Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're kicking open the vault
once again, and we're going to take a look at
the questioning that was done of Jane Do number two
when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and the Florida investigation.
And if you notice in the court documents we've been
talking about, a lot has been made of Jane Do
number two. So let's see what she had to say
in this interview with the investigators, including Marie Vilafauna. And
to start things off, there's somebody named Agent Richards who's
asking the questions, and of course Jane Do two is
doing the answering. Question. Jane Do two, we just want
to start off, and I'll lead off. First. We just
want to get some basic information about you, simple stuff.
I've got your data birth seven twenty six eighty eight.
Is that correct answer, yes, sir, question. I just want
to get like your basics, like that stuff. First, your
current address, she gives it to him. Your cell phone number,
she gives it to them. Then they keep asking about
the cell phone number and the different service providers that
she has. So we're going to skip past that and
get right down to the questions that are being asked.
Question where did you go to high school? Answer redacted?
Question and what year did you graduate? Answer? I dropped out?
An eleventh question what year was that that you dropped out?
Do you remember? Answer? No? Question What year were you
supposed to graduate your class? Answer two thousand and six?
Question okay, answer I got my ged Question when did
you get that? Answer about three months ago? Question and
are you currently going to college anywhere? Answer? Not right now?
Question plans? Answer I have a plan. Uh. Villa Fauna
asked the question, now where are you thinking of going? Answer?
I'm not positive what I want to do. There's a
lot of things on my mind, but right now I'm
focusing on my son. I have a two year old.
Right now, I'm just working agent Richards. Is he a
handful witness, Yeah, Richards, I have one too, the witness. Yeah.
So in the future, I'm definitely going to go to college.
I'm going definitely going to go to school. But I have,
you know, a modeling career going on right now that's
hopefully going to get someone to notice me. Vila Fauna.
Question or else are you working? Answer? I work for
Advanced cleaning systems, they clean carpets, Agent Richards, advance, what
is it the witness system cleaning Villa Fauna? And where
they located? She gives the address. Question are you working
in an office there? Or do you go out to
people's homes? Answer? I work in an office there. Agent Richards.
Obviously you know where we're, why we're here, and what
we want to talk about. So let me just kind
of lead into do you know Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes?
Question yes, of course you do. Now when did you
meet jeff Does he go by Jeff or Jeffrey or
answer Jeffrey? Question Okay, when did you meet him? And
who introduced you to Jeffrey? Answer? My girlfriend Carolyn introduced
me to Jeffrey, and by that she means Carolyn Andreano,
the one who ended up unfortunately taking her own life.
Question do you know her last name? Answer? No, she
was a friend of one of my friends, so I
really didn't know her. Miss Villa Fauna. Question one was that? Answer?
I really couldn't tell you. I don't even remember. It's
been so long ago, Agent Richards. So Carolyn introduced you
to him? Was it at a party setting or how
did you guys meet. Answer no. She came to me
and she said, would you like to make a couple dollars?
And I said sure, I said doing what She said, Well,
I know this Jeffrey and he lives on Palm Beach
Island and I bring girls there and he likes massages.
And I was like okay, So I asked her, I said, well,
what about my age? And she said, well, just make
sure that you tell him that you're eighteen. And I
had a fake idea at the time, and we went there.
Question okay, and about what time period was that? Answer?
What time period? Question? Yes? As far as what year
were you in school? Answer I was sixteen. Villa Fauna.
Were you a freshman or a sophomore? Do you remember? Answer?
I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. Probably a sophomore. Question. Now,
you said that Carolyn told you that he likes massages.
Did she elaborate on what types of massages? Answer? She said,
sometimes he likes topless massages. But you don't have to
do anything you don't want to do. He just likes massages.
Question and do you know whether Carolyn had given him massages? Answer? Yes,
she said she's done it. Before. Question and do you
know whether Carolyn had taken any other girls over to
see Jeffrey? Answer? Yes, she probably did. Question did she
tell you how much you would make? Answer? Yes, Question
what did she tell you? Answer? We go there and
we make two hundred and thirty minutes. Question Now you
said that you asked her, you know that, do I
need to be worried about my age? Why did you
ask her that? Answer? Because I don't want to be.
