WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.839 Welcome back everyone. I'm Keith Woods. I'm my co host 2 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:19.839 and friend Royan. Today, Ryan, we're going to be discussing slop, slopulism, ink, 3 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:23.120 slop in all its forms. I'm not quite sure where 4 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:25.879 to start with this. When when do we think the 5 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.120 slop era began the slopulous era. 6 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.560 As soon as the normy has got free speech. I think. 7 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:40.119 Kind of, yeah, coalesced with the advance of AI and 8 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:46.359 it becoming democratized, and I think probably October seventh as 9 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:50.640 well brought more of the third world to platforms like 10 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:56.000 X and now there are people grifting off this new 11 00:00:56.039 --> 00:01:01.520 audience that are love information, low intelligence, and it's already 12 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:04.879 evolved from the incentives of the attention economy. 13 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.079 I would say, yeah, well. 14 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:12.359 Let's talk about how it concerns nationalism. So as far 15 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:16.239 as the kind of online nationalist subculture, you know, you 16 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:20.280 had the emergence of the old Ride and everything surrounding 17 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:25.040 Trump and Brexit. You doubt initial wave in twenty fourteen, 18 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:28.200 fifteen sixteen. We've talked about this before, but it was 19 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:32.319 a more intellectual right. It kind of had a European 20 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:38.319 continental foundation. People would reference, you know, Julius Evela, YUMPHI, 21 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.319 the French new right about in this kind of stuff, 22 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.959 then heavily hit with censorship. After the Trump election, the 23 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.719 big tech platforms came together and basically conspired to make 24 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.040 sure something like that didn't happen again. The ADL and 25 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.120 similar organizations blexter Muscle, we had a heavy plampdown and 26 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.519 free speech. Practically everyone was banned off YouTube, and yeah, 27 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.599 we were at a pretty bleak period through COVID. It 28 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.920 looked like the censorship was just going to expand and expand, 29 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:11.599 and we'd be limited to gab and Telegram and maybe 30 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:15.360 subsec when that came on board. And then thank god 31 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:19.960 Elon Musk purchased X that changed everything the direction he 32 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.560 sent it in restoring band accounts include my own I 33 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:28.120 was suspended under Jack Dorsey or Paul Singer Twitter, and 34 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.599 at the same time, Rumble coming on board and being 35 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:32.680 a I think, a better success than any of us 36 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:38.039 really expected. That contributed as well. But since then, to 37 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:42.280 my surprise, even platforms like Instagram now are full of 38 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:48.719 right wing nationalist memes, videos, content creators, and yeah, part 39 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:53.039 of it was just the overall relaxation that came about 40 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.560 as a result of Musk's influence and then Trump winning 41 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:59.039 In twenty twenty four, Zuckerberg came out and said, yeah, 42 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:01.439 we kind of went a bit crazy during the Biden era. 43 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.879 Part of it was just I think the flood of 44 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.280 information like TikTok still sensor heavily, but there's just so 45 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:11.759 many new accounts popping up posting this stuff that they 46 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:13.479 can't really keep on top of it. So part of 47 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.439 it is just our own talking points and ideas disseminating 48 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:18.400 that it kind of became the norm and the right 49 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.919 and it can't all be censored to some degree. And then, yeah, 50 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.759 part of it, as you say post October seventh, this 51 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:32.479 huge wave of noticing of views critical of Zionists and 52 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:36.840 Jewish influence and the spread of talking points that used 53 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.639 to be confined to the darkest corners of the internet. 54 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:42.159 On you had to find forums, or you had to 55 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.479 find these odd websines and blogs. Now they're getting blasted 56 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.599 out on TikTok and Instagram and similar platforms for tens 57 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.240 of millions of views. But yeah, it's created this new 58 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.560 type of right winger. I don't know if ill even 59 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.039 called them right wing, but it's created this anti he 60 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.439 Zionist politics of someone who's pretty low information. They went 61 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:07.680 through BLM, they went through Covered, they went through all 62 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:12.599 these things and the remainder political and now in twenty 63 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:17.040 twenty four or five or six, and they've suddenly they've 64 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:21.319 suddenly been red pilled by TikTok edits and it's a 65 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.000 certain demographic. 