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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes, Dan Ray, I'm going crazy. Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as I indicated, if you wanted to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Tanya Fernandez Anderson situation, You're more than

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<v Speaker 2>welcome six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. We had

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<v Speaker 2>some interesting calls last hour on that topic. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of emotion involved. Bill. You're always welcome to call Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always welcome to run whatever sociological theories you want. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You you're a gentleman, so uh. And of course rashid

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<v Speaker 2>needless to say. And all the callers are more than

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<v Speaker 2>welcome So if you'd like to jump on board on that, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>we can can we can continue on that. What I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do was play today. There was an outburst

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<v Speaker 2>earlier today when the individual who is now charged with

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<v Speaker 2>the murder of Brian Thompson, Luigi Mangioni. A lot coming

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<v Speaker 2>out on this guy, wealthy family in Maryland, turned out

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<v Speaker 2>to be a stone cold killer. So when he was

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<v Speaker 2>arrested yesterday, he apparently was fairly demure, I guess at

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<v Speaker 2>one point when they asked him when he was spotted

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<v Speaker 2>at the McDonald's in Altoona. I think all of you

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<v Speaker 2>know the story by now, and whether he was spotted

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<v Speaker 2>initially buy an employee or another customer. The employee, as

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, that, called the local police department, who showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have looked at it and said, oh, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy's at McDonald's, and maybe they could have taken

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<v Speaker 2>their time. They went down there fairly quickly. They checked

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<v Speaker 2>him out and they said, hey, this looks like the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and they asked him, have you been to New York lately?

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently the guy started to shake, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a tell. Uh. He was charged with giving

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<v Speaker 2>false information to a police officer that they went through

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<v Speaker 2>his backpack, they found what they think might actually be

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<v Speaker 2>the murder weapon. They found a manifesto, the clothes that

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<v Speaker 2>he had were similar to what he had in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>on and on and on. So today he was taken

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<v Speaker 2>for a court hearing to court in Altoona, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, this guy, who we haven't heard a

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<v Speaker 2>lot from, he's fighting and struggling. Most people when you

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<v Speaker 2>see them being paraded in a court in handcuffs, and

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell if he was shackled at his ankles

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<v Speaker 2>or not. But he he saw the media and he

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<v Speaker 2>lit it up and he started yelling and screaming. This

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be well. He clearly is someone who

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<v Speaker 2>wants to get his message out. And this is brief,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is what he was, what he sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>this afternoon. If you've seen the video, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>the sound is like. If you haven't seen the video,

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<v Speaker 2>here's at least the audio on radio, Go ahead, rob boy.

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<v Speaker 2>They moved him in pretty quickly. I mean they were

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<v Speaker 2>not going to give him a chance to do a

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<v Speaker 2>quick news availability, as we would say. This guy has

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<v Speaker 2>what a fascinating study. I have to think there were

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<v Speaker 2>more people involved in this. I don't know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>speculating here. They apparently he apparently had eight thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in cash US cash and a couple of thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in euros. And again, all of this is coming out

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<v Speaker 2>from various and sundry sources. I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about this? I mean, clearly this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's he enjoys the presumption of innocence. But there's no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt in my mind that he did it. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>can call me that, I'm I'm being insensitive there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy stake this guy out, he knew where he was,

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<v Speaker 2>did he have any inside information? There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to be to be sorted out here, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I don't believe there's a death penalty in

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<v Speaker 2>New York. It's interesting. Now let him go. Alvin Bragg

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<v Speaker 2>will be the DA I guess who would bring the

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<v Speaker 2>murder charge against him. But what a coward? I mean, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what his gripe was. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>that could justify what he did. Sixty six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>nine thirty. Love to get your reaction to his demeanor today.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to be your traditional who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>file into court all hill of a lawyer, who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell him you got to start, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>behave in court. But I don't think so. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, this guy is imbued with a passion. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He sees it as his mission in life. He wrote fairly.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say a glowing review of of a writing

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<v Speaker 2>by Ted Kazinski, but he was very admiring of Kazinski's intellect.

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<v Speaker 2>This is again, there were so many there were so

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<v Speaker 2>many ways to talk about this case. You. You could

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<v Speaker 2>just take the conversation which every way you want. The

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<v Speaker 2>only lines that we're open right now is six, one, seven, nine, three,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty back on nights Side. We'll open emptyse calls

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<v Speaker 2>right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's keep rolling here to go to Sandy in

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<v Speaker 2>West Roxbury first to get us going. Sandy, how are

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<v Speaker 2>you tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Very well?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing great?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your take on? You can weigh in on whatever

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<v Speaker 2>topic you want? Which one are you calling on?

