WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:03.560 Hey, what's up all you wonderfully wicked people. 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:08.039 I'm Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked and Grim, 3 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:09.640 a true crime podcast. 4 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:18.800 Warning. The following podcast contains and material intended more mature audience. 5 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:39.960 The listener discretion. We don't have any any cans to 6 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:43.119 open this episode, cheers the clink. We have Margarita's. 7 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.799 Yeah, it's a party to not we are. 8 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:51.439 It's Monday and we're just drinking Margarita's. That's it. There's 9 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:52.719 no story to go along with it. 10 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:54.880 But they probably don't know that we're actually like obsessed 11 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:55.719 with Margarita's. 12 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:57.240 Margarita's are the ship. 13 00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:58.799 They're freaking delicious. 14 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:03.439 The only beverage better than Margarita is chocolate. 15 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.439 Oh okay, I like, what is it? What is it? 16 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:08.359 Chocolate milk? That's it. That's the only one that can 17 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:09.840 be to Margarita. 18 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:12.200 I don't know. I think i'd if I had to 19 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:14.120 choose between the two, I would choose Margarita. 20 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.640 Yeah. Well, when we're in Vancouver, we'll have to make 21 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.760 sure that we like, go get a lot of Margaritas, 22 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.760 because I'm pretty sure I mix like the best margarita ever. 23 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:24.760 So let's see if someone can compete with my margarita, just. 24 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:26.640 Saying your margarita is a pretty dang good. 25 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.000 If you guys want a margarita recipe, I'm gonna tell 26 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:32.000 you right now. Minute made limemad a whole can of 27 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.799 that bunch of ice, tequila triple sec and a little 28 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:37.879 bit of water just to kind of make it so 29 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:42.000 it's not like too like slushy and boom, and you 30 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:43.560 got like the best margarita in the world. 31 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:44.879 Just saying it's pretty good. 32 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:46.000 It's amazing. 33 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.599 I don't actually love the rim salted though I could 34 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.239 pass on that shit. I do. 35 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.920 It hits me right once in a while, but not 36 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.159 not all the time. Some people actually sugar the rim. 37 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:58.719 Do you know that I would like that better? 38 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.439 Yeah, yep. I generally drink it out of a straw though, 39 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:03.159 so it doesn't matter. I usually just sult it because 40 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.239 it makes it look pretty. Yeah, with your little line, 41 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.400 I want to look fancy a pinky to take a. 42 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:11.039 Picture your brig and marguerite compared to mine. Mine just 43 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.240 a missed jar like I gave two ships. 44 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.800 Mine's actually in a marguerita glass, salt lime every Yeah. 45 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:18.719 I was just like, just give me the bows. 46 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:22.039 Yep, you're excited for a Vancouver trip though. 47 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:25.039 Yeah. Sorry, I'm just like watching her dog and wondering 48 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:26.120 if I should go help her. 49 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:30.319 Oh, she's fine, Okay, she's just aimlessly wandering. She's going 50 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.080 back upstairs screw these guys. Yeah okay, but yeah, this 51 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:36.800 means next episode is going to be the lady in red. 52 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.360 On location, which is so cool. 53 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:39.919 Maybe she'll visit us. 54 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:41.879 She better not. 55 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:43.680 I kind of hope she does. 56 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.080 You do, hope she does. But honestly, I would be 57 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:47.400 able to deal with that shit better than you. 58 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:49.039 Oh, I will scream like a little bitch. 59 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.879 I think it would traumatize you more than Actually. 60 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:54.280 I want her to come so I can have the 61 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.400 experience and then tell people I handled it like a 62 00:02:57.439 --> 00:02:59.919 manly man when in reality I can. 63 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.280 Yeah. And I would know the truth. Yeah, yeah, and 64 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:04.199 I wouldn't lie for you. 65 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.759 Sorry. I mean I would cower from a lot of things. 66 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.400 I'm I'm one of the kind of guys I would 67 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:12.360 stand up for some things, but when it comes to 68 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.800 like paranormal activity, I cower. 