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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I may not know you, but you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a mom, happy Mother's Day. I'm sure you've got at

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<v Speaker 1>least I hope you've got folks in your life that

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<v Speaker 1>will let you know you're appreciated. Mom's, Grandma's. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is something I probably shouldn't throw out there and like

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<v Speaker 1>make it a talking point because sometimes when I just

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<v Speaker 1>when I don't know about something, I kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>throw it out there on the airwaves here and hopes

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<v Speaker 1>of people, like, you know, it's probably an insecurity. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a crutch that I have, Like hey, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stupid, but let me throw it out there and

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<v Speaker 1>get reaction to see if like I'm if I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the minority or not. But it is, it's really really

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<v Speaker 1>like I I feel like most people know that you

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<v Speaker 1>should celebrate the mother of your children on Mother's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>like you do your mom. But maybe I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that because like my kids are so young that like

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<v Speaker 1>they won't be able to like clearly that my son

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a bank account, he can't go buy his

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<v Speaker 1>mother gift that kind of stuff. So like whenever they're older, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still be a thing. I kind of think it

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<v Speaker 1>will because you know, she's not my mama, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>a mama, and you know, moms are really important. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very lucky and blessed beyond belief to have the mom

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<v Speaker 1>that I have, but also like very happy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Mother's Day. Also makes me be thankful that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a woman in my life who is the

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<v Speaker 1>mom and my kids and you know, she's pretty damn

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<v Speaker 1>good at it from what I can tell, at least

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<v Speaker 1>you know, up to this point. So anyways, Happy Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Grandma's mom's, stepmom's mother in law's baby mama's too. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never referred to my wife as baby mama. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I did this weekend on Mother's Day, she

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't like that, But I mean, technically she is.

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<v Speaker 1>She's my baby's mother, although my children aren't babies anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of sad. But anyways, let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>hour to or two started. We got two hours left

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<v Speaker 1>here before we get out of here for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are just not joining us, the news

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<v Speaker 1>that I started with that I think is really been

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<v Speaker 1>a theme this week is getting more info about what

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville's basketball schedule is going to look like, and mother

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<v Speaker 1>in the last I guess twenty six hours. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty five hours because it was at five o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday when UL put out the press release announcing that

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<v Speaker 1>they have renewed their rivalry series with Memphis for six years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then earlier today it was reported by John Rosstein

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<v Speaker 1>first and then Eric Crawford had something at DRB about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not official, but it will be soon, I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine. But now Louisville's going to play Cincinnati in

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<v Speaker 1>a two year series starting this year. First game will

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<v Speaker 1>be in December this year in Cincinnati, and then next

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<v Speaker 1>year Cincinnati will come to Louisville, but not to play

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<v Speaker 1>in the UMP Center, but to play in Freedom Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>So the game this year is going to be at

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<v Speaker 1>Heritage Bank Center in downtown Cincinnati, which is not Cincinnati's

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<v Speaker 1>typical home arena. I don't think I could be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about that, but I certainly know that Freedom Hall is

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<v Speaker 1>not where Louisville plays basketball games anymore. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if they played this at the UM Center, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine with it. I mean I would have expected that,

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<v Speaker 1>but now that that it's at Freedom Hall, I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine with it. And I don't want to act

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<v Speaker 1>as if like there's been some like big uproar, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least some you know, Louis of fans that I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I talk to you, that I'm friends with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they were of the opinion that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of seems like a force like Freedom Hall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there may be some nostalgia, but like it's a dump

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the Ump Center. We closed out the Yumps,

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<v Speaker 1>or we closed out Freedom Hall in perfect fashion. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to go back there, and like that's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody's entitled in their opinion. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>really see any harm in playing there. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that, you know, whatever happens when Cincinnati comes to

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Hall next season, not the upcoming season, but the

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<v Speaker 1>season after in twenty twenty six, like if you think

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happens might ruin your lasting impression of Freedom Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>like I would, I would like to think that you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be wrong. I mean, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that for certain, but when Kyle Kuric shut down

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Hall, I was sixteen, fifteen years ago, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was like that wasn't It's been a long time, And

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<v Speaker 1>watching the TBT team play at Freedom Hall that certainly

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<v Speaker 1>provided some nostalgia, but like it didn't, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make me think about the way we actually closed

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<v Speaker 1>that place now, which you know, the more time that passes,

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<v Speaker 1>the more that seems like something you see in a movie. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville was not safely in the tournament. They were not

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<v Speaker 1>having a very good season to the standard Patino had

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<v Speaker 1>set for many years prior to that, and they got Syracuse,

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<v Speaker 1>who by the way, like, do people remember that Syracuse?