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<v Speaker 5>Both?

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<v Speaker 6>If I could?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, First, as Tom frim Luigi, I'm going to totally

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<v Speaker 3>disagree with you. I think that he had a consistent

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<v Speaker 3>personality up until about a year ago, and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>he began complaining of all kinds of pains and then

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<v Speaker 3>he disappeared, and then he came back a totally different person.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, I'm not a doctor, but they

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<v Speaker 3>should check it out for some kind of I know,

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<v Speaker 3>when people get brain tumors, their personality change. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 3>their personality has changed desperately, And it just sounds to

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<v Speaker 3>me like as opposed to Tanya who miss friend Andy's Anderson.

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<v Speaker 3>I want polite, but you know, she's always been pushing

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<v Speaker 3>the envelope there, always does things that are questionable. She

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't done anything out of her personality. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>this guy Beligi and I could be totally wrong, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think he just as confused as you are. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he knows who he is. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he knows what he's doing. I think there's a biological

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<v Speaker 3>cause for it, some kind of brain tumor or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, that would be an interesting defense

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<v Speaker 2>if indeed they were able to define that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know, lack of consistencies, have a

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<v Speaker 3>brain tumor, I don't know. Did they have a look

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<v Speaker 3>for him?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he was an odd ball and he

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<v Speaker 2>sent down bombs.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was always an odd lall that's different, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know nothing about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking to keep it in mind. Uh, to

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<v Speaker 2>be really honest with you, Sandy, I think it's an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting theory, and I'm not ready to buy it at

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<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's see apparently checking out for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I read somewhere that when he and again a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff you got to sort of weed weed

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<v Speaker 2>it out. I read somewhere that he uh in Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 2>was a surfer and that he had a surfing accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know if that's true, and that and

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<v Speaker 2>that was the cause of his back problems. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds as if he's had some back surgeries. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously pain can can can be very terrible, can be terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>terrible thing you have to deal with. But it would

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<v Speaker 2>be much more serious, as you say, if it was

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a brain tumor or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I don't know. Again, I'm just guessing,

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the lack of consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>That really I guess, my guess, it's only a guess.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a spoiled brat. He grew up comfortable answers, and

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<v Speaker 2>he came to he had some sort of a beef

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<v Speaker 2>with the insurance companies, and all of a sudden it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's corporate America that is the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, you absolutely could be right, but it just

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<v Speaker 3>seems to me it's such a drastic change in personality.

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<v Speaker 3>At least it's as.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord, all right, give us your quick take on Tanya

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<v Speaker 2>Frin Andres Anderson. Should she resign? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And you know, I mean she's always put the

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<v Speaker 3>envelope always and she you know, she's a troublemaker. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean she has them from day one. Remember when she

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<v Speaker 3>had all those counselors go to the steakhouse or something

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<v Speaker 3>to reward the students for standing up for what they believe,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it turned out, you know, because they hated

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<v Speaker 3>it is real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that was I think. I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>at City Hall. She got some sort of a residence.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it was. Of course I blamed the councilors too.

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<v Speaker 3>They should have found out what they were going for.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't even bother the ass I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But again it's the city councilors. I mean we're not

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<v Speaker 3>Well, can I say, you know, Timmy Anderson, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>do you know about her husband? Do you know that

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<v Speaker 3>he's in prison for life of first degree murder?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's I just think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe that she married the husband after and

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<v Speaker 2>again I think I don't think that they were They

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<v Speaker 2>were married before the incident. I mean happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>year two thousand or two thousand and four, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago, and it might have been that she

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<v Speaker 2>fell in love with him subsequent to his conviction. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know the timmy of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not particularly interested. But they apparently are married.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I'm crazy. I mean the people who elected her

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<v Speaker 3>I must feel at you. Does you know that she's

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<v Speaker 3>the marginalized and peenalived? And you know and you never

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<v Speaker 3>got a break and you know, and if you give

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<v Speaker 3>her a break, and what did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do with that?

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<v Speaker 3>She breaks it?

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<v Speaker 2>You got it? You got it? Yeah, Sandy, always great

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<v Speaker 2>to you, your voice, happy Honikah. I believe you. Celebrate Hanukkah.

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<v Speaker 3>You're absolutely right. Thank you very much, and marry Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>You in a happy and healthy new year.