69 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:18.960 I think seeing a ghost would be really freaky. But 70 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:21.159 the main reason I'm excited for Vancouver I feel like 71 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.120 you're excited because you're staying at the Paramount doing this podcast. 72 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.000 But it's just see your tiny homework. 73 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.319 Yeah, is done, it's pretty much done well by the 74 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:30.520 time we done. 75 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.000 By the time we get there, it will be built 76 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:33.919 on which is like a few weeks a couple of 77 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:37.039 weeks ahead of schedule, which is like what, So we'll make. 78 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.080 Sure we've logged that and vlog of course the fair 79 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:39.759 amount as well. 80 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.800 Yeah, so that'll all be I'm so excited. 81 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:44.759 So if you want to see some vlogs, some stuff 82 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.400 on YouTube, we only have one video right now, but 83 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.599 coming in Vancouver, we're definitely gonna put more out there. 84 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:50.879 Yeah, we'll have the time. 85 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:53.960 Hopefully, we're way too busy. 86 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:56.439 We'll be on vacation. I'm assuming on vacation you have 87 00:03:56.439 --> 00:03:57.360 time to do That's true. 88 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:58.000 That's true. 89 00:03:58.159 --> 00:03:59.199 That's my goalingway. 90 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:00.639 I don't know, I don't I don't know if I 91 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.120 would have the same amount of time that the person 92 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:07.080 in this case has though, because this person dedicated a 93 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:07.960 lot of time. 94 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.800 To watching Well, I know, I just saw your Instagram posts. 95 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.759 I'm not like overly excited about this ship. 96 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:15.479 Well, I wanted to change the tone a little bit 97 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.519 because the last two cases were pretty heavy hitting. 98 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.959 They were really heavy, so the amount of messages I 99 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.480 would get be like I hate you guys, I know right. 100 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:25.000 Well, we even had a few people who are like 101 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.439 diehard listeners were like, yeah, I made. 102 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.000 It this one. That one, well it was mostly okay. 103 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.160 I feel like mine was like pretty intense, but we 104 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.319 still like kept it at a like pretty light hearted level. 105 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:38.079 But yours it just could not be kept at the 106 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:38.959 lighthearted level. 107 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:41.560 Well, it dumbfounded shocked both. 108 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.000 Of us so well, and I know I was just 109 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:44.240 like I didn't know what to say because it was 110 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:44.800 like holy shit. 111 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.519 Anyways, though this case is as creepy as hell, don't 112 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:52.360 get me wrong, but it's no one dies, no one's 113 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:57.319 torture die, no one's raped. So it's it's creepy, but 114 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:58.120 that's about it. 115 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.839 Okay, Okay, it can't be that bad. No one died. 116 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:06.199 This one is known as the Watcher. The Watcher, Yeah, 117 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:09.600 it's a whole stalking episode. 118 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:11.519 If okay, that's a bit creepy. 119 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:13.480 If you can want to say it's stocking, I don't 120 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.079 know you we'll get into it. You'll see, make your 121 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:16.600 own judgment call if you want to call it stocking 122 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:18.439 or not. Okay, see you ready for this? 123 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:20.839 Yeah, I just took a swig of on margarita. I'm 124 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:21.240 good to go. 125 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.560 I need to do the same thing. 126 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:28.040 That was me making side effects. Okay, that's a big. 127 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.920 Swigs down half my margarita. 128 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.879 Now we're gonna have this is our drunk from the drunk. 129 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.360 Okay, we're like five minutes in the intro. Let's let's 130 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:36.839 get on with this. 131 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:37.439 Let's do it. 132 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.519 Okay. So in June of twenty fourteen, this is this 133 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.240 is fairly recent case, not even ten years ago. 134 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:44.639 Cool. 135 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:48.160 I like that Derek and Maria broad Us had closed 136 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:50.879 the deal to purchase a six bedroom house at six 137 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:55.920 five seven Boulevard, Westfield, New Jersey. Okay, Westfields. It's it's 138 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.800 a welcoming place. It's like, you know, a nice neighborhood. 