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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here

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<v Speaker 2>on a Friday morning, August twenty third.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Robert Kennedy expected today to endorse Donald Trump. And

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<v Speaker 2>the deal is a quid pro quo. You give me

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<v Speaker 2>a really high position in the administration, I will endorse you.

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<v Speaker 2>And it looks like Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Has bought it. Because it looks like Trump has bought it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So the big news last night, Oh, before

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<v Speaker 2>we get to that, just really quickly, the podcast, the

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Handles Show podcast is dropping again yesterday. It's Tuesday Thursdays,

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<v Speaker 2>and yesterday was crazy memorabilia. The stuff that people pay

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<v Speaker 2>for and what they sell is just completely insane, that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Handle Show podcast. You can also go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bill handleshowpodcast dot com for the website. All right now,

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<v Speaker 2>last night, Vice President Harris accepted the Democratic nomination. What

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<v Speaker 2>a shocker, and in a well anticipated hugely anticipated speech

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the biggest speech.

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<v Speaker 3>Of her career. Usually that happens with accepting the nomination.

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<v Speaker 2>She did and did it pretty well, I thought, And

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<v Speaker 2>that is do the normal just soaring rhetoric that you

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<v Speaker 2>hear from nominees at that point and at the same

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<v Speaker 2>time a personal attack on Donald Trump. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the way this campaign is going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to be a this is hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Joy.

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<v Speaker 2>Joy is an immense part of the campaign. And then

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<v Speaker 2>my question is on the joy part. Did it morph

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<v Speaker 2>into joy or was that plan from the beginning, because

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<v Speaker 2>as the convention started to keep in mind that she

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<v Speaker 2>had already won the nomination, they had voted early virtually

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<v Speaker 2>so this was just to I guess, conclude it in

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<v Speaker 2>some way symbolically. But it was described by virtually every

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<v Speaker 2>commentator or every news outlet.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a party. That's what this was. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a party.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody that I was watching was, in fact saying

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<v Speaker 2>that the exuberance in the hall, the electricity did you

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<v Speaker 2>hear for those of you that watched it or for

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<v Speaker 2>those of you that didn't, Every time a speaker would

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<v Speaker 2>be there and there was any kind of a phrase,

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<v Speaker 2>a short, succinct phrase, the screaming that came from the hall.

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<v Speaker 2>How many people were up there? Twousand people and in

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<v Speaker 2>unison they all yelled. One of them, of course, is

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris's mantra, right when we fight, we win. And

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<v Speaker 2>every time someone says that the whole place just exploded

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<v Speaker 2>with that phrase or any phrase that was uttered by

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<v Speaker 2>a speaker, I mean there was real excitement there, real excitement.

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<v Speaker 3>Also a quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Note, were there more balloons dropped than at any other time.

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<v Speaker 2>It may get to the point where the hall is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be nothing but balloons twelve feet deep in

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<v Speaker 2>the next few elections. But I want to spend a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of minutes talking about just some of the takeaways,

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<v Speaker 2>because it would take me a very long time to

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<v Speaker 2>go through all of it. She spoke for forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>She hit on many different points, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hit everyone. But overriding it are two main issues.

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<v Speaker 2>One is we're going to be in a better place.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing pretty well now versus the Republicans portraying.

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<v Speaker 3>America as this miserable place.

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<v Speaker 2>Where unemployment is rife, illegal aliens have taken your jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>Inflation is out of control. Even though it's under three percent,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the worst crime we have ever experienced in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Not really, crime is down this year pretty substantially. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be that kind of attack. There's two realities here.

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<v Speaker 2>There are two realities. One is hope and one is change,

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<v Speaker 2>and one is joyfulness. Now Biden's Biden's administration, which she

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<v Speaker 2>was part of. She's keeping most of the policy. She's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to differential state, differential, differential, cell, differentiate, differentiate.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Bill oh Peek.

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<v Speaker 2>No, as always, what if people think when I do that,

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<v Speaker 2>this clown gets paid for talking and I can do

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<v Speaker 2>so much better.

