WEBVTT 1 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:57.920 Okay, it's search, weren't and we're alive. Good afternoon. So 2 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:04.359 the tie to live this episode as shadows, and we'll 3 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:08.359 explain what that means. So you can listen to us 4 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:14.439 on a kg R a radio rumble LinkedIn Facebook, iHeart 5 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:19.280 and Spotify. Okay, let me just tell you who we've 6 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.239 got so far. We've got Detective Jake Jacobs from Philadelphia 7 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:24.640 on the side and now to involved Juny and Jake, 8 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:29.120 how you making out? And then we have our Tennessee's correspondent, 9 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.680 veteran NCIA special agent Greig Islands. So how's the weather 10 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.599 treating you guys? Okay, so far? 11 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.319 No, Aaron starting to cool off down here. 12 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:41.799 Well that's good. 13 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:43.400 You'll get that hurricane coming though. 14 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:44.680 Yeah. 15 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:45.120 Bad. 16 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:51.519 Okay, So we've got basically we have three special guests today. 17 00:01:51.560 --> 00:02:00.840 We've got best selling author Jen Niza. We've got Jennifer Infinity, 18 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:04.560 the wife of Serge Infinity, wants to give us a 19 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:09.520 little update quick relative to the status of that travesty 20 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:14.560 illegal travesty. And then we've got uh uh, the CEO, 21 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:20.840 Glenn Fogerty, and I'm sure he'll enlighten us on in 22 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:27.400 some of some technology. So we're going from demonic to technology, 23 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:32.719 which is one and the same nowadays. Right, So I'll 24 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:38.039 tell you, well, let's let's bring Jen up first. Jen, Nissa, Jen, 25 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:38.719 how you doing. 26 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:44.520 Hey, good to see you, Good to be back with you. Guys, Hey, Jake, Hey, Greg, Hey. 27 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:52.159 Hey, I'd like to you know, I mentioned shadows before, 28 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:58.520 but I wanted to kind of set this ups. It 29 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:02.800 pertains to this out of the shadows and ex psychic 30 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:06.919 saves g O re findes Jesus. But to set that up, 31 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:11.800 I want people to kind of understand, hang on a 32 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:18.800 second life, I can find it. Let's see. Oh so 33 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.240 if we can run those things, these things, these two 34 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:26.319 things give people an idea. You've been on before, and 35 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:29.599 you've been fantastic, and you've enlightened us quite a bit. 36 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:32.960 But I want for the people that haven't had an 37 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:35.560 opportunity to see yet. I just wanted to run these 38 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:36.800 two things quick. Okay. 39 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:38.759 Yeah. 40 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:44.120 I grow up here on Long Island culturally Catholic Italian family, 41 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.240 an aunt who was a psychic medium. She told me 42 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:53.960 that God sent me back here to be a psychic medium. 43 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.879 When I was twelve, I started having premonitions. I didn't 44 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:03.360 understand what it meant. At thirteen, my mom had a 45 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:06.759 terrort card reader come into our home and she let 46 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:11.879 my sister and I participate in these readings. I remember 47 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:17.120 the woman telling me things that happened. I was so intrigued. 48 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:19.040 I was captivated. 49 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.639 I wondered, how did she know this? How did these 50 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:26.600 cards know this? And that I truly believed was when 51 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:31.600 I walked through the door of demons, I started going 52 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:36.000 down a rabbit hole of destruction. I went to the 53 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.240 psychic medium to find out what was going on, and 54 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:44.199 she told me I had the gift of mediumship and 55 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.839 I needed to use it to help people. The New 56 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:50.600 Age will tell you that divination is a gift. They 57 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.199 tell you it's a gift from God. I didn't know 58 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:55.639 much about Jesus. I didn't have faith in Jesus. I 59 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:59.959 had this distant idea of him because it was supernatural. 60 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:04.040 It just maybe had something to do with God. That's 61 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:09.160 what I was taught. The reading started to flow. I 62 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.720 was professionally reading. I was a single mom. I had 63 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.040 a lot of problems in my life. I raised my 64 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:19.279 daughter in a house of demons. My daughter became afflicted 65 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:20.240 by those demons. 66 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:21.639 My baby was oppressed. 