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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Making It So. This is episode number

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight. On this we are covering a strange New

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<v Speaker 1>World's Season four, episode two, the Griffin Incident.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig and my co host Steve all the way over

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<v Speaker 1>there in the US in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you going, buddy?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, ma'am?

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<v Speaker 2>How's it looking over there? Mate? It's what?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a nice summer day here. It's a Queensland winter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about twenty degrees during the day, twenty degrees celsius.

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<v Speaker 3>So not even I'm counting down, the d is still

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<v Speaker 3>fall I can't stand somewhere. As you know, I love

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<v Speaker 3>the fall over here in New England is pretty fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>So noice.

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<v Speaker 1>on all sorts of different social medias. It'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>the Get into Geek podcast channel as well, and it'll be.

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<v Speaker 2>All over my socials.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find myself on Geeking Camo, on Facebook, Instagram threads.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now on x as well for those people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or Twitter for those that still know it as Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Apart from that, a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of news.

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<v Speaker 1>So at Comic Con the other day, they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a new Star Trek movie that they're working on,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said it's going to be in a future

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't covered before or something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure if they're talking about like post

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<v Speaker 1>Discovery future or if they're talking like post Picard future.

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<v Speaker 1>In that I'm really hoping it's in the post Picard future,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not going to be a crew that we've

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<v Speaker 1>used or followed before, so it's gonna be a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new crew and a whole new movie. Now, from what

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell, they didn't say it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a streaming movie or a cinema movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's he nor there.

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<v Speaker 1>So Okay, as we know, Steve and I will be

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<v Speaker 1>getting into full spoilers for this episode A Strange New World,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you haven't watched the episode yet and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be spoiled, please just pause this recording

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<v Speaker 1>now wherever you are, go watch the episode and then

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<v Speaker 1>come back. If you don't mind being spoiled, continue listening on. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's a no an issue for us. So

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<v Speaker 1>where shall we go for the synopsis this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Steve? Shall we go off IMDb or Prime Video? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you reckon? We'll paramount there?

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<v Speaker 3>What one looks more ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>They're both equal? This week? I amb D, I am

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<v Speaker 2>dB dB okay.

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<v Speaker 1>IMDb synopsis says Spock, Laan, and Kirk board a lost

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<v Speaker 1>Federation ship where an old mystery becomes a survival crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Prime says la Spock and Kirk get trapped

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<v Speaker 1>on a mysterious long lost Federation ship.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think Prime did a better job. They're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of setting up like much.

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<v Speaker 1>But this episode it was a written and was written

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<v Speaker 1>by Robbie Thompson and directed by Axel Carolyn, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if I've ever seen them on any anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So this episode opens with a personal log of James T.

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>He's hitching a ride back home with Spock and l

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<v Speaker 1>on a shuttle after they were at some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a retreat where some admiral was. It was basically a

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<v Speaker 1>at Dixon seminar. Of course, on their way back, they

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<v Speaker 1>detect a distress signal. So I'm actually wondering where they

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<v Speaker 1>had to go for the seminar, because back in this

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<v Speaker 1>time those shuttles didn't exactly go massively fast either with

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<v Speaker 1>their warp capability, so I'm hoping it wasn't too far

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<v Speaker 1>that they had to go, but they detect.

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<v Speaker 2>A distress signal. So one thing that I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit like Spock was concerned with La about her

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<v Speaker 2>distraction at the retreat. You know, I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed a bit Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't necessarily Yeah, they don't necessarily scene. We understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're together. You don't need to hammer in the feelings

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<v Speaker 3>every time you get the chance to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yes, Star Trek has always covered relationships and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just, I don't know, it just didn't well.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on in this episode there is a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>of their relationship and you know, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But they come across.

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<v Speaker 3>Better done though, it's better done. As Nichols into the episode, absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that particular was kind of like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they come across like a bit of an asteroid

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<v Speaker 1>field sort of thing, and in it they find the

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<v Speaker 1>USS Griffin n CC one zero six seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution class ship looking at it all right, now, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the USS Constitution the one the class was named after.

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<v Speaker 1>It's registry number one seven zero zero, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so, because Yeah, usually with the classes of ships,

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<v Speaker 1>they all, you know, for they start ye one seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven zero one one seven zero two and so forth right.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously the Enterprise, as.

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<v Speaker 1>We get into next gen and all that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>they just go one seven zero one abc D.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, eight eight whatever, you know, for instance, and

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight zero one or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So Howard sixty seven, Yeah, one.

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<v Speaker 2>Zero six seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to me that didn't make sense. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>had been missing for nine years apparently this ship too, so.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a mission ships out there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually makes me wonder how many ships over the

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<v Speaker 1>years that Stafleet has actually lost.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was thinking about it when I was going

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, how many times has this happened? And how

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<v Speaker 3>many more ships like that? Is there? Have they lost

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<v Speaker 3>like a total of like seventy ships or you know

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<v Speaker 3>the making of Stifleet so like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and they had what three it said they

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah with Captain Taggart and they were all gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So as they are prepping for the away mission, they

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk was like, oh, yeah, well lucky I was a

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<v Speaker 1>boy scout and yeah, he's always prepared and he's got

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<v Speaker 2>Torch and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah, everyone's got their little go bag,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, sir for that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Me just getting back to like Kirk being on the

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<v Speaker 3>Enterprise and why he's there. It just seemed like another

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<v Speaker 3>reason for them to kind of filter him in with

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<v Speaker 3>the crew that's presently there and you know what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen in the future when he eventually takes it over.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously that's the case to trying to make him more

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<v Speaker 3>of like a familiar face of the show. I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was kind of hand fisted to get him

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<v Speaker 3>in there a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit his current here we go, his current ship must

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<v Speaker 1>be always pretty close to the Enterprise at the moment, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was thinking. I'm like, how is he

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<v Speaker 3>How is it always the Enterprise? I don't think people

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes understand how many ships are in Starfleet. Yeah, thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>ten to fifteen thousand ships, and it says always the

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<v Speaker 3>Enterprise that happens to be near him. It's just odd.

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<v Speaker 3>It just seems very hand fisted if you really step

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<v Speaker 3>back and think of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually like him playing Kirk, though.

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<v Speaker 1>He he is very much playing a younger Kirk, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense obviously, but you can see little parts in

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<v Speaker 1>there occasionally of where he has watched Shatner and learned

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<v Speaker 1>from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I will say this, I may not love the

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<v Speaker 3>character like to me, like like everybody said up the jump,

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<v Speaker 3>he does look like a bargain story Jim Carey to me,

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot get that out of my head. I cannot

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<v Speaker 3>undersee it whatsoever. But the more that he's been in

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<v Speaker 3>the show, the more I've got used to him. Because

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<v Speaker 3>obviously he's here to stay and the more I've just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of gotten past that and looked at his mannerisms,

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<v Speaker 3>the maneurisms in the little Slate Kirk things that he's

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<v Speaker 3>done was very evident in this episode. Actually, it was

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<v Speaker 3>definitely noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>So very smartly before they beamed over to the Griffin,

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<v Speaker 1>Spock sent a message with the coordinates and everything to

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<v Speaker 1>the Enterprise by long range, which I thought was very

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<v Speaker 1>smart to do that, so, you know, excellent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let them know what they're doing. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably would have been more smart to leave one

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<v Speaker 1>of them on the shuttle and only send two over.