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<v Speaker 2>And right back at you, Thanks Sandy. Happy New Year

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<v Speaker 2>to you as well. Thank you so much. Talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you soon. Six one seven thirty triple eight nine nine

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Oh, those those two lines are full at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. Let me go next to Debbie and Mansfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Debbie next on Nightsacer right ahead?

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<v Speaker 7>Ye hi, Debbie, less of that first time caller, can

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<v Speaker 7>you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, first time call get along the appreciate it would

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<v Speaker 2>subject are you look at a talk on here?

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<v Speaker 6>Go right ahead subjects?

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<v Speaker 7>But I might want to put my two cents in

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<v Speaker 7>about this kid that comes from the rich family and

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<v Speaker 7>just snapped. And I'm in recovery. I've been sober about

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen years, and I feel like this kid snapped because

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<v Speaker 7>he had his back pain. He started getting some pain medication.

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<v Speaker 7>And the way the health insurance works is, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you only get so much and then they cut you

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<v Speaker 7>off and then you gotta follow the rules. And that's

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<v Speaker 7>how I got addicted to drugs. And it gets you

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<v Speaker 7>so angry because you want those painkillers so bad. Because

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<v Speaker 7>I think he was a spoiled brat, came from money

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<v Speaker 7>this is the first time in his life he got

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<v Speaker 7>And I think, but you know, I believe everybody can

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<v Speaker 2>Be an insanity defense, and the insanity could have been

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<v Speaker 2>brought on by this. Just as as Sandy kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he he he basically was standing across the street.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew what this guy looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, according to these stories today, he kind of

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was probably embarrassed because he got hooked and

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<v Speaker 7>he's still known as this great guy, come from a

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<v Speaker 7>and he just snapped and he took down a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of lives and a lot of family members have probably

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the family members that that are hurting big time

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, those are those.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the family members that I just think that this

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating to see how it turns out.

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<v Speaker 7>Wait for the next next documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt. Debbie, thanks so much for calling and

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed the conversation. Well, thank you very much. And

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<v Speaker 2>again I admire anyone who can overcome an addiction of

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<v Speaker 7>I am thank you so much, and you have a

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<v Speaker 7>great holiday you too.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, what do you celebrate Christmas or what

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm Catholic.

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<v Speaker 8>Merry christ my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrate Christmas too, So I want to wish you a

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<v Speaker 2>merry Christmas and a great twenty and twenty five another

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<v Speaker 2>year of recovery. And I'm looking forward to your next

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<v Speaker 2>call the night side.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, Yeah, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thanks Debbie, you have a great one.

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<v Speaker 9>Good nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are great calls when you hear from people who

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<v Speaker 2>are able to overcome. Let me go next to Joe

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<v Speaker 2>and Lynn. Joe, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you well? I'm going in Friday for my

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<v Speaker 4>cancer evaluation and discussion. We're going to see what we

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<v Speaker 4>can do. But wish me luck because I may be

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to thoughts and prayers, my friend, thoughts and thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>I may be with my friend in brighton Christmas. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I have several comments on this subject. You may disagree

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<v Speaker 4>with me, but that's okay. That's why we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I have heard a lot of people, including myself, I've

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<v Speaker 4>had trouble. You know, I make the talk rounds. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to say where administrator people. A lady called

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<v Speaker 4>up like deb who was an administrator and worked with

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<v Speaker 4>the United Healthcare. She gave a high figure like eighty

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<v Speaker 4>to ninety percent, or maybe even less forty to fifty

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, a very high figure of their claims

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<v Speaker 4>have been denied. She spent over ten grand each month.

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<v Speaker 4>She's lucky she had the money to get a lawyer

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<v Speaker 4>to straighten it out or to call She says, people

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<v Speaker 4>don't have this kind of money. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 4>bad for all Dan and as you know, the internet

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<v Speaker 4>and they played it on the news. Some people, some

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<v Speaker 4>journalists were happy that he did this. I think people

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<v Speaker 4>are breaking the healthcare system has to be rebuilt. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was due to his back problems. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>getting the treatment. I don't know whether he was spoiled

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<v Speaker 4>or not. I'm not going to judge him. He comes

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<v Speaker 4>from a good family. He was wonderful before all this happened,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's bad for all. But I understand that the

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<v Speaker 4>tragedy and this is going to happen. Until this gets fixed,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't just keep denying and denying people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're against alternative therapy and these executives and this guy

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<v Speaker 4>did sell his stock and made eleven million, and one

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<v Speaker 4>guy made eighty five and I think United Healthcare is

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred billion dollars. It's okay to make a profit,

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<v Speaker 4>but not screw your customers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but the point I'm trying to make to you, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>is when when someone crosses the line and and kills

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<v Speaker 2>a guy in cold blood. By the way, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>alone in some of your This is a I want

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<v Speaker 2>to play a montage of people on social media who

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<v Speaker 2>who's saying similar to what things what you said here,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not alone here. Cut number eight, Please Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>if you would make banks hold.

