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Speaker 1: Eric Glad you're here three h three someone three eight
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Speaker 1: seven three nine. Thank you to the sheriff, Sheriff Steve
Speaker 1: Reims and Heidiganol for filling in while I was once
Speaker 1: again in court and very grateful for that. Feels like
Speaker 1: I've been gone one hundred years and so much happens,
Speaker 1: isn't it amazing? I mean compared to maybe even ten
Speaker 1: years ago. So much happens in any twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven cycle. And why because there is a twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven cycle, and everybody competing for power, everybody competing
Speaker 1: for whatever it is they want to obtain, whether it's
Speaker 1: a good thing or a bad thing.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's having to.
Speaker 1: Fill that cycle so they keep the edge and the
Speaker 1: other guy doesn't get it. So wow, you miss a day,
Speaker 1: You miss a lot. Wasn't that like forty years ago?
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Speaker 2: Seven three nine. Well, start anywhere.
Speaker 1: You want to, because I haven't talked about any of
Speaker 1: this on air for three days, and you know, I
Speaker 1: want to lead personally with this Epstein thing. I know
Speaker 1: we've got some hot stuff locally, so I want to
Speaker 1: check in with Ryan on that before we go to Epstein.
Speaker 1: But this Epstein thing, it intrigues me. But I think
Speaker 1: it's a very important moment we're in and it has
Speaker 1: to be handled right for lots of different reasons.
Speaker 2: My good friend Ryan, how you doing last time I
Speaker 2: saw you?
Speaker 3: I wasn't Gonnau.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, since before the Independence Day holiday for sure.
Speaker 2: Crazy that good job not seeing fourth of July.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Independence Day. We got to keep that all
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, And I was at the Convert Independence Day
Speaker 4: parade and my small hometown of Grass Lake is always
Speaker 4: really neat.
Speaker 2: To you the honor up there on the flow, No booddy.
Speaker 4: It was my high school baseball teammate and class of
Speaker 4: ninety two classmate, Roger Cook, who is the head coach
Speaker 4: of the Grasslake Warriors girls softball team, first time ever
Speaker 4: state champions.
Speaker 2: Wonderful they should be. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, let me get your quick take on something
Speaker 1: before I go to this Epstein thing, which I'm just
Speaker 1: dying to talk about. I've been following in the news
Speaker 1: as best I can when you're doing trial prep and
Speaker 1: everything else. I've I've been following these accusations, you know,
Speaker 1: against state Representative Ron Weinberg. And now did he come
Speaker 1: on with you or with or with share for.
Speaker 2: With Heidi over the last few days.
Speaker 4: No, there appears to be a legal barrier, which you'd
Speaker 4: be very familiar with, but an adviceive counsel. He has
Speaker 4: not come on to do a live interview.
Speaker 1: And I just want to make the point. This isn't
Speaker 1: judging the representative one way or the other. But but
Speaker 1: that is not a legal barrier in the sense that
Speaker 1: he can that's a decision not to right and so
Speaker 1: but I just wondered whether he had And so I
Speaker 1: understand now if I have the lay of the land right,
Speaker 1: You've got a couple of women who've been very active
Speaker 1: in GOP circles who are claiming this this inappropriate kind
Speaker 1: of conduct, including you know, telling one of the women
Speaker 1: with her husband there, I'm gonna blank your wife, right.
Speaker 1: And then there's this allegation now from Representative Brandy Bradley
Speaker 1: as well, I'll play that sound okay.
Speaker 5: Well, I went to leadership about my own problems with
Speaker 5: Representative Weinberger. I wasn't going to air that dirty laundry,
Speaker 5: and they told me to file a workplace harassment against him,
Speaker 5: and that was the only thing that I could do.
Speaker 5: I have plenty more to say. I'm going to wait
Speaker 5: and go to those proper channels. But Carolyn Wantberg sat
Speaker 5: there and listened to her husband discuss jobs on another
Speaker 5: representative that was at the table the last night's session,
Speaker 5: and then talked about another representative who was waiting for
Speaker 5: marriage to have intimate relations and she wasn't even at
Speaker 5: the table. So for Carolyn to sit there and stand
Speaker 5: by her man, which he has heard these things come forward,
Speaker 5: will I am not going to sit here and let
Speaker 5: her go nuclear on me and pretent like I am
Speaker 5: the reason for his bad behavior. I will not do it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: You've been all over this while I've been off to
Speaker 1: I legal stuff. You've been all over this. What's your
Speaker 1: take on it.
Speaker 4: Well, the clip prior to that, I think I've loaded
Speaker 4: for you might be number one there and that pretty
Speaker 4: much tells the entire story.
