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Speaker 1: This week we are talking about Titanic Thompson, arguably the

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greatest and definitely the most prolific gambler in American history.

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This man hit the road with one thing in mind,

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to relieve rubs of their money. This man would hustle

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you and pool. He would hustle you in golf. He

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was a whiz with cards. He would do prop bets

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you couldn't even dream up. He would do prop bets

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that only an idiot would take, and so many idiots

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took them. Titanic Thompson is arguably again the greatest gambler

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in American history, and this man lived a true American life.

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So without further ado, here's our episode on Titanic Thompson

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America's greatest gambler.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to softcore History.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome back to softcore History. I am

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your host for the week, Rob Fox. I am joined

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as always by Dan Regester. Go bird's got your little

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DeVonta smithter And look's homemade.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I got this from China.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it look.

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Speaker 2: It was fifteen dollars. It was made in someone's home

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by little Chinese slave hands.

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Speaker 1: But like you can tell, it's off.

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Speaker 3: It's a little macromay. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks pretty good for fifteen dollars. Like, fuck off,

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I guess for fifteen dollars. Okay, we else join by

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Jesse Wiseman. Here here Therey.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I could never wait to speak.

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Speaker 1: I'm just it's it lets people. It's almost like it's

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like in a movie when you hear a voice from

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across the room and then someone walks out of the shadows.

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Everyone who's that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I like. I like to make

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an entrance.

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Speaker 2: You should be smoking a cigarette.

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Speaker 3: Guys, I mean, you know, guest, whatever I feel like

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at this point, I'm a part time co host.

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Speaker 1: Really, I mean, I believe you're most tenured co host.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I don't think so. I think Jack is

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because he heard.

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Speaker 1: Jack or Gabby is, but they're all pretty close.

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Speaker 2: She's still chasing Coop though, she's still chasing her co

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host on Crime Corner, which.

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Speaker 3: We said, we said last time, my co host on

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Crime Corner. I can't beat him.

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Speaker 2: He's got the most listens on YouTube. Its because we

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made the Canadians, because.

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Speaker 3: You made Canadians angry now and the last one I

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think I tried to make. Who did I go after?

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Speaker 2: I think you gave up pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: I gave it pretty quick. I think it was maybe

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like an oyster lover I was going after.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jake is, Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: He's Jewish, not a big demographic though. You think Jewish

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people are the ones that are the oyster farmers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I tried something. I tried something.

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Speaker 1: You might legitimately, Jake might legitimately be the only Jewish

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oyster farmer on Earth.

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Speaker 3: Right you think so it's a low, it's a hot

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like that might do it, Bob, that might get us,

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do you know what I mean? Just that statement right there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, dare you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a whole New Jersey subset we know about.

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Speaker 3: Just buddy to research.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know there's a whole Jewish mafia that actually

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runs that industry.

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Speaker 1: Dear chat GPT. How many Jews farm oysters?

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Speaker 2: It's twenty eight and they all connect to the Rothschilds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all that's how.

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Speaker 2: It's how they get their pearls. Didn't know we would

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get there with Jesse, but we're here.

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Speaker 3: We're here.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into this week's episode.

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Speaker 1: As I alluded to right before we came on air,

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this is a kind of an episode that has a

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lot to do with Dan specifically. I feel like this

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is Dan. This would either be the life you wish

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you lived or it's you, like you were this person

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in a past life.

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Speaker 2: Bizarrow, you not Bizarro.

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Speaker 3: Like literally he has been this person.

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Speaker 1: You know how in some shitty reincarnation movies, like people

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always end up back together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's like, oh, our souls are just drawn

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to each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Hancock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like Hancock or that happened in What Dreams May Come.

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They're like, oh, your soulmates, so you can go back

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on to earth and you'll find each other.

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Speaker 3: You hate that movie, I bet you do. It's so good.

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I actually believe you don't cry during that movie, not.

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Speaker 2: In Eternal Love, but that there's always somebody in past

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lives that is wrong you and continues to wrong you

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in every life. Yeah, like you have a rival or

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just this incarnates, incarnates to be your kind of enemy.

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Speaker 1: Like you're just destined to battle throughout all of time. Yes,

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at one point you were too, like scuttle fish in

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the Crustacean era, just like there's always a good in

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a bad fighting over whatever a rock.

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Speaker 2: But it's the same person. I like that. I like

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that better than Eternal Love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because then you know there's no way you're ending.

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Speaker 2: Up with that person every time now, because.

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Speaker 3: They wouldn't whoever it was, they're not coming to Austin.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain? It's certainly not it's gotta be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be infuriating too if you eventually

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realize your soulmates. But like you obviously spent the first

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like twenty five twenty years of your life like banging

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other people. Yeah, Like, well I hope you had fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we're back. Yeah, No, they whip your memory.

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Speaker 3: Wait, what's the problem with any of that?

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Speaker 2: It's men in black.

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Speaker 3: It has to happen.

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Speaker 1: It does, or you won't be in love. But today,

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and this is where the dan stuff comes in.

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Speaker 2: I thought we already talked about the person that was

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in the past life with Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Who is that Arnold Rostein? Yeah, No, this is who

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you were.

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Speaker 2: I thought I connected more with him.

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Speaker 1: No, and this person's from the Arnold Rostein story. This

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is a spinoff of last time's episode. Okay, we're talking

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about one of the most legendary gamblers and golf hustlers

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in American history, a man whose nickname is either fitting

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or ironic when you hear it. Fitting because he's larger

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than life. Maybe ironic because he's very much the opposite

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of a catastrophic failure.

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Speaker 2: Failure, we're talking about it. You call me a catastrophic failure.

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Speaker 1: I said, you're the opposite of a catastrophic failure.

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Speaker 3: Just let him finish. He's just got to do the intro.

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Then we'll find that the similarity.

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Speaker 1: The nickname might imply that he's a catastrophic failure because

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his name is Titanic Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think you mentioned he was.

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Speaker 1: He's uh plays a role in the Arnold Rostein story,

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which we did on my last hosted episode, Arnold Rosstein

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being the guy, the gambling magnate and crime boss who

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fixed the nineteen nineteen World series.

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Speaker 2: Now, for those at home, the Titanic was a boat

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that was too big to fail.

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Speaker 3: I was on that too Big to sin.

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Speaker 2: You were right, Yes, you were on the Titanic episode. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so you're saying that nickname would imply maybe it.

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Speaker 1: Would imply that he's a failure. But he's not right,

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You're Titanic.

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Speaker 2: I think you're implying that I'm just a massive man,

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larger than life. I'm a huge boy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're swollen.

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Speaker 2: You're not that big.

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Speaker 3: He's really taking this story as I mean, every everything

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we say is gonna be a jab at him.

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Speaker 2: Now, Bob, I'm gonna have my defenses up. Let's rob

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exactly what I am not. No, huh no, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: How how Alvin Clarence Titanic Thompson actually got his name

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is fitting, though, although a little bit odd. It was

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the spring of nineteen twelve and Titanic the Titanic, the

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boat had just made headlines, obviously for sinking and killing

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one thousand people.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: Thompson meanwhile, had just made his way to Joplin, Missouri

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that spring, and he was gambling and hustling in a

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pool hall there, and he had just won five hundred

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dollars the equivalent of fifteen thousand dollars today.

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Speaker 3: That is like Dan.

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Speaker 2: It's a good lick. Yeah, that is like Dan.

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Speaker 1: And he promptly he well, he wanted off a gambler

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named Snow Clark, but feeling bad for Clark and being

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a gamer and a man of honor, Thompson offered Snow

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a way to win enough money back that he would

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break even on the night. So Thompson had won five hundred.

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Titanic had won five hundred dollars just across the course

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of the evening, right, So, but I think Snow if

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he won two hundred back, he would just break even

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for the night. So Titanic was like, you know what, Pal,

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I'm a good spot.

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Speaker 3: He drinks like that, huh oh yeah, right, So at

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that point He's like, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a chance to win the two hundred dollars.

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I'll get a chance to win tw hundred dollars Ifack

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get back to even.

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Speaker 2: Double or nothing. Now was snow icy cold or on cocaine?

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Speaker 3: Was that a nickname for him?

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Speaker 1: Or snow was a nickname for him? There are a

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lot of great nicknames in this Snow fats Minnesota or

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no Minnesota fats.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, by the way, Minnesota fats.

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Speaker 3: It's a really good.

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Speaker 2: Having a state as your first name. Strong.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, old Missouri fats over here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So Titanic bet him two hundred dollars that

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he could jump the length of a pool table. He

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could jump over a pool table lengthwise, okay, like take

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a run and jump and just clear it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, some decent hots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy, Like you shouldn't be able to do it.

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And Thompson said as much. He said, if you think

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that's easy, try it. This is from a nineteen seventy

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two Sports Illustrated article a quote from Titanic Thompson. But

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I could jump farther than I heard of bullfrogs in

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those days. I put down an old mattress on the

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other side of the table. Then I took a run

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and dived head first across the pool table. While I

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was counting my money because he'd won, and he'd taken

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an extra two hundred dollars from snow So, which is

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like an extra like eight grand that he just fucking

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bleeds off on a like in two seconds.

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Speaker 3: Drunken motherfucker's just like betting this dude is on, you'll

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get there.

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Speaker 2: It's he's insane.

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Speaker 1: So somebody asked Clark what my name was, and Clark

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said it must be Titanic. He sinks everybody okay, and

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he went from Titanic went by Titanic from then on.

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Although Minnesota Fats, who was his fellow pool hustler for

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a while. Uh and although he thought he was a

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great hustler, I guess thought less of him or just

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thought he was kind of like a dishonest piece of shit.

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Minnesota Fats claimed that Titanic got the nickname because he

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was on the Titanic and dressed up like a woman

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to get off onto a boat. War.

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Speaker 3: That's a way better story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the worst accusations you could have, guests.

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Speaker 3: Right, But what a great insult, do you know what

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, insult put on a dress to skip out on

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his duty.

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Speaker 2: You die in that cold water like a man so titanic.

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Speaker 1: Thompson was born in Monnett, Missouri, about an hour's drive

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away from Chapel Roane's hometown of Willard, Missouri.

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Speaker 2: And we're not making her a thing like this is

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an evergreen content rob. She's going to be not like

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a thing in six months, so there's no reason to

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ever mention her.

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Speaker 3: I just know way more people that don't know.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea who this bitch is.

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Speaker 3: We could have given it time, give it time.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't lost two times. Chapel Rone is blowing up.

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Speaker 3: She's titanic ing, for sure. She is blowing it up

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for sure.

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Speaker 1: Even though he was born there, he grew up fifty

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miles south in Arkansas, and it came from a proud

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line of gamblers. And by that I mean his father

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lost all his money and ran out on the family.

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Speaker 3: Delco Any are you feeling any?

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Speaker 2: I mean there was a couple of years there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where your dad gambled.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, my dad gambled a lot. He always like, no,

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it wasn't move it was just you know, teasers or

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just a little work parlays. I'm like, just fun stuff.

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I don't know I remember you hitting up your bookie

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on the phone like every Friday, And I like this line.

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He had a bookie, he had a bookie.

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Speaker 1: Give me the birds money line.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I mean I'm an actual bookie too. It's not

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the same feel right.

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Speaker 1: Like not because you're on the internet. It's so really.

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Speaker 2: It's all through like telegram nowadays. And you know, yeah,

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they live down the street, right, like this is local.

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This is like he knows the guy.

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Speaker 3: It's scarier, it's more real. That's gambling.

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Speaker 2: I've never I've never met my bookie. We are all

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we do soft hands gambling. We don't do real gambling. Yes,

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it's still very much real.

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Speaker 3: No, what is the threat, by the way, sorry because

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I don't understand, But what is the threat to you?

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If you can't pay?

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Speaker 2: It's still mafia.

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Speaker 3: It's still break your legs?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Or is it just like collector?

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Speaker 2: Because no, it's he's not my book He won't do it,

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but the guy above him will if you don't pay, Yeah,

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you don't hit him back on because I do know

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where the like lineage goes, and it's it is still mafia.

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Oh you know the pyramid, Yeah, I know how it goes.

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Speaker 3: You've said too much already.

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Speaker 2: They kind of want business, so yeah, they will.

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Speaker 1: Actually they give you money for referring people to them.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, it's fine, nobody's coming after us.

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Speaker 3: And they want you to be scared of not paying.

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Speaker 1: I am, I shouldn't be, maybe because sometimes it's an

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unspoken agreement. Yeah, you just it's better not to poke

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the bear, right, you don't really want to fuck around?

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Speaker 3: Fine, I literally can't imagine not paying, right though. Yeah,

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I think we've like on the world.

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Speaker 1: But the people who really do that are the ones

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who are like addicted pieces of shit, insane. Not well,

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there's a difference between me and him getting a little

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drunk and be like fuck I lost eight hundred dollars or.

