Speaker 1: Welcome to Thrilling Threads. Today, we are diving into a
story that is, well, it's the perfect storm of high
stex politics and a legal strategy that just completely imploded.
Speaker 2: It's an incredible story. We're talking about a billion dollar
legal threat that didn't just fail, it backfired so spectacularly
that it might end up exposing decades of secrets about
the First Family exactly.
Speaker 1: We're looking at the battle between First Lady Malania Trump
and the author Michael Wolfe, and our mission today is
to really unpack how this happened. We're working from the
court filings and some of the great analysis on this,
particularly from the Migastarch channel.
Speaker 2: Right, because this whole situation, it starts with an attempt
to silence someone, and well it ends with an invitation
for maximum exposure. And remember this is all happening now
in twenty twenty five. Malania is still the First Lady.
Trump is still in the White House.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get into the timeline. It really kicks
off with a shot across the bow from the First
Lady's legal team.
Speaker 2: It does on October fifteenth, twenty twenty five. Her lawyer,
a man named Alejandro Bredo, sends a demand letter to Michael.
Speaker 1: Wolfe and Bretto isn't just any lawyer, right.
Speaker 2: No, And that's a key detail. He also represents Donald
Trump on other legal matters. So this feels very much
like an official White House sanctioned move.
Speaker 1: So what did the letter say? What was the demand?
Speaker 2: It was intense. It basically ordered wolf to immediately retract
and apologize for things he'd written in an article for
The Daily Beast.
Speaker 1: And the title of that piece was pretty provocative, something like.
Speaker 2: Uh, Milania Trump very involved in Epstein's scandal author, So
you know they weren't pulling any punches.
Speaker 1: And what were the specific claims in the article that
triggered such a massive response.
Speaker 2: Well, her lawyers pointed to three things. First, the idea
that Milania was quote very involved in the Epstein social
circle okay. Second, the article suggested she might be the
missing link connecting Trump more deeply to Epstein. And third,
it brought up how she met Donald Trump through a
model agent who supposedly had ties to both.
Speaker 1: Men, and the threat if he didn't comply that was
the kicker.
Speaker 2: He had until October twenty first, at five pm to
retract and apologize or she would sue him for over
one billion dollars a billion wow.
Speaker 1: But here's where it all go sideways for them. Wolf
doesn't apologize, he doesn't retract.
Speaker 2: No, he does the exact opposite. He sues her, and
he does it on October twenty first, the very day
the deadline expired.
Speaker 1: He flipped the entire situation on its head completely.
Speaker 2: He files in New York for abusive process and for
chilling his First Amendment rights. He's basically arguing the threat
itself was an illegal tactic to silence a journalist, and
that billion dollar threat letter it's exhibit too in his lawsuit.
Speaker 1: So abusive process. For those of us who aren't lawyers,
what does that actually mean in this context.
Speaker 2: It means you're using the legal system for an improper purpose.
Wolfe is arguing that the billion dollar figure was so absurd,
so baseless, that they never actually intended to win in court.
The whole point was just to scare him, to bully
him into silence.
Speaker 1: And because he's dude first, she is now the defendant,
which brings us to this really bizarre situation that's happening
right now.
Speaker 2: The evasion. She's actively evading service of process. They are
trying to physically hander the lawsuit, and she's doing everything
she can to avoid it.
Speaker 1: Their first attempt was almost comical. They tried to serve
the lawyer who sent the letter, Alejandro.
Speaker 2: Bretto, right because in his letter, Brito had specifically said
all future correspondents should go through him. But when the
process server showed up with the.
Speaker 1: Lawsuit, he refused it, flat out.
Speaker 2: Refused, said he wasn't representing her in this specific case.
It's a transparent attempt to just you know, throw a
wrench in the works.
Speaker 1: But the next attempts are even more revealing. They sent
process servers to Trump.
Speaker 2: Tower, yes, because Wolfe's lawsuit claims that's where she actually lives,
not in the White House. And what happened there, well,
the first server apparently panicked when he found out who
he was serving and just left.
Speaker 1: Can't really blame him.
Speaker 2: But the second one got further. Security stopped him at
the door, but in the process they confirmed it. They said, yes,
Millennia lives here.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And then they told him that if he left the
papers they would just throw him in the garbage.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, so her own security team admitted on
record that the first lady of the United States doesn't
live at the White House they did.
Speaker 2: And that they would destroy legal documents. I mean, they
basically handed Wolfe's legal team everything they need.
Speaker 1: So what's the next step for him?
Speaker 2: Legally, he can go to a judge and say, look,
we've tried everything. Her own people confirm she lives here
and are obstructing service. We need you to issue an
order saying she is officially served, and he will almost
certainly get it.
Speaker 1: This all leads to the big question, why was this
such a monumental error. Why pick a fight with Michael
Wolfe of all people.
Speaker 2: It's his background, It's what makes him uniquely dangerous to them.
Wolf isn't just a journalist. He is Donald Trump's former
authorized biographer. He was inside the circle.
Speaker 1: He knows them, he knows them.
Speaker 2: But here's the real bombshell. He was also at one
point a potential biographer for Jeffrey Epstein. No way, Yes,
So he has spoken directly with Epstein and was Steve
Bannon about what Epstein knew and what Trump was worried about.