Speaker 1: Okay from the beginning. Now I thought I just played one.
Speaker 1: Are we talking about two?
Speaker 3: Jacqueline? Is that in there?
Speaker 2: Oh? Jacqueline's three?
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, yep, absolutely he's been inappropriate me and the
Speaker 5: people are standing behind them.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that was worth listening to.
Speaker 3: Jacqueline Anderson is the name?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Am I a practice a little bit? A little bit.
Speaker 6: When we my husband and I both were a part
Speaker 6: of the leadership program of the Rockies. I was class
Speaker 6: of twenty one in which Ron was our class president.
Speaker 6: My husband is class of twenty t twenty two. So
Speaker 6: the two incidents in my victim statement reports were both
Speaker 6: at events hosted by LPR. We you know, similar to this. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: it's one of those thingshere. Fortunately, I would say I
Speaker 6: wasn't sexually assaulted. It wasn't like he physically did anything
Speaker 6: to me, so it wasn't anything I felt like I
Speaker 6: could report to the police and have anything done about it.
Speaker 6: But similar if you're being harassed at work, you take
Speaker 6: it to your HR. So when I heard of some
Speaker 6: incidences happening. In twenty twenty two, my husband and I
Speaker 6: decided to go forward and deal and speak with LPR leadership,
Speaker 6: bring forward to them the attention of what had been happening,
Speaker 6: you know, with his harassments, and at that time they
Speaker 6: had a zoom call with us and they had told
Speaker 6: us that they had decided the disciplinary action for Ron
Speaker 6: would be that he would be no longer allowed to
Speaker 6: attend any future LPR events. And at that time we
Speaker 6: felt that was satisfactory. You know, we could appreciate that
Speaker 6: we don't have to be in any spaces with him,
Speaker 6: and that's great. So we just kind of moved on
Speaker 6: with our lives, you know. Unfortunate that, you know, it
Speaker 6: happens that you move on. Even though my husband and
Speaker 6: I have stepped out of the political space over the
Speaker 6: last few years and just led very quiet lives. I
Speaker 6: know a lot of people still in the space who
Speaker 6: are still fighting for our freedoms here in Colorado, and
Speaker 6: I respect that they do. But when I hear stories
Speaker 6: of young girls, young aids who are being harassed and
Speaker 6: afraid to come forward. And then when I had found
Speaker 6: out that he was running for whip, I said enough
Speaker 6: is enough, and sometimes we just need to go ahead
Speaker 6: and be bold and step forward and speak our truth
Speaker 6: and say this is what happened, and hope that people
Speaker 6: will feel safe and coming forward and telling their stories.
Speaker 6: And I got to tell you, there are people in
Speaker 6: our dms with information about their experience on the house
Speaker 6: floor and the offices, and they're very scared to come forward,
Speaker 6: and we're trying to help them, you know, be able
Speaker 6: to do that in a safe space. But I'm tired
Speaker 6: of hearing how how you know at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, Listen, there's definitely a culture of burying harassment
Speaker 6: in politics, and I'm just not willing to be complicit
Speaker 6: in that anymore. And so that's why I came forward
Speaker 6: with my statement two.
Speaker 1: Or three someone three eight two five five the number
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Speaker 1: you have any take on that, you know, I'll let
Speaker 1: me know. I hope the representative does join us at
Speaker 1: some point.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Quick addendum, So I was talking about this earlier today
Speaker 4: with Natalie Tenant, founder of Never Surrender. As this continues
Speaker 4: to unfold and Representative Weinberg texted Sheriff Steve Reims, who
Speaker 4: was talking about this to begin the week, and he
Speaker 4: denies the assertion that you just heard from Jaqueline Anderson
Speaker 4: that he was banned or barred or not welcome at
Speaker 4: LPR events. Now that may be a matter of semantics,
Speaker 4: but that was my understanding, and that's what Jacqueline said,
Speaker 4: and that was the resolution to her and her husband's
Speaker 4: satisfaction that that action was taken.
Speaker 3: Ron Weinberg denies that that's the case.
Speaker 1: So you know, subplot, everybody Steve, right, everybody talks to Steve.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a trusted source. That's a wonderful thing to
Speaker 1: be right. Yeah, okay, man a great integrity and yeah,
Speaker 1: quick note for context those who aren't familiar with it,
Speaker 1: I think most people are leadership program of the Rockies
Speaker 1: is awesome. But I was just sitting here thinking the
Speaker 1: last time I was at one of their annual dinners
Speaker 1: at the Broad Mart and it's just a great, great
Speaker 1: force for good in Colorado. But I don't remember it
Speaker 1: being so wild. I know it was a great event
Speaker 1: and really liked it and loved going with my wife.
