WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:03.759 It is cold out there this morning. Temperatures in the loath. 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:07.240 Into at another hour of the Saturday morning edition on 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.000 seven under WLW four this Saturday, April the twelfth, twenty 4 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:13.480 twenty five. Shout out to my friend Scott Schneider and 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:18.079 Steve Krebs. Thanks for the the back at you this morning, 6 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:19.800 eight minutes after the hour. 7 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:23.280 And I guess it's Science Mike time. What do you say? 8 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:30.160 Little science minute from Science Mike on a Saturday. Why now, 9 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:32.399 I'll buy. 10 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:38.479 Yes as a night scientist is a bit surprising it 11 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:42.000 to well blinded me, Michael, Good morning. This rounds on me. 12 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:45.719 Oh, Gary Jeff, did you have RECEIPTPOL when mom was driving? 13 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.439 Yes, of course, but it wasn't because mom was driving. 14 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:54.520 It was because it's the law. And also she asked 15 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:57.200 me to put my seatbelt on just in case. 16 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:00.920 Hey, shout out to Dick from Day. If you're listening 17 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.399 to Dick, there's a ukulele concert tomorrow at the taff 18 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.040 Theater downtown. I didn't know if you're going to tend 19 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:08.879 or not. I get old, Gary, Jeff. I might might 20 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:10.319 just buy some popcorn down there. 21 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.280 We have a special surprise for Dick on his birthday. 22 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:18.319 Yeah, he called Uplift ten twenty and. 23 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:18.840 Spoke to. 24 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.079 The sports talk show. 25 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:26.519 Yeah the Extra innings. Yeah, yeah, he does. 26 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:31.680 Pascal Pascal Full Moon Tomorrow night four, eight, twenty two pm. 27 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:35.239 Just for because it's thirty pink flocks growing season, not 28 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:38.840 because it's bank or anything. Let's talk about the science 29 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.079 topic at hand real quick, Jared, Gary, Jeff. Let's go 30 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:45.920 back to the location. It's the right right Military Laboratory 31 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.640 in Dayton, Ohio and year the year is nineteen ninety four. 32 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:53.840 There's a group called the Sunshine Group project that they 33 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.760 have uncovered a three page document from the military where 34 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:04.680 they explored certain anti biological weapons to uh during any 35 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:09.039 any military conflict. Now, one of the weapons was a 36 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:12.599 bomb that had certain pheromones in it that when released, 37 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:16.960 would cause I'll say men to be attracted to each other. 38 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:19.479 UH so would be kind of kind of like a 39 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:24.879 gay bomb. Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, and this was documented. 40 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:29.400 They have the three page document published on their site. 41 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:32.599 And the theory was that they thought that the uh, 42 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:39.439 once the pheromone would enter the human body, that these 43 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.120 the men would be attracted and would break down unit morale. 44 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.759 And uh that's one of the theories behind the uh 45 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:51.280 this biological type of weapon. I was talking to an 46 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:57.639 associate at dinner last night, Tim and. 47 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.919 UH and and they and they and they dropped one 48 00:02:57.960 --> 00:02:59.960 in the middle of the table, and suddenly Tim became 49 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:01.439 very attracted to you. 50 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.199 No, no, no, we were talking about we think that 51 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:06.520 might be increased because of the increase of LGBT. There 52 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:10.240 may be another lamblick theory that possibly could be exposed to here. 53 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:11.000 That's interesting. 54 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:16.800 Yeah, so could explain things. But just one of those 55 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:20.080 interesting things just that you never know to you to 56 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:22.000 you read about it, you know, it's like you got 57 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.159 to kidd me, but hey, it's out there. 58 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:29.719 Well, I guess there's there's always something for there's always 59 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:31.719 something for the day, them amongst us. 60 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:36.879 Thank you, Mike, I'm not switching sides. And eighteen. 61 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:40.400 Time for a brief chat with our friend Doomsday Dave 62 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:44.719 the Mad Hatter some tech talk this morning, the mayor 63 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:48.159 of Fort Wright. I can't forget that Dave had her 64 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:48.759 good morning. 65 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.280 You didn't want to hear it yet. I always get. 66 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.599 Coffee, Always fine to talk to you, my friend. 