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Speaker 2: Hello wrestling fans, you're listening to Wrestling Coast to Coast,

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the Man, the Myth, The McClelland Justin McClellan. Justin, how

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you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, Chris.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing okay? Here in the are we

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in the dog? I'm used to the dog days of

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summer being all August, but it's so hot now.

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Speaker 3: Also, kids go back to school in August now, so

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I feel like everything got pushed back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well for me, I'm used to growing. Yeah, don't

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them not being pushed back and being pushed forward. There

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they're voting on whether they want to keep daylight Saving time.

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to abolish daylight Savings.

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Speaker 3: Time, so we would stick with winter hours.

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Speaker 4: Forever, basically in November.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically in November, like right now the clock

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is supposed to go back November first.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, summer nights, like really late summer nights.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have winter the I think the sun when

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a rise like nine in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think people realize have thought

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this through. Like I don't like the light savings time either,

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but like if you don't do it, you know, you'll

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have like like you said, like the sun either either

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the sun rise at nine or it'll set it you know, five,

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or it'll rise to like I guess it'll rise at

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like five in the summer in Ohio. I know you're

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from New York where I remember always watching like The

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Late Show with David Lehman, you know, and they would

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tape it at like four or something. In the winter time,

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it'd be like pitch blackout if you would go outside,

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because New York's at the other end of the time,

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you know, the same time zone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what it would be. It'd

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be similar to it'd be like an hour or so different.

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But apparently I learned this that they tried this in

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the seventies and people hated it and it didn't work. Oh,

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I didn't know that, so we'll see. I mean, I

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think I think mentally what people think about is the

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fact that mentally, I don't think people like coming out

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of like it in the winter, it being like dark

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at like four point thirty in the afternoon, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I hate it, and it is like that hour.

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you know, to the new time, at least me.

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Speaker 2: For me, the hardest part about daylight saving time is

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it changes my schedule when I watch games, typically games

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around ten am Eastern, but they don't do daylight saving time,

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so then it's eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: I thought your Europe doesn't change the clocks.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe. No, at least doesn't. Yeah, okay, so

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messes up my cadence. Very very unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: I know, I get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're used to something, you want to

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stick with it. And sometimes all right, then we want

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to see in the same place. But as we've learned

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doing this show restling Coast to Coast that at least

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in the vein of streaming services, that doesn't always isn't

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always the case. We forgot to mention this last week,

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but another streaming service has a left officially left Triller

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and that was howse of Glory had their last show there,

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and they mentioned that their next show, which is on

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the plan of a lot of other independent shows and

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they're going to YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Is there any any interesting matches signed.

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Speaker 2: For High Into announced Shana Basler will be wrestling shat

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C Blackheart and Leo Rush will be wrestling Darren Richardson.

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Speaker 3: I see, well, I mean that's a good card.

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Speaker 2: More to follow, But what are your thoughts on YouTube?

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Speaker 3: There's anybody promotions to go? You know, I mean there

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is ib TV, but they don't seem to be picking

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up new promotions, and I mean they can only accommodate

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so many as it is, and I mean it just

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seems like they've decided I don't know that they probably

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don't get any money from being on YouTube. I guess

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they seems to be like the prevailing wisdom is the

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exposure of putting your product out there is worth more

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than any like financial games you could potentially get from

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being on a you know, a streaming service that people

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have to pay to subscribe to you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I will say YouTube algorithm helps. There

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was that was having its debut show. I don't want

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to shout it out because I don't know if we'll

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do it, but I was just like, oh, this is

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kind of how it's supposed to work.

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Speaker 4: It'll feed you things.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, this is not a good sign for Triller TV,

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as they don't have a lot of shows left, a

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lot of promotions left. In a way, they're fortunate that

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GCW runs so many shows. Yeah that they have a

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lot of shows on on a weekend, but they're not

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really following, you know, they're not really keeping A lot

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of promotions have gone to YouTube. So I know, we

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have the the Triller TV package that came remember the

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name of it, but we have it, and it's almost

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now a dwindling asset because even a promotion like ACW

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Awesome Champion of Wrestling that we've covered, I just looked up,

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they have a show coming up this weekend, and you

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have to pay eight dollars for.

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Speaker 3: That additional to the Triller Yeah, okay, so basically it's

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just at this point it is really just GCW subscription.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think there are a couple other promotions that

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pop up from here to there, but it's primarily just that,

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Speaker 4: Don't know.

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Speaker 2: How long they can sustain that.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, GCW I think has does have a

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little like more popular than probably like how the Glory

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it's like in the national wrestling basis, But I don't know, like,

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I just don't think there's that many people out there

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who are even going to pay ten dollars a month

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to like stay releative, stay current on GCW.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Triller Plus was the name of the subscription service.

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of streaming services, but I feel like we're talking about

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them every week because of the promotion coming in and out.

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So we'll see what's what's going on, I think.

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Speaker 3: And there's not like new ones enter in the game either,

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you know, it's just it's still Triller and IWTV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my you know, my aw has got

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out of coverage, but they're not really offering any anything

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different than any other existing service you can't find on YouTube.

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I did see they finally have full shows, but the

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only promotions I could find them having a full current

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show from twenty twenty six was C four, which is

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also available on it and they don't have the most

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recent four show that took place in July, so they're

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actually a little bit behind where they were. And one

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FW Wrestling, which is a QT Marshall's promotion in Georgia,

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which I think we talked about covering at some point.

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They are on Chiller still and on my AW, but

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they put the episodes up at the same time, so

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again not much difference yet. We'll see if my AW

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distinguishes itself from these other streaming services you mentioned. House

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of Glory will be on YouTube their show High Intensity

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on August seventh from Jamaic Queens, New York. We will

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be covering that here on Wrestling Coast Coast, and we

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will also be covering another show on YouTube later in

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will be in September, and that is the second ever

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NWA Empower show, but he's taking place on Friday, August

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twenty eighth from Seerville, Tennessee. It is a collaboration event

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when owned by the NWA Women's Tag team champion sisters

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Kenzie and Kylie Page.

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Speaker 3: So is there is that Has there been any announcement?

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Speaker 2: Show for it's gonna be it's gonna be the it's

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gonna stream live on YouTube. Okay, they are having NWA

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NWA shouldn't. No, maybe they should have. Maybe this will

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can't have it months out, but you can't be advertising

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two shows down the road, you know.

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Speaker 2: I agree, And we're gonna be covering a couple of

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episodes of NBA Power in August, will be after this

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July twenty fifth event, so we'll see how they phase

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that in. I assume that the episodes we cover will

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not seat your matches from this event, but we'll see

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how far off they are. We also will be covering

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another preview a lot of the shows, and we'll be

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covering this NWA in Power show as well as I mentioned,

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but also we'll be covering MLW Fusion. It just became

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just started up again on YouTube at lwhead basically stopped

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running TV shows and it was only running their own

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kind of premium live events and then they've gone back

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to Fusion. So we will be covering that at some point.

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A lot of TV shows cover in the month of August.

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This week, we're covering a promotion that I feel this

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is kind of like a TV episode in a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is. I mean, yes, it's a weekly it's

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a weekly or sometimes twice weekly program. You know that

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this put out just on the IWTV channel.

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Speaker 2: And that promotion is Wrestling Open. We're going to cover

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episode two hundred and thirty six. Show took place July ninth,

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twenty twenty six from Worcestern, Massachusetts, failable on IWTV. Your

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commentator was Scott Robinson. He had a host of commentators

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joined him throughout the show and.

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Speaker 4: This match.