67 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:27.000 I meet somebody who later would become my husband. Him 68 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:32.319 and I together legit train wreck, total train wreck with 69 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.519 a child that I was raising in the New Age 70 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:38.480 with the demonic oppression, a train wreck of a marriage 71 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.519 so many times that we almost got divorced. My husband 72 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:46.240 and I trouble after trouble after trouble. My spirit knew, 73 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:50.120 my soul knew that only Jesus could help me, only 74 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:54.120 Jesus could be there for me. But I didn't understand 75 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:56.560 what was happening. What did that whole thing mean? What 76 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:58.240 is this Jesus experience? 77 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:20.199 You know, on previous occasions of you watching us on 78 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:23.759 a regular basis, you've seen in the Jenas introduced us 79 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:29.120 to the Wei chipboard. What a disaster that is at 80 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:33.439 Tarot cards, the New Age crystals. 81 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:33.720 And. 82 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:38.000 A variety of other things. But I wanted to run 83 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.000 this other one just quick. 84 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:46.639 Let's pretend I'm in the confessional of an MTV reality 85 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.279 show right now. I'm a former psychic medium, and I 86 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:54.759 want to share some things with you that I went 87 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.199 through as a psychic medium. And the reason I'm doing 88 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:03.439 that is so that you can see how deceptive the 89 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:10.279 demonic practice of psychic communication is and the whole spiritual thing. 90 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.680 When I was in the New Age, every single thing 91 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.319 was a sign. Oh I opened my phone and it's 92 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:21.120 eleven eleven. I'm talking about something, and then somebody sneezes 93 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:25.560 or coughs or the lights went off. Right at that moment, 94 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:29.040 I just lost somebody. And the license plate in front 95 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:34.879 of me is literally their birthday, or a butterfly flew 96 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:38.240 right by me. So not only did I think every 97 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.360 single thing was a sign, and if you are a 98 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:45.079 former New Ager psychic medium what have you, you probably 99 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:50.120 can understand that. But then I had to divine the meaning. 100 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:55.439 Can't mean nothing, so there had to be an interpretation. 101 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:56.319 For the sign. 102 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:01.560 Mom is with you, my babies are with me. Something 103 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:02.759 good's about to happen. 104 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:03.480 I don't know. 105 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:08.240 This is all based on nothing. I shouldn't say nothing. 106 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:15.360 It's based on demonic lies and deception, spirituality, divination, all 107 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.920 very subjective and a complete rejection of our creator. I'm 108 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.800 so thankful that I'm saved now because I stand on 109 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.160 absolute truth. Oh yes, there's absolute objective truth. 110 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:28.120 It's the Bible. 111 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.120 There are actually answers to all the questions that I 112 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.840 had before coming to Christ. You can call me a 113 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.200 Bible thumper, a Jesus freak, whatever you want to call me, 114 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.360 but I can tell you this, I wanted nothing to 115 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.679 do with Jesus. He rescued me out of the pit. 116 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:50.519 I wanted nothing to do with a new worldview, a 117 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.960 new philosophy, a whole change in my life. But God, 118 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:59.840 so please don't give up hope on your loved ones 119 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:04.080 who are still dabbling in the New Age and the occult. 120 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.399 Keep praying for them. God bless you. 121 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:08.720 Boy. 122 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.720 Let's go on like the Barbara Walters of Rumble over here. 123 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:14.480 I'm in tears. 124 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:21.080 I mean, those are two perfect clips though, and thank 125 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:26.159 god we found them. Incidentally, if you you know, search 126 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.720 a gen Niza on a TikTok or Instagram, she's got 127 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:34.679 quite the following. Of course, she's a you're a best 128 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:39.279 selling author, so and that leads us to this. So 129 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:44.200 if you paid attention to those two clips, you realize, 130 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:46.919 and we've put out this this a couple of times. 131 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:52.080 This is coming out of the shadows and ex psychic 132 00:09:52.799 --> 00:10:00.039 finds Jesus and outstandingly you can have an opportunity to 133 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.840 be a part of that. It's through Angel Studios, right. 