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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Trauma Therapists podcast. My name is Gimick

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<v Speaker 1>person I interview incredible people who've dedicated their lives to

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<v Speaker 1>helping those who've been impacted by trauma. A big thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to our sponsors and our guests who are supporting

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<v Speaker 1>this show. So five four three two one, our folks,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the podcast. Super excited to have as

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<v Speaker 1>my guest today, Mike Wood. Mike welcome, Thank you, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for having me awesome. So, Mike spent over thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years living with anxiety and depression before making the decision

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<v Speaker 1>to go all in on his own healing. What came

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<v Speaker 1>out of that journey is Learned to Love Being You,

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<v Speaker 1>a ten week program built around the tools and practices

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<v Speaker 1>that actually worked for him breathwork, meditation, mindset, and emotional healing.

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<v Speaker 1>His approach isn't clinical, it's personal, practical and grounded and

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<v Speaker 1>lives experience. Today, He's on a mission to help others

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<v Speaker 1>find the same piece he spent most of his life

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. Mike, just a little bit about you before

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<v Speaker 1>going share with our listeners where you're from originally and

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<v Speaker 1>where you are currently, and then we'll dive in.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in California, and after high school, I

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Tennessee and that's where I've been living for

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<v Speaker 2>the last thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So thirty thirty years, as it says in

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<v Speaker 1>your bio, living with anxiety, knowing something's going on, depression.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think a lot of people can. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just relate to that. Talk to us,

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<v Speaker 1>take us back. How did all this start?

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, now on the other side of it,

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<v Speaker 3>I know where it started. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I had some childhood trauma with my with my dad

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<v Speaker 2>leaving when I was you know, one and a half

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<v Speaker 2>years old. But the biggest thing that was that caused

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<v Speaker 2>abandonment issues that I was able to deal with later.

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<v Speaker 2>But the bigger issue for me was I didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>had a rare four of dyslexia. I still do and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't learn how to read past the second grade

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<v Speaker 2>level until I was twenty five years old. So at

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<v Speaker 2>a very early age, I got into an elevated emotional

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<v Speaker 2>state with a clear intention, and that clear intention was

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<v Speaker 2>that I wasn't as.

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<v Speaker 3>Smart as everybody else. I was dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>And so here come those thoughts every day from the

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through the future. Up to the point

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<v Speaker 2>when I was or forty seven years old, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went back and rewrote all of that, those negative thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>that we all have that haunt us, that cause our anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually coming from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coming from a root cause.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was able to learn how to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to those root causes and.

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<v Speaker 3>Get rid of them, basically removed them.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was just that was we'll get there. You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're jumping way ahead. You're giving You're just giving us

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<v Speaker 1>that thirty thousand fit big perspective. But I want details

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<v Speaker 1>and old I want to ask you a question. What's

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<v Speaker 1>this rare form of dyslexia?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's hereditary And it didn't get diagnosed in me

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<v Speaker 2>until I was about, i want to say, about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old, when my son had dyslexia and we

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<v Speaker 2>sent them to the University of Middle Tennessee and they

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosed him and they said, this is a rare form,

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<v Speaker 2>it's typically hereditary. And I'm at that point, I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>in tears because I'm passing this on to him. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>they were talking about with him was the same, and

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<v Speaker 2>my child after him as well, my last two kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I have six kids, and the last two both have

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They're struggling with reading.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting them helping, you know, but when my time,

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't any help.

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<v Speaker 1>So you grew up. You're struggling what academically? Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking you're not as smart? How does that? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you manage that? How does how do you deal with that?

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<v Speaker 3>So you hide it?

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<v Speaker 1>All?

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<v Speaker 3>Is what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I hit behind the kid in front of me in class,

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<v Speaker 3>Read out loud. I did all my homework.

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<v Speaker 2>I scanned for keywords and was able to do all

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<v Speaker 2>my homework, virtually failed every test, got out of school

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<v Speaker 2>with c's and d's. It was it was a struggle,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was I did it alone. I did it hiding,

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<v Speaker 2>and it created a lot of tools that I'm able

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<v Speaker 2>to use in business, and it gave me a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, figure it.

