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<v Speaker 1>Recent live event in Austin. It went great. Hopefully everybody

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<v Speaker 1>can hear me right, there's no stupid videos playing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't even know where I am. I'm so tired.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even think does this sound good? Should be?

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<v Speaker 1>We always get complaints from the Peanut gallery about the

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<v Speaker 1>sound looking fresh. I don't feel fresh. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on my man period because I am so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like a fresh lady running through the fields.

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<v Speaker 1>As we walk through fields of gold. You know me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>Hun he That was my impression of soft sting. That

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sting. That was soft sting. That was stubby, like

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<v Speaker 1>a sting you get stung with a pointy thing. That

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<v Speaker 1>was getting stung with a butter knife. That was soft sting.

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<v Speaker 1>That was stubby, Luna less when pawn. We have so

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<v Speaker 1>many complaints about the sound and my screaming. We're such

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<v Speaker 1>a tribute to Samuel Hyde, the extreme gain scream. Did

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<v Speaker 1>nobody pick up on that? Yourself? Suck, dude, You're the

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<v Speaker 1>worst person to exist, piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Your sound is demonored.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm so tired, dude. Doll sting very it was

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<v Speaker 1>very sensual because I was over there doing that tantra.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing that tantric meditation with Stang and I

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<v Speaker 1>got stung. Wah wah, wah. What'll we doing today. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talking about an aspect of institutional capture, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the capturing of religious institutions. And we're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>at other institutions and the techniques academically on record admitted

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<v Speaker 1>as to how this was done, and we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna realize that Hey, no surprise, it's the exact same

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<v Speaker 1>thing in the church churches in general. Yeah. Yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>yoga pants are tingling. I hope your yoga pants are

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<v Speaker 1>tingling right now. If you heard my little.

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<v Speaker 2>Clip clip clip clip clip clip clip.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about that clip clack clap brat. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for the Yeah, you guys haven't even seen. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other thing that nobody even knows about. Secret thing

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<v Speaker 1>we did. It'll be out in aprilish. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin. It was a double fiasco. I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>what the other event is, but it's big, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say that, and probably one of the craziest weeks, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most proud I've ever been in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>dreams coming true, and well, it's not exactly that clause,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just say that I was dressed up as

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<v Speaker 1>prominent world Bond villain, and let's say that full production involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just say that maybe it'll go out one

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<v Speaker 1>day to a large audience. Let's just say that. And

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<v Speaker 1>we were hitting on all cylinders. I did have one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that didn't go over so well. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was funny, but it didn't go over so well. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a I Want to Eat the Bugs in

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<v Speaker 1>the style of Kirk Franklin, and that was a out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere at the live event. I thought that was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people liked it. A couple of people were not

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<v Speaker 1>so happy with that, but that's okay. We actually communicate

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<v Speaker 1>those heretics right away anyway. So yeah, we're gonna let's

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the focus on focusing on the topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, forgive me, I'm super tired. I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be just like zoning out, wandering off mentally into who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what. But there's just so much happening, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to understand institutional capture because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big element that explains what's going on in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of religion. And when we look the other worlds of society, economics, banking, corporations, businessman,

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<v Speaker 1>what other society that's academia, These areas of society, they

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<v Speaker 1>have tentacles of the power structure in them. Surely nobody

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<v Speaker 1>finds that controversial. But the idea that there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of coordinated manipulation of institutions for various purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a historical fact, still seems lost in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. And this is partly what keeps people

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<v Speaker 1>in the magic circle, the box within the over to window.

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<v Speaker 1>You can never be outside of the shifting moving over

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<v Speaker 1>to window. Keep you in that magic circle, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>never get anywhere or figure anything out because you're always

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing around within the little magic circle as a pomp

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth, meaning and you never understand things outside

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<v Speaker 1>of at the metal level what's really going on, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. So that's what we try to do here

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<v Speaker 1>is give the big picture, the cross disciplinary meta analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do that by looking in a hopefully scholarly

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<v Speaker 1>and academic way to degree the literature on the subjects.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that includes very technical academic literature, sometimes it includes

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<v Speaker 1>more mainstream pop analyzes. And sometimes that includes more of

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<v Speaker 1>the fringe theoretical. I always try to make it clear

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<v Speaker 1>which we're pulling from. Tonight. We're mainly going to be

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<v Speaker 1>pulling from the academic realm, some of the intelligence analysis realm,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of the theory and speculation realm,

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<v Speaker 1>but not much of that. Tonight is pretty much going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fact fact fact, the fact, the fact that back,

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<v Speaker 1>that fact that back. Now, if you think about ancient empires,

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<v Speaker 1>we still haven't there's so many books we want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to. Here I apologize that we haven't even gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to all the books if we want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a couple of great clips we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>look at that illustrate recent clips that I've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>illustrate our point in other areas. So we got one

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to deal with journalism and intelligence. Hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>know about Mockingbird right. And by the way, when we

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<v Speaker 1>do the Gladio text, which I'm progressing through, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not the part too. If you signed up recently, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. You will still get

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<v Speaker 1>the part two. No, that's not it. Where's the big me,

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<v Speaker 1>make me big baby? There we go, you will still

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<v Speaker 1>get the part two to this and Vatican spies, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know of conspies. And these two texts are great

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<v Speaker 1>companions because this is written by a neo Conish cold

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<v Speaker 1>warrior pro Vatican pro John Pault. Second, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>written by an FBI Catholic consultant to the FBI who

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<v Speaker 1>is very critical of Rome from a just an objective

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<v Speaker 1>critical standpoint, so critical Gladio. But this guy is the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite side of the Cold War fence. But the admissions

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<v Speaker 1>between these two approaches, you'll see, this helps us see

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<v Speaker 1>things outside of the dialectic. You see, you see what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing here. So to read these two together at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time is amazing for the confirmation that we

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<v Speaker 1>get from two different perspectives. Right, we want to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the critical, more liberal minded perspective of the Cold War,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to understand that neo conservative, so called

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<v Speaker 1>right wing capitalist to you know, CIA, cold warrior perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>because as you know, we see both of these as

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a long term game. But these are for

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<v Speaker 1>the technocracy is that's rolling out now, which couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>happened without the Cold War. But both of these texts

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<v Speaker 1>are very important for the notion of institutional capture and

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<v Speaker 1>that I've just seen that so profoundly in this text,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean every chapter in this book is just like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy crap, dude, and I mean holy crap, because it

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<v Speaker 1>literally is the alliance between Vaticans, CIA and MAKA. Now

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<v Speaker 1>all the tradcats get mad. We're not picking on tradcats

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<v Speaker 1>because the point of tonight's discussion is that this same

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<v Speaker 1>issue is in the Orthodox world. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And our great sponsor, we have two sponsors, not just

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Grove, as you guys know, and you know Richard

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<v Speaker 1>brought up I don't know if Richard has talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this text. We did an analysis of this book, and

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<v Speaker 1>this book is relevant for tonight because this is about

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<v Speaker 1>anthropology dorks being used by intelligence in the CIA and

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<v Speaker 1>the studying of ethnography for the weaponization of social engineering

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<v Speaker 1>psyops intelligence operations. So this is more like a specific

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<v Speaker 1>domain of studies, right, Margaret and me Gregory Bates and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these anthropologists who are really just academics huffing

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<v Speaker 1>their own toots who serve the neoliberal world Order establishment

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<v Speaker 1>and that ties in great with this book that Richard

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<v Speaker 1>is always recommending. I got it many years ago. I've

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<v Speaker 1>not delved into this, but I plan into just because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Richard has over at Grant Theft World has

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<v Speaker 1>given this so many props. I know what it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>I read other texts to deal with this, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be looking at Cloak and Gown eventually by Robin Winks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the co opting of spies in academic garb robes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you guys don't know, we did a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did a talk year ago Spies Investments,

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<v Speaker 1>hinting at getting at this idea of Cloak and Gown. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are mainline academic texts. These aren't conspiracy texts.

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<v Speaker 1>These are by professors. This is written by professor David Price.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much all of these books that we deal with

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<v Speaker 1>are written by professors. So and then separate to this,

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<v Speaker 1>but also does tie into it. Yeah, I know about

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<v Speaker 1>the various books, I just haven't got around to getting them.

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<v Speaker 1>So people were like, when you gonna get this other book?

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<v Speaker 1>What about this one? Yes, I'm aware of the Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Ganzer book NATO's Secret armies, so it did arrive. You

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<v Speaker 1>should see my reading table. It's like this giant. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like up to this, up to the roof, the roof,

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<v Speaker 1>the roof, the roof is on fire because of all

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<v Speaker 1>the books. It's a reading hat. It's a fire, has

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<v Speaker 1>all the books stacked up. So we're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get very high four fifty one up in here. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys know, the most important text on this topic,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the Bible of this topic, is none other

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<v Speaker 1>than John Courtney Murray Time Life Magazine American Proposal, which

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially the key, it's the master key to understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that Vatican Two, the liberalization of Rome, Catholicism or are

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<v Speaker 1>not solely due to audio illogical and theological dorks sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around in arguingent theology. Rather powerful, powerful interests with unlimited

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<v Speaker 1>Fiat money pouring their wealth, their power, their influence into

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<v Speaker 1>religious institutions of the seminaries change the face of these institutions.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus the you could say, long march through the institutions. However, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>especially all the Cold Warriors, especially the Tracats boomers, they

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<v Speaker 1>still think this is commis. It's just an element of COMMI, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not commies. It's a little element of commis, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's ultimately monopoly capital behind Fabian socialists and these Fabians

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<v Speaker 1>as we know one hundred years ago, what did we

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<v Speaker 1>see utilize religious institutions? Russell interested in web Let's use

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<v Speaker 1>Islam as a way to transform the UK that then

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<v Speaker 1>expanded to the transformation of Europe. You understand. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a geopolitical move fostered by Cambridge Oxford academics through the

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<v Speaker 1>funding that came through LSC London School of Economics and

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<v Speaker 1>the Milliner Fabian circles. Therefore, once again we can see

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<v Speaker 1>with the religious institution of Islam, this is the old

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<v Speaker 1>British strategy. And we've lectured through multiple texts Mark Curtis's

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<v Speaker 1>Secret Affairs, Robert Dreyfuss's Devil's Game. I mean, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>so many of these where we Gould and fifth Year Olds,

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<v Speaker 1>Invisible Empire, all prominent historical geopolitical texts that deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the British imperial strategy of using Islam. Another text that

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<v Speaker 1>deals with this that's kind of overlooked is Lost Hegemon.

