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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I'd like to
welcome back to the show returning champion Yogyaj. How you doing,
Yo Graj? Thank you, Thank you so much for being here.
My friend. It's this is your third time on the show,
and every time you come in, the energy in the
room lifts. It's a beautiful energy, and we have such
beautiful conversations, so I appreciate you coming back. My first
question to you is what do you see happening right
now on Earth that other people are not getting or
don't understand.
Speaker 2: You say, according to my thinking, if you may call it,
or my observation, the Earth is going through a transition period,
and of course it has all to do with the
balancing of the dharma.
Speaker 1: Can you stay what dharma is for people?
Speaker 2: Dharma is something which you hold on to. It comes
from the word dharna. You focus in concentration and hold
on to it. And that which is your ideology is
called your swadharma. That which you believe in that which
you are centered in, that which is your ish today
means your central God who you worship, or a central
idol who you worship or principle, that would be your therma.
H Of course, thehrma is also connected with the gunna.
The gunas are satwa raja and gunna s gunna. So
guna therma vivajet. It means according to your gunnas, your
therma is determined, your ideology is determined. Whether you are
a tamasic, lazy and a dull person, your therma would be,
you know, eating a nice steak, enjoying good food, sleeping
long hours into the day. It's a lazy tharmasic life
connected with the neutrons. Then the other therma is very active.
It's connected with protons. The ego therma rajasik. Rajasik therma
connected with ego and desire. You want to achieve something.
You're in achiever, so your life is very active. Your
married life is good, you have two to three wives,
you have twelve children, you're still able to maintain them
and you're still going on. That's a rajaesik therma that
is activity. The first derma was initia. This is in
asia makes you sluggish. That is the tharmacic therma. Then
the rajasik derma which is activity, and then this luminosity,
the electron luminosity, the sato therma. These people are constantly dieting,
eating good food or satwik food miss pure food, and
meditating long hours, trying to serve people to do. So,
these are the three thermas I divide into three different portions,
the thamask, the rajasik and the the Sathwick.
Speaker 1: And this is determined before we ever incarnate.
Speaker 2: Yes, because you come with your your latent impressions, impressions
which are sound scars, latent desires. If it determines whether
you are more thoumasic desires of inertia, rajasik desires of activity,
or luminosity desires of meditation. Right, so if you come
with more Sathwick desires, you will be meditating all the time.
You will be doing Suthwick things, having a pure diet,
vegetarian diet. So this is to do with the luminosity.
And in all this the central theme is transition to transit.
The transition of man is from man the brute to
man the man to man the god. This is what
yoga is all about transmission and evolution so as.
Speaker 1: But what you're saying is like, well, if you're this
this version, you are vegetarian, things like that. But that's
something that you can transition to throughout your life. You
can come in in one energy and then discover or
evolve to another energy.
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the point.
Speaker 2: Because your body is anychius of willing mass of energies,
of electron protons and neutrons. Sure, and by the will
of the divine soul within you, the divine being that
you are, you can change the arrangement of the atoms
in your body.
Speaker 1: So go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: By the apt concentration and you get into some you
concentrate and become one with the object. Subject and object
become one and your goal is achieved, and these atoms
they move to subtler regions.
Speaker 1: How does this all of the things that you just
spoke about, how does that affect what we're going through
on the planet right now? And what are people not seeing?
Because a lot of people see a chaotic time. But
I keep saying to people, well, I was growing up
in the seventies. There was a lot of chaotic times
in the seventies, a lot of chaotic times in the sixties.
You know, then there was a war in the World
War two. So there's always been chaotic times in recent history.
This is just another version. But I think we're more
heightened about it because of technology and being able to
see everything and hear everything, and everyone's got an opinion,
so it feels a little bit more heightened than it is.
What's your opinion of that.
Speaker 2: My opinion is that way we stand today in the
present condition forget about the past and observing the present
as it is. There's a transition taking place, as we
can see. And this transition is a result of the
transaction I mean amongst two nations or two countries, and
here a lot of energies are being moved. You see
a lot of blockages to human evolution. Human evolution. The
human being as a world disciple is a collective consciousness,
and this human being as a world disciple has to
decide its own fate and destiny. If this world disciple,
the collective consciousness of the world has got more ego,
which is Soathwick, rather than which is Rajesic. If the
collective consciousness of humanity is tending more towards illuminosity rather
than activity, or tending more towards the Rajesic desire of
activity than the tamorgun inertia. Then that majority of gunners,
the majority of atoms and the subatomic particles, if they
are the luminosity in the minds of humanity, then that
humanity will struggle for luminosity and fight the activities which
are of a lower desire, lower energy, lower desire. So
the three gunas Raja, Tama and Satwa. It is the
balancing of these three gunas which has to happen. And
once you balance the gunas the rajah, Tama and Satwa,
that is called the establishing of the dharma. Because dharma
is composed of the three gunners. The gunnos make your
therma and thehrma becomes your karma.
Speaker 1: Explain that what do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: So the three gunas of luminosity, activity, and inertia. Every
human being in the form of electron, proton, and neutrons.
When the human being through past evolution has aggregated more
of the luminosity of sathwagun that is Southwik electrons than
it has protons and neutrons than this Southwick electronic person
who's tending towards awareness, tending towards finding his own nature,
that person whose atoms his whole being, and he is
gravitating towards the great consciousness. He will try to push
his way past those people who are involved in materialism
and the fun of the earth and marriage and getting
into maya and duality. They will try to bypass that
obstacle and go into the singularity. The duality is rajasik.
The singularity is pure, it is Sathwick. That's why the
Lord God is I consider to be the naked Singularity.
Speaker 1: Can you explain what the singularity is for people who
don't know what that is?
Speaker 2: And he is further called the great Unknown. So when
you get to singularity, singularity is a very deep subject.
It means the one they alone. In this world, we
have what is called duality, and we need duality for
karma to operate so that we can live our daily
life action and reaction, life and death, joy and sorrow,
you know, hatred and love. So we are oscillating in
our emotional pendulum. All human beings are caught by the
pendulum of duality, hate and love, light and dark. That's
why the mind can never be steady. It cannot be
focused because it is always oscillating between fine emotions of
love and fine emotions of hate. So this duality of
opposites teach me to override. Take me with THEE or
spirit free, aren't to the other side. So I pray
to the spirit free, which is this singularity. Take me
with THEE to spirit free onto the other side. So
the whole creation and its creator is an oscillation between
the singularity, who we call God or the reality, and
between duality that is the worldly life of day to
day activities. Some sar as we call the worldly life
the singularity, you see, only happens if the whole world
is crunched. I'll tell you the meaning. Into a small marble,
it is reverting back to its state of non being,
the Earth, the planet, the planet. If the size of
a marble, the intensity will be very dense, and because
of the intensity the weight of this, it will break
the space time continuum and go into the eternal non being.
Speaker 1: So the.
Speaker 2: Singularity is such an intense density which has become so
intense that it is faster than light. It has broken
the light barrier, and it has surpassed the space time continuum,
and it goes into the state of singularity. It is
such an intense state of nothingness whilst withstand no duality,
there will be only one, the naked singularity. That is
the question, and it's very difficult to explain it in
more detail, sure in a short possible time. But this
is the pure state of awareness and the state of matter.
The state of awareness is gravity. So the whole of
creation is a play between Mars and gravity. Yeah, mass
and gravity. Mass pulls gravity into his own selfish use.
It sort of brings down gravity from its state, and
gravity in turn organizes mass, and mass disorganizes gravity. And
as the gravity increases slowly and slowly it becomes transforming
the grosser matter and energy into the subtler light. Light
is the subtlest form of energy. It's still in duality.
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Speaker 2: When the event horizon of the sake, the gurutu occurs
and the sub Guru, he pushes the last atom of
the photon out of existence, gravity pushes matter out of existence.
This is the cusp between divine consciousness of God and
the divine mind of the goddess mind is just the
subtlest form of matter. And the subtlest matter they found
is the photon. What gravity or the guruto does, what
the sud guru does, He transforms the material disciple into
the pure consciousness of God. I will tell you, I
will tell you a definition which I've made. So this
event horizon pushes the last particle of matter into consciousness.