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<v Speaker 2>For the ship. Yeah, or tactics the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You leave one on there and then you can automatic

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<v Speaker 1>any issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Or send a full compliment of crew if you really

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<v Speaker 3>wonder about what's going over there. If it pissed me

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<v Speaker 3>off so much when they were worried about what was

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<v Speaker 3>going on, none of them had their freaking feezers so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>But even though it didn't do anything, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, as soon as they beam over to the Griffin,

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<v Speaker 1>Laarn comments that the artificial gravity is on because she

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<v Speaker 1>was expecting to be floating, which totally makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad that they didn't mention that because that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some people could have made an.

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<v Speaker 2>Issue about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad they did mention that because that ship,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, had been lost for nine years. Straight Away,

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk hears a baby crying, but nobody else hears it,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're like, what is going on here? So straight

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<v Speaker 1>away though, this episode made me think of Event Horizon.

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<v Speaker 3>When you thought it felt like adventurism, Ah, maybe, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>as I say, that didn't give me the vibe then,

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<v Speaker 3>But actually right when I saw that, you'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>But the character, the first character that we see a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them, that's when I kind of get the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, okay, yeah, well when I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>pick up one.

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<v Speaker 3>Event Horizon to be fair, but I felt like it

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<v Speaker 3>was very similar to some other horror sci fi that

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, would Event Horizon come out? And I think what

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven and Sam Neil was in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week we were doing a bit of Jurassic Park,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a Sam Neil movie as well. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what we're going to rip off of a Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Neil movie next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so the ship itself has just this creepy empty

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, maybe it was the Nate shift or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>They figure out that they've got one hour of life

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<v Speaker 2>It's just weird. So what the hell has happened on

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, they were checking through the computers as well,

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<v Speaker 2>Shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did learn though that Starfleet has a what's

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<v Speaker 1>that looks after unexplained phenomenon, which I thought was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how do you like that? There's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, so obviously we've got Division twelve, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>That or sections.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so section the name section thirty one actually comes

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, but which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, yeah, what other parts of the Federation Charter

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, you never know, they could do it, It could

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<v Speaker 1>So they're strolling down the hall, I guess, and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then it disappears like that goes around a corner

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<v Speaker 2>So already we're like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But you always follow the creepy zombie on an empty

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<v Speaker 1>Well, every creepy horror movie, like there's you know, someone

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<v Speaker 3>With the flashlights, the flashlight's just a beam instead of

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<v Speaker 1>Bright the old trope of flickering the flashlight. Did they

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<v Speaker 1>which was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It was brighter than most horror movies that the flashlight,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you ever noticed it, it's just like, why

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<v Speaker 3>why do they have a flashlight if it's not eliminating.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything anyway, So.

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<v Speaker 1>That creepy zombie thing says that I've been waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>you as it like disappears, so it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Then you know, we actually get the opening titles of

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<v Speaker 2>So that's around about the eight minute mark, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Much earlier than last week's like fifteen minutes in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good cold open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was opening so that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no life signs on this ship at all,

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<v Speaker 1>despite what they had just seen, but they were detecting

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<v Speaker 1>some negatively charged ions. So Spocks said that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk's like you mean ghosts and spots Like no, I

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<v Speaker 1>said negatively charged ions. Anyway, they come across a door

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<v Speaker 1>which is to Sick Bay, we learn which is got

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<v Speaker 1>these bars welded across it, which is cool. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>got a little bit of Walking Dead vibes from that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever seen that show, The Walking.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead where just the first season.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, any zombie sort of thing really like you get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if there's zombies inside, you're going to weld

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<v Speaker 1>the doors closed, like, but then they decide, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>But there's Starfleet phaser.

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<v Speaker 1>Burns around and on this door there are also kling

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<v Speaker 1>On Disruptor and Vulcan phaser burns, So you know what

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<v Speaker 1>Vulcan ship come across this thing, and what kling On

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<v Speaker 1>ship came across this thing as well, and we're just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>They all, you know, disappear on the ship as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So you wouldn't think after Vulcans had disappeared, they would

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<v Speaker 3>at least communicate that with I mean it had been

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Kirk starts hearing the child crying again, and

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<v Speaker 1>he starts to walk off, and then Lahan stops him

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<v Speaker 1>as they lower the barricades on the door. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hearing all this creepy stuff. A door has been

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<v Speaker 1>deliberately welded closed and had bars put across it. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to pull those off. Yeah, real smart guys,

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<v Speaker 1>let's uh help.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, they go into you know, sick Bay and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of empty body bags. Now, one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I did notice about those empty body bags, each individual

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<v Speaker 2>Member's name on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Preordained.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so like you know, if I was a crew

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<v Speaker 1>member on that ship and then I died, they'd go

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<v Speaker 1>and find my body bag. That to me was very

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<v Speaker 1>very weird because you know, coming from my military background,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, they don't have that you know, marked

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. They just have a body bag and then

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<v Speaker 1>they'll put a name on it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like a very drastic measure to have for every

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<v Speaker 3>single you know, potential death on the ship. It is

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, very very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, why would you put the name on it?

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<v Speaker 3>Just have a bunch of body bags they give they

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<v Speaker 3>like a random member of the crew with a stumble crust, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you have a body bag for me? Interesting, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>get why they do, but isn't that something that you

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<v Speaker 3>could also materialize with a you know, like what do

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<v Speaker 3>you call it?

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<v Speaker 2>Missing the word?

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't really have replicators per se at this period either,

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<v Speaker 3>Could do material and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They could do a certain amount, but I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if it just seems absolute waste to me to be

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<v Speaker 1>having each each crew member when they come on board,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, come with like a pack that's got their

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<v Speaker 1>One of my jobs today is to print a new

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or just switched the tag from the person who

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<v Speaker 2>Decide that they're going to head off to the bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Before they go, though, Lan tells Spock to stay safe

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<v Speaker 1>and gives him a kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>By they say's let's split up. It's like the number one,

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<v Speaker 3>you know all horror movies. I knew she was going

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<v Speaker 3>to say it before she said it, And she goes,

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<v Speaker 3>let's let up, and like, you got kidding me? Why

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<v Speaker 3>would you split up? Right now? What a terrible idea anyway, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So on their way to the bridge, Kirk and

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<v Speaker 1>Lahn are talking about Carol and David. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not familiar and you haven't watched all of this, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't fully have an idea on Kirk and

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<v Speaker 1>his relationship. He has a partner Carol, Carol Marcus, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have a son called David. That becomes very relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>Was in Star Trek five, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's well, it's a country. It's the one with con

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<v Speaker 3>which I just watched the other day, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>Return of Spark or the Church for Spark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Something happened to him, yes, yes, well.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in a spoilers section he dies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. You haven't seen those movies by now, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing, Christopher Lloyd? Come on? Uh? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So Kirk then asks Larn about her family and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, yeah, well, Staflee, it's my family, which she's

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<v Speaker 1>basically a career officer, Like this is it for her?

