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<v Speaker 1>In southwest Ohio. One evening in two thousand and sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy and I were fishing at a pond in

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<v Speaker 1>Sycamore State Park. We were downhill from a reservable shelter

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<v Speaker 1>where a wedding reception was being held, and we started

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<v Speaker 1>making our way back up the hill. When we made

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<v Speaker 1>it to the top, we looked over at the shelter

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<v Speaker 1>under the light. Something caught our attention and it made

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<v Speaker 1>a stop in our tracks. It was a nine foot

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<v Speaker 1>tall dark creature standing next to one of the trash cans.

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<v Speaker 1>It stared at us for a couple of seconds, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it turned around and walked into the brush line.

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<v Speaker 1>We ran to the car and sped out of there,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've never been back to that place. Hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. My name is Cam Buckner and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Dixie Cryptid Podcast, also known as the

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<v Speaker 1>what If It's True? Podcast on any podcast app that

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<v Speaker 1>you have on your phone. By to it. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>December and the holiday season off. Hope you guys had

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<v Speaker 1>a great Christmas in New Year, by the way, But

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<v Speaker 1>I took that time off and just didn't do much

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<v Speaker 1>of nothing, and I am recharged and ready to get

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<v Speaker 1>back and get back at this podcast and everything else

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<v Speaker 1>I do during the day. Let's say we've got nine

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<v Speaker 1>stories in this podcast, because I owe it to you

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<v Speaker 1>been gone for about three weeks. The last story might

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<v Speaker 1>be the most interesting story in this podcast. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes long, and it is an email I got

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<v Speaker 1>from a federal game warden. Read the story, thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting. He left his phone number, and I called

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<v Speaker 1>him and asked him about this story. Normally I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I mean, it's like one out of a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand that I'll call when people send their phone number.

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<v Speaker 1>He give me a call if you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I don't. I don't have time for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I call this guy because the story was so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and it kind of matched up with the missing

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<v Speaker 1>person's phenomenon. So he and I talked. Actually we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. He as a partner that he

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<v Speaker 1>worked with for years. He's retired now, but he as

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<v Speaker 1>a partner he's worked with for years and together they

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<v Speaker 1>have some amazing stories. He's written one more and he's

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<v Speaker 1>promised to send me a couple more, give me a

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<v Speaker 1>series of about four or five. So as I do them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make the thumbnail. It'll be a missing person's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thumbnail, and you'll know that it's another one in

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<v Speaker 1>the series. And I'm including it with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other stories. So you guys can all you people who

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<v Speaker 1>fall asleep can listen to this over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>snooze off while I read a story. Seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a popular activity when my podcast has gone going on. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining me on this podcast. I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>get into it all right, here we go. My cousin's

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<v Speaker 1>husband was sitting next to me at dinner one night.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew he was an outdoorsman working on wildlife conservation projects,

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<v Speaker 1>so I turned to him and asked him about the

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<v Speaker 1>spotted owl project that he had been working on. His

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<v Speaker 1>entire demeanor changed, his skin paled and his hand trembled

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<v Speaker 1>as he reached for his glass. I saw them. You

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<v Speaker 1>know they're huge, he said, the owls I asked. He

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<v Speaker 1>shook his head and looked away. It was never about owls,

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<v Speaker 1>never about owls, he kept saying. Taking another drink, his

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<v Speaker 1>hands still trembling, and he dropped his voice and leaned

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<v Speaker 1>in and he whispered softly. It was about Sasquatching. It

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<v Speaker 1>was always about that beast. He quit talking now after that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so taken aback by his response that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ask him anything else. Already believed in Sasquatch as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I could remember, and had so many questions

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<v Speaker 1>for him, but I kept them to myself. The way

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<v Speaker 1>he spoke about it to me, it pained him. His

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<v Speaker 1>body language was screaming trauma. I desperately wondered what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to him out there on his soul called a spotted

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<v Speaker 1>owl project, but I didn't dare to ask him. He

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<v Speaker 1>passed away now, and I never once doubted that he

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<v Speaker 1>was telling the truth. His demeanor that night was confirmation

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<v Speaker 1>enough to me that we had been deceived and there's

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<v Speaker 1>something in the woods they don't want us to know about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that is such a cryptic little email. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of background, which I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like those. I kind of like those stories where it

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<v Speaker 1>just tells the story. I think it's more impact Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the shorter stories are more impactful than the long drawn

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<v Speaker 1>out I'm a I'm a he man, mountain man kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But this was really good. So this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>out on this spotted owl project, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a is something that goes on in the Northwest. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we have spotted owls where I live.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have some big old barn owls and other

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<v Speaker 1>kind of owls. I have them land up in my

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<v Speaker 1>pine trees out in front in my front yard in

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<v Speaker 1>the summertime, and I'll see one of them, a big one,

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<v Speaker 1>swoop up and land on a branch, and I walk

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<v Speaker 1>right up but underneath them, and look up at him

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<v Speaker 1>and take pictures of them, and they just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>look down at me. And when they're looking down at me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of they are an amazing bird. But when

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<v Speaker 1>they look down at me, it's like, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>a little smaller, I think I'd eat you. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>vibe I get from an owl. And I have two

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<v Speaker 1>little dogs. I don't think they would eat my little dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>but they might anyway. I love owls. But he's out

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<v Speaker 1>there on his spottedt oul project and it's disguised as

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<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch project, and she was afraid to ever ask

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<v Speaker 1>him the question. Again. I kind of get that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get that kind of response from somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't talk much you just leave it alone and you

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<v Speaker 1>take it for what it's worth. Anyway, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>great story. I really appreciate the writer sending it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so good. Thank you. I am an active duty

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<v Speaker 1>soldier stationed at Fort Stuart, Georgia. Earlier this year. My

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<v Speaker 1>unit was out on training for forty five days. In

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<v Speaker 1>that time, we trained day and night, and we slept

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<v Speaker 1>under the stars, sometimes in the woods and sometimes out

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<v Speaker 1>in open fields. On one night, we had just finished training,

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<v Speaker 1>five of us were huddled together watching the clouds drift

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<v Speaker 1>overhead as we talked about anything and everything. The planet

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<v Speaker 1>Venus was prominent in the night sky and the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting fairly low. We were able to make out

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<v Speaker 1>both of them through the clouds. As we admired the view,

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<v Speaker 1>large bright object appeared beneath the glow of Venus. None

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<v Speaker 1>of us could figure out what it was. It had

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<v Speaker 1>appeared out of nowhere and was sitting in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the clouds and was shining brighter than Venus. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an aircraft because it wasn't moving or blinking. We got

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the conversation and again about one thing or another.

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<v Speaker 1>When one of our group pointed out that the light

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<v Speaker 1>had disappeared and then reappeared a full ninety degrees away.

