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Speaker 1: What's up, fellas, how's everyone doing.
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 1: We go, Yeah, thanks, appreciate that. So, yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of new faces in the chat tonight, a lot of
Speaker 1: familiar faces as well. So we're gonna go through and
Speaker 1: welcome everybody. But Dave up there at the top. Dave,
Speaker 1: wave your hands so they know who you are up there, top,
Speaker 1: top left corner. He emails me the other day and
Speaker 1: he's like, Hey, he's gonna be with Seed Studios at
Speaker 1: a booth in him bench and he saw the notification
Speaker 1: about the live stream. He's like, I want to come
Speaker 1: on and talk about our booth. And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's probably a good idea. Let's do that. And then
Speaker 1: uh and then Rob and Jonathan It is it Jonathan. No,
Speaker 1: there's too many people in my chat, guys. Yeah, other Jonathan.
Speaker 1: There's more than one Jonathan. That'sating. There's more than one
Speaker 1: Jonathan in the chat. Rob and Jonathan were in my
Speaker 1: premiere live stream the other day. I'm like, why don't
Speaker 1: you guys come on too, and then and now we've
Speaker 1: got the Meshtastic guys joining us as well, So so
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna let everyone talk. But uh, I
Speaker 1: do want to give Dave the floor first, because this
Speaker 1: was kind of his idea. Dave, I stole the idea
Speaker 1: from you, and hope, hope everyone else enjoys it as
Speaker 1: much as I know. I'm gonna so welcome, buddy. How
Speaker 1: are you you're in You're in Maine right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in Portland, Maine and an a loft hotel. Okay,
Speaker 3: doing a project up here. I'll be flying from here
Speaker 3: straight to Dayton on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: But yes, so I'm the official, unofficial kind of Ham
Speaker 3: radio spokesperson for Seed Studios. Okay, we kind of partnered up.
Speaker 3: We were doing a bunch of income stuff with the
Speaker 3: T one thousand, and we kind of partnered up, and
Speaker 3: now I'm helping them kind of spread the word. So hey, David, Hey.
Speaker 4: Does that make you an amateur spokesperson?
Speaker 3: I think I'm an amateur spokesperson.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: Look look what I just found in my pocket.
Speaker 4: It is right here.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're gonna be at booth five thousand and
Speaker 3: seven in the hurd. We're gonna have the T one thousand.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing fifty of these. Okay, fifty of these, which
Speaker 3: is the better I think you better be bringing more
Speaker 3: like five hundred.
Speaker 1: But that's just like you trying to get it is
Speaker 1: the hard part, some kind of there butt, right, I imagine, Yeah, yeah, Okay, have.
Speaker 3: A solar node that we're coming out with on display.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 3: Then there's a new device called the l One, which
Speaker 3: I haven't even seen yet, that we're going to have
Speaker 3: on display. I hope it'll be me and Betty from
Speaker 3: Seed Studios just kind of there to ask questions, show
Speaker 3: off the devices, and if you want to pick one up.
Speaker 3: These are going to be forty eight dollars. These are
Speaker 3: going to be seventy three.
Speaker 1: Seventy three. Everyone should buy one of those just because
Speaker 1: of the number, so exactly.
Speaker 3: And then we may have some of the little show esp.
Speaker 3: Thirty two kits. Still not sure if they're going to
Speaker 3: make it to the.
Speaker 1: Show, okay, And that'll be Seed Studios booth number again
Speaker 1: five zero zero seven, five zero zero seven. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: be stopping by to talk to you guys for sure.
Speaker 1: Home So good deal man, I'm glad you guys are
Speaker 1: going to be there. Betty, she was the one at
Speaker 1: me at mesh Con down in Texas a few months ago. Right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all right. Yeah, can can you get him to
Speaker 1: explain the device? Okay? So these are mesh Tasks devices
Speaker 1: and I just happened to by some by some Miracle
Speaker 1: have the Meshtastic developers on the stream tonight. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we're gonna we'll talk about Mestastic. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the ham mentioned firmware that Mike just
Speaker 1: mentioned in the chat. So yeah, we will. But Dave,
Speaker 1: if you want to give a very brief, high level
Speaker 1: overview of what those devices are, feel free.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So this is the tracker. It's an all in one card,
Speaker 3: waterproof device, antenna. Everything's all in one spot. You can
Speaker 3: hang it off of a lanyard hanging around your neck,
Speaker 3: put it in your pocket, really small compact device. This
Speaker 3: is the indicator, which I'm trying to get it to
Speaker 3: turn back and I've got it on a power brick
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Yah. Yeah, welcome to live streaming.
Speaker 3: But it is a it's kind of like the t
Speaker 3: deck it's got Okay, you can put the and I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get good light. But you can put the
Speaker 3: fancy UI on it when it's completely independent. It's meant
Speaker 3: to be kind of a desktop node. It's USB powered
Speaker 3: only and there it's no battery, no anything else. This
Speaker 3: actually has a case on it that Ali Cat Designs
Speaker 3: makes to kind of make it sit on the desk
Speaker 3: even better. But yeah, so this is kind of your
Speaker 3: home node. This is your travel node. We'll have the
Speaker 3: solar node on display, which should be on pre order
Speaker 3: right now for about eighty six bucks I think. And
Speaker 3: it's yeah, big, all in one, no external parts or pieces.
Speaker 3: Antenna connects directly to it. It's pretty neat.
Speaker 7: Pardon a question about the solar node.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 7: So how many watch does have put out?
Speaker 3: It's a good question.
Speaker 8: Don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't have that deep aspects on it yet because they.
Speaker 9: Haven't less than one, less than one one?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what it's at.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Uh? That Yeah, that's what's what's the one
Speaker 1: when the white case called would you call.
Speaker 3: It the indicator?
Speaker 1: Indicator? I might pick one of the that might go
Speaker 1: well in my truck because I need something to connect
Speaker 1: to my external magmat and ten on the truck.
Speaker 3: That's what I have mine. I have one in the
Speaker 3: house of the truck.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that's what I'll pick up. We'll see, so yeah,
Speaker 1: cool man.
Speaker 11: Well that's I think that's a great device for the vehicle, right,
Speaker 11: that's touchscreen, and.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's bigger.
Speaker 3: You can put the the older or the regular fra
Speaker 3: more on it, and it's got a huge display. Obviously,
Speaker 3: if you just want to use it as a truck node,
Speaker 3: it's a little difficult when you start trying to chat
Speaker 3: or do anything on it with the little abd uh
Speaker 3: keyboard that pops up.
Speaker 1: Can you connect to it via blue tooth like a
Speaker 1: regular node?
Speaker 3: You can if it's got the original firmware, you cannot.
Speaker 3: If it's got the fancy u I right now.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, the m u I takes up that one
Speaker 9: API slot and so they you can connect to it,
Speaker 9: but they'll fight with each other. I think there's actually
Speaker 9: a way, like you long press something in the firm
Speaker 9: where and it'll turn off the m U I and
Speaker 9: then you can bluetooth.
Speaker 10: To it if you press the bluetooth button.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think if if you go to like the
Speaker 13: bottom right, the bottom left, corner, and then there's a
Speaker 13: tab called settings. I think that over there there is
Speaker 13: a I think that's how you get to the Bluetooth
Speaker 13: settings or connect to it through Bluetooth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's in the settings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cool good, cool man. Okay, well, thanks for
Speaker 1: thanks for being on Dave. Feel free to hang out.
Speaker 1: You can stay as long as you want, all right,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get some other folks in here. So
Speaker 1: I saw Frank join, and I know he wants to
Speaker 1: say something. So Frank asked to have an ask to
Speaker 1: unmute button on top of Frank's zoom window.
Speaker 14: It is unus.
Speaker 1: That is an oxyboron waiting to happen. It's a tragedy
Speaker 1: waiting to ask to unmute Frank. Okay, what's up, buddy,
Speaker 1: how are you doing?
Speaker 8: Doing good?
Speaker 14: Man, doing good? I just opened up some at Keith
Speaker 14: the single Molt Japanese whiskey from Paul there, from Paul,
Speaker 14: Thank you very much, Paul. I appreciate it and I'm
Speaker 14: enjoying that this evening. I just got off of a
Speaker 14: youth on the ear and live stream with Neil and
Speaker 14: I want to bring this up because they said they're
Speaker 14: just falling short of what they need to make the
Speaker 14: Denver goal, and they need some more help and support.
Speaker 14: So I'm dropping the donate link in the Okay, if
Speaker 14: y'all are able to go over there and donate to them.
Speaker 14: It's a great program where they only for one hundred dollars.
Speaker 14: One hundred dollars, they spawn, they bring these kids over
Speaker 14: and they have a great program. There's a bunch of
Speaker 14: STEM activities, a bunch of radio activities and some not
Speaker 14: radio activities, just having fun with kids. It's all paid
Speaker 14: for it, but bye by the organization. They just need
Speaker 14: your help to push them over the edge. And if
Speaker 14: you can go ahead donate. I'm just getting the word
Speaker 14: out more for Neil and I think this is an
Speaker 14: awesome event.
Speaker 1: So good. Yeah, no, thanks for sharing that.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 14: Other than that, I activated a park and activated Dinosaur
Speaker 14: State Park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it was fun.
Speaker 14: What else?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 14: I got Voice of American Museum, the Radio Club.
Speaker 1: They were on the air.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and they stumble across my little transmission.
Speaker 2: But it was fun.
Speaker 1: I was I was Ivan in the truck yesterday I
Speaker 1: think yesterday, maybe a couple of days ago, and I
Speaker 1: was hunting Poda, so I was just turning the dial
Speaker 1: on the on the t S for eighty while I
Speaker 1: was hunting, and I heard some people calling back to
Speaker 1: a station. I couldn't hear the station itself, the hunt,
Speaker 1: the activator themselves, but I heard W one a w
Speaker 1: call back to the activator. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: so those guys are out there, so that was kind
Speaker 1: of fun to hear. But uh, okay, cool man, thanks
Speaker 1: for being on the show tonight. And uh yeah, Frank,
Speaker 1: Frank's in the chat watching for questions like he normally does,
Speaker 1: so he out have fun. Yeah, we got a few
Speaker 1: special guests on tonight.
Speaker 14: So I saw, I saw, and I believe I talked
Speaker 14: to Jonathan before. But I am so jealous of his office.
Speaker 14: I want that office. I want that chair, I want
Speaker 14: that wooden background, or I just want.
Speaker 1: Everything that's cool.
Speaker 14: You're missing a cigar.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and like some kind of Republican
Speaker 1: Party uh emblem behind you, but yeah no, that's that's
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm not kidding, but you know, for those
Speaker 1: of you who take offense, I'm kidding. So cool. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's move on. I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: going here, So I'm gonna let Rob talk next, because
Speaker 1: Rob is Rob and Jonathan, and I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: guys guess which Jonathan, and then we'll see if you're
Speaker 1: ride or not here in a minute. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let Rob talk. Rob is the creator of the spool Tenna.
Speaker 1: I did a video about the spool tenna when I
Speaker 1: was in Galveston a couple of months ago. You guys
Speaker 1: hopefully have seen that on the channel. Rob You're gonna
Speaker 1: have a booth at four Days in May. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna be in at him mentioned as well? Or is
Speaker 1: it just the four Days in May thing?
Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll be in both.
Speaker 1: Okay, both good?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, tell people about your product band from
Speaker 1: the Horse's Mouth, go ahead.
Speaker 16: Okay, Well, first off, thanks for having me on kind
Speaker 16: of a newer to the scene. We uh designed spool tenna.
Speaker 10: It's a in fed half wave. The uniqueness of this
Speaker 10: is that it's a it's on a.
Speaker 16: Spool form factor, so you know, you can unspool it
Speaker 16: very quickly, put a pan or a pencil or a
Speaker 16: screwdriver and split out very quickly. Being on a larger radius,
Speaker 16: it doesn't put a tight kink on any of the wire,
Speaker 16: any of those wires that have a memory, and then
Speaker 16: it really eliminates that tangle and that probability for tangle.
Speaker 16: So we we are building.
Speaker 8: Designed this here.
Speaker 16: I designed it and we're building it turning into a
Speaker 16: family business. Nice in Carrie, North Carolina, just outside of Raleigh,
Speaker 16: and looking to show these at Dayton. Will be at
Speaker 16: four days in May at the vendor night, I believe
Speaker 16: that's Thursday night, and then we'll be at outdoor flea
Speaker 16: Market section seven seven and right about the middle of
Speaker 16: the infield.
Speaker 14: Are those kids or are you buy all complete?
Speaker 5: I'm sorry? What was that?
Speaker 14: Are those kit builds that we could pick up before
Speaker 14: day in May? Or they are a it's going to
Speaker 14: be a pre built okay.
Speaker 10: Be pre built?
Speaker 16: Yeah, but good okay, quick quick little deployment and easy up,
Speaker 16: easy down.
Speaker 10: It's got the built in inside.
Speaker 16: It's got a forty nine to one on the inside,
Speaker 16: so resident on forty fifteen ten all protected and throw
Speaker 16: it in your bag and your kit and quick quick
Speaker 16: for PODA.
Speaker 1: What you didn't see in the video is my video
Speaker 1: is that I deployed that and I think I was
Speaker 1: on twenty meters, although I might have been on fifteen
Speaker 1: I can't remember, and I had the Icy seven O
Speaker 1: five running FT eight, so I wanted to see if
Speaker 1: the device got hot or not. So I went down
Speaker 1: there and I just guess I happened to touch it
Speaker 1: at the time it was transmitting it was hot that No,
Speaker 1: it was not hot, it was electric. It gave me
Speaker 1: a good zappa. There's like, okay, it is alive. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the price, you know, yeah, yeah right, nine vote battery.
