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<v Speaker 1>This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The

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<v Speaker 1>show is sponsored by G three Aparo. I view's expressed

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the opinion of seven tenor or iHeartMedia. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is Mark Weber. He's a self made business executive here

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<v Speaker 1>to help you find your success, from the New York

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<v Speaker 1>City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His global

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<v Speaker 1>success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone from.

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<v Speaker 2>Clerk to CEO twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark is classic proof that the American dream is alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Weber. Trade.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all anybody wants to talk about right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>We've all seen our net worth go down. But I've

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<v Speaker 4>sold nothing. I believe in the companies I own. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe that they're all well and they'll be doing well.

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<v Speaker 4>So I haven't sold anything. I think therefore, I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>lost money. None of you have lost money unless you're

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<v Speaker 4>selling at a loss. And with that is a backdrop,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to talk trade again. I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>We did it all last week. We've been doing it

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time, but here we are. It's rational,

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<v Speaker 4>it's big, it's the news of the day. But it

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<v Speaker 4>was a fascinating experience that got me to agree to

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<v Speaker 4>do this again. The other day, I was at a

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<v Speaker 4>children's function, a luncheon, and I happened to walk over

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<v Speaker 4>and see two little boys are sitting on the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>They both have baseball cards. One of them is holding

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<v Speaker 4>an Aaron Judge card. The other one has a Shohai

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<v Speaker 4>Otani card. And it was amazing to watch because each

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<v Speaker 4>one wanted the other's card, and they were talking about

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<v Speaker 4>how they could trade, and whether or not they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to give up the card, whether they would be happy

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<v Speaker 4>with the other one, And watching them discuss reminded me

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<v Speaker 4>that fifty years ago, when I was born, I was slapped.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted my milk, and unless you gave me my milk,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't gonna stop crying. We were negotiating, we were trading.

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<v Speaker 4>I think about myself when I had trading cards in baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted Mickey Manner. The other guy had Willie Mays.

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<v Speaker 4>There's always been training. If little kids could do it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they understand, don't you think the rest of us

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<v Speaker 4>should be able to every time we walk into a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 4>every time you walk into a clothing store, buy something.

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<v Speaker 4>Every store you buy, anywhere anywhere you go is service,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a trade. I buy gas, it's a trade.

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<v Speaker 4>You're offered services. You could accept it or not. You

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<v Speaker 4>could pay the price or not. We're all traders. We're

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<v Speaker 4>all experienced traders. You don't like it, you don't buy it,

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<v Speaker 4>you walk away. We all decide whether or not what

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<v Speaker 4>someone's offering is worth our money. And in business, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what all we do, is trade. What is so confusing

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<v Speaker 4>right now, and what I'm astounded is how messed up

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<v Speaker 4>we are and how confusing the government is this. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think we have to be because what they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>I think is right. We are right now. If you've

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<v Speaker 4>been listening to the show the last few weeks, I

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<v Speaker 4>am in agreement with what's happening. I believe there's a

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<v Speaker 4>trade in balance and it can be fixed simply. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe the tarage should be reciprocal. You tax me, I

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<v Speaker 4>tax you make it an even number. I've been trading.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been an international trader in negotiation for my entire career.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been purchasing products for my adult life all over

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<v Speaker 4>the world. I'm an expert, at least I was, and

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<v Speaker 4>I always recognized that someone had something that I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>and I was willing to pay for it. Whether it

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<v Speaker 4>was a million dollars or ten million dollars worth of products,

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<v Speaker 4>I could buy them. And it all was based on

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not I had a choice. It's a big

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<v Speaker 4>world out there. I didn't have to buy from anyone

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<v Speaker 4>in particularly, but I had a choice of who knew

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<v Speaker 4>what they were doing, what they made, whether the products

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<v Speaker 4>were worth the money, the quality, whether I trust that

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<v Speaker 4>they would delivering them time, and on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 4>They could do anything I wanted to do, except where

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<v Speaker 4>the government regulations were involved. The government has the right

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<v Speaker 4>to stop trade with any country. The government has a

