WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.040 I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekanona Show. 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:06.440 I'm back here with Thomas. It's been a little while. 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:08.720 How are you doing all right? 4 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:12.400 I was quite ill for a spell. That owes to 5 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:16.920 my I mean, my absence owes to that as well 6 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:20.760 as you know, not my not dropping content in particularly 7 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:24.719 timely manner. But I think I'm out of the woods, Okay, 8 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:27.480 I mean a gottape. I'm going to the Meter conference 9 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.960 this weekend. But I appreciate you hosting me man as always. 10 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:34.399 What I want to get into, what I want to 11 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.640 get into today, and of course you're the boss of 12 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:43.920 this program. I want to discuss how there's a nascent 13 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:50.320 sort of revisionist Uh, there's a nas intolerance for a 14 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:54.640 revisionist scholarship about Adolf Hitler. Okay, that I think is undeniable. 15 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.640 I'm talking about, you know, in in corridors where that 16 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.880 was not tolerated whatsoever, you know, even a decade or 17 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.680 a decade and a half ago. And it's very interesting 18 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.359 that always to a lot of factors that owes to 19 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:13.959 the Second World War truly fading from living memory, you know, 20 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:19.239 it owes to the kind of democratization of university resources 21 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:24.560 it owes to you know, the complete and total absence 22 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:30.200 of a bully pulpit that academ in you know, in 23 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:36.200 conjunction with media used to enjoy and you know, facilitated 24 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.879 a really kind of complete and total capability to dominate 25 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:46.359 the conceptual landscape. You know, not not just enforce you know, 26 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:49.359 strictures on what's considered to be an acceptable opinion, but 27 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:55.680 quite literally control the conceptual narrative, you know. I mean 28 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.599 people find that hard to believe now that that could 29 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.719 be done. But I mean think pre Internet. I think 30 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.879 when any media you can assume it's truly passive. You know, 31 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.879 you don't select the programming, and your your your access 32 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:11.520 to data really is limited to what you can find 33 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:14.960 at your local library, you know, or library system. But 34 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:19.280 it's interesting because I would have I would have thought 35 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.240 it would be the opposite within the bounded rationale of 36 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.960 or a visioness enterprise, a software business enterprise. Relating to 37 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:28.719 the Third Reich, I would have thought that the Nazi 38 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.520 Party would have been somehow rehabilitated in terms of oh, 39 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:34.319 these are just ignorant people or some such thing. But 40 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.840 you know, Hitler was this sort of evil songali type 41 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:41.400 who who's who swept them up. And in this you know, 42 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:46.560 sort of miasma of evil and madness, it's really kind 43 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.199 of the opposite. You know, a lot of these treatments 44 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:56.240 have a very very punitive view of the party and 45 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:59.759 of its loyalists, and they're certainly not friendly to Adolf Hitler, 46 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:03.719 but they they normalize him, and within the context of 47 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:10.240 historicists discussion of his life and times and and and 48 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:15.120 career as a war as a politician, and as a warlord. 49 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:20.280 Most recently twenty nineteen, this book Hitler at Global Biography 50 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:27.759 by Brendan Simms. This is an important book, and specifically 51 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:32.879 at dovetails with something I've written about rather extensively. That is, 52 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:37.280 it's my belief that Itolf Hitler believed America to be 53 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:42.280 his primary adversary. He believed Roosevelt was his personal enemy. 54 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.159 He believed in America was you know, new deal America, 55 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.080 you know, as as America had become constitutive if a 56 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:52.120 nine thirty three revolution. Hitler viewed that his permanent and 57 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.240 he wasn't wrong. He viewed America as the as the 58 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:01.000 as the foe of Europe, and uh, he viewed it 59 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:07.159 as this still essence of you know, kind of the 60 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:14.120 the the uh, like the Jewish perspective on on political life, 61 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:19.759 you know, and kind of like the penultimate expression of 62 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:25.040 of of of Jewish social engineering, you know, rit large 63 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:27.959 like people turn around and say, you know, you can't 64 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:32.600 say that, you know, the entire raison detra of the 65 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:39.000 NSDAP was was was anti Bolshevism, and its emergence owed 66 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.360 one hundred percent to you know, the emergence of revolutionary communism. 67 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:48.279 You know, so you can't discuss this discrete quantity, you know, 68 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:57.480 contra America that developed, according you know to geostrategic challenges 69 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:06.720 and ideological discourse somehow unrelated to that, you know, and 70 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:11.920 and and and and came to you know, identify America 71 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.839 as as as the primary adversary. I want to get 72 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.199 into my rebuttal to that today in terms of what 73 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:23.720 actually happened, you know, rather than counter factuals. And we're 74 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.600 gonna cover a little bit of familiar ground. But I 75 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.800 figured today you know, i'll kind of address you know, 76 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:32.519 I'll kind of present rebuttals to what I think on 77 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:36.680 the main objections to that perspective. I just I just 78 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:42.439 explained the second episode, the second part you know, well, uh, 79 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.959 we'll talk about Hitler contra Roosevelt and the kind of 80 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:51.759 direct hostile discourse between the two, you know, Roosevelt's radio 81 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:55.399 addresses and Hitler's radio addresses. They were they were obviously 82 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:59.040 in direct dialogue with each other, and it's fascinating. And 83 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:06.800 then finally, you know how I want to get into 84 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:12.000 some comparing, comparing and contrasting, you know, in direct kind 85 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:17.560 of in direct capacity, you know, of textual criticism, you know, 86 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:22.319 like the Sims book and books like RHS. Stolphie is 87 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:27.240 fantastic biographia. Hitler called Hitler beyond evil and tyranny and 88 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.199 John Toland, who I believe wrote the kind of seminal 89 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.680 buyer for Madolf Hitler. I part ways to them on 90 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:39.279 some claims, and we'll get into that later. Toland, I mean, 91 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.519 you know, and I know I know that he I 92 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.720 know that, I know that I'm Toland accepted some aspects 93 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:51.680 of court the court history, the court history narrative, and 94 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:55.199 the Nuremberg narrative that people find highly objectionable. But you know, 95 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.759 the astute for historical review when they were quite a 96 00:06:57.800 --> 00:06:59.879 bit harder line. Are you leaving there today? You know, 97 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:03.839 like hosted him on multiple occasions the guy wasn't you know, 98 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.680 some milk toast And he wasn't you know some he was. 99 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:12.360 He wasn't just some some some national review type you know, 100 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:15.639 trying to trying to score points by you know, writing 101 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.399 an edgy book and you know, during the deton era 102 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:19.399 or something. 103 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.680 But I wanted to ask the question before we go 104 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:27.720 on to Sims reference Hitler's second book A Lot. Yeah, 105 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.879 can you address the people who think that it is 106 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:33.560 not legitimate? 107 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:37.079 Yeah, because every day idiots tell me things are fake. 108 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.759 The girl's areas are fake, mine comp's fake. Hitler's second 109 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.319 book is fake. You know, Mike Dick is fake. The 110 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:44.879 moon landing is fake. The air we breathe is fake. 111 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.959 Like I was fucking retarded. I'm sick of it. Like 112 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.199 it's not it's not fake, you know, like at some 113 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:53.279 point people have to accept that reality is what it 114 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.920 appears to be, you know. And somehow, somehow the second 115 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:04.279 book tracks exactly what with Hitler related to confidence, particularly 116 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.680 you know, to Gebbels to uh has you know, long 117 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:15.199 before the most critical phases that war ensued. Obviously, you know, 118 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.399 things that he disclosed to Spear, who I Spear was 119 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:20.959 a real weasel, but he was. You know, that doesn't 120 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.759 mean you discount every single thing he said as being 121 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:27.680 as being some some self serving lie like at all 122 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:33.000 own it. I'm sure that sounded puerile, but like I I, 123 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.240 I am so sick of people just declaring things to 124 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:38.799 be faked, you know, like I it's it's like it's 125 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:44.600 like a mental illness or something, you know, people. That's 126 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:46.240 why I object to not for the tangent, but I 127 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.240 don't like the whole like red pill metaphor, because it's 128 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:52.200 like it's just it's just it's this idea that everybody's 129 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.879 kind of diddy bopping around like an idiot. Then they 130 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:57.159 come to some like special knowledge that like things are 131 00:08:57.320 --> 00:08:59.399 what they appear to be, Like they all of a 132 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.440 sudden real that like maybe everything they see on CNN 133 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.320 isn't true, you know, and that's the rid pill. So 134 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.279 then if that they decided like literally everything on this 135 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.559 planet is fake, you know, like Hitler was fake. He 136 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.039 worked for Wall Street and the builder Bergs put him there, 137 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:14.919 and you know, World War two was fake, and then 138 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:16.840 the Cold War was fake, you know, so you know, 139 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:18.519 in the fake moon landing was part of the fake 140 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.799 Cold War that's it's it's it's really really really really stupid. 141 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:25.600 Like it's how it's how really stupid people kind of 142 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:28.279 like make sense of a world that confuses them. You know. 143 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:30.639 It's like these hood guys will claim that like he 144 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.200 heaps and treat fruit punch like makes you sterile, and 145 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:34.759 you're like, that doesn't make any sense, Like not a 146 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.639 dog it do it do? It's literally the same thing. 147 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:40.639 It's like just as fucking stupid. You know, they're okay, fine, 148 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:43.559 everything is fake. All right, I'm an idiot and everything's fake, 149 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:45.720 so don't watch. 150 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:50.000 All right, Well, let's get into it. 151 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.320 I think there's like Hitler in terms of his character 152 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.559 that's misrepresented by people like Alan Block, by people like 153 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:02.480 kersh uh really about kind of the seminal Like mainstream 154 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:06.679 historians of Hitler, they cast him as this kind of 155 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:10.679 provincial rube who was not an old worldly you know, 156 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:15.879 and you know kind of had no understanding of power, 157 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:19.960 political affairs outside of you know, this narrow corner literally 158 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.840 of the kind of of of the Hassery Empire where 159 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.080 he was raised. You know, this kind of this kind 160 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:30.720 of underdeveloped, you know, sort of failing by the time 161 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:34.039 he was born like monarchists, dinosaur, you know, that was 162 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.960 that was racked by like ethnic conflict and and things 163 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.039 and that kind of arcane political structures, you know, and 164 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.919 and and intrigues and dead as they're in. That's not 165 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.639 at all the case. It was very very rare for 166 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.519 people in Hitler's epoch to travel overseas, you know, like 167 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:54.480 for example, it was like a big deal when like 168 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:59.840 Wilson went to Europe. You know, Hitler himself also and 169 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:04.600 uh Is Kuzabek and and his sister Relayed. Hitler was 170 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:07.120 in love with like American stuff when he was like 171 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.200 when he was a little kid. Hitler's two passions were reading, 172 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:14.120 and he constantly would pour over maps with his colored pencils. 173 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:17.960 He was obsessed with geography and cartography and sketching out 174 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:21.519 with his pencils, you know, battle scenarios of you know, 175 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.240 the Napoleonic Wars and you know the Franco Prussian Wars 176 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.519 and like these great conflicts he'd read about. But he 177 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:29.639 loved reading about cowboys and Indians and like playing cowboys 178 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:35.399 and Indians. And something I found hilarious is, you know 179 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.799 the wheat Croft collection that that that eccentric englishman from 180 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:44.960 Central Casting Wheatcroft, who's got the most extensive collection of 181 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.679 third rite artifacts on this planet, from you know, like 182 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:52.679 Hitler busts to uh pans or tanks and everything in between. 183 00:11:53.720 --> 00:12:00.559 I guess when the Berghoff was dynamited, there was still 184 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:06.799 the basement areas one could access and bergo and we 185 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.720 Croft and his buddy they went there. They repelled down, 186 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.679 you know, into the basement area. I mean, they're lucky 187 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.279 didn't collapse on them. And there was like a game 188 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.120 room there, you know, like I guess there was like this, 189 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.320 there was a bowling alley, but everywhere there was like 190 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.840 Coca Cola signs and like a Coca Cola vending machine. 191 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.639 And I guess we crossed buddies, Like wasn't this like 192 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.039 nuts and we cross Like No, Hitler loved Coca Cola. 193 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.159 You know, his favorite movie was King Kong. You know 194 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:38.919 he uh Hitler had fought the Americans, you know as 195 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:42.559 uh as uh as a Lonza in in the Reichs 196 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:50.039 and and in the Kaiser's Army. Okay, Hitler wasn't like 197 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.919 ignorant of America or something or like just viewed it 198 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.799 as you know, like in the way like some provincial European, 199 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.240 you know, full of sort of small minded and small 200 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:05.159 town of prejudice. His would and what he began saying 201 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:13.480 to his one time confident uh Putsi Hofstangle. Hofstangle was 202 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.759 one of the even after the even after the ram 203 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:22.360 Purge hop Stangle, he was one of the people who 204 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.399 was a you know, at least party adjacent, if not 205 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:31.480 you know, truly insinuated into the into the end of 206 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:33.759 the inner circleabal of fighters. You know, he was in 207 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.480 that orbit, and he'd speak freely to Hitler, and he 208 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.360 was constantly trying to sway Hitler away from viewing the 209 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:46.519 Soviet Union as something that had to be destroyed. And 210 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:50.240 Rosenberg hated him, and both men seem to think they 211 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.639 get somehow like sway the fewer of their perspective out 212 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.919 of Russia. You know, obviously Rosenberg this you know, violently 213 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.919 punitive view of Russia, which is totally understandable him being 214 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:05.480 a Baltic German. And Hoshtengle said to Hitler that, you know, 215 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:08.120 it would be a fool's error and for any you know, 216 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:12.159 for any for any world, or or any you know, 217 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:14.879 to to make war in the Soviet Union. You know, 218 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:18.039 that'd be an unwinnable war, and Hitler said no, no. 219 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.120 Hitler said, uh, that would be an essential war. An 220 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.120 unwinnable war would be against the United States. When it awakens, 221 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.039 the United States is going to rule this planet. You know, 222 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:36.639 I'm paraphrasing, but in the second book he talks about 223 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.519 how America possesses quite literally fifty percent of this planet's 224 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.639 you know, natural resources. Hitler himself had he had an 225 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:52.360 uncanny ability to take reams of data and take conceptual 226 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:57.120 and and take conceptual sets of data that don't really 227 00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:00.120 lend themselves to you know, translating into inputs. And he 228 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.440 had this kind of way of understanding how these things 229 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:07.600 translate the power political variables, you know, both concrete and 230 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:15.440 behavioral and everything else. Hitler viewed the United States. Says, 231 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.080 this burgaining superpower unlike anything the world had ever seen. 232 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:26.480 And in terms of the American people, one of the 233 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.720 things Sims drives home and this makes me so happy, 234 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:32.759 because I've been saying this for ages, and people claim 235 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:36.279 it's like a quote quote unquote cope right apologia. Keitler 236 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.480 did not view the German people as some master race 237 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.759 as they existed in nineteen thirty three. He thought Germany 238 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:47.159 was in terrible shape. He said, you know, the thirty 239 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.720 years wore smashed Germany into pieces literally, you know. And 240 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.039 he's like, in sixteen forty eight, our population was scattered 241 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:58.080 to the four Wins. You know, we like lost who 242 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:01.080 we were, you know, like the best of our the 243 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:04.519 best of our mentioned material was was in the grave, 244 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:07.519 you know. And he's like, there was this kind of 245 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.759 like this. You had a bunch of uh, you know, 246 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:11.960 you had a bunch of people made war refugees who 247 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.799 had been made into like refugees, you know, who are 248 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:18.240 basically forcely assimilated into you know, by by the you know, 249 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.600 by by these by these slavonic peoples that they then 250 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:24.720 had to live among after being banned from banish from 251 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.440 their own land, you know. And he said, after that, 252 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:34.879 you know, Germany, even uh, even after unification, you know, 253 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:38.960 Germany is slightly smaller than Wyoming, you know, in power 254 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.759 political terms, Germany is a tiny country with no with 255 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.759 no natural resources, like all it has is its people. 256 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:50.039 And you know, from the turn of the nineteenth century 257 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:57.559 until the immigration reform Acts of nineteen twenty four, something 258 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.559 like five point nine million Germans had left in Germany 259 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.320 for the United States. You know, Hitler said like these 260 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:05.400 were our best people. You know, He's like, they were 261 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:07.759 the people who could survive a journey, you know, which 262 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:09.880 in those days was no small thing. You had to 263 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:12.160 be a robust person. You know. These are the guys 264 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.480 gonna handle, you know, like weathering poverty and terrible hardship 265 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.640 for years of need be to build something. You know. 266 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.920 These are the guys who weren't afraid to literally look 267 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.839 at a location on a map and say, I'm going 268 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.680 to travel thousands of miles away in some cases, you know, 269 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:30.200 and live on this new continent. You know. Hitler's like 270 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.839 what was left in Europe? You know, He's like or 271 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.119 people who were just like weaker in mind and spirit, 272 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.240 or people had been like left behind by history. It 273 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.160 goes on to say, and only to the fact, you know, 274 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.880 Hitler knew Americans. He fought them. He said, like, you know, 275 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.160 when I fought these people, when we fought these people, 276 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.799 you know, he's like, they're these large, robust people, you know, 277 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:53.880 and he's like compared to them, you know, he was 278 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.519 like real like this kind of like sinewy weaklings who 279 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.960 get knocked out by rifle fire. You know, He's like, 280 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.079 these guys could take shit to the chest and like 281 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:03.839 in some cases recover. You know, he's like it was, 282 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.880 He's like, we didn't stand a chance in nineteen eighteen 283 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.680 being bled white as we had like fighting like you know, 284 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.240 the American Army, you know, the book which in those 285 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.079 days was made up of a bunch of German people, 286 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:16.839 you know, by by race, if you want to look 287 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.880 at like that. Okay, So this was this was Hitler's perspective. 288 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:25.000 You know. It wasn't uh, America sucks. You know, it's weak, 289 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.640 it's misigenated. You know, the Germans are the best people 290 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:32.200 on earth. It was the opposite. It was we're dying out, 291 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:35.759 and the only way we cannot die out is through 292 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:39.759 this kind of top down process of pelagenesis, part of 293 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.759 which is spiritual, you know, part of which is is 294 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.319 historical in nature, you know, part of which is physical 295 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:51.200 and biological quite literally, you know, part of which is 296 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:55.680 a matter of social engineering. But of such a nature 297 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:58.119 that's going to have organic residents, and isn't you know, 298 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:01.799 just some sort of contrived isn't just some sort of 299 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:05.599 contrived political program, you know, like emerging from the minds 300 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:09.920 of of of you know, a of a of a 301 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.359 minute of an information ministry or something. So this is 302 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:19.759 where this is where Hitler was coming from. And I 303 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:24.319 want to add two. And Sims makes this point in 304 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:28.119 both mind comp and the second book. Hitler does not 305 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:32.880 He barely even mentions black people. He says that he 306 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:35.200 has some punitive things to say about the American South 307 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:39.279 because he said that importing he said, importing thousands or 308 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:45.680 millions of of of of Negro or Aboriginal slaves. He said, 309 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:50.279 that's called barbaric. You know, he didn't so much mean 310 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:52.519 it's like mean to enslaved people. And he didn't mean 311 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.319 that at all. Like he meant that, you know, having 312 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.599 this like massive slave population that's not as similable. You 313 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:04.400 know that in some places outnumbers you know, the you know, 314 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:08.160 the the master casts. I mean that there's literally perverse, 315 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:14.480 you know. And he uh, beyond that, and mind comp 316 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.519 he makes some passing reference to how, you know, they 317 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:24.599 kind of the kind of universality of cultural identity and 318 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.960 you know kind of like kind of like rudimentary religion, 319 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:29.839 no matter how primitive it can be, and it may be. 320 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:32.000 And he said that like, you know, people even see this, 321 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.759 and you know people even see this in the most 322 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.680 like primitive Negro tribe, you know, which was like shorthand 323 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:42.480 for like Afrians. So that's you know, I I mean, 324 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.440 like why is that important. It's not that it's so important, 325 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.039 but for years, not just the long proceeds like like 326 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.480 wokesm and kind of fake scholarship online, there's this like 327 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:54.599 narrative that like Hitler for no reason and had some 328 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:58.000 like demented hatred of blacks and like hated Jesse Owens. 329 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.599 And I mean that's like that's there's literally demented. But 330 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.920 that that was basically Hitler's musings in America kind of 331 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:10.400 like looking at at the strategic landscape when you know, 332 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:15.680 he became reix Chnsler that when mister Roosevelt took the 333 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:21.559 oath of office. So why was Hitler so fixated on Russia. Well, 334 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:29.720 there's the obvious exigence of you know, it being Germany 335 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:36.039 being situated on the Soviet frontier. You know, the communists 336 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:41.599 were an existential threat to the Germans, you know, the 337 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:48.480 uh there was a an inextricable aspect of anti communism 338 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:54.279 to national socialism. But the thing is the Germans, said 339 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:59.680 one in Germany. I mean, that's why Hitler was Hitler. 340 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:05.440 Hitler was a reichs Consler. You know. Some years later, 341 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:09.519 you know, they won in Spain, you know, like the 342 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:12.640 the Communists were losing in Western Europe. And the thing 343 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:16.480 with communism is that, you know, once it once, it 344 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:19.480 loses that kind of like revolutionary fervor, it don't it 345 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.559 doesn't come back. You know. That's why after World War Two, 346 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.400 you know, when one would think like, oh, you know, 347 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.519 like marcist Leminism is a zenith. You know, in the 348 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:32.799 Third World it was, but in Europe, like nobody they 349 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.119 it literally had to be imposed at the point of 350 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:38.240 a band, you know. So it's a it's a different thing, 351 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:46.519 you know. And uh so people will there another people 352 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:50.680 will raise the question then like well then why why 353 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:53.799 why was the War in the East literally declared to 354 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.599 be a rosen Krige, and why was it so brutal? 355 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:02.039 And why why why did the hit are formally distinguished 356 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:04.599 it from the War in the West. And I'll give 357 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:07.440 into this in a minute and declare that you know, 358 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:13.640 any German officer enlisted man in the East is immune 359 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:17.559 to prosecution for crimes against humanity, you know, and as 360 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.559 a contrary, you know, the the occupation of France or 361 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.240 nothing like that would be tolerated, you know, not not 362 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:29.440 even like by anybody. There's an interesting little factoid. I 363 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.400 think it's more than a factoid. I think it's fundamentally important. 364 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:38.960 There's this really interesting book. It's not my favorite books. 365 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:44.240 It's by this often named Prouden Prodden pr w D 366 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:48.079 I m. The Mongol Empire or the Mongols in their 367 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.400 Empire by Michael Prodden, which was a pen name. But 368 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:58.359 this book made the rounds in German academ you know, 369 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.079 in the in the I think the first I think 370 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:04.920 the first edition was published in nineteen twenty nine. If somebody, 371 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:10.200 if I'm wrong, somebody correct me. But people like among comparative, 372 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:15.519 people into like comparative social anthropology and cultural anthropology, people 373 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:20.640 into philology, particularly people into military science. They found us 374 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:27.240 to be a very important book. Heindrich Himmler became fixing 375 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:32.319 down this book at the at the SS younger schools. 