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't they the number one team in the country when

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<v Speaker 1>they came to close out Freedom Hall? I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to look that up because they were up there. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>they were, I mean they were. They were because Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>swept him that year and that was the year they

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<v Speaker 1>were really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what got us into the tournament that year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I just said, yeah, they Okay, the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't safely in the tournament. You're playing your last

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<v Speaker 1>game there, and you weren't having a good season, as

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, compared to what Rick had set the standard

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<v Speaker 1>for and it was a pretty competitive game throughout, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, Louisville took over because of

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<v Speaker 1>one man. And that man's name was Kyle Kurrick, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that point he was pretty unknown, and he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even on scholarship. I don't think, so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any like Louisville could play two games

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<v Speaker 1>at Freedom Hall and lose and it wouldn't change how

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<v Speaker 1>I view how we shut that place down, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>been gone for a long time, and that was such

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<v Speaker 1>an epic sendoff, and I mean it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was cinematic how that worked out. And I remember he

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<v Speaker 1>was known for this because he just had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of energy and I love this guy. Man that era was,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know what they were really good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was part of it. But when I really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like i'd stopped playing basketball because I realize, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to play college basketball if it meant

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<v Speaker 1>being the eighteenth guy on the roster at like the

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<v Speaker 1>Division three level. So once I decided I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to not do that, and you know, didn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to do, I fell in love with

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<v Speaker 1>Louell hoops all over again in a crazy way to

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<v Speaker 1>where I just decided, Okay, I want to write about

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<v Speaker 1>this team. I want to cover him like I you

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<v Speaker 1>know here I am today. But that era around that time,

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<v Speaker 1>like two thousand and seven to really on. But Jerry Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I think of the final game of

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Hall, I think of Jerry Smith, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he might have got hurt, but I remember him waving

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<v Speaker 1>the towel like crazy, because that's what Jerry did. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>was going to whip that towel around and it was

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was. He was bringing the energy and

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<v Speaker 1>again it's all kind of coming together. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>might have I think Kyle might have played because Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>was hurt. A lot of mixed in that game. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was not a good year by any means. In

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<v Speaker 1>the next game we saw them, I think they got

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<v Speaker 1>bounced early in the Big East Tournament, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>also got bounced by Cal. Whish We talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>game whenever Cal came to town, because that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>memory I have of Cal basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember whose game it was, rakeeen Buckles.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so proud that you knew that when I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to tell you that. When we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it's one of the moments where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, he does he's one of me. He's he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's like me, I get it because we else,

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<v Speaker 1>Well remember that random thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there, go a man if

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<v Speaker 3>if the rest of the team can match Rackeem's energy,

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<v Speaker 3>then when we have a shot. Even though like any

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<v Speaker 3>normal fan that wasn't Pie in the sky like I was,

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<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, this game's over, kind of like the

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<v Speaker 3>year before when we got eliminated by Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 4>YEP.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like a lot of it seems like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fans I've talked to was like, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>just wasn't Louisville's game. And there's a I guess a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of stuff going on with Terrence Williams behind the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just sitting there, like halftime, I think Preston

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<v Speaker 3>Knowles was having a game of his life, like that

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<v Speaker 3>was a huge comeout game for Preston Noles.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there thinking art makes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense because it was probably him doing enough. But nobody

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<v Speaker 1>like what you're thinking. Where's everybody else et?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well everybody could get going and they could just

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<v Speaker 3>match p Ka's energy right here, we'll have shot and

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<v Speaker 3>it just it never never never maticulated, matriculated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the the Freedom Hall. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not someone that it's been like, hey, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to play a game at Freedom Hall because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we need it for nostalgia. But here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>believe is probably gonna be the scenario here is that

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<v Speaker 1>this will not be a because the biggest issue to

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<v Speaker 1>where like why don't we play one game of your

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Hall? It's because season ticket holders, like how would

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<v Speaker 1>you like, you know, there's not as many seats at

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Hall and you wouldn't be able to get everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the same seat. So where what's happened now is

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<v Speaker 1>that they've this this is how you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. This is this is considered a neutral site series.

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<v Speaker 1>You're playing louis Louisville's playing Cincinnati, and Cincinnati not at

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<v Speaker 1>their home arena. Cincinnati is coming to Louisville to play Louisville,

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<v Speaker 1>but not at the Yum. And that's where like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how it's gonna work as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the money, but like this is probably then this

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the fairgrounds event. Like I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you again, I don't know if you've got like a

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<v Speaker 1>contract or whatnot, but like U of L will probably

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<v Speaker 1>be able to sell tickets, but like, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a home game for either, because that's how you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, because if you have season tickets, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just say, okay, well, hey, only the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>only premiere season ticket holders get access to this game.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's truly a neutral site game in every aspect

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<v Speaker 1>other than the fact that you know it's not because

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing in Louisville, whereas you know you would assume

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess, I guess maybe the scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>that you would get a more mixed crowd because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not anybody that's going to be at either game

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<v Speaker 1>that's there because of a season ticket. So yeah, Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>right now in this upcoming season is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the non conference portion of their schedule. Kentucky, Indiana, Memphis, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>is clearly some real connections in every aspect to every

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<v Speaker 1>one of those opponents. And look, that's the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>especially if it's a good team. But when there's familiarity,

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<v Speaker 1>there's history, and there's rivalry, which clearly there is between Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, I'm sure there's more to it than just him,

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<v Speaker 1>it this way. This is the best way I can

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not season tickets holders, unless they're just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's really just whenever it's convenient for them or

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<v Speaker 1>whenever it's a big game. Having games against Memphis, Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>we played them last year, Like those are games that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now than it ever has when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>non conference because the ACC obviously taken some steps back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the College Football Playoff is going to change,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've only had it one year as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the College Football Playoff Spring meetings, and this came out