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<v Speaker 10>On, I e vividly remember being on the song with

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<v Speaker 10>United health Care for for days and days, nine months

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<v Speaker 1>It was a terrible, stressful, mad scramble.

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<v Speaker 2>We appealed, of course, to United Healthcare, and they denied

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<v Speaker 2>the appeal within one day.

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<v Speaker 11>You're wondering, I'm just saying, my thoughts and prayers were

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<v Speaker 12>How don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Care?

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<v Speaker 2>Did we lose that? That was okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And then Pierce Morgan, I guess, has been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this with a woman who's a writer named Lorenz. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to play this as well. This is cut

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<v Speaker 2>number nine. I want you to react to a job

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<v Speaker 12>Why would you be in such a celebratory mood about

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<v Speaker 12>the execution of another human being? Aren't you supposed to

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<v Speaker 12>be on the caring sharing left where you know you

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<v Speaker 12>believe in the sanctity of life.

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<v Speaker 11>I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I

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<v Speaker 11>think that's why I felt, along with so many other

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<v Speaker 11>maybe not joy, but certainly not no, certainly not empathy, because.

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<v Speaker 12>Againe, how can this make you joyful? This guy's a husband,

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<v Speaker 12>a father, and he's being dumb down in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>Why did that make you joys.

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<v Speaker 11>Americans that be murdered? So are tens So are the

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<v Speaker 11>tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans who died because

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<v Speaker 11>greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies of

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<v Speaker 11>denying character the most vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>But she apparently is a former Washington Post columnist.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and I wish you would let her finish, but

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<v Speaker 4>he sort of interrupted a little Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have another I have alonger back. The bottom

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<v Speaker 2>line is there are people out there like this. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to cut. We'll finish this, rob Let's finish it

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<v Speaker 2>for Joe Cut nine a go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Should they will be killed?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 12>Should they will be killed these health care executives? Would

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<v Speaker 12>that make you even more joyful?

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<v Speaker 11>No, that would not, And uh I think because yours,

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<v Speaker 11>because it doesn't wouldn't fix the whole thing there is.

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<v Speaker 11>I find your your.

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<v Speaker 12>Question, let's be murdered in the street. I don't find

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<v Speaker 12>it funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 11>Find it funny that tens of thousands of Americans die

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<v Speaker 11>care from people like this year.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to share the part of those view boys.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like the fact that he was pushing her

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<v Speaker 4>and she she didn't mean to laugh and say joy,

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<v Speaker 4>But she is righting a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, people help opportunity Joe to say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I was over there. How can you look at this? Look?

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<v Speaker 2>If this it had gone up to him and punched

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<v Speaker 2>him in the face, he'd be he'd be in charge

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<v Speaker 2>with the salt and battery. But to cowardly shoot him

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<v Speaker 2>in the back, who would you do?

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, maybe the leg or maybe he even shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, I don't know the full circumstance of this

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<v Speaker 5>Who can I feel bad for?

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<v Speaker 2>If this kid was born into a very wealthy family,

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<v Speaker 2>his family owned resorts and golf courses. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like a Donald Trump type family actually, And then

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<v Speaker 2>he went to he went to the University of Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>and Ivy League College, went to a very prestigious masters

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<v Speaker 2>degree to I don't care what he yet, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying that that everything was given to him on a

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<v Speaker 2>silver spoon. And then I guess he ran into some

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<v Speaker 2>resolve was to was to is to create a gun,

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<v Speaker 2>a ghost gun, and people A fifty year old executive

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<v Speaker 2>of the United Healthcare I mean, all.