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<v Speaker 3>Two things I want to point out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>One you're absolutely right and two you're absolutely right. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to differentiate, or try she will differentiate from Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, not really. She is simply

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<v Speaker 2>going to put it in I think terms that are

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<v Speaker 2>more palatable. Look what we did a lot of it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Look how extraordinary the Biden administration was. Look what he

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<v Speaker 2>brought to the table, Look what he did, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was extraordinary. One of the most successful presidencies in the

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<v Speaker 2>history of the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the way it's being portrayed.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as Donald Trump is portraying her presidency or

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden administration as the worst in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>this country, the worst economic peril we've ever been, and

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<v Speaker 2>far worse than the Great Depression, far worse than the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Recession. And you know, for some is that true.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't think so. Illegal alien has

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<v Speaker 3>not taken my job.

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<v Speaker 2>I have yet to meet somebody who says an illegal

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<v Speaker 2>migrant has taken my job. I'd like to know anybody

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<v Speaker 2>who has had that happen. But that is the premise.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Trump does go and point to a crowd

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<v Speaker 2>of ten, fifteen, twenty thousand people and say, migrants have

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<v Speaker 2>taken your jobs. Yep, certainly has a lot of personal

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<v Speaker 2>attacks are going on, a lot of truths are being

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<v Speaker 2>undone and on more. Well, I'm going to say on

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican side there is more let's just say playing

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<v Speaker 2>with the truth, and is the Democrat side.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't mean the attacks aren't coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go and deal with some of these

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back in terms of what she said,

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<v Speaker 2>what she meant, how much of it is real, what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rhetoric? And then Donald Trump's response, We know

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<v Speaker 2>how with the kind of personal attacks, the only issue

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<v Speaker 2>is how they're going to sign, how they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>how they're going to come off. What are they what's

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<v Speaker 2>he going to signal? One of them was great last

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<v Speaker 2>night in the middle of it, and she talked about

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<v Speaker 2>coach Walls, right, and he tweeted he was no coach,

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<v Speaker 2>he was an assistant coach. Don't call him a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a Donald Trump tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>The Republicans should stop using they take your jobs and

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<v Speaker 1>start using they take your down payments for home loans,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in California, we don't know how many people are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get those home loans. And I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to see the attack on they're giving illegal aliens home loans.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a legitimate attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris accepts the Democratic nomination and a speech that

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<v Speaker 2>went almost forty minutes, and I'm going.

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<v Speaker 3>To give her pretty good grades.

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<v Speaker 2>She's no Tim Walls. I'll tell you that she's no Oprah.

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<v Speaker 2>But she did come off as well as I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen her. And she was able to do two hits,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is describe what she is going to do

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<v Speaker 2>while and talk about I think almost play a separate

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<v Speaker 2>part than Joe Biden, when in fact she's probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to simply maintain the Joe Biden agenda, but she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to paint it in I think, a different light. It's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like Pope Francis, who in fact is as conservative

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<v Speaker 2>as any other pope has been, but he paints it

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<v Speaker 2>in a very different light. And I think that where

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<v Speaker 2>Harris went. Now, what she did is spend an enormous

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time talking about the future, talking about hope,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the theme is going to be joy that

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats are bringing this campaign versus what Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is bringing. And that's a cynical It couldn't be worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Life is terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I connect with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that even though I'm not a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of Donald Trump, and I think the personal attacks

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<v Speaker 2>I think are and I just don't like the outright lies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, just straight out lies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big difference in that, as I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>the worst economic point we've ever been in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>See really, by that.

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<v Speaker 2>She gets elected, it's guaranteed World War three will start.

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<v Speaker 2>You really get that, I mean, you know that's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit far. I really believe that, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe that the Republican campaign is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely personal and portraying this apocalyptic view of what America

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be if it turns out that the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats win. On the other side, she portrays a person

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<v Speaker 2>who has no guardrails, who thinks more of himself than

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<v Speaker 2>he does of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually people are owed by the presidency. Virtually every president

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen in my lifetime is totally awed by

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<v Speaker 2>the presidency. Donald Trump is not. He is owed by

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. That I guarantee you is the truth. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's interesting. He is a guy who has

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<v Speaker 2>been able to pull off being insanely wealthy yet at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time a populist. By the way, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the only person who's ever done this, if you notice

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<v Speaker 2>last night and certainly Walls and Harrow has talked about

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<v Speaker 2>their middle class upbringing. I'm one of you. We are

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<v Speaker 2>in it together. I grew up in a middle class home.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents gave me everything I needed. My parents made

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<v Speaker 2>me the person I was. You don't hear that from

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>What you hear is make America great again. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it. And by the way, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>alone in doing that, being a very wealthy guy and

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<v Speaker 2>connecting with the people on a populist level.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who did that.