376 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:40.079 It was a signed reading. Every SS officer, upon receiving 377 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:43.680 his commission, was given a copy of it. Jack and 378 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:51.920 Piper his uh, his term paper or his thesis. I 379 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:54.480 guess what he considered you know, his like bachelor's thesis 380 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:59.759 when he was when he was at SS Officer School. 381 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.039 It was on the Mongols, but it was it was 382 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:08.039 on a specific aspect of uh Mongol culture. That aspect 383 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.319 was something called the Yasa y a s s A. 384 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.039 Yasa was quite literally the law of the Mongol Empire. 385 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.240 But in the Mongol Empire, the law was literally kept 386 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:28.039 secret and it never made public. The Yasa had its 387 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:35.839 origin and wartime decrees. Later it was expanded, extrapolated from 388 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:42.720 these military conventions, you know, to include behavioral conventions, you know, 389 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.839 things relating to cultural things and and conjugal things and 390 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.000 and you know, disputes over property and things like this. 391 00:25:53.359 --> 00:26:00.880 But it remained a secret. It was, but it's believed 392 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.440 and there's a very incomplete record of the Mongols in 393 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.480 terms of you know, their cultural practice and things. It's 394 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.920 believed that this was supervised by genghis Ka himself was 395 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:20.279 who appointed his adopted son Shigi Kutsu. It's kind of 396 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:27.880 a like like a high judge or like a lawgiver. Okay. 397 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:34.200 He appointed his second son, Shaga Tai Khan to oversee 398 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.559 the law as execution, you know, quite literally as lord 399 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:47.279 high executioner. Now, this idea of a body of law 400 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:53.559 that obviously one of the reasons for its secretiveness is 401 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:57.480 not just so that you know, the high lawgiver can 402 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:04.720 maintain this mystique and decrees therein and precedent can be 403 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:12.400 modified and applied selectively, but it also you know, it's 404 00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:16.599 it also it also obviously he speaks of of of 405 00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:20.279 believe in the divine origin, okay, the social order, and 406 00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:24.839 of military endeavors, and of you know, the the function 407 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:34.440 of soldiery in and of itself. Okay, Piper wrote his, uh, 408 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:43.039 his his paper on Yasa, and you know, uh it 409 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:48.160 got glowing marks from his teachers, and Himler would Himler 410 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:54.079 Piper would periodically refer to Gengis Khan and Mongol concepts 411 00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.759 just in the discussion of military affairs. This obviously like 412 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:01.319 loved really large in his mind. Okay. So what this 413 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:09.079 translates to is there was a belief that they're they're 414 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:13.160 they're quite ahead to be some sort of adjacent moral 415 00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:17.400 ethos of you know, your vanguard soldiery, you know, and 416 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.319 that's what the SS was supposed to be. You know, 417 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.920 they were supposed to be a kind of they're supposed 418 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:25.079 to be kind of the reconstuted to Tic knights, but 419 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:28.799 they they were really kind of a it isn't a 420 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.240 perfect example, but they were almost, uh, you know, like 421 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:37.559 a jihad element, Okay, and some sort of integrated some 422 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.759 sort of integrated structure of you know, law and command 423 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:47.319 authority and theological small t theological imperatives is really what 424 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.359 something like that requires. And I'll get into that in 425 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:57.759 a minute, like why that is so important? Okay. A 426 00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:01.519 couple things that stand out, A couple of instances, you know, 427 00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:09.359 with people who discuss some command responsibility relating the relating 428 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:15.799 to the German war crimes and on genocide in the in 429 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:20.839 the Second World War. One of those instances is Himler's 430 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:26.440 posting speech. There's speeches in October ninety forty three where 431 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.119 Himmler addressed and assembled you know, the assembled higher SS 432 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.599 and police leaders and he's any openly stated stated we're 433 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.640 talking about we're talking about the the eradication of the 434 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.880 Jewish people. This was in nineteen forty three October, which 435 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.720 really shouldn't surprise anybody considering the state of things. Okay. 436 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.880 The second instance that they tend to raise, you know, 437 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.880 they raise it as is almost almost like a litigation attorney, 438 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:58.759 would you know an admission by a party opponent the 439 00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:03.000 over Salzburg speech on August twenty second, ninety thirty nine, 440 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.400 which obviously was right, you know, it was the eve 441 00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:12.000 of the assault on Polam. This American journalist Louis P. 442 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:18.559 Lockner just gets a little complicated. He contacted a diplomat 443 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:26.200 named Alexander Coms dot Kirk. He showed him the text 444 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:32.319 of this speech that Hitler had the Hitler at the 445 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.599 Hitler had delivered h to the assembled, over to the 446 00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:40.519 to the assembled the brass at over Salzburg. In turn, 447 00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.880 it was transmitted to the British diplomat George Ogilvy Forbes, 448 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.000 who of course made it public in British intelligence circles, 449 00:30:53.640 --> 00:31:00.359 you know, almost immediately. And the belief almost certainly, or 450 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.359 the understanding almost certainly, was it was Wilhelm Canaris, the 451 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.640 chief of the advert who was the intelligence leak okay, 452 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:10.799 and he was he was present there, and it's interesting 453 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:12.400 for all kinds of reasons that this is what he 454 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.640 chose to really, this is what he chose to leak 455 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.880 in lieu of some other things over the because because 456 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.039 Canaris didn't leak everything and sometimes he did what was 457 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.359 what one will consider to be the patriotic thing to 458 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.480 do at critical junctures, like other times he was engaged 459 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:35.400 in catastrophic acts of treason as relays to you know, 460 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:40.119 the disclosure of what would be considered eyes only secrets. 461 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:46.640 But he has in may these documents, the documents considering 462 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.599 this speech, or at least the notes that constituted the speech, 463 00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:56.200 as much as as much as our snitch who will 464 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:08.359 will accept as Canaris proffered to the allies, every every uh, 465 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.720 every exhibit profitent Nrberg was cataloged with a letter in 466 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:23.319 a number code. This the text of the speech. It's 467 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.680 his paragraph and number code is paragraph three of Exhibit 468 00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:35.039 L three. It's it's I'll read irrelevant paragraphs. It's short. 469 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.880 This is Hitler speaking. Our strength consists in our speed 470 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.279 and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women 471 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.400 and children to slaughter with premeditation and a happy heart. 472 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.960 History season m solely the founder of a state. It's 473 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.319 a matter of indifference to me. With a week, Western 474 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.799 European civilization will say about me. I've issued the command. 475 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.240 I don't have anybody who utters but one word of 476 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.000 criticism executed by fire squad, that our war aim is 477 00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.400 not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical 478 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.400 destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I placed my death head 479 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.480 formation in readiness to the present only in the only 480 00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:14.039 in the East, with orders to them to send death 481 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:19.559 mercilessly and without compassion. With sent with orders to them 482 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.599 to send to death merciless lead and without compassion, men, 483 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.279 women and children have polished the rivation and heritage be 484 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:29.519 Thus shall we gain the living space which we need? Who, 485 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.119 after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians. 486 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.839 That's that famous quote about the Armenians comes from. Okay, 487 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:38.839 So what is Hitler saying now, mind you, when he 488 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.960 talks about putting any insubordinate person of the firing squad, 489 00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.279 he's saw having the men in uniform without exception. Okay, 490 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:48.400 So that's that's raconian, but it's appropriate, Okay, within the 491 00:33:49.640 --> 00:34:01.079 commonly accepted laws and customs of war as uh. That 492 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.759 coupled with the Commissar order, couple with the Barbarossa decree, 493 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:11.960 you know which. Again I'm not going to read verbatim 494 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:17.320 word for word the text of those documents, but it 495 00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:22.760 essentially stripped away any and all precedent relating, you know, 496 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.719 permissive or compulsory related to the laws and customs of 497 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.480 wars in sixteen forty eight, while acknowledging that in the 498 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:34.599 West these things would still be scrupulously honored and observed. Okay, 499 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:44.239 so what does that mean? What that means is that, 500 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:50.840 in practical terms, Hitler realized that in order to become 501 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:57.159 a superpower, Germany had to annihilate everything east of the 502 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:04.960 order that was not reconcilable with the German ambition, you know, 503 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:12.840 of conquering, of conquering a land mass essentially from uh, 504 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.039 from the Atlantic Ocean, you know, to uh, the Earls 505 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:28.719 and perhaps beyond. There's no way that one can reconcile 506 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:36.760 that ambition. And there's no way that one can imagine 507 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.679 a strategy, grand strategy that doesn't entail some variant of 508 00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:51.599 that whereby Germany survives. You know, it's I mean, if 509 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:53.239 you want to and you know, keep in mind too, 510 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.559 like you know, you know, Prussia was populated when the 511 00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.840 Prussians conquered it. You know, these uh, these these winds, 512 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:08.559 they there were people somebody adjacent to you know, the 513 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:13.079 pagan Baltic tribes, you know, who who some of the 514 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.480 later crusades were waged against. You know, this was this 515 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.400 was a wild land. But you know, the this precedent 516 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:25.599 within the German cultural and military psychology for this, and 517 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.559 you know, it's like it's like saying, you know, people 518 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.920 saying like, oh, you know, it's it's laughable to say that. 519 00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.519 You know, the Hitler viewed America is the adversary of Europe, 520 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.280 you know, when he was talking about putting you know, 521 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.000 entire countries to the sword in the East. It's really 522 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.639 not man, I mean, it's the the US. You know, 523 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.440 did during the Creek War did uh did did people 524 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.840 view the United Kingdom as uh as a greater existential 525 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.840 threat to America or you know, or the Comanche. You know, 526 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.480 one thing is related to the other because you know, 527 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.880 if you're fighting quite literally a war against two discrete populations, 528 00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.239 you know, there's there's there's there's gonna be some sort 529 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.639 of weighing of you know, the relative threat potential of both. 530 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:25.960 But the idea that you know, the willingness to exterminated 531 00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:31.599 people in lieu of abiding the laws and customs of war, 532 00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.079 it's pre efficient evidence that those people are you know, 533 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:40.559 your worst enemy. That's not conceptually, that's not how high 534 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.320 politics works the theory are we Are we saying that 535 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.880 today on the news every day? Yeah, yeah, exactly. The 536 00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.559 you know, there's also too, there's not we don't think 537 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:05.519 of Germany as a colonial power, you know, during the 538 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:10.159 second wave of colonialism, but they were, you know, and 539 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:15.320 then arguably contextual preducts too. Is the Herrero uprising in 540 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:27.079 nineteen oh four in German Africa. General Lothar Monrotha there 541 00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:36.239 was this uprising obviously of of these Herrero tribesmen and 542 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.920 they were they they were driven out and chased into 543 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:47.639 the into and into the cold, into this adjacent territory 544 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.199 of the Kalahari Desert, you know, which was uh which 545 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:55.159 was a waste land, okay, Montroda. He had them locked 546 00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.159 down and he in any any refugees who tried to 547 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:10.400 access water were shot. So when Troth and his men 548 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.840 were quite literally hunting these people to extinction in the desert, 549 00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:23.719 Charte himself referred to the order he was, the order 550 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.960 that he issued regarding the treatment of these people and 551 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:34.840 not distinguishing, you know, between between persons, you know, just 552 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.719 like you know, regardless of sex, age, ability to bear arms, 553 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.800 overall health. You know, they were all to be killed 554 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.400 so called very next Clumbus baffle quite literally an annihilation 555 00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:53.519 order or annihilation command, and his words the quote, the 556 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:56.400 hero are no longer German subjects within the German border. 557 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.960 Every hero was shot with her without rifle, with without care. 558 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.199 I take no more wives and child, no child. I 559 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:05.480 take no more wives and no children. I drive them 560 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.039 back to their people, or let them be shot. You know. 561 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:13.199 I mean, that's uh, incredibly hard words from a hard man. 562 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:19.159 But the you know, I realize I'm jumping around a lot. 563 00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:26.599 I hope that doesn't. I hope that that's not you know, 564 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:28.679 rendering this ole page. 565 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:30.840 You'll bring it back home. 566 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.800 We got it right, the uh to bring it back 567 00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:40.639 the sims And I tell you, you know, I make 568 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:47.559 the point about Hiller being Hitler was a political gambler, 569 00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:55.039 but he's militarily cautious. And that's a stuffy point as well. 570 00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.559 We'll get into some of that too, because it's significant 571 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.599 to kind of like the the myth versus reality of 572 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:17.679 Adolf Hitler. But something, something that something that uh is 573 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:25.159 uh is undeniable, is that Hitler was several steps ahead 574 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.000 of his generals. I don't think anybody in an Okay, 575 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.280 in the ok W had a truly developed sense of 576 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.840 the political in the way that Hitler did. Okay, in 577 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.639 generals for the most part don't. That's something is it's 578 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:42.840 crazy to me people these days in this country act 579 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:47.320 like generals, you know, understand power political affairs, and that 580 00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:51.159 it's it's perfectly legitimate for them to have opinions on policy, 581 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.760 like you know, the army has no policy. But it's 582 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.920 also and this isn't me trashing military men. They they 583 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.920 they you know, in concrete particulars and every kind of discreets. 584 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.960 You know, it's a it's remarkably complicated but a very discrete, 585 00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:15.360 you know, sort of a sphere of action. You know, 586 00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:21.480 they don't generally have a great understanding of the political 587 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:27.840 impactfulness of military activity, nor how political occurrences index and 588 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:34.599 milatary military activity. I mean most people don't, but you know, 589 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:41.760 General's especially this stands out contraary Hitler. Hitler could look 590 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.559 at a political situation and at burgeting crisis and generally 591 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.960 discern what was developing, you know, four or five proverbial 592 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.119 moves ahead, like that's what the game of chess is Okay, 593 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.679 Like I I went to a phase. I was playing 594 00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:58.920 a lot of chess as a kid, and like I 595 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.760 read all the chess books and stuff. Then I found out, 596 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.119 like I love pool, you know and hears. But you 597 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.960 know what these with these chess masters can do. Like 598 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.400 like there's this movie about like Bobby Fisher that was 599 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.280 you know Peope. Now he's like a persona on Grada 600 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.880 because he's like anti Semitic or he said something nice 601 00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:20.719 about Serbia or something, but he's you know, he was canceled. 602 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.199 But there's this movie about Bobby Fisher and you know 603 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:26.480 kind of like his life as this you know, child 604 00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.440 prodigy and the way they portray it. I realized we've 605 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.400 got to portray things in a certain way in film 606 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:35.039 and make it compelling, but especially if it's a cerebral 607 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:40.199 process you're trying to convey to the audience. But the 608 00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:42.119 way these the way these high level chess kids are 609 00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.360 like playing, it's almost like a shootout. You know, Like 610 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.440 Fisher like moves his night you know, then like the 611 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.000 other kid like Perry's almost and moves his Bishop. It's 612 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.360 not how like top level chess masters played. They're like 613 00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:56.079 they're like five moves ahead, you know, and they're and 614 00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.199 and they're they're figuring out the best way to facilitate 615 00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.800 like that end game. You know, then I've already seen 616 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.199 and like if that potentiality collapses, it's like, okay, you 617 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:09.719 know there are this there's said they're rapidly reorienting towards 618 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.880 you know, another outcome that's like five moves ahead. You know. 619 00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:14.719 That's and that the same thing with the game theory. 620 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.960 You know, if you want to fight and win a 621 00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.880 nuclear war, I don't I want to get into the 622 00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.119 debate about like, you know, can win a nuclear war? 623 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:26.280 There's an ethical judgment and also like yes you can, 624 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.719 but it depends on what the victory metric is. And 625 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:32.880 that's that's uh that that's not an absolute criteria. But 626 00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.559 point being, if you're gonna fight and win a nuclear war, 627 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:41.079 you you basically have to be three steps ahead. Okay, 628 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:44.679 you can't. You can't be rendering decision, you know, in 629 00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:47.719 the in the moment and waiting for way, waiting for 630 00:44:47.760 --> 00:45:00.559 the variables to reveal. But uh so Hitler, Hitler realized 631 00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:06.880 that god damn one thing, I lost my train of 632 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:11.159 thought as I'm still like not a one hundred percent. Oh, 633 00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:20.920 Hitler took on December one, uh, you know, right, just 634 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.599 on December eleventh, and we'll get into this next time. 635 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.000 That was that was Hitler's speech to the Reichstag, you know, 636 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.800 where he announced that the declaration of war against the 637 00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:35.599 United States. This was also you know, as the assault 638 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:48.280 on Moscow was was was was failing, like catastrophically. Hitler 639 00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:52.000 a famous Nations of the Order, you know, the Army 640 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:59.599 group center, don't you dare retreat? And this is characterized 641 00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:03.119 as like Hler being you know, like this madman. But 642 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:10.280 Hilo was a salvage. Uh what remained of the operation 643 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:16.800 because Moscow had to fall in December or all was lost. Okay, 644 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.159 And I believe he knew that on some level, and 645 00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.760 everything I think subsequent was an anti climax. But apparently 646 00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:40.039 apparently ok W over you know, Bermont high command. This 647 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:49.599 was when w Chief Operations Walter Varlamont, he contacted Yodel 648 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:54.239 and said, you know who was then a who was 649 00:46:54.280 --> 00:47:00.599 then chief of operations of OKW Arland, you know, said 650 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.000 you know, can you have you heard of the fear 651 00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:08.880 is that declared war in America? You know? Yodel said yes, 652 00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.239 and according to Varlo Mont, like Yodel is like white 653 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.760 is a sheet, you know, it said that. You know, 654 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.800 now the the you know, the the general stab is 655 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.400 charged with you know, no way to examine where where 656 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.440 the United States is like mostly going to employ the 657 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.239 bulk of our forces initially, whether it's the far East Europe, 658 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:34.320 and we can't take further decisions until that has been clarified. 659 00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:47.280 Villamont replied, well, he said, this is obviously a necessary consideration, 660 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.119 you know, commissioning this analysis. But he said, you know, 661 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.199 he said, this is mad. We've never been considered a 662 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.159 war against the United States, and we have no data 663 00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.840 on which to base this examination. We can hardly undertake 664 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:05.639 this job. Just like that. Hitler fired for Elman what 665 00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.039 he heard of this and said he never wanted to 666 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:12.559 see him again or speak to him. Hitler sidelined Yodel, 667 00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:17.039 and Hitler said, you know what, I'm making myself a 668 00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:24.920 chieve a staff of ok w Hitler said, there's nothing, 669 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.119 he said, there's nothing that like he said, there's nothing 670 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:33.159 like a general, a staff officer, a feld Marshall can 671 00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:38.440 teach an army. What what he can do is he 672 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:44.159 can educate them politically, you know, and he can explain 673 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:50.079 to them what needs to be done by inundating them 674 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:54.360 with an understanding of the stakes they're in. Now again 675 00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:57.199 people turn around to say, like that meglomaniac Hitler, like 676 00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:01.840 he appointed himself chief of okw Well you know what 677 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.159 he did by doing that? Everything that went wrong. Now 678 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:11.159 Hitler could not issue responsibility for okay, from that point forward, 679 00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:14.320 he couldn't blame the generals or the army for sabotaging anything. 680 00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:18.519 Or it seems like the play of a man who 681 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:25.840 was trying to avoid responsibility or take on offices you know, 682 00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:31.440 symbolic or or wielding actual authority, you know, for the 683 00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:37.280 sake of for the sake of glory. But part of 684 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:43.039 Hitler's rage here, you know, it was against Varlomont. It 685 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.280 was what the hell you're talking about? Like, the whole 686 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.559 reason we're doing this is because America is going to 687 00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:53.559 destroy us. You know, we don't survive unless we become 688 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.760 a superpower. You know, we don't survive unless we can 689 00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:02.800 compete on at least conditions to parody with the United States, 690 00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:13.480 you know, and fortify you know, fortify the Western the 691 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.880 Atlantic Wall, and such depth that it's essentially suicide to 692 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.199 assault it, you know, and and sort of force America 693 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:29.599 to accept UH our hegemony over the continent and Central 694 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.480 Asia west of the Uralls, just as you know, everybody's 695 00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:38.360 every you know, all other all rival sovereign powers are 696 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:43.360 are you know, must accept Americas to Germany pursua for 697 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:50.119 the them in Roe doctrine. And that was uh, that 698 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:59.960 was Hitler's thinking, you know, it's his exact words. It's 699 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.519 were this little, this little affair of operational command is 700 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.760 really something anybody can do. The commander in chief's job 701 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.079 is to train the army in the national socialist idea, 702 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:11.960 and I know of no general who could do that. 703 00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:14.679 Is I want it done. For that reason, I've taken it. 704 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:23.239 I've taken command of the army myself. The European winner 705 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.079 of nineteen forty one. In the forty two was, uh 706 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:32.960 was the coldest the twentieth century. There's rarely temperatures of 707 00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:40.440 forty nine below fahrenheit, just just horrible conditions to fight. 708 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.840 And you know, but again it's the UH. Germany was 709 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.599 racing the clock, you know, it wasn't just Stalin planned 710 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:55.079 to assault the German Reich. Absolutely, but even with that 711 00:51:55.199 --> 00:52:01.199 not the case, you know, Germany had to survive. Germany 712 00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:06.840 had to they had to win in the East before 713 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:13.079 America was able to was able to accomplish full mobilization. 714 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:16.960 And the Rainbow five document, which was leaked, you know, 715 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:22.159 for years, it was blamed on poor hap Arnold deliberately 716 00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.599 I believe, by intelligencelement the United States. But but the 717 00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.360 entire league in the Rainbow five document was to convince 718 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:38.000 Berlin and specifically Hitler, that America could reach full mobilization 719 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:43.079 potential and deploy in both the Pacific and the European 720 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.719 battle theater. You know, with the they basically pushed it back, 721 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.519 push it forward a year in in in you know, 722 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:56.360 control was actually possible, you know, and Hitler saw the 723 00:52:56.400 --> 00:53:03.920 writing on the wall, and that's why it's laughable. And 724 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:06.960 you know, I mean it raised this again because we're 725 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:11.480 talking about like the real Hitler here and and his 726 00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:17.519 ambitions as well as his character is warlord. But there's 727 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.360 this idea that you know, Hitler declared war in the 728 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.000 United States for no reason or because he was a 729 00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:27.639 crazy man, or because he wanted he wanted to quote 730 00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:32.039 distract people from the looming failure in the East, which 731 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.840 makes no sense whatsoever. But it's you know, I the 732 00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.199 United State has already declared war on Germany. The fact 733 00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:41.559 though on December eleven, or I'm on September eleventh, another 734 00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:46.119 US September eleventh, ninety forty one, when you know, the 735 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:48.920 Department of the part the War Department declared that any 736 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:54.280 any German flagship UH in the North Atlantic encountered by 737 00:53:54.320 --> 00:54:01.840 American vessels will be destroyed, you know. So that's that's 738 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:10.320 in strategic terms and political terms, all this, I mean, 739 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:19.599 all this coalesces into you know, an inevitability that you know, 740 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:26.159 an American global superpower means that Germany parishes and Germany 741 00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:31.320 is Europe, and Europe is Germany, and power political terms 742 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:35.599 such that we're I sent in the twentieth century, you know. 743 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.480 And that's that's another thing too. And we'll get into 744 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.360 this as as we get into some of the second book. 745 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:48.599 This some of the substance stuff in the second book Hitler. 