Speaker 1: Hey, what's up all you wonderfully wicked people.
Speaker 2: I'm Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked and Grim,
Speaker 2: a true crime podcast.
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Speaker 1: open this episode, cheers the clink. We have Margarita's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a party to not we are.
Speaker 1: It's Monday and we're just drinking Margarita's. That's it. There's
Speaker 1: no story to go along with it.
Speaker 2: But they probably don't know that we're actually like obsessed
Speaker 2: with Margarita's.
Speaker 1: Margarita's are the ship.
Speaker 2: They're freaking delicious.
Speaker 1: The only beverage better than Margarita is chocolate.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I like, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 1: Chocolate milk? That's it. That's the only one that can
Speaker 1: be to Margarita.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think i'd if I had to
Speaker 2: choose between the two, I would choose Margarita.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when we're in Vancouver, we'll have to make
Speaker 1: sure that we like, go get a lot of Margaritas,
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure I mix like the best margarita ever.
Speaker 1: So let's see if someone can compete with my margarita, just.
Speaker 2: Saying your margarita is a pretty dang good.
Speaker 1: If you guys want a margarita recipe, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you right now. Minute made limemad a whole can of
Speaker 1: that bunch of ice, tequila triple sec and a little
Speaker 1: bit of water just to kind of make it so
Speaker 1: it's not like too like slushy and boom, and you
Speaker 1: got like the best margarita in the world.
Speaker 2: Just saying it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't actually love the rim salted though I could
Speaker 2: pass on that shit. I do.
Speaker 1: It hits me right once in a while, but not
Speaker 1: not all the time. Some people actually sugar the rim.
Speaker 2: Do you know that I would like that better?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. I generally drink it out of a straw though,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter. I usually just sult it because
Speaker 1: it makes it look pretty. Yeah, with your little line,
Speaker 1: I want to look fancy a pinky to take a.
Speaker 2: Picture your brig and marguerite compared to mine. Mine just
Speaker 2: a missed jar like I gave two ships.
Speaker 1: Mine's actually in a marguerita glass, salt lime every Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just like, just give me the bows.
Speaker 1: Yep, you're excited for a Vancouver trip though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, I'm just like watching her dog and wondering
Speaker 2: if I should go help her.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's fine, Okay, she's just aimlessly wandering. She's going
Speaker 1: back upstairs screw these guys. Yeah okay, but yeah, this
Speaker 1: means next episode is going to be the lady in red.
Speaker 2: On location, which is so cool.
Speaker 1: Maybe she'll visit us.
Speaker 2: She better not.
Speaker 1: I kind of hope she does.
Speaker 2: You do, hope she does. But honestly, I would be
Speaker 2: able to deal with that shit better than you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I will scream like a little bitch.
Speaker 2: I think it would traumatize you more than Actually.
Speaker 1: I want her to come so I can have the
Speaker 1: experience and then tell people I handled it like a
Speaker 1: manly man when in reality I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I would know the truth. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't lie for you.
Speaker 1: Sorry. I mean I would cower from a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm one of the kind of guys I would
Speaker 1: stand up for some things, but when it comes to
Speaker 1: like paranormal activity, I cower.
Speaker 2: I think seeing a ghost would be really freaky. But
Speaker 2: the main reason I'm excited for Vancouver I feel like
Speaker 2: you're excited because you're staying at the Paramount doing this podcast.
Speaker 2: But it's just see your tiny homework.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is done, it's pretty much done well by the
Speaker 1: time we done.
Speaker 2: By the time we get there, it will be built
Speaker 2: on which is like a few weeks a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ahead of schedule, which is like what, So we'll make.
Speaker 1: Sure we've logged that and vlog of course the fair
Speaker 1: amount as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll all be I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: So if you want to see some vlogs, some stuff
Speaker 1: on YouTube, we only have one video right now, but
Speaker 1: coming in Vancouver, we're definitely gonna put more out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have the time.
Speaker 1: Hopefully, we're way too busy.
Speaker 2: We'll be on vacation. I'm assuming on vacation you have
Speaker 2: time to do That's true.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: That's my goalingway.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know if I
Speaker 1: would have the same amount of time that the person
Speaker 1: in this case has though, because this person dedicated a
Speaker 1: lot of time.
Speaker 2: To watching Well, I know, I just saw your Instagram posts.
Speaker 2: I'm not like overly excited about this ship.
Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to change the tone a little bit
Speaker 1: because the last two cases were pretty heavy hitting.
Speaker 2: They were really heavy, so the amount of messages I
Speaker 2: would get be like I hate you guys, I know right.
Speaker 1: Well, we even had a few people who are like
Speaker 1: diehard listeners were like, yeah, I made.
Speaker 2: It this one. That one, well it was mostly okay.
Speaker 2: I feel like mine was like pretty intense, but we
Speaker 2: still like kept it at a like pretty light hearted level.
Speaker 2: But yours it just could not be kept at the
Speaker 2: lighthearted level.
Speaker 1: Well, it dumbfounded shocked both.
Speaker 2: Of us so well, and I know I was just
Speaker 2: like I didn't know what to say because it was
Speaker 2: like holy shit.
Speaker 1: Anyways, though this case is as creepy as hell, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but it's no one dies, no one's
Speaker 1: torture die, no one's raped. So it's it's creepy, but
Speaker 1: that's about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, it can't be that bad. No one died.
Speaker 1: This one is known as the Watcher. The Watcher, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a whole stalking episode.
Speaker 2: If okay, that's a bit creepy.
Speaker 1: If you can want to say it's stocking, I don't
Speaker 1: know you we'll get into it. You'll see, make your
Speaker 1: own judgment call if you want to call it stocking
Speaker 1: or not. Okay, see you ready for this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just took a swig of on margarita. I'm
Speaker 2: good to go.
Speaker 1: I need to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: That was me making side effects. Okay, that's a big.
Speaker 1: Swigs down half my margarita.
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna have this is our drunk from the drunk.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're like five minutes in the intro. Let's let's
Speaker 1: get on with this.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay. So in June of twenty fourteen, this is this
Speaker 1: is fairly recent case, not even ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: I like that Derek and Maria broad Us had closed
Speaker 1: the deal to purchase a six bedroom house at six
Speaker 1: five seven Boulevard, Westfield, New Jersey. Okay, Westfields. It's it's
Speaker 1: a welcoming place. It's like, you know, a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 1: It's a place where neighbors might like actually introduce themselves,
Speaker 1: meet you with warm greeting and welcome you to the
Speaker 1: neighborhood sort of thing. You know. It maybe even bring
Speaker 1: you a couple cookies on.
