WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.160 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:08.880 A couple things going on right now. We're going to 5 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:11.240 dip into try to get to both of them. Eight 6 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:15.039 firefighters with the OC Fire Authorities Santiago Haind crew were 7 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:18.519 in an accident last night, a single vehicle rollover accident. 8 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:21.679 Brian Fantasy with the Orange County Fire Authorities giving an update. 9 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:25.079 As we stand here today, I think we're all still 10 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:33.439 a bit of shock. As I talked with the cruise 11 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:39.000 last night, it was evident that they are. They're in 12 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:42.759 tough shape right now. We pulled them off the fire line. 13 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:46.960 They're going to get time with family, They're going to 14 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:51.000 get time to visit with other firefighters. They're going to 15 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:52.719 get the time they need. I want to thank the 16 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.240 Ventura County and Santa Barbara County fire departments who have 17 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.799 moved their hand crews into Orange County to cover for 18 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:04.200 our hand crews that are not in service at this time. 19 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:10.920 We've got a tough road ahead. Many of the injured 20 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.079 are going to be hospitalized for quite a while. I 21 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:18.200 can't get into those details. I'll introduce the doctor here 22 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:20.439 and he can share what he can share. As you 23 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.959 can imagine, there are limits to what we can say. 24 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:27.040 But having met with, you know, the families last night, 25 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.959 visiting the hospitals, you can imagine the pain that they're 26 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:34.480 in and the pain that all of us are in. 27 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:42.560 This is devastating for me personally, devastating for everybody in 28 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:43.920 the fire service. 29 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:47.879 Here in Orange County. 30 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.799 As I did last night, I'd ask everybody to pray 31 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.439 for our firefighters, Pray for the families. 32 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:00.200 One thing I'll tell you. 33 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.040 That I experienced regularly is the resilience that this organization 34 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:09.000 shows during these times, During these tragic times. 35 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.439 Well, yes we're heartbroken, we're. 36 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:16.840 Devastated, but there's no doubt in my mind that the crews, 37 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:20.639 the firefighters, are professional staff. Everybody involved are going to 38 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.680 rally around each other and we're going to be stronger 39 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:24.280 because of it. 40 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.759 You're listening to Brian Fantasy from the Orange County Fire 41 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:31.280 Authority about last night's accident, and again eight members of 42 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:34.479 the Santiago hand crew belonging to the Orange County Fire 43 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.639 Authority involved in that single rollover accident. You can imagine 44 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:43.319 a large vehicle that was trucking those guys away from 45 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.000 the one of the big fires. Of course it's burning. 46 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.280 They said that they tried to avoid a ladder in 47 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.680 the roadway on the two forty one and eventually rolled 48 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:58.280 that big firefighting apparatus. Eight people injured, one of them 49 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.039 had to be airlifted. Now, the other big news event 50 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:04.639 that's going on right now is that the Acting Secret 51 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.080 Service Director, Ronald Road Junior, is holding a news conference 52 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.039 regarding the assassination attempt from back in July on former 53 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:13.120 President Trump I. 54 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:20.360 Used to create those secure environments outdoor of it is. 55 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:20.960 That kind of thing. 56 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:26.080 So since July thirteenth, we have been securing successfully outdoor events. 57 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.280 And what you're seeing is an increased use of assets, 58 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:33.120 increased use of ballistic glass. So we certainly make sure 59 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:35.280 that when we're when they are out there and an 60 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.719 outdoor venue, that we are using our protective methodologies to 61 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.120 create that safe environment. 62 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.919 A couple of things that Ronald Rowe had said, again 63 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:45.439 he's the acting director of the Secret Service, was when 64 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:50.039 it comes to that July thirteenth assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, 65 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:55.319 that they have changed things. They have organizationally changed the 66 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:59.680 way that they do business when it comes to protecting protectees, 67 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.599 I guess, and that specifically on that July thirteenth day, 68 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:06.560 that Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania, there was a lack of 69 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:10.000 communications issues, whether it was radios or just face to 70 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.639 face communications. There were issues with the drones that were 71 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:17.839 supposed to be in the air over that campaign rally. 