Speaker 1: Welcome to the Trauma Therapists podcast. My name is Gimick
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Speaker 1: welcome back to the podcast. Super excited to have as
Speaker 1: my guest today, Mike Wood. Mike welcome, Thank you, Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me awesome. So, Mike spent over thirty
Speaker 1: years living with anxiety and depression before making the decision
Speaker 1: to go all in on his own healing. What came
Speaker 1: out of that journey is Learned to Love Being You,
Speaker 1: a ten week program built around the tools and practices
Speaker 1: that actually worked for him breathwork, meditation, mindset, and emotional healing.
Speaker 1: His approach isn't clinical, it's personal, practical and grounded and
Speaker 1: lives experience. Today, He's on a mission to help others
Speaker 1: find the same piece he spent most of his life
Speaker 1: looking for. Mike, just a little bit about you before
Speaker 1: going share with our listeners where you're from originally and
Speaker 1: where you are currently, and then we'll dive in.
Speaker 2: I grew up in California, and after high school, I
Speaker 2: moved to Tennessee and that's where I've been living for
Speaker 2: the last thirty years.
Speaker 1: All right, So thirty thirty years, as it says in
Speaker 1: your bio, living with anxiety, knowing something's going on, depression.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people can. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just relate to that. Talk to us,
Speaker 1: take us back. How did all this start?
Speaker 3: So, you know, now on the other side of it,
Speaker 3: I know where it started. You know.
Speaker 2: I had some childhood trauma with my with my dad
Speaker 2: leaving when I was you know, one and a half
Speaker 2: years old. But the biggest thing that was that caused
Speaker 2: abandonment issues that I was able to deal with later.
Speaker 2: But the bigger issue for me was I didn't I
Speaker 2: had a rare four of dyslexia. I still do and
Speaker 2: I didn't learn how to read past the second grade
Speaker 2: level until I was twenty five years old. So at
Speaker 2: a very early age, I got into an elevated emotional
Speaker 2: state with a clear intention, and that clear intention was
Speaker 2: that I wasn't as.
Speaker 3: Smart as everybody else. I was dumb.
Speaker 2: And so here come those thoughts every day from the
Speaker 2: all the way through the future. Up to the point
Speaker 2: when I was or forty seven years old, and I
Speaker 2: went back and rewrote all of that, those negative thoughts
Speaker 2: that we all have that haunt us, that cause our anxiety,
Speaker 2: it's actually coming from somewhere.
Speaker 3: It's coming from a root cause.
Speaker 2: And I was able to learn how to go back
Speaker 2: to those root causes and.
Speaker 3: Get rid of them, basically removed them.
Speaker 1: And that was just that was we'll get there. You're
Speaker 1: you're jumping way ahead. You're giving You're just giving us
Speaker 1: that thirty thousand fit big perspective. But I want details
Speaker 1: and old I want to ask you a question. What's
Speaker 1: this rare form of dyslexia?
Speaker 2: So it's hereditary And it didn't get diagnosed in me
Speaker 2: until I was about, i want to say, about thirty
Speaker 2: five years old, when my son had dyslexia and we
Speaker 2: sent them to the University of Middle Tennessee and they
Speaker 2: diagnosed him and they said, this is a rare form,
Speaker 2: it's typically hereditary. And I'm at that point, I'm about
Speaker 2: in tears because I'm passing this on to him. Everything
Speaker 2: they were talking about with him was the same, and
Speaker 2: my child after him as well, my last two kids.
Speaker 2: I have six kids, and the last two both have
Speaker 2: the exact same thing.
Speaker 3: They're struggling with reading.
Speaker 2: We're getting them helping, you know, but when my time,
Speaker 2: there wasn't any help.
Speaker 1: So you grew up. You're struggling what academically? Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: thinking you're not as smart? How does that? How do
Speaker 1: you manage that? How does how do you deal with that?
Speaker 3: So you hide it?
Speaker 1: All?
Speaker 3: Is what I did.
Speaker 2: I hit behind the kid in front of me in class,
Speaker 2: trying not to get called on to.
Speaker 3: Read out loud. I did all my homework.
Speaker 2: I scanned for keywords and was able to do all
Speaker 2: my homework, virtually failed every test, got out of school
Speaker 2: with c's and d's. It was it was a struggle,
Speaker 2: but I was I did it alone. I did it hiding,
Speaker 2: and it created a lot of tools that I'm able
Speaker 2: to use in business, and it gave me a lot
Speaker 2: of you know, figure it.