But because it pushes the matter into consciousness, the consciousness's
mass is in finite. If we were theoretically to say
one qubic centimeter of nothingness the singularity and the weight
of the whole universe, or the weight of the whole
let us say, for understanding sake, the weight of the
whole galaxy and the weight of one cubic centimeter of
nothingness or singularity. That singularity will outweigh the weight of
the whole galaxy. And that singularity in the center of
every galaxy is the solitary singularity.
Speaker 1: Is that the black hole that they're starting to discover,
that there's a giant black hole INSI each but the.
Speaker 2: Person who transforms they all matter into consciousness matters. The
materials at managing into consciousness is the event horizon which
is the sid Guru. It takes you to such a
height it makes your mind and matters so pure that
it is pushed into consciousness.
Speaker 1: But is this with the guru. When they do that,
they're basically reawakening the power that the individual who has
within themselves to do it. In other words, they're guiding
them through the process and their energy is how. It's
kind of like a parent, you know, holding a child
walking into the ocean and making sure.
Speaker 2: That yes, yes, pushing him in.
Speaker 1: That's but he's but the child's walking, it's up. We're there,
just the kind of gut.
Speaker 2: But in reality, as far as the child a is
a body and has a mind and has patterns of emotions,
sure the sub gurul is different. But the awareness in
the child, that is the soul, is the same as
the soul of the suth Guru is the athma of
the child. That means the suth Guru's larger self is
helping his own smaller self to merge into the infinite.
We know not what.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you say that because in a lot
of a lot of Westerners, specifically, they associate the guru
as a godlike figure or as the end all be all,
but I've always and this is just my opinion. And
what we do with next level soul is that a teacher,
a guru, a swami, a guide, they're all served the same.
They all serve the same purpose, which is to re
to make you remember as the student, the power you
have within yourself. As opposed to saying I am the way,
it's like no, no, It's like Christ said, everything I
can do, you can do and more. Yes, the Kingdom
of Heaven is within you. Yes, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: What I say. The same thing. Yeah, everything that I
can do, you can do, But not until you become
my state.
Speaker 1: Right, you have to get to the teacher.
Speaker 2: Cannot, the teacher will keeps. The teacher informs, and the
master transforms for the sad. For the master, the human
soul to transform, it should have reached the state of
no return. There's the state of nivik Samadhi, the state
of event horizon. It should have no personality, no mind,
and only consciousness. And in that state of no consciousness
he can transformed matter into consciousness, mind into consciousness. Where
light is pushed out of its ultimate creation into enlightened light, divine, wild,
and divine consciousness. All the teachers and this thing are
teaching with a divine mind. But the sad Gurul being
the same one of them, he has crossed the divine
mind state and is divine consciousness.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So therefore I have said a statement. If any mind
mind is the student or the aspirant to God, If
any mind is attuned to an undifferentiated consciousness, then that
mind shall gravitate itself out of light mind experience and
that consciousness of the sud Guru, to the extent of
its attunement with that consciousness. If any mind is attuned
to an undifferentiated consciousness, then that mind shall become that
consciousness to the degree of its attunement with that consciousness.
Now that consciousness is gravity. He has a field he
will pull, pulling the innermost core of the student. And
then the student will be pulled by gravitas. By his meditation,
his chanting, his praise, he will purify his mind with
the purification of the degree of his mind, till the
mind becomes no mind. When the mind becomes no mind,
all that mass is translated is translated into consciousness. So
gravity is transformed mass into consciousness. That is the whole
prey of creation.
Speaker 1: And this is a scientific question, but I'm just curious
to see if you in your experience of an answer
for it. The concept of gravity has been fascinating to me.
It is a force, one of the forces like magnetism
and so on in the universe, and it formed a
bunch of rock into what we have here on Earth today.
What is it? Where does it come from?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What is the ability of gravity? Because it's there, it's here,
we feel it, we're experiencing it as we speak. But
what's the origin on a cosmic level of gravity? And
it's just gravity fling around? Or is it charged?
Speaker 2: To see? Gravity is not a thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to understand.
Speaker 2: Gravity is described in a material sense. It is a movement.
It's energy, it's more subtler than energy. It's a movement
off you can say awareness, a movement. Aveness doesn't move,
but a movement of awareness, which gives every single object
in creation its weight. All mass is given its weight
by gravitas. Without gravity, there is no way even if
if a gravity, there would be no gravity than a
blue veil would weigh nothing.
Speaker 1: Right, we will be.
Speaker 2: The source of this gravity comes from the great deep
what is the great, the divine consciousness, the integrated consciousness
of the universe is Shiver. He is the naked singularity,
the solitary singularity. And from that and the same as
that is the gravity. So it stands at the doorway
of the great nothingness, which is Shiver, and matter at
its subtlest is light. And they have singulate it as
a photon. When it contacts gravity, the gravity pulls it
and transforms the photon into Layman's language nothing ness, no
thing ness. That no thing ness is God. Now what
is this no thing ness? Because the whole creation is something.
I mean from the densest matter to the subtless photon,
it is some thing ness. Some thing ness is the
whole of creation permeated and filled with electrons, protons and neutrons.
That is Tamma raja and sato gunnas. It's filled with gunnas.
They are withar. The Messiah comes to balance these goners,
which is happening on the earth today. Too much of hatred,
too much of lopsided behavior. Is all going to be
settled in twenty thirty two. As for the prediction, well.
Speaker 1: Prediction from where excuse me? The prediction? Where did that
that number has been said to me multiple times for
my multiple guests on the show. Twenty thirty two is
a very specific date. Where did that they come from?
Speaker 2: These were some famous astrologers who belonged to the the
Bakhti Margh and there was a great rishi in those
astrologers of the Bakhti mag of Krishna and Mahapra when
they went deep into meditation and they got this information.
So the name of that one of those master people
who intuited this was called the Rishi achutand Achut he
was the one who covered this with a few more
yogis and rishi's and they brought this information.
Speaker 1: So they're saying that twenty thirty two something is going
Is there going to be an incident?
Speaker 2: There's going to be an incident just now. He is
the kul Kia Dar is the Kalki of Dar in
the to simplify the language, who is known as the
Second Advent and is also known as Maitriya Buddha is
the second Advent. Well is now operating in the collective
consciousness of humanity. He will regroup and withdraw his collective
consciousness into the body that is already incarnated into that
body which will be called the Kalki Avatar or the
second Advent of the Christ. And he will come and
proclaim upon the world that this, friends is the beginning
of Sati Yug. This is the year twenty thirty two,
and many of the things imbalanced on the earth has
been balanced. Dharma has been balanced to a great degree.
But some residual effects remain. This is naturally in such
a big process, It isn't natural. And from now the
progress of your collective humanity will begin to form a
new race, a new civilization, a brave new world of
the perfect man, called the Sidha, the fifth degree of initiation.
So the whole of humanity will be say, partially enlightened.
A Sidhar is like an enlightened being. But above him
there are other states, like the the Ounshaftar, the Avduth,
the Avdar, the poor Naothar, and.
Speaker 1: The Maha'atar which is Barbiji.
Speaker 2: And then the Trinity. Sure, so this this is the
process of transformation. Dharmay itself is a process of transformation.
Speaker 1: So is that why right now everything seems so chaotic?
So all over the.
Speaker 2: Place it seems chaotic because Mars is pulled gravity out
of its status to help it in its selfish needs
of the ego.
Speaker 1: Kuna. Has this ever happened in humanity's history?
Speaker 2: This is a cyclic process.
Speaker 1: Right, that's my question. So has humanity ever gone to
this place in all of the cycles, like the Yugo
cycles that.
Speaker 2: In this cycle only the gounnas have to be kept readjusting.
