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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I'd like to

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welcome back to the show returning champion Yogyaj. How you doing,

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Yo Graj? Thank you, Thank you so much for being here.

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My friend. It's this is your third time on the show,

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and every time you come in, the energy in the

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room lifts. It's a beautiful energy, and we have such

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beautiful conversations, so I appreciate you coming back. My first

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question to you is what do you see happening right

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now on Earth that other people are not getting or

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don't understand.

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Speaker 2: You say, according to my thinking, if you may call it,

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or my observation, the Earth is going through a transition period,

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and of course it has all to do with the

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balancing of the dharma.

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Speaker 1: Can you stay what dharma is for people?

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Speaker 2: Dharma is something which you hold on to. It comes

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from the word dharna. You focus in concentration and hold

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on to it. And that which is your ideology is

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called your swadharma. That which you believe in that which

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you are centered in, that which is your ish today

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means your central God who you worship, or a central

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idol who you worship or principle, that would be your therma.

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H Of course, thehrma is also connected with the gunna.

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The gunas are satwa raja and gunna s gunna. So

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guna therma vivajet. It means according to your gunnas, your

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therma is determined, your ideology is determined. Whether you are

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a tamasic, lazy and a dull person, your therma would be,

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you know, eating a nice steak, enjoying good food, sleeping

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long hours into the day. It's a lazy tharmasic life

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connected with the neutrons. Then the other therma is very active.

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It's connected with protons. The ego therma rajasik. Rajasik therma

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connected with ego and desire. You want to achieve something.

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You're in achiever, so your life is very active. Your

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married life is good, you have two to three wives,

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you have twelve children, you're still able to maintain them

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and you're still going on. That's a rajaesik therma that

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is activity. The first derma was initia. This is in

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asia makes you sluggish. That is the tharmacic therma. Then

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the rajasik derma which is activity, and then this luminosity,

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the electron luminosity, the sato therma. These people are constantly dieting,

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eating good food or satwik food miss pure food, and

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meditating long hours, trying to serve people to do. So,

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these are the three thermas I divide into three different portions,

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the thamask, the rajasik and the the Sathwick.

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Speaker 1: And this is determined before we ever incarnate.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because you come with your your latent impressions, impressions

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which are sound scars, latent desires. If it determines whether

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you are more thoumasic desires of inertia, rajasik desires of activity,

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or luminosity desires of meditation. Right, so if you come

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with more Sathwick desires, you will be meditating all the time.

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You will be doing Suthwick things, having a pure diet,

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vegetarian diet. So this is to do with the luminosity.

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And in all this the central theme is transition to transit.

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The transition of man is from man the brute to

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man the man to man the god. This is what

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yoga is all about transmission and evolution so as.

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Speaker 1: But what you're saying is like, well, if you're this

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this version, you are vegetarian, things like that. But that's

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something that you can transition to throughout your life. You

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can come in in one energy and then discover or

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evolve to another energy.

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the point.

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Speaker 2: Because your body is anychius of willing mass of energies,

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of electron protons and neutrons. Sure, and by the will

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of the divine soul within you, the divine being that

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you are, you can change the arrangement of the atoms

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Speaker 1: So go ahead, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: By the apt concentration and you get into some you

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concentrate and become one with the object. Subject and object

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become one and your goal is achieved, and these atoms

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they move to subtler regions.

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Speaker 1: How does this all of the things that you just

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spoke about, how does that affect what we're going through

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on the planet right now? And what are people not seeing?

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I keep saying to people, well, I was growing up

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in the seventies. There was a lot of chaotic times

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in the seventies, a lot of chaotic times in the sixties.

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War two. So there's always been chaotic times in recent history.

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This is just another version. But I think we're more

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heightened about it because of technology and being able to

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see everything and hear everything, and everyone's got an opinion,

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so it feels a little bit more heightened than it is.

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What's your opinion of that.

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Speaker 2: My opinion is that way we stand today in the

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present condition forget about the past and observing the present

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as it is. There's a transition taking place, as we

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can see. And this transition is a result of the

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transaction I mean amongst two nations or two countries, and

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here a lot of energies are being moved. You see

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a lot of blockages to human evolution. Human evolution. The

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human being as a world disciple is a collective consciousness,

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and this human being as a world disciple has to

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decide its own fate and destiny. If this world disciple,

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the collective consciousness of the world has got more ego,

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which is Soathwick, rather than which is Rajesic. If the

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collective consciousness of humanity is tending more towards illuminosity rather

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than activity, or tending more towards the Rajesic desire of

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activity than the tamorgun inertia. Then that majority of gunners,

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the majority of atoms and the subatomic particles, if they

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are the luminosity in the minds of humanity, then that

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humanity will struggle for luminosity and fight the activities which

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are of a lower desire, lower energy, lower desire. So

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the three gunas Raja, Tama and Satwa. It is the

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balancing of these three gunas which has to happen. And

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once you balance the gunas the rajah, Tama and Satwa,

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that is called the establishing of the dharma. Because dharma

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is composed of the three gunners. The gunnos make your

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therma and thehrma becomes your karma.

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Speaker 1: Explain that what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: So the three gunas of luminosity, activity, and inertia. Every

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human being in the form of electron, proton, and neutrons.

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When the human being through past evolution has aggregated more

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of the luminosity of sathwagun that is Southwik electrons than

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it has protons and neutrons than this Southwick electronic person

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who's tending towards awareness, tending towards finding his own nature,

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that person whose atoms his whole being, and he is

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gravitating towards the great consciousness. He will try to push

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his way past those people who are involved in materialism

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and the fun of the earth and marriage and getting

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into maya and duality. They will try to bypass that

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obstacle and go into the singularity. The duality is rajasik.

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The singularity is pure, it is Sathwick. That's why the

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Lord God is I consider to be the naked Singularity.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain what the singularity is for people who

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don't know what that is?

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Speaker 2: And he is further called the great Unknown. So when

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you get to singularity, singularity is a very deep subject.

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It means the one they alone. In this world, we

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have what is called duality, and we need duality for

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karma to operate so that we can live our daily

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life action and reaction, life and death, joy and sorrow,

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you know, hatred and love. So we are oscillating in

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our emotional pendulum. All human beings are caught by the

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pendulum of duality, hate and love, light and dark. That's

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why the mind can never be steady. It cannot be

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focused because it is always oscillating between fine emotions of

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love and fine emotions of hate. So this duality of

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opposites teach me to override. Take me with THEE or

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spirit free, aren't to the other side. So I pray

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to the spirit free, which is this singularity. Take me

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with THEE to spirit free onto the other side. So

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the whole creation and its creator is an oscillation between

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the singularity, who we call God or the reality, and

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between duality that is the worldly life of day to

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day activities. Some sar as we call the worldly life

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the singularity, you see, only happens if the whole world

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is crunched. I'll tell you the meaning. Into a small marble,

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it is reverting back to its state of non being,

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the Earth, the planet, the planet. If the size of

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a marble, the intensity will be very dense, and because

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of the intensity the weight of this, it will break

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the space time continuum and go into the eternal non being.

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Speaker 1: So the.

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Speaker 2: Singularity is such an intense density which has become so

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intense that it is faster than light. It has broken

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the light barrier, and it has surpassed the space time continuum,

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and it goes into the state of singularity. It is

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such an intense state of nothingness whilst withstand no duality,

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there will be only one, the naked singularity. That is

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the question, and it's very difficult to explain it in

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more detail, sure in a short possible time. But this

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is the pure state of awareness and the state of matter.

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The state of awareness is gravity. So the whole of

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creation is a play between Mars and gravity. Yeah, mass

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and gravity. Mass pulls gravity into his own selfish use.

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It sort of brings down gravity from its state, and

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gravity in turn organizes mass, and mass disorganizes gravity. And

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as the gravity increases slowly and slowly it becomes transforming

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the grosser matter and energy into the subtler light. Light

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is the subtlest form of energy. It's still in duality.

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Speaker 2: When the event horizon of the sake, the gurutu occurs

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and the sub Guru, he pushes the last atom of

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the photon out of existence, gravity pushes matter out of existence.

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This is the cusp between divine consciousness of God and

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the divine mind of the goddess mind is just the

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subtlest form of matter. And the subtlest matter they found

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is the photon. What gravity or the guruto does, what

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the sud guru does, He transforms the material disciple into

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the pure consciousness of God. I will tell you, I

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will tell you a definition which I've made. So this

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event horizon pushes the last particle of matter into consciousness.

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But because it pushes the matter into consciousness, the consciousness's

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mass is in finite. If we were theoretically to say

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one qubic centimeter of nothingness the singularity and the weight

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of the whole universe, or the weight of the whole

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let us say, for understanding sake, the weight of the

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whole galaxy and the weight of one cubic centimeter of

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nothingness or singularity. That singularity will outweigh the weight of

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the whole galaxy. And that singularity in the center of

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every galaxy is the solitary singularity.

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Speaker 1: Is that the black hole that they're starting to discover,

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that there's a giant black hole INSI each but the.

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Speaker 2: Person who transforms they all matter into consciousness matters. The

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materials at managing into consciousness is the event horizon which

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is the sid Guru. It takes you to such a

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height it makes your mind and matters so pure that

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it is pushed into consciousness.

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Speaker 1: But is this with the guru. When they do that,

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they're basically reawakening the power that the individual who has

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them through the process and their energy is how. It's

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kind of like a parent, you know, holding a child

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walking into the ocean and making sure.

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Speaker 2: That yes, yes, pushing him in.

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Speaker 1: That's but he's but the child's walking, it's up. We're there,

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just the kind of gut.

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Speaker 2: But in reality, as far as the child a is

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a body and has a mind and has patterns of emotions,

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sure the sub gurul is different. But the awareness in

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the child, that is the soul, is the same as

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the soul of the suth Guru is the athma of

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the child. That means the suth Guru's larger self is

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helping his own smaller self to merge into the infinite.

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We know not what.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you say that because in a lot

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of a lot of Westerners, specifically, they associate the guru

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as a godlike figure or as the end all be all,

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but I've always and this is just my opinion. And

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what we do with next level soul is that a teacher,

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a guru, a swami, a guide, they're all served the same.

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They all serve the same purpose, which is to re

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to make you remember as the student, the power you

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have within yourself. As opposed to saying I am the way,

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it's like no, no, It's like Christ said, everything I

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can do, you can do and more. Yes, the Kingdom

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of Heaven is within you. Yes, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: What I say. The same thing. Yeah, everything that I

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can do, you can do, But not until you become

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my state.