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<v Speaker 1>She's yeah, because of her augmented family background and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't want anything to do with it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just Starfleet is her family, and that is it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also a way for her to dodge around

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<v Speaker 3>the question, of course, you know what I mean, or

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<v Speaker 3>about her past.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we saw this creepy figure in the hall

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<v Speaker 1>behind them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a little bit weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they sort of felt it as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they were like, oh, well, there's no negatively dions.

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<v Speaker 1>So then they enter the turbo lift to the bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a little bit of an inconsistency thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So early on in Strange New Worlds, when they get

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<v Speaker 1>in the turbo lifts, they would hold on to the

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<v Speaker 1>little handle thing on the wall and twist it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've stopped doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously in the original series that that's what they would do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's one thing about the show I don't really love.

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<v Speaker 3>And it comes to the end when perfect example is

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<v Speaker 3>pakes Quarters. Nothing seems to fit for that error in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of ways, some stuff some stuff does, most

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<v Speaker 3>of it doesn't. I still like it, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily fit with that err and I feel like they

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<v Speaker 3>could have done a little better with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course in certain areas.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So Spark is interrogating the computer trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find out what actually happened, and he figures out that

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<v Speaker 1>all of them were beamed off the ship somehow, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them, well no, not all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few, I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there were.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty seven were beamed directly into space. Yeah, right, thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>victims and there was something else. Yeah, but those two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty seven were beamed into space while they

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<v Speaker 1>were still alive. And it seems that that into space,

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<v Speaker 1>was it? Lieutenant Harper, the security chief from her reports,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that being beamed straight into space?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucked instant death though, so instant, you weren't even I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the temperature out there is so colle so yeah, just

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<v Speaker 3>a vacuum itself is going to kill youself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a knockol, knockol at all. Anyway, Spock, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets himself trapped in sick bay, all right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the coms aren't working. Now when he turns around, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the body bags that are laying on,

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<v Speaker 1>like the biobeds and stuff in the sick bay there

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<v Speaker 1>are filled with bodies.

429
00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:24.200
<v Speaker 2>What the hell is going on? What the hell is

430
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:24.680
<v Speaker 2>going on?

431
00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.279
<v Speaker 1>And then blood starts pulling in them. This is just like,

432
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 1>how is this happening?

433
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:36.519
<v Speaker 3>You know? It's Hour of Star Trek ever, so.

434
00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, like they'd already done like a zombie episode.

435
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it was last season. Anyway, is looking at

436
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Harper's video log, and then all of a sudden, the

437
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>body bag behind him sits up, and inside that body bag,

438
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.799
<v Speaker 1>it like opens it up and to ring, isn't it

439
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of all people?

440
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't expecting that at all, to be honest, No, I.

441
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't either, hold Springs Spring wasn't seen that at all.

442
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

443
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Lan she's looking at the log as well, and the

444
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:22.799
<v Speaker 1>log seems to be talking to her all right. Anyway,

445
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 1>they look out the viewscreen or the window on the

446
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:31.319
<v Speaker 1>bridge there and they see their own shuttle that they

447
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:36.359
<v Speaker 1>came on just destroyed outside. So it wouldn't have made

448
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:42.759
<v Speaker 1>more sense to like either dock that shuttle somehow or

449
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>fly it into a shuttle bay before they beamed in.

450
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know how it got destroyed. They never

451
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>said how it got destroyed or did it actually get

452
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>destroyed or was that just in there?

453
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.279
<v Speaker 3>That's something we never find out actually correct.

454
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did not see it in my couple of

455
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>watches of the episode. So I'm starting to think now

456
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.279
<v Speaker 1>that that shuttle being destroyed was probably in their imagination.

457
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.400
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, they should have never been on the ship.

458
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 3>If it's missing for nine years, there's a lot more

459
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 3>going on than what they probably had seen. They like

460
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:24.119
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes, you.

461
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Know, we'll sit here, We'll wait for the Enterprise to come,

462
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and then once the Enterprise gets here, we can maybe

463
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>send over a wait team to figure out what happened.

464
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But you know, just wait for Division twelve, wait for

465
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 1>those guys and get there.

466
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you can launch a rescue mission because you do.

467
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Hear the beacon going off, so obviously you have to

468
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 3>go pay attention to it. Doesn't mean you have to

469
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 3>a board the ship. Yeah, correct, it's not going to

470
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:54.440
<v Speaker 3>change anything. It's not going to change anything.

471
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 1>So to prose, try to recount how she got there.

472
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 1>But she doesn't even really know how she got there. Spock,

473
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't believe that it's actually to pring and he's

474
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 1>sort of trying to ignore he basically to a point. Yeah,

475
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 1>they sort of discuss, you know, what's happening, and yeah,

476
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a little bit of a strange interaction. Ah,

477
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, Kirk and Laarn, they're just like, yep, we

478
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>basically need to get out of here, and they decide

479
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>that Division twelve can deal with it. So Division twelve

480
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to me seems a bit like the X Files from.

481
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 2>The FBI Paranormal kind of exactly.

482
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 3>So that sar Fleet runs into.

483
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Now Lane decides that she's going to head to Engineering.

484
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>The box already by himself, Kirk is bought and will

485
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Kirk will be by himself on the bridge, and then

486
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>she's going to be by herself and Engineering, Like, you've

487
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>already seen enough creepy stuff on the ship.

488
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Why are we splitting up?

489
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Like?

490
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I know is a bad our security chief. Yeah, tough

491
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 2>as all nails, but Puck, don't split up.

492
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 3>It was unnecessary. It's unnecessary. It's like the reason why

493
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, Spoilered. I didn't love the episode. I don't

494
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 3>really love horror. The reason why it kind of pissed

495
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 3>me off is because it's like, it's so tropy. It's

496
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 3>just so tropy.

497
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

498
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 3>There was so many elements about this episode that was awesome.

499
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.240
<v Speaker 3>It was fantastic. Was probably one of the better sci

500
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 3>fi television episodes horror Wise, there was, but it was

501
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 3>so tropy it took me out in that elementally.

502
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right for the beginning, the characters in this episode

503
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of clearly never seen a horror movie.

504
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think the enterprise.

505
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Is yeah, yeah, I don't think they have movie nights

506
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>like the NXO one.

507
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when they watch old school movies.

508
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 1>But to bring she recounts a story too Spock that

509
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 1>she'd only ever told Spock in order to try and

510
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 1>prove to him that she's real. But then Spock calls

511
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>her out and it's like, well, you're just in my head. Yeah,

512
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it could just be coming from my brain. So anyway, Lan,

513
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 1>she's down in engineering and she's watching more of Harper's logs,

514
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 1>and we see something walking up behind her, and then

515
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>it does get up to her and it touches her shoulder,

516
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and she seems to think that it Spock.

517
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Right like, and she touches the hand back and still

518
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 3>thinks and spot like.

519
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 1>She was that confident that it sounded like Spock walking

520
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 1>up behind her and engineering, yeah, and then yeah, she's

521
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.559
<v Speaker 1>touching this hand on her shoulder, which ends up being

522
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 1>like zombie Harber.