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<v Speaker 4>right to assess therap. The government has a right to

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<v Speaker 4>say we can't do business with a particular country. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember now if it's still in place, but there

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<v Speaker 4>was embargo. You couldn't buy from Miramar because their behavior

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<v Speaker 4>in human rights. I don't know if that still exists,

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<v Speaker 4>but I knew I couldn't go there. I couldn't do

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<v Speaker 4>business there. We can't do business and Cuba against the rules,

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<v Speaker 4>so you have to work within that, and there are

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<v Speaker 4>limitations that are put on business. China used to be

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<v Speaker 4>unfairly treated if you consider that quotas were put on

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<v Speaker 4>their country. They couldn't explot as much as they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to export until they were members of the World Trade Organization,

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<v Speaker 4>which if I remember collectly, Bill Clinton was in office

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<v Speaker 4>at the time that he pushed that through. Now I

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<v Speaker 4>understand all these limits and I worked around them. The

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<v Speaker 4>government seemed to understand what they were doing. But we

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<v Speaker 4>don't understand at the moment that the government has a

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<v Speaker 4>right to make these decisions a trade and I will

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<v Speaker 4>tell you this, this is not the first time trade

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<v Speaker 4>has become political. It's always been about what makes the

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<v Speaker 4>most sense for the best price wherever you want to be.

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<v Speaker 4>But the government has always gotten involved with what we

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<v Speaker 4>want to do. They set the rules. They have the

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<v Speaker 4>greatest interest involved, the strategic interests. They would establish what

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<v Speaker 4>countries we can import from and how many items we

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<v Speaker 4>could buy from any given country you take political Turkey

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<v Speaker 4>has always been a friend, but a friend with a

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<v Speaker 4>question mark. They are living two lives. They are involved

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<v Speaker 4>with one part of the world and involved with the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other part of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>But we are NATO and they've been our allies. But

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<v Speaker 4>keep them happy. We've always given them most favored trading status.

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<v Speaker 4>You could take countries like Bangladesh, who's always underprivileged and

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<v Speaker 4>always third world. We gave them extraordinary rights as they

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<v Speaker 4>and other developing countries part of the US government's decision

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<v Speaker 4>on what makes important. Oh, having said this, there should

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<v Speaker 4>be no surprise where we are today. Everything that was

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<v Speaker 4>done was done with our eyes wide open. We sent

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<v Speaker 4>people into China and told them we want to manufacture.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to teach you everything we know so you

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<v Speaker 4>can manufacture those things what they need for our country.

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<v Speaker 4>They stole nothing, we gave it to them. But now

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<v Speaker 4>at a point where trade seems to be in the

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<v Speaker 4>news and we're all confused. So I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 4>this opportunity again a week later, a month later, a

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<v Speaker 4>year later, to explain it again. I stated a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weeks ago, and I'm going to continue with today,

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<v Speaker 4>let's talk trade. But first let's talk what is fair trade.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's a revelation that again I've talked about many times,

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<v Speaker 4>there is no fair in this world. There's no fair

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<v Speaker 4>in life. There's no fair in anything. Fair is for kids,

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<v Speaker 4>just like tricks is for kids. It's a made up concept.

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<v Speaker 4>Nowhere as it's said in the world that fair is

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<v Speaker 4>fair in the Declaration of Independence, it's not anywhere to

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<v Speaker 4>be found in our constitution. There's no mention of the

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<v Speaker 4>word fair. And if you ask me to give you

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<v Speaker 4>a at home family discussion, is what's fair? I can

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<v Speaker 4>tell you can only hope for the best.

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<v Speaker 3>But if my.

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<v Speaker 4>Sons and I live to be a thousand years old,

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<v Speaker 4>the trade that relationship between us will never be fair.

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<v Speaker 4>I have and will have done more for Jesse and

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<v Speaker 4>my other son Jared, than they'll ever done for me.