Speaker 3: Out skills, right, But at the end of the day, it.
Speaker 2: Also created a lot of negative core beliefs within me
Speaker 2: that that haunted me for years to come.
Speaker 1: So you failed every test, you get into high school,
Speaker 1: how does that? What does that look like?
Speaker 2: So you know, and so they put me in the
Speaker 2: lower level classes so the basic stuff you know. In reality,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm very intelligent, but I had to learn how
Speaker 2: to scan for keywords when I'm reading the test.
Speaker 3: I couldn't comprehend a paragraph.
Speaker 2: I could read one sentence at a time, but by
Speaker 2: the time I read the second sentence, I couldn't remember
Speaker 2: what the first sentence said, and so I would have
Speaker 2: to just scan for keywords. And I just I just
Speaker 2: use little tricks like that to get myself through every day.
Speaker 2: I was really good at basketball, so I had a
Speaker 2: couple of coaches that taught history, helped me along the
Speaker 2: way a little bit. Maybe maybe I should have got
Speaker 2: a D. Maybe I ended up with a B. I
Speaker 2: actually got a little love from one teacher. It was
Speaker 2: a high school basketball coach. But in reality, I just struggled. Man,
Speaker 2: it was a it was a it was a very
Speaker 2: challenging time for me.
Speaker 1: So I'm imagining low self esteem, low self worth. Are
Speaker 1: you do you have friends? Are you hanging out? No?
Speaker 2: I very introverted, and so I have a big I
Speaker 2: had a family full of brothers, so I invertally got.
Speaker 3: Around their friends and people.
Speaker 2: So I wasn't a complete invert introvert, but I and
Speaker 2: I also played a lot of sports, so I made
Speaker 2: friends through sports. But as far as the social life,
Speaker 2: going to somebody else's house or then coming to my house,
Speaker 2: and now, none of that happened because I was just
Speaker 2: I was terrified.
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to communicate with people. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it was, it was. It was a kind of a
Speaker 3: challenging experience.
Speaker 1: So was anyone your parents looking at you saying, Mike,
Speaker 1: we got what's up? We gotta maybe we got to
Speaker 1: get this kid some help or or what.
Speaker 3: They didn't know, they didn't know it. Wow, you know,
Speaker 3: I hate it.
Speaker 2: But you know, my dad was gone, so he was
Speaker 2: not in the picture. My mom was doing the best
Speaker 2: she could to raise three kids, all with government assistants.
Speaker 3: She had a job, but that wasn't enough.
Speaker 2: So we you know, all of our meals were through
Speaker 2: government assistants through the school. You know, she she did
Speaker 2: the best she could to keep up with us and
Speaker 2: keep us clothed and fed. And you know, so, no,
Speaker 2: I didn't really have much support from home, and nobody
Speaker 2: really understood what I was going.
Speaker 1: Through, to be honest, So high school, college.
Speaker 2: No, No, I wish I could have because I could
Speaker 2: have played college basketball. But I actually went in my
Speaker 2: junior I went to Analov Valley Junior High or junior college,
Speaker 2: and I flunked out my first semester.
Speaker 3: Because the tricks that I had in the past, they
Speaker 3: weren't going to carry me through the way college flowed.
Speaker 2: I mean, you actually had to be able to read
Speaker 2: and comprehend and do work on your own, and at
Speaker 2: the pace.
Speaker 3: It was going, there was no way I could keep up.
Speaker 2: So I basically flunked out in my first semester and
Speaker 2: moved on.
Speaker 1: So what do you do after that?
Speaker 3: You move on to what manual labor? Right? Manual labor?
Speaker 2: Just anything that I could, you know, because I did
Speaker 2: have a good working mind.
Speaker 3: I was able to solve problems I could. I was
Speaker 3: a hard worker.
Speaker 2: I became a very hard worker to overcompensate for what
Speaker 2: I deemed as lack of intelligence.
Speaker 3: Didn't want anybody to see, but I could. You know.
Speaker 3: I could hang us sign faster than anybody.
Speaker 2: I could shovel asphalt faster than anybody, because I was
Speaker 2: an athlete by by just naturally gifted, and and so
Speaker 2: I just excelled physically.
Speaker 3: In a lot of those areas on until.