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Speaker 2: I should mention before I did appear with way Keller

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on the Raw post show this week to talk about Raw,

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which is not a great show if you saw it,

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and mentioned that we were happy to cover this show

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that preview always talk about wrestling Coast to Coast a

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preview talk about our show last week in preview this

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week's show, and I hadn't watched it at the time

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we recorded, but I said we the reason why we

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did this show was because we had seen the feud

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between the Stetson Ranch and we wanted to see this

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blow off match. And I have a lot to say

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about that match and what it would lead to, but

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we'll get to that the main event when we get there. First,

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we start off with Tyler Jordan versus Bobby Cassile, who's

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also who's also part of the Stetson Ranch. I've not

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seen Jordan before, had you no I, I.

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Speaker 4: You have not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he was from what he was listening. He was

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listened as being from Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Can't Ohio home of the NFL Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: So were we supposed to root for him?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I felt a little hometown sort of

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home state. I suppose pride for the guy.

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Speaker 4: Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: We saw Gasol about a month ago have a baby

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face match against Timothy Thatcher, and IF wondered, we've been

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wondering if he was going to be a heel for

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much longer. Jordan hit a spinning heel kick to the

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jaw and a blue thunderbomb. Question for you, justin, did

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he win with this with this move?

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Speaker 3: He did not.

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Speaker 2: I actually and I wrote this in my notes and

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it actually played out about the show. I was wondering

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if we could chart the amount of time someone hits

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a blue thunderbomb in a match and.

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Speaker 3: Loses and loses.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like it happened at least two or

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three times on this show in particular.

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Speaker 3: I guess it did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll get there spoiler alert. That's what happened

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on this match. Jordan traded pins. Jordan went for a

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springboard kick, but Cassal blocked it. He ended up putting

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a sleeper on Jordan. Jordan tapped out. The ref either

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had a delayed reaction to it or Casal dropped him

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before the referee can single for the bell. Some confusion

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among the commentators, but Bobby Gasal was your winner in

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seven minutes and forty two seconds. After the match, Casal

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stated that people have been asking him if he's going

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to do the Stetson Ranch. He said he stayed loyal

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to the people who have been with him since day one.

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Very cryptic from Bobby Kassel, who is your winner? Feeding

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Tyler Jordan in seven minutes and forty two seconds?

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Speaker 4: I thought, I.

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Speaker 3: Thought this was a good match to really put Cassle

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over but not squashed Jordan. Even though they painted him

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as a rookie, he was. It was kind of a

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heel heel match Tyler, you know, even though I liked

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him because he was from Ohio and he had shiny

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new white and gold gear that uh. The color guy

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Devin Reno at the time noted looked like he was

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straight from heaven. He acted very much a heel. He

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was very like cocky and kind of aggressive. But I

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thought I thought he had good charisma as being a heel.

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Overall like it was nothing over spectacular, but I you know,

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I saw a lot of potential here. I did like

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I liked the angle in a vacuum of like kind

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of choosing which side KISSOI will choose. But they're running

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a couple different like dissension like problems with your fashion

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angles in wrestling open at the same time, which I

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think is probably too many.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we'll get to the other one because we

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haven't covered a full show. I didn't realize how similar

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this match, this angle was to another angle on the

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show of a long time promotion, So maybe need to

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switch that up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: They did a very good job.

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Speaker 2: I will say during the show of wearing highlight packages

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of several wrestlers, many of which not on the program,

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so we'll mention them when they occurred. They are the

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highlight package of Yeah. Before the next match was Laurence St.

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James versus Nessa Ferrari, I mentioned that Nansa Ferrari has

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lost three times to Laurence James and wanted to do

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it again. I was like, why you can't beat her?

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Also make it clear as well, Ferrari is the heel

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and James is the baby face, so I was supposed

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to leave the Ferrari loses to James and James is

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must to be the biggest baby face of all time

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and keeps giving rematches.

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Speaker 3: We're the smartest. I mean, you can rack up the w's.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I guess, yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 4: She just.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't want to see like career progression, Like you don't

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really get anything from being the same person.

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Speaker 3: You get you get paid.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 3: It was. It was actually a weird like the psychologically

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it was backwards, like it should be like the face

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loses a bunch, but he's like, I know in my

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heart I can beat this person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are the heels arrogant? Are the heel cheats and

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that's why they win. In the face wants another match

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because you know, psychology here is kind of backward. On

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and that James are covered from a series arm injury.

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You've heard of the term third time as a charm, Yes,

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well here fourth time was a charm for James, as

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Ferrari went for suplex. But James versus into an inside

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cradle for the win. Lauren James is your winner in

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five minutes and eleven seconds. After the match, Ferrari grabbed

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James look like she's gonna attack her, but held her

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arm up in a sign of respect. At this point,

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if someone's beating you four times in a row, show

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respect and move on.

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Speaker 4: Maybe go to.

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Speaker 2: Another territory, Nessa Ferrari. But Lauren Saint James is your winner,

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Defeatingnessa Ferrari in five minutes and eleven seconds.

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Speaker 4: Admit it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like psycho lot of it. Like you said, I'm

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not sure, I don't even know where you could go

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with this because you're like building to the heel finally

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getting a victory over the baby face. That's like the

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opposite of an inspiring storyline. Uh, this was another like

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real basic match. I think this is especially open, and

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I think they do this in a lot of the shows.

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It's been a while since I've really watched it, but

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they they kind of divide the show. Like the early

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part is a lot of very young wrestlers. You're just

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kind of trying stuff out and getting just getting repetitions in,

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and then you get kind of to the more experienced

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people with more more focused storylines. Lauren looked like Lauren

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looked like she was fifteen years old basically, but was

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built as the titanium woman as you said, she had

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apparently had a like an arm injury and so it

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had like a titanium plate in her arm, hence the

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name A class, you know, the classic Lux leaguer. This

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was another like very kind of kind of basic match

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that they did. I don't know, like you said, I

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don't know where they really go with this storyline. I

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get like, if Nessa and Lauren are friends now, I

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guess they could do a tag team somewhere, like Nessa

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saves Lauren from something and they end up facing them.

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Like there's not like a super strong women's division and

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wrestling open either they So I'm just not sure, like

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it's hard to tell, like what they can do with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel I usually can't maintain that usually maintain

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or give a full rap up at the end. But

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I fact that the biggest part of the show the opening.

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The opening matches are basically just sort of setting up

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some younger wrestlers. Yeah, some matches with wrestlers who've been

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in and around wrestling open more towards the end of

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the show. But so I think, like I like them

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having new wrestlers here that you know, we can maybe

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see more of in the future. I just like the

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psychology of this match. I kind of don't know where

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Nansa Ferrari Ferrari goes from here unless you, I mean,

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unless it makes a complete baby face his turn, and

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that's something. And then also Laurence Saint James, when you

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really came out with her for a fifth time, that

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would just be.

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Speaker 3: No, unless something like they'd have to like do a

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double turn or something to really to freshen it up

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in some way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we'll see where they go with that. A

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highlight package, as I said, mentioned there at Howard packaged

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several wrestlers and they had one of the Stepson wrench.

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The next match is Brother of Greatness versus Brian Morris.

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Most of the times we've seen Brother Greatness recently on

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Wrestling Open or Beyond, he's been a commentator, but Wrestling

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here today, the comments even mentioned that they hadn't wrestled

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much recently, so I assumed that he was going to.

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Speaker 4: Not win.