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<v Speaker 4>They cannot catch up. It's not possible. But whatever the

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<v Speaker 4>relationship is, we've reached what we believe is a coexistence

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<v Speaker 4>that we can get something from each other that makes

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<v Speaker 4>sense in common sense. Unfortunately isn't so common in our

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<v Speaker 4>familyse Jared, go to school, work hard, do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will support you as a father. Treat me

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<v Speaker 4>with respect. I will support you as a father.

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<v Speaker 2>All the question is can I come in Before I

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<v Speaker 2>introduce you? I want to come in real quick. Hi, everybody, Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, I can't sit back and hear this. All

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<v Speaker 2>the times I help you with the printer, all the

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<v Speaker 2>times I help you with your iPad, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>that's value right there? No, I mean, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ever feed me maybe formula food?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever feed me from a bottle?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ever change my diaper?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever met?

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<v Speaker 4>Put you to sleep at night?

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<v Speaker 3>Take you to games? Come on?

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<v Speaker 4>How could you ever catch up with that?

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<v Speaker 3>You can't?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel insulted. I feel like I'm a good son

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<v Speaker 2>and I do a lot for you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my son, my co host Jesse Weber. Anyway, let

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<v Speaker 4>me just finish where I am here. Common sense is

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<v Speaker 4>in common, but here it's showing you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>look at it. You don't think you've done more for me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've done for you great. But here's what do

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<v Speaker 4>you want?

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<v Speaker 3>Is what you have to ask yourself in a nutshell?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want? What can you walk away from?

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<v Speaker 4>Whoever has the power to walk away in the end wins.

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<v Speaker 4>And the only people I want to talk to is

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<v Speaker 4>people that are sitting across the table from me that

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<v Speaker 4>weren't stupid, stupid people. The worst thing you can't negotiate

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<v Speaker 4>him because they don't know right from wrong. But in business,

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<v Speaker 4>there is no stupid. All the people across the table

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<v Speaker 4>from you are smart and smarter than you, and you

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<v Speaker 4>have to be on your game in order to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure you're smart. Now, the only argument I ever want

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<v Speaker 4>to get into, and the other side is in an

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<v Speaker 4>indefensible position.

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<v Speaker 3>And what you're looking.

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<v Speaker 4>At right now, accounting for the world today and the

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<v Speaker 4>trade policies that are put in place with our eyes

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<v Speaker 4>wide open government to government, we don't like what we're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing because it's indefensible the position over the years that

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<v Speaker 4>we put ourselves in with our allies or our competitors.

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<v Speaker 4>So Donald Trump is right for pressing the button and

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<v Speaker 4>making this happen. There is no fare. But we could

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<v Speaker 4>be smart, and we haven't been smart. Looking back to

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<v Speaker 4>how maybe we got here. During the Vietnam War, we

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<v Speaker 4>gave special status and special trade treatment to countries that

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<v Speaker 4>helped us in the war. If you look at the

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<v Speaker 4>war in North and South Korea back in the fifties,

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<v Speaker 4>we took care of the South, We defended them and

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<v Speaker 4>helped them fight off the North. And there were reasons

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<v Speaker 4>for it, and there are reasons they have its special

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<v Speaker 4>trade status with US.

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<v Speaker 3>You could look.

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<v Speaker 4>Back now and decide that anything you decided in the

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<v Speaker 4>course of history doesn't make sense in today's times. But

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<v Speaker 4>you can't put today's head on yesterday's decisions. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>where I think Donald Trump is wrong. It wasn't stupid people.

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<v Speaker 4>It was expeditious decisions that were made. You can't put

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<v Speaker 4>today's head on yesterday's decision. But our reconciliation is due,

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<v Speaker 4>and I support Donald Trump for what he's doing, but

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<v Speaker 4>the execution is what's in question. All should we ask,

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<v Speaker 4>all we should be hoping for, is they're smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>ninety day moratorium on just about every country in the negotiations.