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<v Speaker 1>My Ingdall and Lost Hegemon is a great segue into

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<v Speaker 1>this topic because ingdol in. This book also gets into

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<v Speaker 1>the usage of evangelicals, evangelicals and Islamic networks such as

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<v Speaker 1>the FETA Gulian network. So you know about the Gulian network.

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<v Speaker 1>You know about the sitting up the setting up of

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<v Speaker 1>many many radical Islamic groups through the Muslim Brotherhood, which

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<v Speaker 1>has essentially always been an adjacent to and an attache

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<v Speaker 1>of British intelligence. And this and the sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>setting up of you know, the Sykes Pico All of

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<v Speaker 1>that was in part done through religious manipulation. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>Right here it is and this shouldn't come as any surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>the methodology, methodology, and tactics of Western intelligence to use

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<v Speaker 1>this is an intelligence from if you can't figure that out,

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<v Speaker 1>pushing Ukrainian nationalism, even the evangelical groups. You see this,

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<v Speaker 1>and why is that? Well, that's because they're adjacent to

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<v Speaker 1>or under Uncle Sam. Can you not figure that out?

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<v Speaker 1>The State Department? You don't know this, And then we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta find that SPZH article. This is what it's about

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<v Speaker 1>in the long run. We'll get to that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna talk about this right now, but can

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<v Speaker 1>you guys see that right there? Yeah? There we go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we're looking at in the long run,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, for where they want to take Orthodoxy

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<v Speaker 1>and Rome. You can see it symbolized here very clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that plays into what goes on in the US

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of religious engineering and subversion. So humanism is

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<v Speaker 1>It's not ultimately about religious theology. It only cares about

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about geopolitics. That's fine, you don't know about geopolitics,

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<v Speaker 1>but if we do want to have discernment in our age,

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<v Speaker 1>the church theology? Well, sure, do they just want to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the church? No, they wanted to change the church,

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<v Speaker 1>change the theology. Why because to arian or semi arian emperors,

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<v Speaker 1>Aryan theology allows the state to be deified. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you work your way up to Byzantine theology to the

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<v Speaker 1>iconic class controversy, the same situation occurs where you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have images in the iconoclast worldview of anything theological, but

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<v Speaker 1>you do have the images of the emperor. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>and it was imposed by heterodox emperors to back up

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<v Speaker 1>heterodox theology. So you better believe that geopolitics manifests the

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<v Speaker 1>metaphysical and theological presubpositions. Of course it does. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think that, then you're being ahistorical and you're

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<v Speaker 1>denying your own Orthodox history of the businessing Empire and

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<v Speaker 1>the splits with the West. Right, So what happens in

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolinians when the Carolinians adopt, you know, Augustinian and

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<v Speaker 1>Neoplatonic theology. This plays itself out in a certain quest

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<v Speaker 1>that Charlemagne has to conquer and change the creed of

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<v Speaker 1>Orthodox Leans to now include the Philly Oquay. And as

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<v Speaker 1>of the Seventh Council actually rejected it. And Charlemagne and

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<v Speaker 1>his Carolinian court theologians actually rejected the Seventh Council. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholics, if you're ignorant of that, I'm sorry. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not my fault. That's facts that submitted history. You can read.

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholic historians though, now admit all this. So so

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<v Speaker 1>we can't unfortunately separate geopolitics from the spiritual. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people like to do this and pretend that they're

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about all this, and they're not worried about

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<v Speaker 1>all this. And ironically, a lot of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>take that approach have actually sided with the EP and

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<v Speaker 1>made serious mistakes, which makes absolutely no sense, because of

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<v Speaker 1>course the EP formerly recognized Metropolitan Newfree on the books.

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<v Speaker 1>The other patriarch is still recognized Metropolitan New Free, but

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<v Speaker 1>now because the State Department, they're forced through geopolitical power

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ukraine. And we had a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories. And the article doesn't even make any it's

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<v Speaker 1>terribly written by this like want to be pietous, dude, right, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's look at how ridiculous this article is over

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<v Speaker 1>at Ortho Christian. And I think that the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I really I don't really care that they. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason I paid attention to this because it

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's just odd to me that I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea who Steven Simpson is. But this article argues

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<v Speaker 1>that one time there was a guy who was a

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholic bishop who started having visions of prophecies. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I has nothing to do with and he prophesied the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the world, and he was a fraud, and

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<v Speaker 1>so therefore you shouldn't be into conspiracy theories. Literally, like

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<v Speaker 1>the worst, the stupidest argumentation I've ever seen in an article.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, that's a con man. And so a con

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<v Speaker 1>man talking about end times delusions, that's not a That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even fit with a conspiracy theorist. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theorist is different from an end times delusional,

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<v Speaker 1>prelass based pseudo prophet. Okay. And so this guy goes

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<v Speaker 1>at my quotes from the Saints, because it says, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid of anything or anyone. There's nothing new under

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah eleven. Do not say a conspiracy a conspiracy? These

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<v Speaker 1>people call a conspiracy. What is not a conspiracy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that has nothing to do with the present situation of

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<v Speaker 1>the world where every day we're dealing with geopolitical espionage

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<v Speaker 1>and conspiracy on a global scale. And his own website,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesse is of course the one who himself is

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<v Speaker 1>the curator of the content. He's the one that puts

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<v Speaker 1>up the articles. But then he says he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who put up this article, and he says, go email

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else to cover this article about conspiracy there is

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<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't have but he's the one that controls

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<v Speaker 1>the content. And so we're going to look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of their openly espionage based conspiracy articles, which we have

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<v Speaker 1>cited probably hundreds of times in the last three or

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<v Speaker 1>four years. And I think that, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the motivations of Worthow Christian are. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any personal disagreements with him, but it plays into

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<v Speaker 1>what we're getting into because there's so much opposition that

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<v Speaker 1>is there is a you know, amounting ecclesial now opposition

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<v Speaker 1>what we talk about, what we're prom because we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about real stuff, right, and uh, A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>can't handle this stuff. A lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they just they'd rather see me as the problem. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I the one that is involved in splitting the

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<v Speaker 1>church in Ukraine? Am I the one that's siding with

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<v Speaker 1>the ep Am? I the one that I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>literally like one of the few people out here promoting

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<v Speaker 1>the very thing that your site promotes. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this week it's all about counter signaling conspiracy theorist counter

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<v Speaker 1>theories are. Now, if I'm talking about something that's a theory,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. But the irony is that everybody on

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<v Speaker 1>the academic texts, and the literature around this topic. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who else gives you level headed analysis

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<v Speaker 1>like this. But notice that so the new article here

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<v Speaker 1>over here says against conspiracy theorists. And let me give

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<v Speaker 1>you a random four or five quote minds of verses

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<v Speaker 1>that have nothing to do with geopolitics, Because if you

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<v Speaker 1>all the places in scripture where there are conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know the Bible talks often about conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that they conspired to kill the king

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb and Joshua sent out the spies? I mean, does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody know any of this stuff? Or do we just

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and it is what it is. So and again,

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<v Speaker 1>The biblical view of conspiracies. Why can I not find it?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to type it exactly right here we go.

412
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<v Speaker 1>Our conspiracy is rational or conspiracy is biblical? Okay, So

413
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<v Speaker 1>you can go watch this video to see the many references.

414
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<v Speaker 1>I did a whole video on all the places in

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<v Speaker 1>divine revelation where we do have an affirmation of conspiracies.

416
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<v Speaker 1>And again, if you don't like the word conspiracies, if

417
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<v Speaker 1>you bought into the weaponizing of the term conspiracy theory

418
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<v Speaker 1>which comes out of the JFK drama to weaponize those

419
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<v Speaker 1>who would question the official narratives, then you can use

420
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the term espionage or do you think that espionage doesn't exist? Now,

421
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 1>if it does exist, then why am I bad to

422
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<v Speaker 1>person for talking about the very thing that these websites

423
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<v Speaker 1>themselves talk about? Costidw Ukraine hierarch Awards, former CIA head

424
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<v Speaker 1>for supporting the push for the Ukrainian National Church. So

425
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>here you have an emission from Orthochristian that there is

426
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<v Speaker 1>a collusion there with Dena Senko or whatever's name is

427
00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the defract goober meeting with Jack Divine, former acting director

428
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 1>of the CIA, in town to promote his new book.

429
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 1>And of course they're all best friends. They love each other.

430
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<v Speaker 1>Because this is a geopolitical created schism, and it's not

431
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>hard to figure that out, very simple. Here's another lengthy

432
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 1>article which I've shared for many I've shared many times

433
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<v Speaker 1>about the usage of schismatic groups by the US power structure.

434
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's another one Ukrainian usbods, you congratulate Ukrainians with the

435
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>creation of a new church over at Ortho Christian. So

436
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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to figure out, like when you post

437
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<v Speaker 1>your conspiracy theories and your espionage essays, which I've shared

438
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for many, many years, but now you're saying, no, you're

439
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>against conspiracy theories, so maybe you need to curate your

440
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<v Speaker 1>content a little better. And then we have Fordham University's

441
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Orthodox Center receives grant to study as Skittles, also over

442
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 1>at Ortho Christian. Now we've talked about this. Is this

443
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>not a conspiring through money and influence to change the

444
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>theological moral teaching of the churches. Of course it does.

