1 00:00:17,719 --> 00:00:20,359 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,760 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,600 Federalist and your experience shirpa on today's Quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,440 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,719 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,119 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,359 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:44,039 --> 00:00:47,600 Our guest today is Laura Trump, daughter in law of 9 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:52,200 President Donald Trump, former co chair of the Republican National Committee, 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,200 and world class crooner. I might add, thank you so 11 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,759 much for joining us onkind. 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,479 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. I'm excited to be here. 13 00:01:02,799 --> 00:01:06,599 Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, let's begin with the crooning. I saw a 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,319 just quite a performance the other night at the Trump 15 00:01:12,519 --> 00:01:15,040 family get together for New Year's Eve with a lot 16 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,200 of good friends, and you entertained the crowd. Is this 17 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:20,959 the next chapter for Laura Trump? 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: By the way, Well, I know there would be a 19 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,439 lot of folks on the left who are my biggest 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,079 fans whenever I do musical endeavors, who would be very 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,040 excited if I said yes to that. Look, it's really 22 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,560 funny because I grew up playing the piano. I've always 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,400 been very into music and I love the arts in 24 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:44,760 all different forms. And someone said to me about a 25 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:46,760 year and a half ago, would you ever play the 26 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,079 piano on a cover song? And I said sure? And 27 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,280 they said, well, you wouldn't never sing a cover song, 28 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:54,920 would you? And I said, well, sure, somebody gave me 29 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,840 the opportunity, so they did, and honestly, Matt, it's been 30 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,439 really fun to do that, and it's kind of led 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,840 me to a whole new area and a whole new 32 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,959 group of people that I otherwise probably never would have met. 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,560 And I had path I never would have taken, so 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,400 I've enjoyed it. And they asked me if I would 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,439 surprise my father in law after he walked in the 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,800 room on New Year's Eve at Mar A Lago with 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,960 a little rendition of Tom Petty's I won't back down. Yes, 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,759 we all know he didn't back down, and so we 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,199 had a fun time. But no, I have an announcement 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,280 I'll be making shortly after the inauguration that is not 41 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:37,280 specific to singing or anything musical, but you'll be seeing 42 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:38,960 a lot more of me. I will say that and 43 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,639 tease it a little bit excellent. 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,599 Speaker 1: Well, I know I have some Federalist colleagues that would 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,479 like to see more of you on the music front, 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,719 but I know demands pull you in a lot of 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,840 different directions. And you talk about a song, you're absolutely right, 48 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:59,159 that represents Donald Trump, his persistence, his commitment to making 49 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:02,680 America great again. I can't think of another song that 50 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,080 fills fits that bill quite like I won't back down. 51 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:09,840 He certainly didn't when he stood up and said fight, 52 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,319 fight fight in Butler, Pennsylvania, after a lunatic tried to 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,919 take his life, he didn't quit. After all of the 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,199 law fair the political prosecutions, he kept going and he 55 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,960 said that, you know, they're really basically I'm just in 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,039 the way. That's the kind of approach that he has 57 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,840 taken to that I can only imagine that you and 58 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:39,479 Trump family members have to have that kind of tough skin, 59 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:44,680 an incredible tough skin, as you navigate through the political 60 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:48,520 process in America and have navigated through over the last 61 00:03:48,719 --> 00:03:50,280 eight plus years in this country. 62 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,439 Speaker 2: Oh well, there's no doubt about that. And I actually, 63 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:56,680 you know, people reference it as having a tough skin, 64 00:03:56,759 --> 00:03:59,280 but I actually kind of feel like we've all developed 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,199 a bit of a tough skin or callous, you know, 66 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,199 because it's funny, the first time any of us really 67 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:11,800 understood kind of how intense it might get. It was 68 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,759 a lot, you know, those first couple of weeks after 69 00:04:14,919 --> 00:04:18,279 Donald Trump announced he was running for president in twenty fifteen. 70 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,040 People got very aggressive. It got very heated, very quickly. 71 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,439 And I actually don't think any of us in the family, 72 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:27,439 if we were all being honest, would say we anticipated 73 00:04:27,439 --> 00:04:29,800 things getting as crazy as they got, at least that 74 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:33,079 first run. And it really is like the hits never 75 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,680 stopped coming, you know, every step of the way. It 76 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:39,160 seems like, certainly Donald Trump, but all of us in 77 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,759 the family have been held to a standard that's very different, 78 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,360 much higher than anyone else, and we all do our 79 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:48,879 best to be great citizens and good people and do 80 00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:51,199 the right thing, and you know, so much so that 81 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,519 you look at things like the fact that the Trump 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,800 Organization during my father in law's first term in office, 83 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:00,959 made sure that any money they received be a foreign 84 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:04,600 entity was donated back to the United States Treasury. So 85 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:07,560 you had people coming in from other countries staying at 86 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,439 the Trump DC Hotel. Who would you know, go get 87 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:12,120 a drink at the bar, and that money went back 88 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,879 to the US Treasury. Now no one ever got any 89 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:16,720 credit for that. But we went above and beyond anything 90 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:18,839 that was required to make sure there wasn't even the 91 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:21,680 faintest hint of impropriety. And what did we get for that? 92 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,399 Absolutely nothing. You got, mar A Lago rated you got, 93 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,920 as you just mentioned, law Fair against Donald Trump. You 94 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:32,120 have seen things happen to this man that one of 95 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,639 them alone would be enough to destroy any regular person. 