It happened that time about twelve thousand, at the time
of Krishna. That's how many years ago, five thousand years ago,
six five, five thousand years ago, So three one hundred
and two was the time of Krishna and this is
twenty six, yeah, full five thousand years ago, and now
is the time for him to come again. What's happening
right now is a readjustment that humanity has to go through.
So it's like a calibration, if you will.
Speaker 1: It is so in the U. So it seems to
me the Yuga cycles, And please correct me if I'm wrong.
As humanity goes through these Yuga cycles, and there'll be
a definition of what the Uga cycles are. I'll put
a little definition of what the Yuga cycles are. But
the Yuga cycles are going in the twenty four thousand
year cycle twenty four thousand years, right, so every twenty
four thousand years it goes like that. So we start enlightened,
we go down to the dark, and then we come
back up and now currently we're on our way back up. Yes,
but it seems like and correct me if I'm wrong.
So let's say we start here. This is our first cycle,
first time we did it. Every time we repeat it
seems to evolve just a little bit, and we keep
going up and up. So technically, every time we are
hitting enlightenment as a as a consciousness, it's the first
time we've ever done it because we are constantly trying
to get back to the singularity.
Speaker 2: The singularity, that's where we're going.
Speaker 1: So that's where we are right now. So that's where
we're going. So we are past the dark, now past
the dog. But we still have residual a lot of
residuals left over. So in the timeframe of the yugas,
where are we how many more years thousands of years
do we have before we get to the top of
pure enlightenment.
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Speaker 2: Well, speaking in the term, you know, there are three cycles.
One is the twenty four thousand year human cycle. Then
there is a larger cycle which is in millions of
years you have to calculate. That is the Deva cycle.
And then there is the larger cycle, which is very
popular stated in the world, that is the cosmic cycle.
So there are three cycles of you girls.
Speaker 1: Within each other, yes, dancing, dancing.
Speaker 2: The human cycle, the spirals into the Deva cycle, spirals
into the cosmic cycle. So we are talking about the
human cycle. So definitely after nineteen thirty two, I would say.
Speaker 1: In about twenty.
Speaker 2: Thirty two, yes, excuse me, I would say this is
it will depend upon the human effort and the effort
that the Kalkiautar, the Second Advent of Christ has put
It should take no longer than five to seven years
to get out of get out of your ignorant state
and be established in the dharma of Samadhi.
Speaker 1: And that is going to be I mean, I'm assuming
there's going to be souls on the planet that will
not be able to connect with that energy because because
they're just not in this incarnation, is not there or
will everybody who there's certain So obviously there's people who
are more involved than others, younger souls, older souls, and
then some incarnate because I want to be ignorant in
this life and I want to learn those lessons. So
not everyone is going to feel this, or am I wrong?
Speaker 2: You say it's natural that everyone will feel it at
different levels. You see the Supreme consciousness or the christ
consciousness or the Krishna consciousness. It will permeate your whole
planet Earth, It will saturate it. Each according to his
own awareness. If you're less aware, you will get less
of the enlightenment. If you're more aware, you will get
more of the enlightenment, depending upon the degree of your
awareness with which you receive that consciousness. So that's what
we are striving for. But there will be very less
extreme movements of destruction and chaos and havoc. The world
will tend towards progress and peace.
Speaker 1: That would be nice.
Speaker 2: The residual cases will be there because it's it's it's
not just a mechanical process. You're dealing with live nature
and live souls, and even the electron protons and neutrons
are animated by the very person who's trying to liberate them.
Speaker 1: Very true, Very true. I wanted to ask you something
you not I've you know, I've sat in this chair
now for a while, and I've done many interviews in
this room, and I've had people when I when they're
in the room and they're doing some sort of either
channeling or energy is coming through them or something, I
feel something. But with you, when you're in the room,
it's a little bit different signature. I am sensitive, and
I know I'm sensitive and I feel things, but I
want you to explain to me what has happened physically
to people who come into your presence, because I've gone
through since you've sat down and we started this guy
and we've been talking. We talked for about an hour
before we walked in here, but that was different. When
it's just you and me in the room, the energy
is a bit different for me what I'm feeling, and
it seems to me that and I've been I've actually
been very as you're talking, I'm actually another version of
me is sitting behind me, going, Okay, what are you feeling?
Is what's coming in And I'm thinking, like what's happening,
and I'm being very aware of it. So just in
this time that we've had these thirty minutes that we've
spoken so far, I've gone through. Really, I'm getting really tired.
I can't. I'm like, I feel like sleepy. And then
there's moments where I'm like, I have this energy, you know,
as the conversation change shift, I have more energy. Then
I feel certain things happening in my body, whether it
be the third eye, pressure around the sinuses, those kind
of things. And it's not my allergies because I didn't
have that before I walked into the room. So can
you explain to me if there's a way to explain
scientifically what the energy transmission is and how what is happening.
I'm just I'm fast because I've never asked this question,
and I would love to know if there is a
scientific or close to a scientific explain it, because it's
affecting this.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're validating it by personal experience. Correct, But we
can't have an ever a miracle thing. It can't be
measured in a poetry, of course, but the thing, the
validation of personal experience is enough for the person. So
what happens is this, let me explain scientifically. I always
tell my disciples I am there for you as the presence.
You shall not walk alone, and many disciples in Australia,
in New Guinea, in Johannesburg, in Italy, France and America,
they feel my transmission to different degrees. So they one
disciple said Grunathio being partial because the person knew me,
they went into total trance and they would lost. And
I just got a nice feeling up my spine and
the pain in my back and neck went away. So
why did you transmit more to him and less to me?
So I said my state as a server of humanity,
I am equal to all men at all times. You
are different in the sense that some are more aware,
more accessible of my transmission, and some are more closed.
So you will know my transmission to the degree that
you are open to my transmission. You see, I said,
if any disciple is attuned to the undifferentiated consciousness of
Yo Giraj Kurunath, then that disciple shall gravitate his consciousness,
shall gravitate itself out of light mind existence, and become
Yo Garaj to the degree of his attunement with Yo
Giaj s in the NA.
Speaker 1: So similar to what's happening in twenty thirty two fives.
Speaker 2: So because you are attuned to me. If you are
a little more attuned and you don't try, you will
be gone. Because some people told me, as soon as
we see you are thoughts side, they melt and we
are in a very very peaceful, euphoric, drowsy state. So
I said, that's a yogidhra. I said, because your thoughts well,
because I am an embodiment of consciousness, not an embodiment
of thought, Because my innate nature is consciousness. This cloak
of the body and the mind is put on to
make me accessible to you, because in my pure state
of samadhi, I cannot access you. So I have to
adopt a mind. I have to take a mind, I
have to take birth as a body. But my central
consciousness is so dominant that for thousands of miles all
over the globe, any receptive person will receive my It's
not a transmission, because I'm already there, will receive me
to the degree of his atunement with me the moment
he opens the windows of his eyes or yours already there.
To Russian, he says, sometimes you said the transmission will
be at five o'clock. I received your transmission at four o'clock.
Are you faster than light. I said, we have to
be because the mass of the master is in finite.
Because you opened up, I didn't travel anything. I was there.
You became attuned to me before the time is given
for the transmission. So I was already there and I
went into you. So this is an awareness. An awareness
is not transmitting. The awareness is already there around you.
I hope I'm not speaking too much of myself. I'm
just speaking out of the experience that other people have
had that if I transmit from here, the person in Timbuktu,
in Kilimanjaro in Africa, or in Japan or Australia on
New Zealand will receive me at the same time.
Speaker 1: Of course, that makes all the sense in the world, because.
Speaker 2: It's a field. I am the magnet. It's the quantum field,
if you will. Yes, it's a quantum field that's all connected.
So you're all connected tapping in. Yes, you have to
tap into NAT.
Speaker 1: Is it similar to the Internet in that sense? The Internet?
The Internet, the Internet is all connected all the time,
and all you have to do is just kind of
jump in and if I do something here, it's instantly
across the world. It's a crude example.
Speaker 2: But it's a crude example, but it's something simple. But
the Internet doesn't cure your spinal it does not The
internet does not care, does not cure your back ache,
or does not cure your schizophrenia, or does not cure
your stressed mind. This awareness, which is there, the living soul,
the living soul, the consciousness, does cure maladies your mind.