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Speaker 2: Down the middle, and he actually did so, foreshadowing Greatness

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was holding his own against Morris. He had a top

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rope splash on Morris. He went for another top rope

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room over, but Dustin Waller, who had some and I

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forgot the name of it. Money in the bank, Opportunity knocks,

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Opportunity knocks contract, that's right, which allows him to challenge

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for any title at any point. He came out, he

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distracted Greatness. This allowed Morris to throw Greatest in the

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ropes and hit Angels wings for the win. So, Brian

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Morris off the Stetson ranch, is your winning here in

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six minutes and twenty six seconds, So yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean we're getting the pack.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: This is another match that was pretty basic and like

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you said, just kind of, I mean, it existed to

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further a couple of storylines you had. Obviously, brother Greatness

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and friends are in a feud with Dustin Waller and

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the Morris is part of the Stedeston ranch breakup. So basically,

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I mean it's just to establish he's there, he's on

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the card kind of it was. This was actually weird,

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another like weird psychology bit because his brother Greatness comes

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00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:05,039
to the ring and he's dancing, and Bobby Cassou on

477
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,839
commentary not impressed at all and knows he's like gonna

478
00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:13,680
blow himself up immediately, and then like Greatness pretty well

479
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,680
gets schooled and is immediately like intimidated and was like,

480
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,400
oh no, I shouldn't have been dancing at all, which

481
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,359
is kind of a healish action if you think about it.

482
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,200
But he was the face here. His co Also, Greatness

483
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,000
is like selling is way way over the top, like

484
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:35,880
almost almost like funny at times, just like he is.

485
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,200
Anything you do to him, he is like screaming and

486
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,440
you're like, you think he's about to lose a limb.

487
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,039
So I mean, he gives it, is all. You can't

488
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,720
not say that he does his coke. I like this

489
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:53,880
movie is called The Disciples Splash, which is like a

490
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,599
lion salt, but he actually twists in mid air so

491
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:02,759
he lands basing the opposite direction of what you usually do.

492
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,240
I never quite saw anything like that, so I thought

493
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,839
that was pretty good. So yeah, I don't know, Like

494
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,880
I said, the match more of about the angles furthering,

495
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,400
like what's going on with Brother Greatness and Dustin Waller

496
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,000
than in the match itself.

497
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that again, this is this match really

498
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,079
set up something that happened on later on the show.

499
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,200
I think I also wanted more to win do the

500
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,599
Stetson ranch involvement in the main event, and.

501
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,799
Speaker 3: Really, I mean Greatness is like a manager more and commentator,

502
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,720
So I don't know that he doesn't need to really

503
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,160
win matches and probably shouldn't win a lot of matches.

504
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they came out and it's like, oh wow,

505
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:47,559
he doesn't really wrestle, Like, yeah, I'll tell sign.

506
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: That this is not going to.

507
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,839
Speaker 2: Be a long deal.

508
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,119
Speaker 3: Either he'll lose or someone will have to like interfere

509
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:57,200
egregiously on his.

510
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:03,319
Speaker 2: Behalf the next match. Before the next match, the high

511
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,039
package of Wrestling Open Champion Bear Bronson was shown. Jake

512
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,759
Gray came out for the next match. He asked if

513
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:14,599
anyone has seen BRG, who he was supposed to wrestle.

514
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,000
No one can find him. He's supposed to wrest him

515
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,119
last week. He wasn't there. BRG was supposed to wrest

516
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,880
him this week, he wasn't there. He says, BRG has

517
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,240
result his way out of wrestling him. He said, instead,

518
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:26,400
he's going to face a giant, someone who's caused some

519
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,720
problems before. He called out his opponent, Rex Lawless. This

520
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,440
leads to our next match, Rex Lawless versus Jake Gray.

521
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,559
His match was your classic big person versus a little

522
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,640
person match. My little person smaller person not something else.

523
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,519
Lawless was much bigger than Gray, but Gray tried to

524
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,599
use the speed advantage whenever he could. At one point,

525
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:49,839
Gray hit a few moves and jumped off the top rope.

526
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:53,240
Laws caught him and hit a buckle bomb. Gray tried

527
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,599
to fight back to a very limited success. Colm He

528
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640
has even mentioned that the referee might love to stop

529
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
the match after a few of Lawless a power moves,

530
00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:03,799
loll also the clothes line, and everyone thought it was over,

531
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,920
but Gray kicked out of two. Lawless went to go

532
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,759
for a choke slam, but Gray was able to get

533
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,839
on his shoulders, remover and position himself into a victory

534
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,920
roll and end up picking the win out of nowhere.

535
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:19,640
So Jake Gray on a mission to find BRB, but

536
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400
in the meantime getting a few hard knocked victories, beating

537
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,559
Rex Lawless in seven minutes and twenty one cents.

538
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: So Jake Gray is really kind of an example of

539
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880
what we say that we were saying they really do

540
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640
with wrestling open if you stick with it over time

541
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,279
watching I remember watching him probably I think last year,

542
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:44,000
maybe like late the year before, and he was really

543
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,880
kind of like in the Tyler Jordan role he was

544
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,720
you know, he was a guy who came out and

545
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:54,880
got slashed by I think rage Azz fairly quickly, and

546
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880
they've just like slowly been building him up. And now

547
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,839
he's like at a level. I mean, he's not main

548
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,200
event level, but he's at like a mid card levels

549
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,000
that he can like now he can start issuing challenges,

550
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:10,200
not throwing out challenges, and he's starting to get upset winds.

551
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:12,440
So you know, so if you stick with it, it

552
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,759
over time, like and I don't you know, he may

553
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:17,200
not be a guy they move up, but he is

554
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,880
a guy, like definitely. They're trying. They're testing the waters

555
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880
with him to see like how far they can push him.

556
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,240
So it's really interesting to me and I think kind

557
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680
of like what classic booking, how you want it to

558
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,759
work even though it's like really hard to get it

559
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:36,920
to do that. He well, we did see him getting squashed.

560
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,880
He was called the handyman, and did he actually did

561
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,799
dress kind of like a handyman with like coveralls, and

562
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:46,440
I think, did you have like a toolbox or like

563
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,799
a hammer or something like he was like really leaning

564
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,200
into the gimmick. And now he's still called the handyman,

565
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,160
but he's totally changed his look. He looks I thought

566
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880
he looked like a skater guy. He's kind of like

567
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,079
got this black like denim suit or dinim outfit and

568
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,359
some more prestigious facial hair. It's not quite like how

569
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,640
New Japan, like a young Lion would progress to a

570
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,319
actual featured character. But he's changing up, but he still

571
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:21,200
called the handyman. I thought, you know, like this match

572
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,279
was pretty much what I thought it would be, which

573
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:26,759
is Jake Gray is gonna get squashed quite a bit

574
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920
and then he'll probably get to pull out a victory

575
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,799
out of nowhere. Uh, And that's what happened. I thought

576
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,160
it was really a good showcase for Rex Lawless, who's

577
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,359
who's a big guy who still has some really good

578
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,319
moves he does. He does like this cool like twisting

579
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:50,240
spear and he got frustrated with Gray and did like

580
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,920
instead of like the classic sidewalk slam where we fall

581
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,000
down with the guy, he just just like, oh, I'm

582
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000
sick of this and just like dropped him like a

583
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:03,000
true sidewalk drop. Jake's outfit, though I didn't know, it

584
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,759
seemed like it would be really hot to wrestle in,

585
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:10,759
not like CPA hot but kind of uncomfortable. Rote Rex

586
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,640
hit he did, he hit the ropes. Jake was like

587
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,599
leaning on the ropes and Rex hit the ropes in

588
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,039
a way that Jake was like bounced off him and

589
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240
Rexit clothes line him. A couple of other people do that,

590
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:21,839
and I think that's a pretty cool move. If for

591
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,160
it for like a big guy to do.