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<v Speaker 1>All eyes were back on this light, and again it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't moving. As we watched it, it started releasing a

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<v Speaker 1>ring of white smoke. It was circular at first, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it expanded into a sideway's heart shape. It was

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<v Speaker 1>big and loose at first, and then started to get

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<v Speaker 1>smaller somehow, and it became more defined until poof the

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<v Speaker 1>object and the shot out of sight. The strangest part

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<v Speaker 1>was that all of the clouds in the sky disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>in an instant, and all of the stars popped on

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<v Speaker 1>this massive canvas of black, as if a switch had

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<v Speaker 1>been flipped. The five of us looked at each other,

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<v Speaker 1>relieved we had seen the same thing, knowing anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>would have called us crazy and locked us up. The

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<v Speaker 1>next day, I couldn't stop thinking about it. At least

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<v Speaker 1>three other soldiers from different areas of our training site

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<v Speaker 1>saw it too. It was the strangest thing I had

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen, and I've never been able to explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what a cool story. Now that's a UFS That

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<v Speaker 1>is a UFO story. I've never heard smoke coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of the UFO making some kind of shape in the

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<v Speaker 1>sky and then boom, it's gone and all the clouds

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<v Speaker 1>are gone. Now that is weird. I love all this

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<v Speaker 1>UFO stuff, and it's actually become so the word popular.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of information out on these things now

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<v Speaker 1>nobody still nobody knows what they are, but the so

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<v Speaker 1>that the just the light sightings become less interesting. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about? But these light sightings

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<v Speaker 1>are exciting to me because I think I've seen something like,

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<v Speaker 1>not this, but something lights in the sky. I've described

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<v Speaker 1>it before. I have no idea what it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was probably all explainable, and you know, it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>just a natural thing, an aircraft or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've seen lights in the sky and the way

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you feel is like, oh man, that is

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<v Speaker 1>so cool to see something different like that. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be nothing like in movies, you know, do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys like the UFO type movies. Like one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite movies of all time is Close Encounters of the

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<v Speaker 1>Third Kind. That movie. I could watch it today and

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<v Speaker 1>it still takes me back to that time when I

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<v Speaker 1>was just in wonder an amazement at all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that could be it's the the UFO type, alien type

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<v Speaker 1>films that come out now. They're so I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just I don't know if it's the writers or

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. I just watched. We bought a subscription

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<v Speaker 1>to Apple TV, and I got to tell you, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like anything by Apple. I don't like their phones,

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<v Speaker 1>your Apple account is a major pain. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>anything else anyway. We subscribe to Apple TV to watch

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<v Speaker 1>a specific series. It was probably a year ago, maybe more,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was going to cancel the subscription, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've kept it all this time, hoping they put something

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<v Speaker 1>good back up. Well, along comes this series called Pluribus

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<v Speaker 1>now Pluribus on Apple TV, A series created by a

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<v Speaker 1>man named Vince Gilligan who was the I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>was the creator of the was it the AMC or

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<v Speaker 1>FX series Breaking Bad? Which I thought was awesome. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a great series. It went on for years, so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh man, this is going to be good.

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<v Speaker 1>And they really hyped it up to begin with. They

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<v Speaker 1>really hyped up ploribis well. I watched the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>one night. It was kind of late. My wife and

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it and we thought, oh, this is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we watched the next episode and it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the same thing. And I got to the ninth

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<v Speaker 1>final episode and the story never changed. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>there were things happening, obviously, but it was the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing over and over and over again. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the I was so disappointed in that series. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, is this thing? Is anything ever gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't recommend Ploribus. That's just me. I liked

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<v Speaker 1>stories that move. That was. Man, what a letdown for

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<v Speaker 1>this for that series Pluribus. We did, however, watch a

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<v Speaker 1>movie I think it was called The Astronaut. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an alien spaceship kind of movie and it moves really

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<v Speaker 1>fast and the ending was awesome. When it was over,

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<v Speaker 1>I turned to my wife and I said, now that

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<v Speaker 1>is a good movie. That was a good story. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a cool surprise ending. It was kind of a heartwarming.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's a horror type story, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate ending that just made you go, oh wow, now

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<v Speaker 1>that was cool. So I recommend that. I can't. We

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<v Speaker 1>where it's showing. But if you can find a film

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<v Speaker 1>enough you acting about UFO stuff. I just thought that

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<v Speaker 1>series called Pluribus. If you liked plur of Us, make

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<v Speaker 1>a comment in the comment section below what you thought

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I thought it was horrible, horrible. Anyway, let

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<v Speaker 1>me know what you like. What do you like in

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<v Speaker 1>UFO type sci fi movies? Let me know this little story.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember when I got this. When you first

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. It seems to be just a piece

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought you guys might like it. We'll do

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<v Speaker 1>this one before we get into our missing person's serious

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot story. I think it's a bigfoot story. You'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to decide anyway. Listen to this fun story. I had

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<v Speaker 1>adventure and almost getting eaten by a bear. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>things couldn't get much worse, but they did. We learned

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<v Speaker 1>for another visit. We figured that after the dragon's scared,

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<v Speaker 1>they would never return, but we were wrong. The thought

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<v Speaker 1>of having to return to sleeping in the barn and

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<v Speaker 1>listening to their silly giggling made my Dame even more depressing.

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<v Speaker 1>The boys decided it was time for us to do

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<v Speaker 1>was surely scared the snooty girl so bad that they

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<v Speaker 1>would never want to visit us again. The creature was

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<v Speaker 1>called sasquatch, stood about eight feet tall and was covered

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<v Speaker 1>in thick black hair. What seemed amazing was it walked

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<v Speaker 1>that resembled a sasquatch and scare the girls they would

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<v Speaker 1>never come visit again. Using a picture from a magazine

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<v Speaker 1>as a model, we made our sasquatch costume. We used

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<v Speaker 1>and an old cowskull made the perfect head. This costume

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<v Speaker 1>was really scary looking. Now we had to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>good manners she gave us a big smile, and Grandpa

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<v Speaker 1>Our way suggested the girls should get out and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>swell idea, so we invited the girls to go doberry picking.

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<v Speaker 1>It was decided the following morning would be the ideal

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<v Speaker 1>time to pick berries. We found the perfect spot for

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<v Speaker 1>the girls to the berry picking spot, while Reuben hid

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<v Speaker 1>in the nearby bushes wearing the sasquatch costume. I was

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<v Speaker 1>Reuben's assistant in case he needed any help. On their

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<v Speaker 1>story about a wild man that roam the river bottoms nearby,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would occasionally be seen by folks. The girls

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<v Speaker 1>got scared and wanted to return to the house, but

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<v Speaker 1>Jake assured them that he would protect them if the

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<v Speaker 1>they soon forgot about the wild man and started giggling

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<v Speaker 1>and talking their girl talk. Reuben waited a while before

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<v Speaker 1>The girls didn't notice him at first, but after he

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<v Speaker 1>screamed in terror. Now one might not think girls wearing

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<v Speaker 1>skirts and petticoats could run fast, but these girls raced

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<v Speaker 1>off through the woods like gus elves. One girl fell

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<v Speaker 1>down in a mud hole and was covered from head

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<v Speaker 1>to toe and gooey slime. The other tore her dress

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<v Speaker 1>on a thorn bush, lost a shoe, and even managed

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<v Speaker 1>to step in some bull nettles after a good long life.

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<v Speaker 1>We realized we might have gone too far with our

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<v Speaker 1>wildman trick and probably had some tall explaining to do

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<v Speaker 1>when we returned home. The story we finally decided on

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<v Speaker 1>was that our old black Shad and Gorara goat had

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<v Speaker 1>probably followed us to the berry patch, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what the girls had seen. I don't think anyone believed

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<v Speaker 1>our story, but we were not punished. That same afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>Aunt Myrtle and the girls left for home. Good riddance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably just a fun story, but it's a good story.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys like that, and I appreciate the

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<v Speaker 1>writer taking time to do this. I don't know this

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<v Speaker 1>story could be true, but it's not necessarily a Bigfoot story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bigfoot hoak story, and it's a good one

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<v Speaker 1>at that. But anyway, thanks to the writer for sending it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really really entertaining. Thanks. Okay, I think Rebecca

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<v Speaker 1>labeled this a Bigfoot story. I'm reading it cold. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a short, little story, but it looks kind of good.