Speaker 4: I don't know if Rob saw this, but Mike was
Speaker 4: sitting here staring at the screen kind of look like
Speaker 4: looking like he was gonna how he could, uh, how
Speaker 4: he could mod that already with his uh, with his
Speaker 4: with his LinkedIn fed Uh of course, let me.
Speaker 1: Let me mentioned this.
Speaker 16: We we decided to open source the design.
Speaker 1: So you can go to GitHub.
Speaker 16: Okay, look up spooltena or my call sign ko for
Speaker 16: h u I and download the kai kat files downloaded. Uh,
Speaker 16: you know, pull the trademark spull tenant name off and
Speaker 16: and and have at it with the you know, make
Speaker 16: it your experimenter's platform for you know in fed halfways.
Speaker 16: So we thought it was important to get back to
Speaker 16: the community and be the basis for experimentation.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 5: You can you can buy these.
Speaker 3: On spool tenna dot com.
Speaker 16: You can follow us on spool tend on Instagram, and
Speaker 16: we'll have him at the show and four.
Speaker 1: Days may cool. I sure.
Speaker 16: The website price is one forty nine?
Speaker 15: What and how many at the show.
Speaker 16: We'll do one thirty nine at the show.
Speaker 1: How much power is what they're asking?
Speaker 10: Oh? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Hundred watts hunter watts?
Speaker 14: Yeah, wow, and the.
Speaker 1: Fifty digital fifty on digital, but one hundred on Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's actually kind of typical of an infant halfway
Speaker 1: most of them. So okay, it worked well, I was,
Speaker 1: I was. I've used it on ten and fifteen and
Speaker 1: twenty and it's uh. I had good experience with mine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks for being here, Rob, appreciate it, man,
Speaker 1: look looking forward to meeting you face to face in
Speaker 1: a few days here. So yeah, feel free to hang out,
Speaker 1: uh and uh, you know, just leave whenever you need to,
Speaker 1: but feel free to hang out with this if you
Speaker 1: want to. So sounds good. Cool, all right? So Jonathan
Speaker 1: from ham Gadgets, he was the other one in the
Speaker 1: chat with me on the premiere, So these are Robin
Speaker 1: Robin Jonathan we're in the chat and they were talking
Speaker 1: about and Rob was in there a school Tenna, and
Speaker 1: then Jonathan was in there and I'm like, dude, I
Speaker 1: should know your call signed because he said I'll be
Speaker 1: at four days and May. We'll have a booth and
Speaker 1: I'm like, who are you because I should know your
Speaker 1: calls Ham Gadgets. Okay, cool, So Jonathan, thanks for joining
Speaker 1: us tonight, buddy. How are you doing it?
Speaker 2: Doing quite well?
Speaker 13: Thanks for having me on here.
Speaker 1: Yep, So go ahead and tell us about what you're
Speaker 1: what you're bringing to four days in May.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 13: So I'll be at both four days in May and
Speaker 13: at Dayton Hamvention four days and May the vendor Knight
Speaker 13: of course, as well as booth five thousand and three.
Speaker 13: It's gonna be both me and Radio Dan, who's the
Speaker 13: owner of Ham Gadgets, and I'm just I'm a manufacturer
Speaker 13: and he handles all the distribution for me. I sell
Speaker 13: different kits that are useful for the PoTA Soda operators,
Speaker 13: specifically like the c W operators. I also make a
Speaker 13: radio called the CFT one, which my camera is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, CFT one.
Speaker 13: It's a five band c W field transceiver with a
Speaker 13: really simple user interface and a very low noise receiver
Speaker 13: and I could go all day talking different points about it,
Speaker 13: which I won't. I also sell and fed halfwave kits.
Speaker 13: That was the first thing I sold in Kadi m
Speaker 13: R D and Mike knows knows very well about it.
Speaker 13: My camera is blocking it, but it's very similar to
Speaker 13: the K six r K ones that's ultra portable but
Speaker 13: a little bit easier to assemble. I also do Morse
Speaker 13: code paddles. These are actually three D printable. If you
Speaker 13: go on Printables you can print them yourself if you want,
Speaker 13: but I also sell them as a kit. I've also
Speaker 13: got paddle kits for the k X two and KH one,
Speaker 13: and I also sell leg straps for them.
Speaker 18: Uh so that's what I've got.
Speaker 13: But I also was asked to advertise for Adam kase
Speaker 13: Z a R K R A N six A R
Speaker 13: A Joshua from toofton Antenna and five F Y, as
Speaker 13: well as Aaron from Modern Morris. They'll be right next
Speaker 13: to me at Booth five thousand and four, but Aaron
Speaker 13: will be let me see. He told me. It will
Speaker 13: be at boot one two zero six twelve O six.
Speaker 13: The map shows commotion which is his dad's electrical engineering company.
Speaker 13: He'll have some new color paddles, h but it'll be
Speaker 13: unlimited stock, first come, first serve that. So there's the
Speaker 13: message from Aaron and so I do hope you guys
Speaker 13: come and check us out.
Speaker 19: Awesome, that's a CFT one. Jonathan is a beast. That's
Speaker 19: the cw on. That thing is so smooth and the
Speaker 19: unit user interface is amazing. I mean you can literally
Speaker 19: sit down and just go to town on that.
Speaker 15: That radio.
Speaker 19: You just reminded me, Jonathan, I still have to get
Speaker 19: my review of your radio out. It's it's it's on
Speaker 19: my computer. I just remember that I have never put
Speaker 19: that out. So I've got some video editing to do
Speaker 19: in my future.
Speaker 1: Well, if Kyle says that it's a good cw rig,
Speaker 1: then you know it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 15: I actually got.
Speaker 13: Used his I actually used his video to help troubleshoot
Speaker 13: the iambic A versus IAMBIC B because the explanation they
Speaker 13: give for that can be kind of confusing, and his
Speaker 13: explanation was very intuitive.
Speaker 1: So I use that to figure.
Speaker 13: Out that with Evan K two e j A t
Speaker 13: helped me get that, and that's the reason why it's
Speaker 13: so it's so robust.
Speaker 15: Yeah, that was Adam who gave that presentation.
Speaker 19: But yeah, my CW Operators roundtable, we uh decoded IAMIC
Speaker 19: A versus IAMIC B and there are some differences. You
Speaker 19: gotta watch the video to figure it out, but there
Speaker 19: are differences.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just still trying to figure out the
Speaker 1: difference between K and R right now.
Speaker 19: So that is probably your first good that's a first
Speaker 19: good step.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ving that my my my call son is
Speaker 1: not l C five hw B. But Kyle and I
Speaker 1: came up when a idea for a T shirt and
Speaker 1: it's gonna say you are h n N and it's
Speaker 1: just you are h n N and that's it's just
Speaker 1: gonna say that on the front and then and everyone
Speaker 1: has ever screwed up CW before. I should get that.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, if some of you were like, what
Speaker 1: does that mean, I don't know.
Speaker 19: Go take a look at take h right right right exactly.
Speaker 1: So cool man. Thanks for being on here, Jonathan. I
Speaker 1: look forward to meeting you. I'm pretty sure I met
Speaker 1: you last year.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think we shook hands and yeah, and spoke briefly,
Speaker 13: probably at the at the pub boot Pub.
Speaker 1: Could be, but I was at Four Days in May. Also,
Speaker 1: were you there last year?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, it was my first year there.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm sure that I met you there.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, we're we were at the troll Pub
Speaker 1: last year and we're gonna be at the troll Pub
Speaker 1: again this year. So stay tuned. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that upcoming. But uh yeah, thanks for being here, man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys coming on and presenting tonight.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bet all right. So we're just gonna roll
Speaker 1: in now to Meshtastic and I know that uh let's
Speaker 1: see how many people do we have one from? I
Speaker 1: know Garth and Jonathan and Austin.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think he's just the three of us, just
Speaker 15: the three.
Speaker 1: Of you, okay. And uh and I know that Rob
Speaker 1: down there, uh w fi I t R Rob. He's
Speaker 1: done some videos about the new Hamvention firmware. So if
Speaker 1: you guys would give us a let us know what. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I believe the u r L is
Speaker 1: Hamvention dot meshtastic dot org. Is that correct?
Speaker 12: That's correct?
Speaker 1: Okay, Frank, if you want to type that up and
Speaker 1: put that in the chat. I did share that in
Speaker 1: my email blast today. So again hopefully you guys are
Speaker 1: part of my email list. But yeah, so tell us
Speaker 1: what to what what?
Speaker 9: I think it's probably I think it's probably more fun
Speaker 9: to talk about ham mention last year.
Speaker 1: And yes, I was gonna I was about to start there.
Speaker 1: I was about to start with that. Yes, yeah, so
Speaker 1: let's do that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, ham Bitchion twenty twenty four was where we realized
Speaker 9: we had a problem. We had a big problem. Meantastic
Speaker 9: hadn't been big enough for it to be a problem
Speaker 9: until then. That was the first time that enough people
Speaker 9: got together in the same place. And then what made
Speaker 9: that worse is that somebody went and flipped the MQTT
Speaker 9: stuff on and so not only was there the local
Speaker 9: traffic they were taking. We run an MQTT server where
Speaker 9: people can bounce off of that from anywhere around the world.
Speaker 9: Somebody was taking all of that traffic, sucking it into
Speaker 9: their node and then rebroadcasting it locally, and you know,
Speaker 9: everybody's radios virtually melted down as a result.
Speaker 1: It was It was chaos, Yes, it was.
Speaker 9: And so that's when we first really started looking at
Speaker 9: it and going, Okay, we have enough people in the
Speaker 9: same building now at some of these events. Ham Vinchion
Speaker 9: is one of the big ones. Defcon is another one.
Speaker 9: Since then we had a bunch of nodes of deaf coon,
Speaker 9: so we started asking ourselves what can we do to
Speaker 9: fix this? And what came out of this was as
Speaker 9: the convention firmware, and so we put everybody on a
Speaker 9: faster speed of you know, more bandwidth, less airtime, different channel,
Speaker 9: so that we're not competing with the defaults. And then
Speaker 9: we go and we do some things like let's send
Speaker 9: less telemontry, let's send telemetry less often. Let's basically all
Speaker 9: the things that the firmware does by default that makes
Speaker 9: sense when there's up to one hundred people. A lot
Speaker 9: of that doesn't make sense when you've got a thousand
Speaker 9: people together or more than that, and so there's a
Speaker 9: lot of those things that are in there that are
Speaker 9: cut down. One of the other big things that we
Speaker 9: did is, since him mentioned last year, is on the
Speaker 9: m QTT server, we actually zero hop all of that traffic,
Speaker 9: which means that even if you go in and do
Speaker 9: the same thing that the guy did last year, say
Speaker 9: I'm going to download all of this, your local node's
Speaker 9: not going to rebroadcast it, so you only melt your
Speaker 9: local node and.
Speaker 1: Not anybody else.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna let Garth and Austin get in on this too,
Speaker 9: because they spent they've done a lot of the legwork
Speaker 9: on thinking this through and making the making the builds work,
Speaker 9: particularly as what Austin's been had his hand in.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. I'm Austin. I
Speaker 10: do all of the Linux packaging and I've been having
Speaker 10: a lot of fun getting into the build process also.
Speaker 9: Were you you automated the uh the building of the
Speaker 9: special convention firmware too, right, It's not just the Linux stuff.
Speaker 10: Right right, I've been getting more into that stuff. Lots
Speaker 10: of fun.
Speaker 1: Now is this is this? Is this specific firmware?
Speaker 2: Is it? Well?
Speaker 1: I've got two questions about it. Yeah, you guys had
Speaker 1: some hand in the settings. We didn't have specific firmware,
Speaker 1: but we had a specific settings we used at ham
Speaker 1: Cation in Orlando last February, and we went through and
Speaker 1: just kind of changed like three or four settings in
Speaker 1: just kind of the default firm where and it worked
Speaker 1: beautifully that time. So I guess that this is is
Speaker 1: changing the number of hops and changing it from long
Speaker 1: fast to short fast and changing like one other thing
Speaker 1: and turning off m QTT if it's on, obviously, but
Speaker 1: there was one other change in there as well. Is
Speaker 1: that kind of what the convention firmware is doing for
Speaker 1: you automatically, right.
Speaker 10: So it doing all of those things. We also added
Speaker 10: some fancy branding. I can actually show this off we
Speaker 10: just added and then oh.
Speaker 9: Live demo, live demo, right fingers.
Speaker 1: There you go. If it comes up, Oh, it's really.
Speaker 9: Bright coming, it's coming, so you can see.
Speaker 1: It's a ham. It's a ham emoji, it's a ham.
Speaker 1: It's a ham. Yeah, there is there. That's great, that's good.
Speaker 10: Great flash again. We're having a lot of fun with this.
Speaker 10: And this is actually the first time we're using the
Speaker 10: short turbo mode. It's five hundred killer hurts wide instead
Speaker 10: of two hundred and fifty. You can it's yourself dictionaries
Speaker 10: on this thing, and it's almost instantaneous. We're greatly excited
Speaker 10: to see how that's going to play out.
Speaker 4: So is the turbo mode. Is the turbo mode new
Speaker 4: or is that something that's been around for a while.
Speaker 10: It's been in there for quite some time, We've just
Speaker 10: never used it at this scale.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, it is the newest of the presets. I
Speaker 9: maybe it's been in there about a year or something
Speaker 9: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, kind of Well.
Speaker 20: I will somewhere deal with distance. In other words, so
Speaker 20: what kind of coverage do you expect get.
Speaker 12: Don't mention said, Yeah, it's gonna be less.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be less distance from each individual. But you've
Speaker 9: got so many people in the same place, and the
Speaker 9: fact that it's meshing, they're going to rebroadcast each other.
Speaker 9: We you know, like like we said we did. We
Speaker 9: did def Coon and they were in Vegas and distance
Speaker 9: was not a problem. We ran with the short fast there.