66 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:28.120 Literally, just before we started recording this, I saw a 67 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:32.839 thread with two point eight million views claiming that Donald 68 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:39.560 Trump had text with his daughter, like, and it's it's 69 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.079 multiple times a day you'll see this kind of just 70 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:47.519 absolute nonsense with half a million impressions, millions of impressions, 71 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:52.040 and it's just like, how do you create anything political 72 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.560 when this is the kind of thing that you're faced with. 73 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:59.279 It's just the Epstein Files, the recent release were a 74 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:02.399 peak because you could just every day, yeah, you'd see 75 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:05.519 posts with millions of impressions, and you could just put 76 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:09.800 anything out. You could say, I can't believe the Epstein 77 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:13.600 files proved that Bill Gates ad a baby, and it 78 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:17.959 would be like twenty million impressions, one hundred thousand likes, 79 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.120 Like people were just posting the most insane self claiming 80 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:24.600 it was in the Epstein files. And I mean, yeah, 81 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.600 it got some challenge obviously because it's good content. There's 82 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:33.079 also this other niche of slop that's emerged, which is 83 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:39.040 Indians are you know, they'll do like relationship advice, they'll 84 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:45.120 do crypto scams, they'll do a geopolitics, they'll do Inevitable 85 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:50.399 West whatever it is. It's like, you know, getting millions 86 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:53.720 of impressions. But I think it was actually a really 87 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.360 good thing that X created this feature where you can 88 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.800 see where the account is based. That at least brought 89 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:00.959 truth back. 90 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:05.600 Well that's another factor is demonetization must introduced a cheer 91 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:09.639 revenue on on X and that that has totally changed things. Yeah, 92 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:13.560 I mean that was you know, that was the origin 93 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:14.360 point of a lot of. 94 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:17.519 You get paid for lion, that's basically yeah. 95 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.680 And you just have you huge amounts of creators such 96 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.120 as outsources everything today. I know, so you have huge 97 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.959 news aggregator accounts that you know, write these posts. Here's 98 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.480 the update on the round war, and it's just so 99 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.680 clear from the cadence and everything that he's just feening 100 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.399 into chat GPT and reposting it. And that's it's probably 101 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.000 more than half the news accounts. And then yeah, like 102 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.040 you said, so that you have a ton of accounts 103 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.240 from Nigeria and India specifically another parts of the third 104 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.399 world that realized you can get a lot of impressions. 105 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:53.920 You know, hit a relationship niche, hit a right wing 106 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:58.279 politics niche, shit a war coverage niche, and they just 107 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.720 produced the most low grade mass appeal AI generated slop. 108 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.199 And that's unfortunately a lot of people's feeds. 109 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:08.560 Now And there are many millions of bottle counts on 110 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.199 the platform. It's like, you know, accounts pretending to be 111 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.839 women with forty followers and they'll have like the most 112 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:19.199 generic replies. I don't even know what the purpose of 113 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:23.959 that is. Maybe it's to sell on later for political purposes. 114 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:29.720 Maybe it's to you know, get algorithmic support for other 115 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:35.079 accounts that you know they're operating. But you know, it's 116 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.480 all contributing to post truth. You know, you could accuse 117 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:45.600 the legacy media of starting that that ethos, and now 118 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.240 it's been democratized and people are very skeptical of the mainstream. 119 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:55.480 They've created their own post truth mythos, and yeah, that's 120 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:59.959 where we are. I think it's contributing to distracting people 121 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:05.439 massively from real politics. 122 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.959 You know, learning, and. 123 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:14.680 Yeah, it's hard to say anything productive coming from from 124 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.720 this kind of environment. It's it's almost as if it's 125 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:22.720 by design to just leave people enslaved. 