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<v Speaker 3>Out skills, right, But at the end of the day, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also created a lot of negative core beliefs within me

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<v Speaker 2>that that haunted me for years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>So you failed every test, you get into high school,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that? What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, and so they put me in the

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<v Speaker 2>lower level classes so the basic stuff you know. In reality,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm very intelligent, but I had to learn how

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<v Speaker 2>to scan for keywords when I'm reading the test.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't comprehend a paragraph.

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<v Speaker 2>I could read one sentence at a time, but by

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<v Speaker 2>the time I read the second sentence, I couldn't remember

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<v Speaker 2>what the first sentence said, and so I would have

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<v Speaker 2>to just scan for keywords. And I just I just

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<v Speaker 2>use little tricks like that to get myself through every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really good at basketball, so I had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of coaches that taught history, helped me along the

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<v Speaker 2>way a little bit. Maybe maybe I should have got

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<v Speaker 2>a D. Maybe I ended up with a B. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually got a little love from one teacher. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a high school basketball coach. But in reality, I just struggled. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a it was a it was a very

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<v Speaker 2>challenging time for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm imagining low self esteem, low self worth. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you do you have friends? Are you hanging out? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I very introverted, and so I have a big I

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<v Speaker 2>had a family full of brothers, so I invertally got.

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<v Speaker 3>Around their friends and people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't a complete invert introvert, but I and

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<v Speaker 2>I also played a lot of sports, so I made

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<v Speaker 2>friends through sports. But as far as the social life,

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<v Speaker 2>going to somebody else's house or then coming to my house,

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<v Speaker 2>and now, none of that happened because I was just

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<v Speaker 2>I was terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know how to communicate with people. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was, it was. It was a kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>challenging experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So was anyone your parents looking at you saying, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>we got what's up? We gotta maybe we got to

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<v Speaker 1>get this kid some help or or what.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't know, they didn't know it. Wow, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, my dad was gone, so he was

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<v Speaker 2>not in the picture. My mom was doing the best

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<v Speaker 2>she could to raise three kids, all with government assistants.

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<v Speaker 3>She had a job, but that wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 2>So we you know, all of our meals were through

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<v Speaker 2>government assistants through the school. You know, she she did

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<v Speaker 2>the best she could to keep up with us and

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<v Speaker 2>keep us clothed and fed. And you know, so, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really have much support from home, and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>really understood what I was going.

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<v Speaker 1>Through, to be honest, So high school, college.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I wish I could have because I could

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<v Speaker 2>have played college basketball. But I actually went in my

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<v Speaker 2>junior I went to Analov Valley Junior High or junior college,

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<v Speaker 2>and I flunked out my first semester.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the tricks that I had in the past, they

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<v Speaker 3>weren't going to carry me through the way college flowed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you actually had to be able to read

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<v Speaker 3>It was going, there was no way I could keep up.

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<v Speaker 2>So I basically flunked out in my first semester and

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do after that?

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<v Speaker 3>You move on to what manual labor? Right? Manual labor?

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<v Speaker 2>Just anything that I could, you know, because I did

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<v Speaker 3>I was able to solve problems I could. I was

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<v Speaker 3>a hard worker.

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<v Speaker 2>I became a very hard worker to overcompensate for what

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<v Speaker 2>I deemed as lack of intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't want anybody to see, but I could. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I could hang us sign faster than anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I could shovel asphalt faster than anybody, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>an athlete by by just naturally gifted, and and so

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<v Speaker 2>I just excelled physically.

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<v Speaker 3>In a lot of those areas on until.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my mid thirties, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing I had a shovel in my hand until I

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty five years old, and then I moved into

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<v Speaker 3>And I struggled at first, but math was always easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like math I was able to do in my head

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So that the gift, right, you know, the yin and

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<v Speaker 2>yang of everything, you know, doing math in your head.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I found my way, yeah, through hard work

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<v Speaker 2>and found an estimating job, and then you know, moved

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<v Speaker 1>So well, let's get let's get to this. How do

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<v Speaker 1>how do things unfold such that you figure out or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe say to yourself, I need to get some help

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<v Speaker 1>with reading or what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>So I knew that I couldn't read, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of those government things like self help

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<v Speaker 2>for adults adult Reading basically said hey, just start reading

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<v Speaker 2>the newspaper at once a day, you know, every day,

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<v Speaker 3>Get through it. So I did. I had a job

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<v Speaker 3>where I was pulling out land closures, on.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so embarrassed at twenty five that I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>I just learned on my own.