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<v Speaker 2>More than any other president in the history of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, Franklin Roosevelt. Franklin Roosevelt, who created social Security

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<v Speaker 2>of people argue that he really didn't do much and

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<v Speaker 2>all he did was start a socialist government. Well, in reality,

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<v Speaker 2>people were starving by the millions. And I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what anybody says about Franklin Roosevelt.

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<v Speaker 3>He literally kept.

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<v Speaker 2>Millions and millions of people from starving through governmental programs

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<v Speaker 2>which prior to that Republican administrations A La Hoover simply

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<v Speaker 3>And so here he is for the little guy, which

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<v Speaker 3>he was.

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<v Speaker 2>And Roosevelt had a ton of money and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem to bother people. The same time Trump comes from

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of money. He is a billionaire. He started rich,

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<v Speaker 2>and he made himself even richer with his real estate empire.

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<v Speaker 2>And no one seems, certainly on the Republican side, no

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<v Speaker 2>one seems to resent it.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they even admire it on some level, is

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<v Speaker 2>that he is so wealthy and he did it by

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<v Speaker 2>fighting the man.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to fight the man for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because it's a deep state, because it's the intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>community is there, They're traders, and it's very weird. The

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<v Speaker 2>realities here are very strange. So what you saw is

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, how great America is going to be,

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<v Speaker 3>Basically bring the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of the same philosophy and the same programs as

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden's going to continue with Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time, there was no hope with Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>The convention would have been a very different animal had

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden stood up there and accepted the nomination.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a lot of depressed a lot of depressed

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<v Speaker 2>Reluctantly are forced to vote for Joe Biden because they

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<v Speaker 2>won't vote for Donald Trump. And now that has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's joy and it really is. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>it at the convention. I mean, she has been able

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<v Speaker 2>to electrify, she's been able to ignite the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we get to see is it a honeymoon that

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<v Speaker 2>then is going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Numbers are going to be lowered and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be much much more of a wipeout

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<v Speaker 2>that was certainly the case when it was Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is she going to continue with her numbers going up?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you one thing, at this point, the Republicans are

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<v Speaker 3>There is no question about that.

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<v Speaker 2>They are, really, particularly Donald Trump. He has argued that

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden should be in the race, not Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>It is unconstitutional for her for him not to be

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<v Speaker 2>the nominee, and a coup took place. I mean, throwing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff out there, as if a nominee

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<v Speaker 2>can't just say I don't want to run because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to lose, so I can't wait. This is just

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<v Speaker 2>the start and it's going to be fascinating from now

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<v Speaker 2>until the election in November. This is the time when

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to have this job. You know, there are

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<v Speaker 2>times when it's not, and there are times when it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Time is going to be great, all right. The other

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<v Speaker 3>thing that's going on I want to share with you

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<v Speaker 3>PG and E.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fires that have occurred because of what PG

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<v Speaker 3>I when forest fires or wildfires.

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<v Speaker 2>Were being reported more and more. I didn't really blame

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<v Speaker 2>the utilities that much. I always thought that it was

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<v Speaker 2>ignited by someone and the utilities. You know, those power

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<v Speaker 2>lines going down really didn't do it. Those power lines

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<v Speaker 2>going down really did do it. PG and E has

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<v Speaker 2>reported to state regulators sixty two agnitions in high fire

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<v Speaker 2>areas so far this year, sixty five for the entirety

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty three already sixty two. Twenty nine of

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<v Speaker 2>them occurred just the last few weeks the heat wave

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<v Speaker 2>in July. So what is going on? Well, PG and

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<v Speaker 2>E is, first of all, they got nailed, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>nailed after the campfire. For example, they settle for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five billion dollars. Also had to file for bankruptcy. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there was no way they were going to just

