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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaplis, and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Sometimes that fighting's

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<v Speaker 1>in a courtroom, very often lately, and often it's on

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Glad you're here three h three someone three eight

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<v Speaker 1>two five five the number text d An five seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven three nine. Thank you to the sheriff, Sheriff Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Reims and Heidiganol for filling in while I was once

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<v Speaker 1>again in court and very grateful for that. Feels like

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<v Speaker 1>I've been gone one hundred years and so much happens,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it amazing? I mean compared to maybe even ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. So much happens in any twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>seven cycle. And why because there is a twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to seven cycle, and everybody competing for power, everybody competing

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever it is they want to obtain, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing or a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everybody's having to.

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<v Speaker 1>Fill that cycle so they keep the edge and the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy doesn't get it. So wow, you miss a day,

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<v Speaker 1>You miss a lot. Wasn't that like forty years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>A Koait thing three h three someone three A two

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<v Speaker 2>Seven three nine. Well, start anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to, because I haven't talked about any of

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<v Speaker 1>this on air for three days, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to lead personally with this Epstein thing. I know

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<v Speaker 1>we've got some hot stuff locally, so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>check in with Ryan on that before we go to Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>But this Epstein thing, it intrigues me. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very important moment we're in and it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be handled right for lots of different reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>My good friend Ryan, how you doing last time I

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<v Speaker 2>saw you?

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't Gonnau.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, since before the Independence Day holiday for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy that good job not seeing fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's Independence Day. We got to keep that all

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<v Speaker 3>we do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Yes, And I was at the Convert Independence Day

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<v Speaker 4>parade and my small hometown of Grass Lake is always

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<v Speaker 4>really neat.

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<v Speaker 2>To you the honor up there on the flow, No booddy.

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<v Speaker 4>It was my high school baseball teammate and class of

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<v Speaker 4>ninety two classmate, Roger Cook, who is the head coach

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<v Speaker 4>of the Grasslake Warriors girls softball team, first time ever

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<v Speaker 4>state champions.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful they should be. That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, let me get your quick take on something

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<v Speaker 1>before I go to this Epstein thing, which I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>dying to talk about. I've been following in the news

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<v Speaker 1>as best I can when you're doing trial prep and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. I've I've been following these accusations, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>against state Representative Ron Weinberg. And now did he come

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<v Speaker 1>on with you or with or with share for.

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<v Speaker 2>With Heidi over the last few days.

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<v Speaker 4>No, there appears to be a legal barrier, which you'd

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<v Speaker 4>be very familiar with, but an adviceive counsel. He has

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<v Speaker 4>not come on to do a live interview.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to make the point. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>judging the representative one way or the other. But but

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<v Speaker 1>that is not a legal barrier in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>he can that's a decision not to right and so

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<v Speaker 1>but I just wondered whether he had And so I

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<v Speaker 1>understand now if I have the lay of the land right,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a couple of women who've been very active

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's this allegation now from Representative Brandy Bradley

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<v Speaker 1>as well, I'll play that sound okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I went to leadership about my own problems with

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<v Speaker 5>Representative Weinberger. I wasn't going to air that dirty laundry,

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<v Speaker 5>and they told me to file a workplace harassment against him,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was the only thing that I could do.

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<v Speaker 5>I have plenty more to say. I'm going to wait

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<v Speaker 5>and go to those proper channels. But Carolyn Wantberg sat

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<v Speaker 5>representative that was at the table the last night's session,

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<v Speaker 5>and then talked about another representative who was waiting for

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<v Speaker 5>by her man, which he has heard these things come forward,

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<v Speaker 5>will I am not going to sit here and let

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<v Speaker 5>her go nuclear on me and pretent like I am

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<v Speaker 5>the reason for his bad behavior. I will not do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been all over this while I've been off to

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<v Speaker 1>I legal stuff. You've been all over this. What's your

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the clip prior to that, I think I've loaded

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<v Speaker 4>for you might be number one there and that pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much tells the entire story.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay from the beginning. Now I thought I just played one.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we talking about two?