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Speaker 2: Him like two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: And between that and like that's like the same things.

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It's like worried about being murdered, where like unless with us,

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we unless we're actively involved in breaking crimes like drug deals, Yeah,

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our chances of getting murdered or almost zero. And since

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you're not married to an abusive man, your chances of

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getting murdered or almost zero. So like it's just being

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worried about being murdered, like it's the same thing. It's like, oh,

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that could happened to me. But it's dude, I'm obviously

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gonna pay.

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Speaker 2: I also have a well established relationship with this man,

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so I've used him for like almost a decade. At

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this point, I don't want to find someone new. Yeah,

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right aspect, If I don't pay him, I just can

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never use him again. And it's like, all right, I

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guess I just won't gamble anymore. That's not an option.

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Speaker 1: How Never, how Titanic wasn't murdered by the way, I

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have no idea, And we're going to get into all

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that right now. In nineteen oh eight, at the age

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of sixteen, Titanic left home with a dollar in his pocket,

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a desire to hustle, and no ability to read or write.

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You have to nineteen oh eight, you're in Missouri, you're literate.

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You just want to gamble?

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Speaker 3: Do you really have to read that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, By the way, I know, the Discord

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thinks I'm like illiterate and I can't read, or that

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my brain's evolving now with the show, because I am

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reading and writing more thanks to the show. But man,

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I'm I'm at least on a fifth grade reading level.

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Speaker 3: I mean, people think you can't read.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of a yeah, a joke that goes back

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to grandex.

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Speaker 3: You're literally a writer.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole segment called Dan Does's words.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a thing where he can read and write excellently,

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But reading aloud is it entirely different skill that sure

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anything else, Which is why I always I would always

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say when people were like dunking on Biden twenty twenty,

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like he has to read off a teleprompter, I'm like,

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I don't think you know that that's a skill.

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Speaker 3: Oh seriously, if you gave them whoever saying that, if

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you gave him right, then they'd be like uh uh

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slow down and then one way. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's so you can say whatever you want

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about the guy. But like I was like, I won't

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stand for teleprompter slander. Like that's not easy to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was awful trying to read in church. Oh yeah,

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when I had to get in front of the entire congregation.

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Speaker 3: From more like nerves than knowing how to nerves.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like a guy who gets nervous for

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that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty even with everything. But it's just kind of

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looking at the page. It's going from brain to mouth

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even when I speak, I have no idea where it's going, right, clearly, Yeah,

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that's where you need to have the It's a disconnect

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you need to have.

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Speaker 1: It's it's an irrational confidence really to be like, yeah,

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I saw that right, and I'm gonna shoot it out

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my mouth now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. True.

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Speaker 2: I think it's when I came out as a baby,

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had a lack of oxygen with the umbilical corde wrapped

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around my throat, and then I was also in the ICU,

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the baby little ICU for like a nick you yeah

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for an yeah by myself that.

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Speaker 3: Was your dad gambling or what happened probably yeah, yeah yeah.

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So they're just like looks, they're watching him.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's taking care of he's taking.

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Speaker 3: Care of, recovering is everywhere.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't need love and affection. So were you not

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touched for the first month of your life?

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Speaker 3: I think so makes so much.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Because you know what happens when a baby's born.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: The first thing.

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Speaker 2: They do, I mean I don't remember, no, yeah, so

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the first.

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Speaker 1: Thing they do is skinned skin, skinned skin, The very

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first thing they want to happen is for that baby to.

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Speaker 3: Be touched by somebody. It could be dad, it could

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be whatever. Literally just a human skin, because if it's a.

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Speaker 1: C section, I have not done it, but a lot

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of friends I've seen, like guy friends when their wife

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had a sea section or whatever, yeah, or if something.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: When I came out though, they're like, can he work yet? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Like he needs to contribute at this point, which you

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were You weren't always a couple of seconds old? Get

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him on the factory line.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, they tried to get you on the m

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night Shyamal online.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I did try out for signs.

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Speaker 3: You did. Oh that's right, as the as a kid,

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as the.

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Speaker 1: Kid as Kieran Culkin, Like he's going to get that.

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Speaker 3: But like, why are the auditioning people if they have Kieran?

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Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like that was line of us.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't you, It wasn't you. They were trying to

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do local higher ship, but they knew they weren't going to.

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They probably loved your performance.

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Speaker 2: I bet my life is two percent different if I

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actually get that role, Like I'm probably still here.

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Speaker 3: That's true because it was a Kulkin already, So we

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can't say that like, oh, you would have the trajectory.

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Speaker 2: Right, I would have just been, oh, like that's a

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cool little oh you're the king. Fact about my history.

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I was the kid in's signed.

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Speaker 1: How old were you in two thousand and two?

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and two, I would have been eleven.

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Speaker 1: You're addicted to drugs. You probably go the round of

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mac miller and you're gone.

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Speaker 3: You and Joaquen like become good friends, which is not

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a good idea. Your parents don't like it, right, But

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he's fucking rad. You're cool, you know what I mean.

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So you guys start hanging out way too young. Yeah,

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you're in clubs by he's taking you to the clubs

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because you're fucking chill. You don't snitch.

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Speaker 1: You don't remember falling asleep at a studio executive's house

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when you're fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's all suppressed. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then next thing you know, I mean, you're living

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in a house in Santa Clarita, renting a house in

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Santa Clarita.

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Speaker 2: Working at six character actor, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are playing a character bugs Bunny.

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Speaker 2: Is that at six f Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think that's the only character they're like allowed to

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have a six flins.

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Speaker 2: I have the Warner Brothers. Not much different than my

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actual life in Orlando. I tried out for Gustan.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that would have been great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's probably when I didn't get the role.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Gustan.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, oh that would have been perfect, though, go

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back and Tristan.

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Speaker 2: No one fucks like Gustan.

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Speaker 3: Does he not sound exactly means?

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Speaker 1: Yes, he looks like he would tell you not to read.

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Speaker 2: Gaistan's kind of a hero, right, hmm.

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Speaker 1: There's an animal living in a castle they didn't know

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about in the woods, holding a woman hostage. This man

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wants to get her back, a sentient bear dog who

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can speak, and they're.

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Speaker 2: Just supposed to be cool with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They've burned people alive for so much less at that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's down with bestiality all of a sudden. Yeah,

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he wants to fuck Bell. The only literate woman in

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the town surely falls in love with him because she

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gets Cavin fever.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Stockholm say Rome, uh, what is it? Florence Nightingale?

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Speaker 3: Yeah effect, Yeah, yeah, it's I think it's more of

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a Stockholm but it's also just manly beast. It's really

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a tale about our primal desires. Because when he turns

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into the prince, girls, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, he's a French prince Ghistan.

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Speaker 3: Know when the beast turned on to it.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna Saystan's kind of beefy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the It's the animalistic representation of Gustan. Right,

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So listen, Gaston, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: You'd a hairless chest.

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Speaker 3: You keep saying, Gustan, You got me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

469
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,519
Speaker 3: What what woman doesn't want to be cradled by a giant?

470
00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: Okay, a hairy giant.

471
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, that is just what it is.

472
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,279
Speaker 2: Hello folks.

473
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,759
Speaker 3: Hello.

474
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,839
Speaker 1: So Titanic went all across the South and Central United States,

475
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,160
hustling and all sorts of games and sports. He won

476
00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:04,759
money playing car cards, playing dice, hustling billiards, hustling horseshoes.

477
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:07,680
I'm awful at pool uh, and also hustle. He also

478
00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:08,400
hustled in golf.

479
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,559
Speaker 2: It's the only sport I played left handed.

480
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: That's really bizarre. That might be way bad at it.

481
00:22:13,519 --> 00:22:16,559
Probably you're just using the long hand.

482
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: Where do you guys go? Where do we go?

483
00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: Boomers?

484
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,559
Speaker 3: Go to boomers. Let's get you on the right track. Yeah,

485
00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:25,839
you would be good if you're good at golf and

486
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,480
everything else.

487
00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay golf. I'm not great at golf.

488
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: You're probably in like the fucking one percent in golf.

489
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: I'm shooting the like mid eighties. Sometimes I can get

490
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,000
down to the seventies. Yeah that's the one percent.

491
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Scott's Scott Peterson.

492
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 2: But sure you're.

493
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: Getting the difference in the one percent. It's like the

494
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,799
one percent of America that makes like four hundred between

495
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:47,279
four hundred thousand dollars and a billion dollars, you know

496
00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:49,759
what I mean, Like that's it's true. Yeah, so you're

497
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:51,839
making like five hundred grand a year, right, you know,

498
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Jeff Bezos.

499
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Scotty Scheffler. But you're still technically in

500
00:22:55,319 --> 00:22:56,240
the one Yeah.

501
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 3: You're hanging out at the party, you know what I mean,

502
00:22:58,559 --> 00:22:59,400
they're inviting you.

503
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a cousin Greg, literally the cousin Greg a golf.

504
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,039
Speaker 1: Titanic, And this is where I wonder why Titanic didn't

505
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:12,079
get murdered. He would also make up prop bets on

506
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,200
the spot and win money that way. For instance, the

507
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,680
one where he could jump over a pool table.

508
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would just do stuff like that.

509
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: But he had other prop bets too, and all these

510
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,440
prop bets were really just him fucking people over.

511
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,319
Speaker 2: He could do yes, and he knew he could jump.

512
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,039
Speaker 1: Over the pool table, so he made the pool table bet.

513
00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:36,279
Or for example, he uh he would say to somebody like, hey, pa,

514
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,759
fifty bucks, as I can throw this he a walnut

515
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,240
over that that building. And what they wouldn't know is

516
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,160
that he had waited the hollowed out shell with lead

517
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,039
to make it heavier so he could throw it further.

518
00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:51,519
Then like a hollow like hollow woodball won't travel.

519
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: The same distance. It's like a heavy Yeah.

520
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: So no though, yeah, no fairs when they didn't know that,

521
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,880
didn't check the walnut. Who waits a walnut?

522
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: True? Uh. He would also.

523
00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:06,839
Speaker 1: Move road mileage signs closer to town than going to town

524
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,920
and be like, who wants to bet me that that

525
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,799
road mileage sign out there is about a quarter mile

526
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,960
closer than I drove right by it, And I thought

527
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,200
to myself, that's about a quarter mile off.

528
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:21,279
Speaker 3: Who are these degenerate fucks like? They're taking these fucking

529
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:22,200
beds just.

530
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: Like the music man comes to town and he's like,

531
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,960
the one thing, I know, that sign isn't close enough. Yeah,

532
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,400
and then they're like, i'll bet you fifty dollars it is.

533
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,319
And then he's already fucking moved it.

534
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,799
Speaker 3: So and like who is this guy?

535
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just a drifter comes in, do you know what

536
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,279
I mean?

537
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: And you go like, oh, jake the bet you know?

538
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,839
Speaker 2: Shoot up?

539
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he takes their money. They what's the saying

540
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,839
it's a sin to let suckers keep their money or

541
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,440
something like that.

542
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say something about drifters coming

543
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:53,839
into the bar. No, always take that action. Yeah, I

544
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,920
have no idea. We'll never never take a hobos prop bet. No,

545
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,200
God never their magic man.

546
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:04,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the nineteen twenties, and this is especially where

547
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,359
I wonder how he didn't get murdered.

548
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: He bet.

549
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Allegedly, he bet al Capone's men in Chicago about fifty

550
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:20,839
thousand dollars in that time's money. Hey, that he could

551
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,319
drive a golf ball five hundred yards off the.

552
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: Tee if he was on the driveway.

553
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,279
Speaker 1: They said, I'll take that bet. You're a fucking liar.

554
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,440
There's no way you can do that. Well, it happened

555
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,240
to be winter in Chicago, so he went out to

556
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:42,680
Lake Michigan, hit the ball onto the frozen water and

557
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,240
it just fucking bounce, slid five hundred yards.

558
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: And so it was like, technically, yes.

559
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: Yes, a drive isn't in the air.

560
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: Drives this way. He stops.

561
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

562
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I.

563
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,599
Speaker 1: Believe in today's money, that would be pushing two million dollars.

564
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: What a bunch of that would have been funny if

565
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,960
it's just to go.

566
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:08,039
Speaker 3: To huh Chicago. Yeah, I guess, jeez.

567
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: The smartest folks, I'm sorry, in eighteen, in nineteen twenty five,

568
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,079
I'm just splitting the decade and a half, it would

569
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,519
have win eight hundred and ninety eight thousand dollars that

570
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:18,880
he wanted two seconds.

571
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if he duffed it off the tea?

572
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,519
Yeah all right, pay off, buddy. Yeah, there's still a

573
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:28,400
little pressure there. He's still got to hit it pretty well.

574
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,440
There is. We'll got to reach the lake.