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<v Speaker 4>I can think is the country we may be. People

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<v Speaker 4>are just snapping, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't want to live in a country like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, because at that point it becomes the

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<v Speaker 2>survival of the fittest and whoever has Yeah, come on, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're too smart to really believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, well, I really can't say. I hope that

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<v Speaker 4>we can find out what causes if it were, if

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<v Speaker 4>it was the horrible pain, because I know those drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>They wanted to give me one when I have surgery,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said no, thanks. I don't want to be addicted.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel I'm glad Debbie is doing well in other people, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, I got I gotta run here. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>see what other people reacting. Wait till I start eleven

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<v Speaker 2>thirty news, So I gotta I gotta get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always best of luck with your treatment tomorrow, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Friday, Friday, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>To treatment on Friday, Joss. Miss the date. That's okay, Friday, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>was getting treated on Friday. We'll all say it. Prayer

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<v Speaker 2>for Joe for the treatment on Friday. Thanks Joe, talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you. So we'll take a quick break. We're on

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's keep rolling here. We're going to go next

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<v Speaker 2>to Will on Long Island. Hey, Will, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 8>How are you, Hey, Dan? How are you? You know

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<v Speaker 8>the other call that I called and says she was sober.

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<v Speaker 8>I was thinking to myself, I said, I called you

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<v Speaker 8>about five years ago, and it was on a Friday night.

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<v Speaker 8>It was the first time we spoke, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you were like a gentleman, and I said, wow, it

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<v Speaker 8>was one of those non politics nights, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 8>it's such a refresher to talk about something besides politics,

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<v Speaker 8>which obviously you know that I love and I'm addicted too.

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<v Speaker 8>But I remember telling you that, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 8>about how we wound up doing what we did for

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<v Speaker 8>a living, and how you know, I've been sober for

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<v Speaker 8>years at that point, now about sixteen years. So hearing

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<v Speaker 8>that lady say that is just always a reminder. I

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<v Speaker 8>do feel maybe there was some because I heard about

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<v Speaker 8>his back issue that he has and it's a very

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<v Speaker 8>painful condition actually that he has, and that maybe that's it.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, I heard Joe just now, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>talking about that. He shares some of the feelings that

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<v Speaker 8>this lady was sharing with Pere at Morgan. I wish

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<v Speaker 8>show all the best. I hope that he gets healthy

443
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<v Speaker 8>and better. I heard him a couple of days ago too.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope that everything goes well for him. I would

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<v Speaker 8>like to say though, that it does sound like Joe's

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<v Speaker 8>getting the care he needs. And I'm in the healthcare

447
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<v Speaker 8>industry and I was for years as a healthcare licensed agent.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of people get the care that they need.

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<v Speaker 8>Some claims, obviously are denied. And when we spoke about

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<v Speaker 8>this kid in particular, before we knew who he was

451
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<v Speaker 8>last week, I said, it's probably somebody that thinks he

452
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<v Speaker 8>represents the excesses of capitalism, or somebody who's related to

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<v Speaker 8>someone who had a claim denied, or they themselves had

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<v Speaker 8>a claim denied, or someone passed something like that. And ironically,

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<v Speaker 8>it seems to be a mix of the both, mixed

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<v Speaker 8>in with maybe a touch of mental illness because schizophrenia

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<v Speaker 8>typically on sets in your twenties. When I saw this

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<v Speaker 8>kid come in there and start talking like that, the

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<v Speaker 8>symptoms showed themselves, typically up to nine years before they

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<v Speaker 8>actually happened. Okay, there's no doubt that this person is

461
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<v Speaker 8>kind of off their rocker. You have to be to

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<v Speaker 8>do what he did. Let's start with that old blooded,

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<v Speaker 8>calculated from behind. Listen, if you really have a manifest

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<v Speaker 8>fol and it's really about the excess of the capitalism

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<v Speaker 8>and all that, why not kill him to his face?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, why not go right up to him and

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<v Speaker 8>just and do it to his face? Why do you

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<v Speaker 8>do it like that sneaky try to get away, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>like a total coward. And that's why I hope that

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<v Speaker 8>this person doesn't become some type of folk hero, because

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<v Speaker 8>I gotta be honest. I wish I could say that

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<v Speaker 8>it's only the left wing nut jobs that are praising

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<v Speaker 8>this guy, Okay, but it's not just anecdotally. I know

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of so called conservatives and a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>people obviously that are on the right, and you know

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<v Speaker 8>what side I'm on, And I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>people that I know applauding this I see a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of people. I'm listening to very conservative talk shows. Half

479
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<v Speaker 8>the people are calling saying this is good. Listen, in America,

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<v Speaker 8>it's okay to be a billionaire. It's okay to be rich. Okay,

481
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<v Speaker 8>you could make millions in sports. They voted for a

482
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<v Speaker 8>billionaire president. They love Elon Musk. However, there are some

483
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<v Speaker 8>industries like pharmaceuticals Atpipen's gouging insulin and things like this,