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<v Speaker 3>Jacqueline? Is that in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Jacqueline's three?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Okay, yep, absolutely he's been inappropriate me and the

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<v Speaker 5>people are standing behind them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, that was worth listening to.

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<v Speaker 3>Jacqueline Anderson is the name?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry? Am I a practice a little bit? A little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>When we my husband and I both were a part

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<v Speaker 6>of the leadership program of the Rockies. I was class

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<v Speaker 6>of twenty one in which Ron was our class president.

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<v Speaker 6>the two incidents in my victim statement reports were both

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<v Speaker 6>at events hosted by LPR. We you know, similar to this. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>it's one of those thingshere. Fortunately, I would say I

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't sexually assaulted. It wasn't like he physically did anything

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<v Speaker 6>to me, so it wasn't anything I felt like I

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<v Speaker 6>could report to the police and have anything done about it.

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<v Speaker 6>But similar if you're being harassed at work, you take

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<v Speaker 6>it to your HR. So when I heard of some

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<v Speaker 6>incidences happening. In twenty twenty two, my husband and I

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<v Speaker 6>decided to go forward and deal and speak with LPR leadership,

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<v Speaker 6>bring forward to them the attention of what had been happening,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, with his harassments, and at that time they

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<v Speaker 6>had a zoom call with us and they had told

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<v Speaker 6>us that they had decided the disciplinary action for Ron

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<v Speaker 6>would be that he would be no longer allowed to

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<v Speaker 6>attend any future LPR events. And at that time we

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<v Speaker 6>felt that was satisfactory. You know, we could appreciate that

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<v Speaker 6>we don't have to be in any spaces with him,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's great. So we just kind of moved on

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<v Speaker 6>with our lives, you know. Unfortunate that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 6>happens that you move on. Even though my husband and

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<v Speaker 6>I have stepped out of the political space over the

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<v Speaker 6>last few years and just led very quiet lives. I

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<v Speaker 6>know a lot of people still in the space who

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<v Speaker 6>are still fighting for our freedoms here in Colorado, and

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<v Speaker 6>I respect that they do. But when I hear stories

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<v Speaker 6>of young girls, young aids who are being harassed and

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<v Speaker 6>afraid to come forward. And then when I had found

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<v Speaker 6>out that he was running for whip, I said enough

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<v Speaker 6>is enough, and sometimes we just need to go ahead

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<v Speaker 6>and be bold and step forward and speak our truth

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<v Speaker 6>and say this is what happened, and hope that people

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<v Speaker 6>will feel safe and coming forward and telling their stories.

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<v Speaker 6>And I got to tell you, there are people in

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<v Speaker 6>floor and the offices, and they're very scared to come forward,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're trying to help them, you know, be able

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<v Speaker 6>to do that in a safe space. But I'm tired

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<v Speaker 6>of hearing how how you know at the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the day, Listen, there's definitely a culture of burying harassment

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<v Speaker 6>in politics, and I'm just not willing to be complicit

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<v Speaker 6>in that anymore. And so that's why I came forward

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<v Speaker 6>with my statement two.

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<v Speaker 1>Or three someone three eight two five five the number

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<v Speaker 1>you have any take on that, you know, I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>me know. I hope the representative does join us at

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Quick addendum, So I was talking about this earlier today

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<v Speaker 4>with Natalie Tenant, founder of Never Surrender. As this continues

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<v Speaker 4>to unfold and Representative Weinberg texted Sheriff Steve Reims, who

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<v Speaker 4>was talking about this to begin the week, and he

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<v Speaker 4>denies the assertion that you just heard from Jaqueline Anderson

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<v Speaker 4>that he was banned or barred or not welcome at

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<v Speaker 4>LPR events. Now that may be a matter of semantics,

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<v Speaker 4>but that was my understanding, and that's what Jacqueline said,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was the resolution to her and her husband's

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<v Speaker 4>satisfaction that that action was taken.