It suthes your nerves. That is the difference, because it
animates the whole of creation. This aveness also animates the
Internet to the degree of the reception of the Internet,
but that will be a two very material basic level.
Speaker 1: Sure, what's funny is that, I mean, I can go
to sleep right now and I feel I'm like, as
you're talking, and I noticed it a little bit more
and more.
Speaker 2: But you are very receptive. Yeah I am.
Speaker 1: I am, that's for sure. I'm sensitive in that sense.
But one thing I've noticed, and this has happened multiple times,
and I didn't know until only recently, that sometimes I
would catch myself yawning in the middle of a conversation.
And I've done it four times since you were talking.
And I'm like, I'm trying to hold it back, and
I'm like, how rude. I'm not bored. It's not that
I'm like, what's going on? And it's been explained to
me that that's just the energy transmission, that.
Speaker 2: It's energy is a king and of more brown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was just like, literally I hid four
yawns while you were speaking, and I'm just trying to
like not fall asley. But it's not because I'm bored.
Speaker 2: It's an overpowering energy. It's a it's it's a it's
an energy of such ch the ch is coming. It's
a you see what's his the lip from Sanctum thorium,
drop by drop, tongue soak, silixers wine, sublime lulls me
to ecstasies, rosy rest or the Bishop's wine by father Best.
I spoke about my transmission. If you sit in front
of a sad guru, he'll llull you to a rosy
rest That's what is happening.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I could, I could lie down right now, Sep.
Speaker 2: It's a lullaby.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely, it's an absolutely.
Speaker 2: I went to the Big Bear Shasta.
Speaker 1: I love Bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when Lady came to, I was talking with
my friends. A young girl eighteen twenty two year old girl.
She said, so, can you please stop talking. You're allowing
me to sleep, and I can't do it. I can't
do my duty. I said me, stop talking, I said,
my dear, I will sit far away. She said, yes, sir, so,
but I shouldn't hear your voice. So if I hear it,
I go to I'm going into this ecstasy. There's very
nice sleep. But I can't do it on duty. I
lose my job. So I had to move away from
that place. So some people are so receptive.
Speaker 1: They're sensitive to it, They're sensitive to the energy. And
then the receptive is a great word to use because
their antenna is wide open. So and on top of that,
I've I mean, I get more exposure than most because
of the job I do, speaking to so many people
like yourself, and I get that energy. So I would
think that I have a bigger tolerance, but I don't.
Speaker 2: But I have put this statement, this law behind you.
Committee's principle, and this principle it works invariably that if
any mind is attuned to an undifferentiated consciousness, that mind
becomes that consciousness to the degree of his attunement with
that consciousness. So you are Gurunath. You are divine consciousness.
To the degree you know that conscious you are tuned
to that consciousness. You are God to the extent you
know God. Because God permeates the whole of creation, and
the Sadguru is his humble servant, representing that pure awareness
and giving it to millions of people at the same time.
And since this God permeates the whole of creation, then
everybody is God. A dull God, a dumb God, a
stupid God, a murderer God, but dis square a sense
of the murderer is God, a thief God. God is
within everyone. Then then a happy God, a charitable God,
a good God is a philanthropic God, and then a
meditating God, a purer God, a Samadi, and then a
nviculp Samadi, a pure awareness, and then God, God, God, God, God.
Speaker 1: God.
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Speaker 2: So that theory of evolution from Mars, the alchemy of
total transformation, has taken it right up to the state
of God. Because God, the divine reality, is at once
the bless her, the giver, the he empowers creation, and
from the other side as the soul receives his own
creation and pushes the ego, which is sandwiched between the
jiva and the shiva. One is infinite consciousness, the solitary singularity,
and one is the individual consciousness, the infinite consciousness. It
empowers creation to work as it does. At the same time,
it is imminent in creation as the soul of man.
And this soul pushes your mind from behind to meditate.
That is the question, is what makes you meditate? What
makes you go back? If there's so much temptation that
inner self of yours, which is pure awareness, that awareness
is of the great Unknown, and that pushes your obsession,
your sexual appetite, your emotional feeling, mind, your intellect, and
your intuition. It pushes it from within you to reach
your parent source, which is the integrated consciousness of the universe,
which is known as God, which is known as the reality.
And the best word I like, is known as the
Great Unknown because nobody can fathom of scientists, quantum physicist,
anyone particle physics. You can all try your whole thing,
but he is the great unknown. He will ever be
at that state of unknown. You cannot analyze him, You
cannot bring him to book you can only become him
by humble submission. Hernihan certain day, your body, mind, and
soul to him totally.
Speaker 1: You know, it's fascinating. Good Is that your explanation? That
it rang so true to me? I don't know why
I just clicked the explanation the of a of a
sad guru walking around that they are a humble servant
of God, of the universe, of the universal, only the
great unknown. They're a humble servant, but they are, and
I can't I'm trying to find an analogy for it,
but they seem to be. If they're walking through life,
it's a thank you, it's a doorway they seem to
be walking in, and they're they're an antenna and they're
putting out certain energies that only they are. They've figured
out what the channel is and they're able to tune it.
And then other people start picking this up, but they
might not understand it may not. And if your antenna
is not set up, your radio is not set up,
you won't even feel it. But the people's radios that
are set up for it, they'll start feeling that energy.
And God needs these kind of beings to walk around
Earth to wake people up. So when christ and Buddha
and Christiana, when they all showed up, they were there.
I can't I can't even comprehend what it was like
for christ for Buddha, for for Shiva to be or
Vishnu to be walking the earth and to try to
broadcast that kind of energy with radios who barely understood
how to turn on, let alone connect with that energy.
From your experience, what was it like if you have
any inexperience or anything that you've heard or read, what
was it like for these avatars to be walking around
earth when the consciousness was so low that it must
have been in many ways infuriating that you.
Speaker 2: Couldn't Yeah, because when the consciousness gets low, Yeah, it
it just at that time that these out, sure, because
they need to about through main savis. If I'm doing
work and I save a person in a simple way,
I'm doing the work of an avadar. Sure you see
the qualification of and off Thar is that he should
have transcended the rings pass not. Now the rings passed
not is a ring of maya energy and materialism that
is light. You have to pass and be faster than
the speed of light for your mass to be in
finite and people are trying it every time, they are
trying it, and they tried it in Africa. I got
a thing from Johannesburg that I was sitting your meditation
was here. I felt your transmission. So the sud Guru
is being tested from moment to moment. But the suth
Guru will not say that it is a direct experience
of God. He will always say I am the server
of humanity and he is not a channel.
Speaker 1: He is it.
Speaker 2: In the limited sense that you can comprehend. He is
that godess since he made the still mind he gives
you is godess sense. So what you say and that
I want to make stillness that you're feeling now, the
drowsy luck that is God in you, which is God.
He's so real, He's when within us when you're talking.
He's in between you and me here right here.
Speaker 1: So when and I want this not away the the
I wanted this to be very clear for the audience.
And I'm having trouble speaking.
Speaker 2: Because like the heavy gravity is heavy, yeah right now,
I'm gravitas is heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah right now, I'm feeling like I'm struggling.
Speaker 2: Guru's putting on too much weight on your tongue and
it's okay, but I will bliss.
Speaker 1: But this tongue is strong, my friend, I will continue,
I will fight. I want to make this very clear
for people listening. He's like, you're not channeling this energy.
You are the energy.
Speaker 2: And there's a big this thing being channeled by helos
all over the world. Because I got this information from
three people. One is an Austin herself. One is a
German lady. I said, what are you doing? So he said, Grunad,
I have to tell you that I invoke you every
time I healed, but not only do you come as energy.
I'm just reporting. Sure, that's what she says. I never
say this. It comes through me. But Grunath, I see
you standing before me. I said, what are you talking.