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<v Speaker 4>No tax increases success for China. However, China is our

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<v Speaker 4>Negotiations need to take place on all of these major

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<v Speaker 4>imbalance of trade, there's a deficit in trade. It's logical

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<v Speaker 4>I basically have said what I need to say. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>it's easy to renegotiate now. It's easy to look at

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<v Speaker 4>what was having transpired over the last ten hundred years

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of international trade and be critical. I like

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<v Speaker 4>to believe at the time it was intilented, it made

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<v Speaker 4>sense for all the right reasons. Strategic business, economic partnerships

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<v Speaker 4>for the right reasons. Those agreements have been in place

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<v Speaker 4>for far too long. The defforts have been growing far

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<v Speaker 4>too big, and it's right that we are reclaiming the

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<v Speaker 4>power of America. You know, we talk about NATO, which

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<v Speaker 4>is the worst trade agreement ever made in the history

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<v Speaker 4>of mankind according to the government, according to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the time it was put in place, it

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<v Speaker 4>was to benefit trade on this continent between China, Mexico

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<v Speaker 4>without duty, without tariffs amongst them, so we could afford

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<v Speaker 4>to buy from each other rather than China, and on

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<v Speaker 4>top of it, we were closer to each other, so

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<v Speaker 4>it would have improved the operations. What went wrong It

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<v Speaker 4>was ill founded that the standard of living and many

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<v Speaker 4>of our countries and companies is very different than even

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<v Speaker 4>Canada or certainly Mexico, and most of the business shifted

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<v Speaker 4>outside the United States. So it's right to reclaim the

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<v Speaker 3>We are a.

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<v Speaker 4>Huge purchasing nature, probably the largest global purchaser in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>and with that strength and demands, we should ask for

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<v Speaker 4>and get what we want, or more importantly, not what

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<v Speaker 4>we want, what we need. We've got the leverage. Anytime

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<v Speaker 4>I ever had the leverage, I knew I was going

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<v Speaker 4>to win, they negotiate, I could walk away, they couldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Now's the time we need to be smart. We're fixing

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<v Speaker 4>the timetable. The President created the opportunity to renegotiate, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's what he's doing. The question is are we doing

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<v Speaker 4>it intelligently. My view, it was the timetable. Now that

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<v Speaker 4>we're clearing that up, it seems to make sense. We

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<v Speaker 4>can make our position clear, set a realistic timetable that

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<v Speaker 4>allows for our businesses and infrastructure to absorb change. Change

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<v Speaker 4>what we're doing, move it to other countries, pick new partners.

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<v Speaker 4>We needed to fix the deadline. I'm still worried about China.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been talking about trade for a year. In recent shows,

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<v Speaker 4>I laid out a plan. I can say, go back

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<v Speaker 4>and listen. It's the forbear of what Trump and the

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<v Speaker 4>administration's doing. They actually are doing what I said before

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<v Speaker 4>we did it. In twenty twenty, I was on CNBC

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<v Speaker 4>television talking Trump's war. I said, he's possibly there's not

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a war China. I love them for

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<v Speaker 4>what they are. They're hardcore, negotiated. They're an unlimited, low

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<v Speaker 4>cost workforce who's highly skilled, perhaps maybe the best in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. Now, I'm a businessman, not a politician. I

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<v Speaker 4>know what I need and I know what they can

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<v Speaker 4>deliver with my help. That can manufacture great products at

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<v Speaker 4>fair costs or if there is no such word as

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<v Speaker 4>fair at good cost. It's perfect for my business. The

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<v Speaker 4>politicians now are using all the leverage we have to

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<v Speaker 4>affect change on the geopolitical landscape, and that's their job.

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<v Speaker 4>We should be allies.

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<v Speaker 3>Not enemies. Now here's a tip.

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<v Speaker 4>This one's so simple and so stupid what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop disrespecting China in the media. We've made them our enemies.

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<v Speaker 4>In the media, everyone jumps on China. Could you imagine

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<v Speaker 4>if they did it to us and we were listening.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't like it either. You can't threaten them, You

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't want to be threatened. Don't put that back to

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<v Speaker 4>the wall. You wouldn't want your back to the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk with them privately. You'll find we have common goals.

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<v Speaker 4>You have concerns regarding their growing military present. Okay, mister President.