575
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:35,319
Speaker 1: We'll get to his golf skills. But it was said

576
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,720
that even though Thompson was illiterate at least when he

577
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,960
left home, he was really good with numbers, a really

578
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,920
good athlete, and had freakish hand eye coordination, hence being

579
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,279
a pool hustler, a golf hustler, a horseshoes hostler, jumping

580
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:52,240
over pool tables on the fly, which is insane.

581
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: Probably accuracy with random bets. We don't know even all

582
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:57,440
the dumb bets that he did.

583
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: He was betting every second of every day.

584
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the worth that you question, right, Yeah,

585
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,880
he has all these skills, he can do all these

586
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,000
different things, but he's still living a life of crime.

587
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: But you say that every time about a con man.

588
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:14,119
Right where you go if you put this much effort

589
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,400
into something that was like legal, right, or college or

590
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,720
like learning something like the lies and the keeping everything together, if.

591
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: You literally just something more honorable or just like.

592
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,279
Speaker 3: You rule the world because they're actually in this weird way,

593
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,160
you know, the best of us, the best of us.

594
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're better than anyone.

595
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: They know how to read the room, they know how

596
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,000
to manipulate.

597
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't want that life salesman.

598
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: They're not a role model. They weren't made. They weren't

599
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:46,279
made to lead.

600
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: No.

601
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: Uh, we'll get want though, because people ask him, they

602
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000
offer him a or say will you take this legitimate job?

603
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: And he has a answer to your question.

604
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,319
Speaker 1: He was also a crack shot, great with a gun.

605
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:08,319
Before he left. Before he left home, his uncles his

606
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,119
dad was of course gone, ran out, but his uncles

607
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,319
knew he was like a precise shooter. Allegedly he could

608
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,279
take down a bird between the eyes from fifty yards

609
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:20,200
away with a rifle.

610
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Really well, are we sure? Because if you hit a

611
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,559
bird between the eyes, the whole head's gone, right, he's gone.

612
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: What's the ruse here? What happens?

613
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,319
Speaker 2: No, he was really good.

614
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,279
Speaker 1: He was at one point a skill shooter in Captain

615
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,599
Adam Henry Bogertus's Miracle Medicine shows like a knockoff Buffalo

616
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,480
traveling like Buffalo Bill Show. In the show, he would

617
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,720
entertain onlookers by shooting pie tons and cabbages out of

618
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:50,440
the air. He would also trick viewers. I guess he

619
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,000
couldn't pull this off. He would trick viewers into thinking

620
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,759
he shot a silver dollar out of the air.

621
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,119
Speaker 2: So that that's what I mean.

622
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: Like, even with the bird, I'm like, what what was

623
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,599
the trick?

624
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,119
Speaker 2: I don't know.

625
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: The between can't happen because the bullet will just rip

626
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,079
the bird's head. I mean, maybe if it's like ripping

627
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:09,079
the whole bird. Maybe if it's like an eagle, it

628
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,200
goes through the skull, but like a pigeon, a dove,

629
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:13,200
you're just obliterating it.

630
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing left. You can't check that, you can't confirmation.

631
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,279
But I mean, still he hit his head. It's pretty accurate.

632
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,359
Speaker 1: So basically there was a minute while in his early

633
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:25,799
gambling days where he was also earning a living as

634
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,559
a freak show carneye like the boy with the miracle

635
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:34,079
eyes can shoot anything, but he was Lar.

636
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: Was not high back then, Jesse, okay.

637
00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: For any kind of.

638
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: Oh really odd I people needed television. Television saved you know.

639
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:50,160
I think it was Kurt Vonnegut who said America's roam

640
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680
and television is our lead, the lead in our wine

641
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,240
or whatever. Yeah, like, oh, televisions rotting our brain. Do

642
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,079
you know what people did before television. We did an

643
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:03,599
episode on this once where at one point some shitty

644
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,519
tiny circus had come through some shitty tiny town and

645
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:10,400
one of their elephants, it wasn't the topsy episode is

646
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,880
one of my episodes. One of their elephants had trampled

647
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,920
somebody who had who was like some trainer who had

648
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,799
been torturing it. Yeah, right, elephant's super smart. Yeah, all

649
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:22,240
that stuff.

650
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: They literally game.

651
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have funerals for them for each other. So anyway,

652
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:31,359
the elephant had to discipline the elephant. I'll try to

653
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,720
I don't remember what episode this isn't, but the circus

654
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:35,240
people were like, well, we got to discipline this elephant

655
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,920
so it doesn't uh bash someone's brains in again with

656
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,079
its foot, right, we just need to be allowed to

657
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:42,119
torture and it needs to know that.

658
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: So they took it out into the woods outside of town.

659
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: The townspeople know, hey, we're gonna be disciplining an elephant

660
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880
tonight in the forest. If you'd like to come watch

661
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,720
whole town shows up. There's nothing on television, since television

662
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,920
doesn't exist, not even radio.

663
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: At this point.

664
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,559
Speaker 1: This is like the turn of the century, probably like

665
00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:00,400
we're probably right around the time nineteen oh eight, eighteen nineties,

666
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:00,799
something like that.

667
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: There hadn't been an execution in quite some time.

668
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,519
Speaker 1: No one had been hanged in the months. So they

669
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,920
got in the middle of the woods and to watch

670
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,160
this elephant get chained to four trees by its legs

671
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,680
and all this stuff. So they can't move and then

672
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,799
the circus Carnie freaks. Uh, just light a fire under

673
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:21,519
the elephant, stop and just burn it for a while.

674
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Every time you do it on purpose, Well.

675
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:30,519
Speaker 5: You brought you jog my memory, I know, but geez,

676
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,319
but that always like a pig on fire or like, yeah,

677
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:39,039
that's what happened before Sandford and Sun right, you understand, right, Like, oh,

678
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:41,200
you think mister beast is stupid.

679
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, try watching a beast. Yeah, taking your kid to

680
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,880
watch a beast be burned.

681
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,519
Speaker 3: Right, But it's also not just right in its you

682
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,680
know face, it's not a screen right in the face. Huh.

683
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,480
But no, you're right. What's yeah, what's worse? I don't know.

684
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I think the elephant part is probably together, like no,

685
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,480
it kind of prepares them for the rest of life, for.

686
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,599
Speaker 3: The rest of that life, in those years, Yeah, for sure,

687
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,440
for sure it's letting you know. Yeah, like it's not good.

688
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that one of the kids there was

689
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:15,839
probably burned alive in the First World War.

690
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: So yes, So it was like, I know what this is,

691
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,680
Like I saw, I saw an elephant go through this.

692
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:21,440
It's not great.

693
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen a sentient creature on fire before.

694
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:26,559
Speaker 3: Bring it on.

695
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:29,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was a great He was a great

696
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,920
shot though. From nineteen fifty one and nineteen fifty four,

697
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,839
four years in a row, he won the Arizona State

698
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,759
trap shooting contest, Okay, which I guess is the thing.

699
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: But he was and it was legit. Yeah, you know

700
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,079
what I mean, Like, so there were judges. He's also

701
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:44,720
winning legit shit.

702
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was legitimately hand eye eyesight.

703
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,759
Speaker 2: Incredible.

704
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: But unfortunately life as an illiterate gambling drifter wasn't all

705
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,079
sunshine and ponies.

706
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:59,119
Speaker 3: What delco? Is that true?

707
00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,799
Speaker 2: It's been sounding?

708
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:02,039
Speaker 3: Was that true?

709
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: I'm not hearing about any woman in his life. We'll

710
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,119
get to that. That's his downfall, isn't it. We'll get

711
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:09,599
to it.

712
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Oh.

713
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: In nineteen ten, at the age of seventeen, Thompson killed

714
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,160
his first man.

715
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:20,559
Speaker 2: Seventeen Huh what so this was all before he was

716
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,359
what essentially a junior in high school.

717
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is junior year of high school. His

718
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:31,160
junior year of high school, Thompson killed his first bit. Alright,

719
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:32,319
wait really yeah?

720
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,759
Speaker 3: Wait? Okay, so all the other stuff happened when he.

721
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,559
Speaker 1: Was fifteen sixteen, he left, He left his house at

722
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:43,599
the age of sixteen. I kind of was skipping around

723
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,759
is to tell you stuff. Okay, we get a little

724
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:47,200
more chronological, got it, got it?

725
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,599
Speaker 2: Okay.

726
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:50,519
Speaker 1: So he was in Roal, Arkansas, and a man named

727
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:55,039
Jim Johnson accused him of cheating at dice. The boat

728
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,960
they were traveling on actually belonged to Titanic Thompson, as

729
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,079
he'd recently won it from the former owner of the

730
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:03,920
boat gambling.

731
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: I know why you did this episode. My dad threw

732
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,800
batteries at Jim Johnson. Don't think it's the same, Jim Johnson.

733
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,119
Speaker 3: That's not why you did the episode.

734
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,679
Speaker 1: No, No, that's not why.

735
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,079
Speaker 2: No, he was. He was one of the Eagles fans

736
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:19,639
that threw batteries at Jimmy Johnson.

737
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's why he picked it. Yeah, you got him.

738
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,559
Speaker 2: There's a little bit more of a connection than you think,

739
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:26,559
Rob apparently.

740
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

741
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: But what this really shows is I think this was

742
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,159
you in a pass life. And then my grandfather threw

743
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,599
snowballs at Santa. Yeah.

744
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,079
Speaker 1: I think this was you in a pass life, is

745
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,320
what I'm saying. This is your sort of like inherited memories.

746
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you're not gonna, you know, connect with

747
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,400
every single thing. But it's going the entire time. You're

748
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,599
gonna feel viscerally like you. He's telling your story.

749
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: History doesn't repeat at rhymes. Yes.

750
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: So Titanic had won the boat from a friend of

751
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,280
Johnson's and Johnson was like, fuck you, you're cheating at dice.

752
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,480
So Johnson accuses Titanic of it and throws him off.

753
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: The boat, just draws him off the boat into the river.

754
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,360
That would never cheat, that'll kill.

755
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:13,119
Speaker 1: Titanic climbs back onto the boat, and Johnson pulls a

756
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:16,760
knife on Titanic's girlfriend and is like, you better get

757
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,639
the fuck off this boat or I'm gonna cut your lady.

758
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

759
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: See yeah, So Titanic grabs a hammer, bashes Johnson's head

760
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,599
in what happens, and then throws Johnson overboard, and Johnson.

761
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,159
Speaker 2: Drowns okay, unscathed, girlfriend unscathed.

762
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: When asked if he had any remorse for the killing,

763
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,000
Titanic said that he did not because it was Johnson's

764
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,760
fault that he didn't know how to swim.

765
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:49,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, better call him also true for me, true him

766
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,719
off first. Johnson threw him off first. I get tossed

767
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,719
up the boat and I climb back in those days.

768
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: Well, I just don't think Johnson was conscious since he

769
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:01,880
smashed his head with a hammer a couple of times

770
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,079
and then threw him off the boat.

771
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:08,119
Speaker 2: But he was also thrown off before, so like you

772
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,239
saw him come back on the boat, pulled a knife

773
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,760
on his girl.

774
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: Titanic, help me, listen, I'm just here to have fun.

775
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,960
If someone wants to save me, that's.

776
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,559
Speaker 2: Up to them. I belong to whoever's on the boat lift.

777
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:24,599
Speaker 3: Whoever wants to save me is cool with me.

778
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,039
Speaker 1: So of course the local sheriff gets involved. There's been

779
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:35,000
a murder, and uh, he says to Titanic, listen, pal,

780
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:38,679
we take murder seriously around here. So we're you gotta

781
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,320
go to trial unless you give me the deed to

782
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,719
the boat and get the hell out of town.

783
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:46,079
Speaker 3: No problem.

784
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,199
Speaker 1: So Titanic's like, sure, here's the deed of the boat.

785
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,519
Gets the hell out of town. Murder solved.

786
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well some new further investigation.

787
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, we know you did it. Sounds like

788
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:00,679
it was a fifty fifth the situation.

789
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that self defense.

790
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:09,039
Speaker 3: The only witness is a gal and we don't trust.

791
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah.

792
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighteen, Titanic was drafted into World War One. Sadly,

793
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,119
we never got to unleash him on the Germans. Titanic was, however,

794
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,079
unleashed on American troops. Oh.

795
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:25,159
Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna say it was a draft dodger.

796
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:26,199
No he was not.

797
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: He was in the following basic training where he excelled.

798
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: He was a great soldier by all accounts.

799
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,639
Speaker 1: He was promoted this sergeant, but he remained in the States,

800
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:39,599
uh to train other draftees to be sent overseas.

801
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: They just thought he was such a good shot that

802
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,639
he trained them pretty much.

803
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and such a good so good at basic training.

804
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,599
They're like, you're good, you know, you're you understand stuff.

805
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,599
We're gonna keep he's good at physical fitness. Yeah, we're

806
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:50,360
gonna keep you here.