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<v Speaker 1>One night in nineteen sixty nine, I got up to

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<v Speaker 1>get a glass of water in the kitchen. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the glass, and I screamed. My family laughed at me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember it clearly to this day. The round,

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<v Speaker 1>soulful eyes and the large head and the beautiful colors

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<v Speaker 1>stand out in my mind. Since that night, I have

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<v Speaker 1>experienced one strange thing after another. Animals of all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>come right up to me, and strange lights follow me home,

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<v Speaker 1>and objects in my house seem to move on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>My relatives think I'm crazy, and if it weren't for

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<v Speaker 1>my children, who have witnessed every event, I might think

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<v Speaker 1>I was losing my mind too. I still live in

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<v Speaker 1>the same area that I grew up in. At night,

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<v Speaker 1>when the motion lights flicker on and off, I hear

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<v Speaker 1>slaps at my bedroom window and strange howls from the woods. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there are many things we humans don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I trust that my Lord is King, and I fear

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<v Speaker 1>nothing because he promised to protect me and mine. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I was chosen to witness these strange things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel very blessed. Love your podcast. And she

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<v Speaker 1>her Uh, well, that could be a guy name. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great story. And that's exactly how I would

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<v Speaker 1>feel if I saw Bigfoot or I saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of these cryptids that didn't kill me or eat me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would feel so lucky. And I can see

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<v Speaker 1>why people say it would change my life, change their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, to see something you've never seen, something

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<v Speaker 1>that you think could there's no way it could exist,

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<v Speaker 1>would be life changing. And it would. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>like about this story is, all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 1>the blue wild animals come up to her. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>she means deer, and probably some of the other smaller

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<v Speaker 1>wildlife where she lives. But this was a great story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a short one, but it was really good. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of gunpowder in these short stories, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love them. So you guys keep sending them. I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. Thank you to the writer. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a show enough Bigfoot story. I was raised in

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<v Speaker 1>TV with the windows open. Out of nowhere, my father

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<v Speaker 1>jumped up and grabbed the remote and he shouted did

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<v Speaker 1>y'all hear that? My mother and I shrugged, and he

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<v Speaker 1>told us to wait and listen. We got up off

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<v Speaker 1>looked outside, right across from us as my grandfather's and

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<v Speaker 1>an eight foot tall bigfoot standing at my cousin's window,

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<v Speaker 1>staring at him as he slept. My dad got on

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. And my grandfather grabbed U thirty thirty Winchester

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<v Speaker 1>When he opened the door, he caught the bigfoot reaching

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<v Speaker 1>in the window toward my little cousin. And when he

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<v Speaker 1>realized what he was looking at and what this big

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<v Speaker 1>brute was trying to do, we heard him yell out,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, you stinking s hope. He opened

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<v Speaker 1>fire on it and shot it straight in the chest.

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<v Speaker 1>The bigfoot roared and hit the side of my grandfather's

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<v Speaker 1>trailer so hard that the force knocked it off its

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<v Speaker 1>brick foundation. And there we were in our home right

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<v Speaker 1>across from it, watching it all happen. My dad and

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<v Speaker 1>I were in protective mode at that point. We grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>our rifles and joined our grandfather outside and unloaded into

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<v Speaker 1>the beast. That thing roared and tore through the trees

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<v Speaker 1>like a D nine bulldozer. My mother called the police

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<v Speaker 1>while we checked on my cousin. He was unaware of

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<v Speaker 1>anything happening. The gunshots in the same room barely woke

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<v Speaker 1>him up. I swear that kid could sleep through a

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<v Speaker 1>raging hurricane. Betty was drunk. Thirty minutes later, two deputies

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<v Speaker 1>showed up and we told them what had happened. After

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<v Speaker 1>hearing everything, one of the deputies took us flashlight out

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<v Speaker 1>and shined it in our eyes and asked us where

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<v Speaker 1>about to whoop his ass till the other deputy stepped in.

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<v Speaker 1>He told his partner to open his eyes and look

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<v Speaker 1>at the condition of the trailer. There was no man

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<v Speaker 1>who could cause that kind of damage to a mobile

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<v Speaker 1>his flashlight a few feet away and lit up a

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<v Speaker 1>massive track this beast had made. There were complete right

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<v Speaker 1>and left prints in the dirt, and then another right print.

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<v Speaker 1>Three steps. That's all it took for Bigfoot to reach

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<v Speaker 1>the woods. We measured the tracks and they were seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>inches long and six inches white. The deputy with common

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<v Speaker 1>sense said it looked like foot. He took the report

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<v Speaker 1>and took pictures, and right before he left, he looked

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<v Speaker 1>at us and said, I don't let nobody tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that was a bear, and then he left. We love

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<v Speaker 1>your show, and we've been listening for six years now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to use my name. I know what I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>The writer's name is Elvis Man. What an action packed story.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe your cousin didn't wake up. That was crazy. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>at least you had a deputy on your side and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody thought you were crazy. I love this story. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems really familiar to me. It's almost like I've done

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<v Speaker 1>it before. But I don't think. I'm thinking. Maybe sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I read these and I've just read them before, I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't really narrated them. I have so many to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do so many of these stories that it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's hard to keep up with and when there

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<v Speaker 1>are duplicates, so if they are, I'm sorry, But it

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<v Speaker 1>does seem kind of familiar, but it's heck, it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>doing again. It's so good it's worth doing again. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the story, Elvis. All right, here's a story

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<v Speaker 1>about a ghost that I thought was fantastic. My experience

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<v Speaker 1>starts out like any other great adventure, a summer trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Silverwood Themed Park in North Idaho. I've been to

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<v Speaker 1>Silverwood many times, and I reserved a beautiful cabin there

420
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<v Speaker 1>for my birthday weekend, with a view of the lake

421
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<v Speaker 1>and the woods. My sister and I left the west

422
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<v Speaker 1>side of Washington State in the wee hours and we

423
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<v Speaker 1>made the five and a half hour road trip. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a great day checking out the park, and we

425
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<v Speaker 1>walked some easy trails and hung out near the lake,

426
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<v Speaker 1>and we toured the on site historic military museum. At

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<v Speaker 1>the museum, we were in the brig which displayed the

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<v Speaker 1>history and daily life of this World War II naval

429
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<v Speaker 1>training station, when I was overcome with a cold chill

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<v Speaker 1>and a sudden urge to leave later that night in

431
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<v Speaker 1>the cab, I went outside and walked a short distance

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<v Speaker 1>to the sheared bedroom. I was in a hurry and

433
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<v Speaker 1>eager to get back to the warm bunk in the cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>When I realized I was being watched, I stopped and

435
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<v Speaker 1>looked toward the restroom, and I got the same cold

436
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<v Speaker 1>chill as I had in the brig. Right in front

437
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<v Speaker 1>of me, it was a full body apparition of a

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<v Speaker 1>soldier wearing a dark button up uniform and a flat

439
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<v Speaker 1>style hat, holding a rifle over his left shoulder. He

440
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<v Speaker 1>was a bit out of focus and not totally solid.

441
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<v Speaker 1>I could not make out his facial features, and I

442
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<v Speaker 1>saw through him as if through a thick cloud of smoke.

443
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<v Speaker 1>I ran it full sprength the rest of the way

444
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<v Speaker 1>back to the bathroom, where I realized I was totally alone.

445
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<v Speaker 1>My cell had no signal. By this time, my sister

446
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<v Speaker 1>was fast asleep, and I knew that this thing was

447
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<v Speaker 1>still out there. After I got the nerve to exit

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<v Speaker 1>the outer house, it was even darker outside. I looked

449
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 1>around and I didn't see anything. Thinking I was just

450
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>being paranoid or that I was imagining this thing, I

451
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 1>headed back to the cabin, feeling a little bit dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got to about the halfway mark, I heard

453
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<v Speaker 1>a large crack and a thud, the same sound of

454
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<v Speaker 1>branch makes as it snaps off a tree and hits

455
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the ground. Straight ahead of me, I saw a figure again.

456
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<v Speaker 1>This time it was more defined, standing at the trailer head,

457
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<v Speaker 1>just inside the darker shadow of the night. This time

458
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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't afraid of him. I couldn't explain it. I

459
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 1>got the feeling that he was trying to protect me.

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<v Speaker 1>He was telling me that I was safe and that

461
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<v Speaker 1>he was there to watch over us. I wasn't as

462
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>afraid as before, but I was still shaking. After all,

463
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<v Speaker 1>I had just seen a ghost. I went back into

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<v Speaker 1>the cabin and I stayed awake the entire night. When

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<v Speaker 1>I woke my sister up the next morning, I had

466
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>already packed the car and I was ready to leave.