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<v Speaker 4>Build more ships, build more airplanes, invest in technology, build

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<v Speaker 4>a military now for practically the tenth time, and if

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<v Speaker 4>not the one hundred times again. And balance the trade.

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<v Speaker 4>We buy more than every other trading partner. If we're

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<v Speaker 4>buying five hundred billion from you and you're only buying

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred billion from me, I'm going to give you

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<v Speaker 4>a list of those things I think you should buying

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<v Speaker 4>from us, and I want you to work out a

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<v Speaker 4>plan to make up the difference of the three hundred million. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>if you tell me you're not as big a country

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<v Speaker 4>as we are, and it's only right that we're buying

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<v Speaker 4>more than you, I'll listen. If you're a smaller country,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't expect Australia to buy as much from US

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<v Speaker 4>as we buy from them. Perhaps I'm told we import

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<v Speaker 4>twenty billion dollars of beef from Australia. They don't buy

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<v Speaker 4>our beef. So we've got to figure this out. And

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<v Speaker 4>where are they going to say, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>buy beef, Okay, buy something else. So China buys less

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<v Speaker 4>from us than we buy from them, that's because they've

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<v Speaker 4>been smarter than us. We like what they have more

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<v Speaker 4>than they like what we have. We should do something

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<v Speaker 4>about it, come on, President Trump, But not in public forum,

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<v Speaker 4>behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not China's fault now, or is it ever?

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<v Speaker 3>It's our fault.

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<v Speaker 4>We allowed this to happen. We made it very easy

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<v Speaker 4>for them. And for years and years and years since

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety seven China went into Hong Kong. I think

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety was the start of the World Trade Organization,

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<v Speaker 4>which freed them up to do whatever they needed to do.

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<v Speaker 4>What have we done about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 4>Because China at the moment is more industrialized than us.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a.

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<v Speaker 4>Manufacturing economy and mentality, and because they have an endlest

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<v Speaker 4>of high people who work at lower wages comparable to

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<v Speaker 4>our country and the rest of the world. They have

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<v Speaker 4>a work ethic that's not to be believed. I used

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<v Speaker 4>to go to Hong Kong and see them put a

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<v Speaker 4>skyscraper up in less than a year. It would take

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<v Speaker 4>us ten years here in the United States just for

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<v Speaker 4>the permits, let alone building it. They get the permits,

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<v Speaker 4>they get it done. China's people are industrios, their go

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<v Speaker 4>to people. They get things done, and missed the president.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not forget all, if not all, so much of

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<v Speaker 4>our clothes, our shoes, our tables, our chairs, our umbrellas,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever what not are affordable. Americans can stretch their paychecks

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<v Speaker 4>because of the hard work of the Chinese people. Now

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<v Speaker 4>hold that thought, I want to go to Japan. I

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<v Speaker 4>spent so much time in Jampan. Believe that your hero

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<v Speaker 4>here had been to Japan fifty times. I walked the

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<v Speaker 4>streets in Tokyo, I'd walked the streets of Osaka. I

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<v Speaker 4>loved their culture, and I remember seeing very few Western

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't feel comfortable there. I don't know what the reason,

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<v Speaker 4>but I remember I did business there, but more relevantly,

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<v Speaker 4>I always remember I didn't see American cars. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>understand it. Japanese cars were styled brilliantly, they were less

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<v Speaker 4>expensive than American cars, and they had a reputation for excellent,

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<v Speaker 4>reliable quality. At the same time, you couldn't say that

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<v Speaker 4>for American cars, although our muscle cars in particular were

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<v Speaker 4>worldly cool. And I remember at one point General Motors

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<v Speaker 4>came out with a new Firebird, great styling, great callers,

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<v Speaker 4>great price, and it had a reputation for liability. And

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<v Speaker 4>as a turn, I was at a level in the company.