You must be dreaming. She said no, no, it's with
open eyes. Your form is before me, your energy is
with me and I hel I said, next time, please
try and touch him. See what happened. She said no,
I would not because I'm scared of the voltage. I said,
that will not happen. Then the other lady says, I
see your form and your form and face. It comes
right into me, over me and your face becomes my face.
This was more like the therees Neumann the stigmata who
had Jesus come into her hands, were bleeding and all that.
But this is not a stig mater case. This is
a healing case. So when I come in there and
then she starts healing. But why are my troubles there?
My daughters is now giving me trouble. She's had having
bad dreams and she's not steady in hermindra I said, look,
don't call Guruna To'll do anything you want to. Don't
call him. Stop healing, increase your career practice. If you
do seventy two kreas, I can contact you anywhere in
the world. If you do it, then I will repair
your problems without you having said it. Consider it done.
You've told me in my years. I'm not giving you
a mantra nor tantra. Just do the kreas I gave you.
Open up and the rest is already done. It's there.
So I've told both of them. So many people have
said that you come. There was another lady in Finland.
I don't even know these ladies and all in their
using me for a healing and all, and I am
coming wise. Gurunath so generous. If it's a good cause,
he should be generous. So I'm not transmitting I am there.
I'm sorry. I have to tell the truth. I'm telling
the truth before you and the audience to day because
people test me from moment to moment. And this you Gurunath.
If if we do Korea and we call upon you,
will our breath become longer, return deeper? I said, if
Gurunath is the sud Guru, it has to happen. I
am making no effort. I don't need to make an effort.
And many times I have come to you in past lives,
but you have not recognized me, and so I come
again and again, but people cannot place their finger. Even
now I am before you, but you cannot recognize me.
But although you make that effort, maybe I have kept
the screen on your eyes so you don't recognize me
before my time.
Speaker 1: Gurua, let me ask you this. Obviously we've spoken about
reincarnation and past lives. Is there a moment and I'm
curious your opinion on this if there is an avatar,
because I've heard from my own research that avatar is
like Christ even though he was what he did he
came back afterwards for another life to deal with some
karma or to deal with something else. Is it possible
for a soul to be an avatar or to be
so spiritually evolved that they are where you are or
even higher, if it's possible, And then they come back
in another lifetime and forgot all about that, and they're
just living their life in this life, paying off karma
of karma, but dealing with karma and just living a
normal life. But they're drawn back to that kind of
stuff constantly because it's so powerful within their their experience
in lives. Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: If a person has evolved to the state of the avtar,
he has transcended the highest Samadhi called the Dharma meg Samadhi,
where there are no obstacles. He has conquered the fear
of death. He has conquered love, he has conquered hatred,
he has conquered the ego, the sense of eye, and
he is conquered of with their the great illusionary reveiled
which covers creation. In that state, he has also conquered
his karma, so he has nothing or no reason to
live or to come back, and he moves on to
the final state of nirwan, which is Kaivali. I call
that state Nirvan Nerungjian Moksha. From that state, there is
no reason for a soul which has become a mahatma,
which has become a paramahana to return. Then he works
with the laws of creation, with gravitation, with you know, karma, electromagnetism.
He has no individual karma, but people who would like
to come back, they finished their karma in the state
of Dharmami Samadi. The first stage of Samadi is with
herk Then his mind is refined to which are Samadhi
find is further advanced to Anan the Samadi. When he
passes from Anan the Samadi, he loses his personal ego
and it goes to the cosmic ego into Sir Smith
Smith Samadi, the ego where the ego is. All of
this is me cosmic ego. It's a cosmic ego. All
of this is me in that state where the mind
is perfectly still, without a ripple of thought, and it
reflects the whole of the singularity, the whole of God
in his full glory and splendor, because the ripples of
thought do not distort the images of the Supreme consciousness.
So only when duality imitates singularity, like in the Nirudha
mind of Asmith Samadi, when the mind becomes a divine mind,
thought free, then only it can reflect divine consciousness. And
if it persists being mindless still mind, then it transforms
into that consciousness itself.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a it's possible for let's say
a yogi.
Speaker 2: Now, these yogis who stay in thermamegan don't go on
to get into into kaivalia on one eran max. Those
are the authors who carry there and come after every
yoga of every two thousand years.
Speaker 1: Right, But there are But there is a possibility for
yogi to to reach a certain level of their own evolution. Yes,
but not get to that level.
Speaker 2: They get, but they choose to stay in that level
they get. They can also get beyond, but they choose
to stay there for the for the service of humanity,
their servants of humanity, and out of a deep, deep
sense of compassion, the seed of compassion, which is also
a desire, but it's it's a reversed desire to give
your all to humanity and to lend a hand. That's
why lives of great men all remind us we should
make our lives sublime and departing leave behind us footprints
in the sands of time. Longfellow said this, I think,
and he said the footprints would remind of all in
brother shipwrecked to all life Solomon, men to take that
path and be enlightened once again. The latter part was
my poor, it sounds better.
Speaker 1: So Gurnath, let me ask you this. Now.
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Speaker 1: To change the subject a little bit. There's been a
lot of talk these next years, especially up to twenty
thirty two, We've been hearing a lot a lot about
disclosure and the idea of full disclosure of of beings
from another universe, things like that. In my studies, I've
realized that in a lot of the ancient scriptures they
discuss these things, and a lot of Native indigenous cultures
they discuss the sky people and things like that. It
seems to have been in our DNA for a long time.
We are just now starting to wake up to this idea.
I've always said, there's a large waste of space if
we're the only thing in the universe. What from your
point of view, is what we're discussing now, and why
is it mixing in disclosures coming in at this pivotal
time in humanities evolution? Is it part of the evolution
to understand that we are not alone in the universe?
And how does that work with what you've studied and
learned from ancient scripture?
Speaker 2: In the Himalayas deep forests, as the yogi is light
the night files, they sit around the fires and talk
about a being who is called the Nameless One. Here
is the nameless One, the mysterious one, the custodian of
our whole earth and galaxy. He is called the Nameless One,
and yet he goes by many names. This being is
discussed amongst the yogis, amongst philosophic circles, amongst or saint
trince ages, and they say that they will come a
being surrounded by his glorious angelic host. We may call
this aliens, or we may call this the Elohim.
Speaker 1: Eluhims are angels, though aren't they versions the high higher, higher,
higher than angels.
Speaker 2: The angelic hierarchy, the elohem of the angelic hierarchy, of
the heavenly host. They're the highest and these, these sacred
fires will come with this being. One of them shall
remain at We will be standing at the back as
the background, unmoving, unchanged, eternal, and yet everywhere at the
same time. He is, this being which they call injury,
which they call God or aliens, will be there forever.
This being has just stopped my thought.
Speaker 1: The being the being of aliens, and the this is
the this.
Speaker 2: Not we don't say aliens in our country. No, this
being will be standing there. He will be the ever present,
the ever present watcher of the world cycle, of this
world cycle, of the yes another world cycles he gets
for higher work was. But then from him they will
be projected a certain angelic hierarchy, a certain power of
divine beings, celestial beings whom we call the Agnish what Ishies,
the Sages of the Firemists, which you call the aliens. Interesting,
the Sages of the Firemists have already established the hierarchy
eighteen and a half million years ago, and they've nurtured
the nursery of humanity till today.
Speaker 1: Really so, they've and the.
Speaker 2: Angel of the heavenly host the ugnish Ishies. The Sages
of the Firemists also have a lower wall lower guardian
of Siddhas, who are called the Guardian Wall of humanity.
In my video Earth Piece through Self Peace, I've shown
the Guardian Wall. They prevent humanity from being destroyed by
other cosmic forces, which are so vast that it could
wipe humanity the face of the earth, like the dinosaurs
were wiped out, the lemmings were wiped out. So the
Guardian Wall does this work off silently, preserving the human seed,
which Noah did, which the Manu did, that the human
seed would live on and procreate. But the sages of
the Firemists choose to come out only after every two
thousand years. They are lofty beings beyond our reckoning. They
are our own brothers. We are the blood of their blood,
and the sweat of their sweat, and the tears of
their tears. We are the same. And when they reign,
we reign, and they dispend, many of them through the
planets and the stars are present karma of action and reaction.
