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Speaker 1: very happy Friday to you when time's please to welcome
Speaker 1: to the City five KRC Morning Show offer of a
Speaker 1: couple of books we're going to be talking about today.
Speaker 1: My guest Richards author of the two books we will
Speaker 1: be speaking about today, as I mentioned, the DNA of
Speaker 1: Democracy Volume one and Shadows of the Acropolis Volume two.
Speaker 1: Born and raised in the Midwest, education took him through
Speaker 1: Loyala Academy, University of North Caro, North Texas, and graduate
Speaker 1: career at Southern Methodist University. He's been a lifelong admired
Speaker 1: of the written word, which has led him to a
Speaker 1: literary pursuits as a poet, essays and screenwriter. Also a
Speaker 1: third generation printer. Welcome to the program, mister Lyons. It's
Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on today.
Speaker 3: Oh great to be with you, Brian. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now this let's start with the DNA of Democracy. You
Speaker 1: do a long history analysis of this from the Ten
Speaker 1: Commandments all the way through modern times. How democracy is formed,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm thinking about the Ten Commandments and
Speaker 1: I've always tried to contemplate this. I try to be
Speaker 1: Switzerland in my approach to the Morning Show. I have
Speaker 1: many in my audience who are very religious. I have agnostics.
Speaker 1: I've got adeists. But I've always thought to myself, you
Speaker 1: know what, if you weren't religious, You're Moses sitting on
Speaker 1: a mountain, and you were the head of the tribe,
Speaker 1: and you left a sort of contemplate life's problems, you
Speaker 1: probably would have come up with the Ten Commandments as
Speaker 1: you sit there and contemplate, why is it that our
Speaker 1: neighbors are fighting amongst themselves? Why is it something? Well,
Speaker 1: it's because you coveted your neighbor's wife, or but it's
Speaker 1: because you cover your covetous and greedy generally, you know,
Speaker 1: don't do that stuff, and you live a happier life.
Speaker 4: No, that's great, Brian, and very true. It's common sense,
Speaker 4: isn't it.
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 4: But it's also it's also the first And people don't
Speaker 4: get this, and everybody should, even humanists, that the Ten
Speaker 4: Commandments were the first common law. They were the first
Speaker 4: law that entailed both kings and priests and had a
Speaker 4: common law to which which applied to the whole society,
Speaker 4: not just some I like that. I look at that,
Speaker 4: and that is that is a real foundation of British
Speaker 4: common law and our common law. So that's where I
Speaker 4: see it as a as a contributing element to our democracy.
Speaker 4: And also there are rights entailed to that right. If
Speaker 4: you don't covet you have a right to your own property, right,
Speaker 4: thou shalt not steal. You have a right to your
Speaker 4: own life, Thou shalt not murder. These are things that
Speaker 4: are also cornerstones of democracies.
Speaker 1: Unalienable rights. And I always think of things, Hey, I
Speaker 1: derive from God. It derived from God because the greatest illustration.
Speaker 1: And I talk to Judge Enna of Palaton about this
Speaker 1: all the time on my program. He's on every week.
Speaker 1: If you were in the state of nature, if you
Speaker 1: were plunked down in the field before there was organized police, religion,
Speaker 1: a government, you have the right to defend yourself. You
Speaker 1: have the right to own property, You have the right
Speaker 1: to hunt and gather and eat, and all of these
Speaker 1: things come built into the package. And only a government institution,
Speaker 1: or perhaps sometimes religious organization can take them away from you.
Speaker 4: Yes, correct, that's right. But if derived from God, as
Speaker 4: from the mount brought down by Moses, no power on
Speaker 4: earth can take those rights away. And that's the point.
Speaker 4: They're inalienable.
Speaker 1: Why are we as a people so willing to want
Speaker 1: to give those up? I understand we must interact and coexist.
Speaker 1: But that's where a system of laws comes in that
Speaker 1: are supposed to be designed to protect these unalienable rights.
Speaker 1: And yet people are almost fearful of being free and
Speaker 1: being able to have these choices, but being also responsible
Speaker 1: for these choices.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, there's an allure to big government.
Speaker 4: And we've been subject to that now, Brian, for decades. Yes,
Speaker 4: where the people look to big government and they.
Speaker 3: Say, you know you can.
