 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,599 fourteen personnel, keep it going with LJ ANDC on the 494 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,440 back if they're healthy, if that's your one two punch Ben, Look, 495 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,720 I would love nothing more than get you know, over 496 00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:08,319 five six hundred yards on the ground, Ben, and you know, 497 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,039 be able to come back into his last year because 498 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:11,920 you know he's been he's been dinged up, but he's 499 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,759 finally fully healthy. I think that really is what contributes 500 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,759 to Bau's success been and not only getting back to 501 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:19,200 the Big two title game, beating a team like Nordre 502 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:21,839 Dame getting to the college football playoffs. You have the 503 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:24,400 big you have one running back. Now you need the 504 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,200 second guy who's been in and out to be that 505 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:29,119 next guy behind him. With the great offensive line, he 506 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,160 got the two tight ends to do it. So let's see. 507 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,559 And to your point, he is very upbeating, very very 508 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,680 a lot of good energy, very complimentary. So I was 509 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,640 really really impressed with that. Like his whole demeanor and personality, 510 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,519 very personable person So Kevin Gilbright, I see why they 511 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,640 brought him here and has worked out well and to 512 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,839 your last point. You know, Harvey Unger in the run 513 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,279 game and t J Woods phenomenal job, the guys that 514 00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:52,599 they're recruiting, who they're talking to. 515 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 9: Ben. 516 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,279 Speaker 8: You know, I've pushed this the last two days. 517 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:57,599 Speaker 7: You know we'll get our obviously, you know more thoughts 518 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,480 you know throughout Fall camp, but offensive line and the 519 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:03,720 run blocking game seems like, you know, the toughest thing 520 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,680 that they're focused on, like who and who along with 521 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,400 the tight ends and the offensive line are gonna be 522 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,640 blocking for LG. 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But by the way, 542 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,240 we got a good tight end room right Walker, Lions, Rogers, 543 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,559 Salley Pogops, Matthew Frederick coming home from a mission. 544 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,319 Speaker 3: At a East High school. 545 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 4: Josh Davis, Ethan Wood, Jacob Nye Kean Nead, Cole Clement, 546 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,640 Noah moayaki. Those are your crew right now. It's a 547 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,839 Will Zendel as well. Sorry I forgot Will. Should not forget. 548 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,039 Speaker 3: Will. 549 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: Will's fast man six five two forty. He can gallop. 550 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,599 He's a big body. He looks like you play like 551 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:21,880 dand or linebacker two. By the way, he's got that 552 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,079 body type about him. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. 553 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,319 Just as a side commentary. But we're gonna go pray guys, 554 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,880 please don't go anywhere. Still plenty to get to on 555 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,160 a Wednesday, March twenty fifth edition of Cougar Sports. 556 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: Here on one o three nine ninety eight point three 557 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,039 ESPN The Fan. 558 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,079 Speaker 2: This he's a one oh three nine ninety eight three 559 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:41,160 ESPN Sports Center updates. 560 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:43,759 Speaker 10: It was a big day for Cougon Sports yesterday as 561 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,200 three different teams took home the victory. We start with 562 00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:49,000 men's golf, who broke multiple records yesterday's They took home 563 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:52,359 the title of the GCAA Bridgestone Collegiate Invitational. To start, 564 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,559 the YU set the record for the lowest final round 565 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,160 score on program history as they shot a combined twenty 566 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,519 six hunder par two sixty two. Their final score of 567 00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:01,839 fifty four under par was the lowest in school history, 568 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,880 and their final stroke count of eight ten was the 569 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,519 second lowest. With their fifty four under par performance, they 570 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:09,039 completely dominated the competition as they went on to beat 571 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:12,160 second place Santa Clara by twenty five strokes. On the 572 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,359 individual side of things, Ya Kene took home the individual crown, 573 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,480 shooting twenty one under par, which was the lowest individual 574 00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:21,160 score since the nineteen ninety nine two thousand season. Thanks 575 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,160 to a career best nine under in his first round. 