WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.359 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:12.439 are your favorites, so like to say to subscribe and 3 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:13.240 rain it. 4 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:16.199 Five Stock and me. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:24.000 Great, just gone yesterday and listening watching lim always keep 6 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:24.879 its watching. 7 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.440 And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Boobo Fay. 8 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:34.840 Cliff, I got your text messages and the pictures looks 9 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:36.039 like you got a big weekend. 10 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.079 Oh man, I've been I've been running ragged, dude. It 11 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.920 it's been nutty, nutty, nutty. And we're gonna hear more 12 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.359 about that today with our guests when we bring them 13 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.359 on in a few minutes here. But yeah, let me 14 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.759 tell you it's it's been NonStop since pretty much a 15 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.079 week before the Meldrum event. And the Meldrum event was 16 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.759 on the twenty fifth of January. It's insane. 17 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:55.439 What have you been up to? 18 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:57.479 Bobs? Everybody knows what I've been doing, but what have 19 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:57.960 you been up to? 20 00:00:58.399 --> 00:00:59.039 Ah's out. 21 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.520 I came out from back East with his son and 22 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.480 he's cool guy. I think, yeah, you've You've spoke to 23 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:08.280 him on the phone before. He likes to stay in 24 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:10.359 the background, keep his name out of things. 25 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:11.680 But we went out. 26 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.439 He wanted to check out some spots on the coast 27 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.560 here and go to the Willow Creek Museum and that 28 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.079 sort of stuff. So we did that and his son 29 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.640 came out and joined us. Really cool guy. So but 30 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.079 we had a good time. I mean, we definitely sat 31 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:27.760 in some rain and endured some of that. But we 32 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:31.040 got up to uh, the Willow Creek big Foot Museum 33 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.799 up there, and they got a new guy up he's 34 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:35.879 he's been there for probably a year now. He's retired 35 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:39.319 law enforcement officer, guy Eric, and he's got a brother, Chris. 36 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:42.799 He's also a buddy that I went out with last 37 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:47.200 November when I heard those three calls up in Trinity 38 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:48.840 when I was out there with him and Poully looking 39 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.680 for firewood and we got the firewood. Yeah, I heard 40 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:54.560 those ones out there, So it was his brother. Eric 41 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:57.159 is now retired and he's working out there at Willow 42 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.359 Creek and they got some big plans to redo that 43 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.200 place and staggered. It's been the same for twenty years whatever. 44 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:04.560 It's just they haven't changed anything in there, and they've 45 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.719 got stuff in the back room, so they're gonna revamp 46 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.599 the interiories. He's gonna he's in touch with one of 47 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.840 the big name guys from back in the fifties and sixties, 48 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.719 local guy that was, you know, a contemporary of Al Hodgson, 49 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:22.879 whose son is a retired lagger. And he's gonna get 50 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:25.400 us in a group meeting. We're gonna all get together 51 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.199 for lunch. And he says, oh, I know, I know 52 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.280 where they took the prints back in the sixties, you know, 53 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.680 down in High End Palm. He knows exactly those were casts. 54 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:37.240 So he's gonna take us to those spots. And this guy, 55 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.039 I guess is a natural. I haven't spoke to him 56 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:41.680 personally yet, but I guess he's a natural storyteller. And 57 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:45.840 he's got a lot of info about Apparently his dad 58 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:48.360 saw Roger and Bob when they came out with Al Hotson. 59 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.680 He they called them, they called both those guys. His 60 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.080 dad was there when they came out, when they before 61 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:56.520 I went to Eureka. And so I'm hoping to get 62 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.919 some really cool info and if if he's gonna kind 63 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:02.759 of see how it goes too, and if we hit 64 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:03.800 it off, I'm sure we will. 65 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:07.360 He is a meanable to coming on the podcast. 66 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:09.800 Oh nice, nice, I know who you're talking about I 67 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.080 had a long conversation with this gentleman. He has his 68 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:15.039 own observations of Sasquatches. He was right there in the 69 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.840 in the middle of everything with the history of it. 70 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.520 That is going to be fantastic. And you know, since 71 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:22.360 you know these people at the Willow Creek Museum, if 72 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.520 you can go ahead and pass on my information, if 73 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:27.319 there's anything I can do to help them out, anything 74 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.199 at all, I'm happy to do that. Yeah. So, if 75 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:30.800 there's anything I can do, go ahead and pass on 76 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.360 my number to them. I'm happy to help out any 77 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:33.039 other museums. 