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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, arthor Sheriff Richard K.

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is in trouble once again with the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we're going to get a general viewpoint of

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<v Speaker 1>Emerson at Colendrius, who is the nineteen year old, a

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<v Speaker 1>young man who has a deportation order against him that's

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<v Speaker 1>called the Cincinnati Socialist to go crazy. I'm sure Richard K.

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is concerned with the Socialist. According to AP story,

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<v Speaker 1>the morning after the ANI protest by hundreds, a group

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<v Speaker 1>more than thirty people return to the sidewalk in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the Butler County Jail to announce Richard K. Jones quote,

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants are welcomed here. The demonstrators put together by the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Socialist or there to call for the release of

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<v Speaker 1>one of their members and for all people detained in

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<v Speaker 1>the jail by the KKK, also known as Iice. Richard K. Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>with your permission, Richard K. Jones, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a general statement from you about Emerson Calundrius. But can

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you first of all the due process rights

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<v Speaker 1>that he's gone through.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was a young man, he was brought here

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<v Speaker 1>from Central America, and shall I say, his mother and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole clan were brought here illegally, and he grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in this community. He graduated at one point from

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<v Speaker 1>Dat another point from Western Hills High School. He's nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old and immigrants immigrant rights organizations have spent years

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<v Speaker 1>appealing his case. In fact, it went to the Sixth

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<v Speaker 1>Circuit US Court of Appeals twice, and each time he

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<v Speaker 1>was turned down for immigration status. He was not a

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<v Speaker 1>shall I say, a political refugee, and there's five qualifications

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<v Speaker 1>he was none of them, went up and down, up

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<v Speaker 1>and down. Finally, several several months ago, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>deportation ordered issued on mister Emerson Calundraus and his family

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to go back to Central America. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I hear liberals like Tony Bender, my producer, quite

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<v Speaker 1>often saying, you know what, we got to have due process,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do. This guy had years of due

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<v Speaker 1>process and he lost, and there was a deportation order

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<v Speaker 1>against him that was executed. First of all, your comment

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<v Speaker 1>on that, before we talk about your friendship with the

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<v Speaker 1>socialist Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>The court system works, and you have when you come

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<v Speaker 2>to this country illegally, you got to follow the laws

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<v Speaker 2>of the land. That's our constitution. You can't just sneak

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<v Speaker 2>in here. And you have due process. He had all

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<v Speaker 2>of that and he didn't win in any piece of it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been to court. He's been to court. So hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with Ice one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was in your power and your ability to

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<v Speaker 1>release Emerson Klendras, would you do it? You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the power to do do it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do not, But I would not when you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's a slippery slope. And what what what do

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to do you? This one has the case?

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<v Speaker 2>This one listen. You have to have a set of rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people can't just break the rules because you like

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<v Speaker 2>them more than others and they No, I would not

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<v Speaker 2>do that. And he's got to go back to his

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<v Speaker 2>own country, whatever that country is. It's not my rules,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the rules of the court. And Ice done the

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<v Speaker 2>correct thing getting him in there to be arrested and

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<v Speaker 2>charged with violations and be shipped back to his country.

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<v Speaker 1>In this Tuesday afternoon. Is he still in your custody

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<v Speaker 1>or has he been shipped back?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I believe he's still in my custody as we

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<v Speaker 2>speak today. Let's give a general they don't keep them.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't keep them long.

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<v Speaker 1>Here right now, if you have an order from a

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<v Speaker 1>judge which has been in the process for years, final

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<v Speaker 1>appealable order has been issued by one level below the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Supreme Court, the Sixth Circuit US Court of

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<v Speaker 1>Appeal said send him back, and the order has been issued.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you or Ice would, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to abide by that court order. We're going to decide

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<v Speaker 1>for ourselves not to send them back. Couldn't you be arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>We'd be arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd be arrested. They be arrested, We'd be arrested. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to happen. He's going to be deported.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the rule is the law, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to abide by the court orders. Period.

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<v Speaker 1>What a novel concept. Now, let's talk about in general,

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<v Speaker 1>why Butler County Jail is the site of housing hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of illegal aliens in the tri state. And also, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Boone County Jail is the same situation about how

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<v Speaker 1>many illegals do you have in your jail right now?