523
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even if you thought it was spucked. You don't

524
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 3>turn around at all on a creepy ship and be

525
00:29:59.000 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>like just to make sure.

526
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But then it vanishes. So Kirk is seen then

527
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>back on the bridge working through the common station.

528
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't mention it earlier.

529
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>He had a little toy for his son David in

530
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 1>his you know, like his go bag, I guess.

531
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 2>But somehow that little toy ended up in the ready

532
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>room on the bridge.

533
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 1>So but then he hears a baby in the comm's

534
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>console there, Wow, he took out.

535
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It creeps you out.

536
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 3>It took me out where he phones the baby the wall?

537
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Is that what you're saying?

538
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Well in the console? Yeah?

539
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, yeah, because because they can say it

540
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 3>with the troops. He walks towards the noise, bends down

541
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 3>in the dik, snaps back up towards it again, walks

542
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 3>up slowly, and he thinks there's a baby in the wall. Like,

543
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.480
<v Speaker 3>what would make you think there was an actual baby

544
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 3>in the wall even if you heard it? You have

545
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 3>to is there, stifling captain of your train for these scenarios,

546
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.759
<v Speaker 3>what would make you instantly think that this is what's

547
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>going on?

548
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I suppose when people are going crazy they don't actually

549
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 1>know that they're going crazy. That's the thing.

550
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guess so, yeah, it is one of those things.

551
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Spocking to Pring, they're working on trying to get the

552
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 1>door to Sick Bay open and they're messing with the.

553
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Wires and stuff. But then to Pring she's stuns Spock

554
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>with a phaser. Okay, cool, something's happening. Yeah, And then

555
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>like we do.

556
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Jump around quite a lot in this between like the

557
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 1>bridge and Engineering and Sick Bay. But there are a

558
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of figures in Engineering talking to Laan all right,

559
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Like they'd be at least a hundred of them, if

560
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>not more, you know, all different races.

561
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I haven't mentioned it. Cool shirt by the way, Steve

562
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>with Hammer on it, and.

563
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>You thought of it because they saw the dead Andorians behind. Yes,

564
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I thought one of them was hamp Hammer and I'm like, oh,

565
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 3>it's not, because you're in a different ship.

566
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 1>So it was like there was Andorians, there was humans.

567
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they might even have been at Norse can

568
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 1>in there at some point as well.

569
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Did join Starfleet.

570
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, but it might not have been

571
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>a Norseic and it was.

572
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 3>It was that an individual Kit just probably joined.

573
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>But well, yeah, like we've got water just joined stuff on.

574
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.920
<v Speaker 2>So I guess I.

575
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Remember of star Fleet. Well I was thinking of myself,

576
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 3>they're a member of Starfleet now, but they're not. They

577
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 3>would just have peace the star Fleet, so.

578
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Well at peace with the feder Yeah. So Stock comes

579
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to and he's strapped to the table in sick bay.

580
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I did it really happened to him?

581
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 1>She tells so to Pring, you know, she tells him

582
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 1>that his humanity is not his weakness, but it is

583
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>his strength. Then she gets these surgical shears and cuts

584
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:32.519
<v Speaker 1>off the tips of his ears in order to make

585
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 1>him more human, just the tip I do. But they

586
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>graphically showed that too.

587
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, it was.

588
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 1>It was more graphic Star Trek episodes in a way,

589
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 1>like we have some some graphic things in Star Trek before.

590
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 1>But cutting the tips off of a fwkin's ears that

591
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was like wow. And then they were bleeding green, which

592
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.839
<v Speaker 1>I appreciated that they kept blood green.

593
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I did appreciate that.

594
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 3>This is definitely the most glory, the most blood, the

595
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 3>most maniacal we've seen Side Trek.

596
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think so they have.

597
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 3>To be, especially as one of the deaths that we'll talk.

598
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Kirk, he's freaking out looking for his son. Then

599
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 1>we get Pike, Sam Kirk, Whura owner, and Erica Ortegas.

600
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>They all beam in.

601
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 1>So I will say it, and I've said it before,

602
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I really love their Away Team jackets.

603
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 2>They're cool. I really want one.

604
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much everything they wear.

605
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 1>These uniforms that they have on Strange New Worlds are

606
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>so clean and crisp and awesome to look at.

607
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>They are very very.

608
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Good in the Beger. His his definite, definite pull towards

609
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 3>like the the older version of the side Trek style

610
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 3>of uniforms. You can see it in his two a

611
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 3>lot more compared to Pikes or everybody else's. You can

612
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 3>see the filtering in of different elements of the original series.

613
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, love that they actually do.

614
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 1>So the Away Team they can't actually get coms out either,

615
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 1>so and then who or she heads over to like

616
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the comms console and it's just yeah, it's a mess

617
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of wires and you know parts. And then Kirk admits

618
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that he heard his son David in the console and

619
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>he basically broke it trying to get him out. So

620
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's at that point the Away Team there

621
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of is like with there's some weird going on here.

622
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh well you don't say. Yeah, it pissed me off

623
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.159
<v Speaker 3>so bad watching this one.

624
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>They figured out though, that they may be able to

625
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 1>beam off of the ship one at a time. So

626
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>there's not enough power to beam everyone off in one hit,

627
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>but they might be able to beam everyone off one

628
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>at a time, so they'll give that a crack. So

629
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Sam Kirk he sort of consoles his brother a bit though,

630
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>so because you know, as we know Sam, he works

631
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 1>on the enterprise at this point. Yeah, and he's trying

632
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to console his brother. So Lan she starts to head

633
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>up to the bridge, but on her way up, the

634
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>turbolift stops at deck seventeen, and she's like okay, and

635
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 1>she tries to get it to go again, and then

636
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>it stops at deck seventeen, and then again a third time,

637
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and it stops at deck seventeen. So it just seems

638
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>to be stuck there. Doesn't want to go anywhere, so

639
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>she gets off, but there is a heap of plastic

640
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>sheeting or hanging around in the hallway in deck seventeen.

641
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>So from what I can gather, deck seventeen seems to

642
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 1>be like a crew quarter's deck.

643
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Why the hell is there a whole bunch.

644
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Of like it looks like painters sheeting hanging around, Like

645
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>were they they just happened to be in the middle

646
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>of like renovations when it's a very odd or was

647
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>it just there Someone's like, Oh, let's make it look

648
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>more creepy and put some plastic sheeting up.

649
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly what I took out of it. Originally

650
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this screams lake like some weird warehouse

651
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.039
<v Speaker 3>in Detroit where the serial killer has people tied up

652
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in some oddly electrical place that has electricity, but it

653
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 3>has these typeshile around it.

654
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so she goes into one of the quarters.

655
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 1>She finds blood on the wall, right, but then she

656
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>finds this cool knife. Like, I actually really liked the

657
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>look of that knife.

658
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 2>It was cool.

659
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Was it kleanon? It was not a regular traditional clean ion.

660
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 1>But it's to me it had a little bit of

661
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>vibes of like a thinner tracker knife. I don't know

662
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever seen a track of knife before very much,

663
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:30.039
<v Speaker 1>but I had those kind of vibes to me, maybe

664
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of cookery vibes from like a Gurkha knife.

665
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 3>That's what I get out of it. That's when I

666
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 3>get out of it, like the angle to it.