Speaker 1: Had a chance to sit next to Laura Ingram at
Speaker 1: one of the dinners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's kind of cool. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 2: great chat.
Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, so if you have a take on
Speaker 1: all that, I'd be very interesting to see where it lands.
Speaker 1: And again, hope the representative will will join us at
Speaker 1: some point three or three someone three eight two five
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Speaker 1: H Dan and Ryan. If someone said I'm going to
Speaker 1: blank your wife, couldn't that be perceived as a threat
Speaker 1: of rape, therefore illegal, especially if it was said twice. See,
Speaker 1: I can't respond to that question because if somebody said
Speaker 1: that about my wife, there'd be nothing left to discuss, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that they would have taken their last breath and I'd
Speaker 1: be in a.
Speaker 2: Jail cell somewhere. So accurate, yeah, fair, Yeah, yeah, so wow,
Speaker 2: some of these we can't read. I thought this was
Speaker 2: a family show.
Speaker 3: It's tough with this topic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean you heard I had to bleep
Speaker 4: out something, Representative Bradley said, Yeah, based on the characterization
Speaker 4: of something she heard Ron Weinberg say, at least according
Speaker 4: to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you bleeped it very well, you
Speaker 1: don't think I did. I think we all heard that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you heard that, I mean and did. There's no FCC
Speaker 1: thing here because you, I mean, you don't have to
Speaker 1: bleep that you were doing it to respect the sensitivities
Speaker 1: of our audience. Correct, Yeah, referring to certain acts acts, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we all got the gist of it. Unless
Speaker 1: there are other acts identified by two initials two letters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're going off the rails.
Speaker 1: But it is the perfect time to come back and
Speaker 1: talk about Epstein because this thing is really important and
Speaker 1: it just.
Speaker 2: Goes back to the point, no human endeavor is perfect. Right.
Speaker 1: We have a presidency right now that that is going
Speaker 1: as well or better than any presidency in my young lifetime,
Speaker 1: and yet it's never going to be perfect. But this
Speaker 1: Epstein thing, it's got to be fixed. Here on the
Speaker 1: Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, I.
Speaker 8: Talked to President Trump man and man eye to eye
Speaker 8: on Saint Patrick's Day about this and the Kennedy files
Speaker 8: and the King files. It was all one conversation and
Speaker 8: he said, and I agree. There are a lot of
Speaker 8: names associated with Epstein had nothing to do with Epstein's conduct.
Speaker 8: They maybe had lunch with him, or maybe had some
Speaker 8: correspondence for one thing or another. If that name gets out,
Speaker 8: those people are destroyed because it's not going to be
Speaker 8: any context. Media doesn't care about context.
Speaker 3: So you can't do that.
Speaker 8: You can't destroy human beings by putting out the files,
Speaker 8: whatever they may be. But you're certainly can have Attorney
Speaker 8: General BONDI. So this is what we know, and you
Speaker 8: know we're going to protect the innocent and he's a
Speaker 8: heinous individual.
Speaker 1: Yes, So what do you do? What should the process
Speaker 1: be here? And it doesn't that the administration has been
Speaker 1: great on a whole lot of stuff, right, but this
Speaker 1: one they have mishandled. So how do you straighten that
Speaker 1: out at this point? Because a few things are obviously true.
Speaker 1: One is that the public needs to know, they have
Speaker 1: a right to know about all bad actors associated with
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and innocent people who may have had contact
Speaker 1: with them, but there's no evidence whatsoever that they were supporting, advancing, promoting,
Speaker 1: engaged in any kind of crime. Well, those people need
Speaker 1: to be protected. That's the American way, innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 1: But this approach of just saying, hey, this is old news,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about it anymore.
Speaker 2: To me, that's not acceptable.
Speaker 1: And I don't know whether or not the American people
Speaker 1: are going to accept it, because I haven't seen maybe
Speaker 1: you have, Ryan, Again, I've been tied up in legal stuff,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen any good polling on whether the
Speaker 1: American people in general are concerned about this, it's hurting
Speaker 1: the president, etc. So I don't know whether it's going
Speaker 1: to become a political problem for the administration. I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about right and wrong, and right is what I
Speaker 1: just said.
Speaker 4: Well, I would venture and I could be going on
Speaker 4: a limb here, but I don't know that I am
Speaker 4: based on the reactions we've seen from so many on
Speaker 4: the right side of the political spectrum, and you have
Speaker 4: to believe that those on the left are going to
Speaker 4: be opportunistic and wanting to attack the president this issue,
Speaker 4: that this might be the one issue the Trump administration
Speaker 4: has stumbled upon. We're on the wrong side of an
Speaker 4: eighty twenty issue, or I think upwards of eighty percent
Speaker 4: of Americans want the truth released, exposed, revealed, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to say about it about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3: And who his clients were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very important to America that that happened on
Speaker 1: so many different levels, and one of those is just
Speaker 1: confidence in the system, right, just so important?