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<v Speaker 3>I just started reading the newspaper every day, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then before long I made it past the first page,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So at what point do you say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start putting this program together. How how

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<v Speaker 1>does it you go from sitting in your car reading

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<v Speaker 1>USA Today to this?

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<v Speaker 3>So what happened was I started getting success.

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<v Speaker 2>I got in that office and got that job, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I left that job after about five years, went

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<v Speaker 2>to another one as a construction manager, and I thought

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<v Speaker 3>I doubled my salary, I'm making good money.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife was able to quit working, and it made

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<v Speaker 2>me happy for a while, but it was short lived.

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<v Speaker 3>I leave there. I come to where I currently have

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<v Speaker 2>At Jarrett Company's become the COO of a company. We

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<v Speaker 1>A hold on, hold, excuse me, but are you able

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<v Speaker 2>I can read now, but you can get by a

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<v Speaker 3>Reading comprehension is still not the best.

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<v Speaker 3>And made myself valuable in other ways where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So if I had to read a contract for a

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<v Speaker 3>I reached a place.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I had achieved everything in the outside world and

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<v Speaker 1>And those negative voices were saying, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's going to find out, You're stupid, that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you deal with that? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>And and that was how I kind of came out

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<v Speaker 3>If if we went back fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Years and I tried to have this conversation with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I would stutter. I would I would have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of uh, just involuntary things happening in

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<v Speaker 1>Was there any thought at any time, I need to

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to just tough it up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>You just get back in the game. You can't. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was that was what I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>To do, all right, So take us to where You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start helping other people when, but when did

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<v Speaker 1>you start helping yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was forty five years old, fort yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, I stopped looking outward and I turned inward.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when I started.

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<v Speaker 2>When I started walking Why, Because I realized that there

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<v Speaker 2>getting the next job making more money doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had more money than I needed.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a house, I had the wife, I had

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<v Speaker 2>the best friend. I had all of these things, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was still as miserable as I ever was. And

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, what was happening is those voices were getting

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<v Speaker 3>I was more miserable with all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told my boss when I really hit that

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<v Speaker 2>breaking point, I told him I was going to quiet

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<v Speaker 2>my mind by any means necessary, because honestly, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I wanted to continue living the way that

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<v Speaker 2>I was, and I had everything that I thought would

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<v Speaker 2>make me happy, So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>So I turned my focus inward and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Found a few things Tony Robbins video here, and everything started.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do ten fifteen minute meditations and I would

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<v Speaker 2>feel a moment of wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel good for five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel good for ten minutes, and I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's something I'm going to follow that pathway.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when something happened. I kept going and it

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<v Speaker 2>The point where I was consuming on audible ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen books a month. I was meditating for two to

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<v Speaker 1>And then I and you're married at this point, yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have kids twenty two years Yeah, okay, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I dove in big time. Guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been a hard worker, and I took all

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<v Speaker 2>that hard work that I was spreading everywhere else and

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<v Speaker 2>I just turned it all inward. I mean even now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on me. I just put it all inward.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started exploring things like reiki healing. I learned

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<v Speaker 2>how to do reiki healing. I went to any modality

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<v Speaker 2>that I could figure out, and I stumbled astar guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Chris Hancock in Franklin, Tennessee therapy outside the Box,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started going to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason I went to him is.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he he had something called energy healing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea what it was. But at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>after about two years of working on my own, I

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<v Speaker 2>started to realize if I put a crystal in my hand,

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<v Speaker 2>that I could feel the energy in my hand and

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<v Speaker 2>that focus on my hand would turn my brain off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started using that as a tool, and I

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<v Speaker 2>started playing with the energy in my hand and my chakras.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I heard about him, I was like energy healing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in. I'm just gonna try it.