So these sages two thousand years. But in the middle
great masters like Yoga dar Lahary Mahasaya and the Buddha's
shang Kapa and all these great great people. Yes, Babaji
himself was there, but he was the Watcher, and Shri Yuki,
shure Lary Mahasaya and shang Ka Pa. And another interesting
person which is not goruction Art, but Matsindranath who is
the disciple of Gorukhat in the earthly sphere, who is
also known as Maitrea or Christ.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm making this revelation. This is my experience. I don't
want any contradiction. People can have their own free experience,
but this is a revelation. They also told the stages
of the Firemists can no not two thousand years, come
every hundred years, because humanity is getting bersark. The gunners
are not behaving and balancing themselves. You need to balance
the earth more with your gunadharma. So the gunas that
you imbibe in them will make a better humanity. So
these people, the sages of the fire Mist, will be
coming now with the person called Kulki or Christ. Another
name for him would be Ilias who is merged with
Elisha in the Mount of Hebron. It was not God
Moses in Elijah. It was Moses, Ilias and Elisha. Because
Jesus that is Elijah. He told his disciples come with
me today on the mount of Hebron. I will show
you the greatest sage of all times. His name is Moses.
And Moses looked on and Christ went to the mount
of Hebron, and he said, do not sleep. Do not sleep,
or your dear disciples, keep awake. Keep awake, because they
were feeling drowsy, because the gravitas of the Moses and
this thing was so heavy upon them that there's hard
to keep awake. Stand stand on one leg if you
want so. Then when he went up and Elijah was there,
he is known as Ilius, So Moses, Ilius. They are
one of the Angelic higher than the Angelic hierarchy. They
are the nine Elohim, one of the Elohim. So he Jesus.
He went up there, and there the transfiguration came, where
the transformation of Jesus became one, and he merged. Elisha
merged into Elijah. That is, Elisha merged into Ilias. These
are the aliens who Western people unknowingly called. This is
according to me, I don't know about the United States
Army when they're disclosing what they're disclosing. Due to my
deep meditation, these people will now be coming on the
earth to evolve humanity to the state of the Sidhra,
to the state of the perfection after twenty twenty thirty two.
And these are the aliens we call they're the blood
of our blood and the flesh of our flesh. Only
that they have gone so far in evolution beyond us,
three hundred six hundred million years, more evolved than us,
that we have to concede that, O Man, you have
become God, and you are God. We do not know
the great Unknown, because we never will, but we know
you as the link between us and the great unknown. Us,
the limited consciousness, You, the unlimited consciousness, are merging into
the know not what so the unlimited consciousness is the singularity.
But beyond the singularity, there's way more, way more. And
these are the aliens according to me, that the agneshwa Thrishis,
who have incarnated to a custodians of this earth to
look after this earth eighteen and a half million years
ago where humanity got its emotion and its devotion. And
now they are coming again twenty thirty two with the Kalkiotar,
with the second Advent of Christ to help him in
his work. These aliens whom we miss. It's a misnomer.
We miscall them. Aliens will help you to evolve your body,
mind and soul to a divine state of a perfected being.
These are the aliens who I think will be coming,
Not aliens with big heads and big eyes. I have
seen these aliens who are the Agnish Thrishies, and I've
merged into them, and I come as a servant of humanity,
and I will also be working with the with the aliens,
if you may call them so for better understanding. But
they're the Agnish Threshies, the sages of the Firemists who
came in their chariots of fire eighteen and a half
million years ago. They're the the They're the and Barbajee
shivagoraksh is the collective consciousness of the angelic hierarchy of
the heavenly host. He is the master, the demiurge Gruna.
Speaker 1: Are these beings that you're speaking of? Is that what
was mentioned in the in the Sumerian texts, the Anunaki.
Speaker 2: The anaki means just not evil, not bad, an naki
not bad. I'm good. But the Anunachi were also human
and sevent divine beings who received their power from the
Agnish or the Bharishadrishi's They have human feelings like us,
but they are perfect in certain.
Speaker 1: Ways, more evolved than obvious.
Speaker 2: They would be more evolved in a certain way, but
in a certain way. No, they have not liberated beings.
Anunarchi are not liberated beings. They're highly evolved beings. They
have sidies or powers, okay, and when they have perfected
those powers, they say, we are an Anaki. We have
perfected these powers. And many of the ladies today I
had at leave six six ladies asking me, am I
an Naki? Am I a Anachy? I said, if you
do krea yoke, you can be an Annaki and you
can go beyond an Anonaki. You know what you mean
beyond an an anarchy is Rodrani. The Rodrani is a
is a is a is an aspect of Parvati. So
the Rodrani is higher than the Anonaki. But she goes
into the causer in a divine state.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, in the scope of the universe,
universe seems, at least from this the material world pretty unforgiving.
I mean in the world in the sense that things
are born and die on this planet every day, every creature, everything,
and there doesn't seem to be a lot of I
wouldn't say that there's not a lot of care, but
it's just part of a system that it seems to be,
at least from our point of view, unforgiving. Animals are born,
animals dye, plants are born, plans or die. Earthquakes happen.
I mean, it just happens. Why is it that Earth
and humanity has this guard rail, these walls to protect
us from other energies from around the universe. What makes
us so special? Or is this something that happens to
many different creatures around the universe.
Speaker 2: It happens to many other different souls and arthmas around
the world, around the universe, around the universe who are
living in subtler dimensions which you can't see. But to
call the Earth unforgiving, I do not agree. It is
doing its work of evolution. But you see the Yogi
takes it like this. Birth and death are mere chapters
in your life story where you cast your body garment
and take on another garment. Wherein are you the lesser
by dying? You only cast your body cloak the body
the man of clay. But you are essentially much better
the God of Ray. So birth and death are mere
chapters in this life story, and you, as the living
spirit it of eternity, flow on.
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Speaker 2: So you are stringing your many personalities of many lives.
You have taken many bodies and cast many bodies. But
all throughout this taking the bodies and casting the bodies,
you remain the same. I was born in the rock.
I died out from the rock and was born in
the lichen and the coral reef. I died out from
the coral reef and was born in a fish. I
died out from the fish, and I was born in
the crocodile and the reptile. I died out from the
crocodile and reptile and was born as an animal, four
legged animal. And I died out from the four legged
animal of the deer and became became a stag. I
died out from the stag, and I became a monkey.
I'd died out from the monkey and came in a orangutang.
Then I evolved from the orangutang to the chromagnant man,
from which I ultimately became the homo Sapian man. Wherein
did I become the lessered by dying or my Only
my outer coats were different, But internally I was the same,
adorning more and more expressive bodies and brain cells from
where I could express the God within me more and more,
until I was transformed from man the brute to man
the man, to man the God.
Speaker 1: And when I said that the earth in the universe
seems unforgiving, it is from the perspective of the material existence,
I agree with you one hundred and time percent. It
is just part of the part of why we're here.
Speaker 2: But my book is to set this to reset the
thinking that I'm not a corruptible body. I'm a divine soul.
I'm a servant of humanity. I've been told to remind
human beings every time they say that that I'm a
coruptible body. I'm not a corruptible body. I'm a divine soul,
and I'm eternal.
Speaker 1: Are is humanity ready for these beings to present themselves
in twenty thirty two?
Speaker 2: Humanity will be ready in twenty thirty two after the
hell that they've been through and continue will taste a
little heaven and I love that. And these these guys,
they are Gnish with the rashes, or you can say
the sid the sung, the Rish is sung. These people,
they will come and remove the obstacles from the minds
of humanity and allow them to flow into nature towards
their own divinity. And the evolution will take place after
twenty thirty two of their becoming from man the man
to man the god. Man the brute is gone. It's finished.
It's being finished. Now there will be no man, man
the brute. But they will culture themselves and they will evolve,
but not only in meditation and this thing. In arts,
there will be progress. In science. There will be progress,
you know, in culinary arts and cooking. In a military
warfare they will.