96 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:38,639 But I think we all kind of have looked to 97 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:41,839 him as our guide, and you know, he is so 98 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:44,759 strong in the face of so much, and he has 99 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:48,279 stood as just this steady person throughout all of it. 100 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:51,399 And a lot of times people would ask us specifically 101 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:53,639 during the time of all the law Fair, you know, 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,519 are you guys worried? Are you concerned? And of course 103 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,560 you're always concerned when someone you care about as being 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,160 wrongfully dragged through the mud and having all of these 105 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,360 things thrown his way like he had. But it's funny 106 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:09,639 because I almost looked at him as a bit of 107 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,519 like a flight attendant on a plane where you hit 108 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 some turbulence. Everybody looks at the flight attendant and if 109 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,279 the flight attendant is calm and relaxed, then everybody on 110 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:19,079 the plane is generally like, Okay, things are going to 111 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,680 be fine. He never once seemed like he was nervous, Matt, 112 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,199 He never once seemed like he was concerned that anything 113 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,839 but the right thing and the right outcome would happen here. 114 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:30,800 And so I think we all took a page from 115 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,519 his playbook and we said, if he's not concerned, then 116 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:35,160 we're not going to be concerned, and we're all going 117 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,800 to fight together, face forward, keep marching on. And obviously 118 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,399 we are so proud and so excited about the result 119 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:43,879 we got on November fifth, And it could not have 120 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:46,759 felt better to know that the American people not only 121 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,759 understood that he's the right choice to be president, but 122 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,560 didn't fall for the lies, didn't fall for the hoaxes, 123 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,199 didn't fall for any of it. So I think i'd 124 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,680 say that we've all probably taken our notes directly from 125 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,560 dot Trump when it comes to how to deal with 126 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,000 all of this. 127 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,759 Speaker 1: But how Laura, how I mean, this is amazing to me, 128 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,040 It really is. It is a testament to the human spirit. 129 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:13,160 You know, the strength of the human spirit. And I 130 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,759 don't know of too many other people. You know, personally, 131 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,560 I've been blessed to know some really good people that 132 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,279 could stand up against things, but you know, most of 133 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 us would wither under that kind of pressure. You mentioned 134 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:28,839 the flight attendant. You know, I've been on some heavy 135 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:31,800 turbulence flights and I've looked at the flight attendant, a 136 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,959 flight attendant who's been calm, and I asked the same question, 137 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:37,639 how do you remain calm during all of this? Now, 138 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,839 put all of that in perspective of, you know, the 139 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,360 international spotlight that your father in law has been under, 140 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 I would have to assume, as I've seen it over 141 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:54,639 the last several years, that faith has played an increasingly 142 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,000 more important role in this president's life, in his family's life. 143 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: Well, you'd be one hundred percent correct on that. I mean, 144 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,480 I think, first of all, you know, when you know 145 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,439 the truth and you know the reality and that the 146 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:13,759 things being alleged against you are are false, and you 147 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,439 have to have faith. I think that the right thing happens, 148 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:18,519 that the truth comes out. I always have believed that 149 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,560 the truth would come out on all fronts about everything. 150 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,040 But I think specifically having a relationship with God and 151 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,959 having faith that he will see us through. Has been 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,879 something that certainly my father in law I think has 153 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:37,240 turned to maybe more so now than ever, and I 154 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,600 think especially in the wake of what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania. 155 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,440 You know, he's always been a religious person, he's always 156 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:48,039 always had a relationship with God. But there is no 157 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:50,679 doubt that this man is still standing and that he'll 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,440 be our forty seventh president because God decided that this 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,639 was the person to do it and spared his life 160 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,799 in a field in Pennsylvania on July thirteenth of this 161 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,840 past year. And he'll be the first to tell you 162 00:09:04,879 --> 00:09:08,399 that himself. And I don't think you go through and 163 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,320 experience like he did, where you come within a millimeter 164 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,759 of losing your life and not come out on the 165 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:19,039 other side slightly changed by it. And I think after that, 166 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,440 you know, I did notice an even stronger connection that 167 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,919 he had with God and even you know, more engaged faith. 168 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:31,159 It's a beautiful thing to see. And I think for 169 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,120 me personally, that's been something that I've relied heavily on. 170 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,919 You know, I pray every night, Eric and I pray 171 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,519 with our kids every night. That's something that's that we've 172 00:09:40,519 --> 00:09:44,519 always done as a family, and I think it really 173 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,879 is something that has seen us all through because, quite frankly, 174 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:50,840 when you don't know what's going to happen next, you 175 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:52,480 do have to have that faith, and you have to 176 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,480 ask God to show you the right path and to 177 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:58,399 ensure that the light shines in all the dark places. 178 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:00,360 And I'll tell you what he has. He has already 179 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:02,720 started shining light in a lot of dark places. And 180 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:05,120 I actually believe over the next i want to say, 181 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:07,519 six months to a year, you're going to see a 182 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:09,679 lot of light shone in a lot of places that 183 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,080 probably have needed it for a long time. And I'm 184 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,799 personally very excited about all of that. 185 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: I think the vast majority of America is too, even 186 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,639 some of those on the left, if you ask them 187 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:22,679 and they give you an honest answer. I don't want 188 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,320 to be labor the point, but it's something that I 189 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:30,600 felt during the week of the Republican National Convention. I 190 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,559 was there in Milwaukee. I saw your father in law 191 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,080 walk in, just like everybody else, but you know, there 192 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,840 I was near the convention floor and watching this man 193 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:43,960 with the bandaged ear. You know again, you could feel 194 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,840 and I talked to the delegates. I talked to so 195 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:48,360 many the thousands of people who were there, so many 196 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,120 of them, and they all had the same feeling that 197 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,120 there was something bigger than all of us in Pennsylvania 198 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,600 that day, and it carried right through into that convention. 199 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,559 You were there, or take me to that time period 200 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:05,840 for you and for the Trump family. 201 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you recall, the Monday of that convention 202 00:11:12,279 --> 00:11:16,120 was just forty eight hours after the incident in Butler. Yeah, 203 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:19,879 and you know, truthfully, my father in law wasn't planning 204 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,320 to come to the convention until probably Wednesday, is what 205 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:26,039 he had told all of us at the RNC. He 206 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,639 was originally planning, And so it was sort of incredible. 