72 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.519 And then, and this is probably the most egregious, is 73 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:25.959 a sense of complacency on some of the agents and 74 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:28.959 the other law enforcement groups that were there that led 75 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.399 to that assassination attempt, led to that twenty year old 76 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:35.439 guy getting as close as he did with a rifle 77 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:39.800 on that roof overlooking the rally grounds. There are the 78 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.040 fairgrounds in by Pennsylvania. 79 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:44.839 I like and I applaud that this is what the 80 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.879 internal review found, I mean, really scathing, and you have 81 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:54.279 to know that that is more powerful maybe than everybody 82 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.279 else pointing their fingers. Now they're pointing their fingers at 83 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.759 themselves and saying this was on us, grewed up and 84 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.839 the accountability is nice. I don't know if you know 85 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:08.000 if the Internal Review Unit is looked down upon, probably 86 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:12.079 it is like in every agency. But still the acknowledgment 87 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:14.959 coming from within that this was an epic failure. Is 88 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:16.120 it goes a long way? 89 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:18.639 Yeah, And it's one of those things that sheds light 90 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:21.839 on or shines a bright light on Kimberly Chetle, the 91 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:24.399 former director, that she was the director at the time 92 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:28.639 that this went down, and how unwilling she was, at 93 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.560 least at the beginning to take responsibility for it when 94 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.920 there were I mean, some of these things that Ronald 95 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.319 Road Junior is talking about right now are obvious things, 96 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.959 and like you said, it's nice to hear that there's 97 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.199 an honesty about it. It's unfortunate because we're talking about 98 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:48.959 protecting the most important people in the world, arguably, and 99 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:55.079 the idea that simple things like human complacency or a 100 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.360 lack of face to face communication, or even a technological 101 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:02.319 issue like a drone over an outdoor rally event like that, 102 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.600 how those types of things, once they crop up, that's 103 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.399 not enough to pull the plug on it. I mean that, 104 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.079 I mean we said that where's the drone? 105 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.360 I mean the little things that a civilian could see 106 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.759 were big errors and gaping holes in security were not 107 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:21.720 addressed by the Secret Service. 108 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:26.959 Yeah, that's that's hard to swallow, but like you said, 109 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.759 it's nice to hear that there's an amount of honesty 110 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.360 on it. Last night, we've been waiting for Shoheo Tani 111 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:35.600 to reach this fifty to fifty level, and last night 112 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.040 in Miami, he started with the fiftieth stolen base of 113 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:40.879 the season right there in the top of the first inning. 114 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.439 Here they go, Ohtani down a third and he is 115 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:48.199 safe at third base. Stolen base number fifty for Otani, 116 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:50.160 and they are standing at long deep. 117 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:53.399 All apart, and that's without even the fiftieth home run 118 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:55.879 yet that didn't come until the sixth inning. 119 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:00.839 He is built from the inside out, just different. This 120 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.600 is a guy who created a goal matrix when he 121 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:08.240 was fifteen years old. Picture a nine box by nine 122 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:12.639 box graph essentially that just has things for him to 123 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:20.360 focus on. Conditioning, flexibility, stamina, relax lose uneasiness, ball control, 124 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:25.240 attachment to victory. Care for my teammates, cool mind and 125 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:29.800 hot heart. I mean, he just he covers every base. 126 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:33.800 And they say that he is just meticulous, that he 127 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:40.600 is completely detail oriented. A detailed goal setting is kind 128 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.879 of like his thing. He drills down on all the 129 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.439 little details that will get him to his goals. 130 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.360 He also doesn't put anyone on a pedestal. 131 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.079 Of course, there was this famous speech prior to facing 132 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.560 the USA in the World Baseball Classic finals, when he 133 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:57.399 gave a speech stop admiring if we put them on 134 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.079 a pedestal, we can't beat them, and Team Japan goes 135 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.160 on to win the World Baseball Class. 