Speaker 1: Be so we will still have military word, you.
Speaker 2: Will have it, but they will be negotiating on the
table that the war will be Who's who's the cleverer
chess player, So it's a refined version. Everything will be there.
Wrestling will be there, boxing will be there, Football will be.
Speaker 1: There, because that's an experience in this life. I mean,
if I want to come in and be an athlete,
and I want to, I'm gonna wanna I want to.
I want to a world or a reality that I
can be a boxer and understand what that experience is.
Like I was thinking the other day, I was sitting
there just thinking about the absolute, endless, infinite amount of
experiences a soul could have on this Earth, from how
they walk in, how they come in, the caretakers they choose,
the country they exist, the different career paths they can go,
the kind of wealth or lack of wealth that they have,
the kind of health or lack of health that they
It is literally endless. It's infinite how many experiences a
soul can have just on this one planet, let alone.
Thinking about probably in my lifetime there'll be humans on
Mars probably, so then that's a whole other experience. Imagine
children being born on Mars, that that's their home, even
though they're Earthlings, they're actually Martians, And that is not
science fiction. That's something that could very easily happen in
my life, happen in the next twenty or thirty years,
no question that I think something like that will happen
in the next hundred. My god, it's fascinating, but I
find it so remarkable how many different experiences on this
little blue marble, though, is that is floating in the universe.
But then there is billions upon billions upon billions of
other marbles out there.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we're discovering them more and more.
Speaker 1: We can't get to them. Is that part of the
brilliance of this design? Because you know, you and I
can get on an airplane right now and go anywhere
in the world pretty much. We can't go to Jupiter,
we can't go to Mars. We can't go to a
planet that's forty nine light years away or four hundred
light years away. It's not doable yet. But these long
distances seem to be perfect, a perfect part of the design.
Speaker 2: If you go beyond a certain distance, Yeah, then the
past Earth and all its design they've become at kept.
You see, when scientist has said that how long would
it take us to travel from one end of the
universe to the other end? So the answer was never.
Then they said, suppose we travel a thousand times the
speed of light. Never never, million times the speed of light.
Speaker 1: It's too fast, it's too fast.
Speaker 2: A billion times the speed of light. Then they were thinking,
he said, now you have begun thinking. No, twenty billion
times the speed of light.
Speaker 1: It's really doesn't know, but they.
Speaker 2: Have calculated that for a person sitting in a light capsule,
which is travel no longer called a light capsule because
it is traveling seventy billion times this of light to
traverse the universe in three months. This is what they calculated.
The scientist, I mean interesting. So light is a very
slow it's the snail, you know, the snail and the heir,
the rabbit. So it's it's traveling so slow. Three hundred
thousand kilometers per second is really very slow. If you
want to do universal travel, well I want to see
your aunt in another galaxy or something, you've got to
go very fast.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you though that what how could
these other beings from other universes, other galaxies, other planets
travel to us? Is there is there a fall like
and now we're getting into quantum physics and theory, quantum
theory where they have to like bend the universe wormholes,
so things like that.
Speaker 2: Because you are dealing with the mind and considering travel
through the mind, it would take hundreds of light years off.
The nearest planet is about four ideas away of what
something like that? Asura, Yeah, is that forty or fifty
something like that. Yeah, that's because you're you're you're using
a material object light is you're traveling in a capsule
of a foot on. That's taking that time. Leave materialism alone,
leave the divine mind alone, Get to consciousness, which is
already here, there and nowhere. It is here, it is everywhere,
It is nowhere, and it is now here. So there
is no time limit. If you put yourself in the
highest state of kaivally nirvan neranjan moks and make a
sun cult before in your mind, because in that state
there is no mind, that sun culp will stay and
in that you will reach any place you want in
no time, of course, because you have trans That's what
the experiment here is going with me that I'm transmitting
to all these people at the same time. If I
was traveling, I would transmit quicker to you and later
to a person in Japan. But the japan person gets
the transmission at the same time as you. That means
the consciousness that I am is not traveling. It's already
everywhere on the globe in the universe. It is that
person who opens the window in the consciousness rushes it
iss like a car which is drowning in water. You
open the window of the water, will Russian. That's the
consciousness of the sub group. He's already there available for you.
So in time traveling cosmic space, if you end that awareness,
you can be everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
This is the new physics.
Speaker 1: It is, it is now, Gurnav. I'm afraid to ask this,
but I'm going to. Can we do a meditation a
transmission to because I don't know if I can handle it.
But why I am afraid of asking you?
Speaker 2: But we can do a meditation if you're If the
people are open and they want it, I'm there to
serve them.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna hold on tight.
Speaker 2: Because I'm not doing a meditation. I'm doing them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I am them, but not their physical body. I am
the common Goddess sense in them, which is also in me.
So if I spread out in common guard Awness and
they open a window for me, I will contact with
their God of Veness in a sense of peace, a
great sense of peace.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I am. I am here for you, sir.
Tell me what you need us to do to do this.
Speaker 2: So what I can do is I can give you,
give them a meditation, please, they want a guided.
Speaker 1: One or a guided one is always good. Yeah, even
if it is something small. I'll close my eyes and
everyone could just tell everybody what to do, how to sit.
If they're driving, stop, wait till later, you know, wait
till you're in a comfortable place to kind.
Speaker 2: Of, and then I'll give them a big hug.
Speaker 1: So, yes, after the meditation, give everybody big cosmic hug.
Speaker 2: If I give a cosmic hug, they will be feel squeezed.
They will feel the energy around them. If they are aware,
they will feel my hug. And they if they if
they put both arms together, if they fold their arms,
they will feel the hug. Okay, this is important to
show that humanity is evolving. And we aliens who come
to you, we aliens can hug you from any distance.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, my dear alien.
Speaker 2: Yes to And if they if they want to know
what an alien looks like, they can look at me.
Alien can look like Moses, he can look like Vussity
can look like any chriss. This bearded, this thing fits
on all the rolls.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, Okay, I am ready for you,
my friend.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go into meditation.
Speaker 4: Now okay, oh m om om bra.
Speaker 2: Brah Brah Macarma samadinam Swaha. Now sit still, let go
of all inhibition, drop the ego. Sit relaxed, keep your
spine straightened upright and your shoulders drooping. Relax the jaw
and face muscles, and sitcom I'm taking you on a
meditation called the Way of the White Swan. Sit calm
and close your eyes, keep them open if you like,
and visualize your body as the temple of your soul.
Your body is a vehicle, it's not you. The soul
in the shape of a swan that is like a
five pointed star, is in the midpoint of your eyebrows.
The soul with its two wings spread out, its two
legs that's foe, and its neck towards the sky that
is a five pointed humsar swan. Humsar means the soul
I am that I am God. The swan is the
symbol of the soul which you are. Your body is
a temple, and the white swan resides in your third eye.
Now slowly visualize it flapping its wings, going higher and
higher till it perches on the top of your head
on the Fontainelli in the middle, on the top of
your head, on the steeple of your body temple is
the white swan that you are. And then from there
you flap your wings and go higher and higher and
higher towards the moon. Now you, as the white Swan,
are drinking the nectar of the moon. The soam rushs
the embroisier of the moon with your enulation. You are
drinking the embroisier of the moon. After having done so,
you proceed from the top of your head. You are
flying higher and higher and higher. And as I have said,
you have reached the center of the moon.
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And now back to the shell.
Speaker 2: Where you are drinking the embroiser of the moon. Then
you penetrate your head and go higher and higher into
the deep starry skies. You are the humsa swan flying
with your eternal wings in the deep space, starry space
of the skies, your taste of the freedom of the Lord.
And as you flap your wings, you the soul sworn
the Humsar, studded with the stars, bejeweled wings ablaze and
bound to boundless land of ever wondrous peace.
Speaker 4: And joy.
Speaker 2: And as you flowhigher and higher you fly, your wings
take on a golden tinge, burnished gold. As you fly
towards the divine suria the Sun, your body becomes gold.
