Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, arthor Sheriff Richard K.
Speaker 1: Jones is in trouble once again with the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: And then we're going to get a general viewpoint of
Speaker 1: Emerson at Colendrius, who is the nineteen year old, a
Speaker 1: young man who has a deportation order against him that's
Speaker 1: called the Cincinnati Socialist to go crazy. I'm sure Richard K.
Speaker 1: Jones is concerned with the Socialist. According to AP story,
Speaker 1: the morning after the ANI protest by hundreds, a group
Speaker 1: more than thirty people return to the sidewalk in front
Speaker 1: of the Butler County Jail to announce Richard K. Jones quote,
Speaker 1: immigrants are welcomed here. The demonstrators put together by the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Socialist or there to call for the release of
Speaker 1: one of their members and for all people detained in
Speaker 1: the jail by the KKK, also known as Iice. Richard K. Jones,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: with your permission, Richard K. Jones, I want to get
Speaker 1: a general statement from you about Emerson Calundrius. But can
Speaker 1: I tell you first of all the due process rights
Speaker 1: that he's gone through.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, all right.
Speaker 1: When he was a young man, he was brought here
Speaker 1: from Central America, and shall I say, his mother and
Speaker 1: the whole clan were brought here illegally, and he grew
Speaker 1: up in this community. He graduated at one point from
Speaker 1: Dat another point from Western Hills High School. He's nineteen
Speaker 1: years old and immigrants immigrant rights organizations have spent years
Speaker 1: appealing his case. In fact, it went to the Sixth
Speaker 1: Circuit US Court of Appeals twice, and each time he
Speaker 1: was turned down for immigration status. He was not a
Speaker 1: shall I say, a political refugee, and there's five qualifications
Speaker 1: he was none of them, went up and down, up
Speaker 1: and down. Finally, several several months ago, there was a
Speaker 1: deportation ordered issued on mister Emerson Calundraus and his family
Speaker 1: that they have to go back to Central America. And
Speaker 1: so I hear liberals like Tony Bender, my producer, quite
Speaker 1: often saying, you know what, we got to have due process,
Speaker 1: we need to do. This guy had years of due
Speaker 1: process and he lost, and there was a deportation order
Speaker 1: against him that was executed. First of all, your comment
Speaker 1: on that, before we talk about your friendship with the
Speaker 1: socialist Listen.
Speaker 2: The court system works, and you have when you come
Speaker 2: to this country illegally, you got to follow the laws
Speaker 2: of the land. That's our constitution. You can't just sneak
Speaker 2: in here. And you have due process. He had all
Speaker 2: of that and he didn't win in any piece of it.
Speaker 2: He's been to court. He's been to court. So hey,
Speaker 2: I agree with Ice one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: If it was in your power and your ability to
Speaker 1: release Emerson Klendras, would you do it? You don't have
Speaker 1: the power to do do it?
Speaker 2: No, I do not, But I would not when you
Speaker 2: know that's a slippery slope. And what what what do
Speaker 2: you listen to do you? This one has the case?
Speaker 2: This one listen. You have to have a set of rules.
Speaker 2: Some people can't just break the rules because you like
Speaker 2: them more than others and they No, I would not
Speaker 2: do that. And he's got to go back to his
Speaker 2: own country, whatever that country is. It's not my rules,
Speaker 2: it's the rules of the court. And Ice done the
Speaker 2: correct thing getting him in there to be arrested and
Speaker 2: charged with violations and be shipped back to his country.
Speaker 1: In this Tuesday afternoon. Is he still in your custody
Speaker 1: or has he been shipped back?
Speaker 2: No? I believe he's still in my custody as we
Speaker 2: speak today. Let's give a general they don't keep them.
Speaker 2: They don't keep them long.
Speaker 1: Here right now, if you have an order from a
Speaker 1: judge which has been in the process for years, final
Speaker 1: appealable order has been issued by one level below the
Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court, the Sixth Circuit US Court of
Speaker 1: Appeal said send him back, and the order has been issued.
Speaker 1: In fact, if you or Ice would, we're not going
Speaker 1: to abide by that court order. We're going to decide
Speaker 1: for ourselves not to send them back. Couldn't you be arrested,
Speaker 1: We'd be arrested.
Speaker 2: We'd be arrested. They be arrested, We'd be arrested. And
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen. He's going to be deported.
Speaker 2: It's just the rule is the law, and you've got
Speaker 2: to abide by the court orders. Period.
