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Speaker 2: We got someone or something growing around out here?
Speaker 3: Does a legend walk among us working in the forests
Speaker 3: of our world?
Speaker 4: Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Was it a person or an animal? Or I can't go? Oh,
Speaker 2: I know it's that my thunder light came on and
Speaker 2: I just happened to glen and see this thing running
Speaker 2: across the yard. A good fight man or nothing works
Speaker 2: like a man.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,
Speaker 3: and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the
Speaker 3: existence of this mysterious entity.
Speaker 2: Jesus quite big, Carol Pel, Hello, get somebody out here.
Speaker 2: What's going to announce? There's got to revention about six
Speaker 2: four nine?
Speaker 5: I don't know, easy announce there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm working right away. Oh, okay, hand on her, Yeah,
Speaker 2: got you're big?
Speaker 1: Okay, what's he doing in your yard?
Speaker 6: We're gonna do you.
Speaker 3: Join us? As we continue into the investigation of the
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Speaker 3: at the end. It makes me Henry's alce special. They're
Speaker 3: good evening, folks, Welcome to The Sasquatch Experience. Monday, October fourteenth,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I'm your host, Seawn the Fort chop Forker,
Speaker 3: joined with Henry May, Matt Arner, James Baker, and our
Speaker 3: guest tonight, Tactical Mike. Mike Ann from Tactical Bigfoot Research,
Speaker 3: longtime friend of the show, former guest, and I figured
Speaker 3: it's just time to catch up, gentlemen, is what it was.
Speaker 3: I wanted a nice light show tonight, and nobody makes
Speaker 3: me happier most times than Mike, and so we're glad
Speaker 3: to have them on the show tonight. I mean, Matt,
Speaker 3: I mean, just to catch folks up. We did post
Speaker 3: the report from this hour, our research, our latest research endeavor.
Speaker 3: I have not got the photos uploaded yet. I'm sorry, folks.
Speaker 3: It's been a little challenging to try to get them
Speaker 3: in a way that makes sense. And I like the
Speaker 3: pictures to tell the story, and so that's what's taking
Speaker 3: so long. And then also Matt, if I can get
Speaker 3: the scan of the three D print, we might be
Speaker 3: able to put that up there too, if that's possible.
Speaker 3: So just things that we're working on here to get
Speaker 3: that up there. But they did get the initial report
Speaker 3: that was written by you, edited by me, nothing for context.
Speaker 3: Everything was included the way it was supposed to be,
Speaker 3: just how Matt and I like to do things. He
Speaker 3: writes it formally and I just posted and clean it up.
Speaker 3: So that's where we're at with that. Matt what he
Speaker 3: got to follow up on from their trip there over
Speaker 3: the weekend.
Speaker 6: So I actually went back out there and I took
Speaker 6: the one snowmobile trail, the one that was to the west,
Speaker 6: and hiked that in probably about two and a half miles.
Speaker 7: Got some video.
Speaker 6: Hopefully we'll I'll send it to you and we'll put
Speaker 6: it up on the Patreon found So the interesting part
Speaker 6: about that, I didn't see any further prints. But one
Speaker 6: thing I did see was that there was a ton
Speaker 6: of bear scat uh that was right along the roadway.
Speaker 6: And it was funny because when you when you see
Speaker 6: when I finally put the video together, it actually was
Speaker 6: going in the opposite direction. I was so as I
Speaker 6: passed by the first one. I mean it was literally
Speaker 6: not to make this route, but I mean it was steaming,
Speaker 6: and uh oh this one, this one definitely was. But
Speaker 6: as I walked further along the trail, you can tell, like,
Speaker 6: you know, it had been there. Uh the other ones
Speaker 6: I found had been there for for a little bit.
Speaker 6: But I found coyote tracks, I found, you know, obviously
Speaker 6: the bear sign. I did not see a lot of
Speaker 6: deer sign up there. I did put a camera up there,
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, we'll go back in a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks and and check on that. The forest through
Speaker 6: that area was as you went back a little farther,
Speaker 6: it was probably logged out within the last i'd say
Speaker 6: five to seven years, so they have the regrowth going.
Speaker 6: So it's a very young force. There's not a lot
Speaker 6: of there's not a lot of you know, mature hardwoods
Speaker 6: back through that area. But again, I was just along
Speaker 6: the road in to each side of me, you know,
Speaker 6: to the to the north and to the south, we're
Speaker 6: probably you know, a couple miles each way. Well, definitely
Speaker 6: to the to the west, we're looking at something like
Speaker 6: at least fifteen to twenty miles to the to where
Speaker 6: the one highway is one fifty five and then to
Speaker 6: the east, you know, maybe about four or five miles
Speaker 6: to age seventy two. So if I if I were
Speaker 6: to go one way or the other and get through
Speaker 6: where they where they did those the logging operations, I
Speaker 6: probably would get into mature hardwoods. The other thing too,
Speaker 6: is it's extremely thick getting through there, So even for
Speaker 6: an experienced person like myself, you know, it would be
Speaker 6: an all day endeavor just to get down into into
Speaker 6: some of those hollows out there. So definitely an interesting spot.
Speaker 6: And you know, well I'll definitely be up there quite
Speaker 6: a few times and you know, until the end of
Speaker 6: the year.
Speaker 7: So good spots, so do youth.
Speaker 5: So do you think that the less dear and more
Speaker 5: bear sightings is her sign? Is maybe have anything to
Speaker 5: do with the seasons, because I know that, like my
Speaker 5: fiance works in an old folks home and there's like
Speaker 5: six years that hang out there.
Speaker 4: But when the win, when it starts to become fall,
Speaker 4: we get.
Speaker 5: Like twenty seven of them because they start impacting out
Speaker 5: of the hunting areas into oh old people have you know,
Speaker 5: like you know.
Speaker 6: The pressure, human pressure does put a lot of into it.
Speaker 6: But up there there's no human pressure. It's very very few.
Speaker 6: I ran into one other hunter and he was he
Speaker 6: was literally two hundred yards from the parking lot, so uh,
Speaker 6: you know, I I got in pretty deep. And those
Speaker 6: two don't you know, if they were up there, they
Speaker 6: wouldn't you know, they're skittish anyway, so they're not gonna,
Speaker 6: you know, come up to us like they wouldn't hear
Speaker 6: in the Poconos. But generally in the fall, though, what
Speaker 6: happens is you start the running season you had in
Speaker 6: the early fall, late summer, early fall, you get what
Speaker 6: we call bachelor groups of buck. So you're gonna get
Speaker 6: you're gonna see And I had these on my on
Speaker 6: my trailt cameras all throughout August where you have you know,
Speaker 6: maybe four or five buck, you know, male deer that
Speaker 6: are going to run together. And then as the cold
Speaker 6: starts going, as the hormone start going and they start
Speaker 6: getting like that big testosterone, then they start spreading out
Speaker 6: the doze. On the other hand, they'll they'll come more
Speaker 6: together and uh and basically form a herd. So uh
Speaker 6: so that's probably what they may be seeing there. You're
Speaker 6: not going to see a lot of buck unless it's
Speaker 6: a at least for now, it's going to be mature, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, alpha buck. That's gonna be with those with
Speaker 6: those does. But you know, like I said, yes, no, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Matt, finish that thought because I was going to
Speaker 3: jump another Mike. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And and the one thing, the one thing is too,
Speaker 6: is that regardless of the rut going on right now,
Speaker 6: it's the start of the rut. You know, our witness
Speaker 6: had said he he hasn't seen these deer, he hasn't
Speaker 6: seen the turkey, He hasn't seen the elk you know,
Speaker 6: come through there.
Speaker 7: Every year.
Speaker 6: You know, he basically kept track of Hey, you know
Speaker 6: in October, I'm gonna see a lot of deertown by
Speaker 6: the apple tree. I'm gonna see elk out here by
Speaker 6: the field. Turkey say they come down in the morning.
Speaker 6: He's not seeing anything there, right. So the fact that
Speaker 6: we do have some predators out there, you know.
Speaker 3: We have something out there. Yeah, And I what was
Speaker 3: fascinating about it is we were up at twenty two
Speaker 3: hundred feet Mike. And this is what you know, I
Speaker 3: really wanted to, you know, chat you up with because
Speaker 3: you've been out to that area with us generally, not
Speaker 3: this area specifically, but in a roundabout How far is
Speaker 3: that area they we had them from this.