667
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, who was held.

668
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>It could have been a bit of a mixture between

669
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the two. I'm going to see if I can find

670
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 1>out what that knife is actually and who makes it,

671
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you see, if there are any over here that we

672
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>can get so because it was definitely cool, but we

673
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 1>find out that that quarters is actually Harper Quarters.

674
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 2>So the security chief of the Griffin.

675
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Laan, keeps seeing these recordings in all of these different

676
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>consoles all the time.

677
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 2>But then Laan smashes it. So Hura comes.

678
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>From she smashes it because it's herself. Yeah yeah, and

679
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>she's like, what the hell and she just smashes the thing.

680
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Back back in sick bay to bring us starting to

681
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>cut the bottom right hand side of Spock's shirt off. Now,

682
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 1>if anybody knows anything about vulcan physiology, the bottom right

683
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hand side is where their heart is.

684
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 2>So I can't remember what episode that.

685
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>They mentioned that in, but yeah, that is where the

686
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>vulcan heart is. So, which is not smart having your

687
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 1>heart in the stomach area because it doesn't have the

688
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>protection of your rib cage, but they apparently that's where

689
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it is.

690
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 3>The Klingons have redundant Oregon for everything.

691
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>So so at that point though Una and Pike they

692
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>come in and to Bring is then just gone.

693
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's like it snaps snaps Spock out of whatever

694
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>he's in and to Bring has just disappeared.

695
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 3>So that brings him into a different area.

696
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So Sam and Jim Kirk are both on the bridge

697
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 1>and Sam then starts to talk about.

698
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.880
<v Speaker 2>The toy and you know how he.

699
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, buys toys for his kid. Jim asks him

700
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:47.519
<v Speaker 1>how he manages to balance family with staff leet, which

701
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 1>is a really good question for him to be asking

702
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 1>his brother, considering his brother has a family already with

703
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.360
<v Speaker 1>two kids, and you know, he's trying to have his

704
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.159
<v Speaker 1>own family himself with you know, young David and Carol.

705
00:40:58.199 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>There.

706
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was a good character brotherly moment.

707
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I really I did like that. But then Sam starts

708
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 1>to hear his own kid, Peter. So now this hallucinations

709
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>is starting to spread to the away team that comes

710
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>come to rescue them. But Jim he's realized at this

711
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>point that it's not real, and he starts to tell

712
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.760
<v Speaker 1>him that it's not real, but the doors to the

713
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 1>bridge sea.

714
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

715
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so Lan and Erica they've gone to the transporter

716
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>room with a her to try and beam out one

717
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>by one, and.

718
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Erica's like, yep, I'll go first.

719
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Essentially, holy hey, she written lyon realizes that they're there.

720
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 3>After she smashes the screen and it looks up and

721
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 3>realizes that they're on the ship. Now just popped into

722
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>like into the scenario right then and there. Yeah, yeah,

723
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 3>it's like, where the fuck did they come from?

724
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to beam her out.

725
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, Lahana is trying to beat Erica out, and from

726
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>what I could gather, she was almost being folded in

727
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 1>on herself until.

728
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Huah tried to stop her.

729
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>But then yeah, she ended up putting her in like

730
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the transport a buffer to save her. Because I was

731
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I was almost expecting that we were going to see

732
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Erica in like this pile of meat mess on the.

733
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Floor, kind of like the motion picture.

734
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what.

735
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.199
<v Speaker 3>I just watched. I just watched it last week, so

736
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.320
<v Speaker 3>so I was like, I've been watching him in a row,

737
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 3>So I'm up to you know, the search the spot

738
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 3>towards the end of it, but that same thing happens. Yeah,

739
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 3>And watching Kirk speak at facet of that one was

740
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 3>it was right when he takes over the ship, you know,

741
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 3>and realizes he has a no, a damn thing about

742
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 3>the enterpriser. Yep.

743
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So Pike and Una they put Spock back into sick

744
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Bay right onto.

745
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 2>The biobed and basically tie him down again.

746
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Una starts to cut herself with a scalpel, like, oh, I.

747
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Hated this whole thing because I don't know, I don't

748
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 3>like that either.

749
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 1>So even in other movies and stuff, I hate seeing

750
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, obviously it's not real, but I know, yeah,

751
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 1>I hate seeing people cutting themselves, and I hate seeing

752
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>druggies giving themselves needles with drugs and stuff as well.

753
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Its me out, amen, that's up.

754
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>But there was this movie growing up called It's remember

755
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Stevo from Jackass yea, And there's this movie about his

756
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 3>drug addiction is alcohol addiction. It's called Peace CP Saved

757
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 3>My Life. The freaking opening seed of that is him

758
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 3>shooting up her h underneath the bridge and you're like,

759
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 3>what what is going on? Like I was into, Like,

760
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I just felt disgusting the entire time watching it. And

761
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 3>you know we were younger, all my buddies and watching

762
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and I'm still there.

763
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, no, it's yeah, I just hate seeing it.

764
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm okay with obviously in the army, I've had

765
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 1>plenty of like vaccinations and needles, and you know, I've

766
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 1>given blood and I'm happy to like put my own

767
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 1>ID and stuff in.

768
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I can do that sort of stuff.

769
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>But as soon as it's got anything to do with

770
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>drugs or people cutting themselves.

771
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>And stuff, yeah, I do not like it at all.

772
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, not worried about not worried about blood and things.

773
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 1>It's just the idea of somebody cutting into themselves for well, yeah,

774
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>it's just it creeps me out.

775
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I give blood plasma and you know in the

776
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 3>in the main vein of your arm here, Like that

777
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 3>doesn't bug me out, and I'm actually really good with it,

778
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.039
<v Speaker 3>but seeing somebody do it's.

779
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm that type of person that when I have

780
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a blood test or something done, I will literally watch

781
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 1>the blood come out into the vial. I'm fine with that,

782
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 1>but it's yeah, drugs and people, you know, self harming.

783
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 2>I just don't like it.

784
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 3>And I love drugs numbs kids.

785
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh Anyway, so Sam and Jim Kirk they're trying to

786
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Speaker 1>pry the doors open to the bridge so they can

787
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 1>get out of the bridge. But then the view screen

788
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.039
<v Speaker 1>starts to crack. Now, this is probably one of the

789
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>more graphic scenes of the whole episode. In my opinion,

790
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 1>this is the.

791
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Most graphic scene in Sidetrack.

792
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

793
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sam starts to get caught and you know, blown

794
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 1>pulled out through the hole in the view screen and

795
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>then we see his body as a floating mess of

796
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and like mince mate and blood in space.

797
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 3>It was like, whoa, can we talk about this for

798
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 3>a second because I didn't like the episode. It is

799
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 3>what it is. I don't think it was a bad episode.