Speaker 2: A platter or something like a pie or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ki wants some attention. If you're heard hear me?
Speaker 1: How Kiwi's like in our face, all our all of
Speaker 1: our animals.
Speaker 2: I know, I almost want to be like, just go
Speaker 2: somewhere else in the tiny home.
Speaker 1: We can kick them out of the house maybe, or
Speaker 1: it'll just be it will be worse. Okay, welcome to
Speaker 1: Waken and groom. We have animals. We love them, We
Speaker 1: love you guys. Deal with it, okay. Anyways, so they're
Speaker 1: moving into this new house. It's a dream house, amazing neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, it only sounds promising.
Speaker 1: It's only forty five minutes from New York. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: a bit too like slow lifestyle for like most singles
Speaker 1: and stuff, which means the town's thirty thousand residents are
Speaker 1: largely like well off families because the're fairly nice houses.
Speaker 2: It's to be like a little ways out of a
Speaker 2: big city like that.
Speaker 1: I think that's perfect. Definitely, definitely. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a sitcoms, like perfect neighborhood sort of thing. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So the Broadesses purchased the house for one point three
Speaker 1: million dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Well, it was one three hundred and fifty five one million,
Speaker 1: three hundred fift five thousand, six hundred and fifty seven,
Speaker 1: which is an oddly specific number in my opinion, but whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but house prices are like kind of weird sometimes
Speaker 2: how that.
Speaker 1: Worked either way, they were overjoyed. This was literally their
Speaker 1: dream home. Okay, it was in a familiar neighborhood, as
Speaker 1: Maria grew up in the in the sorry Margerie's are
Speaker 1: hitting me. She grew up in the neighborhood in a
Speaker 1: home only a few blocks away.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1: And for her husband, Derek, it was like the perfect
Speaker 1: place for him to raise his family with his wife's
Speaker 1: sort of thing. They had three kids. It was just
Speaker 1: everything about it's perfect. And it was perfect to the
Speaker 1: point that the kids were even planning which fireplace sent
Speaker 1: was going to come down during.
Speaker 2: Christmas and the wan fireplace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they hadn't even moved in yet. And this
Speaker 1: is what the kids are talking about.
Speaker 2: This sounds too perfect.
Speaker 1: I'm already literally picture perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's perfect.
Speaker 1: So three days after they purchased their new home, Derek
Speaker 1: was inside doing some renovations. They hadn't moved in yet, Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's inside painting, getting ready for the move. And
Speaker 1: Derek kind of finished up and he went outside to
Speaker 1: check the mail, and inside he found some letters. You know,
Speaker 1: of course it's mail. Yeah, but one letter specifically was
Speaker 1: addressed to quote unquote the new owners in chunky letters. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give not a warning, but a heads up
Speaker 1: to everyone listening. The letters have never actually been fully
Speaker 1: published to the public, so we don't fully know what
Speaker 1: the letters have said.
Speaker 2: I wonder why that is.
Speaker 1: It's they just kept him private. And some sections of
Speaker 1: the letters have come through via court cases. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so I've pieced together the letters the best I can.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some missing, but here we go. Inside
Speaker 1: the envelope was a type note that began with a
Speaker 1: warm greeting, dearest neighbors of six five seven Boulevard, allow
Speaker 1: me to welcome you to the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: That's nice.
Speaker 1: How did you end up here? Did six five seven
Speaker 1: Boulevard call to you with its force? Within? Six five
Speaker 1: seven Boulevard has been the subject of my family for
Speaker 1: decades now, and as it approaches its one hundred and
Speaker 1: tenth birthday, it has been put in charge, sorry, I
Speaker 1: have been put in charge of watching and waiting for
Speaker 1: its second coming. My grandfather watched the house in the
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, my father watched in the nineteen sixties, and
Speaker 1: now it's my time. Do you know the history of
Speaker 1: the house? Do you know what lies within the walls
Speaker 1: of six five seven Boulevard? Why are you here? I
Speaker 1: will find out? Creepy as fuck? Yeah, No, creepy as fuck.
Speaker 2: Okay, that has to be like a There has to
Speaker 2: be some sort of way for them to get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of that new purchase.
Speaker 1: No, they bought it, it's theirs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, if shit wasn't disclosed of this weird history,
Speaker 2: you have a house, you're lawyer or you're not your
Speaker 2: real turn. Shit can be at fault, can't they.
Speaker 1: We go about my mic, we get into a bit
Speaker 1: of the history on that. So that's that's to come
Speaker 1: up here. Now, however, that's not the end letter. That's
Speaker 1: only like one third of it. So to continue on,
Speaker 1: I see already that you have flooded six five seven
Speaker 1: Boulevard with contractors, so you can destroy the house as
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be. Tusk tisk tisk.
Speaker 2: Wow the judgment there, bad move.
Speaker 1: You don't want to you don't want to make six
Speaker 1: five seven boulevard. Unhappy you have children? I have seen
Speaker 1: them so far. I think there are three that have
Speaker 1: that I have counted. Are there more on the way?
Speaker 1: I have asked the woods to bring me young blood,
Speaker 1: and it looks like they listened. Do you need to
Speaker 1: fill the house with young blood as I requested? Better
Speaker 1: for me? Was your old old house too small for
Speaker 1: the growing family? Bless you? First way to go? You
Speaker 1: just ruined the ambiance? Good, It's all good? Okay? Where
Speaker 1: was I? Was your old house too small for the
Speaker 1: growing family? Or was it greed? Or was it greed?
Speaker 1: To bring me your children? Once I know their names,
Speaker 1: I will call to them and draw them to me. Oh,
Speaker 1: last little bit of letter? Ready for this?
Speaker 2: No, I already hate the letter.
Speaker 1: Oh it's weird. I would be like one weird thing is?
Speaker 1: It's like so formal and well written, not necessarily well written,
Speaker 1: but very formal and like almost old English and very.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did, actually it was like kind of old fashioned.
Speaker 1: Who am I? There are hundreds and hundreds of cars
Speaker 1: that drive by six fifty seven Boulevard each day? Maybe
Speaker 1: I am in one. Look at all the windows you
Speaker 1: can see from six five seven Boulevard. Maybe I am
Speaker 1: in one look out any of the many windows in
Speaker 1: six five seven Boulevard, Boulevard, at all the people who
Speaker 1: stroll by each day. Maybe I am one have a
Speaker 1: happy moving in day. You know I will be watching Wow, Welcome,
Speaker 1: Let the party begin, signed at the end in a
Speaker 1: cursive typed font, not hand signed the watcher.