576 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,599 In second place in the event was another BYU golfer 577 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,519 Peter Kim. Kim sixteen under par was his career best 578 00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:31,000 and his eleven under final round tied the second lowest 579 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,960 individual round score in program history. Next up for the 580 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,359 golf team is a trip to Palo Alto tomorrow where 581 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,039 they will compete in the Goodwin hosted by Stanford. 582 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: UI Baseball got. 583 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:42,039 Speaker 10: Back in the win column yesterday thanks to slide and 584 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,400 cash to rob Utah of a walk off double last night. 585 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,599 Roddy Robinson was the star of the team, going four 586 00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:48,279 to four at the plate last night and the Cougar 587 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,920 six to five victory over the Utes. Their next series 588 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,279 is this weekend at home against Oklahoma State. THEA softball 589 00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:56,279 also took home the double last night in Orum against 590 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:59,519 the UVU Wolverines. Thanks to homer's from freshman Kaya Fabala 591 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,279 and Rita tis Vita, the Couters came home victorious what 592 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,000 will be their Big twelve home opener. 593 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 8: This weekend, they will host the Kansas Day Homes. 594 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 10: The only event today in in the pool is by 595 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,039 swimmer Tann and Nelson will compete in the first of 596 00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,680 three events this weekend at National's Good luck to Tanner 597 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880 in the sixteen fifty Free Today. 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There's been a. 621 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: Number of different kind of these Cinderella stories and we 622 00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:20,319 haven't We even have an eleven. 623 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: Seed getting into the Sweet sixteenth. 624 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 4: So I always think it's a good thing, even if 625 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,440 it's a Power Conference blue blood type of team. 626 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 3: As an eleven seed you get in, I think that's 627 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,079 a good storyline. 628 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: This segment, guys, are going to be brought to you 629 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,519 by rubisndrubies In dot com. 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How would 649 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,000 you describe March Madness thus far? 650 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 4: How would you describe from your pulpit, the ups and downs, 651 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,039 the undulations, the surprises, and the chalk talk as well. 652 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like if you wanted chalk in this tournament, 653 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,160 you certainly got it right with a bunch of the 654 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,920 top yet winning. But if you wanted a little upset, 655 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,440 you also got that as well, right with Iowa pulling 656 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,000 the upset over Florida. I still cannot believe that the 657 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:52,519 Hawkeys won that game. That roster had no business beating 658 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,920 the defending champs. But then McCollum is kind of a wizard, 659 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,559 kind of good at what he does. He's won eighty 660 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,079 percent of his games for a reason. And then if 661 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,200 you wanted really high quality basketball, I think this this 662 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,960 weekend also really showed that to you. I'm kind of 663 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,759 going through some of the games. Every time you kind 664 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:09,319 of flip the screen, you're like, man, that's a really 665 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,720 good game that's playing. You know, even Michigan beats slow 666 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:13,759 by you know, twenty five points. But if you watch 667 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:15,519 that game, you're like, Wow, these are really two high 668 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,720 quality teams running good offense. So I felt like, for 669 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,720 the most part, the quality of play throughout the first 670 00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:23,640 weekend was really good. Officiating was really poor. We got 671 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,359 a lot of chalk and we got one good upset 672 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,720 and a couple of really really good games. 673 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a bit of a Cinderella story 674 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,720 with high point and the three point shooting, the efficiency, 675 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:33,279 et cetera. 676 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that. 677 00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:39,119 Speaker 4: And you know, do you want do does does does 678 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,799 the college basketball fan base do they want to see 679 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,440 Cinderellas make it to the Sweet sixteen? Or do they 680 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:49,240 just like that that initial round or a playing game 681 00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:52,400 type of Cinderella story and it stops at the round 682 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:52,920 of thirty two? 683 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,359 Speaker 3: Do you think? 