800
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just not for me. That's actually thought. It was

801
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.079
<v Speaker 3>a good episode, just not for me the way that

802
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 3>so when he hit the glass, I said, he can't

803
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 3>just stop the air. You can't have him. He has

804
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:30.119
<v Speaker 3>to die this way because the amount of vacuum on

805
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 3>his back exposed in the pressure, but just on his

806
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 3>actual skin, it would suck liquid out of you. And

807
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.360
<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what happened to him. And I'm like yes,

808
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 3>as it was going, I was like yeah, typically right,

809
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and then boom, you know, he gets out, But what

810
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>killed the scene for me graphically wise, as he's floating away,

811
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 3>you see all the spring of all that, and he's

812
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.119
<v Speaker 3>all messed up, and you're like, that's exactly how he

813
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 3>would die right there. But what but took me out

814
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.119
<v Speaker 3>at the end of it is so Jim gets the

815
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 3>doors open and like that suction is coming through the

816
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 3>view screen, that whole entire cabin has been depressurized and

817
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 3>he is able to open the doors up at that point,

818
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 3>fall through the other side without holding onto anything, and

819
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 3>go no to his brother. But meanwhile that vacuum is

820
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 3>still happening twenty feet away from Yeah, you're right, So

821
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 3>so scientifically speaking, you know, they got the gore part right,

822
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 3>but not like the actual science of what can happen

823
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 3>to somebody who's trying to escape.

824
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 2>That's right, It will make sense at the end.

825
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I know why it does make sense because.

826
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like spoilers, it's all in their mind.

827
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, spoiler spoilert for the whole episode that we already

828
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 3>said was spoiler alert.

829
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 1>She's just trying to escape from La'an, like Ohura is

830
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>freaking the hell out because Laana had like tried to

831
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>turn Erica inside out basically with the transporter. Then Hura

832
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>gets slashed by Harper or what we think is Harper,

833
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:25.039
<v Speaker 1>but it turns out that all along Harper has basically

834
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>been Laan in her own mind, and it was slashes

835
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>of her.

836
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you see that at one point though?

837
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well yeah you kind of you guess that. Yeah,

838
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it kind of made sense with the when she smashed

839
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that view screen in the quarters.

840
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's where I first got it.

841
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So and then Laan has this creepier smile

842
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>about slashing ra.

843
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So I actually liked it because we've talked about that.

844
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 3>We think she's beautiful.

845
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 2>She's beautiful, beautiful woman.

846
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.239
<v Speaker 3>You don't get to see her like really smile, smile

847
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 3>that much and have a lot of emotion because she's

848
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 3>very stoic. She's she's a.

849
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Creepy smile.

850
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 3>It was creepy, but I was like, that's beautiful.

851
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Some actors, you you look at them and the way

852
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>they portray the character. And I'll use Richard Dean Anderson

853
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 1>for instance, like the way he plays Colonel O'Neill in Stargate.

854
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>That to me from the videos and stuff I've seen

855
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 1>of Richard Dean Anderson seems like that is like there's

856
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>so much of Richard Dean Anderson.

857
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 2>In that character. But Ahn, it.

858
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't seem like there's there's no Christina Chong in that

859
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:53.800
<v Speaker 1>character of lan Like she's such a lovely person, and

860
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.880
<v Speaker 1>like Lanen is lovely in her own way, but she's

861
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:02.559
<v Speaker 1>so you know, stoic and you know, very stern and everything.

862
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Christina Chong not like that. So yeah, hats off to

863
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 1>her with her acting.

864
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Great. Yeah, but I like.

865
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Her character a lot in the show. And I think

866
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 3>I've told you before, and I don't gravitate towards a

867
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of the characters overall, and Benga I do.

868
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 2>And Beanger.

869
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.199
<v Speaker 1>He's probably I think I've said it before. He's probably

870
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>my favorite in the whole show.

871
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, He's one of the type star Trek actors in general.

872
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 3>For me, it's like like every single thing that he

873
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.760
<v Speaker 3>does in every single scene or five second clip, like

874
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the show, you know, at the

875
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.119
<v Speaker 3>end of this last week's episode, you know, when he

876
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 3>talks to Blake, it's just so on point and it's

877
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 3>very well done. It's not overused. His characters perfect of

878
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:45.559
<v Speaker 3>the show.

879
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Now, her wins in the hall.

880
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>She stabs him straight through with this knife, like from

881
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the front and it goes all the way through out

882
00:50:58.880 --> 00:50:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the back as well.

883
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Like wow, I wasn't real too, really yeah, real, this

884
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:10.079
<v Speaker 2>is not in their mind. This is just part.

885
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 1>And she runs him through hard. Then we see back

886
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 1>in Sick Bay, Pike is cooking. Spock is still tied

887
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>up again, and this is graphic as hell too.

888
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't like this. This is the worst part for me.

889
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 1>He is cutting his own fingers off into chunks.

890
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I've done it as a twenty five year former

891
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:43.000
<v Speaker 3>chef for somebody who's actually cut like literally the tip

892
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 3>of my finger off. I don't know how it's grown back.

893
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.559
<v Speaker 3>It took me out intec. I'm like, it just brought

894
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 3>me back to that ultimate pain, bro.

895
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>When I was about or eleven, I cut the tip

896
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of my index finger here off and I had to

897
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>have it sewn back on.

898
00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>And there's no feeling in the end of that finger.

899
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Now I still have finger feeling in both of them

900
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 3>that I did it too. But I'm telling you, man,

901
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how he looks even remotely norm Walkers.

902
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I cut just that feeling of see him

903
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 3>do it. I think I know it was fake, but

904
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 3>it's just like.

905
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, a Pike Key collapses after he's cut his fingers off,

906
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:28.039
<v Speaker 1>and then Spock asks them to let him, yeah, let

907
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody else go, and to take him like he's willing

908
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to sacrifice himself in order to protect the rest of his.

909
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Crew, which is awesome logical yep, absolutely this went.

910
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Spring comes at him with a cleaver and then all

911
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden he's free, and she's gone like wow,

912
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 1>all right.

913
00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:59.599
<v Speaker 2>So then Kirk is trying to get away from.

914
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>La arm so Lane tells Jim his little boy is

915
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 1>going to die just like him at the end of

916
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a blade in a dark corner of space.

917
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

918
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Massive foreshadowing, massive foreshadowing.

919
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Its shadowed.

920
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 2>There.

921
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, At that point is when they all get beamed

922
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>out of the Griffin back to the Enterprise. So Pike

923
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 1>is there, everybody else essentially is there, and it's at

924
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that point where it's definitely made clear to all of

925
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 1>us that the away team that had gone to rescue

926
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 1>them on the Griffin, we're not actually there. So it

927
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.760
<v Speaker 1>was all in their mind the whole time.

928
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:57.519
<v Speaker 3>What did you instantly think? So for me, in this scene,

929
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 3>what were you thinking when they're being done to the.

930
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Ship And while I was like, Okay, that's definitely not real,

931
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, I'm hoping that this is actually happening

932
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point that they have been rescued, that's what all.

933
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:16.079
<v Speaker 2>What were you thinking?

934
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Get him to the medical bay and is immediately somebody

935
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.840
<v Speaker 3>goes over to an emergency medical beam, to emergency beam

936
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 3>out to medical bay. Boom, right the medical bay.

937
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 2>They all stood there like this, yeah, really he stunned.

938
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 3>They're off trained from That's why it always gets me this.