134 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:06.879 No yet, no, No, it's a short film that will 135 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:10.399 be a teaser to bring two angels studios, so for 136 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:12.320 the foundation of a feature film. 137 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:16.360 Okay, Yeah, I was just kind of Billy, you beat 138 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.240 me to it. This is the gift sent go for 139 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.360 out of the Shadows. And if you get to I 140 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.799 think if you just search a gift send go Shadows, 141 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.960 you're going to get that. So, I mean, what a 142 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:34.960 unique thing to be a part of. 143 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.399 Yeah, you know, God put us on my heart John 144 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:41.919 two years ago, and as the Lord would have it, 145 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.759 everything is always going to be in his timing and 146 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:48.279 according to his will and plan. And over the course 147 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.799 of the two years, after having meetings and bringing this 148 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.679 immediately to a dear friend and brother in Christ, Billy Hallowell, 149 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.799 CBN investigator, and I do a lot with Billy, and 150 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.440 I ran this by him. We become very dear friends 151 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.960 and he was on board from minute one and over. 152 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:07.960 The course of two years, through. 153 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.879 Prayer and meetings and of course all other projects. I'm 154 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:14.919 almost done with my third book now and which this 155 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:20.759 is based on. Really we have you know, just kind 156 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:23.240 of been hanging on waiting for the Lord to do something, 157 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:27.879 and then God swung the door wide open and put 158 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.320 everybody that he wanted to be a part of this project. 159 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.919 For the most part, almost everybody's already established, the script 160 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.120 got written and everything. You know, when God opens that door, 161 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:43.399 things start moving and the team is great. 162 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:44.919 We're super excited. 163 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:47.720 And for me, it makes so much sense now because 164 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.360 the Lord has put me on all. 165 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:50.440 These different platforms. 166 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:58.039 TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, books, cinema is the next platform to 167 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.960 step into, especially John, as you know, in a culture 168 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:07.519 where the occult with a New Age is mainstream, mainstream, 169 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:12.559 normative and desensitizing people on a daily basis, and that's 170 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.960 not going to stop. So we need to step in 171 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:22.039 and expose the truth about psychic mediumship, tarot, psychic communication, 172 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:22.799 all of it. 173 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:28.679 Yeah. I just had a conversation with somebody about crystals 174 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:38.600 and man, that's a disaster waiting to have whatever. Indeed, 175 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.679 you know, oh my god. But if you if you've 176 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.200 seen general with us before, you know, like I said, 177 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:49.399 she went through the Ouiji board. She also went through 178 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:55.480 the tarot cards and then swifties right Taylor swift Oh. 179 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:58.759 God re emerging to John. I just put out a 180 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.759 video recently and I intend to do a full length 181 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:06.039 one on my YouTube channel about Taylor because she is 182 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:11.639 she has her new album coming out in they're saying 183 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:14.320 it may be released in October, and this is just 184 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:15.879 and she hasn't stopped. 185 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:17.200 Unfortunately. 186 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.360 We need to continue to pray for her, pray for 187 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.039 her salvation. I always make that clear in making any 188 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:25.399 video about this. But as Christians especially, you need to 189 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.200 know what you're stepping into, because we're not just saying 190 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.320 and I'm not just saying, hey, don't listen to secular music. 191 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:32.519 That's not the point. 192 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:35.080 The point is when you get involved with music that 193 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:40.480 is blatantly pushing and promoting witchcraft and new age concepts 194 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:44.720 and ideologies right and directed. Really, if you think about it, 195 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:49.440 her audience for the children now there are yeah, you know. 196 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:53.600 The emphasis is almost always, at least in my view, 197 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:58.960 the children. They're trying to influence, you know, young minds. 198 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:02.879 Yeah, well to raise up an army, you know, continue 199 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:05.960 to multiply his army and keep people away from Christ. 200 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:12.440 Yeah. So you know, you have an opportunity as an 201 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:18.799 audience member to be a part of something significant that 202 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:24.639 is obviously going to you know, have an impact on people. 