You know, it was like I was underage, and I
was young, and I was pretty stupid, and I didn't
want to get I didn't want to get in trouble,
so I always made sure that I had a fake
ID anyway, saying that I was eighteen, And she just
said make sure you're eighteen, because Jeffrey doesn't want any
underage girls. Agent Richards, Now, Carolyn, did she where did
you meet her at in school? What? Setting? Answer? I
was at a friend's house, my girlfriend's house. I don't
know what girlfriend's house. It was. Everybody was just hanging out,
and she said she came up to me and she
asked me, She said, do you want to make a
couple of bucks? And I said sure? Question and after
the first time that she took you over there to
meet mister Epstein. Did she ever call you again to
set up any appointments with him or anything like that? Answer? No,
question did she ever call you on the phone? Is
what I'm asking? Answer No. I gave Jeffrey my number,
and I said, you know, any time you want me
to give you a massage again, I'll more than welcome
to Villa Fauna. Question So Carolyn took you the first time,
but then after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey. Answer
uh huh. Question tell us about the first time he
went to his house. Who how did you get there?
Answer one of Carolyn's friends. And they dropped us off
and then we went, you know, we got escorted up
to the massage room, and he told me everything. He said, listen,
I like massages. And we had the whole massage table,
laid out the lotions and everything, and she was in
there for the first five minutes. And the first time
I gave him a massage, she left the room and
I gave him a massage, and she told me, she
says he likes women topless, so I willingly the first
time took off my top when I gave him a
massage and nothing more than that. It was just a
back massage and a neck massage, and I was out
of there. Question Okay, let me just ask you a
couple of follow up questions. He said that someone escorted
you up to the room. Do you know who that was?
Answer one of what's her name? Actually Sarah? Sarah just
said you know it's up there, and she just told
me where it was. Question And then you said that
you and Carolyn went upstairs together. Answer, uh huh? Question
and Carolyn stayed there for the first few minutes. Answer,
uh huh. Question Was Jeffrey already in the room by
the time Carolyn left? Answer? Yeah, he was in the room.
Question Okay, was he there when you guys showed up
in the room or did he come after you were
already there? Answer? He was in the room already. Question
and you said you took your top off. Did anybody
ask you to take it off? Did Carolyn say it's
time for you to take it off? No, she wasn't
in the room. Question by the time you took it off? Okay.
Answer I said, I told Jeffrey I heard you like
massages topless, and He's like, yeah, he said, but you
don't have to do anything that you don't feel comfortable with,
and I said, okay, but I willingly took it off.
Question okay, and during the first massage, you said that
you gave him a shoulder and neck massage. Answer neck, back, shoulder, Yeah.
Question was he face down the entire time that he
got his massage? Answer? Yeah? Question and what did you
do during the massage? Did you talk or answer? Yeah?
We talked. Question And what did you talk about with him? Answer? Well,
we were just getting to know each other. We talked
about how my lifestyle was, what he did for a living,
and just all the positive things, really nice things. Okay.
What was he wearing when you first came into the room.
Answer I'm sorry when first when he first came into
the room, he was fully clothed, and then he said,
you know, wait a second, I'm going to go on
the massage table and put a towel over him like
normal messuses would do. Question did he undress and put
a towel around him? Answer? Uh huh? Question okay, Answer yeah,
I didn't see anything. It was just back, neck and shoulders.
Question And after the massage was over, you received the
two hundred. Answer, he gives the money right away. Question
I'm sorry, was that before you started the massage or
after the massage he gave you gave him? Answer the
first time, he gave me the money right away. Question Okay,
and he's the person that paid you the two hundred dollars. Answer, No,
it's always Sarah. Question Sarah gave you the money? Answer?
Uh huh? Agent Richards. Question what's Sarah's last name? Do
you know? Answer? I don't know. Mister Eisenberg, you can't
look at papers if you think you know, you know
if you don't know the witness. No, I don't know.
I don't know Sarah's last name, Miss Villa Fauna. Okay.
The only thing I'm confused about is you said that
Sarah didn't even take you upstairs. She just told you
where you should go. Answer uh huh. Question, so when
did she pay you the money? Answer? She paid me
then and there when I first walked in the door
with Carolyn. Agent Richards. Question she paid you before you
went upstairs? Answer yes, Villa Fauna. Question and how much
was car paid? Answer? Everybody got two hundred? Question and
after So, after the massage was finished, you said that
you've already been paid. Who asked you for your name
and telephone number? Answer? Jeffrey said, well, I'd like to
see you again. Can I have your number? From what
I remember, I'm pretty sure that he asked for my
number and I gave him my number. Question okay, Agent Richards.