Speaker 9: I don't think we went to short turbo. But there's
Speaker 9: just so many nodes. The the problem you run into
Speaker 9: is not distance. The problem you run into is airtime contention.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 15: So I flashed my.
Speaker 1: Well, Carlos, you got a Carlos is probably jumping out
Speaker 1: of an airplane right now. That's why his internet quick.
Speaker 1: He took his chair with him this time, which I
Speaker 1: thought was strange, But uh, Kyle, you had something, go ahead, Kyle.
Speaker 19: Yeah, So I flashed my node with the hamdvention firmware,
Speaker 19: and so obviously I'm going to use it during ham Vention.
Speaker 19: Whenever I come home from ham Vention, do I need
Speaker 19: to reflash it or or flash it with another version
Speaker 19: that you guys are going to put out, or can
Speaker 19: I use the hanmdventioned version whenever. I'm just you know,
Speaker 19: tooling around Saint Louis here.
Speaker 10: So, I mean, we changed a lot of things in
Speaker 10: the event. Firmware is one thing. I forgot to mention.
Speaker 10: We've baked in three channels this year, all with different
Speaker 10: encryption keys that are not you know, compatible with the
Speaker 10: main mesh. And that's kind of on purpose. So you
Speaker 10: went and took this home, then you'd be a party
Speaker 10: of one unless you went and changed all the settings back.
Speaker 19: Anyways, Well, sometimes that's the best thing for me, So
Speaker 19: that's that was.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My question was about the existing channels you have,
Speaker 1: because we've got some We've got some custom channels for
Speaker 1: the North Texas area here where I am. If I
Speaker 1: flash this ham benched firmer, is it going to nuke
Speaker 1: everything I have in my in my custom settings that
Speaker 1: I've already set up, it will? Okay, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: why you should have more than one or perhaps maybe
Speaker 1: more than ten meshtastic notes, so you can set one
Speaker 1: up for all these different events and whatnot.
Speaker 4: So all right, so Jonathan and Austin, I was going
Speaker 4: to ask about that because I was doing my notes
Speaker 4: today and I'm an IT guy, so I can I
Speaker 4: can get in and do the command line and pull
Speaker 4: my keys out and stuff like that and back it up.
Speaker 4: Are you guys going to have a routine that that's
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit more user friendly for for something
Speaker 4: that would be a little bit more adoptable for let's
Speaker 4: say Mike for example, since he blatantly says he doesn't
Speaker 4: know anything about computers, that's true.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's not in there yet. That is something that
Speaker 9: we've we've talked many times about. It's like trying to
Speaker 9: figure out, how do you how to particularly those keys right,
Speaker 9: the PKAI keys, how do you back those up? How
Speaker 9: do you make it easy for the normal user to
Speaker 9: back it up? I think Garth probably can talk about this.
Speaker 9: Garth does a lot of our kind of user experience
Speaker 9: stuff that he thinks through. Do we have a solution
Speaker 9: rolled out anywhere yet?
Speaker 21: So for the channel settings, you can use a QR
Speaker 21: code right to go back and forth between the different
Speaker 21: settings and keep the channels in place. You can go
Speaker 21: to hand bention and not use the event specific firmware
Speaker 21: and flash the device with the QR code.
Speaker 8: It won't add every one of the settings.
Speaker 21: In that case, but the QR codes are meant to
Speaker 21: be the sort of easy for general people to use
Speaker 21: to move around, and one of the things that just
Speaker 21: Fantastic in general wants to get better at is moving
Speaker 21: around between the presets. So we have twelve different presets
Speaker 21: whatever the number is, I don't know if that's totally right,
Speaker 21: the reasonable amount of presets and most of the traffic
Speaker 21: because people kind of want to be able to communicate
Speaker 21: with the big.
Speaker 8: Public networking areas where they're at.
Speaker 21: On the default channel, we have like ninety nine percent
Speaker 21: of the people on long fast on slot twenty in
Speaker 21: the US. That comes out to nine of zero six
Speaker 21: or whatever it is as far as the frequency and
Speaker 21: so moving around to presets that work better for the
Speaker 21: terrain for the you know, a metal building in Ohio
Speaker 21: with hundreds of people packed into it is a use
Speaker 21: case where the distance really doesn't matter. Laura stands for
Speaker 21: long range, but it's kind of irrelevant, right. You can
Speaker 21: use the walkie talking in there, and so we're using
Speaker 21: a much faster preset to be able to just handle
Speaker 21: all the activity all at once, and so getting better
Speaker 21: as a community and with all the different community groups
Speaker 21: that moving around.
Speaker 8: For different use cases. It is one of the things
Speaker 8: that we really want to work on over probably the.
Speaker 21: Next year or so, rather than just creating a brand
Speaker 21: new version of bench Tastic that kind of turns off
Speaker 21: all of the old but rather using all the stuff
Speaker 21: that we do have and moving people to different places
Speaker 21: for different use cases. Right, So, if you're out and
Speaker 21: you're hiking and the distance is super important, long fast
Speaker 21: works great for that. If you want to be able
Speaker 21: to communicate with other nearby nodes, it's great for that.
Speaker 21: If you're really worried about, you know, having a small
Speaker 21: encrypted group and you want faster communications and things, there's
Speaker 21: presets available for those things as well. The long Moderate
Speaker 21: preset is really good if you want a little extra distance.
Speaker 21: It goes really slow in many cases, so you kind
Speaker 21: of watch the text messages go out and come back.
Speaker 21: So one of the things, just as a project that
Speaker 21: we want to get better at is getting people to
Speaker 21: use the different presets and.
Speaker 9: Except for very long slow, don't use that one's gone.
Speaker 2: We did finally kill it.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, very long slow, that's uh. It's it's probably
Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixty meters band. It just takes
Speaker 1: too much effort, right, Well.
Speaker 9: No, most people's hardware couldn't support it. Actually, you had
Speaker 9: to have a really really tight temperature control oscillator to
Speaker 9: even be able to sit and receive on it, and
Speaker 9: so many devices didn't have the tolerances tight enough to
Speaker 9: do it. And so you know, people will go, oh,
Speaker 9: mine goes to eleven, let's go to the longest, and
Speaker 9: of course that's what we all do. I want to
Speaker 9: see how far I can get this thing to go,
Speaker 9: and the performance would just be terrible on about half
Speaker 9: the devices out there.
Speaker 20: So now that I have a better cell phone signal,
Speaker 20: my question, perhaps maybe I didn't hear the answer, how
Speaker 20: does the AVENE.
Speaker 7: Firmware and deal with businesses?
Speaker 20: So perhaps miles twenty miles away from the event, persuming
Speaker 20: the antenna's in a very tall location, I.
Speaker 9: Would anticipate that that would work if you've actually got
Speaker 9: line of sight right.
Speaker 12: Too.
Speaker 9: If yeah, that that's that is kind of a long
Speaker 9: shot for the short turbo but again, line of sight,
Speaker 9: Laura is just amazing. Yeah, honestly, you can do you
Speaker 9: can do a repeater. You can do a repeater over
Speaker 9: the internet. You know there there are ways to make
Speaker 9: that work. But if you've got it up high enough
Speaker 9: and then you can actually see it, I bet we'll
Speaker 9: go through.
Speaker 20: Well, and is to hopefully link some people up from
Speaker 20: the Cincinnati area for a few minutes at a time
Speaker 20: into day, just to see how well the message behaves.
Speaker 1: You're gonna jump with one, Carlos.
Speaker 20: I've been jumping with love for you know, about a year,
Speaker 20: and I will have mentioned last year.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you're the You're the reason why the
Speaker 1: network clogged.
Speaker 7: To do this because I didn't question go ahead joining
Speaker 7: the I was joining the show.
Speaker 1: Hold on right, Carlos, your internet is still kind of
Speaker 1: in and out, buddy. We're trying to listen to you,
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, Rob.
Speaker 11: So, as Jason had mentioned, we had really good luck
Speaker 11: at Hamcash. We used short fast, we limited the hops.
Speaker 11: One other thing that we did set and I'm curious,
Speaker 11: I see you guys did not set that, and you
Speaker 11: know we didn't know for sure. We just went based
Speaker 11: on the description was changing the rebroadcast mode. We set
Speaker 11: that the local only. It's too curious.
Speaker 9: Yeah, if everybody sets it to local only, you might
Speaker 9: have a problem. But if let me put it this way. Up,
Speaker 9: I'm trying to remember exactly what we said, but like,
Speaker 9: if you have five nodes on your person, you should
Speaker 9: set for them to not rebroadcast that way, you're not
Speaker 9: just a walking echoed chamber as you walk around.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I never thought about that.
Speaker 10: Okay, Yeah, we were torn on this when we were
Speaker 10: talking about the event firm We're in the first place
Speaker 10: for Dayton, like defaulting to client mute, where that's not
Speaker 10: the case. Then if everyone's not aware of those distinctions,
Speaker 10: then you don't have a mesh anymore.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay it And admittedly, the titles on those different
Speaker 9: rebroadcast modes are suboptimal, and you kind of have to
Speaker 9: go digging around to the documentation to figure out what
Speaker 9: they do, and in some unfortunate cases you have to
Speaker 9: go digging around in the firmware to understand what they do.
Speaker 9: I say that the documentation is actually really great, We've
Speaker 9: got some really good people working on it, but the
Speaker 9: names in particular are not stellar.
Speaker 1: In some cases, that makes sense. Okay, cool, but.
Speaker 11: Yeah it worked great at hand casions still, just tuning
Speaker 11: a few things made a world of difference.
Speaker 1: I got to figure out if I can back up
Speaker 1: my I might leave my pocket node on the default
Speaker 1: because sure enough someone's going to be there with the
Speaker 1: default setting on a mestastic node. Oh absolutely, But but
Speaker 1: I might try my uh my whatever that t de
Speaker 1: whatever the Spec five version of the t deck is
Speaker 1: is the one I've got with its own with the
Speaker 1: new UI and whatnot. It's self contained, it's got its
Speaker 1: own keyboard. The ranger, the Ranger. Yeah, that's the Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Ranger. So I might I might flash that one
Speaker 1: with the him mention firm where and kind of see
Speaker 1: where that goes from there?
Speaker 7: But when we see this is going to give us
Speaker 7: any better? Might answer me better?
Speaker 1: A little bit a little bit better?
Speaker 20: Yeah, all right, So let me just cut to the
Speaker 20: chase and go where should I go to ask the
Speaker 20: questions that I have before Ham mentioned, so that I
Speaker 20: can ask them and have an appropriate deployment.
Speaker 7: For my use.
Speaker 9: I would say, jump on discord. No, jump on the
Speaker 9: jump on the mestastic discord. Ask there and there's you know,
Speaker 9: there's a bunch of people that that will have an idea,
Speaker 9: And honestly, part of the answer is going to be
Speaker 9: we're not one hundred percent sure, make sure and let
Speaker 9: us know how it works.
Speaker 1: One's ever ever, No one's ever put a fourteen thousand
Speaker 1: foot in ten on one of these carlos.
Speaker 7: So I have, well the thing they might have.
Speaker 20: I've joined them in Chicago Mesh from Rochelle and then
Speaker 20: repeated packets into the Quad Cities Iowa Mesh and there
Speaker 20: were people talking on it and saying, hey, is that
Speaker 20: is that an airplane that's rebroadcasting for us? And you know,
Speaker 20: while I was up they were able to go back
Speaker 20: and forth. So, but that's what's a default settings or
Speaker 20: the default firmware. I don't know how it's going to
Speaker 20: behave with the dam mentioned firmwhere. So that's that was
Speaker 20: really the we're at.
Speaker 1: There's one way to find out.
Speaker 4: I guess James can build you a yaggy antenna for
Speaker 4: your parachute rig.
Speaker 21: The local only works. So in the case Robert, where
Speaker 21: you deployed a QR code for ham Nation, the reason
Speaker 21: that local only worked is because that key local only
Speaker 21: means we don't rebroadcast stuff if we can't decode it. Right,
Speaker 21: So your note had the key, so it was re
Speaker 21: broadcasting things and so that's basically what that is that
Speaker 21: is doing. So if you pre shared a QR code
Speaker 21: and everybody was using the same key, then that works.
Speaker 8: That works great if you're.
Speaker 21: Trying to provide if you're trying to provide infrastructure for
Speaker 21: other people like who are using their own key private groups,
Speaker 21: they would not be taking any advantage of the other
Speaker 21: nodes that are nearby.
Speaker 8: So that's where that would would be an issue potentially.
Speaker 8: But in an event.
Speaker 21: Case, that probably is a setting that it would be
Speaker 21: fine for us to put in place because if we're
Speaker 21: sharing all three channels and doing the local only, that
Speaker 21: would rebroadcast any of those three so.
Speaker 9: Except except for DMS, Except for DMS. Garth would kill
Speaker 9: DMS with local only. I think so, because you can't
Speaker 9: that's the whole point. Man, people in the middle kimp
Speaker 9: direct them. I honestly, I would have to go into
Speaker 9: the firmwhare and look at exactly how it handles that.
Speaker 9: But my suspicion is that local only would not for
Speaker 9: DMS possible.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, we didn't seem to have any trouble
Speaker 11: with DMS, but maybe there was enough people that were
Speaker 11: not configured in that way that maybe it was carrying it.
Speaker 21: I don't know, but that's possible.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Now would that would that reserve some bandwidth if
Speaker 11: you did turn that on as well? Again, just thinking
Speaker 11: of a really big, really big of.
Speaker 9: That, I think I think the way that probably it
Speaker 9: would reserve potentially a little bit, but probably the best
Speaker 9: guidance is, again, if you've got more than one node,
Speaker 9: or you know multiple people going to be together, give
Speaker 9: more than one node together in the party, turn most
Speaker 9: of them onto client mute. That way, they don't rebroadcast anything,
Speaker 9: because every every rebroadcast is airtime, right and even if
Speaker 9: even if a remote node can't pull down the entire message,
Speaker 9: it may still see, hey there's a preamble there. I'm
Speaker 9: going to shut up and listen for a minute. And
Speaker 9: so every rebroadcast kind of from that shared airtime. So
Speaker 9: anything you can do, and that's that's essentially what the
Speaker 9: what the special firm where is it is?