67 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.199 You always got lots of information that scares the bejeebers 68 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:00.560 out of me. Let's go first to this thing called 69 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.159 car exploit, which allows you to spy on drivers in 70 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:04.800 real time. 71 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:06.120 What is this story all about. 72 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:10.360 Yeah, this is wild, but it's in my mind. It's 73 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.759 more important that people understand this could happen with any 74 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.040 kind of so called smart device, anything that's quote Internet 75 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.439 of Things, right, your coffee maker, your doorbell, your thermostat, 76 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.079 your toilet, and this is just another yes, anything that's smart. 77 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.120 And this is why I don't like these sort of devices, 78 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:30.800 because you know, their whole market approach is feed the market, 79 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.319 market share, ease of use as opposed to privacy and 80 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:36.120 security for you the consumer. And in this case, you 81 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:38.720 have a pioneer head unit. That's what you used to 82 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.160 call them back in the daycarey, Jeff, I'm sure remembernia 83 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.199 you would replace the factory head unit with some cool 84 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.399 pioneer black punk clary and whatever. Yeah, you know, believe 85 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:49.160 it or not, they still make these things and people 86 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:54.079 will still occasionally replace there now very elaborate infotainment centers, 87 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:56.360 which is a lot more difficult because in many cases, 88 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:58.199 you know, that's the brain center of the whole car. 89 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:01.040 But it is possible to get these third party head 90 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:05.240 units and some researchers took one from Pioneer and did 91 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.560 some testing on it, realized that it had some vulnerabilities 92 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:11.000 in it. Now, admittedly, you can't do this over the air, 93 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.399 so to speak. You would have to physically get your 94 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.720 hands on this thing. But you know, it could be 95 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:17.600 a rental car, could be you take your car in 96 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:21.079 for service, it could be disgruntled spouse or anyone that 97 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.439 could possibly get in your car can basically exploit the 98 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.279 vulnerabilities in there to essentially take over that head unit 99 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:31.360 and then capture any information that's connected to it everywhere 100 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.480 you're going. And this to me, Gary Jeff again, this 101 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.120 points out a bigger issue, not so much just this story, 102 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:41.319 but privacy not included Mozilla. Privacy not included. I encourage 103 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.600 all your listeners to go look that up today. They 104 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.560 did a huge expose on modern cars about a year 105 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.040 and a half ago. They looked at every major manufacturer 106 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.639 sold in the United States, and I think people would 107 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.879 be shocked. Now this is the built in infotainment center 108 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.600 in your modern car. I think most people would be 109 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.959 absolutely stunned and shocked if they under to what these 110 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.639 cars can collect now because they have cameras they have sensors, 111 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.399 they have microphones, they're collecting tons of information. You may 112 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.839 recall GM got ding because they started selling people's driving 113 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.839 habits the insurance companies without their consent. So this to 114 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.079 me just puts a finer point on a anything that 115 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.240 has software and it is potentially vulnerable. B. The Internet 116 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.360 of Things is most smoking privacy and security dumpster fire. 117 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.759 And see if you don't understand how these things work 118 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:32.879 and you don't know, for example, that pioneer head unit, 119 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.720 it can be patched, but apparently it's pretty difficult to do. 120 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.120 So you have to update the software in your Internet 121 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:41.600 of Things devices or trouble is coming your way, all right. 122 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.199 Also is let's stay on the road and in the 123 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.879 car for a minute, and the latest car technology that's 124 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:49.959 been introduced that is driving people nuts. 125 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:50.680 You're starting to. 126 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.560 Yeah, I mean, have you been in a newer car recently, 127 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.199 Gary yet? Is they're irritating a sack to operate? 128 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:57.800 Yeah? There. 129 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.800 You know, we've gone from mechanical knobs and buttons and 130 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:06.560 switches to you know, all these digital infertainment centers. You 131 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.120 have to drill down in some cases through several many 132 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.800 So my cars are twenty eighteen and my wife's cars 133 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.040 are twenty nineteen. They're not exactly new, right, but they're 134 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.120 new ish. They have all of these digital features. And 135 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.720 you know, I can tell you even though they're both 136 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:24.560 from the same manufacturer, the infotainment centers are quite different. 