684 00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:55,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at too. I think 685 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,400 one or two games that you win from a Cinderella 686 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440 is great. But you know, I think a few years ago, 687 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,000 like FDU playing Carolina in a big Sweet sixteen game 688 00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,519 wasn't necessarily the most fun or something like that like that. 689 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,440 That's kind of there or now I think it was 690 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240 at Saint Peter's against Carolina where it wasn't super competitive. 691 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,559 But yeah, like that's kind of where it goes a 692 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:14,400 little bit too far for me. I think if you're 693 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,559 a basketball fame, you kind of look at this Sweet 694 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:20,039 sixteen slate, you're like, man, these are eight excellent games, 695 00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:22,519 really excellent games, and you know, I think there's gonna 696 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,559 be a lot made of like, oh no, Cinderella's in 697 00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,440 this second weekend, But I think there's real like explanations 698 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,319 for it, and it's far more than nil and you know, 699 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,359 the portal. I think it really does come down to 700 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:35,079 just roster building and more teams at the top the 701 00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,440 sport are just trying to get bigger and bigger and bigger, 702 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,599 and to kind of use the football analogy of just like, hey, 703 00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,160 big people move little people. I think that's what we're 704 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,880 kind of noticing more at the top, and it's why 705 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,160 some of the you know, the teams like that are 706 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,559 in the high major leagues have just become more successful 707 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,960 early in the tournament. I also thought this tournament was 708 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,599 seated better as well, like for the most part that 709 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,160 the top teams got decent draws, But like a Utah 710 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,119 State that's a really good team that could have easily 711 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,440 made the second weekend. They just had to play Arizona 712 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,279 slew It's a really good mid major team. They had 713 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:05,960 a great year, but they got a horrible draw. They 714 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,680 had to play Michigan. That's why they're not in the 715 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,279 second weekend. So that's just about more just like unfortunate timing, 716 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 and it kind of all muddles together. We have sixteen 717 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:15,960 kind of hot major teams playing for the title. 718 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, Calhoun was pretty ticked off when he got his 719 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160 seating right the matchup in the bracket. He's like, look 720 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,200 like we should have been a higher seed and we 721 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:26,720 kind of got screwed. That's why we're out in the 722 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,720 round to thirty two. He said it prior to to 723 00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:30,680 tip off in that first round, and he said it 724 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,680 again in the post game. And now he's he's head 725 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,640 into a power conference where he's got a more robust 726 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,519 he's got more robust resources. And fortunately Utah State has 727 00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:42,200 had like four coaches it seems in five or six years. 728 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,519 They just start stepping stone for everybody. But everybody moves there. 729 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,279 Everyone can go go there, move there and win there. 730 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 9: Right, there is no like there is no drop offs, 731 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,119 which is like you just names change, coaches, change players 732 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,759 change Utah stay keeps winning. So yeah, I'm just kind 733 00:30:57,799 --> 00:30:58,799 of curious why is that? 734 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: Do you think? How is that happening? 735 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,319 Speaker 9: Do you think it's a good question? 736 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:03,519 Speaker 5: You know. 737 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 9: I think part of it is just like institutional there, 738 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,960 Like they do a really good job of like keeping 739 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,920 guys like Mason Falselv has stayed for three coaches now 740 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:15,559 throughout his career and he's like one of the best 741 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,319 players in the Mountain West. But it's definitely more than 742 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,079 just that, Like I think it's a it's a place 743 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,079 that really loves basketball. I think it's a place that 744 00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:26,480 gives good resources to its coaches for its league. Right 745 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:28,359 compared to some of the other teams that are in there, 746 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,480 they have a great home court advantage, so I think 747 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,799 that certainly helps. Well, it's an attractive place to play 748 00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:35,640 basketball when you factor in just everything that they have 749 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:37,359 going there. So I think that's kind of all of 750 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,519 the different things there. But also part of me