1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,919 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,799 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're kicking open the vault 3 00:00:06,839 --> 00:00:09,320 once again, and we're going to take a look at 4 00:00:09,359 --> 00:00:13,119 the questioning that was done of Jane Do number two 5 00:00:13,759 --> 00:00:17,160 when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and the Florida investigation. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,679 And if you notice in the court documents we've been 7 00:00:19,719 --> 00:00:22,320 talking about, a lot has been made of Jane Do 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,320 number two. So let's see what she had to say 9 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:30,760 in this interview with the investigators, including Marie Vilafauna. And 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,359 to start things off, there's somebody named Agent Richards who's 11 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:37,679 asking the questions, and of course Jane Do two is 12 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:41,880 doing the answering. Question. Jane Do two, we just want 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,479 to start off, and I'll lead off. First. We just 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,200 want to get some basic information about you, simple stuff. 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,719 I've got your data birth seven twenty six eighty eight. 16 00:00:50,799 --> 00:00:54,479 Is that correct answer, yes, sir, question. I just want 17 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:56,880 to get like your basics, like that stuff. First, your 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,960 current address, she gives it to him. Your cell phone number, 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,240 she gives it to them. Then they keep asking about 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,879 the cell phone number and the different service providers that 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,280 she has. So we're going to skip past that and 22 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:11,840 get right down to the questions that are being asked. 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,040 Question where did you go to high school? Answer redacted? 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Question and what year did you graduate? Answer? I dropped out? 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,760 An eleventh question what year was that that you dropped out? 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,560 Do you remember? Answer? No? Question What year were you 27 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:32,000 supposed to graduate your class? Answer two thousand and six? 28 00:01:32,519 --> 00:01:37,159 Question okay, answer I got my ged Question when did 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,359 you get that? Answer about three months ago? Question and 30 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:43,879 are you currently going to college anywhere? Answer? Not right now? 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,879 Question plans? Answer I have a plan. Uh. Villa Fauna 32 00:01:48,959 --> 00:01:53,280 asked the question, now where are you thinking of going? Answer? 33 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:55,519 I'm not positive what I want to do. There's a 34 00:01:55,519 --> 00:01:57,640 lot of things on my mind, but right now I'm 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,799 focusing on my son. I have a two year old. 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Right now, I'm just working agent Richards. Is he a 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,840 handful witness, Yeah, Richards, I have one too, the witness. Yeah. 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,439 So in the future, I'm definitely going to go to college. 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,120 I'm going definitely going to go to school. But I have, 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,400 you know, a modeling career going on right now that's 41 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:22,000 hopefully going to get someone to notice me. Vila Fauna. 42 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:25,479 Question or else are you working? Answer? I work for 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Advanced cleaning systems, they clean carpets, Agent Richards, advance, what 44 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:35,879 is it the witness system cleaning Villa Fauna? And where 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,560 they located? She gives the address. Question are you working 46 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,479 in an office there? Or do you go out to 47 00:02:41,479 --> 00:02:46,280 people's homes? Answer? I work in an office there. Agent Richards. 48 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:49,240 Obviously you know where we're, why we're here, and what 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,400 we want to talk about. So let me just kind 50 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:54,879 of lead into do you know Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes? 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,520 Question yes, of course you do. Now when did you 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,000 meet jeff Does he go by Jeff or Jeffrey or 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,280 answer Jeffrey? Question Okay, when did you meet him? And 54 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:10,759 who introduced you to Jeffrey? Answer? My girlfriend Carolyn introduced 55 00:03:10,759 --> 00:03:14,560 me to Jeffrey, and by that she means Carolyn Andreano, 56 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:17,919 the one who ended up unfortunately taking her own life. 57 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:21,919 Question do you know her last name? Answer? No, she 58 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:24,199 was a friend of one of my friends, so I 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,360 really didn't know her. Miss Villa Fauna. Question one was that? Answer? 60 00:03:28,719 --> 00:03:31,520 I really couldn't tell you. I don't even remember. It's 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,120 been so long ago, Agent Richards. So Carolyn introduced you 62 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:38,759 to him? Was it at a party setting or how 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,400 did you guys meet. Answer no. She came to me 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,199 and she said, would you like to make a couple dollars? 65 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,800 And I said sure, I said doing what She said, Well, 66 00:03:48,039 --> 00:03:50,400 I know this Jeffrey and he lives on Palm Beach 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Island and I bring girls there and he likes massages. 