126 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.519 Well, I guess we should talk about how it's affected 127 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:30.720 the nationalist movement. I mean, a lot of the stuff 128 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:34.120 post October seventh, the anti Zionist stuff, it's you could 129 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:38.039 say nationalists adjacent. And you know, nationalists have always had 130 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:43.559 this critique of Zionist influence subverting Western foreign policy, dragon 131 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.440 Western countries into unproductive wars on Israel's behalf, you know, 132 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:51.600 the foreign aid and sharing military intelligence and tech and 133 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:56.399 so on. So nationalists, people that talk about Jewish influence 134 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.200 were some of the only people blasted that out for 135 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.480 a long time. And of course, only a lot of 136 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:04.000 stuff becomes basically mainstream since October seventh, and you have 137 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:08.399 You've got Ana Kasparian was on Twitter. What was the 138 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:11.000 thing she said, you know, the guymer waking up it 139 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:15.080 with something like that. So yeah, now you've, like manstream 140 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.440 leftists blasted some of this stuff out, but yeah, it 141 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:23.120 created a new kind of influencer, you know. I guess 142 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.159 Ian Carroll is a good example like that. That was 143 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.440 a guy who was. I think he was kind of 144 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.759 a political up until a couple of years ago. But 145 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.679 you know, he does kind of generic conspiracy content. And 146 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.480 it said generic in that it's not really pushing any 147 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:42.200 ideological angle, Like there isn't like an identitarian critique of 148 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:46.559 Zionist influence or anything like this. It's it's just kind 149 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.279 of generic conspiracy land stuff. 150 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:50.120 You know. It's like the. 151 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.600 Vegas shooting was staged, it was something involved in the 152 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:56.399 Saudi royal succession dispute. 153 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:00.600 He was onto some good stuff, like he did a 154 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:02.440 I think nine to eleven. 155 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.720 Yeah, but I mean it's I mean, that's the thing. 156 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.399 You just lists a bunch of conspiracies. But it's like 157 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:10.240 it's conspiracy as a genre. 158 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:10.720 Yeah. 159 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:14.320 Yeah, I'm saying he built his audience in something that 160 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:16.480 was interesting and partaking. 161 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:17.039 But that's the thing. 162 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:18.639 It's like this is a genre now. It's like, oh, 163 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.440 today I'm going to cover this conspiracy and tomorrow I'm 164 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:25.320 going to cover the JFK assassination, and Thursday we're doing 165 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:29.360 the Vegas shooting. And it's like the point becomes the conspiracy, 166 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.080 Like the end in itself is the conspiracy, and there 167 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:36.120 isn't really any ideological angles pushing. I think it's it's 168 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.200 an interesting illustration. Like if you go to his website, 169 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:42.279 you look at the merchandise he selling, it's like inflation 170 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:45.679 is theft. You know, It's like it's like a I 171 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.679 don't know, an anti inflation activist. I guess he's like 172 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:51.200 maybe he's like a gold bug, which is like a 173 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:54.240 very libertarian position, but then he'd have super left wing positions. 174 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.200 He'd probably talk about, you know, the wealth inequality and 175 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:02.639 the Epstein class, Robin everyone true through unfairwealth disparities, this 176 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:05.440 kind of thing, but there isn't really an ideological cord 177 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.519 to this stuff. I think that's what's different from the past. 178 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:11.840 Like in the past you had maybe libertarian critiques of 179 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.720 Zionist influence. You had pages like Lou Rockwell that would 180 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.200 document a lot of this stuff, and you even had 181 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:24.039 leftist critiques. James Petrius who died recently, very underrated guy. 182 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:25.720 He wrote, he wrote a book I think it's just 183 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.159 called the Jewish Lobby in the United States or the 184 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.440 Power of the Jewish Lobby in the United States. And 185 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:34.679 he's a leftist coming from kind of a Marxist critique 186 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:37.440 of foreign policy, like post colonial, but still did some 187 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.320 really interesting research on the influence of APAK and so on. 188 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:44.840 And like I said, you've did the Nationals critique, but 189 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.840 now it's just like the the ideology is the conspiracy. 190 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.039 That's sort of what's changed. It's the same with Candace. 191 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.759 What does Candace really believe? Well, I don't know. You know, 192 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:57.960 she's Christian, she's like pro life beliefs, but then you know, 193 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.759 does that does any is there any coher belief They're 194 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:04.080 as far as like what the country should look like. 195 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.000 I mean, it's just basically there's evil people in charge 196 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.960 and you know, ours nervousive content of the various things 197 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:14.879 they're potentially doing. So there's there's no real ideological court 198 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.600 to any of this stuff. Now it's just sort of amorphous. 199 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:20.440 Non ideological elites are bad. 200 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:27.360 Yeah, it's the incentive structure of the platform. It's I 201 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:31.200 would say even the biological incentive of the producer. A 202 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:36.679 lot of these people are, you know, have some kind 203 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:42.200 of neurological disorder where they require increasing amounts of attention. 