207 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:32,679 I'll tell you. One of the things that impressed me 208 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,799 so much was that we, of course, as a family, 209 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:39,759 watched this happen in real time, this assassination attempt. Eric 210 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:41,519 and I had the TV on at our house. I 211 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,399 was actually getting dinner ready for my kids, and I 212 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,879 looked up one moment because my daughter goes, oh, look 213 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:50,879 who's on TV. It's Grandpa. And I looked down. I 214 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:53,120 was peeling a carrot, and when I looked up again, 215 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,000 he was no longer in front of the podium and 216 00:11:57,039 --> 00:11:58,679 I looked and I saw him on the ground, and 217 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,120 I knew immediately something was wrong. And my husband was 218 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:04,320 in the other room with the TV on started calling 219 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,879 me in there. I hold onto that carrot and that 220 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,720 peeler for about forty five minutes before I realized it 221 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:12,519 was in my hand. Was obviously yeah, I was in 222 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,159 such shock. He called us about I'm going to say 223 00:12:17,159 --> 00:12:19,799 it was like two hours after this all happened. He 224 00:12:19,879 --> 00:12:22,639 was in the hospital. They were treating him there, and 225 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,000 you know, that was the first time we I think 226 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:27,879 breathed a sigh of relief because you just don't know. 227 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:29,480 You know, people can tell you all the ground, oh 228 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:32,240 everything's fine. Somebody initially told us he had a bloody 229 00:12:32,279 --> 00:12:35,399 nose or something, and I said, I don't think that's right. 230 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,840 You could tell there was something much bigger at play. 231 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:41,919 And so when we spoke to him, immediately, I knew 232 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:44,600 he was okay because he started, you know, kind of 233 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,799 being a little joking, and that's his personality. He loves 234 00:12:47,799 --> 00:12:49,799 to joke. He's one of the funniest people I've ever met. 235 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:52,519 But he said when we talked to him a couple 236 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,120 hours later that he was planning to go the next 237 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,480 day and fly to Milwaukee, Wisconsin for the convention on Sunday. 238 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:04,600 And I said, Wow, this man has just survived a 239 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,320 near death experience and he is going to go earlier 240 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,360 than anticipated to Wisconsin for the convention. And so of 241 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,960 course we scrambled around the R and C. We Toltdal 242 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,759 the whole team of the convention. You guys have to 243 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:23,000 get ready because he's coming early. And so obviously we 244 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:26,159 as a family felt a certain way. But I think 245 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:30,039 I share the same sentiments as every person who happened 246 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,759 to be in that arena the night when he walked in. 247 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:37,960 I mean, it was incredibly emotional, and I remember the 248 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,120 look on his face. He was emotional. And I've known 249 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Donald Trump for sixteen years. I have but a handful 250 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,120 of times seen him look like he looked when he 251 00:13:49,159 --> 00:13:54,799 walked in that convention hall, and it was incredible. The 252 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:59,440 emotion in that room was so powerful, and I think 253 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,759 we all felt lt that there was a much bigger 254 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:06,039 presence than just those of us here on earth that 255 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,919 was there with us in that arena in Milwaukee, Wisconsin 256 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,360 that night. I get chills actually right now talking to 257 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:16,879 you about it, because it was really powerful. 258 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: This is Mollie Hemingway encouraging you to listen to my 259 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,960 favorite podcast, Issues, etc. Every day you get in depth 260 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,120 interviews with host Todd Wilkin, asking expert guests substantive thought 261 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,759 provoking questions on all of the important news and issues 262 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:43,120 of our day. The expert guests are in culture, law, ethics, philosophy, theology, 263 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:49,200 and apologetics. Expert guests expansive topics, always extolling Christ issues, 264 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:49,879 et cetera. 265 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And I'll tell you when I 266 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,039 first saw him on the monitors at the pfifser for 267 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,840 him in Milwaukee, what I saw was a guy who 268 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:08,480 understood the moment, who felt the moment, was living the moment, 269 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,279 understood the moment. I saw a prize fighter walking into 270 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,799 the ring, and I thought, look out, Jake. 271 00:15:14,679 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: Paul, look out. They should have sucked Donald Trump and 272 00:15:19,399 --> 00:15:21,679 for Mike Tyson. As it turns out, I think so. 273 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: I think that would have been a better battle. But 274 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,200 he carried that. Of course, there were a lot of 275 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,840 people I talked to in conservative grassroots circles and they 276 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:35,840 told me they said, Matt that moment, and Butler carried 277 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:42,240 into the GOP convention that time has just sealed the deal. 278 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Donald Trump will be the forty seventh president of the 279 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:47,120 United States. Did you think that at that point as 280 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,399 co chair of the it's Hardial Committee. Yeah. 281 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: It's hard as co chair because I can't take anything 282 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,720 for granted. And I never wanted to. You know, I 283 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:57,080 wasn't going to be the Trump who people look back 284 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,720 and they said, well, she's the one who lost the 285 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:01,759 election because she got too confident, or they thought that 286 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,159 they had enough lawyers, or they didn't need to watch 287 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,600 something over here. But I felt it too, because I 288 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,639 was getting information from so many people who would say, 289 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:15,759 I just talked to a friend of mine, this is 290 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:17,720 a person who is not a Trump fan, and they 291 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:20,879 just said, I'm absolutely voting for this man. You know, 292 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,200 it's more than that he just survived. It's that in 293 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,519 the moment, whenever you are you can really tell the 294 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,279 character of a person and what they're made of, whenever 295 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,360 they're in the heat of a moment like that. His 296 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:38,559 instinct was not for himself, it was for the rest 297 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,039 of us. He got up on that stage, raised his 298 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,120 fist and yelled fight, fight, fight, not for himself, but 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,200 because he looked in the eyes of the people. As 300 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,879 he laid on the ground there while they were trying 301 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:53,320 to contain this shooter. He looked in their eyes and 302 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,840 he said, oh, my gosh, these people think that I'm 303 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,200 going to die. They think that I've been gravely wounded here. 304 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:03,279 And for them, for the people watching at home, for 305 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:06,039 our allies around the world who are watching this, think 306 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:09,640 about how this would have changed our country forever. He said, 307 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,440 I got to get up and I have to let 308 00:17:11,519 --> 00:17:14,799 them know I'm okay. And it was just an instinct 309 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,240 and for so many people who really, over the past 310 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:22,720 four years have just been really horrified by the weakness 311 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:26,680 that the American the administration of Joe Biden has exuded 312 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,440 for the United States of America, it's so refreshing to 313 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,559 see somebody get up and be strong and stand firm 314 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:38,599 and tell you that he's okay. And I think that 315 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:42,240 that really did change a lot for a lot of people. 