Speaker 2: I was in my mid thirties, you know, I was
Speaker 2: doing I had a shovel in my hand until I
Speaker 2: was thirty five years old, and then I moved into
Speaker 2: the office and got a job as an estimator.
Speaker 3: And I struggled at first, but math was always easy.
Speaker 2: Like math I was able to do in my head
Speaker 2: when I was two years old, four years old, as
Speaker 2: early as I can remember, I could.
Speaker 3: Do math in my head.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So that the gift, right, you know, the yin and
Speaker 2: yang of everything, you know, doing math in your head.
Speaker 2: And so I found my way, yeah, through hard work
Speaker 2: and found an estimating job, and then you know, moved
Speaker 2: on there and from there in my career.
Speaker 1: So well, let's get let's get to this. How do
Speaker 1: how do things unfold such that you figure out or
Speaker 1: maybe say to yourself, I need to get some help
Speaker 1: with reading or what is going on?
Speaker 2: So I knew that I couldn't read, and I just
Speaker 2: you know, one of those government things like self help
Speaker 2: for adults adult Reading basically said hey, just start reading
Speaker 2: the newspaper at once a day, you know, every day,
Speaker 2: and see how far you can.
Speaker 3: Get through it. So I did. I had a job
Speaker 3: where I was pulling out land closures, on.
Speaker 2: The interstate, and construction crews would go to work and
Speaker 2: I'd be left with a lot of times. So I
Speaker 2: started grabbing the USA Today and I just started practicing.
Speaker 2: I was so embarrassed at twenty five that I couldn't
Speaker 2: read and I was being held back that I just
Speaker 2: I just learned on my own.
Speaker 3: I just started reading the newspaper every day, and.
Speaker 2: Then before long I made it past the first page,
Speaker 2: and you know that, I was going to the political sections,
Speaker 2: and I got into pologics a little bit, and just
Speaker 2: just learned through through trying.
Speaker 1: All right, So at what point do you say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to start putting this program together. How how
Speaker 1: does it you go from sitting in your car reading
Speaker 1: USA Today to this?
Speaker 3: So what happened was I started getting success.
Speaker 2: I got in that office and got that job, and
Speaker 2: then I left that job after about five years, went
Speaker 2: to another one as a construction manager, and I thought
Speaker 2: that was going to make me.
Speaker 3: I doubled my salary, I'm making good money.
Speaker 2: My wife was able to quit working, and it made
Speaker 2: me happy for a while, but it was short lived.
Speaker 3: I leave there. I come to where I currently have
Speaker 3: a job.
Speaker 2: At Jarrett Company's become the COO of a company. We
Speaker 2: exploded from two million dollars a year to one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars a year, making more money than I need.
Speaker 3: Families happy, Wait.
Speaker 1: A hold on, hold, excuse me, but are you able
Speaker 1: to read during this?
Speaker 2: I can read now, but you can get by a
Speaker 2: level of comprehension.
Speaker 3: Reading comprehension is still not the best.
Speaker 1: But I mean, when you were working in those jobs,
Speaker 1: were you able to just get by?
Speaker 2: At about twenty five years old, I was able to
Speaker 2: learn how to read and be able to get those jobs.
Speaker 2: But you know, I still suffer. I still struggled in
Speaker 2: some of the other areas. But I just worked my
Speaker 2: butt off right.
Speaker 3: And made myself valuable in other ways where you know,
Speaker 3: I had a weakness with reading comprehension.
Speaker 2: So if I had to read a contract for a
Speaker 2: job that I was doing, you know, it would just
Speaker 2: take me.
Speaker 3: A long time. I'd have to you know, it would take.
Speaker 2: Me five times long to read one contract because I
Speaker 2: wouldn't understand anything. So as I got further along to
Speaker 2: answer your question, what hit me hard is that I
Speaker 2: had achieved everything in my life that I thought was
Speaker 2: gonna make all that noise in my head stop. You know,
Speaker 2: all of the insecurities, all of the negative stuff that
Speaker 2: was going on inside me that was making me miserable
Speaker 2: on a daily basis.
Speaker 3: I reached a place.
Speaker 2: Where I had achieved everything in the outside world and
Speaker 2: I was still miserable.
Speaker 1: And those negative voices were saying, what.
Speaker 3: You're not good enough.
Speaker 2: Everybody's going to find out, You're stupid, that you're not
Speaker 2: you're not lovable, you're not worthy it. Just take those
Speaker 2: core bases and just take it into throw it into
Speaker 2: any situation and that and the thought would just morph
Speaker 2: into whatever was happening with that general tone of those things.