807
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: Uh to just you know, like, so far he hasn't

808
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,519
done anything wrong in my eyes, I don't think.

809
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: So, you know, sorry about someone who's necessarily doing anything wrong.

810
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,519
A story about a man who lived.

811
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: A life listen, got his money, how he from people

812
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:13,159
that we're gonna give it to someone else.

813
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: They weren't going to keep it.

814
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,639
Speaker 3: They weren't going to keep it. It was going somewhere. He

815
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,400
was just there to take it revenge killing eye for

816
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,519
an eye. I mean, let's fucking go.

817
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm in Yeah, I have no judgment really this man

818
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,480
in terms of, well, there'll be one thing, but uh

819
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:38,679
in general that in general whatever, well, yeah, for the

820
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,519
most part is whatever.

821
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 3: Again, there was no guns to anyone's head. It was

822
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,400
a bet, and if you fucking take it, the money's here.

823
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: If you if a stranger comes into town with such

824
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,599
an odd.

825
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,679
Speaker 3: Bet, it's clearly figured out beforehand.

826
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,039
Speaker 1: Like if a stranger walking into the studio and was like, hey,

827
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,960
you and the Eagles Jersey, I bet you your car

828
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:06,920
has a flat tire. Yeah, and you're like, well, I

829
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,039
parked my car here hours ago and there was no

830
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,880
flat tire. There mustn't be a flat tire. Then you

831
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,039
walk outside and there's a fucking knife in your tire.

832
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, who done it? Yeah?

833
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

834
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: Well I never you pay fifty thousand dollars yea yeah, yeah,

835
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:23,599
but you really got me that done it.

836
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,519
Speaker 2: You're a clever one. So I mean, people up until

837
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,960
I think people are idiots now, But back then, boy

838
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:35,840
was it easy.

839
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: To rubs the entire musical music man, which this guy

840
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,360
kind of reminded me of like a dirtier version of that. Uh,

841
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,800
it's just like a guy going to a town to

842
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,039
trick them into buying instruments. Yeah, and he's done that

843
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:52,199
all over the place.

844
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a racket.

845
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: They didn't know what they didn't know.

846
00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he was charged with training new recruit. Titanic

847
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,719
was a trusted figure amongst the young men who were

848
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,960
training to go overseas man of honor fighting a terrifying war.

849
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:12,800
So naturally he took them for all the money he could.

850
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I was gonna say, he

851
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,639
taught them some rations.

852
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: He taught them gambling, and then took their money and

853
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:25,639
sent them to the trenches to die.

854
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: Fucking a Really, they don't need the money when they're there.

855
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: He taught them how to gamble. Okay, then then this

856
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:34,320
is one of the best gamblers in the country. He

857
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,639
taught them how to gamble, then gambled with them, yeah,

858
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:39,320
and beat them handily.

859
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 3: Again.

860
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,599
Speaker 1: He left the army in November nineteen eighteen after the

861
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:51,239
war ended, having won fifty thousand dollars from his troops,

862
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,480
so which today would be about a million dollars.

863
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: Okay, where else is that money going to go? They

864
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,360
could have kept it. I guess Army's gonna take care

865
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,119
of you for a little bit.

866
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,599
Speaker 3: Army's gonna take what is that like, arrested development. I'm

867
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:11,800
going back to Army mother. Army will take care of me.

868
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,079
Speaker 2: You may now. I mean this is probably one of

869
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,199
the most successful trip stories out there for him.

870
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're identifying with him more and more

871
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,719
with every story, right, Yeah, you're like, yeah, and they

872
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,760
wanted to you know, they wanted to gamble.

873
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: He's not forcing anyone's hand here. No, he's offer he's

874
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,039
offering up opportunities and that's it.

875
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:45,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fair enough. So after the war, after he

876
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:48,400
got out, he hit the ground running on road gambling.

877
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,119
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll just.

878
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:53,639
Speaker 1: Going from town to town hustling gambling. Love it, fresh meat, yeah,

879
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,320
all the stuff.

880
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: Again.

881
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: One of his h hustling buddies was Minnesota Fats, who

882
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,159
considered Titanic genius quote the greatest action man of all time.

883
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:06,199
Speaker 3: What a great description.

884
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: And at this point Titanic was becoming like a legend,

885
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,639
like famous nationwide for his gambling, billiards and so on.

886
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:19,599
People knew who he was, They knew he was a

887
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,480
famous gambler. They knew he made a lot of money,

888
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:26,880
and perhaps because they wanted to come at the king.

889
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:27,679
Speaker 3: Mm.

890
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,119
Speaker 1: If you can't beat him, rob him.

891
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that hasn't happened.

892
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,199
Speaker 2: Yet, do you know what I mean, he's gotten this far?

893
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: My god?

894
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:41,119
Speaker 2: Also, can we now refer to you as Missouri Pales?

895
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: Missouri Pales, I like the state, and then some kind

896
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,039
of rescription?

897
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:51,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, if you're gonna call me Titanic, I'm

898
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:55,239
good with calling you Missouri Pales. Was there Pales? I'm

899
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,320
fine with making fun of my skin tone? But is

900
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,119
there a better word?

901
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: It's not fat, you guys aren't fat, but the like

902
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,559
Philly fats, like you know, the fats after it's fucking great.

903
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:12,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, Missouri says Missouri whitesna.

904
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: Calm down, Yeah, calm down. So Missouri supremacy, I don't know.

905
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried to rob him, but Titanic killed again.

906
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,719
Yeah this time.

907
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:26,599
Speaker 2: He pushed this man too.

908
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: Fu I mean, honestly, would tell me, go ahead, tell

909
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:29,880
me something bad?

910
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? This time.

911
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: It was nineteen nineteen in Saint Louis, Thompson shot two men,

912
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,239
he claimed in self defense because they're trying to steal

913
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,840
his gambling winnings. This time, the local police weren't so

914
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,760
wishy washy.

915
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: They didn't need a boat for the town.

916
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: They were just like, thanks for killing them. They were

917
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,320
actually bank robbers, so I'm glad you killed them. Really yeah,

918
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,119
oh they were like, good job, Titanic, come back anytime.

919
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: The guy's fucking legend, dude, she's.

920
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,039
Speaker 2: Taking the law in his own hands. So he's got

921
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:04,119
three bodies. He's a vigilante.

922
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Three bodies so far. And by the way, nineteen nineteen,

923
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,440
so he is like he is, uh, he's nineteen. No,

924
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:16,280
he's uh twenty six Okay, twenty six years old.

925
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. All you've described so far is just like nineteen

926
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,000
twenties Batman.

927
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of nineteen twenties.

928
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: He's not solving crimes. He's accidentally killing criminals vigilantes.

929
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: He's cleaning up the streets, do you know what I mean?

930
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

931
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: The third time he killed came in Saint Joseph, Missouri,

932
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:45,079
where Thompson and his hired bodyguard uh lit up a

933
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:47,119
bunch of guys who tried to rob a poker game.

934
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,079
And again, the guy who's trying to rob the poker

935
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:53,480
game were known criminals who So the sheriffs were like,

936
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:55,519
thank you for your service.

937
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,559
Speaker 3: Yes, vigilante. Yeah, this is Gotham right here.

938
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: He's just killed people and it's all good.

939
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's all in self defense.

940
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: He's charismatic, he's rich.

941
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:11,159
Speaker 4: Maybe the first one was a little egregious, right because

942
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:12,960
there was no like physical threat.

943
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't think he was the first one was very

944
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,239
much a physical threat.

945
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: He threw he pulled a knife on his girlfriend. He

946
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,719
got on the boat, tossed off a boat. Is I

947
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,679
wouldn't call a full physical threat. Maybe if you can't dog, If.

948
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:27,599
Speaker 2: You throw me off a boat, I'm murdering you. Yeah

949
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,039
the guy, no, he didn't. You don't know. There was

950
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:32,480
an intent to kill. There was an intent to get

951
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:32,760
him off.

952
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,199
Speaker 1: You get tossed off a boat, people want you dead.

953
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,920
It's a boat on a on a tiny river.

954
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 4: It's not like if you if you push me into

955
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,480
a pool at a pool party, I will shoot you

956
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:43,960
in the face.

957
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:44,559
Speaker 2: That's fair.

958
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, I hear you right right.

959
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: Like we're grabbing beers out of a tub. You push

960
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,679
me into the tub, it's on side.

961
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:54,199
Speaker 1: Into the tub.

962
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: Done.

963
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: How would your how would your you a five year

964
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,960
old day. Yeah, how would your five year old six

965
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,079
year old react if someone pushed.

966
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: You in the pool?

967
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 3: Pushed me in the pool?

968
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have a I'm gonna explain this question.

969
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: Oh okay, uh, he might laugh or not notice.

970
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,519
Speaker 2: What's okay?

971
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: So one time I was at a situation with this

972
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,559
girl I was dating, and she had a nephew who

973
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:19,360
at the time was five, and I thought it was weird.

974
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,679
And I still don't know because I've never been around

975
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,159
a five year old regularly, right, not since my siblings

976
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:29,320
were five. Yeah, and one of her brothers pushed her

977
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,000
sister in law, who was the mother of the five

978
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,199
year old. So like uncle pushes mom.

979
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, And this was back in the day when that

980
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,800
was okay, twenty eleven, you can push girls into the pool.

981
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 3: It was funny.

982
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,639
Speaker 1: Whatever uncle pushes mom into the pool?

983
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: Was the five year old pulled out a gun?

984
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: He would have if he had one, because did he

985
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:55,440
do it? Looked he reacted in a way that it

986
00:46:55,559 --> 00:47:00,679
was as if his STOPO agent came in and knelt

987
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,480
his mother down and put a bullet in the back

988
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:02,960
of her head.

989
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:07,159
Speaker 3: Is he going after the guy? Is he just freaking out?

990
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 4: Like she's dead, melt down like she's dead, which I

991
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,119
was like, that's weird.

992
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: It is weird, right.

993
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

994
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,119
Speaker 1: At the time, I was like.

995
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: What a bitch.

996
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,119
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this problem? And I don't

997
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:21,920
want I didn't say like, but I was like, he's

998
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,840
a little sad sensitive. Yeah, But like I'm a little

999
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,559
less that way now because I have kids and I

1000
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,039
understand a little more. But like I still at five though,

1001
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:33,039
I'm like a five year old boy.

1002
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: If your kid did that, though, if Cordney got pushed

1003
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,400
into a pool, you would be like, bro, not right

1004
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,039
now as a three year old, as a three year old.

1005
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: But as a five year old, yes, I would be

1006
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,719
like what, I don't know, Rob, oh, Tom pushed your

1007
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,320
wife into a pool, I would hope Rory would just

1008
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,039
like sock.

1009
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: Him, yes, socking him, or like being like what the fuck?

1010
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,920
Getting mad is different than having a meltdown as if

1011
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,480
she was murdered, because babies go. Babies go through stages

1012
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:04,079
that like if they don't see their mom, like if

1013
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:08,639
she goes behind a yeah, like a wall, in their mind,

1014
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,960
she's gone and dead forever, right, And so he was

1015
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:19,440
almost It's like, yeah, over time, overtime they learn like, oh, okay,

1016
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,239
she's the wall is a thing. She's on the other

1017
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,239
side of whatever this five year old was in the

1018
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,679
first wonder week.

1019
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: You also have no idea what that five year old

1020
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,159
went through in the first five years.

1021
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't actually, for all I know, two years prior

1022
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
to that a clown showed up to their house and

1023
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,079
tried to drown his mother in front of him.

1024
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that. That is exactly what I was saying,

1025
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:49,280
like some pts, just like mommy can't wrong, not probably not, Yeah,

1026
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:52,440
I think it's more than likely. It's not more than likely,

1027
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:55,320
but I guess we can't rule it out. It's almost

1028
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,360
ninety five percent positive that's what happened.

1029
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,599
Speaker 3: Okay, you haven't met any of the kids.

1030
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, well, Dan also believes that ninety couples swing

1031
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,239
a cheater swing.

1032
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,199
Speaker 2: You do not cheater swing. You believe that I do,

1033
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,039
like into their fifty sixty seventies.

1034
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: When when they're fifties, when is.

1035
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,599
Speaker 2: I don't know what. It doesn't matter when it starts

1036
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,039
as well, as long as they're together, and they're together

1037
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,639
like married couples for the rest of their life. They

1038
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:24,840
don't get divorced. They don't bring up. At some point

1039
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,719
they're going to get cheated on or swing an Usually

1040
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,880
it probably starts around like fifty so empty nest age. Yeah,

1041
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,440
what's the kids?

1042
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: You're gone nine out of ten?

1043
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: Nine out of ten.

1044
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: You think my opinions easy, dude. I think my opinion

1045
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,440
is a little you know, diluted because I live in Austin.

1046
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, live in Austin. You've been to a sex club,

1047
00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:49,159
swingers club?

1048
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: Right, yeah?