Speaker 6: You know, the two areas are probably maybe ten miles apart,
Speaker 6: fifteen miles apart. And it's just that, Mike, if you
Speaker 6: remember there, that little two lane road that you know,
Speaker 6: the highway where this is on the far side of
Speaker 6: the highway. You know, this was on the same side
Speaker 6: that we were on we were out with Alex.
Speaker 7: I've already done it. I have already muted myself and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: that little two lane Yeah, dive down that road to
Speaker 7: the camp site. Yes, I remember this, I know very well. Yes,
Speaker 7: you know, five miles an hour to fifty five miles
Speaker 7: an hour.
Speaker 3: Right. So what was interesting, Mike, is this guy told
Speaker 3: us we're up at twenty two hundred elevation. He's seeing
Speaker 3: nothing up there. He told us, whatever is up there
Speaker 3: has driven them down to the lower elevation. As soon
Speaker 3: as we hit fourteen hundred feet elevation. What did we see, Matt,
Speaker 3: Deers out the ass. I mean, we had deers, a
Speaker 3: group of almost twenty deers in somebody's yard, Elk turkeys.
Speaker 3: We saw a couple of turkeys yeah, all that wildlife
Speaker 3: that was absent from that twenty two hundred feet out
Speaker 3: exactly where this guy told us it was. And I
Speaker 3: found that to be pretty I think that's what kind
Speaker 3: of got me in the mode for the week on that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, in the night and the night we were up there,
Speaker 7: I mean we ended up up there with you guys
Speaker 7: there in the spring, and it was I mean it
Speaker 7: was snowing that day, so, I mean, and they were
Speaker 7: stool deer moving around. We still had other stuff. You
Speaker 7: guys had olk and everything, and god knows what I
Speaker 7: had coming through, you know when I got up there.
Speaker 7: But you know, when you say ten miles, folks, it's
Speaker 7: ten miles to the nearest gas station, and it takes
Speaker 7: you over an hour and a half to get to
Speaker 7: that ten miles because you know, as the crow flies,
Speaker 7: it's ten miles, it's not the roadway is ten miles.
Speaker 7: You know. When you guys told me, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's it's like three hours from my house. It was
Speaker 7: forty five minutes to get to the top of the mountain.
Speaker 7: After we got there. You know, it's absolutely the craziest
Speaker 7: you know, era, I mean, it's when you talk about
Speaker 7: you know the northeast and you know, I just got
Speaker 7: back from the Adronics and I mean there's more more
Speaker 7: pop The population was more up there than what you
Speaker 7: have in that area that I saw, you know, going
Speaker 7: through that area was just it's crazy. I mean it's
Speaker 7: it's a twilight zone up there.
Speaker 6: And and when you guys and when you guys came
Speaker 6: through there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: The one thing I went to especially put through the
Speaker 6: alex is that was like the big weekend because that
Speaker 6: was opening day of Trouse season and so all the camps,
Speaker 6: you know, most of the camps had people in them,
Speaker 6: and you know, we're going through there, and you know,
Speaker 6: it was it was a shock to hear one car
Speaker 6: going past us, you know, and you know, otherwise, you know,
Speaker 6: everyone's kind of either at their camp or you know,
Speaker 6: it really, like I said, even with a large influx
Speaker 6: of people, it's not a large influx of people like
Speaker 6: you would think going out to the Adironics are going
Speaker 6: to the Poconos in the fall. Here it's you know,
Speaker 6: we're talking. We just had you know, thirty forty thousand
Speaker 6: people in jim Thorpe this weekend up there. You were
Speaker 6: lucky if you had you know, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 6: two thousand people between between two counties, you know, in
Speaker 6: that particular area.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was closer for me to get
Speaker 7: gas to go back into New York than I'll just
Speaker 7: at something in that area. And but man, beautiful, and
Speaker 7: I'm still I'm still kicking myself. I downloaded my drone
Speaker 7: and for some reason it the photos didn't drop transfer over.
Speaker 7: There's still locked on my drone. Oh no, you have
Speaker 7: to figure out all the drones I have at work
Speaker 7: and everything like that and transfer files. No problem, This
Speaker 7: stuff is locked in the cash on the drone. And
Speaker 7: just to be able to the video I have that's
Speaker 7: still on that drone is absolutely amazing, and I have
Speaker 7: to figure ot how I'm going to get off.
Speaker 2: So well, it's the.
Speaker 4: Way to do that.
Speaker 5: You take you take the drone. You make sure it's
Speaker 5: pointing at you proper. You grab a toaster, toaster and
Speaker 5: part in front of it. Okay, then you pick up
Speaker 5: a screwdriver and go give.
Speaker 4: Me the footage.
Speaker 5: Everybody's done. Technical stuff will work for you.
Speaker 3: You know here, I really thought he had a solution
Speaker 3: for the problem.
Speaker 7: I knew where we were going. Yeah, I knew where
Speaker 7: we were going.
Speaker 3: I try once, didn't work until.
Speaker 4: I showed it the screwdriver and he didn't work.
Speaker 7: He didn't work for the geek squad, did there?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 3: Now, I tell you what, guys, this is what we
Speaker 3: deal with every couple of weeks. But it's a good crew.
Speaker 3: So Mike, I mean the area up there, we got
Speaker 3: to get you back up. Some interesting things happening. But
Speaker 3: what's happening in your neck of the woods since we've
Speaker 3: talked last, But out in the field, if you'd gotten
Speaker 3: any new sighting report, so what have you been up to?
Speaker 7: So you know, we ran into you guys quick Pennsylvania
Speaker 7: at Eric Altman's PA Bigfoot Camping Adventure. Met some great
Speaker 7: folks down there, some some new folks to the field.
Speaker 7: I know there's a couple of them listening tonight. We
Speaker 7: uh kind of went over some things, uh some sound
Speaker 7: stuff and this the sounds with folks, getting them interested,
Speaker 7: and I found a whole new sound database. You know,
Speaker 7: are I'm gonna I'm gonna do some selfish plugs. But
Speaker 7: the guys over at Foxbro gave me this great little
Speaker 7: squatch collar and I've been using it everywhere for my demos.
Speaker 7: So if you guys that saw it. But Foxbro has
Speaker 7: a great sound it's actually the Squatch set up. It's
Speaker 7: the Squatch Pro from Foxboro. But they've got a great
Speaker 7: sound library. So everybody that's been talking for years about
Speaker 7: what's hearing in the woods like that over and that's
Speaker 7: a new sound area. You know. I've pushed you know,
Speaker 7: some of the other sound apps like I Hunt calls
Speaker 7: and everything like that. But and that's great for your phone.
Speaker 7: It's just the fox Pro guys have really got a
Speaker 7: nice set of organic sounds stuff that's live from the
Speaker 7: field and pre programming. So if you're doing that kind
Speaker 7: of stuff, and they got some big foot stuff and
Speaker 7: the guys joke about it, and we you know, got
Speaker 7: to talk to them quite a bit when we were
Speaker 7: down there about some sound stuff. So new tech for me. Hey, Seth,
Speaker 7: that's up brother. You know it using that added another
Speaker 7: piece of tech too, Like I said, going to sounds again, Bake,
Speaker 7: I think you and Sean. I showed you this this
Speaker 7: bird weather puck another thing that I started using the
Speaker 7: week before we went down on it to Eric's event.
Speaker 7: It has two audio recorders built in sound and pressure.
Speaker 7: But the nice thing about it is there is a
Speaker 7: whole network worldwide with these things, and if they're live
Speaker 7: and they're public, you can go and look and see
Speaker 7: what they're listening. So it's not only birds. Assuming was
Speaker 7: originally this is you know, you guys know I've been
Speaker 7: pushing Merlin and you know bird dot net for years.
