WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.240 Trail saw Lake in the midst of a bit of 2 00:00:02.279 --> 00:00:06.839 a road heavy portion of this schedule in Nashville last week, 3 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:09.240 but they will be home coming up on Saturday against 4 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:12.759 Toronto for a seven to thirty kick. It is cold today, 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.119 but Saturday looks all right, so maybe Saturday night will 6 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:18.000 get a little luck with the weather and time. 7 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:20.039 Now for our well, it's becoming a. 8 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:23.120 Very regular conversation with head coach over al saalt Lake. 9 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:27.239 Pablo mash JOINNY on a Thursday afternoon. Bablo, Happy Thursday, sir. 10 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.320 How are you happy Thursdays? 11 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:31.440 Fen's doing great, Bud, appreciate the time. 12 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:36.320 So let's look back Nashville Nashville two to one final 13 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:38.920 score looked good for a little bit. So before I 14 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:41.920 get into some specific questions I have for you, now 15 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:43.960 that you've had a chance to digest the loss and 16 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:45.520 go back and look at the tape, would you like 17 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:46.759 and what would you not like? 18 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.000 Pablo, Yeah, I think there is a lot of good 19 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:53.240 stuff again, building off that La Galaxy game. I thought, 20 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:55.920 you know, going on the road, Nashville is in a 21 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:59.159 good run of form, you know, I think we played 22 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:03.079 a really really well one to one into I think 23 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:05.000 it was a seventy fifth minute where we scored a 24 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:10.519 goal and it was called off sides after var so 25 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.040 again the referee didn't call it in real time and 26 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:16.239 took it back, So now we're two to one. And 27 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:18.439 then I think in the eighty eighth minute it was 28 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:24.319 we gave Way just a very soft PK and you know, 29 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:27.120 it ended up determining our fate in that game, which 30 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.359 was really difficult to kind of stomach given the way 31 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.200 that the guys played. And I think it's really important 32 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:37.920 for our group, Spence, and really any team is putting 33 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.439 together two good performances that get two really good results. Right, 34 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:43.879 so three points are in this case, you know, three 35 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:45.879 points at home and one on the road. We take 36 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.200 that and we can continue building. Where I felt like 37 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.000 this week we had to go back and talk about, 38 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:54.760 you know, very fundamental aspects of the game and and 39 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:57.680 and you know how you have to walk gingerly in 40 00:01:57.719 --> 00:01:59.400 the box when your opponents have the ball in there, 41 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:01.519 and you can't be clumsy, you got to move your feet, 42 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.840 so a little step back, but I think overall it 43 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.759 was a really good performance that was marred by some 44 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:11.159 you know, non calls. You know, there could have been 45 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.759 a red card and that goal that they called back 46 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:16.759 on bar and then our penalty kick. So definitely defined 47 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.240 by a couple of moments in the games that you know, 48 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:20.800 sealed our fate and that in that. 49 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.599 Game, Tom gets gets the goal in the twelfth and 50 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:26.879 Diego gets that assist. So take us through what you 51 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.280 what'd you like about that build up and you know, 52 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.800 the the the redeeming thought of of Dom being able 53 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:34.319 to find the back of the net and another assist 54 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:34.879 for Diego. 55 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.400 Yeah, no, you know again, that's that's there's so many 56 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:41.719 moments where you know, we saw that they wanted to 57 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:43.759 get pressure on the ball and we had a we 58 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:45.520 had a break through our we had to get through 59 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.639 our midfield to get to our attacking midfielders, and that 60 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:52.000 play was was textbook. Dio got on the ball, took 61 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:54.120 a good look at goal. Dom was there to clean 62 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:56.599 it up and and one of the things that we've 63 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:58.520 been working with Dom is in that final third area 64 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.479 is making sure he's positioning is such that it's not 65 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.719 too wide where we're actually threatening from that wide position. 