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Speaker 1: Right, you have to get to the teacher.

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Speaker 2: Cannot, the teacher will keeps. The teacher informs, and the

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master transforms for the sad. For the master, the human

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soul to transform, it should have reached the state of

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no return. There's the state of nivik Samadhi, the state

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of event horizon. It should have no personality, no mind,

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and only consciousness. And in that state of no consciousness

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he can transformed matter into consciousness, mind into consciousness. Where

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light is pushed out of its ultimate creation into enlightened light, divine, wild,

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and divine consciousness. All the teachers and this thing are

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teaching with a divine mind. But the sad Gurul being

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the same one of them, he has crossed the divine

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mind state and is divine consciousness.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So therefore I have said a statement. If any mind

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mind is the student or the aspirant to God, If

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any mind is attuned to an undifferentiated consciousness, then that

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mind shall gravitate itself out of light mind experience and

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that consciousness of the sud Guru, to the extent of

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its attunement with that consciousness. If any mind is attuned

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to an undifferentiated consciousness, then that mind shall become that

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consciousness to the degree of its attunement with that consciousness.

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Now that consciousness is gravity. He has a field he

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will pull, pulling the innermost core of the student. And

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then the student will be pulled by gravitas. By his meditation,

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his chanting, his praise, he will purify his mind with

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the purification of the degree of his mind, till the

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mind becomes no mind. When the mind becomes no mind,

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all that mass is translated is translated into consciousness. So

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gravity is transformed mass into consciousness. That is the whole

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prey of creation.

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Speaker 1: And this is a scientific question, but I'm just curious

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to see if you in your experience of an answer

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for it. The concept of gravity has been fascinating to me.

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It is a force, one of the forces like magnetism

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and so on in the universe, and it formed a

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bunch of rock into what we have here on Earth today.

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What is it? Where does it come from?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What is the ability of gravity? Because it's there, it's here,

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we feel it, we're experiencing it as we speak. But

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what's the origin on a cosmic level of gravity? And

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it's just gravity fling around? Or is it charged?

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Speaker 2: To see? Gravity is not a thing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to understand.

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Speaker 2: Gravity is described in a material sense. It is a movement.

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It's energy, it's more subtler than energy. It's a movement

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off you can say awareness, a movement. Aveness doesn't move,

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but a movement of awareness, which gives every single object

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in creation its weight. All mass is given its weight

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by gravitas. Without gravity, there is no way even if

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if a gravity, there would be no gravity than a

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blue veil would weigh nothing.

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Speaker 1: Right, we will be.

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Speaker 2: The source of this gravity comes from the great deep

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what is the great, the divine consciousness, the integrated consciousness

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of the universe is Shiver. He is the naked singularity,

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the solitary singularity. And from that and the same as

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that is the gravity. So it stands at the doorway

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of the great nothingness, which is Shiver, and matter at

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its subtlest is light. And they have singulate it as

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a photon. When it contacts gravity, the gravity pulls it

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and transforms the photon into Layman's language nothing ness, no

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thing ness. That no thing ness is God. Now what

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is this no thing ness? Because the whole creation is something.

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I mean from the densest matter to the subtless photon,

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it is some thing ness. Some thing ness is the

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whole of creation permeated and filled with electrons, protons and neutrons.

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That is Tamma raja and sato gunnas. It's filled with gunnas.

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They are withar. The Messiah comes to balance these goners,

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which is happening on the earth today. Too much of hatred,

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too much of lopsided behavior. Is all going to be

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settled in twenty thirty two. As for the prediction, well.

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Speaker 1: Prediction from where excuse me? The prediction? Where did that

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that number has been said to me multiple times for

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my multiple guests on the show. Twenty thirty two is

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a very specific date. Where did that they come from?

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Speaker 2: These were some famous astrologers who belonged to the the

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Bakhti Margh and there was a great rishi in those

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astrologers of the Bakhti mag of Krishna and Mahapra when

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they went deep into meditation and they got this information.

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So the name of that one of those master people

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who intuited this was called the Rishi achutand Achut he

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was the one who covered this with a few more

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yogis and rishi's and they brought this information.

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Speaker 1: So they're saying that twenty thirty two something is going

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Is there going to be an incident?

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Speaker 2: There's going to be an incident just now. He is

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the kul Kia Dar is the Kalki of Dar in

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the to simplify the language, who is known as the

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Second Advent and is also known as Maitriya Buddha is

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the second Advent. Well is now operating in the collective

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consciousness of humanity. He will regroup and withdraw his collective

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consciousness into the body that is already incarnated into that

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body which will be called the Kalki Avatar or the

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second Advent of the Christ. And he will come and

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proclaim upon the world that this, friends is the beginning

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of Sati Yug. This is the year twenty thirty two,

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and many of the things imbalanced on the earth has

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been balanced. Dharma has been balanced to a great degree.

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But some residual effects remain. This is naturally in such

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a big process, It isn't natural. And from now the

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progress of your collective humanity will begin to form a

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new race, a new civilization, a brave new world of

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the perfect man, called the Sidha, the fifth degree of initiation.

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So the whole of humanity will be say, partially enlightened.

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A Sidhar is like an enlightened being. But above him

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there are other states, like the the Ounshaftar, the Avduth,

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the Avdar, the poor Naothar, and.

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Speaker 1: The Maha'atar which is Barbiji.

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Speaker 2: And then the Trinity. Sure, so this this is the

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process of transformation. Dharmay itself is a process of transformation.

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Speaker 1: So is that why right now everything seems so chaotic?

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So all over the.

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Speaker 2: Place it seems chaotic because Mars is pulled gravity out

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of its status to help it in its selfish needs

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of the ego.

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Speaker 1: Kuna. Has this ever happened in humanity's history?

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Speaker 2: This is a cyclic process.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's my question. So has humanity ever gone to

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this place in all of the cycles, like the Yugo

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cycles that.

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Speaker 2: In this cycle only the gounnas have to be kept readjusting.

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It happened that time about twelve thousand, at the time

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of Krishna. That's how many years ago, five thousand years ago,

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six five, five thousand years ago, So three one hundred

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and two was the time of Krishna and this is

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twenty six, yeah, full five thousand years ago, and now

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is the time for him to come again. What's happening

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right now is a readjustment that humanity has to go through.

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So it's like a calibration, if you will.

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Speaker 1: It is so in the U. So it seems to

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me the Yuga cycles, And please correct me if I'm wrong.

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As humanity goes through these Yuga cycles, and there'll be

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a definition of what the Uga cycles are. I'll put

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a little definition of what the Yuga cycles are. But

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the Yuga cycles are going in the twenty four thousand

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year cycle twenty four thousand years, right, so every twenty

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four thousand years it goes like that. So we start enlightened,

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we go down to the dark, and then we come

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back up and now currently we're on our way back up. Yes,

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but it seems like and correct me if I'm wrong.

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So let's say we start here. This is our first cycle,

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first time we did it. Every time we repeat it

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seems to evolve just a little bit, and we keep

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going up and up. So technically, every time we are

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hitting enlightenment as a as a consciousness, it's the first

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time we've ever done it because we are constantly trying

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to get back to the singularity.

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Speaker 2: The singularity, that's where we're going.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we are right now. So that's where

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we're going. So we are past the dark, now past

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the dog. But we still have residual a lot of

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residuals left over. So in the timeframe of the yugas,

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where are we how many more years thousands of years

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do we have before we get to the top of

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pure enlightenment.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking in the term, you know, there are three cycles.

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One is the twenty four thousand year human cycle. Then

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there is a larger cycle which is in millions of

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years you have to calculate. That is the Deva cycle.

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And then there is the larger cycle, which is very

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popular stated in the world, that is the cosmic cycle.

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So there are three cycles of you girls.

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Speaker 1: Within each other, yes, dancing, dancing.

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Speaker 2: The human cycle, the spirals into the Deva cycle, spirals

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into the cosmic cycle. So we are talking about the

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human cycle. So definitely after nineteen thirty two, I would say.

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Speaker 1: In about twenty.

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Speaker 2: Thirty two, yes, excuse me, I would say this is

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it will depend upon the human effort and the effort

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that the Kalkiautar, the Second Advent of Christ has put

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It should take no longer than five to seven years

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to get out of get out of your ignorant state

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and be established in the dharma of Samadhi.

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Speaker 1: And that is going to be I mean, I'm assuming

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there's going to be souls on the planet that will

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not be able to connect with that energy because because

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they're just not in this incarnation, is not there or

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will everybody who there's certain So obviously there's people who

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are more involved than others, younger souls, older souls, and

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then some incarnate because I want to be ignorant in

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this life and I want to learn those lessons. So

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not everyone is going to feel this, or am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: You say it's natural that everyone will feel it at

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different levels. You see the Supreme consciousness or the christ

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consciousness or the Krishna consciousness. It will permeate your whole

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planet Earth, It will saturate it. Each according to his

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own awareness. If you're less aware, you will get less

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of the enlightenment. If you're more aware, you will get

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more of the enlightenment, depending upon the degree of your

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awareness with which you receive that consciousness. So that's what

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we are striving for. But there will be very less

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extreme movements of destruction and chaos and havoc. The world

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will tend towards progress and peace.

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Speaker 1: That would be nice.

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Speaker 2: The residual cases will be there because it's it's it's

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not just a mechanical process. You're dealing with live nature

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and live souls, and even the electron protons and neutrons

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are animated by the very person who's trying to liberate them.

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Speaker 1: Very true, Very true. I wanted to ask you something

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you not I've you know, I've sat in this chair

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now for a while, and I've done many interviews in

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this room, and I've had people when I when they're

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in the room and they're doing some sort of either

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channeling or energy is coming through them or something, I

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feel something. But with you, when you're in the room,

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it's a little bit different signature. I am sensitive, and

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I know I'm sensitive and I feel things, but I

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want you to explain to me what has happened physically

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to people who come into your presence, because I've gone

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through since you've sat down and we started this guy

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and we've been talking. We talked for about an hour

473
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,880
before we walked in here, but that was different. When

474
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,199
it's just you and me in the room, the energy

475
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,760
is a bit different for me what I'm feeling, and

476
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,880
it seems to me that and I've been I've actually

477
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,800
been very as you're talking, I'm actually another version of

478
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,280
me is sitting behind me, going, Okay, what are you feeling?

479
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,480
Is what's coming in And I'm thinking, like what's happening,

480
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,599
and I'm being very aware of it. So just in

481
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this time that we've had these thirty minutes that we've

482
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spoken so far, I've gone through. Really, I'm getting really tired.