68 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:56,080 And I was like okay, So I asked her, I said, well, 69 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,680 what about my age? And she said, well, just make 70 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:01,199 sure that you tell him that you're eighteen. And I 71 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,759 had a fake idea at the time, and we went there. 72 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:09,240 Question okay, and about what time period was that? Answer? 73 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:12,400 What time period? Question? Yes? As far as what year 74 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:16,480 were you in school? Answer I was sixteen. Villa Fauna. 75 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Were you a freshman or a sophomore? Do you remember? Answer? 76 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,120 I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. Probably a sophomore. Question. Now, 77 00:04:24,399 --> 00:04:27,160 you said that Carolyn told you that he likes massages. 78 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:32,240 Did she elaborate on what types of massages? Answer? She said, 79 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,120 sometimes he likes topless massages. But you don't have to 80 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,839 do anything you don't want to do. He just likes massages. 81 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,879 Question and do you know whether Carolyn had given him massages? Answer? Yes, 82 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:45,600 she said she's done it. Before. Question and do you 83 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,399 know whether Carolyn had taken any other girls over to 84 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:52,720 see Jeffrey? Answer? Yes, she probably did. Question did she 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,160 tell you how much you would make? Answer? Yes, Question 86 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,600 what did she tell you? Answer? We go there and 87 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:02,600 we make two hundred and thirty minutes. Question Now you 88 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:05,199 said that you asked her, you know that, do I 89 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,639 need to be worried about my age? Why did you 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,879 ask her that? Answer? Because I don't want to be. 91 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:12,079 You know, it was like I was underage, and I 92 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,480 was young, and I was pretty stupid, and I didn't 93 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:16,040 want to get I didn't want to get in trouble, 94 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,879 so I always made sure that I had a fake 95 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,360 ID anyway, saying that I was eighteen, And she just 96 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:24,720 said make sure you're eighteen, because Jeffrey doesn't want any 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,600 underage girls. Agent Richards, Now, Carolyn, did she where did 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,040 you meet her at in school? What? Setting? Answer? I 99 00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:35,720 was at a friend's house, my girlfriend's house. I don't 100 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,319 know what girlfriend's house. It was. Everybody was just hanging out, 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,560 and she said she came up to me and she 102 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,600 asked me, She said, do you want to make a 103 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:47,360 couple of bucks? And I said sure? Question and after 104 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:49,639 the first time that she took you over there to 105 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:52,519 meet mister Epstein. Did she ever call you again to 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,199 set up any appointments with him or anything like that? Answer? No, 107 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,160 question did she ever call you on the phone? Is 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,439 what I'm asking? Answer No. I gave Jeffrey my number, 109 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:04,560 and I said, you know, any time you want me 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,480 to give you a massage again, I'll more than welcome 111 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:11,879 to Villa Fauna. Question So Carolyn took you the first time, 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,839 but then after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey. Answer 113 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:18,959 uh huh. Question tell us about the first time he 114 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,199 went to his house. Who how did you get there? 115 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:24,959 Answer one of Carolyn's friends. And they dropped us off 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,319 and then we went, you know, we got escorted up 117 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:30,240 to the massage room, and he told me everything. He said, listen, 118 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:33,040 I like massages. And we had the whole massage table, 119 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,920 laid out the lotions and everything, and she was in 120 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,360 there for the first five minutes. And the first time 121 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:42,639 I gave him a massage, she left the room and 122 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,120 I gave him a massage, and she told me, she 123 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:48,279 says he likes women topless, so I willingly the first 124 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,399 time took off my top when I gave him a 125 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:53,360 massage and nothing more than that. It was just a 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,240 back massage and a neck massage, and I was out 127 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,839 of there. Question Okay, let me just ask you a 128 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,800 couple of follow up questions. He said that someone escorted 129 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,920 you up to the room. Do you know who that was? 