484
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<v Speaker 8>where the American public just tows a line where they

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<v Speaker 8>think it's despicable to become wealthy in some of these industries.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>So I see like I'm one of those people, you

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<v Speaker 8>know that, I'm like on both sides a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>I can see the argument coming from this side. But listen,

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<v Speaker 8>we can't make this kid into a folk hero. This

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<v Speaker 8>cannot be. We cannot just say that, you know, because

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<v Speaker 8>we think that somebody has you know, this is worse

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<v Speaker 8>than vigilante justice. This is literally absolutely disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah with you and I think that it's literally at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, it's the wild wild West. It's the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>of the Jungle. I got packed lines will so normally

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<v Speaker 2>I give you a lot of time. I gotta get

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<v Speaker 2>some more folks in right now.

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<v Speaker 8>I got a lot out there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks man, appreciate it. Good night, right back

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<v Speaker 2>at you, Diane and bill Ricka. Hi, Diane, welcome? How

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<v Speaker 2>are you welcome? Diane?

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<v Speaker 9>I am doing uh pretty good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>It were just great? What's your thought on this? My friend?

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<v Speaker 6>It's the booth fairy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that I know exactly who it is yourself.

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<v Speaker 9>You didn't say no, like, like, I don't agree that

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<v Speaker 9>the kid took the CEO's life, but like, you know

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<v Speaker 9>what I've been going through for almost two years now,

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<v Speaker 9>and today was a big joke. The insurance company wants

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<v Speaker 9>me to go for another X ray before they do

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<v Speaker 9>an MRI. So now they're requiring two x rays before

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<v Speaker 9>an MRI. Like, is that not the most ridiculous thing?

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<v Speaker 9>What are you going to see different from last month?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well again, is that something that's costing you or

516
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<v Speaker 2>are they doing that at their expense? Well?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know because I have to lie and not

518
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<v Speaker 9>say it's worked in comp because work in comp still

519
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<v Speaker 9>isn't pegging the bills. Yeah, it's crazy. The whole thing

520
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<v Speaker 9>is just insane. But meanwhile I'm getting fired. Let them

521
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<v Speaker 9>write from jobs because they're saying I'm at risk, but

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<v Speaker 9>I feel I'm okay. Luckily, I have two companies that

523
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<v Speaker 9>are keeping me, but they're not commission based their ally,

524
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<v Speaker 9>so my salary literally has dropped three quarters.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're you're convinced that the insurance companies. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I've had my fights with insurance companies as well. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've had I've been on those situations where you're

528
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<v Speaker 2>on the phone for two hours and you're listening to

529
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<v Speaker 2>Musac it's very frustrating. Or you get people who are offshore,

530
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<v Speaker 2>they're not they do not speak American, They're speak they're

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<v Speaker 2>attempting to speak English, it's their second language. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a second language. But at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel that these companies should hire people who can be

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<v Speaker 2>confident and qualified, and you go through the entire Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>And I've even had problems with, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the companies that are associated, I believe with United Healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they have a number of companies. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I don't think you turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and you take it out on someone this.

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<v Speaker 9>Way and the fact no, no, no, And it's just

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<v Speaker 9>kind of crazy that how this young person knew that

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<v Speaker 9>this guy is going to be there, and actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he needs well that that might have been public knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>that might have been pop knowledge that that that there was.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was what they called a shareholders meeting

546
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<v Speaker 2>in New York and he's an annual event. But how

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<v Speaker 2>did he know what street that this was six forty

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<v Speaker 2>five in the morning. My understanding is, how did he

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<v Speaker 2>know that it was at that moment in time with

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<v Speaker 2>this guy? How did he recognize him? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the street of New York and you see

552
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<v Speaker 2>someone coming down the street, how could he be certain

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<v Speaker 2>that was the guy and not some guy maybe who

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<v Speaker 2>bore a remarkable resemblance.

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<v Speaker 9>Right right, Like the whole thing is just you know, like,

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<v Speaker 9>of course I'm laying home because I'm not working until

557
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<v Speaker 9>January thirteenth, and I'm watching all these crazy other things

558
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<v Speaker 9>on YouTube and stuff, and you know, they're saying that

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<v Speaker 9>they don't even have the right kid. And then I

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<v Speaker 9>saw the warrior for the kid, and like he's saying

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<v Speaker 9>that they haven't produced any evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, of course that's what the lawyer's going

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<v Speaker 2>to say. No, I have this. They had this kid,

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<v Speaker 2>stone cold Stone.