Speaker 1: So how do you deal with that? What do you do?
Speaker 1: What did you do?
Speaker 2: You know, in my early twenties or through my twenties,
Speaker 2: I smoked a lot of weed. I never really took
Speaker 2: to alcohol too much, but in my uh my late thirties,
Speaker 2: you know, just trying to be social with my wife
Speaker 2: because she was wanting to be out and me, I
Speaker 2: would start drinking socially and that helped me.
Speaker 3: I would have to drink to be social with folks.
Speaker 2: And and that was how I kind of came out
Speaker 2: of my shell and actually started interacting with folks in
Speaker 2: a personal setting anyway. Yeah, so it was I would
Speaker 2: medicate basically to be able to navigate because I didn't
Speaker 2: know what to do with the anxiety that would come up.
Speaker 3: If if we went back fifteen.
Speaker 2: Years and I tried to have this conversation with you,
Speaker 2: I would stutter. I would I would have a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of uh, just involuntary things happening in
Speaker 2: my body that would make it very difficult for me
Speaker 2: to even have a real conversation with you.
Speaker 1: Was there any thought at any time, I need to
Speaker 1: get some help and maybe I need to see a
Speaker 1: therapist or whatever.
Speaker 3: No, I was.
Speaker 2: I was trying to just tough it up, you know,
Speaker 2: the old school away robed some dirt on it and
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 3: You just get back in the game. You can't. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that was that was what I tried.
Speaker 1: To do, all right, So take us to where You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start helping other people when, but when did
Speaker 1: you start helping yourself?
Speaker 2: So when I was forty five years old, fort yeah,
Speaker 2: forty five, I stopped looking outward and I turned inward.
Speaker 3: That's when I started.
Speaker 2: When I started walking Why, Because I realized that there
Speaker 2: was nothing left for me to achieve. I thought I
Speaker 2: was going to be able to solve these problems by
Speaker 2: getting the next job making more money doing it.
Speaker 3: But I had more money than I needed.
Speaker 2: I had a house, I had the wife, I had
Speaker 2: the best friend. I had all of these things, and
Speaker 2: I was still as miserable as I ever was. And
Speaker 2: in fact, what was happening is those voices were getting
Speaker 2: even louder.
Speaker 3: I was more miserable with all of those things.
Speaker 2: And I told my boss when I really hit that
Speaker 2: breaking point, I told him I was going to quiet
Speaker 2: my mind by any means necessary, because honestly, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I wanted to continue living the way that
Speaker 2: I was, and I had everything that I thought would
Speaker 2: make me happy, So what do you do?
Speaker 3: So I turned my focus inward and I.
Speaker 2: Found a few things Tony Robbins video here, and everything started.
Speaker 3: Saying, work on yourself, work on yourself. I started trying meditation.
Speaker 2: I would do ten fifteen minute meditations and I would
Speaker 2: feel a moment of wow.
Speaker 3: I feel good for five minutes.
Speaker 2: I feel good for ten minutes, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's something I'm going to follow that pathway.
Speaker 3: You know, when something happened. I kept going and it
Speaker 3: got to.
Speaker 2: The point where I was consuming on audible ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen books a month. I was meditating for two to
Speaker 2: three hours a day for wow for a long time.
Speaker 1: And then I and you're married at this point, yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have kids twenty two years Yeah, okay, wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I dove in big time. Guy.
Speaker 2: I've always been a hard worker, and I took all
Speaker 2: that hard work that I was spreading everywhere else and
Speaker 2: I just turned it all inward. I mean even now
Speaker 2: I'm working on me. I just put it all inward.
Speaker 2: And I started exploring things like reiki healing. I learned
Speaker 2: how to do reiki healing. I went to any modality
Speaker 2: that I could figure out, and I stumbled astar guy
Speaker 2: named Chris Hancock in Franklin, Tennessee therapy outside the Box,
Speaker 2: and I started going to him.
Speaker 3: And the reason I went to him is.
Speaker 2: Because he he had something called energy healing, and I
Speaker 2: had no idea what it was. But at that point,
Speaker 2: after about two years of working on my own, I
Speaker 2: started to realize if I put a crystal in my hand,
Speaker 2: that I could feel the energy in my hand and
Speaker 2: that focus on my hand would turn my brain off.