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<v Speaker 3>Ron Weinberg denies that that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, subplot, everybody Steve, right, everybody talks to Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a trusted source. That's a wonderful thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be right. Yeah, okay, man a great integrity and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>quick note for context those who aren't familiar with it,

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<v Speaker 1>last time I was at one of their annual dinners

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<v Speaker 1>at the Broad Mart and it's just a great, great

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<v Speaker 1>force for good in Colorado. But I don't remember it

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<v Speaker 1>being so wild. I know it was a great event

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<v Speaker 2>great chat.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, anyway, so if you have a take on

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<v Speaker 1>all that, I'd be very interesting to see where it lands.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, hope the representative will will join us at

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<v Speaker 1>some point three or three someone three eight two five

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<v Speaker 1>H Dan and Ryan. If someone said I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>blank your wife, couldn't that be perceived as a threat

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<v Speaker 1>of rape, therefore illegal, especially if it was said twice. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't respond to that question because if somebody said

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<v Speaker 1>that about my wife, there'd be nothing left to discuss, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that they would have taken their last breath and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>Jail cell somewhere. So accurate, yeah, fair, Yeah, yeah, so wow,

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<v Speaker 2>some of these we can't read. I thought this was

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<v Speaker 2>a family show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough with this topic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean you heard I had to bleep

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<v Speaker 4>out something, Representative Bradley said, Yeah, based on the characterization

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think you bleeped it very well, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I did. I think we all heard that. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard that, I mean and did. There's no FCC

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<v Speaker 1>thing here because you, I mean, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>bleep that you were doing it to respect the sensitivities

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<v Speaker 1>of our audience. Correct, Yeah, referring to certain acts acts, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all got the gist of it. Unless

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<v Speaker 1>there are other acts identified by two initials two letters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we're going off the rails.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is the perfect time to come back and

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<v Speaker 2>Goes back to the point, no human endeavor is perfect. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a presidency right now that that is going

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<v Speaker 7>And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Talked to President Trump man and man eye to eye

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<v Speaker 8>on Saint Patrick's Day about this and the Kennedy files

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<v Speaker 8>and the King files. It was all one conversation and

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<v Speaker 8>he said, and I agree. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>names associated with Epstein had nothing to do with Epstein's conduct.

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<v Speaker 8>They maybe had lunch with him, or maybe had some

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<v Speaker 8>correspondence for one thing or another. If that name gets out,

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<v Speaker 8>those people are destroyed because it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>So you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 8>You can't destroy human beings by putting out the files,

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<v Speaker 8>whatever they may be. But you're certainly can have Attorney

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<v Speaker 8>General BONDI. So this is what we know, and you

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<v Speaker 8>know we're going to protect the innocent and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So what do you do? What should the process

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<v Speaker 1>one they have mishandled. So how do you straighten that

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<v Speaker 1>out at this point? Because a few things are obviously true.

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<v Speaker 1>a right to know about all bad actors associated with

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<v Speaker 1>with them, but there's no evidence whatsoever that they were supporting, advancing, promoting,

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in any kind of crime. Well, those people need

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<v Speaker 1>to be protected. That's the American way, innocent until proven guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>But this approach of just saying, hey, this is old news,

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that's not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know whether or not the American people

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<v Speaker 1>the president, etc. So I don't know whether it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to become a political problem for the administration. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would venture and I could be going on

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<v Speaker 4>based on the reactions we've seen from so many on

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<v Speaker 4>to believe that those on the left are going to

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<v Speaker 4>that this might be the one issue the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 4>eighty twenty issue, or I think upwards of eighty percent

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<v Speaker 4>of Americans want the truth released, exposed, revealed, whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>want to say about it about Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 3>And who his clients were.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very important to America that that happened on

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in the system, right, just so important?