Did he write it down upstairs? He had a penhandy,
I hope answer? Uh huh, Villa fauna. Question On the
first massage, you said that you worked on them topless.
But when you first started, what were you wearing? Answer?
I was wearing a shirt, a normal shirt and jeans.
And I started to do the massage, and I said, well,
I heard you like topless massages, And of course he
thought I was eighteen, And he's like, I do I
prefer that? And who wouldn't you know? So I said, okay,
and I took it off. Question And you took off
your bra as well? Answer yes, question, and you left
your genes on answer yes. Question Okay. So you gave
him a massage. Did your request you do anything special
in the massage? Answer? No question? And he never turned
over during that first massage? Answer no question. So you
said that day he gave your name and number to Jeffrey.
When was your next contact from him or anybody that
worked for him? Answer the next day. He had called
me and said he would like me to come out
again and I'd like to see you again. I said sure,
I took a taxi there and I went there again.
Question the following day, answer the next day. All right, folks,
we're going to wrap up right here, and in the
next episode, we're going to pick up where we left
off with the interview that Jane Doe two gave to
the investigators down in Florida. All of the information that
goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to dive right
back in to the interview that Jane do two gave
to Murray, Villa, Fauna and the investigators. Question, how did
you get home the first time when Carolyn took you over?
Did you get a taxi? Answer? No, our friend came
back and picked us up. Question which friend was at? Answer?
His name was Brian. I don't know his last name.
I really didn't know Carolyn and I didn't know her
friends or whatever. But I met Jeffrey. And once I
met Jeffrey, he was a very awesome guy, and I just,
I don't know. I ended up giving him my numbers
so I could. I didn't want Carolyn or Brian to
drive me anymore. I would rather go to him on
my own, Miss Villafauna. Question when you would take the
taxis to and from would he pay for them? Answer? Yeah?
Question and he would pay when you arrived answer uh huh.
Question and then he would just give you extra money
when you left to pay for the taxi. Answer no,
I never asked him for extra money, so I just
paid for my own taxi. Question okay, so from the
money that he paid you for the massage? Answer two
hundred yeah. Question where were you living at the time? Answer?
I was living at Redacted's, ocated next to oh ketch
a Bee down to where I lived. Question do you
remember how much that taxi fare was each way? Answer
twenty dollars? Question and did you always use the same
taxi service or answer No, I used different taxis all
the time. Question and you would just call and have
them come to your house? Answer uh huh. I used
a whole bunch of different taxis whatever is available? Question
So you mentioned that the second massage. Was it any
different from the first one? Answer? Yes, question how is
it different? Answer? When I went there, I went by
myself and I went up to the massage room and
Jeffrey was just like regular like he was before, on
his stomach and he had a towel over and we
started the massage, and I had my top off willingly.
And after the massage, he asked me the whole time.
He says, are you comfortable with me doing this? And
I said yes, And he turned around and this was
like at the end of the massage, our thirty minute massage.
Usually it was even shorter than that. And he masturbated
at the end of the massage, and it was like
two second skins and I was just topless. Question And
when he turned over, did he touch you at all?
Or was he just she cuts him off. No, he
didn't want me to touch him, and he didn't touch
me at all. Question. Did he ever ask you to
rub his chest or rub his nipples during the massage? Answer? Actually,
later on, because I saw him for a long time.
Later on, I asked him, you know, and I asked
him I would give him, you know, I would rub
his chest or whatever and massage him while he was masturbating. Yeah.
Question so eventually you would continue the massage and he
would masturbate at the same time. Answer yeah, but it
wasn't on his lower area. Question No, you never touched
his penis. Answer right, question okay, so that was during
the second massage. You were paid two hundred again? Answer always?
Question always every time you went there? Answer always? Now,
Agent Richard's interjects. Question was it always Sarah that paid you? Answer?
Sometimes Jeffrey would, and sometimes Starah Wood Villafana jumps back in.