137 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.160 And how you change the climate in her car is 138 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:29.720 different than mine. And you know, it's frustrating to go 139 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.480 from one to another. You have to take your eyes 140 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.399 off the road. You know, we're worried about distracted driving, 141 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.279 and we keep adding all this digital technology. You know, 142 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.240 I got to click here, and then I got to 143 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:40.639 click there, and I got to do this thing to 144 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:43.279 like change the air conditioner. How about we just go 145 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.279 back to I just have a slighter control and I 146 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:47.759 just slide it from red to blue. 147 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.560 Well, you know, how about how about if if we 148 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:53.319 go back to having an actual key in the ignition. 149 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:55.759 Or on a door. 150 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.240 I wouldn't dispute that either. That's that's one of the 151 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:01.279 things they mentioned in the article about how this stuff 152 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:04.399 is driving people nuts. You know, it's hard to operate 153 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:06.639 in many cases. It takes your eyes off the road 154 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:08.680 because you can't just reach down and push a button. 155 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:11.480 They're turn it off you now have all of these 156 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:15.160 electronic features like new door handles. I mean they look cool, right, 157 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:17.879 they recess, they pop out when you get closed. Sense 158 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:21.360 it's the keybob. When those things break, they're incredibly expensive 159 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.480 to fix. Not to mention, you know, because of your 160 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.920 point about the key ignition and the key. You know, 161 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.079 these keyfobs can be captured and your car gets stolen 162 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.519 because Steves sit in the parking lot and they pick 163 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:34.840 up the radio signal from your key fob to your car, 164 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:36.759 and when you come back, your car is gone. That 165 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:38.240 was a big thing for a while. 166 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:39.279 You know. 167 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.480 Backup cameras love them. I think it's one of the 168 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:44.360 best innovations in cars in a long time. But all 169 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.120 the rest of the sensors and so forth are there. 170 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.799 When that stuff breaks, it is super expensive to fix, 171 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:53.159 very difficult and expensive to fix those entertainment centers. So yeah, 172 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.039 I mean, there is a cool factor, and you know, 173 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:59.639 there is a convenience factor to a lot of this stuff. 174 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:02.799 But the same time, I agree with the premise of 175 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:05.200 the article that it's just getting harder and harder to 176 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.639 operate the cars because we've moved away from simple intuitive 177 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.200 controls to these very elaborate. 178 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:14.320 Digital systems and more and more expensive to repair, and 179 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:19.600 eventually something is going to break down or malfunction. New 180 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:22.240 York Police Department sending drones to the side of nine 181 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:23.240 to one one calls. 182 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.679 Yeah, I thought this was an interesting story, and I 183 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.440 just don't really see any way we get around this, 184 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:33.679 because as drones get cheaper and more capable, I understand 185 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:36.600 why law enforcement would want to use these things. But 186 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.639 there's been kind of a hullabaloo with privacy experts in 187 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:44.399 New York. Apparently the NYPD now has some very capable drones. 188 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:46.480 They can fly up to forty five miles an hour, 189 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.519 and you know, the original theory was they would dispatch 190 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:54.080 these for like safety type things, but apparently, from what 191 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.919 I've read, you know, they're using these more and more 192 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.559 so nine to one one call comes in. Obviously, if 193 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:01.840 I can who drone at forty five miles an hour 194 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:03.759 and a straight line, I can get to a scene 195 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:07.679 much more quickly, right than a officer in a car, 196 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.919 unless they happen to be, you know, adjacent to the 197 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.840 scene or something. And you know, the point they're making 198 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.480 is as these things fly over, they have very very 199 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:21.080 powerful cameras they have microphones. You know, they can pick 200 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:21.519 you up. 201 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:22.279 As they're flying over. 202 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.600 They could hover high enough that you can't see or 203 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:29.039 hear them, but they're surveilling you with their surveillance technology. 