66 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:06.520 So kudos for him for really tightening that up and 67 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:09.000 being in a great position. And and again Joe getting 68 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.240 on the ball, and I think if we get Gioke 69 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:14.199 on the ball in the attacking third and we got 70 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:17.039 guys like Luna and dom and and Ari or his SEUs, 71 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:19.319 you know, crash in the box, we're gonna we're going 72 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.120 to score goals and we're going to you know, create 73 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.319 a lot of good opportunities. So it was a really 74 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:26.039 good play that culminated into a really good goal. 75 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.400 Okay, the the goal that was called back. The off sides. 76 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:33.680 To walk us through that a little bit, and I 77 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:37.240 felt bad for Jesus because he was so excited, you know, 78 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.240 and it was it was a great ball, It was 79 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.879 a great finish. And I didn't even uh, you know, 80 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:44.039 watching it on TV in real time, I didn't even 81 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:47.439 consider that that could have been an offside penalty. Uh 82 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.039 So your your thoughts in the moment, and you went 83 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:51.879 back and watched it, What do you make about that 84 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:52.479 all went down? 85 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:56.199 Yeah, you know, it's it's it's it's really interesting because 86 00:03:56.240 --> 00:04:00.400 the whole purpose of v A r. Bar Is is 87 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:04.879 to nig is to take back a play that was 88 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:08.800 egregiously miscalled. And what's interesting with the off side is 89 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.479 we don't have the technology in var in our league 90 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.120 that has these lines that go across the field that 91 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:17.360 they use to validate whether or not given the angle 92 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:19.839 of the camera and all these things could be misleading, 93 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.879 and so the fact that the line's been on the 94 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:24.680 ball side didn't raise his flag. And then you go 95 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:27.319 back and watch it and you're, you know, sometimes you 96 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.480 watch it with the understanding that it was like they 97 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.279 called it off side, so you're looking at it from 98 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.240 his off side, but it was for me, it's still 99 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.199 you know, it's it's not what var is meant to be, 100 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:40.279 especially for offside call where there's there's no objectivity other 101 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.639 than using a camera that's at a slant, and because 102 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.279 we don't use those lines that make it objective. So 103 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:50.079 that was really the disappointing part. But again, a really 104 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:53.399 good play where a mecha finds Diego, Diego finds Diego, 105 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:56.959 Diego releases Dom, and Dom woods in across behind the 106 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:58.959 defense with his seu's finishing. I mean, it was like 107 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.879 it was, you know, training ground type type play that 108 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.759 that you know was eventually nullified. So it was a 109 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.560 bit disappointing, but again, we create more of those actions. 110 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:11.839 We're going to create more of those goals, all. 111 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:13.639 Right, now, over to the PK because it looked like 112 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.120 you guys were going to escape with one at least, 113 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.399 you know, instead of walking away with three. And look, 114 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.399 you know, in every sport, a veteran player knows the 115 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.560 way to massage the game to get calls in his 116 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.800 favor or to get in the head of a young player, 117 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:32.040 and that Luk Tah kid is a really, really good player. 118 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.759 But from my vantage point, it felt like he knew. 119 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:37.639 I think it was Nelson was kind of on his 120 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:42.120 back and he initiates the contact and then just goes 121 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.319 down in the most soccer dive annoying way of all time. 122 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.480 That's what I saw. You tell me what you saw. 123 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:51.800 No, I think you're right. I was angry at the call, 124 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:56.040 but I was also angry at his cleverness, right, Like, 125 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.399 I was angry at both of those things in one moment, 126 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:03.480 because again it was super soft. But what but the thing, 127 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:05.800 what you know, so just going back and looking at 128 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.600 the play, and my conversation with the pivots is when 129 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.000 you're recovering, so the balls, the balls on the left 130 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.160 side of the box before it gets crossed, and you know, 131 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.680 it's the old Wayne Gretzky skate to where the puck 132 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.199 is going. Don't skate to where the puck's at Like 133 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.279 it's the same. You can use that for recovering pivots 134 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:25.680 when you're when you're going from midfield to now into 135 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:28.920 your box to recover is what does the what is 136 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:32.120 the play saying where's the danger area? Where's the ball 137 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:33.839 going to eventually go? Because that's where I want to 138 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:35.279 That's where I want to run to. So that was 139 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.360 the first problem, is his recovery wasn't in a position 140 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.519 that was advantageous for us defensively. The second part was 141 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.439 because he wasn't proactive in his recovery. Then it's a 142 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.120 reactionary it goes over his head and now he's just 143 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:50.920 chasing the ball without really seeing the sight of the player. 