136 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.319 I mean, the guy is just like you said, built different. 137 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:09.319 This is top of the sixth last night. 138 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:12.800 He swings HiT's a trying to laft this bow's back. 139 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:19.240 Therela was fifty, the first player in the history of 140 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:23.519 Major League Baseball to have a fifty to fifty season. 141 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:25.600 He is incredible. 142 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.639 Top of seven on a one to two Otani sas 143 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:32.559 one of the air the other way. 144 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:40.000 Fucking goes what if a crime player? 145 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:44.679 And then top of nine. Now listen, this last one 146 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.840 was he was facing a second basement, not a real pitcher. 147 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:52.879 Here's the pitch swaying a drive deep right field. He 148 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:54.000 has done it. 149 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.559 It's the first time Otani in his career has had a. 150 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:02.639 Three home run game. Can you believe this? Ten runs 151 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:04.120 batted in for Altani? 152 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.440 Of course, Tim never there. Joe Davis on the earlier call, 153 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:09.000 it just I means, unbelievable. 154 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.559 Skip Schumacher is the Marlins manager, and I loved what 155 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.080 he had to say postgame when asked why they didn't 156 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.120 walk Otani, and he said, out of respect for the game, 157 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.039 out of respect for the baseball gods. No, that we're 158 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.440 going to come right at him. And I loved that 159 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.480 because that does bother me. It bothers me the little 160 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.960 things as a fan. You know, when pitchers are pulled 161 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.440 when they're pitching a perfect game or a no hitter 162 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.960 or whatever, does it make sense? And it just still 163 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:38.320 pisses me off, you know, And that would have pissed 164 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.039 me off too, a game like that where where they 165 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:44.120 if they tried to walk him. He sat down and 166 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.679 done interviews before Otani has done in Japan with the 167 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.639 Japanese media, you know. And part of the picture for 168 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.919 him is really seeing it before it becomes reality. I mean, 169 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.200 this was a guy who saw himself throwing one hundred 170 00:09:57.200 --> 00:10:00.000 miles per hour when he was fifteen. He says, that's 171 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.600 that's one of the keys. First comes the mind, then 172 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.279 you put in the work. So visualizing it and then 173 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:06.799 putting in the work. I mean, he just has so 174 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.759 much good advice on just daily improvement stuff that every 175 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:14.039 day he experiments with something new in order to improve. 176 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.919 Then he writes down what felt good and what didn't 177 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:18.159 so he'll remember it. 178 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:25.320 Yeah, you had asked, is this the greatest single game 179 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:30.080 performance offensively for a baseball player? And I think it 180 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.600 has to be. The only other reference is another Dodger 181 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:36.600 player back when Sean Green hit four home runs twenty 182 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:38.799 plus years ago, he had the single game record with 183 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:42.240 nineteen total bases. But there's never been I think this 184 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:46.120 was a stat that I saw once the RBI became 185 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.960 an official statistic back in nineteen twenty. Only one major 186 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.600 league player has had, over the course of a career. 187 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:55.360 A career not one game over the course of their 188 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:59.399 career had a single game with ten or more RBIs 189 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.159 and a game with six or more hits, and a 190 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.960 game with five or more extra base hits and a 191 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.240 game with three or more home runs and a game 192 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:10.639 with two plus stolen bases. Nobody had done that in 193 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:16.879 their career until sho Hey Otani did it in one game. 194 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:23.000 Gary and hey, hey, I've got a question. What is 195 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.399 our flashback Friday years in ninety something? 196 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:29.919 Guess who was born in ninety four, who was. 197 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:31.000 Born in ninety four? 198 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.440 Can we just spend eight minutes talking. 199 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:36.480 About oh show, Hey Atani, joey Otani, You're right, how 200 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.320 funny that I just chose now to ask that question. 201 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:44.080 That is a great question. I love it. New report 202 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:48.120 came out, five page summarized report from the US Secret Service. 