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,600 Answer one of what's her name? Actually Sarah? Sarah just 131 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:11,079 said you know it's up there, and she just told 132 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:14,319 me where it was. Question And then you said that 133 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:18,199 you and Carolyn went upstairs together. Answer, uh huh? Question 134 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,319 and Carolyn stayed there for the first few minutes. Answer, 135 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:24,240 uh huh. Question Was Jeffrey already in the room by 136 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:27,439 the time Carolyn left? Answer? Yeah, he was in the room. 137 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,879 Question Okay, was he there when you guys showed up 138 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:32,560 in the room or did he come after you were 139 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,079 already there? Answer? He was in the room already. Question 140 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:39,759 and you said you took your top off. Did anybody 141 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,639 ask you to take it off? Did Carolyn say it's 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,079 time for you to take it off? No, she wasn't 143 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,480 in the room. Question by the time you took it off? Okay. 144 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:52,120 Answer I said, I told Jeffrey I heard you like 145 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:55,120 massages topless, and He's like, yeah, he said, but you 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,439 don't have to do anything that you don't feel comfortable with, 147 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,240 and I said, okay, but I willingly took it off. 148 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,319 Question okay, and during the first massage, you said that 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,560 you gave him a shoulder and neck massage. Answer neck, back, shoulder, Yeah. 150 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:10,720 Question was he face down the entire time that he 151 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:14,480 got his massage? Answer? Yeah? Question and what did you 152 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,040 do during the massage? Did you talk or answer? Yeah? 153 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,120 We talked. Question And what did you talk about with him? Answer? Well, 154 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,240 we were just getting to know each other. We talked 155 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,920 about how my lifestyle was, what he did for a living, 156 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:30,560 and just all the positive things, really nice things. Okay. 157 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:32,879 What was he wearing when you first came into the room. 158 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,000 Answer I'm sorry when first when he first came into 159 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 the room, he was fully clothed, and then he said, 160 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:40,960 you know, wait a second, I'm going to go on 161 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,759 the massage table and put a towel over him like 162 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:47,120 normal messuses would do. Question did he undress and put 163 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,320 a towel around him? Answer? Uh huh? Question okay, Answer yeah, 164 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,720 I didn't see anything. It was just back, neck and shoulders. 165 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,879 Question And after the massage was over, you received the 166 00:08:57,919 --> 00:09:01,440 two hundred. Answer, he gives the money right away. Question 167 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,000 I'm sorry, was that before you started the massage or 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,399 after the massage he gave you gave him? Answer the 169 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,639 first time, he gave me the money right away. Question Okay, 170 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:14,159 and he's the person that paid you the two hundred dollars. Answer, No, 171 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,879 it's always Sarah. Question Sarah gave you the money? Answer? 172 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,759 Uh huh? Agent Richards. Question what's Sarah's last name? Do 173 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,080 you know? Answer? I don't know. Mister Eisenberg, you can't 174 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,159 look at papers if you think you know, you know 175 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,759 if you don't know the witness. No, I don't know. 176 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:36,600 I don't know Sarah's last name, Miss Villa Fauna. Okay. 177 00:09:36,799 --> 00:09:38,840 The only thing I'm confused about is you said that 178 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,879 Sarah didn't even take you upstairs. She just told you 179 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:44,960 where you should go. Answer uh huh. Question, so when 180 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,120 did she pay you the money? Answer? She paid me 181 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:50,399 then and there when I first walked in the door 182 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,000 with Carolyn. Agent Richards. Question she paid you before you 183 00:09:55,039 --> 00:09:59,600 went upstairs? Answer yes, Villa Fauna. Question and how much 184 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,600 was car paid? Answer? Everybody got two hundred? Question and 185 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,279 after So, after the massage was finished, you said that 186 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:09,279 you've already been paid. Who asked you for your name 187 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,279 and telephone number? Answer? Jeffrey said, well, I'd like to 188 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,399 see you again. Can I have your number? From what 189 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,240 I remember, I'm pretty sure that he asked for my 190 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,279 number and I gave him my number. Question okay, Agent Richards. 191 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:24,440 Did he write it down upstairs? He had a penhandy, 192 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,080 I hope answer? Uh huh, Villa fauna. Question On the 193 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,000 first massage, you said that you worked on them topless. 194 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,200 But when you first started, what were you wearing? Answer? 195 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,440 I was wearing a shirt, a normal shirt and jeans. 