483
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,840
I can't. I'm like, I feel like sleepy. And then

484
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,199
there's moments where I'm like, I have this energy, you know,

485
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,480
as the conversation change shift, I have more energy. Then

486
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,440
I feel certain things happening in my body, whether it

487
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,400
be the third eye, pressure around the sinuses, those kind

488
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,199
of things. And it's not my allergies because I didn't

489
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,159
have that before I walked into the room. So can

490
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,280
you explain to me if there's a way to explain

491
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,239
scientifically what the energy transmission is and how what is happening.

492
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:16,840
I'm just I'm fast because I've never asked this question,

493
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:19,079
and I would love to know if there is a

494
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,840
scientific or close to a scientific explain it, because it's

495
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affecting this.

496
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Speaker 2: Yes, you're validating it by personal experience. Correct, But we

497
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:32,320
can't have an ever a miracle thing. It can't be

498
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,480
measured in a poetry, of course, but the thing, the

499
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,119
validation of personal experience is enough for the person. So

500
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:45,320
what happens is this, let me explain scientifically. I always

501
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,360
tell my disciples I am there for you as the presence.

502
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:59,440
You shall not walk alone, and many disciples in Australia,

503
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,360
in New Guinea, in Johannesburg, in Italy, France and America,

504
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:16,079
they feel my transmission to different degrees. So they one

505
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:19,960
disciple said Grunathio being partial because the person knew me,

506
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,800
they went into total trance and they would lost. And

507
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,639
I just got a nice feeling up my spine and

508
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,599
the pain in my back and neck went away. So

509
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:33,480
why did you transmit more to him and less to me?

510
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,880
So I said my state as a server of humanity,

511
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:44,800
I am equal to all men at all times. You

512
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are different in the sense that some are more aware,

513
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:56,559
more accessible of my transmission, and some are more closed.

514
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:07,000
So you will know my transmission to the degree that

515
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you are open to my transmission. You see, I said,

516
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if any disciple is attuned to the undifferentiated consciousness of

517
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:31,039
Yo Giraj Kurunath, then that disciple shall gravitate his consciousness,

518
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:36,199
shall gravitate itself out of light mind existence, and become

519
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:42,760
Yo Garaj to the degree of his attunement with Yo

520
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,519
Giaj s in the NA.

521
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Speaker 1: So similar to what's happening in twenty thirty two fives.

522
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,519
Speaker 2: So because you are attuned to me. If you are

523
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,159
a little more attuned and you don't try, you will

524
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:58,239
be gone. Because some people told me, as soon as

525
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,599
we see you are thoughts side, they melt and we

526
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:08,199
are in a very very peaceful, euphoric, drowsy state. So

527
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,719
I said, that's a yogidhra. I said, because your thoughts well,

528
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because I am an embodiment of consciousness, not an embodiment

529
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:23,800
of thought, Because my innate nature is consciousness. This cloak

530
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,519
of the body and the mind is put on to

531
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make me accessible to you, because in my pure state

532
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,079
of samadhi, I cannot access you. So I have to

533
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:36,559
adopt a mind. I have to take a mind, I

534
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,800
have to take birth as a body. But my central

535
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,239
consciousness is so dominant that for thousands of miles all

536
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:50,119
over the globe, any receptive person will receive my It's

537
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:53,679
not a transmission, because I'm already there, will receive me

538
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,320
to the degree of his atunement with me the moment

539
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,559
he opens the windows of his eyes or yours already there.

540
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:07,519
To Russian, he says, sometimes you said the transmission will

541
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:11,559
be at five o'clock. I received your transmission at four o'clock.

542
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,679
Are you faster than light. I said, we have to

543
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,280
be because the mass of the master is in finite.

544
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,039
Because you opened up, I didn't travel anything. I was there.

545
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:25,519
You became attuned to me before the time is given

546
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:29,159
for the transmission. So I was already there and I

547
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:33,320
went into you. So this is an awareness. An awareness

548
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,400
is not transmitting. The awareness is already there around you.

549
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,239
I hope I'm not speaking too much of myself. I'm

550
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,800
just speaking out of the experience that other people have

551
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:49,559
had that if I transmit from here, the person in Timbuktu,

552
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,079
in Kilimanjaro in Africa, or in Japan or Australia on

553
00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,960
New Zealand will receive me at the same time.

554
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Speaker 1: Of course, that makes all the sense in the world, because.

555
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,079
Speaker 2: It's a field. I am the magnet. It's the quantum field,

556
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:12,719
if you will. Yes, it's a quantum field that's all connected.

557
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,519
So you're all connected tapping in. Yes, you have to

558
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:16,679
tap into NAT.

559
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Is it similar to the Internet in that sense? The Internet?

560
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The Internet, the Internet is all connected all the time,

561
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and all you have to do is just kind of

562
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,880
jump in and if I do something here, it's instantly

563
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,960
across the world. It's a crude example.

564
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Speaker 2: But it's a crude example, but it's something simple. But

565
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:40,800
the Internet doesn't cure your spinal it does not The

566
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internet does not care, does not cure your back ache,

567
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,400
or does not cure your schizophrenia, or does not cure

568
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:54,079
your stressed mind. This awareness, which is there, the living soul,

569
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the living soul, the consciousness, does cure maladies your mind.

570
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,280
It suthes your nerves. That is the difference, because it

571
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,239
animates the whole of creation. This aveness also animates the

572
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Internet to the degree of the reception of the Internet,

573
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but that will be a two very material basic level.

574
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Speaker 1: Sure, what's funny is that, I mean, I can go

575
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:26,320
to sleep right now and I feel I'm like, as

576
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,880
you're talking, and I noticed it a little bit more

577
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,320
and more.

578
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Speaker 2: But you are very receptive. Yeah I am.

579
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: I am, that's for sure. I'm sensitive in that sense.

580
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But one thing I've noticed, and this has happened multiple times,

581
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and I didn't know until only recently, that sometimes I

582
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,480
would catch myself yawning in the middle of a conversation.

583
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,239
And I've done it four times since you were talking.

584
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And I'm like, I'm trying to hold it back, and

585
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,880
I'm like, how rude. I'm not bored. It's not that

586
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,800
I'm like, what's going on? And it's been explained to

587
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,679
me that that's just the energy transmission, that.

588
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Speaker 2: It's energy is a king and of more brown.

589
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was just like, literally I hid four

590
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,480
yawns while you were speaking, and I'm just trying to

591
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:14,840
like not fall asley. But it's not because I'm bored.

592
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Speaker 2: It's an overpowering energy. It's a it's it's a it's

593
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:24,079
an energy of such ch the ch is coming. It's

594
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:30,119
a you see what's his the lip from Sanctum thorium,

595
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:37,480
drop by drop, tongue soak, silixers wine, sublime lulls me

596
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:42,639
to ecstasies, rosy rest or the Bishop's wine by father Best.

597
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:46,400
I spoke about my transmission. If you sit in front

598
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440
of a sad guru, he'll llull you to a rosy

599
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:50,480
rest That's what is happening.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I could, I could lie down right now, Sep.

601
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: It's a lullaby.

602
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: It's absolutely, it's an absolutely.

603
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Speaker 2: I went to the Big Bear Shasta.

604
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Speaker 1: I love Bear.

605
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when Lady came to, I was talking with

606
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my friends. A young girl eighteen twenty two year old girl.

607
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:10,159
She said, so, can you please stop talking. You're allowing

608
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,800
me to sleep, and I can't do it. I can't

609
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,960
do my duty. I said me, stop talking, I said,

610
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,960
my dear, I will sit far away. She said, yes, sir, so,

611
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:23,559
but I shouldn't hear your voice. So if I hear it,

612
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,119
I go to I'm going into this ecstasy. There's very

613
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,760
nice sleep. But I can't do it on duty. I

614
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,599
lose my job. So I had to move away from

615
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,840
that place. So some people are so receptive.

616
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Speaker 1: They're sensitive to it, They're sensitive to the energy. And

617
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,599
then the receptive is a great word to use because

618
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:44,599
their antenna is wide open. So and on top of that,

619
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,679
I've I mean, I get more exposure than most because

620
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:50,320
of the job I do, speaking to so many people

621
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,559
like yourself, and I get that energy. So I would

622
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,079
think that I have a bigger tolerance, but I don't.

623
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Speaker 2: But I have put this statement, this law behind you.

624
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:04,559
Committee's principle, and this principle it works invariably that if

625
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:10,480
any mind is attuned to an undifferentiated consciousness, that mind

626
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:14,440
becomes that consciousness to the degree of his attunement with

627
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:21,000
that consciousness. So you are Gurunath. You are divine consciousness.

628
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To the degree you know that conscious you are tuned

629
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,519
to that consciousness. You are God to the extent you

630
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:35,360
know God. Because God permeates the whole of creation, and

631
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,360
the Sadguru is his humble servant, representing that pure awareness

632
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,519
and giving it to millions of people at the same time.

633
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,679
And since this God permeates the whole of creation, then

634
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:58,559
everybody is God. A dull God, a dumb God, a

635
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:02,280
stupid God, a murderer God, but dis square a sense

636
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,199
of the murderer is God, a thief God. God is

637
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,199
within everyone. Then then a happy God, a charitable God,

638
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:17,039
a good God is a philanthropic God, and then a

639
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:23,440
meditating God, a purer God, a Samadi, and then a

640
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:30,400
nviculp Samadi, a pure awareness, and then God, God, God, God, God.

641
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: God.

642
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

643
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,719
and now back to the show.

644
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: So that theory of evolution from Mars, the alchemy of

645
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,760
total transformation, has taken it right up to the state

646
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:55,840
of God. Because God, the divine reality, is at once

647
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:02,639
the bless her, the giver, the he empowers creation, and

648
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,320
from the other side as the soul receives his own

649
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,199
creation and pushes the ego, which is sandwiched between the

650
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:16,320
jiva and the shiva. One is infinite consciousness, the solitary singularity,

651
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:22,239
and one is the individual consciousness, the infinite consciousness. It

652
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,199
empowers creation to work as it does. At the same time,

653
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,280
it is imminent in creation as the soul of man.

654
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:35,639
And this soul pushes your mind from behind to meditate.

655
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,199
That is the question, is what makes you meditate? What

656
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,159
makes you go back? If there's so much temptation that

657
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,280
inner self of yours, which is pure awareness, that awareness

658
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:53,920
is of the great Unknown, and that pushes your obsession,

659
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:02,880
your sexual appetite, your emotional feeling, mind, your intellect, and

660
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,559
your intuition. It pushes it from within you to reach

661
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:12,320
your parent source, which is the integrated consciousness of the universe,

662
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,199
which is known as God, which is known as the reality.