1049
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I think you were in an

1050
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,159
echo chamber for sure.

1051
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,159
Speaker 2: But I said that before I did any of those things.

1052
00:49:58,519 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: He did say that before.

1053
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,679
Speaker 2: It's all I know. It's pretty it's fulfilling prophecy.

1054
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,039
Speaker 1: I'll just never get over the fact that you were

1055
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,400
in the same room as an Irish guy who was

1056
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,280
too loud.

1057
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: And it was distracting. Jesus, it's the It's the entire

1058
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,000
reason why I would never go. It was terrible, the

1059
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,239
fact that that might maybe happen.

1060
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: Not the best crowd, well, it was country night too.

1061
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:34,440
It's not not the scene that I wanted. More like.

1062
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,159
Speaker 1: Masks, like a cult.

1063
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: You just needed to rich people.

1064
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: Doesn't put you in that mood.

1065
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: No, it makes me very soft.

1066
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,159
Speaker 3: It has to be really expensive to get in.

1067
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,639
Speaker 1: You almost need like not even music so much as

1068
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:53,119
it naked woman playing a harp.

1069
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I think in the more exclusive whatever,

1070
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,480
they know how to really a mood.

1071
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: Sitting on a syby and playing a harp. It's not

1072
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,559
b yob.

1073
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: That's also not Yeah, they can't serve booze there. They

1074
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,599
don't have a look our license, but they had.

1075
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: You don't want a lot of paperwork with a place

1076
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,039
like that.

1077
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:15,559
Speaker 3: I think it was in the summer, wasn't it in

1078
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:16,159
the summer.

1079
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: No, it was like March, okay, yeah, you don't want

1080
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:21,119
you can't, can't go in there.

1081
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: And in the hot months they closed down. Probably huh,

1082
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,400
because it was it was like a warehouse type.

1083
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just like a normal cloth smell from

1084
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:28,960
a block away.

1085
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:31,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got to shut that thing down.

1086
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: It was just like going to a normal nightclub, but

1087
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:35,039
people they had beds and stuff that you could.

1088
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: People were banging when you walked in.

1089
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 2: There was a bang. I feel like they were paid performers, okay,

1090
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,239
but there was a bang stage. There was a there

1091
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,719
was a stage. Yeah, it's a bank stage. Yeah, it's

1092
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,760
a giant circular bed on a stage that was elevated

1093
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,480
above everybody else stage. Again, I think there were pay

1094
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:56,119
performers because they were actually good looking people. Yeah, yeah, right,

1095
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,599
and then everybody else there was just like oh.

1096
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: Right, right right, it's a nightmare.

1097
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: It was.

1098
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,559
Speaker 3: That's a fucking nightmare.

1099
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:07,119
Speaker 2: Dude hunts my dreams every night.

1100
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'm an I'm in Austin Ford, but I'm

1101
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,800
an Austin sex club seven?

1102
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Right are you saying that about me? Just like a

1103
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,840
chick that you saw there, you know what I mean?

1104
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: Like a four on the streets, but a seven and

1105
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,760
the scouse.

1106
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would never call you a four.

1107
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,079
Speaker 1: I would never call you a four.

1108
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: At least a solid pie, A solid.

1109
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: Would never well, speaking of lots of sex, Titanic was

1110
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,840
also a family man, hm hmm, in that he had

1111
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,960
a lot of families.

1112
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: This is where Delco gets his theory is a past life?

1113
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, from his Yeah, that's just how it was. I've

1114
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,000
just seen more things, guys.

1115
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,119
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, You're right.

1116
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,119
Speaker 1: I have a I believe that you've seen more things

1117
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:01,840
than me. I'm not giving you've seen more things than her.

1118
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: That's true. I mean you did work in Vegas.

1119
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: Yes, for a good worked in Vegas in La.

1120
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, bar You worked at bars for years and years and.

1121
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: Years in Los Angeles and then went to Vegas.

1122
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:17,599
Speaker 2: You never got invited to those clubs.

1123
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: No, I don't know if in my day it was

1124
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,000
as open. It was kuth like, I'm sure it was

1125
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:28,519
going on. Like we would go to strip clubs in Vegas.

1126
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: It's just like service industry ship yeah me, No, just strippers,

1127
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:36,679
yeah yeah.

1128
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like so we would do that, and I'm

1129
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,800
sure maybe from there there was some kind of other thing.

1130
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,880
But it's a lot more open though.

1131
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in the city.

1132
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: It's this town, right, it's like cool to be like

1133
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,079
I am down, I'll go to a sex club. They

1134
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,440
don't really want to, but they go. It's the same

1135
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,079
with me going to a strip club, Like do I

1136
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:01,840
love it, No, but like it's fun whatever.

1137
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: I knew a lot of girls who went to strip

1138
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,679
clubs in Saint Louis when my buddy managed a bar,

1139
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,480
because it was it was all girls that worked at

1140
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:10,239
the bar because the bar were clubs and the only

1141
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,400
place is still open at like three in the morning

1142
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,039
with strip clubs. So if you want to go get

1143
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:18,480
a drink after work, after working service industry. Strip club

1144
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:19,880
was the only place you could go to un one.

1145
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: Now Ron would actually go to the strip clubs at

1146
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,440
like eleven am too, because I had a good brunch buffet.

1147
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: I have eaten at a strip club once in Houston.

1148
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: It was next door hotel. How's the food, It's fine?

1149
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: Did you have wings?

1150
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: No, it was like breakfast in the middle of the night.

1151
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:37,559
So it was like breakfast like four in the morning.

1152
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:38,079
Speaker 2: I was drunk.

1153
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: That sounds awesome kind.

1154
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: Of yeah, and I did like I did, Like it

1155
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,079
was Texas, so it's like they do the Waterburger rip

1156
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,280
off of like I did, like a honey buttered chicken biscuit.

1157
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: And then every Wednesday in Missouri he would go for

1158
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:52,119
the Prime Rid.

1159
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: Perfect.

1160
00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Primary you went to Prime Rid.

1161
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, a little ju then get a little jew,

1162
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,519
you know what I mean, little you on the pole,

1163
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,639
you on your plate.

1164
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,599
Speaker 3: It's all coming back, Yeah, it's all coming back.

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Speaker 1: So Titanic was married five times, perfect, divorced four times. Okay,

1166
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his last wife was not the one, if that's what

1167
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you're thinking, Like, yeah, what what just happened was his

1168
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:20,960
second wife died in a car accident so.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, did she die in a car accident because

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no one Titanic he can rig a fucking break line.

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Speaker 2: She tried to car?

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Speaker 3: Oh and back then, like we did on Crime Corner,

1173
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like a Nanny doss right, Like back then, the the

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investigation into an accidental death.

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Speaker 2: Very man, everyone died of aid minimal.

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Speaker 1: She fell the baseline.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like you have to literally walk up

1178
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to somebody and shoot them and five people need.

1179
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Speaker 2: To see you.

1180
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Speaker 3: You need in order for it to be like there's

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a lot of.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of dark history about Hollywood, all the Starlits.

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00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the last one, the last great one being

1184
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:07,880
Natalie Wood.

1185
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: Oh she fell off that boat, right, but we all

1186
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,320
know that's not true.

1187
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: Christopher Walking killed her.

1188
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: You think it was Walking.

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00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:20,199
Speaker 1: He was on the boat, and so was her husband

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00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,360
and someone else, I feel like, but Walking was on

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the boat.

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Speaker 3: Her husband was the guy from Austin Powers, right, I

1193
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,559
patch from Robert Wagner Ert Robert Wagner, and they were

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like back and forth, on again off. I think they

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even got divorced and back together.

1196
00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: Brad Pitton, Once upon a Time in Hollywood Is that

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00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,920
kind of based on Walking?

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Speaker 1: I think that is a slight no when we walked

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00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,039
Robert Wagner, but they were actors and he was a

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But I think that might be a slight nod in

1201
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:55,519
Natalie Wood's weird death. Yeah, yeah, yeah, act We we

1202
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did our episode last week with Jack. He was doing

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the thing he did on Churchill leading up to World

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War Two. And you know how Churchill's mom died of

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a broken ankle.

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Speaker 3: She he but also in those times too.

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Speaker 1: Not like she broke her ankle and fell down the stairs,

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like broke her ankle and it went and it just

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went bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, my god, you can't investigate

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every fucking weird thing like that.

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00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: So you know, she also got around, Okay, she's also

1214
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,519
a bit of a whore.

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Speaker 3: The amount of people that got away with killing wives,

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killing whatever, Like.

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Speaker 2: We I'm animal planning, I'm kidding.

1218
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Speaker 1: I mean, we probably don't know who the top the

1219
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like most prolific hundred serial killers of all time are.

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Speaker 2: They're the people that never got caught, you eat.

1221
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. We don't know them.

1222
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:52,599
Speaker 1: But like how many, I mean, how many serial killers

1223
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,159
were there in ancient Persia?

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00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,159
Speaker 3: Right, right, Well, there's a difference between there being no

1225
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law and then there being a law that, let you

1226
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,239
know what I mean, where there is like investigations, there

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is a process, but with certain the ways to get

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around it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so much more.

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Speaker 3: And they had life insurance still too, like really early.

1231
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was there from the jump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like people were getting paid out accident.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, the only way you were going to get

1234
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caught was from an insurance company because I didn't want

1235
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to pay out, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they would need someone to investigate, which they

1237
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:37,400
never would. So it's like.

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Speaker 2: Occasionally that would if there was too big of a payout,

1239
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:41,119
they're like, I don't know if we want to pay

1240
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this or if the claim was taken like last second.

1241
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,960
Yeah yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Titanic also had three children, only three with five, all

1243
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,800
of whom he ran out on, just like his father ran.

1244
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:56,119
Speaker 3: Out on him and Deco when he was in.

1245
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: The n one of them or my parents weirdly got

1246
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,079
separated for like three years it's the only way, and

1247
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:05,000
then got back together.

1248
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:07,239
Speaker 3: I've told you, I think there should be a marriage

1249
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,320
rum springer.

1250
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: Kind of Yeah, that's what they did. That'd be sweet.

1251
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,679
Speaker 3: So you're your thing of the idea that people at

1252
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:17,000
fifty or whatever would you know swing, I think there

1253
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,119
should be a rum Springer And then you come back

1254
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:22,360
and you're like, all right, like obviously I want to

1255
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be system.

1256
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Speaker 2: Right, You're like everything else out there is pretty.

1257
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: You don't get to know. And same with rum Springer. Right,

1258
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,599
it's like do you don't say anything? You literally just

1259
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:31,559
come back or not?

1260
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: I guess you got to send a text at least

1261
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,199
like hey, uh not come back?

1262
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that what they do? Is that the right

1263
00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:41,920
to the Amish when they don't come back? Yeah?

1264
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't know the specifics. I think they either just come.

1265
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 4: Back, have phones though, yeah now yeah yeah no, but

1266
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:51,639
in the you know, yeah, they would be like the

1267
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,679
idea behind alcohol is wonderful.

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00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:57,159
Speaker 1: Right, I won't be coming back, right.

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00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:03,239
Speaker 2: I love Dick too, Bye bye? Yeah mother. I like that.

1270
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,400
I don't need to should marriage rum spring beyond?

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Speaker 3: Like you said around fifty? Right? No, I mean like

1272
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:12,360
an empty nest.

1273
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,039
Speaker 2: Or what about while you have kids?

1274
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:18,719
Speaker 3: That's rough, that's rough you can't do you can't do that.

1275
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,679
Speaker 1: I and everyone I specifically everyone I know whose parents

1276
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,039
got divorced in high school.

1277
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: That is like it's way worse nightmare. You gotta do

1278
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,599
it early, or you gotta wait.

1279
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:35,199
Speaker 2: Not from like seventh to twelfth grade.

1280
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: You can't the worst, can't the worst. I think I

1281
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,679
was thirteen, do you know what I mean?

1282
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: I think Corney was sixteen. Yeah.

1283
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,119
Speaker 3: Oh that's way worse, dude.

1284
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: Because when you're young, you can justify oh, two Christmases

1285
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:52,119
or to.

1286
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:57,239
Speaker 3: You know, like we said before, like kids, kids learn

1287
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,840
what they learn. Yeah, and at a certain age they

1288
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,920
just Okay, this is what it is. They I know,

1289
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,960
I have two houses or whatever.

1290
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: Adaptable at a certain point of insanity.

1291
01:01:08,599 --> 01:01:12,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, like before five golden dude, they won't even know

1292
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:14,079
what married people look like.

1293
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Speaker 2: But what yeah, you don't have two houses.

1294
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: But after that, fuck yeah, yeah, it's.