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<v Speaker 1>And hang on. So I got this. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>title of your book from shoveling my hand to a

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<v Speaker 1>crystal in my hand. Exactly how seriously you got the crystaling?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever think you'd be sitting there with a

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<v Speaker 1>crystal in your hand? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought something, be crazy? You send me to the

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<v Speaker 3>learning farm like no. And when I rarely tell people

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<v Speaker 3>that because they do thing. What are you talking about that?

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<v Speaker 2>But because not everybody puts a crystal in their hand

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<v Speaker 2>and they could feel it vibrate.

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<v Speaker 3>But for whatever reason, I could, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>And there's certain type of crystals that vibrate at a

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<v Speaker 3>I carry it around with me everywhere when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Go into meetings here tense, and I would put those

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<v Speaker 2>in my hand and it would quiet my mind and

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<v Speaker 2>I could be present, you know, because the noise in

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<v Speaker 2>my head would stop when I would think about this

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<v Speaker 2>because you can't have two focuses.

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<v Speaker 3>When the mind is idle, it could just go wherever

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<v Speaker 2>But when I have focus on this energy in my

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<v Speaker 2>hand at least partial, now I'm able to be present

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<v Speaker 2>with you and everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>After a while, I didn't need them anymore. I could

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<v Speaker 3>just feel it while I'm pointing out my hand.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm doing this, I could feel the energies in

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<v Speaker 2>my hand even as a practice, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a tool. It's nothing crazy about it, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>a magnificent tool to just quiet the mind. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was my ultimate goal is I realized my mind was

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that was causing all of my pain. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't anything out in the world, it was what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on in my mind. And that's where Chris came

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<v Speaker 2>in and we started going backwards and healing the things

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<v Speaker 2>that were causing the voices right, And so that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling that story a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I got ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I went back to five year old Mike

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<v Speaker 2>in the kindergarten class, when I first learned that I

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<v Speaker 2>she asked me to spell Mike, and I noticed because

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<v Speaker 2>of her frustrations, I started paying attention. All the other

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<v Speaker 2>little agitated, which got me excited, which opens up the

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<v Speaker 2>subconscious mind to be programmed and then the clear intention

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<v Speaker 2>of being dumb. But what's great about the subconscious mind

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<v Speaker 2>is it has no concept of time and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand the difference between.

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<v Speaker 3>Reality and a pursuit reality.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm able to go back with my imagination to

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<v Speaker 2>that moment right now, reframe that whole situation with compassion

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<v Speaker 3>Forgive her because she didn't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with all the students and myself, and my

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<v Speaker 2>a core memory, and it'll just move it.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'd like to say, put it in the love bucket.

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<v Speaker 2>And now those negative thoughts from that day they don't

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<v Speaker 3>Show up anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because the subconscious mind's number one job is to

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<v Speaker 2>protect us, and that's what it's trying to do. It's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to hold onto that memory and scan constantly to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure we never experience that negative that negative thing again.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the beautiful thing is we can just go

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<v Speaker 2>back and rewrite it. It's it's absolutely amazing and liberating.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what this is kind of, or the

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote therapy that you were working on, yes with

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<v Speaker 1>that individual. And when you started to work with him,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you start to see or feel or experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it was just literating because for a

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<v Speaker 2>week at a time, the noises in my head would

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<v Speaker 3>Would come back.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I started to feel that, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all in, I can't even afford to go to

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, but I am going to keep going every

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<v Speaker 2>week and I'm gonna keep doing this. And what happened

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<v Speaker 2>was we worked through a handful of different types of

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<v Speaker 2>modalities that he teaches and I got to learn a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just kept going back and back and back.

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<v Speaker 2>And like one of the early ones that was it

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<v Speaker 3>But like compliments, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Realized that whenever I receive a compliment, it would make

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<v Speaker 2>me feel gross.

436
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<v Speaker 3>It would make me feel like a fraud if they

437
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<v Speaker 3>were giving it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if I accepted the compliment like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing, then I felt like I was you know,

440
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<v Speaker 2>like the whole thing was just I didn't like a compliment.