144 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.839 And then, like you said, Mouktar just does what veterans 145 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.720 do and he realizes that he's coming full speed, and 146 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.959 so he just gets in the way of Nelson's row, 147 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.279 which is you know, it's it's cheap, but it's smart, 148 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.680 you know, and and and that's the type of clever 149 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.800 cleverness that that wins you games or wins you moments 150 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.560 that help you in games. And so that you know 151 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:16.560 it was frustrating, but but again it's a good learning 152 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.120 moment and if if that happens again, then then then 153 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:21.399 we have some big problems. But I think for for 154 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.079 all of our pivots who uh you know, they're they're 155 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.680 they're learning, they're getting it, and we talk about it, 156 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:29.560 we go through it on training field. So it's I 157 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:31.720 think it's gonna be one of those moments that that 158 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:34.079 we'll learn from and and won't happen again. 159 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.680 You know, I'm stretching my memory, Poplo, I'm getting a 160 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.040 little bit older, but I seem to remember a midfielder 161 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.720 with a little bite who played for the Colorado Rapids, 162 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:45.000 who may or may not have at times enjoyed executing 163 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:49.079 some shall we say, dark arts here or there? Is 164 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:50.839 there a part of you that tips the cap to 165 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.279 Mouktar and says well done, sir. 166 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.279 Yes, absolutely, That's why I said I was angry with 167 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:00.439 this cleverness because it's it's genius and in and again, 168 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:03.240 and then that's the thing that you know that that's 169 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.360 what experience will bring you the same thing in the 170 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.920 other box, right with with guys that have been around, 171 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.040 they know like the angle of attacking the ball. So 172 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.639 it's not just to recover the ball. That's that's just 173 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.199 playing the game that's in front of you. But there's 174 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.720 a game that's happening within the game. And if you 175 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.279 can get into that, if you get into that level, 176 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.879 now you're multi dimensional and that's where you you know, 177 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:26.199 you can you can really man, you know, you dictate 178 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.680 what the referee calls, you know how to get under 179 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:32.559 people's skin, and there's another game that's going on and so, uh, 180 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.759 you know, fair play to Mutar and for us, definitely 181 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:36.480 a learning moment. 182 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.480 So as far as the learning moment goes, like it's 183 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:43.519 hard to even be mad at Nelson, right because like, 184 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:45.320 what what's the lesson? 185 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:45.799 Do? 186 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:46.639 You just let him know? 187 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:49.000 Like, hey, when you're around a savvy vet, you've got 188 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:50.759 to be a little frosty, like what what are the 189 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:53.200 teaching what are the teaching talking points? 190 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:54.159 After something like that? 191 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.759 Babla, Yeah, no, that's a great point. So again, it's 192 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:03.320 it's that moment was happened because his actions were reactionary. 193 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:06.000 In other words, if he was recovering to a spot, 194 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:07.840 so the ball gets played out to the left side 195 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.799 right and as the weak side pivot, so the weak 196 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.279 side sense for midfielder, You've got to get to a 197 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.759 spot defensively that covers the back line. So that's the 198 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.639 first part. That's really the teaching moment. So again, don't 199 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.159 you know where the ball is? You know what's happening 200 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:25.639 over there. After two seconds you glanced there. Now you're 201 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:28.840 spending the rest of your time recovering to a position 202 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.799 where you identify Muktar. Because