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<v Speaker 2>But what process?

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<v Speaker 1>Because right now it would have to be a politically

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<v Speaker 1>do you carve that out politically? What would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to see let's start with this three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 1>do now with this? How should he go about handling this?

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<v Speaker 1>I have some ideas on it, but yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>acceptable to just say no this this thing is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go away now. In terms of Democrats, Ryan, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen any major Democrats getting on Trump on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that because they suspect that a number of major

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats were partaking of the criminal activity.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a valid question right there too, Bill Clinton chief

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Have any prominent Democrats while I was in court, any

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<v Speaker 1>prominent Democrats out there bashing Trump on Epstein?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen that. Maybe our listeners have.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen elements of the left, let's say, people

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of taking those political but like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>they're opportunistic shots. It's an area of weakness for Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I'm surprised, because obviously the left has

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<v Speaker 1>been shameless when it comes to falsely accusing President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, right, I mean, falsely accused of treason,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been shameless.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that they've been and either totally quiet

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<v Speaker 1>want no part of that issue again, probably because they

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<v Speaker 1>suspect major Democrats were committing crimes involving Epstein three or three,

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<v Speaker 1>someone three to eight, two five, five texts, dam five, seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the kind of textures we need. Dan I

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<v Speaker 1>joined later. Are you the guest host for Steven Heidi today? Beautifully?

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<v Speaker 2>Don got it? Yeah? Is that coming from management? Might be? Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't blame him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like remember the later years of Johnny Carson,

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<v Speaker 4>and Bette Midler was his final guest and Jay Leno

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<v Speaker 4>would fill in like four days of the week, and

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think Bette Midler was the final guest.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know she's saying to him, though, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, okay, but all right, what about your run

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<v Speaker 4>of trials?

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<v Speaker 3>Here? Dan, are you done yet? Are you through the gauntlet?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Man got a month on trial start September second, But

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<v Speaker 1>I won't have any more now between now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>So except for an occasional day here and there, God willing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Berman, we're all day to day. Yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 1>expect to be on air every day now until that

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<v Speaker 1>next trial starts September second. Very good, but that'll be

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we better get these all stars lined up now.

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<v Speaker 3>Katie bar the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Where does that expression come from?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's Canadian? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's one of those things that intrigues me

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody else. Every time we get a singe like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always wondering what is the origin of that? Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's obvious, and what appears obvious is wrong. So Epstein,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we go about doing this right? There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way through the legal system right now to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get this balance struck where we need the truth

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<v Speaker 1>who else was involved in these heinous, demonic, illegal activities

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<v Speaker 1>while protecting the innocent. And if you disagree with the premise,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think that, hey, it doesn't matter if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with Epstein, it doesn't matter if it was on

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<v Speaker 1>something related this, this, that that all of it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be exposed and let them defend themselves. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>from that school, you know. I'm from the school of

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental fairness, the golden rule. Treat the other guy or

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<v Speaker 1>the people who did wrong in connection with Epstein, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be out it. It's not acceptable that that

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<v Speaker 1>just be buried at this point, no matter where it leads. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a false allegation or implication of any sexual impropriety, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the death penalty before you get the hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get the execution before you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the trial.

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<v Speaker 4>And what do you make of Alan Dershowitz, one time

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<v Speaker 3>We have that sound too, where he's like, no, release

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<v Speaker 4>I was unfairly implicated, and I know it'll be exculpatory

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yes. The amazing thing is I actually plan to

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<v Speaker 9>Others are accusers, and the judges have said if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>But they may not be victims, they may be perpetrators.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't have information about false accusers.

