WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.200 Good evening, folks. It is Saturday and you are watching 2 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:06.160 the nonprofits. This is our last segment for this week, 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.240 and we are going to discuss something that I would 4 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:14.039 consider delusional if I were to refer to yesterday's segment. 5 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:18.480 I don't think anybody can present this next article without 6 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.839 uncovering some delusion. But who cares what I think? Kelly 7 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:24.039 Loughlett is here to take us away. Kelly. 8 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.480 Thanks. Jimmy, you know, the leader of the infamous Focus 9 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.960 on Family, Jim Daly, has written a hit piece on 10 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.560 the left for Fox News. In a gloating diatribe, he 11 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.200 claims the left is just a bunch of whiners that 12 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.000 can't get over losing the election. But as I recall, 13 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.960 it was the right that had more hysterical fits than 14 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.840 I see coming from the left today, including still four 15 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.439 years later, claiming the election was stolen, without of course, 16 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:53.759 providing any proof to. 17 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:54.399 Back that up. 18 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.880 Now, when mister Daly seems to have forgotten is that 19 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.679 this country is for all Americans, not just Christian nationalists. 20 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:06.159 And as he revels in his victory, he characterizes the 21 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:10.000 left as crazy and unhinged. But what it seems like 22 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:13.439 he's really saying is screw all you people if you 23 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:16.760 aren't a Christian, because we are in power now and 24 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:20.840 we will use the government to steamroll a religious right agenda, 25 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.640 and there's nothing you can do about it if you 26 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:28.319 have other religious beliefs or non beliefs. This story is 27 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.920 as I said by Jim Dailey from Fox News, published 28 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:34.120 November seventeenth, twenty twenty four. 29 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.159 Yeah, excellent. You know, I see a lot of similarities 30 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:40.599 between this article and the article that we covered earlier 31 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:43.480 this week on Monday, Kelly, you brought it up and 32 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:49.480 nailed it. You know, this guy threatening to steamroll democratic 33 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.120 policies or democratic you know, sectors of the government with 34 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.439 a right wing agenda. You know, we saw that affecting 35 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.159 the education system. And when I said that on Monday, 36 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.719 I said, man, I have to chuckle any time I 37 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.400 see somebody on the right, you know, having a problem 38 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.360 with LGBTQ or gender studies. And in the same token, 39 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:12.879 again we find ourselves saying to members on the right, 40 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:17.759 are you out of your mind? Calling the left hysterical? 41 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:22.039 Nobody's making gallows or taking a crap on a desk 42 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.719 in the Capitol building that they forced their way into 43 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:29.439 right and so you know, I have to wonder is 44 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:32.479 this just more delusion? And you know, Aaron, I want 45 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.240 to start with you, in the context of this article, 46 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:37.400 in the context of the election that we went through 47 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.719 and the change that we're about to see, do some 48 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:42.280 Americans have a right to be hysterical? 49 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.560 Absolutely, I think they have a right to be hysterical. 50 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:50.800 This this election was not for the for the people 51 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.759 that are hysterical, for the liberal tiers that are being shed. 52 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:56.599 It's not about the fucking policies. It's not about the 53 00:02:56.599 --> 00:03:02.680 fucking platforms, right, It's about patriotism to our constitution and 54 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:08.439 loyalty to the rule of law. What happened was so 55 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:12.159 far beyond policies. There's On a recent episode of Last 56 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:14.560 Week Tonight with John Oliver, John Oliver made the joke 57 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.680 that right now, talking about policies is a little like 58 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:19.919 trying to choose a paint color for your walls while 59 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.639 your house is burning down. That's where all the liberal 60 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:26.039 hysterical tiers are coming from, is the fact that we 61 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:32.560 just elected someone who blatantly broke his vow to protect 62 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:35.520 and defend the constitution and the rule of law. 63 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.360 That has pour gas all over and holding the match 64 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:39.639 to burn the house down, That. 65 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.560 Literally tried to get his vice president killed, That literally 66 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.159 tried to ask his vice president to overturn the results 67 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.800 of a fair and secure election, and has spread lies 68 