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<v Speaker 1>To your knowledge?

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<v Speaker 2>About three fifty three eighty given depending what day it is.

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<v Speaker 2>In the jail here where we have a contract with ICE.

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<v Speaker 2>They but under this administration this time, they don't stay long.

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<v Speaker 2>Under President Trump and President Bush, the first the second

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<v Speaker 2>President Bush, what they would do is they bring him in.

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<v Speaker 2>They stay for months and months and months. They come in.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they ship them out pretty quick, within a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. Usually they get them out of here. They're

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<v Speaker 2>on a bus, they're headed to the airport, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>shipped back to their country. If they didn't, they'd have

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<v Speaker 2>no room. County jails are the only place where they

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<v Speaker 2>can house these people in the whole country, and they

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<v Speaker 2>only have so much bedspace that they're allowed to purchase.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe they're getting close to that full mark.

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<v Speaker 2>So they got to get him in and then they've

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<v Speaker 2>got to get him out. It's a pretty big CIRVI.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a Swiss watch. Every piece has to work.

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<v Speaker 2>What comes in has to go out on the other end,

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<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>How many I think you're authorized for four hundred How

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<v Speaker 1>much money is Butler County? I saw numbers on one

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<v Speaker 1>website about a million dollars a month Butler County is

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<v Speaker 1>getting to house these individuals. Is that about correct? About

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<v Speaker 1>correct as far as as far as as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the high school soccer players is Emerson Colundras, the kid

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<v Speaker 1>from Central America is see the typical ice prisoner or

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<v Speaker 1>these bad ombrace.

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<v Speaker 2>They come across. Most of them come across the work.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them have warrants. I got one that was

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<v Speaker 2>gone for twenty twenty five years that murdered somebody here

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<v Speaker 2>in Hamilton. Was gone twenty five years. That's how long

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<v Speaker 2>it took to get him back. I have one in

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<v Speaker 2>my jail that's been deported eight times and then he

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<v Speaker 2>murdered somebody when he was released the last time. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been deported from here eight times. He's got several different names.

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<v Speaker 2>I have some that are a majority of them have

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<v Speaker 2>come here to work, and then there's a small portion,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you know that comes in to violate, sell drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>drive intoxicated, won't work. Most of them come to work

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<v Speaker 2>and they work pretty hard. But they can't come here

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<v Speaker 2>and take jobs away from Americans. And they'll say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Americans won't do certain jobs. Well, that's because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>pay them enough. Listen, when you come here and there's

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<v Speaker 2>ten families living in one house or five families, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to work from daylight to dark. I drove

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<v Speaker 2>past one place the other day. These people were working

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<v Speaker 2>on a house Saturday and Sunday and they were using

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<v Speaker 2>flashlights their car lights working building houses. And I almost

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<v Speaker 2>promise you that's not Americans, US citizens. And these people

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<v Speaker 2>work from daylight till dark. Then they go home, they

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<v Speaker 2>show back up, they drive them up in a van.

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<v Speaker 2>They have no driver's lives and somebody will drive them

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<v Speaker 2>or they'll drive illegally. They work like slaves. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>equivalent of modern day slavery. Make no mistake about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the American dream. It's really really sad for them,

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<v Speaker 2>these people that think that's okay that they have a

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<v Speaker 2>better life here. No, this isn't a better life, and

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<v Speaker 2>they can never become a US citizen. It's really a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>And our country. You know, we have legal immigration. Two

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<v Speaker 2>million people here a year come in legally every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Expand that a bit, but just not anybody that wants

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<v Speaker 2>to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as Kaylee Baker, I saw the video last night.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a twenty six year old who lives near Dayton

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested by Hamilton police officers. According to jail records, Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>woman twenty six years old. She was shouting Piggy, piggy,

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<v Speaker 1>piggy as the butler kind of sheriffs. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>had a measurable impact in your life. Piggy, piggy, piggy.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was started with felony assault for misdemeanors obstructing

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<v Speaker 1>official business, resisting arrest, fair to disclose personal information, and

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<v Speaker 1>disardly conduct, anything else you could charge her with. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's yelling, piggy, piggy, piggy. Where is she now?