Speaker 5: What everything?
Speaker 9: What can we do to figure out how to get
Speaker 9: off of that shared airtime? How can we shut up
Speaker 9: as much as possible with each individual node that way,
Speaker 9: there's plenty of plenty of bandwidth for everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 20: Cool.
Speaker 1: Good. Do we have a link for the mestastic discord.
Speaker 5: We can get you one.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I'm not sure if I'm a
Speaker 1: member of.
Speaker 10: That or not on at dot word take the discord logo.
Speaker 1: Why would I have not a choin. So we've got
Speaker 1: a DFW dis discord for meshtastic and an and I'm
Speaker 1: a member of the Austin Meshtastic group. But that's not you, guys, that's.
Speaker 11: I've got a North Texas one as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, North Texas and Austin. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: member of both of those, but I'm not seeing that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go try to find that. Frank, do you want
Speaker 1: to go to try to find that? Go to mestastic
Speaker 1: dot org and see if you can find a link
Speaker 1: to discord on there somewhere. Thank you, yep, yep, Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, all three of you. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much for being here. Absolutely appreciate that. Oh, Garth
Speaker 1: put it in the chat, Frank, just share that in
Speaker 1: the in the chat of the uh Garth put it
Speaker 1: in the zoom chat. Share it in the in the
Speaker 1: in the live stream chat if you would please.
Speaker 14: He said that as soon as I got it, there you.
Speaker 1: Go, or Robert Okay, Robert just shared it. There you go. Cool,
Speaker 1: all right. I wanted, uh, guys, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: I want to try to give everyone as much time
Speaker 1: as we can here, so I'm not trying to rush anybody.
Speaker 1: If anyone has any questions, comments, or anything else about
Speaker 1: what something you want to say, please feel free. There's
Speaker 1: not We were very shoot from the hip around here.
Speaker 1: So James joined us, and I asked him to join
Speaker 1: us from Quirky QRP because he's doing a uh in
Speaker 1: lieu of the fact that Josh and Jason are not
Speaker 1: doing their what'd you call it? What do you call it?
Speaker 2: Uh? There there.
Speaker 5: Hunt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're not doing that this year. So James
Speaker 1: has set up something new that he told me about
Speaker 1: earlier today. So go ahead, man, thanks for being here.
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a little thanks for having me. It's a
Speaker 22: little impromptu. I was really hoping those guys were going
Speaker 22: to do that again because it was really cool when
Speaker 22: I think the first year they did it was twenty
Speaker 22: twenty three, which was my first year at him. Mention,
Speaker 22: So that was great. So what I'm doing is a
Speaker 22: little bit of a fox hunt. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 22: five miliwatts c W beacon on the one point twenty
Speaker 22: five meter band, so anyone can find the frequency and
Speaker 22: try to track it down, and uh, whoever tracks it
Speaker 22: down and then and then hunts.
Speaker 12: Me down, we'll get a prize.
Speaker 22: I'll have a few prizes in my backpack that I'm
Speaker 22: hauling with me, and if things go quickly, i might
Speaker 22: start giving a you know, taking down some names and
Speaker 22: call signs and giving away some T shirts I've run
Speaker 22: out of prizes on hand. And then of course I'll have,
Speaker 22: you know, a backpack full of stickers that I'll be
Speaker 22: handing out to the winners and anyone who can. If
Speaker 22: I'm still doing it after all the prices are gone,
Speaker 22: I'll be hanging out stickers. If things go slowly and
Speaker 22: people are having trouble finding it, which they might, I
Speaker 22: have a fallback position for like halfway through Saturday if
Speaker 22: if if people are not finding it Friday or Saturday,
Speaker 22: I'm gonna be monitoring some quirky non ham frequencies and
Speaker 22: if you can find me on unsaid frequency or frequencies
Speaker 22: as I will be hopping around and make contact with me,
Speaker 22: you win and get a price. But still gotta hunt
Speaker 22: me down in person at the show, okay, and there
Speaker 22: are many ways to hunt me down, I will say,
Speaker 22: but that's up to you.
Speaker 1: Just he's been known to be at the at the
Speaker 1: campsite before, so I'll just put that out there too.
Speaker 19: Just stick that thing on a just stick that thing
Speaker 19: on a scooter and yeah, fox, hunt Fox.
Speaker 23: That would be hysterical. Oh, just like get a magnet.
Speaker 23: And just as somebody's driving.
Speaker 19: By, I was right here, he was right here.
Speaker 18: O god, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: All right, So I think what James is saying is
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on mers and uh, probably using some
Speaker 1: salty language because who cares. So you guys bring your
Speaker 1: Merge radios, not just Merves, not just mers. Uh, it'll
Speaker 1: be a Carloss's pack, Jody says, it'll be a Carloss's pack.
Speaker 1: That's good. I like that.
Speaker 4: Is that the one that falls out of the airplane.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, it's gonna land on some guy's house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna land on some guy's house somewhere. So cool,
Speaker 1: Thanks man, thanks for thanks for yeah no, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, yes, sorry.
Speaker 22: Yeah, the beacon frequency is going to probably change every
Speaker 22: time someone finds it and surprised. That way, people aren't
Speaker 22: trying to cheat the system. Yeah, and groups, if if
Speaker 22: people are working together as a then it's just one
Speaker 22: price for that group. Okay, if you show up in
Speaker 22: a group, you're getting getting one price for tracking down
Speaker 22: the fox.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm starting Friday.
Speaker 14: So where do frequency as you're listening.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, you gotta see you gotta scan through the
Speaker 1: frequently through the band. It's uh, it's gonna be somewhere
Speaker 1: between two two two and two two five. For those
Speaker 1: of you who don't know the two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: mega Hurts band, it'll be between two to two two.
Speaker 1: It's only three mega Hurts band with so somewhere there
Speaker 1: shouldn't be too hard.
Speaker 12: And it's a CW signal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's probably at the bottom of the band.
Speaker 12: And it's only gonna be five millions.
Speaker 5: Five mili.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a twenty band, so that'll that'll probably go
Speaker 1: pretty far on the two twenty bands.
Speaker 14: Don't much at hand bench.
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to get your ten awayers out.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, Kyle, can you record a pre recorded UH
Speaker 4: the frequency is in use message for me.
Speaker 19: Please, I will, I will do it for a fee.
Speaker 15: Anything is available for a fee for.
Speaker 4: Free professional services.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We had talked about using the two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: megahertz frequency as our YouTubers meet us here frequency. We've
Speaker 1: in the past, we've used one forty six four five
Speaker 1: and we use that at ham Kash, and we used
Speaker 1: it last year at Huntsville, and we used it at
Speaker 1: ham Vention last year. But there were a couple of
Speaker 1: guys talking on fusion on that frequency on at ham
Speaker 1: Vention last year, and there's just a lot more people
Speaker 1: on the air, so some of us are going to
Speaker 1: be monitoring two two three dot five hundreds. So if
Speaker 1: you have a two twenty ht bring it with you
Speaker 1: and UH National FM simplex calling frequency for two twenties
Speaker 1: two two three dot five, you might find some people.
Speaker 1: There might be some people on it, and if so,
Speaker 1: we might we might move off to like five five
Speaker 1: two two three dot five five zero or something like that.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna find anywhere, if you're gonna find
Speaker 1: people on the two twenty simplex frequency, ham Vision would
Speaker 1: be the place that you found them, so because there'll
Speaker 1: be a lot of people in the air that weekend.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you guys have a two twenty HT,
Speaker 1: bring it with you because we're gonna be doing some
Speaker 1: of that. So James, thank you very much for being
Speaker 1: here tonight. Buddy.
Speaker 4: The Quansha, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Uh, there's there's a quan Chang that does the the new.
Speaker 1: The the bf F eight hp pro from Balfang Tech
Speaker 1: does the uh that new walks on k Q or
Speaker 1: Q ten h or whatever it is that it's a
Speaker 1: it's a quad band, but it has two twenty. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be carrying my D seventy five because I'm fancy.
Speaker 23: So you can open up a lot of baufangs. You
Speaker 23: can sur yeah, yeah, and you go I forget what
Speaker 23: the said. I did a video about it, but you can.
Speaker 23: You can basically change the frequencies. It's different than unlocking
Speaker 23: it to transmit like outside of the bands, but you
Speaker 23: just you just open up in chirp and for a
Speaker 23: lot of the bout fangs it works. So if you
Speaker 23: don't have a two twenty radio, but you have a
Speaker 23: bow fang, you can probably get it to work on too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how much power it puts out.
Speaker 6: It didn't even register on my meter.
Speaker 23: But for around you know, just for around Dayton. I mean, hell,
Speaker 23: if it's putting out you know a couple of milliwats,
Speaker 23: you should probably Yeah.
Speaker 22: So has anyone on lock to uh one on the
Speaker 22: TK eleven yet?
Speaker 12: Anyone heard anything about that?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have one of those.
Speaker 18: I get my hands on one yet, it's the.
Speaker 12: I got one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. So uh, anybody okay? So anybody else in
Speaker 1: the chat?
Speaker 13: Is it?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Freddie Mac? I think maybe this is you? Is anyone?
Speaker 1: Is this your first time at Dayton this year?
Speaker 5: Actually?
Speaker 18: I got to go last year, remember, uh did you?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: Got me?
Speaker 18: That got me that RV spot?
Speaker 1: Oh right, right, right right, that's right. That was your
Speaker 1: first time.
Speaker 18: That was my first?
Speaker 1: Okay? Good? Is anybody in the okay? Is anybody in
Speaker 1: the zoom? Is this going to be your first year
Speaker 1: at Dayton? Josh?
Speaker 18: Here's your first year, first trip, Paul, it's.
Speaker 1: Your first yep? Okay, Paul, Dave Josh. Mike raised his hand,
Speaker 1: but I know he's lying. Uh yeah, oh yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the v X eight right v X eight or
Speaker 1: the VX six the yaser. You're muted, Mike, I can't
Speaker 1: hear you. I probably shouldn't tell you that v X
Speaker 1: seven are. Oh that's the seven. That's that's the good one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like my VX six are. I tell you what
Speaker 1: it's and if you unlock the VA if you mars
Speaker 1: mod it does add the six meter band to it.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but.
Speaker 1: It's not Dave's not as.
Speaker 5: Good as this one.
Speaker 23: I don't know why they discontinued this and kept the
Speaker 23: set in the six that.
Speaker 1: Makes I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure why they
Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, that's right. So cool. Okay, So Dave,
Speaker 1: you're in gonna be at a booth. Josh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be walking around recording videos. I assume you don't have
Speaker 1: a booth, do you No, I'll be walking around, Paul,
Speaker 1: what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: It best to go without a plan.
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, there's a slight plan. And it's Friday. Do
Speaker 24: the things that I want to see and do so
Speaker 24: that I get so I make sure I see and
Speaker 24: do those Saturday other stuff. But this meshtastic thing is good.
Speaker 24: I'm hoping to get my mesh tastic things set up right,
Speaker 24: and I think between everybody there, I I'll be able
Speaker 24: to do so.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's my first time. I'm excited.
Speaker 11: I'm I'm gonna my stream later.
Speaker 24: I'm going to go through things and figure out what
Speaker 24: to do and kind of plan it so that I
Speaker 24: don't miss the things I want to do.
Speaker 19: Your mind is about ready to be blown.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 13: Well.
Speaker 24: By planning, I mean like if there's like I want
Speaker 24: to do the AU hands on, I want to go
Speaker 24: see the ft X hands on.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to be over there for that.
Speaker 24: Yeah, So stuff like that, or if there's a if
Speaker 24: there's a class or you know whatever, I want to
Speaker 24: make sure I go see it.
Speaker 14: I just show up and go where the winds take
Speaker 14: me because it's huge.
Speaker 15: That's a lot of wins. Frank so, well, I create
Speaker 15: a lot. So I'm actually I take that bat Kyle
Speaker 15: was a good producer.
Speaker 14: More.
Speaker 4: I'm excited to meet a bunch of guys too.
Speaker 24: There's there's guys here in this group and other groups
Speaker 24: and and and people on that are in the chat
Speaker 24: there that are going to be there. So it's going
Speaker 24: to be fun to meet a lot more people.
Speaker 1: So our meetup spot is going to be I have
Speaker 1: a camp site, the same campsite I've had for the
Speaker 1: last three Let's see, this will be the third year.
Speaker 1: This would be the third year I've had this campsite,
Speaker 1: I think, no, fourth year. This would be the fourth
Speaker 1: year I've had it. If you if you don't know,
Speaker 1: if you know anything about if you don't know, this
Speaker 1: may not make sense to you. I don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Maybe I can with three words it once I get
Speaker 1: there is talking about that last weekend on the live stream.
Speaker 1: But if you come out of the the building where
Speaker 1: gigaparts and yes you are, which is the building? Is
Speaker 1: that building? Three events?
Speaker 6: Okay, that's the same building I'm in.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Yeah, there is a map, but I just
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the map. I don't remember the names.