Speaker 4: And it comes from World War two, the great success
Speaker 4: in World War Two. After that, people said, well, the
Speaker 4: government can do no wrong, and we should look to
Speaker 4: government to solve all of our problems because they solve
Speaker 4: the problem of Hitler and Japan. And it became a
Speaker 4: mindset in America that a centralized government in Washington, DC
Speaker 4: can solve all of society's will was and the allure
Speaker 4: to people is, well, if they are solving my problem,
Speaker 4: I don't have to think about it, I don't have
Speaker 4: to deal with it. And so we fell prey to
Speaker 4: that for decades and now we're just waking up to
Speaker 4: the other side of that coin, and that is that
Speaker 4: governments can also oppress. Yes, they can also overtax you.
Speaker 4: They can also spend your money really stupidly. So this
Speaker 4: is a good mindset we're discovering now with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Indeed, and you know, it's interesting on the heels of
Speaker 1: my conversation with doctor James Thorpe, who exposed how devastating
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen VA vaccine is and was for pregnant mothers.
Speaker 1: That's that that Woodrow Wilsonian, a government of experts kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Just let us tell you how it is,
Speaker 1: and then you just listen to us and just don't
Speaker 1: deny anything we tell you, and we find out we're
Speaker 1: being lied to all the time.
Speaker 4: And Fauci was the poster boy for that really.
Speaker 3: And for a government, well think about this, Brian.
Speaker 4: For a government to have the suppose right to inject
Speaker 4: something into your body, I mean, there's nothing more invasive
Speaker 4: than that.
Speaker 3: And to give government the right to do that is.
Speaker 4: Anti democratic really, And when you don't question what they're doing,
Speaker 4: that's very anti democratic.
Speaker 1: Well, I think fascinating reality we're living with here. Do
Speaker 1: you think we are all actually collectively waking up to this?
Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to have some movement back
Speaker 1: toward these fundamental liberties that we shouldn't take for granted,
Speaker 1: that based upon all the lies that we now perceive,
Speaker 1: and thanks in large part to the Internet, that these
Speaker 1: alternative voices and these realities can actually be brought to
Speaker 1: the American people, that there's going to be maybe a
Speaker 1: renaissance of that type of attitude.
Speaker 3: No, and think about your show, Think about what you know.
Speaker 4: I attributed to Rush Limbaugh what he started as an
Speaker 4: independent voice that king national and alternative and proved to
Speaker 4: be right. And so this centralization of power, I hope continues.
Speaker 4: My books illustrate how and why our government was created
Speaker 4: as a diffused power base. So you have states, localities,
Speaker 4: and then the federal government. Shadows of the Acropolis chronicles
Speaker 4: the last hundred years, and how power from Woodrow Wilson,
Speaker 4: very true concentrated in Washington, d c. Contrary to our
Speaker 4: constitutional principles. And so I'm hoping that after that century
Speaker 4: now we look at government and and all these discoveries
Speaker 4: of Elon Musk about how much money has been wasted,
Speaker 4: how it's been how it all happens to end up,
Speaker 4: my gosh, in Democrat hands.
Speaker 3: That's really funny, isn't it.
Speaker 4: How you know this cronyism, this this grifter mentality that
Speaker 4: you know, issued from the Clinton's on down, when the
Speaker 4: Democratic Party, I think when people see this, and with
Speaker 4: the vaccine and all these sorts of things, you know,
Speaker 4: government can be wrong and in fact, government can be dangerous.
Speaker 4: And when people wake up to that, they'll wake up
Speaker 4: to the idea we must shrink the size of the
Speaker 4: federal government. We must, you know, put barriers to its
Speaker 4: ability to invade our lives.
Speaker 1: Amen to that make up just a bunch of intriguing
Speaker 1: and wonderful observations and shadow of the shadows of the acropolis.
Speaker 1: I guess I wonder you talk about division that exists.
Speaker 1: You wonder why the nation feels so politically divided. There
Speaker 1: is a constant stirring of the pot of division that
Speaker 1: has just become so pronounced over the past fifteen twenty years.
Speaker 1: At every turn. You can't have an opinion about someone
Speaker 1: screaming at you that you are wrong. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how infintestinably small any given subject matter is. You're not
Speaker 1: entitled to speak your mind. The loudest voice in the room,
Speaker 1: perhaps even the smallest group of people that abide by
Speaker 1: some particular message, like that a man can be a
Speaker 1: woman ends up becoming the dominant narrative in a conversation,
Speaker 1: which is flies in the face of logic and reason.