445
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>And anyone acting like this doesn't exist is either a

446
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>completely naive boomer Docks person who's out to lunch, or

447
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they're malicious and they're lying to you. Because and the

448
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>younger people are, the more difficult it is to pull

449
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the stupid ruse over because the people that are like

450
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Boomer Docks, they don't realize that people thirty and under

451
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.039
<v Speaker 1>can figure this out within five minutes on the Internet. Okay,

452
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 1>not everybody's dumb, right, People thirty and under know how

453
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 1>to use search engines and know how to find foundations,

454
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>grants and funding, and it's not working. We have an

455
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 1>audience bigger than ancient faith radius that they can't figure

456
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>out that it's not just me or some like strange

457
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 1>people on the internet are gathering audiences. Yeah, there's some

458
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>dummies gathering audiences that are immature and stupid. But like

459
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 1>we're showing actual documents and information here, and the audience

460
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>who isn't one hundred IQ or below can figure this out.

461
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not hard to figure out. And you can. You

462
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>can talk all day long about how bad a person

463
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I am, and I'll admit, Okay, yeah I'm a bad person. Okay,

464
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>but does that change any of what we're talking about? Okay,

465
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 1>I know I've got moral flaws. Oh I'm the worst

466
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.079
<v Speaker 1>person I know. But in actuality, what it is is

467
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that you know, just like with Danic from a few

468
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>years ago, it's the same problem resurfacing. These people have

469
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.119
<v Speaker 1>other masters and they see anyone that's not like ancient

470
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 1>faith radio controlled as a threat because they can't control

471
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the things that we talk about, the things that we say.

472
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And so then now it's kind of shifted. Things are

473
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<v Speaker 1>going into a new kind of wild situation where we're

474
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<v Speaker 1>going to have not just sort of infiltration, but the

475
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>attacks are going to ramp up. But it's not going

476
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.559
<v Speaker 1>to work because these people are so out of touch

477
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't they're literally having conferences at OCA churches and

478
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 1>meetings on how to deal with and how to avoid me.

479
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care because like anybody that would be

480
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 1>swayed by that and wants to go into the domain

481
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<v Speaker 1>of ecumenism is not going to like and not going

482
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to be in our spheres anyway. And nobody wants to

483
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 1>convert to Orthodoxy to go back to Rome h. But

484
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you have certain accuminous minded bishops and people within the OCA,

485
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 1>for example, who do want to eventually go back to Rome.

486
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>And so it's part of a longer agenda. It's very

487
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>easy to figure this out where the OCA will go

488
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:27.400
<v Speaker 1>under the EP and the EP will go back to Rome.

489
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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't it's not a big deal in that

490
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to hurt or destroy what what we

491
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>do over here or for our from our side, because

492
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>any of the people that want to go do that

493
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>are are are it's sifting wheat from chaff. Let them go, right,

494
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean you got or you got OCA bishops calling

495
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Origin a saint, okay. So I mean these are not

496
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:52.199
<v Speaker 1>serious people. People people openly aligned with the Democratic Party

497
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 1>openly okay. And so they can talk about all day

498
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 1>along about how bad a person I am, and they

499
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>can use ben Cave and the Aora to try to

500
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.800
<v Speaker 1>get dirt and do whatever they want. But nobody's gonna

501
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>believe that because those are the same bishops, the same people,

502
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 1>the same clerics who shut your churches down, threatened you

503
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and told you had to get stabbes, took money most

504
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 1>likely for all that, and the same people before all

505
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:26.760
<v Speaker 1>that happened who called me evil. Right, So they just

506
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>revealed to everybody these people are joke. They're a joke.

507
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry that that's the reality of how the

508
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.519
<v Speaker 1>religious world is, but it is so today. What we're

509
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>looking at is why is it this way? Why is Rome?

510
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Why is orthodox liberal orthodoxy so called? Why is it

511
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>going in this direction? Well, you have to understand that

512
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<v Speaker 1>from the vantage point of global powers, there is a move,

513
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a push that's very easy to verify, that wants to

514
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>take these religions and these churches into a new realm

515
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of being soft power and being forms of NGOs and

516
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what that is, soft powers is

517
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 1>a form of geopolitical exercising of power that's not overt warfare.

518
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So you can exercise soft power through culture, through religion,

519
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>TV shows, economics, right, because it's not overt you know,

520
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>straight up kinetic warfare or whatever. Soft power. There's also

521
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 1>smart power using tech. This kind of stuff not conspiracy theories.

522
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 1>It's international relations, geopolitics one O one. Anybody who goes

523
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and studies these things that will learn about what soft

524
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>power is. You read the writings of any of the

525
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>geopolitical lead that we cover, they talk about it. But

526
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people, a lot of these hierarchs

527
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and these kinds of but they're either totally idiots and

528
00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about this, or they are essentially part

529
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<v Speaker 1>of a captured institution. I'm not saying the entire Orthodox

530
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>churches capture. I'm not saying any entire jurisdiction is capture,

531
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>but many of these jurisdictions are being captured. So that's

532
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.599
<v Speaker 1>just the facts, right. I Mean, you even had some

533
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 1>of these OCA clerics and bishops telling you to get

534
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>out of their churches if you don't believe in all

535
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of the stabby, all this stuff get out of the churches.

536
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>One of them even threatened to take people priests to

537
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:37.559
<v Speaker 1>court for murder charges if they didn't do the stabby

538
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>is the mass and all of that. So what does

539
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>all this mean? So it has to do with captured institutions,

540
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 1>and how do we get captured institutions? Well, let's look

541
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 1>at a few examples of other institutions which will then

542
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 1>show us the means, methods, and strategies of how this institution,

543
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 1>namely the church in general in general. And I saw

544
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm going to say that, you know, if

545
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 1>your OCA bishop or your Greek Orthodox bishop is liberal,

546
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 1>and you can verify that and check it out. And

547
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>do these people not even realize that people can verify

548
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>this very easily and check this out. Then move to

549
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 1>another one that is that is solid. Don't give OCA

550
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>people your money. If they're going to put out statements

551
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 1>and if they're going to put out warning labels about

552
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 1>me personally, if they're going to put out lists of

553
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 1>people that you shouldn't read or listen to, that's a

554
00:41:54.079 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>good thing. That's a good thing because now oh we know,

555
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>like thank you, Now we know to say goodbye to

556
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.599
<v Speaker 1>you and don't give these people your money. Anybody are

557
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 1>you if you're giving money to the people who shut

558
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 1>your churches down and told you to get out of

559
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the churches. Literally many of them did threaten other priests,

560
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.719
<v Speaker 1>would try to defract priests then don't go to those

561
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>people's churches, and they can. I'm not under any of

562
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>those people. So they can announce their avoidance lessons all

563
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>day long, but I don't care. It's not going to

564
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>do anything. So let's look an example of a captured institution,

565
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>namely certain media outlets from Ivory Hacker. I think Lord

566
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>V has had her on multiple times, and we all

567
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>know that the bs of this stuff. Anyway, it's like

568
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 1>there's I mean, these people are openly into what they're into,

569
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>openly promoting what they promote. Uh, I'm somethingbout in the

570
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>religious realm, right, And so we're not having to deal

571
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 1>with like secret KGB operatives, right, Maybe in the Cold

572
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 1>War you had to worry about a secret KGB operative

573
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like Cohler talks about in his text. Right,

574
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 1>in Cohler's text, you've got KGB operatives sneaking into the

575
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 1>church as spies. Getting dirt. That's not our situation because

576
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:38.559
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about people who openly talk about total degenerousy

577
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and things that are not orthodox at all to be pushed.

578
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, just because there's a public statement

579
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that there aren't people covertly going against the

580
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 1>public statement. People do not know what pr is. People

581
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>are so naive. Well they publicly said they don't believe

582
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>in it. Oh okay, well I guess yeah, like I

583
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 1>guess they don't, right, even though they are also aligning

584
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>themselves with the Democratic Party. And it's no different. It's

585
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 1>exact same scenario problem that we had with father Damik

586
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.599
<v Speaker 1>five years ago when he came after us, tried to

587
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get us ex communicated, all this kind of stuff, right,

588
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 1>No different, same stuff. It's just that now because the

589
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>audience has grown and because you might think, oh they

590
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>love you, because you know, they don't want people and

591
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't care about young men converting to their churches.

592
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<v Speaker 1>In fact, a prominent Oca priest that I met and

593
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 1>talked with years ago said, we don't want young men

594
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>coming to our parish. This is a nightmare. So if

595
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.679
<v Speaker 1>you're a young guy, as many of you are, this

596
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>is what they actually say about you in the OCA,

597
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.280
<v Speaker 1>we don't want young men coming to our parish. I'm

598
00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about specific parish in the East. I'm not talking

599
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>about all people. So your feeling's hurt. Yeah, I'm sure

600
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>there are people in the Chat. I'm sure you do

601
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 1>go to Father Dami's perish and that doesn't make you

602
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 1>a bad person. I'm not go to you make those

603
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 1>choices yourself. You can decide, because I'm not actually a

604
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>cult leader, you know, in the Discord all that kind

605
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, all we ever did was direct people to

606
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.079
<v Speaker 1>their spiritual fathers to make those decisions. But I also

607
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>always told you not to choose your church based on

608
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>anything other than whether you could discern whether you're clergy,

609
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 1>were solid or not. So if we have multiple clerics

610
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:49.199
<v Speaker 1>now publicly saying avoid Jay, avoid anybody in his circles,

611
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.039
<v Speaker 1>avoiding the priests to associate with him, blah blah blah

612
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. Uh, they don't get there's no reasoning giving

613
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.119
<v Speaker 1>other than that if you look at what they are,

614
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and ben Cabe say, it's because they're not approved in

615
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:07.159
<v Speaker 1>an Orthodox So actually I'm approved. So what do you

616
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<v Speaker 1>mean we have clerics come on all the time. So

617
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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean it's not approved. Well, what they

618
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<v Speaker 1>mean is it's not Ancient Faith Radio approved, which Ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Faith Radio has for many years promoted all kinds of

620
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<v Speaker 1>open lib stuff. And I can also tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>over the many years that we've dealt with these kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of issues, a lot of these people who didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>me or got mad at me at first, then went

624
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<v Speaker 1>and found out the hard way, and then later came

625
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<v Speaker 1>to me, Oh, yeah, you were right. These people are nuts,

626
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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry. It's so it's not I didn't make

627
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<v Speaker 1>it this way in the Orthodox Church or in the

628
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<v Speaker 1>Orthodox world. And it's not really about personalities. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>who's a problem for ideological pushes, that's it. So I'm

630
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<v Speaker 1>not under AFR. I don't have to be told by

631
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<v Speaker 1>any of those people what to say or what to do.