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.280 to such an extent that one third of Americans believe 69 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:56.520 the twenty twenty election was stolen when there's no evidence 70 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:59.280 that it was stolen. That's where the liberal tiers are 71 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.599 coming from. It's not about policies. It's about the loss 72 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.879 of liberty. It's about the loss of individual freedom. It's 73 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.520 about the loss of the Constitution, which ushered in an 74 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.680 era of democracy and peace into the world. It's about 75 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:17.879 disregarding for that. Where people decided, well, I don't think 76 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.480 the rule of law is that important. I think the 77 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.240 economy is more important. I think these policies are more important. 78 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:28.199 That's where people are hysterical, in my opinion. That's where 79 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.240 I was at. That's what really hurt me was just 80 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:35.079 the lack of disregard for the Constitution and the rule 81 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:39.839 of law that this election demonstrated. Honestly, I honestly I 82 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.199 never thought Trump would ever get elected again, just for 83 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.160 that reason. I always thought, Hey, you know what, I 84 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.240 understood why people wanted to give him a chance in 85 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.560 twenty sixteen. Sure, I understood, Hey, a new guy, an 86 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.800 outsider i'd interview with his policies, so let's give him 87 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:58.040 a chance. But he's so clearly demonstrated through gotcha. Yeah, yeah, 88 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.000 I mean I can't believe it. 89 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.160 I think, yeah, I and and maybe you're even a 90 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.399 little bit hysterical right now. And I think you have 91 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.480 a right to be. And it's not just the Constitution 92 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.040 that I think people are concerned about, although that is, 93 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.000 if you had a single issue that you that you 94 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:19.839 were concerned about the Constitution or the disregard the lack 95 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.600 of regard that Aaron mentioned is certainly a good enough 96 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.000 reason to be concerned. But I mean, let's talk about 97 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:28.319 all of the other laws. You know, there's uh, there 98 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:30.800 were felonies, right there were there were that we have 99 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.879 for the first time in our history a president elect 100 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.079 who is a convicted felon and was found liable for 101 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:40.759 sexual assault. These are alarming, alarming for a lot of 102 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.000 Americans from all walks of life. And so, uh yeah, 103 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.160 I think that for people on the right to point 104 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:52.600 the finger at h at left leftists quote unquote, uh, 105 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:54.959 for for having a concern over the rule of law 106 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:58.560 being violated when the people on the right actively violated 107 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.160 the law for the reasons that they're accusing the left 108 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.519 of is complete hypocrisy. And you know, I think I 109 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:08.480 want to go to Kelly about this because I know 110 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:12.480 you you introduced the article right, and you covered it 111 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.120 a little bit. But you know, my first thought was, 112 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.399 wait a minute. Conservatives don't get upset when their candidate loses. 113 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.959 I mean, what what the hell am I missing? And Kelly, 114 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:22.920 could you please expand on that. 115 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.279 Oh, they don't even need to have their candidate lose. 116 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.759 They can get upset about all kinds of crazy things. 117 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.279 I think the author forgot about everyone's shooting bud light cans, 118 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:36.319 burning their nikes, beating their curags with a baseball bet. 119 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.360 Those are all things I remember the right doing, just 120 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.000 over a stuff that they didn't like. Oh my god, 121 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.839 Nike came out and said that LGBTQ people were, Okay, 122 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.959 let's burn our shoe. I mean, people, why would you 123 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.079 burn something that you already spent money in? How is 124 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:55.480 that hurning Nike company? It doesn't make any sense at all. 125 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.680 It reminded me of the sixties when Beatles sit record 126 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.959 sales went up so high because people were buying them 127 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:05.079 just to burn them at church. So I don't it 128 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:06.480 just seems to didn't. 129 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:07.759 I did not know that. 130 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:12.079 Yo, you didn't know. Yeah, that actually happened. And one 131 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.240 of the things that really got me about this was 132 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.480 that the author decides to quote two Democrats, only two 133 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:20.879 that he can find, and one is totally embroiled in 134 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:24.360 ethical issues and honestly, if he had ran back in 135 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.839 say nineteen eighty, he would have been a Republican. And 136 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:31.800 the other one only disagrees with the left on one issue, 137 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.759 one issue, only trans rights, and that issue is and 138 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:39.319 what he said is is that issue is hurting the 139 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.240 Democrats at the ballot box. He didn't say he was 140 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.319 against trans rights, just that it was hurting Democrats at 141 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:51.040 the ballot box. So yeah, go ahead. I didn't say. 142 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.800 He does quote one other person, Chuck Coulson. 