As you merge into the center of the Sun and breathe.
The wisdom of the universe is within the Sun. You
have taken the love and nectar outtake the wisdom inhal you.
The golden Swan is absorbed in the center of the
suria the Sun. And after having drunk the wisdom of
the world, you penetrate the orb of the Sun by
flying higher and higher. Now you go into the deeper
space of consciousness. It is a rare consciousness. And as
you fly into deep space, your wings spread from eternity
to eternity, and you taste of the free spirit of
the Lord. And you fly higher and higher. Your wings
have expanded from eternity to eternity. Your mind is still
like a still lake with no ripples of thought. And
now your mind and the form of the sworan and
its wings melt away. You are pure awareness, pure consciousness,
and with this awareness you enter another dimension of divine consciousness,
no form, no thought, absolute silence and bliss. I am
there for you as the presence. Your consciousness and my
consciousness is one. My identity is bliss. My identity is
divine consciousness and bliss. Thought free, you are thought free
and calm. High up in the heavens and beyond, you
are bathing in divine consciousness of God. But without a
form and without a thought. You are pure awareness, absolute,
still and calm. You are divine consciousness. You are healed
of all material malady. You are divine consciousness. Come share,
my Samadi. The still goddisance in me is also the
still goddessance in you. I am assisting you to become
me and become the divine, and to become yourself as
the divine pure awareness. And higher and higher you go
into pure regions of nothingness and divine consciousness. That is
your true nature. You are one with the Lord and
now inhale gently divine love and form of vortics of
the stillness of our cash from the stillness of consciousness,
and you come lower and lower, you descend in that vortex.
It's a world, Come blw and this is the first spun,
the first vibration from nothingness into something. And as you
forecome lower and lower, your wings appear, your beak appear.
Your appear as the divine swan, having touched the feet
of the Lord, and you become a swan as you
descend lower and lower, and you fly into the deep
starry skies, lower and lower, and then you pass through
the divine orbit of the Sun where you drunk the nectar.
Having gone past the Sun, you get into the moon
where you drink the som that is the divine nectar
of the Moon.
Speaker 1: You are in the moon.
Speaker 2: Now you go lower and lower and sit at the
top of your head, the steeple of your body temple.
Sit at the top of your head. You the white Swan,
flood your body with the rainbow colored light of love, wisdom,
and truth. You are now transferred to your physical body.
You are healed and complete on your way to the
divine realization. Inhale love, Hold love. Look to the left.
Exhale love through the mouth. Get back to the top
of your head and to the third eye. Now and
now open your eyes and relax. Maybe it's a little
deep to you. Don't get up immediately. I've disclosed. This
is the disclosure. I have disclosed my pure arthma consciousness
to you. You are sharing my consciousness because you and
my consciousness are one. We are beyond our material, corruptible body.
We are divine souls. At the level of consciousness, humanity
is one. I am tending to go up again into
my summer, which is very deep, that you do not
have to follow me. Come down, Come down, Come down,
Spirit of the Lord, Oh Alien, come down, Alien, whom
we call ma'athma. God is not alien to us. Neither
is the event horise in the sad Guru alien to us.
Here is the core of our innermost being. He is
the life of our livingness. Divine and now in haale love,
hold love, exhale love, inhale love, hold love, exhale. Open
your eyes, open your eyes and relax. Take the spiritual
energy in your hands. Create the balsam of the sun
and the moon and smear your face with it. Take
the balsam divine right to your head, behind your ears,
index finger in your years and then fling them out
with a zing sound. The rubbing of the hands to
create spiritual energy is important. Also, go to grab the
divine complexion and the Lord God permeates the whole show.
There's nothing he is not.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I was in this went a little too deep. I
don't know how the people. I don't know how the
people are going to take.
Speaker 1: I don't either. I barely held on my so it would.
Speaker 2: Be surprised when people will really go off, tell them
not to drive and.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, the everyone. Yeah, I already said
that before. Please stop driving, don't do that fetal cause
if they want exactly bumping an astro. So I'll tell you, well,
first of all, I wasn't expecting it that deep, that long.
I thought it was going to be like the last
time it was like a five minute little you know.
Speaker 2: Kind of energy ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: This was a about twenty minutes. Yeah, So we would to.
Speaker 2: Leave it because at the end they can neither cut
it off or they can carry on with Oh it's
absolutely no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere. It's staying. Don't worry. Don't you worry.
The the energy that I felt during it, So I
got to a place where I was and I've been
meditating for about eight years now, I've got to a
place where I started to feel things that I feel
when I go into a deep meditation. But I was
able to get there much quicker. This happened to me,
if it's happened to me multiple times in my meditations.
But my breath starts to shallow to a point where
I'm barely breathing. I'm just there. And then I start
realizing what's happening. Images that are coming into my brain
or my mind, the third eye, the pressure, the waves
that I felt last time, I felt this time. Even
my voice. You can hear my voice. Got why is
my voice hoarse all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: It's some curing process because when the awarness is there,
it cures all the rough ages, round it off. When
you're taking my awarness, it does the curing. It's everything
leading to perfection. Yeah, because one of that is happening
to you is leading upwards.
Speaker 1: I mean you can literally hear my voices. I couldn't
do this if I tried, So something physically happened to
me during this meditation that my voice is completely different.
And I haven't been yelling or screaming, So I don't
know why my voice is hoarse. This has happened before,
or I have felt this before in certain meditations and
certain things that I've done that all of a sudden,
I come back in my voice is hoarse. I feel
energetic now. I didn't a minute ago, but now I
feel like a burst of like I just trans some coffee.
I feel energetic now. Where this has been a roller coaster,
We're not. This entire year conversation has been a roller
coaster for me. I've been like right, it has been
so much. I'm giddy. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2: Very powerful, very very powerful, and very powerful. But those
people will get it more powerful than you because the
more the distance, the more the gravity increases. Then so
I just hope they don't. But you're taken care of.
They don't go out and.
Speaker 1: Drive right, No, everyone needs to everyone needs to please.
Speaker 2: They still don't be aware Freeze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel high. I feel I've never been high,
but I feel high, but high on my own supply.
As they say, Goobern not where I'll try to finish
this conversation. Where can people find out more about you
in your amazing work?
Speaker 2: The first thing they can find out more about me
that when I come for the podcast, person like Alex Ferrari,
he would tell them my location, I will and the
time I'm having this this this such sung and Atman
are the retreat. Yeah, you're doing retreats now, a retreat?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the next one?
Speaker 2: The next one will be I think in Shasta that
is the next one. And the last one, which is
a very very high caliber, will be in San Diego, Okay.
Speaker 1: And I will put the links in the in the
show notes for everybody to be able to follow if
they want to, if they want to come and experience
what I just experienced.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, experience pretty deep.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you one last question. If this were
the last conversation you could ever have with humanity, what
would you want every soul to remember from this last
statement that you're going to say, which I've already said,
But is there anything else? The last thing you would
like to say? You've said many things. I'm trying to
hold on myself.
Speaker 2: I The last thing I would say to humanity is nothing,
because I would make them sit in front of me
and give them an experience of the goddessnce that is
my awareness, my goddessance which is around them. Take them
on the flight to the everywhere and the nowhere and
make them experience the goddessans the awareness which you are
experiencing now. That would be the best thing I could
do rather than say anything, make them experience God. Be
still and know that you are God.
Speaker 1: Gun. It is always a pleasure and honor having you
in the studio with me. I feel very blessed. I
feel very humbled to be here with you, my friend.
So thank you for not only being here and sharing
your energy.
Speaker 2: Sharing myself. Yeah, sharing yourself energy is my lower self.
I myself went into you. I shared myself with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I laid my life on the line for people who
want to walk across that line to the divine. I
have laid my life on the line for those people
who want to walk on that line to the divine.
Speaker 1: Gruna, thank you so much for being here, and thank
you for their service to humanity that you have done
all your life.
Speaker 2: Thank you, I thank you and humanity for allowing me
to serve you with all my heart and soul.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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