203 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.279 I mean, you know, I don't know how many people. 204 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.639 I think we've talked about this before. In Western New 205 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.840 York right next to uh Lake Erie, on the shores 206 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:38.519 of Lake aria Erie, it's a place called lily Dale 207 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:45.960 and it's nothing but a village full of psychics. And 208 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.639 when you drive through there, the back of the air 209 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:52.120 on the back of your neck stands up. You know, wow, 210 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:54.720 how it's going on in here? 211 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.080 Well, you know how common is common? It is joined 212 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.000 even in the regular My church actually happens to be 213 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.240 right in the middle. On on the left is a psychic, 214 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.000 a professional psychic with a store front. And to the 215 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.200 right of my church is a metaphysical shop with crystals, 216 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.919 with the tarot, with everything the stage uh selling And 217 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.480 I mean this is there's nothing cd looking about these businesses. 218 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.200 They look alluring, in fact, you know, inviting to come 219 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.799 on in. And I think it's so interesting how my 220 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:29.840 my excellent church is right there in the middle the 221 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:31.840 ultimate choice between God and the devil? 222 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.279 Right? Which dore? 223 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:36.840 Yeah, right? Right? 224 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:39.799 Which do. 225 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:43.399 You know? 226 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:47.519 I still don't understand. I mean, maybe you guys can 227 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:53.720 help me out here. I don't understand the the attraction 228 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:55.960 with that. I mean, you want to get an easy 229 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:03.039 answer that you tend to want to have to begin with. 230 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.320 And it's as opposed to just reading something that we've 231 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:14.360 all had for years, for thousands of years, which would 232 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:18.840 you know, answer your questions, yeah, and give you a direction. 233 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.039 But I guess it's so much easier to drop in 234 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:27.120 to a drop into a psychic and just ask right, well, 235 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:28.480 there's no reading involved. 236 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.240 Yeah, it's supernatural, which is intriguing and I think to 237 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:38.919 most people honestly, and it's the idea of fulfilling something 238 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.320 that you are missing, but in the way of a lie. 239 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:45.960 So if you are missing your loved one and you 240 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:51.240 believe the medium is communicating with your deceased, departed loved one, 241 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.960 the desire to continue a connection of course. 242 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:00.879 But yeah, I remember though we when we had you 243 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:06.319 on before, we briefly delved into the statement the dead. 244 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.720 Know nothing, that's correct, that's right, that's right. 245 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:12.759 So you're not talking to them. 246 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:13.000 That's right. 247 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.079 That's right. You're walking to demons pretending to be them. 248 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:20.680 But imagine you're walking around and you're deceived and now 249 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:25.319 you're just you're grieving. And the interesting thing, guys about 250 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.960 if you think about it, about any sort of spirituality, 251 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:33.079 it's so subjective, you are not adhering to or even 252 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:37.160 caring about the authority, which is God. You can still 253 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.160 make the rules. Somebody else can make the rules. You 254 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.799 can go here, you can go there. This could be possible. 255 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.839 You could have anything you want. You can control things. 256 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:51.599 It's power, it's control manifesting all of these ideas. But 257 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:55.640 these are the ideas of the devil, right, do you? 258 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:01.839 I know there's a isn't there a I don't want 259 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:07.920 to say famous. I mean, there is a medium on 260 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.839 Long Island, right that is very well known. 261 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.240 What's her name, Teresa Computo. 262 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:20.319 They had her, she does. I remember when she was 263 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:25.039 first going into the restaurant circuit. We had. We've read 264 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:27.200 each other back when I was a medium as well. 265 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.680 We all were in the same circles, as well as 266 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:35.000 another medium, Kim Russo, the Happy medium who went on 267 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.920 to California. I think she still lives here on Long 268 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.680 Island because unfortunately I found out she was even doing 269 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:42.720 some readings at a pizza. 