204 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:48.639 I think it's strongly associated with dark triad characteristics and 205 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:55.759 the algorithms incentivized daily content, novelty content, and Yeah, it 206 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:57.159 just becomes a cycle of. 207 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:58.080 More and more. 208 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:07.000 Outrage. And you know, even when they're getting at something 209 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:11.679 that may be true as something slightly political, they redirect 210 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:14.279 it and it ends up being the Jesuits and the 211 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:17.440 Catholic Church or whoever that was actually responsible. 212 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.440 So and once you see there, I'm saying there's no 213 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:27.000 ideological core, but actually because there's none, it kind of 214 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:33.120 falls back on tacit leftism, you know, the kind of 215 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:36.519 societal taken for granted leftist premises. That's what kind of 216 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:38.960 fills that void. When when you don't have an ideology, 217 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:40.960 when you don't have something positive you're putting forward, when 218 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.759 it's just critique, you basically fall back on the easy, 219 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.840 ready made moral critiques of your enemy that are most 220 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:50.320 acceptable to the largest possible audience, which is going to 221 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:55.240 be they're racist, they're white supremacists, they hate black people, 222 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:58.000 they hate poor people. It's the rich robin the poor. 223 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:00.399 And that's that's kind of what it goes back to. 224 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.200 You know, you mentioned the you know, like blaming on 225 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.440 the Jesuits, Like you see this with someone like candae 226 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.120 Owan's right, she sees this wave of anti Israel sentiment 227 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:13.600 and she becomes this big spokesperson basically for anti Semitism. 228 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:17.960 But then of course she's not gonna take that difficult 229 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:21.240 kind of ideological stance and defend something that's that outside 230 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:23.559 the Overton windows. So it becomes no, actually, these are 231 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:27.279 fact Jews, these are Kazarians that converted to Judaism, and 232 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:29.799 they're actually given the real Jews, who are the chosen 233 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.600 people a bad names. That's her stance, or with some 234 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.759 of the other kind of generic conspiracy content. You know, 235 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:38.120 what does it fall back on. It starts out about 236 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:41.919 you know, Jews, zionis power and so on, and that 237 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:46.200 seems to have an identitarian element, and then it turns into, well, 238 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:49.399 they want to keep us divided, and they've invented left 239 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:55.600 versus right, and black versus white, and racial differences, gender differences. 240 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.840 All the stuff is just like cultural or distraction, and 241 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.000 it basically turns in to this, like, you know, occupy 242 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.320 Wall Street, we should all come together as one and 243 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:08.120 take on the bankers, who also don't have any identity, right, 244 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:12.759 they're some group that's motivated by you know, Satanism or 245 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.320 whatever weird occultic beliefs they have. But it's basically this 246 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:23.440 nefarious group of villains versus the masses that really we're 247 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:27.000 all united, and racial differences, all these things don't matter. 248 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.600 That's just created by by the elites or maybe even 249 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:33.120 the Zionists to keep us divided. So when you have 250 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.480 this just generic conspiracy content, it always seems to default 251 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:37.840 into a kind of leftism. 252 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:44.440 Yeah, it always ends up being more we need more democracy, 253 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:49.399 more liberty to overcome this invisible tyrant. But you know, 254 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:54.879 these people just seem to have no understanding of sociology 255 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:58.559 or no theory of minds, like you know, a great 256 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:04.039 example would be the assassination of Charlie Kirk that very 257 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:09.360 quickly became a big conspiracy, Whereas I think the basic 258 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:14.519 explanation was that the assassin, what probably had autism, was 259 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.600 probably radicalized by all the you know, woke stuff that's 260 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.240 been happening in the culture for the last decade, and 261 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.519 he was in some kind of gay relationship, and you know, 262 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:31.360 saw saw himself as a hero standing up for the 263 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.080 righteous mob against the evil fascists. I mean, it's like 264 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.720 Ockham's razor and no longer applies, and all these people 265 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:42.120 on the internet have to have some elaborate conspiracy. 266 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:46.879 Yeah, well, you know, it's crazy how further conspiracy traveled. 