78 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.960 Yeah, it's kind of like I had to tell them, 79 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:37.639 like I said, Yeah, now I'm kind of torn. 80 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:39.120 You know, I said, you're. 81 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:40.879 My first love, but I do love is the NABC, 82 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:42.639 and I kind of got to stick with that, you know, 83 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.039 like if I get something really good, Oh. 84 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:46.840 There's room for both. There's room for both. There's no 85 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.479 competition in this because they're in California. I'm up here 86 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.680 in the Portland area that there there's plenty going on here. 87 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:56.360 I'll tell you that, you know, all that historical stuff 88 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:59.199 should should be housed down there in the area in 89 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.479 which it was found. That's really amazing. You know, the 90 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:03.960 tipmus collection stands on its own. It is one of 91 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.439 the most fantastic things you can put your eyes on 92 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:10.360 if you're interested in bigfoot stuff. And I'm thrilled to 93 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.520 hear that they're going to augment the museum and perhaps 94 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.199 update it because you know, I've gone through the drawers there. 95 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.120 You know, they've got a lot of stuff that isn't 96 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.120 on display and it's just been kind of sitting there, 97 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:22.959 and I think that they could perhaps do something more 98 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:24.800 with the museum, and I think that it's it's about 99 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:26.639 time they do. I'm thrilled to hear it. 100 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:27.759 Yeah, I'm not. 101 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:29.839 You know, I noticed there was stuff missing from the 102 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:31.920 drawers because I've gone through the drawers like a bunch 103 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.399 of times, and we went through and again I was like, 104 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.079 I know, there's some good casts that are missing out 105 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.680 of this, but I hope there's just upstairs wherever they're 106 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:40.279 storage you know it. 107 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:45.120 You know, but he's trying to They were looking at you. 108 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.720 From just the last year since he's been there, it's 109 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.480 about ninety eight point five percent of the people that 110 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.720 come in come in to see the Bigfoot collection and 111 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.560 not like the you know, mining equipment and you know 112 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.920 the typical you know wild West museum, you know, mining 113 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:05.839 museum type thing. So he's trying to gently get a 114 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:07.839 little more space, maybe move out some of the stuff 115 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:10.759 from the mining stuff and put in more big foot things. 116 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:12.120 So that's what that's what I mean, give the people 117 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:13.560 what they want. That's what people are there for. 118 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.040 Yeah. Yeah, at the end of the day, I think 119 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.079 that the Willow Creek stuff is best known for bigfoot. 120 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:20.639 I mean, look around town at the statues and the 121 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.240 murals and all that other stuff. I mean, Willow Creek 122 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.319 is known for that and perhaps a little bit less 123 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.279 for prospecting in you know, oil lamps. 124 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:33.920 Right right in the foot of Cliff. Cliff's doppelganger on 125 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:34.319 the wall. 126 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.759 Oh yeah, yeah, that's super funny. Yeah, there's a guy 127 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:39.800 on the wall that looks a lot like me. Man, 128 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:41.680 But I mean I was I wasn't even born when this, 129 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:43.000 I mean when when he died. 130 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:43.240 You know. 131 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.120 It's probably from the nineteen twenties or earlier. I don't 132 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.879 even know when, but it's oddly similar to me. If 133 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:52.160 I had much better taste and facial hair. 134 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:53.399 I'll send you a picture of that. 135 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:56.959 For he has pretty great, we'll. 136 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.399 Put it on the social media's. Yeah, I've seen that picture. 137 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:00.279 He does look like you. 138 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.439 He died before you were born, and you've never been 139 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:03.240 the same since. 140 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:05.959 I know, well at least you know, I know where 141 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:07.920 I was in her previous life. I was in Willow 142 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:10.519 Creek and he had a good style back then, not 143 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:11.000 like now. 144 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:11.720 I look terrible. 