204 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:32.279 And again, I don't know other than for people to 205 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.080 be aware of this and act accordingly and to you know, 206 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.159 make this a societal conversation. That's the thing about so 207 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:41.480 much of this scary depth. It's moving so fast. Unless 208 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.759 you're in the industry or follow it closely, you'd have 209 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:47.240 no reason to realize these things are happening. And you know, 210 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:50.120 at some point on all those technologies that he's out 211 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:51.840 of the bottle. And we need to we need to 212 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:55.279 be having a societal conversation about privacy and what does 213 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.080 all of this mean for the future and the at 214 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.960 least potential for a dystopian or well only in type 215 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:02.720 of state. You know, do you really want to be 216 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.399 in your backyard and have a drone, you know, flying 217 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.960 up there somewhere listening to your conversations with your neighbor. 218 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.720 I don't well reason why I don't like wing doorbells 219 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:12.399 and that sort of thing. 220 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:16.360 All I know is I saw RoboCop Dave, Yeah, I 221 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.559 did two and terminator. All Right, Dave Adder, thank you 222 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.159 so much. Have a fantastic weekend, my friend, my pleasure, 223 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.120 you too, you got it. Gifts from Wally on the 224 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.399 way afternoons and then Moe Egger on seven hundred WLW. 225 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.320 One of my favorite weekends of the year as a 226 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:40.440 sports fan, the Masters. Here's another well not not quite 227 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:43.799 professional golfer, not quite scratch golfer. Well, I mean he 228 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:47.360 he does play from time to time. Mo Egger to 229 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:48.639 talk about that and much more. 230 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.000 Hey Mo, how are we doing? 231 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.559 Doing fine? Doing fine? First thing I wanted to get 232 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:54.080 to was this. 233 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:00.159 This deal with now FC Cincinnati wants in on the 234 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.440 everybody else's money like the Bengals and the Browns do, 235 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:10.080 as far as the state subsidizing stadiums and areas around 236 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:12.360 stadiums and the like. And I just wanted to get 237 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.879 your taken what you thought about all of this. I 238 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:19.559 have my opinion is and has been. The legislature has 239 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:23.399 already approved the Browns request for bonds to build a 240 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.919 new stadium in suburban Cleveland. And you know, frankly, if 241 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:29.919 I had my choice and I was the Browns, I'd 242 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.679 like to be out of downtown Cleveland. 243 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:32.159 Myself. 244 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:37.960 But what I'm thinking about this is, don't the fans 245 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:42.440 already subsidize these teams by buying tickets and supporting them 246 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:46.360 and buying the merch and everything. Why should the taxpayers 247 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.879 i e. Fans of the teams in the states in 248 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.840 which they reside. Why should they have to pay again 249 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:55.559 to subsidize these teams. 250 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.039 It's a very fair and reasonable question, isn't it. You know, 251 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:08.279 because as we are told, there's a great economic benefit 252 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:11.679 that we all enjoyed, and I siddenly think there's some 253 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:14.320 validity to that. There's a great economic benefit that we 254 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.720 all enjoy by having these teams and shiny new palaces, 255 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:19.639 and there's an amount of prestige. 256 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:19.840 You know. 257 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:25.679 If you remember in nineteen ninety six when the vote 258 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:29.320 was done to build what eventually became Paul Brown Stadium 259 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.559 and Great American Ballpark, you know, the part of the 260 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:36.159 campaign was, well, we don't want to be like Louisville. Well, 261 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.639 we don't want to be like Columbus. We're a major 262 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:42.039 league city and if these teams move, oh, by golly, 263 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.320 we're going to be one of those like poor towns 264 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:47.360 that doesn't have major League sports. So there's that as well. 265 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:54.600 I personally find all discussion of stadiums and how they're 266 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.759 going to be paid for to be excruciatingly mind numbing. 