143 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:54.319 Oh. 144 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.759 I don't know if anybody knows who Chuck Coulson was. 145 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.759 He was Nixon's hatchet man with the prison over the 146 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.839 water Gate scandal. So I think it's really funny that like, 147 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:05.800 of the three people he quotes, one really doesn't agree 148 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.079 with him, and the other two are apparently criminals. So 149 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.079 you think he could find better people to prove his point. 150 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.839 Right, Well, yeah, you know, there's a lot of I 151 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.279 think there are a lot of criminals that the right 152 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.439 can point to nowadays, right, especially with some cabinet picks, 153 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:24.399 people who just came out of jail, people who have 154 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:28.600 problems with sexual assault. I don't know how you could 155 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:32.440 have that problem and still be considered for a cabinet, 156 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:36.360 let alone be elected to office. But that is a 157 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.000 kind of a different Again, you can get. 158 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:40.799 Drunk at work and be in charge of the button. 159 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.440 Yeah, right, right, So we are in a bit of 160 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:49.200 a debacle. And as we have talked about in you know, 161 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:51.080 we talk about all the time on this show, but 162 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.399 as we have talked about earlier in this week, the 163 00:08:54.600 --> 00:09:00.000 relationship between religion and government. You know, I want to 164 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:04.679 turn to Eli and his opinion about secular and religious beliefs. 165 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:08.600 You mentioned, you know, leading up to this show, that 166 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.600 secular religious beliefs do have the same cognitive foundation. So 167 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:15.279 I want to unpack that a little, see if you 168 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:16.000 want to expand. 169 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.360 Yeah, so, and that kind of that's just a remnant 170 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:23.879 from yesterday's show where we talked about beliefs and delusions 171 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.440 basically come from the same place in our brain. So, 172 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.519 you know, Daly says here at one point, you know, 173 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:35.480 from abortion fanaticism to policies that celebrate sexual confusion. Radicals 174 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.120 practice their political ideology with religious zeal and fervor basically 175 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.399 comparing secular like saying a well, secularism as a religion too. 176 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:46.279 And so what, you know, what you're referring to is 177 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.960 where we know that based on kind of what we 178 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:53.440 learned yesterday about beliefs having the same origin, whether they're 179 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.320 true or delusional, secular and religious beliefs do have the 180 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.440 same cognitive origin or foundation, but one of them is 181 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:04.120 lacking a critical ingredient or supplement, and that is, you know, 182 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:08.879 experimental evidence or like just some objectively true thing to 183 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:14.440 like support it. So when you have things like you know, 184 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:17.600 he says, I mean, and he says things like the 185 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.279 reason you are upset because you know, upset about your 186 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.000 candidate losing, or the reason you're upset about the election 187 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.639 result is because you're not close enough to God, not 188 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.559 because like you're part of a marginalized group that is, 189 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.399 you know, constantly being targeted by you know, this party 190 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.919 that now has complete control over all three branches. Not 191 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:36.720 because your healthcare is at risk of you're at risk 192 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:39.399 of losing access to healthcare, not because you know you're 193 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.360 homosexual and you you know, enjoy being married and you know, 194 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:44.240 living your life and just being the person that you are, 195 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:47.879 but just because you're not focused on God enough. And 196 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.120 it's it's this idea that he's saying that all of 197 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:55.480 those things are not important, like it those things just 198 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:58.200 don't matter that like you're saying that that's why you're 199 00:10:58.279 --> 00:10:59.559 upset about. 200 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:01.559 The election or the results. 