139 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:01.240 It's a place where neighbors might like actually introduce themselves, 140 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:03.240 meet you with warm greeting and welcome you to the 141 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:05.000 neighborhood sort of thing. You know. It maybe even bring 142 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:06.319 you a couple cookies on. 143 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:08.319 A platter or something like a pie or something. 144 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.240 Yeah, Ki wants some attention. If you're heard hear me? 145 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.240 How Kiwi's like in our face, all our all of 146 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:15.000 our animals. 147 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.160 I know, I almost want to be like, just go 148 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.040 somewhere else in the tiny home. 149 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:21.600 We can kick them out of the house maybe, or 150 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:24.839 it'll just be it will be worse. Okay, welcome to 151 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.959 Waken and groom. We have animals. We love them, We 152 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:31.519 love you guys. Deal with it, okay. Anyways, so they're 153 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:35.879 moving into this new house. It's a dream house, amazing neighborhood. 154 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:37.480 Right, Okay, it only sounds promising. 155 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:41.199 It's only forty five minutes from New York. Oh, it's 156 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.319 a bit too like slow lifestyle for like most singles 157 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.519 and stuff, which means the town's thirty thousand residents are 158 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.839 largely like well off families because the're fairly nice houses. 159 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:52.680 It's to be like a little ways out of a 160 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:53.360 big city like that. 161 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.879 I think that's perfect. Definitely, definitely. It's like, I don't know, 162 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:00.399 like a sitcoms, like perfect neighborhood sort of thing. Okay, Okay, 163 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.519 So the Broadesses purchased the house for one point three 164 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:05.639 million dollars. 165 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:06.759 Okay, that's a lot of money. 166 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:09.839 Well, it was one three hundred and fifty five one million, 167 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:11.879 three hundred fift five thousand, six hundred and fifty seven, 168 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:14.879 which is an oddly specific number in my opinion, but whatever. 169 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:17.639 Yeah, but house prices are like kind of weird sometimes 170 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:18.279 how that. 171 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.639 Worked either way, they were overjoyed. This was literally their 172 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.839 dream home. Okay, it was in a familiar neighborhood, as 173 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:29.079 Maria grew up in the in the sorry Margerie's are 174 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.839 hitting me. She grew up in the neighborhood in a 175 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:34.240 home only a few blocks away. 176 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:35.160 Oh that's cool. 177 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.199 And for her husband, Derek, it was like the perfect 178 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.319 place for him to raise his family with his wife's 179 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:44.120 sort of thing. They had three kids. It was just 180 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.399 everything about it's perfect. And it was perfect to the 181 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.399 point that the kids were even planning which fireplace sent 182 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:50.759 was going to come down during. 183 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:53.639 Christmas and the wan fireplace. 184 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:55.240 Yeah, and they hadn't even moved in yet. And this 185 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:56.399 is what the kids are talking about. 186 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:57.560 This sounds too perfect. 187 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.879 I'm already literally picture perfect. 188 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:01.600 Yeah, nothing's perfect. 189 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.759 So three days after they purchased their new home, Derek 190 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:09.720 was inside doing some renovations. They hadn't moved in yet, Okay, 191 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.439 so he's inside painting, getting ready for the move. And 192 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:15.480 Derek kind of finished up and he went outside to 193 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.160 check the mail, and inside he found some letters. You know, 194 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.759 of course it's mail. Yeah, but one letter specifically was 195 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:27.959 addressed to quote unquote the new owners in chunky letters. Okay, 196 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:33.720 I'm gonna give not a warning, but a heads up 197 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:38.240 to everyone listening. The letters have never actually been fully 198 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:42.039 published to the public, so we don't fully know what 199 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:42.919 the letters have said. 200 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:44.039 I wonder why that is. 201 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.960 It's they just kept him private. And some sections of 202 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:52.360 the letters have come through via court cases. Okay, okay, 203 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.919 so I've pieced together the letters the best I can. 204 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:01.360 I'm sure there's some missing, but here we go. Inside 205 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.720 the envelope was a type note that began with a 206 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:08.639 warm greeting, dearest neighbors of six five seven Boulevard, allow 207 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:10.200 me to welcome you to the neighborhood. 