267 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.720 But yeah, I mean we have they have his DNA 268 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:51.840 on the weapon, right, Like all of it hasn't come 269 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:53.919 out yet. They're like, oh, why doesn't the FBI release 270 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:55.879 every single piece of evidence. It's like, well, he's likes 271 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:57.480 to have a trail, you know, like we're going to 272 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:00.320 see this stuff at the trail. You know it's going 273 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.799 to be proved totally beyond reasonable doubt. I mean, yeah, 274 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.880 Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk, but the conspiracy content around that, 275 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.559 it was just next level with this stuff. You know, 276 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:12.720 it's like you could kind of look past or to 277 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:16.039 see this as beneficial to degree. In the time after 278 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:19.680 October seventh, everything was very focused on Israel, Israeli influenced. 279 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:22.680 It was all rooted in reality and in a real 280 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.200 critique and a real issue, even if maybe some of 281 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:27.799 the details were wrong. It's like, look, the ADL does 282 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:33.519 have this huge influence. There is this huge foreign influence 283 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.480 operation on behalf of this foreign power, and people were 284 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:38.759 able to kind of unite around that. But then after 285 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:42.119 Charlie Kirk, Yeah, it's like these people came into politics 286 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.039 a couple of years ago. This is the only lens 287 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:47.680 through which they can view anything now, and so Charlie 288 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.599 Kirk getting killed has to be a Zionist plot. And 289 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.880 I mean the amount of slop that's been produced dround 290 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:58.319 that topic. You know, since then you have content creators 291 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:03.599 that just analyze the phone footage of the crowd before 292 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:06.440 Charlie Kirk was killed. And I've just been months making 293 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:10.000 videos analyzing it of like why does this guy five 294 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:15.000 rows back twitch his cap ten seconds before Kirk is shot? 295 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:15.799 You know, it got to. 296 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.640 The point why is he touching the cap? 297 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.440 It got to the point where the theory was like 298 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.799 a drone flew over Charlie Kirk. At some point his 299 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:29.440 best friend and head of security twitched his cap to 300 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.960 give the signal to begin the operation. There were a 301 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:36.039 dozen people in the crowd wearing maroon T shirts, which, 302 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:40.920 according to Candice owns our Special Forces outfits. So then 303 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:44.559 they sort of began communicating facially with each other. Then 304 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.519 the guy in the front row, some boomer, shot Kirk 305 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.720 with his palm pistol, which actually shot him at a 306 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:54.039 different angle than we are allowed to believe. The bullet 307 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:59.319 came from or potentially his lapel microphone exploded Mossad style 308 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:00.680 on which. 309 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:01.160 Theory you go with? 310 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.519 And yeah, this big elaborate explanation. Then the rest of 311 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.160 the security team ran in and like snatched stuff off 312 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.559 his body to hide the evidence. And then a black 313 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:16.599 guy came in and eluded the baseball caps that Kirk 314 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:20.000 was selling because he was involved in hiding the evidence 315 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.440 that there may have been ballistics on those caps, so 316 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:27.119 that that's actually why he looted the caps before they cleaned. 317 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.640 Heard the sin and yeah, you go through that and 318 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.359 it's like, wouldn't it be simpler to say a guy 319 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:36.160 shot him with a rifle? You know, they're talking about 320 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:40.000 how unrealistic it is that the rifle would not penetrate 321 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.400 the back of his spine and go through is his skin, 322 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:47.359 And it's like, you put all those pieces together, it's like, 323 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:49.920 are we still saying that's the less likely explanation? Because 324 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.079 even if it was the conspiracies, wouldn't they just have 325 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:54.599 someone shoot him with a rifle? But yeah, it just 326 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:57.759 becomes the conspiracy is the end in itself. You know, 327 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.960 you talk to these people sometimes and it is actually 328 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:03.759 like the more elaborate the conspiracy is, the more they're 329 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:06.680 likely to believe it. You know, whoever, it was like 330 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.960 this arms race after Charlie Kirk where they were like 331 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.200 competing for the most elaborate conspiracies. Ago Candace Owens is 332 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:16.359 saying it was a saying it was a it was 333 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:18.960 a rifle that came from someone popping