Speaker 2: And I started using that as a tool, and I
Speaker 2: started playing with the energy in my hand and my chakras.
Speaker 2: And when I heard about him, I was like energy healing.
Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm just gonna try it.
Speaker 1: And hang on. So I got this. I got a
Speaker 1: title of your book from shoveling my hand to a
Speaker 1: crystal in my hand. Exactly how seriously you got the crystaling?
Speaker 1: Did you ever think you'd be sitting there with a
Speaker 1: crystal in your hand? Oh?
Speaker 3: I thought something, be crazy? You send me to the
Speaker 3: learning farm like no. And when I rarely tell people
Speaker 3: that because they do thing. What are you talking about that?
Speaker 2: But because not everybody puts a crystal in their hand
Speaker 2: and they could feel it vibrate.
Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, I could, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people can.
Speaker 2: And there's certain type of crystals that vibrate at a
Speaker 2: higher frequency, and so you get one of those that's
Speaker 2: really powerful in your hand, you could feel it.
Speaker 3: I carry it around with me everywhere when I.
Speaker 2: Go into meetings here tense, and I would put those
Speaker 2: in my hand and it would quiet my mind and
Speaker 2: I could be present, you know, because the noise in
Speaker 2: my head would stop when I would think about this
Speaker 2: because you can't have two focuses.
Speaker 3: When the mind is idle, it could just go wherever
Speaker 3: it wants.
Speaker 2: But when I have focus on this energy in my
Speaker 2: hand at least partial, now I'm able to be present
Speaker 2: with you and everybody else.
Speaker 3: After a while, I didn't need them anymore. I could
Speaker 3: just feel it while I'm pointing out my hand.
Speaker 2: As I'm doing this, I could feel the energies in
Speaker 2: my hand even as a practice, and it was just
Speaker 2: a tool. It's nothing crazy about it, but it is
Speaker 2: a magnificent tool to just quiet the mind. And that
Speaker 2: was my ultimate goal is I realized my mind was
Speaker 2: the thing that was causing all of my pain. It
Speaker 2: wasn't anything out in the world, it was what was
Speaker 2: going on in my mind. And that's where Chris came
Speaker 2: in and we started going backwards and healing the things
Speaker 2: that were causing the voices right, And so that's where
Speaker 2: I was telling that story a little bit.
Speaker 3: I got ahead of you.
Speaker 2: But when I went back to five year old Mike
Speaker 2: in the kindergarten class, when I first learned that I
Speaker 2: wasn't as smart as everybody, because my teacher got excited,
Speaker 2: she was getting frustrated that I couldn't spell Michael, and
Speaker 2: she asked me to spell Mike, and I noticed because
Speaker 2: of her frustrations, I started paying attention. All the other
Speaker 2: kids had already spelt their name, and she was a
Speaker 2: little agitated, which got me excited, which opens up the
Speaker 2: subconscious mind to be programmed and then the clear intention
Speaker 2: of being dumb. But what's great about the subconscious mind
Speaker 2: is it has no concept of time and it doesn't
Speaker 2: understand the difference between.
Speaker 3: Reality and a pursuit reality.
Speaker 2: So I'm able to go back with my imagination to
Speaker 2: that moment right now, reframe that whole situation with compassion
Speaker 2: for the teacher she didn't understand.
Speaker 3: Forgive her because she didn't understand.
Speaker 2: Same thing with all the students and myself, and my
Speaker 2: subconscious mind will no longer hold on to that as
Speaker 2: a core memory, and it'll just move it.
Speaker 3: What I'd like to say, put it in the love bucket.
Speaker 2: And now those negative thoughts from that day they don't
Speaker 2: they don't.
Speaker 3: Show up anymore.
Speaker 2: It's because the subconscious mind's number one job is to
Speaker 2: protect us, and that's what it's trying to do. It's
Speaker 2: trying to hold onto that memory and scan constantly to
Speaker 2: make sure we never experience that negative that negative thing again.
Speaker 2: And so the beautiful thing is we can just go
Speaker 2: back and rewrite it. It's it's absolutely amazing and liberating.
Speaker 1: So this is what this is kind of, or the
Speaker 1: quote unquote therapy that you were working on, yes with
Speaker 1: that individual. And when you started to work with him,
Speaker 1: what did you start to see or feel or experience.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was just literating because for a
Speaker 2: week at a time, the noises in my head would
Speaker 2: just go down to twenty percent and then it.