208 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:11.320 That's nice. 209 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.399 How did you end up here? Did six five seven 210 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:18.039 Boulevard call to you with its force? Within? Six five 211 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.600 seven Boulevard has been the subject of my family for 212 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:23.399 decades now, and as it approaches its one hundred and 213 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:28.039 tenth birthday, it has been put in charge, sorry, I 214 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.279 have been put in charge of watching and waiting for 215 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.279 its second coming. My grandfather watched the house in the 216 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.279 nineteen twenties, my father watched in the nineteen sixties, and 217 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.799 now it's my time. Do you know the history of 218 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:42.399 the house? Do you know what lies within the walls 219 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:46.080 of six five seven Boulevard? Why are you here? I 220 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:51.279 will find out? Creepy as fuck? Yeah, No, creepy as fuck. 221 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:55.799 Okay, that has to be like a There has to 222 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:57.960 be some sort of way for them to get the 223 00:09:58.039 --> 00:09:59.879 fuck out of that new purchase. 224 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:01.919 No, they bought it, it's theirs. 225 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:05.399 Yeah, but okay, if shit wasn't disclosed of this weird history, 226 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:08.799 you have a house, you're lawyer or you're not your 227 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:10.840 real turn. Shit can be at fault, can't they. 228 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:13.360 We go about my mic, we get into a bit 229 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.240 of the history on that. So that's that's to come 230 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.360 up here. Now, however, that's not the end letter. That's 231 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.919 only like one third of it. So to continue on, 232 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.799 I see already that you have flooded six five seven 233 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.399 Boulevard with contractors, so you can destroy the house as 234 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:34.039 it was supposed to be. Tusk tisk tisk. 235 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:36.519 Wow the judgment there, bad move. 236 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.799 You don't want to you don't want to make six 237 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:44.039 five seven boulevard. Unhappy you have children? I have seen 238 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.759 them so far. I think there are three that have 239 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.559 that I have counted. Are there more on the way? 240 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.639 I have asked the woods to bring me young blood, 241 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.559 and it looks like they listened. Do you need to 242 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.559 fill the house with young blood as I requested? Better 243 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.279 for me? Was your old old house too small for 244 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:08.840 the growing family? Bless you? First way to go? You 245 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:14.240 just ruined the ambiance? Good, It's all good? Okay? Where 246 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:16.639 was I? Was your old house too small for the 247 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.080 growing family? Or was it greed? Or was it greed? 248 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.759 To bring me your children? Once I know their names, 249 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.919 I will call to them and draw them to me. Oh, 250 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:30.039 last little bit of letter? Ready for this? 251 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:31.559 No, I already hate the letter. 252 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.720 Oh it's weird. I would be like one weird thing is? 253 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.759 It's like so formal and well written, not necessarily well written, 254 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:42.559 but very formal and like almost old English and very. 255 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.720 Yeah I did, actually it was like kind of old fashioned. 256 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:48.720 Who am I? There are hundreds and hundreds of cars 257 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.480 that drive by six fifty seven Boulevard each day? Maybe 258 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:54.799 I am in one. Look at all the windows you 259 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.919 can see from six five seven Boulevard. Maybe I am 260 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.840 in one look out any of the many windows in 261 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.519 six five seven Boulevard, Boulevard, at all the people who 262 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.200 stroll by each day. Maybe I am one have a 263 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.320 happy moving in day. You know I will be watching Wow, Welcome, 264 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:17.639 Let the party begin, signed at the end in a 265 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:22.080 cursive typed font, not hand signed the watcher. 266 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.879 The watcher. Okay, I would honestly feel like, I don't know, 267 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.960 you'd be only Cloud nine. You're just mooed into this 268 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:31.600 awesome house, like your dream house. I'd probably be like, oh, 269 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:34.240 this is like a prank. Most like I would go 270 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:36.080 there and be like, oh, this is so real. I mean, 271 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:37.720 i'd probably be a little nervous, but I think I 272 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.679 would more so just like think it's a prank. 