Speaker 7: This is that AI technology on steroids. It runs. I
Speaker 7: don't have to run off my phone. I can run
Speaker 7: on my computer and I can go pull my particular
Speaker 7: unit or other YouTube channels that are watching like all
Speaker 7: the bird the nesting things, you know, like you'd have
Speaker 7: cameraund like the big guy behind me or something like that,
Speaker 7: those sounds they're checking the AI and my particular unit
Speaker 7: I got a hold of the owner of the company
Speaker 7: and it's set up to look for woles and big
Speaker 7: cat kais dogs engine sounds. So now if we go
Speaker 7: up to the top of the mountain and it's got GPS,
Speaker 7: I can set that up there and let it record
Speaker 7: the entire time, and it's doing AI processing of those
Speaker 7: sounds that are out there. So now you know all
Speaker 7: the the owl sounds that we've heard for years and
Speaker 7: some of the other stuff. It'll give me the barometric
Speaker 7: pressure it'll give me the time stamp. It'll give me
Speaker 7: the audio so we can look visually and and and
Speaker 7: listen to it. And if there's other stuff in the background,
Speaker 7: you can hear that engine noise, that car coming through
Speaker 7: that overlap. You know, I'm still gonna run a regular recorder,
Speaker 7: but this thing is giving me a stamp so I
Speaker 7: can see those other things that are there. So like
Speaker 7: if i'm you guys know I'm running, we're in my
Speaker 7: hearing is If I don't have those in, you know,
Speaker 7: I miss some of those lower tones. All those wonderful
Speaker 7: years of diving and shooting, My brains aren't great anymore. Uh,
Speaker 7: And Christy, I know you're in the audience, and please
Speaker 7: don't feed on me too bad, my co host. You know.
Speaker 8: So, so does that run, whether it's connected the net
Speaker 8: or not.
Speaker 7: Is not independent, So it's got its own SD card
Speaker 7: and it is running, and as soon as it gets
Speaker 7: back on the Wi Fi, it uploads. But technology you.
Speaker 5: Were saying, like barometric pressures and things like that, I
Speaker 5: didn't know if it picked that off the web or
Speaker 5: if it picked it off because a lot of times
Speaker 5: we're in areas where there is no signal.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's sensors in here, but it well, yeah, you
Speaker 7: know that's one thing. Technology is a wonderful thing, folks,
Speaker 7: big thing I've been pushing. You know, you guys are
Speaker 7: asking me what I want to pushing the first aid,
Speaker 7: pushing the technology, haling that satellite communication device. When I
Speaker 7: did go up to this location that that Shawn and
Speaker 7: Matt are talking about, uh, they told me, yeah, we
Speaker 7: got great signal at the campsite.
Speaker 9: Mm hmm.
Speaker 7: And from the time I turned off the road till
Speaker 7: I don't know what it was about eighth of a mile. Well, yeah, no,
Speaker 7: I don't thin here in Banjos. It was either off
Speaker 7: the cliff or whatever. But I ended up having to
Speaker 7: use my my Fi, my mobile hotspot so I could
Speaker 7: transmit to Matt. And actually we're using Facebook to message.
Speaker 7: I couldn't even get the cell signal. I think I
Speaker 7: actually set a text message, you know, to some friends
Speaker 7: and family like if I don't come back from this,
Speaker 7: I do have my camping gear, and you know, I'm
Speaker 7: trying to text Alex and everybody else and They're like,
Speaker 7: we got a big fire. You could see us from
Speaker 7: the road, and I'm like, nope, nope, nope, but having that,
Speaker 7: I tear that technology with me so I can upload.
Speaker 7: I bought a micro computer so I can look at
Speaker 7: these things like the micro computers and Windows eleven computer
Speaker 7: no bigger than my phone, so I can look at
Speaker 7: all that data while I'm in the field. So technology
Speaker 7: has really become a big thing for getting that information
Speaker 7: out there. So it's it's one of those rock and
Speaker 7: things to make sure getting there. And technic, yeah, I
Speaker 7: have lots of technical difficulty difficulties. I can't talk half
Speaker 7: the time, but you guys know that. So so that's
Speaker 7: where run uh after p A ended up going up
Speaker 7: to Whitehall. And just before I went up to Whitehall,
Speaker 7: you know, we've talked about, you know, talking to witnesses
Speaker 7: and doing the paint sample thing, and Matt, you and
Speaker 7: I have talked about using it for law enforcement and everything. Wow,
Speaker 7: I've been so slow on these things, and there's a
Speaker 7: brand new project coming along. But as I got ready
Speaker 7: to go to Whitehall and I'm searching for stuff, now,
Speaker 7: I went and got wig hair samples, so now I
Speaker 7: can have the witness actually build the hair up. Well.
Speaker 7: Calls ended up wearing this at White Hall for a
Speaker 7: little bit, you know, put it over. But the other
Speaker 7: thing can it was it was like hearing you know,
Speaker 7: he's kind of wearing the back of his hat, you
Speaker 7: like a rat tail. You know, we're not gonna get
Speaker 7: into it, but uh, if you're talking to witnesses, you know,
Speaker 7: you again, like we said, go to the box store
Speaker 7: and get your paint sampled, you know, get your paint
Speaker 7: sample chart or your paint sample. But the other thing
Speaker 7: you can do is you can send somebody to the
Speaker 7: local box store or the local grocery store and if
Speaker 7: they're gonna go get their hair dye, you can find
Speaker 7: out what brand and what color hair dye it is.
Speaker 7: And most of that stuff again is going to be
Speaker 7: industry standard wise or niche and wide. You're gonna have
Speaker 7: that same color. So sending somebody out and the hair
Speaker 7: using the hair samples instead of the color charts, you know,
Speaker 7: they're they're actually seeing a physical hair. It's not just
Speaker 7: that color. So like these are all marked for different
Speaker 7: colors for picking these wigs out for this brand, So
Speaker 7: the same thing going to pull out and look at
Speaker 7: you know, Clail or Lorel's hair, hair colors or something
Speaker 7: like that. Or if you got a friend as a
Speaker 7: mutician that might have one of these you know wig
Speaker 7: sample things running around. If you're out talking to witnesses,
Speaker 7: it's great, and you know, that kind of came into Whitehall.
Speaker 7: I ended up talking to a witness who's a veterinarian
Speaker 7: that had another biologist in car, and they said, you know,
Speaker 7: we're out there, we saw everything. You know, I could
Speaker 7: see the gentleman was physically shaken. They had another family
Speaker 7: member that kind of pushed him up to tell his story,
Speaker 7: but that was out of Vermont, so I kind of
Speaker 7: referred him to Alex and Steve just because they're over
Speaker 7: into New Hampshire and you know, or eastern New York side.
Speaker 7: You know. So collecting the data has really begun a
Speaker 7: big push, and because of that, I reached out to
Speaker 7: Scott at Bigfoot Mapping Project and Scott is now going
Speaker 7: to add another layer to his questionnaire where you'll actually
Speaker 7: be able to go in and click on the hair colors.
Speaker 7: So we're just kind of developing that section of his
Speaker 7: website so you'll be able to go and put the
Speaker 7: put your sighting in and click on something. Because when
Speaker 7: we all look at colors, when we look at it
Speaker 7: different depends on our monitor settings or if we have
Speaker 7: a visual impairment, we're all gonna see colors different. So
Speaker 7: we're gonna see those browns different, those reds different. But
Speaker 7: having the ability for somebody to go in and say, hey,
Speaker 7: on my computer, in my you know, a friend person
Speaker 7: and we're doing things, we can go ahead and click
Speaker 7: on that. So in that witness sighting, it's no longer
Speaker 7: going to be just it was red or it was black,
Speaker 7: or it was you know, a cinnamon. And Pat, who's
Speaker 7: in the audience, we got to thank him. Pat was
Speaker 7: the first witness I talked to. He's the guy, first
Speaker 7: person I sent to to go get this. I mean,
Speaker 7: you got carried in there too. We're gonna give her
Speaker 7: another shout out. She is the first person to three
Speaker 7: D scan. So this whole thing about the three D scan.
Speaker 7: She called me one day and said, I don't have
Speaker 7: any casting material. I'm in you know, Massachusetts, I'm in
Speaker 7: the woods. I'm not near a hardware store. She's the
Speaker 7: first person I told the download the app and go
Speaker 7: ahead and three D scan. So that was the first scan.
Speaker 3: Was out there and Mike, that's what we had to do.