746 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.400 Hitler viewed the Soviet Union. It's kind of a Frankenstein's monster, 747 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.639 where there was this revolutionary cadre piloting the proverbial head 748 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:07.440 that without that kind of firm control on the other 749 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:12.320 machinery of that monstrous head, you know, the entire the 750 00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.719 entire set of Golam just just it collapses, you know, 751 00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:23.719 or perhaps it's hijacked by you know, socialist nationalists, Russian 752 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:31.480 elements obviously, you know, like like mister Yaki predicted as well. 753 00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:36.239 But that doesn't m But you know, the nascity globalism, 754 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:40.440 which everybody understood, is what underlay the Second World War 755 00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:46.119 and power political developments both preceding it and intrinsic to 756 00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:52.239 the conflict itself. Everybody realized that, you know, the the 757 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:56.039 advantage in terms of what would structure like what system 758 00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.039 would structure the planet, like went to America. You know 759 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:03.039 what the Union had going for it was military, you know, 760 00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:07.960 so there's that too. And obviously this was you know, 761 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:15.840 pre atomic age, so that didn't teach into the equation. 762 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:21.079 But let me see what I'll say. There's something else 763 00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:31.800 I think I want to do. Mention. Yeah, well, uh again, 764 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:35.440 I'm sorry, I mean kind of scattershot. I'm still I'm 765 00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.320 still not one hundred percent. We'll get into the brass 766 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:45.519 tax of We'll get into the brass tax of. Still, 767 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.639 if he's characterization of Hitler, the Sims book will get 768 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:53.440 directly into some of the Sims claims, and you know, 769 00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:59.199 there will be kind of a a comparative retrospective, you 770 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.800 know on these kinds of soft revisionist views of of 771 00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:06.440 the fear, like what they have in common with you know, 772 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:12.639 in terms of in terms of historical agreement and what 773 00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:20.000 they don't. And then maybe, uh, maybe we'll conclude, you 774 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:24.239 know with discussing told a little bit more and you 775 00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:27.159 know kind of like the personal side of Hitler and 776 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:31.119 how that's been that that's that's been kind of more 777 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.239 more addressed, more and more and more mature and sober 778 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:39.719 way as well, which makes sense because what we're godless 779 00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:43.840 feel we're as about anyone feels about a giant historical personage, 780 00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:47.880 it's you know, his personal life such that it exists, 781 00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:53.039 and then given cases, is essential understanding the man. And 782 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:55.360 that's uh, that's all I got. Like I said, sorry 783 00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.360 if I if I wasn't up to snuff. I'm still 784 00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:02.920 getting over my last about of a hutod misery. 785 00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:06.159 No problem at all. Do some quick plugs and uh 786 00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:06.920 we'll get out here. 787 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:12.079 Yeah, man, you can find me at uh Thomas seven 788 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.639 seven seven dot com. There's number seven hm s seven 789 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:22.280 seven seven dot com on Twitter at real capital r 790 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:26.440 e A O underscore number seven h M A S 791 00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.480 seven seven seven subs deck is where like my bread 792 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:37.239 and butter like content is including the pod. It's it's 793 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:41.440 some real Thomas seven seven seven subse dot com. Those 794 00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:42.519 are the only plugs I got. 795 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:46.079 All right until part two? Thank you, Thomas, Yeah, man, 796 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:49.559 thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to the 797 00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:55.920 Pecana Show Back from the road, Thomas seven seven seven. 798 00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:57.760 Are you doing, Thomas, I'm. 799 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.920 Going well, man, Yeah it was. It was a very 800 00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:05.519 good trip. And West Virginia is a fascinating place and 801 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.840 it's a really it's just really interesting part of the country, man. 802 00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:14.039 And it's still America is so big. There's still like 803 00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:17.159 a lot of there's a lot of differences between places, 804 00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:18.920 you know, on the ground, like at the local level, 805 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:24.280 and that that was no exception. Like I went to 806 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:26.239 this guy's Like there's this guy like an antique like 807 00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.000 junk shop, and what he looked just like he like 808 00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:29.800 he literally just looked like some a horder like sitting 809 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:31.159 in a garage or the things like what he was 810 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.199 he was like selling the shitty hordes. And uh, there 811 00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:39.320 was some like fascinating stuff there, some of which was 812 00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:42.559 like not remotely politically correct. 813 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:47.079 There when you get to the South. When you get 814 00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:48.679 to the South, you can find a lot of places 815 00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:48.960 like that. 816 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:53.159 Well fastating Like Buddy Damon, who was from a shy town, 817 00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.039 he uh he found this. Uh he found this menu 818 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.199 from a Picaninnies rest runs. Uh. It's like a it 819 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.159 was on like a you know, like it was like 820 01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:05.599 it was like a menu that's like also like a 821 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.280 mask you know, in in front of your face, like 822 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.159 uh the right player leading correct defection of uh I 823 01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:11.920 guess a pick and then eat and then like we 824 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:13.639 look at the back and it was uh it was 825 01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:15.440 it was from a freaking location that was on like 826 01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:17.960 West Madison in Chicago, like back in the day. I'm like, wow, 827 01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:20.639 it's wild. But uh yeah, all that all that kind 828 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:23.119 of stuff that people, I guess, I kind of stuff 829 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:25.440 that makes like redditors like soil their painties with like 830 01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:28.199 outrage and shock or something like whoa, just whoa this 831 01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:32.519 used to exist Like uh but that I mean, you 832 01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:36.760 find some pretty weird shit like here, you know in Chicago, 833 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.119 like that d DR helmet that's like an original like 834 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.320 Volks PULITZI like M fifty six helmet I totally I 835 01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.320 found this like random antique shop and there's this old 836 01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:48.119 lady's like, oh that's my husband stuff. It's give me 837 01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.320 like thirty dollars for it, So like yeah, bet, but 838 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.920 but I mean, you know, it's like I saw it's 839 01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.239 like weird in an entirely different way. And but we 840 01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:59.159 went to this like really good barecue place. Like my 841 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:01.320 guts weren't bringing means it's got a pepsi but uh, 842 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:04.519 it was just it was literally like these two trailers 843 01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:07.760 and like this guy, uh, this like boss hog looking 844 01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.320 guy like working at grill and like uh and then yeah, 845 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.119 like a couple of like picnic tables. It's like an 846 01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:17.159 eating area and like it's like this is fucking nuts. 847 01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:20.119 You know. I cash only of course. So yeah, uh, 848 01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:25.159 like Rustic America lives on at least in West Virginia's 849 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.679 that's good to see. Man. I spend so much time 850 01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:32.400 in like big cities, you know, I uh and and 851 01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:35.599 being like in places you know, like Baltimore suburbs like 852 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.360 DC or it's like damn, man, like's everything been like 853 01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.400 homogenized into into a big like Walmart. So it's it's 854 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.000 good to see that ship. Yeah, yeah, it was good. 855 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.559 Yeah, growing up in the city and now living where 856 01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.760 I live. It's when I go to the city now 857 01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:52.920 that I'm like, what the hell's going on here? I 858 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.760 don't really know. I want to go Yeah, I want 859 01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:56.719 to go back to the country. 860 01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.639 Yeah, no, the country is dope. But I'm a Slickers, 861 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.440 so like I can't permanently leave. I like, uh, I 862 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.840 can only survive like in this ecology or something like 863 01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:11.159 I don't know, like too much wholesomeness and clean air. 864 01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:12.039 It might like kill me. 865 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.960 But all right, man, Part two. 866 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:22.280 Yeah, I something I think I need to emphasize. And 867 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.559 like I said, like the reason I discussed primarily the 868 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.880 Sims biography of Hitler from twenty seventeen last time, when 869 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.559 I said Roosevelt was Hitler's primary was Hitler's mortal enemy. 870 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.280 Like people must understand what I'm saying. That's not you know, 871 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.599 people kind of accept mainstream narratives. They're like, oh, yeah, 872 01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:42.760 you know Hitler was anti American. No no, no, no, 873 01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:47.400 that's not what I'm saying. And it's not Hitler didn't 874 01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:50.199 cove it. I mean, Hillar definitely was practicing like Velt's 875 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.320 politique and uh like gross wrong politique. But I mean 876 01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:57.920 this idea like oh, hilar had American sites on ground 877 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:02.000 to some ambition for you know, like like world domination. 878 01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:04.920 That's ridiculous too, I mean for no other reason. I 879 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:10.119 mean ridigulous conceptually. But Germany. Germany is a country. It's 880 01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:13.880 smaller than Wyoming, Okay, I mean it's just not. And finally, 881 01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.400 you know, like I said in one of our earlier series, 882 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.719 I cited Hannah Rent it was an interesting thinker for 883 01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:25.880 a few reasons, but one of uh in her book 884 01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:29.639 The Origin of Sutalitarianism, which is a stupid title because 885 01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:34.280 that sounds like just some kind of boiler plate you know, 886 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.639 kind of like dummy academia type work product of the 887 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:40.239 kind that came out of the era. But it's actually 888 01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:42.880 a really insightful book. And you know, she was an 889 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.840 actolte a heigha girl. It may have been like a 890 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:50.639 romantic partner of his, but you know, she's not making 891 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:52.760 the point that like Hitler wasn't a nationalist and then 892 01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:56.039 like German nationalism was dead, you know, and the you 893 01:03:56.079 --> 01:04:00.400 don't understand national socialism and you don't understand the move 894 01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:02.840 Hitler was making if you don't understand that he was 895 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:06.159 thinking in terms of like the superpower age, you know, 896 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.679 and to survive, Europe had to be able to capture 897 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.400 you know, the land and racesources that it needed in 898 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:19.639 order to in order to mobilize into into a superpower. 899 01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:21.840 You know, like the future belonged to the United States 900 01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:28.039 and the Soviet Union and and their respective ideology, because 901 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:32.440 unless Europe could find a way to survive. And also, 902 01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:38.960 you know, Roosevelt was Roosevelt due to Hitler as his 903 01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:42.000 as his adversary. You know, the New Deal regime, it 904 01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:45.679 was a revolutionary regime in all kinds of ways in 905 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.719 terms of its values and underlying philosophies, but it base 906 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:56.400 also the framework for globalism, at least conceptually, was being 907 01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.960 laid by the ideologies of the day, and the New 908 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:04.599 Deal was no exception. And if another reason, you know, 909 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:06.480 like we've told we haven't really talked about this here, 910 01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:09.840 and it's it's outside the scope. But like the Great Depression, 911 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.760 I I don't think it's mysterious. I mean, I think, 912 01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:15.320 like I've said before, like Murray Rothbard's book on it, 913 01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:19.559 I think it's the best treatment. And Joseph Schumpeter his 914 01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:25.000 his his, his magnum opus business cycles was the huge undertaking. 915 01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.920 It's like two volumes. It's incredibly complicated, but that kind 916 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:34.119 of explains over time how such things can occur at scale. 917 01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:36.440 But I mean it was basically a cash drout and 918 01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:39.840 it owed the absence of an integrated banking structure. Okay, 919 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:43.360 I don't want to get a debate about like whether 920 01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:46.920 banking is evil or not, like the guys say, like 921 01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.639 banking on their brain or like cockroaches, like they'll infest 922 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:52.199 like a discussion and then they won't shut the fuck 923 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.400 up because they think bankers pissing their corn flakes. I 924 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.599 don't want to talk about that. But what's what's what's 925 01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:02.039 inarguable though, is that, however you fall on the issue 926 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:05.719 of you know, fiat currency in that entirere kind of 927 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:11.480 category of of economics, you know, like like finance economics 928 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:15.159 and monetary economics, it was clear that you know, not 929 01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:18.119 just for not not just not just owing to you know, 930 01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:21.599 conceptual and political reasons, but for structural reasons, you know, 931 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.719 like globalism was was going to take shape somehow, so 932 01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.920 you're you're going to become a superpower or die. And 933 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:36.360 you know, Roosevelt obviously owing to an affinity for the 934 01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:41.760 Soviet Union, but also viewing doing Europe as as as 935 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:46.039 basically America's like primary adversary. I mean that that's perverse 936 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.920 for a lot of reasons, but within the kind of 937 01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:53.679 internal logic of of like the New Deal ideology, I mean, 938 01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:57.280 it makes sense. All Right, I'm gonna started. I want 939 01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:59.719 to talk a little bit about Hitler's December eleventh speech 940 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:03.840 to the I mentioned that before. It's tremendously important. Okay, 941 01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:07.800 for a long time. We're gonna talk about that. We're 942 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:13.719 gonna talk about Roosevelt's radio address in nineteen thirty eight, 943 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:17.760 which was a direct challenge to Hitler, and then Hitler 944 01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:24.159 surprised everybody Hitler. Hitler directly responded to Roosevelt point by point, 945 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:27.320 and the consensus was that he utterly destroyed him and 946 01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.480 like made him look like a fool. And the thing 947 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:33.800 about Hitler was that Hitler wasn't a normal politician. He 948 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:36.199 wrote all his own speeches, he didn't have speech writers, 949 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.960 despite the fact that he kind of founded the modern 950 01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.559 political campaign. Like, Hitler wasn't going around taking public opinion 951 01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:50.119 polls and like worrying about optics. You know, he put 952 01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:56.519 a premium on presentation and elon and a certain esthetic 953 01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.599 you know that would obviously animate people and kind of 954 01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:02.400 stir their passions. But in terms of the content of 955 01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:07.599 what he'd say, he he was basically like he was 956 01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:11.679 behaving like some kind of evangelical preacher almost you know. 957 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:13.880 Everything came back to like the European cause and like 958 01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:16.560 the Natil Socials revolution, and these are ambitions. You know, 959 01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:18.399 this is what we have to do. You know, this 960 01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:20.439 is this is this, this can't be compromised. You know, 961 01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:22.680 these are the core principles, you know, like it was 962 01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.159 never Oh I'm talking. I'm talking you know, the German 963 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:27.199 labor front, you know, so I'm gonna I'm gonna pretend 964 01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:28.920 to be a worker or like you know now I'm 965 01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:30.960 talking to the I'm talking to you know, men who 966 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.199 represent the textiles industry. So I'm gonna pretend you know 967 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.359 that they're gonna get subsidies if they beck me and 968 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:37.279 you know, put money in the calls like ship like 969 01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:41.760 that didn't even figure into the equation. Okay, Roosevelt, I 970 01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:44.439 think thought Hitler was was a politician. I don't think 971 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.239 I don't think Roosevelt had a real interest in the 972 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:48.399 rest of the world, you know, like he was worldly 973 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.319 in the way that like the kind of the the 974 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.600 old like Brahmin cast here was. But he you know, 975 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.720 it's like Hitler was a polymath until his until Hitler's 976 01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:00.800 i'd say, before night and forty, you know, when hilar 977 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.039 really started deteriorating in terms of his health and everything. 978 01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:07.319 Hitler didn't do anything all day but consumed data, you know, 979 01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:11.199 like out of gunch famously related. He's like, you know, 980 01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:17.159 during during OKW briefings, like somebody would misstate the caliber 981 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:19.960 of like an artillery piece, or like the specs of 982 01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:22.760 like an armored vehicle, and Hiller would correct him, and 983 01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:24.560 then like somebody would go check you know, in the 984 01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.600 in the in the in the tech manual and realize 985 01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:31.399 like Hitler was right, you know, like he he was 986 01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:35.840 he was uh so, I mean Hitler he had a 987 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:37.680 weird rep for being, you know, a rep for being 988 01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:40.359 a weird bohemian who like slept late and stayed up 989 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:43.039 late and had weird habits, which he did. But during 990 01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:47.319 his waking hours, everything Roosevelt said publicly Hitler paid attention 991 01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:50.680 to and took seriously, like everything Churchill said publicly, like 992 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:52.600 everything that Soviet Union was doing. You know, he was 993 01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:55.560 studying it, you know, like he was, that's all he did. 994 01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:01.199 You know. So this idea that Roosevelt of like grandstanding 995 01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:06.000 and and he issued this kind of like dummy polemic 996 01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:09.279 you know about you know, Hitler being a threat to 997 01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:11.000 world peak something in that like that would just be 998 01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:15.800 allowed to stand, Like that's that's laughable. But we're gonna 999 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.279 go backwards it bit because like I said, I think 1000 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:19.960 the starting point should be the Reichstek speech, because people 1001 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:23.920 don't understand why. First of all, that the Reichstek speech, 1002 01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:27.600 it was never translated in English and full until the 1003 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.800 nineteen eighties. Sometimes like the New York Times ran a 1004 01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:34.039 fake translation like full of Hitler saying crazy things like 1005 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:36.239 about he wanted to conquer the world and full of 1006 01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:40.079 this kind of like vitrol against Jews and stuff. That's 1007 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:44.359 not what was said. And I came across the full 1008 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:48.720 like accurate translation and it was a dude for historical 1009 01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:54.119 review stuff sometime in the nineties. But you know it's something, 1010 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:59.199 uh it's not. I mean, the speech was. It was 1011 01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:00.840 significant for a few reasons. First of all, it was 1012 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:02.520 Hitler announced that we were up formingly at war with 1013 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:05.199 the United States as my declaration of war. And despite 1014 01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:09.239 what people claim, you know, like I said before, America 1015 01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:11.840 was waging war on the Third Reich for years, and 1016 01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:16.640 then three months previously, the US Naval Commanded declared that 1017 01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:18.760 they were gonna they were gonna fire on any any 1018 01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:22.359 German flag ship they encountered, and then North Atlantic and 1019 01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:24.199 then and then and then it was also declared that 1020 01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:29.520 America's the contiguous zone to America's territorial waters was considered 1021 01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:35.720 to be our essential defensive concord stretched from stretch all 1022 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:40.119 the way to Greenland and and and uh so, I 1023 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:42.079 mean it was just basically like America said, like anything 1024 01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:43.960 in the Atlantic Ocean with the German flag, we're going 1025 01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:46.720 to kill. Okay, you know, you don't get to turn 1026 01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:48.640 around and then say like, oh, the Germans are making 1027 01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:52.760 war on us. But so there was that. And also 1028 01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:59.000 it's interesting because you know Hitler. Hitler fought American infantry, 1029 01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:01.760 and like I said in the Sims book, he talked 1030 01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:03.840 about how like the Americans are better than us, and 1031 01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:07.279 Key weighs, Yeah, he wasn't some like dummy chauvinists at all, 1032 01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:12.960 and he said, you know, he he was big into Americana. 1033 01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:15.680 He loved King Kong, he love Coca Cola. He read 1034 01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.119 Western books all the time, like well history as well 1035 01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:20.319 as like Pulps. When he was a kid. I mean, 1036 01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:22.840 he he knew America and like what it was about. 1037 01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:28.800 You know. So this idea that he he just had 1038 01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:30.520 some kind of like haughty disdain or that he was 1039 01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.920 like some some hick from the sticks who didn't understand 1040 01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:38.880 power political scale is ridiculous. But it's also too you know. 1041 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:44.319 The Wilson's intervention is what really changed the war. And 1042 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:47.239 it wasn't just mean I mean, they changed the outcome 1043 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:48.880 of the war, you know. So, I mean, any any 1044 01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:52.439 American president was going to loom large in the mind 1045 01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:55.640 of you know, a guy served as as a as 1046 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.920 a frontline Lonzo, even if he wasn't you know, politically 1047 01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.600 engaged you a littlee the man who's you know, entur 1048 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:04.239 of life as politics. So there was a couple of 1049 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:11.319 key there's a couple the Speech of the Rights today again, 1050 01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:14.560 it was Thursday. It was over a Thursday afternoon, December eleventh, 1051 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:17.479 nineteen forty one, four days after the Japanese assault in 1052 01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:21.279 Pear Harvard. Obviously it was an eighty eight minute speech, 1053 01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:28.000 which for Hitler was long. It uh, he'd written in himself, 1054 01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:34.560 as he wrote everything himself. He explicated, he explicated why 1055 01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:38.319 the state of the status of forces in in on 1056 01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:43.920 the os Front, you know, which by then, um, the 1057 01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:46.800 assault on Moscow was in the process of failing, so, 1058 01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:51.560 I mean, a crisis was looming. So Hitler emphasized, you know, 1059 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:55.520 the the victories to that point, I mean, which were massive, 1060 01:13:56.399 --> 01:14:02.439 you know, But mainly he talks about America, you know, 1061 01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:05.000 like he doesn't he doesn't mention Stalin at all. He 1062 01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:09.760 talks about the Soviet Union and how the Soviets, the 1063 01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:12.159 Soviets acted in bad faith. He's like, we signed a 1064 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.279 non aggression packed because you know, we had no illusions 1065 01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.880 that the Bolsheviks are our mortal enemies. But he said, 1066 01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.199 we believe that they wanted peace, at least for the 1067 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:22.920 time being. He says that when it became clear to me, 1068 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:25.640 he said, it became clear to me that their attentions 1069 01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:34.159 were were were a hostile when they when they immediately 1070 01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:39.520 opened up diplomatic channels with the coup in Yugoslavia ninety 1071 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:44.479 forty one, which Yugoslavia was key to Jeremy's ability to 1072 01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:48.880 deploy in depth obviously, and the coup was a was 1073 01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:51.680 it was for all frederical purposes with a Chetnik coup, okay, 1074 01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:55.119 you know. And Hitler said subsequently, you know, the Red 1075 01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:59.880 Army is deployed offensively on our frontier. He said, only 1076 01:14:59.880 --> 01:15:04.199 a full wouldn't realize the implications of you know, twenty 1077 01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:10.079 thousand tanks and you know, dozens of divisions, you know, 1078 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:13.520 a raid on the eastern frontier. I mean, so he 1079 01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:16.720 said that war was forced on us. But you know, 1080 01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:21.720 there's an inevitability to this paradigm. Anyway. He talks about 1081 01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:23.760 Churchill as being kind of just like a pathetic cipher 1082 01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:28.760 of of the focus, which he was. But the rest 1083 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.720 of it, he talks about Roosevelt, and he talks about America. 1084 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:34.119 You know, that's what the bulk of the speech is 1085 01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:38.279 dedicated to. You know, like while again German forces are 1086 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:44.760 actively engaged at the gates of Moscow and across you know, 1087 01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:49.399 a two thousand mile front, you know, literally the greatest 1088 01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:53.319 battle in human history. And Hitler's talking about Roosevelt in America, 1089 01:15:54.239 --> 01:16:00.199 you know, not and that that's apropos, you know, he 1090 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:07.039 he basically outlined he well, first he starts out as saying, like, 1091 01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.520 you know, look, he was like, we made repeated peace 1092 01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:17.800 overtures to London, one of the last of which actually 1093 01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:22.640 divided the war cabinet and almost cost uh, you know, 1094 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:31.159 the Churchill and government. It's mandate. Quoting Hilary says already 1095 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.199 in nineteen forty, it became increasingly clear from month to 1096 01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:34.760 month of the plans of the men in the Kremlin 1097 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:36.800 were aimed to the domination and the destruction of all 1098 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:39.319 of Europe. I already told the nation that building a 1099 01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:42.439 Soviet Russian military power in the East during a period 1100 01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:44.000 when Germany he had only a few divisions in the 1101 01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:49.199 provinces bording Soviet Russia. That's true, continuing, only a blind 1102 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:51.039 person could fail to see that the military build up 1103 01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:53.880 a unique world historyld dimensions is being carried out. This 1104 01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:56.079 is not in order to protect something that's being threatened, 1105 01:16:56.359 --> 01:16:59.239 but rather only to attack that which was incapable of defense. 