592
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,640
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, I'd like I said, you know, this was

610
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,559
kind of like a match. We knew where it was going,

611
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,719
but I thought they pulled it off. Well, I'm not sure,

612
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,440
like if BRG was really like missed the show so

613
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:32,440
they had to improvise, or I mean, this is part

614
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,760
of a longer storyline with him in BRG, But if

615
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,840
they did have to like pull something together quickly, they

616
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,320
did a good.

617
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,679
Speaker 4: Job of it.

618
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm assuming that he's gonna call him out for

619
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,000
a couple of weeks and eventually BRG will show up

620
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,719
or he'll attack him in the match. I think they

621
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,159
did one at the tell tal signs. I thought Lawless

622
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,559
was gonna loser. That they mentioned that his his usual

623
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,480
tag team partner DJ Powers, and a car of the

624
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,960
other guys who was with uh they weren't there they

625
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,519
mentioned earlier. I'm like, Okay, this is gonna be probably

626
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,280
a oh, we're not out of nowhere. But again it's

627
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,079
progressing the Gray BRG feud, so it makes sense. Highy

628
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:27,000
packages was shown of the verdict, Ryan Clancy and Laveauh respectively.

629
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,519
The next match the Haven Jay Onyx and Seawn Knight

630
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:35,559
versus the Breadwinners, Cash McGinnis and Patrick Wheatman. Haven were

631
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,119
baby faces, all the bread Winners were heels. Another match

632
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:42,000
I would say amongst newer wrestlers wrestling open, which is

633
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,760
important to get new people asp as people have moved

634
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,760
on to other places or other territories, get other people

635
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,119
on the show. The match had one of the most

636
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,840
contrived moves I've ever seen, and I Washington Pen wrestling.

637
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:00,000
Alex held Onyx, who was the baby face in peril

638
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,519
part of the match, held Weatman by the legs under

639
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:07,159
McGuinness after McGinnis missed Bronco buster in the corner and

640
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:12,639
then obs Onyx grabbed and pulled Wheatman into McGuinness. But

641
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:14,800
it took him about twenty five years to set.

642
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:17,599
Speaker 3: This up, Yes, and it was so so he had

643
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:20,039
him in the sling shot and I was like, okay,

644
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,360
just sling shot him like right there into the guy

645
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,599
right who's you know, stuck in them somehow stuck in

646
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:29,000
the middle rope, but instead yeah, like he said, he

647
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,199
like maneuvered him all the way, Like he did like

648
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,320
one hundred and eighty degree turn and then had to

649
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,920
like kind of walk him forward so he could sling

650
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,280
shot him directly into the other guy's butt.

651
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just yeah, Contrives, I.

652
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,079
Speaker 3: Guess they over your overthought was such an easy like

653
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,519
easy spot.

654
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,679
Speaker 4: These guys, you know, they're they're learning in the ropes. Yeah.

655
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: Literally, Mike got in the ring. He got the hot

656
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,159
tag and played the House of Fire. Hennon Germany sloop

657
00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,519
lets them both Wheatman and Maginnis. He charged Wheatman and

658
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,440
on ex blind tagged himself in. They hit the doomsday

659
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,119
device for the win and stole the chain from the

660
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:08,840
bread winners that they had take. They took their chain

661
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,000
back and stole the chain from the bread winners. A

662
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,920
friend of ours that we met in and at the

663
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,480
Paw Pawckete show would have really enjoyed the result of

664
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,880
this match. Uh the haven are your winners? In seven

665
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,760
minutes and twenty one seconds.

666
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another like this is okay, Like it

667
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,920
was weird. The announcers like buried the red Winners as

668
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,960
these young, stupid kids they couldn't understand, and then like Cassally,

669
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,199
I guess got better and tried to make up for

670
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,639
him advice like well, you know, I don't get it,

671
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:50,679
but they could. There out here, they're doing their own thing.

672
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,519
Wheatman came out with two energy drinks in his pocket,

673
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,679
which I respected. I've had to get up at five

674
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,840
am this week because the coworker is off and I

675
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,320
need to like check to make sure something's running. So

676
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:11,280
it's like, I get it, buddy, you know I don't.

677
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,119
The match was kind of weird and like it felt

678
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,599
like the focus was really the Breadwinners. To me, even

679
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:20,280
though it was like the Haven won the match, it

680
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,239
was more about the Breadwinners being kind of dumb and obnoxious,

681
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:28,840
and then to me it's like the Haven, we're just

682
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,079
kind of guys who were there. McGinnis also like from

683
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,599
the side, he's another person made me feel because he

684
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,400
looked about fifteen in a profile. I did think that

685
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,119
the chain snatching by them was a really good spot,

686
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,159
especially when McGinnis put his chain put on his chain

687
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,400
on Wheatman. The Bronco Busters, I don't know what they

688
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,239
were doing. Those were the slowest Bronco busters I've ever seen.

689
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,760
And it wasn't like he's trying to be slow to

690
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,239
be like arrogant or offensive. It was just like he

691
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,400
did the move in very slow motion. And I don't

692
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,840
know exactly why why it would take you that long

693
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,360
to do a Bronco buster of all things.

694
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel you guys are green. They're learning

695
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,079
the ropes. They'll get better. There's more to them to come.

696
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,280
I think, I hope at least.

697
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: They seemed to way. I mean, there's kind of a

698
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:25,840
swipe rightness to them, but I mean they're a long

699
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,079
way from being swipe right.

700
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,159
Speaker 4: That is true.

701
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: Next, a video package showing TJ. Crawford turning on Brad

702
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,039
Hollister in a match with the Stetson Ranch to Costs

703
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:38,679
Big Business, which is Hollister and Lovedug the Restling Open

704
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:43,119
tag from Titles, and a subsequent match between Crawford and Hollister.

705
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:47,599
Hollister inadvertently ran into the referee. Hollister applied the ankle

706
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:49,800
lock to Crawford, who tapped out, but right when the

707
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,559
referee got up, the referee looked like he was giving

708
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,079
the match to Hollister, but instead and form, rich Paladino

709
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:59,599
that he disqualified Hollister running into him, making this the

710
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:02,840
first forever to disqualify someone for a ref bump.

711
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,159
Speaker 3: This was a heck of a dusty finished like it

712
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,039
got me even like like a replay. I was like,

713
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,400
I was like, oh, I was like, wow, he beat TJ.

714
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:11,760
That really that's kind of weird.

715
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, just I mean, they don't do a lot of rest,

716
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:18,079
They don't do a lot of refugh bumps in.

717
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 4: Wrestling Open. But and I get it.

718
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: It's funny because I'm always like a stickler for the rules.

719
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,119
But I was kind of like, all right, come on, like,

720
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:29,960
are we really doing this? But I get it. It

721
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,079
played into what happened next. Rich Paldino was appous to

722
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:37,079
introduced the next match.

723
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: When t J.

724
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: Crawford comes out, he says he's here to celebrate his

725
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:45,119
the biggest victory in Wrestling Open history, which is the

726
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,760
said victory over Brad Hollister. He says he has a

727
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,519
few people to think, including Brad Houster's son, who Provert

728
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:59,280
said has made Hollister fat and lazy. He said that

729
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,559
it's something doesn't have to look up to Haster anymore

730
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,000
when he can look up to Crawford. This, of course

731
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,920
sends Hollister out there immediately to go after him. Crawford

732
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,440
bails from the ring. Halser challenges him to a no

733
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:17,800
disqualification match. Crawford said he has to earn it, and

734
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,719
to do so, he'd have to win his match tonight.