Speaker 3: We were caught with our pants down and no casting materials,
Speaker 3: and so we're like, you know what, let's three D
Speaker 3: scan this bitch. Let's go.
Speaker 7: And we did it, you know, and it's the networking,
Speaker 7: you know, finding the trackway Bill when we were at
Speaker 7: Monsterfest together. You know, I've been using a couple of
Speaker 7: different scanning things, Polycam and some of the others, and
Speaker 7: you got it care you know. He Bill shows up
Speaker 7: and he's got wide R on his phone and I
Speaker 7: hadn't used that app. I tell folks all the time
Speaker 7: depends on your phone. Go find a new app and
Speaker 7: communicate with everybody you're with that wide our app. I
Speaker 7: stood there as Eric sat there with his cast and
Speaker 7: I was able to freak hand it not putting it down.
Speaker 7: And the pictures we got. I watched him walk over
Speaker 7: and Dave Wickham had some stuff he three D scanned, nos,
Speaker 7: we did a whole bunch of other things, and they
Speaker 7: were just down in an area where Joe Schneider who
Speaker 7: passed away last year and went up on his anniversary.
Speaker 7: They got some scans. They're probably human footprints, but man,
Speaker 7: that's the scans using that wide ARC or absolutely amazing.
Speaker 7: So again, sharing that data is so so important. So yeah,
Speaker 7: we got up in the d around CKX, you know,
Speaker 7: looked around for a little bit, got to talk to
Speaker 7: some great witnesses about some stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: It's it's been a kind of a move around lately,
Speaker 7: and it's trying to put our friends together and collect
Speaker 7: data the best we can. You know, I talked to
Speaker 7: Darby Orcut from North Carolina State just before I got
Speaker 7: on the call with you guys. That information will be
Speaker 7: coming out soon. His his web hosting person or to
Speaker 7: server and everything. It was in you know, western North Carolina,
Speaker 7: so you know, prayers all those folks down there. He
Speaker 7: directly wasn't involved, but some of his tech was. So
Speaker 7: you know, our folks that are out there hunting in
Speaker 7: that area. You know, it's reaching out to those those
Speaker 7: folks that are that are friends that are they're there.
Speaker 7: So I mean just want to put a little quick
Speaker 7: shout out. You know, if you have bigfoot friends in
Speaker 7: this field, you know, and they know you're they're you know,
Speaker 7: kind of help them out a little bit. I mean
Speaker 7: that's kind of where things have been so well.
Speaker 3: You know, when it comes to networking, out if anybody
Speaker 3: does it better than you, Mike, and I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that because you're a guest. I'm saying it because I
Speaker 3: you know, I believe that firmly. You really do connect
Speaker 3: people and you connect resources quicker than anybody I know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And it really been a true kind of God send
Speaker 3: to Matt and I as we've really been putting some
Speaker 3: of this research endeavors together. So thank you for that.
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate you guys, you know. And you know
Speaker 7: the other thing I really been pushing with this this
Speaker 7: bigfoot thing, and it is the benefits of big footing.
Speaker 7: It's the friends we make, the folks that we meet
Speaker 7: across and when when stuff really falls apart, you know,
Speaker 7: it's those folks we go to. You know, Matt and
Speaker 7: I work in a field that occasionally we need to
Speaker 7: talk to somebody and we need to talk and do
Speaker 7: things outside of work.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I know there's a lot of people watching tonight that
Speaker 7: I've reached out to at different times that you know,
Speaker 7: and explain it. This is your way of getting out
Speaker 7: and you know, escaping your day to day. But you know,
Speaker 7: it's how I keep my skills up for work, you know.
Speaker 7: And I'm looking at the audience here right now, at
Speaker 7: least who I'm seeing who's comment in the chat. You know,
Speaker 7: we've got folks right now just pop down from the
Speaker 7: South Pacific, you know, and you guys should be talking
Speaker 7: to them soon. You know, Lisa and Juliet from down
Speaker 7: there in the South Pacific doing their investigations. Jen's on there,
Speaker 7: you know, in her connection and introducing me to Joe
Speaker 7: and Carrie, and Christie's on here. You know, it's we
Speaker 7: go through life, Paul that's on there. You know, Bigfoot
Speaker 7: got us out, got us healthy, got us hiking again.
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's one of those things that the
Speaker 7: topic is there for you guys that have had your
Speaker 7: witness sightings. You know, that's why I keep doing it,
Speaker 7: trying to find an answer to what you guys saw
Speaker 7: and if we can collect that data, that's that's the
Speaker 7: most amount of things. Natalie, it's in there from Florida.
Speaker 7: I mean, she found out firsthand. The community is there
Speaker 7: and we can we can help all of us together
Speaker 7: and stuff. You know, I'm going to give a shout
Speaker 7: out to people I know, because it's everybody I talk
Speaker 7: to on a daily basis that you guys to get
Speaker 7: spammed with all the memes that we get at three
Speaker 7: o'clock in the morning because I'm older. But the technology,
Speaker 7: you know, it's there, and if we can share that technology,
Speaker 7: we can you know, we can get stuff to pop through.
Speaker 7: Let's see see a little message in there. Patty's got
Speaker 7: some other sightings over there. And again where we're going,
Speaker 7: you know, for me to go to eastern New York
Speaker 7: to the ada Arondecks, the Hudson Valley and see those
Speaker 7: guys over there, come four hours down and see you guys.
Speaker 3: We have to ask this question from our our buddy.
Speaker 3: So shed some context on this for the listen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, let me get some apple cider here. And
Speaker 7: so I had the privilege during the pandemic to join
Speaker 7: Seth and Alex and the small Town Monsters Crew and
Speaker 7: Mark in the ad Aronducks to film on the trail
Speaker 7: of the Journey. And about four days before we got
Speaker 7: ready to leave, I found out I had a kidney stone,
Speaker 7: and not only one kidney stone, I had two kidney stones.
Speaker 7: So it gets better. So we go through, we're filming
Speaker 7: and Alex decides we're climbing a mountain. So I'm climbing
Speaker 7: a mountain and I am dying and I can't figure out.
Speaker 7: I'm like, I've had stones before. I'm not it's you know,
Speaker 7: we're gonna get through this or whatever and be able
Speaker 7: to try to pass the stone on the trail. And
Speaker 7: that didn't go so well. Well, come to find out,
Speaker 7: not only do I have the two kidney stones, but
Speaker 7: I had three hernias. Oh gos, So I'm tracking and
Speaker 7: you guys have been in the woods with Alex and
Speaker 7: these guys, you know, and he's like a mountain goat
Speaker 7: up the freaking mountain. Everybody else is up there. I
Speaker 7: got a freaking you know, fire sale going because my
Speaker 7: entire backpack popped open and I got stuff just falling,
Speaker 7: and I'm just dying. And Seth has a beautiful photo where,
Speaker 7: you know in video section where you know it's just like,
Speaker 7: you know, there's nothing like a pandemic to be the
Speaker 7: worst shape of your life. And he pans, and I
Speaker 7: don't think he knew at the time, but there's my
Speaker 7: overweight body at the time, trudging up this hill. And
Speaker 7: we get done with this hike. Yeah, we get done
Speaker 7: with this hike. And we go to dinner and he
Speaker 7: goes to his favorite burger joint, and what do I
Speaker 7: order I ordered chicken because I'm trying to be healthy
Speaker 7: myself and Andy Maski both ended up like food poisoning
Speaker 7: from the chicken. It was just the craziest. So my man,
Speaker 7: you know, he gave me a privilege of going there
Speaker 7: and getting to the top of Hadley Mountain and looking
Speaker 7: out and that view from Hadley is absolutely amazing. And
Speaker 7: you know, I made sure when I came back from Whitehall,
Speaker 7: which is a tough White Holl's a tough one for
Speaker 7: me because last year I lost my mom. As I
Speaker 7: was leaving for Whitehall. I I got the message she
Speaker 7: was in the hostle. And at that same time, we
Speaker 7: had Joe Schneider, who I've been out with up here
Speaker 7: doing uh you know that I met at Whitehall and
Speaker 7: Joe was he was diagnosed with answer two weeks after
Speaker 7: the last time I talked to my mom was go
Speaker 7: house and it was still on his still telling me
Speaker 7: he saw something. And I actually went with his wife
Speaker 7: the other day to scatter. So again, the connections we
Speaker 7: have in this community is there. Yeah, Christie, You're right,
Speaker 7: And yeah, I stopped in the middle of the filming
Speaker 7: to come off the mountain to do our show and
Speaker 7: to go back up to the mountain with Steve and
Speaker 7: those guys, and it's again, you know, well I'm just
Speaker 7: gonna truck through if if I got to be there.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that I passed the two stones, got the
Speaker 7: hernie us back and get back in the woods.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: And it's it's it's one of those things, you know,
Speaker 7: it's it's just crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a story, man, It's it's it's there.