1106 01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:04.199 Because people in this country to this day, I have 1107 01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:08.399 this idea of Germany as being this kind of you know, 1108 01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:11.279 almost almost this kind of I think they advanaged, almost 1109 01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:13.920 like the Soviet Union is presented in Rocky for or something. 1110 01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:19.640 But again Germany was this it's a country smaller than Wyoming, 1111 01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:28.880 you know, and for context too, and Hiller gets into 1112 01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.119 some of this. I'm not going to read a word 1113 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.079 for works, it would be pedantic. But you know, the 1114 01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:36.439 issue of Czechoslovakia, as we got into in one of 1115 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:41.319 our earlier series, Czechoslovakia was the most artificial of states. 1116 01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:48.239 Bene's literally had no mandate to rule. Roosevelt and his 1117 01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:54.479 press corps presented it when very rapidly the bulk of 1118 01:17:54.640 --> 01:18:00.359 a Czechoslovak territory came under German dominion. As I'm sort 1119 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.880 of like threatening Ledgard Maine, you know, leading like the 1120 01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:07.039 kind of bullying occupation of a sovereign country. That's not 1121 01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:10.800 remotely what happened. Her contexts to Prague is as the 1122 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:13.840 girl flies two hundred and two hundred miles from Berlin. 1123 01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:18.279 I mean, think about that. I think it was uh, 1124 01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:22.399 I think it might have been a hass he said. 1125 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.880 The Jigo Slovak state is a contrivance and it literally 1126 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:29.560 is like a knife like pointed at the heart of Germany, 1127 01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:32.720 which is true. It came into existence through the French 1128 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:38.239 needed some sort of ally in the east in in 1129 01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:47.920 order to stage you know, assault operations from and in 1130 01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:51.840 the in the era of military aviation which was then 1131 01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:55.880 burgening at pace. Like the implications were obvious, okay, but 1132 01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:02.680 because it may like, as we discussed, the Sudton Land 1133 01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:07.039 was ceded to the Reich, which was overwhelmingly German. After that, 1134 01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:14.560 Father Tiso and uh, the Slovax seceded from the Czechoslovakian Union. 1135 01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:18.000 I mean at that point it was a foregrong conclusion. 1136 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:20.840 Like what I mean, that's like saying that's like saying 1137 01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:23.000 like East Germany should have Like it was a tragedy 1138 01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:24.960 that East Germany ceased to exist. I mean, like I 1139 01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:29.079 what I still this day, I don't understand, Like what 1140 01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:35.079 the proposed alternative was it should they should the British 1141 01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:38.520 have assaulted Czechoslovakia to force it to exist, Like I don't. 1142 01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:44.279 That's not that's not how political realities work. It's it's 1143 01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:53.279 literally asinine. But moving on, Hitler continues by saying he 1144 01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:59.600 essentially says what Suberov echoed later, that the rapid conclusion 1145 01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.520 of the war in the West, you know, May to 1146 01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:06.800 June nineteen forty, meant that that that changed things in 1147 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:12.560 terms of you know, Moscow strategic perspective, they couldn't count 1148 01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:15.000 on They counted on the They counted on the right 1149 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:19.640 either exhausting its offensive capabilities rapidly and not being able 1150 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:23.520 to reconstitute, you know, for for months, if not years, 1151 01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:29.199 or some sort of quagmi or stalemate setting in you 1152 01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:35.239 know whereby whereby the only where where where by? Germany 1153 01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:38.880 had nothing to deploy in depth in the East other 1154 01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:41.560 than uh, you know, maybe like a skeleton prove of conscripts, 1155 01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:45.600 which would make for you know, easy pickings the you know, 1156 01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:52.600 thus super Raw's icebreaker descript or you know, let the 1157 01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:54.880 let's let the German rike, you know, break the proverbial 1158 01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:59.399 ice of what remains of capitalist power in the continent, 1159 01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:03.079 you know, and then the Red Army will assault and 1160 01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:05.199 take it all. And that stuff that reached the Atlantic 1161 01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:11.319 mostly again to me, are some what Hitler says about 1162 01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:15.880 his worldview. I'm quoting Hiller now. At about the midpoint, 1163 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:21.159 he says, what is Europe? There is no geographical definition 1164 01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:24.960 of her continent, but only an ethnic national the word 1165 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:29.079 he uses vocalish and cultural one. The frontier this continent 1166 01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:32.039 is not that rural mountains, but rather rather the line 1167 01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:34.000 that divides the western outlook on Lighte from that to 1168 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:40.399 the east. Now, if you look at a map, and 1169 01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:43.039 I don't know if people spend time with maps anymore, 1170 01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:49.920 I mean, just looking at maps, Europe's an indefensible rump peninsula. 1171 01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:52.720 You know, it's not there's not a Sahara desert or 1172 01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:58.760 an Appalachian mountain range between Europe and the other. It's 1173 01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:03.840 somewhat amazing that Europe existed at all, you know, really, 1174 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:07.880 and it's it's essentially starret of natural resources. You know, 1175 01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:12.680 Europe's very beautiful in terms of its vistas and things, 1176 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:17.720 but it's basically a wasteland if you're talking about tertiary 1177 01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:25.520 economic capital and things like that. Okay, So that points 1178 01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.720 while taken, you know, Europe's an idea. You know, Europe's 1179 01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:31.840 not subs are in Africa. Europe's not you know, East Asia. 1180 01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:36.600 Europe's not North America. You know, like Europe only exists 1181 01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:40.000 as like it's it's the mentioned material and the several 1182 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:47.199 cultures that constituted Hillarine proceeds to break down his view 1183 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:50.279 of you know, kind of like European origins or like 1184 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:55.079 Aryan origins. Okay, and again, as I said before, Aryan 1185 01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:59.880 wasn't some scare word that's philologists that that was like 1186 01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:02.000 what does the term they used? Okay, and it's not. 1187 01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:06.199 It's been appropriated by some dummies, but as well as 1188 01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:09.680 you know the usual suspects, you know, like commi's hysterical, 1189 01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:13.479 s poc types, like other other other shit bigs. But 1190 01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:15.960 it's not. It's not an idiot. It's not an ideologically 1191 01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:18.600 loaded word. You know, it shouldn't be. And I find 1192 01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.880 I find Indo European to be clungy unless you're ill 1193 01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:26.640 linguist and you're simply talking about, you know, kind of 1194 01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.560 the nuances of linguistic development. We're talking about like an 1195 01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:35.399 actual culture of people like Aryan is appropriate. Okay. It 1196 01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:37.319 was stated at one time Europe was confined to the 1197 01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:42.000 Greek Isles with a flame first burned that slowly but 1198 01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:45.159 steadily enlightened humanity. And when these Greeks fight against the 1199 01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:47.399 invasion of the Persian conquerors, they did not just defend 1200 01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:50.479 their own home, small homeland, which was Greece, but also 1201 01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.439 the concept that is now Europe. And then the spirit 1202 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:56.720 you're shifted from Hellos to Rome. Roman thought and Roman 1203 01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:59.359 state craft combined with Greek spirit and Greek culture. An 1204 01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:02.159 empire was raided, the importance and creative power of which 1205 01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:04.960 has never been matched, much less surpassed, even to this day. 1206 01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.960 And when the Roman legions defended Italy in three terrible 1207 01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.800 wars against the attag occurred that Troman Africa and finally 1208 01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:13.560 battled the victory. In this case as well, Romean fought 1209 01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.039 fought not just for herself, but also for the Greaco 1210 01:24:16.119 --> 01:24:22.079 Roman world that then encompassed Europe. The next invasion against 1211 01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:24.039 the home soil of the new culture of humanity came 1212 01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:27.039 from the white expanses of the East. A horrific storm 1213 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:29.039 of culture was horror from the center of Asia, poured 1214 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:31.960 deep into the heart of the European continent, burning, ravaging 1215 01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:36.159 and murdering a true scourge of God. On the Catalonian fields, 1216 01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:38.680 Roman and Germanic men fought together for the first time 1217 01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:41.439 in a decisive battle of tremendous importance for a culture 1218 01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.880 that had begun with the Greeks, passed on to the Romans, 1219 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.640 and then encompassed the Germanic peoples. Europe had matured. The 1220 01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:50.359 occident arose from heuse in Rome and for many centuries 1221 01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:53.319 its defense with the task not only the Romans, but 1222 01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:55.760 above all of the German people. What we call Europe 1223 01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:58.920 is the geographic territory of the Occidans, enlightened by Greek culture, 1224 01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:01.920 inspired by the powerful heritage of the Roman Empire. It's 1225 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.079 territory and large by German colonization, or was the German 1226 01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:08.439 efforts fighting back engaged in from the east or on 1227 01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:11.399 the Strut or on the Lechfeld plane or others pushing 1228 01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:13.399 back Africa from Spain or a period of many years. 1229 01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:15.399 It was always a struggle in developing Europe against a 1230 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:20.720 profoundly alien outside world. There's this heavy stuff for uh, 1231 01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:25.159 for for a consler or a president or a prime minister. Okay, 1232 01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:28.840 I mean I I think that goes without saying. And 1233 01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:32.680 it's not it's it's not just it's it's it's not. 1234 01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:36.520 It's not just like hyperbole or can polemic of the 1235 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:40.920 kind that they you know of that was common to 1236 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:47.840 the nationalist era or whatever. It kind of dismissive suggestion 1237 01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:52.399 is favored by cored academics of these days. And also 1238 01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:54.319 what he's saying, what he said was inarguable, like all 1239 01:25:54.359 --> 01:26:01.079 those things are true, you know what. And then and 1240 01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:03.279 we'll get to the meat of the kind of Roosevelt 1241 01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:08.199 the challenge countra versalt in a minute, but he goes 1242 01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:11.960 on to say specifically that you know, we're now engaged 1243 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.920 in a war for our civilization against another terror from 1244 01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:17.880 the east. And this is only this is only possible 1245 01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:20.439 owing to the you know, the volunteers from Croatia, from Italy, 1246 01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:23.279 from Spain, you know, from Norway, from Denmark, from France. 1247 01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:25.159 You know, this is a European war. There are no 1248 01:26:25.239 --> 01:26:27.039 more Germans, there are no more Norwegians, there are no 1249 01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.119 more Frenchmen. You know, this is the battle of the 1250 01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:33.359 Oxten and for survival against the Barbarian Asiatic horde. And 1251 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:37.840 you know, the Jewish capitalist ideology that's facilitating its attack 1252 01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:49.600 on us, you know, exemplified by mister Roosevelt. That's and 1253 01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:51.960 he concludes kind of the summation, I like the strategic 1254 01:26:52.039 --> 01:26:57.079 situation by saying, you know, this is what happens on 1255 01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:01.960 these battlefields is going to resonate for five thousand years, 1256 01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:06.760 you know, and Europe will not survive unless it's victorious, 1257 01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.359 you know, And again I mean that that's an arguable too. 1258 01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:13.159 You know, you don't you don't have to be a 1259 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:20.560 Hitler partisan to accept that how anybody can kind of 1260 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:28.279 contradict that reality anymore? And you know, kind of Parather 1261 01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:33.119 refrains that, you know, Hitler is the double and this 1262 01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:39.720 kind of like Life magazine perspective of the condition of 1263 01:27:39.760 --> 01:27:42.479 the occident, you know, the circa nineteen forty one. I 1264 01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:44.239 don't know how people can possibly think that way, but 1265 01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:46.720 I mean people people think all kinds of crazy things. 1266 01:27:48.359 --> 01:27:50.800 And now here's the meat of what we're of. What 1267 01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:58.279 I want to emphasize, quote Hitler says, and now let 1268 01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:00.880 me speak about another world when I was represented by 1269 01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:04.439 a man likes to chat nicely at the fireside while 1270 01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:06.319 nations and their soldiers fight in the snow and ice. 1271 01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:08.640 Above all, the man who is primarily responsible for this war, 1272 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:15.680 speaking of Franklin denwoll Roosevelt. Obviously, it continues with regard 1273 01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.079 to German's relationship with America, the following should be said. 1274 01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:20.800 Germany is perhaps the only great power which is never 1275 01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:23.359 in a colony in either North or South America, nor 1276 01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:26.479 is it otherwise been politically active there, Apart from the 1277 01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:28.960 emigration of many millions of Germans with their skills, from 1278 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:32.239 which the American continents originally the United States has only benefited. 1279 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.159 In the entire history of the development in existence the 1280 01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:37.319 United States, the German Reich has never been hostile or 1281 01:28:37.319 --> 01:28:40.560 even politically unfriendly towards the United States. To the contrary, 1282 01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:43.039 many Germans against their lives to defend the USA. That 1283 01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:46.560 is true, The German Reik has never participated in wars 1284 01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:49.039 against the United States, except in the United States went 1285 01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:51.560 to war against it in nineteen seventeen. It did so 1286 01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.760 for reasons that have been thoroughly explained by Commission. What 1287 01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:00.920 he's talking about is the NI Commission, which we covered 1288 01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:07.039 uh in an earlier episode. I can'tnasalize enough how much 1289 01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:08.560 World War One was kind of viewed as like the 1290 01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:11.720 Vietnam War of its day. It was viewed as a 1291 01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:16.159 lie that duke the American people, you know, killed one 1292 01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:17.920 hundred thousand young men in the prime of their life, 1293 01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:20.640 who were then later abused, you know, by being denied 1294 01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:26.520 their their pension rights. Gerald and I I who wasn't. 1295 01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:28.880 He wasn't some like America firster. He was a He 1296 01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:33.880 was a big progressive liberal. He he chaired them, He 1297 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:38.680 convened the NI Commission, and basically, I mean it basically 1298 01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:41.479 exposed that JP Morgan when it realized that it had 1299 01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:44.840 you know, it's it it it had had been hedged 1300 01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:49.760 adequately in it's in its loans to UH to the UK. 1301 01:29:51.159 --> 01:29:53.880 You know, it essentially demanded you know, action from the 1302 01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:57.479 White House when we all lived undo influence to get 1303 01:29:57.479 --> 01:30:00.279 a war declaration. You know, like people were outraged by 1304 01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:02.760 when this was coming out. You know, like no nobody 1305 01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:04.960 viewed World War One as anything but a disaster and 1306 01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:09.840 has a big lie. So you know, and Hitler obviously 1307 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:13.680 like like the view of a and and and I 1308 01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:17.640 was shouted down by this coterie of a of a 1309 01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:23.239 of of of all party men saying, you know, you're 1310 01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:25.520 smirching them. You know that you're you're smirching the grave 1311 01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:28.600 of of of a President Wilson when he's doing no 1312 01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:30.920 such thing. And honestly, like even Hitler didn't talk about 1313 01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:33.199 Wilson as being a bad man like Wilson, who was 1314 01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:35.920 cast as kind of like naive guy. The fourteen points. 1315 01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:39.279 Actually it was like the only kind of honorable piece, 1316 01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:48.399 uh the situations that that that was presented. You know, 1317 01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:52.560 that that honored the rights of combat. It's in any 1318 01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:54.680 real way, you know, it was it was Wilson, who 1319 01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:56.960 basically said that like you know, states have have an 1320 01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.319 absolute right to you know, to to preserve them Jordan 1321 01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:03.199 natural culture, you know. And it was it was the 1322 01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:05.640 French and British delegation who basically laughed in his face 1323 01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:08.079 and and and demanded vengeance, you know, like it was 1324 01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:13.159 so I mean, I I wasn't wasn't burning Wilson in 1325 01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:16.199 peruvial effigy, and honestly, and Hitler never held out Wilson 1326 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:18.359 as an evil man like he basically he basically looked 1327 01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:20.720 at him as like a weak man was pulled over 1328 01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:26.760 by by high finance and UH and DuPont UH, which 1329 01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:31.680 was a which was a huge armaments concern among other things. 1330 01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:36.920 You know, they they made, they manuf, they manufactured UH. 1331 01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:42.199 Then they manufactured basically like everything that allowed the af 1332 01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:45.680 to fight. You know what we talked about, like this 1333 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:49.840 is a rare instance of you know, financial financial concerns 1334 01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:53.640 and and economics basically you know, being the being the 1335 01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:58.600 approximate cause of of a of a of a war 1336 01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:02.920 declaration or or like intervention at scale. You know. So 1337 01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:07.000 it's not like hilar wasn't just saying crazy things. I mean, 1338 01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:10.239 this was basically the majority opinion you know of not 1339 01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:14.000 just of of Europeans and and of and of Germans, 1340 01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:16.600 you know, obviously felt like uniquely aggrieved. But I mean 1341 01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:19.000 in America, this is why, this is why people looked 1342 01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:23.680 at it, you know, I mean at this wasn't u 1343 01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:27.359 the fact, I mean honestly, like I think we talked 1344 01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:28.760 about it in the New Deal when we're covering the 1345 01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.800 New Dealers War and some the time Fleming scholarship. I mean, 1346 01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:34.840 had it not been for the Pearl Harbor attack, I 1347 01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:37.840 don't think Rosell could have gotten a war mandate, you know, 1348 01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:41.880 and once under our system, you know when I mean 1349 01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:44.800 even today, even even post Watergate, when the executive has 1350 01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:50.960 been gilded. You know, a a wartime president is base 1351 01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:53.960 is for all practical purposes, you know, a lawn to himself. 1352 01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:56.960 I mean like look at look at uh, I mean, 1353 01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:59.000 look at look at Bush forty three, like I mean 1354 01:32:59.479 --> 01:33:01.520 like he might have been like a goofy and effectual 1355 01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:05.319 guy and whatever, but his his administration wielded real power, Okay, 1356 01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:07.880 and that that only came that only derived from the 1357 01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:11.800 fact that he was a wartime president, you know, no 1358 01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:14.039 matter what, like all rhetoric kind of goes out the 1359 01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:20.079 window of the of the opposition when when so situated. 1360 01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:24.439 Vietnam is a weird exception, but that that's it's too 1361 01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:28.039 complicated to get into here as a as a tangent. 1362 01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:31.159 But that's I I I raised that because I'm sure 1363 01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:34.840 people who aren't familiar with the history will just say, like, oh, 1364 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:37.880 Hitler's just maligning. You know, of course he's gonna say that. 1365 01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:39.680 You know, world War One was based on a lie. 1366 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.720 That's not that wasn't just like Hitler's take, that was 1367 01:33:42.479 --> 01:33:44.680 what everybody viewed it as. And frankly that that's what 1368 01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:48.479 it was. You know, what, why why what? Why did 1369 01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:50.439 America fight World War One? Because it just it just 1370 01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:53.079 really really doesn't like it really doesn't like monarchs and 1371 01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:55.920 like democracy has to reign like so, so we got 1372 01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.920 to make sure that the British Empire can squeeze every last, 1373 01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:03.840 the real last bit of reparations out of Germany. I mean, 1374 01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:10.039 obviously that was his was bullshit, but it's a the uh. 1375 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:17.119 And finally, interestingly, Hiler makes a nottive like the article 1376 01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:20.159 to presidency. He says, America's a republic led by a 1377 01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:22.920 president with wide ranging powers of authority. Germany was once 1378 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:24.920 ruled by a monarchy with limited authority and then by 1379 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:28.319 bocracy that lacked authority. Today is a republic of wide 1380 01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:31.920 ranging authority. Between these two countries is an ocean. If anything, 1381 01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:35.119 the differences between capitalist American Bolshevik Russia, if these have 1382 01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:37.560 any meaning at all, must be more significant than those 1383 01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:39.720 between the America led by a president and that Germany 1384 01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:42.800 led by a fear And it's important too because obviously, 1385 01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:45.279 you know the kind of the constant refrain, not just 1386 01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:51.640 of Roosevelt's Roosevelt that is loyalist, but you know administrations 1387 01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:58.960 before and since who want to malign people and countries 1388 01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:01.920 they identified as opponent. They were talking about dictatorships. I mean, 1389 01:35:01.960 --> 01:35:06.640 America's a presidential system. Like again, I mean there's there's 1390 01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:10.960 few there's a few countries in the Western world or 1391 01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:15.000 what or what was once the Western world that have 1392 01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:18.239 a system that orbits around the chief executive to the 1393 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:20.239 degree that America is. Okay, So there was there was 1394 01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:22.319 something of a of a weird irony to America going 1395 01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:25.439 around saying, you know, mister Putin is a dictator, like 1396 01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:27.800 you know, this country is a dictatorship. You know, it's 1397 01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:30.840 like what as opposed to what like you, they should 1398 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:32.880 have They should have a House of Commons and a 1399 01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:35.600 prime minister who can be ejected by no confidence vote. 1400 01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:38.600 I mean you you know, I mean it's uh, the 1401 01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:44.399 America is the the land of the sovereign executive, you know. 1402 01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:47.279 I mean that was that really is the legacy of 1403 01:35:47.319 --> 01:35:52.279 Hamilton more than anything, and and to his credit in 1404 01:35:52.359 --> 01:36:01.279 my opinion. But the what's there to think about this too, 1405 01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:04.239 is that the Reichstag speech, I mean it was timely 1406 01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:12.359 again because of the strategic situation, but also FDR in 1407 01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:16.800 April fourteenth, nineteen thirty nine, it is radio address he 1408 01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:25.079 issued this what was called his challenge to Hitler. Okay, now, 1409 01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:32.159 the words of it were as follows. Quote. Because the 1410 01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.720 United States, as one of the nations of the Western Hemisphere, 1411 01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:37.560 is not involved in the immediate controversies which have arisen 1412 01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:39.840 in Europe, I trust that you be willing to make 1413 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:42.159 such a statement of policy to me as head of 1414 01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:45.479 a nation farabu from Europe, in order that I, acting 1415 01:36:45.560 --> 01:36:48.039 with only responsibility and obligation of a friendly intermediary, may 1416 01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:51.800 communicate such declaration other nation now apprehensive as the course 1417 01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:55.840 which the policy of your government may take. Are you 1418 01:36:56.039 --> 01:36:59.560 willing to give assurance that your forces will not attack 1419 01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:12.479 or invade the territory possessions of the following independent nations Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, 1420 01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:26.119 the Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain and Ireland, France, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Russia, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey, Iraq, 1421 01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:29.039 the Arabias, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, and Iran. 1422 01:37:29.960 --> 01:37:35.600 Wow, now that's that's almost comical. 1423 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:45.000 And there's a at the in the Reichsteg speech. Uh, 1424 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.520 there's some footage of Hitler like reading that list down 1425 01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:50.760 and if hands are like if hands are like a 1426 01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:56.239 gearing like laughing likes his hands, you know. But the 1427 01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:07.119 U Now let's uh, now, I mean, let's let's uh, 1428 01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:11.199 let's let's think about this for a minute. And Roosevelt's 1429 01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:14.520 list of countries that Germany was supposedly threatening. Let's let's 1430 01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:17.600 break that down. Finland, the first country on the list, 1431 01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:21.760 was invaded by the Soviet Union seven months later. They 1432 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:27.399 were actually allied with Germany from then on. Okay, the 1433 01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:32.840 three Baltic nations mentioned were conquered in nineteen forty by 1434 01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:40.039 the Soviet Union. Later, Roosevelt accepted Stalind in corporation of 1435 01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:44.600 the Baltic States in the USSR. Poland was assaulted by 1436 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:47.920 the Soviet Union and by Germany, but the Soviet Union's 1437 01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:53.159 assault apparently did but it didn't count. Neither Britain, France, 1438 01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:57.319 or the US did anything the counter or the Soviet 1439 01:38:57.319 --> 01:39:02.079 aggression against Poland when this always took complete control of 1440 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:07.119 nineteen forty four, the US had no had no problem 1441 01:39:07.199 --> 01:39:11.640 with it. Hitler himself pointed out, Syria and Palestine are 1442 01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:15.199 currently occupied by your ally, the United Kingdom, and you, 1443 01:39:15.359 --> 01:39:19.359 mister Roosevelt, are working tirelessly to facilitate a Zionist conquest 1444 01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:22.319 of Palestine, thus displacing the people or indigenous the region. 1445 01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:24.840 So why why why why? Why? You tell me? I 1446 01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:30.000 guess see what fair play for Palestine? So I but 1447 01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:37.239 again it's some the uh, this this, this, this earned 1448 01:39:37.279 --> 01:39:40.720 a sharp rejoinder because again I think I think Roosevelt thought, 1449 01:39:41.439 --> 01:39:43.319 first of all, I think some of these guys, some 1450 01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:46.439 of these like mornout types, that they're actually like high 1451 01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:48.720 on their own bullshit, and they actually believe that when 1452 01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:50.479 they said like Hitler's an idiots or he's like some 1453 01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:53.720 or he's like some like bohemian hill billy you who 1454 01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:57.199 can't read a map, like they these guys were totally outclassed. 