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<v Speaker 1>from Ross Ellinger, who I would say it is probably

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<v Speaker 1>college football playoff conference realignment, that kind of stuff. He

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<v Speaker 1>used to work. He's worked for a lot of folks.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to be at Sports Illustrated. Now he's at Yahoo,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the one who reported that as sixteen team

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<v Speaker 1>college football playoff bracket has gained big time support, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's mostly from the Big Ten of the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>which again, like I don't know, I just I feel

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, this is big news, but like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just to me, this is becoming a popularity

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<v Speaker 1>contest more than anything else, and that's just sad to me, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly you got to win, like you can't be terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I assumed what happen is apparently happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is that there's going to be guaranteed automatic bids

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<v Speaker 1>for four teams from the SEC, four from the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 1>two from the ACC, two from the Big twelve, one

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<v Speaker 1>from the G six, which what is G six, it's

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<v Speaker 1>G five. There's only four conferences.

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<v Speaker 2>There's fly like a G six. You remember that song.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess it's now power four and the G

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<v Speaker 1>six is what it used to be called the G five. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, now, I get it. The PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 1>is being told you can call yourself the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're not power five, it's power four now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is true. Like anybody worth a dam in the PAC

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<v Speaker 1>twelve got taken, you know what I mean, Like Oregon

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<v Speaker 1>up some bombs from the Mountain West and the WCC

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're Power five two, Like, no, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what that means. So there's now G six

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<v Speaker 1>and only one team from those is going to get in. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could get in as an at lard,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's one guaranteed slot for Boise, for an app State,

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<v Speaker 1>for a Memphis something like that. But the at largest

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<v Speaker 1>can be anybody. So like if there was a year

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<v Speaker 1>where there were two teams from the so, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>one of the at largest has got to be Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>right has to be? So really in years like Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>if Notre Dame stinks and they're six and six and

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't get in so therefore there'd be three at

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<v Speaker 1>largs and I guess technically one of those at large

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<v Speaker 1>could be another G six. But here's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna happen. You're gonna get You know, clearly we

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<v Speaker 1>know four from the SEC, four from the Big Twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and the likelihood of the three at larges going to

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<v Speaker 1>a Big twelve or an ACC team non existent. I mean, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's popularity. They want to talk about viewership being

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<v Speaker 1>a factor being part of the criteria to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest, in recent years, like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that there's been enough from the ACC or the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Twelve to where like they're gonna they're getting screwed,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to know that you can be terrible, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC coaches could collectively get together and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all want to take the year off. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tired, we ran out of money to pay

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<v Speaker 1>players other than the REV share, We're going to automatically

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<v Speaker 1>get four in any way, Like, let's just do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like guaranteeing four spots in this college football Playoff before

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<v Speaker 1>any game is played to any team in any conference

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<v Speaker 1>is insanity and it is absolutely the biggest step made

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<v Speaker 1>in college football. To make it quite clear, it's based

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<v Speaker 1>off of popularity in brand more than it is results.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this is. And I'm aware that there could

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<v Speaker 1>be no guaranteed spots and it still play out this

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<v Speaker 1>exact way. I know that at least lie to me,

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<v Speaker 1>make me think that it was based off of what

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that these teams earned, regardless of what conference

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<v Speaker 1>they're in. And this is not an this is not

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<v Speaker 1>an ACC thing from my end, meaning I'm not here

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<v Speaker 1>acting like the ACC is gonna get robbed and gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get screwed. I mean they are if they're good, because

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<v Speaker 1>they won't get Like anybody agreeing to this, you're agreeing

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<v Speaker 1>that moving forward, no matter what happens, those leagues are

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<v Speaker 1>just better and they probably will be. Or maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like maybe Nick Saban comes out of retirement

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<v Speaker 1>and takes over at Virginia Tech. Maybe Kirby Smart gets arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>gets fired, then he gets hired at Miami. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>giving you crazy hypotheticals here, but I'm just saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>if in fact those things happen, it wouldn't matter because

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<v Speaker 1>ACC's only slotted too. Like think about that, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying before a season starts, results don't matter. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>we do that if you truly believe that you are

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, dominant as you are in football, which

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<v Speaker 1>timing isn't great here because last year things played out

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<v Speaker 1>to where you didn't do anything out of conference to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that you deserve the benefit of the doubt, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>you can be an eight and four nine and three

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<v Speaker 1>team in the SEC and you can live in delusional

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<v Speaker 1>world of like, well that means we basically would have

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<v Speaker 1>been eleven and one in any other league. Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>you played teams from other leagues and you lost or

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<v Speaker 1>you lost to teams in your league that everybody knows, thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, you know, if you really do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you are as dominant as you think you are, then like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you need the guarantees? Just go be badass?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you claim you are. And again, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to sound like a hypocrite because if you're Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Sank and this is what you're fighting for, you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>your job. I mean, hell, Greg SANKI would he be

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<v Speaker 1>out of line to request all twelve. I'm sorry all

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen be SEC teams, Like, I mean, that's not realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>But like his job is to advocate for his conference,

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<v Speaker 1>his league. So I mean, if you're the ACC or

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve, you can be real with yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>know that right now you are behind. But agreeing to this,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your incentive to even go out and get better.