Speaker 1: So if you come out of the back of that building,
Speaker 1: so the front, the front, the front door to all
Speaker 1: the buildings is in the little vestibule area where the
Speaker 1: where the food trucks are and whatnot. So if you
Speaker 1: come out of the back of that building between gigaparts
Speaker 1: and YESU or closer to the gigapart side which they're
Speaker 1: in the back. They're pretty much in the corner. They're
Speaker 1: not the last thing in the corner, but they're almost
Speaker 1: you come out and you look towards the back of
Speaker 1: the venue, you'll see a big antenna tower with a
Speaker 1: yaggy on it back there, and I guess that's the
Speaker 1: the I don't know which ham radio shack that is,
Speaker 1: but it's a ham shack, and that's a building that
Speaker 1: they have a lot of times. They have some forums
Speaker 1: in that building. So if you if you look at
Speaker 1: that and go to the left, we're the second row
Speaker 1: of r vs back there. And if you just kind
Speaker 1: of start walking back there again on the frequency two
Speaker 1: two three five or one four five, and once you
Speaker 1: get close enough, if we're there, you're gonna hear us.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not gonna be real quiet or anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get Carlos to land in the
Speaker 1: RV spot at some point in time, but we'll probably
Speaker 1: get kicked out after we get.
Speaker 7: We're supposed to keep that quiet.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Oh yeah, right right, you got some emergency.
Speaker 25: I was going to say, if they're not going to
Speaker 25: allow drones, boy, if the.
Speaker 1: Cars, but that's gonna be our spot and We'll be
Speaker 1: there off and on during the day. It's just kind
Speaker 1: of like a chill out. I'm tired of walking. Let's
Speaker 1: sit down for a little bit. Spot out there. So
Speaker 1: everybody's welcome. Bring a chair if you're driving to him, Benson,
Speaker 1: bring a chair or two or three. We will have chairs,
Speaker 1: but we won't have enough chairs for everybody, so bring
Speaker 1: your own chair. I have a follow up on that note. Okay, Frank,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 14: If you bring your chair, we appreciate you. Also leave
Speaker 14: with your chair.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Yeah, yeah, take it with you. We
Speaker 1: don't want a bunch of extra chairs to take home.
Speaker 19: So hey, Jason, I got the map up. If you
Speaker 19: want to make the big screen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hold on, can you share? I don't think
Speaker 1: I turned that on, so I'll turn that on, and
Speaker 1: Kyle is I don't Oh, oh there it is, okay,
Speaker 1: it says Jason is talking on.
Speaker 15: All right, so I'm gonna talk. So I'm on the
Speaker 15: big screen.
Speaker 19: So you got the three buildings, the three big buildings,
Speaker 19: and then you got the track, right, So that's the
Speaker 19: big So the Giga Parts booth is in this building.
Speaker 19: So if you come out of this building and walk
Speaker 19: across Sugar Creek Street. There's two big lots here where
Speaker 19: the RVs said, if you come down to the second
Speaker 19: lot down here, kind of kind of in the middle,
Speaker 19: a little.
Speaker 1: Bit on the other side of the road from there.
Speaker 19: Yeah, so a little probably sixty sixty percent into that
Speaker 19: into that second lot.
Speaker 15: It's right there, right where my cursor is.
Speaker 1: It's actually across the road from where your cursor is.
Speaker 14: I thought, I thought, no, no, where, we're on the
Speaker 14: second the second street, but on the left side.
Speaker 19: Oh, you're right here, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on the left side. That's correct.
Speaker 15: Yeah, right here.
Speaker 1: So that little street that looks like it's up above
Speaker 1: you right there, it's it's just kind of a walking
Speaker 1: path and some people, yeah, it's not really a road there,
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, so it's like right exactly, it's right there. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's where it's at.
Speaker 14: Also, to point out, if you zoom out, Kyle, the
Speaker 14: swap met area is going to be the whole horse
Speaker 14: track that green field just to the northwest of it,
Speaker 14: that area there, and also they said behind the buildings
Speaker 14: this year and more in between, it's like gonna be
Speaker 14: swamped with swap meets area.
Speaker 1: It's expanded quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 19: So it's down here, right, So that's one area. The
Speaker 19: second area is the bigger area is here. But you're saying,
Speaker 19: and there's also some swap meat like ad here too.
Speaker 14: Yeah, but also behind I think building one, two and
Speaker 14: three back here. No no, no, scroll out behind gigaparts and
Speaker 14: the flex buildings.
Speaker 6: Me really, yeah, that's that's correct. That used to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: They're gonna so where the vendor is gonna.
Speaker 6: Park someplace else exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my goodness. I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: they were putting Uh, I didn't realize they were putting
Speaker 1: swaps back there.
Speaker 11: You know, I gonna put them in that area where
Speaker 11: they put like the emergency vehicles and stuff, because that
Speaker 11: never gets filled.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, uh huh hhmm.
Speaker 19: Well to U three or four years ago, there were
Speaker 19: like some big tents and they had actual vendors.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes they did. And that's one of the years
Speaker 1: that it rained and uh some people got muddy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that that is true.
Speaker 19: Interesting, Okay, rain and get it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoever hear the same thing.
Speaker 19: Goodness you're talking about.
Speaker 24: I have one question Jason, all right, how much cash
Speaker 24: should I bring to not go overboard?
Speaker 1: That's that's that's totally up to you, man, That's totally
Speaker 1: up to you. I mean, there are at ms there,
Speaker 1: so you know you can you can get yourself in trouble,
Speaker 1: even the cash early in the morning. That is true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is true, very true.
Speaker 4: I guess my question is, Paul, is how much can
Speaker 4: you take back with you?
Speaker 18: Yeah, because you find twelve things you can't live without.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I'm flying, so I'm not worried about being going
Speaker 24: too crazy ship them home. But I heard that I
Speaker 24: can have Jason bring it home and then Frank's just
Speaker 24: gonna stay in Dayton.
Speaker 19: I'm flying back.
Speaker 1: I think that Paul. I somehow I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like you might have an end somewhere to get stuff
Speaker 1: checked on a flight. I think that might be a
Speaker 1: little bit easier for you then most people. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel that way, but.
Speaker 24: But I'd probably do what Bill does, and that's just fedexit.
Speaker 1: We get a well there you go. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Bill's not here tonight. I thought we'd see him. He
Speaker 1: might be working, but I don't know. So Kyle, while
Speaker 1: you're up there on the screen, why don't you tell
Speaker 1: us about the troll Pub because we've got some We
Speaker 1: got a couple of different things we're doing this year,
Speaker 1: same venue. But long story short, they I don't want
Speaker 1: to I don't want to throw him under the bus,
Speaker 1: but we didn't have as good an experience there last
Speaker 1: year as what we have in the past. But I
Speaker 1: think we have that fixed.
Speaker 15: So well, we have that fixed in theory right there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I've.
Speaker 19: Been communicating with the troll Pub people and they told
Speaker 19: me that quote, we will have two or three servers
Speaker 19: for you on Saturday nights.
Speaker 15: So let me back up.
Speaker 19: Troll Pub was something that we put together through or
Speaker 19: four years ago to get everyone together to meet the YouTubers,
Speaker 19: to just have a social hour and whatnot. And the
Speaker 19: troll Pub was very was very fitting because you know,
Speaker 19: people are trolls on the internet.
Speaker 15: Yes, so never no, never.
Speaker 19: So the first year that we did this, we rented
Speaker 19: out like half of the there's like a sidebar. We
Speaker 19: rented half the bar or half the sidebar, and then
Speaker 19: we spilled into this patio area, which is great.
Speaker 4: A couple of.
Speaker 19: Years go by, we get more and more people and
Speaker 19: then last year we kind of had an issue where
Speaker 19: people showed up like at three o'clock in the afternoon,
Speaker 19: the thing didn't start till five. We usually run a
Speaker 19: tab and people put into the tab, and that was
Speaker 19: not communicated correctly.
Speaker 15: It was a mess.
Speaker 19: So what we are doing is I went back and said, Okay,
Speaker 19: time out. We got to redo this. I talked to
Speaker 19: the Troll Pub and what we're gonna do is, instead
Speaker 19: of the sidebar that we've had in years past, we
Speaker 19: are actually roped off in the dining room for fifty
Speaker 19: to sixty people. The event starts at five pm. Don't
Speaker 19: get there beforehand. If you get there beforehand, just go
Speaker 19: to the bar and have a drink on your own dime,
Speaker 19: and then wait until myself or Jason get there or
Speaker 19: somebody that knows, you know, kind of is the coordinator
Speaker 19: of this thing. Let us get situated and then we'll
Speaker 19: bring everybody.
Speaker 1: Into the dining room.
Speaker 19: You guys can eat and drink and socialize there. We'll
Speaker 19: get the bill figured out, we'll get all of that
Speaker 19: stuff ironed out, and then once everybody is like done
Speaker 19: eating a drink, and then we can migrate up to
Speaker 19: the bar and go out to the patio and do
Speaker 19: our normal thing. So that is the thing that we
Speaker 19: wanted to communicate is the troll pub is on. We've
Speaker 19: got new things going on, but don't The problem was
Speaker 19: people showed up early and said all, I'm part of
Speaker 19: the YouTube bunch or the Hamm radio bunch, and then
Speaker 19: stuff started to fly and we had an issue. So
Speaker 19: don't go over to the bar, have a drink over there,
Speaker 19: and wait for some people to show up to give direction,
Speaker 19: and then we're all gonna set down together. We're all
Speaker 19: going to socialize and we'll figure it out from there.
Speaker 19: But it's going to start at five five pm.
Speaker 1: And to clarify with the in year's path, the first
Speaker 1: year we were there, they made us put a two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars deposit down. Now, to be fair,
Speaker 1: I gave them my credit card number. They never actually
Speaker 1: charged me two hundred and fifty dollars as a deposit.
Speaker 1: They never charged me, but they said that if you
Speaker 1: don't spend, if we're going to rope off a section
Speaker 1: for you and you don't spend two fifty, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to pay this two hundred and fifty dollars deposit.
Speaker 1: And we're like, okay, that's fine, we'll probably it was
Speaker 1: not an issue, trust me. So when we got there
Speaker 1: that year and the following years, I just went ahead
Speaker 1: and said, look, you guys already have my credit card.
Speaker 1: I will just cover the first two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: dollars and then let me know when when all these
Speaker 1: people that are here in our section, when the total
Speaker 1: bill gets to two fifty, let me know and we'll
Speaker 1: cut it off. And I did that and someone Josh
Speaker 1: came in behind me, Mike came behind him, two or
Speaker 1: three or four other people came in behind there. But
Speaker 1: that that was totally voluntary. That's not we don't want
Speaker 1: to We don't want and I'll probably do that again
Speaker 1: this year, but I can't speak for anybody else. So
Speaker 1: it's it's totally don't expect to have your bill paid for,
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. We were We like
Speaker 1: to cover as much as we can because you guys
Speaker 1: are great to us on the YouTube community, but that
Speaker 1: is totally there's no there shouldn't be any expectation. And
Speaker 1: somebody last year was like, well, I thought the YouTuber's
Speaker 1: paid for all this, and well, no, that's not really
Speaker 1: how it worked the first few years. It's just that
Speaker 1: some people myself and five six seven other people and
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys, a lot of you watchers.
Speaker 1: I know, I know last year there was at least
Speaker 1: two or three guys who were just channel viewers, not
Speaker 1: even YouTubers, and they were just there for us because
Speaker 1: they watch all of us and they're like, oh, pick
Speaker 1: up the next two hundred dollars or one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars or something. So it was very generous of
Speaker 1: the community that was there. But just don't expect that
Speaker 1: unless unless you get there and ask what the deal is,
Speaker 1: and if they say, well there's nobody paying right now,
Speaker 1: than just expect to pay for yourself.
Speaker 19: But yeah, so that's the that's the thing on on
Speaker 19: Saturday night. So Saturday night, right, yep, yea And yeah.
Speaker 20: Hey, Kyle, Yes, thank you for organizing all this, man,
Speaker 20: I know this cannot be easy.
Speaker 7: It's got to take time to thank you for handling
Speaker 7: all this.
Speaker 15: Well, you're welcome.
Speaker 19: Yeah, and whatever it burns down like it did last year,
Speaker 19: everyone can sent their.
Speaker 4: Dot com yeah, and you might make it into a
Speaker 4: future episode of Monday.
Speaker 1: Kyle has done a lot of leg work to get
Speaker 1: this because that because we were we were basically determined
Speaker 1: to drop troll Pub and go somewhere else last year,
Speaker 1: and I guess Kyle got with him and and kind
Speaker 1: of ironed everything out. So they're on.
Speaker 19: Yeah, they're on a pipe time.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and this is why Kyle is the project manager.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody. People who don't
Speaker 1: work in the IT world don't understand that. But I
Speaker 1: got that. I totally got. Not that I've ever been
Speaker 1: on a PIP myself, but you know, it's a it's
Speaker 1: all good. So I thank your regulator, Thank you Kyle
Speaker 1: for doing that. Charlie. I see, I see Charlie join,
Speaker 1: and I see Vince join. I want to hear from
Speaker 1: you guys. And I know there's two or three. I
Speaker 1: think I've let everyone talk. Josh, you haven't said much.
Speaker 1: Let me think, let me scan through here. So yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get Vince. Let's get you. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: the floor, buddy. What's going on?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Hey, good after evening noon, better late than never, Mother's
Speaker 6: Day supper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going to be so
Speaker 6: great to see all of you guys down at Xenia
Speaker 6: this year and at the Troll Pub I am so excited.
Speaker 6: Oh oh, I forgot my prop and I am ready
Speaker 6: with stickers.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm smarter.
Speaker 6: Okay, we are ready with stickers. And what a stupid sticker?
Speaker 6: I know, buddy, if you're coming into Booth thirty eleven,
Speaker 6: you're going to be wearing one. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That's going on.
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm super stoked to be there.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: You'll find me down there in the Ham Radio work
Speaker 6: Bench booth most of the time, with Booth thirty eleven
Speaker 6: thirty twelve. That's in the rear corner of the building
Speaker 6: three Marconi Building, same building as Gigaparts and and and yeah, Sue,
Speaker 6: that's the word I was looking for. And a whole
Speaker 6: bunch of other really nice people. So that's cool. Friday
Speaker 6: at noon I'll be in Creator's Corner just for an
Speaker 6: hour doing a meet and greet. That's Booth forty two eleven.