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<v Speaker 2>Hayley Baker She she think she bonded out her parents

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<v Speaker 2>apologized to the court. I was told today, uh that

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't raised that way. She's not from around here.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh but and I think she's a four hour drive

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<v Speaker 2>from here. But what they do is they get online

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<v Speaker 2>and they believe all this crazy stuff and then they

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<v Speaker 2>beg for their mommy to come bail them out when

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<v Speaker 2>they get arrested. They've come to the wrong place. If

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<v Speaker 2>they come here, City of Hamilton Police Department won't take

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. You can't come here and block roads off.

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<v Speaker 2>You can protest. Yeah, yeah, it's not like California.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you throw some cement blocks and cops and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>commercial great fireworks. Can you do that? Peace can very peaceful,

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<v Speaker 1>very peaceful.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you can do it, but it won't end well

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's peace You would have meant that's peaceful, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe torts Butler County sheriff cars. That's peaceful.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what the governor of California said, and the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Los Angeles protest. She was making that state

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<v Speaker 2>to the media. Police car was set on firm, blew up.

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<v Speaker 2>She said they were peaceful. Uh, and that's all a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of crap. But listen, people don't want that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want their stores looted and burned and the

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<v Speaker 2>police cars and throw bricks at the police trying to

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<v Speaker 2>respond to help the other police. You do that and

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to go to jail California. Hey, they might

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<v Speaker 2>elect you to some high office if you do that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But not here, not here, we will not stand down.

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<v Speaker 2>And us and the Hamilton police and all the local

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<v Speaker 2>police Middletown, Farifield, Westchester, Listen, it's an orderly community to

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<v Speaker 2>live and that's because we have good police, good corps,

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<v Speaker 2>good prosecutor. Mike Moser wouldn't put up with them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you notice you don't see Barnes and Nobles being looted.

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<v Speaker 1>They tend to be Nike stores. Is that Apple stores?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Barnes and Nobles get that new book. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Nike, And I would point out, are you intimidated

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<v Speaker 1>by the Cincinnati socialist? They learned about the ice agent's

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<v Speaker 1>arrest of Emerson Calendras, a nineteen year old Honduran immigrant,

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<v Speaker 1>invited his family to speak at the June eighth protest.

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<v Speaker 1>What impact of these hundreds of gathering socialists have outside

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<v Speaker 1>the Butler County jail with the sheriff Richard K. Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you worried about being intimidated by these individuals?

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<v Speaker 2>A little fright No? No, No, I wasn't frightened. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't intimidated. And it takes a lot to do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be upset. When I read the book when

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<v Speaker 2>old Yaller died, I teared up a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 2>other than that, it's pretty tough to get under my skin.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing this a while. But listen, Bill sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>what you got to do is you got to you

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<v Speaker 2>got to use force sometime when people loot throw bricks

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<v Speaker 2>at the police. When they were throwing the bricks at

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<v Speaker 2>those cars, those ice cars, the guy I had them

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<v Speaker 2>laying right there. Every car went by, he must have

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<v Speaker 2>threw at ten of them, knocking their windows out and

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<v Speaker 2>injured a couple of them and could have killed them.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't care. He had his little helmet on. But

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<v Speaker 2>they arrested him because they offered a fifty thousand dollars reward.

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<v Speaker 2>His mother probably turned him in because he thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was funny. But I knew he wasn't going to But

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes the police, like in Los Angeles, you can't stand

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<v Speaker 2>there and let this happen. Sometimes you got to kill

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<v Speaker 2>a fly with a sledgehammer. You know why. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to do that with a sledgehammer to a fly. You

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<v Speaker 2>know why? Because that's for the effect of the other flies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that is. They didn't do anything, so these

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<v Speaker 2>sorry people, they didn't arrest them, They didn't make a stand.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody does what they want to do, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing, and they're going to continue to burn

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<v Speaker 2>New York or California it's gonna be that way all summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and there'll be other states joining in. No washing cee.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, I had a guest on earlier today. Patrick Herringer's

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<v Speaker 1>He was uh, he was out. He was not quite

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<v Speaker 1>on parole, but he was in post release. He had

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle bracelet on Uh. He cut it off for

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<v Speaker 1>four months. The police here, other agencies did nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>find him. He's walking around Otr with a large butcher

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<v Speaker 1>knife in his hand, looking to do something. He knocks

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<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock in the morning. Sadly the door was opened.