145 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:13.759 So so you were out in the where did you go, 146 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:15.399 like up in the coast somewhere. Did you got to 147 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.439 go to the interior or what were you thinking we did? 148 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.319 Because oh, yeah, Well so the first night we went 149 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.639 into one of my old spots, you know, up by 150 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:27.120 Rowad National Park, and we went in and there was 151 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.000 totally dead. I mean there was there was rodents. There 152 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:31.879 was rodents around, but you know, it's quite I said, 153 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.480 you know, it's contympically be dead. And you know it's 154 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.439 usually twenty forty five minutes at least until you know, 155 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.279 from when we stop and sit down and just be quiet, 156 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:42.800 we might get some knocks or you know, here's some 157 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:44.399 stuff coming around us. 158 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:45.879 We didn't hear anything. 159 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.120 I was like, God, like it was dead, but I 160 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:50.600 kind of felt like they could have been around, Like 161 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:52.160 I wasn't I was like, it feels like they could 162 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.600 be around, but I'm not sure. Like and when I 163 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.199 was there too much earlier with Bart, remember I told 164 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:59.480 you about we heard those really late knocks that as 165 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.199 they moved the creak away from us, like really really 166 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.600 subtle knocks, like they weren't knocking for us at all, 167 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.079 that they were knocking so we couldn't hear them just 168 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:10.040 for themselves as they moved away. So I was thinking, like, well, 169 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:14.839 it's probably you know, I think this theres from what 170 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:18.600 I can tell, is maybe a nursery type area. And 171 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:22.839 so we went anyways, we left like one in the 172 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.759 morning whatever, and then say at one thirty. 173 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.079 About a half hour we left crack. 174 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:30.240 He got on the audio when he went back the 175 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.839 next morning and gather the audio, there was about a 176 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:35.800 dozen different knocks, I mean solid knocks. 177 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.319 And where he put the we were hiking. 178 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.600 Out about a mile out whatever it was, say it 179 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.519 was a mile, and where you're hiking a mile, stuff happens. 180 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:48.759 And then near the where you start hiking at that 181 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:53.000 is the other spot where we've had activity. But nothing 182 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.240 in this like it's a dead zone for like you know, 183 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:57.319 three quarters of a mile, there's nothing ever happens in 184 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:03.360 there like ever. And he hung three recorders and the 185 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.519 middle one was in the dead zone. And the knocking 186 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:10.839 went on for I think he said twenty minutes or so. 187 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:14.240 But the interesting thing was the last knock was like 188 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.519 a power knock and it was right by the recorder. 189 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.600 Like they came into this area that I thought they 190 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:23.759 didn't come into, and they that was the last power knock. 191 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.959 It was a full power knock near the recorder. So 192 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:29.759 that was cool to know that they were problem. I mean, 193 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:31.839 they may have came in after we left, but I 194 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:33.360 think they were there the whole time and after we 195 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.279 left they just did their thing. 196 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.679 Yeah, maybe they're onto you. They like they kind of like, oh, 197 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:39.080 these guys are going to hang out in the dark 198 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.480 for a while, Like they've seen you enough. You're in there, 199 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.399 you know fairly often they might know you personally by now, 200 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.320 in which case they're onto you and they're just waiting 201 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.679 for you to leave because that's what you usually do at. 202 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.799 Some point, right Yeah, yeah, Okay. 203 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.279 So our guest today is Doug Shay. He is a 204 00:08:55.480 --> 00:09:00.840 recent witness. He saw a sasquatch basically almost en route 205 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.480 to a Sasquatch conference, which is crazy, but you know, 206 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.480 weird things have happened, and so Doug, thank you very 207 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:08.919 much for coming on Bigfoot and be on today and 208 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.360 then being willing to share your story with us. 209 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.279 That's Doug all doing well. Good to hear from y'all. 210 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.600 And yeah, it was. I was almost afraid to even 211 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.399 report it at first because of the fact that it 212 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:24.080 was so close to squatch Fest, but I'm glad we 213 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.320 did because it sounds like it's been yielding some really 214 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:27.039 good results. 