just 751 00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:41,599 kind of feels like it's a little bit of good 752 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,279 fortune too, right, Like there's a they've done a good 753 00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,680 job of like executing and finding good coaches, and like, 754 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,000 I mean even Calhoun to a certain extent, like if 755 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,160 you look at his resume at Youngstound State, like I 756 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,680 think a lot of people like view him as like, oh, 757 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:57,680 you have to like win in March in order to 758 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,440 like be a good basketball coach like Calhoun to do that. 759 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:02,759 But Utah States brass still did a good job of 760 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:05,720 being like, no, look, he's exceeded expectations every single year 761 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,359 at Youngstown State. If we give him these type of resources, 762 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000 he's gonna win. And sure enough they did just that. 763 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,799 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. 764 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,319 Speaker 4: We were discussing, you know, the disappointments as well in 765 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,839 the NCAA Tournament. I think the BWAYU Cougar's losing to 766 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Texas that was a disappointed for kugarnation we've had. You know, 767 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,079 there are some people that felt like, hey, this is 768 00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:28,240 one of the more disappointing, if not the most disappointing 769 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,480 season in b WEA basketball history, because of all the 770 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,920 talent that they had to start off the season, the 771 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,759 five season ending injuries. Three of those guys are starters 772 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,680 or rotation players. Give me your synopsis of BYU this year. 773 00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:43,759 What did you see and how do you feel it 774 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,680 ended up for them? 775 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, a little bit of a cursed year, right, Like 776 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,640 you feel like you're blessed with the type of talent 777 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,519 that you're able to accrue and just never really got 778 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,799 to see it on the full center stage, right, Like 779 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960 how many games does this team fully healthy? Like not 780 00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:00,559 any of their biggest ones. Right, It's just a fair 781 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,200 just a fair estimate of where this season was. But 782 00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,480 I also do think there were some miscalculations with this 783 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,920 roster being filled, you know, I think there if you 784 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,640 ask Kevin Young, like they probably wish that they had 785 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,359 a little bit more depth in the front line. And 786 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,480 you see the teams at the top of the sport, 787 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:16,920 right like what Arizona has done at the top of 788 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,640 the Big twelve, Like they have four massive dudes that 789 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,640 they can trot out and are major, major difference makers, 790 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,079 And it felt like Uyu's frontline, like Kbakeda outside of that, 791 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,599 it was a little limited, Right, That's just a fair 792 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,680 part of what their roster was, So I think their 793 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,079 margin for error was a little bit slimmer than some 794 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,279 of the teams at the top. But there's no question 795 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,960 if Ritchie Saunders was healthy I would have been stunned 796 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,799 if Yu was not in the second weekend. The guy 797 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,039 like that can kind of almost single handedly drag you 798 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960 into the n into the second weekend when you're paired 799 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920 with Ajda Bones and you're paired with Rob Wright, and 800 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,200 just without him, it felt like this team kind of 801 00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:54,519 got wobbily, and you understand it for everything he did 802 00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:56,720 on the court off the court as a leader, as 803 00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,200 their offensive rebounding machine. The hustle of a hustle guy 804 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,079 basically kept the be live. Just a shame that a 805 00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:04,480 guy like that didn't get to didn't get to play 806 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,279 in March Madness one more time. 807 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 4: Who are your favorite teams right now to survive in 808 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,719 advance to get to that elite aid? Where are you 809 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,519 leaning right now? 810 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 9: Yeah? So for me, like, I think Arizona matches up 811 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,920 great with Arkansas. You know, I think Arkansas's interior defense 812 00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,079 is an issue, transition defense is an issue, pick and 813 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,559 roll defense is an issue. Arizona is like elite at 814 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,840 all three of those categories. So unless Darius Akuff like 815 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,480 touches the heavens and goes for you know, forty five, 816 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,559 