467
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<v Speaker 1>The front desk ladies reaction when I checked out that

468
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<v Speaker 1>morning still makes me wonder how often people leave this

469
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<v Speaker 1>place early. I walked in looking more than a little frazzled,

470
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<v Speaker 1>and I told her we wanted to check out early.

471
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<v Speaker 1>The woman took one look at me and asked very

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<v Speaker 1>hesitantly how our stay was, and I guess my facial

473
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>expression was all the answers she needed. Days later, I

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00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.559
<v Speaker 1>noticed that a full refund for the stay had been

475
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<v Speaker 1>issued to me. Thank you for giving me an out

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<v Speaker 1>that to share this encounter. I've been enjoying your podcast

477
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years now, and I appreciate your

478
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>content and your comforting voice. Well you're welcome. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. If it wasn't for you guys listening, I

480
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<v Speaker 1>might be doing a little bit of this. But I

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<v Speaker 1>it's all because you listen, that's the reason, and people

482
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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. But this was a great story. She you know,

483
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<v Speaker 1>these stories are so believable to me. Some of them

484
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 1>are packed with a little bit of corny stuff, but man,

485
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<v Speaker 1>every story I've read in this podcast tonight has been

486
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, everything rings true to me. I really

487
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 1>appreciate these things. So thank you for sending the story

488
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>as a great story. And I wonder how your life

489
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>changed and your outlook on life change after seeing this

490
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>apparition at that World War II naval facility. It's unbelievable, unbelievable,

491
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 1>a real ghost. Oh. I love these stories. Thank you

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00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 1>again to the writer. Last fall, six of my girlfriends

493
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<v Speaker 1>and I were on a self guided mule deer and

494
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 1>elk hunt. We are all ice hockey players from Minnesota

495
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>who have been friends since we were ten. Every year

496
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>since we graduated high school, we get together for a

497
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>hunting trip. Whether it's for Hoggs in Texas, Antelope on

498
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the Plains, black bear in Canada. We used long bows,

499
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>compound bows, or rifles. This year, we decided to do

500
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a second season rifle hunt in Colorado, so we packed

501
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<v Speaker 1>our ATVs in side by sides on our trailers and

502
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 1>took off into the mountains. We had reserved a site

503
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<v Speaker 1>through an outfitter named Scott, who we had gotten to

504
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>know over the past few years. We got to the

505
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>camp site three hours from the nearest road, and we

506
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 1>found that Scott had already set up a large outfitter's

507
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>tent and installed a wood burning stove for us and

508
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 1>stacked a cord of firewood in there with us. That

509
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<v Speaker 1>gave us extra time to do some scouting and find

510
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 1>what was lurking around nearby that we could harvest. That night,

511
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.119
<v Speaker 1>we built a campfire and we sat around eating fried

512
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 1>maloney sandwiches. Wait a minute, where are you from? Who

513
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 1>else in this audience loves fried blowney sandwiches. I like

514
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 1>it about three eighths of an inch stick, a big

515
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>water slong on top of it, and some mustard on

516
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 1>a Hamburger. Vun just had to throw that in back

517
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to the story. They were drinking red wine and catching

518
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>up on each other's lives. Now, I don't drink red

519
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>wine with my blowney sandwiches, but that doesn't matter. Late

520
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>at night, Brent grabbed her flashlight and her nine millimeter

521
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and slipped outside to water the plants behind the tent.

522
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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, as we were getting ready to head

523
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<v Speaker 1>out in the early dark hours, she told us that

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<v Speaker 1>she heard something walking around just out of sight of

525
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 1>her light behind the tent. We decided to buddy up

526
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>in pairs and set out on our hunt. Lacy and

527
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I hiked back along the ridge about two miles away,

528
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>where we could look down into a long meadow. The

529
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 1>entire time we were there, we felt that we were

530
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>being watched. The hair on the back of our necks

531
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 1>was standing on in. Occasionally hear twigs and sticks breaking nearby,

532
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 1>strange coyote howls, and exaggerated unnatural owl hoots. We stayed

533
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 1>within ten yards of each other all morning, taking turns

534
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>watching our six while the other watched the meadow. We

535
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything that day that we wanted to waste

536
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 1>a tag on, and When we started walking back to camp,

537
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>we heard something pacing us off to the right, just

538
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>out of sight. We both had our fingers on our safeties,

539
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>ready to turn our weapons loose if needed. We were

540
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 1>the last ones back at camp that night, and nobody

541
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>had filled a tag except Carly and Britt, who also

542
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that they had felt like they were watched that night.

543
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Britt insisted on standing guard, certain that something was out

544
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>there watching us. The next day, Lacey shot a ten

545
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>point mule deer. When we got back to the camp

546
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to get our quad to drag it out, we saw

547
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Britt and Carly getting their ATV ready to drag back

548
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>an olk that was unfortunate enough to cross of Brit

549
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>that morning. Once we had gutted Lacey's butt and corded

550
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it out and loaded up our quad, we headed back

551
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>before the others got back. We had time to hang

552
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the meat in nearby trees fifteen feet off the ground

553
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 1>to keep it out of each of the bears. It

554
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>was almost dark when Carly and Brit rolled in, but

555
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they did not have an elk, which explained Britt's foul mood.

556
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 1>She was almost certifiably insane. She was ranting about killing

557
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 1>the thing that stole her bull elk, and insisting that

558
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>she would find some way to track him down. She

559
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 1>was so upset that the rest of us were afraid

560
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 1>of her and for her. After we had eaten the

561
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>backstraps from Lacey's deer and Brent had finished two bottles

562
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 1>of wine, we got her tucked into her sleeping bag

563
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and took turns watching her over night. The next morning,

564
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Lacy and I went along with Carly and Brett to

565
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<v Speaker 1>help find the missing bowl elk. We got to where

566
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<v Speaker 1>the elk had fallen, but there was nothing to indicate

567
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 1>that anyone or anything had been there and carried it off.

568
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>We scoured the area in all directions for three hundred yards,

569
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<v Speaker 1>finding not so much as a single drop of blood.

570
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Brett accepted that the elk must have been alive, just unconscious,

571
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 1>and the wound must have clotted up. It must have

572
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 1>run off and died while she and Carly went to

573
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>fetch the ATV, which she felt horrible about. That evening,

574
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the two Jessicas and Chelsea came back in with another

575
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>mule deer, and after getting it hung up, we broke

576
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>out a bottle of bourbon to go with the fresh

577
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>inner tenderloins and sang and carried on into the night.

578
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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, we discovered there was an entire rear

579
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<v Speaker 1>quarter missing that we had hung the night before. We

580
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>decided one of us should stay at the camp to

581
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<v Speaker 1>guard the rest of our meat while the others went hunting.

582
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Jessica Ti drew the short straw and the rest of

583
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<v Speaker 1>us headed out. Luck was shining down on us because

584
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<v Speaker 1>Britt shot a beautiful bull elk that came in on

585
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<v Speaker 1>a string when she blew her bugle. Lacy and Chelsea

586
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.199
<v Speaker 1>and I headed back to get the quads when we

587
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>heard a shot coming from the direction of the camp.

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<v Speaker 1>We picked up our pace, shouting as we got nearer

589
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to jess so that she wouldn't shoot us. And when

590
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 1>we got there, one of the other rear quarters was

591
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.599
<v Speaker 1>swinging from a rope. Jess was standing with her weapon pointed.

592
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 1>She began rattling about a massive bear like thing that

593
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.159
<v Speaker 1>reached up for the meat, about to grab it, when

594
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>she shot and scared it off. Later, we started five

595
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 1>large campfires around the meat to ward off any predators

596
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that may want to take advantage of an easy meal.

597
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<v Speaker 1>Brett offered to take over watch again, that night and

598
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<v Speaker 1>the rest of us went to bed. At four am,

599
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<v Speaker 1>she started waking us up, saying she had seen something

600
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 1>moving in the shadows around the lit area of the meat.