1455 01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:02.479 You know, it's some like I I think, uh, I 1456 01:40:02.520 --> 01:40:04.880 think really thought this would like the fuddle Hitler or 1457 01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:09.600 somehow you know, resonate with uh. You know, people who 1458 01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:13.880 had a lesson sophisticated understanding of power politics. But it 1459 01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.039 was clear like he didn't even he didn't even like 1460 01:40:16.119 --> 01:40:18.279 study like who Germany's ops were at that time and 1461 01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:20.199 like who they were kind of like integrated with, you know, 1462 01:40:20.319 --> 01:40:26.920 politically and diplomatically, and you know, one of the in 1463 01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:28.840 the case again a palace and in the Arab States, 1464 01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:31.439 the as I made the point before about guys like 1465 01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:35.159 von Leers and by the propaganda ministry generally, like these 1466 01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:38.239 guys were actually broadcasting like Arab language broadcast to try 1467 01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:40.079 and court like the Arabs, Like I mean, a lot 1468 01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:41.520 of the reason why they were doing it was, you know, 1469 01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:44.640 a to agitate against the United Kingdom. But the point 1470 01:40:44.720 --> 01:40:47.079 is it's like it's like where the hell you pull 1471 01:40:47.079 --> 01:40:48.720 this list out of? Like I don't know but it 1472 01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:55.159 but like again I think, uh, these guys didn't these 1473 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:58.199 guys didn't they they weren't up on you know the 1474 01:40:58.359 --> 01:41:00.840 character of Hitler and kind of what he was, what 1475 01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:06.399 his tendencies were, you know, so he uh so Hitler. Uh. 1476 01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:14.920 Two weeks later, Hitler issued a director rebuttal point by 1477 01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:21.600 point anyway, and he broadcasted over the radio and uh 1478 01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:28.159 even Gerald and I again, uh who he said that, 1479 01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:30.399 you know, the president really took it on the chin. 1480 01:41:32.039 --> 01:41:36.159 You know, the consensus was that like uh was that 1481 01:41:36.479 --> 01:41:40.960 you know, worldso women handily smacked it down. And again too. 1482 01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:45.000 It's also the this was you know, the generation after 1483 01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:47.560 you know, the Great White Fleet, you know, Teddy Roosevelt 1484 01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:51.039 and scent the US Navy on its world literally its 1485 01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:55.600 world tour. You know, you had you know, you had, 1486 01:41:55.720 --> 01:42:02.199 uh America just you know a few your subsequent to 1487 01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:05.359 that effort, you know, had deployed at scale the Europe 1488 01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:07.960 you know, to literally change the course of World War One. 1489 01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:11.359 You know, America was engaged in Asia. You know, he 1490 01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:15.840 was engaged in you know, the the Banana Wars. The 1491 01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:20.399 kind of sway what remained of of Iberian influence in 1492 01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:24.520 in in Central and South America, you know, and again 1493 01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:28.319 Germany we're talking about We're talking about Germany smaller than Wyoming. 1494 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:31.399 You know, So this now what's gonna lecture us about, 1495 01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:34.520 you know, like belligerents, you know, and and what uh 1496 01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:40.920 and what constitutes acceptable application of force in the course 1497 01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:47.159 of uh of power, political ambitions and realities you know 1498 01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:55.119 the uh So I don't, but it's I I made 1499 01:42:55.159 --> 01:42:57.520 this point too because I again I think John Tolan 1500 01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:03.479 made the point. I mean I realized hooland Tolan was 1501 01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:08.760 certainly hostile the New Dealer perspective. You know, Toland was 1502 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.159 a true revisionist. He went with like the facts took him. 1503 01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:14.319 But he wasn't he wasn't any kind of national Socialist 1504 01:43:14.359 --> 01:43:16.319 or Hitler parties. I mean, he was just a rebalanced 1505 01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:23.039 uh you know, scholar. But he his take was his 1506 01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:26.880 take was that Roosevelt Roosevelt's you know, whole challenge of 1507 01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:30.119 Hitler was basically a publicity stunt. Obviously it was not 1508 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:33.960 a serious initiative for peace. But you know, by that time, 1509 01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:38.199 you know, the American President's viewed kind of everything they 1510 01:43:38.239 --> 01:43:43.279 did as a publicity stunt. You know. In contrast, Hitler 1511 01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:46.800 and to his credit Mussolini. They took seriously what official 1512 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:54.000 statements were from from national capitals. You know, they took, uh, 1513 01:43:55.920 --> 01:43:58.319 they took seriously what the American president said as a 1514 01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:04.000 statement of policy. You know, and when Hitler or al 1515 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:11.079 Duce you know, issued a statement, you could take that 1516 01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:13.079 to the bank, like we're gonnass what if you think 1517 01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:16.520 of the merit of you know, what policy was within 1518 01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:20.640 the bound rationality of their strategic ambitions. You know, they 1519 01:44:20.760 --> 01:44:23.239 they weren't, they weren't on publicity tours. They weren't saying 1520 01:44:23.359 --> 01:44:27.000 things to kind of you know, spoof public opinion, you know, 1521 01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:31.399 and that's that's something that's got to be acknowledged, like 1522 01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:38.920 I and like I said too, like imagine even even 1523 01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:42.640 in the nineteenth century or even in uh, even in 1524 01:44:42.760 --> 01:44:46.840 arguably kind of the most uh, even the most kind 1525 01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.840 of populist era in Europe, you know, after the excesses 1526 01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:54.399 of eighteen forty eight then kind of quashed, but you know, 1527 01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:58.560 there's still there's still remained kind of the the still 1528 01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:01.319 they're still kind of remained a the sensibility of you know, 1529 01:45:01.399 --> 01:45:05.960 the the Third of State having final say it was 1530 01:45:06.359 --> 01:45:10.760 it's pretty it's pretty remarkable for you know, not just 1531 01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:15.640 the rights consular, but any chief executive to publicly address 1532 01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:19.239 the legislature and say, look, here's the military situation. Here's 1533 01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:21.920 why I give the orders I did. These are a losses. 1534 01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:25.079 You know, these are what we need to reconstitute in 1535 01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:27.640 order to win. You know, this is my political vision 1536 01:45:27.680 --> 01:45:29.880 for the future, and this is my view of you know, 1537 01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:33.399 these men who positioned themselves our enemies. I mean, it's 1538 01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:40.760 just not that's a level of engagement and transparency that 1539 01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:45.119 I don't really think exists. One of the reasons that 1540 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:48.159 like Putin and Putin is no Adolf Hitler, I don't 1541 01:45:48.159 --> 01:45:51.119 even particularly, I don't. I don't think it's the best 1542 01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:56.840 man for Russia. I think it's unfortunately for the Rusian people. 1543 01:45:56.880 --> 01:45:59.640 He's not a better man who can rise the occasion 1544 01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:02.279 for all kinds of reasons. But it will see about Putin, know, 1545 01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:06.800 is that I think he is basically transparent. You know, 1546 01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:09.600 you'd be hard for us to find a statement he's 1547 01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:13.640 made on high politics, you know, war and peace questions 1548 01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:19.800 that isn't exactly what you know intended policy was. So 1549 01:46:19.960 --> 01:46:25.640 there's that too, Like I don't there's this, uh, I mean, uh, 1550 01:46:25.880 --> 01:46:31.239 there's all kinds of like weird mythologies about about chief 1551 01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:36.239 executives the states that America's fought in these twentieth century 1552 01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:39.439 wars and there, and they're alleged bad character or whatever. 1553 01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:42.359 But there's does this kind of does this ongoing like 1554 01:46:42.439 --> 01:46:44.560 mythology that like, oh, Hitler was this liar and he 1555 01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:47.359 was always resting like this this alledgered main Like it's 1556 01:46:47.479 --> 01:46:51.520 really not true, you know. I mean, I think the 1557 01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:57.319 Big U Czechoslovakia, you know, Munich in thirty eight and 1558 01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:01.880 Barbarossa being those know, a sneak attack and violation of 1559 01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:05.000 the not Aggression Pact. I guess said the kind of 1560 01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:11.199 big points of contention for people who insist on that viewpoint. 1561 01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:18.640 But again, I if I'll treat you law as permissive 1562 01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:23.479 not compulsory, because it can't be because it's impossible. If 1563 01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:26.640 the party to a treaty is acting in bad faith 1564 01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:30.600 and in the case of an impact, he intends to 1565 01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:35.039 attack you and is mobilizing for that purpose, You're not 1566 01:47:35.119 --> 01:47:38.520 under some moral obligation to wait to be assaulted, you know. 1567 01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:41.239 I mean that's like saying I that's like saying, my 1568 01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:42.880 man has to kill me, I've got to wait until 1569 01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:46.159 he draws on me and fires. Otherwise I'm a bad 1570 01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:50.000 actor for preemptively shooting him. I mean, it doesn't. This 1571 01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:54.560 is not the way things work. And you know, I 1572 01:47:54.640 --> 01:47:57.319 mean aside from that, if if if you take the 1573 01:47:57.359 --> 01:47:59.600 side of the Soviet Union over Europe, I mean, regardless 1574 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:05.840 of the regardless of the merit of Hitler's decisions are 1575 01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:08.359 like thereof you got something wrong with you, you know, 1576 01:48:08.520 --> 01:48:12.920 like you you support your own civilization right or wrong. 1577 01:48:14.199 --> 01:48:17.920 And finally in the case of you know, it hits 1578 01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:22.880 the Czechoslovakia again, it was uh it uh it was 1579 01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:26.039 there was a there, there was no center there, you know, 1580 01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:32.119 I mean it it rapidly came apart literally once the 1581 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:34.960 Sugate in Land was ceded to Germany. Like there is 1582 01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:38.279 no Czechoslovakia. It ceased to exist immediately after the inner 1583 01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:41.119 German border came down. I mean, was that was was 1584 01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:44.119 that like a crime against history too? Like should should 1585 01:48:44.119 --> 01:48:48.159 we insist Czechoslovakia exist? I mean, I so there's not, 1586 01:48:48.520 --> 01:48:52.520 you know, And that kind of surprised me, man because 1587 01:48:52.520 --> 01:48:54.560 like honestly, I guess just because being more particuarly educated, 1588 01:48:54.920 --> 01:48:56.239 but when I think about things that it kind of 1589 01:48:56.279 --> 01:48:58.000 that kind of caused me to like give me pause 1590 01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:03.119 about any positive feelings about Hitler. It's what he did 1591 01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:07.199 to his friends on UH in June nineteen thirty four, 1592 01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:10.399 and things like that, you know, I mean I to 1593 01:49:10.479 --> 01:49:12.680 give you plausive a man who's willing to murder his 1594 01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:16.560 friends or political expedience. It was what Hitler did. It 1595 01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:18.439 seems to me to say, you know, I'm not I'm 1596 01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:21.039 not I'm not Adolf Hiller, and I'm not a man 1597 01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:26.880 who wheels power over the fortunes of nations. But it's like, 1598 01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:30.800 really like you're you're big, You're you're you're you're big, 1599 01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:36.000 your big, and diamond Hitler's character is that Czechoslovakia seased 1600 01:49:36.039 --> 01:49:38.600 to exist and this it was mean to attack the 1601 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:44.239 Soviet Union like it doesn't it doesn't really track. But anyway, 1602 01:49:44.279 --> 01:49:53.560 I just I thought it important to get UH that 1603 01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:58.000 out there. And during the UH, I want to cover 1604 01:49:58.119 --> 01:50:04.600 the UH. I want to cover the the warriors and 1605 01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:11.399 what specifically Roosevelt's final term where his mandate was evaporating, 1606 01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:13.520 and I think Roosevelt wasn't quite in his that he 1607 01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:16.319 didn't have his families about him anymore. And this resonated 1608 01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:20.319 very much in the quarters of the third Reich. And 1609 01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:24.199 there's a reason why the July twenty plot happened when 1610 01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:26.239 it did. There's a reason why a lot of the 1611 01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:31.279 intrigues within the Reich itself developed as they did. Stalin 1612 01:50:31.399 --> 01:50:35.399 was making decisions looking forward to a future without Roosevelt. 1613 01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:38.119 I mean, Stalin was pretty old himself. Excuse me, it 1614 01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:42.000 was pretty old himself at this point. Okay, but I'll 1615 01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:44.560 be very clear in the next episode. But on on 1616 01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:48.279 what I mean. But I I I've mentioned before Hitler's 1617 01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:51.720 a sumber eleventh Reich strike speech. I maintain it's it's 1618 01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:58.920 critically important as as testimonial evidence in putting together uh 1619 01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:03.640 not just an understanding of the psychology at Hitler as 1620 01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:10.439 warlord and as a political actor, but also but also, 1621 01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:16.039 you know, disabusing people of of a conceptual biases they 1622 01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:21.359 have about you know, the the war declaration against the 1623 01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:24.720 United States. It was it was just like some brazen, 1624 01:51:24.840 --> 01:51:30.640 crazy act or some sort of attempt at as some 1625 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:34.600 sort of attempt at a gamble or something. But yeah, 1626 01:51:34.680 --> 01:51:39.359 that's all I got for today. All Right, that was great. 1627 01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:41.800 Let's do plugs and uh we'll end it. 1628 01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:47.800 Yeah, man, Uh, you can always find me at Thomas 1629 01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:50.680 seven seven seven dot com It's number seven h m 1630 01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:54.840 A S seven seven seven dot com and on Twitter 1631 01:51:55.680 --> 01:52:05.079 at the real Thomas kepital r a l Underscore number 1632 01:52:05.119 --> 01:52:10.239 seven hm me is substick Real Thomas seven seven and 1633 01:52:10.279 --> 01:52:16.600 seven substick dot com. I'm on Instagram. I I'm gonna 1634 01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:19.479 be uh. I'm gonna do what I can then in 1635 01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:23.119 the next four weeks to be more productive content wise. 1636 01:52:23.640 --> 01:52:26.359 I was traveling and I my hell isn't been great. 1637 01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:29.720 So there's monkey runs some things, but uh, I think 1638 01:52:30.399 --> 01:52:32.600 I'm gonna try to turn that around A promise. 1639 01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:36.880 All right until the next episode. Thank you, SAMs. Yeah 1640 01:52:36.960 --> 01:52:41.000 man on, Welcome everyone back to the pe Conana Show. 1641 01:52:42.359 --> 01:52:44.720 How are you doing, Thomas, I'm doing well. 1642 01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:45.880 Thanks for hosting me. 1643 01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:50.279 Thank you, and I guess we'll take this time to 1644 01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:53.239 talk about this uh little project that we started and 1645 01:52:53.479 --> 01:52:59.920 just released on on gum Road. We sat through and record, 1646 01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:02.840 watched a movie and commented on it last week. I 1647 01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:06.000 think you did an amazing job. Let's talk a little 1648 01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:07.840 bit about that. What you what you think people can 1649 01:53:07.880 --> 01:53:08.319 get out of this? 1650 01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:13.359 Well, Like I said, people have long been requesting that 1651 01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:15.760 there'd be more content relating to movies and things and 1652 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:21.319 U I uh, I yeah, I guess, uh, I guess 1653 01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:24.039 it's kind of our version of Mystery Science Theater three thousand. 1654 01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:26.520 But I'd like to think a little more serious commentary. 1655 01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:31.800 But uh yeah, man, there's a lot you know, film's 1656 01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:34.760 an important media. I'm not. I mean, I grew up 1657 01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:36.920 kind of living my curiousy for the movies, which I 1658 01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:40.680 think is kind of a mean, that's kind of a 1659 01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:44.560 that's a very American kind of rison me, you know, 1660 01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:47.319 at least for people born before like nineteen eighty or so. 1661 01:53:47.600 --> 01:53:52.880 But you know, it kind of like American cultural life 1662 01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:55.520 exists like in cinema, you know, in a way that 1663 01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:59.680 it doesn't in and other mediums. You know, I guess 1664 01:54:01.279 --> 01:54:04.079 the Great American novel is a trope, you know. And 1665 01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:08.159 don't get me wrong, like there's there's still in this day, 1666 01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:12.319 like you know, Americans make an impact on the literary scene. 1667 01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:14.520 But like when we're talking about kind of like America's 1668 01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:17.880 contribution of like you know, the the kind of like 1669 01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:22.359 global cultural prestige like high high culture and like lowist 1670 01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:25.520 of the low, we're talking about cinema. So I think 1671 01:54:25.560 --> 01:54:30.279 that's important to man and then especially you know these 1672 01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:34.159 days the kind of lament uh and it's and it's 1673 01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:36.640 well placed, you know, and including like people like Martin 1674 01:54:36.680 --> 01:54:40.880 Scorsese himself. There's not like real films being made by Hollywood. 1675 01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:46.439 I think that's true, but there's something of a backlash 1676 01:54:46.520 --> 01:54:49.680 against that. Then, you know, the kind of removal of 1677 01:54:49.760 --> 01:54:52.800 barriers to entry in the form of you know, production 1678 01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:59.560 tech becoming kind of democratized for lack of a better word, 1679 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:01.760 you know, I mean, like anybody can shoot a film 1680 01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:04.199 man like who's got you know, I got bair minimum 1681 01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:07.279 of investment in capital. So you don't make the point 1682 01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:10.039 too that guys like Nicholas the Ref and Ryan Gosling 1683 01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:13.319 are kind of keeping filmmaking alive, you know, like basically 1684 01:55:13.399 --> 01:55:16.640 taking a loss on these passion projects. And I'm I 1685 01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.920 just know, I just tweeted out, you know something about 1686 01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:22.720 Kevin Kostner, who I'm not any like big fan of. 1687 01:55:23.199 --> 01:55:24.680 I think he's like a well meaning guy, but I 1688 01:55:24.720 --> 01:55:27.479 think some of his work product a ship. But he 1689 01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:32.399 he made this big western like epic that's like three 1690 01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:37.760 hours long. They had got the standing ovation at one 1691 01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:40.119 of the big film festivals. I don't think it was Can's, 1692 01:55:40.159 --> 01:55:43.119 but it was you know, one of something in the vein, 1693 01:55:44.279 --> 01:55:47.199 So I maintaining that film is not just something for 1694 01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:50.840 like old people nostalgics like me, or for you know, 1695 01:55:50.960 --> 01:55:58.359 kind of people with subcultural interests. So I'm excited about it. 1696 01:55:59.039 --> 01:56:02.399 And feedback's been good, and like we talked about before, 1697 01:56:02.399 --> 01:56:05.279 we went a while, I'm trying to think about what 1698 01:56:06.159 --> 01:56:13.760 movie we should cover next, and uh, I'm welcoming feedback 1699 01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:20.880 on the ad or you know, request from subscribers as 1700 01:56:20.920 --> 01:56:24.640 to what they'd like to see reviewed, and obviously i'd 1701 01:56:24.680 --> 01:56:28.199 be heavy to bite it, but yeah, I'm excited about it. Man. 1702 01:56:29.640 --> 01:56:31.720 I just want to mention. I threw up a page 1703 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:34.960 on my website, Freeman Beyond the Wall dot com forward 1704 01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:38.800 slash taxi driver, Taxi drivers all one word, and there's 1705 01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:42.359 a link there to the Gum Road episode the video, 1706 01:56:42.600 --> 01:56:46.079 and I also put audio up because I know some 1707 01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:49.319 people are just not going to be able to sit 1708 01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:52.600 down and watch video, so some people are still going 1709 01:56:52.680 --> 01:56:54.279 to want to hear the commentary. And I had one 1710 01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:56.600 guy in the live stream yesterday say I know that 1711 01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:59.760 movie so well that I could listen to your to 1712 01:56:59.840 --> 01:57:02.680 your commentary. I know exactly what scene you're talking about 1713 01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:06.720 and vision and vision in my head, so I just film. 1714 01:57:06.880 --> 01:57:10.359 Yeah, there's I if you're like a movie person, the 1715 01:57:10.439 --> 01:57:13.520 other films you watch like dozens of times over lifetime. 1716 01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:15.760 And I mean even I've been like that some time 1717 01:57:15.800 --> 01:57:17.840 as a kid. I I realized some people think that 1718 01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:22.159 seems weird. Like I like years back, like a lady 1719 01:57:22.199 --> 01:57:23.960 I knew was like, why, you know, why why do 1720 01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:25.840 you always watch? Like why do you watch the same 1721 01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:29.119 movies over and over? You know, I'm like, doesn't everybody 1722 01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:30.920 do that films? Like like and she's like no, you know. 1723 01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:33.600 I'm like, okay, well it's but I've been that way 1724 01:57:33.640 --> 01:57:37.079 even before, you know, I had like a developed sense 1725 01:57:37.119 --> 01:57:42.199 of of a film is kind of like a medium. 1726 01:57:42.319 --> 01:57:45.279 Like I remember remember like in the seventies and eighties, 1727 01:57:45.319 --> 01:57:47.840 it'd be those like hobby table books like Leynard Multon's 1728 01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:50.640 Movie Guide or like the the Home Video Guide to 1729 01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:52.800 like movies, and it'd be like a thousand pages and 1730 01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:55.039 it'd be like right up, so like every movie you 1731 01:57:55.119 --> 01:57:58.439 can think of from you know, like the nineteen teens, 1732 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:02.760 like later Silent era, like until like the then President 1733 01:58:02.840 --> 01:58:05.159 of like nineteen eighty five or whatever. I'd like pour 1734 01:58:05.199 --> 01:58:09.880 over that shit for like hours, man, Like I you know, 1735 01:58:10.039 --> 01:58:14.119 like because I was always like a data junkie. But yeah, man, 1736 01:58:14.199 --> 01:58:17.239 and before Internet, that's also like how you found out 1737 01:58:17.279 --> 01:58:23.239 about like film titles, man, Like I remember A Future Kill, 1738 01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:25.680 which is a bizarre movie, Like I found that through 1739 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:29.000 there Christian f which was like really kind of shocking. 1740 01:58:29.039 --> 01:58:29.159 Man. 1741 01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:30.520 If you're like a kid in the eighties and know 1742 01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:35.279 that was that West German movie about uh you know kids, 1743 01:58:35.439 --> 01:58:39.039 uh like like homeless kids like who were strung out 1744 01:58:39.079 --> 01:58:41.760 of heroin and like West Berlin. That's I was poignant. 1745 01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:44.399 But I mean, you know stuff like that, Like I 1746 01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:46.760 I found that through like a Leonard Mountain movie guide 1747 01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:51.439 and I was lucky enough. And like Greater Chicago land 1748 01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:54.079 there was like a critical mass like independent video stores. 1749 01:58:54.119 --> 01:58:56.920 Even after Blockbuster kind of connered the landscapes, you could 1750 01:58:56.920 --> 01:58:59.479 you still find a lot of that stuff. But yeah, 1751 01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:01.399 it's a very good thing, man, this series. 1752 01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:04.760 I mean, all right, so yeah freemam me on the Wall, 1753 01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:07.800 dot Com, Forrest, Last Taxi Driver all one word and 1754 01:59:08.239 --> 01:59:13.119 uh well let's get to it Itolf Hitler is Foreign 1755 01:59:13.199 --> 01:59:16.640 Policy Episode three. How are you doing? Ready to go? 1756 01:59:17.239 --> 01:59:24.319 Yeah, you know, like I mentioned earlier, on I put 1757 01:59:24.399 --> 01:59:27.880 a I put a lot of premium in a lot 1758 01:59:27.960 --> 01:59:32.119 of these and sort of soft revisionist takes that have 1759 01:59:32.560 --> 01:59:36.560 crept into the mainstream. I means things are changing, you know, 1760 01:59:36.680 --> 01:59:40.359 and but biographies of historical personages are always going to 1761 01:59:40.479 --> 01:59:44.520 hit or miss. I mean, even people obviously aren't nearly 1762 01:59:44.600 --> 01:59:50.439 as controversy always Little Hitler, because you know, even even 1763 01:59:50.560 --> 01:59:54.800 even fairly objective historians, you know, they run the risk 1764 01:59:54.880 --> 02:00:01.640 of interpreting events and stayed and send even the documentary record, 1765 02:00:02.760 --> 02:00:05.720 they're kind of a lens of of of current affairs 1766 02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:12.840 and things. And I mentioned before that Brendan Simms his book, uh, 1767 02:00:13.039 --> 02:00:16.640 his twenty seventeen book hitlarc Glul biography, that's really great. 1768 02:00:16.760 --> 02:00:21.199 I consider it. I consider it a base. He be 1769 02:00:21.279 --> 02:00:23.840 on the level at John Toland's biography, and in terms 1770 02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:29.319 of its scholarly integrity. Obviously Toland I I, you know, 1771 02:00:29.359 --> 02:00:31.640 I Totland his book edges it out a bit because 1772 02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:37.279 Totland quite literally, you know, was able to access Hitler's 1773 02:00:37.319 --> 02:00:41.079 then living relatives, including his sister, and you know as 1774 02:00:41.119 --> 02:00:44.479 well as you know, people who'd served a third Reich 1775 02:00:44.600 --> 02:00:49.880 and critical capacities who wouldn't talk to anybody else but 1776 02:00:50.920 --> 02:00:58.199 Sims his book. Uh. The only other book that focus 1777 02:00:58.319 --> 02:01:02.199 is really on Hitler's g strategic vision and Hitler's view 1778 02:01:02.319 --> 02:01:06.760 of the United States, which is absolutely key understanding Hitler's worldview. 1779 02:01:07.279 --> 02:01:10.039 The only other book I found that deals with them 1780 02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:13.800 in a dedicated capacity is this old book from the 1781 02:01:13.920 --> 02:01:17.000 seventies that was put out by this Naval War college 1782 02:01:17.079 --> 02:01:21.560 type called Hitler Versus Roosevelt. And kind of the focus 1783 02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:24.279 of that book was the undeclared naval war between the 1784 02:01:24.399 --> 02:01:28.600 United States and the Third Reich, which carried on literally 1785 02:01:28.680 --> 02:01:30.560 for years for the form of regulation of the war. 1786 02:01:30.640 --> 02:01:34.720 And that was an early example of a kind of 1787 02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:41.640 revisionist text, you know, which of which you find in 1788 02:01:41.720 --> 02:01:45.399 that era, like in kind of military science type of 1789 02:01:47.840 --> 02:01:50.760 type of type of books, more than you would in 1790 02:01:50.840 --> 02:01:55.800 kind of like more broad historical treatments. But that was, 1791 02:01:56.359 --> 02:01:59.119 I mean, that was important. It was an important contribution. 1792 02:01:59.319 --> 02:02:02.600 But obviously, you know, again it focused kind of more 1793 02:02:02.640 --> 02:02:08.359 on in personal circumstances that you know, in that author's 1794 02:02:08.479 --> 02:02:11.279 estimation kind of put Hitler and Roosevelt in a collision course. 1795 02:02:12.479 --> 02:02:14.680 I take some exception to that, you know, Like I said, 1796 02:02:14.720 --> 02:02:22.199 I Hitler Hitler was not unsophisticated on geostrategic reality. He's 1797 02:02:22.239 --> 02:02:24.920 like quite the contrary, Like he really, he really did 1798 02:02:25.039 --> 02:02:28.840 have like a forward looking perspective and even more than 1799 02:02:29.640 --> 02:02:32.640 a lot of these, you know, people of aristocratic pedigree, 1800 02:02:32.640 --> 02:02:41.880 you was supposedly you know, more cosmopolitan the leanings, you know, 1801 02:02:41.920 --> 02:02:44.640 whether they're in the UK or Germany. Hitler, Hitler saw 1802 02:02:44.720 --> 02:02:50.760 things that they didn't and obviously owing to the brutality 1803 02:02:50.800 --> 02:02:52.159 of the war in the East, as well as the 1804 02:02:52.239 --> 02:02:57.960 kind of dialectical nuance of finational socialism, you know, like 1805 02:02:58.039 --> 02:03:01.199 people people a kind of view the Union, as you know, 1806 02:03:01.279 --> 02:03:03.800 as the as the mortal enemy of the German Reich 1807 02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:06.319 first last and always any kind of total existential terms, 1808 02:03:06.359 --> 02:03:11.439 that's the wrong way to look at it. And you know, 1809 02:03:11.479 --> 02:03:15.359 the degree to which Hitler himself, as well as kind 1810 02:03:15.359 --> 02:03:21.720 of any you know, any any kind of right Hegelian 1811 02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:27.199 which basically everybody was of Hitler's generation who you know, 1812 02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:33.600 had any kind of grand theory of geopolitics. They they viewed, 1813 02:03:33.680 --> 02:03:40.079 they viewed the kind of tragic course of uh Russo 1814 02:03:40.199 --> 02:03:43.920 German affairs to be something of an inevitability, you know, 1815 02:03:43.920 --> 02:03:48.000 almost like a phenomenon of nature. Germany's relationships to the 1816 02:03:48.079 --> 02:03:54.039 United States was totally different and promised a lot more 1817 02:03:54.119 --> 02:04:01.199 on uh on you know, ideological new wance that was 1818 02:04:01.319 --> 02:04:04.720 somewhat accidental. I don't even know what I mean by that. 1819 02:04:04.960 --> 02:04:08.920 But a point that Sims may be and I've always made, 1820 02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:13.199 is that people need to read Hitler's second book to 1821 02:04:13.279 --> 02:04:19.840 really understand what his perspective was. And there's a reason why, 1822 02:04:20.079 --> 02:04:25.680 in my opinion, Hitler after about nineteen twenty eight twenty nine, 1823 02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:29.600 you know, he he kind of put it to the side. 1824 02:04:30.800 --> 02:04:33.720 You know, I think, in my opinion, didn't feel that 1825 02:04:33.800 --> 02:04:37.000 the body politic and the electorate was really ready for 1826 02:04:38.439 --> 02:04:43.479 that kind of hard political realism, you know, and thus 1827 02:04:43.600 --> 02:04:46.039 there people read a kind of inconsistency in some of 1828 02:04:46.159 --> 02:04:50.920 Hitler's public statements, particularly after nineteen thirty, you know, God 1829 02:04:51.000 --> 02:04:52.800 for the second book, which I think is a misguided 1830 02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:54.279 I'll get in a way, I think that in a minute. 1831 02:04:54.319 --> 02:05:06.199 But by nineteen twenty eight, like people, people kind of 1832 02:05:06.199 --> 02:05:14.600 misunderstand that, uh, you know, the uh, the big people 1833 02:05:14.640 --> 02:05:16.439 of view kind of the National Sols Party is like 1834 02:05:16.520 --> 02:05:19.880 this crisis party that was only able to capitalize, you know, 1835 02:05:20.000 --> 02:05:25.640 and breakthrough during the years when you know, the global 1836 02:05:25.720 --> 02:05:28.640 depression like really kind of hit Germany hardest. I mean 1837 02:05:28.680 --> 02:05:31.119 that's true, and it's not. I mean, like obviously the 1838 02:05:31.199 --> 02:05:35.479 punctuated breakthroughs you know, like happened in those years. But 1839 02:05:35.640 --> 02:05:39.840 Hitler's overall kind of program it it wasn't just based 1840 02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:42.600 on quote resentment over Versailles. I mean, the Versite Treaty 1841 02:05:42.720 --> 02:05:45.840 wasn't in ethical terms and and turn in practical terms, 1842 02:05:45.880 --> 02:05:48.119 it wasn't worth the paper it was written on verbally, 1843 02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:53.880 but that wasn't that wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't just 1844 02:05:53.960 --> 02:05:57.319 a mirror uh like like protests, vote party or something. 1845 02:05:58.439 --> 02:06:07.800 The something Hitler constantly talked about in to Hess to 1846 02:06:07.960 --> 02:06:15.399 Gearing too, you know, his intimates all and sundry as 1847 02:06:15.399 --> 02:06:17.840 all as something he wrote about in the second book 1848 02:06:18.760 --> 02:06:21.359 was that the greatest that the one of the biggest 1849 02:06:21.399 --> 02:06:24.960 extential threats to Europe was was mass emigration, you know, 1850 02:06:25.279 --> 02:06:27.880 and every time, every time Europe was hit with the 1851 02:06:27.920 --> 02:06:31.960 punctuating crisis, you know, basically it lost you know, millions 1852 02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:37.399 of people over you know, over a century. And that's 1853 02:06:37.439 --> 02:06:42.479 exactly what it happened in Germany. A lot of people 1854 02:06:42.479 --> 02:06:45.920 attributed to Hitler, they say, you know, they They suggested 1855 02:06:46.000 --> 02:06:49.479 he borrowed the idea of a pan Europe, Pan Europa. 1856 02:06:52.159 --> 02:06:54.520 This idea was kind of first got public kind of 1857 02:06:56.560 --> 02:07:05.520 attention in you know, in the by marawenty three. This uh, 1858 02:07:05.920 --> 02:07:15.159 this hung this Halfsburg diplomat, Count Richard cotenhave Calary. He was. 1859 02:07:16.359 --> 02:07:18.800 He was the son of a of a Halfsburg diplomat. 