203 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.799 Some of the key conclusions about that July thirteenth assassination 204 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:57.039 attempt against former President Trump that it was communication breakdowns, 205 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:00.720 among other things. They talked about a cascading and wide 206 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:05.720 ranging failings that preceded that shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania. Both 207 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.840 local and federal law enforcement are held to task for this, 208 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:16.240 including the simple communication breakdowns between Secret Service, the campaign organizers, 209 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.799 rally organizers, and local law enforcement. That we're there to 210 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.759 help help the Secret Service secure that area. 211 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.120 We talked in the last hour about the most surprising 212 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:30.679 new gun owners are US liberals. Kamala Harris talking to 213 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.720 Oprah about being a gun owner last night. I have 214 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:37.639 expressed my desire to have a gun, but I am 215 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.960 not allowed to have one. My buddy Tom gave me 216 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:44.600 a burna gun as a happy medium, a way to 217 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:48.200 protect myself but not making anybody around me nervous, and 218 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.480 I thought it would be interesting to talk to to 219 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:56.639 Berna about the proliferation of these non lethal weapons for protection. 220 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.799 Yeah, Luan Fom is the chief marketing officer for Berna. 221 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:01.360 You can look them up by the way, b y 222 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.960 r NA And let's talk Lwan. Let's talk first about 223 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.799 the genesis of this Where where does this company come from? 224 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:14.720 Why why put together something as a as detailed as 225 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:19.919 non lethal alternatives to what would be traditional firearms. 226 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.720 Hey guys, thanks for having me, and uh, you know 227 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.080 we're we're just so humbled to be invited on. But 228 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:30.519 the whole genesis of Berna, it really was created by 229 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:34.320 a group of gun owners who have the common sense 230 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:37.919 to understand that one bullet can ruin many lives, not 231 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.679 only the person getting shot or hopefully not an innocent bystandard, 232 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.639 but the person doing the shooting. Because if it's tamed 233 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.159 and overuse of force, you know you are going to 234 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.600 face you know, the jail time, potentially jail time you're 235 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:53.919 going to deal you have to deal with courts and 236 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:57.200 from criminal to civil. And if you are incarcerated for 237 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:00.600 an overuse of force, then other lies are and my 238 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:04.000 for my in my instance, my wife, my kids, all 239 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.200 of that. So you know, you got to be very 240 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:12.480 mindful that and understand that not every altercation requires lethal means, 241 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:17.399 and wrapping that firearm is essentially what we identify as 242 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:21.519 the nuclear option. So make sure you exhaust all your 243 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:23.840 options before you have to go to that, because if 244 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.519 you're going to use a sledge hammer for any instance, 245 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.879 you're going to leave a lot of damage in your wake. 246 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.960 And the end result is, especially in the re litigious 247 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:38.240 world we live in, the outcome is they're replicable and 248 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:39.720 it's going to change your life forever. 249 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:46.039 It gives me confidence knowing that I have this weapon 250 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.600 for protection, and I think that when you talk to 251 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.799 people who and more and more I'm hearing Berner. I'm 252 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:54.360 just talking to a friend the other day and have 253 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:56.600 you heard of Berner. I'm like, yes, I have one. 254 00:14:57.480 --> 00:14:59.480 I just think that it's giving people peace of mind 255 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:02.120 with this the world that we are in right now, 256 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.039 and we did it. We were talking about a story 257 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:06.919 in the Wall Street Journal about more and more people 258 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.519 arming themselves the world that we live around. It's like, 259 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.240 what else is going to is going to be thrown 260 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.600 at us? And just having that confidence of knowing you 261 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:15.639 could protect yourself if everything goes to hell. 262 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.440 It just feels good, yes. 263 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.840 And you know we do. We have a lot of 264 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:25.399 customers in California, a lot in southern cal just because 265 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.799 getting a firearm is very restrictive in your state. But 266 00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:33.799 also you know, it's just it's just a big leap 267 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.720 for folks, and our product is not only this was 268 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.440 it not only designed for gun owners to give them options, 269 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:42.360 but those who are adversify arms to have an option 270 