Mouktar was floating in between 203 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:34.639 the lines, right, There wasn't a center back with him. 204 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:36.440 He was just kind of floating between them. So as 205 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:40.200 a pivot, I'm recovering to Muktar. That's my point of reference. Right, 206 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.120 that's the danger guy in this moment that can affect 207 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.519 our defense. Right. So that's really the teaching moment. And 208 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:51.399 then the other teaching moment is you don't try to 209 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.039 win the ball in your penalty box. And I know 210 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.360 that sounds counterintuitive, but you don't make tackles in your 211 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.159 penalty box. What you're doing is you're literally playing and 212 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:05.720 like cop defending, where you're moving your feet, you're using 213 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.279 your arms in your hands to keep the player moving 214 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:10.360 away from the box or to pass the ball to 215 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:13.480 another player that's outside the box. But anytime you go 216 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:17.279 into challenge like to win a ball, you're putting yourself 217 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.960 at the mercy of the referees discretion, right, and then 218 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:23.519 all the dark arts from your opponent. So there's so 219 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:25.240 many variables that come into play when you try to 220 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:27.679 win the ball. Box, So we talk about moving our 221 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.679 feet blocking the ball. You can block the ball, you 222 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:32.639 can shuveer them out, but you just don't want to 223 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:33.759 make tackles in the box. 224 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:38.799 M interesting before we get to the players that are 225 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:40.799 not on your roster, because we have to get there 226 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:41.279 at the moment. 227 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:43.559 Was Forrester unavailable? 228 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:43.960 Was it? 229 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.519 Was he hurt when you guys went to Nashville. 230 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:50.840 No, no, again, I think you know we've we've you know, 231 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.240 he had a really good run of games and we 232 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.480 weren't able to you know, produce enough attacking output. You know. 233 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:00.879 So my conversation with him is we we just got 234 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:02.679 to give other guys a try, Like we just got 235 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:07.639 to figure out between Ari between Forrester hashus, who who's 236 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:12.759 the guy that's going to get be the most compatible 237 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.279 with the players that we currently have. But also, you know, 238 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.960 either creating a goal scoring opportunity or scoring himself. And 239 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:21.759 so it was just basically coaches' decision as far as 240 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.039 why Forster wasn't on the roster, so. 241 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.080 He went with Ari to start in Brea as the sub. 242 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:29.519 Take us into that mentality and how do you analyze 243 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:30.960 the way those two handle themselves. 244 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.840 Yeah, no, I think again, I think Ari again. My 245 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:38.320 expectations for Ari's is what he's been doing, right if 246 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.559 you know given you know his this is his first 247 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:45.759 professional season, right, he played a few games in Australia, 248 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.639 came over. So like, my expectation is that he's not 249 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.159 going to come out of the gates and in his 250 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:54.279 career in our league that's very difficult, and he gets 251 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:56.679 more and more difficult every year. But he's going to 252 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.279 be just banging goals left and right, like that's that's unrealistic, right. 253 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.840 But his runs are really really good, his hold the 254 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.240 plays getting better with every game. He had a really 255 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:09.039 good chance in the first half that just missed the post. 256 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.159 So he's doing everything from at least my expectations. And 257 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.360 so then the thought was his sus is a very 258 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:18.799 technical guy. He's clever with his runs. Let's you know, 259 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.360 I think already went sixty five sixty minutes. Let's let's 260 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.720 give hasus a run here to see if we can't 261 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:27.360 get a hold of the ball. Because again, what Juzu's 262 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:29.399 does is he does a really good job of bringing 263 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:32.759 teammates into the game because he's technical, he reads the game. 264 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.399 And so that was that was the thought with that decision. 