Speaker 2: But what process?
Speaker 1: Because right now it would have to be a politically
Speaker 1: created process. There's no legal process for that. So how
Speaker 1: do you carve that out politically? What would you like
Speaker 1: to see let's start with this three oh three seven
Speaker 1: three eight two five five text dam five seven seven
Speaker 1: three nine. What would you like to see President Trump
Speaker 1: do now with this? How should he go about handling this?
Speaker 1: I have some ideas on it, but yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: acceptable to just say no this this thing is going
Speaker 1: to go away now. In terms of Democrats, Ryan, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen any major Democrats getting on Trump on this.
Speaker 1: Is that because they suspect that a number of major
Speaker 1: Democrats were partaking of the criminal activity.
Speaker 4: It's a valid question right there too, Bill Clinton chief
Speaker 4: among them.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Have any prominent Democrats while I was in court, any
Speaker 1: prominent Democrats out there bashing Trump on Epstein?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. Maybe our listeners have.
Speaker 4: I have seen elements of the left, let's say, people
Speaker 4: that are have a presence on X oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of taking those political but like I said,
Speaker 4: they're opportunistic shots. It's an area of weakness for Trump.
Speaker 4: So of course, they're going to try to exploit it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm surprised, because obviously the left has
Speaker 1: been shameless when it comes to falsely accusing President Trump
Speaker 1: over the years, right, I mean, falsely accused of treason,
Speaker 1: et cetera.
Speaker 2: They've been shameless.
Speaker 1: So the fact that they've been and either totally quiet
Speaker 1: or relatively quiet on the Epstein thing tells me they
Speaker 1: want no part of that issue again, probably because they
Speaker 1: suspect major Democrats were committing crimes involving Epstein three or three,
Speaker 1: someone three to eight, two five, five texts, dam five, seventh,
Speaker 1: seventh or nineth one of the great texts of the year.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: These are the kind of textures we need. Dan I
Speaker 1: joined later. Are you the guest host for Steven Heidi today? Beautifully?
Speaker 2: Don got it? Yeah? Is that coming from management? Might be? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: couldn't blame him.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like remember the later years of Johnny Carson,
Speaker 4: Like in the early nineties before he went off the air,
Speaker 4: and Bette Midler was his final guest and Jay Leno
Speaker 4: would fill in like four days of the week, and
Speaker 4: Johnny would just kind of show up for one of
Speaker 4: the shows.
Speaker 2: Why do you think Bette Midler was the final guest.
Speaker 3: I don't know she's saying to him, though, I remember that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, but all right, what about your run
Speaker 4: of trials?
Speaker 3: Here? Dan, are you done yet? Are you through the gauntlet?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man got a month on trial start September second, But
Speaker 1: I won't have any more now between now and then,
Speaker 1: So except for an occasional day here and there, God willing, right,
Speaker 1: Chris Berman, we're all day to day. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: expect to be on air every day now until that
Speaker 1: next trial starts September second. Very good, but that'll be
Speaker 1: a month. Yeah, that'll be a month.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we better get these all stars lined up now.
Speaker 3: Katie bar the door.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Where does that expression come from?
Speaker 3: I think it's Canadian? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those things that intrigues me
Speaker 1: and nobody else. Every time we get a singe like that,
Speaker 1: I'm always wondering what is the origin of that? Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's obvious, and what appears obvious is wrong. So Epstein,
Speaker 1: how do we go about doing this right? There's no
Speaker 1: way through the legal system right now to be able
Speaker 1: to get this balance struck where we need the truth
Speaker 1: who else was involved in these heinous, demonic, illegal activities
Speaker 1: while protecting the innocent. And if you disagree with the premise,
Speaker 1: if you think that, hey, it doesn't matter if somebody
Speaker 1: dealt with Epstein, it doesn't matter if it was on
Speaker 1: something related this, this, that that all of it has
Speaker 1: to be exposed and let them defend themselves. I'm not
Speaker 1: from that school, you know. I'm from the school of
Speaker 1: fundamental fairness, the golden rule. Treat the other guy or
Speaker 1: gale the way you want to be treated. And so
Speaker 1: the people who did wrong in connection with Epstein, they've
Speaker 1: got to be out it. It's not acceptable that that
Speaker 1: just be buried at this point, no matter where it leads. Well,
Speaker 1: but the innocent people they need to be protected because
Speaker 1: you know how it is when when it comes to
Speaker 1: a false allegation or implication of any sexual impropriety, you know,
Speaker 1: you get the death penalty before you get the hearing,
Speaker 1: and you get the execution before you.