267 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.159 What's different with that see Cincinnati, I guess it's they 268 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:04.559 just built the place, right, They just built the stadium. 269 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.080 They're not going anywhere. And so you know, oftentimes, when 270 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.279 you know, teams will will put a gun to the 271 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.600 public's head and say and look, the Bengals did this 272 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:15.320 in the mid nineties. As much as people don't want 273 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:16.759 to admit it, the Bengals did this in the mid 274 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:19.159 nineties and go, well, hey, you know what, if we 275 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:21.360 don't get what we're looking for, you know, we could move. 276 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.320 That's not exactly happening with f C Cincinnati, and frankly, 277 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.320 I don't think it's going to happen with the Cincinnati Bengals, 278 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:27.200 but here we are. 279 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.600 Yeah, it's just, uh, it's another one of those things 280 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:37.279 of well, let's uh, let's so, let's help the wealthy 281 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:42.320 by soaking everybody else. And because the Brown the Brown family, 282 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:46.399 and not to bank on them, because all these owners 283 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.360 do this at one form or another, I guess except 284 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:54.000 Jerry Jerry Jones paid for that place in Arlington but 285 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:57.279 uh for the most part. I mean, that's that's the 286 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:01.480 billion dollar wonderland. But the towns make money. The Browns 287 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:02.519 make money every year. 288 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:08.600 Oh it's impossible money owning an NFL, Right, I mean, 289 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.799 you know, I have almost no business acumen, but if 290 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:16.639 you handed me an NFL team, I would make I 291 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.879 would make uh a a an insane amount of money. 292 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.120 It is it is. And that's that's not to say 293 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:25.919 that the Brown family aren't great business people, because they are. 294 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.320 But you you, my my nearly eight year old daughter 295 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.120 could make money owning UH and an NFL team. But 296 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.519 I think there's something to kind of what your reference there. 297 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.720 And people get mad at me when I say this, like, 298 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.360 we keep putting more and more money as the public 299 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.360 into stadiums, and and look, man, I get it. Like 300 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.600 we we built Paul Brown Stadium, and we built Great 301 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:55.879 American Ballpark, and I think there have been ancillary benefits 302 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:58.200 to that that we've all all enjoyed, right, we all 303 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.720 enjoyed the banks, we all enjoy having two stadiums on 304 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:02.639 the riverfront. But the more and more money we put 305 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:06.600 in new stadiums, the more inaccessible they become for a 306 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.159 lot of people, Right, And I said this on my 307 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.279 show last year when I saw the renderings of what 308 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:14.399 you know, the next pay corpse stadium could look like, 309 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.600 I said, what I see as a stadium that fewer 310 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:19.440 people are going to be able to afford to go to. 311 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:21.840 That to me is the great irony in all this, 312 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.360 Like taxpayers keep paying more money for stadiums, and the 313 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:31.039 stadiums keep becoming more inaccessible for more and more people. 314 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:33.080 And I wish that wasn't the case. 315 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.080 Yeah, I mean, if it was for talking about a 316 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:43.240 publicly subsidized arena that the taxpayers are already paying for, 317 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:45.600 shouldn't everybody be able to go? 318 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:46.279 I get it. 319 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:50.000 And the TQL thing is just the FC Cincinnati thing 320 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:53.679 is just well, they're getting theirs. We want ours too, 321 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:58.279 because we're a professional sports franchise. It's just man, once 322 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:02.240 the hands are out and they start and greased, everybody 323 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:03.120 wants their handout. 324 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:04.039 I mean, I want well. 325 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:09.039 And and you don't think that the Cincinnati Reds and 326 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.519 the Cleveland or the Cleveland Guardians both in ballparks. You 327 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.039 know where the Guardians play opened in nineteen ninety four. 328 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.200 I don't know how much talk stories of a new 329 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.920 place in Cleveland. But you don't think the two major 330 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.680 league baseball teams in the state are going to be 331 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:28.440 far behind. Of course they are. So it's you know, 332 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.079 the cookie jar is opened. It was opened by the 333 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.200 Cleveland Browns, and now everybody's gonna want to put their 334 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:35.880 hand in it. And