939
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 3>They're all trained professionals on five year mission a long

940
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 3>period of time. The man is stabbed right in front

941
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 3>of him on the ground and they're all standing there

942
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 3>like like I get being shocked. Maybe in the third

943
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.719
<v Speaker 3>second somebody actually moves. I don't know. That just took

944
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.400
<v Speaker 3>me out. I have somebody do something.

945
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I have seen any a soldier in my career on

946
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 1>operations freeze up in the middle of enemy action or

947
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>or when someone has been shot or you know, stabbed

948
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.519
<v Speaker 1>or something or has a graphic injury.

949
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 2>People just do they freeze up. It doesn't matter how

950
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 2>much training. It just happens to some people. It doesn't

951
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:20.519
<v Speaker 2>tend to happen.

952
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Does that happen to every single person in the room.

953
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess it could.

954
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 3>Somebody's going to be like, somebody's going to have a

955
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.599
<v Speaker 3>straight mind to be like, yeah, being shocked. Shocked factor

956
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:37.920
<v Speaker 3>is definitely a thing, but somebody's gonna do something. You've

957
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.119
<v Speaker 3>seen it plenty of times. People can just snap into

958
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:44.840
<v Speaker 3>snap into that fucking scenario no matter what's going on. Yeah,

959
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 3>you see people who can't, but there's tons of people

960
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 3>who also can.

961
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's at this point out of it. Jim Kirk

962
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.519
<v Speaker 2>straight away though, all credit to him.

963
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>He asks about his brother straight away because he's like,

964
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't real.

965
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But then yeah, Pike is like, he's on shore leave

966
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:09.119
<v Speaker 2>and arge he then drops the knife.

967
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 1>So we go to a little bit later now and

968
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Benga is having a bit of a chat to Pike

969
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.599
<v Speaker 1>about the whole thing, and they this is where they

970
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about Division twelve again. Now, this is where we

971
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>find out that Pike he has reported I think he

972
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 1>said six different things to Division.

973
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Twelve through his career, and he yeah, a couple of them.

974
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Had found out to be like aliens and stuff, but

975
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 1>a few of them they still don't know what they are. Yeah,

976
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.599
<v Speaker 1>but they also Pike doesn't even know where Division twelve's

977
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:45.800
<v Speaker 1>base of operations is.

978
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to know more about Division twelve?

979
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I really yes, Yeah, it would make an interesting book

980
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 1>at least, you know, I'm not going to say it

981
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>all don't don't show.

982
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

983
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want another you know, shitty failed Section thirty

984
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>one movie type of thing. I don't want a Division

985
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 1>twelve movie like that.

986
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I got a question for you. Yes, it just popped

987
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 3>into my head because you know, they used to do

988
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 3>this a lot with shows, when with with like little

989
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 3>tidbits like this, and they'd fill in a whole storyline.

990
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 3>Star Trek is a huge example of it, you know,

991
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.039
<v Speaker 3>whether it's the background character then all of a sudden

992
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 3>you got his whole entire story out of it. Do

993
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:35.280
<v Speaker 3>they currently make Strange New World comics that kind of

994
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.719
<v Speaker 3>fill in some of the storylines that we are seeing?

995
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I've got heaps of Star Trek books like

996
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, current anything current like this show.

997
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't say that I have seen any.

998
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:55.000
<v Speaker 1>No, actually I need to do that. Strange New World comics, yeah,

999
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they are.

1000
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:58.639
<v Speaker 3>But are they I wonder if they're tying them in

1001
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 3>with the events that take place in the show, or

1002
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 3>if they're you know, like a separate story, you know,

1003
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:05.639
<v Speaker 3>because I do know, like me and you have gone

1004
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:07.119
<v Speaker 3>with some of the books that I have here to

1005
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.239
<v Speaker 3>my left, some of them are adjacent to the stories

1006
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 3>that we've seen on screen. Love that because it fills

1007
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 3>in those little gaps, you know, you don't have to

1008
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 3>make a full movie about it, just tell us a

1009
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:18.320
<v Speaker 3>little bit of story about it.

1010
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I've lived all around the country in the Army, and yeah,

1011
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:25.119
<v Speaker 1>like where I currently live, I don't even know if

1012
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:26.639
<v Speaker 1>we've got a local comic book store.

1013
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:29.480
<v Speaker 3>We have a ton here in the States that are

1014
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:33.199
<v Speaker 3>actually still around. Nostalgia and video games and comics and

1015
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 3>all of that, and retro toys are like at the

1016
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 3>peak over here, so you can pretty.

1017
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Much my seven year old and I we love playing

1018
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 1>retro games. We've got a like an old Nintendo sixty

1019
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 1>four and we've got like some game stick thing that

1020
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 1>plugs into the back of the TV that's got like

1021
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand games on it as well, like Nintendo. We

1022
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.559
<v Speaker 1>were playing with a Street Fighter two the other night.

1023
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the best one.

1024
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Street fight to and pizza. That's what we did. It

1025
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.320
<v Speaker 2>was great anyway.

1026
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 1>So Pike asks Embanga about Kirk and how he's going,

1027
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and he says that they are healing physically, but they're

1028
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all mentally damaged essentially from what they have experienced on

1029
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>board that ship.

1030
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.760
<v Speaker 2>So instantly I was like this.

1031
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Fucking damn it.

1032
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Nurse Chap goes two Spock's quarters to fix his ears up,

1033
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and she fixes them up good as new, because Spock

1034
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.079
<v Speaker 1>had asked her to specifically come to his quarters to

1035
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 1>do it because of his experience of being in sick

1036
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Bay and it was kind of creeping him out still,

1037
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And she explains to him.

1038
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 2>That she's a little bit creeped out by.

1039
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 1>The mess hall because during the war they turned a

1040
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>mess hole into a like a triage slash operating bay

1041
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.079
<v Speaker 1>type of thing, So that makes sense. It's like it

1042
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 1>is deeply dramatic, yeah, which makes sense to me, absolutely does.

1043
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:11.679
<v Speaker 3>She's just too soft of a character for me. I

1044
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:12.400
<v Speaker 3>can't take her.

1045
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 1>She does ask him like why to Pring, like was

1046
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 1>she probing for? Like why what wasn't her that he

1047
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:25.079
<v Speaker 1>was thinking of? Like your relationship is done, like be

1048
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:25.760
<v Speaker 1>done with it?

1049
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And they don't they refuse to get her away

1050
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 3>from that, that style of storytelling. It seems like she's

1051
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 3>just meant to be a soft are you okay character?

1052
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Let me get to your emotions. Yeah. I can't stand

1053
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:41.599
<v Speaker 3>when she gets on stream now because I know that's

1054
01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:42.199
<v Speaker 3>what's going to be.

1055
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Spock did say to her, though, that topring brought him

1056
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:47.519
<v Speaker 1>back to logic, which makes sense.

1057
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she says, logical.

1058
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 1>So Laan goes to speak to Captain Pike and asks

1059
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:05.960
<v Speaker 1>him about the report. It's not entirely accurate. It's not

1060
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 1>mentioned in there that she tried to kill Jim Kirk.

1061
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:16.440
<v Speaker 1>He invites, Yeah, look, it is a detail that I

1062
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:19.760
<v Speaker 1>understand why he didn't put that in his official report.

1063
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.000
<v Speaker 2>But I also understand why he left it out too

1064
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.440
<v Speaker 2>shame so it could vary.