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Dot emmy slash softcore that's f t bo d dot

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,920
mdash E or dot me sorry slash softcore that's fit

1404
01:06:33,079 --> 01:06:38,840
bo d dot em slash softcore. One of Titanic's children, Tommy,

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01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:42,920
talked about his experience. He said, my dad left when

1406
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,159
I was four years old. When he left, I kept

1407
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:47,639
waiting to hear from my dad over the years. He

1408
01:06:47,719 --> 01:06:51,079
never called, I never got a letter, but I kept

1409
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:56,400
reading stories about him in Life Magazine, Golf Digest, Sports Illustrated.

1410
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,599
I read these stories about my dad as a young

1411
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:04,119
boy cool, and I would just fantasize about my dad

1412
01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:06,920
really loving me someday and being a dad to me.

1413
01:07:07,239 --> 01:07:10,079
I've said, well, maybe if I get good enough at gambling,

1414
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,840
my dad will really love me too.

1415
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: No, he'll just come steal your money.

1416
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: Well, so Tommy did become a professional gambler.

1417
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: No, it's a boy named Sue where they finally cross

1418
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,880
paths and yeah, and he, you know, takes them for

1419
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,559
everything he's got.

1420
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, well is it Tommy did become a professional gambler.

1421
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,239
We'll get to the end of that story with his

1422
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,880
father later, but it should be noted that Tommy, in

1423
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,119
his life as a professional gambler also ran out on

1424
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:43,800
several children.

1425
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1426
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Titanic's dad Gambler runs out of the family.

1427
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,280
Titanic gambler runs out of the family. Titanic son Tommy

1428
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,280
Gambler runs out of the family.

1429
01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:01,119
Speaker 3: Plot twist, Tommy is Delco's dead. Yeah, what is your

1430
01:08:01,199 --> 01:08:04,480
dad's name? It's Dan Oh damn it, you're a junior.

1431
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,519
Speaker 2: I'm not have a different middle name.

1432
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,079
Speaker 3: Oh okay, he.

1433
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: Didn't get that suffix.

1434
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: Not everyone suff so I was actually supposed to be

1435
01:08:12,639 --> 01:08:17,439
I j Ian James. Okay, and my mom passed out

1436
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,800
I J Yeah, I know, it's terrible god. And then

1437
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:25,039
my dad they asked for my name and he's just like,

1438
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:28,039
oh uh, sure she didn't I J. Yeah.

1439
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:29,399
Speaker 1: I do like the name Ian.

1440
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if it was Ian.

1441
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: And then my grandfather was named James, so Ian James

1442
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,640
is a solid one.

1443
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 3: I would have happened to be I J. I don't know,

1444
01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:40,119
is it a Delco thing?

1445
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,520
Speaker 2: But my dad was like he was smart because he

1446
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,199
named me after him, But then gave my mother's maiden

1447
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:53,840
name to my middle name, so it's Daniel Murphy, so

1448
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,720
she can't be too mad at him. Plus once it's.

1449
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: On that paper, it's a nightmare to gain.

1450
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that was that was cool. The maiden name

1451
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,159
Mine's like can't work as a middle name, but.

1452
01:09:05,159 --> 01:09:08,159
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I like that Daniel Murphy.

1453
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: We might do Campbell as a middle name, and I

1454
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,880
don't think we will. That's Courtney's maiden.

1455
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 3: That's a sweet middle name, dude.

1456
01:09:16,119 --> 01:09:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, soup. It's okay, soup.

1457
01:09:22,119 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: Soup, old soupy, old soupy jeans.

1458
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,520
Speaker 2: Uh so Thompson also Titanic.

1459
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: Thompson also allegedly had affairs with actresses Jean Harlow and uh,

1460
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,800
how do you say, Mira Nahloy, But Jean Harlow.

1461
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:37,319
Speaker 2: Is the headliner there.

1462
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,319
Speaker 1: What a dope guy who was banging Jean Harlow at

1463
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:41,039
one point, I hear.

1464
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with the hot, little dirty fucker, right, yeah,

1465
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,119
I mean he abandoned three children, but yeah, but that's not.

1466
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,359
Speaker 2: The kid also became a successful game.

1467
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I would abandon my children to bang

1468
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:53,800
whatever the current equivalent.

1469
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:54,239
Speaker 2: Of Jean Harlow is.

1470
01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:56,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Like it's not even.

1471
01:09:56,039 --> 01:09:57,039
Speaker 2: I mean, we've gone through these.

1472
01:09:57,039 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but I would still talk to my kids.

1473
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,720
I'd better than Titanic Like IM like, hey, Rory, sweetie,

1474
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,399
I know you love mommy and Mommy's wonderful. But what

1475
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:10,239
you need to know about Sabrina Carpenter is that she's

1476
01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:11,479
Sabrina Carpenter.

1477
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:15,279
Speaker 3: And one day, Yeah, I'm telling you, Brow, I talk

1478
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:18,279
to him. I'm telling you, bro, I'm gonna show you

1479
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,039
this picture when you're.

1480
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,119
Speaker 1: Older and you're gonna be like, but mommy's pretty, and

1481
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:22,960
you know what, Mommy is.

1482
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: Pretty and you're and she's beautiful, beautiful inside and out.

1483
01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:32,079
But Sabrina, but Marbrina Carpenter.

1484
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,039
Speaker 2: I've never heard of Sabrina Carpenter until like two weeks ago.

1485
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,079
Speaker 3: I mean, but yeah, right, yeah, but yeah, you get that,

1486
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,520
you get it like she's.

1487
01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And by the way, definitely passed my time

1488
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,479
banging Barry Cugan.

1489
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 4: I know, was get in there, Bob, what a way?

1490
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: That's all you have to look like to get a Carpenter.

1491
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,239
Speaker 3: God, It's like, I don't even like how they put

1492
01:11:04,319 --> 01:11:06,560
him with the like rodent, but you know what I mean,

1493
01:11:07,079 --> 01:11:08,920
he was beast.

1494
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: We played it on The Boy that's that uh that

1495
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:15,920
stand up clip where it's like Barry cooking is like something.

1496
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,159
Speaker 2: You fight yamp or something like that.

1497
01:11:17,239 --> 01:11:20,359
Speaker 3: Yes, like he it's it's not in the same You

1498
01:11:20,359 --> 01:11:22,800
can't put him next to a Jeremy Allen White and

1499
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:23,279
go like.

1500
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: Rat boy somewhere.

1501
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's ten million times Barry brilliant actor.

1502
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,079
Speaker 2: Absolutely genuinely.

1503
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:35,119
Speaker 1: I'm sad he's not going to be the joker in

1504
01:11:35,239 --> 01:11:38,880
the New Terrible Batman stories. And he was wonderful and

1505
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,920
banshees of in shearing.

1506
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: Uh, but.

1507
01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's not what it's not even you, I

1508
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,079
would the only reason everyone was offended by the rat

1509
01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:52,039
boy ship is because they threw his ass in there.

1510
01:11:52,359 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: By the way, you take that accent off him, what's

1511
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:56,520
what's left?

1512
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna be fucking and just like hi, literally in

1513
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:00,279
the gutter.

1514
01:12:00,359 --> 01:12:01,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Barry.

1515
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you imagine that face? And he's like, yeah,

1516
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,920
I just tell it like it is. You know, I'm Barry.

1517
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,359
Speaker 1: But you know what, Pete Davison doesn't have an accent, so.

1518
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: He has like a kind of they.

1519
01:12:17,319 --> 01:12:19,039
Speaker 1: Get the little Staten Island one.

1520
01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: Pete Davidson gets bitches because he treats them well.

1521
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,399
Speaker 1: To them, which maybe I'm sure Barry does too.

1522
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 3: By the way, these women, yeah that's true. I heard

1523
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:30,960
he doesn't.

1524
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: But I heard he's like nice, No, no.

1525
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 3: Pete Davison, Yes, I was talking about Barry.

1526
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: Oh well, he did leave his wife who has a

1527
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,800
child for Sabrina Carpenter. So Barry's living the life that

1528
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,239
I said I would live. Yeah, yeah, but it was

1529
01:12:46,319 --> 01:12:47,560
girlfriend long time.

1530
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,399
Speaker 3: If the kid hasn't seen the kid, you don't mean

1531
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,840
that kind of thing. But he's more of a Titanic.

1532
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at the same time, it's car.

1533
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it. Did.

1534
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1535
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: You know you want to leave your wife, just do

1536
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,000
it already, Well, not for anyone. I mean, she's pregnant.

1537
01:13:05,039 --> 01:13:06,079
I'm not going to leave.

1538
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 1: It for anyone.

1539
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to leave it for someone the opportunity.

1540
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,439
You have to leave it where no one can dispute. Yeah,

1541
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,119
like I guess why he did. Yeah, yeah, you know

1542
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:17,880
what I mean, Like you want to hear someone say like.

1543
01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't.

1544
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,520
Speaker 1: But if I just leave, if I just leave her

1545
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,960
for a little tight body twenty four year old boomers waitress.

1546
01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:27,000
No one's saying.

1547
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:31,399
Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, never talking to you again.

1548
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,199
Yeah yeah, completely different exactly.

1549
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: By the mid nineteen twenties, when Titanic was in his

1550
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:41,359
early thirties, Titanic started living another part of Dan's best life.

1551
01:13:42,039 --> 01:13:44,159
That is when he found another game. That is when

1552
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:48,000
he got really, really into golf, and he might have been,

1553
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:49,760
by all accounts.

1554
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,199
Speaker 2: One of the best golfers of all time. Would he

1555
01:13:54,359 --> 01:13:55,119
compete on tour?

1556
01:13:56,319 --> 01:13:58,279
Speaker 1: How do we know he was good enough to be

1557
01:13:58,319 --> 01:13:58,680
a pro?

1558
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: According to all the pros that played with him. Did

1559
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,640
he enter like the US Open. No.

1560
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,399
Speaker 1: The problem was, at the time, apparently golfers, at least

1561
01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:12,680
according to Titanic, made shit money. Golfers only made thirty

1562
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,000
K year, or about half a million dollars a year

1563
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,800
in today's money.

1564
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 2: So when asked chump change.

1565
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,119
Speaker 1: When asked would you ever want to become a pro

1566
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:23,479
golfer Titanic, you're so good at it, he said, I

1567
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:24,680
couldn't affold the pay.

1568
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,039
Speaker 3: Cut, right he would hustle golf.

1569
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:33,079
Speaker 2: I have heard nothing wrong that I didn't say, Yeah,

1570
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:34,239
this guy's done.

1571
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: We keep telling Bob that he's like, doesn't like this guy.

1572
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,840
He's like, I fucking love this guy.

1573
01:14:39,359 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: So, if you recall Titanic, around the same time, golfers

1574
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,359
made thirty k yere, Titanic made fifty k on one drive.

1575
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:53,359
Speaker 3: Right with his with his hustle one hustling ways, yeah, yeah,

1576
01:14:53,399 --> 01:14:54,119
yeah yeah.

1577
01:14:54,119 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: Thompson would also allege to Titanic, Thompson would also apparently

1578
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:03,880
make thirty grand a week hustling rich country club pros.

1579
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,399
Speaker 2: Professional golfers do that now.

1580
01:15:07,039 --> 01:15:11,079
Speaker 3: A lot more, though, How do you hustle professional well?

1581
01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 2: Because they'll play like rounds with their friends or with

1582
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,960
professionals that aren't on tour, and they're playing for money.

1583
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,680
Every time, there's always a game going, right.

1584
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's hustling, but I think it's

1585
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:32,640
like you're gambling.

1586
01:15:30,039 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: You're fucking them over.

1587
01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a pool shark acts like they're not good

1588
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,600
and then just fucking towards the end slams all the balls,

1589
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,880
you know what I'm saying. So betting among like a

1590
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,159
Michael you know whatever, pros that want to like up

1591
01:15:45,159 --> 01:15:48,199
each other's game. That probably happens all the time, right.

1592
01:15:48,199 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's plenty of dudes on the Corn

1593
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,800
Ferry tour right now or that are like low MPGA

1594
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,439
tour players that aren't making a ton of money on tour.

1595
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,159
They'll go to their local country club nobody. They'll play

1596
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:02,079
with people that have no idea who they are, and

1597
01:16:02,119 --> 01:16:05,920
maybe like they'll throw a couple of holes and they'll hustle. No,

1598
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,239
it's not, I am possible. There's a lot of pro

1599
01:16:07,279 --> 01:16:09,880
golfers that are not known but who are still.

1600
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,079
Speaker 3: You know, like if you okay, yeah, yeah, So I'm

1601
01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:13,520
thinking of like a Rory.

1602
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,319
Speaker 1: Could be the equival. Like think about like somehow like

1603
01:16:24,319 --> 01:16:26,520
if you didn't, if you were like a team of

1604
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,920
like double A baseball players, you go hustle a beer

1605
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,439
league softball team right like they go and they just

1606
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,359
obliterate every every ball. But you don't know who they are.