215 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:29.200 Well I get where you're coming from, because you know, 216 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:31.399 back in the day, I saw something that was dark 217 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.919 and upright with an arms swing and on my while 218 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.000 being driven to the Texas Bigfoot Conference, And to this 219 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.399 day I wonder if that was a sasquatch or not. 220 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.200 But you know, obviously I don't know for sure. It 221 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.159 was such a great distance. But also the fact that 222 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.639 I was on my way to the Texas Bigfoot Conference 223 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.720 and you know, with bigfooters in the front seat, I 224 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.720 just kind of thought like no one would believe me anyway, 225 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.000 So like whatever, man, So I totally get your hesitancy 226 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:59.480 to bring this up, but I'm so glad you did well. 227 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:03.039 Thank you. I knew that I could talk to you 228 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.240 about it because and Carrie also were really glad that 229 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.480 we were able to talk to you about the siding. 230 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:12.440 And Todd was a little disappointed because he was down lower. 231 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:14.440 But and it's funny because we weren't even going to 232 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.039 end up in that area because we first tried the 233 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.960 Mount Saint Helen's area first. But there was so much 234 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.320 snow and it was just there was all kinds of 235 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.200 road damage. I actually had a bad migraine that day, 236 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.039 and it was on Thursday, so we're kind of glad. 237 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:30.679 We decided we saw there was going to be no 238 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.480 rain for about three or four hours, so we said, 239 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.919 let's just jet on down into Oregon and see if 240 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.000 we can stir up something. 241 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:40.679 When you came up to my table at squatch Fest 242 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.159 on Friday and you told me about it, I said, 243 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.679 we saw a sasquatch, so what really? Really? Okay, that's interesting. 244 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:48.559 And I said, okay, well, where was this either some 245 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:51.039 road crossing or something on the five or you know, 246 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.960 or what was going on? And you you said, oh, yeah, 247 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:55.600 I was up at you know, kind of in the 248 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:57.759 area of Sandy Ridge Trail. And I go, oh, my God, 249 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.679 that's right up the road from my home. You know, 250 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.320 those are those are my bigfoots, so to speak. You know, 251 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:08.039 those are the ones that probably cruise through my neighborhood occasionally, 252 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.080 because you know, over the years on the podcast here, 253 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.120 I've kind of mentioned when I think that sasquatches might 254 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.679 have been nearby, you know, either scaring my wife inside 255 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.840 or some knox or vocalizations that I've personally heard on 256 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:21.600 my property, and I think, oh my gosh, those are 257 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.480 probably the same ones. And I've done several, like numerous 258 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:29.480 investigations obviously all up and down the ridge there just 259 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.120 a little further up in Rhododendron. I think I've now 260 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:36.279 investigated maybe four or six or more road crossing sidings 261 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.960 on Highway twenty six. There's been stuff up on Lolo 262 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.360 Pass Road forever, and those are that's all right there 263 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.240 in the neighborhood. In fact, this is kind of kind 264 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.759 of weird, I guess, and some for serendipoitous perhaps, But 265 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.200 just today we acquired another part of another historical collection. 266 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.519 The guy's still alive or whatever, and there's more to come, 267 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:58.240 so I'll save all that until later at some point. 268 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:02.600 But about two file boxes full of things like the 269 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:06.480 track record and some photographs and personal correspondences from Peter 270 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.159 Burrn because he was a good friend that Peter Burns, 271 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:10.120 and all this other stuff. And I was kind of 272 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.799 leafing through a lot of that stuff today getting it organized, 273 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.759 and lo and behold, I ran across footprint finds and 274 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.639 sightings and some other things, all from the Welches and 275 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.480 lo Low Pass area, which is pretty much ground zero 276 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:25.639 for your sighting. So yeah, that the history has been 277 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:28.159 there for a long time and obviously still continues to 278 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:29.919 this day. Well maybe not this day, but you know 279 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.080 last week, which is pretty much this day, I think, 280 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.639 sir to say. Yeah, So I was blown away when 281 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.320 you said that, when you said the location, because you 282 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:40.559 don't know where I live. You don't know anything about 283 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:42.639 like the history of this area because you guys live 284 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:46.240 in California. So when you said that, I was thrilled. 285 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.759 And of course we went out there on Sunday with 286 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.639 you as well. But now I've heard the story, I've 287 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:54.399 been to the siding location with you, I've done the investigation, 288 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:56.240 I've done all sorts of stuff up there. But Bobo, 289 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.840 I don't think has heard it from your lips. So 290 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:02.200 why don't you tell the audience and Bobo what transpired 291 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:02.639 that day? 292 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.440 Okay, that sounds great. Yeah, well, we had driven up Wednesday. 