196 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,879 And I started to do the massage, and I said, well, 197 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,759 I heard you like topless massages, And of course he 198 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:44,480 thought I was eighteen, And he's like, I do I 199 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,480 prefer that? And who wouldn't you know? So I said, okay, 200 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,120 and I took it off. Question And you took off 201 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,320 your bra as well? Answer yes, question, and you left 202 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,000 your genes on answer yes. Question Okay. So you gave 203 00:10:57,039 --> 00:10:59,799 him a massage. Did your request you do anything special 204 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:04,080 in the massage? Answer? No question? And he never turned 205 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,600 over during that first massage? Answer no question. So you 206 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,080 said that day he gave your name and number to Jeffrey. 207 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,120 When was your next contact from him or anybody that 208 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,080 worked for him? Answer the next day. He had called 209 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:20,000 me and said he would like me to come out 210 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,519 again and I'd like to see you again. I said sure, 211 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:24,879 I took a taxi there and I went there again. 212 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Question the following day, answer the next day. All right, folks, 213 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:31,399 we're going to wrap up right here, and in the 214 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,600 next episode, we're going to pick up where we left 215 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:36,679 off with the interview that Jane Doe two gave to 216 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:40,759 the investigators down in Florida. All of the information that 217 00:11:40,799 --> 00:11:44,159 goes with this episode can be found in the description box. 218 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,159 What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 219 00:11:47,159 --> 00:11:50,279 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to dive right 220 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,240 back in to the interview that Jane do two gave 221 00:11:54,279 --> 00:11:58,879 to Murray, Villa, Fauna and the investigators. Question, how did 222 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:02,759 you get home the first time when Carolyn took you over? 223 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:05,919 Did you get a taxi? Answer? No, our friend came 224 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,440 back and picked us up. Question which friend was at? Answer? 225 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:11,919 His name was Brian. I don't know his last name. 226 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,639 I really didn't know Carolyn and I didn't know her 227 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,200 friends or whatever. But I met Jeffrey. And once I 228 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,159 met Jeffrey, he was a very awesome guy, and I just, 229 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,360 I don't know. I ended up giving him my numbers 230 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,799 so I could. I didn't want Carolyn or Brian to 231 00:12:24,879 --> 00:12:27,120 drive me anymore. I would rather go to him on 232 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:30,960 my own, Miss Villafauna. Question when you would take the 233 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,279 taxis to and from would he pay for them? Answer? Yeah? 234 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,679 Question and he would pay when you arrived answer uh huh. 235 00:12:38,879 --> 00:12:41,519 Question and then he would just give you extra money 236 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:44,720 when you left to pay for the taxi. Answer no, 237 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,039 I never asked him for extra money, so I just 238 00:12:47,039 --> 00:12:50,120 paid for my own taxi. Question okay, so from the 239 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:52,879 money that he paid you for the massage? Answer two 240 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,600 hundred yeah. Question where were you living at the time? Answer? 241 00:12:57,919 --> 00:13:01,320 I was living at Redacted's, ocated next to oh ketch 242 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,200 a Bee down to where I lived. Question do you 243 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,279 remember how much that taxi fare was each way? Answer 244 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,240 twenty dollars? Question and did you always use the same 245 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:14,879 taxi service or answer No, I used different taxis all 246 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:17,840 the time. Question and you would just call and have 247 00:13:17,919 --> 00:13:20,559 them come to your house? Answer uh huh. I used 248 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,120 a whole bunch of different taxis whatever is available? Question 249 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,679 So you mentioned that the second massage. Was it any 250 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,799 different from the first one? Answer? Yes, question how is 251 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,279 it different? Answer? When I went there, I went by 252 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:34,919 myself and I went up to the massage room and 253 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,559 Jeffrey was just like regular like he was before, on 254 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,720 his stomach and he had a towel over and we 255 00:13:40,759 --> 00:13:43,240 started the massage, and I had my top off willingly. 256 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,799 And after the massage, he asked me the whole time. 257 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,679 He says, are you comfortable with me doing this? And 258 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:51,559 I said yes, And he turned around and this was 259 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:54,720 like at the end of the massage, our thirty minute massage. 