forty six points, Like I think Arizona's good advance and 817 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,800 to me, like, I just feel like Arizona and Michigan 818 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,519 have been the best two teams that I've seen this 819 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:41,320 year in person, and I just think they're on a 820 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,800 collision course in the final four. I think Michigan is 821 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,360 going to be able to get through an Alabama team 822 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,000 that doesn't have Aiden Holloway. I think they could get 823 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 through a Tennessee team that has a beat up Nate Amen. 824 00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,000 I think they could get through a team like I 825 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,159 always say too as a beat up Josh Jefferson. Like, 826 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,440 so Michigan and Arizona feels like the national Championship game 827 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,480 that we're going to have just forty eight hours early, 828 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,599 right on that Saturday in April. So those two teams 829 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,119 feel inevitable. There's other good matchups though, right Like I 830 00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,159 think Illinois Houston is super fascinating. Both those teams are 831 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,119 top six on Tenpom, just elite teams. Like if you 832 00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:12,840 told me in the beginning of the season Illinois and 833 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,679 hous started playing in the final four. Ho to believe you, 834 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,920 But we're getting it in the sweet sixteen, and those 835 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,199 two rosters can certainly go toe to toe and I'm 836 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,039 obviously super fascinated by the East Region, right like Duke 837 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,519 and Saint John's Michigan State Yukon. Pray for the refs 838 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,239 because the refs that have to officiate both of those 839 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,559 games are gonna get earful super Rick Mesino, Domnzo and 840 00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:32,079 Dan Early. 841 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 4: You know, going back to the Texas Purdue matchup and 842 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,840 reflecting on BYU season, it reminds me of the sixth 843 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,440 seed that be what you pulled in twenty twenty one 844 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,840 where they had to face either Michigan State or Ula. 845 00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,519 Ucla got to win over Michigan State. Both those teams 846 00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,119 are really good teams. Ucla just and then went on 847 00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:54,559 a run all the way to the Final four before losing. 848 00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,840 I wanted to I want to say to Gonzaga that year, 849 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,559 is this another eleven seed to just that all of 850 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:02,840 a sudden's gonna go on a tear and upset Purdue. 851 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,360 Is there a possibility there the way to form the 852 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,000 fashion they're playing and how Sean Miller's coaching up this crew. 853 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,519 Speaker 9: Right now it's in play. I don't think it's likely. 854 00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:16,000 I think that Texas is actually a pretty rough matchup 855 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:19,800 for Purdue. Like Purdue is so good in draft attacking 856 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,159 draft coverage, and Braden Smith and Trey Cooff and ren 857 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,599 are just like elite against that defensive coverage and that's 858 00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,119 what Texas plays. So I do think that there's avenues 859 00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:29,519 for Purdue to win that one. It's an uphill climb, 860 00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:32,920 certainly for Texas. But at the same time, like if 861 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,440 you talk to rival coaches in the SEC, like they 862 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,679 would say, like, hey, Florida is the most talented team 863 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,960 and the best team in our league, but Texas is 864 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:43,440 the scariest because like they just have like this different 865 00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:45,960 gear that they can get to. And I think lately, 866 00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,559 like Jordan Pope's been playing like a really really good player, 867 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,320 like Tremon Mark is obviously really scary. It can go 868 00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:54,880 off at any given moment. Dalen Swain can. It's like 869 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,199 one of the elite drivers of the basketball this year, 870 00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,480 Like from a points for possessions perspective, he's been elite 871 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:02,719 in that category. But I think the real X factor 872 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,280 for them is in Matis lookaitis like his emergence from 873 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,480 like a good mid major transfer into like a really 874 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,039 good big twelve big man has certainly or SEC big man. 875 00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:14,039 Sorry that Texas is not in the Big twelve anymore. 876 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:18,199 It's certainly definitely changed the calculus for that Texas group. 