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<v Speaker 2>accept all those lawsuits or deal with them. So they

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<v Speaker 2>had to go to bankruptcy court to figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>to do and hold off all of the settlements or

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<v Speaker 2>at least the lawsuits going forward until the settlements were reached.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they've now been looking at what they can do.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that you would think they would

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<v Speaker 2>do is clean up all of the brush and the

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<v Speaker 2>ignitable fuel that's around these power poles, because in case

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<v Speaker 2>there is a good healthy win down the lines go

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<v Speaker 2>ignite fires.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, they're not doing that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Why well, because they have one hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>of them to do. Oh no, actually one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety thousand of them to do, So that art is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of being set aside. What they're doing is relying

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<v Speaker 2>more heavily on new power line settings at areas that

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<v Speaker 2>are at high risk of fire. And what they do

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<v Speaker 2>these are sensors where the electric line shuts off within

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<v Speaker 2>a tenth of a second when any of the power

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<v Speaker 2>lines touch anything. Be it a bird that somehow connects

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<v Speaker 2>two power lines. And you've seen a lot of birds

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<v Speaker 2>on power lines. It's fine if they're on a single

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<v Speaker 2>power line. Not so fine when somehow through the bird,

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<v Speaker 2>two power lines touch and the electricity is conducted.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, to be fair, that's pretty entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>To see a bird get fried, they actually get vaporized,

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<v Speaker 2>and always see his feather feathers flying around. But the

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<v Speaker 2>danger is so extraordinary that a fire can ignite, and

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<v Speaker 2>look at what happens with all of a sudden in

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of and We've heard Amy report on this,

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<v Speaker 2>We've heard this on national news. A fire can start

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<v Speaker 2>and then double in a matter of hours, and you

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<v Speaker 2>just never know when.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to happen. So there, we're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>able to stop arsonists.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to be able to stop fires ignited

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<v Speaker 2>by lightning, although that's pretty rare, but something can be Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you can arrest arsenists, but you know, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do about arsenists other.

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<v Speaker 3>Than arrest them?

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<v Speaker 2>But what can be done is lower the risk of

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<v Speaker 2>fires by power lines, and that seems to be the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of fires that occur in wooded areas, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing everything they can. They have to because the

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<v Speaker 2>liability is so insane. The reason PG and E is

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<v Speaker 2>the big news is because it is the largest utility

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<v Speaker 2>that we have in California, seventy thousand square miles. They

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<v Speaker 2>cover in northern central California, and so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work they have to do and it's going reasonably well.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality is if you are even in high risk areas,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is like the recall of the air bags,

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<v Speaker 2>since you have so many to do, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do about the ones that are not being able to

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<v Speaker 2>be fixed for years. If you're talking about with for example,

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<v Speaker 2>in the airbag millions had to be recalled. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're number one, or two or five, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens if you're number three million?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the case going on, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reason why they changed how they deal with the

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<v Speaker 2>fires ignited about power lines. First of all, the years

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<v Speaker 2>it would take, the extraordinary effort and the money that

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<v Speaker 2>would be spent, and they're saying, it's better off. We're

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<v Speaker 2>better off, they're better off dealing with these sensors, grabbing

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<v Speaker 2>them early. And if you're going to clean vegetation, which

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to in the high high risk areas as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to every place else.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, a quick word about lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that is fun, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>a law school where I really enjoyed this stuff, is

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<v Speaker 2>the history of something called emotional distress, right, either negligent

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<v Speaker 2>or intentional emotional distress. Now, historically you had to be

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<v Speaker 2>hurt to also have an emotional distress lawsuit. Going emotional distresses,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not hurt, it's just the emotions, and the law

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<v Speaker 2>said you had to actually be hurt before you could

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<v Speaker 2>file for emotional distress. Okay, now that changed a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and for example, mothers seeing their kids run over. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>mother wasn't hurt, but you know, that sort of reached

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<v Speaker 2>the level where emotional distress flew. Another one that's really neat,

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<v Speaker 2>which is almost universe, is when families are dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>dead people. There are some cases that I remember, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>on the way to the grave site and the pallbearers

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<v Speaker 2>are bringing the coffin and Uncle Murray falls out the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the coffin and then starts rolling, and people

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<v Speaker 2>were there, the family members were there. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuit for emotional distress. Okay, fair enough, and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>more sort of accepted. But this is here's why it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to go. This is about as family oriented emotional

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<v Speaker 2>distress as it exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse Peterson is thirty one years old.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a Type one diabetic and has a diabetic

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<v Speaker 2>She has a seizure. She came in she had some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an episode, so she calls nine to one one.