270 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:43.039 Place that I like. 271 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.079 That's all I want to say. I'm happy about that. 272 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:51.200 I can promote that. But yeah, Long Island, we we 273 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:55.160 have a lot of mediums here, and of course like 274 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:56.279 you mentioned, it's kind of interesting. 275 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:57.880 Then you have like these parts of town. 276 00:18:57.960 --> 00:18:59.680 You know, if you go into Queens Manhattan, I mean, 277 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.440 you're gonna have a palm reader every half a block, 278 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:07.200 five dollars, ten dollars, I'll read your palm. And that's 279 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.160 where I think there's an extra layer of deception, because 280 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.000 some people are going to look at them and say, oh, 281 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:16.480 those are Charlatans, those are hucksters. You don't buy into that, 282 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:19.240 do you. It's ridiculous. Well, that's just another deception of 283 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:22.519 the evil one. Are there Charlatans and hucksters? Sure of 284 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.839 course there are. But it doesn't make the reality of 285 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.319 it any less real, right, it doesn't make it any 286 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.640 less demonic. The actual practice. God has been talking about 287 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:34.200 it for ages. This is in the Bible, from the 288 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.079 beginning of his word to the end of his word. 289 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:43.200 Yeah, so, Jake, we won't give his location away because 290 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:47.759 he's under the gun, but by a Zorro's district attorney. 291 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:53.160 But Jake, do you have do you see them in 292 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:55.079 your area? 293 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.039 No, not at all, thank goodness. 294 00:19:58.079 --> 00:19:58.359 You know. 295 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:04.079 Talk about we have a Charlottan in Philadelphia acting as 296 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:12.160 a Gasha Turney. But It's funny when uh yeah, when 297 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.079 Jen talks about and you talk about trying to get 298 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.039 you the children, you know, when I was coming up, 299 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.200 and how when you talk about themes and I mentioned 300 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.599 that Charlatan da, it's the opposite of what the black 301 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.839 community used to be when I was coming up. You know, 302 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.319 all we had, I mean it was at nauseum. To 303 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.119 be quite honest with you, we were pretty much in 304 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:39.640 church seven days a week and you may have had 305 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.440 a break, but in order for you to play basketball, 306 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.880 you had to go to school like Fible study during 307 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.400 the week and things of that nature. You know, So 308 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:52.759 these these this stuff still resonates with me. I mean, 309 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:54.559 you could say, yes, they know we are Christians by 310 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.359 all love or we all you know, all those things 311 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:01.880 that you learned from the there was just want to 312 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:04.720 go on and on. Now you don't have that in 313 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.400 the child's lives. You have what you're talking about. You 314 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.119 have a whole. Whether you talked about a swift ye 315 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:15.359 or someone else, you have this whole different. I don't 316 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:16.680 know what you want to call it. You can probably 317 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.799 give it a better word than I. It's it's an 318 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:27.000 environment that's it's double worshiping almost, and your power brokers 319 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.200 seem to be pushing that. That's why you have someone 320 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:33.160 who is as influential if you want to use that 321 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:36.799 word with Taylor Swift to push that nonsense. But I 322 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:38.759 don't have them out here, John, Thank goodness again. 323 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:45.359 So, uh, Greg is joining us from what you've referred 324 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:49.119 to that as rural Greg rural Tennessee. Yes, okay, So 325 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:51.240 how far do you think you have to go to 326 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:52.079 see a medium? 327 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:58.519 Well, I'm Battle Belt at Tennessee, so there's not many. 328 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:02.480 There are a few, but there's not many down here. 329 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:09.160 I mean, I'm people should realize. I mean, do you, Jen, 330 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:13.240 do you really think that those that are mediums or 331 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:19.599 psychics today they know that's not correct? 332 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:19.839 Right? 