201 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.159 Are the reasons that Aaron gave were very I hadn't 202 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.759 even thought of, but some valid reasons as well. And 203 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.200 what Daly is saying is like, that's what you're telling 204 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.120 us is the reason, but the real reason is because 205 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.480 you don't love Jesus enough. And I think that is 206 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:14.600 absolutely delusional. 207 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.000 Yeah, yeah, there are some other delusions too. I mean, 208 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:22.320 the the right for some reason, thinks that the left 209 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:27.600 has a trans agenda, that their plan is to like 210 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:32.600 have transgender people take over schools and the country and 211 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:37.559 the government. I've seen this on far right shows, you know, 212 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.639 and speaking about Aaron's points, I want to ask Aaron Aaron. 213 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.679 Is the idea of a trans agenda overblown? Why is 214 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:49.600 this the issue that the right chooses to embolden their base? 215 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:50.639 And so so? 216 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:55.320 Yeah, I think that I would The only reason people 217 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.200 tackle on an issue is because it gets their base. 218 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.759 It gets it gets them elected, it gives them right. 219 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.720 If it wasn't an issue that got them elected, they 220 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:06.440 wouldn't harp on it, right, If they were losing votes 221 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:08.919 because of it, they would stop, you know, harping on it. 222 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:13.919 There's no trans agenda on the left, Allard. All the 223 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:17.080 left is doing with trans is we're listening to people. 224 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.919 We believe them when they share their experiences about their gender. 225 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.480 We listen to people that study this kind of thing, 226 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.039 and we believe what the experts are saying that gender 227 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.200 is a spectrum. Gender isn't a binary, It isn't left 228 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.720 and right. It's a spectrum. It is also a social contract. 229 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.320 That means we make it up as a culture, as 230 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:39.279 a group of people in this country. We make up 231 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.440 what gender means. We make up what it means to 232 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:42.840 be a man, we make up what it means to 233 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:44.960 be a woman. And when you make that up, why 234 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.759 can't someone who was born one way feel a different way, 235 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.440 and vice versa. Right, So the only people with an 236 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.360 agenda are the right. The whole point of this guy's 237 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.440 article seems to be I'm getting the theocracy. I want 238 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:58.480 what's your guys' problem? 239 00:12:58.759 --> 00:12:59.000 Yeah? 240 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:02.879 Right, And his arguments against the left seem to be 241 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.840 just projections about the very things that he and the 242 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:09.759 right are doing. They're the ones that have created the 243 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:14.240 transgender issue, right, They're the ones being dogmatic about things, 244 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:16.759 and they're accusing the left of being dogmatic, but they're 245 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.120 the ones that are saying, oh no, there're can only 246 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:22.000 be left, they're only be man woman. That's dogmatic. That's 247 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:24.120 an agenda. That's an agenda because. 248 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.159 They won the abortion issue, right and so. 249 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.960 But but unfortunately their policies lead to people dying. When 250 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:35.360 you don't give transgender people the care they need. People 251 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.759 die when you don't problem. When you limit access to abortion, 252 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:43.759 women die. And I just don't understand why people can't 253 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.200 can't see that. Yeah, well, the policies on the left 254 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:50.080 of allowing access to abortion, allowing access to transgender care 255 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.720 that helps people live and be and stay alive. 256 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:57.039 Yeah. And the reason I bring up the transgender issue 257 00:13:57.159 --> 00:14:00.200 is because you know, there is there is some fanaticism, 258 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.159 just like Eli was talking about with the abortion fanaticism, 259 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:08.559 Like there's there is fanaticism over sexuality for some reason 260 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:15.200 on the right, probably because there's such similarities between conservative 261 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.039 thinking and religion, you know, that which is obsessed with 262 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.480 with sexuality, that it kind of just comes out in 263 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.879 their politics. You know, I think this is kind of 264 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:27.200 like beating a dead horse at this point. You know, 265 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:30.080 what what is it going to take to get people 266 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:35.519 to realize that Christianity or religion in general in government 267 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.360 is resulting in this hatred. And Kelly, you know, not 268 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:41.600 