265 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:38.080 Well, I wanted to ask you this because I asked 266 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.960 Herd this earlier when he joined us. This week two 267 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.559 part question, are you a fan? This is the wrong 268 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:45.320 week for me to ask you this, but are you 269 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:50.720 a fan of VAR? And if you are not, what 270 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:53.559 are some changes you think they could make to the 271 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.600 way that this system has kind of manifested itself to 272 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:57.960 maybe improve on the product. 273 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:06.120 You know, to be honest, I think it was better 274 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.840 before VAR. And I'll say that because you have the 275 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.159 same feelings that you do now, right, but now there's 276 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.639 this new technology, but it leaves both coaches feeling the 277 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:19.919 same way that you did before there was this technology. Right, 278 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.279 So it's like there's this review thing, but you know, 279 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.039 like that for example that the red card review that 280 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:29.080 was you know, rarely does it go to VAR if 281 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.399 there's a red card where it's not a red card. 282 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.240 And they came back and gave him a yellow card, 283 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.720 And so I'm like, wait a second, if you're a 284 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:39.120 fourth official, is saying that that was an egregious file, 285 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.000 that was a red card, well then give them a 286 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.240 red card. But to go back and review it and 287 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:47.120 not give a red card for that, I'm thinking, what's 288 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.679 this whole process for? Like it? You know? And and again, 289 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.559 like the red card we we had against Dari when 290 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.519 we played Dallas, it's the same thing. If you slow 291 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:59.200 things down at the micro second, it looks a lot 292 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.039 different than the and the actions that actually existed in 293 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:04.879 real time. So I guess to answer your question, I'd 294 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:08.559 like to because because both coaches, both teams, all fans, 295 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:10.879 they're going to feel the same way after a VAAR call. 296 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.879 And I'm saying, can you capture the moment in real time, 297 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.279 the feeling of the game and what that was, And 298 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.960 you're still going to be wrong sometimes, but at least 299 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:23.960 you caught it in real time, and it puts a 300 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.639 notice now on referees to be a little bit more, 301 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:29.960 you know, on top of the game, versus having somebody 302 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.799 to fall back to to then give to them make 303 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.200 a call that that was reviewed in macro seconds and 304 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.200 maybe not the best angles as well, So I think 305 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.039 I'm a fan of not having it. 306 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:45.759 I know it's been a little bit of a rough start, 307 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.240 you know, through eight get three eight matches, But I 308 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.480 wanted to ask you a macro question about these eight games. 309 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.320 So you guys have analyzed and Kurt walked us through 310 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.960 some numbers. Obviously Kurt's very analytically driven through eight games. 311 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.399 What are you guys doing well? 312 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:01.159 Pablo? What you what do you like that you're seeing 313 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:01.559 so far? 314 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.759 Well? Again, I think between the boxes we're doing we're 315 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.559 doing we're doing well. In other words, the stats that 316 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:14.559 aren't significant to results, I know. So like, our ability 317 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:16.519 to control the game with the ball has been really good, 318 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.559 both home and away. Defending between the boxes has has 319 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:24.519 improved drastically in the last four games, so that parts 320 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:27.320 really well. So just going over the game, uh, you know, 321 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.720 six of the nine chances that that Nashville had against 322 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.600 US came from dead ball situations, which are throwings. Uh, 323 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:40.279 their goalkick set pieces, second phase set pieces, so like, 324 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:44.240 these are all controllable moments where we actually have a 325 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:48.120 chance to set up. So that's that's been the difficult part, 326 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.440 you know, And and so that's what we focus on 327 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.399 this week is and we use the slogan when the 328 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:55.720 ball is dead, we come alive. Right when the ball 329 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.080 is dead, you think I'm gonna get my chance to rest, 330 00:15:58.080 --> 00:15:59.519 but no, this is when you come alive because this 331 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:02.960 is when we're conceding our most chances. So I think 332 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.600 the area is where we've been deficient. Obviously, you know, 333 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.360 scoring goals has been another area. But I think again 334 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:14.399 the rhythm of play has been better, the chances have improved, 335 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:16.720 the quality of chances have improved, So I think we're 336 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.080 trending in the right direction. And this is what I 337 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:21.559 alluded to at the beginning is you've got to put 338 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.879 two good games together with two wins in order to 339 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.399 validate the work, and the belief system goes up and 340 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:32.200 the confidence goes up. And that's why I think the 341 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.320 result against Nashville left the bat taste in our mouths 342 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.200 because I think we're on the cusp of really finding 343 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.080 our form, finding our way, and getting. 