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<v Speaker 9>And we know there have been many false accusers who

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I've got an idea. I want to kick

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of ground to cover, including a

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<v Speaker 1>very sad, unfortunate that I told you so. Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>under this green you know, ideology, pushing this insane you

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<v Speaker 1>know lane filtering in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that too on the Dan Kaplas Show.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 10>The Door, I'd say we're forty years of broken dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on your way.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, Katie about the door thing, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it. I mean, does that just age everybody twenty years?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it not real? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I mean, it just isn't good. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, Kelly has an answer for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Not where it came from, beautiful, I do so.

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<v Speaker 11>It says it's likely originates from a traditional Scottish ballad

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<v Speaker 11>to the Scottish Queen. The legend tells of Catherine Douglas

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<v Speaker 11>famously barricading a door with her arm to protect King

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<v Speaker 11>James the first from assassins. According to The New York Times, must.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been weak assassins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what are you saying about, Katie?

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<v Speaker 2>If if one person's arm and then I'm glad it worked.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume it worked. I hope it worked.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Speaking of w which is there going

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<v Speaker 2>At Butler.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, what do you mean, like the coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>that No, no, no, but we're coming up on the anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>important events in American political history when you stop and

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<v Speaker 1>think about, truly the miraculous way that Trump's life was saved,

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<v Speaker 1>his immediate heroic response, which revealed character in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that really nothing else can a heroic response that that

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<v Speaker 1>day sealed his second term, which has enormous positive consequences

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<v Speaker 1>for America in the world, And that what would have

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<v Speaker 1>happened to this country if God forbid the assassin, whether

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<v Speaker 1>sent by Iran or a lone wolf or whatever, if

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<v Speaker 1>that assassin had succeeded. Now, let me throw that out

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<v Speaker 1>there for you three or three someone three eight two

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<v Speaker 1>five five texts d A N five seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, I personally believe that there was divine

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<v Speaker 1>intervention in that Butler field. I can't prove it, can't

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<v Speaker 1>be certain of it. That's just my belief. I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hope to someday. No, but one way or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think America looks like today, if God forbid,

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<v Speaker 1>that assassin had succeeded, which the assassin was within a

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<v Speaker 1>millisecond of doing one slight had turned away. Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>would the world look like today? What would America look

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<v Speaker 1>like today? What would American politics look like today? What

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<v Speaker 1>would have happened from that day forward? Short term back

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<v Speaker 1>in July and August of twenty four, three or three

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<v Speaker 1>someone three eight two five five texts d an five

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven, three nine, And thank god America didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to live through that horror and the President was spared.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Epstein's stuff, here's my take on it. If

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't with us earlier, there's no legal remedy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>There's not going to be any court process that just

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<v Speaker 1>gets the full truth out there. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to be done through the administration. And you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the innocent right.

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<v Speaker 2>It would just be.

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<v Speaker 1>Fundamentally wrong, morally wrong to just ruin a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people because they had some innocent, non criminal contacts with Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>But it cannot be acceptable to just let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy was obviously a monster, there were obviously others involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and the world needs to know and above all, Americans

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<v Speaker 1>need to know that there's not going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>cover up. Huge problem with the Democrats, right, and a

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<v Speaker 1>big reason they lost to us. People don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be an in a republic. They don't want two different justice systems.

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<v Speaker 1>They want the same one for everybody, equal treatment under

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<v Speaker 1>the law.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's here's what.

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<v Speaker 1>I suggest, and then I want to get your taken

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<v Speaker 1>on what some of the names should be. If you

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<v Speaker 1>agree with my approach, is there needs to be at

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<v Speaker 1>this point the administration has control of those files, still

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<v Speaker 1>less tact within the law, but it has control of

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<v Speaker 1>the files. There should be there should be a group

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<v Speaker 1>put together, doesn't have to be a big group, the

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<v Speaker 1>smaller the better.

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<v Speaker 2>There should be a group put together.