Speaker 6: Thanks to Ham Radio dude for setting that up. And
Speaker 6: Sunday and Sunday morning, Kyle, have you talked about trivia yet?
Speaker 15: I have not.
Speaker 6: You're so why didn't I talk announce it? I'm here
Speaker 6: so listen Sunday morning, we are going to do a
Speaker 6: ham bentioned first thanks to the brilliant minds of Chris
Speaker 6: ris Miller who's the Forums chair, Kyle Craig, and some
Speaker 6: turkey from Canada who doesn't have a brilliant mind but
Speaker 6: he's helping out, and we are going to do Cahoots
Speaker 6: trivia live and in person. There will be prizes, and
Speaker 6: some of the prizes are very nice.
Speaker 1: Evan's asking if there'll be a Unicorn mask. I think
Speaker 1: that's what most people want to know. Would the Unicorn
Speaker 1: mask making a power.
Speaker 19: Well, I don't know. We might do a whole round
Speaker 19: on Unicorn.
Speaker 6: So well, we'll see what we can do about the
Speaker 6: unicorn masks. So yeah, indeed, So that's happening Sunday. And
Speaker 6: then if you're really bored and you're really tired and
Speaker 6: you need something to help put you asleep, just stay
Speaker 6: in Forum Room one because at ten thirty I am presenting.
Speaker 6: So they were really scraping the bottom of the barrel
Speaker 6: to ask me to present, and I said, yes, So
Speaker 6: here we are, and I'm going to talk about not
Speaker 6: spending money and a unique approach to how to design
Speaker 6: and build your own go kit up before you pick
Speaker 6: up the credit card or fork over some cash so
Speaker 6: they can have a candy store.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a translator to translate a boot in
Speaker 1: all those other words.
Speaker 6: You know my name, my name, My name is not
Speaker 6: Stuart Crawford v nine CF. Stuart is a dear friend
Speaker 6: of mine, and he does say a boot, I know,
Speaker 6: I say it about so there won't be many Canadian translations.
Speaker 1: There's a slight there's a slight hint in your accent, Vince,
Speaker 1: but it's not bad at all.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, Well that's that's what I get for growing up
Speaker 6: in southern Ontario, you know, near Buffalo. Right, So that's right,
Speaker 6: That's that's what it is. So hey, that's that's what's
Speaker 6: going on. Man, I'm I'm super stoked. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 6: you'll find me a Vendor Night at four Days in
Speaker 6: May on Thursday night as well. I have a table there.
Speaker 6: So it's got some three D printable stuffs and other
Speaker 6: things you never know.
Speaker 1: Excellent.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so what's going on?
Speaker 1: Several people in here are We've got I think we've
Speaker 1: got almost half of the crew at four Day in May,
Speaker 1: Four Days in May, Vendor Night.
Speaker 6: On this live stream now I think, I think so
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 1: That's great. We'll walk around and send invites for him
Speaker 1: Venture twenty twenty six when I'm there next week, say hey,
Speaker 1: come on to the show next time. We'll get you
Speaker 1: everybody on. Yeah, So thank you, Benns, thanks.
Speaker 6: For joining, Chason, thanks for hosting us as always.
Speaker 1: My bet, Yeah, no problem. Charlie, what's going on, buddy,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard from you in a long time.
Speaker 26: Yeah.
Speaker 17: Yeah, Hey, everybody, it's so good to be here and
Speaker 17: to see all my good friends.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 17: I'm really excited about going back again to have mention.
Speaker 17: I'm gonna be staying with Adam and Ara, this time
Speaker 17: in an Airbnb. I'm flying out Tuesday and Adam and
Speaker 17: I are going to spend all day Wednesday in the
Speaker 17: Air Force Museum. So well, yeah, we didn't get I
Speaker 17: didn't get a chance to do that yet. So that's
Speaker 17: what we're doing, and then Thursday we'll do the four
Speaker 17: days in May. I'm going to help out with that
Speaker 17: a little bit behind the scenes. I'm kind of I've
Speaker 17: kind of helped a little bit, yeah last year, and
Speaker 17: we'll do again this year. Then then the Vendor Night
Speaker 17: and then you know, Friday, I got a presentation I'm
Speaker 17: given on my adventures up in the Novajo Nation with
Speaker 17: my good friend Herb who's a Navajo code talker. So
Speaker 17: I'll be talking about that.
Speaker 1: I'll be fun.
Speaker 17: That's gonna be a noon on Friday. Yeah, Keith Schlautmann
Speaker 17: K R seven r K and I are are tag teaming,
Speaker 17: so he's gonna be covering a different topic. But it's
Speaker 17: it's the Soda presentation, so so we'll be doing that
Speaker 17: and then you know, I'm just gonna enjoy I'm going
Speaker 17: to go and try to meet as many folks as
Speaker 17: I can and just say hi and hang out and
Speaker 17: just have fun. I haven't really got a lot of
Speaker 17: plans as far as anything other than that. I'm not
Speaker 17: I don't have a booth, I don't have you know,
Speaker 17: vendor night stuff going on. I might capture a little video,
Speaker 17: as you know, some of you may not know, but
Speaker 17: I've I've kind of taken a break from YouTube and
Speaker 17: social media and all that just kind of I kind
Speaker 17: of had enough for a while and then but I've
Speaker 17: kind of been low key. But I'm going to be
Speaker 17: picking that up again in the fall, and I might
Speaker 17: I might hit a video or two before then, but
Speaker 17: I've just been enjoying the time off. We've had a
Speaker 17: lot of new arrivals in our family, and I've just
Speaker 17: been kind of focusing on some of my health things.
Speaker 17: I've lost fifty five pounds and.
Speaker 1: So just wow, wow, it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I can see it here, buddy, I can see it here.
Speaker 15: It's just been focusing on other things.
Speaker 17: But you know, I love the channel, and I love
Speaker 17: the YouTubers and I love all ham radio stuff. So
Speaker 17: I'll be back, just just taking enjoying the break for
Speaker 17: a bit.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 14: Sometimes we need those breaks, man.
Speaker 6: Thank you right here. You can see it, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, it looks like, yeah, it looks like your
Speaker 1: headset is bigger. I thought it was, but maybe your face.
Speaker 27: Is bigger cans I thought, yeah, yeah, wells right here, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 27: thanks for being here, Charlie.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're able to join, man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yep. Uh. So there's a guy in the chat named
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds of yeas you, and I've
Speaker 1: really liked to know the story behind that.
Speaker 5: I met him at Huntsville last year.
Speaker 1: Really Okay, he's.
Speaker 5: Got a channel.
Speaker 25: He's got some cool stuff on there.
Speaker 17: Uh.
Speaker 5: Great guy, great guy, he's.
Speaker 1: All fun good yeah, cool.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Uh well Josh, you haven't had a chance to talk tonight,
Speaker 1: won't you go ahead?
Speaker 25: Well, this is the first trip to Dayton. Yeah, so
Speaker 25: we're excited about that. I'll be leaving out whenever I
Speaker 25: wake up on Thursday morning. If I'm not going to work,
Speaker 25: that's whenever I want to, but probably probably eight or
Speaker 25: nine o'clock. I'm an Eastern time, so that'll put me
Speaker 25: getting up there probably about three o'clock. Got to stop
Speaker 25: by the fair grounds, pick up my uh credential and then, uh,
Speaker 25: I've got one thing I've got on my plan for
Speaker 25: Thursday night. And it's probably going to be controversial among
Speaker 25: you guys, but I gotta try skyline chili.
Speaker 1: I have heard.
Speaker 4: You do not need to.
Speaker 7: Go there yourself, are you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Kissed the other Josh took us there was that two
Speaker 1: years ago, two years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I've had it. I can say I've had it.
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, that's all I gotta say.
Speaker 4: The chili dogs. The chili dog is okay. Enjoy your
Speaker 4: chili is not that great.
Speaker 14: Joyer spaghetti with water.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the hot dog.
Speaker 19: Wasn't even that great.
Speaker 1: No, no, I didn't.
Speaker 7: There's nothing good there.
Speaker 17: The best thing on the menu is mid.
Speaker 25: Is there anybody in here that's this place?
Speaker 23: If you want a good chili dog, you're gonna need
Speaker 23: to drive a few more hours north and get into Michigan.
Speaker 14: And the chat it's good.
Speaker 23: Listen, I've lived in Ohio twice times. There's nothing good
Speaker 23: about the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: In the chat.
Speaker 4: Doesn't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 25: Well, some of some of you do know that I
Speaker 25: do work for the University of Tennessee.
Speaker 5: So go Valls.
Speaker 25: There is nothing good about Ohio after the college football
Speaker 25: playoff this year.
Speaker 5: If you as mate, there you go.
Speaker 25: But I hear you guys talking about four Days in May.
Speaker 25: I've not heard of that. I might be interested in
Speaker 25: checking that out, So you gotta go.
Speaker 5: You gotta know.
Speaker 15: It's great.
Speaker 20: It's it's a lot of fun, so absolutely absolutely worth
Speaker 20: your Thursday and the entrance street cool.
Speaker 1: Who can explain what that is probably better than I can.
Speaker 15: Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie.
Speaker 17: Okay, So four Days in May is a conference that's
Speaker 17: held in conjunction with him. The ham Fest it say
Speaker 17: conference hosted by the Amateur Radio Club Internet, the q
Speaker 17: RP Amateur Radio Club International. It's a group of qrpers.
Speaker 17: And what's special about that is is there like some
Speaker 17: of the most smartest and uh well educated people out there.
Speaker 17: They're the ones who design and build the radios. Last year,
Speaker 17: for example, uh, on Thursday, it's it's a seminar, uh
Speaker 17: is the first part of it.
Speaker 15: It's eight hours.
Speaker 17: Last year we had the designer of the Allocraft K
Speaker 17: one and all the other craft products. He was there
Speaker 17: and gave a talk. And so it's it's people who
Speaker 17: are interested in q RP radios and in designing and
Speaker 17: building their own radios, either through kids or sometimes just
Speaker 17: you know, homebrew. And so some of the best minds
Speaker 17: are there to share their knowledge and and all of
Speaker 17: us go along and just just enjoy that. And then
Speaker 17: vendor Knight after that is is some of the people
Speaker 17: like like Jonathan here, who you know, he created his
Speaker 17: own his own radio and and uh, you know, I
Speaker 17: don't know whether he's going to be at vendor Night
Speaker 17: or not, but people who developed their own products will
Speaker 17: be at vendor Knight selling them and the things that
Speaker 17: you can't usually buy them other places, or if you can,
Speaker 17: it's uh, you know, you have to pay for shiping
Speaker 17: and stuff like that. They'll be here, like, yeah, Hans
Speaker 17: Summers is always there. He'll have he'll have the k X,
Speaker 17: the km X or the.
Speaker 1: QCX q QX QX and all of his his Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'll have to I'll have to get another
Speaker 1: kit from him that I don't build and haveing my
Speaker 1: shelf here at home. So that's generally for the last
Speaker 1: three years, that's what I've done. I buy a kid,
Speaker 1: I take it home. I've still got it right here.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, great, great, Yeah, no shipping and no
Speaker 1: overseas shipping from wherever he wherever he's shipping from.
Speaker 17: So right, So it's a seminar and then that, and
Speaker 17: then there's a break, and then there's a there's a
Speaker 17: vendor night. Then the following day you know, it's it's
Speaker 17: the Hamvention. So they you know, that Friday you do that.
Speaker 17: But then that Friday night they have a club night
Speaker 17: and a challenge where you know, you can enter in
Speaker 17: the contest to see who this year it's the it's
Speaker 17: the it's a you have a micro chip and you
Speaker 17: and you get to see how long how much power
Speaker 17: you can put through it. The person who can put
Speaker 17: through the most power through it without burning up the
Speaker 17: chip will win the competition. And then the following you know,
Speaker 17: on Saturday, there's a actual a a big dinner, a banquet,
Speaker 17: and there's a lot of recognition. There's usually somebody who
Speaker 17: is nominated to the q RP Hall of Fame who's
Speaker 17: recognized then at that at that banquet, as well as
Speaker 17: a lot of prizes are given out, So it's good.
Speaker 17: It's really a good things and it just kind of
Speaker 17: fills in where you know, it doesn't interfere with the hamvention,
Speaker 17: it just supplements it.
Speaker 1: So it's really great.
Speaker 4: Hey, Charlie, I got a question you might be able
Speaker 4: to answer, what is the definitive answer from the q
Speaker 4: RP International Group on what exactly is QRP as far
Speaker 4: as power ratings, because you'll see people running around there
Speaker 4: at dating with fifteen minus one.
Speaker 1: Fifteen hundred minus one is yeah fifteen yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 17: I don't think we have a definitive answer. I think
Speaker 17: there's a there's a recommendation that for Morris code it's
Speaker 17: you know five ten, and then for for a sideband
Speaker 17: ten to twenty. So, but you know it's it's in
Speaker 17: that range.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the Q signals, if you
Speaker 1: look at the Q signals, all of them, Okay, you
Speaker 1: read the definition of all the Q signals, QRP means
Speaker 1: are you running low power or decrease power. There's not
Speaker 1: actually a number ever assigned to it. A lot of
Speaker 1: people will tell you, oh, if it's over ten wats,
Speaker 1: it's not QRP. Well that's that's you're you're looking at
Speaker 1: it from a contest standpoint, because a lot of contests
Speaker 1: will say, if you're doing QRP, you need to use
Speaker 1: ten wats or less. Okay, fine, but there's not really
Speaker 1: to the traditional qr code. There's not actually a number
Speaker 1: put to it. So I'm a subscriber to fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: minus one equals QRP. That's that's my thought. But people
Speaker 1: would say what they want to.
Speaker 13: I guess it depends from person to person. Yes, Utosa,
Speaker 13: five watts is what I've heard, but I define it
Speaker 13: as any single digit number of watts. Is is a
Speaker 13: QRP single digit?