632
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<v Speaker 1>And you'll notice that what did they do. They pushed

633
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<v Speaker 1>out all of these people that weren't going along with

634
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<v Speaker 1>their stances for market shares, and they pushed out good

635
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<v Speaker 1>people like father John Whiteford and others. And they're so

636
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<v Speaker 1>boomer they don't even realize that, like they're just running

637
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<v Speaker 1>off their audience. And you know, all they can say,

638
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 1>is that we have an audience over here because I'm

639
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:29.599
<v Speaker 1>a bad person. Yeah, that's it. So it's just me

640
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<v Speaker 1>being a bad person. I know, I know, I know

641
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<v Speaker 1>I'm the worst person. But how is it if I'm

642
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<v Speaker 1>even if I'm the worst person? Ever, how is it

643
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<v Speaker 1>that we're so right about all this stuff? How have

644
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<v Speaker 1>we been so right? Why are we the only person

645
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<v Speaker 1>talking about institutional capture? Why are we the only person

646
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<v Speaker 1>talking about institutional subversion? Where are the priests talking about this?

647
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't priests discuss this? No, they're still pretending like it

648
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist. As a lot of these OCA priests commune

649
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>skiddles people openly, and commune people that are identifying as

650
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 1>different things. So there you go. What was I tell you? Yeah?

651
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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Yeah, they pushed out multiple people,

652
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>by the way, it's not just it's not just one

653
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<v Speaker 1>or two people. If you would hit like and share.

654
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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at a little bit of Ivory's interview with

655
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<v Speaker 1>this guy who was at CNN. His book is about

656
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<v Speaker 1>and they were both on timcasts recently, so talking about

657
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<v Speaker 1>this this strategy here. So let's listen a little bit

658
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<v Speaker 1>of this and I'll comment as we go through the

659
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>link to the video is right here. Ivory's video there.

660
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<v Speaker 1>So let's listen to some.

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<v Speaker 4>Of this For me, I guess by first blowing the

662
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<v Speaker 4>whistle on CNN and now we have your new book,

663
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 4>I got to show the audience this was CNN, how sex,

664
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<v Speaker 4>lies and spies undid the world's worst news network. Congrats

665
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<v Speaker 4>on this book.

666
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<v Speaker 5>Hey, much appreciated, Ivory. And that's all you and I

667
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 5>are doing. We're part of a cool little fraternity and

668
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 5>we're building it bigger and bigger as we go. Many

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<v Speaker 5>people have come to me saying they watched your story

670
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.239
<v Speaker 5>just as they watched mine. So thank you for what

671
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 5>you did as well. I mean, we met that day

672
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 5>and then we out of nowhere flew to Tim Poole's

673
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<v Speaker 5>house for his show that night. It was a wild

674
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 5>whirlwind ride for you as well. But yeah, here we are.

675
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<v Speaker 5>So let's get the party started right exactly.

676
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 4>Let's get into what you saw, how compromised CNN was

677
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 4>before a lot of CNN viewers noticed it was compromised.

678
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 4>The crazy thing is CNN's ratings have been going down

679
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:53.920
<v Speaker 4>their own viewers who used to like them. They're becoming

680
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 4>too obvious now, So dive into your story and what

681
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<v Speaker 4>you witnessed on the inside there.

682
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<v Speaker 5>Sure for the thirty thousand foot view for people that

683
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<v Speaker 5>maybe just joining us. It was three years ago. But

684
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<v Speaker 5>long story short, I came to see Ann summer of

685
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<v Speaker 5>twenty seventeen as a registered Democratic campaigned for Bernie. That's

686
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<v Speaker 5>kind of where I was at. And I got the

687
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<v Speaker 5>job at CNN really happy to go. You know where

688
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 5>real news is and you know, speak truth to power

689
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.760
<v Speaker 5>like you did at Fox and Everything. And you know,

690
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<v Speaker 5>I went there to take down Trump and you know,

691
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 5>keep him honest, so to speak. But even from the

692
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 5>get go, within a first few weeks, my first job

693
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<v Speaker 5>was boots on ground in Charlottesville after the riots happened

694
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<v Speaker 5>at the University of Virginia. And even though I was

695
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<v Speaker 5>not a fan of Trump and Republicans in general, I

696
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<v Speaker 5>saw the president the then presidents say they're good people

697
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<v Speaker 5>on both sides, but not the neo Nazis, white supremacists,

698
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<v Speaker 5>and they should be disavowed totally. Like I saw that

699
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<v Speaker 5>boots on ground. But what did I see when I

700
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<v Speaker 5>got back to the office. It's the whole good people

701
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<v Speaker 5>on both sides cut the fallacy that even Joe Biden

702
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<v Speaker 5>put on his coming out campaign ad is those missing

703
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<v Speaker 5>extra three seconds of very powerful context. And I just

704
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<v Speaker 5>started to notice things like that over and over, and

705
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.199
<v Speaker 5>it was a really hard thing for me to stomach

706
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:12.239
<v Speaker 5>and swallow that this great, venerable news network that I

707
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 5>grew up loving is not quite what it seemed to be.

708
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<v Speaker 5>And the more and more I dug and the deeper

709
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 5>and deeper I pulled on that thread, the more and

710
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 5>more I found and I literally had my own Matrix moment.

711
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.840
<v Speaker 5>It's overplayed in cliche, but it truly is. You know,

712
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 5>I had a choice to make to I want to

713
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 5>take the red pill and really see how deep the

714
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.159
<v Speaker 5>rabbit hole goes? Or do I want to stick my

715
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:33.920
<v Speaker 5>head back in the sand and just do business as usual. Now,

716
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 5>as we both know, you and I both are cut

717
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 5>from the same cloth, we couldn't sit back idly and

718
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<v Speaker 5>see our beloved you know, news networks themselves just go

719
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<v Speaker 5>on business as usual. So I reached out to James

720
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.800
<v Speaker 5>o'keef when I saw him at Seapack in twenty nineteen,

721
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 5>got to talk to him and after a few back

722
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 5>and forth, he's gave me some camera store each day,

723
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:57.960
<v Speaker 5>and within six to seven months of recording. We had

724
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<v Speaker 5>enough to go to air talking about Jeff Zucker himself

725
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<v Speaker 5>and all the his lieutenants talking about, hey, we don't

726
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 5>care what actual good news is going on in the world.

727
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 5>We want to stick with Trump or this will pay

728
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.639
<v Speaker 5>Trump and the Republicans the bad lights.

729
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And most people don't know that this is Operation Mockingberg, right,

730
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<v Speaker 1>Operation Mockingbird was this plan. I have to remember to

731
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<v Speaker 1>mute because you know how this works. Unmute And as

732
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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm super tired today. So you know, Mockingbird

733
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<v Speaker 1>was a way to control media via the intelligence apparatus,

734
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<v Speaker 1>and it was very successful for a long time, and

735
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 1>it was exposed by Woodward and Bernstein, who are themselves

736
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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, liberal journalists that ended up basically

737
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.639
<v Speaker 1>being just kind of other parts of the establishment. So

738
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<v Speaker 1>but it's an insight into the reality of mass media

739
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<v Speaker 1>being a controlled operation. And pretty much everybody can see

740
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>this now.

741
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<v Speaker 6>I think, right, fake news, unbelievable figs.

742
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's why it's fake news. Right, It's not just

743
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>people making up stuff, it's actual talking points that are

744
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 1>passed on a chain of command that come from a

745
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.079
<v Speaker 1>very powerful power structure, right, which is the Milner Fabian

746
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>power structure, and they bought up all of these entities,

747
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<v Speaker 1>all of these media things many many years ago, all

748
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:41.400
<v Speaker 1>these media outlets. And that's covered, as we said at

749
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<v Speaker 1>length in the raw two text that we've been lecturing through,

750
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<v Speaker 1>and there's plenty, there's plenty of other books things well

751
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 1>known the Mighty Worlitzer, the control of the media via

752
00:53:56.239 --> 00:54:00.159
<v Speaker 1>the intelligence agencies. And that's because people are recruiting to

753
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 1>these things out of universities, out of academia, and they

754
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.119
<v Speaker 1>do not have your best interest in heart. In fact,

755
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:09.800
<v Speaker 1>many of these people are particularly co opted and brought

756
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 1>into this because they're morally compromised people. So again we

757
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:17.400
<v Speaker 1>know Whitney Webb has just put out two volume text

758
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 1>right about blackmail and how blackmail is crucial to controlling

759
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>power structure. And that's exactly what we see again in

760
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.159
<v Speaker 1>both of these texts from people in the Cold War

761
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>who had opposite world I mean, well, I don't opposite,

762
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>but right wing versus left wing ideology, whether it's Cohler's

763
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 1>text on Spies the Vatican or Williams's text on Gladio

764
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>right both right wing and left wing during the Cold War,

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<v Speaker 1>admitting the high degree of compromise that we see both

766
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<v Speaker 1>in the Vatican and in for example, the Orthodox Church

767
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 1>in Russia during the Cold War. And we've done entire

768
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>extents the talks and interviews with multiple competent academics and

769
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<v Speaker 1>authorities on this, from Jim Jatras to Metropolitan Jonah. So

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<v Speaker 1>here is the interview we do with Metropolitan Jona, which

771
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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a classic. There is the Jatras interviews

772
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<v Speaker 1>that we've done America and Byzantium is the first one

773
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<v Speaker 1>we did, which I highly recommend going and watching that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then USA, Russia Orthodoxy and Ukraine Schism, so you

775
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.039
<v Speaker 1>can go watch that. And I mean, do you see

776
00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>me over here interviewing idiots and nobody's or do you

777
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:08.039
<v Speaker 1>see me interviewing COLONL. Douglas McGregor? All right, who am

778
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I over here interviewing? You tell me? Do I interview

779
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>nobody's idiots? Tards? Do we interview actually competent, smart, intelligent people?