Speaker 7: It just seems like every time I'm with those guys,
Speaker 7: it's like, oh God, what next, you know, m hm.
Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, it's it's it's crazy. But again,
Speaker 7: no here for state folks know you're who to call
Speaker 7: and know where you in years hospital is. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's it's all you know how to cook when you're
Speaker 7: in the woods.
Speaker 3: It's become a big thing, Mike, and I know it's uh,
Speaker 3: the passion on that has grown tremendously, especially from you
Speaker 3: and Matt and our buddy Larry Beans Baxter. You know,
Speaker 3: we're putting together a little thing for the listeners eventually
Speaker 3: at some point the residual this year for safety and
Speaker 3: I think we need to spend more time not just
Speaker 3: the scary bigfoot stories that everybody wants to hear about
Speaker 3: when they listen to a podcast, but the real inherent
Speaker 3: dangers and the real what you need to do in
Speaker 3: case of stories or situations when when they happen, Like
Speaker 3: we want folks to be prepared, Mike, when they're out
Speaker 3: in the woods preparing to take on some of these endeavors.
Speaker 3: It seems easy in theory, right.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean the thing is, I've got stuff spread
Speaker 7: all over like I always do because I'm not in
Speaker 7: my studio, moved into the spare rooms to the dog
Speaker 7: can be running around. But you know your first aid
Speaker 7: kit has everything you need to go ahead and start
Speaker 7: your your stuff. I mean, you know me, guys, I
Speaker 7: always come prepared with something. But you know in your
Speaker 7: first aid kit you've got your gloves, You've got a mask, probably,
Speaker 7: you've got your tweezers. You know those things that you
Speaker 7: need to start your your collection stuff is already in
Speaker 7: your first aid kit. You know, you guys have seen
Speaker 7: me in past shows talk about the flat evidence flags.
Speaker 7: Matt's talked about evidence flags and how we collect things.
Speaker 7: You have your tongue depressure in there that you're gonna
Speaker 7: be able to use to turn around and support yourself.
Speaker 7: But you can take the white tape medical tape in
Speaker 7: there and make little evidence flags to mark out that evidence.
Speaker 7: You're gonna need the pair acord, so put the pair
Speaker 7: of cord in there. It's cordage that you're gonna need
Speaker 7: to tie stuff up. It's gonna allow you to do
Speaker 7: that circle search, to get out there and keep moving
Speaker 7: that stuff around. So that first aid kit, it's it's
Speaker 7: already there. You're already gonna you know, as Elton Brown's
Speaker 7: Food Network says, you don't want a unit tasker. You
Speaker 7: want stuff that's going to help you when you're out there,
Speaker 7: you know. And that's yours of doing that search and
Speaker 7: recovery stuff from working underwater and like, hey, here we
Speaker 7: put a name on a rock, throw it in the
Speaker 7: lake and go find it, you know. And I still
Speaker 7: to this day, I don't know how the instructors got
Speaker 7: us to do it, but go out and do circle
Speaker 7: search patterns underwater and zero visibility, and here's the rock,
Speaker 7: you know, with your smiley face on it. You know,
Speaker 7: it's it's the craziest thing is to go.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I can't stress the importance of being prepared enough. And
Speaker 3: usually what happens when you run into an incident. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you aren't prepared, yes.
Speaker 7: Right, I mean little things like well like me like
Speaker 7: popping my camera, you know, having a tracking guide or
Speaker 7: having you know I had the other one up here.
Speaker 7: Yeah it is, you know, the trees and the plant ones.
Speaker 7: You know, of course I'm green screen in, so let
Speaker 7: me do it in your friend. You know no one
Speaker 7: what plants are out there if you need to eat.
Speaker 7: You know enough friends over their years that have been
Speaker 7: on naked and fraid and stuff. And you guys know
Speaker 7: I hang out with that crow of wonderful folks.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna die if I have to eat in the woods.
Speaker 3: I am so mad at a plant identification. Even when
Speaker 3: I try, Mike, I'm just awful with it. You could
Speaker 3: just kick me in the head as I get close
Speaker 3: to that mushroom fork.
Speaker 5: No boom, I find that one mushroom that will feed
Speaker 5: me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I mean, yeah eight there. You know, I
Speaker 7: got my thousand calories in. But you know, you know
Speaker 7: there's I think there's a great uh survivor man with
Speaker 7: lester out eating like one of the I think it
Speaker 7: was like a beach nutt and on a beach nut,
Speaker 7: but it's a beetlenut or something like that. And next
Speaker 7: you know, he's puking and hallucinating, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 7: that's what I want in the woods, you know. You know,
Speaker 7: I have a friend that spent twenty two days, you know,
Speaker 7: in the Ecuadorian jungle because he got separated from his
Speaker 7: military unit, you know, and listening to him talk about surviving,
Speaker 7: you know, in the Amazon, you know, with botflies, eating stuff,
Speaker 7: you know, crunching on his head while he's in the woods,
Speaker 7: and Ray's story is awesome because you guys want to
Speaker 7: talk about Mopingwari and stuff like that. He and the
Speaker 7: guys in his unit had a mapping Guary sighting and
Speaker 7: I've talked to those guys, but you know, being able
Speaker 7: to survive Mopingary the South American Bigfoot. Oh so they
Speaker 7: had they had a run in in South America, you know,
Speaker 7: years ago. So I've talked to three people from the
Speaker 7: unit and they've all confirmed their story and everything like that.
Speaker 3: So Mike gets around folks, he gets the stories, he
Speaker 3: shares the infl with us. He does. We got a
Speaker 3: couple of sightings, Mike, I'm trying to right now. I
Speaker 3: did a presentation last week and a little presentation in Katawissa, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: in Colombia County where we've had some activity in the past,
Speaker 3: and one of the guys in the audience was a
Speaker 3: state trooper, but he wouldn't get up and share his story.
Speaker 3: In fact, it was put together by the magistrate magistrate
Speaker 3: judge who asked me to come and speak at this
Speaker 3: event because he liked my presentation and at Gwen's event
Speaker 3: and Ilisburg, so I said, yeah, I'll come out and
Speaker 3: do it. And he was hoping the guy would come
Speaker 3: up and tell his story. He didn't tell his story,
Speaker 3: so we're still trying to get him. And what I'm
Speaker 3: thinking is if he may not want to tell it
Speaker 3: in a large group setting, but if I got maybe
Speaker 3: you and Matt around, he might be a little bit
Speaker 3: more comfortable, like, Hey, these guys are legit and what
Speaker 3: they do. You know, they may take me a little
Speaker 3: bit more seriously. So that's where you know, folks, Again,
Speaker 3: I'll go off in a tangent. Having people of various
Speaker 3: backgrounds in your research network really help. It makes a
Speaker 3: big difference. Some people are just comfortable talking to people
Speaker 3: of similar backgrounds. It just it happens, especially when you
Speaker 3: into the professional the professional fields, right.
Speaker 7: You know, you guys are making a point there is
Speaker 7: that people from all different backgrounds are so important for
Speaker 7: this field. You know, we've had you know a lot
Speaker 7: of conversations offline and stuff like that, and at different
Speaker 7: conferences and we're dinner and stuff, and that artist is
Speaker 7: going to show us the panetones. They're going to be
Speaker 7: able to tell you the color, the hair flow. You're
Speaker 7: going to talk to again, the beautician is going to
Speaker 7: be able to say, well, it was a fine here,
Speaker 7: it was a kinky hair. That's what I want to hear.