to pick on you, not to be an agist, but 269 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:47.080 you talked about Beatles albums being burned in churches right 270 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:52.399 in the sixties. So have we improved or what was 271 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:52.960 going on? 272 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:56.159 No, we've gotten worse. We we go to you know, 273 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.039 people talk about the Satanic panic of the eighties, Right, 274 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:02.480 that wasn't the Satanic panic that we had a huge 275 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:06.960 one in the eighteen nineties that resulted in alcohol being illegalized. Right, 276 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:10.559 Science funding was just pretty much stopped in America at 277 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:14.720 that point because of religious fervor. So that was really 278 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.320 against a social issue, right, drinking that was their big 279 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:21.639 satanic panic. Then a few years go by eighties, roll up, 280 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:24.000 and now we're going to go against games, D and 281 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.799 D games, rock and roll music. We're looking at things again, right, 282 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.440 and now we're in another satanic panic, let's face it, 283 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.279 and this time it's not about a thing, It's about people. Right. 284 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.360 So as savage as these last two panics were against 285 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.799 the subject of the panic, if that kind of animosity 286 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:47.399 gets pulled over towards people, those people are in a 287 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:53.000 very dangerous situation. Right. This is unlike any other crazy 288 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:57.000 religious fervor we've had before. And here's this guy president 289 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.360 to focus on family. Everybody know National Day of Prayer 290 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.120 that got started by focus on family. This is a 291 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.120 guy saying this is what we need to have. This 292 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.679 is what we're gonna do. We're now in charge of 293 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:12.320 the government. And in a way, you know, I hate 294 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.039 to boil it down to like one issue or something 295 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.279 like this, but when I was going to the ballot 296 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:20.200 box this November, one of the things I was thinking 297 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:25.279 is I have to vote for genocide against the LGBTQQ community, 298 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.960 or I have to vote for genocide against Palestinians. And 299 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:30.919 I was, you know, how do you judge, how do 300 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.480 you decide what you're gonna do when you got that 301 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.639 the juice from so I had to go with trying 302 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:39.720 to save the person on my block instead of the 303 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.320 person on the other side of the world. 304 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.639 So well, you know it's not that simple. I mean, 305 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:46.159 I know that, you know it's not. 306 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.840 I know it's not. But it's like that in a 307 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.039 way that gets the way it boiled down to me 308 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:52.360 in a way that but. 309 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.960 You could have removed that. You could have removed that 310 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.600 conflict completely and had a completely different conflict that stood 311 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:05.119 out as as profound. For example, for me, it was 312 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:09.680 do I do I vote for the people who value 313 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:13.160 law and order or do I vote for the people 314 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.839 who think it's okay to lie about an election and 315 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:19.240 overthrow the government, knowing full well that there are other 316 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:21.720 issues on the table that I need to consider, and 317 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:25.200 women it only needs to be a one issue, you know, 318 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:29.079 That's how serious it is in any way, as I 319 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:31.680 you know, I digress a little bit, but not really. 320 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.279 I mean, I think I'm circling back to the point 321 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:37.359 of the topic. We've got people who are hysterical on 322 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:41.640 both sides, where I think one is completely reasonable and 323 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.200 the other is completely unreasonable. And I'll let you, gentlemen 324 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:49.279 decide which which is uh, you know, reasonable, which is not? Well, 325 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.240 who's getting ascribed what in that scenario? But I wanna, 326 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.160 I want to do a final lightning round with each you. 327 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.559 I'll go Aaron Kelly, Eli, Sar, what do you got? 328 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.400 The deep deep rot in the in the Republican Party 329 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.240 is the absolute hypocrisy of their position. 330 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:12.680 Absolute hypocrisy, the absolute hypocrisy, hypocrisy. 