780
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how would I be introduced? How would I

781
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>talk to these people and have these interviews? If I

782
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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of kuke crackpot? I mean, does somebody

783
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 1>even thought about this? How would we do? How would

784
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 1>we interview and do that entire three hour podcast with Coughlin,

785
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 1>who was the Pentagon's chief intelligence analyst consultant on Islam

786
00:56:55.199 --> 00:57:01.159
<v Speaker 1>for many years, doctor or Stephen Coughlin, How would we

787
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:14.920
<v Speaker 1>do that? Is it? Yeah? Exactly, it's because it's because

788
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm talking about. I'm not crazy, and

789
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that's why I talked to these people, and the other

790
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>people don't talk to these people. Right, some of the

791
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 1>people who call me names or whatever who come at

792
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>me attack me like they're not talking to these people.

793
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to high level global experts on stuff. Okay,

794
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like who are these people talking to nobody?

795
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.760
<v Speaker 5>You know Fox News? Is this that they're damaging to

796
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 5>the American psyche? So all these things I got to

797
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<v Speaker 5>hear not from just low level people, but from the

798
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 5>people at the top. And then we had enough to

799
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.719
<v Speaker 5>go to air, and we did in October of twenty nineteen,

800
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:50.519
<v Speaker 5>you know, starting a firestorm, and you know I eventually

801
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.280
<v Speaker 5>got fired actually that day, and then you know, we

802
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:55.480
<v Speaker 5>came down to move to Florida to escape it. And

803
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.239
<v Speaker 5>then fast forward three years and now CNN is kind

804
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:02.280
<v Speaker 5>of sad in a death spiral. They're just asking for air.

805
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.719
<v Speaker 5>They're even having to hire Bill Maher to come on

806
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 5>and do like a.

807
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<v Speaker 4>Jeff Zucker were you did you ever meet Chris?

808
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna skip a head past. I mean, I want

809
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 1>to get to the interesting part. I don't really care

810
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:14.519
<v Speaker 1>about his perfection.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically the Hunter Biden corruption with Joe Biden. How can

812
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:23.960
<v Speaker 4>we say that Trump is the bad guy when Joe

813
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 4>Biden has this all this corruption in his background. He's

814
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 4>literally saying that off air, but then on air it's

815
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:32.679
<v Speaker 4>a totally different story.

816
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Ah.

817
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 4>Why was the company doing that because they apparently agree

818
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<v Speaker 4>with people on the right.

819
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<v Speaker 1>Why is the pillows square?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad you asked this.

821
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<v Speaker 8>Is this is Mike Lindella. I'm telling you not to

822
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<v Speaker 8>buy these pillows. These pillows are crazy. Go to my

823
00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 8>giez a dream sheet. It's a pillow shaped like a pyramid.

824
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 8>To rule right off, you'll be wake fresh, ready to

825
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:04.039
<v Speaker 8>attack the day.

826
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Kart ba dum and to throw in a little Mike

827
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Lindell and it's.

828
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 5>A wild ride. Ivory and I do want to kind

829
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.119
<v Speaker 5>of give credit where it's due. I believe the one

830
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:16.039
<v Speaker 5>you're talking about is the second or third CNN insider

831
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:19.000
<v Speaker 5>after me. That's their story. But it's a good problem

832
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.280
<v Speaker 5>to have where so many people are coming forward now

833
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.440
<v Speaker 5>from within CNN and other companies. But yes, this is

834
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:26.239
<v Speaker 5>the thing. These are the things that people say in

835
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 5>private but not in public. And that's what Project Veritas

836
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.960
<v Speaker 5>is very good at, is getting people to on camera

837
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.039
<v Speaker 5>seeing the quiet parts out loud. But yeah, it's it's

838
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:37.400
<v Speaker 5>it's insane. I mean, obviously I can only speculate. I

839
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.280
<v Speaker 5>didn't get all of it off with that on tape,

840
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 5>but I mean, if you're if you're an on air

841
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:45.199
<v Speaker 5>personality and you're getting a high six to low seven

842
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.199
<v Speaker 5>figure income, you know you pretty much when they say jump,

843
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 5>you say how high? And you know that's my only speculations.

844
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.559
<v Speaker 5>They just didn't want to lose that fat paycheck living

845
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.039
<v Speaker 5>in DC or New York City.

846
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Wow. Well, yeah, they're jumping as high as the compromise

847
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.519
<v Speaker 4>company wants them to. And it's actually they're committing their

848
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 4>own suicide, you know, by by doing this.

849
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 5>It appears yep, And that's the thing.

850
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I was just going to add that they even tried

851
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:18.719
<v Speaker 4>CNN Plus because Fox Nation was doing so well. Fox

852
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 4>Nation is the online streaming version of Fox News. To

853
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 4>CNN said.

854
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 9>Let's try it to CNN Plus doesn't even last a month.

855
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.679
<v Speaker 9>There's already so much left wing propaganda out there. Why

856
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 9>do people want to pay for it with CNN Plus?

857
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 5>Well, right, especially when it's going to be I think

858
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 5>they open it up at what five or six bucks

859
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.880
<v Speaker 5>a month, and then when they were only getting five

860
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:43.039
<v Speaker 5>to ten thousand subscribers, they cut in half, and I mean.

861
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Soo jiant failer. We know that. Let's talk about the intelligence.

862
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 5>They're currently employed now at CNN or have in the past,

863
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.440
<v Speaker 5>and the craziest part ivory and it's this is all

864
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 5>most of it is public knowledge that these people would

865
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:01.360
<v Speaker 5>literally put on their LinkedIn former intelligence officer at x Y.

866
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 1>There you go, a military at.

867
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:07.679
<v Speaker 5>This particular branch, like these people would literally put it

868
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:15.480
<v Speaker 5>on their LinkedIn public public profile like they from January

869
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:18.320
<v Speaker 5>to December and then from the next January at CNN.

870
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So these are just bureaucrats that just censor everything and

871
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:27.000
<v Speaker 1>lie to enforce the narrative and the whole system is fake.

872
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:32.280
<v Speaker 1>There you go, it's all fake and Gray vindicated. So

873
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 1>here you go two former mainstream media people here telling

874
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you it's fake and gray And what did all the

875
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Twitter files show us. It's all fake and gray. All

876
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.559
<v Speaker 1>the Twitter for the last several years the whole time

877
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 1>was an intelligence censored It was basically a Twitter was

878
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:58.360
<v Speaker 1>basically an online version of Operation Mockingbird. That's it, Okay, yeah,

879
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly everything that I knew talked about long time ago.

880
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.880
<v Speaker 1>We talked about this on Boiler Room like seven years ago.

881
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 1>So we were right vindicated on telling you this stuff.

882
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Seven years ago. We told you they would eat, that

883
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you'd be eating bugs, and that you would be told

884
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 1>that cannibalism is good. Here we are seven years We

885
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.440
<v Speaker 1>told you about the cannibalism seven years ago. Jamie me

886
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 1>eating bugs with Tristan five, six years ago, four or

887
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:30.360
<v Speaker 1>five years ago. Here we are eat the bugs. We're

888
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:36.079
<v Speaker 1>eating the bugs. We're in the most angliar world. So

889
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:41.320
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen crisis, let's create the most ang word. But

890
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:46.400
<v Speaker 1>remember none of that even exists. Father Damik says, there's

891
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:51.320
<v Speaker 1>no such thing as foundations that exists to influence religions

892
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:56.360
<v Speaker 1>or orthodoxy. There's no such thing as foundations that exist

893
01:02:56.440 --> 01:03:01.079
<v Speaker 1>to influence or change orthodoxy. Now of the week, we'll

894
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:07.280
<v Speaker 1>be doing another stream with Rachel on institutional capture in

895
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:11.360
<v Speaker 1>terms of her research and if you don't know, Rachel

896
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:17.199
<v Speaker 1>has a sub stack where she covered the subversion of

897
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Christianity along the exact same lines of what we're talking about, right,

898
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be very relevant to what we

899
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:38.719
<v Speaker 1>were talking about. Yeah, here it is, no, thank you,

900
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:43.639
<v Speaker 1>let's have the Brittany, Brittany, Brittany here you go. So

901
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 1>go read this if you want to, gets into a

902
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:55.559
<v Speaker 1>lot more detail, and it's all sourced, all one demonstrable,

903
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:03.360
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with conspiracy theories. So no Ortho Christian,

904
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 1>no Jesse Dominic. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's facts.

905
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 1>And let's read this a little bit too, because this

906
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is relevant. The patriarpar following and gave an interview. Let's

907
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:20.000
<v Speaker 1>see when did this come out? This was from I

908
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.119
<v Speaker 1>don't see a date. Let's just read it recent or

909
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:29.719
<v Speaker 1>was that the date? No, anyway, it's an article article

910
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.679
<v Speaker 1>within the last year or two. Readers are already tired

911
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:37.159
<v Speaker 1>of the abundant publications about Bartholomew regarding his ambiguous narrative

912
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.760
<v Speaker 1>as to what's happening in the church, joint photos with

913
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Francis all the ecumenist, blah blah blah, Bartholomew, so this

914
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 1>article was twenty twenty one, gave another interview where he

915
01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:53.960
<v Speaker 1>confirmed his activities in their future aimed at a union

916
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 1>with Rome.

917
01:04:58.000 --> 01:04:59.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a conspiracy theory.

918
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, our following me only says it openly. It's

919
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:07.559
<v Speaker 1>a total conspiracy theory. And let's remember too that here

920
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you guys. Do I give you as Rachel's article.

921
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Remember I'm tired so much my mind as much as

922
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Rachel's article. So remember, none of this exists according to

923
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the normy docs. It doesn't exist. Not there. So we'll

924
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:31.360
<v Speaker 1>be covering that at the end of the week with

925
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Rachel the big Foundation money. But let's read the rest

926
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of this before it proceeds at analyzing this interview. Bartholomew

927
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:49.599
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, thirty years of patriarch. His message confirmed

928
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 1>his loyalty to the liberal agenda of joining with the Vatican.

929
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 1>In fact preamble. The interview was from a website prepared

930
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:03.599
<v Speaker 1>by a European Protestant publication, and the interview Bartholomew answers

931
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 1>questions about unification with Rome, his actions in the Ukraine.

