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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast Special Edition five Minutes of Fire. We're

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here talking about the lyrics of We Didn't Start the

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Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes at

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a time, which is about to link the song, so

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it works out kind of nicely. So please join us

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as we dive into some new lyrics today.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, so here are the topics that we're

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going to be covering today.

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Speaker 1: The Rosenbergs, h Bomb, Sugar Ray. So, Jason, do you

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know who the Rosenbergs are? No? I did not. You

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genuinely don't, right, I don't tell Okay, Well, all right,

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So Julius and Ethel are the Rosenbergs. They were members

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of the Communist USA Party Young Communists, if you will.

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They actually met at a Communist convention together. But then

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you know, the war happened and Julius ended up joining

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the Army Signal Corps, who had access to all of

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information about radar and sonar and other stuff like that.

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Then Ethel's brother, guy named David Greenglass, he actually worked

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on the Manhattan Project with the Oppenheimer and developing the

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atomic bomb. Well in nineteen fifty David green Glass was

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arrested for espionage, okay, because it turns out that Julius

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had recruited Ethel's brother to sell them secrets on the

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A bomb so that the Soviets could have it. Ultimately,

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they were accused and charged with espionage, including charges of

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giving many top secret pieces of information to the Soviets,

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and it's believed that probably the Soviets developed their nuclear

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weapons as fast as they did because of the secrets

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that Julius and Ethel had a hand in bringing to them.

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March of nineteen fifty one, they get charged. Later that month,

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they are convicted of espionage, and they ultimately become the

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first American civilians to be executed for espionage, and the

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first ones to be executed for espionage during peacetime as well.

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So for decades after their execution, the sons of the

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Rosenbergs maintained that they were innocent, they were victims of

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the Cold War paranoia. But ultimately later when top secret

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documents were opened, it was very clear that they had

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sold a great many documents to the Soviets. They even

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were offered at the time of their conviction, they said,

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we will spare your lives if you admit that you're

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guilty and tell us the names of the other spies

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that are involved. And they said no. So then in

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June nineteen fifty three, first one to be executed was

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Julius and he died with first shock. The second one

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was Ethel and after her first shock, the doctor said, nope,

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her heart's still beating, so they shocked her again, and

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then they shocked her again.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Apparently by the last one smoke was rising from her helmet.

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Speaker 2: Hid it again.

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Speaker 1: So there's the atomic bomb. What can you tell me

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about the H bomb?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, the hydrogen bomb is a thermonuclear weapon power

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generated by nuclear fission of hydrogen isotopes. It creates a

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blast that can destroy structures within several miles, creates a

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giant white ball that can cause blindness, and of course

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the intense fireball that kills everybody in sight. Hydrogen bombs

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are thousands of times more powerful than atomic bombs. Edward

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Teller and other US scientists tested the H bomb on

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the inn wet Tack Atoll November one, nineteen fifty two.

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They actually built the bomb on this little atoll, this

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little island out in the middle of South Pacific. Then

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it was like, Okay, everybody move out, We're going to

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set this thing off. And when they did it, it

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destroyed everything.

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Speaker 1: Was Indiana Jones there.

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Speaker 2: Luckily there was a refrigerator or nearby. So the mushroom cloud,

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the fireball twenty five miles high. None of the structures survived,

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just a giant hole in the earth. Became a source

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of power for the United States in the fifties for sure.

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D what can you tell us about Sugar Ray.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not Sugary Lenar. This is, however, about Sugar

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Ray Robinson, who was the middleweight champion during this time

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in history, considered at the time pound four pound the

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best boxer that had ever existed. In June of nineteen

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forty seven, he was scheduled to defend his title for

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the first time against a guy named Jimmy Doyle. But

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then he had a dream that he killed Doyle and

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he said, I don't want to fight him, tried to

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back out of the fight. A priest and a minister

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convinced him to fight, and his dream came true. On

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June twenty fifth, nineteen forty seven, after a decisive knockout

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in the eighth round, Doyle was unconscious and later that

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night died in the hospital. Oh way, but I remember him.

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This is kind of interesting. I used to watch Car

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fifty four Where Are You? One of the only episodes

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that I can actually remember had Sugar Ray Robinson in.

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It was a barber worked there and he was like

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the nicest barber in the world, but he would go

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and box, and his wife didn't like the fact that

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he was boxing, and so she tried to make a

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trick to get him to stop boxing. So they had

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Sugar Ray Robinson dress up as this really old man

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and then whip this guy's butt. What And then it

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turns out that the boxing was the way he had

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the release, So he turned from this nice barber into

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this really mean barber because he had no release in

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boxing because he had quit because he was so upset

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that he had been beaten by this old man. And

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then it turns out, oh no, just go back to boxing.

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That was, you know, the best boxer in the world.

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He also appeared in Paper Lion Mission, An Impossible Episode,

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Mod Squad episode, Fantasy Island episode, and his last appearance

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is nineteen eighty three in The Fall Guy.

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Speaker 2: The fall guy.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you gotta always bring it back to the eighties.

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Speaker 2: If you can't, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay guys. That does it for today's episode. Join us

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next time for five minutes of fire