601
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<v Speaker 1>We slid out of our sleeping bags, grabbed our rifles,

602
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and looked through the tent opening. The campfire still provided

603
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>enough light that we could see the shadows from the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the tent. A few minutes later, an

605
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>awful smell overwhelmed the camp. I wish I could have

606
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.599
<v Speaker 1>bottled that smell and sprayed it on some other hockey

607
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>teams equipment years ago. We were motionless, gazing out the

608
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>slit of the tent flap, waiting for that bear to

609
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>pop out. We did not have a bear tag, but

610
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 1>this troublemaker was going down. All of a sudden, something

611
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 1>moved along the side of our tent. We could see

612
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the top of the tent being pressed down, as if

613
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>something were testing the consistency of the material. It slowly

614
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 1>moved toward the open in front. When we could see

615
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 1>the shadow of this creature standing on two legs and

616
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>heading toward the fires in the meat. This was no bear.

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00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.079
<v Speaker 1>It was human like, standing taller than the top of

618
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 1>the tent. Which must have been over seven feet tall,

619
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<v Speaker 1>leaving its shoulders at least that high. The thickness of

620
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>this monster was wider than a hockey goal. Two shots

621
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>rang out. Britton Lacey both fired through the tent towards

622
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<v Speaker 1>the creature. The swiftness of this thing's escape was unimaginable.

623
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.880
<v Speaker 1>It took off across the open area directly in front

624
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.559
<v Speaker 1>of the tent, where three more shots rang out. Seconds later,

625
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>we were all out of the tent looking for blood,

626
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and we found some, but not in the quantities that

627
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>one might expect. Just a few minutes later, roarers sounded

628
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>all around our camp. We grabbed our gear, cut down

629
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>our meat, and loaded up the eight ten, strapping the

630
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 1>heads and meat down so they wouldn't fall off, and

631
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>leaving one of the rear quarters from the elk hanging

632
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in the tree, hoping that the creature would be happy

633
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>with the offering and leave us alone. More roars and

634
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 1>screams broke the darkness, and trees and limbs and rocks

635
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>started to rain down on the tent, smashing into the ground.

636
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 1>We decided to make tracks and get our butts back

637
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to Minnesota. That was less than twenty minutes before the

638
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>sun started to come up, and we were hauling ass

639
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 1>down the trail, with Chelsea and Jess watching our six

640
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and occasionally firing off a couple of rounds to discourage

641
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.519
<v Speaker 1>any pursuit if they saw something suspicious. During all this time,

642
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 1>we could hear something crashing through the woods on both

643
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.559
<v Speaker 1>sides of us. As the sun rose and the visibility improved,

644
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we were able to open the throttle and increase our speed,

645
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 1>and we began to outpace whatever was pursuing us to

646
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>ours later and back in our trucks. We loaded and

647
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>made our way home in one piece, with the story

648
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that would brand us crazier than loons. I would like

649
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you to envision the people's faces when we stopped to

650
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>fill up or grab something to eat, and those three

651
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 1>heads were strapped to our side by sides. The remark

652
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 1>of the day was, you girls must be proud of

653
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>your men for taking such a nice animals. We let

654
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Britt set them straight. We did call Scott and ask

655
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>him why he would put us in a location where

656
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a family of Bigfoot was living. When he went back

657
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 1>with several of his guides, they found the camp was

658
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>destroyed with the cast iron campso smashed into the ground,

659
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>leaving nothing more than scrap metal. Parts of the tent

660
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 1>were hanging in the trees thirty feet off the ground,

661
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and coolers were smashed, and the rear quarter was still

662
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.320
<v Speaker 1>hanging in the tree. We've got decided to close that

663
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 1>area for the near future and move his clients to

664
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 1>other locations for a third rifle season. On our next time,

665
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>we would do something a bit less dangerous, like gator

666
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 1>hunting or hog hunting with spears. With all our love,

667
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and she signs off the seven she devils. I tell

668
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you what that is, seven she devils. Those girls are

669
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 1>tougher nails. I mean they're going out by themselves and

670
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>hunting elk and hogs and gaiters, and I guess they

671
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>just love the outdoors and love to have fun. I

672
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 1>thought this was a great story. It's a terrifying story.

673
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were scared, but they had enough sense

674
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 1>to protect themselves. A couple of them got pissed off

675
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>at these things, and I don't know. I think if

676
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 1>they had their choice, they may have stayed and fought

677
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 1>them out. Who knows, but this was a great story.

678
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>You girls are You're more man than me and my book.

679
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 1>How about that? Thanks for the story, she devils? Okay.

680
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Here is the letter from the Federal Game Warden the story.

681
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>The events in this story apparently happened back in the

682
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>early nineteen eighties. He doesn't give a timeline here, and

683
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't give a specific location. I think he's trying

684
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to be cryptic with us with this information because I

685
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe it's a big secret. But let's see.

686
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Here's the story. It's really good. The day after Christmas,

687
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>two college students launched their john boat into an ox

688
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 1>bow of the Mississippi River. Ice crack when the trailer

689
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.639
<v Speaker 1>entered the water, but it was only a thin sheet

690
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and it would be clear when the sun warmed the

691
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:46.159
<v Speaker 1>water's surface. They had hunted since the season opened and

692
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>had mostly good days, many days killing their limit of millards.

693
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>The Halliday break meant they only had another week to

694
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 1>get after the migrating birds, and then it was back

695
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to school, two hundred miles from the flyway. The next season,

696
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>being a year away, seemed like an eternity. They were

697
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>planning to hunt every day until they had to return

698
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to campus. It was probably an exciting morning. The migration

699
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 1>was in full swing. Birds were in the area and

700
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>holding due to the food available. All indications were that

701
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 1>their twenty five horsepower mercury started without problems. It was

702
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 1>only in its second year of use. It was new

703
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.599
<v Speaker 1>and well maintained, and an outboard they had bought new

704
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>together for a john boat they had picked up and

705
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>fixed up from the want eds of the commercial appeal.

706
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>The hunters were experienced with sometimes wild waters and weather

707
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:46.519
<v Speaker 1>of the Lower Mississippi base and during winter. From interviews

708
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>later with family and friends, the two hunters practiced good safety.

709
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.639
<v Speaker 1>They didn't take chances. Life jackets were worn in the

710
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>boat until they had stopped tip waiters would put on

711
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>only before they entered the water that didn't travel over

712
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the water. In those everyone knew the stories of hunters

713
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>who had drowned after being dragged under with full waiters.

714
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>The boat was always apparently left secured whenever they left

715
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the boat, and it was within walking distance in case

716
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:19.519
<v Speaker 1>they needed to get out fast. They did everything they

717
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>knew to stay alive in an environment that, with any mishap,

718
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 1>would kill you in minutes. Yet the young enthusiastic duck

719
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 1>hunters left the ramp in the dark of that morning

720
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 1>and they have never been heard from since. From nineteen

721
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 1>seventy five until nineteen ninety five, I worked for the

722
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>US Department of the Interior the US Fish and Wildlife

723
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Services as a federal game warden. My assignment through the

724
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 1>winter was to patrol a specific wildlife refuge in the Delta.