Speaker 1: What a novel concept. Now, let's talk about in general,
Speaker 1: why Butler County Jail is the site of housing hundreds
Speaker 1: of illegal aliens in the tri state. And also, I
Speaker 1: think Boone County Jail is the same situation about how
Speaker 1: many illegals do you have in your jail right now?
Speaker 1: To your knowledge?
Speaker 2: About three fifty three eighty given depending what day it is.
Speaker 2: In the jail here where we have a contract with ICE.
Speaker 2: They but under this administration this time, they don't stay long.
Speaker 2: Under President Trump and President Bush, the first the second
Speaker 2: President Bush, what they would do is they bring him in.
Speaker 2: They stay for months and months and months. They come in.
Speaker 2: Now they ship them out pretty quick, within a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. Usually they get them out of here. They're
Speaker 2: on a bus, they're headed to the airport, and they're
Speaker 2: shipped back to their country. If they didn't, they'd have
Speaker 2: no room. County jails are the only place where they
Speaker 2: can house these people in the whole country, and they
Speaker 2: only have so much bedspace that they're allowed to purchase.
Speaker 2: And I believe they're getting close to that full mark.
Speaker 2: So they got to get him in and then they've
Speaker 2: got to get him out. It's a pretty big CIRVI.
Speaker 2: It's like a Swiss watch. Every piece has to work.
Speaker 2: What comes in has to go out on the other end,
Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: How many I think you're authorized for four hundred How
Speaker 1: much money is Butler County? I saw numbers on one
Speaker 1: website about a million dollars a month Butler County is
Speaker 1: getting to house these individuals. Is that about correct? About
Speaker 1: correct as far as as far as as far as
Speaker 1: the high school soccer players is Emerson Colundras, the kid
Speaker 1: from Central America is see the typical ice prisoner or
Speaker 1: these bad ombrace.
Speaker 2: They come across. Most of them come across the work.
Speaker 2: Some of them have warrants. I got one that was
Speaker 2: gone for twenty twenty five years that murdered somebody here
Speaker 2: in Hamilton. Was gone twenty five years. That's how long
Speaker 2: it took to get him back. I have one in
Speaker 2: my jail that's been deported eight times and then he
Speaker 2: murdered somebody when he was released the last time. He's
Speaker 2: been deported from here eight times. He's got several different names.
Speaker 2: I have some that are a majority of them have
Speaker 2: come here to work, and then there's a small portion,
Speaker 2: which is you know that comes in to violate, sell drugs,
Speaker 2: drive intoxicated, won't work. Most of them come to work
Speaker 2: and they work pretty hard. But they can't come here
Speaker 2: and take jobs away from Americans. And they'll say, well,
Speaker 2: Americans won't do certain jobs. Well, that's because they don't
Speaker 2: pay them enough. Listen, when you come here and there's
Speaker 2: ten families living in one house or five families, and
Speaker 2: you have to work from daylight to dark. I drove
Speaker 2: past one place the other day. These people were working
Speaker 2: on a house Saturday and Sunday and they were using
Speaker 2: flashlights their car lights working building houses. And I almost
Speaker 2: promise you that's not Americans, US citizens. And these people
Speaker 2: work from daylight till dark. Then they go home, they
Speaker 2: show back up, they drive them up in a van.
Speaker 2: They have no driver's lives and somebody will drive them
Speaker 2: or they'll drive illegally. They work like slaves. It's the
Speaker 2: equivalent of modern day slavery. Make no mistake about it.
Speaker 2: It's not the American dream. It's really really sad for them,
Speaker 2: these people that think that's okay that they have a
Speaker 2: better life here. No, this isn't a better life, and
Speaker 2: they can never become a US citizen. It's really a mess.
Speaker 2: And our country. You know, we have legal immigration. Two
Speaker 2: million people here a year come in legally every year.
Speaker 2: Expand that a bit, but just not anybody that wants
Speaker 2: to come in.
Speaker 1: As far as Kaylee Baker, I saw the video last night.
Speaker 1: She's a twenty six year old who lives near Dayton
Speaker 1: was arrested by Hamilton police officers. According to jail records, Baker,
Speaker 1: woman twenty six years old. She was shouting Piggy, piggy,
Speaker 1: piggy as the butler kind of sheriffs. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: had a measurable impact in your life. Piggy, piggy, piggy.
Speaker 1: And she was started with felony assault for misdemeanors obstructing
Speaker 1: official business, resisting arrest, fair to disclose personal information, and
Speaker 1: disardly conduct, anything else you could charge her with. And
Speaker 1: she's yelling, piggy, piggy, piggy. Where is she now?