735
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,079
Crawford said he's gonna sit on commentary to make sure

736
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:26,559
he does not cheat. The crowd really hates t J. Crawford,

737
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:29,559
as they chanted some things we cannot repeat here on

738
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,039
resting Thoset coast at him during the segment.

739
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: He's a good heel and he's embraced this more like

740
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,519
I said, a slimy Miami vice. Look he's got he's

741
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,360
grown out his facial hair and he's got kind of

742
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,400
a goate but like it's not connected. It has a name,

743
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,119
but I can't remember what it's called. And like this

744
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,480
pointy chim beer like he just looks like more lowsome.

745
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,039
He's got a good like punch uble face.

746
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:04,119
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's it going into the heel. You being

747
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,519
definitely full fledged heel. This is least to our next match.

748
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:16,320
Brad Holster versus Devin Reno. The crowd chanted bald at Reno.

749
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,079
I may add this to my list of least favorite

750
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:19,880
wrestling chants.

751
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: It's the worst one. I think, like I don't know,

752
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,360
like say what, I don't know. This is like the

753
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,400
thing I probably blamed Christierricho foremost.

754
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: There's so many things you can blame for. I don't know.

755
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,679
Speaker 3: This bald chant is like it's infecting everywhere because like, okay,

756
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:43,639
wrestlers are bald, probably yeah, and if you figure half

757
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,440
of them are heels, it's twenty percent, like you get

758
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,079
a bald chant every This is the worst thing to

759
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:53,719
happen to wrestling since what oh yeah, yeah, at least

760
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,119
chance wise, I mean, I know there's like actual bad

761
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,039
things that happen.

762
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:01,119
Speaker 2: Well from a chat perspective, especially, I mean, at least

763
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,480
at least the other chance you know that I don't

764
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:10,679
like are somehow related to the show. Yeah, like Channing.

765
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,679
First of all, some people are bald by choice. Secondly,

766
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,000
some people, you know, it's an easier lifestyle to do

767
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:25,400
when you fit a certain age in life where that's

768
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,559
where your hair has to go, and it's just sort

769
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:37,440
of like, you know, yeah, it's crazy. It's just ridiculous.

770
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 7: Longing for some nostalgia or maybe you want to learn

771
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,199
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Friday on the PW Torch Daily Cast Feed. Alex and

773
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Patrick will transport you thirty years into the past by

774
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,480
you taking you through the Torch issue from that very

775
00:43:56,519 --> 00:44:00,480
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776
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,679
happenings from across the wrestling industry in real time as

777
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,159
The Torch reported it thirty years ago. That's the nineties

778
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,559
Past cast every Friday on the PW Torch Daily Cast Feed.

779
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: That's like, okay, one of the most popular wrestlers of

780
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,760
the past, you know, the last thirty years. Bald Guy.

781
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: Yes, another one that was also fairly popular, and it

782
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,840
was wrestling up until what last year? Also bald Guy

783
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,159
also yeah, Actually, come to think of it, a guy

784
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:37,760
who I used to like a lot as a kid

785
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,519
and died recently and haven't liked so much recently because

786
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:41,800
of things.

787
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,039
Speaker 4: Also bald Guy.

788
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:49,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. But anyway, Hollister spent a lot of the matters

789
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,880
being distracted by Crawford on commentary, and Crawford spent a

790
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,920
lot of time on the commentary making disparaging comments about

791
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:01,239
Hollister's wait. I thought you know it's man producing this. Yeah,

792
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,079
Reno had the advantage. He went for his finisher, which

793
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:08,119
Crawford seemed excited by when Robinson described it, but Holster escaped.

794
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:11,039
Holster hit a German suplex on a Reno and hit

795
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,400
two charges at Reno into the corner and follow up

796
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,320
the hip attack, Holster hit an angle slam for a

797
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,599
two count. Reno hit a fourum but Hollister counter with

798
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:23,920
the spear. This caused Crawford, thinking that Hawser my win,

799
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,920
to run down to the ring. Reno hit the deep six,

800
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,400
which I believe look.

801
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,079
Speaker 4: Kind of like a blue thunderbomb.

802
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: Did.

803
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know what that means. He one was

804
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,119
the two count Reno went first finisher, but Holster escaped

805
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:43,920
and hit a tornado jack camera for the win. Brett

806
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,519
Hoster was your winner in seven minutes of fifty two seconds.

807
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:49,960
Crawford and I actually liked this immediately went into attack

808
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,679
Holster so quick that Richard Paladino could not even announce

809
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,960
the match the match time. That's how Quickie came in.

810
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:59,880
Hollister was ready and hit Crawford with the head. But

811
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,639
but Hawser is gonna take out Crawford. But love Doug

812
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:05,400
came to the ring this loved Crawford to escape. Love

813
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,360
Doug is supposed to be neutral, but Hawser's annoyed with

814
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,639
him and leaves, which I'm guessing is leading We'll lead

815
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,480
to Love Doug turning on Hollister when him and Crawford wrestle.

816
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,360
But for now, Brett Hoster is your winner, defeeding Devin

817
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,400
Reno in seven minutes and fifty two seconds.

818
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, this is what I kind of alluded to before.

819
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:29,639
We've got another group breaking up Big Business, and you've

820
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:31,880
got kind of the two main guys who've gone their

821
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,840
separate ways, and there's a third guy who's you don't

822
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,280
know which way he's gonna go. This it's a little

823
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,400
The only difference is, I think, I guess like the

824
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,599
heel face alignment's different. It's like the guy who turned

825
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,159
on the group in Stetson Ranches to face and here

826
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:51,960
the guy who turned on the group and Big Business

827
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:55,440
is the heel. But otherwise it's it's like very very

828
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,639
similar stuff happening on the same shows. Yeah think, yeah,

829
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:02,280
on the same show.

830
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: You know, I think, you know, we'll see. My guess

831
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:10,280
is that one of them is kind of over. So

832
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:17,079
this might replace it. There are also more people uh

833
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,440
in thus in big business. Maybe business also was a

834
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,960
little bit different because they were heels who became babyfaces.

835
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,239
But I don't want to say too much because of

836
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,360
what I think might happen because it it's in contradiction

837
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,800
to what happened to the main event. We haven't got

838
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,159
there yet.

839
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean there are some different It just

840
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:43,880
seems like it's so I mean too, You're going to

841
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,159
pay off a divided store, divided loyalty storyline and then

842
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,960
like immediate, not just immediately introduce it, but like on

843
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,159
the same show introduce it like I would have waited

844
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,719
at least wait till the next show to start this

845
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:55,679
love Doug stuff.

846
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: And to be fair, they even had both I think

847
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,920
both wrestlers. Both matches between Hollis. I think Holliser versus

848
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,320
Crawford was last week, as was Danny Miles or Steven

849
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,760
Stetson and both ended in the.

850
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 4: Qualifications.

851
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't cover we covered uh Stetson and Miles

852
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,320
on the VIP last week, did not cover Hollister and Crawford,

853
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,760
but we did go over that match here because it

854
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,920
was part of this week's episode. Yeah, but they both

855
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:31,960
end up in in uh the qualifications. Now, obviously Crawford

856
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,760
and Hollistin did not have their blowoff match on the show,

857
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,360
which made sense, but they both are kind of were

858
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,320
kind of progressing in the same way. Yes, a video

859
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,440
package air to preview the next match between Dustin Waller

860
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,320
and Sammy Diaz. Waller was coming out saying that he

861
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,159
was going to win the Wrestling Open title and then

862
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:58,440
never defend it in uh, the Rhode Island.