260 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Usually it was even shorter than that. And he masturbated 261 00:13:57,879 --> 00:13:59,519 at the end of the massage, and it was like 262 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,559 two second skins and I was just topless. Question And 263 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,000 when he turned over, did he touch you at all? 264 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:10,600 Or was he just she cuts him off. No, he 265 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,639 didn't want me to touch him, and he didn't touch 266 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:15,120 me at all. Question. Did he ever ask you to 267 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,080 rub his chest or rub his nipples during the massage? Answer? Actually, 268 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,279 later on, because I saw him for a long time. 269 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Later on, I asked him, you know, and I asked 270 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:25,919 him I would give him, you know, I would rub 271 00:14:25,919 --> 00:14:29,679 his chest or whatever and massage him while he was masturbating. Yeah. 272 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,759 Question so eventually you would continue the massage and he 273 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:37,240 would masturbate at the same time. Answer yeah, but it 274 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,080 wasn't on his lower area. Question No, you never touched 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,120 his penis. Answer right, question okay, so that was during 276 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:48,919 the second massage. You were paid two hundred again? Answer always? 277 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,279 Question always every time you went there? Answer always? Now, 278 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:58,399 Agent Richard's interjects. Question was it always Sarah that paid you? Answer? 279 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:02,480 Sometimes Jeffrey would, and sometimes Starah Wood Villafana jumps back in. 280 00:15:02,879 --> 00:15:07,120 Was it usually before or after the massage? Answer after 281 00:15:07,159 --> 00:15:09,360 the first time. It was always after. I would go 282 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:12,840 downstairs and I'd get paid. Question so just sort of 283 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,519 tell us when a massage ended, which I assume was 284 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:20,080 after he ejaculated. Answer it wasn't all the time that 285 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,919 he did, though. Question okay. Answer, it wasn't like every 286 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:27,080 time I went there he released. Sometimes he just wanted 287 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,799 his feet massage. Sometimes he just wanted a back massage. Okay. 288 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:33,399 But when the massage was over, however it ended, you 289 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,360 would just get dressed and go downstairs by yourself. Or 290 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,919 did he take you downstairs? Answer? Yeah, the chef would 291 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,559 make us food and it'd be great, and Jeffrey would 292 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,159 get dressed and he'd come with us sometimes or you know, 293 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,559 it wasn't We had fun. It was all positive. Question Okay, 294 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,399 how many massages do you think that you gave Jeffrey? Answer? 295 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:55,879 I gave Jeffrey a lot of massages. I can tell you. 296 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:58,159 I can't tell you I saw him for a good year. 297 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:01,720 Question how many times would you see him weekly or 298 00:16:01,799 --> 00:16:05,440 more than once? Answer? Yeah, question more than once a week? 299 00:16:05,679 --> 00:16:09,720 Answer I personally would, or I'd bring girls. Question okay, 300 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,600 but either you would or either a girl that you brought. 301 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,120 Answer yeah, question okay, answer but after a while it 302 00:16:17,159 --> 00:16:21,240 wasn't me anymore. I had brought girls, but I got 303 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,039 paid two hundred to bring girls. Answer okay. So let's 304 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,720 talk about when you were performing the massages. What other 305 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:30,799 sorts of things would happen? You said that sometimes he 306 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,399 would just like his feet massage. What else would happen 307 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:38,120 during those sessions? Answer? Nothing? Everything I told you. Question okay, 308 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:42,240 so sometimes a back massage. Answer Sometimes he liked back massages. 309 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,320 Sometimes he liked feet massages. Sometimes he liked his head massage. 310 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:50,679 He liked his head massaged a lot sometimes like massages. Yeah, 311 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,960 and it wasn't every time that we went there that 312 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,519 he masturbated. Question okay, any idea half and half or 313 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,279 less than half the time that he masturbated? Answer us 314 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,519 the time he masturbated. Question did you always perform topless? 315 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,480 Did you ever get completely naked towards the end or 316 00:17:06,519 --> 00:17:09,319 in the middle or remove all your clothing? Answer? I 317 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:12,359 would wear panties willingly one time because we were making 318 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,519 jokes and everything, and willingly one time I had, Yes, 319 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,759 I was totally nude, but I was fine with it. 320 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Question okay, answer totally fine with it. Question how did 321 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,039 that massage go? Answer? Actually it was a foot massage 322 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,559 and he was sitting on the couch. We didn't even 323 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,640 have the massage table out, and I gave him a 324 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,000 foot rub and I was nude. Question and how much 325 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:36,319 were you paid for that? Answer? Two hundred? Every single time? 326 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Question did he at any point kiss you, touch you, 327 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,400 show any kind of affection towards you? Answer? Never? Never? 328 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:48,759 Question okay. Then Agent Richards interjects question why not? Answer 329 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:51,559 why not? Why would he question? You seem like a 330 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,759 nice young lady, attractive. He never had any urges to answer. 