He is not speculating. He's operating from a position of
deep firsthand knowledge. He knows where the bodies are buried.
Speaker 1: And Milania has tried this kind of threat before, hasn't she?
Speaker 2: She has? She threatened Hunter Biden with a billion dollar.
Speaker 1: Lawsuit and what was his response?
Speaker 2: He basically said, please do. He welcomed it, saying it
would give him the right to depose her and everyone
around her. She never sued. The difference here is Wolf
didn't wait for her to back down. He forced the issue.
Speaker 1: So now the door is wide open for legal discovery.
What is Wolf actually.
Speaker 2: Asking for everything? He wants it all, he stated publicly
He's going for depositions under oath of both Milania and
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: A sitting president and first lady.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he wants their emails, their documents, their text messages,
even their.
Speaker 1: Personal That is just extraordinary. What is he hoping to find?
What's the goal?
Speaker 2: He wants to get to the bottom of the Trump
Epstein relationship, the financial involvement between them, and to put
it politely, the sexual involvement. He keeps using the term wayman.
He also wants to dig into Melania's entire history, how
she came to the US, her visa status, her connections
to these modeling agents.
Speaker 1: These are questions that have been swirling for years, but
he now has the legal power to compel.
Speaker 2: Answers exactly and to justify this aggressive discovery. He's already
put some explosive claims on the table.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the photographs, yes.
Speaker 2: And we need to be clear here. This is what
Wolf claims Epstein showed him.
Speaker 1: It's his recollection, understood, So what does he claim he saw?
Speaker 2: He says Epstein showed him about a dozen snapshots. Out
of that set, he vividly remembers three, okay, two of
them he claims showed topless girls sitting in Donald Trump's
lap by Epstein's pool. On the third one is pretty disturbing.
He describes the photo showing a stain on the front
of Trump's pants with several girls laughing and pointing at it.
Speaker 1: And where would these photos even be now?
Speaker 2: Wolf speculates they were in Epstein's safe, which you know,
the FBI seized and emptied, so his legal discovery could
potentially target the FBI's inventory of what was in that safe.
Speaker 1: This is moving into uncharted territory.
Speaker 2: It really is. And beyond Epstein, Wolf is also bringing
up the current state of the Trump's marriage, which adds
another layer of political risk.
Speaker 1: What's he saying there?
Speaker 2: He shared a story from a source who said that
when Jason Miller asked Malania to show up for Trump's
first indictment, you know, for a show of support, she
just laughed and said, nice.
Speaker 1: Try, nice try.
Speaker 2: And the source summarized her feelings by saying, she hates
his fucking guts. Now, if that's even partially true, imagine
her incentive to protect him during a sworn deposition.
Speaker 1: The potential for internal conflict there is huge, which brings
us to the discovery targeting her own past the questions
from twenty sixteen that never really got answered.
Speaker 2: Right, Wolf is signaling he's going to dig into all
of it, starting with her education. She claimed for years
she had an architecture degree from the University of Zubjana.
Speaker 1: Which wasn't true. She left after one year.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and her official website, which listed that degree was
just quietly scrubbed from the Internet in July twenty sixteen.
Discovery can force her to answer why.
Speaker 1: But the really sensitive part is her connection to Paula Zumpli.
Speaker 2: Zample's the central figure. He's the modeling agent who discovered her,
got her a visa and introduced her to Trump at
that party at the Kitcat Club in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: And the reason this is so relevant now, well, just this.
Speaker 2: Year, in March twenty twenty five, President Trump appointed Zampoli
as a Special Envoy for Global Partnership.
Speaker 1: You're kidding me, no, So the key.
Speaker 2: Figure in all the unanswered questions about Malania's past is
now a government official, which makes him a completely legitimate
target for deposition in this lawsuit.
Speaker 1: And there were those very serious allegations back in twenty
sixteen from The Daily about them running an escort service.
Speaker 2: Yes, she threatened to sue over that, but never did.
Now Wolf can ask about it under oath. This lawsuit
reopens everything. All those questions. Simon Rosenberg asked in twenty
sixteen that Trump promised to press conference.
Speaker 1: On the press conference that never happened.
Speaker 2: The one that never happened. Now Wolf can ask them,
what kind of visa did you have before your two
thousand green card? Can we see the applications? How did
you get that green card? Were you working illegally before
you got your visa?
Speaker 1: These are questions that could have massive political implications, and
they've been successfully stonewalled for almost a decade.
Speaker 2: And now a single ill advised threat letter has given
a very knowledgeable, very motivated opponent the legal tools to
force those answers into the public record.
Speaker 1: So, at the end of the day, an attempt to
control the narrative has led to a complete loss of control.
Speaker 2: It's the definition of a backfire. By threatening to sue,
they invited a lawsuit, by trying to hide, they've invited
court mandate transparency, and by evading service. Now she's only
helping Wolf prove his case that they're trying to obstruct
the process.
Speaker 1: So this is our question for you. We've seen the threat,
the countersuit, and now the evasion. Do you think this
will finally force the White House to confront these long
standing questions about Epstein and Malania's past head on, or
will the courts just step in deem her served and
let the discovery process begin, letting the documents and the
depositions tell the story. Let us know what you think.