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<v Speaker 3>She gets to the hospital. Okay, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And the family doesn't know this and they start looking

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<v Speaker 2>for her file a missing person's where the hell she?

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<v Speaker 3>Where is she?

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<v Speaker 2>So they said that they found out that she went

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital. The hospital never notified them that she

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<v Speaker 2>had died at the hospital. They were led to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that she had checked out of the hospital on her

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<v Speaker 2>own against medical advice. Well it turns out she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>and they were told she checked out. So they're now

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<v Speaker 2>doing the search. And I mean they're doing the search

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<v Speaker 2>with posters and calling the police, and they're on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're telling friends and they have strangers looking for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>She had called her mom, asked her to pick her

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<v Speaker 2>up from the hospital when she felt better, and she

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, she's checked out. Oh my god. And then they

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<v Speaker 3>can't find her.

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<v Speaker 2>So it turns out that she had died at the hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>and the hospital telling mom and dad that she checked out.

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<v Speaker 3>It turned out that she hadn't checked out.

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<v Speaker 2>It turned out she had died that day, and they

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<v Speaker 2>parked her in the morgue, and a death certificate, which

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<v Speaker 2>has to be issued immediately upon the death of someone

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<v Speaker 2>in the hospital, wasn't issued until a year later, when

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<v Speaker 2>they discovered that she was camped in the morgue and

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<v Speaker 2>the family finally found out about it, and here comes

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<v Speaker 2>a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>Asking for twenty five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, when I started this segment, I told you about

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuits for emotional distress, right, dealing with for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>family members and death, Uncle Murray falling out of the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the casket and rolling along in front of everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Big big settlements, moms getting seeing their children interviewed, seeing

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<v Speaker 3>And I think is going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be added to the law school curriculum and cases of.

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<v Speaker 3>Negligent infliction of emotional distress.

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<v Speaker 2>This one hospital saying, yeah, your daughter left, she checked out.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, she died.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, it isn't until a year later

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital lets the information out she.

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<v Speaker 3>Fell through the cracks.

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<v Speaker 2>So the lawsuit, of course is for intentional or is

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<v Speaker 2>for emotional distress. Now they're not only asking for compensatory

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<v Speaker 2>that is the suffering that the family has undergone, which

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<v Speaker 2>there no one's going to argue that deadn't happen, But

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<v Speaker 2>they're also asking for punies, punitive damages, saying the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>was so reckless that it's almost they intended to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so insanely negligent, that punitive payment should be

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<v Speaker 2>made gonna happen. But the compensatory, the infliction of emotional distress.

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<v Speaker 3>That's going to fly. Hey Bill on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>If you say they knowingly said that she left when

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have the paperwork, when it wasn't done properly,

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't get punitive damages.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you might, but there but you're gonna have to prove.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, intent is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Say say we lost her.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't find that's and that's what they're going to say.

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<v Speaker 3>She checked out, right, she fell through the cracks. Someone

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<v Speaker 3>thought she checked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the record said we don't know enough about this,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh, it's I don't think punies are gonna fly.

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<v Speaker 2>They might, I don't know. In front of a jury,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you never know what's going to happen. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be a bench trial. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to settle. I mean, there's no way that

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital is going to defend itself in a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, can you imagine what a jury's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do under these circumstances. By the way, the hospital, when

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<v Speaker 2>asked for a comment, said, quote, we extend our deepest

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<v Speaker 2>sympathies to the family during this difficult time.

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<v Speaker 3>We're unable to comment on pending litigation.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, that's not them just being obnoxious

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<v Speaker 2>about it. No lawyer in the world is going to

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<v Speaker 2>let a client talk about something on a lawsuit on

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<v Speaker 2>this level. All right, This is kf I Am six

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