Speaker 2: The watcher. Okay, I would honestly feel like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: you'd be only Cloud nine. You're just mooed into this
Speaker 2: awesome house, like your dream house. I'd probably be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like a prank. Most like I would go
Speaker 2: there and be like, oh, this is so real. I mean,
Speaker 2: i'd probably be a little nervous, but I think I
Speaker 2: would more so just like think it's a prank.
Speaker 1: But there are still some details about that. They've they've
Speaker 1: seen your three kids, which right away, for any parent,
Speaker 1: your kids are most likely going to be your priority
Speaker 1: to protect. Yeah, so that's a big red flag there. Second,
Speaker 1: they the person did know the family prior to because
Speaker 1: he mentioned the Woods, which is the prior family, the
Speaker 1: Woods family, Like.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you mean the family before these?
Speaker 1: Yes, who moved out and sold the house to the
Speaker 1: new family.
Speaker 2: Their last name is okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So he referenced them. So he knows the Woods or
Speaker 1: at least their name, and he knows that these people
Speaker 1: are bringing in contractors and have three kids. So he
Speaker 1: clearly is whether it's a prank. He clearly is watching
Speaker 1: to some degree.
Speaker 2: I guess I want to know why the Woods people moved.
Speaker 2: I hope you're going to go over that. Well, let's
Speaker 2: keep going, Okay, yeah, I am.
Speaker 1: So when Derek read this letter, it was after about
Speaker 1: ten pm, and Derek's wife and the kids were currently
Speaker 1: at their old house elsewhere in Westfield, you know, getting
Speaker 1: ready to move in certain thing. All right, Sorry, it
Speaker 1: wasn't elsewhere in Westfield. They were elsewhere while in Westfield
Speaker 1: he was there. Sorry I wrote that.
Speaker 2: Weird, No, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: So somewhere else. So the watcher was watching, potentially even
Speaker 1: watching Derek read the letter.
Speaker 2: On his front hand. That's kind of creepy.
Speaker 1: So Derek immediately went inside the house, raced around, turning
Speaker 1: off all the lights that no one could see, and
Speaker 1: he called the Westfield police right away.
Speaker 2: Oh so this like really got to him?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: An officer immediately arrived to the house read the letter
Speaker 1: and said, quote unquote, what the fuck is this? Best
Speaker 1: response for a police officer for what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: That's my kind of police officer.
Speaker 2: I love it, just getting down to it. I love it.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: So he asked Derek if he had any enemies, and
Speaker 1: as far as Derek knew, he didn't, which I mean,
Speaker 1: most people don't think they have enemies.
Speaker 2: But who knows, right, Yeah, you never really know, I guess.
Speaker 1: So Derek rushed back to his wife and kids that night,
Speaker 1: and he and his wife Maria wrote an email to
Speaker 1: John and Andrea Woods, the previous owners of.
Speaker 2: The property, and we're like, what the shit?
Speaker 1: Yep, pretty much. Well I don't think they were aggressive
Speaker 1: about it, but they were questioning, right, Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would be. So the previous owners were an older couple
Speaker 1: and it doesn't say why they moved out. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: it's most likely downsizing or.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 1: So they were an older couple who previously owned the
Speaker 1: property before him, and you know, like I said, I
Speaker 1: recently sold. But in an email, they asked the couple
Speaker 1: if they had any idea who the watcher might be
Speaker 1: and why he had written the letter and quote to Derek,
Speaker 1: I had asked the Woods. Sorry, not quote to Derek,
Speaker 1: quote to the Watcher, because specifically in there, I had
Speaker 1: asked the Woods to bring me young blood. And it
Speaker 1: looks like they listened right, oh right, So clearly it
Speaker 1: might tie the Woods. They might have an idea. So
Speaker 1: the next morning they actually received a reply from Andrea Woods,
Speaker 1: and a few days before moving out of the house,
Speaker 1: she said that they had also received a letter from
Speaker 1: the Watcher. She said the note had been odd, and
Speaker 1: she said that there is never any or sorry why
Speaker 1: jumped ahead? Do do do do do do?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: Okay, So she said the note was odd and it
Speaker 1: made similar mention of the Watcher's family observing the house
Speaker 1: over time. But Andrea said her and her husband never
Speaker 1: received anything in the twenty three years of living in
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 2: I think that's bullshit. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: She said that her and her husband, once they received
Speaker 1: it before moving out of the house, just dismissed the
Speaker 1: letter as like you said, a prank and just turfed
Speaker 1: the letter.
Speaker 2: I just feel that's very weird that these people instantly
Speaker 2: move in, instantly get a letter, but then those other
Speaker 2: people are there for twenty three years and one letter.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, so, but it could just be this new
Speaker 1: watcher because he said his father watched it before him,
Speaker 1: his grandfather watched before him. It could just be that
Speaker 1: this watcher who's now taking over the air of watching
Speaker 1: six fifty seven Boulevard is just anxious.
Speaker 2: And I guess or it came like maybe they saw
Speaker 2: Ittless did.
Speaker 1: Maybe or something. Who knows what, why, how, where, everything,
Speaker 1: But this is a situation we are in.
Speaker 2: So cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the woods Is were more happy, more than
Speaker 1: happy to actually help out with Derek and Maria and
Speaker 1: do whatever they needed to talk to police or whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So later that day they went down to the
Speaker 1: police station where Detective Leonard Lugo joined the case and
Speaker 1: listened to what they had to say.
Speaker 2: Good name, pronunciation, thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I tried really hard to tell.
Speaker 2: If someone was watching you right now, they would know
Speaker 2: you were trying.
Speaker 1: Well. The moment I tried to say the name, like
Speaker 1: my posture went up, shoulders back, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: got this, like goose frob a own meditating beforehand, just
Speaker 1: to get it right. Okay. Anyways, so after talking for
Speaker 1: a while about the house and the letters quote unquote
Speaker 1: the watcher. Sorry end quote unquote the watcher. I'm getting
Speaker 1: mixed up today, sorry, guys. So the investigator, Leonard told
Speaker 1: Maria and Derek and the Woods, is not to tell
Speaker 1: anyone about these letters, including any neighbors, to keep it hush, hush,
Speaker 1: quiet under the radar.
Speaker 2: Okay, at first, it's like, what the frig? But that
Speaker 2: makes sense actually, well because.