316 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,680 I think it's something that probably made the Democrats very 317 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,920 nervous to see that Donald Trump had that instinct to 318 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,480 do that. I'm going to argue that it's probably the 319 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,440 reason that they after that debate, of course, and then 320 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,839 coupled with this incident, they said, well, we got to 321 00:17:59,839 --> 00:18:03,079 get Joe Biden out of here. That's it. But yeah, 322 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,599 I think it did change the way that I thought 323 00:18:05,599 --> 00:18:09,640 about it personally. Then again, I couldn't I couldn't count 324 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,279 on that as the R and C coachair. I had 325 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:14,200 to always assume we were, you know, forty points behind, 326 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,680 and we got to play every second of the game 327 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:16,559 until it's done. 328 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Oh you sure did that. And I want to get 329 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,839 into that in just a moment. But just to put 330 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:24,759 a finer point on all of this, even Mark Zuckerberg, 331 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,960 who spent a lot of time and a lot of 332 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,720 money trying to beat Donald Trump in twenty twenty, certainly 333 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:35,359 suppressed a lot of conservative speech supporters of Donald Trump 334 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,400 for a good long period of time. You know, quite frankly, 335 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,920 I think there's a lot of that's still going on today. 336 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,119 Even he said, when Donald Trump got up on that 337 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,079 stage and you'll fight, fight, fight, he said, now, that's badass. 338 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and a lot of people agree with him. 339 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do as well, And you're right, I 340 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,839 think that was an image that will forever be in 341 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:06,039 the minds of Americans. Speaking of your work and what 342 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,480 the Republican National Committee did this year, it was a 343 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,200 historic year of success. And as I covered it at 344 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,960 the Federalist, in my colleagues on the elections team, what 345 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:25,160 we saw was first and foremost a party working with 346 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:33,759 conservative grassroots organizations that was very committed to going all in. 347 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,160 And that began with something that I think was absolutely essential. 348 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,480 And you were at the center of that. That was 349 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:45,720 to convince your father in law that absentee early voting 350 00:19:46,079 --> 00:19:49,759 was absolutely essential when he had no reason to have 351 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:52,599 any faith in that. After twenty twenty, How did you 352 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,079 do that? 353 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,039 Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to take all the credit for but 354 00:19:56,279 --> 00:20:00,319 I certainly cannot. I think, Look, it was it was 355 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:05,640 a process, and I think coming out of twenty twenty, 356 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:11,079 Donald Trump, probably more so than anyone, was very upset 357 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,839 obviously about the result and attributed a lot of that 358 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:19,119 to the mail in ballots. Now you look at twenty twenty, 359 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,680 that was a very different election. There were election laws 360 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,759 that were changed illegally in so many states, there was 361 00:20:24,839 --> 00:20:28,240 mail ballot usage like we'd never seen before, and of 362 00:20:28,279 --> 00:20:31,599 course all of it was due to COVID nineteen. That said, 363 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,519 you know, whenever you kind of step back and you 364 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:38,200 look at the way we conduct elections in the United states, 365 00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:41,720 I will say they're not perfect. In my perfect world, 366 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,519 we would have one day of voting, we would have 367 00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:45,599 voter ide all across the country, and we would have 368 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:48,799 paper ballots. Maybe it's a federal holiday so everybody can 369 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,599 get a chance to be off of work and go vote. 370 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,720 But we don't have that system. And the truth is, 371 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:55,920 you have an election season now. So if we have 372 00:20:56,079 --> 00:20:59,400 several weeks where the Democrats are able to gain such 373 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,920 a lead on us with the early vote, with the 374 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,640 mail and vote, and we're not capitalizing on that ourselves, 375 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:09,400 then we're basically going to lose. You know, it's going 376 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,400 to be a really tough delta to make up once 377 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,839 you get to election day, and that's a tough one 378 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:18,440 to overcome. So I think there were a lot of 379 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,480 us who were in his ear consistently reminding him of 380 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,440 that very fact and telling him that we also can't 381 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,319 be the ones who are saying, oh, well, you know 382 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,720 it's never been done that. We've done things like ballot harvesting, 383 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,880 and you know that's not a very Republican way to operate. 384 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,680 We've never done that. From the R and C. We said, no, 385 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,400 every legal avenue we have, we need to be using 386 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,240 in this election, including ballot harvesting everywhere it's legal, making 387 00:21:48,319 --> 00:21:51,680 sure that we are capitalizing on that early vote, the 388 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,559 mail in vote, and so we finally all I think 389 00:21:54,599 --> 00:21:58,119 after hearing from us ad nauseum, probably so many of us, 390 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,839 I think he started to really understand and appreciate it. 391 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:03,680 And one of the ways I think that he truly 392 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:06,519 was convinced was when we talked about and I talked 393 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:09,960 about this a lot to ensure that people understood out 394 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,599 there who were going to go out and vote why 395 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,559 they needed to go vote early. Whenever we said, listen, 396 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,440 we are able to see whenever somebody goes and votes, 397 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,480 whenever your vote is cast and you have actually completed 398 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,519 the process, then we can take those people off of 399 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:27,880 our list. We don't need to spend any money or 400 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,920 resources to turn them out to vote anymore. We can 401 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,319 then apply our money in a better way, which is 402 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,799 to go after the low propensity voters convince these people 403 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,599 to come out and vote. We want the people we 404 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,279 know are our steady base to get out and vote early, 405 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,920 and let's let us use that time and money that 406 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,400 we have in the lead up to election day to 407 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,079 get the low propensity voters out, then you really do 408 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,519 swamp the vote, then you really do make it too 409 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:58,240 big to rig. And I think after you know, hearing 410 00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:01,559 this time after time, he started to appreciate that, and 411 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:04,960 I do think it was one of the reasons that 412 00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:09,440 we were incredibly successful in this election. But the second 413 00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:13,559 he put a post up that said voting on election day, 414 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,200 voting by mail, or voting early in person are all 415 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,200 great ways to vote, I said, well, that's it. We 416 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,839 have our directive from the guy at the top, and 417 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,559 we can take that out to our electorate and convince 418 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,599 them as well. And that's exactly what we tried to do. 419 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Indeed, our guest today is Laura Trump, daughter in law 420 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,079 of President Donald Trump, former co chair of the Republican 421 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,119 National Committee, and musician extraordinaire. Glad to have her. Delighted 422 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,440 to have her on this edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. 