331 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.519 And everything they say in the everything they support. If 332 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:19.720 anybody remembers the nineties when Clinton was president, and oh 333 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.279 the awful things the Republicans would say about Clinton because 334 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:27.000 of his sexual proclivities and his actions, how he was 335 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:30.599 unfit for office. And now look where we're at, and 336 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.920 we don't get that same. There's just that they should 337 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:38.440 be absolutely criteria, right, People on Fox New should be like, 338 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:40.839 this guy's not fit for office because that's what we 339 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.920 said against Clinton. He's worse than Clinton but sexually, so 340 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.319 we have to be No, there's just no all the 341 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:50.559 all all that matters is having power, being in control. 342 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.799 The ends justifies the means. Is it's the hypocrisy that 343 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:56.480 drives me hysterical. 344 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:58.759 All right, thank you very much, Kelly. You know, yeah 345 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:02.039 that you're so oh so so right there. And I 346 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:07.079 hate to see younger people flocking to that hYP hypocrisy, 347 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:08.920 but a lot of a lot of these kids have 348 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:12.160 already been indoctrinated to it because of religion. How much 349 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.119 of that hypocrisy hypocrisy do we see in religion too, 350 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:17.519 So it just becomes like a part of life. 351 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:20.960 You just accept it. And that's we've gotten more. We've 352 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:24.880 become more and more and more accepting of people saying 353 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:28.079 one thing and then doing another. And I think that's 354 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:30.799 been a really really big problem in our country. That's 355 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:32.039 about all I got, so. 356 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.039 Eli, Uh yeah, I'm at the point anymore, kind of 357 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:37.720 along the lines of what you were saying, Kelly, or 358 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.400 both of you were saying, not really surprised anymore when, like, 359 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.799 you know, people in power do or don't go through 360 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:45.680 with things they did or didn't say they would or 361 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:48.079 wouldn't do. I'm just like, yeah, I mean that tracks 362 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:51.160 I'm fully prepared to like buy it, but it pay 363 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.160 It's just, yeah, one of those things we're so accustomed to. 364 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.759 We we know that this system is fucked, and we're 365 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:02.039 just like, yeah, it's kind of that way, and it's 366 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:05.160 really just sort of disheartening when you think about it. 367 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:09.119 I'm wondering where when is rock bottom? 368 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:12.920 I fear that we're going to find out because I 369 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.759 was going to have to vote. You know what, Kelly, 370 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:17.559 Kelly's the person to answer that question. 371 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:20.359 Right, It's right, it's right there, you know. 372 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:27.240 I so checks and balances my ass. Okay, checks and 373 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:32.079 balances my ass. What happens when all three branches of 374 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:37.000 the government coalesce, right, they acquiesce with each other's agenda, 375 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.720 And we've not seen that before to the scale that 376 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:43.559 we have the United that's right, that is right, that 377 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.880 is exactly right, and the people who have control of 378 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:50.359 all three branches are not right. And I got to 379 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:51.039 say the one. 380 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:55.079 I was hardened by the fact that two cabinet picks 381 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.000 were checked by the Senate and they've already withdrawn. So maybe, 382 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.559 you know, maybe they're a little bit of hope, hopefully, yeah, 383 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:04.240 from some good thinking. 384 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:07.400 Still, so this opens up a can of worms. And 385 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.359 you know, I just need to point out two things, right, 386 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.000 So one, I wanted to say that the single greatest 387 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:16.759 failure of our constitution is a Supreme Court. Okay, We're 388 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:19.279 on a topic right where I think it's appropriate to 389 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.799 mention that because the Supreme Court was deliberately designed in 390 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:24.759 such a way that they would not be politicized, and 391 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:29.160 that is exactly the opposite of what's happening. So complete failure, right, 392 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:33.240 and it's actually allowing for the checks and balances to fail. Two, 393 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:38.680 we have got a private citizen, Elon Musk, threatening the 394 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:45.599 arrest of Democrats in office and threatening to fund primaries 395 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.200 for anybody that does not go along with the president 396 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.920 of lex agenda. That is incredibly dangerous. The richest man 397 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:55.920 in the world has essentially bought himself a kingship, a 398 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:58.720 kingship in the most powerful country in the world, with 399 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:01.960 the most powerful military and the larged economy. And it's 400 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:06.000 an awful thing to think about. So where is rock bottom, Aaron? 401 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:08.759