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<v Speaker 1>Of highly respected, highly respected former law enforcement officials. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem at all with that group being

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<v Speaker 1>all GOP because we just know the left at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>They just have no regard for the law and fairness

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that, and they would try to hyper

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<v Speaker 1>politicize and distort and lie about the process. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have no problem with all of these people being Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have to be people with a law enforcement background,

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<v Speaker 1>no politicians, and they have to be respected and trustworthy

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<v Speaker 1>to then review all of the files and determined what

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<v Speaker 1>can be released under the law and what should be released,

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<v Speaker 1>balancing that fairness scale of not destroying the innocent. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there needs to be a short fuse, my friend,

488
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<v Speaker 1>there needs to be a short leash, a very tight

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<v Speaker 1>time frame for a report to be issued, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. You do complex things in your job.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody does. I do complex things in my legal work.

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<v Speaker 1>If you put your mind to it, an awful lot

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<v Speaker 1>can be done in a hurry, and America deserves answers soon.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I think the approach should be. If

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<v Speaker 1>you agree, then I'd love to get I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>get your take on who those people should be. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm envisioning two or three. Once it gets too big,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets too long, it gets too unwieldy, just coordinating schedules,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unworkable.

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<v Speaker 2>But who do you think those folks should be?

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got a better idea, let me know if

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<v Speaker 1>you think God should just be allowed to drop, But

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<v Speaker 1>love tod that conversation because I would strongly disagree. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to beautiful Colorado Springs. I was down there, well, first,

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<v Speaker 1>I was down there for uh Court this week and

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<v Speaker 1>then I went back today to visit clients and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a beautiful place.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin. You're on the Dame Caplas. You're welcome. How you doing, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm living the dream? How about you?

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<v Speaker 12>Just another damn parent. So in reference to your question

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<v Speaker 12>about what would happen if you know the assassin you

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<v Speaker 12>know got you know, would have killed Donald Trump, I

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<v Speaker 12>truly believe that that would have been the end of

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<v Speaker 12>the Democratic Party. I think there would have been some minor,

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<v Speaker 12>a little some skirmishes across the cities and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 12>and but yeah, it would have been the total annihilation

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<v Speaker 12>of the Democratic Party. Well, I mean he wasn't I mean,

518
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<v Speaker 12>he wasn't a Trump. He he was anti Trump either.

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<v Speaker 12>Guess what. Guess what party is the Democrats? And you know,

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<v Speaker 12>the Democrats probably would have probably had a PRS like,

521
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<v Speaker 12>oh no, we had nothing to do with it. But

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<v Speaker 12>you know, the America's not dumb. They they they're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 12>They could see clearly what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kevin, but Americans are fair and you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>Americans didn't conclude and I very much respected the GOP

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<v Speaker 1>for not going there. You know that this monster, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who killed those people up in Minnesota. Even though the

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<v Speaker 1>monster cited Tim Wallas as his inspiration, the Republicans didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go there because the guy was obviously a nut.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think first, yeah, and I don't think you know,

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<v Speaker 12>and yeah, you're you're you're correct the Republicans, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>but it would have been it would have been a

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<v Speaker 12>slow diminish of the Republican Party, I'm sorry, the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 12>And I mean it would have it would have happened

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<v Speaker 12>over time, you know, I mean slowly, you know, you

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<v Speaker 12>with these cities probably switching, you know, and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 12>That's just again, that's just one man's opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I appreciate it, Kevin, And thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>the call. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. That's exactly what I'm asking for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get people's take on this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if God forbid that it happened, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it just causes such immediate deep rupture in America, such anger,

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<v Speaker 1>such fury, and I think, you know, if my belief

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<v Speaker 1>proves to be correct that it was divine intervention, I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the reasons for that divine intervention would

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<v Speaker 1>be to spare this country, which.