Speaker 3: Would come back.
Speaker 2: But when I started to feel that, I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm all in, I can't even afford to go to
Speaker 2: this guy, but I am going to keep going every
Speaker 2: week and I'm gonna keep doing this. And what happened
Speaker 2: was we worked through a handful of different types of
Speaker 2: modalities that he teaches and I got to learn a lot, right,
Speaker 2: And so I just kept going back and back and back.
Speaker 2: And like one of the early ones that was it
Speaker 2: was very small, because it sometimes it takes a while
Speaker 2: to get to the head of your stuff.
Speaker 3: But like compliments, I.
Speaker 2: Realized that whenever I receive a compliment, it would make
Speaker 2: me feel gross.
Speaker 3: It would make me feel like a fraud if they
Speaker 3: were giving it to me.
Speaker 2: And then if I accepted the compliment like it was
Speaker 2: a good thing, then I felt like I was you know,
Speaker 2: like the whole thing was just I didn't like a compliment.
Speaker 2: And so we worked on that one day and then
Speaker 2: I mean within two hours of me walking out of
Speaker 2: that session, somebody gave me a compliment and I was
Speaker 2: just able to say thank you, and I had no
Speaker 2: physical response to it, like I didn't get high low,
Speaker 2: and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, wait, something is happening here.
Speaker 2: The physical reactions that I had in my daily life
Speaker 2: started going away, and I was able to respond to
Speaker 2: situations instead of having a physical reaction, and those physical
Speaker 2: reactions they're painful, right, And and that's where my life
Speaker 2: just changed.
Speaker 3: I just doub all in and about.
Speaker 2: I'd say three years into the process, I created my
Speaker 2: own writing exercise to do the same thing that we're
Speaker 2: talking about here, to make it very easy for anyone
Speaker 2: to do it. You know, you probably need to do
Speaker 2: it with somebody the first time or the set and
Speaker 2: first one or two times, but after that, anybody could
Speaker 2: do it for the rest of their life and never
Speaker 2: have to pay anybody to help them anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, let's as we let's talk about you and your
Speaker 1: program and this crazy Mike. I mean, your your story
Speaker 1: really is just amazing, amazing, you were, uh what's the word.
Speaker 1: I don't know if resilience sounds a little trite, but
Speaker 1: your your your strength right to come here through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're welcome to come through this, like Jesus. So, at
Speaker 1: what point did you get to the situation where you
Speaker 1: were like, I want to start helping other people? What
Speaker 1: did that look like?
Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you what got Would you get to
Speaker 2: the other side of feeling how I was, and you
Speaker 2: get to the other side where you're living most of
Speaker 2: your days in a positive mind frame, where you feel
Speaker 2: like you can just sit in this chair and be
Speaker 2: happy and do nothing, not play on my phone. I could,
Speaker 2: I could just sit here and be happy for no reason.
Speaker 2: What happens is you start noticing all of the pain
Speaker 2: and everyone else around you. You start to see the
Speaker 2: hidden pain that I was hiding from, hiding from everyone
Speaker 2: for so many years. Now I could see it in everyone,
Speaker 2: and it was it was painful.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: That awareness that I gained was painful, And it's just
Speaker 2: a natural response. You see somebody broken down on the
Speaker 2: side of the road, A lady gets out to change
Speaker 2: your tire, like you've got to pull over there. It's
Speaker 2: just a just a reaction, and that it's just a reaction.
Speaker 2: It's just a physical reaction to seeing people in pain.
Speaker 2: And I know that I can help them, right, I
Speaker 2: know that could change that old lady's tire. I know
Speaker 2: that I could help.
Speaker 1: So what did you do? How did you talk? Walk
Speaker 1: us through you saying to yourself, I want to start
Speaker 1: helping other people. I want to put a program together.
Speaker 1: How do you what is it?
Speaker 2: So what I did in the middle of my journey
Speaker 2: with all of this, because writing was such a big deal.
Speaker 3: The first thing I did in my journey, it was
Speaker 3: I wrote a book.
Speaker 2: It was a golf book that I had helped somebody
Speaker 2: through a golf swing.
Speaker 3: But what it did is it also opened them up
Speaker 3: to a whole other world.