Speaker 2: Get the trial.
Speaker 4: And what do you make of Alan Dershowitz, one time
Speaker 4: attorney for Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3: We have that sound too, where he's like, no, release
Speaker 3: it all.
Speaker 4: I was unfairly implicated, and I know it'll be exculpatory
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. The amazing thing is I actually plan to
Speaker 2: play that at least one of them is somebody who
Speaker 2: was accused.
Speaker 9: Others are accusers, and the judges have said if somebody
Speaker 9: calls themselves act a victim, we're not going to give
Speaker 9: any information about them.
Speaker 2: But they may not be victims, they may be perpetrators.
Speaker 2: So we don't have information about false accusers.
Speaker 9: And we know there have been many false accusers who
Speaker 9: have accused innocent people from money, and those records are
Speaker 9: being deliberately, wilfully suppressed and they shouldn't be suppressed. If
Speaker 9: the accusation is allowed out, so should the material that
Speaker 9: diminishes the credibility of the accuser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've got an idea. I want to kick
Speaker 2: it around with you when I come back.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of ground to cover, including a
Speaker 1: very sad, unfortunate that I told you so. Remember when
Speaker 1: we all talked about polish in the left pushing this
Speaker 1: under this green you know, ideology, pushing this insane you
Speaker 1: know lane filtering in Colorado.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that too on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 7: You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 10: The Door, I'd say we're forty years of broken dreams.
Speaker 2: You're on your way.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Katie about the door thing, but that's
Speaker 1: very suspect.
Speaker 3: Music really suspect.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it. I mean, does that just age everybody twenty years?
Speaker 2: Is it not real? No?
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, it just isn't good. No,
Speaker 1: that's not on you. You're just looking for Katie Barbee.
Speaker 1: Not only that, Kelly has an answer for us.
Speaker 2: Not where it came from, beautiful, I do so.
Speaker 11: It says it's likely originates from a traditional Scottish ballad
Speaker 11: and a legend about Catherine Douglas, a lady and waiting
Speaker 11: to the Scottish Queen. The legend tells of Catherine Douglas
Speaker 11: famously barricading a door with her arm to protect King
Speaker 11: James the first from assassins. According to The New York Times, must.
Speaker 2: Have been weak assassins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you saying about, Katie?
Speaker 2: If if one person's arm and then I'm glad it worked.
Speaker 2: I assume it worked. I hope it worked.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Speaking of w which is there going
Speaker 1: to be any formal commemoration of the miracle.
Speaker 2: At Butler.
Speaker 1: Oh, what do you mean, like the coming up on
Speaker 1: that No, no, no, but we're coming up on the anniversary.
Speaker 1: I don't think it should be ignored. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think everybody can agree. It's one of the most
Speaker 1: important events in American political history when you stop and
Speaker 1: think about, truly the miraculous way that Trump's life was saved,
Speaker 1: his immediate heroic response, which revealed character in a way
Speaker 1: that really nothing else can a heroic response that that
Speaker 1: day sealed his second term, which has enormous positive consequences
Speaker 1: for America in the world, And that what would have
Speaker 1: happened to this country if God forbid the assassin, whether
Speaker 1: sent by Iran or a lone wolf or whatever, if
Speaker 1: that assassin had succeeded. Now, let me throw that out
Speaker 1: there for you three or three someone three eight two
Speaker 1: five five texts d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 1: As you know, I personally believe that there was divine
Speaker 1: intervention in that Butler field. I can't prove it, can't
Speaker 1: be certain of it. That's just my belief. I, you know,
Speaker 1: hope to someday. No, but one way or the other,
Speaker 1: what do you think America looks like today, if God forbid,
Speaker 1: that assassin had succeeded, which the assassin was within a
Speaker 1: millisecond of doing one slight had turned away. Now, what
Speaker 1: would the world look like today? What would America look
Speaker 1: like today? What would American politics look like today? What
Speaker 1: would have happened from that day forward? Short term back
Speaker 1: in July and August of twenty four, three or three
Speaker 1: someone three eight two five five texts d an five
Speaker 1: seven seven, three nine, And thank god America didn't have
Speaker 1: to live through that horror and the President was spared.
Speaker 1: All right, Epstein's stuff, here's my take on it. If
Speaker 1: you weren't with us earlier, there's no legal remedy, right,
Speaker 1: There's not going to be any court process that just
Speaker 1: gets the full truth out there. So it's going to
Speaker 1: have to be done through the administration. And you've got
Speaker 1: to protect the innocent right.