1065
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It easily have been in the report and been explained perfectly.

1066
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Not trouble, Yeah, exactly so.

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<v Speaker 1>But he he invites her for a drink in the

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01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 1>in the quarters there, and he tells some story about

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01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:47.920
<v Speaker 1>when he was a kid in his uncle's barn, how

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01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.079
<v Speaker 1>the other kids had told him that there was some

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01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 1>creepy spirit or something in there.

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01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 3>With a safe or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, and he was like, well, I'm going to

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01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.000
<v Speaker 1>sleep in there overnight, but then here he heard some

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01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 1>noises and rushed out and he ends up with this

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01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:08.719
<v Speaker 1>massive cut on him and the end at the time,

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01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:10.760
<v Speaker 1>he thought maybe he scraped a nail or something, but

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01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, nobody could find anything. No, nothing he got

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01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 1>cut on that they could find. So it's another unexplained phenomenon,

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01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>And it said said something to him as well, right.

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01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he said he's still got that scar, and yeah,

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01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:28.519
<v Speaker 1>he said he heard something, didn't he.

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01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.840
<v Speaker 3>We had said something specific to him, and that really

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01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.440
<v Speaker 3>creeped him up. That made him have the belief of

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01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:37.360
<v Speaker 3>anything that's kind of possible.

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01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:43.400
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, ahurah, she's going now to help

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01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Jim Kirk reach out to Carol and their son David,

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01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and she offers him some cookies, which I thought was nice.

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01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:59.039
<v Speaker 3>You know me, man, I ain't got time for any

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01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:01.760
<v Speaker 3>of this. At the end of the it seemed so

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01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:05.320
<v Speaker 3>hand fisted and so forced every time that everybody needs

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01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:07.519
<v Speaker 3>to talk about their emotions on it.

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01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, toad out. But then we see Harper in

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01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the window.

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01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Still, Yeah, I.

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01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Love loved it seeing Harper or is that actually Harper

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01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that we're saying because as we know, Division twelve is

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01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:26.360
<v Speaker 1>taking that ship.

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01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Now to figure out what's going on.

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01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that ship, it doesn't seem that damaged either.

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01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So could that ship, once they finished their investigation, be

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01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.320
<v Speaker 1>sent to a shipyards and be re christened.

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01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Possibility. And I love how they trail the ship. They

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01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:46.760
<v Speaker 3>told the ship directly next to the Enterprise and her

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01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:50.039
<v Speaker 3>window happens to be overlooking it. And even though these

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01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:55.079
<v Speaker 3>three characters had monumental traumatic experiences, they decide in this

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01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:57.800
<v Speaker 3>vastest of the space to arrive right next to each other.

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01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 3>Just just it's just so funny. It's like, hey, I

1110
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 3>know you had an issue that alligator, bigger arm off,

1111
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:08.559
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna trail next to you and you get to

1112
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 3>look out of the It's just weird to me that there.

1113
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Ends the episode.

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01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 1>So overall, Yeah, you said you didn't like the episode,

1115
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Steve wasn't your favorite or.

1116
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.599
<v Speaker 3>It's not for me. It's not that I didn't like it.

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01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Was it well done? Was it too like too many

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01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:34.039
<v Speaker 1>tropes in there and too cliche?

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01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 3>And that's what kind of got me out of it

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01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:40.079
<v Speaker 3>is there was a lot of predictability, a lot of troops,

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01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:45.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot of like, why the hell are you doing

1122
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:50.320
<v Speaker 3>this this way? It's in number one. It's a horror

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01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 3>in sci fi, any horror in sci fi. It's just

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01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:56.360
<v Speaker 3>not what I'm looking for in sci fi. It's not

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01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.039
<v Speaker 3>what I'm I don't like horror movies in general, so

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01:04:59.440 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 3>it's not what I.

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01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for in Star Trek. Like, don't get

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01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.480
<v Speaker 2>me wrong, I like horror in sci fi. That's fine.

1129
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Not that I watch a lot of horror stuff.

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01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:12.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Star Trek, I don't know. It didn't like

1131
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it was a good episode for me.

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01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I liked it.

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01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I really did like it overall. In parts I thought

1134
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 1>it was probably too graphic. Four Star Trek.

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01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fine.

1136
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:30.000
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, yes, we're now

1137
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.559
<v Speaker 1>in a streaming era, so they can get away with

1138
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:34.559
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, and they can do swearing, and they can

1139
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:36.599
<v Speaker 1>do more blood and gore and stuff because it is

1140
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:38.960
<v Speaker 1>streaming instead of network TV.

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01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get it.

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01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:47.039
<v Speaker 1>If this was your jumping in point to Strange New

1143
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Worlds after coming from like the Next Generation or Dares

1144
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:53.760
<v Speaker 1>nine or Voyager, that would probably be a bit of

1145
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:55.920
<v Speaker 1>a shocking episode just to jump in at.

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01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:00.159
<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, and especially after how well they hit the

1147
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 3>element of last week's episode and they showed. What got

1148
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:08.320
<v Speaker 3>me hopeful for this season was last week's episode because

1149
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 3>they nailed every element of what Star Trek is in

1150
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:17.079
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, they really did, And for this week's episode,

1151
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:18.920
<v Speaker 3>it just kind of felt like it was like an

1152
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:24.519
<v Speaker 3>Earthbound episode. You know, it was very contained, it was

1153
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.320
<v Speaker 3>very It just seemed like they could have done a

1154
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:30.639
<v Speaker 3>lot more, and I wanted them to really hit a

1155
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 3>strange new world almost every episode of this season, you know,

1156
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:36.800
<v Speaker 3>especially after what they get been given us the past

1157
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:39.679
<v Speaker 3>couple of seasons, which you know, for me, was about

1158
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:45.280
<v Speaker 3>a sea. When it comes to storyteller and execution, Star

1159
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Trek visually pretty much anything nowadays visually it doesn't matter.

1160
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna look banging. And I do think Star Trek

1161
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:56.360
<v Speaker 3>in particular looks very, very very good. Another show that

1162
01:06:56.679 --> 01:07:00.000
<v Speaker 3>that nails at its foundation when it comes to the visuals.

1163
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.039
<v Speaker 3>But Storyteller is going to lackluster. I think they nailed

1164
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of this, but it's just not for me.

1165
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:09.760
<v Speaker 3>It's very predictable, very trilly.

1166
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, next week, Season four, episode three is called

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01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Human Best Friend. Okay, so we'll see what that's all about. Yeah,

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01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So for those that don't know, I am now putting

1169
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the video version of this podcast on YouTube on the

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01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Geeking Camo channel. Obviously, this will still keep on the

1171
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:38.440
<v Speaker 1>podcasting channel of getting.

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01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 2>To Geek with all the boys over there.

1173
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, jump on the YouTube, give us a like, follow,

1174
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 1>subscribe on there. You can also find my Geeking Camo Facebook,

1175
01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Instagram threads and now x as well. So get around

1176
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the socials, reach out, you know, let us know what

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01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you think. Anyway, until next week, where as I said,

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01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the episode is human best Friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for coming along, Steve, and we'll catch on. Bye.