725
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>At this time, I reported to the refuge manager. He

726
00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>was my superior. I later became a refuge manager and

727
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 1>then as zone manager, but that is another story. I

728
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.679
<v Speaker 1>was from the area. I had grown up hunting and

729
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>fishing on this refuge, and I knew many of the residents,

730
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 1>so the role I played during the years that I

731
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 1>was assigned there came natural to me. I was in

732
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 1>my second year there, and I like to think that

733
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I escorted the trash out the door and made an

734
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 1>impact for conservation. It was never a dull day. There

735
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>were stints where we were assigned to varying task forces

736
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 1>with the DEA, the ATF, and even the FBI to

737
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>deal with organized crime operations running drugs and weapons through

738
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 1>the lowland areas that might include the refuge where I

739
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 1>was assigned. It was dangerous work and we were not

740
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>paid enough for the level of risk. We took while

741
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>dealing with those crimes, but it was one of the

742
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>exciting eras of the time that I served. When I

743
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>heard the radio chatter of the two college boys who

744
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>had not returned that night. I was heading out of

745
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:07.039
<v Speaker 1>the refuge on a rutted logging road that I frequently

746
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 1>used because it gave me access to launch my boat

747
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>into several areas. I stopped the truck when my four

748
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>wheel drive crawled up on some solid ground, and I

749
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>killed the engine and listened to the radio from the

750
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>county Sheriff's department. It had been dark for an hour.

751
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>A deputy had been dispatched to a boat ramp several

752
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>miles north and was to meet the father of one

753
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of the boys and investigate the situation. I got the

754
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>whole story of the boys being due home by two

755
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>or three that afternoon, and it was now dark and

756
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.159
<v Speaker 1>they hadn't shown up. Their car was still at the

757
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 1>ramp with the trailer attached. They had left that morning,

758
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 1>and they should have been back. Damn right, they should

759
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>have been back. I knew this story like I had

760
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>written it a thousand times. I had not had the

761
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 1>experience of finding drowned duck hunters, with this being my

762
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>only second year on the job, but I knew the

763
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>stories from growing up in the area. But over my career, however,

764
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I would be involved in several SAARs search and rescue missions.

765
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not a exciting or fulfilling part of my job.

766
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 1>It is an urgent and stressful part of my job.

767
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>When we get these calls, a mood of hopelessness overtakes

768
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 1>the searchers because it is rare that we find anyone

769
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 1>alive after a night in the freezing flooded timber. The

770
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>ramp where they had launched was north of my refuge.

771
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 1>The hunters had not told anyone where they planned to

772
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 1>hunt that day. According to relatives, they never shared that information.

773
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Often the boys would move once or twice each day,

774
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>so no one could verify where the boys would plan

775
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to hunt, if there even was a plan. But my

776
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>guess was that they had traveled south in this direction,

777
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>if not directly into the refuge. It would have been

778
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 1>easy to get in with the high water. The refuge

779
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was covered up with ducks and the area was busy

780
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>with boat traffic. I had checked eight hunting parties before

781
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.800
<v Speaker 1>shooting time was over that day. I had a hunch,

782
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>so I drove one hundred yards to the gravel parking

783
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>area and turned my rig around and went back into

784
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 1>the flooded area that I had patrolled that day. On

785
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 1>the way, I radioed the sheriff's dispatcher that I was

786
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in the area and would begin a search of the refuge.

787
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>The years of experience, I guess I knew they were

788
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 1>out there somewhere, dead or alive, and if they were alive,

789
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the sooner someone got to them, the better their chances

790
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 1>penning they had not drowned. I radioed the refuge manager

791
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 1>and told him what I was up to, and gave

792
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.440
<v Speaker 1>him the general area that I would search, which was

793
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>vague because I would be constantly moving. If for some

794
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>reason I didn't show up or radio in that I

795
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 1>had stopped searching, they would know where to start looking

796
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 1>for me. After reaching the furthest point south where I

797
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 1>could not go further with my truck, I backed the

798
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 1>boat into the shallow ditch and began slowly working my

799
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:15.639
<v Speaker 1>way south into bigger water through the flooded timber, hoping

800
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to find the boys shivering in the cold, their motor

801
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 1>not functioning properly. Maybe it was nine fifteen pm, the

802
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:27.039
<v Speaker 1>temperature had dropped a freezing and a light, misty rain

803
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 1>began to fall. I idled slowly for hours until I

804
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 1>had just enough gas to get back to my truck.

805
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I heard over the radio that a search had started

806
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 1>with a dozen boats, State Game and Fish law enforcement,

807
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of civilians friends of the family. The

808
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Coastguard would join the next morning with a helicopter that

809
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 1>was being flown in from Memphis for the search the

810
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 1>next morning. If the boys had not been found, The

811
00:48:56.159 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 1>saar was random. The first night, boats were going where

812
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:03.559
<v Speaker 1>they thought the boys might have hunted that day. The

813
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>next day would be different. More boats would be involved

814
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.599
<v Speaker 1>in the search areas would be a sign, and if

815
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>those boys were in a reasonable travel distance for a

816
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 1>john boat from the boat ramp, someone would find them.

817
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>More than likely the helicopter crew would spot the boat

818
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 1>with two cold men waving at them. I hoped that

819
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>would be the case. I worked my way back to

820
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 1>the truck through a different part of the refuge, an

821
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>area much thicker would brush than where most hunters went.

822
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't move as slow as I was going south,

823
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 1>but I kept my light shining all around me. I

824
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>wished I had seen them when the bow ran up

825
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>on the bank next to my trailer, but again I

826
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 1>knew they could have been anywhere. After letting my supervisor

827
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>know that I was calling it a night and reporting

828
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.199
<v Speaker 1>to him the area that I had covered, I loaded

829
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 1>my boat and I left. It was two thirty a m.

830
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 1>At six am, later than normal, and I showered and dressed,

831
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and then called in to get an update. Several groups

832
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>had searched all night and came up empty. The searcher

833
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 1>was growing and spreading out, and the more people were

834
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.920
<v Speaker 1>showing up to volunteer in search where they were needed.

835
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I called the sheriff in the county north of US

836
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and asked if I was needed. He didn't think so,

837
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>but since I was going to be patrolling the refuge anyway,

838
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 1>he wanted me to keep my eye out. Well, no kidding,

839
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I thought. I stopped at the gas station and filled

840
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 1>my gas tanks I put in at the busiest ramp

841
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:41.280
<v Speaker 1>on the refuge. There I checked a party of hunters

842
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.519
<v Speaker 1>who were getting a late start. After that, I headed

843
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 1>south to my refuge, following the main channel. On each

844
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 1>side of me as I travel were the lazy hunters

845
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 1>who set up close to the channel. I could see

846
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.199
<v Speaker 1>their decoy spreads and the blinds they had thrown up

847
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and claimed with each stop. I pulled close and asked

848
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 1>the hunters to look out for the missing boys. The

849
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 1>water was high and a man could just about go

850
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 1>anywhere in the refuge with a boat. I broke from

851
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.119
<v Speaker 1>the channel and followed a ditch until it opened up

852
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.320
<v Speaker 1>into a natural lake, and I trimmed the motor and

853
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 1>I laid the boat flat on the water and headed

854
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>at full throttle to the other end, where there were

855
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>openings in the timber that hunters liked to use. It

856
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 1>took some work to get to these places, and that

857
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is why I thought the two men may have gone

858
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 1>into the area to get away from the crowd. I

859
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 1>knew where the shooting holes were, and I headed to

860
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the closest one. A boat with a pullover blind sat

861
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>back in a patch of buck brush. I approached the boat,

862
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.679
<v Speaker 1>and three heads poked above the blind. Hey, mister game warden,

863
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I heard a voice say, as you luck, Ben, I asked,

864
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>we have a few in the boat here. You want

865
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 1>to look at them now? Not today. There's some fellows

866
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that put in north of here, yesterday. That didn't show

867
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.320
<v Speaker 1>up last night at the rain. There's a big search

868
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 1>going on. Have you seen anything or anyone back in here? Yeah,

869
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:08.679
<v Speaker 1>we heard about that. They said, you think they could

870
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 1>be this far away from where they put in maybe?

871
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, have you seen or heard anything? Uh? There

872
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was some shooting back in the woods yesterday. Two of

873
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 1>the men pointed to a place deeper in the timber.

874
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>They were tearing the ducks up. It sounded like we

875
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.639
<v Speaker 1>left right at dark. We never saw them come out.

876
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>They could have come in another way, but who knows.