932
01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. Of course, that's what it's about and

933
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is like, there's a bunch of things

934
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:22.079
<v Speaker 1>about this. It's not new, right. The mission of the Church,

935
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:26.039
<v Speaker 1>according to Bartholomew is number one, ecumenism, number two protection

936
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.079
<v Speaker 1>of the world and nature. Now, I'm pretty sure that

937
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 1>ecumenism and protecting nature are not the one and two

938
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.519
<v Speaker 1>number one and two messages of Orthodoxy. Pretty sure that

939
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:42.719
<v Speaker 1>salvation of souls, worship of God, salvation of souls aren't

940
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:44.800
<v Speaker 1>those of the number one and number two things, I

941
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:49.480
<v Speaker 1>would think. And then the stability of and unity of

942
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 1>world Orthodoxy. And why is that Well, because he is,

943
01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:58.559
<v Speaker 1>of course a central figure in the World Council Churches,

944
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 1>and the World Council Churches was an open Fabian socialist,

945
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.719
<v Speaker 1>create an institution on record, not a conspiracy theory set

946
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:10.239
<v Speaker 1>up by these people, and particularly by a figure from

947
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:16.800
<v Speaker 1>British intelligence. Venhoft remember that guy because it sounds like

948
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:22.440
<v Speaker 1>vim Hoff, But it's Vissert Hoofed who was involved in

949
01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:28.239
<v Speaker 1>getting the World Council Churches set up and bringing in

950
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the Orthodox into the World Council Churches. There you can

951
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:39.920
<v Speaker 1>see in Ratiu's analysis right there, Vissart hoofed them, Vissard

952
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:52.360
<v Speaker 1>hoofed who was British Intelligence. What was the plans of

953
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the World Council Churches, It says the first Secretary General

954
01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:00.719
<v Speaker 1>was them Vissert Hoofed who belonged to the Social Gospel

955
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:05.360
<v Speaker 1>movement which preach the formist Christian socialism. It was promoted

956
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.760
<v Speaker 1>by the Anglo American Fabian Group. In addition, Visit Hoof

957
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 1>maintained close links to international money power via the MI

958
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:18.199
<v Speaker 1>six and OSS operating out of Geneva in the nineteen forties,

959
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:21.600
<v Speaker 1>as well as connections to the KGB. Ostensibly he was

960
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:23.960
<v Speaker 1>aiming to promote the unity of faith and peace through

961
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.720
<v Speaker 1>acumunism amongst Christian churches, but in reality the World Council

962
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Churches aim to create a new society along socialist lines

963
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Fabian socialists not Marxists, and they considered this is wild

964
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Rhodesia's Robert Mugabe as a ideal leader for a Christian society,

965
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I kid you not. The WCC is headquartered in the

966
01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Ecumenical Center in Geneva, in the vicinity of various United

967
01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Nations outfits, and has declared itself committed to the principles

968
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:01.119
<v Speaker 1>of purpose of the United Nations. Two entities have been

969
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:04.520
<v Speaker 1>officially engaged in strong and close collaboration. According to the

970
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:09.479
<v Speaker 1>United Nations Acumenists World website Ecclesia dot cod at UK,

971
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the Milner Fabian dominated power structure was instrumental in helping

972
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to set this up, as well as bringing in Anglican, Protestant,

973
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Orthodox and Roman Catholic involvement in the WCC. Now there's

974
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.520
<v Speaker 1>different levels of involvement. So just because a person attends

975
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:35.279
<v Speaker 1>a paper presentation, or just because a person goes and

976
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, discusses with groups, that's not acumenism, but the

977
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:44.600
<v Speaker 1>idea of it. You're saying that there is no church

978
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and we're all in the process of discovering the church,

979
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:52.680
<v Speaker 1>which is the presupposition of global ecumenist movements. Then that

980
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is heterodox in terms of ecclesiology. Now, where does the

981
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 1>cumunist movement come from? This is really important of this

982
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:06.000
<v Speaker 1>because this is not even hard to find. It's actually

983
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:15.119
<v Speaker 1>openly in one of these classics, the Authorized Biography of

984
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the Rockefellers from Collier and Horowitz. This is a famous

985
01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:22.079
<v Speaker 1>text that you've seen me reference many many times, many

986
01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:29.560
<v Speaker 1>many countless pulling this out. So does any of this

987
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:31.560
<v Speaker 1>look like a conspiracy text? Does this look like a

988
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy text to you. Let's look at this. This is

989
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a gigantic, gigantor tone official biography. You understand that that's

990
01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:55.000
<v Speaker 1>not a conspiracy text. You know the difference between those

991
01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:03.680
<v Speaker 1>two nineteen seventy six Collier and Horowitz. Okay, And what

992
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:08.800
<v Speaker 1>does the official from the archives, the official history of

993
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the Rockefeller family tell us about ecumenism. Well, I'd be

994
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:19.600
<v Speaker 1>happy to tell you about it. It's one of the

995
01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:25.720
<v Speaker 1>best chapters in the book. So this is over on

996
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.079
<v Speaker 1>page Let's see if we can get this.

997
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:30.159
<v Speaker 2>This is a.

998
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Gigantorpe book, so let's see if we can make it

999
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 1>fit over here where you can see it. I'm spilling

1000
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 1>chalks everywhere. So here's the thing. I can't see it

1001
01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:42.520
<v Speaker 1>when we do this, I can't see what's over here,

1002
01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:49.079
<v Speaker 1>all right. So this is the chapter on acumenism, in

1003
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the founding of ecumenism, in the funding of ecumenism via

1004
01:11:53.720 --> 01:12:01.199
<v Speaker 1>this family's vast wealth. And this is Juniorefeller had inherited

1005
01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:05.319
<v Speaker 1>the Eliza Rockefeller's tendency to consolidate and trim wastefulness. The

1006
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:08.399
<v Speaker 1>alder the where he was involved in his Baptist church,

1007
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:10.159
<v Speaker 1>which he decided that it was time to get rid

1008
01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of the fundamentalist beliefs and turn it into something like

1009
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a social gospel social gospel. The formation of the Federal

1010
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Council of Churches in nineteen eight had given the ecaumenical

1011
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:38.920
<v Speaker 1>movement there you got right there, preliminary organized form. And

1012
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:41.800
<v Speaker 1>what was the goal of the Rockefeller Ecumenist movement, which

1013
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.840
<v Speaker 1>is the basis for the World Council Churches National Council Churches,

1014
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the eventual erection of a one world religion that would

1015
01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:54.760
<v Speaker 1>be controlled by this family which dominates the American power

1016
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:58.840
<v Speaker 1>structure and landscape. So he could basically turn the new

1017
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:07.359
<v Speaker 1>religion into an element of Americanist soft power social gospel

1018
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:12.119
<v Speaker 1>right here, s yeh? Can you read? Is this a

1019
01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:12.960
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy text?

1020
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:13.159
<v Speaker 4>No?

1021
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Do we have a lot of slow boys in the

1022
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:17.840
<v Speaker 1>audience that to spell this out for you step by step,

1023
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that'll walk you through this. People can't figure this out.

1024
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Seventy five million dollars was given via the Council Foreign

1025
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Relations and via the Rockefellers to help foster this burgeoning

1026
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Acumenist movement in the nineteen thirties. In nineteen thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>this money was given they helped. They chose modernist professors, seminarians,

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<v Speaker 1>and teachers such as Reverends Buttrick Gates, and from the

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<v Speaker 1>Charitable Trust John Mott and Ivy Lee. All these are

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<v Speaker 1>partisans of a modernist church endorsing all progressive as trends.

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<v Speaker 1>The conflicts had broken out into a storm at the

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<v Speaker 1>head of one of these circles being the new Reverend

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Emerson Fosdick, brother of Raymond and pastor of the

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<v Speaker 1>old Presbyterian Church. Fosick had begun as a conciliator against fundamentalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Fosbick and was then chosen by Junior Rockefeller to beat

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<v Speaker 1>their sort of frontispiece for Rockefeller Cumenism. Junior gave twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollars. Check this out. Junior Rockefeller gives twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollars for the creation of the Riverside Cathedral,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put Fosdick in as the minister of their

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<v Speaker 1>own created Protestant church. And this confrontation was continued at

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<v Speaker 1>the Protestant General Since the fundamentalist Protestants at this time

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<v Speaker 1>are having a problem with this and rejecting it. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back over here. And so they note that

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<v Speaker 1>Fosdick was always attacked and continued to be attacked on

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<v Speaker 1>the question of modernism. However, Junior Rockefeller always continued to

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<v Speaker 1>support him. And then it says in the footnote, the

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<v Speaker 1>confrontation continued in the Protestant General Assembly, which is some

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<v Speaker 1>Protestant meeting trying to defend against liberalism. The fundamentalists were

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<v Speaker 1>led by William Jennings Bryan, and they tried to excommunicate Fosdick,

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<v Speaker 1>charging that he was guilty of heresy casting doubt on

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<v Speaker 1>the virgin birth. So Fosdick denied the virgin birth right.

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<v Speaker 1>Fosdick was aided in his parliamentary victory over William Jennings

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<v Speaker 1>Bryan by a young attorney who became a leading layman

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<v Speaker 1>in the church, and he felt strongly about denying the

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<v Speaker 1>virgin birth. Who was this leading layman. Why it was

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<v Speaker 1>none other than John Foster Dulles. You may have heard

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<v Speaker 1>of these figures because Alan Dulles he's the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA. So you have these Rockefeller attache underlings minions.

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<v Speaker 1>One hand, they're involved in the very beginning and founding

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<v Speaker 1>a creation of the CIAOSS and then the CIA, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have Dullest family involved in the religious circles.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, there's a whole other one that

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a cardinal, Avery Dulles, same family. In nineteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand people gathered for the opening service at the

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<v Speaker 1>giant Gothic Riverside Cathedral. You gotta see this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best parts for her. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>The cathedral featured a syncretous cacophony of new religious figures

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<v Speaker 1>gathered under one syncretous roof. Who were the saints in

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<v Speaker 1>this new modernist Rockefeller created cathedral? Why none other than Confucius, Moses, Hegel, Dante, Mohammed,

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<v Speaker 1>Darwin and Jesus. The Rockefellers then created Union Theological Seminary.