Speaker 7: I want to talk to that newspaper person or that
Speaker 7: that sanitation worker at three o'clock in the morning that's
Speaker 7: out because they know it's there. That cop going for
Speaker 7: his don't it at four o'clock in the morning, because
Speaker 7: that's the only thing that's still open. You know, they're
Speaker 7: seeing something. But everybody has something to give to us.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I want to learn electronics. I'm going to go find
Speaker 7: somebody with an engineering or like tronics background, because I
Speaker 7: can think about it, I can't build it. I can't
Speaker 7: you know, I'm want to find somebody that's going to
Speaker 7: help me put that technology together. Is it, you know,
Speaker 7: streaming a thermal camera for twenty four to seven which
Speaker 7: I have figured out how to do that now, or
Speaker 7: get that data and share that data. You know, that's
Speaker 7: the most important thing. Finding somebody like Scott with Bigfoot
Speaker 7: mapping that that does gis for a living, so it
Speaker 7: puts a map together. We have a map together. I mean,
Speaker 7: I've used that Bigfoot mapping project where Google Earth hasn't worked.
Speaker 7: You know, That's that's where it's got to be. Where
Speaker 7: we got to go.
Speaker 3: So well, and that network's growing and I have, you know,
Speaker 3: not to put a teaser out there for folks, but
Speaker 3: I've got a first round of info from a specialist
Speaker 3: who works in the intelligence field about some of the
Speaker 3: preliminary data we've sent him. So I'm excited to see
Speaker 3: what this is going to entail and where we move
Speaker 3: on from a stack one. And I'm sure you'll be
Speaker 3: really interested in it as well, Mike. We'll put together
Speaker 3: a conference call later on and go over it. There's
Speaker 3: some interesting things there. We don't want to put it
Speaker 3: all out there because like I said, every week we
Speaker 3: do a show we put the Master's class to had
Speaker 3: a hoax out there, you know, folks listening, and it's
Speaker 3: just collateral damage to what we do. Wanted to go
Speaker 3: out and talk about Bigfoot, you know, every time we
Speaker 3: talk about it, we make it easier for folks to
Speaker 3: go out and try to pull the wolves over us. However,
Speaker 3: you know, the situations some of us are getting really
Speaker 3: good when the bullshit detectors are pretty high.
Speaker 7: The thing is, you guys have been around a lot
Speaker 7: longer than I have on this, you know, and you
Speaker 7: guys have seen and I know there's a lot of
Speaker 7: new folks listening tonight, is you guys have seen the
Speaker 7: videos and the pictures that have been around for years
Speaker 7: that do that seven year cycle, you know. And now
Speaker 7: we're going to add AI on things, and you know
Speaker 7: what is that doing. All that is doing is going
Speaker 7: out and data mining, you know, that information that's already
Speaker 7: out there. And so yeah, we're going to start seeing
Speaker 7: a lot of that thing that's there. And you know,
Speaker 7: the YouTube channels are kind of cut back a little bit,
Speaker 7: you know, since the pandemic and everybody's gone back to work,
Speaker 7: but there's still that recycle with you know, the moderetization
Speaker 7: on TikTok and some of the other things to get
Speaker 7: those hits. But folks got to come to you guys,
Speaker 7: you know, Bay, Henry and and and Sean that you
Speaker 7: guys have been looking at the stuff a long time.
Speaker 7: You know, it's reaching out the colzy because the guys
Speaker 7: that you guys have been around for a long time
Speaker 7: being a member in Estra and talking to those old
Speaker 7: members and stuff like that. I got it with Davidcalla
Speaker 7: there Whitehall and yeah, but you know those are the
Speaker 7: guys I got to go out in the woods first.
Speaker 7: You know, folks have been doing it for a very
Speaker 7: long time, you know, and it's there's the new stuff
Speaker 7: is out there, the technology is there. But you guys
Speaker 7: are my you know, my go to when I need things,
Speaker 7: you know, and you know, if I need news articles
Speaker 7: or something, I'm going to the Sassy and near Carrie
Speaker 7: to because she's got her background, you know as a
Speaker 7: library and you know he knows how to search that
Speaker 7: data where you know, I can break things.
Speaker 3: Like I said, oh, it's amazing some of the recall
Speaker 3: though I was with Stan Gordon a couple of weekends
Speaker 3: ago now and we're sitting around shooting the shed, having
Speaker 3: a conversation about some things and just stops before you
Speaker 3: got that half right, and then he starts going into
Speaker 3: the story again like he can instant recall in his
Speaker 3: mind that like Henry Ken, just an instant recall of
Speaker 3: the that report, of that story, and he just and folks,
Speaker 3: I don't mind getting the record set straight for me
Speaker 3: by Stan Gordon. That's a privilege.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm getting to hang out with Stan Gordon all weekend.
Speaker 3: And he told me I'm wrong. I'm gonna love every
Speaker 3: minute of it, uh, because because it's important, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's important to be right in those situations. And
Speaker 3: you know, he shed more actually in that conversation, he
Speaker 3: shed more light on the one report than I ever
Speaker 3: actually knew uh beforehand. And then ironically, as I'm doing
Speaker 3: that report in Katawissa, I talked to another person who
Speaker 3: was involved in the same damn sighting, so you can
Speaker 3: talk about that activity and how it happens. It's so bizarre.
Speaker 7: That's I want to see Sean, Henry, Stan and Paul
Speaker 7: Bartholomew together and.
Speaker 3: That's my brain power for one TV show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I've been in I've been you know I've
Speaker 7: been in the presence of two of them, Henry, you
Speaker 7: and I haven't been able to sit in the same
Speaker 7: room yet, but I mean library, you know, I've managed
Speaker 7: to look at Prince with Stan you know, live in
Speaker 7: the field. It's I want to see you guys. You
Speaker 7: know that's something in you know, the two cops and
Speaker 7: will grab Larry and we'll sit back and bang her head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, listen, I just bring it all together,
Speaker 3: that's all. That's what I love. I facilitate these guys,
Speaker 3: I can. I'm just a fly on the wall then
Speaker 3: when that happens. But I'll ask questions like I love
Speaker 3: to get these guys pumped up full of questions. I mean,
Speaker 3: and we've had some great adventures because of that. And
Speaker 3: that's what it's about. Somebody asked me last week, like,
Speaker 3: you've spent thirty years of your life doing this. Why,
Speaker 3: I just how I just wonder how much less my
Speaker 3: life would be if I didn't end up in this somehow,
Speaker 3: Like I've learned so much about people, I've learned so
Speaker 3: much about the wilderness. I've learned so much about myself
Speaker 3: and my own capabilities, and it broughts me and connections with,
Speaker 3: you know, people that I'm glad that I got involved
Speaker 3: in this research and it's it's been a hell of
Speaker 3: a ride. And Baker I have to remind him. He's
Speaker 3: always like, oh, I've been this nearly as long. You
Speaker 3: realize you've been doing this for almost twenty years now, JB. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you got to make a decision here. Rather you're going
Speaker 3: to be a skeptic a believer, you got to share
Speaker 3: it off the plot.
Speaker 4: Man, I haven't seen anything.
Speaker 5: The problem is that everything I see is second hand.
Speaker 5: And it's not that I don't believe. I believe in
Speaker 5: the stories of certain people that link with the evidence.
Speaker 5: And you know, you made a point about AI and
Speaker 5: I was watching Star Talk the other day and Neil
Speaker 5: de Grasse Tyson said, AI is going to get to
Speaker 5: a point where it's going to be so believable that
Speaker 5: even the person that believes exactly what they see in here.
Speaker 4: Will not believe it and start doing their own research.
Speaker 4: So I think AI, it might not be right away,
Speaker 4: but eventually it's going to burn itself out because people
Speaker 4: are going to be like, this is so ridiculously perfect,
Speaker 4: there's no way it's true. And then then read a book,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's where I think.
Speaker 8: You know, if you think about it, is like in
Speaker 8: the eighties and in the eighties to the two thousand,
Speaker 8: where after the Patti film had gone through and everybody
Speaker 8: was like making their own movies and whatever.
Speaker 4: The people that believe, the people that like were like, well,
Speaker 4: I see it.
Speaker 10: This is this has got to be bs you know,
Speaker 10: started to read about it and started to realize these things,
Speaker 10: and started to go to OBC and started to go
Speaker 10: to all these places.