877
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know any other way to get in here. Well,

878
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I doubt that helps you. Oh it helps, I said,

879
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 1>keep your eyes open and give them a hand if

880
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you see them. There're two college kids. Sure will, they said,

881
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and I waved and motored off in my boat. I

882
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 1>headed further into the trees. Unless they were hunting from

883
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the bank, this was the only way into the area.

884
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.920
<v Speaker 1>It was worth taking a look. Thirty minutes later I

885
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 1>came to an opening surrounded by cypress trees. I had

886
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>actually fished this lake when I was a kid during

887
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 1>the spring and summer. This was the most beautiful area

888
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:11.679
<v Speaker 1>on the refuge and any chance I got to go

889
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>into the area I went. It was a peaceful place

890
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, and it brought memories to the surface of

891
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>my father and I filling a cooler with fish. Soon

892
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>decoys came into view on the far side, half the

893
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 1>decoys in the open water and the other half up

894
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 1>in the trees. I motored up to them and I

895
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>killed my motor it went in there, I yelled out.

896
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see a boat or any sort of blind

897
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:42.760
<v Speaker 1>just decoys and no hunters. The front that I had

898
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:46.599
<v Speaker 1>experienced last night had moved through. Now it was cold

899
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and clear. The wind was whipping and singing through the

900
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:54.159
<v Speaker 1>cypress and oak limbs. I moved through the decoys into

901
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 1>the trees, looking for whoever it had set this spread up.

902
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.599
<v Speaker 1>The farther I went, the more I again to think.

903
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.039
<v Speaker 1>These hunters had left their spread out so they wouldn't

904
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>have to spend time setting up when they came back

905
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>in the next day. And this was against the rules.

906
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Hunters were to leave the area they hunted just as

907
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:14.639
<v Speaker 1>they had found it at the end of the day.

908
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.400
<v Speaker 1>During that time, hunters were allowed a fixed number of decoys,

909
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and they were to be removed each day. I was

910
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.760
<v Speaker 1>about to circle around and head back out into open

911
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 1>water when I saw the boat. I was one hundred

912
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and fifty yards past the decoys and fifty yards from

913
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 1>dry land, and the boat appeared to be on the bank.

914
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Something was off about the scene. Though the boat was

915
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 1>bent in half, it was almost doubled over. I pulled

916
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 1>up to the bank and walked to what was left

917
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 1>of the boat, which still sat in a foot of water.

918
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I backed away and raised my radio to call my boss,

919
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>but he didn't respond. I walked closer to make sure

920
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 1>I was seeing what I thought I was seeing, and

921
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I raised the radio again and couldn't reached my refuge manager.

922
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I switched to the channel of the Sheriff's office and

923
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I got their dispatcher. I read the boat registration numbers

924
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to the sheriff and he verified that this was the boat.

925
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>He knew where I was, but it would take two

926
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe three hours to get someone out there, and could

927
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I stay with the boat. Well, of course I could

928
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>stay with the boat, I told him. I walked back

929
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to my boat and sat on the bow. I wasn't tired,

930
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>but in another way I was exhausted. Maybe I just

931
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 1>needed to prepare my mind for what I would see

932
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 1>when I walked back to the boat. It just didn't

933
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>seem real to me at that point. To be honest,

934
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting to find these boys drowned in the

935
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:48.199
<v Speaker 1>water somewhere. Federal game wardens are trained as well, if

936
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 1>not more so, on law enforcement tactics, rules, and crime

937
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>scene procedures. We get the same training that the ATF

938
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>DEAFBI agents get. We know how to handle and conduct

939
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 1>ourselves on a crime scene. In my boat, I carried

940
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a rucksack with several items that I need to do

941
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 1>my job, crime scene tools, a change of clothes, amos, etc.

942
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>This was an age before digital cameras, and I kept

943
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a disposable Kodak camera in my bag. The camera had

944
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty four exposures and I burned up every one of

945
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 1>them on the scene. I never got close enough to

946
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:31.639
<v Speaker 1>disturb anything around the boat, but I took pictures from

947
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:36.119
<v Speaker 1>every angle and I got images of giant tracks that

948
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be everywhere. I placed the disposable camera back

949
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 1>into my rucksack and I waited, somewhat aware of my

950
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.679
<v Speaker 1>surroundings in case there was an aggressive animal still in

951
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:52.599
<v Speaker 1>the area, maybe even protecting its kill, and somewhat still

952
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.760
<v Speaker 1>in a bit of shock at what I had found.

953
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I assumed it was an animal,

954
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 1>but those tracks led me to believe that something had

955
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 1>attacked these boys. I sat on the front of the

956
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.800
<v Speaker 1>boat for a few more minutes, getting my bearings and

957
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.800
<v Speaker 1>clearing my head. There wasn't much for me to do

958
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point, and I should have stayed put and

959
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 1>waited for whoever was coming. But I can never sit

960
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:20.000
<v Speaker 1>still now. I'm glad that no one was around. It

961
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>allowed me to take in the scene and try to

962
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:26.440
<v Speaker 1>imagine what had happened here. It was almost peaceful had

963
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I not been conscious that something had killed these men

964
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.679
<v Speaker 1>in the last few hours, and it could have still

965
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:38.199
<v Speaker 1>been close. Still, I'm assuming it's an animal. I knew

966
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that from the tracks around the boat and the tracks

967
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that I can make out heading up the bank into

968
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the trees. I looked for drag marks, like something had

969
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 1>dragged the two bodies through the mud, but there was

970
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>nothing but a single set of deep, barefoot tracks. They

971
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:56.559
<v Speaker 1>were huge tracks. I knew what it was, but I

972
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>would not allow my mind to accept it. There had

973
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:03.079
<v Speaker 1>to be an explanation other than what I was thinking.

974
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 1>But to prove all this, I had to find the bodies,

975
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 1>and I hoped, like hell I would find the boys alive.

976
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I carried a Rugrimny fourteen ranch rifle in the boat.

977
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I took it out of its cover. With the rifle

978
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.719
<v Speaker 1>in my side arm, I walked into the trees and

979
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>felt confident that if whatever this was came at me,

980
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I would have enough firepower to stop it. There was

981
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.599
<v Speaker 1>an open lane through the trees twenty five feet up

982
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the bank that ran parallel with the tracks that led

983
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>into the tall stand of trees and brush. My tracks

984
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:41.679
<v Speaker 1>would not disturb the path of the alleged killer. I

985
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>entered the tree slowly, looking for anything that moved or jumped.

986
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>A few steps later, I made a three hundred and

987
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty degree survey of everything. I could no longer see

988
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the water. The trees opened into a clear stand and

989
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I could see one hundred yards in every direction. I

990
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.639
<v Speaker 1>made a course, changed and walked toward where I thought

991
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the tracks from the wrecked boat would intersect my path.

992
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 1>I heard a helicopter approaching, and I stopped and looked up,

993
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:14.159
<v Speaker 1>waiting for it to peer somewhere over me. I remember

994
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.480
<v Speaker 1>looking into the sun, and it's the last thing I

995
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 1>remember about that day. A woman in a uniform handed

996
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a cup of coffee to me. She was talking to me,

997
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, telling me that I could find sugar and

998
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff from my coffee just around the corner.

999
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Things were not hazy or foggy. In my mind, I

1000
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.239
<v Speaker 1>knew where I was, but I had no recollection of

1001
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:43.719
<v Speaker 1>how I got there. I kept my composure while wanting

1002
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.639
<v Speaker 1>to ask how the hell did I get here? Where's

1003
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 1>the team that was on its way to the scene.

1004
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Had I passed out? I looked down at my boots

1005
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and they were clean or not as muddy as I

1006
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 1>had gotten them in the woods, and I had on

1007
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:02.880
<v Speaker 1>my second pair of boots was clean. Apparently I had changed.