663
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:20,000
And the best word I like, is known as the

664
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:26,119
Great Unknown because nobody can fathom of scientists, quantum physicist,

665
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:29,239
anyone particle physics. You can all try your whole thing,

666
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,320
but he is the great unknown. He will ever be

667
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:37,639
at that state of unknown. You cannot analyze him, You

668
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,960
cannot bring him to book you can only become him

669
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:47,960
by humble submission. Hernihan certain day, your body, mind, and

670
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:48,960
soul to him totally.

671
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:54,559
Speaker 1: You know, it's fascinating. Good Is that your explanation? That

672
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,519
it rang so true to me? I don't know why

673
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:02,440
I just clicked the explanation the of a of a

674
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,719
sad guru walking around that they are a humble servant

675
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,760
of God, of the universe, of the universal, only the

676
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,400
great unknown. They're a humble servant, but they are, and

677
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,800
I can't I'm trying to find an analogy for it,

678
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,199
but they seem to be. If they're walking through life,

679
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,360
it's a thank you, it's a doorway they seem to

680
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,400
be walking in, and they're they're an antenna and they're

681
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,599
putting out certain energies that only they are. They've figured

682
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:36,440
out what the channel is and they're able to tune it.

683
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,599
And then other people start picking this up, but they

684
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:41,039
might not understand it may not. And if your antenna

685
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,320
is not set up, your radio is not set up,

686
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:46,480
you won't even feel it. But the people's radios that

687
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:48,639
are set up for it, they'll start feeling that energy.

688
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:52,880
And God needs these kind of beings to walk around

689
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,719
Earth to wake people up. So when christ and Buddha

690
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:02,480
and Christiana, when they all showed up, they were there.

691
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,079
I can't I can't even comprehend what it was like

692
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:09,400
for christ for Buddha, for for Shiva to be or

693
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,760
Vishnu to be walking the earth and to try to

694
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,679
broadcast that kind of energy with radios who barely understood

695
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,039
how to turn on, let alone connect with that energy.

696
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,880
From your experience, what was it like if you have

697
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,400
any inexperience or anything that you've heard or read, what

698
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,679
was it like for these avatars to be walking around

699
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,440
earth when the consciousness was so low that it must

700
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,199
have been in many ways infuriating that you.

701
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Speaker 2: Couldn't Yeah, because when the consciousness gets low, Yeah, it

702
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:50,079
it just at that time that these out, sure, because

703
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:53,519
they need to about through main savis. If I'm doing

704
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,639
work and I save a person in a simple way,

705
00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:00,719
I'm doing the work of an avadar. Sure you see

706
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,880
the qualification of and off Thar is that he should

707
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,480
have transcended the rings pass not. Now the rings passed

708
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:15,960
not is a ring of maya energy and materialism that

709
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:22,559
is light. You have to pass and be faster than

710
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,199
the speed of light for your mass to be in

711
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,719
finite and people are trying it every time, they are

712
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,239
trying it, and they tried it in Africa. I got

713
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,760
a thing from Johannesburg that I was sitting your meditation

714
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,159
was here. I felt your transmission. So the sud Guru

715
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,840
is being tested from moment to moment. But the suth

716
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,719
Guru will not say that it is a direct experience

717
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,480
of God. He will always say I am the server

718
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:51,000
of humanity and he is not a channel.

719
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:52,599
Speaker 1: He is it.

720
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: In the limited sense that you can comprehend. He is

721
00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:00,760
that godess since he made the still mind he gives

722
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,119
you is godess sense. So what you say and that

723
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,239
I want to make stillness that you're feeling now, the

724
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,679
drowsy luck that is God in you, which is God.

725
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,239
He's so real, He's when within us when you're talking.

726
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,239
He's in between you and me here right here.

727
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,559
Speaker 1: So when and I want this not away the the

728
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,719
I wanted this to be very clear for the audience.

729
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,639
And I'm having trouble speaking.

730
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:31,639
Speaker 2: Because like the heavy gravity is heavy, yeah right now,

731
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:32,920
I'm gravitas is heavy.

732
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right now, I'm feeling like I'm struggling.

733
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: Guru's putting on too much weight on your tongue and

734
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,199
it's okay, but I will bliss.

735
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,519
Speaker 1: But this tongue is strong, my friend, I will continue,

736
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,159
I will fight. I want to make this very clear

737
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:53,760
for people listening. He's like, you're not channeling this energy.

738
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,119
You are the energy.

739
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: And there's a big this thing being channeled by helos

740
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,840
all over the world. Because I got this information from

741
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,840
three people. One is an Austin herself. One is a

742
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,119
German lady. I said, what are you doing? So he said, Grunad,

743
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,480
I have to tell you that I invoke you every

744
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,400
time I healed, but not only do you come as energy.

745
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,239
I'm just reporting. Sure, that's what she says. I never

746
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,760
say this. It comes through me. But Grunath, I see

747
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,480
you standing before me. I said, what are you talking.

748
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:34,480
You must be dreaming. She said no, no, it's with

749
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:38,719
open eyes. Your form is before me, your energy is

750
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,239
with me and I hel I said, next time, please

751
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,679
try and touch him. See what happened. She said no,

752
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,039
I would not because I'm scared of the voltage. I said,

753
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,679
that will not happen. Then the other lady says, I

754
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,199
see your form and your form and face. It comes

755
00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:02,360
right into me, over me and your face becomes my face.

756
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:07,199
This was more like the therees Neumann the stigmata who

757
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,519
had Jesus come into her hands, were bleeding and all that.

758
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,480
But this is not a stig mater case. This is

759
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,480
a healing case. So when I come in there and

760
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:18,360
then she starts healing. But why are my troubles there?

761
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:23,079
My daughters is now giving me trouble. She's had having

762
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:27,559
bad dreams and she's not steady in hermindra I said, look,

763
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,599
don't call Guruna To'll do anything you want to. Don't

764
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:37,159
call him. Stop healing, increase your career practice. If you

765
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,400
do seventy two kreas, I can contact you anywhere in

766
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,519
the world. If you do it, then I will repair

767
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:48,239
your problems without you having said it. Consider it done.

768
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,400
You've told me in my years. I'm not giving you

769
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,880
a mantra nor tantra. Just do the kreas I gave you.

770
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,480
Open up and the rest is already done. It's there.

771
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,119
So I've told both of them. So many people have

772
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:07,360
said that you come. There was another lady in Finland.

773
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:10,599
I don't even know these ladies and all in their

774
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,679
using me for a healing and all, and I am

775
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:17,239
coming wise. Gurunath so generous. If it's a good cause,

776
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,920
he should be generous. So I'm not transmitting I am there.

777
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,360
I'm sorry. I have to tell the truth. I'm telling

778
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,039
the truth before you and the audience to day because

779
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:32,719
people test me from moment to moment. And this you Gurunath.

780
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:35,400
If if we do Korea and we call upon you,

781
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,519
will our breath become longer, return deeper? I said, if

782
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:43,440
Gurunath is the sud Guru, it has to happen. I

783
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,880
am making no effort. I don't need to make an effort.

784
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:49,480
And many times I have come to you in past lives,

785
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,920
but you have not recognized me, and so I come

786
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,719
again and again, but people cannot place their finger. Even

787
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,559
now I am before you, but you cannot recognize me.

788
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:04,559
But although you make that effort, maybe I have kept

789
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:08,000
the screen on your eyes so you don't recognize me

790
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:09,360
before my time.

791
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: Gurua, let me ask you this. Obviously we've spoken about

792
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,320
reincarnation and past lives. Is there a moment and I'm

793
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,360
curious your opinion on this if there is an avatar,

794
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,840
because I've heard from my own research that avatar is

795
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,719
like Christ even though he was what he did he

796
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,559
came back afterwards for another life to deal with some

797
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:40,679
karma or to deal with something else. Is it possible

798
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,039
for a soul to be an avatar or to be

799
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:48,440
so spiritually evolved that they are where you are or

800
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,719
even higher, if it's possible, And then they come back

801
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:56,639
in another lifetime and forgot all about that, and they're

802
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:59,719
just living their life in this life, paying off karma

803
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:03,559
of karma, but dealing with karma and just living a

804
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:07,159
normal life. But they're drawn back to that kind of

805
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:11,199
stuff constantly because it's so powerful within their their experience

806
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,360
in lives. Is that a thing?

807
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: If a person has evolved to the state of the avtar,

808
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,960
he has transcended the highest Samadhi called the Dharma meg Samadhi,

809
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,239
where there are no obstacles. He has conquered the fear

810
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:35,119
of death. He has conquered love, he has conquered hatred,

811
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,400
he has conquered the ego, the sense of eye, and

812
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:50,400
he is conquered of with their the great illusionary reveiled

813
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:59,239
which covers creation. In that state, he has also conquered

814
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,960
his karma, so he has nothing or no reason to

815
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,800
live or to come back, and he moves on to

816
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,400
the final state of nirwan, which is Kaivali. I call

817
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,800
that state Nirvan Nerungjian Moksha. From that state, there is

818
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:24,480
no reason for a soul which has become a mahatma,

819
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:31,119
which has become a paramahana to return. Then he works

820
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:40,199
with the laws of creation, with gravitation, with you know, karma, electromagnetism.

821
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:46,280
He has no individual karma, but people who would like

822
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,639
to come back, they finished their karma in the state

823
00:57:49,679 --> 00:57:52,599
of Dharmami Samadi. The first stage of Samadi is with

824
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,480
herk Then his mind is refined to which are Samadhi

825
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:02,039
find is further advanced to Anan the Samadi. When he

826
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:05,000
passes from Anan the Samadi, he loses his personal ego

827
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,159
and it goes to the cosmic ego into Sir Smith

828
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:11,800
Smith Samadi, the ego where the ego is. All of

829
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,760
this is me cosmic ego. It's a cosmic ego. All

830
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,280
of this is me in that state where the mind

831
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:26,599
is perfectly still, without a ripple of thought, and it

832
00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:31,119
reflects the whole of the singularity, the whole of God

833
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:34,519
in his full glory and splendor, because the ripples of

834
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:39,280
thought do not distort the images of the Supreme consciousness.

835
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,920
So only when duality imitates singularity, like in the Nirudha

836
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:51,880
mind of Asmith Samadi, when the mind becomes a divine mind,

837
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:58,880
thought free, then only it can reflect divine consciousness. And

838
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:04,320
if it persists being mindless still mind, then it transforms

839
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,559
into that consciousness itself.