Speaker 4: In a way, bad videos made Bigfoot more popular.
Speaker 5: I mean, we laugh at Jack Link's jerky, but it
Speaker 5: puts bucks in the seats.
Speaker 3: You know, had that same conversation. Even shows that we
Speaker 3: might not all find desirable, they get people interested in
Speaker 3: because of that give them an outlet to feel like
Speaker 3: they can report because here's the big powers, here's the formula.
Speaker 3: Without people being involved and people having sightings, there's no Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Like we need these sightings to come to us so
Speaker 3: we can collect the data so we can be more
Speaker 3: efficient with our time, our energy, our money. None of
Speaker 3: us are getting funding for this as all comes out
Speaker 3: of our own pocket. So the better the witness encounter,
Speaker 3: the more we can actually you know, use that collective
Speaker 3: data to to be smarter in deployment. And that's what
Speaker 3: my ultimate goal is right now. Met Mike, You've got
Speaker 3: you know, partnered with Scott from the Mapping project and
Speaker 3: you know we're working with our friend that is I
Speaker 3: think soon to be retiring from the intelligence agencies. Like,
Speaker 3: it's all about deployment. It's all about getting data so
Speaker 3: we know, looking at it and so he can put
Speaker 3: us in the position it says, Okay, Matt, Okay, Sean, Okay, Mike,
Speaker 3: this is where you need to be based upon what
Speaker 3: the evidence is telling us now, like you have your
Speaker 3: greatest opportunity to get a siting or to have some
Speaker 3: sort of evidence collection at this time. That's that's my
Speaker 3: total focus right now is collecting this information to get
Speaker 3: it to people that can do something with it. And Matt,
Speaker 3: how long have I been on that. I've been on
Speaker 3: that project for since twenty twelve is when I started that. Yep.
Speaker 3: He just Mike, you know, just happens to be able
Speaker 3: to appoint me in direction with people that better at
Speaker 3: it than I am, And that's what I want. I'm
Speaker 3: not the smartest guy in the room. I'm good at
Speaker 3: rubbing elbows with the smartest guys in the room.
Speaker 7: I just know not to shut up. I mean, that's
Speaker 7: that's my you know, Or is Jens busting my chops
Speaker 7: of all my Cookies's probably my cookies and camp you know,
Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys. I baked some of
Speaker 7: those off in Ohio. And oh and I always in
Speaker 7: front of calls. I'm always cooking these great oms, makes
Speaker 7: these omes meals, makes these great sugar and chocolate chip cookies,
Speaker 7: and bake right in. There's a nice hot when you're
Speaker 7: out there. Chocolate chip right, Oh yeah, the chocolate chip.
Speaker 7: And then they got sugar ones too, but yeah, and
Speaker 7: two of them's perfect to open up. So again we
Speaker 7: go back to the bait thing. You know who you're
Speaker 7: gonna leave his bait? You know we're gonna you know,
Speaker 7: are you gonna make it the old pork chopped necklaces,
Speaker 7: you know, or Chuck's chili.
Speaker 3: When you're out there, Oh, Chuck's chili.
Speaker 7: Yeah again. Things you learn in the woods. You know,
Speaker 7: a couple of a couple of bottles of sauce of
Speaker 7: some ground beef, and you got some of up and
Speaker 7: couple of cans of beans, got some of the best chili,
Speaker 7: all those seasonings. Again, that out there, you're bringing animals in,
Speaker 7: You're bringing other squatchers in. You know, a lot better
Speaker 7: than those pheromones ships that Doug put together years ago.
Speaker 3: From my god, I'll never get that smell out of
Speaker 3: my nose ever.
Speaker 7: Oh man. We had some from the original Monster quests
Speaker 7: like four years ago, were up in the Adirondecks and
Speaker 7: somebody pulled some of those out. I didn't even touch them,
Speaker 7: and I still had to stink on me for like
Speaker 7: four hours home when I got out, and it was just, oh,
Speaker 7: my god, the most disgusting, nasty.
Speaker 3: Yes, I never wanted to touch one because once Eric said, hey,
Speaker 3: fork or smell this, and I stuck my nose right
Speaker 3: over the I to this day, I still get a
Speaker 3: whiff of it. I think it was. Oh, it was awful.
Speaker 7: Alex had some of the new ones. I think he had,
Speaker 7: like one or two were in Florida one year, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, was it was bad, but not like
Speaker 7: those ones have been sitting around for the last you know,
Speaker 7: twenty years.
Speaker 3: Doctor Bambine's special juice juice sticks or whatever they were chips, the.
Speaker 7: Chips, the chips, orange chips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a good time, folks, not a good time
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 7: But you know, then again, you know cooking everybody, it's
Speaker 7: just great. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Yeah, I had I
Speaker 7: had a quick question.
Speaker 6: Now, what kind of equipment as far as for a
Speaker 6: recording you use in the field.
Speaker 7: So I'm running the I'm running the puck. I've got
Speaker 7: to thermal cam two ATM thermal cameras that I run
Speaker 7: that take still and video. They're kind of working at
Speaker 7: like the seven to twenty range with the thermal. I
Speaker 7: got one of the six forty units in a three
Speaker 7: forty unit. I've also got to.
Speaker 3: What's the cost on the puck?
Speaker 7: Uh, it's like to something and it's I love it
Speaker 7: because you can it doesn't just have to going to stand.
Speaker 7: They got a backpack for it, so locks right in
Speaker 7: the back of the backpack. I've got a couple of
Speaker 7: Sony small Sony recorders. I had a cassette recorder, but
Speaker 7: I gave it to Eli and Alex to decipher some
Speaker 7: some of Paul bar found use the old tapes, but
Speaker 7: I don't think they could figure out how to use
Speaker 7: a cassette recorder because you know, they were born before
Speaker 7: they stopped using them. You know, the rest of us
Speaker 7: know what they were.
Speaker 3: But that's something that's starting to pop up now. And
Speaker 3: not to jump off onto a whole other subject as
Speaker 3: the discussion. We've had this discussion before, but other people
Speaker 3: are starting to have the discussion. Now, do you think
Speaker 3: that there's something that analog catches that digital doesn't.
Speaker 7: Is it that? And is it some of the technology.
Speaker 7: So yeah, going to the old you know, graass sales
Speaker 7: and see if you can find an old tape recorder
Speaker 7: because even some of the new stuff has got you know,
Speaker 7: some you guys would know better working in the tech
Speaker 7: industry that you know what's out there, but buying a
Speaker 7: cheap recorder. And I had this talk with with Ron,
Speaker 7: with Bron moorehead about you know what did they use.
Speaker 7: I mean that was old tape that they got those
Speaker 7: recording on. It wasn't digital. You know, even you know,
Speaker 7: talking with with Tim Shaw, a big paranormal guy. You know,
Speaker 7: some of the recorders that he has or some of
Speaker 7: those old Sony's and stuff like that, you know that
Speaker 7: are coveted because they don't have the filters that are
Speaker 7: on there when you get some of the good you know,
Speaker 7: new you know, digital recorders. They're there to pick up
Speaker 7: our voices and not all the other things except for cicadas.
Speaker 7: They will filter cicadas, you know, it's the only thing
Speaker 7: I think they filter. But yeah, I mean throwing a
Speaker 7: good old fashioned memorys tape like you were making an
Speaker 7: eighties you know, high school tape or whatever, you know,
Speaker 7: your your party mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 7: That's just it. You've got it. I mean it's probably
Speaker 7: gonna be like if you're rerecording over and over again
Speaker 7: like your VHS tapes. But again, what are you picking
Speaker 7: up on? That is? And I still live. Listen where
Speaker 7: I'm putting a recorder in, I'm running. I have two
Speaker 7: of the small Sony speakers that go out either side
Speaker 7: of my recorder, and then I'll run my headsets, not
Speaker 7: so much now that I'm wearing usually wearing my hearing
Speaker 7: like heavy duty hearing aids I bought, like hunting ones
Speaker 7: or something like that. Jen's right, the kiss kiss methods.
Speaker 7: Keeping stupid is the way to go. So do you
Speaker 7: think some.
Speaker 4: Of it has to do with the wave form that
Speaker 4: it records on. I mean, digital is the square wave
Speaker 4: compared to just a wave for analog.