423 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,839 I did a lot of reporting on low propensity voters. 424 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,880 That's a term that a lot of Americans may not 425 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,160 be familiar with. It means that these are voters who rarely, 426 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:02,000 if at all, vote, and the RNC groups like the 427 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:07,880 Sentinel Action Fund and there were others along the way. 428 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,359 But I remember talking to these organizations how committed they were. 429 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,559 They had the resources to do it, but they really 430 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:23,920 really reached out to these lower turnout voters and that 431 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:28,319 made a huge difference, particularly in the swing states. How 432 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,839 long had you been talking about this in talking to 433 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,440 some of the grassroots organizations on this front. It's something 434 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,359 that they saw to full effect in twenty twenty two 435 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,920 in the state of Florida, and they saw it work 436 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,039 there they thought they could take the plan nationally. How 437 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:50,000 long have you been talking about this process? 438 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:54,039 Speaker 2: Well, I mean to be honest, I fully started talking 439 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:56,599 about it once I took the position of co chair, 440 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:01,480 which was in March of this past year, and we 441 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:03,720 knew there wasn't a lot of time. Michael Wattley and 442 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:06,519 I whenever we took our positions as chair and co chair, 443 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,440 we said, you know, we really have eight months until 444 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:13,039 the most critical and consequential election of our lifetime. There's 445 00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:15,680 a lot of work to do. And one of the 446 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,680 things that I thought was important, you know, you talk 447 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,559 about the grassroots, and I don't think you can overstate 448 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,039 how big a role the grassroots played in this election. 449 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,400 People like Scott Presler, his group is called Early Vote action. 450 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,720 You know, traditionally, the R and C had been very 451 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,599 hesitant to reach out to a lot of these people, 452 00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:39,799 and having just you know, been there since March myself, 453 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,960 I don't really know why, but I know that I 454 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:47,559 had been. I'd had many conversations with Scott Presler, and 455 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,079 I thought that he had the exact same ideas that 456 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,839 we did at the R and C. And we can't 457 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,839 do it all alone, you know. We need people like 458 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,880 Turning Point, we need early vote action, we need all 459 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,920 of these grassroots organisations to assist us. And we did 460 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,759 have an FEC ruling that allowed us to coordinate slightly 461 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,640 more closely with those groups this election versus previous elections, 462 00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:16,359 and we use that to our advantage. So in every 463 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,839 legal way we could, we said we're going to coordinate, 464 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,440 We're going to partner with these people. And I think 465 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,240 it was on my second week, maybe my first week 466 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,680 at the RNC, that I brought Scott Presler in and 467 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,640 we sat down and we talked about our plan and 468 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:34,400 our strategy. And I really cannot again overstate how big 469 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,880 a role all these groups played, because look, the R 470 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,119 and C can't be everywhere all the time. And I 471 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,319 think that that was part of the problem. Previously, the 472 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,599 R and C tried to be too many things all 473 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,359 the time to too many people, and Michael Wattley and 474 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,920 I said, we are going to have to pare it 475 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,319 down and we're going to have to focus on three things, 476 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,200 having a world class convention, which I believe we did. 477 00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,759 One of the reasons why is because Donald Trump showed 478 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:02,960 up on Monday. Making sure that we get out the 479 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:06,119 vote and making sure that we protect the ballot. Those 480 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,759 were the three things we wanted to work on. And 481 00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:13,200 having partners out there who were working in line with 482 00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:15,480 us and on the same page with us was so 483 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,720 instrumental in this win. And so I mean, I think 484 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:21,599 I would say from day one, you know, Chairman Wattley 485 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:23,440 and I understood that this was what we're going to 486 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:26,640 have to do, and we hit the ground running, and 487 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:30,559 we took, you know, no time to dilly dally. We 488 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,279 got things done, and obviously we're very proud of the result. 489 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: And the result has been a clear success. Up and 490 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:40,240 down the line. You know, you get not only the 491 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:45,440 election of Donald Trump to the to be the forty 492 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,920 seventh President of the United States. As I like to say, Laura, 493 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,599 he Grover, did it. He's the twenty first century Glover Cleveland. 494 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,279 Of course, yes, But not only do you have that, 495 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,359 you have now return of republic control of the Senate. 496 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,759 You have maintained control, although razor thin margin, that's for sure, 497 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Republicans in the House. So this, this provides an excellent opportunity. 498 00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:15,440 And it all happened with the r n C again, 499 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,599 as you mentioned, working with these grassroots organizations. It's funny 500 00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:25,839 because that that change of of law, if you will, 501 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,160 election law was something that the Democrats had had pushed 502 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,319 for the likes of Mark Elias. They're they're lamenting that decision. 503 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure mark Elias specifically, yes, very much so probably, 504 00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:43,000 but you know what that was. It's funny because I 505 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:46,160 hear a lot of knocks of the you know, the 506 00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:49,440 former team at the r n C. And I will 507 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,359 never be in the business of doing that because I 508 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,279 can only comment on what I've done while I've been there. Sure, 509 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:58,640 and obviously we're proud of it all. But you know, 510 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,079 it's funny because because I think sometimes getting fresh eyes 511 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,079 on things is great, it's a good thing, and we 512 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,440 certainly we certainly did things differently than they'd done in 513 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,640 the past, and I think that things will continue to 514 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,079 function differently at the RNC. I think we learned a 515 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,119 lot of hard lessons in twenty twenty and we tried 516 00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:23,119 to apply those hard lessons and learn from them in 517 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,599 this past election. And you know, the Democrats certainly are 518 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,200 probably very upset about things. Unfortunately for them, Matt, I 519 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,359 don't know that they learned very much. We'll see as 520 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,119 we head forward. 