1607
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,800
You know what a double double players are? Same, same

1608
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,000
situation there, So Thompson would do that. A big part

1609
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,199
of Thompson's hustle in particular was he would pair up

1610
01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:50,479
with a rando, saying something like, I'm so good, I

1611
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,279
bet you I could. I could grab a fellow off

1612
01:16:52,319 --> 01:16:54,800
the street and pair with him, and I'd beat the boat.

1613
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: There.

1614
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 1: You golfle out here, right, and you belong to this

1615
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,159
country club all I'm just wandering through town. Sure, I

1616
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:01,039
got a pair of club and I got an extra

1617
01:17:01,079 --> 01:17:03,039
pair of clubs. I can loan to this fella. Or actually,

1618
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:05,039
he'll share my pair of clubs and we'll beat the

1619
01:17:05,079 --> 01:17:07,119
both you' I'll grab the next guy who walks by

1620
01:17:07,319 --> 01:17:08,760
and we'll beat the boat, I promise.

1621
01:17:10,039 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 2: And people were like, no, he's just he's just that good.

1622
01:17:13,319 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna make up for oh what.

1623
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: Cheating is probably too strong of a word, but I

1624
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:27,239
would call what he was doing dishonest. Because usually the

1625
01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:38,239
person The next person who walked by was Ben Hogan. Yeah,

1626
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,199
his hustling partner was Ben Hogan, who is essentially the

1627
01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:42,039
Babe Ruth of golf.

1628
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so it's a plant.

1629
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,399
Speaker 2: And I mean he's probably one of the most famous

1630
01:17:52,399 --> 01:17:55,079
golfers of the time. But they don't, right, there's not

1631
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:56,119
TV and.

1632
01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: Hustle.

1633
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ben ho again.

1634
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,520
Speaker 2: So Tiger Woods, Yeah yeah.

1635
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, comes in and he's like me and him, well

1636
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,920
beatcha and they're like, huh, well you don't. You said

1637
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,439
you barely play. You play in some municipal course whose

1638
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:12,560
grass is mowed by goats.

1639
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, will take you all day money.

1640
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, as if.

1641
01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 2: Like lying in mass quantities wasn't created until the seventies

1642
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,760
or something like what people.

1643
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: Were just like normal people.

1644
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just like just took your word for everything apparently. Yeah.

1645
01:18:28,319 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 3: I think it's like the rampant like distrust and lying,

1646
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,319
you know, not trusting people.

1647
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,039
Speaker 1: With They're just more shame back then, so you just

1648
01:18:41,079 --> 01:18:43,319
assume it was a more shame based society.

1649
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: It was more polite, So you just assume that.

1650
01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:48,239
Speaker 2: Well, and you're only as good as you would This

1651
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:48,760
is you.

1652
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: Are debasing yourself if you do this, I don't think

1653
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,920
this person's gonna debase themselves, right, And it's like, oh,

1654
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,800
this guy is gonna what you think is debased.

1655
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,119
Speaker 2: So that's not really cheating though, you're just getting all

1656
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:01,920
I said.

1657
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: Cheating was too strong a word, but it was not honest.

1658
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:06,079
Speaker 2: It's a.

1659
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 3: It was hustling.

1660
01:19:09,079 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1661
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:16,359
Speaker 1: Titanic also played with guys like Kai Laffoon, Herman Kaiser,

1662
01:19:16,359 --> 01:19:18,159
and Lee Elder in these hustling matches.

1663
01:19:18,199 --> 01:19:19,119
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard anything.

1664
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Titanic also played with the likes of although I

1665
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,560
believe he just played golf with these people, he didn't

1666
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,319
hustle with them. Byron Nelson and Sam Snead.

1667
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, those are big names.

1668
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,119
Speaker 1: Hogan said that Titanic was the best shot maker he

1669
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:42,640
ever saw. Really, Ben Hogan said that Titanic.

1670
01:19:42,239 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: Was he could just move the ball anyway he wants.

1671
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that Titanic was insanely good at golf, like the best,

1672
01:19:47,039 --> 01:19:48,279
one of the best golfers he ever saw.

1673
01:19:48,399 --> 01:19:51,039
Speaker 2: Like the shot calls for a fit, the shot calls

1674
01:19:51,119 --> 01:19:52,520
for a cut, he could do it.

1675
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,239
Speaker 1: He had the hand, eye and the eyesight to do anything.

1676
01:19:55,239 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: This guy. Yeah, I mean, he lives a great life

1677
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,119
and very successful life, but if he was just an

1678
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:03,600
honest fella, I don't think he gets half the shit done.

1679
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,279
Speaker 1: True, but he's not a footnote in history, a bit

1680
01:20:07,359 --> 01:20:09,239
of a bigger name in history, but doesn't get as

1681
01:20:09,319 --> 01:20:10,840
much money.

1682
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,079
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. I think he doesn't accomplish half

1683
01:20:16,119 --> 01:20:18,880
the things he does if he's an honest hard work.

1684
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:23,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeaheah, Yeah, I agreed. Honest people are morons. Another

1685
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:25,159
hustle Titanic would pull on the golf course as he

1686
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:28,039
would play right handed, uh and beat them, and then

1687
01:20:28,039 --> 01:20:31,439
out of sympathy, would be like, you know what, boy,

1688
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,199
I just took so much money from you. I feel

1689
01:20:35,239 --> 01:20:37,960
bad about it. I'm gonna play left handed. We'll do

1690
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,319
another round left handed double or nothing double or nothing

1691
01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:41,920
left handed.

1692
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:46,359
Speaker 2: So he Titanic was left.

1693
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 4: Handed, so the first time he was playing offhand offhand.

1694
01:20:51,399 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 1: And then he would come and play his dominant hand.

1695
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, like, you have to work at

1696
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,720
that shit, You have to work.

1697
01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 2: I actually don't think he he didn't.

1698
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 3: Maybe it was like one of those naturally.

1699
01:21:03,279 --> 01:21:05,159
Speaker 1: He felt he when he started playing the sports, so

1700
01:21:05,279 --> 01:21:08,560
growing up and for a while he was didn't have

1701
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,920
regular access to golf courses and didn't play that much.

1702
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,439
But once he he moved to San Francisco for a

1703
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,159
time and there were good courses out there and a

1704
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:17,399
lot of courses out there, so he started playing several

1705
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:18,760
times a week when he lived.

1706
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 2: Out there, and that's when he.

1707
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,159
Speaker 3: Practice, Yeah, and that's why he naturally gifted.

1708
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: But he really.

1709
01:21:23,239 --> 01:21:26,399
Speaker 1: Didn't practice like he just played, you know what I mean,

1710
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,079
Like he wasn't working given town. Yeah, Like he wasn't

1711
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,680
doing like Dan Know's, Like he wasn't like working on

1712
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,640
his stroke, like watching his shot. Like he would just

1713
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,840
go out and play and be like, hmm, that happened

1714
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,640
that time. I guess I'll try, you know. And like

1715
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,399
he just he practiced through playing. He didn't do like

1716
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,680
a lot of golfers do now, like oh I gotta

1717
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,479
check my stroke. I don't do that either, Well I

1718
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,720
know you don't. I don't hit the range. Yeah, but

1719
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,399
he was good enough to be pro, and pros now

1720
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:54,680
are like freaks about yeah, yeah, everything. But it wasn't

1721
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,159
all fun and games on the golf course. In nineteen

1722
01:21:58,159 --> 01:21:59,640
thirty two, Titanic killed again.

1723
01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:02,199
Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna happen.

1724
01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 3: Am I not going to like this murder because the

1725
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,359
other ones I'm cool everything.

1726
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:07,159
Speaker 2: It seems justified.

1727
01:22:07,399 --> 01:22:09,199
Speaker 3: I'm cool with the other murders.

1728
01:22:09,359 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: You'll be less cool with this one, but still cool

1729
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:12,920
with this one.

1730
01:22:13,039 --> 01:22:14,279
Speaker 2: Cool cool.

1731
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,239
Speaker 1: Near a country club in Texas in nineteen thirty two,

1732
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,840
he shot a man in a mask who was holding

1733
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:26,439
him at gunpoint. What the man mask? The man in

1734
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,279
the mask turned out to be Jimmy Frederick, the sixteen

1735
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:32,680
year old boy who caddied for him earlier that day

1736
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,439
after a winning match, so.

1737
01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 3: The caddy was trying to rob it.

1738
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,520
Speaker 1: Patty knew he won money gambling and then tried to

1739
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:40,399
rob him afterwards.

1740
01:22:40,399 --> 01:22:42,319
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for that bye, And.

1741
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:43,079
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1742
01:22:43,119 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: I just saw maybe because it was a sixteen year

1743
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,800
old kid, it was ok.

1744
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,279
Speaker 3: He stuck him up.

1745
01:22:48,359 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1746
01:22:49,119 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: The dying Frederick confirmed the witnesses he had been trying

1747
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,600
to rob Titanic. So Titanic was like, tell him. People

1748
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:56,479
think I like to kill for.

1749
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 2: Fucking tell him, yeah, I bleeding out. He was like, Okay,

1750
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,840
even in their dying moments, all these other people are honest, yes,

1751
01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:05,039
literally everyone, and.

1752
01:23:05,079 --> 01:23:08,119
Speaker 3: Then Titanic Yes, but he's honest too.

1753
01:23:08,319 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: Well, well, he's an honest killer.

1754
01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:12,119
Speaker 1: He's not a killer. That is the one thing, you know.

1755
01:23:12,359 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

1756
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: And then, as we covered in my last episode, Titanic

1757
01:23:18,119 --> 01:23:23,239
was possibly responsible for another death. I think probably responsible

1758
01:23:23,279 --> 01:23:27,880
for this death, and this one was certainly he didn't

1759
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,840
pull the trigger, but he This man was murdered because

1760
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,840
of him. America's first coke lord and the man who

1761
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,680
fixed the nineteen nineteen World series, Arnold Rostein.

1762
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:41,319
Speaker 2: Was murdered at the border of Titanic.

1763
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 1: By Titanic's bagman, who, according to Titanic, Titanic said it

1764
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,439
was his bagman who killed Rostein after Rostein refused to

1765
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,479
pay up after losing a high stakes multiple day poker

1766
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,199
game that was littered with insane side bets. This game

1767
01:23:56,319 --> 01:23:59,680
was orchestrated by Titanic knowing that Rostein was a millionaire

1768
01:24:01,039 --> 01:24:04,680
and Titanic had his buddy who was gonna give him

1769
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,640
the money afterwards do most of these side bets because

1770
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,199
I don't think Rosting necessarily trusted Titanic, so Titanic would

1771
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:12,720
be like, we're gonna do these side bets today.

1772
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,119
Speaker 2: Rosting also a bad guy.

1773
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: Rosting's terrible person. Rosting happy with murdered all the time.

1774
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:17,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1775
01:24:17,399 --> 01:24:20,159
Speaker 1: Did you watch Bordalk Empire? No, okay, he's a character

1776
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:22,079
in that. I didn't watch it, but I would have.

1777
01:24:22,119 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 2: I would think you and Ross would like it.

1778
01:24:24,319 --> 01:24:27,359
Speaker 3: I probably would like an XBO show.

1779
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 2: It's based on real stuff, real people.

1780
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 3: There's no It was one of those where I just like,

1781
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,039
didn't catch it, ever catch it, and then it went

1782
01:24:37,159 --> 01:24:39,239
crazy where I was like, who's on it fucking now?

1783
01:24:39,399 --> 01:24:40,159
Speaker 2: Like this?

1784
01:24:40,279 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1785
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

1786
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Rostein essentially gets fucked in these side bets. I think

1787
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,159
loses like five hundred thousand dollars of that time is money,

1788
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,439
so an insane amount of money. Titanic set up all

1789
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,159
these complicated side bets. Again, these are prop bets. Basically,

1790
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:01,520
again Titanic prop Batman certain leaves nothing to chance. Fox

1791
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:06,560
people over constantly. He orchestrated the game, He orchestrated all

1792
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:10,319
the side bets. Thompson couldn't pay, said he wasn't gonna

1793
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:12,119
pay because he was pretty sure he got fucked over.

1794
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,239
Rostein was in his own I'm sorry, Rostin said that.

1795
01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:17,760
And Rostein in his own right was an excellent guy

1796
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,720
with numbers and cards and stuff like that.

1797
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1798
01:25:20,039 --> 01:25:23,239
Speaker 2: So it didn't add up to Rostein, right, and.

1799
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,039
Speaker 1: In that in the in the ways he was yeah,

1800
01:25:27,119 --> 01:25:30,439
and so Titanic claimed that it was this bagman who

1801
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:35,800
killed him, who killed Rostein in nineteen twenty eight prop

1802
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:41,199
potentially under Titanics orders or maybe who maybe his bagman

1803
01:25:41,359 --> 01:25:47,560
was just real loyal, who knows. By the nineteen sixties,

1804
01:25:48,079 --> 01:25:50,640
Titanic was in his seventies, and he settled in Dallas,

1805
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,439
where he still hustled idiots at the local Muni Tennyson Park.