1008
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:07.079
<v Speaker 1>None of this seemed right. I kept my mouth shut

1009
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and acted normal, like I knew exactly where I was

1010
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and why I was there. The Sheriff's office was just

1011
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 1>down the hall, and I could see him sitting at

1012
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 1>his desk talking on the phone. I walked to the

1013
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 1>door and got there when he was ending his call.

1014
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 1>You have everything you need from me, I asked, I

1015
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:28.960
<v Speaker 1>thought you left. He said, yeah, I don't need anything

1016
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 1>else from you. Dan sent over your report. It's the

1017
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.679
<v Speaker 1>hell the thing, isn't it. I left the building and

1018
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>found my truck. My keys were in the pocket where

1019
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I always dropped them at home. My report lay in

1020
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.639
<v Speaker 1>the middle of my desk. I checked the fax machine

1021
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:49.400
<v Speaker 1>log and I had sent a fax that morning to

1022
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:53.079
<v Speaker 1>my supervisor. I had been on the water that morning

1023
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 1>looking for missing duck hunters. I looked at my watch

1024
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:01.679
<v Speaker 1>and it was the next day, December twenty eighth. I

1025
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.079
<v Speaker 1>walked outside and my boat was where I kept it.

1026
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:06.360
<v Speaker 1>And then I turned back to my truck in the

1027
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:09.400
<v Speaker 1>driveway and opened the door, and my rucksack and my

1028
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.239
<v Speaker 1>rifle were neatly laid on the passenger floorboard, exactly where

1029
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I kept them. It's like I had come home after

1030
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 1>finding the damaged boat and gone through my regular routine.

1031
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 1>My wet, muddy boots were under the car port, and

1032
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.039
<v Speaker 1>dirty clothes were in the hamper. I even pulled the

1033
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:29.320
<v Speaker 1>towel from the hamper and found that it was still

1034
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:32.199
<v Speaker 1>damp for me drying off from a shower that morning.

1035
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Everything in the house was like it was supposed to be,

1036
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 1>just as normal as ever. There was plenty of daylight left,

1037
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.639
<v Speaker 1>and the weather was good. I headed to the refuge,

1038
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and soon I was on the water and at the

1039
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 1>place where I found the boat. The boat was not there,

1040
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:53.039
<v Speaker 1>neither were the decoys I had seen that the boys

1041
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:56.320
<v Speaker 1>had been hunting over on the bank. There were no

1042
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:59.880
<v Speaker 1>tracks other than human boot tracks. Looked like I heard

1043
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people had been walking up and down that pathway. Well.

1044
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I followed those tracks and they ended where I think

1045
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:10.079
<v Speaker 1>my memory of the day before ended. From there, I

1046
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.920
<v Speaker 1>followed my own tracks that ran parallel with the water,

1047
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I turned back toward the water until I

1048
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.159
<v Speaker 1>arrived at the bank again, water slapping the transom of

1049
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 1>my boat. I stared at it, tilting with each riple,

1050
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what was going on. On my

1051
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:28.400
<v Speaker 1>way back across the lake, I ran into a search

1052
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.599
<v Speaker 1>team with the Coastguard. They talked about the search and

1053
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:35.159
<v Speaker 1>that had been focused now on my refuge, which made sense.

1054
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>We had found their boat here, there was no reason

1055
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:42.599
<v Speaker 1>to search other areas, but no college boys or bodies

1056
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:46.880
<v Speaker 1>of college boys had been found. Later that evening, at

1057
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:49.239
<v Speaker 1>my desk, I read the report that I had signed.

1058
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.320
<v Speaker 1>It was not what I had seen when I discovered

1059
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that boat. There were no mention of animal tracks around

1060
01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the boat. My description of the boat was that the

1061
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.360
<v Speaker 1>boys have hit something while moving fast to do that

1062
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:06.760
<v Speaker 1>much damage. A week later, of visit to the yard

1063
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 1>where the County Sheriff's Department kept impounded vehicles, and I

1064
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.199
<v Speaker 1>looked at the boat the day I found it. It

1065
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.760
<v Speaker 1>looked like a huge weight had been dropped into the

1066
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.519
<v Speaker 1>middle of it, and it had folded in two, almost

1067
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like a folded piece of cardboard. But the boat I saw,

1068
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and I checked the numbers, it was the boat had

1069
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:27.960
<v Speaker 1>been folded back. For lack of a better way to

1070
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.599
<v Speaker 1>describe it, there was a lot of damage, but it

1071
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 1>was flat and it still looked like a boat. Nevertheless,

1072
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I had no doubt that this report was mine. I

1073
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:39.960
<v Speaker 1>knew that from the way I write, and there was

1074
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 1>no doubt it was my signature. After a week, there

1075
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was no reason to dedicate state and federal resources on

1076
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:50.199
<v Speaker 1>a search that everyone knew would not turn up anything.

1077
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Two shotguns had been dragged from the bottom of the

1078
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:56.039
<v Speaker 1>lake close to where the boat was found, but they

1079
01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:58.639
<v Speaker 1>were in such bad shape that it was determined the

1080
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.800
<v Speaker 1>guns had not belonged to the missing boys and had

1081
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:06.079
<v Speaker 1>been in the water for probably years. Maybe lost overboard

1082
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>by careless hunters. It was into July when I finally

1083
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.920
<v Speaker 1>stopped looking around the area for those boys while still

1084
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:17.480
<v Speaker 1>doing my regular job, And when the days got longer,

1085
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I would go back into that area and search the

1086
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 1>water some days and walked the dry island on other days.

1087
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:28.239
<v Speaker 1>But I never found anything. By the time it had

1088
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:32.039
<v Speaker 1>been full on summer heat for three months, anything remaining

1089
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 1>would be progressively harder to find. It was a month

1090
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 1>after the incident that I remembered I had a disposable Kodak.

1091
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:43.320
<v Speaker 1>While digging in my bag for something else, I had

1092
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the images developed at a one hour photo shop. While waiting,

1093
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the images were blurred or completely black. Of twenty four exposures,

1094
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:57.400
<v Speaker 1>not a single one turned out. We are decades away

1095
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:01.480
<v Speaker 1>from that strange holiday season. Those kids are still missing.

1096
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.039
<v Speaker 1>If they died in my refuge, and what I mean

1097
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:08.280
<v Speaker 1>is if they drowned or died of hypothermia, either I

1098
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>or someone would have found them. I think I lost

1099
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:16.719
<v Speaker 1>almost twenty four hours of my memory. I still don't

1100
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:20.719
<v Speaker 1>know anything of my activities during that time. I must

1101
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:24.000
<v Speaker 1>have driven myself home. It's obvious that I wrote the

1102
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 1>report that I showered that I changed clothes and even

1103
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:31.480
<v Speaker 1>slept in my bed. I never changed my report or

1104
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.360
<v Speaker 1>even told anyone about the twenty four hours that I

1105
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 1>cannot remember, other than one wildlife officer that was years

1106
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.000
<v Speaker 1>later after a few beers. He is an officer I've

1107
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:46.679
<v Speaker 1>known for thirty years and we work federal refuges in

1108
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the same region. Now, these are lowland delta areas that

1109
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 1>are forgotten by the quote missing persons experts. They like

1110
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to report on the popular stories and popular areas of wilderness.

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01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.280
<v Speaker 1>The lost time event has never happened to me since

1112
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:06.360
<v Speaker 1>those early days of my career. But between the two

1113
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.079
<v Speaker 1>of us, we have stories to tell you that have

1114
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 1>flown under the radar of the people who investigate missing

1115
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:16.719
<v Speaker 1>persons cases. Thank you for listening this far. I know

1116
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:19.639
<v Speaker 1>this was a long podcast, but I thought every story

1117
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:23.079
<v Speaker 1>in this set was really good. I really hope you

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01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 1>guys enjoyed it and you can look forward to more

1119
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:31.440
<v Speaker 1>frequent stories, more frequent podcasts being uploaded weekly. Back on track,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you hanging with me. Let's see you guys

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01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:41.800
<v Speaker 1>on the next one. Thank you