Speaker 1: Okay? So I can go that way.
Speaker 13: Anything up to ten watts, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 17: We don't need to we don't need it to be exact.
Speaker 17: It's just because half the time anyway, you don't know.
Speaker 17: You say you're running five wats and you could be
Speaker 17: running two anyway.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just yeah, that's true.
Speaker 13: And also you might be running equipment that you homebrewed
Speaker 13: in which you might not even know exactly how much
Speaker 13: power you're running in the first place.
Speaker 19: Jonathan, I think that's a T shirt single single digit
Speaker 19: q RP single.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like this one right here, Jonathan put in
Speaker 1: in our zoom chat. Additionally, QRP can refer to questionable
Speaker 1: research practices. Well played, Google, AI.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 9: I also want to point out that with our thirty
Speaker 9: milliwatts of transmit power, I think mestastic wins that competition.
Speaker 1: I think mestic would be considered q r P. I'm
Speaker 1: good with that. Yeah, there is a QRP CLA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well QRP pp Okay, good cool, okay, Well, thank you
Speaker 1: for that definition, Charlie. That was good. Let's see I'm
Speaker 1: looking through the list here.
Speaker 15: I got something. If you if everyone has uh has.
Speaker 1: Chatted already, I think that well I haven't. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tim's been talking a lot, but he hadn't had he
Speaker 1: hadn't had the floor, Freddie Mack hadn't had the floor,
Speaker 1: and Mike had floor.
Speaker 2: So Kyle.
Speaker 19: Well, I was gonna say, on Friday night, if you
Speaker 19: are into music and also into a little bit of comedy,
Speaker 19: you might want to head over to the Hope Hotel,
Speaker 19: probably around I don't know, eight thirty nine o'clock the
Speaker 19: Superior Missions a missions band is going to play.
Speaker 15: Sorry, I always get that. That's uh, that's word incorrect.
Speaker 19: They are going to play for the last time at
Speaker 19: the Hope Hotel. And I'll just clue you guys in.
Speaker 19: So they'll take songs that you all know and substitute
Speaker 19: Ham radio terms and Ham radio concepts into the those songs.
Speaker 15: And they are hilarious.
Speaker 1: They're the weird Al Yankovic of the Ham radio world.
Speaker 15: Yes so radio filk.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 19: So I just think that they have one song. I'm
Speaker 19: just gonna leave you with this. They have one song,
Speaker 19: you know, wild Thing, the the the song wild Thing
Speaker 19: that has turned into Bow Fine. So come out to
Speaker 19: the Whole Hotel on Friday night. You might even get
Speaker 19: some free pizza because.
Speaker 1: They still do the night. They still do the free
Speaker 1: pizza every night.
Speaker 14: Yeah, but at nine o'clock it's so late that it's oh,
Speaker 14: come on, come on, Frank, I eat dinner at five thirty,
Speaker 14: five thirty, like nine thirty comes around. I'm hungry.
Speaker 27: Yeah yeah, Frank, Frank, then we got your number, man,
Speaker 27: because at the whole hotel right before the spurious missions
Speaker 27: is a Flex radio dinner and on Friday, right.
Speaker 6: And so uh this this Friday night. The President of
Speaker 6: International Amateur Radio Union, Tim Elam is a and talking
Speaker 6: so nice. I'm looking forward to that. That's where all
Speaker 6: be Friday night. So I guess I'm sticking around for
Speaker 6: SPURRYUS emissions.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 19: Uh, Jeff has got a good comment. Be careful getting
Speaker 19: into the Whope Hotel. You don't want to go into
Speaker 19: the air Force base.
Speaker 1: So yes, yeah, I found out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all can't flag pull out like you can on
Speaker 6: the border.
Speaker 1: I can. I can see Freddy Mack driving into that
Speaker 1: Air Force dudeys. He doesn't like to make turns. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't like to make turns when they're when they're required. Man,
Speaker 1: challenging talking while we're all going to get lost. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: oh that's good, all right, cool okay? So uh uh
Speaker 1: tim or Mike, do you guys have anything?
Speaker 5: I got something real quick?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rob, okay, go ahead, Rob.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I just wanted to mention that on Saturday, Saturday morning,
Speaker 11: the full schedule I don't think has been officially published yet.
Speaker 11: Saturday morning, for a couple of hours, I'll be at
Speaker 11: the msat Booth, so folks want to stop by and
Speaker 11: say hello, you'll be able to track me down there.
Speaker 11: And later in the afternoon I'll be hanging out with
Speaker 11: the guys over at Carlson Roof Towers. So those are
Speaker 11: a couple of places I'll be hanging out over the
Speaker 11: course of Saturday.
Speaker 1: Did you get any pictures of the ISS the other night, Rob,
Speaker 1: I did not, Okay, no, no, no, So Randy called
Speaker 1: me on Friday and I was busy so I couldn't
Speaker 1: go out and look at But apparently the ISS did
Speaker 1: a very low pass, just kind of the trajectory. However,
Speaker 1: the trajectory works at like right like nine to twenty
Speaker 1: at night, so right after sundown, and it supposedly was
Speaker 1: was going to be really easy to see because the
Speaker 1: me the sun was of the sun was bouncing off
Speaker 1: of it. So it's one of the lowest passes that
Speaker 1: it's been in the last couple of years or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 11: He said, Yeah, that's what I was going to say,
Speaker 11: like every couple of years, the orbit is such that
Speaker 11: you know the timings right, and the orbit's right and
Speaker 11: the thing looks enormous in the sky.
Speaker 1: Yes, right.
Speaker 4: Didn't do that a couple of times Friday night?
Speaker 5: Or was it?
Speaker 27: Just?
Speaker 1: As far as I know, it was just the one time,
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not hum sure.
Speaker 4: Because I was walking back over to the main house
Speaker 4: and I think it was after midnight. I saw a
Speaker 4: big lit up ball in the sky. I just assumed
Speaker 4: it was an airplane because that's that's that's no moon,
Speaker 4: that's no, it was moving. It was moving pretty quick.
Speaker 1: Could have been the starship Enterprise. You never know, they
Speaker 1: travel back in time a lot. So yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that would yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Suppose I meant to text you, Robert and say, hey,
Speaker 1: are you gonna But I was my wife and I
Speaker 1: had We were at a birthday party for a friend
Speaker 1: that night, so I I was not at home. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you got that, Frank, I should
Speaker 1: have texted you too.
Speaker 14: Yeah, but I would have gone out there and sell
Speaker 14: you it. I'm looking for pictures. I didn't take any
Speaker 14: pictures of dinosaur Valley, man, I just did a bunch
Speaker 14: of vid.
Speaker 11: Did you go in and see these? See the remains?
Speaker 6: Frank?
Speaker 14: I went into the visitor center and they had replications
Speaker 14: of replicas. However, this weekends, due to all the rainway
Speaker 14: gone in Texas, the rivers and creeks were so high
Speaker 14: that it covered Oh the Donald Prince, and the majority
Speaker 14: of the Donal prints you can see and on display
Speaker 14: are in the river beds, so you could.
Speaker 1: Vic says, it's not only the whales, it's also the water.
Speaker 1: Frank got it. Yes, what was that said? So so, Mike,
Speaker 1: you would be impressed with this. So I did a
Speaker 1: quote at more Expo and Kyle got it. He was
Speaker 1: the first one to get it. Bill had one of
Speaker 1: his Bill's in the chat. Bill, you should be in
Speaker 1: the zoom right now. Buddy. Bill had one of his
Speaker 1: spiked lemonades, and I'm like, I looked at it and
Speaker 1: he was a big can, the big can. I was like, Bill,
Speaker 1: you know what that thing? You know what that thing
Speaker 1: will do to you. It'll suck the paint off your
Speaker 1: house and give your whole family a permanent orange aff
Speaker 1: ro and he looked at me weird, and Kyle said,
Speaker 1: spies like us.
Speaker 15: Of the greatest movies ever.
Speaker 1: It is one of the greatest movies.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: All right, okay, anybody have anything else at all? Totally
Speaker 1: open for him here, yes, okay.
Speaker 23: Go where everybody's talking about this new Yasu radio and
Speaker 23: everybody's gonna be piling in the Yaesu booth.
Speaker 5: And I'm excited to see it too.
Speaker 23: I'm also excited to keep my money in my bank account.
Speaker 5: But there's gonna be a vendor.
Speaker 23: There's going to be a vendor there that hasn't been
Speaker 23: there since twenty nineteen, a vendor who is featured prominently
Speaker 23: in all.
Speaker 5: Of my videos.
Speaker 18: Not all of my videos, but a lot of my videos.
Speaker 23: One Canna packed Canna.
Speaker 6: Oh yes, indeed, it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Georgia is actually going to have product there.
Speaker 6: George is having product.
Speaker 1: There that'll sell out in the first fifteen minutes on Friday.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be popular booth for sure.
Speaker 6: Thursday night, yeah, or Thursday night.
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is he going to four days? Is he going to vendor?
Speaker 6: Night Mark? So Smitty myself, George, the three of us
Speaker 6: will I'm sure we're going to be lined up in
Speaker 6: a row in the room. Okay, yeah, so he'll have
Speaker 6: he has product for the booth as well. In building three.
Speaker 1: He sent me two new Pac tenas like a month
Speaker 1: ago and uh and there he makes the winders a
Speaker 1: little bit longer now or sometimes he does, and uh
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I've never actually
Speaker 1: I've never actually made a video about Packed ten. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. Oh I've used it a hundred times,
Speaker 1: I've just never made a video about it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do that at Galveston after after we've
Speaker 1: done it to date.
Speaker 6: Nice good, he was. He was shocked to learn I
Speaker 6: do not own one. That is shocked.
Speaker 1: Fast, I know, they said, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There was there was a there was a New Year's
Speaker 1: Eve live stream we did three or four years ago
Speaker 1: where we actually got on his I don't know why,
Speaker 1: we were on his website of all websites, and he
Speaker 1: actually had stock in there. So literally it was like
Speaker 1: for about ten minutes and gone, and I swear I
Speaker 1: ordered one, and I so like a week or two
Speaker 1: went by now email, I'm like, George, I didn't get
Speaker 1: an order confirmation. He's like, dude, I don't see an
Speaker 1: order for you. And I'm like, well, crap, I don't.
Speaker 1: I had a little bit to drink that night, but anything,
Speaker 1: I had that much to drink that night. So he's like,
Speaker 1: I'll just send you one. So that's that's the first
Speaker 1: pack ten I ever got. But yeah, we we completely
Speaker 1: nuked his website that night. That was fun.
Speaker 6: Five of the six of us from Workbench will be
Speaker 6: in booth thirty eleven thirty twelve. That's where we're hanging out.
Speaker 6: And our Bill Curtis Paul W D nine gCO, the
Speaker 6: voice of Hamburdy work Bench, they are announcer, is going
Speaker 6: to hang out with us and a few a few
Speaker 6: friends of the group as well. So it's going to
Speaker 6: be a big party. And I heard some guy who
Speaker 6: Ham's harder all the time is going to come and
Speaker 6: hang with us too. So there we are night.
Speaker 1: George is there? Sure?
Speaker 11: Did you say thirty twelve?
Speaker 15: Did you guys kick the coffee guy out?
Speaker 6: The coffee guy blind man coffee is he is? He
Speaker 6: can't come out this year, as I understand, Cherry is
Speaker 6: under the weather.
Speaker 8: Got it?
Speaker 5: Gotcha?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 25: I did say that there is going to be a
Speaker 25: coffee vendor after though. I'm not sure who it is though,
Speaker 25: but somebody.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm bringing coffee for sale, but I'm not
Speaker 7: going to have a booth.
Speaker 14: Carlos Sagan, Is your whole twenty pounds accounted for?
Speaker 17: Yet?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 20: I think I have seven still that I again that
Speaker 20: I can still sell.
Speaker 6: I need DCAF please, I don't have any DCAFF right now? Okay,
Speaker 6: we can we can work that out later.
Speaker 4: Did you guys, guys at More, did you try to
Speaker 4: get shiz done coffee?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That guy's there every year. I didn't get any this year,
Speaker 1: but I got some last year. Was pretty good.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's usually three or four coffee vendors like that at
Speaker 1: More and they're all good. I think I think they're
Speaker 1: all good.
Speaker 14: So oh, I have a question.
Speaker 1: All right, Franks, go ahead.
Speaker 14: I am looking for a good, juicy, hand fast question
Speaker 14: to ask all of you on screen, and if the
Speaker 14: chat has a good question, I can ask y'all. Let
Speaker 14: me know. The last one was was very successful was
Speaker 14: what is the mistake you learned the most from in
Speaker 14: Amazon Radio? And I want to get the same thought
Speaker 14: provoking question. It's just I my brain's gone. Man, I
Speaker 14: need help from the the the community here.
Speaker 4: I thought I thought you were going to ask if
Speaker 4: the Smoking Ape ever paid back big Gym for the
Speaker 4: work chop sandwich two years ago.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. M h that was that one
Speaker 1: you had it? Hamcsion was good, Frank, Oh.
Speaker 14: I know, and it was amazing. And I need y'all's
Speaker 14: help to keep up the same intellectual momentum. Huh momentum.
Speaker 1: Yes, good.
Speaker 5: So I have a regret story. I'll tell Okay, all right,
Speaker 5: go don't have a.
Speaker 25: Variable voltage power supply if you have little kids.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so I.
Speaker 1: Think I can see where this is going, but go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Was smoking volved very much. So I'm so sorry.
Speaker 25: I Uh, I had a little MFJ power supply. I immediately
Speaker 25: got rid of that power supply, traded it or something
Speaker 25: like that. And uh, I'm gonna I'm I just walked
Speaker 25: in the bedroom after running ft eight and all of
Speaker 25: a sudden, I hear this squealing and I come out
Speaker 25: around this corner right here, and this whole shack, well,
Speaker 25: shack office, whatever you gonna call it, is full of smoked.