Speaker 1: As of right now, all of the neighbors were now suspects,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to give away any idea of
Speaker 1: the investigation occurring to a potential watcher, right exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So there was no if nothing was reported, no change
Speaker 1: in any behaviors, there's no reason for any observing habits
Speaker 1: of the watcher to change, potential letters to change. So
Speaker 1: it might give the investigators a heads up to maybe
Speaker 1: catch them in the act.
Speaker 2: Right. I honestly love how like everyone's taking this so seriously,
Speaker 2: which is like the police and everything, because sometimes, like
Speaker 2: even fucked up cases we've been doing, yes, they don't
Speaker 2: take that shit seriously.
Speaker 1: It's very refreshing to hear them actually take something seriously.
Speaker 2: I get not that they don't usually, but just like
Speaker 2: a lot of our really messed up cases, Like there's
Speaker 2: been serious warnings and like people could have been saved
Speaker 2: and they don't. They're not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so right off the bat, they're taking this serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually like really like wow.
Speaker 1: So it's a nice change of pace for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: where am I here? Now?
Speaker 2: I got off my chart?
Speaker 1: You did? Okay? So the Broadest has spent the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks on of course, high alert, and Derek
Speaker 1: canceled a work trip and whenever Maria took the kids
Speaker 1: to the new house, she would make sure the kids
Speaker 1: stayed closed and never wandered into any corners of the yard.
Speaker 1: They took precautions when necessary.
Speaker 2: Such a shitty way to enter into this new chapter
Speaker 2: your life, I know.
Speaker 1: Right, kind of sucks. It gets worse. Wait.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: There was actually one intant incident when Derek was giving
Speaker 1: a tour of the renovations to a couple who lived
Speaker 1: on the block. He froze like instantly when the wife
Speaker 1: of the couple said, quote unquote, it'll be nice to
Speaker 1: have some young blood in the neighborhood. Yeah. That never
Speaker 1: like it. It didn't make out anything like it's it's
Speaker 1: a saying and it's just like, wait, what what'd you
Speaker 1: just fucking say?
Speaker 2: That is funny?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyways, two weeks after the initial letter arrived,
Speaker 1: Maria stopped by the house to look at some paint
Speaker 1: samples and check the mail.
Speaker 2: Woo, don't I would just probably actually avoid checking the mail,
Speaker 2: I know, right, not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: So when she opened the mailbox inside she found another
Speaker 1: letter with the same thick, chunky black lettering on the envelope.
Speaker 1: This time, however, it was addressed to them directly by name, Oh,
Speaker 1: mister and missus Broadus. However, it was misspelled because Broadess
Speaker 1: is b r O A d d us and this
Speaker 1: was spelled b r A d d us.
Speaker 2: So he did his homework, but he didn't do his home.
Speaker 1: Well, he probably heard the name brought.
Speaker 2: Us and what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Heard he's listening that's where exactly where? How?
Speaker 2: Oh God?
Speaker 1: But that that's one thing that could be guessed. He
Speaker 1: might have misspelled it because he never saw it spelled.
Speaker 1: He only heard the name.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't love that actually at all.
Speaker 1: You're not going to love anything about this case.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, okay, if someone's watching you from afar,
Speaker 2: it feels a little bit more Okay, than if they like,
Speaker 2: I can hear what the fuck you're saying in your house?
Speaker 1: Oh just wait until she reads this letter.
Speaker 2: I feel like people wouldn't listen to us very long
Speaker 2: because we're fucked up sometimes. What we're talking about in
Speaker 2: our house.
Speaker 1: And some of the things we do is just really like,
Speaker 1: oh lord, oh he came home margaritas and a monkey ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I literally walk in the door and I didn't
Speaker 2: even question it. Really. I was making a tick like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're living your best life.
Speaker 1: Eh, I was making a TikTok If anyone wants to
Speaker 1: follow me on TikTok official Ben Gibson.
Speaker 2: I do, my gosh. Yeah, never a bull moment here anyways.
Speaker 1: So immediately Maria called the police. So there were some
Speaker 1: things about this letter that I found information, but not
Speaker 1: specific quotes, Like, like I said, we don't have all
Speaker 1: the information on these letters, right. So there's one quote.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it goes within this letter. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to read this quote prior to the letter
Speaker 1: and omit it during the letter, Okay, So just everyone's
Speaker 1: aware of that. So the watcher actually in this letter
Speaker 1: boasted having learned a lot about the family, especially the children.
Speaker 1: The letter identified the Broadesses the three kids by their
Speaker 1: birth order and their names and their nicknames, their personal
Speaker 1: nicknames they are called from their parents in their home.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, shit got real. Yes the letter, now it's
Speaker 2: not a prank anymore if.
Speaker 1: Someone is definitely watching and listening. The letter even asked
Speaker 1: about one child in particular. The watcher had seen them
Speaker 1: using an easel to paint inside an enclosed porch. And
Speaker 1: this is the quote that I'm on from the letter
Speaker 1: where he asks is she the artists in the family?
Speaker 1: He watched her, he saw her. He I didn't find
Speaker 1: the quote on it, but he did mention seeing her
Speaker 1: using the easel gee and then asked is she the
Speaker 1: artist in the family. So this particularly made the Broadestes
Speaker 1: feel uneasy. The porch in question was the front porch,
Speaker 1: and the view from the street was blocked by bushes.
Speaker 1: You can't see from the street.
Speaker 2: View really really really.
Speaker 1: Really meaning the only way the watcher actually could have
Speaker 1: seen was if he was beside the house.
Speaker 2: Oh God, I hope they've set up cameras and shit,
Speaker 2: they definitely do.
Speaker 1: I don't mention it in this podcast because it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of information I would have fucking cameras lining in my hole.
Speaker 1: God, down there, they set up cameras, and then they
Speaker 1: set up more cameras, and then they set up more cameras.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would even have strings around with like
Speaker 2: cans and shit. So if my name someone.
Speaker 1: Was coming up archaic technology, I love it. He's going
Speaker 1: to be watching for cameras. He's not going to watch
Speaker 1: for cancast man. Okay, So I don't have any other
Speaker 1: of that particular information in that quote, But let's get
Speaker 1: into the letter.
Speaker 2: Cat.
Speaker 1: So the letter read, welcome again to your new home
Speaker 1: at six fifty seven Boulevard. The workers have been busy,
Speaker 1: and I have been watching you unload carfuls of your
Speaker 1: personal belongings. The dumpster is a nice touch. Have you
Speaker 1: found what is in the walls yet? In time they will.