521 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,319 Speaker 1: I'm so sad they're upset about things. 522 00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:41,599 Speaker 2: Oh it's such a shame, it. 523 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,319 Speaker 1: Really is, you know. But you're the model now what 524 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,799 you're able to accomplish, you know. I hear it. I've 525 00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:49,599 heard ad nauseam, and there was a good deal of 526 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,240 truth of it that, you know, the leftist in America 527 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,000 for elections were setting the model on how to win 528 00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:01,440 elections because they were they where you said it before. 529 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,440 You got to play the game as it is, not 530 00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:07,720 as how you want it to be, so you got 531 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,720 to be realistic about it. But I talked to Matt 532 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:13,960 batesl over at American Majority the other day. They're using 533 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:16,720 this model and they were doing the low propensity stuff 534 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,440 as well, but they're using that model as they quickly 535 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,519 turn around and have in the state of Wisconsin and 536 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,519 are looking at a very important Supreme Court election there 537 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:29,279 that will determine whether leftist or conservatives control that court. 538 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,839 So this is the model moving forward. What the other 539 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,440 area that you mentioned that was a huge accomplishment and 540 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:40,920 I think really set some people's some voters' minds at ease, 541 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,799 and that was you had a team of people committed 542 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,720 to making sure that the kind of leftist law fare 543 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,960 that was pushed in twenty twenty had an answer, and 544 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,759 a very powerful answer at that with your election Integrity team. 545 00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:00,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was one of the big pillar of 546 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:04,440 what we did. Look, it was important that we go 547 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,880 really above and beyond anything that we even thought was 548 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,559 necessary for a couple of reasons. There were so many 549 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,240 people coming out of twenty twenty who just didn't trust 550 00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:18,039 our electoral process. And everywhere I went I would hear 551 00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:20,720 the same thing. People would say, you know, we feel 552 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,839 like Donald Trump is going to win, we feel like 553 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,880 there's so much great momentum behind him, but aren't they 554 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,759 going to cheat? How do you stop them from cheating? 555 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,440 And it was something every single time I traveled somewhere 556 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,079 I would hear And so we had to do it 557 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,839 so that not only if there was any cheating we 558 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:41,920 would stop it. We could help hold people accountable who 559 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160 were doing things that may have been nefarious, but we 560 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,000 also had to make sure that it was worth people's 561 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:50,480 time to come out and vote. It was worth people's 562 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:54,599 time in Butler County, Pennsylvania to come out and stand 563 00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:58,119 in line, some of them for six hours to vote 564 00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,920 in this election. If you don't think your vote is 565 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,960 going to matter, or your vote's going to count, then 566 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,920 you're not going to go take your time away from 567 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,680 your family, your busy schedule, your job, whatever it is, 568 00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:10,680 to go stand in line and cast your vote in 569 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,640 an election. So we started this process by saying, Okay, 570 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,359 we're going to recruit a bunch of volunteers. We're going 571 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960 to put a very lofty goal of one hundred thousand 572 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,480 volunteers that we're going to try to recruit to be 573 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,480 pole watchers, poll workers, and legal experts to have in 574 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,200 every swing state across the country in all the major 575 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,960 polling locations, to ensure that if anything goes wrong, we've 576 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,680 taught them what they need to do, and we can 577 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,319 attack and deal with problems as they happen, not wait days, 578 00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:41,960 weeks or months later we saw it happen in twenty twenty. 579 00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,200 We thought one hundred thousand people was a lot to 580 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160 kind of put out there into the universe. We at 581 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,720 the end of this Matt recruited two hundred and thirty 582 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,519 thousand people to be pole watchers and poll workers and 583 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,400 sixty five hundred attorneys across the country, and we dealt 584 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440 with somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty thousand different issues 585 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,359 starting on the first day of early voting all the 586 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,440 way through the last vote being tallied on election night. 587 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,519 So obviously it worked in terms of encouraging people to 588 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,279 come out and vote because they thought that we were 589 00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:17,440 watching things, and then as they were happening anything anywhere, 590 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,799 it could be the most obscure machine in an obscure 591 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,599 county that we're not worried about in the middle of Kentucky. 592 00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:26,920 But I wanted to make sure that we were talking 593 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,000 and communicating with the American people, and so any issue 594 00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:33,279 we dealt with, if we saw it on X and 595 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:35,279 people were talking to us about it, Michael Wattley and 596 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:37,359 I were responding, we had our team on it. We 597 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,119 had people check it out, and we made sure that 598 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,079 we updated people in real time as it was happening, 599 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,200 and clearly it was something that I think we had 600 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,119 to do, and I don't think we can take our 601 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,680 foot off the gas on this. You know, you're going 602 00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,400 to have a midterm coming up in twenty six, another 603 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240 presidential election in twenty eight, and unfortunately, I think we're 604 00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,880 going to have to continue operating this way unless there's 605 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,079 some major sweeping change to our electoral process, because this 606 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,000 was what was necessary in order to confirm and convince 607 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:12,199 people that there was no funny business in this election. 608 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 4: Cutting the deficit seems simple, It's just not easy. The 609 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,360 Watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every 610 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,159 day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the 611 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,039 economy and how it affects your wallet, Like dieting or 612 00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,599 saving money. Cutting the deficit is simple, it's just not easy. 613 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,960 Cutting the deficit is not so much about cutting personnel. 614 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,039 It's about cutting the money they hand out. Whether it's 615 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,239 happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting 616 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,920 you financially. 617 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,519 Speaker 1: Be informed. 