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<v Speaker 1>You're slotted it too, they got two more than you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what like why would you agree to this? You

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<v Speaker 1>could get substantially better and you'll still know that no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, the are getting double up to what you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting in in the playoff. I just I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand how this this makes. I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense for the SEC and the Big ten

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get away like if if it if

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<v Speaker 1>it it's what if they agree to it? But like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know what kind of leverage did the ACC

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<v Speaker 1>and the Big twelve have?

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<v Speaker 2>Not much?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But at some point, like if you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lie to me and tell me that it's all based

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<v Speaker 1>off of like what teams did and how you evaluate them,

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<v Speaker 1>not by predetermined slots set up for each conference at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount, then just tell us it's popularity. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always gonna watch college football because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>a scenario where I wouldn't. I love it. But like

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is take this is making it to

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like it's not really about what you do,

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<v Speaker 1>like because you can do whatever and it won't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if that gets you know, approved, then Also,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're in the like if you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC and you're like a Kentucky, I mean, you're never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get one of the four, right, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's only chance and Mississippi State's only chance is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the at largest and you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to get in based off of like again benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of the doubt, Like, well you played in the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah you weren't. Like imagine any world where you're

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<v Speaker 1>not one of the four best teams in your league,

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<v Speaker 1>but you get a chance in the playoff over a

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<v Speaker 1>team that might have been, like, you know, the second

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<v Speaker 1>best team in their league. Again, because results don't matter. Affiliation, popularity,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's about. Now, all right, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk about the Bill Belichick situation, because despite

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<v Speaker 1>coach a game there. It's not gonna happen. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 5>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 1>So in about an hour, we were gonna do our

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day draft. We're not drafting New Moms, but I

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, but with Mother's Day coming up

416
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<v Speaker 1>and I love implementing different drafts to the show, Austin

417
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<v Speaker 1>and I are going to do a draft of TV Moms.

418
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<v Speaker 1>Let's go our favorite mothers that we you know, enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>through a television show.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of good ones out there.

421
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's uh, there's I mean, there'll

422
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<v Speaker 1>be some that don't get that don't get picked, but

423
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<v Speaker 1>are certainly worthy of maybe a free agent type contract,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>O DFA board is gonna be uh, it's gonna be

426
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<v Speaker 3>pretty wild.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Because in most I mean there aren't many There are

428
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<v Speaker 1>not many television shows that I can think of where

429
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<v Speaker 1>there was ever any like way of making a like

430
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<v Speaker 1>mom's never a bad character, and if they are at

431
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<v Speaker 1>times seeming like it, there's always that level of life.

432
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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you an example, this one. I don't

433
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<v Speaker 1>think we'll be drafted by either of us, but Skyler

434
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<v Speaker 1>in Breaking Bad, Walter White's wife, she's the worst and

435
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<v Speaker 1>very easy to hate. But throughout the show. For me,

436
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<v Speaker 1>and it's been many, many many years since I watched you,

437
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>at times would would have a moment of like, well,

438
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<v Speaker 1>I totally get while she's acting like she's acting like,

439
00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.640
<v Speaker 1>look what's going on in her world? But you know,

440
00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:10.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a TV show, so you kind of get lost

441
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<v Speaker 1>in it and you know, don't really consider you know.

442
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<v Speaker 3>Something's always been kind of hot about Skyler to me,

443
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why.

444
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<v Speaker 1>You might be the first person I've ever heard say that.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Not that I found her to be repulsive or anything

446
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<v Speaker 1>like that. I've just never heard anybody say that, because

447
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>anytime she's ever been talked about that I know of,

448
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>it's been people like, oh, she sucks. Although yet she

449
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<v Speaker 1>was more popular than her sister, Hank's wife. What was

450
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<v Speaker 1>her name?

451
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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

452
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, she was very easy to hate. Oh was it Christine? Maybe? No,

453
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<v Speaker 1>it was I'm gonna look at a Walter White's sister

454
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<v Speaker 1>or not Walter White.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, give me a second, because it's it's always

456
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<v Speaker 2>on my as.

457
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<v Speaker 1>I found it. It's a real easy name.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Marie Murray. I knew it was Murray. I knew it.

459
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But am I wrong? I mean, I haven't watched

460
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<v Speaker 1>that show in so long.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I didn't like Marie.

462
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Most people didn't. But nobody likes Skyler.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's true.

464
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like her either, But in perspective, there's some

465
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<v Speaker 3>just like you said. That's I kind of get it.

466
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<v Speaker 3>I kind of get why she's sort of act in

467
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<v Speaker 3>that way. But she went about.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Things and executed things terribly the wrong way during the show.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Every character in that show, from start to finish, had

470
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<v Speaker 1>moments of you not liking them, Yes, every one of them,

471
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<v Speaker 1>even Walter. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's that's to me. That's

472
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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. That's what makes a great TV show

473
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<v Speaker 1>and a TV character is that someone who you find charismatic,

474
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<v Speaker 1>you find ways to I mean, you don't even realize

475
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<v Speaker 1>it why you're doing anying, because you know you're watching TV,

476
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<v Speaker 1>but like you don't have any ability to take a

477
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<v Speaker 1>step back and realize that despite this person seeming like,

478
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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of funny or interesting or maybe even

479
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<v Speaker 1>understandable as to why they're the way they are in

480
00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>your world, most people would be like, this guy's like me,

481
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<v Speaker 1>give it. I don't know if you ever watched this

482
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 1>show Shameless, have you ever seen it?