549
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<v Speaker 2>Is the hope of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>To spare this country that kind of toxic bitter, deep

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<v Speaker 1>deep deep anger and division that would have come. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see it that day, right, You could see

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<v Speaker 1>it on the ground in Butler, where there was immediately

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<v Speaker 1>this anger. And you know, there is such a thing

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<v Speaker 1>as righteous anger. And sometimes the lack of anger speaks

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<v Speaker 1>poorly of somebody. Sometimes the lack of anger speaks well

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody. If somebody doesn't have right anger when they should,

558
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<v Speaker 1>there's something wrong with their conscience.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And you saw that righteous anger on the scene immediately

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<v Speaker 1>in Butler, and imagine how that would have gripped the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's and I think again divine intervention, But that

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<v Speaker 1>this nation was spared that the political fallout, I think, yeah, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>it is scary to think about what that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been listening as I'd said before, that right for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, Kamala Harris was never going to get elected president.

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<v Speaker 1>That just wasn't going to happen. I understand that came

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<v Speaker 1>after Butler, but she wasn't going to get elected president.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it have changed what the Democrats did? Thank God,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to know, right, all we know is

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<v Speaker 1>and Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Strongly supports I know we have to pop this break.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it strongly supports, you know, my divine intervention

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<v Speaker 1>theory that so many good things have happened for America

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<v Speaker 1>and the world because President Trump survived against all odds.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.

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<v Speaker 7>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 13>So DJ to me should step up to the plate

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<v Speaker 13>and just go to the court. Step one, go to

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<v Speaker 13>the court, petition the court to unseal all the evidence

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<v Speaker 13>and then let people make their mind up, let people

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<v Speaker 13>weigh and measure what's there, make their mind. The only

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<v Speaker 13>way you can do is release. So it's not going

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<v Speaker 13>to go away. I don't think this thing's gonna wait.

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<v Speaker 13>And I've told folks this is not going to go away.

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<v Speaker 13>You've got to release everything. Just release it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, whether it's going to go away or not, it shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very important to American confidence in the

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<v Speaker 1>justice system that everybody who was involved in criminal activities

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<v Speaker 1>with Epstein be identified. And that's the challenge, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Bannon's approach of just put every record out there

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<v Speaker 1>and let America decide personally, I think would be fundamentally

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<v Speaker 1>unfair to people who had innocent contacts with Epstein. And

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<v Speaker 1>in America, we pride ourselves on innocent until proven guilty

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<v Speaker 1>and on protecting the innocent, and I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to be true to our values and practice the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>rule and come up with the process where there can

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<v Speaker 1>be a review done. What I suggested earlier was that

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<v Speaker 1>you come up with two or three, no more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>highly respected former law enforcement folks. I'm fine with them

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<v Speaker 1>all being Republican because Democrats would you know, the active

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<v Speaker 1>ones would lie and politicize it, and just go through

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<v Speaker 1>everything and strike a balance, strike a balance. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that when you release a name, it's an indictment

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<v Speaker 1>and you're saying we have convicted that person, etc. But

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to strike a balance where it would

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<v Speaker 1>be fair or unfair to release a name. What about

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who went to the island with Epstein? Seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that's fair. And then if somebody went to the

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<v Speaker 1>island with Epstein said they didn't know any of that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was going on, then they can make their case

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<v Speaker 1>to the public. You know, if you've got somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>who just had a business meeting with Epstein, do you

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<v Speaker 1>ruin their life over that? Yeh see, I'd love your

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<v Speaker 1>taking all that. I just think it cannot be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to just go away. But there has to be a

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<v Speaker 1>fair process. Three all three someone three eight two five

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<v Speaker 1>five takes d an five seven seven three nine. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot coming up in the five o'clock hour as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to get to this. And it's as

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<v Speaker 1>sad I told you so. But we could all see

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<v Speaker 1>it coming, right, We talked about it at the time

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<v Speaker 1>where you've got and it's just this hallmark of this

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<v Speaker 1>this radical Democratic party now where they just don't have respect,

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<v Speaker 1>They really don't for the inherent dignity of each human life.