863
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there were There was one of the

864
00:48:59,079 --> 00:48:59,960
Rhode Island shas.

865
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,079
Speaker 2: Yeah with someone the Knights. Diaz, who used to be

866
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:05,800
friends with Waller as the Miracle Generation, has turned heel

867
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,239
to longtime baby faces, said that he's trying to talk

868
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,559
to him, not as a dad, as a big brother,

869
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:13,119
and then Waller said, you know, I know you've met

870
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:17,519
my dad. Amazically insulted d as his father because saying

871
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,800
he didn't was in his life because he was incarcerated,

872
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,280
so Diaz attacked him again. I like the fact that Diaz,

873
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,199
you know, maybe because I watched Raw and I watched

874
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,119
Seth Role's Roman reigns insult each other just to go

875
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:34,480
back and forth. I love wrestling when someone says something

876
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,119
that's I feel I could cause a fight in like

877
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,840
actual life, and they actually like attacked the person. Yeah,

878
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,280
as opposed to like coming back with a WINNI comeback

879
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,519
because you know again, and there was a fight and

880
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:48,239
maybe just the way that I grew up in high school,

881
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,440
but you know, you don't need two or three lines

882
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:56,880
like that to lead to a physical altercation. There was

883
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,039
another match where Dzu Waller's gonna do the concerto on

884
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,440
someone not sure who it was. Lights went out and

885
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:08,079
Daz came out and made the save, uh, saving gentleman

886
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:10,320
from a chair attack, and so that he was gonna

887
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,440
beat Waller like his dad should have done years ago.

888
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:19,880
That leads us to our next match, Dustin Waller versus

889
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,800
Sammy Diaz. Diaz hit a blue thunderbomb for two counts.

890
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: Bad news for Diz.

891
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 4: Keep that in mind.

892
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: You know what Diaz also did, which I'm gonna start

893
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,840
keeping count What's that he did? His styles clash?

894
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 4: Oh did he?

895
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:39,159
Speaker 7: Yes?

896
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,679
Speaker 3: It is open season on that move. It was like

897
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,599
people were waiting for aj Styles to retire, and now

898
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:51,079
like the damn has burst and it's flooded.

899
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,519
Speaker 2: But I feel like it doesn't like the styles clash.

900
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,480
He first of all, Michelle, then Michelle McCool do a

901
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:00,480
visual of styles clash he did.

902
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: That's right, Oh my gosh, she did do. Wow, Chris

903
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,119
remember that before I did?

904
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: And yes, only because I remember it coming up in

905
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,000
like an interview not too long ago.

906
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: But the teacher that would be amazing.

907
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,079
Speaker 4: I doubt it. But they were like the only piece, like.

908
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:21,519
Speaker 3: This is a move I can never fit into my character.

909
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:22,800
But that was really nice.

910
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: They you know, you don't think that Biker Taker when.

911
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,119
Speaker 3: I wish, I wish, yeah.

912
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: Or American Badass Taker is that?

913
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

914
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: There were a couple of There's an Undertaker obviously the class.

915
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,440
There was the early Undertaker who was like led by

916
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:46,840
the urn.

917
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

918
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: There was the American Badass Undertaker of like two thousand

919
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,320
and one is right, they came out to live Biscuit

920
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,719
no Kid Rock, right.

921
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:57,159
Speaker 4: Yeah.

922
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: Then there was Biker Undertaker, and Biker Undertaker was the

923
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,760
one that got like abducted by someone that came back

924
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,079
as like the Undertaker, right.

925
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,679
Speaker 3: I think it was one of the times King murdered him.

926
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:11,159
Speaker 4: Yeah.

927
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: Oh, Biker Taker is of the famous hands too Low promo.

928
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes to Orlando Jordan, Yes, Orlando Joris Stoodo

929
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,719
with John Cena, like twenty years ago, more than twenty

930
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,280
years ago.

931
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:33,079
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throughout the week, every week.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: Worry Waller hit a Spanish lie and a handspring cutter.

948
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On the third attempt to try to do this for

949
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a two count, Waller climbed to the top rope, but

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Diz rolled out of the ring Smart Wrestling. Waller was

951
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:31,440
going to do a move on the apron, but Brother

952
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,480
Greatness came out, sort of channeling what happened earlier when

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Waller came out during Brother Greatness is Master Brian Morris.

954
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He argues with Waller long enough for DS to escape

955
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,320
it trade strikes on the apron. DZ got Waller up

956
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,559
a Waller fought out and hit a tombstone on the apron.

957
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He rolled DZ vacuum, but DZ kicked out at two.

958
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Waller got on the apron again and Greatness did as well.

959
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,559
Waller slapped him because of Greens to try to follow

960
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:03,760
him into the ring. The referee intervened. Daz almost super

961
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kick Greatness when Wallder move out of the way, but

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he held up. This gave Waller a little bit of

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daylight to roll up Daz and hell the tights for

964
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the wins. So Dustin Waller wins in twelve minutes and

965
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,280
eleven seconds. After the match, Das will consold by Brother Greatness,

966
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,639
but I felt like this is almost part of a breakup.

967
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:27,840
I'll break up our DS, maybe turning on Greatness, feeling

968
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that Greatness cost him the match, but Dustin Waller again

969
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,239
as your winner in twelve minutes and eleven seconds.

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Speaker 3: See, I really hope it's not that, because again, it

971
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just it would feel very similar to like what we

972
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,239
just saw with like Big Business. You know, it would

973
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,639
be another group that's just gonna splinter and now Eachi

974
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,719
bought for Ichibon will be caught in the middle. They didn't.

975
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,519
I mean, it seemed like the announcer felt like it

976
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,639
was going that way, but their actions, I mean, it

977
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,519
just seemed like Daz seemed to be like, it's okay,

978
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you know, these things happen. So I don't know, at

979
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,000
least hopefully they like postponed that one for a little while,

980
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,639
you know, just to avoid some over repetitiveness. It feels

981
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like they're really trying to push Waller into a big deal,

982
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like a big deal, like main event level heel. I don't.

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00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,599
We have not seen him wrestle singles very much.

984
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 4: Have we a few times here or there.

985
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Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely, I mean he's only a heel in

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00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,079
wrestling open. I think at least.

987
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:32,639
Speaker 2: We saw him wrestle Ben Bishop at the last Beyond show.

988
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,679
Oh that's right, yeah, interfering.

989
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:42,119
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, But yeah, I mean it seems like

990
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,119
like it felt like Waller's in this program. You know,

991
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:49,360
he's winning. He's got this money in the bank style contract,

992
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:55,079
so it's interesting. Definitely going a different direction with him.

993
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,480
It was funny they like they called you know, he

994
00:55:57,559 --> 00:55:59,960
is called Dustin Flash Waller, but the announcers talked about

995
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,000
how he's like since he's turned, he's like slowed things

996
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,679
way down and he does like wrestle much more like

997
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,719
keelish methodical pace.

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00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I like the fact, well one, I like

999
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the fact that I think when we started watching or

1000
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we started shifting our show. Actually we haven't shifted yet

1001
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because we did Heavy Lights of Crowd twenty twenty one, right, yes,

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And I believe on that show, Miracle Generation became the

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second IWTV Tag Team Champions or not the tournament.

1004
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Speaker 3: They won it after, They won it after because I

1005
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,639
think they were supposed to but one of them like

1006
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,199
got like a legitimately hurt.