Speaker 2: It would just be.
Speaker 1: Fundamentally wrong, morally wrong to just ruin a bunch of
Speaker 1: people because they had some innocent, non criminal contacts with Epstein.
Speaker 1: But it cannot be acceptable to just let it go.
Speaker 1: The guy was obviously a monster, there were obviously others involved,
Speaker 1: and the world needs to know and above all, Americans
Speaker 1: need to know that there's not going to be a
Speaker 1: cover up. Huge problem with the Democrats, right, and a
Speaker 1: big reason they lost to us. People don't want to
Speaker 1: be an in a republic. They don't want two different justice systems.
Speaker 1: They want the same one for everybody, equal treatment under
Speaker 1: the law.
Speaker 2: So here's here's what.
Speaker 1: I suggest, and then I want to get your taken
Speaker 1: on what some of the names should be. If you
Speaker 1: agree with my approach, is there needs to be at
Speaker 1: this point the administration has control of those files, still
Speaker 1: less tact within the law, but it has control of
Speaker 1: the files. There should be there should be a group
Speaker 1: put together, doesn't have to be a big group, the
Speaker 1: smaller the better.
Speaker 2: There should be a group put together.
Speaker 1: Of highly respected, highly respected former law enforcement officials. And
Speaker 1: I have no problem at all with that group being
Speaker 1: all GOP because we just know the left at this point.
Speaker 1: They just have no regard for the law and fairness
Speaker 1: or anything like that, and they would try to hyper
Speaker 1: politicize and distort and lie about the process. So I
Speaker 1: have no problem with all of these people being Republicans,
Speaker 1: but they have to be people with a law enforcement background,
Speaker 1: no politicians, and they have to be respected and trustworthy
Speaker 1: to then review all of the files and determined what
Speaker 1: can be released under the law and what should be released,
Speaker 1: balancing that fairness scale of not destroying the innocent. And
Speaker 1: then there needs to be a short fuse, my friend,
Speaker 1: there needs to be a short leash, a very tight
Speaker 1: time frame for a report to be issued, because you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You do complex things in your job.
Speaker 1: Everybody does. I do complex things in my legal work.
Speaker 1: If you put your mind to it, an awful lot
Speaker 1: can be done in a hurry, and America deserves answers soon.
Speaker 1: So that's what I think the approach should be. If
Speaker 1: you agree, then I'd love to get I'd love to
Speaker 1: get your take on who those people should be. And
Speaker 1: I'm envisioning two or three. Once it gets too big,
Speaker 1: it gets too long, it gets too unwieldy, just coordinating schedules,
Speaker 1: it's unworkable.
Speaker 2: But who do you think those folks should be?
Speaker 1: If you've got a better idea, let me know if
Speaker 1: you think God should just be allowed to drop, But
Speaker 1: love tod that conversation because I would strongly disagree. Let's
Speaker 1: go to beautiful Colorado Springs. I was down there, well, first,
Speaker 1: I was down there for uh Court this week and
Speaker 1: then I went back today to visit clients and it
Speaker 1: is a beautiful place.
Speaker 2: Kevin. You're on the Dame Caplas. You're welcome. How you doing, Dan,
Speaker 2: I'm living the dream? How about you?
Speaker 12: Just another damn parent. So in reference to your question
Speaker 12: about what would happen if you know the assassin you
Speaker 12: know got you know, would have killed Donald Trump, I
Speaker 12: truly believe that that would have been the end of
Speaker 12: the Democratic Party. I think there would have been some minor,
Speaker 12: a little some skirmishes across the cities and stuff like that,
Speaker 12: and but yeah, it would have been the total annihilation
Speaker 12: of the Democratic Party. Well, I mean he wasn't I mean,
Speaker 12: he wasn't a Trump. He he was anti Trump either.
Speaker 12: Guess what. Guess what party is the Democrats? And you know,
Speaker 12: the Democrats probably would have probably had a PRS like,
Speaker 12: oh no, we had nothing to do with it. But
Speaker 12: you know, the America's not dumb. They they they're not stupid.
Speaker 12: They could see clearly what's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, but Americans are fair and you know, for example,
Speaker 1: Americans didn't conclude and I very much respected the GOP
Speaker 1: for not going there. You know that this monster, you know,
Speaker 1: who killed those people up in Minnesota. Even though the
Speaker 1: monster cited Tim Wallas as his inspiration, the Republicans didn't
Speaker 1: go there because the guy was obviously a nut.