441
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<v Speaker 2>And so we worked on that one day and then

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<v Speaker 2>I mean within two hours of me walking out of

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<v Speaker 2>that session, somebody gave me a compliment and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just able to say thank you, and I had no

445
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<v Speaker 2>physical response to it, like I didn't get high low,

446
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<v Speaker 2>and I was.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Like, wait, something is happening here.

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<v Speaker 2>The physical reactions that I had in my daily life

449
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<v Speaker 2>started going away, and I was able to respond to

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<v Speaker 2>situations instead of having a physical reaction, and those physical

451
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<v Speaker 2>reactions they're painful, right, And and that's where my life

452
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<v Speaker 2>just changed.

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<v Speaker 3>I just doub all in and about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say three years into the process, I created my

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<v Speaker 2>own writing exercise to do the same thing that we're

456
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<v Speaker 2>talking about here, to make it very easy for anyone

457
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<v Speaker 2>to do it. You know, you probably need to do

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<v Speaker 2>it with somebody the first time or the set and

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<v Speaker 2>first one or two times, but after that, anybody could

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<v Speaker 2>do it for the rest of their life and never

461
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<v Speaker 2>have to pay anybody to help them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's as we let's talk about you and your

463
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<v Speaker 1>program and this crazy Mike. I mean, your your story

464
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<v Speaker 1>really is just amazing, amazing, you were, uh what's the word.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if resilience sounds a little trite, but

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<v Speaker 1>your your your strength right to come here through. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome to come through this, like Jesus. So, at

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<v Speaker 1>what point did you get to the situation where you

469
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<v Speaker 1>were like, I want to start helping other people? What

470
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<v Speaker 1>did that look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'll tell you what got Would you get to

472
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<v Speaker 2>the other side of feeling how I was, and you

473
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<v Speaker 2>get to the other side where you're living most of

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<v Speaker 2>your days in a positive mind frame, where you feel

475
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<v Speaker 2>like you can just sit in this chair and be

476
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<v Speaker 2>happy and do nothing, not play on my phone. I could,

477
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<v Speaker 2>I could just sit here and be happy for no reason.

478
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<v Speaker 2>What happens is you start noticing all of the pain

479
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<v Speaker 2>and everyone else around you. You start to see the

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<v Speaker 2>hidden pain that I was hiding from, hiding from everyone

481
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<v Speaker 2>for so many years. Now I could see it in everyone,

482
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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was painful.

483
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<v Speaker 3>Right.

484
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<v Speaker 2>That awareness that I gained was painful, And it's just

485
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<v Speaker 2>a natural response. You see somebody broken down on the

486
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<v Speaker 2>side of the road, A lady gets out to change

487
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<v Speaker 2>your tire, like you've got to pull over there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a just a reaction, and that it's just a reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a physical reaction to seeing people in pain.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that I can help them, right, I

491
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<v Speaker 2>know that could change that old lady's tire. I know

492
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<v Speaker 2>that I could help.

493
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<v Speaker 1>So what did you do? How did you talk? Walk

494
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<v Speaker 1>us through you saying to yourself, I want to start

495
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<v Speaker 1>helping other people. I want to put a program together.

496
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<v Speaker 1>How do you what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>So what I did in the middle of my journey

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<v Speaker 2>with all of this, because writing was such a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing I did in my journey, it was

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote a book.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a golf book that I had helped somebody

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<v Speaker 2>through a golf swing.

503
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<v Speaker 3>But what it did is it also opened them up

504
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<v Speaker 3>to a whole other world.

505
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<v Speaker 2>So when I got to the other side of this

506
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<v Speaker 2>after that golf book, which two people had read, but

507
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<v Speaker 2>it was just a milestone for me. You know, it

508
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a publisher to the world. It was just

509
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<v Speaker 2>posted on Amazon and be done with it. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I had the idea when I created my own writing

511
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<v Speaker 2>exercise that I needed to write a book and share

512
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<v Speaker 2>this with the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And I spent about a year working on it and

514
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<v Speaker 3>the book. I sent it to one of the.