1860 02:07:19.159 --> 02:07:22.119 He was a guy of aristocretic pretorie cedigree. He'd married 1861 02:07:22.159 --> 02:07:25.560 a Japanese woman, which is somewhat rare. I mean, there's 1862 02:07:25.560 --> 02:07:28.199 a lot of cultural exchange between Germany and Japan, but 1863 02:07:28.319 --> 02:07:32.479 like a Halfsburg Austrian aristocrat, like marrying a Japanese woman 1864 02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:38.199 was kinda it was unusual, you know. He was uh, 1865 02:07:41.720 --> 02:07:44.159 his his his ideas gained ground kind of as the 1866 02:07:44.359 --> 02:07:51.840 internal situation deteriorated in Europe vis a viva the you know, 1867 02:07:51.920 --> 02:07:56.239 the German economy and kind of the demands of the 1868 02:07:56.359 --> 02:08:01.159 reparations regime. He was a he was backed early on 1869 02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:07.800 by Max Varberg, who some people believe was uh what 1870 02:08:08.000 --> 02:08:11.880 was a side from the Rothschilds. But be as it may, 1871 02:08:12.079 --> 02:08:15.960 I mean whatever Calory. I don't know if he was 1872 02:08:16.039 --> 02:08:18.399 Jewish or not. I think he was part Jewish by 1873 02:08:19.039 --> 02:08:24.000 like heritage, but I don't he he did, in fact 1874 02:08:24.159 --> 02:08:28.760 have like a vision of Europe that with an eye 1875 02:08:28.800 --> 02:08:31.760 to render a Jewish strategically competitive. Like he wasn't just 1876 02:08:32.159 --> 02:08:35.800 he wasn't just some banker like looking to insinuate this 1877 02:08:36.000 --> 02:08:41.359 kind of you know, foe uh European ideology into what 1878 02:08:41.399 --> 02:08:46.439 I'm on to do a kind of you know, a 1879 02:08:46.560 --> 02:08:49.159 kind of the kind of a kind of program of 1880 02:08:49.279 --> 02:08:51.239 capitalist rape. And although I know a lot of his 1881 02:08:51.399 --> 02:08:54.399 detractors then and now like claim it, but because it 1882 02:08:54.520 --> 02:09:04.079 may heinrich amand a year so twenty four he drew 1883 02:09:04.119 --> 02:09:08.640 heavily upon keller GI's writings, and he published this kind 1884 02:09:08.680 --> 02:09:13.680 of popular circular calling for you know, a United States 1885 02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:15.880 of Europe to prevent you know, the con from becoming 1886 02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:20.000 an economic colony of America. Now, the key takeaway of 1887 02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:22.439 that again like Hitler didn't have any common truck with 1888 02:09:22.520 --> 02:09:27.079 people like Hilarity and man, but you know, the understanding 1889 02:09:27.199 --> 02:09:32.560 that America was really you know, if whether you're in Germany, 1890 02:09:32.600 --> 02:09:34.560 whether you're in Japan, whether you're in China, whether you 1891 02:09:34.640 --> 02:09:37.039 were in the Soviet Union, like your eyes were going 1892 02:09:37.079 --> 02:09:40.279 into America as to like the future of like your 1893 02:09:40.319 --> 02:09:43.920 great power opponent, okay, like that the degree to which 1894 02:09:44.000 --> 02:09:47.359 this was in the minds of people can't be overstated, okay. 1895 02:09:49.640 --> 02:09:52.880 And the degree to which American power, actual and potential 1896 02:09:53.079 --> 02:09:58.760 dwarfed basically like everybody else combined, like can't be overstated, okay. 1897 02:10:01.960 --> 02:10:11.800 And Hitler Hitler was very, very aware of this, and 1898 02:10:11.920 --> 02:10:14.359 honestly too, in the political culture of Baymar this was 1899 02:10:14.399 --> 02:10:17.159 something people kind of took for granted, you know, like 1900 02:10:17.239 --> 02:10:21.039 the Social Democrats and not even twenty five twenty six, 1901 02:10:22.479 --> 02:10:25.720 you know, as they were kind of trying to finesse 1902 02:10:26.439 --> 02:10:29.159 moderate voters, you know, kind of take it to strike 1903 02:10:29.239 --> 02:10:31.560 a more kind of like nationalist posture. I mean in 1904 02:10:31.640 --> 02:10:35.680 however milk Too's terms. You know, they were they were 1905 02:10:35.720 --> 02:10:37.319 talking about how the you know, the Europe needed some 1906 02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:39.279 going to integrate banking structure and not just to get 1907 02:10:39.319 --> 02:10:45.399 a handle on the reparations regime and to not you know, 1908 02:10:45.600 --> 02:10:48.840 be uh tethered to the force end of the pound 1909 02:10:48.880 --> 02:10:52.319 sterling at the American dollar. But you know, this was 1910 02:10:52.640 --> 02:10:55.800 this was the way forward, you know, like anything anything 1911 02:10:55.840 --> 02:11:05.199 else was a provincial in scope the uh, but it's 1912 02:11:05.199 --> 02:11:08.119 also there was Hitler had a lot of admiration for 1913 02:11:08.159 --> 02:11:10.279 the United States. You know, like we talked about before, 1914 02:11:11.479 --> 02:11:15.479 people thought it was weird when it came out that 1915 02:11:15.680 --> 02:11:23.680 uh at at at Eagles Nest. You know, like Hitler, 1916 02:11:23.800 --> 02:11:26.359 uh Hiler had a bunch of like uh Coca Cola 1917 02:11:26.479 --> 02:11:28.920 signs and stuff like in the parlor. Like Hitler loved 1918 02:11:28.920 --> 02:11:31.560 Coca Cola and he liked he liked bowling, like he 1919 02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:34.279 liked he like his favorite movie was King Kong. When 1920 02:11:34.319 --> 02:11:36.039 he was a kid, you know, he was into he 1921 02:11:36.159 --> 02:11:38.439 was into Western and stuff. You know, he he thought 1922 02:11:38.479 --> 02:11:41.039 like Hollywood was awesome. I mean, he had exception to 1923 02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:43.920 what he viewed as you know, it's the kind of 1924 02:11:44.039 --> 02:11:48.359 sinuation of Jewish values into into the movie industry. But 1925 02:11:48.439 --> 02:11:50.960 he was far from alone and in that take. But 1926 02:11:51.520 --> 02:11:53.960 his idea that Hitler was something like provincial like Habspurg 1927 02:11:54.039 --> 02:12:02.560 type hated America is complete nonsense, he you know, and 1928 02:12:02.760 --> 02:12:09.359 uh Germans all went to American movies, you know, like 1929 02:12:09.479 --> 02:12:16.119 from about nineteen twenty eight onward. You know, like basically 1930 02:12:16.279 --> 02:12:18.840 like if you went to the cinema, you we were 1931 02:12:18.880 --> 02:12:21.600 going to see like American movies. You know. There was 1932 02:12:21.720 --> 02:12:28.680 a the uh Transatlantic uh flights by airship during like 1933 02:12:28.760 --> 02:12:33.279 the brief sort of a sentence like airships as this 1934 02:12:33.439 --> 02:12:42.039 big you know kind of a you know, travel platform, 1935 02:12:42.600 --> 02:12:45.159 you know, like uh, like the big push was uh 1936 02:12:45.880 --> 02:12:48.600 to link you know, Berlin with like New York, you know, 1937 02:12:49.640 --> 02:12:51.760 as the ambition mean of course like turmed Berlin in 1938 02:12:51.960 --> 02:12:54.239 like this kind of like world city. You know, this 1939 02:12:54.439 --> 02:12:59.239 wasn't This was very much uh, this is very much 1940 02:12:59.439 --> 02:13:01.800 like German looking to emulate. They weren't looking at emulate France. 1941 02:13:01.840 --> 02:13:04.600 They weren't looking. People weren't looking other than people who 1942 02:13:04.680 --> 02:13:07.720 were who had been like radicalizing, you know, the streets 1943 02:13:07.720 --> 02:13:09.600 of Weimar, people who were just you know, kind of 1944 02:13:09.640 --> 02:13:13.800 already ideologically dedicated only to their own you know, kind 1945 02:13:13.840 --> 02:13:16.000 of like philosophical commitments. Like nobody in Germany was like 1946 02:13:16.079 --> 02:13:19.720 looking east the Soviet Union as a model society. You know, 1947 02:13:21.920 --> 02:13:24.680 they had, uh, they had they looked at America. They 1948 02:13:24.720 --> 02:13:32.159 admiration and you know, so like small Off and the 1949 02:13:32.359 --> 02:13:36.640 uh you know Frederick list uh who was considered kind 1950 02:13:36.640 --> 02:13:40.479 of like the father of U of German national economics, 1951 02:13:41.119 --> 02:13:44.319 you know, the guy he basically promised his entire paradigm 1952 02:13:44.399 --> 02:13:46.800 on Hamiltonian economics, you know, like and he and he 1953 02:13:47.079 --> 02:13:49.159 he openly acknowledged that. 1954 02:13:50.119 --> 02:13:53.640 You know, well, I mean he spent a lot of 1955 02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:54.920 time in the United States. 1956 02:13:55.560 --> 02:14:02.039 Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. And it's also the uh you 1957 02:14:02.079 --> 02:14:06.920 know Hitler also, Hillar had a keen understanding u he 1958 02:14:06.960 --> 02:14:12.600 had no illusions about uh about this about you know, 1959 02:14:12.640 --> 02:14:16.399 about the situation of of of Germany and like in 1960 02:14:16.560 --> 02:14:19.640 Europe in general. And henna do what I minute too, 1961 02:14:19.760 --> 02:14:24.039 like he now until not something like chauvinistic like nationalists 1962 02:14:24.119 --> 02:14:27.840 or whatever, but he like, if anything, he especially he 1963 02:14:27.880 --> 02:14:30.359 didn't say this on the campaign trail for obvious reasons, 1964 02:14:31.159 --> 02:14:34.760 but uh, you know, like we talked about before, you know, 1965 02:14:35.479 --> 02:14:39.319 this reputation of the national socialists being fixated on eugenics 1966 02:14:39.439 --> 02:14:42.560 is misplaced because if anything, you know, America and unless 1967 02:14:42.600 --> 02:14:44.520 you agree to Soviet Union, we're kind of like the 1968 02:14:45.079 --> 02:14:48.920 hub of that sort of thinking. But uh, you know, 1969 02:14:49.039 --> 02:14:53.840 Hitler believed that Europe was basically sickly, you know, spiritually, biologically, 1970 02:14:53.920 --> 02:14:55.960 every other way like conscou the United States, and he 1971 02:14:56.000 --> 02:14:59.119 talked about that constantly. You know, like Hillar didn't go 1972 02:14:59.199 --> 02:15:02.000 on saying like we're the master race, like quite quite 1973 02:15:02.039 --> 02:15:06.239 the contrary part of that deliberate like mistranslation, part of 1974 02:15:06.279 --> 02:15:08.960 that's just you know, like attributing kind of a caricaturish 1975 02:15:09.199 --> 02:15:13.960 view to you know, Europeans generally, and you know Hitler specifically, 1976 02:15:14.119 --> 02:15:22.399 but interestingly, you know Hitler also too. It went without saying, 1977 02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:25.159 you know, that that communism was a blight and had 1978 02:15:25.199 --> 02:15:28.000 to be eradicated. But I mean that was something that 1979 02:15:28.640 --> 02:15:32.239 again in dialectical terms, that was something that just was 1980 02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:36.600 it was was was taken for granted. You know, I 1981 02:15:36.680 --> 02:15:39.920 mean like you're going around trying to convince communists, like 1982 02:15:40.720 --> 02:15:43.960 you know, of the that they were misguided or or 1983 02:15:44.000 --> 02:15:46.680 trying to explain to people why, you know, it wouldn't 1984 02:15:46.720 --> 02:15:48.960 be good for there to be some kind of Soviet 1985 02:15:49.039 --> 02:15:52.560 revolution in Berlin, like you you know, you're you would 1986 02:15:52.560 --> 02:15:55.119 have been pissing into the winds to dedicate yourself with 1987 02:15:55.159 --> 02:15:59.079 those sorts of endeavors. But also again it you know 1988 02:15:59.159 --> 02:16:01.119 that the kind of you a communism was almost like 1989 02:16:01.680 --> 02:16:04.199 it was almost like it wasn't a mind virus or something, 1990 02:16:04.239 --> 02:16:06.319 you know, like it was almost people going with view 1991 02:16:06.319 --> 02:16:08.600 it almost like they would like BLM you know today, 1992 02:16:08.720 --> 02:16:11.840 but obviously exponentially more serious and more dangerous. Like it's 1993 02:16:11.920 --> 02:16:14.680 not it like goes out saying that they're your ops 1994 02:16:15.279 --> 02:16:18.359 like what what what people like Hitler actually engaged with. 1995 02:16:19.680 --> 02:16:24.199 You know, what the real danger was was explaining to 1996 02:16:24.279 --> 02:16:28.720 people why, you know, Europe had to basically carve out 1997 02:16:28.720 --> 02:16:33.159 an autonomous path or the situation at Germany and Europe 1998 02:16:33.360 --> 02:16:37.120 in general eventually would be connpertal that of colony, you know, 1999 02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:39.600 like Europe just become a colony the United States or 2000 02:16:39.719 --> 02:16:42.319 the Soviet Union, you know, if the Soviets militarily were 2001 02:16:42.360 --> 02:16:48.440 able to you know, subsume all other all other competing powers, 2002 02:16:49.719 --> 02:16:52.920 you know, just just by you know, at that point 2003 02:16:52.959 --> 02:16:58.639 of that bayonet, like figuratively and literally, you know, Hitler said, uh, 2004 02:16:59.719 --> 02:17:02.680 during the later stages of UH, you know, the kind 2005 02:17:02.719 --> 02:17:06.520 of campaign to the Reichstag in nineteen twenty eight for 2006 02:17:06.760 --> 02:17:09.399 for the you know, for richs that seeds, I mean uh, 2007 02:17:09.600 --> 02:17:12.879 Hitler said He'll compared German Germany to India, and like 2008 02:17:12.959 --> 02:17:15.840 the way that you know, he said that, uh on India, 2009 02:17:15.920 --> 02:17:18.680 like Britain allows like these Hindus like keep their princes 2010 02:17:18.760 --> 02:17:21.600 and their kings and it doesn't it doesn't divest you know, 2011 02:17:21.680 --> 02:17:25.000 these aristocrats and in the rods and their o their wealth. 2012 02:17:25.239 --> 02:17:27.440 I know, it'sn't pretend to have authority. But in reality, 2013 02:17:27.479 --> 02:17:30.799 these guys are you know, these guys are are ciphers, 2014 02:17:30.959 --> 02:17:34.479 you know, they're they're nobody's they're they're coolies who you know, 2015 02:17:34.600 --> 02:17:36.799 dressed up and kind of the glamour of of of 2016 02:17:36.879 --> 02:17:41.079 a sovereign court, you know. And you know, he said, 2017 02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:44.479 you know, anybody who thinks that, you know, the real 2018 02:17:44.600 --> 02:17:46.639 truth is not that you know, the Britain, that the 2019 02:17:46.879 --> 02:17:48.920 Britain is the lord and the Indian is the slave 2020 02:17:49.079 --> 02:17:52.840 is diluted, you know. And he said, uh, you know 2021 02:17:52.959 --> 02:17:56.920 the you know, Hitler wasn't suggesting, you know, some kind 2022 02:17:56.959 --> 02:17:59.280 of solidarity with kind of like you know, the wretched 2023 02:17:59.319 --> 02:18:02.479 and oppressed the earth or whatever, you know, but he 2024 02:18:03.680 --> 02:18:05.600 he was. He was saying that like basically, like this 2025 02:18:05.799 --> 02:18:08.040 is the way, this is the way we're viewed by 2026 02:18:08.079 --> 02:18:11.159 Europe and America, albeit for some of different reasons and 2027 02:18:11.239 --> 02:18:13.159 something I'm gonna too, at this point there was real 2028 02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:15.680 there was there was not There was no level laws 2029 02:18:15.760 --> 02:18:18.680 to be the UK and America at this juncture, and 2030 02:18:19.120 --> 02:18:24.319 as late really as uh the Edwardian era, the potential 2031 02:18:24.440 --> 02:18:29.559 for America and Britain like going to war, especially overclaims 2032 02:18:31.159 --> 02:18:36.319 in the Pacific, it was it was very real possibility. 2033 02:18:36.920 --> 02:18:39.719 You know. So it's like the Hitler talking about the 2034 02:18:39.879 --> 02:18:42.959 UK and America like having some convergence of interest but 2035 02:18:43.040 --> 02:18:46.719 also being ops actual potential. That's not something like weird 2036 02:18:46.760 --> 02:18:48.920 conceit of Hitler. That's the way everybody viewed it, because 2037 02:18:49.040 --> 02:18:53.079 that was that was the truth, you know, the uh 2038 02:18:54.920 --> 02:18:59.360 that ended because Churchill destroyed his country. He liquidated the 2039 02:18:59.399 --> 02:19:02.120 empire and literally sold it to America. I mean, like 2040 02:19:02.200 --> 02:19:05.399 had that not happened it you know, it's it's an 2041 02:19:05.440 --> 02:19:12.360 open ended question, but the uh. But the main you know, Hitler, 2042 02:19:14.879 --> 02:19:17.440 Hitler came back and again again and again to you know, 2043 02:19:17.680 --> 02:19:24.399 angle what he called Anglo Saxon capitalism. Okay, and he 2044 02:19:24.520 --> 02:19:28.239 distinguished He didn't say this was axiomatically the progeny of 2045 02:19:28.319 --> 02:19:31.479 the Jewish political mind. But he said that you know, 2046 02:19:31.479 --> 02:19:35.520 if you're talking at international finance and you're talking about 2047 02:19:35.559 --> 02:19:40.120 the UK and America, you know there's always going to 2048 02:19:40.200 --> 02:19:43.639 be like some aspect of Jewish power they're in. But 2049 02:19:44.799 --> 02:19:47.200 he said that that doesn't mean, like you said, even 2050 02:19:47.200 --> 02:19:49.639 though if we removed like jewelry from the equation, that 2051 02:19:49.719 --> 02:19:51.760 does not mean that like Wall Street in London is 2052 02:19:51.799 --> 02:19:54.559 our friend, you know, and this is what leads a 2053 02:19:54.600 --> 02:19:56.200 lot of people to say, like, oh, Hitler was just 2054 02:19:56.239 --> 02:19:58.799 a socialist or something like he was, but not in 2055 02:19:58.840 --> 02:20:01.520 the way that people are talking like those kinds of 2056 02:20:01.559 --> 02:20:06.479 people refer to. And you know, for context, one of 2057 02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:12.559 Hitler's big targets was Parker Gilbert. Parker Gilbert died young, 2058 02:20:12.639 --> 02:20:14.520 he was only in his like early to mid forties. 2059 02:20:15.319 --> 02:20:18.000 He was most known for was being the Agent general 2060 02:20:18.200 --> 02:20:23.600 for the reparations to Germany from nineteen twenty four to 2061 02:20:23.920 --> 02:20:27.959 about the middle of nineteen thirty and afterwards, interestingly, he 2062 02:20:28.120 --> 02:20:31.000 became an associated JP Morgan. You know, as we talked 2063 02:20:31.000 --> 02:20:33.840 about before, like if you don't understand the degree with 2064 02:20:34.000 --> 02:20:38.200 JP Morgan, you know had I mean JP Morgan was 2065 02:20:38.280 --> 02:20:40.600 Wall Street in those days, Okay, Like they they're kind 2066 02:20:40.600 --> 02:20:42.559 of like the Goldman Sacks of their day, all right, 2067 02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:46.239 And the degree with JP Morgan was insinuated into the 2068 02:20:47.360 --> 02:20:49.079 you know, kind of forcing the decision to go to 2069 02:20:49.159 --> 02:20:51.639 war on the on the Wilson White House, you know, 2070 02:20:51.760 --> 02:20:53.959 Hitler saying like, look, okay, like you don't believe me, 2071 02:20:54.079 --> 02:20:56.280 Like what's Parker Gilbert? You know, like why is our 2072 02:20:56.319 --> 02:20:58.639 economy basically in the hands of this guy. You know, 2073 02:20:58.719 --> 02:21:02.440 I mean that they can't be denying, you know, so 2074 02:21:02.479 --> 02:21:05.079 I mean this was uh, you know, like again the 2075 02:21:05.239 --> 02:21:07.440 uh acting like it was something acting like I mean 2076 02:21:07.479 --> 02:21:09.959 these things, especially anybody acting like it's some benign thing. 2077 02:21:11.440 --> 02:21:15.600 But uh, your national wealth being divested by you know, 2078 02:21:15.760 --> 02:21:20.399 Wall Street and uh you know kind of uh you know, 2079 02:21:20.520 --> 02:21:26.040 the uh your your your currency being bottomed out by 2080 02:21:26.079 --> 02:21:29.200 the repeating of a reparations regime. Like anybody who thinks 2081 02:21:29.200 --> 02:21:30.799 that like that's some benign thing, I don't know what 2082 02:21:30.879 --> 02:21:35.760 to tell them. Okay, but this wasn't This wasn't uh, 2083 02:21:36.600 --> 02:21:39.000 this wasn't as Hitler and something like vestigil like Marxist 2084 02:21:39.079 --> 02:21:41.360 sympathies or something. I know, some people like to claim that, 2085 02:21:42.479 --> 02:21:44.399 you know, during the bymur years, he was taken in 2086 02:21:44.520 --> 02:21:49.120 by by the KPD briefly. Most is nonsense, but that 2087 02:21:50.879 --> 02:21:53.639 but that's what uh, that's the reason why he's constantly 2088 02:21:53.719 --> 02:21:57.200 talking about capitalists photo capitalists, and also too, I mean 2089 02:21:57.280 --> 02:22:02.239 the you know, the uh, the KPD was basically beaten 2090 02:22:02.360 --> 02:22:06.040 by this point, and you know, they they lost the streets, 2091 02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:09.719 you know, like, uh, there was still a threat, you know, 2092 02:22:11.760 --> 02:22:14.639 and kind of the final it wasn't until uh the 2093 02:22:14.799 --> 02:22:21.000 Enabling Act incident to uh, you know, to to the 2094 02:22:21.079 --> 02:22:24.959 Reichstag fire, which was in fact set by a communist 2095 02:22:25.120 --> 02:22:29.159 you know, van Lieb or Loube. But the UH, I 2096 02:22:29.239 --> 02:22:33.159 mean now that it wasn't until they were formerly banned 2097 02:22:33.159 --> 02:22:35.799 as a you know, what amounts a terrorist organization that 2098 02:22:35.879 --> 02:22:38.680 they were no longer effect or. But it wasn't that, 2099 02:22:38.879 --> 02:22:41.520 you know, the political culture of Germany in nineteen thirty 2100 02:22:41.639 --> 02:22:44.719 like wasn't orbiting around like you know, people weren't debating 2101 02:22:44.799 --> 02:22:49.719 in Reichstag sessions like the legitimacy of Marxism. I mean, 2102 02:22:49.840 --> 02:22:54.360 like this was the issue in existential terms on the table, 2103 02:22:54.879 --> 02:22:58.120 you know, like whether when the reparations regime could be 2104 02:22:58.159 --> 02:23:00.719 rendered benign. You know what, there's some kind of like 2105 02:23:00.760 --> 02:23:05.319 complex interdependence with America, which meant essentially, you know, like 2106 02:23:05.440 --> 02:23:09.200 subjugating the German economy to that of Wall Street. Is 2107 02:23:09.239 --> 02:23:11.479 there some way out of this or some way like 2108 02:23:11.559 --> 02:23:18.040 within this paradigm whereby you know, Germany survives as as 2109 02:23:18.079 --> 02:23:21.680 an autonomous political culture. Like that's what was on the table, okay, 2110 02:23:23.600 --> 02:23:28.239 And that's why that's why that's why Hillary's emphasis comes 2111 02:23:28.319 --> 02:23:31.239 back again and again. You know, the capitalism and the 2112 02:23:31.319 --> 02:23:33.440 capitalist details. It is not because he was some sort 2113 02:23:33.440 --> 02:23:36.079 of like occulted Marxist or something or whatever. People say 2114 02:23:39.200 --> 02:23:42.719 the UH and you know again too like it wasn't 2115 02:23:45.280 --> 02:23:50.120 the UH the reparations or agime like the DAWs Plan. 2116 02:23:50.239 --> 02:23:53.000 Hillary was always saying that don't speak to me of 2117 02:23:53.079 --> 02:23:56.559 constitutions and the Weimar Constitution. He said, our three constitutions 2118 02:23:56.600 --> 02:23:58.680 are in the Versailles Treaty, the Dawes Plan, in our 2119 02:23:59.000 --> 02:24:02.799 in the little Kernel pack, and the DAWs Plant specifically. 2120 02:24:03.799 --> 02:24:06.040 You know, you had UH, you had Parker Gilbert and 2121 02:24:06.159 --> 02:24:12.559 his cronies intervening essentially as UH as the French were threatening, 2122 02:24:12.680 --> 02:24:16.280 you know, occupation of the roarers kind of there. It's 2123 02:24:16.360 --> 02:24:19.200 kind of their damnically sore and if they weren't paid 2124 02:24:19.520 --> 02:24:22.079 what they believe they were own Italian manner, you know, 2125 02:24:22.239 --> 02:24:27.799 Dawes said, the Dowes basically advocated like taking the German 2126 02:24:28.000 --> 02:24:35.920 UH National Railway Company as collateral and you know, I 2127 02:24:35.959 --> 02:24:39.440 mean all UH revenue from the tariff and tax regime 2128 02:24:39.920 --> 02:24:42.399 essentially being put in his hands, in the hands of 2129 02:24:42.440 --> 02:24:45.719 the Reparations committee, which was the fact, oh JP Morgan, 2130 02:24:46.079 --> 02:24:49.239 you know, and from there like they'd you know, they'd uh, 2131 02:24:50.760 --> 02:24:56.479 they'd integrate, uh, they'd integrate these public revenues that the 2132 02:24:56.520 --> 02:24:58.879 Berlin government was receiving and be like kind of the 2133 02:24:58.879 --> 02:25:01.600 middleman with France, you know, agains. They saw a fit, 2134 02:25:02.399 --> 02:25:03.920 you know, and this was this this was the big 2135 02:25:04.040 --> 02:25:06.319 plan to like dig Germany out. You know, it was 2136 02:25:06.440 --> 02:25:13.479 essentially allowing J. K. Morgan to to loot, to loot 2137 02:25:13.680 --> 02:25:16.159 the public conference as they saw fit, you know, I mean, 2138 02:25:16.200 --> 02:25:18.760 and that's I mean, I think about it, like think 2139 02:25:18.799 --> 02:25:21.440 about it like Americans freak the funk out about uh, 2140 02:25:22.760 --> 02:25:24.959 you know when they think uh, like when they think 2141 02:25:24.959 --> 02:25:30.159 they're paying too much and uh and in real estate Texas, 2142 02:25:30.239 --> 02:25:32.079 which is no small thing. I mean, I I I 2143 02:25:32.399 --> 02:25:34.639 feel the bird of that too. I mean it's like 2144 02:25:34.959 --> 02:25:37.239 people like, oh, Hitler was just making them out out 2145 02:25:37.280 --> 02:25:39.159 of a mobile about this whole Versailles thing. It's like, 2146 02:25:39.239 --> 02:25:42.079 you fucking serious, you know, it's like come on. But 2147 02:25:43.639 --> 02:25:46.040 and of course too, like people during by Maar, I mean, 2148 02:25:46.120 --> 02:25:48.920 they're in the Viymar regime. They they h this is 2149 02:25:49.040 --> 02:25:53.920 most by by the time of the of the the 2150 02:25:54.440 --> 02:25:57.840 the breakthrough, this was mostly they had mostly abated, but 2151 02:25:58.360 --> 02:26:01.040 people were starving. You know, maybe I mean the point 2152 02:26:01.079 --> 02:26:05.440 about horses vessel, horst vessel, you know his uh corn 2153 02:26:05.559 --> 02:26:07.520 historians and the comments at the time claimed he was 2154 02:26:07.559 --> 02:26:11.280 a quote unquote pimp because like his his living girlfriend 2155 02:26:11.440 --> 02:26:13.200 was a prostitute, Like you don't know why she was 2156 02:26:13.239 --> 02:26:16.319 a prostitute. Like a lot of women became prostitute, so 2157 02:26:16.360 --> 02:26:19.559 they were starving. I mean like that that's that that 2158 02:26:19.799 --> 02:26:22.239 that's the situation. I mean, when it becomes normal for 2159 02:26:22.280 --> 02:26:24.479 we're going to be selling themselves because you know, there's 2160 02:26:24.479 --> 02:26:27.360 no other option. I mean, like think about like America's 2161 02:26:27.360 --> 02:26:29.600 never read to live in those conditions, man, like they haven't. 2162 02:26:29.719 --> 02:26:32.559 I mean, like people were addicted or people who have 2163 02:26:33.479 --> 02:26:37.559 you know, fallen on terrible circumstances for reous reasons. I mean, yeah, 2164 02:26:37.600 --> 02:26:40.360 that happens to them. But like categorically or something like 2165 02:26:40.440 --> 02:26:42.959 prostitution becomes normal, so no one isn'tthing to eat, Like 2166 02:26:43.000 --> 02:26:45.719 we can't even imagine that. I mean, that's that's that's 2167 02:26:45.760 --> 02:26:51.920 where people were coming from here. And you know that's uh, 2168 02:26:52.559 --> 02:26:56.000 that's what owes to the kind of uh you know, 2169 02:26:56.040 --> 02:26:59.920 the kind of focus of the the National Socials part. 2170 02:27:01.479 --> 02:27:07.520 But it's also the problem with the National Socialist Party 2171 02:27:07.719 --> 02:27:10.520 even into like nineteen twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty. I mean, 2172 02:27:10.600 --> 02:27:16.120 really this is outside the scope, but interlay the nineteen 2173 02:27:16.200 --> 02:27:23.360 thirty four incident, you know, the the ramp coach. I mean, 2174 02:27:23.360 --> 02:27:25.120 there's a lot of intrigues there, but I mean the 2175 02:27:25.239 --> 02:27:29.079 kind of the over kind of the overarching impetus was, uh, 2176 02:27:31.239 --> 02:27:35.440 the need to to eradicate you know, divisions in the 2177 02:27:35.559 --> 02:27:38.959 party just you know, by a final uh and violent 2178 02:27:39.799 --> 02:27:45.440 executive decision. Germany's fatal the fatal flaw in the German 2179 02:27:45.479 --> 02:27:51.719 playb culture. With these fractures, you know, foreign policy was 2180 02:27:51.760 --> 02:27:57.040 still highly disputed. Rosenberg and you know, the most of 2181 02:27:57.040 --> 02:28:00.559 the Baltic German faction within the party, as well as 2182 02:28:00.559 --> 02:28:03.440 a lot of the Prussian military element, they were insisting 2183 02:28:03.520 --> 02:28:06.200 that the Soviet Union was you know, was uh what 2184 02:28:06.440 --> 02:28:09.440 was the ideological lene me like everything else is secondary. 2185 02:28:11.000 --> 02:28:14.680 Obviously the Strassers as well as Girls himself, interestingly, they 2186 02:28:14.719 --> 02:28:17.280 did the Soviet Union as like a key evidential ally 2187 02:28:17.360 --> 02:28:21.520 against Anglo America, the South Tyrol issue, and obviously you 2188 02:28:21.559 --> 02:28:26.000 know Hitler courting Mussolini, you know this, uh and and 2189 02:28:26.120 --> 02:28:30.840 ultimately South Tyrol was was was seated in its entirety 2190 02:28:30.920 --> 02:28:33.200 to the King of Italy. You know, this big this 2191 02:28:33.360 --> 02:28:37.959 was like a sore point for a lot of German racialists, 2192 02:28:37.959 --> 02:28:39.719 you know, like Hitler's selling out our people. You know, 2193 02:28:39.879 --> 02:28:42.520 he's for the sake of a you know something a 2194 02:28:42.600 --> 02:28:48.200 geotoggic vision. They may not come to fruition, you know, 2195 02:28:48.719 --> 02:28:56.879 the uh. And this uh, you know, this was not 2196 02:28:57.239 --> 02:29:04.040 this was not workable. And despite uh, despite the fact 2197 02:29:04.040 --> 02:29:06.239 that people always talking about like America, especially in this 2198 02:29:06.360 --> 02:29:11.280 era and in the preceding epoch, you know, the World 2199 02:29:11.280 --> 02:29:14.520 War One era as being like oh, in America, you know, 2200 02:29:14.639 --> 02:29:18.479 we we debate all possibilities like this. That's that's total bullshit. 2201 02:29:18.799 --> 02:29:20.639 You know, like when a policy course has decided war 2202 02:29:20.719 --> 02:29:23.479 in peace terms or economic terms, like America just does 2203 02:29:23.559 --> 02:29:25.479 it like after the wars were in the States, like 2204 02:29:25.959 --> 02:29:28.399 just like that kind of discussion, just like and that 2205 02:29:28.520 --> 02:29:33.559 was all done, okay. And this is one of this 2206 02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:36.719 is one of the big reasons for the fury prince him. 2207 02:29:36.760 --> 02:29:39.600 It's not because like Hilller was some control freak or 2208 02:29:39.639 --> 02:29:42.680 he just thought it was really great too to play 2209 02:29:44.719 --> 02:29:49.440 leader or something. And you know, the uh. Early on 2210 02:29:49.479 --> 02:29:52.479 in his career he treated these like various separatist types. 2211 02:29:53.120 --> 02:29:58.079 You know, in these various these various regional parties all 2212 02:29:58.120 --> 02:30:01.280 on Sundry, you know, who kind of wanted to sabotage 2213 02:30:01.319 --> 02:30:03.799 any kind of centralized government in Berlin. You know, he 2214 02:30:03.879 --> 02:30:06.600 treated these people as much as as big enemies as 2215 02:30:06.600 --> 02:30:13.680 the Communist because again, they these like these these people 2216 02:30:13.680 --> 02:30:15.680 are kind of like tools today, like in the oldest 2217 02:30:15.719 --> 02:30:18.440 block where like you'll hold themselves like, yeah, I'm luck 2218 02:30:18.440 --> 02:30:21.239 at Ukrainian nationalists. It's like your ass is literally owned 2219 02:30:21.319 --> 02:30:25.120 by Wall Street. But like as long as you like 2220 02:30:25.159 --> 02:30:27.399 go around like weaving like a little flag and pretending 2221 02:30:27.559 --> 02:30:30.280 like you know, you're you're some kind of sovereign like 2222 02:30:30.399 --> 02:30:34.479 micro state, like you're you know, you think you're like 2223 02:30:34.559 --> 02:30:35.639 a fucking pig and shit. 2224 02:30:35.760 --> 02:30:37.079 But the. 2225 02:30:39.079 --> 02:30:42.680 You know, and uh, it was right around this time, 2226 02:30:43.479 --> 02:30:46.680 like around nineteen twenty eight that's when Hitler uh As 2227 02:30:46.799 --> 02:30:52.479 Hitler began writing the second book, and for about eighteen 2228 02:30:52.520 --> 02:30:55.559 months subsequent after the election cycle nineteen twenty eight, you know, 2229 02:30:55.639 --> 02:31:01.719 he worked on it pretty consistently. You know. It's uh 2230 02:31:02.559 --> 02:31:06.959 and again, the the over the overarching theme of the 2231 02:31:07.040 --> 02:31:10.360 second book is the is it's the overwhelming power of 2232 02:31:10.399 --> 02:31:14.680 angle America and especially the United States that theme was 2233 02:31:14.760 --> 02:31:17.120 in Mine comp But what Mine comps a totally even 2234 02:31:17.239 --> 02:31:19.879 kind of book again Mine comp with an election season appeal. 2235 02:31:21.879 --> 02:31:25.479 The second book is quite literally like Hitler's geostrategic vision 2236 02:31:25.639 --> 02:31:27.959 and is like he diagnosed this to like the world 2237 02:31:28.040 --> 02:31:33.479 of nineteen twenty eight. Okay, Hitler literally said, quote, the 2238 02:31:33.520 --> 02:31:36.719 American Union has created a power factor of such dimensions 2239 02:31:36.719 --> 02:31:39.680 that it threatens to overthrow all previous state power rankings. 2240 02:31:42.639 --> 02:31:45.680 He said, there's probably a question of literal space, you know, 2241 02:31:45.920 --> 02:31:52.239 uh gross rum. He made the point that aboriginal elements, 2242 02:31:52.360 --> 02:31:56.479 you know, like Native Americans, if you will. Obviously they 2243 02:31:56.520 --> 02:32:00.559 were both divided, you know, by tribe, language, death knows, 2244 02:32:00.840 --> 02:32:03.000 as well as being relatively thin on the ground compared 2245 02:32:03.000 --> 02:32:05.399 to the size of the continent. So there were easy 2246 02:32:05.479 --> 02:32:13.959 pickings for you know, a uh, a conquering population animated 2247 02:32:14.040 --> 02:32:18.639 by uh you know, kind of an almost theological period 2248 02:32:18.639 --> 02:32:22.719 of a man of his destiny. And also the uh, 2249 02:32:23.479 --> 02:32:26.920 the relationship between the population size and the territory extent. 2250 02:32:28.440 --> 02:32:31.799 It's just like awesome, Like literally it's just massive, you know. 2251 02:32:31.879 --> 02:32:34.639 Like Hitler wrote that this is like inconceivable of the Europeans, 2252 02:32:34.959 --> 02:32:37.360 you know, especially because I mean again like Europe. In 2253 02:32:37.520 --> 02:32:42.200 the Europe's a tiny peninsula. Really, it's it's got no 2254 02:32:42.959 --> 02:32:47.559 it's impossible to defend it in depth. You know, it's 2255 02:32:47.639 --> 02:32:53.520 got uh you know, no no natural barriers between itself 2256 02:32:53.600 --> 02:32:56.319 and you know that the other in the East. You know, 2257 02:32:56.479 --> 02:32:59.959 it's like America's if you're gonna, if you're gonna draw 2258 02:33:00.120 --> 02:33:04.879 sort of a perfect geostrategic situation for a people like 2259 02:33:05.000 --> 02:33:07.920 you basically draw the United States of America, you know, 2260 02:33:07.959 --> 02:33:14.079 like assuming assuming their ops in terms of ability to 2261 02:33:14.120 --> 02:33:18.399 project power are where you know, the British and the 2262 02:33:18.479 --> 02:33:21.719 Spanish were, respectively, when you know, America fought them off 2263 02:33:21.760 --> 02:33:24.760 and essentially kicked them out of the the New World. 2264 02:33:25.120 --> 02:33:28.600 But uh, you know, it's there's nothing, there's nothing comparable 2265 02:33:28.719 --> 02:33:34.120 to to it in history. And again uh, Hitler was 2266 02:33:34.680 --> 02:33:39.120 correct as assessment. He said, the United States had as 2267 02:33:39.200 --> 02:33:41.239 of the time of you know, as of the world 2268 02:33:41.280 --> 02:33:45.200 of nineteen twenty eight, ninety thirty, probably fifty percent of 2269 02:33:45.280 --> 02:33:48.440 the of the available natural resource of this planet. You know, 2270 02:33:51.440 --> 02:33:55.719 it's industry not only had you know what it was, 2271 02:33:55.799 --> 02:33:58.040 not only the end of the world, and it captured 2272 02:33:59.399 --> 02:34:01.879 you know, market son on every continent. Even by the 2273 02:34:02.000 --> 02:34:05.680 nineteen twenties. But even even if all that went away, 2274 02:34:05.959 --> 02:34:08.879 like even an event of some total emergency, you know, 2275 02:34:09.159 --> 02:34:12.120 if America could had only to rely on its domestic market, 2276 02:34:12.319 --> 02:34:15.120 like it could still can still survive and arguably thrive, 2277 02:34:15.760 --> 02:34:18.840 you know, like the like if area's internal market was 2278 02:34:20.399 --> 02:34:24.280 was uh, what was greater than the British empires? Like 2279 02:34:24.399 --> 02:34:28.040 an entirety of capital and like that's that's totally insane, 2280 02:34:28.920 --> 02:34:33.799 you know. And uh, Hitler made the point again and 2281 02:34:33.840 --> 02:34:36.639 again in my comp or I'm in the second book 2282 02:34:36.719 --> 02:34:43.760 that like European statesmen like don't understand this. And Hitler 2283 02:34:43.840 --> 02:34:47.440 then talked about England and America and Germany and race, 2284 02:34:47.920 --> 02:34:53.399 and interestingly, again he had a pretty unflattering diagnosis of 2285 02:34:53.440 --> 02:34:57.959 his own people. Hitler said that basically the greatest people 2286 02:34:58.040 --> 02:35:00.799 who ever lived are the Anglo sax He said that 2287 02:35:00.799 --> 02:35:04.000 the Anglo Saxons were truly like the master race, the 2288 02:35:04.079 --> 02:35:06.360 world's like master race the era on which we live, 2289 02:35:06.760 --> 02:35:12.280 like anybody alive. And then then in present okay, he said, 2290 02:35:12.319 --> 02:35:15.239 the key to British power was that you had this 2291 02:35:15.399 --> 02:35:17.799 like you had this like critical racial value of Anglo 2292 02:35:17.840 --> 02:35:24.799 Saxon dumb that was able to conquer the political culture 2293 02:35:24.840 --> 02:35:30.000 in Britain entirely, uh you know, and then perpetuate itself, 2294 02:35:32.040 --> 02:35:35.120 you know, and kind of developed, uh it developed this 2295 02:35:35.200 --> 02:35:39.079 like rigid cast based society where the leadership cast was 2296 02:35:39.239 --> 02:35:44.239 uh it viewed. It's it's like whole raison detra as, 2297 02:35:44.959 --> 02:35:47.879 you know, being like lordship over this enterprise that they 2298 02:35:47.920 --> 02:35:50.040 had created that they believed it had been like you know, 2299 02:35:50.200 --> 02:35:56.719 conferred upon them by providence. Hitler said that because of 2300 02:35:56.799 --> 02:36:01.479 this sort of cultural and expanation over time and this 2301 02:36:01.680 --> 02:36:04.600 kind of like unwavering like master casts believe in in 2302 02:36:04.680 --> 02:36:08.360 the in themselves. He said that. Uh. He said that 2303 02:36:08.440 --> 02:36:11.200 one in with bas able to colonize you know, this 2304 02:36:11.440 --> 02:36:16.200 entire planet. And meanwhile, like their leadership cadres like whoever 2305 02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:19.479 saw like the motherland again like maintained like nevertheless their 2306 02:36:19.559 --> 02:36:21.959 link to like the host culture and like to the 2307 02:36:22.000 --> 02:36:30.959 Angle Saxon race, which is absolutely true it uh. Hitler said, 2308 02:36:31.000 --> 02:36:36.000 you know this is why you know the Angle Saxon 2309 02:36:36.079 --> 02:36:40.479 he's like totally outclassed as like the German of nineteen thirty. Okay, 2310 02:36:43.600 --> 02:36:45.520 he said the other he said, the reason the United 2311 02:36:45.520 --> 02:36:48.479 States is so dangerous is because he said, well, you know, 2312 02:36:48.600 --> 02:36:51.079 he's like the United States said he has said it 2313 02:36:51.200 --> 02:36:56.000 a core of this angle Saxon population that was just referenced, 2314 02:36:56.440 --> 02:36:58.760 like when these people saw the like endless horizon of 2315 02:36:58.840 --> 02:37:01.799 the new World, they realized that they could quite literally 2316 02:37:01.920 --> 02:37:04.440 like invent the new world in their own image, you know, 2317 02:37:04.840 --> 02:37:07.879 and they no longer had to take a knee before anybody, 2318 02:37:08.600 --> 02:37:12.520 you know. And he said that the influence, like the 2319 02:37:12.639 --> 02:37:18.280 massed influx of immigration, of immigration from Germany, which by 2320 02:37:19.760 --> 02:37:23.879 from from from the treaty wasphalure until it was writing, 2321 02:37:24.159 --> 02:37:27.959 amounted to about six million people. And Hitler said, like 2322 02:37:28.159 --> 02:37:30.440 this was the cream of the crop of like European 2323 02:37:31.159 --> 02:37:34.040 the like of European people, you know. He's like, so 2324 02:37:34.200 --> 02:37:36.319 in America, he's like you had. He's like you have 2325 02:37:36.440 --> 02:37:39.440 this like core of angle, sex and leadership like utterly ruthless, 2326 02:37:39.479 --> 02:37:45.120 utterly committed to its own posterity, like utterly insatiable in 2327 02:37:45.200 --> 02:37:48.280 his desire to like dominate the planet. He's like and 2328 02:37:48.520 --> 02:37:51.440 like the mentioned material they presided over were basically like 2329 02:37:51.559 --> 02:37:54.479 millions of the best of like you know, Central Europe 2330 02:37:54.520 --> 02:37:57.760 and Germany, you know, who realized like, oh, you're diminishing 2331 02:37:57.879 --> 02:38:00.719 fortunes like on the continent, you know, in those days, 2332 02:38:00.760 --> 02:38:03.520 immigranting to America was you were like taking your life 2333 02:38:03.559 --> 02:38:05.479 in your own hands. It was the opposite of today, 2334 02:38:05.600 --> 02:38:07.639 where it's like, you know, the world empties out there 2335 02:38:07.840 --> 02:38:10.319 jails and send them to America. You know, like if 2336 02:38:10.319 --> 02:38:14.280 you had like like you could become rich beyond your 2337 02:38:14.280 --> 02:38:17.399 wild's dreams in America, but you also might also like 2338 02:38:17.559 --> 02:38:21.440 die you know and like it uh it uh you 2339 02:38:22.120 --> 02:38:25.799 you had to have a tremendous I just surviving the 2340 02:38:25.879 --> 02:38:27.840 journey over here, you know what I mean, Like was 2341 02:38:28.200 --> 02:38:31.239 wasn't ort deal, you know, Saylers said basically like the 2342 02:38:31.280 --> 02:38:32.879 people and you get up and go, like got up 2343 02:38:32.920 --> 02:38:34.879 and win. He's like the best of like the white 2344 02:38:35.000 --> 02:38:37.479 race like lives in America. He's like, you can't dispute that. 2345 02:38:38.200 --> 02:38:40.879 He's like, yeah, there's He's like American culture might be vulgar. 