his head out 334 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.480 of the underground bunker. Well, you know, actually I have 335 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:24.880 this far more elaborate theory about a pan pistol and 336 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.960 a robot bird. You know, it's now my theory is 337 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:31.279 the winner, and somehow the conspiraties just go to whatever 338 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:33.920 the most complex theory is, and it was just getting 339 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.480 more and more elaborate over time. But yeah, I mean 340 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.799 it's just you know, the psychology. It is weird. But 341 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:40.720 I mean I think it just comes down to it's 342 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:44.720 just entertainment for these people, you know, it's the entertaining 343 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.599 conspiracy content, the new video dropping every day. I mean, 344 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.279 Candace has made hundreds of hours of conspiracy content around 345 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:57.960 Charlie Kirk's death. Now the French arms dealers have been involved, 346 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.319 and the Cron's have been involved. The Egyptian Air Force, 347 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:08.400 all of TPUSA, Bill Ackman, Natanya, who were now at 348 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:11.960 the point of Erica Kirk being involved, and I mean 349 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.079 it's just she's really a master. It's like, how long 350 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:16.279 is she going to keep this going? Like two years 351 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:18.759 from his death, we will still be getting new angles 352 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:19.599 on the conspiracy. 353 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:24.119 To be fair, there was a crazy jew on site 354 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:29.640 that he claimed that he had shot Charlie. So initially 355 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.319 I could, you know, sympathize with people that got caught 356 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.359 up in the conspiracy, but it quickly became clear that 357 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:39.759 that guy is like a regular on the circuit. He 358 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.920 was going to like every event and just you know, 359 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:47.039 saying crazy stuff. He was some kind of demented leftists 360 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:50.440 and he has been charged since for obstruction and investigation. 361 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:54.799 You know, I was actually, you know, quite skeptical of 362 00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:57.880 it being a pro hit, like at the time because 363 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.640 it was September tenth, it was a long range shot 364 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.559 and all that, But when you saw the video of 365 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:06.480 him making the escape, it was so unprofessional. I was 366 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.559 just like, Okay, it's just you know, it's just I 367 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:14.599 want to be hero assassin like probably some kid it was. 368 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.119 You know, he had to jump off a building from 369 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:21.720 I don't know what twenty feet and he obviously hurt himself. 370 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:24.079 He was limping off, it was just so unprofessional it 371 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:32.440 became clear. And yeah, the only possible conspiracy left would 372 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:34.759 be if he was radicalized by some kind of foreign 373 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:36.799 agent on a chat room, which is possible. 374 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.880 But his dad also turned them in, so apparently his 375 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:41.119 dad is also in the conspiracy. 376 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.880 Well in the US do they always seem to work 377 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.039 for the FBI or some CIO contractor or whatever. But 378 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:51.759 you know what's interesting about a lot of these conspiracies 379 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.440 is they, like people that follow them, always point to 380 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:00.519 traditional nodes of authority. So in this case, you had 381 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.920 like army veterans that claim to be snipers or whatever, 382 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.119 and they were doing analysis on like the path of 383 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.559 the bullet and whether the penetration on the flesh was 384 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:15.759 significant enough to really be the bullet that the investigators said. 385 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.640 And during COVID, anyone that had doctor in front of 386 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:24.200 their name was always seen as an authority by you know, skeptics. 387 00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:28.240 And now we've got, you know, this professor Young who's 388 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:32.359 like this friendly enough seeming Chinese guy. And this is 389 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:36.119 again interesting because I think in general East Asians are 390 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:40.640 very truthful and they're seen as a you know, a 391 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:44.920 beacon of academic truth. So he's kind of adopted this. 392 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:48.119 Persona. 393 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:53.839 He's built millions of followers on platforms, and then again 394 00:23:53.920 --> 00:24:00.960 it's like Jesuits and you know whatever else, Frank Sabatine 395 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.440 and Frank Kiss. It's like all these code names for 396 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.559 Jews that it's not actually the Jews, it's just all 397 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:11.640 these adjacent groups that are actually you know, behind things. 398 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.319 So I've seen you been going off to him lately. 399 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:16.720 Yeah, I discovered this guy recently. I mean I saw 400 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:19.880 he was super popular, never really looked into it, and 401 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:22.720