515
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<v Speaker 2>Most renowned editors in the in the United States and

516
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<v Speaker 2>in London, and they sent it back to me. I

517
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<v Speaker 2>paid them like five grand to review my book, and

518
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<v Speaker 2>they said, Mike, your book's dead on arrival. And they said,

519
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<v Speaker 2>you don't have an online platform and you don't have

520
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<v Speaker 2>social media following.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, Okay, put the book down, let's

522
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<v Speaker 3>go be here.

523
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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take what I had in my book

524
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<v Speaker 2>and let's create a program that's a great I I

525
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<v Speaker 2>want to actually help people. So I start working hard

526
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<v Speaker 2>developing a program, starting to organize things.

527
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<v Speaker 3>All right, what do people need to do? First? Second, third?

528
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<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, I had these beautiful people

529
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<v Speaker 2>show up and they're like, Mickey, you're working on this program.

530
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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing here? And I had seven people

531
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<v Speaker 3>show up and want to take it.

532
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<v Speaker 2>And it's it was they were they wanted to do it,

533
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<v Speaker 2>like you can't help anybody unless they want to help themselves.

534
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<v Speaker 2>And I had seven people randomly show up and want

535
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<v Speaker 2>to take this program. So we worked through it, and

536
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<v Speaker 2>with their guidance and everything, we went through it, and

537
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<v Speaker 2>every single one of their lives changed. Two of them

538
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<v Speaker 2>were on anxiety meds when they started it. Within two

539
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<v Speaker 2>weeks of starting it, we're off anxiety meds. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half since then, they're still not

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<v Speaker 2>taking anxiety meds.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm just like blown away how this is

543
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<v Speaker 3>all working.

544
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm rearranging things because we run into some roadblocks

545
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<v Speaker 2>and I get it all done.

546
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<v Speaker 3>I posted last June.

547
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<v Speaker 2>And now I'm in this marketing phase where I'm trying

548
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<v Speaker 2>to figure out how to help people. But the what

549
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<v Speaker 2>has happened with those first seven people changed my life.

550
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<v Speaker 2>It's just like holy moly. And I've got video testimonies

551
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<v Speaker 2>of how they all went through it. Some of them

552
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<v Speaker 2>are teaching the same stuff now that other people. It's

553
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<v Speaker 2>just that first seventh thing literally just altered my life

554
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<v Speaker 2>in a way that, you know, just filled me up

555
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<v Speaker 2>with love, and I just I can't wait to help

556
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<v Speaker 2>somebody else.

557
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<v Speaker 3>So now I take it to prisons.

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<v Speaker 2>I take it to a handful of places that that

559
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<v Speaker 2>people are willing because one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>big problems I had gut in the beginning when I

561
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<v Speaker 2>started doing this was I wanted to help everybody, and

562
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<v Speaker 2>I realized that you can't help anybody that doesn't want,

563
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<v Speaker 2>you know, doesn't want to help. So you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when I started exploring, like you know, maximum security prisons

565
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<v Speaker 2>and you know, these guys got nothing but time.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody in there has to want my help.

567
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<v Speaker 1>So what's the program called.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Learned to Love Being You?

569
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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And is it? What is it? Is it an

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<v Speaker 1>online program? A video program? What? Okay?

571
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<v Speaker 2>It's an online program with a bunch of power points

572
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<v Speaker 2>where basically just we walk you through everything.

573
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<v Speaker 3>It's very easy.

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<v Speaker 2>You also get instructions like on paper, and then you

575
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<v Speaker 2>get worksheets to walk you walk.

576
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<v Speaker 3>You through everything. And then also once a week we

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<v Speaker 3>have a group meeting where we can guide everybody through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And who is it for?

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<v Speaker 2>It's for anybody that's, you know, struggling with anxiety or depression.

580
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<v Speaker 2>You know, at whatever level, you know, you're dead and

581
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<v Speaker 2>everybody's different, but it's for anybody struggling with anxiety and depression.

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<v Speaker 1>Do people get time with you during this?

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<v Speaker 2>They can, Yeah, you know they absolutely can so uh

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<v Speaker 2>and that's honestly the most beneficial way to work through

585
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<v Speaker 2>the So everybody that takes it, I try to make time,

586
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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I'm not trying to make money.