2346 02:38:41.440 --> 02:38:44.319 He's like, uh, you know, there might. He's like there 2347 02:38:44.399 --> 02:38:47.639 might be like deformities within it. He's like it might 2348 02:38:47.680 --> 02:38:50.760 suffer from the absence of uh you know, like like 2349 02:38:50.959 --> 02:38:53.719 like cultural patrons. But he's like, you can't say that 2350 02:38:54.079 --> 02:38:56.239 they're not like the master race, because they are. He's 2351 02:38:56.239 --> 02:38:59.520 like they're the best racial material. And he's like, you know, 2352 02:38:59.680 --> 02:39:02.399 they and he's like there, he's like to that. He's like, 2353 02:39:02.440 --> 02:39:04.319 the Americans are self aware of this. He's like, that's 2354 02:39:04.360 --> 02:39:07.120 why they're And he's right, Hitler's writing right with the 2355 02:39:07.200 --> 02:39:09.479 nineteen twenty five immigration acts, and he made the point. 2356 02:39:09.520 --> 02:39:12.719 He's like he's like American entire He's like, he's like 2357 02:39:12.760 --> 02:39:15.440 America is continuing to like siphon off like the best 2358 02:39:15.479 --> 02:39:19.280 of Europe. He's like, well, privileging you know, Scandinavians and 2359 02:39:19.360 --> 02:39:22.040 Germans and you know in English, you know, and he's 2360 02:39:22.159 --> 02:39:24.920 like limiting the number of slots and Latins and basically 2361 02:39:24.959 --> 02:39:28.040 excluding like Japanese and Chinese from immigratings. They view them 2362 02:39:28.079 --> 02:39:31.159 as like they're their probable adversaries, you know, in the 2363 02:39:31.280 --> 02:39:35.239 kind of great game of of a of a of 2364 02:39:35.360 --> 02:39:37.959 Velt's politique. I mean, all this stuff is true, and 2365 02:39:38.040 --> 02:39:40.639 that is the way the Americans viewed themselves, you know, 2366 02:39:40.760 --> 02:39:46.520 like this and for context, like Hitler literally fought the 2367 02:39:46.600 --> 02:39:50.040 American infantry, you know, like as like he was saying, 2368 02:39:50.239 --> 02:39:55.399 like he I mean, it's something it's been said that 2369 02:39:56.079 --> 02:39:59.000 like if you know a race of people, like there's 2370 02:39:59.040 --> 02:40:01.280 no way to know them intimately than if he like 2371 02:40:02.120 --> 02:40:05.879 had sex with them. Or killed them. Okay, and there's 2372 02:40:05.920 --> 02:40:08.200 something to that. I wouldn't characterize it that way, but 2373 02:40:09.040 --> 02:40:12.600 it's not wrong, you know, like the idea like Hill 2374 02:40:12.639 --> 02:40:14.920 the was some bumpkin, It's like, well, apparently he wasn't 2375 02:40:15.000 --> 02:40:18.200 man he and he fought, uh, he fought. He literally 2376 02:40:18.280 --> 02:40:23.559 fought the US army, you know, after uh, you know, 2377 02:40:23.600 --> 02:40:25.840 after having faced down the British and the French. And 2378 02:40:26.559 --> 02:40:28.399 like what he wrote about in his later years was 2379 02:40:28.440 --> 02:40:31.639 how the American army was tough as nails and and 2380 02:40:32.079 --> 02:40:35.440 were these incredibly robust, like like horrid people who were 2381 02:40:35.479 --> 02:40:39.760 like the sons who left us centuries before, you know, 2382 02:40:39.920 --> 02:40:43.440 like grown like bigger and stronger and faster and smarter 2383 02:40:43.520 --> 02:40:46.719 than we are, you know, and it was devastating, you know. 2384 02:40:46.760 --> 02:40:49.280 I mean that's he didn't he didn't say something like 2385 02:40:49.360 --> 02:40:51.000 that about the Tommy. He didn't say anything like that 2386 02:40:51.159 --> 02:40:54.040 with the French. He was talking about the Americans. You know. 2387 02:40:55.799 --> 02:41:00.520 Do you think this is why so many people want 2388 02:41:00.559 --> 02:41:04.879 to claim that the book is a forgery, because they've 2389 02:41:05.879 --> 02:41:10.399 basically bought into this romantic notion of the Prussian people 2390 02:41:11.440 --> 02:41:16.600 at the time and and hit the Prussian people being 2391 02:41:16.760 --> 02:41:20.159 the cream of the crop as far as genetics goes, 2392 02:41:20.280 --> 02:41:24.200 and then that Hitler would they're putting words in Hitler's 2393 02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:28.440 mouth so that it would It makes it look like 2394 02:41:29.879 --> 02:41:34.319 Hitler doesn't really like the German people that much. I mean, 2395 02:41:34.399 --> 02:41:35.719 that's that's what it sounds like. 2396 02:41:36.159 --> 02:41:39.440 Yeah, I think that's part of it, and I mean 2397 02:41:39.479 --> 02:41:42.920 it's yeah, I think it's part of it. But it's 2398 02:41:42.959 --> 02:41:44.479 all the too. It's like some of these people are 2399 02:41:44.520 --> 02:41:46.920 just guys. You claim everything, like literally everything is fake, 2400 02:41:47.079 --> 02:41:48.639 Like I remember what it is they claim it's fak 2401 02:41:49.120 --> 02:41:53.120 Like is the guys who think that like like Joe 2402 02:41:53.200 --> 02:41:56.239 Biden is is like a hologram we never landed on 2403 02:41:56.319 --> 02:41:58.879 the moon, Like if you tell him, like you eat 2404 02:41:58.920 --> 02:42:01.360 corn flakes, but broke fls like none other people man, 2405 02:42:01.559 --> 02:42:04.040 Like you know you don't believe that, bro' you're like brainwashed, bro, 2406 02:42:04.600 --> 02:42:06.799 Like the second books are fake, like Hitler was fake. 2407 02:42:07.159 --> 02:42:09.559 Hitler was like this Jewish gig guy, Like he was fake, bro. 2408 02:42:10.360 --> 02:42:11.719 I mean, I think it's part of it's just like that, 2409 02:42:12.559 --> 02:42:15.639 but part of it. Yeah, Like people at the point 2410 02:42:15.680 --> 02:42:17.319 before that, a lot of these guys who claim to 2411 02:42:17.399 --> 02:42:20.559 be like national socialists or like or like or like 2412 02:42:20.639 --> 02:42:22.680 the like I just like to trol people by like 2413 02:42:23.959 --> 02:42:26.200 wearing a Swasa goa and they really know what it means. 2414 02:42:26.600 --> 02:42:28.639 They got this, like they got this like cartoon idea 2415 02:42:28.639 --> 02:42:32.040 of Hitler is basically what like the word apartment of 2416 02:42:32.239 --> 02:42:34.760 like nineteen forty one said he was. They just like 2417 02:42:34.840 --> 02:42:37.680 claim that's cool, not that that's bad. So I mean, yeah, 2418 02:42:37.680 --> 02:42:40.520 I think part of it is that these fools like 2419 02:42:40.600 --> 02:42:42.760 they want to pretend Hitler was like this Darth Vader 2420 02:42:42.879 --> 02:42:46.680 type figure like as a ledge and not actually like 2421 02:42:46.760 --> 02:42:49.399 a thoughtful person with like a critical view of his 2422 02:42:49.479 --> 02:42:52.360 own kind and stuff. But it you know, but it's 2423 02:42:52.399 --> 02:42:56.879 also but also you know Hitler, Hitler came from the 2424 02:42:56.959 --> 02:42:59.520 halfstory Empire, or like the frontier of it halfsfory Empire 2425 02:42:59.559 --> 02:43:02.399 was a fucking mess. I mean, it's fascinating. If I 2426 02:43:02.440 --> 02:43:04.200 had a time machine, like I said, I'd want to 2427 02:43:04.239 --> 02:43:06.719 go back, among other places, the Vienna in like nineteen 2428 02:43:06.799 --> 02:43:09.360 ten to check it out, because like that that kind 2429 02:43:09.360 --> 02:43:12.639 of decadent Baroque architecture is that's like really cool and 2430 02:43:12.760 --> 02:43:16.440 like there's like very cool things about it. But you know, 2431 02:43:16.520 --> 02:43:18.399 it's like something out of like a fairy tale or something. 2432 02:43:18.639 --> 02:43:21.319 But it's a total it was totally dysfunctional, you know, 2433 02:43:21.399 --> 02:43:23.000 like that can't you can't, I mean, and that was 2434 02:43:23.079 --> 02:43:25.280 really kind of the that was kind of the prime 2435 02:43:25.600 --> 02:43:29.079 the distilled essence of like decadent, like dysfunctional, like twentieth 2436 02:43:29.159 --> 02:43:31.920 century Europe. You know. So Hitler's like, this is what 2437 02:43:32.040 --> 02:43:34.760 our problem is, you know, and there's a reason why 2438 02:43:35.680 --> 02:43:38.520 he like refused to be drafted by the Habsburg Army 2439 02:43:38.559 --> 02:43:41.479 and went enjoined the German Army. That wasn't like an accident, 2440 02:43:42.000 --> 02:43:44.079 you know, like it wasn't because like, oh Hitler was 2441 02:43:44.120 --> 02:43:45.040 such a big racist. 2442 02:43:45.200 --> 02:43:46.000 It's like no, like. 2443 02:43:48.000 --> 02:43:50.200 Little one said that being a less Someone. 2444 02:43:50.120 --> 02:43:53.639 Claimed, can you answer this? Someone claimed that the only 2445 02:43:53.799 --> 02:43:56.920 reason you think the second book is authentic is because 2446 02:43:57.200 --> 02:44:01.280 you're taking the word of Gerhard Weinberg. And Gerhard Weinberg 2447 02:44:01.360 --> 02:44:03.719 also said David Hogan was full of shit? So is 2448 02:44:03.799 --> 02:44:04.559 that true too? 2449 02:44:05.920 --> 02:44:09.399 I mean, various people like saw the second book. He 2450 02:44:09.520 --> 02:44:12.159 talked to Hess about the second book, He discussed its 2451 02:44:12.280 --> 02:44:18.280 contents with Rim and traup with Gerbels. He Uh openly 2452 02:44:18.360 --> 02:44:21.239 discussed on the campaign trail in twenty eight I view 2453 02:44:21.280 --> 02:44:23.559 myself as a writer and I'm writing my second book, 2454 02:44:23.959 --> 02:44:28.079 Like what yeah, I mean, what what what what? What's 2455 02:44:28.079 --> 02:44:30.079 the evidence that it's a fake other than that, like 2456 02:44:30.239 --> 02:44:32.079 guys in the internet say it's fake. I mean, like 2457 02:44:32.079 --> 02:44:37.120 I don't like what I I don't think it's fake. 2458 02:44:37.239 --> 02:44:38.440 I have no reason to think that it is. 2459 02:44:39.799 --> 02:44:44.239 Like what it's it's romanticism. It's it's there. It destroys 2460 02:44:44.280 --> 02:44:46.879 some kind of romantic notion that they have. 2461 02:44:48.200 --> 02:44:52.360 Apparently, yeah, yeah, it's uh but yeah, it's I realized 2462 02:44:52.399 --> 02:44:57.159 we're coming up on uh the oh well, I'll write 2463 02:44:57.319 --> 02:45:03.040 up soon. But it's also to like the you know, 2464 02:45:03.120 --> 02:45:06.079 conspiculously absence. I make this point just because like court 2465 02:45:06.200 --> 02:45:11.280 history is so like demented on this point. You know, 2466 02:45:11.360 --> 02:45:12.760 you know, you want to One thing Hitler does not 2467 02:45:12.879 --> 02:45:15.200 mention at all in the second book is like black 2468 02:45:15.280 --> 02:45:18.200 people in America is like racial situation. He's just like 2469 02:45:18.280 --> 02:45:20.639 he has no interest in it. Like he did say 2470 02:45:20.920 --> 02:45:22.799 that the only time he ever spoke about like slavery 2471 02:45:22.840 --> 02:45:26.440 in America was he said, quote like transplanting transplanting of 2472 02:45:26.520 --> 02:45:29.239 millions of African Negroes the American continents as an example 2473 02:45:29.239 --> 02:45:32.479 of the quote barbarian custom. You know, because he said, 2474 02:45:32.520 --> 02:45:33.840 I mean, but that was like the view of like 2475 02:45:33.840 --> 02:45:39.000 a lot of people like just like you know, but 2476 02:45:39.120 --> 02:45:41.600 he didn't this idea like Hitler was sitting around like 2477 02:45:41.760 --> 02:45:43.840 like hating on black people. They are like obsessed with 2478 02:45:44.040 --> 02:45:46.799 like race like in that regard, like he that's totally 2479 02:45:47.000 --> 02:45:50.760 that's literally retarded, but it's you know, and if anything too, 2480 02:45:51.000 --> 02:45:54.319 like the the traditional understanding is that you know, like 2481 02:45:54.440 --> 02:45:57.399 the like the Germans like like sympathized with like the 2482 02:45:57.520 --> 02:46:00.879 North and kind of like the Union like national economic paradigm, 2483 02:46:01.319 --> 02:46:03.920 you know, Hamiltonian economics and and all of that. Like 2484 02:46:04.000 --> 02:46:06.040 the idea that they were like neo Confederates is like 2485 02:46:06.120 --> 02:46:14.159 literally demented. But you know, he and like most importantly, 2486 02:46:14.200 --> 02:46:18.520 I think too not like Hitler spoke in the table talk, 2487 02:46:18.760 --> 02:46:22.680 you'll you'll glean this as well as other places. According 2488 02:46:22.680 --> 02:46:25.559 to the second book, like Hitler talked about the American 2489 02:46:25.719 --> 02:46:28.600 dream like now he didn't use those words, but uh 2490 02:46:29.680 --> 02:46:33.079 he said, quote, the European of today dreams of a 2491 02:46:33.159 --> 02:46:36.120 living standard which might be possible in Europe but actually 2492 02:46:36.159 --> 02:46:41.399 exists in America. The American simply lives on average better 2493 02:46:41.440 --> 02:46:45.600 than we do, you know, And uh he made the point. 2494 02:46:45.639 --> 02:46:48.159 That's why he emphasized like motorizations so much and saying 2495 02:46:48.200 --> 02:46:50.479 like every German is gonna like have an automobile, like 2496 02:46:50.559 --> 02:46:53.760 a family car. Like Stalin famously said that like, oh 2497 02:46:53.840 --> 02:46:56.879 this these these this film of like American workers like driving, 2498 02:46:57.040 --> 02:46:59.840 is this is all propaganda? That's not possible, you know, 2499 02:47:00.000 --> 02:47:02.440 because like it seemed it seemed like science fiction to 2500 02:47:02.520 --> 02:47:05.280 people in the old world, you know. And Hitler is like, 2501 02:47:05.600 --> 02:47:08.079 you know, we gotta like basically like we've got to 2502 02:47:08.799 --> 02:47:11.239 where we're We're we're gonna have an autobond, Like we're 2503 02:47:11.239 --> 02:47:15.399 gonna we're gonna have, you know, a continent. We're gonna 2504 02:47:15.399 --> 02:47:17.760 we're we're gonna have our own manifest desity in the East. 2505 02:47:18.079 --> 02:47:20.399 You like we're gonna have a space program. Berlin is 2506 02:47:20.440 --> 02:47:22.559 gonna be, you know, like a capital of the world, 2507 02:47:23.040 --> 02:47:27.120 you know, like he his his competitor was America. You know, 2508 02:47:27.559 --> 02:47:31.879 it's but this and I mean granted, like it wasn't 2509 02:47:32.079 --> 02:47:36.920 un qualified, you know, like he uh he talked about 2510 02:47:36.920 --> 02:47:40.719 the parvenu culture in America that was uh and he 2511 02:47:40.879 --> 02:47:45.079 uh famously like he uh he mentioned one time like 2512 02:47:45.200 --> 02:47:49.840 some some like Robert Baron type had mocked up like 2513 02:47:49.920 --> 02:47:52.920 a faux palace at Versailles as like his house and 2514 02:47:53.239 --> 02:47:55.920 what I think, uh, like Life Magazine like exhibited it 2515 02:47:56.040 --> 02:47:58.280 like this was really cool. You know. Hitler's like, you know, 2516 02:47:58.360 --> 02:48:01.680 this is this is this is you know this this 2517 02:48:01.799 --> 02:48:05.280 is bullshit, you know, but uh, you know this idea 2518 02:48:05.360 --> 02:48:07.799 that and he said to like a lot of you 2519 02:48:07.840 --> 02:48:10.239 said in America had some great things that came out 2520 02:48:10.280 --> 02:48:12.719 of Hollywood and some great music, but also had some 2521 02:48:12.840 --> 02:48:15.040 like decadent bullshit you know what they called what he 2522 02:48:15.079 --> 02:48:17.360 called race music. I mean, that's just what people call 2523 02:48:17.440 --> 02:48:19.319 it then. But his idea that like you just say, 2524 02:48:19.360 --> 02:48:23.719 contempt for America was like it is totally asinine, you know, 2525 02:48:23.840 --> 02:48:29.000 and the uh you know, and it's and I mean 2526 02:48:29.000 --> 02:48:31.040 at the end of the day too, like I again, 2527 02:48:31.120 --> 02:48:39.079 like even the uh Germany's geostrategic exposed. Oh and interestingly 2528 02:48:39.159 --> 02:48:42.360 too like Hill, you know what I mean, Hitler said, uh, 2529 02:48:44.399 --> 02:48:49.280 it was Europe's literally impossible to defend in depth even 2530 02:48:49.319 --> 02:48:51.639 at the nineteen fourteen border and restored it wouldn't matter. 2531 02:48:52.639 --> 02:48:56.840 And you know, he said, we're Germany's quote surrounded completely 2532 02:48:56.920 --> 02:48:59.879 hemmed in. You know, he said more over in the 2533 02:49:00.079 --> 02:49:02.399 Age the Airplane, you know, he said, like any German 2534 02:49:02.440 --> 02:49:04.840 population center can be struck in a matter of hours, 2535 02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:08.000 you know what I mean. Like it's like again like 2536 02:49:08.079 --> 02:49:12.120 this idea that like like Americans just don't understand this. 2537 02:49:12.159 --> 02:49:16.200 It's like I realize that when people when this like 2538 02:49:16.319 --> 02:49:20.360 the Zionist war against Russia commenced in twenty twenty two, 2539 02:49:20.479 --> 02:49:22.600 like where it was the politics, like people act like 2540 02:49:23.559 --> 02:49:26.719 like allowing standoff weapons to be based like two hundred 2541 02:49:26.799 --> 02:49:30.399 miles from your capital like that, like that's not an 2542 02:49:30.440 --> 02:49:32.399 act of war or that's not like an existential threat 2543 02:49:32.399 --> 02:49:36.120 to your existence. You know. It's like I I don't 2544 02:49:36.159 --> 02:49:38.040 think people understand like that. I think people think that 2545 02:49:38.120 --> 02:49:39.959 like everyone else in this planet is like some version 2546 02:49:40.000 --> 02:49:43.120 of America. It's like the size of a continent, you know, 2547 02:49:43.239 --> 02:49:47.000 like any you know, any any any military enemies you 2548 02:49:47.120 --> 02:49:49.799 have or basically you know, like a thousand miles away 2549 02:49:49.879 --> 02:49:54.879 at minimum, Like I don't think they as the crow 2550 02:49:55.000 --> 02:49:59.600 flies in nineteen twenty eight, like the border of check 2551 02:49:59.680 --> 02:50:04.239 Us border of Czechoslovakia was now the Czech Republic Ti Berlin. 2552 02:50:06.360 --> 02:50:08.520 I mean, it's it's like it's less than two hours, 2553 02:50:08.600 --> 02:50:12.040 like by car if I'm not mistaken, you know, it's 2554 02:50:12.079 --> 02:50:15.680 like this this idea that like oh, you know, allowing 2555 02:50:15.840 --> 02:50:19.920 uh you know, allowing the French to base whatever aircraft 2556 02:50:20.000 --> 02:50:24.399 they can devise, you know, uh, an hour or so 2557 02:50:24.600 --> 02:50:26.639 from our capitol. Like, that's no problem. You know, we 2558 02:50:26.719 --> 02:50:28.760 we'd be warmongers if we objected to that. Like I 2559 02:50:29.840 --> 02:50:37.440 it's completely it's completely insane. But I uh, you know 2560 02:50:37.600 --> 02:50:42.760 that's uh. And that's also too like something I uh 2561 02:50:47.360 --> 02:50:51.559 And Sims makes this point too, one of the uh, 2562 02:50:55.239 --> 02:50:57.120 one of the one of the reasons for the at 2563 02:50:57.200 --> 02:50:59.639 least in the Hitler's case, one of them, like his 2564 02:51:00.000 --> 02:51:02.879 personal perspective, one of the reasons for the brutality in 2565 02:51:02.920 --> 02:51:08.200 the East, the aust frauds. Uh. Obviously, it's the ideological 2566 02:51:09.360 --> 02:51:12.760 challenge of communism which just had to be eradicated in 2567 02:51:12.840 --> 02:51:18.399 the estimation of the the national socialist culture. The fact 2568 02:51:18.440 --> 02:51:20.920 that you know, the Soviet Union declared like it it 2569 02:51:21.479 --> 02:51:25.159 didn't honor any you know, any any laws and convention 2570 02:51:25.239 --> 02:51:27.639 of the customs of war. It only abides its own 2571 02:51:27.639 --> 02:51:34.920 revolutionary imperatives. But also, you know, the the contiguous comminal 2572 02:51:35.040 --> 02:51:39.440 space Germany needed. I mean that it wasn't that Germany 2573 02:51:39.520 --> 02:51:44.280 hated like quote hated Slavs, but that the Nazis hated Slavs. Categorically, 2574 02:51:45.879 --> 02:51:48.479 and Hitler even said in the second book he said, 2575 02:51:48.479 --> 02:51:53.360 at a future time, if the Bolshevik yoke you know 2576 02:51:53.440 --> 02:51:55.479 what what he called, like you know, the like the 2577 02:51:56.479 --> 02:52:01.639 the you know of Russian national rather the Jewish capital orientation, 2578 02:52:01.760 --> 02:52:05.120 in Hitler's words, could come to pass in Russia, like 2579 02:52:05.200 --> 02:52:06.920 it wouldn't be off the table for some kind of 2580 02:52:06.959 --> 02:52:09.200 alliance with the Russians in the future. But that's not 2581 02:52:09.280 --> 02:52:12.479 where we're at now, and right now we're facing oblivion. 2582 02:52:12.959 --> 02:52:16.399 I mean, that was really the that that was really 2583 02:52:16.440 --> 02:52:18.959 the what underlay the kind of like Ras and Creek 2584 02:52:18.959 --> 02:52:20.760 in the East more than anything. It's not we hate 2585 02:52:20.840 --> 02:52:23.719 Slavs and let's annihilate them because we hate them. And 2586 02:52:23.799 --> 02:52:25.959 I was glad that Sims made that point. That's not 2587 02:52:26.000 --> 02:52:28.719 gonna be wrong. There were, especially among the ranks of 2588 02:52:28.760 --> 02:52:32.920 Baltic Germans, people like Rosenberg and Prussians who had been 2589 02:52:33.040 --> 02:52:35.399 like marinated in kind of the culture of Ras and 2590 02:52:35.479 --> 02:52:38.440 Kreeg I mean, because like they that's what their people 2591 02:52:38.639 --> 02:52:43.600 steeped in for centuries. They did hate Russians, and I'm 2592 02:52:43.600 --> 02:52:46.239 sure they viewed them as sub human, but it's generally 2593 02:52:46.440 --> 02:52:50.719 like that wasn't you know that that that that wasn't 2594 02:52:50.959 --> 02:52:53.399 like some there was some like grand racial theory of 2595 02:52:53.520 --> 02:52:56.079 like why the Slavs are some human or something. If 2596 02:52:56.120 --> 02:53:01.200 that's yeah, we're we're up on the hour. I think, uh, 2597 02:53:03.239 --> 02:53:08.280 I think, uh, I think is this said on the 2598 02:53:08.319 --> 02:53:10.479 subject or do you yeah, we can do I think 2599 02:53:10.520 --> 02:53:13.520 I think a concluding episode might be good, but because 2600 02:53:13.520 --> 02:53:15.040 I still have some more to say, but I don't wanna. 2601 02:53:15.079 --> 02:53:16.760 I don't want to sell you your business in terms 2602 02:53:16.799 --> 02:53:18.479 of no, no problem. 2603 02:53:18.959 --> 02:53:22.000 Yeah, I think wrapping this up one to wrap this 2604 02:53:22.120 --> 02:53:25.639 up would be great. Do some plugs and uh we'll 2605 02:53:25.760 --> 02:53:25.920 end it. 2606 02:53:27.319 --> 02:53:30.000 Yeah, man, Yeah, you can find me at Thomas seven 2607 02:53:30.120 --> 02:53:32.799 seven seven dot com is number seven h M A 2608 02:53:32.959 --> 02:53:37.360 S seven seven seven dot com. I'm on Instagram, I'm 2609 02:53:37.399 --> 02:53:41.280 on Twitter. I'm at Real Capital r e O Underscore 2610 02:53:41.840 --> 02:53:47.399 number seven h M A S seven seven seven. Yeah, 2611 02:53:47.479 --> 02:53:49.639 gum Road. I'm populating my gum Road of stuff in 2612 02:53:49.680 --> 02:53:53.159 the next couple of weeks. To keep an eye out 2613 02:53:53.239 --> 02:53:55.040 for that. I'll like shout that uh when there's like 2614 02:53:55.120 --> 02:53:57.719 more stuff on it. But uh, the main place to 2615 02:53:57.799 --> 02:54:00.440 find me in the and find my podcast is so stack. 2616 02:54:00.559 --> 02:54:03.360 It's real Thomas seven seven seven dot subseack dot com. 2617 02:54:04.399 --> 02:54:04.840 You know what I mean? 2618 02:54:04.959 --> 02:54:09.479 Like seeking you fine, appreciate it till the next time. 2619 02:54:09.639 --> 02:54:13.360 Thank you. I likewise, man, I want to welcome everyone 2620 02:54:13.479 --> 02:54:16.440 back to the Pekingiana Show at Thomas. How are you doing? 2621 02:54:17.000 --> 02:54:19.920 I've been doing well. I realized I kind of look 2622 02:54:19.959 --> 02:54:22.520 like a hobo, like I'm getting over a really severe 2623 02:54:22.639 --> 02:54:25.920 flare up. So I I'm not one hundred percent, So 2624 02:54:26.079 --> 02:54:28.760 that's what's going on. I didn't. I didn't just like 2625 02:54:28.879 --> 02:54:31.000 sleep in my clothes last night and then like drag 2626 02:54:31.079 --> 02:54:34.959 myself over to my computer, even if it looks that way, 2627 02:54:35.680 --> 02:54:37.159 So forgive me for that. 2628 02:54:38.440 --> 02:54:41.079 Well, yeah, if we, uh, since this is a wrap 2629 02:54:41.200 --> 02:54:42.879 up show, if it needs to be a little bit shorter, 2630 02:54:43.040 --> 02:54:47.040 that's fine, but I think it'll be okay. Why don't okay, 2631 02:54:48.079 --> 02:54:49.200 how do you want to finish up this? 2632 02:54:49.520 --> 02:54:55.719 Uh? I wanted to do a retrospective on Hitler's character 2633 02:54:55.799 --> 02:54:59.319 a bit because the main biography is of Hitler that 2634 02:54:59.360 --> 02:55:04.799 are accepted by court historians or Ian Kershaw, Alan Bulock, 2635 02:55:05.239 --> 02:55:09.319 Jakhaim Fest and John Toland, although Totland increasingly, I mean 2636 02:55:09.360 --> 02:55:13.079 he's he's been dead for many years, but increasingly he's 2637 02:55:13.159 --> 02:55:18.600 no longer considered part of the canon because he you know, 2638 02:55:21.159 --> 02:55:24.639 he people who want to finesse their ideological predators would 2639 02:55:24.639 --> 02:55:27.079 say like, oh, he humanizes Hitler or he minimizes the 2640 02:55:27.120 --> 02:55:33.840 severity of you know, the purported you know, fish is 2641 02:55:34.000 --> 02:55:38.520 evil in things. But if you're gonna deal with Hitler 2642 02:55:38.600 --> 02:55:41.319 in any meaningful capacity, you kind of have to wig. 2643 02:55:42.319 --> 02:55:44.319 You kind of have to wait, you have to you 2644 02:55:44.360 --> 02:55:51.360 have to rebut those allegations and and that kind that 2645 02:55:51.719 --> 02:55:55.520 those kinds of specious claims. But you know, if you're 2646 02:55:55.559 --> 02:55:58.559 dealing with any uh tyrant or any warlord or any 2647 02:55:59.559 --> 02:56:04.680 or any great leader, you've got to You've got to 2648 02:56:04.680 --> 02:56:09.559 both identify his analogs and you've also got to identify 2649 02:56:10.319 --> 02:56:16.399 what sort of psychological processes, particularly symbolic psychological processes, animated 2650 02:56:16.479 --> 02:56:23.000 him and his vision. Okay, and this is controversial even 2651 02:56:23.760 --> 02:56:27.440 for people, uh supposedly on the right, Like I read this. 2652 02:56:29.879 --> 02:56:32.440 I've been reading a lot of Hitler biographies lately owing 2653 02:56:32.520 --> 02:56:35.719 to my manuscripts, and I'm writing too many scripts. I'm 2654 02:56:35.760 --> 02:56:38.159 working on steel Storm, but I'm writing this Nuremberg book. 2655 02:56:38.200 --> 02:56:45.440 And I realized that character evidence of the equivalent isn't 2656 02:56:45.479 --> 02:56:49.239 just positive anything, and it's not even formally admissible, but 2657 02:56:50.120 --> 02:56:53.799 so much of the Nurmeric indictment kind of orbited around 2658 02:56:54.719 --> 02:56:57.159 what supposedly was in the mind of the fure as, 2659 02:56:57.280 --> 02:57:02.360 like the seminal command authority, that something has got to 2660 02:57:02.399 --> 02:57:04.680 be addressed. So you know, it's just kind of refleshing, 2661 02:57:05.559 --> 02:57:09.600 refreshing my recollection, you know, kind of on what on 2662 02:57:09.680 --> 02:57:15.360 what the primary claims are. And Russell Stolfi's book, which 2663 02:57:15.399 --> 02:57:18.120 is a splendid rebuttal that I was reading this really 2664 02:57:18.159 --> 02:57:21.440 good review by this guy who uh, I think periodically 2665 02:57:21.479 --> 02:57:25.120 writes for Countercurrence, and I got like halfway through it 2666 02:57:25.360 --> 02:57:27.360 and then he uh and then starts shrieking about how 2667 02:57:27.479 --> 02:57:31.399 awful it is that Stulfi claimed that Mohammed was an 2668 02:57:31.440 --> 02:57:33.920 analog the Hitler. I mean, apparently this guy has got 2669 02:57:34.000 --> 02:57:37.719 some like kosherized prejudice against Moslims or something, and that's 2670 02:57:37.799 --> 02:57:40.799 that's that's a completely fucking idiotic that like people still 2671 02:57:40.840 --> 02:57:43.719 think that way, or that they essentially just kind of 2672 02:57:43.719 --> 02:57:47.159 apply those same conceptual biases just you know, kind of 2673 02:57:47.200 --> 02:57:51.360 with reverse colors. The historical analysis. I mean, plus like 2674 02:57:51.440 --> 02:57:53.680 Muhammad was a great man, you know, like they can't 2675 02:57:55.239 --> 02:57:59.920 he wasn't uh, he wasn't what is Uh believers think 2676 02:58:00.079 --> 02:58:03.079 that he was. But and it's not some slam and 2677 02:58:03.159 --> 02:58:05.559 Moslims either, you know, they worship the same God I do. 2678 02:58:05.879 --> 02:58:10.319 However incomplete their interpretation is But saying like Muhammad wasn't 2679 02:58:10.440 --> 02:58:11.799 one of the greatest mane of relave, it was like 2680 02:58:11.840 --> 02:58:15.440 saying Julius Caesar was a second Raiders is idiotic. But 2681 02:58:17.440 --> 02:58:23.440 moving on from the kind of tangential complaint, I believe 2682 02:58:24.319 --> 02:58:30.239 and even if I didn't what historians claim, which makes sense, 2683 02:58:30.360 --> 02:58:32.239 even if they weren't dealing with a figure, it's kinda 2684 02:58:32.520 --> 02:58:37.959 monumental and controversial as Hitler, you know, like the man 2685 02:58:38.079 --> 02:58:43.520 Hitler became was kind of that kind of character trajectory 2686 02:58:43.600 --> 02:58:46.520 was set when he was about eighteen years old, which 2687 02:58:46.600 --> 02:58:49.000 is generally the case, especially for males. I think, like 2688 02:58:49.040 --> 02:58:52.959 when I kind of develop the sort of visionary ambitions. 2689 02:58:53.280 --> 02:58:55.120 But you know, that was right when Hitler his mother died. 2690 02:58:56.120 --> 02:59:00.239 And that's also when he you know, suffered as first 2691 02:59:00.360 --> 02:59:06.840 major disappointment when he applied to the Vienna School of 2692 02:59:06.920 --> 02:59:10.120 Fine Arts, at which Hitler was not rejected for being 2693 02:59:10.120 --> 02:59:11.959 a quote terrible artist. He was told that he was 2694 02:59:12.000 --> 02:59:15.840 a great architect, but that you know, he obviously for 2695 02:59:15.920 --> 02:59:18.639 his skill set lay so that you know, he was 2696 02:59:18.799 --> 02:59:21.319 he was accepted into the architecture program and told that, 2697 02:59:21.440 --> 02:59:26.959 you know, fine arts were not really his forte and a. Uh. 2698 02:59:27.200 --> 02:59:31.559 Not having attended a real school and not having the 2699 02:59:31.639 --> 02:59:38.399 credentials to pursue that alternate track, you know, that basically 2700 02:59:38.479 --> 02:59:44.840 cut off it career trajectory unless he's able to find 2701 02:59:44.879 --> 02:59:47.399 somebody to kind of act as a patron and in 2702 02:59:47.479 --> 02:59:53.239 a strange city, that wasn't very likely. But the one 2703 02:59:53.280 --> 02:59:55.600 of the things that's claimed about Hitler is that, oh, well, 2704 02:59:56.680 --> 02:59:59.760 you know, Hitler had this had this unhealthy relationship with 2705 02:59:59.799 --> 03:00:02.440 his and then I mean this kind of things like 2706 03:00:02.479 --> 03:00:05.719 steeped in like Freudian nonsense. Obviously, these kinds of claims, 2707 03:00:06.319 --> 03:00:10.520 but that also that doctor Block, who was an oncologist 2708 03:00:10.559 --> 03:00:13.719 who treated Hitler's mom, that oh, Hitler obviously came to 2709 03:00:13.799 --> 03:00:16.000 hate Jews because Block was a Jew and just blamed 2710 03:00:16.079 --> 03:00:18.040 him for the death of his mother. That's not at 2711 03:00:18.040 --> 03:00:20.680 all true, and Hitler actually thought really highly of doctor Block. 2712 03:00:24.319 --> 03:00:26.879 In a rebuttal to that kind of off repeated claim, 2713 03:00:28.319 --> 03:00:33.159 Block said the Colliers magazine during the war, he said, 2714 03:00:33.559 --> 03:00:36.000 I'm probably like the most privileged jew like you'll find 2715 03:00:36.040 --> 03:00:38.079 in Germany row after you today. I don't believe that's 2716 03:00:38.079 --> 03:00:42.239 an accident. And when Hitler told me that he owed 2717 03:00:42.280 --> 03:00:45.360 me a great debt of honor for caring for his mother, 2718 03:00:45.440 --> 03:00:49.559 apparently he was sincere. Okay, that's straight from the horse's mouth. 2719 03:00:50.719 --> 03:00:57.000 But I do believe Hitler's upbringing was very strange. You know, 2720 03:00:57.079 --> 03:01:00.879 Hitler's father, Elwis, he kind of because amplified what was 2721 03:01:00.959 --> 03:01:05.040 wrong with the Hasbury Empire. And something Toland says, which 2722 03:01:05.040 --> 03:01:09.360 I think is not off base, is that, you know, 2723 03:01:09.479 --> 03:01:11.959 Hitler Elois was a tyrant. He was just kind of 2724 03:01:12.000 --> 03:01:15.840 a mean guy. He beat his family, especially Hitler's older brother, 2725 03:01:16.239 --> 03:01:20.239 Elowis Junior. Elowis Junior was Hitler's ad brother, and uh, 2726 03:01:20.479 --> 03:01:25.159 his father terrorized him. And you know, Elowis ran away 2727 03:01:25.200 --> 03:01:27.440 from home at fourteen and never came home, which speaks 2728 03:01:27.440 --> 03:01:33.079 for himself. But you know, uh, after Alowis ran away, 2729 03:01:34.159 --> 03:01:36.120 Hitler was kind of the brunt of his of his 2730 03:01:36.319 --> 03:01:40.840 dad's you know, kind of bullying, and his dad was 2731 03:01:40.879 --> 03:01:43.920 a Hitler wasn't poor, despite what some people claim either 2732 03:01:44.120 --> 03:01:48.920 like the family was solidly middle class. Hitler's father was. 2733 03:01:49.239 --> 03:01:53.879 He joined the border guards or the Customs Service with 2734 03:01:54.000 --> 03:01:58.760 the frontier guards. Like basically like uh think like kind 2735 03:01:58.760 --> 03:02:03.000 of homeland security meets some immigrations and customs enforcement. So 2736 03:02:03.079 --> 03:02:07.840 he's basically a cop. You know. He joined this, he 2737 03:02:07.959 --> 03:02:11.360 joined up at eighteen, retired at fifty eight. You know, 2738 03:02:11.520 --> 03:02:13.360 so he had this like solid pension and he was 2739 03:02:13.440 --> 03:02:14.959 you know, uh, he had a lot of he had 2740 03:02:14.959 --> 03:02:21.559 a lot of clout like within that institution, and you know, 2741 03:02:22.280 --> 03:02:25.079 like Hitler reviewed him as this kind of like is 2742 03:02:25.120 --> 03:02:28.000 this kind of like crud ignoramus who had sort of 2743 03:02:28.079 --> 03:02:31.520 like a reverence for authority for its own sake, you know. 2744 03:02:33.440 --> 03:02:35.159 In those days, we'll get into this. He was actually 2745 03:02:35.239 --> 03:02:39.280 illegal to sing the German national anthem. It was illegal 2746 03:02:39.319 --> 03:02:43.719 to display images of Bismarck and other like patriotic iconography. 2747 03:02:44.799 --> 03:02:48.000 You know. The we talk we talked about the nationalities 2748 03:02:48.079 --> 03:02:51.360 problem in in the Soviet Union, like the Habsburg Empire 2749 03:02:51.479 --> 03:02:55.559 had the worst nationalities problem like ever seen. Okay, so 2750 03:02:56.360 --> 03:03:00.280 there was this kind of like authoritarian bureaucracy that was 2751 03:03:00.319 --> 03:03:04.920 aiming at suppressing like everybody's you know, kind of nationalist 2752 03:03:05.120 --> 03:03:08.559 or or self consciously like ethnic feeling. Ye know, so 2753 03:03:08.879 --> 03:03:14.280 Hitler's mind, I'm very early on. Hitler was self consciously German, 2754 03:03:15.280 --> 03:03:16.959 which makes a lot of sense. You know, this kid 2755 03:03:17.000 --> 03:03:19.440 who was who lived on the frontier of the Habsburg Empire, 2756 03:03:20.120 --> 03:03:23.760 you know, basically, you know, as a minority, you're on 2757 03:03:23.879 --> 03:03:26.200 a you know, around a bunch of other minorities. But 2758 03:03:28.159 --> 03:03:31.079 I don't think it's off base to suggests that one 2759 03:03:31.079 --> 03:03:33.200 of the reasons Hitler came to hate the Habsburg regime, 2760 03:03:33.559 --> 03:03:36.360 like not the emperor himself, like a or anything like that, 2761 03:03:36.600 --> 03:03:39.000 but just like, you know, the regime that propped it up. 2762 03:03:39.200 --> 03:03:41.159 He identified dad with his dad, who really was just 2763 03:03:41.239 --> 03:03:46.079 like a bully, you know. And Hitler's dad died, you know, 2764 03:03:46.159 --> 03:03:48.120 when Hitler was thirteen years old. He just had like 2765 03:03:48.120 --> 03:03:51.719 a massive heart attack. You know. On the one hand, uh, 2766 03:03:52.600 --> 03:03:54.639 On the one hand, that kind of freed the family 2767 03:03:54.799 --> 03:04:01.280 from his from his British tyranny. But you know, he 2768 03:04:01.719 --> 03:04:04.440 the family got a pretty They didn't fall into punery 2769 03:04:04.559 --> 03:04:07.399 or anything, because they had like a decent pension. But 2770 03:04:08.799 --> 03:04:12.879 Hitler's older brother had run away years before Hitler's Uh, 2771 03:04:14.079 --> 03:04:18.680 four younger siblings of Hitler's had died. You know. Hitler's mom, 2772 03:04:18.760 --> 03:04:21.479 even before she got cancer, was kind of unwell you know, 2773 03:04:21.559 --> 03:04:23.479 Hitler was like the man of the house at thirteen 2774 03:04:23.559 --> 03:04:26.920 years old. You know, it's not that there was not 2775 03:04:27.000 --> 03:04:33.159 an easy thing, you know. So this idea too that 2776 03:04:33.280 --> 03:04:34.920 Hitler was just this kind of like a lay about 2777 03:04:35.239 --> 03:04:39.280 like idiot or something who you know just uh, you know, 2778 03:04:39.319 --> 03:04:41.479 had an act to grind with his deity and and 2779 03:04:41.639 --> 03:04:43.799 wasn't doing anything and in his in this kind of 2780 03:04:43.840 --> 03:04:47.520 care free ado lessons as regards you know, real responsibility. 2781 03:04:47.639 --> 03:04:55.040 Like that's that's nonsense too, But uh, what's fair thing 2782 03:04:55.079 --> 03:04:59.680 to me is that some of these formative uh things 2783 03:04:59.879 --> 03:05:06.959 like not just fascinations but conceptual but by like conceptual fixations, 2784 03:05:08.000 --> 03:05:12.079 like he emerged like around this time, like before after 2785 03:05:12.200 --> 03:05:15.399 Allows senior ed retired, Like he tried he bought this 2786 03:05:15.520 --> 03:05:18.280 like gentleman's farm. You know, he's try and kind of 2787 03:05:18.319 --> 03:05:21.719 live this kind of country squire life or something. And 2788 03:05:21.879 --> 03:05:24.639 like the farm failed because you know, Elwis didn't know 2789 03:05:24.639 --> 03:05:27.239 what he was doing and he actually was Alwis actually 2790 03:05:27.280 --> 03:05:29.079 was kind of drunkly about, you know, like when he 2791 03:05:29.200 --> 03:05:34.000 wasn't you know, doing his border guard you know, policeman thing. 2792 03:05:34.319 --> 03:05:42.559 But uh, the after uh, after that, the family moved 2793 03:05:44.280 --> 03:05:48.360 to uh this apartment house goes right across from this 2794 03:05:48.440 --> 03:05:54.680 Benedictine monastery and the school year of eighteen ninety seven 2795 03:05:54.719 --> 03:06:01.200 eighteen ninety eight, Hitler, Uh, the path he walked to 2796 03:06:01.280 --> 03:06:08.559 school of went, it went, it went through this gate 2797 03:06:10.520 --> 03:06:17.840 abudding the Benedictine premises, specifically the monastery, and there's a 2798 03:06:17.959 --> 03:06:20.520 stone arch in the center of it, and like very 2799 03:06:20.559 --> 03:06:23.280 prominently was carved uh in the monastery's coat of arms, 2800 03:06:23.319 --> 03:06:27.239 like a swastika, which I I don't think that's accidental 2801 03:06:27.559 --> 03:06:30.319 that you know that, Uh that and that's why I 2802 03:06:30.399 --> 03:06:32.319 raised the people who say, like, no, Hitler was signaling 2803 03:06:32.360 --> 03:06:34.760 with these people in the tool society that you know, 2804 03:06:34.879 --> 03:06:38.079 he he was some of a culted pagan Like no, no, no, 2805 03:06:38.440 --> 03:06:45.559 that's not the case. And swats guys were ubiquitous and 2806 03:06:46.040 --> 03:06:53.040 in in medieval and Gothic freezes and things, and uh, 2807 03:06:53.360 --> 03:06:55.760 the kind of Gothic, the kind of mini Gothic revival 2808 03:06:56.600 --> 03:07:00.280 you know that was emergent, you know, really for a 2809 03:07:00.319 --> 03:07:03.719 few decades, you know, from about like the eighteen seventies 2810 03:07:03.799 --> 03:07:05.120 or eighties. I'm not I'm not at all like an 2811 03:07:05.200 --> 03:07:09.000 architectural historian or anything, but you know, approximately around the 2812 03:07:09.040 --> 03:07:10.920 time when you know, like Hitler was coming up, that 2813 03:07:11.239 --> 03:07:13.680 that kind of thing was still prominent, particularly and in 2814 03:07:13.799 --> 03:07:16.600 some of the kind of suburbs and exurbs of Central 2815 03:07:16.680 --> 03:07:21.719 Europe from these you know, from these baroque cities of course, 2816 03:07:21.799 --> 03:07:33.520 like Vienna. But it's and interestingly Helene Hofstangle, who is 2817 03:07:33.600 --> 03:07:39.159 Putsy Hofstangle's wife, I mean obviously in Hofstangle. Hofstangle was 2818 03:07:39.239 --> 03:07:41.559 kind of a buffoon, and he became very much, uh, 2819 03:07:42.040 --> 03:07:45.159 on the outs with Hitler, and even even when he 2820 03:07:45.360 --> 03:07:48.360 was even when he was in the good graces of 2821 03:07:49.879 --> 03:07:57.120 the kind of core of the UH of the at 2822 03:07:57.159 --> 03:08:00.200 the National Socialist Party, he never really got any respect act. 2823 03:08:00.319 --> 03:08:04.520 But his wife kind of before mag the Gebels, became 2824 03:08:06.000 --> 03:08:09.280 Hitler's a like confidant and arguably kind of like the 2825 03:08:09.360 --> 03:08:12.959 fact the first lady the third Reich, like, uh, Helene 2826 03:08:13.000 --> 03:08:17.639 Hofsnangle kind of filled that role and Hitler told her that, 2827 03:08:18.000 --> 03:08:21.479 you know, during this time he he considered becoming a priest, 2828 03:08:22.399 --> 03:08:24.120 you know, because he's like, this is this is like 2829 03:08:24.159 --> 03:08:27.399 a higher calling for you know, that's that's not it's 2830 03:08:27.479 --> 03:08:29.959 not sullied by you know, these guys like worldly things 2831 03:08:30.040 --> 03:08:32.760 that you know, I don't want any part of and 2832 03:08:33.120 --> 03:08:35.040 you can you know, you can surround yourself with art, 2833 03:08:35.239 --> 03:08:37.200 you know, but do it in a way that you 2834 03:08:37.280 --> 03:08:41.600 know is you know, people can index with you know, 2835 03:08:41.840 --> 03:08:44.159 is in their in their worship and things like. It's 2836 03:08:44.239 --> 03:08:48.520 very interesting because that's the only kind of despite a 2837 03:08:48.600 --> 03:08:50.639 lot of fake quotes and a lot of speculation, like 2838 03:08:50.719 --> 03:08:54.079 Hitler never said bad things about Catholicism, like he just didn't. 2839 03:08:54.120 --> 03:08:55.799 But you know, you never said anything particularly praising of 2840 03:08:55.879 --> 03:08:56.200 it either. 