840
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a it's possible for let's say

841
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:10,800
a yogi.

842
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: Now, these yogis who stay in thermamegan don't go on

843
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:19,559
to get into into kaivalia on one eran max. Those

844
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,679
are the authors who carry there and come after every

845
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,199
yoga of every two thousand years.

846
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: Right, But there are But there is a possibility for

847
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:33,679
yogi to to reach a certain level of their own evolution. Yes,

848
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:36,199
but not get to that level.

849
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,199
Speaker 2: They get, but they choose to stay in that level

850
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:40,480
they get. They can also get beyond, but they choose

851
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:43,000
to stay there for the for the service of humanity,

852
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,559
their servants of humanity, and out of a deep, deep

853
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:50,679
sense of compassion, the seed of compassion, which is also

854
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:56,119
a desire, but it's it's a reversed desire to give

855
00:59:56,159 --> 01:00:01,440
your all to humanity and to lend a hand. That's

856
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,280
why lives of great men all remind us we should

857
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,639
make our lives sublime and departing leave behind us footprints

858
01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:12,320
in the sands of time. Longfellow said this, I think,

859
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:14,519
and he said the footprints would remind of all in

860
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:18,000
brother shipwrecked to all life Solomon, men to take that

861
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:25,679
path and be enlightened once again. The latter part was

862
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:30,079
my poor, it sounds better.

863
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,639
Speaker 1: So Gurnath, let me ask you this. Now.

864
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:37,039
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

865
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:41,920
and now back to the show.

866
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: To change the subject a little bit. There's been a

867
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,880
lot of talk these next years, especially up to twenty

868
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,760
thirty two, We've been hearing a lot a lot about

869
01:00:55,039 --> 01:01:01,239
disclosure and the idea of full disclosure of of beings

870
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:05,880
from another universe, things like that. In my studies, I've

871
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,320
realized that in a lot of the ancient scriptures they

872
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,519
discuss these things, and a lot of Native indigenous cultures

873
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:16,239
they discuss the sky people and things like that. It

874
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,440
seems to have been in our DNA for a long time.

875
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,840
We are just now starting to wake up to this idea.

876
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:26,360
I've always said, there's a large waste of space if

877
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,800
we're the only thing in the universe. What from your

878
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,960
point of view, is what we're discussing now, and why

879
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:38,639
is it mixing in disclosures coming in at this pivotal

880
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:42,079
time in humanities evolution? Is it part of the evolution

881
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,519
to understand that we are not alone in the universe?

882
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,679
And how does that work with what you've studied and

883
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,400
learned from ancient scripture?

884
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:57,519
Speaker 2: In the Himalayas deep forests, as the yogi is light

885
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:03,079
the night files, they sit around the fires and talk

886
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:08,039
about a being who is called the Nameless One. Here

887
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:13,320
is the nameless One, the mysterious one, the custodian of

888
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,039
our whole earth and galaxy. He is called the Nameless One,

889
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:25,039
and yet he goes by many names. This being is

890
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:33,119
discussed amongst the yogis, amongst philosophic circles, amongst or saint

891
01:02:33,159 --> 01:02:40,039
trince ages, and they say that they will come a

892
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:47,599
being surrounded by his glorious angelic host. We may call

893
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:53,079
this aliens, or we may call this the Elohim.

894
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,159
Speaker 1: Eluhims are angels, though aren't they versions the high higher, higher,

895
01:02:58,239 --> 01:02:59,599
higher than angels.

896
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: The angelic hierarchy, the elohem of the angelic hierarchy, of

897
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:10,920
the heavenly host. They're the highest and these, these sacred

898
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,920
fires will come with this being. One of them shall

899
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,199
remain at We will be standing at the back as

900
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:26,760
the background, unmoving, unchanged, eternal, and yet everywhere at the

901
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:34,760
same time. He is, this being which they call injury,

902
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,800
which they call God or aliens, will be there forever.

903
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:47,320
This being has just stopped my thought.

904
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:53,679
Speaker 1: The being the being of aliens, and the this is

905
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:54,159
the this.

906
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: Not we don't say aliens in our country. No, this

907
01:03:58,519 --> 01:04:01,800
being will be standing there. He will be the ever present,

908
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,880
the ever present watcher of the world cycle, of this

909
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,599
world cycle, of the yes another world cycles he gets

910
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:16,039
for higher work was. But then from him they will

911
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:22,679
be projected a certain angelic hierarchy, a certain power of

912
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:29,239
divine beings, celestial beings whom we call the Agnish what Ishies,

913
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:35,360
the Sages of the Firemists, which you call the aliens. Interesting,

914
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,360
the Sages of the Firemists have already established the hierarchy

915
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,519
eighteen and a half million years ago, and they've nurtured

916
01:04:43,559 --> 01:04:45,679
the nursery of humanity till today.

917
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:50,239
Speaker 1: Really so, they've and the.

918
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:55,199
Speaker 2: Angel of the heavenly host the ugnish Ishies. The Sages

919
01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:59,199
of the Firemists also have a lower wall lower guardian

920
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,519
of Siddhas, who are called the Guardian Wall of humanity.

921
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,880
In my video Earth Piece through Self Peace, I've shown

922
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,880
the Guardian Wall. They prevent humanity from being destroyed by

923
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,199
other cosmic forces, which are so vast that it could

924
01:05:16,239 --> 01:05:20,280
wipe humanity the face of the earth, like the dinosaurs

925
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,760
were wiped out, the lemmings were wiped out. So the

926
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:29,239
Guardian Wall does this work off silently, preserving the human seed,

927
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:33,639
which Noah did, which the Manu did, that the human

928
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:40,480
seed would live on and procreate. But the sages of

929
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:43,639
the Firemists choose to come out only after every two

930
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:49,519
thousand years. They are lofty beings beyond our reckoning. They

931
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:53,360
are our own brothers. We are the blood of their blood,

932
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,079
and the sweat of their sweat, and the tears of

933
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:58,199
their tears. We are the same. And when they reign,

934
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,519
we reign, and they dispend, many of them through the

935
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:05,559
planets and the stars are present karma of action and reaction.

936
01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:09,000
So these sages two thousand years. But in the middle

937
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,760
great masters like Yoga dar Lahary Mahasaya and the Buddha's

938
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:22,119
shang Kapa and all these great great people. Yes, Babaji

939
01:06:22,199 --> 01:06:25,239
himself was there, but he was the Watcher, and Shri Yuki,

940
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:33,559
shure Lary Mahasaya and shang Ka Pa. And another interesting

941
01:06:33,639 --> 01:06:38,079
person which is not goruction Art, but Matsindranath who is

942
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:42,360
the disciple of Gorukhat in the earthly sphere, who is

943
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:48,079
also known as Maitrea or Christ.

944
01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:50,159
Speaker 4: Interesting.

945
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:55,119
Speaker 2: I'm making this revelation. This is my experience. I don't

946
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:58,119
want any contradiction. People can have their own free experience,

947
01:06:58,159 --> 01:07:02,039
but this is a revelation. They also told the stages

948
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:05,960
of the Firemists can no not two thousand years, come

949
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:11,079
every hundred years, because humanity is getting bersark. The gunners

950
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:14,559
are not behaving and balancing themselves. You need to balance

951
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:20,400
the earth more with your gunadharma. So the gunas that

952
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,639
you imbibe in them will make a better humanity. So

953
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,800
these people, the sages of the fire Mist, will be

954
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:37,199
coming now with the person called Kulki or Christ. Another

955
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,599
name for him would be Ilias who is merged with

956
01:07:41,719 --> 01:07:46,320
Elisha in the Mount of Hebron. It was not God

957
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:55,840
Moses in Elijah. It was Moses, Ilias and Elisha. Because

958
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:03,360
Jesus that is Elijah. He told his disciples come with

959
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,800
me today on the mount of Hebron. I will show

960
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,519
you the greatest sage of all times. His name is Moses.

961
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,960
And Moses looked on and Christ went to the mount

962
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,960
of Hebron, and he said, do not sleep. Do not sleep,

963
01:08:22,079 --> 01:08:25,159
or your dear disciples, keep awake. Keep awake, because they

964
01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:27,680
were feeling drowsy, because the gravitas of the Moses and

965
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,960
this thing was so heavy upon them that there's hard

966
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,960
to keep awake. Stand stand on one leg if you

967
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,159
want so. Then when he went up and Elijah was there,

968
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:44,199
he is known as Ilius, So Moses, Ilius. They are

969
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:48,319
one of the Angelic higher than the Angelic hierarchy. They

970
01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:54,520
are the nine Elohim, one of the Elohim. So he Jesus.

971
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,920
He went up there, and there the transfiguration came, where

972
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:04,439
the transformation of Jesus became one, and he merged. Elisha

973
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:12,520
merged into Elijah. That is, Elisha merged into Ilias. These

974
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:17,600
are the aliens who Western people unknowingly called. This is

975
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,359
according to me, I don't know about the United States

976
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,000
Army when they're disclosing what they're disclosing. Due to my

977
01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:29,079
deep meditation, these people will now be coming on the

978
01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:33,319
earth to evolve humanity to the state of the Sidhra,

979
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:38,720
to the state of the perfection after twenty twenty thirty two.

980
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:43,479
And these are the aliens we call they're the blood

981
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,920
of our blood and the flesh of our flesh. Only

982
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,560
that they have gone so far in evolution beyond us,

983
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,520
three hundred six hundred million years, more evolved than us,

984
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,840
that we have to concede that, O Man, you have

985
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,800
become God, and you are God. We do not know

986
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,479
the great Unknown, because we never will, but we know

987
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,000
you as the link between us and the great unknown. Us,

988
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:12,720
the limited consciousness, You, the unlimited consciousness, are merging into

989
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,640
the know not what so the unlimited consciousness is the singularity.

990
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,840
But beyond the singularity, there's way more, way more. And

991
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,680
these are the aliens according to me, that the agneshwa Thrishis,

992
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:31,520
who have incarnated to a custodians of this earth to

993
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,239
look after this earth eighteen and a half million years

994
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:39,279
ago where humanity got its emotion and its devotion. And

995
01:10:39,319 --> 01:10:42,760
now they are coming again twenty thirty two with the Kalkiotar,

996
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,199
with the second Advent of Christ to help him in

997
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:48,800
his work. These aliens whom we miss. It's a misnomer.

998
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,880
We miscall them. Aliens will help you to evolve your body,

999
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,920
mind and soul to a divine state of a perfected being.