Speaker 12: I don't think first, yeah, and I don't think you know,
Speaker 12: and yeah, you're you're you're correct the Republicans, you know,
Speaker 12: but it would have been it would have been a
Speaker 12: slow diminish of the Republican Party, I'm sorry, the Democratic Party.
Speaker 12: And I mean it would have it would have happened
Speaker 12: over time, you know, I mean slowly, you know, you
Speaker 12: with these cities probably switching, you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 12: That's just again, that's just one man's opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I appreciate it, Kevin, And thank you for
Speaker 2: the call. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That's exactly what I'm asking for us.
Speaker 1: I just want to get people's take on this.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think if God forbid that it happened, I think
Speaker 1: it just causes such immediate deep rupture in America, such anger,
Speaker 1: such fury, and I think, you know, if my belief
Speaker 1: proves to be correct that it was divine intervention, I
Speaker 1: think one of the reasons for that divine intervention would
Speaker 1: be to spare this country, which.
Speaker 2: Is the hope of the world.
Speaker 1: To spare this country that kind of toxic bitter, deep
Speaker 1: deep deep anger and division that would have come. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could see it that day, right, You could see
Speaker 1: it on the ground in Butler, where there was immediately
Speaker 1: this anger. And you know, there is such a thing
Speaker 1: as righteous anger. And sometimes the lack of anger speaks
Speaker 1: poorly of somebody. Sometimes the lack of anger speaks well
Speaker 1: of somebody. If somebody doesn't have right anger when they should,
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with their conscience.
Speaker 2: They don't care enough.
Speaker 1: And you saw that righteous anger on the scene immediately
Speaker 1: in Butler, and imagine how that would have gripped the nation.
Speaker 2: And so I do.
Speaker 1: Think it's and I think again divine intervention, But that
Speaker 1: this nation was spared that the political fallout, I think, yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: it is scary to think about what that would have
Speaker 1: been listening as I'd said before, that right for a
Speaker 1: long time, Kamala Harris was never going to get elected president.
Speaker 1: That just wasn't going to happen. I understand that came
Speaker 1: after Butler, but she wasn't going to get elected president.
Speaker 1: Would it have changed what the Democrats did? Thank God,
Speaker 1: we don't have to know, right, all we know is
Speaker 1: and Ryan.
Speaker 3: I think it.
Speaker 2: Strongly supports I know we have to pop this break.
Speaker 1: I think it strongly supports, you know, my divine intervention
Speaker 1: theory that so many good things have happened for America
Speaker 1: and the world because President Trump survived against all odds.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
Speaker 7: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 13: So DJ to me should step up to the plate
Speaker 13: and just go to the court. Step one, go to
Speaker 13: the court, petition the court to unseal all the evidence
Speaker 13: and then let people make their mind up, let people
Speaker 13: weigh and measure what's there, make their mind. The only
Speaker 13: way you can do is release. So it's not going
Speaker 13: to go away. I don't think this thing's gonna wait.
Speaker 13: And I've told folks this is not going to go away.
Speaker 13: You've got to release everything. Just release it all.
Speaker 2: Well, whether it's going to go away or not, it shouldn't.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I think it's very important to American confidence in the
Speaker 1: justice system that everybody who was involved in criminal activities
Speaker 1: with Epstein be identified. And that's the challenge, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon's approach of just put every record out there
Speaker 1: and let America decide personally, I think would be fundamentally
Speaker 1: unfair to people who had innocent contacts with Epstein. And
Speaker 1: in America, we pride ourselves on innocent until proven guilty
Speaker 1: and on protecting the innocent, and I think we need
Speaker 1: to be true to our values and practice the Golden
Speaker 1: rule and come up with the process where there can
Speaker 1: be a review done. What I suggested earlier was that
Speaker 1: you come up with two or three, no more than that,
Speaker 1: highly respected former law enforcement folks. I'm fine with them
Speaker 1: all being Republican because Democrats would you know, the active
Speaker 1: ones would lie and politicize it, and just go through
Speaker 1: everything and strike a balance, strike a balance. And it's
Speaker 1: not that when you release a name, it's an indictment
Speaker 1: and you're saying we have convicted that person, etc. But
Speaker 1: you just have to strike a balance where it would
Speaker 1: be fair or unfair to release a name. What about
Speaker 1: everybody who went to the island with Epstein? Seems to
Speaker 1: me that's fair. And then if somebody went to the
Speaker 1: island with Epstein said they didn't know any of that
Speaker 1: stuff was going on, then they can make their case
Speaker 1: to the public. You know, if you've got somebody else
Speaker 1: who just had a business meeting with Epstein, do you
Speaker 1: ruin their life over that? Yeh see, I'd love your
Speaker 1: taking all that. I just think it cannot be allowed
Speaker 1: to just go away. But there has to be a
Speaker 1: fair process. Three all three someone three eight two five
Speaker 1: five takes d an five seven seven three nine. Hey,
Speaker 1: a lot coming up in the five o'clock hour as well.