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:46.919 that has formidable stopping power, effective range of sixty feet. 271 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.879 One cannister of CO two can fire eighteen rounds and 272 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:55.080 so you have a fighting chance to escape and to 273 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:59.720 de escalate a tense situation if you need to, and 274 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:00.919 you give you a peace of mind. 275 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:03.080 As you mentioned, we're talking with Lawan Fom, who is 276 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.080 a chief marketing officer for the company Berna that produces 277 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.720 less lethal launchers. Is the product that they describe. But 278 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.679 it looks for all intents and purposes. The handgun versions 279 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.559 of them look like small handguns, And I think it's 280 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:21.720 interesting that you point out there's there are sometimes the 281 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:25.120 discussions between gun owners, especially those who have guns. I 282 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:29.039 have a hand I have handguns and the discussion of okay, 283 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.879 in the event that something happened at my home and 284 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:36.120 I did have to discharge a weapon at somebody who 285 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:40.200 is doing evil there, Like you said, there's a lot 286 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.120 to go, there's a lot of after market, there's a 287 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:47.799 lot of after events, things that can still happen. Whereas 288 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.679 in this case, I don't have the background check, I 289 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:55.399 don't have the paperwork that's necessary through the state. It 290 00:16:55.519 --> 00:17:00.000 is less than lethal. So whoever I'm you know, aiming at, 291 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.319 is going to be able to survive this. And it's 292 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:08.079 a it's a I don't know, more comfortable. Would that 293 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:10.559 be appropriate to say it's a more comfortable way to 294 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:11.319 defend yourself. 295 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.599 Absolutely, Now you bring up a very important point. So 296 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.119 the burna you don't need a background check. We can 297 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.440 shift directly to your door. It's legal in all fifty states, 298 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.279 and it's very easy to shoot. There's no there's no 299 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.440 loud recoil as you get with the gun and a 300 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.359 jerking sensation, and you don't need your protection to use it. 301 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.759 But the most important thing which is required by law 302 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:40.119 enforcement is what you know we call the continuum force protocol. 303 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:42.920 If an officer is in a situation where he has 304 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.119 to de escalate or you know, take down an aggressor. 305 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.400 He has to use verbal commands, drop your weapon, deploy 306 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.519 less lethal, and then the lethal. Then if he or 307 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:58.000 she follows that cadence, they're going to say the careers 308 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:01.599 prevent the city from having to write, you know, checks 309 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:05.319 to victims. But for the homeowner, let's just say, you know, 310 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:09.720 there's someone in my house uninvited. They're intruding in the middle. 311 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:09.799 Of the night. 312 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.640 I say, you know, I would say leave my house, 313 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:15.640 deploy less lethal, and it ends up in my case 314 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.359 because I have lethal firearms. If I have to escalate 315 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.519 the lethal and end up taking a life, and I 316 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.400 end up in court, this is what my lawyer is 317 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.440 going to say in my defense, Ladies and gentlemen, the jury. 318 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.279 My client had intruders in his home. He verbally commanded 319 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.680 to lead them to leave. They did not apply. He 320 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:37.119 deployed less lethal uh some defense. He went His intentions 321 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:38.799 were never to take a life. He went out and 322 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:42.880 bought this burn up launcher less lethal launcher to avoid 323 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:48.559 having to escalate to lethal. Unfortunately, these intruders escalated their 324 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.359 attack and he had no choice but to elevate to 325 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:55.160 lethal force to defend himself and his family. And with 326 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:59.640 a you know, argument like that, it's so much stronger 327 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:04.799 than Hey, my client was intoxicate, he happened into your 328 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.279 house on accident. He was just you know, he was 329 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.680 unarmed and New York client decided to play judge, jury 330 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.880 and executioner. And if that is an argument in California, 331 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:17.599 you know you're going to get incarcerated if you even 332 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:22.599 escape the criminal charges. What it lands into civil court 333 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:27.160 where it is not as strict. A third rate ambulance 334 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:31.000 chasing lawyer will remove you of as many accids as 335 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.160 he can because once he does it two dillisons and 336 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.759 realize that, hey, this person has you know, the wherewithal 337 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:40.920 to really provide me a payday. Trust that they're going 338 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:42.640 to go after you with full force. 