1007
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Waller got injured and so Forever won and

1008
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,480
they won it later. But we saw them speaking said

1009
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,440
up as kind of a good baby face tag team

1010
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,760
on the Indies, and they had a long run with

1011
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,719
those tag team titles. Reminds you who are the iw

1012
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,400
TV Tag Team Champions right.

1013
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: Now, that's you know, that's a good question.

1014
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:11,079
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe you want to look that up while

1015
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:13,360
I riff a bit. And you know, they had a

1016
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thing there as baby Face Champions for a long time.

1017
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,079
They had, you know, good matches. I felt there was

1018
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:25,159
at one point they were kind of overtaken by Swipe

1019
00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:27,440
right when Swipe Wright came in, and obviously Swipe Wright's

1020
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now on NXT. And I want to give Waller and

1021
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:34,960
King credit because they decided to change up their gimmick

1022
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,960
a little bit. And we saw them wrestless heels I

1023
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,719
remember against the main event at a promotion. But they

1024
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,239
they've kind of they've they've kept as a tag team,

1025
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,360
so they still wrestled together, but they also do their

1026
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,039
heels stuff apart, and I think that's given them a

1027
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:52,760
little bit of a new dimension to them as wrestlers.

1028
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,000
I think it's really helpful for them in the long run.

1029
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:57,559
They were probably one of the I think them and

1030
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:00,679
Alec Price were the first we hadn't seen noted with

1031
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,719
that show. And yeah, hopefully that they continue their growth.

1032
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,239
Speaker 3: So the iw TV Tech Team Champions are banging Matthews,

1033
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:14,039
which occurs to me we actually saw them win the title.

1034
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:17,039
Speaker 4: They won that Heavy Lines the Crown.

1035
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the show the next day?

1036
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: The rest of over because there was a tournament on

1037
00:58:24,519 --> 00:58:27,159
Heavy Lines the Crown and then the winners who do they.

1038
00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:32,639
Speaker 3: Defeat Miracle Generation the Generation, but they have not defended

1039
00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:35,960
the titles. This is per cage match, but the last

1040
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,199
recorded defense of the title was back in March, So

1041
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:41,639
I don't know, it doesn't seem like they're.

1042
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,239
Speaker 4: Like, is that an unsanctioned pro.

1043
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: No, it was on it was on a Beyond show.

1044
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: So and then we've seen you know, banging Matthews will

1045
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,320
highlight the ad wrestling GCW other places. So yeah, that's

1046
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:57,159
that's that's weird.

1047
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: But hopefully that I mean there there's there's not like

1048
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,280
some of these hurt. There's you know, they're wrestling all

1049
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:02,719
the time.

1050
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, hopefully they you can defend the Todle

1051
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,800
very soon. Yes, next we have our main event coming up,

1052
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,719
and before that, we had a video package showing the

1053
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,159
issues among the Stetson ranch. In the video package, you

1054
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,920
had Stephen Stetson and Danny Miles arguing, causing Miles to

1055
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:29,239
get pinned, rolled up and lose Miles costing Stetson to

1056
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,800
lose a title match when Stetson was wrestling for the

1057
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,840
Wrestling Open title against Bara Bronson. Brian Moore is pushing

1058
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,239
Miles into Gassal during another run in, and Casal attempting

1059
00:59:41,239 --> 00:59:43,519
to break up a fight between Stetson and Miles and

1060
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:47,559
ended up arguing with Miles instead. So Stetson ranch has exploded.

1061
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,440
We've had several matches that have had conclusive finishes. So

1062
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:54,000
that leads us to our main event, a Worcester street

1063
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:57,199
fight between Danny Miles and Stephen Stetson. Before the match,

1064
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,840
Rich Paladino reminded, everyone is a street fight. Don't be

1065
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,840
on your phone. I like that because it's like, you know,

1066
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:06,519
if two guys are barreling towards you. We've been in

1067
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:07,519
a few crowds like that.

1068
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't, I famously don't like crowd brawling,

1069
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,440
but you know it is. Yeah, really like you should

1070
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,239
stay on your way. There's lots of reasons you should

1071
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,679
be off your phone.

1072
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,079
Speaker 2: Yes, at a show that you've paid for, right, be

1073
01:00:23,159 --> 01:00:25,719
on your phone later, old man.

1074
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:26,119
Speaker 4: A rent.

1075
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:31,039
Speaker 3: Unless it is you're like calling your your neighbors. Is

1076
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,320
to paraphrace Bobby keenan to let them know that the

1077
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Stetson street Fight was on and they needed to like

1078
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:38,679
watch IDW TV right now.

1079
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: Yes, so it is streaming later, so you don't have to.

1080
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: Do, right, is v O D like anither of us

1081
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,159
watched it live?

1082
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: So no, we very rarely watched shows live. That's the

1083
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,079
whole that's the whole great thing about VOD because sometimes

1084
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:54,760
of their issues and we've had independents shows have been

1085
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:55,559
issue streaming.

1086
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:58,199
Speaker 4: So anyway, Yeah, the.

1087
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: Matter began and they quickly went to the outside. They

1088
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,920
were out there for so long that the commenters had

1089
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,679
to mention that you can only win the match in

1090
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,679
the ring. Had me ask this existential question justin shouldn't

1091
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:10,679
a street fight be false count anywhere?

1092
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:13,119
Speaker 3: It really should?

1093
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:16,559
Speaker 2: Yes, because if they ended up like would be kind

1094
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:21,519
of ridiculous. They ended up in the parking lot, one

1095
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:24,760
person gets knocked out, if the drag them back to

1096
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,800
the ring to pin kind of be ridiculous, right.

1097
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,559
Speaker 3: Or like if you put a guy in like a

1098
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:32,320
submission hole, right, but you're outside the ring, but the

1099
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,039
guys like I quit, I quit that they should still count.

1100
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,039
Speaker 2: Miles missed cannonball into a door bridge, I thought Steps

1101
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:44,559
has moved out of the way. I know this is

1102
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:47,719
bad camera work. Would it appeared that he was pulled

1103
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:51,480
out of the way by Morris. This match became a

1104
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:55,199
very odd too on one match in which Morris got

1105
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:59,159
involved and not all the time, which to me is

1106
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:01,480
one of the issues I have with the booking is

1107
01:02:01,519 --> 01:02:05,320
that either you're gonna help Stetson or you're not. Why

1108
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:08,519
there was one point where Miles almost he got a

1109
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:12,159
near fall on Stetson, and I kind of wanted that

1110
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:14,880
to be the because Miles Morris was very clearly looking

1111
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,440
at them on the outside and kind of half hardly

1112
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,880
dove in the ring to break up the pen. I

1113
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,760
would have loved that to be the finish because it's like,

1114
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:21,880
why are you here?

1115
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

1116
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: Also, like, there's also a point where Miles had a

1117
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,760
crutch wrapped in barbed wire and Morris attacked him and

1118
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,239
took it away, but then just like set it to

1119
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,880
the side and the announcers had to cover and be like, well,

1120
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:41,719
you know, he's mad at the guy, but he's not

1121
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:42,559
that man.

1122
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: It's almost like he was an honorable cheater. Yeah, he's

1123
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,519
like I'll cheat, but there's certain things I just won't

1124
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:55,639
do right, and we we we covered the Stetson Ranch

1125
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,000
when I believe was is Danny Miles wrestled Eye Eye

1126
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:03,679
black Jack or Steven Stetson I can't remember in the

1127
01:03:03,719 --> 01:03:07,480
files of a tournament and basically beat them single handedly.