273 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:42.120 But there are still some details about that. They've they've 274 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.919 seen your three kids, which right away, for any parent, 275 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:46.919 your kids are most likely going to be your priority 276 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:51.039 to protect. Yeah, so that's a big red flag there. Second, 277 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:53.960 they the person did know the family prior to because 278 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.600 he mentioned the Woods, which is the prior family, the 279 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.039 Woods family, Like. 280 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:00.000 Okay, what do you mean the family before these? 281 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:02.399 Yes, who moved out and sold the house to the 282 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:02.960 new family. 283 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.480 Their last name is okay, okay. 284 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:08.759 So he referenced them. So he knows the Woods or 285 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.320 at least their name, and he knows that these people 286 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:14.639 are bringing in contractors and have three kids. So he 287 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.039 clearly is whether it's a prank. He clearly is watching 288 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:18.759 to some degree. 289 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:22.240 I guess I want to know why the Woods people moved. 290 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:25.080 I hope you're going to go over that. Well, let's 291 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:27.519 keep going, Okay, yeah, I am. 292 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.240 So when Derek read this letter, it was after about 293 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.600 ten pm, and Derek's wife and the kids were currently 294 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.600 at their old house elsewhere in Westfield, you know, getting 295 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.480 ready to move in certain thing. All right, Sorry, it 296 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.120 wasn't elsewhere in Westfield. They were elsewhere while in Westfield 297 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:44.480 he was there. Sorry I wrote that. 298 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:45.759 Weird, No, it makes sense. 299 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.399 So somewhere else. So the watcher was watching, potentially even 300 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.360 watching Derek read the letter. 301 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.639 On his front hand. That's kind of creepy. 302 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.080 So Derek immediately went inside the house, raced around, turning 303 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:00.639 off all the lights that no one could see, and 304 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.679 he called the Westfield police right away. 305 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.200 Oh so this like really got to him? 306 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:06.279 Oh yeah, definitely. 307 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:07.200 Yeah. 308 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.039 An officer immediately arrived to the house read the letter 309 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:14.480 and said, quote unquote, what the fuck is this? Best 310 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:17.120 response for a police officer for what the fuck is this? 311 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:19.120 That's my kind of police officer. 312 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:22.399 I love it, just getting down to it. I love it. 313 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:23.159 That's funny. 314 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:25.720 So he asked Derek if he had any enemies, and 315 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.440 as far as Derek knew, he didn't, which I mean, 316 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:30.519 most people don't think they have enemies. 317 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.799 But who knows, right, Yeah, you never really know, I guess. 318 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.360 So Derek rushed back to his wife and kids that night, 319 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.559 and he and his wife Maria wrote an email to 320 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.159 John and Andrea Woods, the previous owners of. 321 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.240 The property, and we're like, what the shit? 322 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.200 Yep, pretty much. Well I don't think they were aggressive 323 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.000 about it, but they were questioning, right, Well, yeah, I 324 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.919 would be. So the previous owners were an older couple 325 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:53.559 and it doesn't say why they moved out. I'm assuming 326 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:55.000 it's most likely downsizing or. 327 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:55.960 Something like that. 328 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:58.720 So they were an older couple who previously owned the 329 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.159 property before him, and you know, like I said, I 330 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.679 recently sold. But in an email, they asked the couple 331 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:05.840 if they had any idea who the watcher might be 332 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.799 and why he had written the letter and quote to Derek, 333 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.039 I had asked the Woods. Sorry, not quote to Derek, 334 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.240 quote to the Watcher, because specifically in there, I had 335 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.080 asked the Woods to bring me young blood. And it 336 