like, there's a part of me, 335 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.799 there's a part of me that understands it, right, Like, 336 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:39.200 wait a minute, you're going to give this kind of 337 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:41.440 coin to the Browns. Well, we're a professional sports team 338 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:44.400 as well. Here's what I want, Okay. I think the 339 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.599 rules should be this. You can't get a new stadium, 340 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:51.640 and you can't get publicly public money for a new 341 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:56.559 stadium until your team hosts a winning postseason game. 342 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:56.920 Yea. 343 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:01.039 So like it took the Bank Goos twenty years to 344 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:05.160 host a winning postseason game in their new stadium. Great 345 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.559 American Ballpark, for all of its time, has yet to 346 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:13.039 host a winning postseason game. That is not the case 347 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.799 with the Cleveland Guardians. I don't know if that's the 348 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.400 case with the Cleveland Browns. They've advanced in the postseason, 349 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:20.119 I don't know if they have won it home. That 350 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.640 should be the new rule that you can't get a 351 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:27.279 dime from taxpayers until the current place we built for 352 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.079 you hosts your team winning a postseason game. 353 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.960 Moeger on this day, Dave Keaton write this down April twelfth, 354 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:37.519 twenty twenty five, at eight forty eight. Moeger says, make 355 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:39.200 meritocracy great again. 356 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:40.079 I agree. 357 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:45.440 So let's talk about my favorite sports weekend of the year. 358 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.480 It's It's not the Final Four, although I did very 359 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.720 well thanks to a benevolent friend who puts some wagers 360 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:55.480 down for me. Based on Dick from Dayton's Picks last weekend, 361 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.680 Dick predicted in the Final Four that Florida would win, 362 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:06.000 that Houston would win, and that Florida win the national championship. 363 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:10.359 So based on Dick's Dick picks, he and I are 364 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:14.039 both two hundred dollars richer this week thanks to our 365 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.480 friend who made the bets for us. And so it 366 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.680 was a pretty good weekend. But I love the Masters 367 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.200 Sundays or a day not only the Lord's Day. Go 368 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:27.119 to church maybe and then and then settle home and 369 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:29.920 watch the final round of the Masters. You and I've 370 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.119 taught golf before because well only because I like to 371 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.359 talk golf on the radio for all the people who 372 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:41.039 think it's like watching paint dry. Uh, I enjoy it. 373 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:44.160 And so far it's been a pretty good tournament, and 374 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.640 some of the same names are there. And the thing 375 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:48.960 about golf that I think appeals to me the most, 376 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:51.599 mo and tell me if you agree, is the fact 377 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:55.200 that it's an individual sport and you're you're you're not 378 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:59.839 playing against a team. You're you're playing against the course 379 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:05.680 and basically, you know, against yourself many times. But I 380 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.519 know there's no I in team, but there are also 381 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:10.759 two u's and shut up. And that's what I tell 382 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.319 people who do mean golf. 383 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:20.920 We're on the same page. It's the competitor. It's the 384 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.200 golfer versus the course. Right, It's not so much the 385 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.240 golfer versus the other golfers. It's the golfer versus the course, 386 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:29.400 and oftentimes the golfer versus himself. You know, That's what 387 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:31.680 you hear these guys say so much like sometimes my 388 00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:35.799 biggest enemy is is my head? Yeah? 389 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:36.200 Is? 390 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:40.240 And so I think what's been cool about the tournament 391 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.680 this year is we've gotten good weather. It's just I 392 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:45.960 was saying this to somebody yesterday that it feels like 393 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:49.680 over the last five or six years that there have 394 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.319 been so many rain interrupted Masters, and maybe I'm overstating that, 395 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.599 but it just feels like there have been so many Majors, 396 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:01.359 but specifically the Masters where you know they can't have 397 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:03.960 a normal tournament because of whether the weather has looked 398 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:07.480 stunning down there at Augusta. And I think the way 399 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:09.400 the things have played out over the first thirty six 400 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:12.759 holes sets us up for a really fun next two days. 401 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.880