Speaker 2: Hayley Baker She she think she bonded out her parents
Speaker 2: apologized to the court. I was told today, uh that
Speaker 2: she wasn't raised that way. She's not from around here.
Speaker 2: Uh but and I think she's a four hour drive
Speaker 2: from here. But what they do is they get online
Speaker 2: and they believe all this crazy stuff and then they
Speaker 2: beg for their mommy to come bail them out when
Speaker 2: they get arrested. They've come to the wrong place. If
Speaker 2: they come here, City of Hamilton Police Department won't take
Speaker 2: this stuff. You can't come here and block roads off.
Speaker 2: You can protest. Yeah, yeah, it's not like California.
Speaker 1: Can you throw some cement blocks and cops and maybe
Speaker 1: commercial great fireworks. Can you do that? Peace can very peaceful,
Speaker 1: very peaceful.
Speaker 2: Look, you can do it, but it won't end well
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: It's peace You would have meant that's peaceful, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Like maybe torts Butler County sheriff cars. That's peaceful.
Speaker 2: That's that's what the governor of California said, and the
Speaker 2: mayor of Los Angeles protest. She was making that state
Speaker 2: to the media. Police car was set on firm, blew up.
Speaker 2: She said they were peaceful. Uh, and that's all a
Speaker 2: bunch of crap. But listen, people don't want that stuff.
Speaker 2: They don't want their stores looted and burned and the
Speaker 2: police cars and throw bricks at the police trying to
Speaker 2: respond to help the other police. You do that and
Speaker 2: you're going to go to jail California. Hey, they might
Speaker 2: elect you to some high office if you do that stuff.
Speaker 2: But not here, not here, we will not stand down.
Speaker 2: And us and the Hamilton police and all the local
Speaker 2: police Middletown, Farifield, Westchester, Listen, it's an orderly community to
Speaker 2: live and that's because we have good police, good corps,
Speaker 2: good prosecutor. Mike Moser wouldn't put up with them all.
Speaker 1: Have you notice you don't see Barnes and Nobles being looted.
Speaker 1: They tend to be Nike stores. Is that Apple stores?
Speaker 1: Let's go to Barnes and Nobles get that new book. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's Nike, And I would point out, are you intimidated
Speaker 1: by the Cincinnati socialist? They learned about the ice agent's
Speaker 1: arrest of Emerson Calendras, a nineteen year old Honduran immigrant,
Speaker 1: invited his family to speak at the June eighth protest.
Speaker 1: What impact of these hundreds of gathering socialists have outside
Speaker 1: the Butler County jail with the sheriff Richard K. Jones,
Speaker 1: Are you worried about being intimidated by these individuals?
Speaker 2: A little fright No? No, No, I wasn't frightened. I
Speaker 2: wasn't intimidated. And it takes a lot to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and to be upset. When I read the book when
Speaker 2: old Yaller died, I teared up a little bit. So
Speaker 2: other than that, it's pretty tough to get under my skin.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this a while. But listen, Bill sometimes
Speaker 2: what you got to do is you got to you
Speaker 2: got to use force sometime when people loot throw bricks
Speaker 2: at the police. When they were throwing the bricks at
Speaker 2: those cars, those ice cars, the guy I had them
Speaker 2: laying right there. Every car went by, he must have
Speaker 2: threw at ten of them, knocking their windows out and
Speaker 2: injured a couple of them and could have killed them.
Speaker 2: He didn't care. He had his little helmet on. But
Speaker 2: they arrested him because they offered a fifty thousand dollars reward.
Speaker 2: His mother probably turned him in because he thought it
Speaker 2: was funny. But I knew he wasn't going to But
Speaker 2: sometimes the police, like in Los Angeles, you can't stand
Speaker 2: there and let this happen. Sometimes you got to kill
Speaker 2: a fly with a sledgehammer. You know why. You got
Speaker 2: to do that with a sledgehammer to a fly. You
Speaker 2: know why? Because that's for the effect of the other flies.
Speaker 2: That's what that is. They didn't do anything, so these
Speaker 2: sorry people, they didn't arrest them, They didn't make a stand.
Speaker 2: So everybody does what they want to do, and that's
Speaker 2: what they're doing, and they're going to continue to burn
Speaker 2: New York or California it's gonna be that way all summer,
Speaker 2: and there'll be other states joining in. No washing cee.