Speaker 4: Yes, but they had such control, Brian of the media
Speaker 4: and used it and for decades again, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's like someone on the mount preaching to you and
Speaker 4: telling you that what is right is wrong and what
Speaker 4: is wrong is right, and then demanding that you believe it.
Speaker 4: And this is really where I think the Democrat Party
Speaker 4: went too far. They think they can literally do this
Speaker 4: in America, where you do have an alternative media, and
Speaker 4: where the First Bill of Rights, the First Amendment of
Speaker 4: the Bill of Rights guarantees free speech, so you cannot
Speaker 4: be un American and say you can't speak.
Speaker 1: And isn't that really what that whole anti disinformation campaign
Speaker 1: was about. They only wanted one narrative, the one that
Speaker 1: they said was the appropriate information. Again, going back to
Speaker 1: fauci or this nonsensical green religion that we've been it's
Speaker 1: been forced down our throats in spite of the objective
Speaker 1: information and scientific evidence that it's nonsense. You know, carbon
Speaker 1: dioxide's plant food, for God's sake, Well it is.
Speaker 4: It's a large part of the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: But think about the scheme.
Speaker 4: If the temperature is fifty one degrees, we can tax you.
Speaker 4: If it's ninety two degrees, we can tax you. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a real engine for money making. And where's all
Speaker 4: the money going the money? We have a virtuous private
Speaker 4: economy right large, and it's private ownership and it's private enterprise,
Speaker 4: and we've allowed this centralized government for a century to
Speaker 4: grow up on top of it as a parasitic organism
Speaker 4: that takes all the fruits of all those labors into
Speaker 4: itself and distributes that money to its friends and fellow politicians.
Speaker 4: And that's what you see when you see the EPA
Speaker 4: giving out twenty billion dollars to eight recipients, one of
Speaker 4: whom is giving five billion dollars back to his former employer. Well,
Speaker 4: who do you think that is. I think it's his friend,
Speaker 4: isn't it. Yes, We're giving two billion dollars to Stacy
Speaker 4: Abram and then she's funneling it through five other different
Speaker 4: entities in this.
Speaker 3: Web of corruption.
Speaker 4: And I really applaud that Elon Musk is going to
Speaker 4: go after this. I want the Justice Department and the
Speaker 4: Treasury to find out where every dime is going.
Speaker 3: Amen, and illustrate it on.
Speaker 4: Shows like your own, so that people know, My god,
Speaker 4: they're taking this money and doing what with it. They're
Speaker 4: giving it to their friends and their kids and other Democrats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight eight million or ten million or twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars that went to Zimbabwe or whatever for male circumcisions
Speaker 1: didn't Actually, it didn't make it nobody Zimbabwe, right, It
Speaker 1: ended up back in Washington with lobbying groups that ended
Speaker 1: up put it back in the pockets of politicians for
Speaker 1: their re election campaign. And isn't that part of the problem.
Speaker 1: We as Americans tend to select some pretty awful people
Speaker 1: as our representatives. We need to wake up to that
Speaker 1: and find better people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, there ought to be there ought to be
Speaker 4: a you know, the people are their own vetting. They
Speaker 4: are the vetting process, and they should really listen to
Speaker 4: what politicians are saying and not just say, well, they
Speaker 4: have a D by their name, so I'm voting for them.
Speaker 4: They have an R by their name, so I'm voting
Speaker 4: for them. You're right, some of these people are not
Speaker 4: qualified and really don't think in the people's best interests.
Speaker 4: They're looking for a job they can hold for thirty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and get paid.
Speaker 1: You know, Richly, guys like representatives who think Guam can
Speaker 1: capsize if you put another building on it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Richard, Richard Lions, the author of the two
Speaker 1: books we're talking about today, The DNA of Democracy and
Speaker 1: Shadows of the Acropulus, Volume two. It's been a great conversation.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it, Richard. I know my listeners are
Speaker 1: going to love to get the books, and we'll make
Speaker 1: it really easy for him by putting a link on
Speaker 1: my blog page of fifty five KRC dot com.
Speaker 3: Keep up the.
Speaker 1: Great work, pleasure man. I wish we had more time
Speaker 1: to talk, but thanks for spending time. Thanks great. I'll
Speaker 1: take you up on that. Have a wonderful weekend, Sir
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