331 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,119 I asked him. I said, when are you going to 332 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,000 get married? When are you going to get married? Jack? 333 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:02,880 He said, I'm never getting married. He has, you know, 334 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,440 beautiful women all the time. Why would he bila fauna? 335 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,920 She jumps in now? Question he never pulled you closer 336 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,880 to him in a sexual way? Answer? I wish no, no, no, 337 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,599 never ever. Jeffrey is an awesome man. No question. Okay, 338 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:21,480 Now you said that at some point you started bringing 339 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:26,160 other girls over. Answer, uh huh? Question how did that start? Answer? 340 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,160 He likes to see different faces. Questions so he asked 341 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,200 you if you had friends that you could bring over 342 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,880 or other girls? Answer? Uh huh? Question? And how did 343 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,960 you decide who you would ask to come over? Answer? 344 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:40,559 All of my good looking girlfriends and if they had friends. 345 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:43,319 It's all about you know, we were just making money, 346 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,799 and Jeffrey's an awesome guy. We just you know, I 347 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:48,839 could tell my girlfriends just like Carolyn approached me, make 348 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,279 sure you tell them you're eighteen. Well, these girls that 349 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:53,920 I brought I know there were eighteen or nineteen or twenty, 350 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,920 and the girls that I didn't know, I don't know 351 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,960 if they were lying or not. I would say, make 352 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,720 sure that you tell them you're eighteen. Question Okay, what 353 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:03,799 exactly would you tell them about what would happen after 354 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:06,799 you first got to the house. Answer? I said, he 355 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,200 likes massages, but he prefers topless massages. But if you're 356 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,880 not comfortable, then don't do it and it won't matter. 357 00:19:13,559 --> 00:19:18,559 Question did any of them tell you what happened after that? Answer? Always? Always? 358 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:22,119 I even asked them. Question okay, and with the other girls, 359 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:26,079 was it the same girl that you did or different? Answer? Yeah? Yeah, 360 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,319 I mean well, I was more willing to do more, 361 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,319 you know, Like I said, I went nude for him 362 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,680 one time, but the other girls they were practically topless 363 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,480 and that's all they were willing to do. Some girls 364 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:39,519 didn't want to go topless, and Jeffrey didn't mind. Question 365 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:43,039 were there girls that you brought back multiple times? Answer? 366 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:45,440 A couple, a couple, but he really liked to see 367 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,640 different faces. Question Okay, I'm just wondering are there some 368 00:19:49,759 --> 00:19:52,480 girls he really liked and others he didn't like? Or 369 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:56,319 did he have any preferences in terms of blondes brunettes? Answer? 370 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,039 He liked girls like me. Question okay it thin and attractive? Answer? Yeah, 371 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:04,319 I guess very attractive women, and he didn't say girls. 372 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,400 He said women all the time. Did you ever bring 373 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,440 anybody he didn't care for? Answer? Uh huh? Question yeah 374 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:16,519 answer yeah. Question how was she different than the others? Answer? Black? 375 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:19,519 I screwed up and just say, you know, to interject here, 376 00:20:19,559 --> 00:20:24,480 Epstein and Maxwell were super racist, absolute racist pieces of shit, 377 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:27,440 and the things they said about people were just vile, 378 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,759 absolutely vile. Question how did you know you screwed up? Answer? 379 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,680 He doesn't like black women obviously. Question so he let 380 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,359 you know he told you that. Answer Yeah, but he 381 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,599 was still nice and he still gave her two hundred 382 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,440 even though he didn't have a massage buyer. Question how 383 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,640 did he he paid you two hundred for bringing each girl? Answer? 384 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Uh huh. Question and when he told you that, I 385 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:52,400 mean that's what he told you that he would pay 386 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,400 you two hundred for bringing the girls. Answer yeah, he 387 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,240 said if you bring me, if you bring me girls, 388 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,799 I'll definitely, you know, give you money, compensate you for 389 00:20:59,839 --> 00:21:02,559 your time and willing to do that for me. Yeah. 390 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:05,839 Question And you said, at that point you stop performing 391 00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:08,799 massages for him? Answer at that point, I didn't. It 392 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:11,960 would be sporadically like usually I had so many girlfriends 393 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,839 at the time, you know, there were so many new 394 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,359 faces that he saw, and if one was available, then 395 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,720 redacted would go question, I gotcha. Question, do you know 396 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:25,119 some of the girls that you brought some of their names? Answer? 