344 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.159 Good results before we get to Toronto. 345 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.919 Your opponent on Saturday, the way you kind of broke 346 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.600 down where you feel like you guys are excelling, does 347 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:50.360 indicate you might have a hole on your roster, and 348 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.840 of course I will ask you once again, and I 349 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:54.360 know you might get sick of it. I had to 350 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.039 ask Kurt this week, and I feel like you want 351 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.240 to strangle me through the phone. But Pablo, we're less 352 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:01.360 than a week away, man, and we just are. And 353 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:03.519 then that window closes. Then you have to wait until 354 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:06.480 the summer, and the season might be tough to get 355 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.079 back at that point, as you know. So for the 356 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:11.480 RSL fans that are glued to the radio waiting for 357 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:13.400 the one question, they probably have been wanting me to 358 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:16.759 ask you for twenty minutes. Now, what is the progress? 359 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:20.440 Where are we at? Our reinforcements on the way. 360 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.039 So I might get in trouble for saying this, but 361 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:28.079 I've been told that we are going to get a 362 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:32.680 big player across the line. Okay, So now that's me 363 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.880 probably speaking out of turn, because again, like these things spent, 364 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.279 like I've said all along, and that's why I've been hesitant. 365 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.400 It's there. There's so much that has to go through. 366 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.039 But I've been but I've been told that that we're 367 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.839 going to get this across the line. Those are our expectations. 368 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.640 So I'm going with that, and this player could be 369 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:54.599 coming at a better time. Like I said, I think 370 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.200 we're really moving in the right direction with the way 371 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:59.319 we want to play and all these things and him 372 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:03.400 coming into that's that's that's confident, and that's you know, 373 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.759 building towards something special. I think is a great environment 374 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:09.799 for which to come into the group. And and and 375 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.680 there's also a possibility of adding a little bit more 376 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.799 experience to the roster, and that hasn't been yet solidified, 377 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.000 but I think we're close there as well. So I'm optimistic. 378 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.880 I'm an eternal optimist. I feel like we're gonna we're 379 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.240 gonna turn things around shortly here. I feel like these 380 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.880 we're gonna get a couple of players in and uh, 381 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:30.599 we'll be moving full steam. 382 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.759 Ads music to our ears before I set you loose. 383 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:34.240 Uh. 384 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.160 Toronto rolls into town on Saturday and they have not 385 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:39.960 won the game all year. They've played eight games, they've 386 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.559 lost four, they've drawn for I'm not one, based off 387 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:45.680 of my experience at MLS to say a game in 388 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:47.839 April as a must win, but this feels like there's 389 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:50.200 maybe a little heightened pressure for you on Saturday night. 390 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:50.720 Is that fair? 391 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.880 Yeah? I mean, just based upon the fact that we're 392 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.599 we're we're we're we're doing everything that we're asked that's 393 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:01.880 being added of the guys, they're they're doing, they're they're 394 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:04.759 putting in all the work. And you know, we're up 395 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:08.519 against the Toronto team that have actually had three or 396 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.160 four good results in a row. And results I mean 397 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:13.920 they've they've drawn, they haven't won, but they've played some 398 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.200 really good stuff and they've played against some really difficult teams. 399 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.839 Right they went to Miami and got to draw in Miami, 400 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:21.960 which they probably should have won that game. So again, 401 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.680