1806
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:57,199
Speaker 2: You know it?

1807
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,079
Speaker 1: No, okay, no, we might be able to play a

1808
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,640
Titanic Thompson. Course, let's go for shit.

1809
01:26:05,039 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to kill you though, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1810
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:08,159
on the course.

1811
01:26:09,039 --> 01:26:12,319
Speaker 1: Thompson also participated in the very first World Series of Poker.

1812
01:26:13,319 --> 01:26:16,239
When was that nineteen seventy Okay, how do you do?

1813
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,560
He didn't finish in the final table. He at that

1814
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,159
point he was in his eighties.

1815
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 3: I think, listen, that's what happens if you're legit. If

1816
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,680
you go legit, it's like he's just a uh. He

1817
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,319
didn't even finish, you know what I mean? That would

1818
01:26:31,319 --> 01:26:33,399
have been his whole life. He didn't even finish.

1819
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 2: He grew out in the box though, well, well he did.

1820
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,720
He died. He died, but not like violently.

1821
01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:42,520
Speaker 1: No he didn't. No, he died in his sleep or something,

1822
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,479
he admitted. Uh, I'm sorry. Uh yeah. So he didn't

1823
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:46,960
finish at the final table, but he lived out his

1824
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,079
final years in a nursing home in Dallas.

1825
01:26:49,159 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 2: That's not great. Uh yeah.

1826
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 1: He didn't have enough money to retire more comfortably because

1827
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,119
although he won millions on these prop bets, gambling, all

1828
01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:01,640
this stuff, he wasn't always a winner. There was one

1829
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,720
thing that he loved betting on but could never master,

1830
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,840
and perhaps he kept chasing that dragon hoping he could.

1831
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,119
According to him, he lost millions because he couldn't play

1832
01:27:13,119 --> 01:27:13,560
the ponies.

1833
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:14,319
Speaker 2: I was gonna.

1834
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 3: Because you cannot win, and it's the most exciting dragon

1835
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:23,159
to chase.

1836
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: He lost millions two minutes, nothing but.

1837
01:27:26,399 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Millions of those time dollars, millions trying to win money

1838
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,920
on horse racing and to be.

1839
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 3: So like smart and prolific, and to be that dumb

1840
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,640
to really think unless he.

1841
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,119
Speaker 2: Got you know, you get a guy on the inside.

1842
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,079
Speaker 3: Unless you have a guy on the inside, which didn't

1843
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:47,000
Rosting did.

1844
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,199
Speaker 2: In the our last episode Rosting fixed probably why he

1845
01:27:49,279 --> 01:27:50,840
killed him gosh.

1846
01:27:51,279 --> 01:27:53,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, and the crazy that's the craziest part too,

1847
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:58,319
is that like he won so much money out and every.

1848
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:01,079
Speaker 2: Need to pay child sport left no no, no.

1849
01:28:01,319 --> 01:28:05,239
Speaker 1: Left nothing to chance, but then would take that money

1850
01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:08,960
and out of sheer, probably not greed, probably like narcissism,

1851
01:28:09,079 --> 01:28:11,359
you know what I mean, Like couldn't admit he's isn't

1852
01:28:11,359 --> 01:28:14,199
the best at everything right, just needed to get that

1853
01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:15,560
one final fucking thing.

1854
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: But he ends up in a nursing home because he

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ignores his kids.

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Speaker 1: Well, he does reconnect with Tommy the Gambler and for

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many years they would go go out and on gambling

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trips together.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's sweet. Yeah. Before he died in nineteen seventy

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four at the age of eighty.

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Speaker 3: Huh okay.

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Speaker 1: Tommy went on to become a preacher, right and after

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he died. Yeah, now convinces people to not gamble, like literally,

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like talks.

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Speaker 2: To prisoners and stuff like, don't gamble.

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Speaker 3: I mean because a fun Yeah, yeah, exactly, do you

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know what I mean? Like, oh why not?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Titanic, he lived a long life. Died in

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nineteen seventy four at the age of eighty after a

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long and I guess I guess he broke even. At

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the end of the day, if you're in a nursing home,

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you broke even.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because still costs fucking money, dude. Yeah, it's not free. No,

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it's just not like you know, lavish.

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Speaker 1: That is the story of Titanic Thompson, possibly America's most famous,

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or at least most.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the luckiest man ever to live. Why

1878
01:29:26,319 --> 01:29:33,680
is that? Came across Capone, came across Rostine, like Jean Harlowe. Yeah,

1879
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Ben Hogan, Ben Hogan. This is a good life.

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Speaker 1: And he was, by the way, as his son said,

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this is.

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Speaker 2: An American life.

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Speaker 1: This was a famous man like like he was like

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my dad never wrote me, well, called or cared that

1885
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I existed. But boy, it was fun reading about him

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in Golf Digest.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like I knew him, you know, because I

1888
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,039
could just read about him all the time and all

1889
01:29:57,119 --> 01:29:57,880
his fun stuff.

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Speaker 2: He was doing Tony Rob's kids, listening to the pod cast.

1891
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Speaker 3: It's like I'm hanging out with him every day. Huh.

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Speaker 2: He was never home when he leaves her for a

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Sabrina Carpenter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, but they'll understand you said it enough.

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Speaker 2: If we have explained it enough.

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Speaker 1: Her child is a daughter.

1897
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Speaker 2: She won't but no, no, no, no, no no. The other two, Yeah,

1898
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they'll get it.

1899
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 3: They'll get it, they'll get it, they'll go. This was

1900
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:33,520
the dish the dad left for. Great story, Like, great story,

1901
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:39,159
many moments for us two not if we were different people.

1902
01:30:39,279 --> 01:30:42,800
If you were telling this story to a couple different people,

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they may have been able to find some fault problems,

1904
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:49,720
some bad moments, some missteps.

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Speaker 2: Some really aside from the kids stuff, I don't really

1906
01:30:52,319 --> 01:30:53,520
have a problem with this guy's life.

1907
01:30:54,039 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he reconnected, I guess with one of them of

1908
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,680
the three. Yeah you know what you bat three thirty

1909
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,760
three in the Major League? Make a Hall of Fame.

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01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you know. And it was it was

1911
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,479
the only one that was like dying to reconnect, right.

1912
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Speaker 1: It was not like were like he's a piece of ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That was like I love him, following in his footsteps,

1915
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,279
begging to hang out with him. It's the only reason

1916
01:31:22,279 --> 01:31:24,720
that even was like, all right, I'm in a nursing home.

1917
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Now you can like come chow, I just want to

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visit me.

1919
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Speaker 2: At this point, Uh, what'd you guys learn today? I

1920
01:31:33,079 --> 01:31:38,079
learned about a very successful man that I need to

1921
01:31:38,079 --> 01:31:38,920
base my life off of.

1922
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Speaker 1: I told you this sounds like your dream life. I

1923
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,399
don't know if you want to abandon children or bash

1924
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a man sculling with a hammer, but.

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Speaker 3: You don't have children.

1926
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Speaker 2: I won't do the former. I'll do the ladder.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is the time. This is the time. If

1928
01:31:53,319 --> 01:31:56,079
you're going to try it out. You don't have any kids,

1929
01:31:57,079 --> 01:31:59,199
you can you do have skills.

1930
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Speaker 1: Well, he did want to cash out a four to

1931
01:32:01,079 --> 01:32:02,119
one K and went to Vegas.

1932
01:32:02,199 --> 01:32:06,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, first away, I laid off from Grandex. I try

1933
01:32:06,119 --> 01:32:07,520
to double up in Vegas.

1934
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not the same. We need you to hustle.

1935
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We need you to start using your right the right

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hand for fucking pool.

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Speaker 2: I need you to take Yeah.

1938
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: I need you to have like a backpack with one

1939
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,720
hundred thousand dollars in it under a bed at a

1940
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motel six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you're like, you know, you've got these schemes

1942
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,039
and one thing that you're good at, and you're able

1943
01:32:28,079 --> 01:32:30,039
to just be like, hey man, you want to you know,

1944
01:32:30,279 --> 01:32:32,199
play around whatever it is, which I.

1945
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Speaker 2: Could jump over to the y. I go to the

1946
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,199
gym and I'm like, I put one thirty five on

1947
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:38,760
the bar and I start to struggle, and I'd be like,

1948
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,319
the next set, the next set, I I bet I

1949
01:32:40,319 --> 01:32:42,520
can bet I can mention two twenty five. And I'm like,

1950
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,840
I just saw you do one rep of one thirty five.

1951
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No way you can do two twenty five.

1952
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Speaker 3: Something like that or something.

1953
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,239
Speaker 1: I bet you I can jump over two stools on

1954
01:32:52,279 --> 01:32:55,159
top of each other and they're like no, then you

1955
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:57,560
play them on the side die and you just hop

1956
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,640
over and like that'll be ten thousand dollars and then

1957
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:05,000
they will of course be like be honorable. Well, golly,

1958
01:33:05,039 --> 01:33:09,680
that clever boy got me Yes again. Why wasn't this

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01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,640
man stabbed a hundred times?

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Speaker 3: Because he was that good? Do you know what I mean?

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That good? I don't know, Dan, You should try it out,

1962
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get a hustle.

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Speaker 2: This might have been made some kind of last life.

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You know. By the way.

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Speaker 1: Not not the worst looking guy either.

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Speaker 3: He couldn't have been right you say all those great

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01:33:35,039 --> 01:33:35,880
things about him.

1968
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Speaker 2: He's a handsome fellow. I know, yeah, cool guy.

1969
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,199
Speaker 3: That doesn't look like he can do all the things

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he he did.

1971
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Speaker 2: He did. But what if what if his greatest uh

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con of all was just this is all of this

1973
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was a lie.

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Speaker 1: Right, here's like a more real not a bad looking guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the time. It's for the time, for the time,

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missus strong.

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Speaker 3: His eyes are going the same way. Okay, yeah, yeah,

1978
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:15,680
I learned my life is boring man. Well yeah, what

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an exciting fucking life.

1980
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Speaker 2: And you learn that eventually ninety percent of people will swing.

1981
01:34:23,319 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, not me, But like I, I believe that that's

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01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,680
what you believe, right, who is today?

1983
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Speaker 2: I believe that you.

1984
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Speaker 3: Come by you come to that belief with facts and experience.

1985
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,239
Speaker 1: It's like someone who saw UFO, you know what I mean.

1986
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,319
Speaker 3: I believe that that's what you truly believe you saw.

1987
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what else can you say? Hitler? It's Rostine

1988
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:49,640
Rosti in today? Taylor?

1989
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah what again?

1990
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,039
Speaker 1: The villain of today, the girl on the boat.

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01:34:55,319 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 3: Fuck that bitch.

1992
01:34:57,359 --> 01:34:59,079
Speaker 2: She's like any woman in his story.

1993
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Speaker 3: It's a whole light the start of his murdering day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say his kids, because that's really the

1996
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:10,920
only black mark on his record, his reputation. Yeah, that's

1997
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,680
the really the only bad thing I've heard about this man.

1998
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 3: The only bad thing is that he had kids, not

1999
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,680
that he left them, that he had them in the first.

2000
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Ye mean they made but if they didn't exist, then

2001
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,560
he so their existence makes them the villain.

2002
01:35:25,399 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got for today. Thank you so much. Listen, Jesse,

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thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you guys. It's always fun and

2006
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,159
I always learned so much.

2007
01:35:34,199 --> 01:35:35,239
Speaker 1: Where can the people find you?

2008
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:40,279
Speaker 3: They can find me on Crime Corner audio drops every

2009
01:35:40,319 --> 01:35:45,119
Wednesday eight pm. And Ross Patterson Revolution where we all

2010
01:35:45,399 --> 01:35:47,720
on the Drinking Bros Networks chit Chat where we all

2011
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:52,159
just chit chat and you know, maneuver around Ross Patterson

2012
01:35:52,199 --> 01:35:52,399
and we.

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Speaker 2: Got to go set up in record Crime Corner right now.

2014
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,199
Speaker 3: Yes, Dan is helping me produce Crime Corner if.

2015
01:35:59,039 --> 01:36:01,279
Speaker 1: You like the vibe of this show, but crime instead

2016
01:36:01,319 --> 01:36:03,840
of history. This was crime Crime Corner.

2017
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Speaker 2: Well it was.

2018
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,039
Speaker 3: These people. We try to do ones where like people

2019
01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:09,960
get caught, you know.

2020
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Crime Adjacent Corner is Yeah, it's got looked a

2021
01:36:13,159 --> 01:36:14,680
great life. Yeah, looks the eighty.

2022
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:16,199
Speaker 3: Crime cul de Sac.

2023
01:36:16,359 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, for Damna, Jester and Jesse Wiseman, I am

2024
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:19,399
Rob Fox.

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Speaker 2: You just got Saucer