397 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,680 I don't remember. Really, there were not even my friends. 398 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:30,599 They were just associates, you know, if anything, they'd be 399 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:34,119 friends of friends. So no question we have. I don't know. 400 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,839 We have some messages. I guess that some girls' names 401 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:39,240 that will call Jeffrey and leave a message. There are 402 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,799 some girls' names that are referenced. We were just wondering 403 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:44,759 if you knew them. Answer, if you name them, I 404 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:47,880 can probably remember. Ms. Villa Fauna, Jason, do you have that? 405 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:53,480 Richard's question redacted as one answer, I don't know. Redacted. 406 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:55,799 Do you know her last name? Villa Fauna. We were 407 00:21:55,799 --> 00:21:59,440 hoping you did, the witness. No, I don't agent Richards 408 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:03,839 question redacted answer redacted, No, that sounds like a black 409 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,720 girl's name. Question, well, you brought a black girl, was 410 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,559 that her name? Answer? I don't know, don't ask me 411 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:16,359 question redacted answer redacted, redacted, Yeah, I brought redacted. Question 412 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:20,279 who is she tell us about? Redacted answer? Redacted. Well, 413 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,799 we just look alike. If that's the girl I'm thinking about. 414 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,279 We went to school together and I brought her one time, 415 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:27,680 and then she ended up moving so she couldn't come 416 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,200 with me. Question were you guys in the same grade 417 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,079 or answer? No, she was older than me. Question a 418 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,240 year or two? Answer she was. Actually she was like eighteen. 419 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:39,680 I don't know she was older. She was like, you know, 420 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:42,880 two ranks, two grades ahead of me. Question so when 421 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,799 you were a sophomore she was a senior? Answer I 422 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,160 just met her in school and I told her Villa fauna. 423 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,000 Question what was her name? Answer? I don't know? Agent 424 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:56,559 Richards question do you know where she lived? Answer? I 425 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,119 just met her at school and I told her about it. 426 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,759 When you told her about it at school? Is that 427 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,599 where your discussion was? Answer well, I said give me 428 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,519 your number. I said, we can make a couple of dollars. 429 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:10,039 It's real easy, and if you're comfortable with it, give 430 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:12,759 me a call. Question was that at school or at 431 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:16,559 a party? Answer? No, at school. Question at school? You're 432 00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:19,279 not sure her last name and what it was? Answer 433 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:22,039 I have no idea. Question do you know where she 434 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:24,279 lives or anything like that? What kind of car she drove. 435 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,119 Answer no. Question what did she look like? Answer what 436 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,279 she looked like? Question yeah? Answer like me everything, blonde hair, 437 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,000 blue eyes. Question we're talking about redacted? You were at 438 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,640 redacted high school at the time? Answer no, I was 439 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,359 out redacted? Question redacted? Okay, answer and that's where redacted 440 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,400 went to school. Question what about a girl name redacted? Answer? Who? 441 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,920 Agent Richards? Question did you bring a redacted? Answer? I 442 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,759 brought a couple of redacteds. Question I want to know 443 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,559 about everyone you brought. Well, one of them died recently, 444 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,240 so question what was her name? In a car accident 445 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,880 or something? Answer? No, she died. Unfortunately, she got shot 446 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,240 in the head. You guys probably heard it on the news. 447 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:11,480 She got shot in the head by this guy. I 448 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,559 don't even want to talk about it because i'll cry 449 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:17,599 ms Villa fauna. Question let's talk about the other redacted? 450 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,519 Answer I don't even know. I don't know. I don't know. 451 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,799 There were some girls that I just would take one 452 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,119 time and then I would never talk to again, So 453 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:29,480 I don't know. Question how many girls do you think 454 00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:33,240 you brought to Jeffrey's house? Answer that's a good question. 455 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:36,200 I bring a lot like maybe I don't know, maybe thirty, 456 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,599 maybe thirty. It was all about the money to me 457 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,200 at that time. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up 458 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,319 right here, and in the next episode we're gonna pick 459 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,960 up where we left off. All of the information that 460 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,319 goes with this episode can be found in the description box.