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.879 looks like they listened right, oh right, So clearly it 337 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:26.720 might tie the Woods. They might have an idea. So 338 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:31.080 the next morning they actually received a reply from Andrea Woods, 339 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:34.679 and a few days before moving out of the house, 340 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.240 she said that they had also received a letter from 341 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.240 the Watcher. She said the note had been odd, and 342 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:45.000 she said that there is never any or sorry why 343 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:50.360 jumped ahead? Do do do do do do? 344 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:50.600 Do? 345 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:53.639 Okay, So she said the note was odd and it 346 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.000 made similar mention of the Watcher's family observing the house 347 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:59.720 over time. But Andrea said her and her husband never 348 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.559 received anything in the twenty three years of living in 349 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:03.039 the house. 350 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.000 I think that's bullshit. I don't believe that. 351 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.440 She said that her and her husband, once they received 352 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:13.039 it before moving out of the house, just dismissed the 353 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.720 letter as like you said, a prank and just turfed 354 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:17.159 the letter. 355 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.879 I just feel that's very weird that these people instantly 356 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.039 move in, instantly get a letter, but then those other 357 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:25.399 people are there for twenty three years and one letter. 358 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:31.759 Yeah. No, so, but it could just be this new 359 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.120 watcher because he said his father watched it before him, 360 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.360 his grandfather watched before him. It could just be that 361 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:40.240 this watcher who's now taking over the air of watching 362 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:43.399 six fifty seven Boulevard is just anxious. 363 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:47.600 And I guess or it came like maybe they saw 364 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:48.919 Ittless did. 365 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:56.000 Maybe or something. Who knows what, why, how, where, everything, 366 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:58.159 But this is a situation we are in. 367 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:01.039 So cool. 368 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:04.920 Yeah. So the woods Is were more happy, more than 369 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:08.519 happy to actually help out with Derek and Maria and 370 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.319 do whatever they needed to talk to police or whatever. 371 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:12.920 Okay, well that's good. 372 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:14.920 Yeah. So later that day they went down to the 373 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:19.839 police station where Detective Leonard Lugo joined the case and 374 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:21.119 listened to what they had to say. 375 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.279 Good name, pronunciation, thank you. 376 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:26.240 I appreciate that. I tried really hard to tell. 377 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.000 If someone was watching you right now, they would know 378 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:28.519 you were trying. 379 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:30.400 Well. The moment I tried to say the name, like 380 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.200 my posture went up, shoulders back, and I'm like, I 381 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:39.720 got this, like goose frob a own meditating beforehand, just 382 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:44.000 to get it right. Okay. Anyways, so after talking for 383 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.200 a while about the house and the letters quote unquote 384 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:51.559 the watcher. Sorry end quote unquote the watcher. I'm getting 385 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:58.039 mixed up today, sorry, guys. So the investigator, Leonard told 386 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.759 Maria and Derek and the Woods, is not to tell 387 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:06.200 anyone about these letters, including any neighbors, to keep it hush, hush, 388 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:07.960 quiet under the radar. 389 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.319 Okay, at first, it's like, what the frig? But that 390 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:13.759 makes sense actually, well because. 391 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:17.000 As of right now, all of the neighbors were now suspects, 392 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.480 and I didn't want to give away any idea of 393 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:24.440 the investigation occurring to a potential watcher, right exactly. Yeah, 394 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:28.240 So there was no if nothing was reported, no change 395 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:32.440 in any behaviors, there's no reason for any observing habits 396 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:35.720 of the watcher to change, potential letters to change. So 397 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:38.279 it might give the investigators a heads up to maybe 398 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:39.279 catch them in the act. 399 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:42.839 Right. I honestly love how like everyone's taking this so seriously, 400 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:46.200 which is like the police and everything, because sometimes, like 401 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:49.319