Speaker 1: I am pleased to know your names now, and the
Speaker 1: name of the young blood you have brought me. You
Speaker 1: certainly say their names often.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're your children. Yeah, what a weirdo.
Speaker 1: Six point fifty seven Boulevard is anxious for me for
Speaker 1: you to move in. It has been years and years
Speaker 1: since the young blood ruled the halls of the house.
Speaker 1: You have found all the secrets it holds. Yet will
Speaker 1: the young blood play in the basement? Are they too
Speaker 1: afraid to go down there alone? Well, now they are
Speaker 1: just wait till this. I would be very afraid if
Speaker 1: I were them. It is far away from the rest
Speaker 1: of the house. If you were upstairs, you would never
Speaker 1: hear their screams. What Yeah, Okay, I'm going to continue.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get through the rest of this
Speaker 1: letter without you like.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I've cover my mouth.
Speaker 1: Okay, ready, yeah, we gotta get the dramatic floor covering
Speaker 1: my mouth? Go okay? Will they sleep in the attic
Speaker 1: or will you all sleep on the second floor? Who
Speaker 1: has the bedroom facing the street? I'll know as soon
Speaker 1: as you move in. It will help me to know
Speaker 1: who is in which bedroom. Then I can plan better.
Speaker 1: All of the windows and doors and six fifty seven
Speaker 1: Boulevard allow me to watch you and track you as
Speaker 1: you move through the house. Who am I? I am
Speaker 1: the watcher and I have been in control of six
Speaker 1: fifty seven Boulevard for the better part of two decades now.
Speaker 1: The Woods family turned it over to you. It was
Speaker 1: their time to move on and kindly sold it When
Speaker 1: I asked them to I passed by many times a day.
Speaker 1: Six fifty seven Boulevard is my job, my life, my obsession,
Speaker 1: and now you are too brought. And now you are
Speaker 1: too brought his family, Sorry for that. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: product of your greed. Greed is what brought you in
Speaker 1: the past three families to six fifty seven Boulevard, and
Speaker 1: now it has brought you to me. Happy moving in date.
Speaker 1: You know I will be watching.
Speaker 2: What the frig Yeah, that's messed up shit.
Speaker 1: I think this guy has a bit of a complex though,
Speaker 1: because he's like really starting to boast and like push
Speaker 1: himself up.
Speaker 2: I think he's an asshole.
Speaker 1: I think there's some stuff that he's saying that is
Speaker 1: like far beyond like yeah, okay, he's definitely creeping the over.
Speaker 2: He sounds like he's probably a good writer, definitely.
Speaker 1: But he's creeping in on this family. He's hearing some things,
Speaker 1: he's seeing some things. He's definitely getting close. But I
Speaker 1: think he's like starting to like get full of himself
Speaker 1: and just say more than he has power to. Like,
Speaker 1: the Woods sold the house when I told them to.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, that's why I was like, oh, but
Speaker 2: I thought they've only had one letter. Mm hm, but yeah,
Speaker 2: like he's just saying he manifest is that shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm calling fucking total bullshit on that.
Speaker 1: Unless the Watcher is listening to this podcast and he's
Speaker 1: gonna come creep on us, then I am so sorry.
Speaker 1: You're all powerful, all hail the Watcher, fuck.
Speaker 2: Him, Fuck you Watcher. Does that just mean that they
Speaker 2: didn't they even't found this guy? Did you just give
Speaker 2: us a bomb?
Speaker 1: This is a case?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, you and your unsolved shit?
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, done with that. Actually I dropped a hint
Speaker 1: earlier too.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I just got this one. I'm tired and
Speaker 2: I'm drinking margarite.
Speaker 1: Actually earlier I dropped it on purpose. This one, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to drop it.
Speaker 2: There, so that's my bad and I caught it.
Speaker 1: But even still, this is an unsolved case. But it's
Speaker 1: it's just crazy how this goes, so it's worth listening
Speaker 1: in dang so with a new letter clearly showing some
Speaker 1: someone like in fact watching them, right, like someone is watching.
Speaker 2: Like they know some things for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not just it's not just a prank. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything became like a little too real at this point,
Speaker 1: bringing a letter with that information. So Derek and Maria
Speaker 1: decided not to visit the house for a while, not
Speaker 1: move in, and they kept their kids away from whoever
Speaker 1: was watching.
Speaker 2: Dang though, like sometimes you wouldn't have that opportunity. If
Speaker 2: you have your other house has sold, no.
Speaker 1: Right, so huh. So with lack of activity at the house,
Speaker 1: a third letter arrived.
Speaker 2: Oh shitt on, we just jumped up hike, we got
Speaker 2: to go back.
Speaker 1: Okay. So the third letter is a little bit shorter,
Speaker 1: and it goes like this, where have you gone to?
Speaker 1: Six fifty seven Boulevard is missing you. The house is
Speaker 1: crying from all of the pain it is going through.
Speaker 1: You have changed it and made it so fancy. You
Speaker 1: are stealing its history. It cries for the past and
Speaker 1: what it used to be in the time when I
Speaker 1: roamed its halls. The nineteen sixties were a good time
Speaker 1: for six fifty seven Boulevard, when I ran from room
Speaker 1: to room, imagining the life with the rich occupants there.
Speaker 1: The house was full of life and young blood when
Speaker 1: it got old, and so did my father. Sorry, then
Speaker 1: it got old sold my father, but he kept watching
Speaker 1: until the day he died. And now I watch and
Speaker 1: wait for the day the young Blood will be mine again.
Speaker 1: Six point fifty seven Boulevard is turning on me. It
Speaker 1: is coming after me. I don't understand why. What spell
Speaker 1: did you cast on it? It used to be my friend,
Speaker 1: and now it is my enemy. I am in charge
Speaker 1: of six point fifty seven Boulevard. It is not in
Speaker 1: charge of me. I will fend off its bad things
Speaker 1: and wait for it to become good again. I will
Speaker 1: not punish it will not punish me. I will rise again.
Speaker 1: I will be patient and wait for it to pass.
Speaker 1: I messed that sentence up. Sorry, I'm not a reader
Speaker 1: like this. This is weird for me. I will be
Speaker 1: patient and wait for this to pass and for you
Speaker 1: to bring me the young Blood back back to me.
Speaker 1: Six fifty seven Boulevard needs young blood. It needs you
Speaker 1: come back. Let the young Blood play again like I
Speaker 1: once did. Let the young Blood sleep in six fifty
Speaker 1: seven Boulevard. Stop changing it and let it alone.