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<v Speaker 9>No, no, I I get it too. I get it too.

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<v Speaker 9>But like I can like not that I can see

567
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<v Speaker 9>murdering anybody is the right way to go, but but

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<v Speaker 9>like I could see somebody being a little out of

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<v Speaker 9>their mind because of being in pain because of these companies.

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<v Speaker 9>But you know what the kid did, there had to

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<v Speaker 9>be something a little bit more going on in his

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<v Speaker 9>head than just pain. I think, like schizophrenia.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the last call as that of something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you totally. I'm with you totally, Diane, best

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<v Speaker 2>of luck. It's yeah, you're you know, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>that you're dealing with this difficult circumstances. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people be thinking about you tonight as well.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, Well, thank you, and I'm sure i'll talk to

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<v Speaker 9>you soon. You bet I won't say yeah, well, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Still I can still say Merry Christmas to you. It's okay,

582
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I can say that once.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, yes, but merry Christmas. And uh, it's a very

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<v Speaker 9>crazy story.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a very crazy story. Thanks, Diane. We'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you soon, okay, right right, take a quick

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<v Speaker 2>break here at nights. I'd be right back. I got

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<v Speaker 2>one line open if you want to give a shot

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<v Speaker 2>for it. What Well, actually it's two now because Diane

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<v Speaker 2>dropped off. It is six one. Give us a call.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Montreal. Frank is in Montreal. Frank, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the night Side.

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<v Speaker 13>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 10>Dan?

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you for taking my call, And yeah, I'm I

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<v Speaker 13>was captivated by this story as well, and I guess

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<v Speaker 13>all of probably the worldwide. But I was wondering and

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<v Speaker 13>an earlier caller had made reference to political affiliation and

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<v Speaker 13>they're being sympathetic towards Mangoni or not. So I was

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<v Speaker 13>wondering in my observation, and it seems to me that

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<v Speaker 13>if you're more a Democrat, you're almost more sympathetic towards

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<v Speaker 13>Manoni versus a Republican or someone right leaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I think yeah, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a generalization, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the reason is that most Republicans in

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<v Speaker 2>America are very supportive of capitalism as we have at

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<v Speaker 2>the supportive of corporations for the most part. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats are a little bit skeptical about the power that

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<v Speaker 2>exists within corporations and and that's but but at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I think that there are, uh, there's different

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<v Speaker 2>brands of both Republicans, Republicanism and UH and the Democratic platform,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they could be a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>cross over there. But I don't think anyone in their

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<v Speaker 2>right mind can support what this kid did.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh, absolutely not. It's it's and it's premeditated all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot there's a lot of people, frank on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet who enjoyed the anonymity of the anonymity of the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're saying some things, including this, uh, this reporter

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<v Speaker 2>named or this columnist named Taylor Lorenz who used to

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<v Speaker 2>write for the Washington Post, who had this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 2>this pretty challenging exchange with Piers Morgan. So what do

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<v Speaker 2>you do?

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<v Speaker 13>I heard that? Yeah, sorry, And I was just gonna

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<v Speaker 13>say that those who are you know so, And I

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<v Speaker 13>think I'm more conservative in my views, and but I

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<v Speaker 13>think I don't understand how the Republicans could ever have

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<v Speaker 13>said pro life. I think it's I'm all for it's

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<v Speaker 13>a woman's body and she decides what it's, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>the course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why there's there's these cross currents within the.

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<v Speaker 13>Within right and so the same people who maybe say

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<v Speaker 13>it's a woman's choice, but then they're saying, no, no,

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<v Speaker 13>this guy, this guy had the right to kill this man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that's yeah, I get the irony of that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my favorite Canadian Prime Minister will always be

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<v Speaker 2>Brian mulrooney, as my favorite American president of my lifetime

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<v Speaker 2>is Ronald Reagan.

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<v Speaker 13>So absolutely, And I have another story, but my wife

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<v Speaker 13>met mulrooney and Bush Senior at a restaurant Seascapes in

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<v Speaker 13>Kenny Buncourt, Maine, and what a story. Fantastic story. Another time.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a regular listener up there in Montreal? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you called before?

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<v Speaker 13>Absolutely? Enjoy it, enjoy your show immensely. Well, yeh, so

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<v Speaker 13>I've called in a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>So when are you a Canadians hockey fan?

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<v Speaker 13>I am, but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In my law practice many years ago, I represented NHL players,

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<v Speaker 2>including one of a Bostonian out there who you must remember,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris n Island. So if you're bump into Chris some

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<v Speaker 2>might I represented Chris virtually for his entire career and

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<v Speaker 2>he has done very well.