Was it usually before or after the massage? Answer after
the first time. It was always after. I would go
downstairs and I'd get paid. Question so just sort of
tell us when a massage ended, which I assume was
after he ejaculated. Answer it wasn't all the time that
he did, though. Question okay. Answer, it wasn't like every
time I went there he released. Sometimes he just wanted
his feet massage. Sometimes he just wanted a back massage. Okay.
But when the massage was over, however it ended, you
would just get dressed and go downstairs by yourself. Or
did he take you downstairs? Answer? Yeah, the chef would
make us food and it'd be great, and Jeffrey would
get dressed and he'd come with us sometimes or you know,
it wasn't We had fun. It was all positive. Question Okay,
how many massages do you think that you gave Jeffrey? Answer?
I gave Jeffrey a lot of massages. I can tell you.
I can't tell you I saw him for a good year.
Question how many times would you see him weekly or
more than once? Answer? Yeah, question more than once a week?
Answer I personally would, or I'd bring girls. Question okay,
but either you would or either a girl that you brought.
Answer yeah, question okay, answer but after a while it
wasn't me anymore. I had brought girls, but I got
paid two hundred to bring girls. Answer okay. So let's
talk about when you were performing the massages. What other
sorts of things would happen? You said that sometimes he
would just like his feet massage. What else would happen
during those sessions? Answer? Nothing? Everything I told you. Question okay,
so sometimes a back massage. Answer Sometimes he liked back massages.
Sometimes he liked feet massages. Sometimes he liked his head massage.
He liked his head massaged a lot sometimes like massages. Yeah,
and it wasn't every time that we went there that
he masturbated. Question okay, any idea half and half or
less than half the time that he masturbated? Answer us
the time he masturbated. Question did you always perform topless?
Did you ever get completely naked towards the end or
in the middle or remove all your clothing? Answer? I
would wear panties willingly one time because we were making
jokes and everything, and willingly one time I had, Yes,
I was totally nude, but I was fine with it.
Question okay, answer totally fine with it. Question how did
that massage go? Answer? Actually it was a foot massage
and he was sitting on the couch. We didn't even
have the massage table out, and I gave him a
foot rub and I was nude. Question and how much
were you paid for that? Answer? Two hundred? Every single time?
Question did he at any point kiss you, touch you,
show any kind of affection towards you? Answer? Never? Never?
Question okay. Then Agent Richards interjects question why not? Answer
why not? Why would he question? You seem like a
nice young lady, attractive. He never had any urges to answer.
I asked him. I said, when are you going to
get married? When are you going to get married? Jack?
He said, I'm never getting married. He has, you know,
beautiful women all the time. Why would he bila fauna?
She jumps in now? Question he never pulled you closer
to him in a sexual way? Answer? I wish no, no, no,
never ever. Jeffrey is an awesome man. No question. Okay,
Now you said that at some point you started bringing
other girls over. Answer, uh huh? Question how did that start? Answer?
He likes to see different faces. Questions so he asked
you if you had friends that you could bring over
or other girls? Answer? Uh huh? Question? And how did
you decide who you would ask to come over? Answer?
All of my good looking girlfriends and if they had friends.
It's all about you know, we were just making money,
and Jeffrey's an awesome guy. We just you know, I
could tell my girlfriends just like Carolyn approached me, make
sure you tell them you're eighteen. Well, these girls that
I brought I know there were eighteen or nineteen or twenty,
and the girls that I didn't know, I don't know
if they were lying or not. I would say, make
sure that you tell them you're eighteen. Question Okay, what
exactly would you tell them about what would happen after
you first got to the house. Answer? I said, he
likes massages, but he prefers topless massages. But if you're
not comfortable, then don't do it and it won't matter.
Question did any of them tell you what happened after that? Answer? Always? Always?
I even asked them. Question okay, and with the other girls,
was it the same girl that you did or different? Answer? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean well, I was more willing to do more,
you know, Like I said, I went nude for him
one time, but the other girls they were practically topless
and that's all they were willing to do. Some girls
didn't want to go topless, and Jeffrey didn't mind. Question
were there girls that you brought back multiple times? Answer?
A couple, a couple, but he really liked to see
different faces. Question Okay, I'm just wondering are there some
girls he really liked and others he didn't like? Or
did he have any preferences in terms of blondes brunettes? Answer?