Speaker 2: So when I got to the other side of this
Speaker 2: after that golf book, which two people had read, but
Speaker 2: it was just a milestone for me. You know, it
Speaker 2: wasn't like a publisher to the world. It was just
Speaker 2: posted on Amazon and be done with it. And so
Speaker 2: I had the idea when I created my own writing
Speaker 2: exercise that I needed to write a book and share
Speaker 2: this with the world.
Speaker 3: And I spent about a year working on it and
Speaker 3: the book. I sent it to one of the.
Speaker 2: Most renowned editors in the in the United States and
Speaker 2: in London, and they sent it back to me. I
Speaker 2: paid them like five grand to review my book, and
Speaker 2: they said, Mike, your book's dead on arrival. And they said,
Speaker 2: you don't have an online platform and you don't have
Speaker 2: social media following.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, put the book down, let's
Speaker 3: go be here.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take what I had in my book
Speaker 2: and let's create a program that's a great I I
Speaker 2: want to actually help people. So I start working hard
Speaker 2: developing a program, starting to organize things.
Speaker 3: All right, what do people need to do? First? Second, third?
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I had these beautiful people
Speaker 2: show up and they're like, Mickey, you're working on this program.
Speaker 3: What are you doing here? And I had seven people
Speaker 3: show up and want to take it.
Speaker 2: And it's it was they were they wanted to do it,
Speaker 2: like you can't help anybody unless they want to help themselves.
Speaker 2: And I had seven people randomly show up and want
Speaker 2: to take this program. So we worked through it, and
Speaker 2: with their guidance and everything, we went through it, and
Speaker 2: every single one of their lives changed. Two of them
Speaker 2: were on anxiety meds when they started it. Within two
Speaker 2: weeks of starting it, we're off anxiety meds. It's been
Speaker 2: a year and a half since then, they're still not
Speaker 2: taking anxiety meds.
Speaker 3: And so I'm just like blown away how this is
Speaker 3: all working.
Speaker 2: And I'm rearranging things because we run into some roadblocks
Speaker 2: and I get it all done.
Speaker 3: I posted last June.
Speaker 2: And now I'm in this marketing phase where I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out how to help people. But the what
Speaker 2: has happened with those first seven people changed my life.
Speaker 2: It's just like holy moly. And I've got video testimonies
Speaker 2: of how they all went through it. Some of them
Speaker 2: are teaching the same stuff now that other people. It's
Speaker 2: just that first seventh thing literally just altered my life
Speaker 2: in a way that, you know, just filled me up
Speaker 2: with love, and I just I can't wait to help
Speaker 2: somebody else.
Speaker 3: So now I take it to prisons.
Speaker 2: I take it to a handful of places that that
Speaker 2: people are willing because one of the one of the
Speaker 2: big problems I had gut in the beginning when I
Speaker 2: started doing this was I wanted to help everybody, and
Speaker 2: I realized that you can't help anybody that doesn't want,
Speaker 2: you know, doesn't want to help. So you know, that's
Speaker 2: when I started exploring, like you know, maximum security prisons
Speaker 2: and you know, these guys got nothing but time.
Speaker 3: Somebody in there has to want my help.
Speaker 1: So what's the program called.
Speaker 3: It's called Learned to Love Being You?
Speaker 1: Okay? And is it? What is it? Is it an
Speaker 1: online program? A video program? What? Okay?
Speaker 2: It's an online program with a bunch of power points
Speaker 2: where basically just we walk you through everything.
Speaker 3: It's very easy.
Speaker 2: You also get instructions like on paper, and then you
Speaker 2: get worksheets to walk you walk.
Speaker 3: You through everything. And then also once a week we
Speaker 3: have a group meeting where we can guide everybody through it.
Speaker 1: Okay? And who is it for?
Speaker 2: It's for anybody that's, you know, struggling with anxiety or depression.
Speaker 2: You know, at whatever level, you know, you're dead and
Speaker 2: everybody's different, but it's for anybody struggling with anxiety and depression.
Speaker 1: Do people get time with you during this?
Speaker 2: They can, Yeah, you know they absolutely can so uh
Speaker 2: and that's honestly the most beneficial way to work through
Speaker 2: the So everybody that takes it, I try to make time,
Speaker 2: you know, because I'm not trying to make money.
Speaker 3: I truly not I needed to make I need this
Speaker 3: course to.
Speaker 2: Be expensive, but I'm having people tell me to charge
Speaker 2: a lot more, but I'm just like, no, I want
Speaker 2: everybody to be able to afford it. It's five hundred bucks,
Speaker 2: but it gives you tools that you won't have to
Speaker 2: go back to the therapists anymore.