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<v Speaker 1>Junior helped with that endowment by giving a one million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar gift, or they bought it off. If they created

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<v Speaker 1>or bought it, I think they pretty much created through

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<v Speaker 1>the Laura Spelman Rockefler Memorial Fund. They promoted through Union

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<v Speaker 1>Seminary reinholdniber all of the fame as Protestant liberals, especially

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<v Speaker 1>rein holdneber So. In other words, you understand that Protestant

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<v Speaker 1>liberalism in the twentieth century is a creation of these people.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not about when you get this book out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way, It's not about that. It's not about

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<v Speaker 1>we're not doing weaponizing anthropology. Right now. We will look

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<v Speaker 1>at a chapter in that book. I think it don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about religion in there. But by the time of

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<v Speaker 1>his death, Junior had contributed a total of seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars too. This is in the thirties, dude, thirties

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<v Speaker 1>and forties money to ecumenism, and this and the promotion

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<v Speaker 1>of liberal Protestantism to a degree, Junior's go this is

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<v Speaker 1>a footnote. See this right here, seventy five million of

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<v Speaker 1>Junior Rockefeller to create essentially the modern ecumenist movement. And

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<v Speaker 1>then what do we have here? To some degree, this

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01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:55.000
<v Speaker 1>dream of a united streamline church came true. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty the Federal Council Churches merged with twelve Protestant liberal agencies,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Council Triche, which was a result Rockefeller provided

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<v Speaker 1>the initial capital to fund the study of organizational structures

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<v Speaker 1>for a new created church, and thus the Riverside Church

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01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:16.359
<v Speaker 1>as its headquarters. And then they built a fifteen story

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<v Speaker 1>interchurch center that became the essence of the ecumenist movement.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, one percent created by these people in

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<v Speaker 1>tandem with their Eastern Seaboard elite families, in tandem with

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<v Speaker 1>the British Royal Society elite. One percent basic academic geopolitical history.

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<v Speaker 1>So is it a conspiracy, Well, it's a conspiracy in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that these people are evil and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to utilize religion and Christianity for their own purposes, and

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<v Speaker 1>they conspire to do it. But it's not a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that it's hidden. It's out in the open.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you understand these aren't conspiracy texts. Now, a

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<v Speaker 1>little interlude here. I want to thank our friends that

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<v Speaker 1>gave us and they wrote a really nice note at

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<v Speaker 1>the event. We got an icon of Saint Joseph the hesycast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that. And then we got a nice

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<v Speaker 1>little note for thanking us for helping to convert them

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<v Speaker 1>to Orthodoxy. So I appreciate that. I won't h I

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<v Speaker 1>think they did. They want I'll give a first name

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<v Speaker 1>shout out right, so it's Justin and Abby. I think Gabby.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin and Gabby shout out to you guys. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that cool icon, and thank you guys for the

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<v Speaker 1>super chest. Remember to support vide superchet function, which is

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<v Speaker 1>stream labs. You can use the stream labs link right

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<v Speaker 1>there to send your super chat. I'll read those here

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. That does help keep us going. Supports

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<v Speaker 1>the Q and A, we will do a season two

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<v Speaker 1>right so the next season where you want. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want the tutoring option that begins March ninth, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's March eighth or ninth, somewhere in there, whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday is, whether that's I don't know, let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>day that is March ninth. So if you want the

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<v Speaker 1>tutoring option that starts March ninth. If you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>the tutoring option, then just get the straight up full

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<v Speaker 1>do it yourself course of history of Western philosophy, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get that here at the Agora Autonomy Marketplace. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Richard's Agora Autonomy Marketplace. Shout out to Richard Grove,

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<v Speaker 1>our good buddy over at Grand theftworldtragian Hoope dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and Autonomy Reason university, So get your own personal private

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<v Speaker 1>education outside of the establishment brainwashing system via what Richard

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<v Speaker 1>is building over at Tragyanhope dot com. Thank you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for those super chats. You get the idea, so the

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<v Speaker 1>background to what we're seeing with Bartholomew and the idea

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<v Speaker 1>for the push for a world religion together with all

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<v Speaker 1>the other Protestant sex and now together with Kris Loom

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<v Speaker 1>and the Abu Dhabi Faith Center which just opened. I

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<v Speaker 1>think right this just opened. Somebody was saying on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>can we confirm that the Abrahamic Faith House in United

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<v Speaker 1>Arab Emirates that comes out of old Papa Frank's document

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<v Speaker 1>on a Human Fraternity that he signed together with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Emams. The shared values that we all have,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we don't have shared values because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in natural theology Vatican two and no stratate. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's quite a few Ecumenists and want to be Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Catholics and they do believe that we all worship the

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<v Speaker 1>same God because of a word concept fallacy known as

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<v Speaker 1>the word Father or the word God or monotheism, as

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<v Speaker 1>if those things mean the same thing, as if monarchical

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01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Trinitarianism is the same thing as unitarianism. It's not, but

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you know it was? Well, Francis and the Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Emam have decided that it is, and it's good enough

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<v Speaker 1>now that we can build an entire faith center, which

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<v Speaker 1>has it just opened Abu Dhabi, the Abramic Faith Center.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if this doesn't convince you, yeah, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just would open a day or two

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<v Speaker 1>ago March first, so not open yet almost open. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's three stupid ass fake ass cathedrals or whatever these are.

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<v Speaker 1>The look like looks like a damn office depot, like

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<v Speaker 1>a warehouse, looks like a Communists What the heck? What

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<v Speaker 1>is that? Illuminate confirm right opens March first. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>multi faith place of worship. How can you have a

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<v Speaker 1>multi faith place of worship together with arians and haters

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<v Speaker 1>of Christ? Right, John says, anyone who denies the incarnations

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<v Speaker 1>of the spirit of Antichrist? Okay, well, then that means

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<v Speaker 1>Islam is of the spirit of Antichrist. So how are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to have a common faith center together with

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01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Arius and Astorias and Eunomius and Muhammad and Mimonoides. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe the World Council of Church's new religion

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<v Speaker 1>of the Rockefellers, and then yeah, we're all worshiping the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing because it's the same word God. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>if I believe in one God and it's Satan or Lucifer,

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<v Speaker 1>or are we still worshiping the same God because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same it's a monotheism. This is the stupidity of

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<v Speaker 1>these people. They literally argue that by way I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at a philosophy conference, a conference a few

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<v Speaker 1>days ago which I will not be going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the gigantic, four hundred pound boomer screaming in my face

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<v Speaker 1>that our goal is to teach skeptics, but by denying

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<v Speaker 1>natural theology, it's to create human skeptics. Yeah. Sure, so

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<v Speaker 1>my goal is to create people to take atheist skeptics,

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<v Speaker 1>convert them to Orthodoxy, to make them atheo skeptics. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it makes a lot of sense. I'm not joking

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<v Speaker 1>a foreigner pound screaming boomer academic in my face. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I deny natural theology, people are losing it, dude. People

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01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>are just nuts. And you know that's why we're We're

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna tighten up our circles who we interact with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was four hunderd pounds foreigner pound boomer academics, screaming

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<v Speaker 1>in my face about natural theology, no arguments, just screaming

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<v Speaker 1>those gonna fight me. I'm not joking. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>left because we're not dealing with rational people anymore. We're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with people are just losing their mind. I have

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<v Speaker 1>these people are on freaking SSR eyes and half of

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<v Speaker 1>them are losing their mind. So we've got to tighten

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<v Speaker 1>up who we talk to and who we interact with

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<v Speaker 1>because people are getting crazy. Who are going nuts? So,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of subversives out there too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So people pretend to be nice and friendly and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just completely subversive, demonic individuals. So let's look at next

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<v Speaker 1>clip because now you see that he admitted that we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with institutional capture. Sook at institutional capture or influence

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<v Speaker 1>in geo soft power through this interview, which is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because I just got this guy's book. I have not

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<v Speaker 1>read it yet. We are. It's not very long, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it's his PhD thesis, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>on Aaron into the Wilderness. The religion the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA, and we got some good clips that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>play from this interview just a little bit to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a taste of what we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 10>Here, religion and law and so in the US. I've

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<v Speaker 10>always been interested in sorts of First Amendment issues, how

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<v Speaker 10>that plays out in the public square, But my original

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<v Speaker 10>idea for the project was actually something bit different. I

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<v Speaker 10>was interested in how antique Catholicism in the United States

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<v Speaker 10>played out with respect to national security concerns in the

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<v Speaker 10>Cold War. And as I was doing some early, sort

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<v Speaker 10>of preliminary poking around in various archives for that project,

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<v Speaker 10>I stumbled into the story of Tom Dooley, which is

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<v Speaker 10>basically just part of the story of the CIA's efforts

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<v Speaker 10>as part of the Vietnam War to get Americans to

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<v Speaker 10>think about Catholicism differently. And I just I'd never encountered this,

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<v Speaker 10>I'd never heard of this, and so I kind of

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<v Speaker 10>hold on that thread and the rest of the project

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01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:26.439
<v Speaker 10>came together bit by bit, and so for me, I

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<v Speaker 10>think it wasn't something that I had thought about before,

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<v Speaker 10>But once I got into the archives and started tracking

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<v Speaker 10>down some names, it made sense to me that for

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<v Speaker 10>many of the same reasons I found studying religion interesting

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01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:44.840
<v Speaker 10>that intelligence officers in various decades would have found it

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<v Speaker 10>useful as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I think you know one of the things else.

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<v Speaker 1>So news alert shocker, government and intelligence agencies find religion

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<v Speaker 1>to be useful. I find it to be interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>relevant to what they do.