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<v Speaker 1>And it takes a whole lot of forms, starting with

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<v Speaker 1>mass killing before birth, but but you know, the unnecessary

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<v Speaker 1>killing of a lot of people after birth, and that

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<v Speaker 1>includes this changing our laws when it comes to oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're on a bicycle under these circumstances, you can

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<v Speaker 1>run a stuff. So what what are they thinking? Motorcycles?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, in the interest of green ideology, motorcycles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can lane filter, which means when other traffic stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can go down the center line well

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<v Speaker 1>other lanes, but but oh no, if traffic's moving, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it. When anybody with a brain knew once

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<v Speaker 1>you pass that law, you were going to get full

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<v Speaker 1>lane splitting where motorcycles were going to be going right

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<v Speaker 1>down the lane between traffic, you know, splitting that lane

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<v Speaker 1>between traffic, you know, when traffic was moving, and traffic

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<v Speaker 1>was moving full speed. Ryan, I don't even need to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the examples, right, everybody listening hasn't. But just

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, driving back from meeting in the Springs, I

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<v Speaker 1>had it happened twice. And one of those times I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the express lane and coming back up here

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<v Speaker 1>from Colorado Springs and the bike was splitting the lane

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<v Speaker 1>between me and the left hand lane of normal traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>And he must have been going one hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 1>at least at least And everybody listening can tell a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of similar stories from probably the last week or two.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the nine news package on the Here.

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<v Speaker 14>This morning, troopers are targeting reckless motorcyclists on our roadways.

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<v Speaker 14>Colorid State Patrol says that eleven fatal crashes involving motorcyclists

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<v Speaker 14>in June prodded them to conduct the special operation and

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<v Speaker 14>as a.

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<v Speaker 5>Porter, Corny un is joining us live right now from

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<v Speaker 5>C four seventy near Morrison and Corny.

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<v Speaker 8>Over the weekend, officer stop dozens of people, one of

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<v Speaker 8>which was caught on camera going more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 8>miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, that's right, Corey and Jordan. Colorado State Patrol troopers

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<v Speaker 10>and Jefferson County sheriff officers. Our deputies work together this

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<v Speaker 10>weekend to stop forty five vehicles over this holiday weekend.

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<v Speaker 10>Twenty five of them where motorcycles, and one of those

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<v Speaker 10>motorcyclists was going one hundred and twenty miles per hour

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<v Speaker 10>here along C.

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<v Speaker 2>Four seventy.

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<v Speaker 10>Take a look. This is that motorcyclist that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 10>An aerial view of this chase. According to CSP, because

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<v Speaker 10>of significant risk of the public safety, troopers on the

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<v Speaker 10>ground did not go after the rider. Instead, they used

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<v Speaker 10>the aircraft to track the motorcyclist, who was also seen

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<v Speaker 10>using the right shoulder to pass cars and was also

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<v Speaker 10>spotted weaving through multiple lanes of traffic. Eventually, officers caught

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<v Speaker 10>up to the rider. Once he parked at a business

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<v Speaker 10>in Golden troopers arrested that motorcyclist for felony eluding the.

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<v Speaker 2>Aircraft provides us the ability to kind of sit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this story goes on from there. But similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the story we played last week, et cetera, we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that since the Left put this lane filtering

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<v Speaker 1>law into effect, that we have much much more lanes

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<v Speaker 1>splitting going on and motorcyclists driving at full speed and

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<v Speaker 1>moving traffic between lanes of cars, trucks, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think should happen here? Personally?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that not only does that lane filtering law

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<v Speaker 1>need to be reversed, I think some very tough laws

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<v Speaker 1>have to be passed absolutely prohibiting this and cracking down

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<v Speaker 1>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I used to ride before a bad wreck, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've had plenty of people who have made the point

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<v Speaker 1>about the safety value of true lane filtering. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can do that while getting rid of this madness.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Catherine Wheel are next on The Dan Kapla Show.