483
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<v Speaker 2>You know what it is.

484
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Frank Gallagher is the perfect example of why I kept that.

485
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean that show and they ended up I mean

486
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>it didn't it needed to end like three seasons before that,

487
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it before it did. But he is one of my

488
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<v Speaker 1>favorite characters. But in every aspect he's an absolute piece

489
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<v Speaker 1>of garbage. He's a human and like, you know that,

490
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<v Speaker 1>but then you kind of like see that you know,

491
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<v Speaker 1>there's like a level of wanting to find some good

492
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:31.319
<v Speaker 1>just like the people in the show do, like they

493
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<v Speaker 1>don't want this brother father husband to be the way

494
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>they are, you know. So moms, though, I feel like

495
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<v Speaker 1>there's not been a whole lot of range with mothers

496
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<v Speaker 1>and TV shows, even ones that are like a little rough,

497
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like they're usually like, let me give you another example

498
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<v Speaker 1>of a mom that I just when I watched this show,

499
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>she was my least favorite character. But like if I

500
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>ever kind of sat back and you know, tried to

501
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.640
<v Speaker 1>envision you know, her situation in the real world, not

502
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<v Speaker 1>on TV, like I would get watched she is the

503
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<v Speaker 1>way she is the mom and everybody loves Raymond. I

504
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:06.759
<v Speaker 1>mean her her name was also Marie, like like, you know,

505
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>her husband was a real dumbass, you know what I mean, Like,

506
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and her reaction her, you know, her on

507
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the show was very justified given that you know, she

508
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>had who she had as in laws and her husband

509
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 1>was a real dufust you know. It's just that show.

510
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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that show. Oh my god, yes, like that show.

511
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me give you that show was on and it

512
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:32.319
<v Speaker 1>was really actually it might have been the reruns. At

513
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the time, it was really big whenever I watched it.

514
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>But I do remember it being on live when I

515
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 1>was young, but the majority of what I watched was

516
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 1>after it had already come to an end. But I uh,

517
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, nowadays with all the all the streaming platforms

518
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and just I mean I could, I could. I don't

519
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>think I'll ever need a network TV show to watch,

520
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>just because there's all kinds of different platforms that have

521
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>all endless stuff you can find. But we went to

522
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>vacation a couple of years back and we took my mama,

523
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>who you know, she's she's now close to ninety years old,

524
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, she she watches a lot of those shows,

525
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and she just kept it on in her in the

526
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>area of the house that we rented near the beach

527
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>in Jacky Island, and she just she watched a lot.

528
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it was TV Land. She kept it on

529
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>TV Land and they played, they played Everybody Loves Raymond

530
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.799
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like, twenty four hours a day. And

531
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 1>we would spend time with her and end up just

532
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of getting getting lost and binging in a little bit,

533
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>watching you know, four straight episodes. And I would never

534
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>seek it out, but like I've remembered, like I do,

535
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 1>like I like that show, Like that show is like

536
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's uh, I don't know if I watched

537
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it for the first time now that I would enjoy it,

538
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>But there's some nostalgia to it, but also like to me,

539
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't And they probably make sitcoms the same exact

540
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>way now And maybe I'm just now spoiled to where

541
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't like I can find other stuff

542
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that's more interesting to me. But no, Everybody Loves Raymond

543
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is a good show, and I can't believe it's been

544
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 1>off the air as long as it has. Where does

545
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>time go? It's crazy? All right, So let's talk about

546
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 1>the Bill Belichick situation. So it's really just seemingly been

547
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>a never ending run here where every day there's a

548
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>new story that, like you just assume is true about

549
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>his twenty four year old girlfriend who's really controlling, you know,

550
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>seemingly his whole life. It was Pablo Torre who put

551
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 1>it out there, I believe, on a podcast that came

552
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>out this morning. Yeah, Pablo Torre. Pablo Torre finds out

553
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>as the name of his show, and whatever latest episode

554
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 1>they did, it was released earlier today, and it included

555
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>him saying that North Carolina the university has basically banned

556
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Hudson from any from their football facilities.

557
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>And all that.

558
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 1>In fact, let me see if I can get this

559
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to play for you. This might actually here we go.

560
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 4>A couple of breaking news updates since what has happened

561
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 4>publicly since we last gathered Number One, okay, two sources

562
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 4>at the University of North Carolina tell me that there

563
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 4>has been a decision was made last week by the

564
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 4>higher ups inside the athletic department that had hired Bill

565
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 4>Belichick to be the highest paid public employee, not just coach,

566
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 4>in the state of North Carolina, at ten million dollars

567
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 4>a year, and that decision was that Jordan Hudson is

568
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.400
<v Speaker 4>no longer allowed in the football building.

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00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 1>She is not allowed on the football field. Quote. Don't

570
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>think you'll be hearing much from Jordan moving forward.