618 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 4: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 619 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,719 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 620 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: Well, you know, the Federalist editor in chief that wrote 621 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,360 the book, literally wrote the book on what happened in 622 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,400 twenty twenty, the rigged twenty twenty election. And you know, 623 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,119 we we can disagree on just how deep the rigging went, 624 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,400 but there's no doubt about there were shenanigans played, there 625 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,840 were laws broken. I reported on that in Wisconsin and 626 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,599 Michigan and some other swing states. We know what happened. 627 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,639 But now take a look at this, Laura, take a 628 00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:21,840 look at the Pew Research Center, certainly not a bastion 629 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,440 of conservative thought. They put together a survey where they 630 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,159 spoke to I believe it was somewhere around ten thousand 631 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,440 voters after the election. Ninety five percent of those voters 632 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,679 believe that the elections in their communities were administered and 633 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,119 handled well. Eighty eight percent believe that way Nationally. What 634 00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:51,159 a difference four years and a lot of people make huh. 635 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's actually the first I've heard of those numbers, 636 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,000 and it certainly makes me proud is RTC co chair, 637 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:01,239 to hear those numbers. And it's not because, by the way, 638 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,480 the Democrats did anything. Do you know, the entire the 639 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,119 entire time that Michael Wattley and I were chairing co chair. 640 00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,880 We continued to reach out to the DNC and say, 641 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,559 if you guys want to join us in our pursuit 642 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,719 of election integrity, we would love to have you come 643 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,679 join us in this because we didn't just do it 644 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000 for Republicans, we did it for all Americans. Because I 645 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:24,199 don't care if you're voting Republican, Democrat, or third party candidate, 646 00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,400 if you are voting in the United States of America, 647 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,079 you should feel like when you go vote in our elections, 648 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,519 your vote matters, in your vote counts. And we're still 649 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,559 waiting how many two months nearly after the election, to 650 00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:40,239 hear back from the DNC folks. So it was, you know, 651 00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,719 they did not want to participate in this. I wonder why, 652 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:46,239 but I guess we'll have to hold our breath on 653 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:46,800 an answer. 654 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,519 Speaker 1: Well, you've been very generous through time. Just a few 655 00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,920 more minutes, but I do want to ask you this 656 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:56,480 because you are not just the RNC co chair all 657 00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:59,480 of the things that we talked about, obviously, a member 658 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,239 of one of the most well known political families of 659 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,960 all time. You're a mom and so I wanted to 660 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,239 talk to you about what it means this election and 661 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,800 your estimation what it means to turn the page on 662 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,119 the last four years in this country. As a mom, 663 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,639 I like. 664 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: That you used the term that the Democrats tried to 665 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,039 coin turn the page. 666 00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: They try to. 667 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 2: Convince us all that we were going to somehow turn 668 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,599 the page with Kamala Harris, but. 669 00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: With the incumbents. That was our rich argument. 670 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: Yes, amazing. I wonder why it didn't work out. Okay, Yeah, listen, 671 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,320 this was my number one driver being a mom. You know, 672 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,840 when I was asked by my father in law to 673 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,440 consider being co chair of the RNC, I initially told 674 00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,000 him that I didn't think this was something I wanted 675 00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:55,719 to do. I knew the gravity of this election. I 676 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,440 knew how much I would have to invest in myself 677 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,920 in order to do this job successfully. I knew what 678 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,760 that would mean for my kids as well, that I 679 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,719 would have to spend a lot of time away from home, 680 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,119 a lot of time on the road. I've been through 681 00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,199 two or I had been now it's three, but I 682 00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:13,400 had been through two previous presidential elections before, so I 683 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,039 know what those are like. And you know my kids 684 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,119 now are five and seven. There were four and six 685 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,559 when I took the role of coach here, but it 686 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,039 was actually because of them. It was the night after 687 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,079 my father in law called and asked me if I 688 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,639 would do this, that I was putting them in bed, 689 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,559 and I really looked at my kids and I said, 690 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,519 my gosh, I could never look at myself in the 691 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:40,679 mirror and know that I could have done something to 692 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,239 make sure this election turns out the right way, and 693 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,159 I didn't, because this is about these kids. It's never 694 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,320 been about me. It's also never been about Donald Trump. 695 00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:52,880 And honestly, Matt, it's not even about you. This is 696 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,079 about the future of this country. And I think so 697 00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,679 many of us have felt that that the same America 698 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,599 that I got to grow up in, you got to 699 00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:03,320 grow up in, is the same America my kids and 700 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,840 my grandkids one day deserve to grow up in as well. 701 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,840 And it felt very much to so many of us 702 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,760 like if this election had gone the wrong way, that 703 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,880 America would cease to exist. And so, I mean, this 704 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,920 was the whole reason that I decided to take this position. 705 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,280 It's the whole reason that I worked as hard as 706 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,079 I did. And so I think that there's such a 707 00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:31,280 sense of relief for so many of us out there. 708 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,840 And I'll tell you it's not just in America. I've 709 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,760 had the opportunity to travel to several different countries since 710 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,000 the election, and everywhere I have gone South America, some 711 00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:47,320 in the Middle East, people are so relieved and are saying, Wow, 712 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,599 we can finally breathe again, because everyone in the world 713 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,480 understands that when America is strong, it means the world 714 00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:58,440 is stabilized. When America operates from a place of strength, 715 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,079 it means that things are better. We don't have wars 716 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,000 breaking out around the world, that things are going to 717 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,760 be better for everyone. And so I just am so 718 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:12,519 hopeful and I have so much I'm I'm just grateful 719 00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:14,760 that the people of this country voted the way that 720 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,840 they did, and I'm grateful that it feels like this 721 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,320 country got another chance, because I really feel like we did. 722 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:24,159 And I'm incredibly optimistic about the next four years. I 723 00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,199 think DOJE is going to be something that is going 724 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,800 to provide probably the most transformational period of our history 725 