1000
01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:57,199
These are the aliens who I think will be coming,

1001
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,279
Not aliens with big heads and big eyes. I have

1002
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,760
seen these aliens who are the Agnish Thrishies, and I've

1003
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,680
merged into them, and I come as a servant of humanity,

1004
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,600
and I will also be working with the with the aliens,

1005
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,560
if you may call them so for better understanding. But

1006
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,279
they're the Agnish Threshies, the sages of the Firemists who

1007
01:11:16,319 --> 01:11:18,920
came in their chariots of fire eighteen and a half

1008
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,960
million years ago. They're the the They're the and Barbajee

1009
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,800
shivagoraksh is the collective consciousness of the angelic hierarchy of

1010
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:34,520
the heavenly host. He is the master, the demiurge Gruna.

1011
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: Are these beings that you're speaking of? Is that what

1012
01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:41,680
was mentioned in the in the Sumerian texts, the Anunaki.

1013
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: The anaki means just not evil, not bad, an naki

1014
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,000
not bad. I'm good. But the Anunachi were also human

1015
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:59,279
and sevent divine beings who received their power from the

1016
01:11:59,279 --> 01:12:04,560
Agnish or the Bharishadrishi's They have human feelings like us,

1017
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,279
but they are perfect in certain.

1018
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,039
Speaker 1: Ways, more evolved than obvious.

1019
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:12,279
Speaker 2: They would be more evolved in a certain way, but

1020
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:15,680
in a certain way. No, they have not liberated beings.

1021
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,399
Anunarchi are not liberated beings. They're highly evolved beings. They

1022
01:12:20,399 --> 01:12:25,560
have sidies or powers, okay, and when they have perfected

1023
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,600
those powers, they say, we are an Anaki. We have

1024
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,520
perfected these powers. And many of the ladies today I

1025
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,439
had at leave six six ladies asking me, am I

1026
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,319
an Naki? Am I a Anachy? I said, if you

1027
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:43,760
do krea yoke, you can be an Annaki and you

1028
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,680
can go beyond an Anonaki. You know what you mean

1029
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,520
beyond an an anarchy is Rodrani. The Rodrani is a

1030
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,840
is a is a is an aspect of Parvati. So

1031
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,239
the Rodrani is higher than the Anonaki. But she goes

1032
01:12:58,239 --> 01:12:59,920
into the causer in a divine state.

1033
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, in the scope of the universe,

1034
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:10,159
universe seems, at least from this the material world pretty unforgiving.

1035
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,520
I mean in the world in the sense that things

1036
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,039
are born and die on this planet every day, every creature, everything,

1037
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,239
and there doesn't seem to be a lot of I

1038
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:26,079
wouldn't say that there's not a lot of care, but

1039
01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:28,560
it's just part of a system that it seems to be,

1040
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,279
at least from our point of view, unforgiving. Animals are born,

1041
01:13:32,359 --> 01:13:36,159
animals dye, plants are born, plans or die. Earthquakes happen.

1042
01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:40,399
I mean, it just happens. Why is it that Earth

1043
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:46,199
and humanity has this guard rail, these walls to protect

1044
01:13:46,279 --> 01:13:50,479
us from other energies from around the universe. What makes

1045
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,800
us so special? Or is this something that happens to

1046
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,279
many different creatures around the universe.

1047
01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:05,239
Speaker 2: It happens to many other different souls and arthmas around

1048
01:14:05,279 --> 01:14:09,279
the world, around the universe, around the universe who are

1049
01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:13,279
living in subtler dimensions which you can't see. But to

1050
01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:19,319
call the Earth unforgiving, I do not agree. It is

1051
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:25,840
doing its work of evolution. But you see the Yogi

1052
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:31,600
takes it like this. Birth and death are mere chapters

1053
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,319
in your life story where you cast your body garment

1054
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,119
and take on another garment. Wherein are you the lesser

1055
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:44,920
by dying? You only cast your body cloak the body

1056
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,680
the man of clay. But you are essentially much better

1057
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:55,359
the God of Ray. So birth and death are mere

1058
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,640
chapters in this life story, and you, as the living

1059
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,199
spirit it of eternity, flow on.

1060
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1061
01:15:11,079 --> 01:15:12,319
and now back to the show.

1062
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: So you are stringing your many personalities of many lives.

1063
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:21,880
You have taken many bodies and cast many bodies. But

1064
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,680
all throughout this taking the bodies and casting the bodies,

1065
01:15:26,039 --> 01:15:29,319
you remain the same. I was born in the rock.

1066
01:15:29,399 --> 01:15:31,560
I died out from the rock and was born in

1067
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:35,239
the lichen and the coral reef. I died out from

1068
01:15:35,279 --> 01:15:38,359
the coral reef and was born in a fish. I

1069
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,279
died out from the fish, and I was born in

1070
01:15:40,319 --> 01:15:43,239
the crocodile and the reptile. I died out from the

1071
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:48,000
crocodile and reptile and was born as an animal, four

1072
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:50,720
legged animal. And I died out from the four legged

1073
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,640
animal of the deer and became became a stag. I

1074
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,159
died out from the stag, and I became a monkey.

1075
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,079
I'd died out from the monkey and came in a orangutang.

1076
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:06,159
Then I evolved from the orangutang to the chromagnant man,

1077
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,079
from which I ultimately became the homo Sapian man. Wherein

1078
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:13,279
did I become the lessered by dying or my Only

1079
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:17,199
my outer coats were different, But internally I was the same,

1080
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:23,640
adorning more and more expressive bodies and brain cells from

1081
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,880
where I could express the God within me more and more,

1082
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,439
until I was transformed from man the brute to man

1083
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,239
the man, to man the God.

1084
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: And when I said that the earth in the universe

1085
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:43,359
seems unforgiving, it is from the perspective of the material existence,

1086
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,039
I agree with you one hundred and time percent. It

1087
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:48,399
is just part of the part of why we're here.

1088
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,279
Speaker 2: But my book is to set this to reset the

1089
01:16:51,319 --> 01:16:54,600
thinking that I'm not a corruptible body. I'm a divine soul.

1090
01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:57,560
I'm a servant of humanity. I've been told to remind

1091
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,039
human beings every time they say that that I'm a

1092
01:17:00,119 --> 01:17:03,560
coruptible body. I'm not a corruptible body. I'm a divine soul,

1093
01:17:04,359 --> 01:17:05,159
and I'm eternal.

1094
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: Are is humanity ready for these beings to present themselves

1095
01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:12,079
in twenty thirty two?

1096
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:17,079
Speaker 2: Humanity will be ready in twenty thirty two after the

1097
01:17:17,119 --> 01:17:19,960
hell that they've been through and continue will taste a

1098
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,720
little heaven and I love that. And these these guys,

1099
01:17:26,239 --> 01:17:29,520
they are Gnish with the rashes, or you can say

1100
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:35,159
the sid the sung, the Rish is sung. These people,

1101
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,880
they will come and remove the obstacles from the minds

1102
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,199
of humanity and allow them to flow into nature towards

1103
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,760
their own divinity. And the evolution will take place after

1104
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,239
twenty thirty two of their becoming from man the man

1105
01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:53,960
to man the god. Man the brute is gone. It's finished.

1106
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,800
It's being finished. Now there will be no man, man

1107
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:03,119
the brute. But they will culture themselves and they will evolve,

1108
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,079
but not only in meditation and this thing. In arts,

1109
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,319
there will be progress. In science. There will be progress,

1110
01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:16,680
you know, in culinary arts and cooking. In a military

1111
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:17,640
warfare they will.

1112
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,199
Speaker 1: Be so we will still have military word, you.

1113
01:18:21,159 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: Will have it, but they will be negotiating on the

1114
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,399
table that the war will be Who's who's the cleverer

1115
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:32,039
chess player, So it's a refined version. Everything will be there.

1116
01:18:32,079 --> 01:18:36,479
Wrestling will be there, boxing will be there, Football will be.

1117
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: There, because that's an experience in this life. I mean,

1118
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,159
if I want to come in and be an athlete,

1119
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:45,279
and I want to, I'm gonna wanna I want to.

1120
01:18:45,359 --> 01:18:47,920
I want to a world or a reality that I

1121
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,600
can be a boxer and understand what that experience is.

1122
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,680
Like I was thinking the other day, I was sitting

1123
01:18:53,680 --> 01:19:00,800
there just thinking about the absolute, endless, infinite amount of

1124
01:19:01,279 --> 01:19:05,760
experiences a soul could have on this Earth, from how

1125
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,640
they walk in, how they come in, the caretakers they choose,

1126
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,680
the country they exist, the different career paths they can go,

1127
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:16,560
the kind of wealth or lack of wealth that they have,

1128
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,560
the kind of health or lack of health that they

1129
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:23,359
It is literally endless. It's infinite how many experiences a

1130
01:19:23,399 --> 01:19:27,560
soul can have just on this one planet, let alone.

1131
01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:31,560
Thinking about probably in my lifetime there'll be humans on

1132
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:38,159
Mars probably, so then that's a whole other experience. Imagine

1133
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:42,319
children being born on Mars, that that's their home, even

1134
01:19:42,359 --> 01:19:46,600
though they're Earthlings, they're actually Martians, And that is not

1135
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,720
science fiction. That's something that could very easily happen in

1136
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,159
my life, happen in the next twenty or thirty years,

1137
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,880
no question that I think something like that will happen

1138
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:59,439
in the next hundred. My god, it's fascinating, but I

1139
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,279
find it so remarkable how many different experiences on this

1140
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,520
little blue marble, though, is that is floating in the universe.

1141
01:20:09,079 --> 01:20:12,720
But then there is billions upon billions upon billions of

1142
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,479
other marbles out there.

1143
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,079
Speaker 2: Yes, and we're discovering them more and more.

1144
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: We can't get to them. Is that part of the

1145
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:27,479
brilliance of this design? Because you know, you and I

1146
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,039
can get on an airplane right now and go anywhere

1147
01:20:30,079 --> 01:20:33,560
in the world pretty much. We can't go to Jupiter,

1148
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,319
we can't go to Mars. We can't go to a

1149
01:20:38,319 --> 01:20:41,600
planet that's forty nine light years away or four hundred

1150
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,960
light years away. It's not doable yet. But these long

1151
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,760
distances seem to be perfect, a perfect part of the design.

1152
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:56,079
Speaker 2: If you go beyond a certain distance, Yeah, then the

1153
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:02,199
past Earth and all its design they've become at kept.