571
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 5>Dang not the building.

572
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm so. That of course, got a lot of reaction,

573
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 1>and within the hours of it being a real story

574
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and really just a development within the story, North Carolina

575
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 1>released a statement basically saying that that wasn't true and

576
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't let me see if I can find the

577
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 1>actual their actual statement, because I mean the fact that

578
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 1>they have to release statements about this is insane and

579
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.319
<v Speaker 1>it has to be I mean, it has to be

580
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 1>something that like deep down they realize, is that, like

581
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 1>they this isn't worth it, right, even if they're having

582
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 1>to correct things like this, these things aren't going away.

583
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing anybody could say about Bill Belichick, seventy something

584
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 1>year old man and his twenty four year old girlfriend

585
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 1>and what we know now as far as what's been

586
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>put out before all this, like you're gonna have to

587
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>keep doing this because there's not going away. This thing

588
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>has created a life of its own, and you have

589
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.039
<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself do you keep like why keep doing this?

590
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>What's the payout? What makes it? And even if it

591
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 1>is in fact like all an exaggeration, what do you expect?

592
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>You hired a seventy something year old guy who's no

593
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 1>longer coaching, who's now I mean, like him being interested

594
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 1>in coaching in college should have been a red flag

595
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to Carolina, like what are you doing here? Bill? What

596
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 1>do you need this for?

597
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

598
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>And he might not have had an answer until he

599
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>got one from Jordan, So Carolina did say that that's

600
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>not true. Kind of here's what they said, quote, while

601
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Jordan's not an employe at the University of Carolina, she

602
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>is welcome to the Carolina football facilities. Jordan will continue

603
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to manage all activities related to Coach Belichick's personal brand

604
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>outside of his responsibilities for Carolina Football in the university.

605
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>So they're saying that she's welcome, and they're clarifying in

606
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 1>there that she's responsible for his personal brand outside. Why

607
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 1>not just say she's not responsible for it, she doesn't

608
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 1>have anything to do with And you kind of did

609
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 1>by saying she's not an employee. But like, this thing

610
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>is a mess. And here's what Like all the stories

611
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>we've heard about her forcing her way into that dunkin

612
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Donuts commercial, at the time, nobody knew it was just

613
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>some hot chick that was, you know in the commercial

614
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon and Bill Belichick and

615
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>they're just playing into the Boston stuff. You know who

616
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>else was in that commercial, randomly Jack Harlowe. They brought

617
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>out all the stars. Well she's in it, and nobody

618
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 1>knew at the time that was Belichick's girlfriend. Well, now

619
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>we see her in there and like the stories come out,

620
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we remember her. She wasn't supposed to be

621
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>in it. She forced her way in and we knew

622
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to get Bill in it, which Bill Belichick

623
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>being in that commercial at that time was huge. I mean,

624
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 1>he was fresh off he just got done I think coaching.

625
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he might have.

626
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>He might have.

627
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 1>He might not have even been done coaching New England

628
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 1>when that was filmed, to be honest with you. So

629
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 1>there's that. And then now we hear about Belichick doing

630
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a commercial where there were girls in bikinis. Have you

631
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>heard this one, Austin. No, Yeah, he did a commercial

632
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 1>where there was like girls in bikinis that were like

633
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 1>part of like you know, the shoot, and she got jealous,

634
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>so she went and put on a bikini and showed

635
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>up too and tried to get in the commercial as well.

636
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>And or maybe wasn't. Maybe it's just a photo shoot.

637
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was. Like it was a

638
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.119
<v Speaker 1>brand deal that he did, basically him, but probably something

639
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>she arranged because she wants his money. But there were

640
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>girls in bikinis and she put on a bikini and

641
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>like either she was in it as well or Here's

642
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>what it was. She told them that if she wanted

643
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to be in a bikini, to keep his attention because

644
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 1>if not, he'd be distracted. Like what so here, here's

645
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 1>what we now know with Carolina. And maybe they can

646
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 1>get away with saying, well, we have to we have

647
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to respond to things that aren't true about our program

648
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and our decisions. But I happen to think that if

649
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 1>they knew for certain that all these things we're hearing

650
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>about her in the last two weeks aren't true, they'd

651
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>be letting us know, wouldn't they. So Like, if you're

652
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 1>going to correct this but not correct the other stuff, again,

653
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you may have the gray area of well that's their

654
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 1>personal stuff. Either way, it's your ball, coach. Like I mean,

655
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>this is this is an absolute circus. Like I don't

656
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>know any Carolina football fans, and I'm not saying that

657
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 1>to make fun. I'm being serious. I don't know any.

658
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I know some that are Carolina basketball fans, but they're

659
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>just bandwagon fans who like Michael Jordan or something and

660
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to, you know, be a Louisvere or Kentucky fan.

661
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>But like, your your program is TMZ in football right now.