Speaker 2: Okay. I think there were some tidbits in there though,
Speaker 2: that they could do some serious mo ful research.
Speaker 1: Potentially, yes, dude, potentially.
Speaker 2: Because he was a child living there in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, listen, closely. Okay, he
Speaker 1: did not live there.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh so he was like a friend
Speaker 2: and shit, okay, because you did say something about he
Speaker 2: dream about the like rich people or something.
Speaker 1: I lived there so in the nineteenth the nineteen sixties
Speaker 1: were a good time for six fifty seven Boulevard when
Speaker 1: I ran from room to room imagining the life with
Speaker 1: the rich occupants there.
Speaker 2: Oh so it was just like a friend or.
Speaker 1: Like maybe he wasn't even welcome in the house and
Speaker 1: he just snuck in.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well that's not helpful at all then, So
Speaker 2: it was like, you could research this, let's.
Speaker 1: Do it right. However, there is one little bit of
Speaker 1: information in here that might be key. He said that
Speaker 1: his dad he took over twenty years. He's been watching
Speaker 1: for about twenty years when his father passed away. So
Speaker 1: that might be of importance because now we have a
Speaker 1: timeline for when the previous quote unquote watcher had passed away.
Speaker 1: So that might be a piece of.
Speaker 2: Information, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the letter had literally drove the family though
Speaker 1: to putting all moving plans like on hold and on
Speaker 1: the back brand.
Speaker 2: That's so that just sucks. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: They dropped into this house.
Speaker 1: It definitely is. But luckily though, like you said, a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have that luxury of just going
Speaker 1: back to their old house. Well yeah, honestly neither did
Speaker 1: this family. They actually ended up moving in with Maria's parents.
Speaker 1: While the investigators tried to sing.
Speaker 2: It so, yeah, I feel bad for them. Nightmare it is.
Speaker 1: It really is. And while investigators were looking into seeing
Speaker 1: who this watcher is, the problem was there was like
Speaker 1: so little evidence to go on. In fact, like, other
Speaker 1: than the letters, they had literally nothing to tie anyone
Speaker 1: to anything, and the investigators were just at a straight
Speaker 1: dead end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy seems like he's smart, girl or guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I was assuming it's a dude.
Speaker 1: It could be a watcher, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Could definitely be a female too, So some females are smarter.
Speaker 1: Oh really, you're gonna go there? Just wow, Wow, you're
Speaker 1: just playing to our demograph.
Speaker 2: I know. Actually I felt okay saying that because more
Speaker 2: majority of people listening aren't females.
Speaker 1: Thanks, way to turn the tide.
Speaker 2: You're outnumbered.
Speaker 1: Well I'm in charge of this case, so shut you
Speaker 1: a pieh hole. Anyways, moving on, let's not get this
Speaker 1: sexist attitude in here.
Speaker 2: God, there's a joke.
Speaker 1: Move on, I am moving on.
Speaker 2: Good, let's do it.
Speaker 1: No, now, I don't want to You're like, don't tell
Speaker 1: me what to do. Okay, moving on. Okay, So some
Speaker 1: suspects did turn up, however, Okay, Derek learned about an
Speaker 1: eccentric family who lived next door, the Langfords. The family
Speaker 1: consisted of mother Peggy Langford and several of her adult children,
Speaker 1: who were middle aged, and the family had a long
Speaker 1: history in the area. In fact, they lived in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood house since the sixties, which is when the watcher
Speaker 1: claimed his father watched the house.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Derek began to suspect sixty year old Michael
Speaker 1: Langford shortly after receiving the first letter, But detectives said
Speaker 1: that the Langford family's reputation had already been known, and
Speaker 1: though they were an odd family, they were harmless and
Speaker 1: caused no trouble for anyone. However, even though they kind
Speaker 1: of brushed off the Langfords, they were already a step
Speaker 1: ahead of Derek and already questioned them.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're doing a good.
Speaker 1: Job here, They're doing their due diligence for sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like this. So the detective said that Michael denied
Speaker 1: all knowledge of the letters, and that his speaking manner
Speaker 1: and mental disorders convinced the detectives he was not able
Speaker 1: to write the letters in the same fashion as the watcher. Okay,
Speaker 1: so just like that very proper old English formal sort
Speaker 1: of writing.
Speaker 2: Style come naturally to like a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Probably definitely not so they're convinced it wasn't Michael Langford.
Speaker 1: But I do want to point out and Derek is
Speaker 1: still to this day, convinced that it was Michael Langford.
Speaker 2: Really Okay, but he could have been putting an act
Speaker 2: on too when he was talking to the police.
Speaker 1: Definitely, But Michael's father is dead, okay, mister Langford, Peggy's husband,
Speaker 1: he's no longer alive. So it could be that he
Speaker 1: was the one watching in the sixties.
Speaker 2: Well, and it could very much so he could easily
Speaker 2: have access to see like the front porch and like
Speaker 2: just being the neighbor and stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: Regardless of lack of evidence was a theme to go
Speaker 1: with like basically everything in this case. And other than
Speaker 1: like some letters that investigators had, they had nothing, no fingerprints, handwriting,
Speaker 1: DNA photographs, motives like literally no useful information of any
Speaker 1: sort to point them in the right direction. So it's
Speaker 1: brought on a slew of suspects, including like all surrounding
Speaker 1: neighbors that I mentioned earlier, a teen boy who just
Speaker 1: so happened to pull over on the side of the
Speaker 1: road in front of the house, whose girlfriend lived in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. The list, like literally goes on, but it
Speaker 1: gets more obscure the farther you dive into it. So
Speaker 1: none of those suspects I'm even going to bother touching
Speaker 1: on because it's just such a stretch that we're it's
Speaker 1: not worth it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, But I also have to say, this
Speaker 2: is such a shitty way to get introduced to your neighbors. Hey, right,
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about this, like eventually if they move in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all their neighbors have been accused of like harassing them.
Speaker 1: Oh definitely that sucks. So all the while, though the
Speaker 1: broadest family were feeling the heavy burden of the house
Speaker 1: and of course the letters. Derek was suffering from depression,
Speaker 1: Maria was diagnosed with PTSD. The financial struggle of the home,
Speaker 1: the kids not understanding what was going on weighing down
Speaker 1: on them day after day. It's just this heavy, heavy,
Speaker 1: heavy burden. The idea of selling the home was long gone, however,
Speaker 1: as news of six point fifty seven Boulevard and the
Speaker 1: Watcher had made its way to the public.