Speaker 1: I do want to get to this. And it's as
Speaker 1: sad I told you so. But we could all see
Speaker 1: it coming, right, We talked about it at the time
Speaker 1: where you've got and it's just this hallmark of this
Speaker 1: this radical Democratic party now where they just don't have respect,
Speaker 1: They really don't for the inherent dignity of each human life.
Speaker 1: And it takes a whole lot of forms, starting with
Speaker 1: mass killing before birth, but but you know, the unnecessary
Speaker 1: killing of a lot of people after birth, and that
Speaker 1: includes this changing our laws when it comes to oh yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're on a bicycle under these circumstances, you can
Speaker 1: run a stuff. So what what are they thinking? Motorcycles?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, in the interest of green ideology, motorcycles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can lane filter, which means when other traffic stopped,
Speaker 1: you know, you can go down the center line well
Speaker 1: other lanes, but but oh no, if traffic's moving, you
Speaker 1: can't do it. When anybody with a brain knew once
Speaker 1: you pass that law, you were going to get full
Speaker 1: lane splitting where motorcycles were going to be going right
Speaker 1: down the lane between traffic, you know, splitting that lane
Speaker 1: between traffic, you know, when traffic was moving, and traffic
Speaker 1: was moving full speed. Ryan, I don't even need to
Speaker 1: get into the examples, right, everybody listening hasn't. But just
Speaker 1: this morning, driving back from meeting in the Springs, I
Speaker 1: had it happened twice. And one of those times I
Speaker 1: was in the express lane and coming back up here
Speaker 1: from Colorado Springs and the bike was splitting the lane
Speaker 1: between me and the left hand lane of normal traffic.
Speaker 1: And he must have been going one hundred and ten
Speaker 1: at least at least And everybody listening can tell a
Speaker 1: bunch of similar stories from probably the last week or two.
Speaker 1: So here's the nine news package on the Here.
Speaker 14: This morning, troopers are targeting reckless motorcyclists on our roadways.
Speaker 14: Colorid State Patrol says that eleven fatal crashes involving motorcyclists
Speaker 14: in June prodded them to conduct the special operation and
Speaker 14: as a.
Speaker 5: Porter, Corny un is joining us live right now from
Speaker 5: C four seventy near Morrison and Corny.
Speaker 8: Over the weekend, officer stop dozens of people, one of
Speaker 8: which was caught on camera going more than one hundred
Speaker 8: miles per hour.
Speaker 10: Yes, that's right, Corey and Jordan. Colorado State Patrol troopers
Speaker 10: and Jefferson County sheriff officers. Our deputies work together this
Speaker 10: weekend to stop forty five vehicles over this holiday weekend.
Speaker 10: Twenty five of them where motorcycles, and one of those
Speaker 10: motorcyclists was going one hundred and twenty miles per hour
Speaker 10: here along C.
Speaker 2: Four seventy.
Speaker 10: Take a look. This is that motorcyclist that we're talking about.
Speaker 10: An aerial view of this chase. According to CSP, because
Speaker 10: of significant risk of the public safety, troopers on the
Speaker 10: ground did not go after the rider. Instead, they used
Speaker 10: the aircraft to track the motorcyclist, who was also seen
Speaker 10: using the right shoulder to pass cars and was also
Speaker 10: spotted weaving through multiple lanes of traffic. Eventually, officers caught
Speaker 10: up to the rider. Once he parked at a business
Speaker 10: in Golden troopers arrested that motorcyclist for felony eluding the.
Speaker 2: Aircraft provides us the ability to kind of sit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this story goes on from there. But similar
Speaker 1: to the story we played last week, et cetera, we
Speaker 1: all know that since the Left put this lane filtering
Speaker 1: law into effect, that we have much much more lanes
Speaker 1: splitting going on and motorcyclists driving at full speed and
Speaker 1: moving traffic between lanes of cars, trucks, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So what do you think should happen here? Personally?
Speaker 1: I think that not only does that lane filtering law
Speaker 1: need to be reversed, I think some very tough laws
Speaker 1: have to be passed absolutely prohibiting this and cracking down
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Listen, I used to ride before a bad wreck, and
Speaker 1: we've had plenty of people who have made the point
Speaker 1: about the safety value of true lane filtering. But I
Speaker 1: think we can do that while getting rid of this madness.
Speaker 1: Doctor Catherine Wheel are next on The Dan Kapla Show.