587
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<v Speaker 3>I truly not I needed to make I need this

588
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<v Speaker 3>course to.

589
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<v Speaker 2>Be expensive, but I'm having people tell me to charge

590
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<v Speaker 2>a lot more, but I'm just like, no, I want

591
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<v Speaker 2>everybody to be able to afford it. It's five hundred bucks,

592
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<v Speaker 2>but it gives you tools that you won't have to

593
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<v Speaker 2>go back to the therapists anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. That's where it gets you. The cycle. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we show up at the therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>We go every week, and then you know, we're there

597
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<v Speaker 2>twelve years later, and I don't know if we're better.

598
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<v Speaker 2>We know more about ourselves and more educated, but we've

599
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<v Speaker 2>not healed anything. And I think some I'm noticing that

600
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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of therapists that do a lot of

601
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<v Speaker 2>good and they're using tools that are helping people in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different ways. But I really want to

603
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<v Speaker 2>see people go to the root of things and be

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<v Speaker 2>able to heal at the core of where it comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>And the voices in your head are coming from somewhere, right,

606
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<v Speaker 2>and we have control of a percent of that, and

607
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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to just settle like, oh, here's, here's

608
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<v Speaker 2>a here's there's this negative thing that happened to me

609
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<v Speaker 2>in my past.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have to haunt us.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's a there's a manual way to remove it,

612
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<v Speaker 2>and there's lots of other modalities.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I created isn't unique to me.

614
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<v Speaker 2>The Buddhists have been doing this for twenty five hundred years,

615
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<v Speaker 2>and there's all different types of ways to do this.

616
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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a d MR, there's hypnote therapy, there's

617
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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of different modalities that go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the root cause, reframe it, remove it and it and

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<v Speaker 2>then it stops haunting you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mike, how do people learn more about you

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<v Speaker 1>and more about your course? It's the best way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So one thing, guy, I want to say thank

623
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<v Speaker 2>you for having me on and I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>your your uh, your audience a gift.

625
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

626
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<v Speaker 3>It just tells them on this process.

627
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<v Speaker 2>And so the way you guys can find me is

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<v Speaker 2>m would at or m would good mindset dot com

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<v Speaker 2>backslash what a therapist?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Is that? What is in your name in your

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<v Speaker 3>title of your podcast?

632
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<v Speaker 1>Right, Uh yeah, trauma therapist podcast.

633
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so backslash therapist. I got okay said trauma,

634
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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's definitely therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>So once again mwoodmindset dot com slash therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, okay, and what it is. It's the first

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<v Speaker 3>week of my program.

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<v Speaker 2>You learn a bunch of manual tools to quiet your

639
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<v Speaker 2>mind manually, and then I gave I created two breathwork exercises.

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<v Speaker 3>Ones of grounding exercise get rid of a headache, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one is the most powerful uh breathwork technique.

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<v Speaker 3>That I've learned in along my way, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It bubbles up all of your anxiety. For about the

644
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<v Speaker 2>first ten minutes, you'll want to stop breathing and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, coom, it's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a plane going through a cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you for the next twenty minutes you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have a negative thought.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing that I that I've that I've experienced by manually

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<v Speaker 2>altering my state of consciousness.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's I'm giving it to everybody for free.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes about thirty minutes to do that exercise, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted everybody to have that for free.

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<v Speaker 3>If you follow that link.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, all right, we'll have that linked up here at

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes page at the Trauma Therapist Podcast dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>along with your website, learn to Love Being You dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct, okay, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram as well. Mike, you're a pretty amazing person. Your

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<v Speaker 1>story is incredible and it's just so inspiring.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's it's it's so inspiring, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>to to from you from that image of you just

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<v Speaker 1>as a young kid thinking what you're unlovable, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>as smart as everyone else, on and on and on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to switching things. I think we all can just be

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<v Speaker 1>so inspired by that. Loved it, loved meeting you.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you for spreading the word the way you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've listened to your show and it is absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing the good work and every one of your

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<v Speaker 2>shows is helping people find peace, and you were doing

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<v Speaker 2>the good.

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<v Speaker 3>Work, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. All right, sir, we'll be in touch.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, take care