333 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:21.119 No? 334 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:24.920 Oh god, they're. 335 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:26.880 Truly deceived they believe that. 336 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:31.960 Yeah, yeah, oh my god, I did. Yeah, I truly 337 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:34.200 I was. I was all in one hundred percent. So 338 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:37.920 imagine if you're having those experiences in your life and 339 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.200 you don't have a compass, you don't have the Lord Jesus. 340 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:43.440 Okay, I'm talking specifically about those people. 341 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:43.680 Right. 342 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:46.960 Of course, you can't be a Christian psychic, even though 343 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:50.680 they try. Trust me on TikTok and everywhere else. But 344 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:54.160 you don't have Jesus. You have these things happening. You 345 00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:56.440 know things you don't know how you know them. You're 346 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.000 getting accurate information about people you don't have. You have 347 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:01.839 these tools of divista. I didn't use the Luigi board. 348 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.240 Of course we spoke about it, but I persantly say, 349 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:11.079 you're using Luigi board, tarot cards, oh gosh, so many pendulums, whatever. 350 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.440 It may be the tool of divination, and you're getting 351 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:18.519 these responses, and it's it's something to explain the experience 352 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.480 to you, something that is so much bigger than yourself 353 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:23.680 because it's supernatural. 354 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:26.640 So yeah, I don't know. 355 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.400 I mean, you know, if I if I'm gonna talk 356 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.359 to somebody and I Google them, I can get enough 357 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.839 information to make them think, right, can't. 358 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:38.200 But what about when you didn't have Google? 359 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:43.960 Wow, that's true, but you still take a little crumb 360 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:50.359 and you run with it, right, I mean? No, Okay, now. 361 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:52.279 Wait, listen, I'm gonna wait to be fair. What you're 362 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:55.599 talking about is called cold reading, and there are people 363 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.680 that do that. So those people are going to fit 364 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.759 right in the camp or the bucket with the Charlatan's 365 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.519 and the hucksters. Cold reading is doing exactly that. You know, 366 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.160 they're looking for things a tattoo that might say mom 367 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:10.920 with a date or right, a wedding ring or not 368 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.359 a wedding ring, or maybe like throw something out there 369 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:15.200 and see what that person's face does. 370 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:17.519 Because often you know, if. 371 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.200 You're so bleeding into the practice of it. So let's 372 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:25.519 say you said to me you recently had a loss, 373 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.039 and then now I start hysterically crying. Now you just 374 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.720 have to follow some cues and clues for that one, right. 375 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:34.039 So, uh yeah, absolutely that happens. 376 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:38.920 But I'm what the danger is is the you should 377 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:40.960 never be involved with any psychic medium. I don't care 378 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.440 whether they're pretending or not. Don't have anything to do 379 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.039 with it. God condemns it. And those people are entering 380 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:51.200 into divination anyway and invoking demons anyway, and you are 381 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:54.519 by participating in it. Okay, So that's all you have 382 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.559 to understand that you don't know whether that person's a 383 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:59.079 fake or not. But if you're going to go because 384 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:02.279 the Lord says do not practice or consult with people 385 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:05.039 who do, so now you're stepping into the nation, right. 386 00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:08.880 But I'm doing the real psychic mediums, the real like 387 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.920 I was a real psychic medium who truly in our 388 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.240 heart wanted to help people. And I was told by 389 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.240 the New Age community that I was, and that because 390 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:23.079 this was a gift, I had a responsibility to help. 391 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.480 You know, your fellow man, if you will, to bring 392 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.680 messages from their deceased loved ones, cooling God to help 393 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:35.799 with healing and grief. So all the things that sound good, right, 394 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.119 John Satan ask grades as an angel of light and 395 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.839 it's no wonder that y. Yeah, So it's going to 396 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:50.359 seem healing and innocuous and really like your solution. The problem, guys, 397 00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:53.960 is that when we see cartotifications of the Devil and 398 00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.680 we see him being portrayed in these shows like Lucifer, 399 00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.920 is this handsome guy that you may even find yourself having, 400 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.640 I don't know, crushing on or or having compassion for 401 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.799