Speaker 1: Lastly, I had a guest on earlier today. Patrick Herringer's
Speaker 1: murder an Otr at the hands of Mordecai Black.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He was uh, he was out. He was not quite
Speaker 1: on parole, but he was in post release. He had
Speaker 1: an ankle bracelet on Uh. He cut it off for
Speaker 1: four months. The police here, other agencies did nothing to
Speaker 1: find him. He's walking around Otr with a large butcher
Speaker 1: knife in his hand, looking to do something. He knocks
Speaker 1: on the door of Patrick Herringer and Otr and Uh
Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the morning. Sadly the door was opened.
Speaker 1: He went in, got one hell of a fight. This
Speaker 1: this man, this forty six year old owner of a gym,
Speaker 1: survived a rock. He survived Afghanistan. The army officer, he
Speaker 1: was given all the decorations, basically the army could give
Speaker 1: him come back home a U see graduate he's murdered
Speaker 1: by Mordecai Black and now you can't find the city
Speaker 1: leaders with a search warrant have to have pure of all.
Speaker 1: No news conference today. There's a public safety committee meeting
Speaker 1: going on, but the murderer of Patrick is not on
Speaker 1: the docket. If in the city of Hamilton, the city
Speaker 1: of Fairfield, there's orders out for someone who's a rapist,
Speaker 1: a murderer, he's walking around town with a butcher knife,
Speaker 1: would that work well in downtown Fairfield?
Speaker 2: No, nowhere in Butler County would it work well at all?
Speaker 2: And we would find this person, they'd be arrested within
Speaker 2: a few hours. It's not minutes. You can't let these
Speaker 2: people go out. Now, the Cincinnati police, they're some of
Speaker 2: the best police there is in the entire country. The
Speaker 2: police department is and it's it's tough. They work. They
Speaker 2: have leadership and their mayors and their city managers that
Speaker 2: run back and control things. And how would you like
Speaker 2: to be a policeman in Cincinnati? No? No, no, Hey,
Speaker 2: who the hell would want to work there? But listen,
Speaker 2: the police are the best, most trained there is. They're
Speaker 2: second to none. They want to do stuff, but hey,
Speaker 2: they're city council and their city manager, their sanctuary city.
Speaker 2: They you get bonded out pretty easy. Yep. They're all
Speaker 2: short staffed. Yep. I feel sorry for him. Great people
Speaker 2: you know him.
Speaker 1: And I know I know I talked to him, and
Speaker 1: they say, look, twenty years ago, we didn't need speed
Speaker 1: bumps on Madison Road. We had criminals that would have
Speaker 1: to be in jail before they were bonded out on
Speaker 1: high bonds. We had judges that would send people to jail.
Speaker 1: There's three legs of the justice stool. One leg is
Speaker 1: the police officer, the second leg is the prosecutor, and
Speaker 1: the third leg is the judge. And if one of
Speaker 1: those three legs not working, we got all hell breaking loose.
Speaker 1: And many times in Hamilton County we have all three
Speaker 1: legs not working. And public relations wise, it's great to
Speaker 1: have a mayor that looks like he's off the pages
Speaker 1: of GQ. But nonetheless he won't comment, he won't change
Speaker 1: at all because it's not in their interest. Well, we
Speaker 1: got to run, No, go ahead, please go ahead, share.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's let's listen. Cincinnati is a different outfit. And
Speaker 2: when you're a sanctuary city and you allow the stuff
Speaker 2: to go on and uh, and your mayor is a
Speaker 2: very pretty man. I agree with you, and listen. Uh,
Speaker 2: so are you and I in our own way? Right?
Speaker 1: And I don't know about that you.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just I'm talking about feel good. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about you, trying to make you feel good.
Speaker 2: But listen, they've got a long summer ahead of them.
Speaker 2: And this dude should have been locked up in jail,
Speaker 2: should have been incarcerated. And now look, a good person
Speaker 2: has died. And your mayor won't say a word, not
Speaker 2: going to counsel, won't mention a word of it, don't. Hey,
Speaker 2: they're out campaigning and doing other things, probably not even
Speaker 2: in town.
Speaker 1: Nothing will change until it has changed, and I'll look
Speaker 1: forward to November for a change. But I'll hold my
Speaker 1: breath and turn blue until that happens. But uh, thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to have to bring back mayor Cranby, Cranley, Cranly,
Speaker 2: Oh Cranley, I met Cranley. Sorry Cranley, Cramby, Crany, yes,
Speaker 2: Cramby like Crandly.
Speaker 1: Cranley A right, thank you, Sheriff. I got it, and
Speaker 1: give my best to Amberson Calandris. Will you get my best?
Speaker 2: Hey, you're the man, see your brother.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham Cranley Cranby, seven hundred
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