877 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,559 But I still think they go down this week. I 878 00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,760 just I think pretty was a tough matchup for them 879 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,320 across the board. In this Texas defense that we know 880 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,559 has real issues. I think they could get carved by 881 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,719 the best offense in college basketball, a team I'm. 882 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: Kind of rooting for. 883 00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 4: You know, maybe it's nostalgia for me because I grew 884 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,599 up in there. I'm only you know, I'm forty three, 885 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,199 but kind of for Saint John's to upset Duke as well. 886 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,000 We've seen the best, and we seen the worst, and 887 00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,400 the best of Duke am was, you know, lost one 888 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,519 to Sienos in that one sixteen matchup, and then they 889 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:53,880 showed their best face versus TCU destroying. 890 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 3: The horn Frogs. 891 00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,039 Speaker 4: What type of team are were going to see from 892 00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,840 from Duke versus Saint John's. Do you think that's an 893 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,079 they should? That be an upset alert game. 894 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,039 Speaker 9: It's certainly an upset alert game because I don't think 895 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,760 the talent level between Saint John's and Duke is all 896 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,719 that far. Like it's pretty talented rosters like Zuby. Edge 897 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,039 of four is a all American candidate Bryce Hopkins is 898 00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,440 playing like an all Big East type of guy. Dylan 899 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,440 Mitchell is a freaky wing. They have guards that can 900 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,519 really go right, like if you and Jackson play as well, 901 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,880 Like he was a top ten recruit in the transfer 902 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,719 portal and a top ten recruit in high school for 903 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,119 a reason, So it really wouldn't be a surprise if 904 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,239 Saint John's one. I do kind of feel like this 905 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,280 one all of Like how I was kind of singing 906 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,039 college basketball praises for all of these like beautifully aesthetic 907 00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,719 games in the first weekend. Saint John's Duke is not 908 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,559 going to be that. In my opinion, I think this 909 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,920 one could be like a football game on the basketball 910 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,519 club for both of these just really aggressive big dudes 911 00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:49,519 are just hitting each other for forty minutes, so it's 912 00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,280 gonna be a very very physical game. I think that 913 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,119 both these teams guard each other really well, and just 914 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,920 the avalanche of like who read that out rebounds the 915 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,719 other I think is actually going to tilt the scales 916 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,079 in this one because Duke is so good at limiting 917 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,119 the boards, and if you can keep Saint John's off 918 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:07,000 the offensive glass, you certainly have a chance to beat them, 919 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:11,199 like that's Saint John's team got six threes from Bryce Hopkins, right, Like, 920 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,519 that's the most of his career. I think mostly had 921 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,039 ever made a game. Four was three. They got eleven 922 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,119 offensive rebounds against Kansas. They shot thirty. You know, they 923 00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,320 made eleven threes, which is a great thing for them, 924 00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,159 and they still only managed sixty seven points and managed 925 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,280 under like under a point for possession, So like, it's 926 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920 a limited offense. And I think against a team like Duke, 927 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:31,960 if you can keep them off the offensive glass and 928 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:34,960 just guard them, well, I think Duke could could keep 929 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,400 them under seventy points. And in that scenario, I have 930 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,960 a hard time seeing the Blue Devils lose. 931 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 4: One of the elements that I'm always intrigued by is 932 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,599 the coaching carousel during March Madness. And you know, Herebert 933 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:50,800 Davis out at UNC. The easy thing to do, the 934 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400 low hanging fruit thing to do, the sexy thing to 935 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,280 do for these eighties is to just go out and 936 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,159 find somebody that's currently in the sweet sixteen. 937 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:58,599 Speaker 8: Right. 938 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,679 Speaker 4: I've been looking over at like, you know, kind of 939 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:03,320 a younger coach Otselberger, like that could be an option. 940 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 3: Do you think, you know, where do they target, who 941 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,079 do they target? 942 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 4: They try to go out and get Patino right because 943 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,519 of everything that he's done, and try to pay him 944 00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:14,320 a bag because he's still got vigor and vim and 945 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:18,320 still high energy. Here his halftime speeches and he gets 946 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,679 after it. Oh so Alziburger at Iowa State, he's always overachieving. 