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<v Speaker 1>He went in, got one hell of a fight. This

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<v Speaker 1>this man, this forty six year old owner of a gym,

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<v Speaker 1>survived a rock. He survived Afghanistan. The army officer, he

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<v Speaker 1>was given all the decorations, basically the army could give

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<v Speaker 1>him come back home a U see graduate he's murdered

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<v Speaker 1>by Mordecai Black and now you can't find the city

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<v Speaker 1>leaders with a search warrant have to have pure of all.

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<v Speaker 1>No news conference today. There's a public safety committee meeting

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<v Speaker 1>going on, but the murderer of Patrick is not on

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<v Speaker 1>the docket. If in the city of Hamilton, the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Fairfield, there's orders out for someone who's a rapist,

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer, he's walking around town with a butcher knife,

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<v Speaker 1>would that work well in downtown Fairfield?

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<v Speaker 2>No, nowhere in Butler County would it work well at all?

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<v Speaker 2>And we would find this person, they'd be arrested within

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<v Speaker 2>a few hours. It's not minutes. You can't let these

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<v Speaker 2>people go out. Now, the Cincinnati police, they're some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best police there is in the entire country. The

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<v Speaker 2>police department is and it's it's tough. They work. They

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<v Speaker 2>have leadership and their mayors and their city managers that

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<v Speaker 2>run back and control things. And how would you like

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<v Speaker 2>to be a policeman in Cincinnati? No? No, no, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>who the hell would want to work there? But listen,

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<v Speaker 2>the police are the best, most trained there is. They're

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<v Speaker 2>second to none. They want to do stuff, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they're city council and their city manager, their sanctuary city.

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<v Speaker 2>They you get bonded out pretty easy. Yep. They're all

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<v Speaker 2>short staffed. Yep. I feel sorry for him. Great people

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<v Speaker 2>you know him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I know I talked to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, look, twenty years ago, we didn't need speed

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<v Speaker 1>bumps on Madison Road. We had criminals that would have

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<v Speaker 1>to be in jail before they were bonded out on

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<v Speaker 1>high bonds. We had judges that would send people to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>There's three legs of the justice stool. One leg is

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<v Speaker 1>the police officer, the second leg is the prosecutor, and

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<v Speaker 1>the third leg is the judge. And if one of

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<v Speaker 1>those three legs not working, we got all hell breaking loose.

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<v Speaker 1>And many times in Hamilton County we have all three

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<v Speaker 1>legs not working. And public relations wise, it's great to

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<v Speaker 1>have a mayor that looks like he's off the pages

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<v Speaker 1>of GQ. But nonetheless he won't comment, he won't change

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<v Speaker 1>at all because it's not in their interest. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to run, No, go ahead, please go ahead, share.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's let's listen. Cincinnati is a different outfit. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a sanctuary city and you allow the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to go on and uh, and your mayor is a

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<v Speaker 2>very pretty man. I agree with you, and listen. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>so are you and I in our own way? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know about that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm just I'm talking about feel good. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about you, trying to make you feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen, they've got a long summer ahead of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And this dude should have been locked up in jail,

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<v Speaker 2>should have been incarcerated. And now look, a good person

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<v Speaker 2>has died. And your mayor won't say a word, not

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<v Speaker 2>going to counsel, won't mention a word of it, don't. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they're out campaigning and doing other things, probably not even

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing will change until it has changed, and I'll look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to November for a change. But I'll hold my

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<v Speaker 1>breath and turn blue until that happens. But uh, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're going to have to bring back mayor Cranby, Cranley, Cranly,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Cranley, I met Cranley. Sorry Cranley, Cramby, Crany, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Cramby like Crandly.

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<v Speaker 1>Cranley A right, thank you, Sheriff. I got it, and

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<v Speaker 1>give my best to Amberson Calandris. Will you get my best?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you're the man, see your brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham Cranley Cranby, seven hundred

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