Speaker 5: And I always thought when they condensed the wave, it
Speaker 5: always you always lose.
Speaker 4: Some signal, Like, for instance, MP three's are great, CD's okay,
Speaker 4: A cassette's pretty good. But if you hear it on
Speaker 4: a record a lot of times, that record has the
Speaker 4: best possible sound, then all three of them put together
Speaker 4: because of just the way that it produces the sound.
Speaker 7: You're gonna make me spend money. Christen's sister just came
Speaker 7: out with their fortieth anniversary is Stay Hungry on vinyl.
Speaker 7: I might have to go find a you know, I
Speaker 7: know it's completely off topic, but like three times today
Speaker 7: I've seen that record come back up again, and I'm like,
Speaker 7: that was the first cassette I ever bought because.
Speaker 10: You're mentioned in front of Alexa, didn't you.
Speaker 7: No, No, I happen to like it, and those guys
Speaker 7: liked it back today. But but again you're right, I mean,
Speaker 7: is that the way to go, getting an old phonograph
Speaker 7: and putting that old cylinder out there and see what
Speaker 7: you pick up, you know, put.
Speaker 4: The way the waveform works.
Speaker 8: The thing is is like analog might be adequated, but
Speaker 8: the fact is is, like I used to sell cell
Speaker 8: phones when cell phones were bagphones, and part of the
Speaker 8: reason why the.
Speaker 4: Bag phone worked was because of the way the signal
Speaker 4: and the towers work. Our new phones are great, don't
Speaker 4: get me wrong, they do all kinds of happy stuff,
Speaker 4: but the towers have to be closer now because the
Speaker 4: signal doesn't move as quickly, right, you know, like Motorola
Speaker 4: Motorola walkie talkies.
Speaker 5: Really, honestly, the only thing slowed him down was the
Speaker 5: curvature of the earth. Yeah, I know, shit, sorry, you know.
Speaker 7: But like you know, like this is why we need
Speaker 7: your background or somebody else's background. It has it. Again,
Speaker 7: I'm a generalist. I try to pick up as much
Speaker 7: as I can and try not to buy forty seven
Speaker 7: things to find out. But now you're buying this phonogra
Speaker 7: thing was the way to go. Yeah, but but again,
Speaker 7: buying a photograph of buying and buying that old crank
Speaker 7: you know would wax you know, yeah, old.
Speaker 4: Sister would be worth it.
Speaker 7: Yeah. But what I'm just saying, it's what do we
Speaker 7: have here? You know, you know, I know Larsen's in
Speaker 7: the audience from from Central Florida. Bigfoot, I mean, Matt
Speaker 7: is an old film guy, you know, and you know
Speaker 7: Jen's putting that up there is you know, why haven't
Speaker 7: we got some things? You know? Why are those old things?
Speaker 7: I mean I'm in kodak Ville. I mean Kodak and Xerox, bouch,
Speaker 7: those companies were in my hometown. I mean that that
Speaker 7: old technology. You know, what are we getting? You know
Speaker 7: how many times I've told everybody you go from your
Speaker 7: color and switch it to a negative. What are you
Speaker 7: seeing on the backside? You know, we've we've got some
Speaker 7: things there. What colors are again, We're going back into colors,
Speaker 7: but we need somebody that's a color specialist to look
Speaker 7: at things because our human eye sees different things and
Speaker 7: different set up. What are we hearing in the sound
Speaker 7: thing as well? I mean just talking with my you
Speaker 7: know now I have to use artificial hearing to help
Speaker 7: me a lot of times. What are my settings at?
Speaker 7: What was the audiologist going to put something in? I
Speaker 7: may not be hearing what you're hearing.
Speaker 3: Well, it happens because all those years of damn right,
Speaker 3: it happens all the time we're out in the woods.
Speaker 3: Hey did you hear that well? No, I didn't hear
Speaker 3: that well. I'm not crazy. Well, no, you just don't
Speaker 3: hear the same frequency I hear. You know, it's it's
Speaker 3: all about you know, identification, honing in and you know,
Speaker 3: and again did.
Speaker 7: The TV shows do they hear anything? And oh do
Speaker 7: you hear that on TV? Well, no, they're using a
Speaker 7: microphone to pick up your voice because it doesn't make
Speaker 7: good TV if all you got is cracking rocks and
Speaker 7: stones and stuff and brush, you know. And how is
Speaker 7: that little squirrel sounds like a tractor trailer instead of
Speaker 7: that bear that you don't hear sneaking up on you
Speaker 7: in the woods. I'll shut up for a minute.
Speaker 5: Sorry, you're good, right, But that's tr takes a.
Speaker 4: Lot of valid points.
Speaker 5: And like I've always said, with technology is not always
Speaker 5: getting the new stuff makes it better, you know, because
Speaker 5: like you have a lot of you have a lot
Speaker 5: of situations where you know, sometimes a cheap piece of
Speaker 5: technology will work way better than something. And like I
Speaker 5: asked you about the item you had, I said, do
Speaker 5: you need the Internet to use it? Because honestly, some
Speaker 5: of these areas the internet doesn't work. You can have
Speaker 5: the greatest program on the planet, you know that stands everything.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what the dirt composition. And sure,
Speaker 4: if you're connected to the web, you know, otherwise it's
Speaker 4: a rock, you know.
Speaker 3: Mike having flashlights, there's one right here.
Speaker 7: There, there might be another one over here. I have
Speaker 7: lost count on how many flashlights I have. There's probably
Speaker 7: seven UV lights in my car at one time. There
Speaker 7: definitely to that do multi frequency red green white, UVY
Speaker 7: headlamps that do red green, u V blue. So yeah,
Speaker 7: there's I yeah, uh in my view right now, there's
Speaker 7: five flashlights. Where I'm sitting in this room, there's probably
Speaker 7: another five.
Speaker 3: You know, there's four lights. There are four lights, four lights,
Speaker 3: so Star Trek, right, Jennifer, I'm just I'm just talking
Speaker 3: flashlights that I can see just by picking my That
Speaker 3: was a nerd moment from Baker there, Mike.
Speaker 5: Anytimes somebody tells me there's five lights, I always go,
Speaker 5: there's four lights, four lights because the card and then
Speaker 5: he kept saying, you know, I'll let you have some
Speaker 5: water and you'll go movie.
Speaker 4: Just tell me how many lights are? Like four lights?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Anyhow, guys, we've reached that point of the show where
Speaker 3: we have to say goodbye to this week and went
Speaker 3: by quick and we didn't even have a big footballhorn.
Speaker 3: Because Vance folks has sent some good thoughts Vance as well.
Speaker 3: He's got some family stuff going on. Won't get too personal,
Speaker 3: but just send good wishes Vance Way and hope everything's
Speaker 3: going okay for our brother there. We'll have a show
Speaker 3: again in two weeks. Guests to be determined as we
Speaker 3: get closer. But Mike, thanks for taking the time and
Speaker 3: jumping on with us. We really appreciate him, and it's
Speaker 3: always good.
Speaker 7: To see you guys.
Speaker 5: You're ever at a conference and need a cable, Mike
Speaker 5: probably hasn't.
Speaker 7: That has happened a few.
Speaker 3: Times, that has happened to me, Bush pins or Mike's
Speaker 3: usually the guy that bails you out. Baker, you had
Speaker 3: a pretty good uh post you made today and I'll
Speaker 3: share it with everybody. It was kind of inspirational. It says,
Speaker 3: do crackheads say I can't get high today because I'm broke. No,
Speaker 3: they make it happen. Don't let it backhead, hustle harder
Speaker 3: than you. And that's Baker's wisdom. I think I stole
Speaker 3: that from Amy Booker's wisdom for this.
Speaker 7: Don't let anybody said anybody see Amy's live just before
Speaker 7: I totally would with Adam.
Speaker 3: No, no, I missed it.
Speaker 7: We'll go go watch it. You will be tortured for
Speaker 7: the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: But watch it after this, Henry take us out, No Baker, Hey, hey, you.
Speaker 4: Never get to see the sights and let you ask.
Speaker 3: All right, you know, Henry, good night, everybody.
Speaker 7: I gotta go. You'll be gonna be good, all right.
Speaker 3: Next time.
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