2841 03:08:58.079 --> 03:09:01.520 Let me ask the question during the Straster debates, does 2842 03:09:01.600 --> 03:09:03.799 he refer to himself as an atheist? No? 2843 03:09:06.840 --> 03:09:13.959 No, and that's why most uh, notably in the December 2844 03:09:14.000 --> 03:09:20.120 eleventh speech, he mentioned providence or God over half a 2845 03:09:20.159 --> 03:09:24.239 dozen times. And I mean it's a constant, it's it's 2846 03:09:24.239 --> 03:09:33.159 a constant uh motif. You know. But that's well, that 2847 03:09:33.280 --> 03:09:37.680 that's a that's a discussion for another time because there's 2848 03:09:37.680 --> 03:09:40.920 a lot there. But no, he that's that that's absolutely 2849 03:09:41.079 --> 03:09:43.959 as nine. What people do is they take they take 2850 03:09:44.040 --> 03:09:46.479 quotes from like they take they take either like like 2851 03:09:46.559 --> 03:09:50.120 totally confabulated quotes from girls or something they're just like 2852 03:09:50.239 --> 03:09:52.760 made up, or they take actual quotes on some buffoon 2853 03:09:52.920 --> 03:09:55.520 like Borman, like you know, mouthing off on a much 2854 03:09:55.559 --> 03:09:57.360 he hates the Catholics and saying like see you like 2855 03:09:57.760 --> 03:09:59.879 you know, the nuts he's received or something. Jews wanted 2856 03:09:59.879 --> 03:10:02.360 to burn all the churches, you know, like Bormann said 2857 03:10:02.399 --> 03:10:03.840 so when he was like three Sheets of the Wind 2858 03:10:03.879 --> 03:10:12.200 and talking Ship, you know, like but the you know it, uh, 2859 03:10:16.079 --> 03:10:28.680 the there was something uh you know, even in even 2860 03:10:28.680 --> 03:10:30.040 in a play, it's kind of like a culture. It 2861 03:10:30.159 --> 03:10:32.520 is like halfs thro of Austria. You know, I don't 2862 03:10:32.520 --> 03:10:34.600 mean like culture necessarily in co of pollen in terms 2863 03:10:34.600 --> 03:10:36.639 that was that too, but you know there was there 2864 03:10:36.719 --> 03:10:38.440 was this kind of like deep reverence for the arts 2865 03:10:38.479 --> 03:10:41.639 and things, you know, like just saying when when Hitler 2866 03:10:41.760 --> 03:10:44.399 was asked other than this kind of brief deliance with 2867 03:10:44.479 --> 03:10:46.959 the with the idea of becoming a priest. You know, 2868 03:10:47.120 --> 03:10:49.440 Hitler when he was when he was asked what he 2869 03:10:49.520 --> 03:10:51.319 was gonna be, like what his career was gonna be, 2870 03:10:51.319 --> 03:10:53.079 he'd always say like, I'm gonna be a great artist. 2871 03:10:53.479 --> 03:10:54.760 And the adults would be like, well, you know, you 2872 03:10:54.840 --> 03:10:56.559 have to have a proper profession, you know, like it 2873 03:10:56.719 --> 03:10:59.879 uh you know, So it's not it's not as if 2874 03:10:59.920 --> 03:11:02.639 these these were like flights of fancy that you know, 2875 03:11:02.680 --> 03:11:05.760 were encouraged by some like doting mother who's out of it, 2876 03:11:05.920 --> 03:11:12.719 you know, like like not even remotely, but the and 2877 03:11:12.799 --> 03:11:15.600 it was around Uh it's an this time too, Hitler 2878 03:11:15.639 --> 03:11:25.079 realized he could draw he uh from the time you 2879 03:11:25.120 --> 03:11:27.239 know he's about uh but in our system, like fifth 2880 03:11:27.360 --> 03:11:29.120 or sixth grade age, you know, like eleven or twelve 2881 03:11:29.200 --> 03:11:38.680 years old, he'd start uh surreptitiously sketching one of his 2882 03:11:38.799 --> 03:11:46.360 school chums named Weinberger. Weinberger, you know, he wrolate that. 2883 03:11:46.600 --> 03:11:50.200 Uh he watched over several days as Hitler, like you know, 2884 03:11:51.079 --> 03:11:53.879 in class when they were listening to some lesson or another. 2885 03:11:55.159 --> 03:11:58.239 Hitler Uh he recreated from memory the castle at Schomberg 2886 03:11:58.360 --> 03:12:03.559 and just like sketched it out, you know. And he 2887 03:12:04.239 --> 03:12:06.719 early on in life, like other kids looked at him 2888 03:12:06.719 --> 03:12:10.879 as a leader. You know. What's fascinating to me too, 2889 03:12:11.079 --> 03:12:19.120 was that his favorite stuff to read was ah stories 2890 03:12:19.159 --> 03:12:23.079 by James Fenimore Cooper and kind of his German his 2891 03:12:23.200 --> 03:12:27.440 German imitator or kind of counterpart was Carl May who 2892 03:12:27.639 --> 03:12:31.239 also wrote Western stories. But uh, you know the kind 2893 03:12:31.239 --> 03:12:34.959 of the cowboys and Indians, you know, uh kind of 2894 03:12:35.079 --> 03:12:38.959 genre like came from James Fenimore Cooper. You know, like 2895 03:12:39.159 --> 03:12:41.520 Hitler's Hiller is a kid actually taught himself to throw 2896 03:12:41.520 --> 03:12:46.840 a lasso, which I think is hilarious. But he'd uh 2897 03:12:49.440 --> 03:12:54.920 his uh like those who remembered him. You know, this 2898 03:12:55.079 --> 03:12:58.920 was multiple people said that hilarys wanted to play cowboys 2899 03:12:58.920 --> 03:13:03.760 and Indians, you know, and uh, you know, he talked 2900 03:13:03.760 --> 03:13:06.360 about America as this kind of like wild place but 2901 03:13:06.440 --> 03:13:10.040 also this kind of like marvelous place almost like the 2902 03:13:10.120 --> 03:13:12.959 land of odds of like you know, infinite power, infinite wealth, 2903 03:13:13.079 --> 03:13:16.280 but also like wild people and you know, like warriors 2904 03:13:16.360 --> 03:13:20.280 and like, you know, it's it's I I find that 2905 03:13:20.440 --> 03:13:22.719 I find that fascinating. You know. It's like it's like 2906 03:13:22.719 --> 03:13:24.639 a little Austrian kid, like that's what he's that's what 2907 03:13:24.680 --> 03:13:30.920 he's getting into. But according to Hilary said and and 2908 03:13:31.000 --> 03:13:35.879 then then the tracks by what his sister Paula told 2909 03:13:35.959 --> 03:13:42.399 him Toland as well as other uh as well as 2910 03:13:42.440 --> 03:13:45.760 other witness testimony, which I have no reason I think 2911 03:13:45.840 --> 03:13:52.920 is incredible. Hitler, Uh, he became fixed. He became fixated 2912 03:13:52.959 --> 03:13:57.280 on these two like historical magazines that were dedicated to 2913 03:13:57.360 --> 03:14:01.360 Franco Prussian War, which obviously was like loomed hugely in 2914 03:14:01.440 --> 03:14:04.719 the minds of of Germans, you know, I mean that 2915 03:14:04.879 --> 03:14:06.399 was uh, I mean that that was that was that 2916 03:14:06.520 --> 03:14:10.760 was the great victory, you know, like there and the 2917 03:14:10.920 --> 03:14:15.600 kind of uh the kind of finest hour of Prussian arms. 2918 03:14:16.600 --> 03:14:19.000 But it's also you know, Europe in the nineteenth century 2919 03:14:19.159 --> 03:14:21.799 like didn't go to war really, you know what I mean. 2920 03:14:21.840 --> 03:14:23.840 There was the Franko Prussian Wars is the Primean war, 2921 03:14:24.280 --> 03:14:27.360 you know, but after Waterloo, like there wasn't there wasn't 2922 03:14:27.440 --> 03:14:31.840 any There weren't like major engagements you know that that 2923 03:14:32.000 --> 03:14:35.239 that involved you know, half a dozen countries and millions 2924 03:14:35.280 --> 03:14:38.440 of men, you know. That's why that's why so many 2925 03:14:39.200 --> 03:14:42.280 European mercenaries ended up, you know, fighting in the war 2926 03:14:42.319 --> 03:14:44.760 within the States, because that's where the action was, you 2927 03:14:44.840 --> 03:14:56.239 know it. And Hitler uh he became He stated in 2928 03:14:56.360 --> 03:15:02.639 his own testimony that uh, the Board War was uh 2929 03:15:03.840 --> 03:15:06.280 you know what really imbued him with like self conscious 2930 03:15:06.319 --> 03:15:10.680 patriotism as well as uh, you know, as well as 2931 03:15:10.719 --> 03:15:14.399 his understanding that like you're in German, you know, which 2932 03:15:14.440 --> 03:15:17.920 is fascinating and that I like we talked about in 2933 03:15:17.959 --> 03:15:21.200 our World War One series the degree to which the 2934 03:15:21.319 --> 03:15:25.479 Germans felt a deeply deep affinity for the boards, like 2935 03:15:25.520 --> 03:15:30.559 they can't be like overstated, you know that. 2936 03:15:30.840 --> 03:15:30.959 Uh. 2937 03:15:32.920 --> 03:15:36.479 And it was also his he was about this age 2938 03:15:36.559 --> 03:15:41.920 too when uh, his his younger brother Edmund died of measles. 2939 03:15:42.520 --> 03:15:44.520 And that was the fourth death of one of the 2940 03:15:44.639 --> 03:15:51.200 Hitler children. So Hitler was Hitler was the only remaining son. Okay, 2941 03:15:51.840 --> 03:15:54.159 el Eis was you know, he was Hitler's have brother, 2942 03:15:54.399 --> 03:15:56.920 but he was like long gone anyway. His family didn't 2943 03:15:56.920 --> 03:16:01.639 even know if he was better alive, you know. The Uh, 2944 03:16:04.280 --> 03:16:08.680 this is when this is when hilar was kind of 2945 03:16:08.719 --> 03:16:10.520 forced to grow up in my opinion, you know. And 2946 03:16:10.600 --> 03:16:18.319 then shortly shortly thereafter, you know, Lewis Senior died, but 2947 03:16:19.280 --> 03:16:27.040 before he did, just a couple of years previously, Hitler 2948 03:16:27.079 --> 03:16:28.879 reached the age where's eligible to attend the other at 2949 03:16:28.920 --> 03:16:33.639 gymnasium or a real school, and his practical minded father 2950 03:16:33.920 --> 03:16:37.639 was you know, I thought of gymnasium was a waste 2951 03:16:37.680 --> 03:16:39.879 of time, you know. And for those who don't know, 2952 03:16:40.000 --> 03:16:42.120 like in those days, I've knowed the European systems like now, 2953 03:16:42.319 --> 03:16:45.879 but in those days, you know, gymnasium would prepare people 2954 03:16:45.959 --> 03:16:49.280 for you know, classical education and what was then the 2955 03:16:49.360 --> 03:16:52.600 university curriculum. You know, a real school was it was 2956 03:16:52.680 --> 03:16:59.639 like you know, a technical and scientific academy, okay, and 2957 03:16:59.799 --> 03:17:05.040 the uh the nearest real school was located in the Winds. 2958 03:17:08.319 --> 03:17:14.600 So Hitler uh set off for Winds, you know when 2959 03:17:14.639 --> 03:17:17.719 he was uh when when he was like a little kid, 2960 03:17:18.799 --> 03:17:23.479 you know, he'd uh pack a rucksack on his back. 2961 03:17:25.920 --> 03:17:30.680 He quite literally walked for three hours, you know, and 2962 03:17:30.799 --> 03:17:34.319 sometimes he'd stay overnight or through the weekend. You know. 2963 03:17:34.479 --> 03:17:42.319 But this is that kind of the degree of autonomy 2964 03:17:42.399 --> 03:17:45.319 and kind of worldliness and like understanding of like mortal 2965 03:17:45.399 --> 03:17:49.520 things that's not gonna think about like kids in the 2966 03:17:49.559 --> 03:17:56.079 West these days, you know, I mean, I you know, 2967 03:17:56.239 --> 03:18:02.879 and uh what the testimony the Tolands aeos the other 2968 03:18:02.920 --> 03:18:07.000 people was Hitler. This is basically when Hitler like abandoned 2969 03:18:07.079 --> 03:18:10.360 like all interest in schoolwork, like viewing it essentially as bullshit, 2970 03:18:11.399 --> 03:18:16.399 you know. And Hitler said, quote, I thought that once 2971 03:18:16.479 --> 03:18:18.479 my father saw a little progress I was making at 2972 03:18:18.479 --> 03:18:20.360 the real school, he would on me to devote myself 2973 03:18:20.399 --> 03:18:25.559 to my dream, whether he liked it or not. However, 2974 03:18:25.680 --> 03:18:29.719 Hitler did perform on a you know, to pass. He 2975 03:18:29.799 --> 03:18:35.079 also Keplinger. It was one of Hitler's friends who provided 2976 03:18:35.120 --> 03:18:42.399 testimony to Toland said Hitler. And I find this significant 2977 03:18:42.440 --> 03:18:45.639 because other intimates of Hitler like vote from his childhood, 2978 03:18:45.920 --> 03:18:47.479 his life as a young man, as well as his 2979 03:18:47.559 --> 03:18:51.040 like later adulthood. Keplinger said, quote, he had guts. He 2980 03:18:51.200 --> 03:18:55.319 wasn't the hot head, but he really was more menable 2981 03:18:55.360 --> 03:18:57.840 than a good many. He exhibited two extremes of character 2982 03:18:57.920 --> 03:18:59.799 which are not often seen in unison. He was a 2983 03:19:00.040 --> 03:19:04.360 quiet fanatic. You know, Hitler wasn't like this carpet chewing mediac. 2984 03:19:04.479 --> 03:19:06.239 He wasn't this guy who was like yelling all the time. 2985 03:19:06.479 --> 03:19:09.120 It wasn't this guy came off like a tweaker. You know, 2986 03:19:09.239 --> 03:19:12.840 there's like this quiet, quiet intensity, Like dude almost never 2987 03:19:12.920 --> 03:19:17.000 raised his voice, he almost never lost his temper. But 2988 03:19:17.520 --> 03:19:20.280 he was obviously a fanatic, you know, Like that's the 2989 03:19:20.399 --> 03:19:25.120 key to that's the key to Hitler. You know, people 2990 03:19:25.159 --> 03:19:28.479 don't understand that, don't really understand like how we index 2991 03:19:28.600 --> 03:19:31.000 with people the way he did, And they don't really 2992 03:19:31.559 --> 03:19:35.079 they don't really understand his like kind of like what 2993 03:19:35.239 --> 03:19:37.360 what what appealed to him in the people about him 2994 03:19:37.399 --> 03:19:40.000 in personal terms as well as in kind of you know, 2995 03:19:40.079 --> 03:19:47.000 idealized terms. But you know, Keplinger also made the point 2996 03:19:47.479 --> 03:19:51.920 he said, you know, he said the board war, he 2997 03:19:52.040 --> 03:19:55.280 said it kind of he said it like invigorated us, 2998 03:19:55.399 --> 03:19:58.399 you know, not just the kids would be adults. You know, 2999 03:19:58.520 --> 03:20:01.680 this sense of historical mission and like a desire for 3000 03:20:01.799 --> 03:20:05.040 like our own state, you know, German state. You know, 3001 03:20:05.120 --> 03:20:07.760 he said Bismarck was our hero. You know, he's like, 3002 03:20:08.639 --> 03:20:10.879 you know, we sing Bismarck songs, you know when when 3003 03:20:11.520 --> 03:20:13.959 authority figures were out out of your shot. You know, 3004 03:20:14.040 --> 03:20:17.799 he's like he's like, we'd secretly, like you know, in private, 3005 03:20:17.840 --> 03:20:20.079 like salute each other and things, you know. With Hyle, 3006 03:20:20.760 --> 03:20:23.479 you know, like it's like a lot of this, a 3007 03:20:23.520 --> 03:20:25.840 lot of stuff that became kind of the the key 3008 03:20:26.000 --> 03:20:29.719 lore of the Nazi party, like literally developing like Hitler's 3009 03:20:29.719 --> 03:20:33.559 little kid on the frontier with other Habsburg Germans and 3010 03:20:33.879 --> 03:20:37.520 kind of the world situation was changing in critical ways. 3011 03:20:37.920 --> 03:20:41.399 You know, this idea that like Hitler came up with this, 3012 03:20:41.719 --> 03:20:44.680 you know, one day in nineteen twenty two because it 3013 03:20:44.760 --> 03:20:47.799 seemed like a way to kind of sway public opinion 3014 03:20:48.000 --> 03:20:50.760 like is ridiculous. You know, the degree with which Hyler 3015 03:20:50.840 --> 03:20:55.159 was a product of of that time and epoch, particularly 3016 03:20:55.239 --> 03:20:58.959 the you know Lin's and at the turn of the century. 3017 03:20:59.559 --> 03:21:02.479 I mean, don't get me wrong, Hill, there was by 3018 03:21:02.520 --> 03:21:09.159 no means like a politician or a conventional political actor, 3019 03:21:09.639 --> 03:21:16.399 but nothing, nothing that uh he considered to be you know, 3020 03:21:16.479 --> 03:21:20.840 the intractable kind of core of the NSD A P 3021 03:21:21.079 --> 03:21:22.879 and its ambitions like no, no, that was like, none 3022 03:21:22.879 --> 03:21:26.200 of that was strange, None of that was you know, 3023 03:21:26.840 --> 03:21:29.920 issues a first impression or you know, or anything like that. 3024 03:21:32.680 --> 03:21:35.200 Apparently his first kind of real passion of the opera 3025 03:21:35.760 --> 03:21:43.280 he came from a Longer in the Wagner Opera he 3026 03:21:43.879 --> 03:21:49.840 played at the Linz Opera House and the uh for 3027 03:21:49.879 --> 03:21:55.840 those that don't know, in Longer and a key episode 3028 03:21:56.000 --> 03:22:01.000 is ah King Henry two assembols, uh like the German 3029 03:22:01.079 --> 03:22:06.280 Knights who are trying to expel uh like the mag Yards. Okay, 3030 03:22:06.360 --> 03:22:10.399 which I mean interestingly, you know what I mean obviously 3031 03:22:10.440 --> 03:22:17.920 would resonate with with the habs for Austrian kid. But uh, 3032 03:22:18.360 --> 03:22:23.719 there's this, uh, there's this like poetic refrain when the 3033 03:22:23.879 --> 03:22:27.760 King's addressing the men that Travis says, quote, let the 3034 03:22:27.840 --> 03:22:30.319 reichs m L appear. We're well prepared to see him 3035 03:22:30.360 --> 03:22:32.680 near from his eastern desert plane. He'll never dare to 3036 03:22:32.719 --> 03:22:35.639 stir again. The German starts of German Land. That's the 3037 03:22:35.760 --> 03:22:38.239 rich and vigor, that's well, the right in vigor stand 3038 03:22:39.440 --> 03:22:41.239 if you go by his own testimony as well as 3039 03:22:41.239 --> 03:22:42.799 if you go by kind of the what what can 3040 03:22:42.879 --> 03:22:47.040 be verified as populating the kind of cultural landscape of 3041 03:22:47.079 --> 03:22:50.879 the time, you know, these things that these kinds of 3042 03:22:51.000 --> 03:22:57.719 key aspects a Feler's early romanticism, as well as kind 3043 03:22:57.719 --> 03:23:02.000 of as the kind of cultural pastief that you know, 3044 03:23:02.120 --> 03:23:04.319 he he wanted a national Solson to become a kind 3045 03:23:04.319 --> 03:23:07.840 of a vehicle of this stuff developed when he was 3046 03:23:07.879 --> 03:23:12.200 a kid. And I think people who commit themselves to 3047 03:23:12.520 --> 03:23:15.559 things of that nature, I mean great and small. I mean, 3048 03:23:15.600 --> 03:23:18.040 obviously I'm not talking to I'm talking about regular people 3049 03:23:18.079 --> 03:23:20.479 like myself, not just you know, kind of great meount 3050 03:23:20.479 --> 03:23:24.000 of history. Like the stuff you really get into, this 3051 03:23:24.040 --> 03:23:26.600 stuff like that you get into before like pre adolescens. 3052 03:23:27.360 --> 03:23:29.000 Like the stuff you're into is like a teenager or 3053 03:23:29.000 --> 03:23:30.719 a young man comes and goes. It tends to be 3054 03:23:30.840 --> 03:23:34.000 kind of informed by passion and then the moment sort 3055 03:23:34.040 --> 03:23:36.319 of impulses. But like the stuff you can do when 3056 03:23:36.360 --> 03:23:38.639 you're a kid, when you're like no longer an infant, 3057 03:23:38.840 --> 03:23:40.840 but you're like, but you're not properly like an adolescent 3058 03:23:40.959 --> 03:23:43.200 yet the stuff you can do when you're like ten, eleven, 3059 03:23:43.239 --> 03:23:46.319 twelve years old. You know, you can't fully understand it 3060 03:23:47.000 --> 03:23:53.639 yet in terms of it's it's core characteristics. That's kind 3061 03:23:53.639 --> 03:23:55.200 of like what stays with you as a mature man, 3062 03:23:55.840 --> 03:24:01.559 you know, Like I think it's uh, it's somewhat different 3063 03:24:01.600 --> 03:24:03.559 for women, but like women have to grow up fast too, 3064 03:24:04.079 --> 03:24:08.200 you know, but it's I firmly believe this. I think 3065 03:24:08.239 --> 03:24:11.399 it's uh. I think it should be written about more 3066 03:24:14.959 --> 03:24:22.639 but the you know, the real kind of you know 3067 03:24:22.719 --> 03:24:27.079 that more than the un than the than the Vienna. 3068 03:24:27.360 --> 03:24:33.239 Hitler I think, uh. I think informs the the structure 3069 03:24:33.280 --> 03:24:36.719 that the the mans like Hitler. The man's like uh 3070 03:24:37.920 --> 03:24:41.000 Kubazac when people, you know, I think Coopsac is uh 3071 03:24:42.360 --> 03:24:45.360 something of the unreliable, you know, an unreliable narrator of 3072 03:24:45.680 --> 03:24:50.239 myth and lower. But I think his testimony about Hitler, 3073 03:24:50.440 --> 03:24:52.600 I mean basically tracks in my opinion, with what other 3074 03:24:52.639 --> 03:25:02.760 people say. And it's you know, when Hitler Hitler being 3075 03:25:02.840 --> 03:25:07.479 told Hitler is confident based then on on his you know, 3076 03:25:07.559 --> 03:25:09.399 what he'd submitted to other people who were in a 3077 03:25:09.440 --> 03:25:12.559 position to judge such things, you know, kind of people 3078 03:25:12.600 --> 03:25:16.840 in like administrative and gatekeeper roles. Okay, when he does 3079 03:25:17.000 --> 03:25:20.440 when he he was confident that his portfolio would be accepted, 3080 03:25:20.559 --> 03:25:22.879 you know, to the School of Fine Arts, like when 3081 03:25:22.920 --> 03:25:25.440 it wasn't, and when the rector said, I don't know, 3082 03:25:25.479 --> 03:25:27.959 but don't be discouraged. You know, your your your ability 3083 03:25:28.000 --> 03:25:30.840 obviously lives in the field of architecture, young man. You know, 3084 03:25:30.879 --> 03:25:33.280 it wasn't just that. It wasn't just that Hitler didn't 3085 03:25:33.280 --> 03:25:37.360 want to jump to bunch of hoops and probably his 3086 03:25:37.479 --> 03:25:40.879 financial situation wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't allow that. But I mean 3087 03:25:40.920 --> 03:25:43.319 it was that his whole kind of susition itself and 3088 03:25:43.399 --> 03:25:46.159 what he wanted out of life. And you know the 3089 03:25:47.079 --> 03:25:50.120 you know, artists artist view themselves is wanting to participate 3090 03:25:50.200 --> 03:25:52.399 in something like greater than the cell. It's very spiritual. 3091 03:25:53.120 --> 03:25:55.360 You know that this this was crushing in a way. 3092 03:25:55.600 --> 03:25:58.559 It wouldn't be just you know, if if Hitler didn't 3093 03:25:58.799 --> 03:26:01.959 land his first job he coveted or something, you know, 3094 03:26:04.120 --> 03:26:09.399 and uh, immediately after you know, like the following month. 3095 03:26:10.719 --> 03:26:14.680 That's when Hitler received a news from the postmaster that 3096 03:26:14.760 --> 03:26:19.200 his mother was dying. You know, so he rushed back 3097 03:26:21.000 --> 03:26:24.079 to Linz, you know he could. He sought out doctor 3098 03:26:24.200 --> 03:26:28.680 Block again, who when Hitler's mom first fell ill, you know, 3099 03:26:28.920 --> 03:26:32.680 was uh the doctor Hitler retained because he was you know, 3100 03:26:32.719 --> 03:26:34.520 he had a reputation from being you know, the best 3101 03:26:34.559 --> 03:26:40.319 in his field. The drastic treatments that uh were available 3102 03:26:40.399 --> 03:26:49.360 then involved involved treating the patient with large doses, like 3103 03:26:49.479 --> 03:26:58.319 dangerous large doses of idio form. What's uh, I I 3104 03:26:58.680 --> 03:27:02.760 it's basically a kind of crew for a chemotherapy, you know, 3105 03:27:03.040 --> 03:27:09.280 something with the surgery in somebody where a metastasist is 3106 03:27:09.319 --> 03:27:13.719 already present. They they'd be wrapped the open wound to 3107 03:27:13.760 --> 03:27:23.840 be wrapped in clause causes dipped in idio form and 3108 03:27:23.959 --> 03:27:27.959 idio form it would Uh one of the side effects 3109 03:27:28.040 --> 03:27:32.280 is that the patient wouldn't be able to swallow. You know, 3110 03:27:32.319 --> 03:27:36.360 it was uh, it was. It sounds like a kind 3111 03:27:36.360 --> 03:27:42.120 of torture, you know. You know, and Block admonis Hitler 3112 03:27:42.200 --> 03:27:44.719 that you know this this is a very dangerous procedure, 3113 03:27:44.760 --> 03:27:49.280 and I there's not any reason to believe that she'll recover, 3114 03:27:49.440 --> 03:27:55.600 but this is all we can do. And you know, uh, 3115 03:27:56.040 --> 03:28:00.840 Block explained later in his interviews, you always said that, 3116 03:28:01.399 --> 03:28:04.879 you know, the procedure was the idio form itself as 3117 03:28:04.920 --> 03:28:10.840 a as a nauseating odor like chemical odor. It would 3118 03:28:10.879 --> 03:28:14.479 burn its way to the tissues, you know, to kill 3119 03:28:14.520 --> 03:28:18.719 the tumors ideally, but it was it was it basically 3120 03:28:18.719 --> 03:28:24.120 would torture the patient. Okay, Block said the Hitler's mom 3121 03:28:25.159 --> 03:28:30.520 was was it typically stoic germanly. He said that quote 3122 03:28:30.600 --> 03:28:35.000 unflinchingly and uncomplainingly. She bore her burden, but it seemed 3123 03:28:35.040 --> 03:28:37.840 to torture her son. An English grimace would come over 3124 03:28:38.280 --> 03:28:40.600 him when he saw when he saw pain contractor face 3125 03:28:41.520 --> 03:28:53.120 speaking of him, speaking of Hitler, when uh, when she died, uh, 3126 03:28:55.840 --> 03:29:02.760 you know, Block expressed as condolence as the Hitler you know, 3127 03:29:03.079 --> 03:29:08.360 and Hitler thank Block for everything he'd done. He assured 3128 03:29:08.440 --> 03:29:11.079 him that he'd been compensated for the remainder of who 3129 03:29:11.200 --> 03:29:15.280 was owed and he was the Dodter said he saw 3130 03:29:15.319 --> 03:29:17.680 that Hitler was Hitler's sketch. Pat Hitler had drawn a 3131 03:29:17.760 --> 03:29:20.520 final sketch of his mom like you know, as she died, 3132 03:29:21.200 --> 03:29:23.840 and Block said that you know, he said, and he said, 3133 03:29:23.959 --> 03:29:25.680 I've seen any death bed scenes. I never saw anyone 3134 03:29:25.799 --> 03:29:31.559 so prostrate with griefs off Hitler. Now you know, before people, 3135 03:29:32.000 --> 03:29:33.879 I mean Hitler was with the teenager at this point, 3136 03:29:34.159 --> 03:29:41.079 and before people say like, oh, you know this uh 3137 03:29:41.760 --> 03:29:47.600 represents some sort of in a pro age and appropriate 3138 03:29:47.639 --> 03:29:50.280 attachment to his mom or something like Hitler's mom was 3139 03:29:50.280 --> 03:29:53.959 already had. You know, he had a dead father who 3140 03:29:53.959 --> 03:29:58.719 had been a you know, a mean bully who was 3141 03:29:58.799 --> 03:30:00.799 kind of loathed by everybody. You know, he had four 3142 03:30:00.879 --> 03:30:02.680 dead siblings in the grave. You had a big brother 3143 03:30:02.799 --> 03:30:05.440 who like you know, ran away and never looked back. 3144 03:30:05.680 --> 03:30:07.159 He had a little sister that he had to take 3145 03:30:07.239 --> 03:30:10.079 care of, you know. I mean I and plus like 3146 03:30:10.159 --> 03:30:12.719 leaving your mom sucks. I speak of experience, you know 3147 03:30:12.760 --> 03:30:16.920 what I mean, Like it's I uh, yeah, you know, 3148 03:30:17.799 --> 03:30:22.840 especially and it's one thing if uh, it's one thing 3149 03:30:22.920 --> 03:30:25.399 if you're you know, if you're a married man and 3150 03:30:25.479 --> 03:30:28.079 you got you know, like a family and like you know, 3151 03:30:28.319 --> 03:30:31.840 people around you, it's like, you know, uh, at the 3152 03:30:31.920 --> 03:30:34.319 end of the day, Like you know, if if you're 3153 03:30:34.360 --> 03:30:36.239 a single man, it's like your mom and your dad 3154 03:30:36.319 --> 03:30:38.200 care about you, and like that's about it, you know 3155 03:30:38.200 --> 03:30:41.120 what I mean. And that's not that's not he's playing 3156 03:30:41.159 --> 03:30:43.520 some kind of murder or something, but it's you know, 3157 03:30:43.559 --> 03:30:45.319 it hits hard if you're a young person and your 3158 03:30:45.360 --> 03:30:47.319 mom dies, you know what I mean. I mean, it 3159 03:30:47.440 --> 03:30:51.959 hits hard anyway. But you know the and like I said, block, 3160 03:30:53.120 --> 03:30:57.799 he was emphatic, you know, he said, hilar He's like obviously, 3161 03:30:57.879 --> 03:31:02.440 you know, like I was enjoying certain privileges and immunities 3162 03:31:02.440 --> 03:31:04.319 I would not have if I was not doctor. You 3163 03:31:04.319 --> 03:31:07.600 know who I who I am? The right government. This 3164 03:31:07.719 --> 03:31:11.040 idea that like Hitler like was seeking revenging his block 3165 03:31:11.200 --> 03:31:14.000 or something, and this you know, took on this like 3166 03:31:14.239 --> 03:31:17.479 anti Jewish posture, and that's that's fucking ridiculous. But it's 3167 03:31:18.959 --> 03:31:20.680 the reason I ever size this is because it's, like 3168 03:31:20.799 --> 03:31:26.600 I said, it's not there's not really any way I 3169 03:31:26.719 --> 03:31:30.319 understand Hitler without you know, appealing to kind of symbolic 3170 03:31:30.520 --> 03:31:34.319 psychological phenomenon. I mean, that's true for like any you know, 3171 03:31:34.399 --> 03:31:40.559 Alexander the Great very probably murdered his father. I know 3172 03:31:40.639 --> 03:31:44.600 that there's there's a controversies and people have many I mean, 3173 03:31:44.600 --> 03:31:46.959 there's many kind of competing theories, but I you know, 3174 03:31:50.319 --> 03:31:52.719 one part because he felt his mother was being disrespected 3175 03:31:52.840 --> 03:31:56.200 by the you know, his father's kind of new concubine 3176 03:31:56.200 --> 03:31:59.280 and became the favored wife. And also that you know 3177 03:32:01.879 --> 03:32:08.920 who wasn't Macedonian, but uh, you know, and and and 3178 03:32:09.040 --> 03:32:12.079 the heir apparent would become, you know, the child that 3179 03:32:12.159 --> 03:32:15.600 he sided with her. But it's you know, you're not 3180 03:32:15.639 --> 03:32:19.799 gonna find You're not gonna find a kind of squeaky 3181 03:32:19.879 --> 03:32:24.280 clean I don't know if that's even the right way 3182 03:32:24.280 --> 03:32:30.680 to characterize it. Your early life in ah and An 3183 03:32:30.719 --> 03:32:35.319 a truly great man's biography, and especially I think he's 3184 03:32:35.319 --> 03:32:43.760 a Hitler, you know, like Stophie's always driving home and 3185 03:32:43.879 --> 03:32:49.120 his kind of rebuttal biography of if you're Hitler, wasn't 3186 03:32:49.159 --> 03:32:52.840 the politician. Pretty much at every opportunity, Hitler avoided politics 3187 03:32:52.959 --> 03:32:54.719 or said this is a waste of our time, or 3188 03:32:55.520 --> 03:32:58.200 he didn't monish people, you know, like he did von 3189 03:32:58.319 --> 03:33:02.559 Popp and and and the kind of leg see the 3190 03:33:02.639 --> 03:33:05.239 members of the legacy regime, you know, like you don't 3191 03:33:05.319 --> 03:33:07.959 understand what we're doing here, like you know, we this 3192 03:33:08.079 --> 03:33:11.239 is a historical mission. We're thinking in terms of millennia. 3193 03:33:12.120 --> 03:33:13.959 You know, we're not. We're not trying to We're not 3194 03:33:14.000 --> 03:33:16.079 trying to come to terms with the social Democrats with 3195 03:33:16.159 --> 03:33:18.959 the budgets. You know, We're not We're not We're not 3196 03:33:19.040 --> 03:33:22.360 playing this. We're not engaged in this charade of parliamentarism, 3197 03:33:23.319 --> 03:33:30.799 you know. Where uh, we're engaged in a world historical enterprise, 3198 03:33:33.120 --> 03:33:39.000 probably side unseen since Genghis Khan. You know, and I've 3199 03:33:39.000 --> 03:33:41.399 emphasized before in my writing as well as in our discussions, 3200 03:33:45.639 --> 03:33:53.319 the degree to which Hitler and particularly Himmler emphasized Yasa 3201 03:33:54.319 --> 03:33:58.280 as well as other aspects of the Mongol culture. But 3202 03:33:58.360 --> 03:34:02.399 you know, Yasa was the it was the oral legal tradition, uh, 3203 03:34:02.639 --> 03:34:10.319 knowledge of which was restricted to a dedicated caste. But 3204 03:34:13.399 --> 03:34:16.319 the national socialist interest in it, in this kind of thing, 3205 03:34:16.440 --> 03:34:21.200 particularly in the subject, was nuanced. But the understanding that 3206 03:34:21.959 --> 03:34:26.120 we've got this kind of pastiche of peoples that constitute 3207 03:34:26.399 --> 03:34:31.040 you know, our our our our civilizational organism that were 3208 03:34:31.079 --> 03:34:34.040 scattered to the wind by the thirty years of war. 3209 03:34:34.639 --> 03:34:37.680 You know, now we're trying to create a kind of 3210 03:34:37.719 --> 03:34:42.600 cohesion there in and rebuild and bring up our racial 3211 03:34:42.680 --> 03:34:46.399 stock or cultural stock, if you what do you prefer 3212 03:34:47.680 --> 03:34:53.120 that's become weakened, and is is definitely inferior in critical 3213 03:34:53.159 --> 03:34:58.000 ways vis a vis our adversaries. And we've we've got to, 3214 03:34:58.520 --> 03:35:00.600 you know, we we've got to create a kind of 3215 03:35:00.639 --> 03:35:04.559 new European man. You know, these are things that the 3216 03:35:04.639 --> 03:35:06.879 Mongols were charged with two in their own way. I 3217 03:35:06.959 --> 03:35:11.719 mean the Mongols they you know, the Turks when they 3218 03:35:11.760 --> 03:35:17.559 were you know, a step people. They uh you know, 3219 03:35:17.639 --> 03:35:20.760 they were they they were like a pastige of ethnicities, 3220 03:35:21.479 --> 03:35:24.399 you know that they'd taken on as as janissaries of 3221 03:35:24.479 --> 03:35:28.159 slaves and you then were like manumitted and assimilated. I mean, 3222 03:35:28.200 --> 03:35:33.719 it wasn't we're not talking about that degree of of alienage, 3223 03:35:33.920 --> 03:35:39.399 you know, between German people. But Hitler was correct, and 3224 03:35:39.600 --> 03:35:42.079 uh what he described as you know, the kind of 3225 03:35:42.120 --> 03:35:48.360 shattering catalysts of the Thirty Years War and you know, 3226 03:35:48.840 --> 03:35:53.719 uh later modernity on the Germans as the people and 3227 03:35:53.840 --> 03:35:59.719 thus Europeans as a people. You know. So that's uh, 3228 03:36:01.600 --> 03:36:05.920 that's key. And I mean I and of course to 3229 03:36:06.239 --> 03:36:13.399 the the thing to keep anybody who anybody who views 3230 03:36:13.440 --> 03:36:20.959 himself as possessing a mandate, a providential mandate, uh A 3231 03:36:22.520 --> 03:36:31.959 a world historical right, if you will. Anyone who finds 3232 03:36:31.959 --> 03:36:38.159 themselves in circumstances where they are the agent of of history, 3233 03:36:39.360 --> 03:36:42.000 or of providence or of a divine will. You know, 3234 03:36:42.040 --> 03:36:44.440 whether you're talking about Cromwell or Muhammad, or Hiller or 3235 03:36:44.520 --> 03:36:50.719 Napoleon or Genghis Khan, you're gonna be forced to say 3236 03:36:50.760 --> 03:36:59.559 aside conventional moral considerations because at a at at a 3237 03:36:59.639 --> 03:37:07.040 certain scale, and that that just doesn't apply anymore, you know, 3238 03:37:09.280 --> 03:37:16.520 And that's certain the exigence, the exigency is presented, do 3239 03:37:16.680 --> 03:37:21.920 not allow or individuated moral judgments. That's just reality, you know. 3240 03:37:26.799 --> 03:37:30.200 I And people want to pretend like that's an Italien 3241 03:37:30.280 --> 03:37:33.040 phenomenon to America, So I think it's absolutely not. That's whatever. 3242 03:37:33.200 --> 03:37:36.360 During the Cold War, that's what every every man who 3243 03:37:36.879 --> 03:37:40.319 who took the oath of office had to be prepared 3244 03:37:40.360 --> 03:37:46.200 to kill tens of millions of a Soviets. I mean, 3245 03:37:46.239 --> 03:37:50.600 like that's you know, within minutes potentially, you know, so 3246 03:37:52.319 --> 03:37:54.360 Americans don't going to echo aloof and say like, oh no, 3247 03:37:54.520 --> 03:37:59.079 this is an alibi of you know, people in the 3248 03:37:59.319 --> 03:38:04.680 old world who you know becausessor developed moral understanding. But 3249 03:38:05.559 --> 03:38:09.200 you know, the one of the things about people like Hitler, 3250 03:38:09.440 --> 03:38:14.639 like Muhammad, like Cromwell, despite the kind of dummy cliffs 3251 03:38:14.719 --> 03:38:20.159 notes propaganda versions of Hitler's a sendency or of like 3252 03:38:20.479 --> 03:38:23.280 or or what these like chet Nick types and these 3253 03:38:23.360 --> 03:38:28.399 Zionist say about, like Muhammad, you can be the biggest 3254 03:38:28.479 --> 03:38:31.040 con man in the world, and like people aren't gonna 3255 03:38:31.040 --> 03:38:33.479 people aren't gonna follow you like you're a prophet, or 3256 03:38:33.479 --> 03:38:36.719 they're not gonna they're not gonna decide you're like a 3257 03:38:36.760 --> 03:38:45.159 stride history and you know, and and and and and 3258 03:38:45.319 --> 03:38:47.319 just you know, say yeah, I agree with you. You're 3259 03:38:47.319 --> 03:38:49.920 a messianic person just because you say so. That's not 3260 03:38:49.959 --> 03:38:52.559 the way things work. Like Hitler was the fear, because 3261 03:38:52.559 --> 03:38:59.120 that's what eighty million people said. You know, Muhammad apparently 3262 03:38:59.239 --> 03:39:02.799 was a messenger of God because well, the entire Arabian 3263 03:39:02.799 --> 03:39:07.040 peninsula said he was. You know. Agur Cromwell was never 3264 03:39:07.079 --> 03:39:12.360 particularly religious. When he was about forty years old, he 3265 03:39:12.440 --> 03:39:15.639 started claiming he was in communion with God. And he 3266 03:39:15.719 --> 03:39:18.680 had no military experience, but he just like one day 3267 03:39:18.799 --> 03:39:22.479 raised an army and uh went and cut the king's 3268 03:39:22.520 --> 03:39:26.120 head off, you know what I mean? Like that, you 3269 03:39:26.200 --> 03:39:29.399 can you can't just like decide that what you're gonna be, 3270 03:39:30.239 --> 03:39:35.159 you know, and you can't you can't just you can't 3271 03:39:35.239 --> 03:39:39.040 just say like subtle circumstances and how facilitated this like 3272 03:39:39.120 --> 03:39:42.520 mythology being developed after the facts, you know. So I 3273 03:39:42.559 --> 03:39:50.000 mean there's there's that too, I but I focused on 3274 03:39:51.360 --> 03:39:54.360 what it did today because, like I said, they kind 3275 03:39:54.360 --> 03:40:03.040 of the main excluding Tall and obviously the main court 3276 03:40:03.159 --> 03:40:10.760 history biographies of of Adolf Hitler. They claim that Hitler's 3277 03:40:10.799 --> 03:40:16.719 early life and his purported psychological frailties and mythologies they're 3278 03:40:16.760 --> 03:40:21.639 in is what made him evil, and that coupled with 3279 03:40:22.680 --> 03:40:25.280 this like irrational desire for revenge in the week of 3280 03:40:25.360 --> 03:40:31.760 World War One, his constitutes like you know, the the 3281 03:40:32.319 --> 03:40:42.559 the psychological landscape of of of of Hitler. Okay, and 3282 03:40:42.719 --> 03:40:46.760 none of that makes any sense, But that's why I 3283 03:40:46.799 --> 03:40:50.000 focused on what I did. And also I didn't if 3284 03:40:50.079 --> 03:40:56.760 people had the things they wanted to raise about the series. Generally, 3285 03:40:56.799 --> 03:40:59.760 I thought we'd cover that, but I put a solicited question. 3286 03:41:00.360 --> 03:41:03.600 People didn't really have anything outstanding, at least at least 3287 03:41:03.639 --> 03:41:05.559 it hadn't kind of been asked and answered. But that's 3288 03:41:07.920 --> 03:41:10.440 that's uh, yeah, what I got for today. Man s 3289 03:41:10.600 --> 03:41:12.719 for being this being kind of brief, but like I said, 3290 03:41:12.799 --> 03:41:14.600 you can tell him not at one hundred percent yet, 3291 03:41:16.159 --> 03:41:16.920 but I hope. 3292 03:41:16.799 --> 03:41:17.760 Uh not a problem. 3293 03:41:17.799 --> 03:41:20.000 Oh yeah, I hope I would like it. 3294 03:41:21.319 --> 03:41:23.040 I think I would like to do an episode one 3295 03:41:23.079 --> 03:41:26.959 day where we just asked the tough questions about about him. 3296 03:41:27.120 --> 03:41:30.479 No, that's fine man, And I'm always yeah, I uh, 3297 03:41:30.680 --> 03:41:34.680 people always getting on me to do a space I 3298 03:41:35.840 --> 03:41:38.120 I don't really like Twitter is like the platform to 3299 03:41:38.200 --> 03:41:42.479 do live stuff, but we should do. I definitely like 3300 03:41:42.559 --> 03:41:46.360 to do a stream on Hitler, you know, like basically 3301 03:41:46.440 --> 03:41:49.200 on our series that we just completed, but you know, 3302 03:41:49.239 --> 03:41:52.239 outstanding questions and stuff that people want to take up. 3303 03:41:54.319 --> 03:41:59.319 Sure, I have a bunch too. So well it's two 3304 03:41:59.399 --> 03:42:03.440 plugs and uh, let you get back to heal it up. 3305 03:42:04.120 --> 03:42:07.040 Yeah. I'll be fine, man, I mean I but yeah, 3306 03:42:07.120 --> 03:42:11.920 thanks for the well wishes. You can find me. My 3307 03:42:12.000 --> 03:42:15.639 one stop shot for all my content is it's just 3308 03:42:15.760 --> 03:42:19.680 my website. It's Thomas seven seven seven dot com is 3309 03:42:19.799 --> 03:42:22.360 number seven h o A S seven seven seven dot com. 3310 03:42:23.639 --> 03:42:27.680 The podcast and other good stuff is on substack. It's 3311 03:42:27.799 --> 03:42:33.879 real Thomas seven seven seven dot substate dot com. The 3312 03:42:34.040 --> 03:42:40.040 Twitter is real Capital r e A L underscore number 3313 03:42:40.120 --> 03:42:45.639 seven h om A S seven seven seven. I'm on 3314 03:42:45.760 --> 03:42:49.559 Instagram and TikTok and I'll add bullshit. But like I said, 3315 03:42:49.559 --> 03:42:51.319 seeking you shall find like go to my Twitter or 3316 03:42:51.360 --> 03:42:52.360 go to my website. 3317 03:42:53.559 --> 03:42:53.879 All that. 3318 03:42:55.399 --> 03:42:59.440 I uh, I'm in the process of a and like 3319 03:42:59.520 --> 03:43:02.399 a colleague of mine, we're we're putting together some immerseed 3320 03:43:02.440 --> 03:43:04.399 that long Last is going to be available on the 3321 03:43:04.440 --> 03:43:14.559 gum Road. And thanks again for for during the movie 3322 03:43:14.600 --> 03:43:17.959 series with me. People are very excited about that and 3323 03:43:18.079 --> 03:43:19.879 it gives me something to populate my gum Road with 3324 03:43:20.559 --> 03:43:24.920 as I kind of you know, diversify products they're available 3325 03:43:24.959 --> 03:43:28.719 and stuff. But yeah, man, that's what I got. And 3326 03:43:28.879 --> 03:43:31.840 well we'll reconvened later this week and do more stuff. 3327 03:43:33.280 --> 03:43:33.559 Thank you. 3328 03:43:33.719 --> 03:43:34.280 Have a good ey