1154
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:07,800
You see, when scientist has said that how long would

1155
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,760
it take us to travel from one end of the

1156
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:18,039
universe to the other end? So the answer was never.

1157
01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:22,479
Then they said, suppose we travel a thousand times the

1158
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:28,000
speed of light. Never never, million times the speed of light.

1159
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,239
Speaker 1: It's too fast, it's too fast.

1160
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:35,159
Speaker 2: A billion times the speed of light. Then they were thinking,

1161
01:21:35,199 --> 01:21:41,359
he said, now you have begun thinking. No, twenty billion

1162
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:42,399
times the speed of light.

1163
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: It's really doesn't know, but they.

1164
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Have calculated that for a person sitting in a light capsule,

1165
01:21:52,079 --> 01:21:55,319
which is travel no longer called a light capsule because

1166
01:21:55,359 --> 01:22:01,640
it is traveling seventy billion times this of light to

1167
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:06,359
traverse the universe in three months. This is what they calculated.

1168
01:22:06,359 --> 01:22:09,479
The scientist, I mean interesting. So light is a very

1169
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,399
slow it's the snail, you know, the snail and the heir,

1170
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,720
the rabbit. So it's it's traveling so slow. Three hundred

1171
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,439
thousand kilometers per second is really very slow. If you

1172
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:25,399
want to do universal travel, well I want to see

1173
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,359
your aunt in another galaxy or something, you've got to

1174
01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:29,199
go very fast.

1175
01:22:29,399 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: So let me ask you though that what how could

1176
01:22:33,039 --> 01:22:38,119
these other beings from other universes, other galaxies, other planets

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01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,600
travel to us? Is there is there a fall like

1178
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,079
and now we're getting into quantum physics and theory, quantum

1179
01:22:46,079 --> 01:22:49,039
theory where they have to like bend the universe wormholes,

1180
01:22:49,079 --> 01:22:50,000
so things like that.

1181
01:22:50,399 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 2: Because you are dealing with the mind and considering travel

1182
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:59,560
through the mind, it would take hundreds of light years off.

1183
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:02,800
The nearest planet is about four ideas away of what

1184
01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:06,479
something like that? Asura, Yeah, is that forty or fifty

1185
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,000
something like that. Yeah, that's because you're you're you're using

1186
01:23:10,039 --> 01:23:14,760
a material object light is you're traveling in a capsule

1187
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:20,119
of a foot on. That's taking that time. Leave materialism alone,

1188
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:25,359
leave the divine mind alone, Get to consciousness, which is

1189
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:32,920
already here, there and nowhere. It is here, it is everywhere,

1190
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,560
It is nowhere, and it is now here. So there

1191
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,399
is no time limit. If you put yourself in the

1192
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:46,319
highest state of kaivally nirvan neranjan moks and make a

1193
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:49,640
sun cult before in your mind, because in that state

1194
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,279
there is no mind, that sun culp will stay and

1195
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,640
in that you will reach any place you want in

1196
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,439
no time, of course, because you have trans That's what

1197
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,640
the experiment here is going with me that I'm transmitting

1198
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,079
to all these people at the same time. If I

1199
01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:10,079
was traveling, I would transmit quicker to you and later

1200
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:13,439
to a person in Japan. But the japan person gets

1201
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,760
the transmission at the same time as you. That means

1202
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:21,560
the consciousness that I am is not traveling. It's already

1203
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,079
everywhere on the globe in the universe. It is that

1204
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:27,520
person who opens the window in the consciousness rushes it

1205
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,199
iss like a car which is drowning in water. You

1206
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:32,439
open the window of the water, will Russian. That's the

1207
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,720
consciousness of the sub group. He's already there available for you.

1208
01:24:36,079 --> 01:24:39,359
So in time traveling cosmic space, if you end that awareness,

1209
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,239
you can be everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

1210
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:45,239
This is the new physics.

1211
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 1: It is, it is now, Gurnav. I'm afraid to ask this,

1212
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:53,039
but I'm going to. Can we do a meditation a

1213
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:55,760
transmission to because I don't know if I can handle it.

1214
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,079
But why I am afraid of asking you?

1215
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:01,319
Speaker 2: But we can do a meditation if you're If the

1216
01:25:01,359 --> 01:25:03,600
people are open and they want it, I'm there to

1217
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:04,119
serve them.

1218
01:25:04,359 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna hold on tight.

1219
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,239
Speaker 2: Because I'm not doing a meditation. I'm doing them.

1220
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1221
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,399
Speaker 2: I am them, but not their physical body. I am

1222
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:18,479
the common Goddess sense in them, which is also in me.

1223
01:25:19,039 --> 01:25:22,199
So if I spread out in common guard Awness and

1224
01:25:22,279 --> 01:25:25,159
they open a window for me, I will contact with

1225
01:25:25,239 --> 01:25:28,720
their God of Veness in a sense of peace, a

1226
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:29,880
great sense of peace.

1227
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So I am. I am here for you, sir.

1228
01:25:34,039 --> 01:25:35,960
Tell me what you need us to do to do this.

1229
01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 2: So what I can do is I can give you,

1230
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:41,359
give them a meditation, please, they want a guided.

1231
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,199
Speaker 1: One or a guided one is always good. Yeah, even

1232
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:45,199
if it is something small. I'll close my eyes and

1233
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:48,960
everyone could just tell everybody what to do, how to sit.

1234
01:25:49,079 --> 01:25:53,600
If they're driving, stop, wait till later, you know, wait

1235
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,560
till you're in a comfortable place to kind.

1236
01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:57,239
Speaker 2: Of, and then I'll give them a big hug.

1237
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,159
Speaker 1: So, yes, after the meditation, give everybody big cosmic hug.

1238
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,119
Speaker 2: If I give a cosmic hug, they will be feel squeezed.

1239
01:26:04,359 --> 01:26:06,720
They will feel the energy around them. If they are aware,

1240
01:26:07,079 --> 01:26:09,359
they will feel my hug. And they if they if

1241
01:26:09,359 --> 01:26:13,199
they put both arms together, if they fold their arms,

1242
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,039
they will feel the hug. Okay, this is important to

1243
01:26:17,079 --> 01:26:21,680
show that humanity is evolving. And we aliens who come

1244
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,840
to you, we aliens can hug you from any distance.

1245
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,319
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, my dear alien.

1246
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Yes to And if they if they want to know

1247
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:35,119
what an alien looks like, they can look at me.

1248
01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:38,720
Alien can look like Moses, he can look like Vussity

1249
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,439
can look like any chriss. This bearded, this thing fits

1250
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:44,680
on all the rolls.

1251
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,520
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, Okay, I am ready for you,

1252
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:48,319
my friend.

1253
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go into meditation.

1254
01:26:50,000 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 4: Now okay, oh m om om bra.

1255
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 2: Brah Brah Macarma samadinam Swaha. Now sit still, let go

1256
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:42,079
of all inhibition, drop the ego. Sit relaxed, keep your

1257
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:49,439
spine straightened upright and your shoulders drooping. Relax the jaw

1258
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:56,960
and face muscles, and sitcom I'm taking you on a

1259
01:27:57,039 --> 01:28:04,680
meditation called the Way of the White Swan. Sit calm

1260
01:28:07,159 --> 01:28:10,840
and close your eyes, keep them open if you like,

1261
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,000
and visualize your body as the temple of your soul.

1262
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,920
Your body is a vehicle, it's not you. The soul

1263
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,760
in the shape of a swan that is like a

1264
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,840
five pointed star, is in the midpoint of your eyebrows.

1265
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,720
The soul with its two wings spread out, its two

1266
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,600
legs that's foe, and its neck towards the sky that

1267
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,640
is a five pointed humsar swan. Humsar means the soul

1268
01:28:43,159 --> 01:28:46,199
I am that I am God. The swan is the

1269
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:49,119
symbol of the soul which you are. Your body is

1270
01:28:49,159 --> 01:28:52,359
a temple, and the white swan resides in your third eye.

1271
01:28:55,079 --> 01:29:01,680
Now slowly visualize it flapping its wings, going higher and

1272
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,039
higher till it perches on the top of your head

1273
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,640
on the Fontainelli in the middle, on the top of

1274
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,159
your head, on the steeple of your body temple is

1275
01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:14,399
the white swan that you are. And then from there

1276
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,359
you flap your wings and go higher and higher and

1277
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:26,760
higher towards the moon. Now you, as the white Swan,

1278
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,319
are drinking the nectar of the moon. The soam rushs

1279
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,520
the embroisier of the moon with your enulation. You are

1280
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:39,279
drinking the embroisier of the moon. After having done so,

1281
01:29:40,079 --> 01:29:44,600
you proceed from the top of your head. You are

1282
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:51,119
flying higher and higher and higher. And as I have said,

1283
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,319
you have reached the center of the moon.

1284
01:29:56,119 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 3: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor.

1285
01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:03,680
And now back to the shell.

1286
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:11,399
Speaker 2: Where you are drinking the embroiser of the moon. Then

1287
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:16,039
you penetrate your head and go higher and higher into

1288
01:30:16,119 --> 01:30:24,279
the deep starry skies. You are the humsa swan flying

1289
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,800
with your eternal wings in the deep space, starry space

1290
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,960
of the skies, your taste of the freedom of the Lord.

1291
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,840
And as you flap your wings, you the soul sworn

1292
01:30:38,039 --> 01:30:45,520
the Humsar, studded with the stars, bejeweled wings ablaze and

1293
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:54,439
bound to boundless land of ever wondrous peace.

1294
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:55,159
Speaker 4: And joy.

1295
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:05,039
Speaker 2: And as you flowhigher and higher you fly, your wings

1296
01:31:05,119 --> 01:31:10,399
take on a golden tinge, burnished gold. As you fly

1297
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:15,960
towards the divine suria the Sun, your body becomes gold.

1298
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,880
As you merge into the center of the Sun and breathe.

1299
01:31:21,159 --> 01:31:24,920
The wisdom of the universe is within the Sun. You

1300
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:32,119
have taken the love and nectar outtake the wisdom inhal you.