947 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 3: I think Mark Pope said. 948 00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 4: He could go pick up, like, you know, five guys 949 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,280 from home depot and create like a top twenty five 950 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,119 defense or something like that with his coaching ability. Anyway, 951 00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:35,559 give me your thoughts on that vacancy and where they're 952 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:36,119 gonna turn to. 953 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,599 Speaker 9: It's it's drastic. It really has a chance to kind 954 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,400 of change the landscape in college basketball because the ripple 955 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,400 effects are huge. So I think the biggest thames you 956 00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,639 look at right now are Billy Donovan, who's at the Bulls. 957 00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:51,960 I think there's a really good chance that Billy Donovan 958 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,800 could leave the Bulls either in the middle of the 959 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,679 season or by the end of the season. He'd have 960 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,880 no buyout for Carolina to pay, and Carolina could be 961 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,960 a really attractive spot. I think people look at him 962 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,599 and be like, well, you know, if you want to 963 00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:05,320 come back to this Arab college basketball. I'd argue this 964 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,960 Arab college basketball is easier for Billy Donovan to come 965 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,840 back and coach at right. It's more transactional than ever. 966 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,719 You're not spending three years chasing kids down on the 967 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,960 recruiting trail and trying to know everybody, right, like it's 968 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,719 the zooms, here's our pitch, here's the money, here's the role. 969 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,719 Do you want to play here? And like so I 970 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,960 feel like that actually might be easier for him to 971 00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,440 get on board with something like that. So he's certainly 972 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,440 their top name on the board right now. But there's 973 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,880 some big names too that they're looking at. Tommy Lloyd 974 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,679 from Arizona, tj Ossselberger at Iowa State, Dusty May at Michigan. 975 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,519 Those would be the three names I'd also keep an 976 00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,920 eye on if those four don't coalesce, like I think 977 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,960 Otzenberger would actually do a really good job there. But 978 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,920 say those four don't come through, I think then you're 979 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,679 kind of looking at a crop of names that would 980 00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,880 probably include like a Mark Byington at Vanderbilt, who's done 981 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,719 a great job everywhere he's been. But I just have 982 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,719 a hard time seeing like North Carolina off with a 983 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,199 job to t J Olzilberger him saying no, right, and 984 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,159 we know he's one of the best coaches in college 985 00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,960 basket When if that happened, I think Carolina would feel 986 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,559 pretty good about its upside in future. 987 00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:12,599 Speaker 4: I just wonder, is is TJ refined enough? Is he 988 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,639 dapper enough? Is he white collar enough for UNC? 989 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,599 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? He seems pretty gritty, pretty 990 00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:19,760 blue collar, you know what I mean? 991 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,199 Speaker 4: And it rough around the edges around them UNC, you know, 992 00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:25,679 tar heeled donors. 993 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,039 Speaker 9: I totally agree with you. That's exactly what I was 994 00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:32,079 thinking as well, too, because, like if you've read about 995 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:34,079 t J. Alsenberg, he wakes up at four fifty nine 996 00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:36,559 every morning because he wants to have his idea that 997 00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:37,760 he got up before or five. 998 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,079 Speaker 5: Right. 999 00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 9: He's militaristic in the way that his programs run like 1000 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,559 it's very like by the book, and we're all together 1001 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:47,480 in this. It's almost like boot camp esque, right. I 1002 00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:49,440 think his dad was in the army, so there's. 1003 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 3: Like no entitlement, no entitlement. We don't bring in entitlement. 1004 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 9: Exactly, and so it's a it's a different thing. And 1005 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,199 you could argue that North Carolina needs change, they need 1006 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,159 something different like that. Would everybody be on board with it? 1007 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,159 I think that's the question, and it's a fair one, 1008 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,159 right where whereas like like let's just call it spada staate, 1009 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,480 Like if Kansas opened up, I could see Ozolberger looking 1010 00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:14,960 at that Kansas job being more attractive to Kansas and 1011 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:18,639 Carolina Like that just is what it is. But yeah, 1012 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,800 it's it's really those dynamics and these coaching carousels are 1013 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,639 so fascinating and the ripple effects are obvious because it's 1014 00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:27,400 just it has a chance to impact the portal, impact 1015 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,719 the coaching carousel, impact who's available, like money is going 1016 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,880 to be nuts, like and and I was kind of 1017 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,760 geared up for a quiet coaching carousel and Carolina and 1018 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,840 maybe Kansas has certainly gone a lot to change that. 1019 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. 