662
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>But here's here's what tells me that this will end

663
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 1>before he coaches the game. And I don't know why

664
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 1>there's not more attention on this. Remember his buyout that

665
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>he was all, you know, real like fighting, like they

666
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>were trying to say, like, look, you know we're not

667
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna hire if you're going to go to the NFL. Well,

668
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>they ended up getting him to agree to an adjusted

669
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 1>buyout that that would limit him from getting a last

670
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 1>minute an NFL job, right, So in thirty days, and

671
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 1>in fact less than thirty days, his buyout drops from

672
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>ten million to one million. And Bubba Cunningham, who's the

673
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 1>ad who's been at odds with the school and the

674
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 1>board there for a while, including with the Hubert Davis situation,

675
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he's now linked to the Michigan State athletic director job.

676
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>He goes to Michigan State to get out of this

677
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>mess with Hubert and Bill Belichick. Like, to be honest,

678
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 1>Carolina is a mess. Hubert Davis is not bringing any

679
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>shame and embarrassment to their program, but he ain't good

680
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>enough to be their coach and that's been proven in

681
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years. And so this offseason they've

682
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>gotten worse in my opinion, So Bubba Cunningham's gone. Whoever

683
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.079
<v Speaker 1>takes over, it's a million dollars to cut your losses

684
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 1>with Belichick and then you start fresh, and then you

685
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 1>probably get rid of Hubert Davis at some point. Like

686
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that's probably what's gonna happen, because that makes too much

687
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>sense not to happen, not to play out that way

688
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>given what's going on. I mean, you could, I mean

689
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 1>promote Lonnie Galloway. Not Lonnie Galloway. He's not there anymore.

690
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he let he did leave Louisville for Carolina.

691
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm meant to say Grek McGee, like Geric McGee

692
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>left Louisville staff to go be on Belichick's staff, does

693
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>make him head coach, he'll be just as good because

694
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Belichick is not really there. Clearly his family's even concerned

695
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>now that like this is something right here, So I mean,

696
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>there's really nothing. Look at this point, you can just

697
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>understand as a university people could make up all kinds

698
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 1>of nonsense and it's nonsense, but like you no longer

699
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>have any ability to can control the narrative here, So

700
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>cut your losses. I mean, to me, it's an easy decision,

701
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't be shocked if what you know, the

702
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 1>whole Bubba Cunningham and the buyout, like I think that'll

703
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>lead to this thing just dying soon. All right, quick break,

704
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and wrap up the four o'clock hour

705
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly, and then we got the five o'clock hour

706
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 1>before we get out here for the weekend. So stick

707
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.079
<v Speaker 1>around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

708
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 5>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

709
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 5>Sports Talk seven nine day.

710
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.599
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if the Pacers can get off to a

711
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 1>three and oh start tonight. They're at home after stealing

712
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean really stealing game game two. They got game

713
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>one without a whole lot of controversy. But that comeback

714
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>against the Calves, I think it might have killed Cleveland,

715
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>but we shall see, we shall see. But tomorrow it

716
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 1>is Celtics Knicks in New York and Austin. Do you

717
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>have any any feel, any care at all for like

718
00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Knicks fans? Like, do you do you like are they

719
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>ever to or do you like them? Not like them? Indifferent? Whatever?

720
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I like them better than Celtics fans, I think, I mean,

721
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't actually thought about it the other night. I

722
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>don't like either of these teams really right, and the

723
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Celtics are pretty easy for me to dislike, But it's

724
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>really not for any it's you know, it's not for

725
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>any real specific reason. But the Knicks. There was a

726
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.119
<v Speaker 1>time where I used to kind of admire the Knicks because,

727
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>like I and honestly, to be fair, they have proven

728
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 1>that if they have any little bit of momentum, like

729
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get a lot of attention because they're in

730
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the biggest market and their fans they have a lot

731
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of them. But they're they're like the biggest front running

732
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>franchise in my lifetime in any sport because they've never

733
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>accomplished anything in my life and anytime they have any

734
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>real big, like burst of momentum, they're always humbled and

735
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, belittled, but like they don't ever take their medicine.

736
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 1>They just still, you know, like the Knicks would the

737
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Knicks behavior after a win, players fans top to bottom

738
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 1>would make you think that they've won thirteen rings in

739
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the last twenty years. Yeah, and they don't. They don't

740
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>have any accomplishments to show like they Patrick Ewing is

741
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the best Nick of my lifetime, and he never made

742
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 1>it to the finals. I mean, you know, like they've

743
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 1>they've been really bad for a long time, with way

744
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>better resources than most because they're the Knicks in New

745
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>York City. And I do think this team, like Jalen

746
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Brunson is, I respect the hell out of them. I

747
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>think he's a really good player. But you know the

748
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>other good players who again are good, deserve their credit,

749
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>but like they're easy to dislike. I mean, Josh Hartz,

750
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate, he's on your team, hell yeah, if not yet,

751
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't like him. So I don't like either of

752
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>these teams. But the Knicks, man, when you know they've

753
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>got they probably in a weird way. Although I think

754
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people have to be bandwagon because

755
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>what part of their life, Like did the Knicks give

756
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>them great memories to make them huge fans? But they've

757
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>got a ton of celebrity fans and Spike right, he doesn't,

758
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't need to check his credentials. We

759
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 1>know he's I mean, he's a lifer, like he'll never

760
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 1>not rep the Knicks at any moment, right. And then

761
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>there's others that like I just remember always being around,

762
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>like Ben Stiller, believe it or not, of all people

763
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 1>like he's he's a diehard Knicks fan and it's been

764
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty clear. But they play tomorrow in New York City

765
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and the cheapest resale ticket to get into the Garden

766
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>is six hundred dollars. That's insane, and it's because you

767
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 1>know they're up to Oh, they've had more momentum now

768
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 1>than ever and uh, you know, everybody wants to be

769
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 1>there and they'll be. I guarantee you there'll be more

770
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>celebrities at that game than any NBA playoff game we've

771
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>had in a long time. I mean that, even more

772
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 1>than La even more when the Lakers and Lebron were

773
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 1>on a round. I mean it because it's just different

774
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:46.280
<v Speaker 1>with New York.