Speaker 2: Oh, because I was like, they need to just sell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no longer viable. People weren't interested. New sources
Speaker 1: cover the story. The Internet became obsessed with the story.
Speaker 1: Anytime someone would become interested in the house because they
Speaker 1: did put it up for sale, they would quickly back
Speaker 1: out of the deal once they were legally granted access
Speaker 1: to read the letters before purchasing.
Speaker 2: Oh, because they had to like disclose that yep, So.
Speaker 1: They would get the letters to read and right away
Speaker 1: they would back out and rightfully.
Speaker 2: So well, yeah, I wonder like okay, because they could
Speaker 2: probably also googled it, but like I've never googled a
Speaker 2: home address if I moved, and now I'm going to
Speaker 2: for sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, it's a good idea. Yeah, sorry, I got it.
Speaker 2: Yikest here your devis to be a munga reata. I
Speaker 2: have left good hands here. I love it.
Speaker 1: Who I got to work in.
Speaker 2: The morning, Yeah you do.
Speaker 1: Okay, So eventually though, selling it's just clearly not on
Speaker 1: the table. The Broadnesses came up with an idea that
Speaker 1: could end it all.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 1: What if they demolished the house and what if they
Speaker 1: split the property into two lots and erect two homes.
Speaker 1: This would they would seem to break even financially, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But that would really piss them off.
Speaker 1: But they would no longer be six fifty seven Boulevard
Speaker 1: and no house for the watcher to watch, and no
Speaker 1: watcher because which house is going to be six fifty
Speaker 1: seven after that? It's not the house is gone, the
Speaker 1: property split two new houses, which one is, well, yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Should almost have it so that neither of them is
Speaker 2: that address. Well exactly, I bet you they could do that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they said the idea. That was their plan.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like anything that they wanted to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was the best plan they had. Financially they'd
Speaker 1: break even.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like it. Their thinkers.
Speaker 1: That's where they went is applied to have the property
Speaker 1: split into two so they can move forward with the plan.
Speaker 1: Things quickly came to a halt, however, as the planning
Speaker 1: board denied the proposal, as individual property must meet certain
Speaker 1: size requirements within the neighborhood of seventy feet wide per lot,
Speaker 1: and if they split up the property, each lot would
Speaker 1: be drum roll sixty nine feet sixty seven feet three
Speaker 1: feet shy of the requirements. Their proposal was unanimously denied.
Speaker 2: That's bullshit because they needed to just give it to them.
Speaker 1: Just wait to add salt to injury. Later that year,
Speaker 1: the board approved another property in the area to split
Speaker 1: their lot and it would result in each property being
Speaker 1: much less than the even sixty seven feet.
Speaker 2: So that motherfucker the Watcher is on that committee. Done.
Speaker 2: I just saw the shit.
Speaker 1: Oh you think so? Yeah, Well before we get to
Speaker 1: the next letter, because there is another one coming up.
Speaker 1: Left with little alternative, the family turned to renting out
Speaker 1: the house. They need some income somehow.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised someone want to rent it.
Speaker 1: But okay, well, people needed to be notified of the
Speaker 1: Watcher And however, there was a clause that they put
Speaker 1: in there that would void the least agreement if another
Speaker 1: letter came to the doorstep shortly after the renters moved in.
Speaker 1: Another let guy. This one, This letter, though, is different
Speaker 1: it's nice.
Speaker 2: Maybe no, it's nice, nice to the renters, But no, no, this.
Speaker 1: One is filled with a lot more hate, violent winds
Speaker 1: and bitter cold to the vile and spiteful Derek and
Speaker 1: his wench of a wife, Maria. You wonder who the
Speaker 1: Watcher is? Turn around, you idiots. Maybe you even spoke
Speaker 1: to me, one of those so called neighbors who has
Speaker 1: no idea who the Watcher could be. Or maybe you
Speaker 1: know who you are or who I am, and you're
Speaker 1: scared to tell anyone. Good move. I walked by the
Speaker 1: news trucks when they took over my neighborhood and mocked me.
Speaker 1: I watched, as you watch from a dark house, in
Speaker 1: an attempt to find me. Telescopes and binoculars are wonderful inventions.
Speaker 1: Six fifty seven Boulevard survived your attempted assault and stood
Speaker 1: strong with its army of supporters barricading its gates. My
Speaker 1: soldiers of the Boulevard followed my orders to a tee.
Speaker 1: They carried out their mission and saved six fifty seven
Speaker 1: Boulevard with my orders. All hail the Watcher. Maybe a
Speaker 1: car accident, maybe a fire, maybe something as simple as
Speaker 1: a mild illness that never seems to go away but
Speaker 1: makes you feel sick day after day after day after
Speaker 1: day after day. Maybe the mysterious death of a pet.
Speaker 1: Loved ones suddenly die, planes and cars and bicycles crash,
Speaker 1: bones break.
Speaker 2: What an asshole.
Speaker 1: So, just like you said, he very well could be
Speaker 1: controlling the board, and he even said so in this letter.
Speaker 2: Okay, but he doesn't have that much power. He's on
Speaker 2: the board. I already think I figured this out.
Speaker 1: Okay, who is it?
Speaker 2: One of the board people, and we need to know
Speaker 2: who they are, and then I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the board members are, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of Like, he just.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have this much power. I think, like you said,
Speaker 2: he's like full himself.
Speaker 1: But I do think that, I definitely think. I mean
Speaker 1: he's casting like such a wide net, like maybe a
Speaker 1: car accident, maybe a fire, maybe something simple as a
Speaker 1: small illness that never seems to go away but makes
Speaker 1: you feel sick after Oh no, I have a common cold.
Speaker 1: Oh the watcher, that's what that.
Speaker 2: They didn't grant them this They're amazing idea. I'm so
Speaker 2: upset about that. Yeah, that idea is genius.
Speaker 1: It was it was good. Move on them trying to
Speaker 1: think that up, but didn't quite pano.
Speaker 2: Oh so he's getting angry, he is.
Speaker 1: So again, the Broadest family would turn to the police,
Speaker 1: and again they would be met with a dead end.
Speaker 1: Frustrated and lost, sorry hold on, frustrated and lost with
Speaker 1: what to do with the family. They tried to sue
Speaker 1: the Woodses really did.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if I love that.
Speaker 1: Well, the Woodses had received a letter prior.
Speaker 2: To and they didn't disclose.