Speaker 3: You know. That's where it gets you. The cycle. Like
Speaker 3: we show up at the therapist.
Speaker 2: We go every week, and then you know, we're there
Speaker 2: twelve years later, and I don't know if we're better.
Speaker 2: We know more about ourselves and more educated, but we've
Speaker 2: not healed anything. And I think some I'm noticing that
Speaker 2: there's a lot of therapists that do a lot of
Speaker 2: good and they're using tools that are helping people in
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. But I really want to
Speaker 2: see people go to the root of things and be
Speaker 2: able to heal at the core of where it comes from.
Speaker 2: And the voices in your head are coming from somewhere, right,
Speaker 2: and we have control of a percent of that, and
Speaker 2: we don't have to just settle like, oh, here's, here's
Speaker 2: a here's there's this negative thing that happened to me
Speaker 2: in my past.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to haunt us.
Speaker 2: There's there's a there's a manual way to remove it,
Speaker 2: and there's lots of other modalities.
Speaker 3: And what I created isn't unique to me.
Speaker 2: The Buddhists have been doing this for twenty five hundred years,
Speaker 2: and there's all different types of ways to do this.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a d MR, there's hypnote therapy, there's
Speaker 2: there's a lot of different modalities that go back to
Speaker 2: the root cause, reframe it, remove it and it and
Speaker 2: then it stops haunting you.
Speaker 1: All right, Mike, how do people learn more about you
Speaker 1: and more about your course? It's the best way.
Speaker 2: Okay, So one thing, guy, I want to say thank
Speaker 2: you for having me on and I want to give
Speaker 2: your your uh, your audience a gift.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It just tells them on this process.
Speaker 2: And so the way you guys can find me is
Speaker 2: m would at or m would good mindset dot com
Speaker 2: backslash what a therapist?
Speaker 3: Right? Is that? What is in your name in your
Speaker 3: title of your podcast?
Speaker 1: Right, Uh yeah, trauma therapist podcast.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so backslash therapist. I got okay said trauma,
Speaker 2: but it's it's definitely therapist.
Speaker 1: So once again mwoodmindset dot com slash therapist.
Speaker 3: That's it, okay, and what it is. It's the first
Speaker 3: week of my program.
Speaker 2: You learn a bunch of manual tools to quiet your
Speaker 2: mind manually, and then I gave I created two breathwork exercises.
Speaker 3: Ones of grounding exercise get rid of a headache, and.
Speaker 2: The other one is the most powerful uh breathwork technique.
Speaker 3: That I've learned in along my way, and.
Speaker 2: It bubbles up all of your anxiety. For about the
Speaker 2: first ten minutes, you'll want to stop breathing and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, coom, it's gone.
Speaker 3: It's like a plane going through a cloud.
Speaker 2: And then you for the next twenty minutes you can't
Speaker 2: have a negative thought.
Speaker 3: It's the most amazing.
Speaker 2: Thing that I that I've that I've experienced by manually
Speaker 2: altering my state of consciousness.
Speaker 3: And it's I'm giving it to everybody for free.
Speaker 2: It takes about thirty minutes to do that exercise, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I just wanted everybody to have that for free.
Speaker 3: If you follow that link.
Speaker 1: Awesome, all right, we'll have that linked up here at
Speaker 1: the show notes page at the Trauma Therapist Podcast dot com,
Speaker 1: along with your website, learn to Love Being You dot com.
Speaker 3: That's correct, okay, uh.
Speaker 1: Instagram as well. Mike, you're a pretty amazing person. Your
Speaker 1: story is incredible and it's just so inspiring.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it's so inspiring, you know, just
Speaker 1: to to from you from that image of you just
Speaker 1: as a young kid thinking what you're unlovable, you're not
Speaker 1: as smart as everyone else, on and on and on, yeah,
Speaker 1: to switching things. I think we all can just be
Speaker 1: so inspired by that. Loved it, loved meeting you.
Speaker 2: And thank you for spreading the word the way you do.
Speaker 2: Like I've listened to your show and it is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2: You're doing the good work and every one of your
Speaker 2: shows is helping people find peace, and you were doing
Speaker 2: the good.
Speaker 3: Work, sir.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. All right, sir, we'll be in touch.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: All right, take care