775
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I listen. I love New York, love the Garden,

776
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 3>love MSG. I mean you talk about walking into a

777
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 3>place and just feeling the history. But like, like you said,

778
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.280
<v Speaker 3>what what other kind of like normal fans are are

779
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 3>going to that game that for six hundred dollars a ticket.

780
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:05.000
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

781
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.679
<v Speaker 1>And last year I was really into the playoffs for

782
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 1>one series more than I've been in a long time

783
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 1>because it was the Knicks. There's a history there, Like

784
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching Reggie tell Spike Lee, you know you

785
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 1>all choke, can you believe it? Like the Knicks were,

786
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:21.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, the bad guys, and I'm a Pacers fan,

787
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and when they got off to a lead last year

788
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 1>against the Pacers, and Josh Hart while Reggie was live

789
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>on the broadcast, ran over and started talking crap to

790
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Reggie while he was on live TV, just being like

791
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks. And then we come back and get him

792
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 1>in Game seven to end the series in New York,

793
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and like nobody talked about.

794
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>It, and that just forgot about it.

795
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.199
<v Speaker 1>It pained me because it's just part of like the

796
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>full proof that like market matters, meaning right, if you

797
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to prop up the Knicks, do it.

798
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But like they got humbled because they were talking reckless.

799
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 1>They felt like they'd won the series. They were trying

800
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to punk the Pacers, and the Pacers went into the

801
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 1>garden in Game seven and never never led by less

802
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 1>than double figures outside the first few minutes.

803
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I feel like last year I pumped them.

804
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 3>That rivalry really got restored, especially when you're talking about

805
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:13.679
<v Speaker 3>like between Tyree.

806
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But nobody talked about it because the narrative is that

807
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>we just got to prop up the next because the Knicks. No,

808
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you're right, and the Pacers punked them. And the Pacers

809
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>also gave away two games just they the Pacers should

810
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>have been up to zero against the Celtics to start

811
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Conference. At the Eastern Conference was the finals

812
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.039
<v Speaker 1>of the Simmis. Last year, it was the Simmis because

813
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 1>they went on to play Boston. Right, No, who did

814
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Boston beat in the finals of the Eastern Conference Finals?

815
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the Pacers. The Spacers didn't make the East

816
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Conference finals. But either way, Milwaukee maybe, but I know,

817
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Boston beat Indy and they swept them, actually I believe,

818
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>but the Pacers freaking had it. I mean at least

819
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>two of the first four games the Pacers honestly kind

820
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of I guess that's the good part about being a

821
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Pacers fan. No matter what you do, if it's sensational

822
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 1>or if it's bad in a bad way, like you're

823
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>not relevant enough for it to be in people's memory.

824
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Cause again, like that was a big deal last year

825
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that the Knicks got all cocky like they were back,

826
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>they're about to, you know, back from what they've never

827
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 1>been good in forty years, but like they're you know,

828
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>New York is here, and then you get humbled by

829
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, in Game seven in your house right and

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<v Speaker 1>stephen A. Smith melted down and cried like a little girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, all forgotten because you know it makes

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<v Speaker 1>me I'm if you can't tell them. I'm dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the realization that, like my teams that I love in

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<v Speaker 1>pro sports, market size matters, and the Colts are never

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big attraction for a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither are the Pacers. So you got to build up

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<v Speaker 1>and draft. And we got lucky with the Colts with

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<v Speaker 1>the draft with Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're screwed. And then with the Pacers, like I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing absolutely in all honesty, the Pacers as an

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<v Speaker 1>organization have always done the best they could. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>we were in phenomenal shape to win rings, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron decided, you want to go to Miami, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron in Miami was the scariest Lebron we ever watched.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody remembers that he embraced being

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<v Speaker 1>a villain. He wore a mask, looked like Batman, at

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<v Speaker 1>times out there, like he couldn't believe people hated him

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<v Speaker 1>because of the decision, and like Miami Lebron after year

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<v Speaker 1>one there, when Dirk got his ring in Dallas that

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<v Speaker 1>next year, it was it was scary times for Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami and like we just couldn't get past him.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a damn good team with Roy Hibbert. Lance

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<v Speaker 1>Stevenson was a big part of that team. Obviously our

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<v Speaker 1>main guy was Paul George at the time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't work out. So I'll quick crying about it

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<v Speaker 1>because I know none of you all care. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to a break. We'll come back and finish strong here

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<v Speaker 1>on a Friday, gets you out of here for Mother's

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<v Speaker 1>Day weekend. On Sports Talk seven ninety