Speaker 1: They didn't disclose it, but they held information. We don't
Speaker 1: know if it was a bad letter. They dismissed it
Speaker 1: and turfed it.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, this just is turning real mass.
Speaker 1: Well, the lawsuit didn't go anywhere. It fell through. It
Speaker 1: was kind of null and voyage.
Speaker 2: I mean, they are in They're not right either. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love the woods Is either.
Speaker 2: But this is just a disaster it is.
Speaker 1: There are, however, some allegations that the Broadest family themselves
Speaker 1: were the ones to do it.
Speaker 2: Oh they like maybe realized that they got themselves in
Speaker 2: a situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. However, like a lot of these allegations aren't really
Speaker 1: worth mentioning. I'm gonna say that. But the idea mostly
Speaker 1: is that The Watcher was a hoax put on by
Speaker 1: the family, And there is a bit of noteworthy information here.
Speaker 1: Shortly after being denied to split the property up, there
Speaker 1: was letters dropped off at the doorstep of every board
Speaker 1: members from the Watcher that was very angry, spiteful, hateful,
Speaker 1: and Derek admitted it was him who dropped those letters.
Speaker 1: He regrets it. He was just pissed off up. So
Speaker 1: that leads people like, oh, maybe he was watching ready there,
Speaker 1: So maybe it was a play for attention, or maybe
Speaker 1: it was potentially gain off media and even sell the
Speaker 1: rights for a movie deal to Hollywood. That's one of
Speaker 1: the things people are saying. But allegations towards the family
Speaker 1: have literally haunted them since the story became public. But
Speaker 1: just like before, though, there's there's no evidence, there's no motive,
Speaker 1: and there's just no proving any of it.
Speaker 2: That would actually be a really good movie.
Speaker 1: It would be really good.
Speaker 2: Eh.
Speaker 1: No, definitely i'd watch that. There is actually a movie
Speaker 1: called The Watcher, which I think came out before this,
Speaker 1: that starts Keanu reeves, I don't even know what's about.
Speaker 1: But so the fourth letter will be the last correspondence
Speaker 1: from the Watcher. The house was put back on the
Speaker 1: market in March of twenty sixteen, and the Broadest family
Speaker 1: was finally able to re sell their home in August
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen for a grand total of how much
Speaker 1: nine hundred and sixty thousand.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's actually not terrible. It's it's going to be
Speaker 2: a lot lower.
Speaker 1: But it's a four hundred thousand loss in the property.
Speaker 2: Oh is it that much?
Speaker 1: Plus inflation though, so that's before inflation, so you're probably
Speaker 1: looking at they probably lost close to five hundred.
Speaker 2: Grand having when they put some money in for renals and.
Speaker 1: Stuff they did, so probably even more.
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess that's quite a loss. Yeah, well I
Speaker 2: thought it would have not been able to sell for
Speaker 2: that much.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, while they have lost well, I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's a famous house. There's could be someone interested regardless
Speaker 1: of its background. It's famous, right, owning history, owning something
Speaker 1: that people will gawk at. Yeah, so, well, they may
Speaker 1: not have gained money, they lost money. In fact, they
Speaker 1: did gain a lot more. They gained their lives back.
Speaker 1: They're free from the senatester actions of the Watcher the
Speaker 1: burden of the letters. It's now on someone else, the
Speaker 1: new homeowners, right, it's theirs to worry about. However, six
Speaker 1: fifty seven Boulevard and its new homeowners have chosen to
Speaker 1: stay anonymous.
Speaker 2: Oh really, so we have no idea if they've gotten
Speaker 2: any letters.
Speaker 1: No idea. Oh dang, so as far as we know
Speaker 1: that fourth letters could but I doubt they'll they'll.
Speaker 2: Uh, they won't tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is there's one final thing, because that's the
Speaker 1: end of the story. But there is one final thing
Speaker 1: I want to note here. Netflix has actually picked up
Speaker 1: the rights to this.
Speaker 2: Oh fun.
Speaker 1: Uh so, Oh I only have the first name. Shoot,
Speaker 1: I thought I had the whole name. Anyways, there's a
Speaker 1: producer who works very closely with Netflix and has produced
Speaker 1: a lot of different stuff and is very like high regards.
Speaker 1: He's producing a seven episode series which each episode will
Speaker 1: be one hour in length, and the limited series will
Speaker 1: be more akin to like American Horror Story. But he
Speaker 1: is going to be covering that and it's going to
Speaker 1: be coming out later in twenty twenty one, I believe.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's super fun.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you want to see the whole series
Speaker 1: on the Watcher on Netflix. Ah, watch out for it.
Speaker 1: See what I did there?
Speaker 2: I did like. I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is the Watcher of six fifty seven Boulevard.
Speaker 2: Okay, I definitely like thought it was gonna be something else.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I thought it was just gonna
Speaker 2: be like a lot of different stalking incidents of different people,
Speaker 2: not like the same poor family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there it was just an onslaught of just
Speaker 1: like they don't know what to do. How can you
Speaker 1: do anything over there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's crazy that just like ever buy a
Speaker 2: house expensive, just buy a tiny home. You can't get yourself.
Speaker 2: You can just move your fucking house. You're good to go.
Speaker 1: How did you get that moral from this story? Oh,
Speaker 1: these people bought an expensive house. Someone stocked him. Therefore,
Speaker 1: don't buy.
Speaker 2: An expense buy a tiny youre good to go. That
Speaker 2: makes no sense of the story. Wow, Okay, I'm just kidding,
Speaker 2: but that actually makes sense because then you don't lose
Speaker 2: money if you have to peace, if you could piece
Speaker 2: out like that's at one point whatever.
Speaker 1: The nice thing about having a tiny home is if
Speaker 1: we have a watcher, we can piece out with the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just gonna like hop on the back.
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: No, so that's creepy. I do feel really bad for
Speaker 2: these people, definitely, so hope. I'm hoping that their life
Speaker 2: is okay.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, our life is going to be okay when
Speaker 1: we go to Vancouver and we do the Lydy in
Speaker 1: Red episode next week.
Speaker 2: Oh can I just like okay? I don't know if
Speaker 2: people are like super like. I don't know if we
Speaker 2: have a lot of listeners that are into Vancouver, but
Speaker 2: like if they have any cool like restaurants or places
Speaker 2: to visit, like hit us up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely working everyone. Actually one hundred.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have some free time there. I want to
Speaker 2: do some cool stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, there'll be a lot happening on our Instagram and
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Speaker 2: Perfect. Good job, Ben, Well, until next time, stay Wicked.