1128
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:12,519
I thought that, I think, Yeah, I thought the Stetson

1129
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:15,559
Ranch were like no longer to be in the company

1130
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:17,360
and actually d up winning the rest of open titles

1131
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,880
the next day or the next show. I thought the

1132
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,440
psychologist weird, We're very weird with Morris in and out.

1133
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:27,880
But Miles actually was able to beat them both up.

1134
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:35,840
He even was able to hit a moon salt on

1135
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,800
both Morris and Stetson. Morris went to attack Miles with

1136
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,360
Miles and the German suplex and a cannonball in the corner.

1137
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,159
Stetson closedline Miles and went to pin him, and for

1138
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:51,280
some reason that again my issue number two with the booking,

1139
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,719
he pulled them up for a two coup.

1140
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 4: It's a street fight.

1141
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:58,639
Speaker 2: Your partner is in and out helping you hit this

1142
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:03,360
devastating looking you want to win the match. Why did

1143
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,599
he just pin him and then you could attack him out.

1144
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 4: For the match.

1145
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, At least it had hit a blue

1146
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:14,320
thunderbomb that would have been ridiculous.

1147
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah in the giveaway.

1148
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:22,039
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1149
01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:24,559
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1150
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:27,360
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Speaker 2: Miles was able to recover and hit a codebreaker. Everyone

1172
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,960
was down, so Miles is down, Morris is down, Stetson's down.

1173
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,719
Bobby Gasal came down the ring. Which side was he on?

1174
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: Well?

1175
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:38,559
Speaker 2: He grabbed the barbed wire the aforementioned barbed wire crutch

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away from Miles and Stetson, and he and Boris surrounded

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Miles and Casal lifted Miles up. They were going to

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hit a finishing move, but Caassal kicked more It's much

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of Stetson's shock.

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Speaker 4: Gassal and.

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Speaker 2: Miles took out Morris and Stetson and they clutch. Gassell

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handed him the Barbara crutch, which Miles put up against

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Stetsu's neck, causing stets to submit, which the commentaries mentioned

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that was the first time he had submitted. The wrestling

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open and Danny Moles as your winner winning the wester

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Street fight against you Stet's in twenty fifty seconds After

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the match, Miles and Gassal hugged and cheered as the

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show ended Danny Miles again your Winner in twenty minutes

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fifty seconds.

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Speaker 3: So I mean it was had some weird storyline ticks,

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but I think the end it ultimately got to a

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good place. The good things about wrestling open they always

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they're very good at giving their main events this main

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event feel, And I really enjoyed Jake gray A the

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handyman on commentary, Like he went to some like kind

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of weird but places, but he always would like tie

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them into the match in really interesting ways. He did

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this whole thing about relating how the guys were dressed

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to their characters and how it worked in the match.

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Because it's a street five but Danny Miles is dressed

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just like a like his normal wrestling gear, where Stetson

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is in jeans and kind of dressed like more like

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street clothes. And so Greg goes on this whole like

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actually very like profound thing about Miles is dressed normally

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because he knows he's unafraid of the consequences. He knows

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there's some pain involved here, but he's willing to endure

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it to get to Stetson, and Stetson is scared of

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the pain, so he's going to try and dress to

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protect himself even though that's going to limit his movement

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and be more uncomfortable. I was like, wow, that's some

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that's some profound like insight this guy has going on.

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He he did a lot like I was like, this

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guy's great. He I'm sure he wants to be a wrestler,

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but I think he should like pursue commentary because he

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was awesome. Miles is a weird guy. Not weird like funny,

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but he is built like very stocky. But he like

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tries to do a lot of like I don't say,

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like early two thousands, like luchador moves almost or like

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just light heavyweight moves. He did like he did a

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six one nine. He did a frog splash, he did

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like a lion salt to the floor, like offside moon

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salt to the floor where he lands on his feet.

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He did the saboo move where you jump off a

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chair and like hit a leg side like leg drop

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thing on a guy. So I mean he's a good worker.

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He is. He's just I think, like a lot of

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people say you should wrestle, he does not wrestle how

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he should based on like his appearance. I mean, I

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don't think that's necessarily true. It's just kind of an observation,

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like he looks like he would be more of a brawler,

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and yet he really does do a lot of high

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flying stuff. Overall, I mean, like you said, there was

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some kind of weird storyline bits in the match, but

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we did get I think the right payoff with Kassal

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ending up siding with Miles, and now you've you've got

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the split two. You can definitely I think they almost

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have to do a tag team match, like a tag

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team title match off of this, with the remnants of

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the Stetson ranch against Miles and Casal. You could definitely

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a good way to further this program down the line.

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So overall I liked it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's key to note that Stetson and

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01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:43,960
Morris are the tag team champions Wrestling Open, so you're

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setting up an obvious tag team fused for those titles,

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and I see that's the direction that'll be going. So

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that was Wrestling Open episode two thirty six, available on IWTV. Overall,

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I enjoy the show. There was you know, I highlighted

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the feud between Miles and Stetson when I was with

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01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,039
Wade on Monday as something that was a good part

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01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:13,119
of wrestling, that is, doesn't matter what company you're in,

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01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:16,520
telling a story that people buy into. That caused us

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,079
to want to do this match booking issues aside a

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01:10:21,079 --> 01:10:23,399
few issues that I had, I did like the ending

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up finish and the fact that casalad Miles were together

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and I could see attactive you developing out of that,

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you know, again, doing the big business split kind of

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almost like a week behind on.

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Speaker 4: The same show.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not the choice that I would have done, As

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you said, my prediction there that I can say now

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is that love Doug will side with Crawford and not Hollister,

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so be a bit opposite of what we saw here.

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But we'll see when they have their match, I presume

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next week. Also, you know, Wrestling Open has a good

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reputation of finding some wrestlers, and the first you know,

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five matches for the most part, had wrestlers who are

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either just starting out and wrestling Open or maybe a

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,159
little bit further along, but not two have not been

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around too much as opposed to last three matches that

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had wrestlers that have been around for quite a bit

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or had a bit more of a story to it.

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Speaker 4: And another.

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Speaker 2: And so I like that fact that they were able

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to preview our showcase other wrestlers on the come up,

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which is the purpose of independent wrestling. And also I

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:35,279
like the fact that they had a that they had

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:40,399
highlight packages for the wrestlers who were not on the show,

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01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:47,520
keeping them, keeping them are alive and warming people's minds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think wrestling open the strength to me, one

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01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:57,520
of the main strengths is is the good continuity and

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01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,920
storytelling they do. They it's a weekly show and they

1282
01:12:01,039 --> 01:12:04,439
are able to tell like long term, long term feuds

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,279
and build to it in really engaging ways like we've

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01:12:07,319 --> 01:12:11,279
been I think come back to the Stetson read Stetson

1285
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,479
Ranch split several times over like the past few months,

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01:12:16,079 --> 01:12:18,079
and we got a good payoff here, but at the

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01:12:18,079 --> 01:12:20,880
same time, there's still a lot of places they can

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go with it. So it's exciting. But like I said,

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like the show is kind of a split. You get

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the first hours just sort of you guys getting getting

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some time in and while building up some stories for later,

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and then you'll get some payoffs to some stories later

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in the hour, and so it just sort of progresses

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like that week by week and you know that's been

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the strength of the show always and uh to me,

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01:12:46,079 --> 01:12:49,760
it's always just a really fun two hours to watch.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: We will follow up some of those feuds as they

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go forward next week on Wrestling Coast to Coast, Justin

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