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<v Speaker 13>Are you still in touch with.

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<v Speaker 2>Him every week.

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<v Speaker 13>His mom just I think his wife is from His

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<v Speaker 13>wife is from Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct, Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 13>And yeah, and there's even the Whitey Balter connection.

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<v Speaker 2>We try not to go there too much, but when

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<v Speaker 2>you see him saying, oh, okay, Frank, I got a round,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk to Yeah. I have a great night Montreal, Frank. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try to get too in quickly here, Ron,

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<v Speaker 2>can you help me out? I want to get Dave

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<v Speaker 2>and san Antonio went as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Ron, Well, I I hope I don't shock

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of people, but I think they better get

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<v Speaker 6>their heads one straight. I believe the mainstream media is

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<v Speaker 6>projecting a thought of Luigi Manon as a hero. He's

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<v Speaker 6>not a hero.

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<v Speaker 2>Making media's doing that. Run who the mainstream media has

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<v Speaker 2>done that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, mainstream media is becoming a sickness.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you one person in the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 2>who is I haven't seen it. I watched it fairly closely.

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<v Speaker 2>If if you want to throw a name at me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. If you want to make a generalization, that's

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<v Speaker 2>okay too. What I was asking if there's someone who

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<v Speaker 2>has said something in the mainstream media I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think it was the Governor of New York's son who

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<v Speaker 6>was giving a news report on I don't know for

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<v Speaker 6>a CNN, but it was him. He was actually trying

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<v Speaker 6>to yeah, he was. He was trying to say that

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<v Speaker 6>he was good and he was good before. And and

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<v Speaker 6>what I think is Luigi Mangoni is not a hero.

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<v Speaker 6>They're trying to make him a hero. He is the

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<v Speaker 6>person who turned him in at McDonald's by identification.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the true hero.

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<v Speaker 6>And no more of this brother against brother under God's law.

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<v Speaker 13>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>He said, unto God, said unto Kane, where is Abel

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<v Speaker 6>thy brother? And he said, I know not. I am

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<v Speaker 6>my brother's tifa. And Laud said, what hast thou done?

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<v Speaker 2>And now you don't go into a lot of deep

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<v Speaker 2>religious stuff here. And I wasn't covering that story back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day. So look, I agree with you what

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<v Speaker 2>this was done. This was wrong. This was wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to try to get a quick comment from Dave

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<v Speaker 2>and San Antonio. Well, well, we'll get back to this

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<v Speaker 2>later on during the week, I promise. Okay, you're welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Dave, Thank you, Rather Ron Dave, You're at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the line. I got less than a

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<v Speaker 2>minute for you. What can you do with it?

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<v Speaker 5>I tell you so, Remember told you about how I

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<v Speaker 5>got screwed in the dental, But I had a feeling

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<v Speaker 5>that it was some dude that was protested and the

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<v Speaker 5>other way they were treating people that company.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think many people felt that you

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<v Speaker 2>were the only one who you weren't the only one

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<v Speaker 2>that felt that. But yeah, we talked about your your

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<v Speaker 2>I dental issues.

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<v Speaker 5>All over the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know it was you were going so deep.

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<v Speaker 2>I want, I want to do it? What? What? What?

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<v Speaker 13>What?

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<v Speaker 5>I am verned into itive? I have been right so

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<v Speaker 5>many times and so many people are pissed off because

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<v Speaker 5>I get right. I'm right and uh and believe me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just say this, Dave David. When I think

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<v Speaker 2>about you, I think about the phrase often mistaken, never

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<v Speaker 2>in doubt. And I'm sure you take that as a compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you good night, all right, everybody done for

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<v Speaker 2>the night. Want to thank Maria to want to thank

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Brooks, want to thank all the callers. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank all the listeners. I will be on Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>right after the show doing a postgame on Facebook. Just

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<v Speaker 2>go to Nights Hour with Dan Ray follow us on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>check us out on Instagram. We're everywhere. We will be

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<v Speaker 2>back tomorrow night. In the meantime, if you remember this,

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<v Speaker 2>remember as always, all dogs, all cats, all pets go

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven. That's my pale Charlie ray Is, who passed

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen years ago in February. That's why your pets are

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<v Speaker 2>a past. They loved you and you loved them, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe you'll see that we again. Hope to

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<v Speaker 2>see again on night side tomorrow night. Everyone, have a

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<v Speaker 2>great Wednesday. Stay dry,