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,679 save for the inception of America. I think what Elon 726 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,320 Musk and a Viak Ramaswami plan to do, and by 727 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,039 the way, less than two years they say they'll be 728 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:46,119 done with this. I think that is so exciting, so 729 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,239 necessary for the future of this country. And I really 730 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,800 believe that Donald Trump is going to go down as 731 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,639 one of the most popular presidents in American history as 732 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,320 he exits office in his second term, because I think 733 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,320 people are starting to see the Donald Trump they were 734 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,039 sold is maybe not not completely accurate, and I think 735 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:08,519 what he's going to be able to do for this 736 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:12,000 country is going to be absolutely incredible. And I'm just 737 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,639 honored that I got to play a small role in it, 738 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,920 and to have a front row seat to history is 739 00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:22,239 just the honor of a lifetime. And as a girl 740 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,159 who grew up in a fairly normal, middle class family 741 00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:27,480 in North Carolina, I can tell you this has been 742 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:31,119 quite a ride. I'm honored and I'm humbled every single day, 743 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239 and it's all about the kids, and I'm grateful that 744 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,840 our country gets another chance to be great once again. 745 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:42,599 Speaker 1: Well I can tell you this that the American people 746 00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:46,800 were definitely sold a bad bill of goods in twenty nineteen. 747 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,079 In twenty twenty, with Joe Biden, perhaps it took a 748 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,159 catastrophic debate on the part of Joe Biden to wake 749 00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:58,800 the rest of America up. But my goodness, they were 750 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,840 definitely sold the wrong information, a false narrative on your 751 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,920 father in law. And I absolutely agree with you. I 752 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,440 think Americans have awakened to that, and that's why you 753 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,199 have the results in many ways of the November election 754 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,000 that you do. And I also agree that this election 755 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,920 was absolutely about the future, no doubt about it. It 756 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,400 was about our kids. But I'm going to be a 757 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,199 little selfish. I'm going to say it was about me 758 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,880 and this generation to this present time, because I think 759 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,639 we want our country back, and I believe that's what 760 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,760 this election ultimately is all about for Donald Trump, is 761 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,000 it not? 762 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent? This was the moment I think 763 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,480 that it really felt like things would never be the same, 764 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,159 and they were very quickly heading in a direction that 765 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,039 really didn't feel like we could ever come back from 766 00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:54,119 it and overcome the challenges that we would face from 767 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,360 this current administration. And if again things have gone the 768 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,000 other way, I don't know that we have been able 769 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:03,599 to call ourselves in the United States for much longer. 770 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,199 And yeah, the people of this country just want their 771 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,360 country back. They want to feel safe in their communities. 772 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,159 They want to have a closed border, they want their 773 00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,360 money to go farther, they want to be able to 774 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,119 buy American goods, they want to be energy independent again. 775 00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:20,320 They don't want our young men and women being sent 776 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,000 overseas to fight in senseless wars. They want common sense back. 777 00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:29,320 And I think that that's the real overarching theme of 778 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,960 this entire election is common sense. And you know, when 779 00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:36,440 you have one person talking about the things I just 780 00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:39,679 talked about and saying I did this one time before, 781 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:41,599 I know I can do it again, and the other 782 00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:44,920 person really giving you no examples as to how she 783 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:48,079 would make things different or do anything differently from the 784 00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:51,719 current administration. I think it's common sense has to rule 785 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,199 and has to dictate. And certainly all of the things 786 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,119 that I just said are number one priorities, top goal 787 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,840 of my father in laws, and I think in the 788 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,559 first hundred days you're going to see a lot of 789 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:06,760 those things accomplished. He's going to focus on the border. 790 00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,079 He's going to make sure we're energy independent and that 791 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,159 energy export very soon. He's going to make sure that 792 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:14,960 these wars are settled around the world. It's not good 793 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,840 for anyone to have these going on. And a lot 794 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,960 of it's already been. He's already given himself so much 795 00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:24,000 runway leading into January twentieth, so that when he hits 796 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,280 his feet hit the floor of the Oval office in 797 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,039 the afternoon of January twentieth, he's going to be ready 798 00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:33,320 to go. And you know, I think that common sense 799 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,280 is what had to rule in this election, And man, 800 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,519 am I glad it finally did. I was kind of 801 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,039 worried if we didn't have much common sense left mat 802 00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,599 I don't know, but the people came through in this country, 803 00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:45,840 and God bless him for doing it. 804 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: We said, let's have a return to competence first, yes, foremost, 805 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,840 and how about a guy with a vision for the 806 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,880 future that isn't all about lining his pockets quite frankly, 807 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,119 But that's a discussion perhaps different times. So let us 808 00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:07,199 close our conversation, Laura, if you would please join together 809 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,280 now with the theme the mission Statement of the forty 810 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,119 seventh President's next term in office. And we do it 811 00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:24,280 like this, No I back down, nome go you do it. 812 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can stand me up at the gates 813 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,800 of hell, but walm back down. 814 00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love it. Ties it all together, 815 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:39,480 Thank you so much for joining us. It's been an 816 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,159 absolute delight pleasure to meet you and all of my travels. 817 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,119 We have not met, but you have a standing invitation 818 00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:48,280 to join us on the Federalist Radio Hour anytime. 819 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate it very much. Thank you so much 820 00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,920 for the great support, the kind words, and onward and 821 00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,920 upward to making America gradian. That's what we're going to do. 822 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, God bless you in those thank you. Thanks to 823 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,800 my guest today, Laura Trump. You've been listening to another 824 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,800 edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior 825 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,880 Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. 826 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,960 Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the 827 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,280 frame