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<v Speaker 7>As I was reading through the book, and particularly in

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<v Speaker 7>the early days, is how much this is? This is

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<v Speaker 7>a book definitely about the CIA and religion, but like

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<v Speaker 7>how much this is also a book about religious studies

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01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:26.840
<v Speaker 7>and how religious studies shapes things more than maybe they expected, right,

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01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:29.439
<v Speaker 7>so so so much of how the CIA is the

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<v Speaker 7>always says into the CIA is going to approach religion

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<v Speaker 7>is based on what you know, academics and a popular

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<v Speaker 7>conscious thought about religion at the time in the forties

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<v Speaker 7>and the fifties. How they had and this this newfound

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01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:45.479
<v Speaker 7>interest in world religions. So I guess talked to us

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<v Speaker 7>a bit about how.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened and to help give context for that. The reason

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01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they had an interest in world religions is precisely for

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been telling you the last hour. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>part of what part of weaponizing anthropology is everyone tracking

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<v Speaker 1>are we understanding.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, the way to see a way it was

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<v Speaker 7>a suppose to how that is not like just invented

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<v Speaker 7>in a vacuum, but was actually the outworking of, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>the kind of the way that field was at the time.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, Yeah, I've always been interested in the history of

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01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:36.399
<v Speaker 10>the academic study of religion. I I I. Originally that

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<v Speaker 10>was another one of my ideas for the project early on,

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<v Speaker 10>was to sort of write up that history in North America.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think, you know, the main problem with that

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<v Speaker 10>is that there's like seventeen people who might be interested

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01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:48.600
<v Speaker 10>in reading such a thing, right, Like, it's pretty niche.

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<v Speaker 10>And so one of the things I was really excited

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<v Speaker 10>about with this project is that it does let me

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<v Speaker 10>work in, as you noted, some of the other developments

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01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:58.560
<v Speaker 10>happening in the broader study of religion. So one of

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<v Speaker 10>the things that immediately jumped out to me was some

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01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:06.279
<v Speaker 10>of the traces you can find in some of the

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<v Speaker 10>actual kind of academic work at the time. So Hustin

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<v Speaker 10>Smith's Religions of Man I mentioned this at one point

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<v Speaker 10>in the book, but it's the first or second edition.

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<v Speaker 10>In the preface of that book, he talks about one

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<v Speaker 10>of the reasons for doing compared to religious studies is

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01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:23.680
<v Speaker 10>that the US military is going to need to know

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01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:25.960
<v Speaker 10>this stuff to like rule people or work with them

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01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 10>or whatever. Right, and so it's a very kind of

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<v Speaker 10>applied religious studies understood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the anthropology that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 10>And this was all part of a much larger piece

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01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:41.159
<v Speaker 10>of how folks in the US and other places around

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01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:44.680
<v Speaker 10>the world too, we're thinking about religion. And so the

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<v Speaker 10>big one that jumps out to me is that both

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<v Speaker 10>in the CIA as well as its predecessor of the OSS,

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<v Speaker 10>and in a lot of universities at the time, religion

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<v Speaker 10>was kind of seen as this universal translator. I call

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01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:01.800
<v Speaker 10>it a Rosetta stone in the book because one of

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<v Speaker 10>the things that one of the assumptions that people had

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<v Speaker 10>at this time was that if you could understand one

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<v Speaker 10>particular religious tradition, you could understand others. And it's of

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<v Speaker 10>course the very like essentialist understanding of religion, or if

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<v Speaker 10>you can get to the core, you could figure it out,

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01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:18.800
<v Speaker 10>and you could then use that to scaffold and understanding

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<v Speaker 10>of other religious systems. And of course, for an intelligence agency,

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<v Speaker 10>really for any sort of government agency, the appeal here

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<v Speaker 10>was that, you know, you wouldn't have to sort of

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<v Speaker 10>have a study of each religion necessarily, You wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 10>to have specialists in every area. If you can crack

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01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:39.119
<v Speaker 10>you know, Roman Catholicism, you can figure out Buddhism or something,

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01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:42.319
<v Speaker 10>which sounds really right. I mean, it sounds ridiculous. But

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<v Speaker 10>this is also some of the stuff we we found

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<v Speaker 10>in the archives, and so along with this that basically

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01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:51.760
<v Speaker 10>religion could be a universal translator that right, it could

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<v Speaker 10>get past ideas or differences of language.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok, let's let's give it as this is. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we know that the other interested in religion.

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<v Speaker 11>It es so yeah, talk us a bit about that,

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<v Speaker 11>about how that kind of I guess as the outplay

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<v Speaker 11>of this, because it's interesting you talk about how like

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<v Speaker 11>on the other end of things, it was the kind

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<v Speaker 11>of the early victories in World War two that was like,

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<v Speaker 11>see it works, and then that kind of held and

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<v Speaker 11>maybe would jump into some of the other bits in between.

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<v Speaker 7>But I mentioned in kind of how that yes, I

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<v Speaker 7>guess the as you said that kind of came tumbling

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<v Speaker 7>down a little bit there at the end.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, the I mean the wow come tumbling wow

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<v Speaker 6>is that John Boomer Mellencamp.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone worse than John Boomer and Mellencamp?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't wanted to know that just.

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<v Speaker 1>Thee let the Walls come tumbling down? Was John Gruger

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<v Speaker 1>Mellencamp singing about the fall of Berlin Wall? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what that's about? Is that more Boomer Cia Tesla Scorpions crap?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you not know that? By the way, was this Scorpions?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't keep with these horrible hair metal bands? Dude?

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01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Who's the uh? A lot of y'all didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>This team me to the Minica in the moment of night?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is it? These horrible bands? It's a Guardian article?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Scorpions? I don't know these stupid bands? Winds

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01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:45.159
<v Speaker 1>have changed? Who sings that? Y'all didn't know that was

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01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a CIA operation? Duh? Scorpions Scorpions power ballad? Was the

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01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:56.159
<v Speaker 1>sound of Iron Curtains fall? Yeah? It was a big

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01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:00.760
<v Speaker 1>music producer who put to go out of this big

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01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>operation too for at the behest of the CIA for

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01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Scorpions to play the Fall of Berlin Wall. Y'all didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know that, did you?

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01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Co conspiracy? Thor tea me in the Manica Moment window change.

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<v Speaker 1>Which, by the way, that's about like Western neoliberalism breathing

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01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>through the winds of that's what it's. It's actually some

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01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>people argue there's a little eso terry stuff going on. There

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01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:38.159
<v Speaker 1>could be, I mean, I don't listen to freaking scorpions

1346
01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>and this boomer crap. But yeah, a lot of y'all

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01:36:43.359 --> 01:36:46.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know that that was a CIA, And there's

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01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:54.039
<v Speaker 1>a whole crazy story about this too. Uh yeah, for real,

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01:36:56.359 --> 01:37:01.039
<v Speaker 1>let's get to some more of this where we're at.

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<v Speaker 10>The simplest way I think to talk about it is

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01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:09.239
<v Speaker 10>that the as you mentioned right at the beginning of

1352
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:12.520
<v Speaker 10>the story, is a story about building confidence in these

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01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:16.199
<v Speaker 10>intelligence agencies because of the perceived role they played in

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01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:21.399
<v Speaker 10>the victories in World War Two and the early Cold War. It's,

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01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:23.840
<v Speaker 10>you know, probably worth noting that a lot of those

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01:37:24.319 --> 01:37:29.000
<v Speaker 10>victories in what they called the religious approach to intelligence

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01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:30.720
<v Speaker 10>may not have been due for as much credit as

1358
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:33.439
<v Speaker 10>they sometimes gave it. But nonetheless, right, this sort of

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01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:36.399
<v Speaker 10>encouraged the idea that, like this was a profitable avenue

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01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:39.119
<v Speaker 10>for intelligence work, and so it builds and builds, and

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<v Speaker 10>after the Iranian Revolution, you see a couple things happen,

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<v Speaker 10>but the big one is that all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 10>religion within the body of Vieuss intelligence work gets looked

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01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:51.640
<v Speaker 10>at much more critically, and so in the lead up

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<v Speaker 10>to the revolution in the late seventies, even there's an

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<v Speaker 10>uptick and coverage of Islam, there's an uptick and coverage

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01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:02.920
<v Speaker 10>of Iran. But it's this idea that Ayatola Homoni is

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<v Speaker 10>just basically that he's crazy and he's sort of almost

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01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:08.600
<v Speaker 10>he's almost described as like a time traveler, right, that

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<v Speaker 10>he's this guy that's kind of from the ancient past.

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<v Speaker 10>And there's all of these incredible quotes in the Doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, that's what That's what the Terish at the beginning

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01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.399
<v Speaker 1>of Back to the Future are, even though they're Libyan, like,

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01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:28.439
<v Speaker 1>it's the time traveling Komani Mari. Remember, remember the Terish,

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01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>it's the Libyan terrorist. Though that doesn't work, but we'll

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01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>make it work.

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<v Speaker 10>Human Doug Miner a record about you know, there's no

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01:38:35.800 --> 01:38:38.680
<v Speaker 10>way he could run a modern country because you know,

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01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:42.119
<v Speaker 10>someone of his religious interest isn't interested in the modern world.

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<v Speaker 10>He doesn't fit. That's the thing that keeps coming back.

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01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:46.359
<v Speaker 10>He doesn't fit and then he does fit as it

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01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:48.199
<v Speaker 10>turns out right, and all of a sudden they sort

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01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:52.600
<v Speaker 10>of have to reassess what went wrong. And so from

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01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:55.600
<v Speaker 10>nineteen seventy seven, nineteen seventy eight, then to nineteen eighty

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01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:58.000
<v Speaker 10>eighty one, you just see a total shift in how,

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01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:01.439
<v Speaker 10>at least to classified documents we have talk about religion.

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01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:05.640
<v Speaker 10>And I think the big place you see that are

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01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:07.800
<v Speaker 10>the big evidence for that is in the much more

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01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:11.720
<v Speaker 10>suspicious stance that the US takes towards liberation theology in

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01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:14.920
<v Speaker 10>Central and South America. That right, these are Catholic folks

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01:39:14.920 --> 01:39:16.720
<v Speaker 10>doing it. These are pre so many cases.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep in mind that even though there is a

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01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>conservative traditionalist element within the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches

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01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that do not like liberation theology because of their obvious

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01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:34.079
<v Speaker 1>connections to Marxism and socialism, there's also a sizable contingent

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01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>within the American power structure that favors liberalism, social gospel,

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01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and liberation theology because it's amenable too progressing Christianity towards

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01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the acceptance of family planning.

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<v Speaker 4>That