293 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:10.759 We had actually gone to the NABC and had showed 294 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:12.960 them one of the casts that we took, which we 295 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:17.480 also showed you at the squatch Best. So Thursday, we thought, 296 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:19.120 we got here day early, we're going to do a 297 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.480 little squatching, and we originally were going to go up 298 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.360 to Mount Saint Helen's and we're going to try to 299 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.960 just find a spot. But it was two feet plus 300 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.480 the snow. Everywhere you went. You couldn't hardly get off 301 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.720 the road because of the snow plows, and it was 302 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:36.840 raining the whole time, and so Todd said, why don't 303 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.159 we head down? And I had a migraine that day too, 304 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.879 and I wasn't feeling that good. So that's funny how 305 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:46.360 things turn out like that. But anyway, Todd goes, hey, 306 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.000 I noticed that the weather's breaking in Oregon around Mount 307 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.120 Hood area, So why don't we just go down there? 308 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.879 And we don't know the area, but we thought, well, 309 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:57.519 let's just go up the highway there and just take 310 00:13:57.559 --> 00:13:59.919 a road and see what happened. So we went up 311 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.519 further at first, but there was just way too much 312 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:06.240 ice and snow, so we turned back and ended up 313 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.360 in the area that you mentioned, and we noticed there 314 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:12.759 was a place that you could park and there was 315 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.759 a lock gate, and so we saw the road and 316 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:17.559 we said, hey, let's just walk up this road. So 317 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:21.080 we started walking up and we were doing some tree knocks. 318 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.480 We didn't do any calls or anything. Well, we heard 319 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.639 a knock. Carrie and Todd myself heard one knock, and 320 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.360 then we got up i'd say a half mile or so, 321 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.879 and we had left the car probably around two o'clock, 322 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:38.320 and so we were up that road about a half 323 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:42.080 mile or so, and all of a sudden, Carrie I 324 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:44.879 was up in front of Carry. Carrie was in the middle, 325 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:47.519 and Todd was down below. And we're up that road 326 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:51.039 and there's a bend up there just ahead, and Carry goes, 327 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:53.279 I just heard a tree knock, and both me and 328 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:55.279 Todd go we didn't hear it. And then all of 329 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:59.399 a sudden, he looked over to his left at the 330 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:02.519 time he goes, do you guys see that? And I 331 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:06.039 was just like looking around, and all the sudden I 332 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:11.240 saw something just move upright, saw its arm swinging. It's 333 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:14.159 kind of deep as far as brush there with the 334 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:18.159 trees with the different forage down there, and there was 335 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.960 snow on the ground too, But that thing moved faster, 336 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.440 and I've seen anything move. And I saw its head, 337 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.840 I saw its arms swaying. It didn't look at me, 338 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.600 but Carrie said it actually was standing by a tree 339 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.200 and they made eye contact and then it just took off, 340 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:38.320 and so carry goes, did you see that? And I 341 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:42.200 went and I hesitated because I was trying to just 342 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:44.919 process in my mind what I was seeing, because I 343 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.120 was like, oh, my goodness, I am seeing a sasquatch. 344 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.519 And then I said, yes, I saw it. And Todd 345 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:54.200 was a little bummed because he was a little lower, 346 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.480 so he didn't have quite as good view where he 347 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.840 was because that thing just moves so quick between the trees, 348 00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:03.279 and then it got lost because of all the different 349 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:06.879 other foliage from some evergreen trees in the area. And 350 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:11.279 so I saw it probably only it seemed like a 351 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:14.080 decent amount of time, but it was probably only about 352 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.840 two seconds. And it was tall, because I thought it 353 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:21.000 was shorter till you were standing out there on Sunday. 354 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.639 And then I realized how much bigger it was, so 355 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.639 I'd say it had to be in the seven and 356 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.720 a half to eight foot range based on being there 357 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.080 that second time on Sunday. 358 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.200 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and 359 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:43.600 Bobo will be right back after these messages. So three 360 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:46.080 to six months doesn't seem like a long time right 361 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.159 in bigfoot Land. It's not very long because we've been 362 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.240 looking for sasquatches for decades and decades and decades. 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