He liked girls like me. Question okay it thin and attractive? Answer? Yeah,
I guess very attractive women, and he didn't say girls.
He said women all the time. Did you ever bring
anybody he didn't care for? Answer? Uh huh? Question yeah
answer yeah. Question how was she different than the others? Answer? Black?
I screwed up and just say, you know, to interject here,
Epstein and Maxwell were super racist, absolute racist pieces of shit,
and the things they said about people were just vile,
absolutely vile. Question how did you know you screwed up? Answer?
He doesn't like black women obviously. Question so he let
you know he told you that. Answer Yeah, but he
was still nice and he still gave her two hundred
even though he didn't have a massage buyer. Question how
did he he paid you two hundred for bringing each girl? Answer?
Uh huh. Question and when he told you that, I
mean that's what he told you that he would pay
you two hundred for bringing the girls. Answer yeah, he
said if you bring me, if you bring me girls,
I'll definitely, you know, give you money, compensate you for
your time and willing to do that for me. Yeah.
Question And you said, at that point you stop performing
massages for him? Answer at that point, I didn't. It
would be sporadically like usually I had so many girlfriends
at the time, you know, there were so many new
faces that he saw, and if one was available, then
redacted would go question, I gotcha. Question, do you know
some of the girls that you brought some of their names? Answer?
I don't remember. Really, there were not even my friends.
They were just associates, you know, if anything, they'd be
friends of friends. So no question we have. I don't know.
We have some messages. I guess that some girls' names
that will call Jeffrey and leave a message. There are
some girls' names that are referenced. We were just wondering
if you knew them. Answer, if you name them, I
can probably remember. Ms. Villa Fauna, Jason, do you have that?
Richard's question redacted as one answer, I don't know. Redacted.
Do you know her last name? Villa Fauna. We were
hoping you did, the witness. No, I don't agent Richards
question redacted answer redacted, No, that sounds like a black
girl's name. Question, well, you brought a black girl, was
that her name? Answer? I don't know, don't ask me
question redacted answer redacted, redacted, Yeah, I brought redacted. Question
who is she tell us about? Redacted answer? Redacted. Well,
we just look alike. If that's the girl I'm thinking about.
We went to school together and I brought her one time,
and then she ended up moving so she couldn't come
with me. Question were you guys in the same grade
or answer? No, she was older than me. Question a
year or two? Answer she was. Actually she was like eighteen.
I don't know she was older. She was like, you know,
two ranks, two grades ahead of me. Question so when
you were a sophomore she was a senior? Answer I
just met her in school and I told her Villa fauna.
Question what was her name? Answer? I don't know? Agent
Richards question do you know where she lived? Answer? I
just met her at school and I told her about it.
When you told her about it at school? Is that
where your discussion was? Answer well, I said give me
your number. I said, we can make a couple of dollars.
It's real easy, and if you're comfortable with it, give
me a call. Question was that at school or at
a party? Answer? No, at school. Question at school? You're
not sure her last name and what it was? Answer
I have no idea. Question do you know where she
lives or anything like that? What kind of car she drove.
Answer no. Question what did she look like? Answer what
she looked like? Question yeah? Answer like me everything, blonde hair,
blue eyes. Question we're talking about redacted? You were at
redacted high school at the time? Answer no, I was
out redacted? Question redacted? Okay, answer and that's where redacted
went to school. Question what about a girl name redacted? Answer? Who?
Agent Richards? Question did you bring a redacted? Answer? I
brought a couple of redacteds. Question I want to know
about everyone you brought. Well, one of them died recently,
so question what was her name? In a car accident
or something? Answer? No, she died. Unfortunately, she got shot
in the head. You guys probably heard it on the news.
She got shot in the head by this guy. I
don't even want to talk about it because i'll cry
ms Villa fauna. Question let's talk about the other redacted?
Answer I don't even know. I don't know. I don't know.
There were some girls that I just would take one
time and then I would never talk to again, So
I don't know. Question how many girls do you think
you brought to Jeffrey's house? Answer that's a good question.
I bring a lot like maybe I don't know, maybe thirty,
maybe thirty. It was all about the money to me
at that time. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up
right here, and in the next episode we're gonna pick
up where we left off. All of the information that
goes with this episode can be found in the description box.