1020 00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 4: Uh, if you had to put money on it right now, 1021 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,280 who wins the nati are ye leena in u of 1022 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,679 a yoleen in Michigan? Is there going to be an 1023 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,400 upset that you're willing to put your name on We 1024 00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:51,119 won't quote you. 1025 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 3: We're not going to put it in quotes. 1026 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,199 Speaker 9: Okay, Well thanks for not thanks for not quoting that 1027 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,960 but I've gone with Arizona for a while and I'm 1028 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,719 I'm just gonna lean with it, you know. I think 1029 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,159 the reason why is I'm just in on skilled size 1030 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,119 and the pure ros size that that whole team has. 1031 00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:11,000 It's just really hard to account for it. And here's 1032 00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:13,480 the other thing too, Braden Burry's is playing not like 1033 00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:15,360 a good guard, He's playing like a great guard. And 1034 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,119 so I think when you add him to the mix 1035 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,199 alongside you know, you know, just the steadiness of Jaden 1036 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,960 Bradley and just their elite defenders at every position, that 1037 00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:26,360 gives me the slight edge. But Arizona Michigan, I'm telling 1038 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,760 you that feels like the two best teams, and I 1039 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,599 don't know how that game is gonna go. Arizona has 1040 00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:32,880 the best backcourt. I would say Michigan has a slightly 1041 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,679 better front court. Their coaching is even, their benches kind 1042 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,599 of even. So I give Arizona the slightest nod there. 1043 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,280 But there's also part of me that wonders that, like, hey, 1044 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,960 if the winner of that Arizona Michigan game, like, is 1045 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,519 there a chance they're just buddied or bloodied and battered 1046 00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:48,800 and bruised after that forty minute game, Like if they're 1047 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,519 a little bit, they just don't have enough in the 1048 00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,880 tank for that following Monday against whoever. So the door 1049 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,440 is certainly opened for maybe in Illinois or a Houston 1050 00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:57,920 or Duke or something like that. But I'll ride with 1051 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,000 Arizona for here on out. 1052 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, you know, we're in Big twelve country, right, 1053 00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:06,039 I was hoping maybe you they Houston match up in 1054 00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,280 the Natty. I thought that could you know, all the 1055 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,119 Big Twelve acolytes advocates, they just want to get that 1056 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,320 confirmation by so that the Big twelve was and is 1057 00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:19,119 the best conference in America, even though they only got 1058 00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:21,559 eight seeds and the SEC got ten. 1059 00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:22,559 Speaker 3: Tell me how that happened. 1060 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,199 Speaker 9: I think it's just more top heavy, right, Like, I 1061 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,360 think it's pretty clear the top of the Big Twelve 1062 00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:32,480 is on a different tier than a lot of the leagues, right. 1063 00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:33,840 I think them in the Big Ten are the top 1064 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,559 two leagues for me this year. Like, I don't. I 1065 00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:39,599 didn't see the SEC on that caliber. I know they 1066 00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:41,280 were number one on Keen Pond, but I just the 1067 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,199 eye test was not the same. You know, there's a 1068 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,480 lot of teams in that league that did not play 1069 00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:48,440 defense or and in the Big twelve, like it's way 1070 00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:50,800 better scouted. In the Big ten, it's way better scouted. 1071 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,119 So for me, it's a Big ten or Big twelve conversation. 1072 00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:54,719 I think we'll let that play out on the floor 1073 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,960 if Arizona and Michigan go ahead to head in the 1074 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,480 final four. 1075 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,679 Speaker 4: Love it, Isaac Trott, Ladies and gentlemen, CBS Sports and 1076 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,039 twenty four to seven as well, Isaac. 1077 00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,519 Speaker 3: Best way to support you? 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