Speaker 25: My screen on my radio. I had a ya sue
Speaker 25: seven ten at the time. Actually, I'd only had it
Speaker 25: for maybe a month or two, had had screams, going
Speaker 25: nuts and everything like that. Immediately turn it off, take
Speaker 25: the thing outside. It's like burning hot and uh bad,
Speaker 25: set it down all this and uh anyway, I got fortunate.
Speaker 25: I put in a claim with Yasu and they covered it.
Speaker 1: Uh it all really nice.
Speaker 5: I shipped it off.
Speaker 6: But but you're making a live recorded confession now.
Speaker 11: There is I think that the fuse would pop on
Speaker 11: that thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you would, you would think.
Speaker 1: I think I would think.
Speaker 25: I think that's why they did cover it, just because
Speaker 25: it should have It should have killed itself.
Speaker 4: But the fuse popping. Can you guys see that there?
Speaker 4: That's my that's my z bit X and pieces.
Speaker 1: That's a brand new radio.
Speaker 6: Tim, would you do to that in pieces and fuse?
Speaker 4: No views?
Speaker 6: No, there is no fues in it.
Speaker 19: There is no how was this going to mention that too?
Speaker 17: By the way, I'm glad Tim brought that up real quick.
Speaker 15: The z b X, if you haven't.
Speaker 17: Heard, it's a all band, all mode radio that is
Speaker 17: at him mentioned probably going to be one hundred and
Speaker 17: sixty nine dollars instead of the two hundred.
Speaker 1: With shipping nice.
Speaker 15: Because he's bringing up.
Speaker 17: He'll probably be bringing him over I can't promise, but
Speaker 17: they usually do. They bring up over all their year,
Speaker 17: So he's probably gonna probably be the best place to
Speaker 17: buy it if you're gonna buy it, because.
Speaker 1: I'm planning on getting one there. I got his s
Speaker 1: bid X two years ago and I was happy with that,
Speaker 1: So I'm planning on getting this new way.
Speaker 4: I've had fun with it. Uh but but this happened
Speaker 4: literally right before I was getting ready to go film
Speaker 4: a video and start filming, Vince had stolen I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean Vince had put out a bunch of videos,
Speaker 4: but but his his roll c W.
Speaker 8: So you know.
Speaker 6: I did one for FT eight in side band.
Speaker 4: Well, you obviously didn't want to put one in there
Speaker 4: for battery.
Speaker 6: Uh no, you're right, I didn't orientation.
Speaker 4: But and actually and not knocking I do. I do
Speaker 4: want to point this out though, and this isn't knocking
Speaker 4: the company. So this is the uh play it. Well,
Speaker 4: I've changed my plate, but there's there's pluses and minuses
Speaker 4: in there, and uh, the black wire obviously is the
Speaker 4: negative side of the battery and the loops back around
Speaker 4: and comes around, goes out the pigtail. This plastic frame
Speaker 4: has also has pluses and minuses on it, and they
Speaker 4: do not line up with a wiring. And that's what
Speaker 4: I looked at when I went to just slap a
Speaker 4: battery in there really quick. Uh So, if you do
Speaker 4: have one of those, make sure you the wiring, double
Speaker 4: check the wiring. I mean, I'm I've reached out to him.
Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes. I'm not upset upset if
Speaker 4: it If it's just a swapping of the RF deck
Speaker 4: or whatever, however they want to help me, you know,
Speaker 4: or not, We'll just we'll roll with it and see
Speaker 4: what happens.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, sounds good.
Speaker 18: That's pretty much how I blew up my first rack
Speaker 18: whiz block meantastic node. If the connector fits, I didn't
Speaker 18: mean the polarity is right, check.
Speaker 1: That well, if you haven't never blown something up, you're
Speaker 1: probably never real ham.
Speaker 5: Positive.
Speaker 6: And it wants to see like eight volts, Well it's
Speaker 6: to see, but six and nine volts it draws half
Speaker 6: an amp uron idle. So it's a hungry radio. But
Speaker 6: it's driving two Raspberry Pie processors and a big, nice,
Speaker 6: big touch screen. Right, So for what it is, it
Speaker 6: does a lot of good stuff. I've had a lot
Speaker 6: of fun with mine. I'm debating bringing it or not
Speaker 6: to ham mentioned because it's a hard screen to read
Speaker 6: in the outdoors, and that's the.
Speaker 5: One center center pin is positive.
Speaker 6: Center, it's center positive. Yes, So I think what Tim
Speaker 6: is describing, and I had to look up mine because
Speaker 6: I had mine in my hand a minute ago. What
Speaker 6: Tim is describing. You can see here the red and
Speaker 6: black wire on mine. In Tim's case, the red and
Speaker 6: black wire were reversed by the sound of it, which
Speaker 6: really surprises me because they're supposed to test every radio
Speaker 6: it could be they tested it with an external supply.
Speaker 4: So the in all fairness, the the pluses and minus
Speaker 4: is line up with the wiring that's on the three
Speaker 4: D printed case plate. It was what what is in
Speaker 4: side the frame itself? And based on this, I'm assuming
Speaker 4: they got frames and put the pigtails on themselves.
Speaker 6: Correct, that's part of.
Speaker 4: Their manufacturing process because there's there's there's a protective coating
Speaker 4: over the solder joints on there. So, like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not upset about it.
Speaker 2: Well, just you seem a little upset about it.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not, but.
Speaker 2: Vince's point.
Speaker 4: I mean, here's a here's a card, right with all
Speaker 4: these checks that they did, and I don't think that
Speaker 4: quality control check was on there.
Speaker 2: But I'm just.
Speaker 4: Saying, but if you do have one of those radios,
Speaker 4: make sure you double check that because there is no
Speaker 4: in line. Well, I don't know if I can get
Speaker 4: detailed enough. But the trace blew the trace off the board.
Speaker 4: There's a nice clean cut in it. So I don't
Speaker 4: know if that was by design to as its fault
Speaker 4: protection or.
Speaker 6: A friend of mine, Smitty, commented on the zibit ax
Speaker 6: and he says, there's a couple of diodes that provide
Speaker 6: reverse polarity protection, but there's no fuse. But the diodes
Speaker 6: are at the opposite end of the board from where
Speaker 6: the power plug is, and so that effectively makes the
Speaker 6: trace the fuse. You have now proven this to be true.
Speaker 4: Yes, So can this be the can this be the
Speaker 4: gray Man Poda conundrum?
Speaker 5: Could be?
Speaker 1: I like that, I like that you got to have
Speaker 1: one bunch of TIMPs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do, well, you know, and I was wondering
Speaker 4: if they had some some diodes in there to protect
Speaker 4: that but because I was looking at the schematic and
Speaker 4: I was a little confused. As a professional schematic reader,
Speaker 4: I was, I was a little confused.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there are a couple of dietes in there
Speaker 6: for reverse polarity protection.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jason, Yeah, I was gonna. Has Paul started yet.
Speaker 14: He's getting close or has started already, But yeah, I
Speaker 14: already dropped a link into his stream coming up once
Speaker 14: we are.
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw him, and yeah, he dropped out,
Speaker 1: and I thought I thought he said he was going
Speaker 1: to come back, but he might be running on his
Speaker 1: own thing. Now, okay, well let's uh, let's let's start
Speaker 1: to wrap this up. I'm going to turn. Uh let's see,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn Uh no, I'm not what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do here?
Speaker 8: Ye?
Speaker 1: He is show show self view, and I'm gonna switch
Speaker 1: over to this screen right Yeah, I've got too many
Speaker 1: scenes in here. Here we go switch over that screen
Speaker 1: right there. So, guys, I appreciate everyone who joined us tonight,
Speaker 1: especially those of you who've not been here before. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the to the madness. And I do appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys coming on here and telling us all about the
Speaker 1: Oh great, now, K five y v y wants to
Speaker 1: join at the last minute, right as we're shutting down.
Speaker 1: That's good timing, Joe Brett. I mean, get you're you're
Speaker 1: a rock star there, buddy, what's going on?
Speaker 26: I don't know that. I turn on the YouTube and
Speaker 26: I'm like, oh, ship's Jason.
Speaker 2: Man, my bad, I'm sorry, cuse.
Speaker 1: Say at the clubhouse.
Speaker 26: But yeah, well, I mean thirty seconds, I'm like, man,
Speaker 26: all this talk y'all talking radios and stuff. It's like
Speaker 26: I thought I was talking to him, mentioning you're talking
Speaker 26: about broken new radios.
Speaker 1: Well we got we we we were going for almost
Speaker 1: two hours. Man, we talked to him mention we talked
Speaker 1: four days in May.
Speaker 27: Uh you know onlike clubhouse, Man, we talked the clubhouse,
Speaker 27: unlike the K five y V watching.
Speaker 26: I was actually using a little camera today and I
Speaker 26: made a video and wow, I'm processing.
Speaker 1: So that's great.
Speaker 2: That's how about that.
Speaker 19: I'm impressed that Joe Brett's got hair.
Speaker 14: How about that?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, day, I got a fundraiser. See who wants
Speaker 2: to shave the head at uh day?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, that's totally.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I've been three twenty.
Speaker 1: For twenty ye.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So well, like I said, no, I'm not, I'm not,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally we're gonna wrap it up now that
Speaker 1: you joined us. So uh but no we uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Frank popped that link in there again. Frank, So prep
Speaker 1: Pam Paul, who was on with this earlier. He does
Speaker 1: a live stream after me on Sundays. He started that
Speaker 1: not too long ago. So y'all go check him out.
Speaker 1: Last time we shared his link, he said that was
Speaker 1: a record number of people watching him. So and I
Speaker 1: love that. I love it. I love it, and people
Speaker 1: do this, we will say, wow, we got what do
Speaker 1: we do? We got Carlos over a certain number of
Speaker 1: subs last time, and we got Digital Rancher over certain
Speaker 1: no was it you, Rob, wouldn't it you?
Speaker 4: No, you got over ten thousand subscribers.
Speaker 1: And we got him over ten thousand, and we got
Speaker 1: Carlos over like twenty five hundred or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love I love doing that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So it's fun. That's that's how I have fun. But
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing everybody on. Here's okay, So here's
Speaker 1: a question that I want to leave you guys with.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna bring this up earlier, and we
Speaker 1: just kind of got sidetracked. I am driving to Dayton.
Speaker 1: We're gonna leave here Tuesday morning. We're gonna drive out
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis and we're gonna spend the night there,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna drive in the rest of the
Speaker 1: way on on Wednesday, be there early afternoon sometime on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet. Anybody who's driving on Tuesday or Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Do y'all want to set up like a h F
Speaker 1: talking frequency, like an eight well, not a talk Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking seventeen meters. I was thinking seventeen meters
Speaker 1: something that's you know, not gonna be too hard to
Speaker 1: find a space. So, but but those of you driving
Speaker 1: in those well, because ten meters is kind of iffy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, on forty you'll get good continental coverage for people
Speaker 6: driving in from all over.
Speaker 1: Forty might not be too bad. Yeah, for he might think,
Speaker 1: I think forty might Yeah, forty might not be too bad.
Speaker 1: So I might think on that and put something in
Speaker 1: on Twitter or on uh Instagram or something in the
Speaker 1: next couple of days. I will say this for sure,
Speaker 1: we will be monitoring all Star on the way in
Speaker 1: So those of you with All Star join four three
Speaker 1: one three six. My All Star Club server Club cloud
Speaker 1: server is what I'm trying to say, Hub all Star
Speaker 1: Hub Cloud server is what I'm trying to say. Hug
Speaker 1: Club is Hub and cloud put together. So my All
Speaker 1: Star Club ser see it. Charlie, thanks for joining, buddy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all Star four three one three six. And I'd like
Speaker 1: to do some HF on the way in, so I
Speaker 1: might Yeah, forty might be a good one. Forty might
Speaker 1: be a good thing to look at. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: might try try that some as well. So thank once again,
Speaker 1: thank you to everybody who joined tonight. If you are
Speaker 1: going to attend four days in may be sure to
Speaker 1: check these guys out. I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be there during the day, but
Speaker 1: I will absolutely be there for vendor night because that's
Speaker 1: the that's the part that I like. So but check out,
Speaker 1: check out all that stuff. Hope to see you guys
Speaker 1: in Okay n a yo was driving down Wednesday in
Speaker 1: the evening on Wednesday, Okay, Well we won't. We'll be
Speaker 1: there by the evening time, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: we'll be monitoring we might be monitoring.
Speaker 4: So but that's gone temperature on a cooler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be monitoring how much whiskey's in
Speaker 1: my glass. So but yeah, so so looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing everybody next weekend. Like I said, we'll be there
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. I'll probably gonna do a live stream from
Speaker 1: the camp site. Maybe Wednesday night, I don't know yet,
Speaker 1: Maybe Thursday night, I'm not sure yet. Well at some
Speaker 1: point in time I will, but but that's where we'll
Speaker 1: be going. So seventy three to all, looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing everybody. Everyone drives safe, fly safe, have a safe
Speaker 1: flight out and back if you're if you're going that route,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's gonna be a fun time. So hopefully
Speaker 1: the weather holds. It looks like Joshua was looking at
Speaker 1: the weather and he's like, there's a slight chance on
Speaker 1: Friday morning of rain, but the rest of the time
Speaker 1: looks great. So that the rain holds off. It is Ohio,
Speaker 1: but you.
Speaker 5: Never know, so pon just to be safe, I carry one.
Speaker 1: With me everywhere I go, so no problem. So seventy
Speaker 1: three guys, thanks for joining tonight, y'all go check out
Speaker 1: prep Pam Paul's stream that's going right now. Frank dropped
Speaker 1: that in there once more, and we'll catch you in
Speaker 1: a few days. And dating seventy three