1301
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,079
The golden Swan is absorbed in the center of the

1302
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:43,800
suria the Sun. And after having drunk the wisdom of

1303
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,319
the world, you penetrate the orb of the Sun by

1304
01:31:47,399 --> 01:31:51,119
flying higher and higher. Now you go into the deeper

1305
01:31:51,239 --> 01:31:58,119
space of consciousness. It is a rare consciousness. And as

1306
01:31:58,199 --> 01:32:03,039
you fly into deep space, your wings spread from eternity

1307
01:32:03,119 --> 01:32:06,600
to eternity, and you taste of the free spirit of

1308
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:12,760
the Lord. And you fly higher and higher. Your wings

1309
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:18,279
have expanded from eternity to eternity. Your mind is still

1310
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:25,279
like a still lake with no ripples of thought. And

1311
01:32:25,399 --> 01:32:28,520
now your mind and the form of the sworan and

1312
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:34,680
its wings melt away. You are pure awareness, pure consciousness,

1313
01:32:35,359 --> 01:32:41,520
and with this awareness you enter another dimension of divine consciousness,

1314
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:48,920
no form, no thought, absolute silence and bliss. I am

1315
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:53,479
there for you as the presence. Your consciousness and my

1316
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:59,760
consciousness is one. My identity is bliss. My identity is

1317
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:06,159
divine consciousness and bliss. Thought free, you are thought free

1318
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:16,079
and calm. High up in the heavens and beyond, you

1319
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:21,560
are bathing in divine consciousness of God. But without a

1320
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:31,640
form and without a thought. You are pure awareness, absolute,

1321
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:43,479
still and calm. You are divine consciousness. You are healed

1322
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:55,119
of all material malady. You are divine consciousness. Come share,

1323
01:33:55,199 --> 01:34:02,000
my Samadi. The still goddisance in me is also the

1324
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:08,880
still goddessance in you. I am assisting you to become

1325
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:15,720
me and become the divine, and to become yourself as

1326
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:25,279
the divine pure awareness. And higher and higher you go

1327
01:34:25,399 --> 01:34:34,479
into pure regions of nothingness and divine consciousness. That is

1328
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:40,880
your true nature. You are one with the Lord and

1329
01:34:41,039 --> 01:34:47,720
now inhale gently divine love and form of vortics of

1330
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,920
the stillness of our cash from the stillness of consciousness,

1331
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:56,239
and you come lower and lower, you descend in that vortex.

1332
01:34:57,239 --> 01:35:02,399
It's a world, Come blw and this is the first spun,

1333
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:09,000
the first vibration from nothingness into something. And as you

1334
01:35:09,119 --> 01:35:14,840
forecome lower and lower, your wings appear, your beak appear.

1335
01:35:15,039 --> 01:35:18,840
Your appear as the divine swan, having touched the feet

1336
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,880
of the Lord, and you become a swan as you

1337
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,199
descend lower and lower, and you fly into the deep

1338
01:35:26,279 --> 01:35:36,880
starry skies, lower and lower, and then you pass through

1339
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:41,239
the divine orbit of the Sun where you drunk the nectar.

1340
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,840
Having gone past the Sun, you get into the moon

1341
01:35:49,359 --> 01:35:54,199
where you drink the som that is the divine nectar

1342
01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:54,760
of the Moon.

1343
01:35:57,279 --> 01:35:58,159
Speaker 1: You are in the moon.

1344
01:35:58,279 --> 01:36:04,159
Speaker 2: Now you go lower and lower and sit at the

1345
01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:07,359
top of your head, the steeple of your body temple.

1346
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,439
Sit at the top of your head. You the white Swan,

1347
01:36:12,319 --> 01:36:23,520
flood your body with the rainbow colored light of love, wisdom,

1348
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:29,119
and truth. You are now transferred to your physical body.

1349
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,279
You are healed and complete on your way to the

1350
01:36:36,359 --> 01:36:56,000
divine realization. Inhale love, Hold love. Look to the left.

1351
01:36:57,239 --> 01:37:09,960
Exhale love through the mouth. Get back to the top

1352
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:18,800
of your head and to the third eye. Now and

1353
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:25,760
now open your eyes and relax. Maybe it's a little

1354
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:31,760
deep to you. Don't get up immediately. I've disclosed. This

1355
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:39,359
is the disclosure. I have disclosed my pure arthma consciousness

1356
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:44,159
to you. You are sharing my consciousness because you and

1357
01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:49,439
my consciousness are one. We are beyond our material, corruptible body.

1358
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:54,279
We are divine souls. At the level of consciousness, humanity

1359
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:59,279
is one. I am tending to go up again into

1360
01:37:59,359 --> 01:38:02,880
my summer, which is very deep, that you do not

1361
01:38:03,039 --> 01:38:06,880
have to follow me. Come down, Come down, Come down,

1362
01:38:08,199 --> 01:38:13,520
Spirit of the Lord, Oh Alien, come down, Alien, whom

1363
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:19,439
we call ma'athma. God is not alien to us. Neither

1364
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,119
is the event horise in the sad Guru alien to us.

1365
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,800
Here is the core of our innermost being. He is

1366
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:31,880
the life of our livingness. Divine and now in haale love,

1367
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:47,199
hold love, exhale love, inhale love, hold love, exhale. Open

1368
01:38:47,279 --> 01:38:57,319
your eyes, open your eyes and relax. Take the spiritual

1369
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:01,720
energy in your hands. Create the balsam of the sun

1370
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:07,680
and the moon and smear your face with it. Take

1371
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:14,279
the balsam divine right to your head, behind your ears,

1372
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:19,600
index finger in your years and then fling them out

1373
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:27,520
with a zing sound. The rubbing of the hands to

1374
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:32,239
create spiritual energy is important. Also, go to grab the

1375
01:39:32,279 --> 01:39:41,680
divine complexion and the Lord God permeates the whole show.

1376
01:39:43,199 --> 01:39:44,439
There's nothing he is not.

1377
01:39:51,399 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Well.

1378
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,319
Speaker 2: I was in this went a little too deep. I

1379
01:39:54,399 --> 01:39:56,439
don't know how the people. I don't know how the

1380
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:57,640
people are going to take.

1381
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't either. I barely held on my so it would.

1382
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Be surprised when people will really go off, tell them

1383
01:40:03,319 --> 01:40:03,960
not to drive and.

1384
01:40:04,399 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, the everyone. Yeah, I already said

1385
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,439
that before. Please stop driving, don't do that fetal cause

1386
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:14,920
if they want exactly bumping an astro. So I'll tell you, well,

1387
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,039
first of all, I wasn't expecting it that deep, that long.

1388
01:40:17,239 --> 01:40:18,680
I thought it was going to be like the last

1389
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:20,720
time it was like a five minute little you know.

1390
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,199
Speaker 2: Kind of energy ten fifteen minutes.

1391
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:27,319
Speaker 1: This was a about twenty minutes. Yeah, So we would to.

1392
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 2: Leave it because at the end they can neither cut

1393
01:40:30,039 --> 01:40:31,800
it off or they can carry on with Oh it's

1394
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:32,720
absolutely no, I don't know.

1395
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere. It's staying. Don't worry. Don't you worry.

1396
01:40:37,079 --> 01:40:40,239
The the energy that I felt during it, So I

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got to a place where I was and I've been

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meditating for about eight years now, I've got to a

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place where I started to feel things that I feel

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when I go into a deep meditation. But I was

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able to get there much quicker. This happened to me,

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if it's happened to me multiple times in my meditations.

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But my breath starts to shallow to a point where

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I'm barely breathing. I'm just there. And then I start

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realizing what's happening. Images that are coming into my brain

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or my mind, the third eye, the pressure, the waves

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that I felt last time, I felt this time. Even

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my voice. You can hear my voice. Got why is

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my voice hoarse all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: It's some curing process because when the awarness is there,

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it cures all the rough ages, round it off. When

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you're taking my awarness, it does the curing. It's everything

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leading to perfection. Yeah, because one of that is happening

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to you is leading upwards.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can literally hear my voices. I couldn't

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do this if I tried, So something physically happened to

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me during this meditation that my voice is completely different.

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And I haven't been yelling or screaming, So I don't

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know why my voice is hoarse. This has happened before,

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or I have felt this before in certain meditations and

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certain things that I've done that all of a sudden,

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I come back in my voice is hoarse. I feel

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energetic now. I didn't a minute ago, but now I

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feel like a burst of like I just trans some coffee.

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I feel energetic now. Where this has been a roller coaster,

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We're not. This entire year conversation has been a roller

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coaster for me. I've been like right, it has been

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so much. I'm giddy. I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Very powerful, very very powerful, and very powerful. But those

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people will get it more powerful than you because the

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more the distance, the more the gravity increases. Then so

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I just hope they don't. But you're taken care of.

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They don't go out and.

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Speaker 1: Drive right, No, everyone needs to everyone needs to please.

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Speaker 2: They still don't be aware Freeze.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel high. I feel I've never been high,

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but I feel high, but high on my own supply.

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As they say, Goobern not where I'll try to finish

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this conversation. Where can people find out more about you

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in your amazing work?

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Speaker 2: The first thing they can find out more about me

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that when I come for the podcast, person like Alex Ferrari,

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he would tell them my location, I will and the

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time I'm having this this this such sung and Atman

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are the retreat. Yeah, you're doing retreats now, a retreat?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the next one?

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Speaker 2: The next one will be I think in Shasta that

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is the next one. And the last one, which is

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a very very high caliber, will be in San Diego, Okay.

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Speaker 1: And I will put the links in the in the

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show notes for everybody to be able to follow if

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they want to, if they want to come and experience

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what I just experienced.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, experience pretty deep.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you one last question. If this were

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the last conversation you could ever have with humanity, what

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would you want every soul to remember from this last

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statement that you're going to say, which I've already said,

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But is there anything else? The last thing you would

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like to say? You've said many things. I'm trying to

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hold on myself.

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Speaker 2: I The last thing I would say to humanity is nothing,

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because I would make them sit in front of me

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and give them an experience of the goddessnce that is

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my awareness, my goddessance which is around them. Take them

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01:44:46,359 --> 01:44:50,520
on the flight to the everywhere and the nowhere and

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make them experience the goddessans the awareness which you are

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experiencing now. That would be the best thing I could

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do rather than say anything, make them experience God. Be

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still and know that you are God.

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Speaker 1: Gun. It is always a pleasure and honor having you

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in the studio with me. I feel very blessed. I

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feel very humbled to be here with you, my friend.

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So thank you for not only being here and sharing

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your energy.

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Speaker 2: Sharing myself. Yeah, sharing yourself energy is my lower self.

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I myself went into you. I shared myself with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I laid my life on the line for people who

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want to walk across that line to the divine. I

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have laid my life on the line for those people

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who want to walk on that line to the divine.

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Speaker 1: Gruna, thank you so much for being here, and thank

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you for their service to humanity that you have done

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all your life.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I thank you and humanity for allowing me

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to serve you with all my heart and soul.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll

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