339 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.880 Yeah. Again, you can check out all of the products 340 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:51.480 burn a b y r NA dot com. Luwan fam again, 341 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:54.599 the chief marketing officer, thanks for that. We appreciate that 342 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.160 like this, This option, I think is going to be 343 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:57.640 good for some. 344 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:01.119 People, not to mention for nervous hikers as well. My 345 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:04.119 brother is known to take a firearm with him when 346 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.079 he goes into the mountains, and this is a better alternative. 347 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.759 I would say one last thing in parting the difference 348 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:14.559 in legal from a perspective, you're a firearms owner and 349 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.519 you pulled that weapon, you have to prove to the 350 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:20.480 police that there was imminent threat, like someone's going to 351 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:23.119 take your life with the burner said, that's a less 352 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:26.799 lethal product. You just have to prove threat. So Gary, 353 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.000 we were outside and you were waving your arms at 354 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.839 me and yelling at me, I could pull out my burner, 355 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:36.720 laudger and empty my magazine on you because I'm responding 356 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.319 to a less legal threat with a less legal response, which, 357 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:43.279 by the way, according to the FBI, ninety percent of 358 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:46.319 all altercations do not require lethal force. 359 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:51.839 And I would defend him by firing back at you. 360 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:56.440 Garry's the bad guy in this scenario. 361 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.079 Again, thank you for your time today. We appreciate it. 362 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:01.519 Thanks. Yes, they safe out there everyone. 363 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.039 Kevin Wang was a senior at Canyon Crest Academy down 364 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:07.440 near San Diego, and he remembered something that bothered him 365 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.200 back when he was a business officer for the robotics team. 366 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:13.759 There's a nonprofit foundation for the school. The main fundraising 367 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:18.279 arm called the Canyon Crest Academy Foundation, and he said 368 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:20.640 that it was taken a bunch of money from his 369 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:24.279 robotics team. The foundation kept twenty five percent of every 370 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.440 donation that it collected on behalf of the team, and 371 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:29.559 it did that for other student clubs too, and controlled 372 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.000 the accounts of some of these school sponsored clubs like 373 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:34.680 the robotics team, and at the end of every fiscal year, 374 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:37.440 it would take somewhere between twenty eight and thirty four 375 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.240 percent of the team's actual revenue. 376 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:44.920 So he realizes he still has access to the robotics 377 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.279 team's financial spread sheets and he starts digging around. Another senior, 378 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:52.839 a classmate helps him out joins the investigation. So they 379 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.440 come through public records including Forms nine to ninety annual 380 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.240 audited financial Statements, website by laws as well is the 381 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:04.920 robotic team's financial spreadsheets. They interviewed students and coaches at 382 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:07.880 other schools in the district as well, and they have 383 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.880 now published a fifteen page report on a website they 384 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.119 titled Ravens for Transparency. 385 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:19.119 Yeah, and among other things, they found the Canyoncast Canyon 386 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:24.000 Crest Academy Foundation charges significantly higher fees for their student 387 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:26.759 clubs from I should say, their student clubs than any 388 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:30.960 other organization in the in the San Dieguito School district. 389 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:35.079 By their calculations, that foundation had taken one hundred and 390 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:39.200 fifty thousand of two hundred and forty two thousand in 391 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:42.599 donation and grant revenue that was meant for the robotics 392 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:43.960 team over six years. 393 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:46.319 Yeah, so where does it go? Well, that's a great question, 394 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:48.839 and they asked it. They found more than six hundred 395 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.880 and seventy four thousand dollars of the foundation's expenses, a 396 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:57.960 third of its spending was categorized as something called other 397 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:03.640 program hmmm, and they had to figure out exactly what 398 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.079 that money was going to, what the donations to the 399 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:07.440 nonprofit were going to. 400 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:08.359 Uh. 401 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:13.119