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<v Speaker 4>I was entitled to have my personal car that the

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<v Speaker 4>company would pay in sure for me and give me

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<v Speaker 4>to drive as part of my compensation. And I got

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<v Speaker 4>this Firebird and I loved it, and I remember saying

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<v Speaker 4>to myself, why isn't this car or any other cars

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<v Speaker 4>in Japan. So I was in Japan one day talking

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<v Speaker 4>with some of the people I did business with, and

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<v Speaker 4>I said, why don't you guys buy American cars? And

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<v Speaker 4>they started to laugh politely, they're very polite, they said,

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<v Speaker 4>when you came here General Motors, and we went to

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<v Speaker 4>your trade fair, do you realize we drive on the

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<v Speaker 4>right side. You drive on the left side, and the

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<v Speaker 4>only cars you offered for sale were right were left

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<v Speaker 4>handed driving cars. That's not globally responsible. We're losers. We

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<v Speaker 4>weren't thinking right. Can you imagine that we're making cars

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<v Speaker 4>that they don't work? It doesn't make sense. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote an email to the CEO of General Motors

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<v Speaker 4>when I came back. I was feeling big in those days.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to be important. As you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>any law I said, what are we doing? I did

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<v Speaker 4>get back a letter from someone in General Motors cycle bibble.

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<v Speaker 4>It was an answer for a better world, but it

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<v Speaker 4>was not the right answer. We weren't smart traders. We

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<v Speaker 4>weren't thinking about when needed to be. Then the quality

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't as good as the Japanese. As was a crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to blame the Japanese for making better cars

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<v Speaker 4>than we. You want to make the Japanese for understanding

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<v Speaker 4>we drive on the left side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what has happened over the years, but

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<v Speaker 4>she is. We needed to learn to become global. So

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<v Speaker 4>if we didn't understand it, go to Hong Kong, go

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<v Speaker 4>to the United's Kingdom, go to London. Mercedes figured out

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<v Speaker 4>what to do. The Koreans figured out what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>The Japanese figured out what to do. They drive on

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<v Speaker 4>the right, so they bought they built cars that way.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to China. You can't blame

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<v Speaker 4>China for having inexpensive labor versus the United States. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't blame them for being competitive, even more competitive. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>get smart now, we need inexpensive products from China. Now

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<v Speaker 4>I have to tell you China is not the inexpensive

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<v Speaker 4>source any longer. Bangladesh, Vietnam, there are many other companies

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<v Speaker 4>cheaper than China. But China manufactures with great skill in

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<v Speaker 4>quantity and quality. Every one of those people and their

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<v Speaker 4>factories are expert at it. Their manufacturing responsibilities are always

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<v Speaker 4>well deserved. They set a price, they deliver on time,

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<v Speaker 4>and the product is right. And don't forget for a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>our economy needs a low price. A huge, huge part

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<v Speaker 4>of the Americ consumer's requirement is prices that are affordable.

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you right now that the current procedures

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<v Speaker 4>in going in place in the trade negotiation and public forum.

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<v Speaker 4>If we don't fix this with China, it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>destroy luxury retail and whostsale in the United States. Most

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<v Speaker 4>Most of them are coming from China, and at prices

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<v Speaker 4>people want to pay. If I said it, China is

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<v Speaker 4>no longer the low cost producing country. They're skilled and

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<v Speaker 4>alternatives at the moment and the quantities and the scope

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<v Speaker 4>of business that exist with the United States and China

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<v Speaker 4>to make t shirt, to make shoes, and we don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to make those goods.

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<v Speaker 3>We're paying people in the.

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<v Speaker 4>United States a different standard of levering. We don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to make minimum wage t shirts. We have to make

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<v Speaker 4>in computers, we want our people making computer chips. We

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<v Speaker 4>want them making iPhones. We wanted to make cars. We

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<v Speaker 4>want them to make a decent wage in this country,

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<v Speaker 4>making twenty dollars an hour for products that command the

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<v Speaker 4>higher price because they may command higher skills. We need

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<v Speaker 4>this for our workers. You can't tell me that artificial

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<v Speaker 4>intelligence or robots are going to be able to build

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<v Speaker 4>and make those products competitively. And if they are, how

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<v Speaker 4>long from now?

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<v Speaker 3>We can't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Miss the President exclude a peril and footwear from these tariffs,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly in China, or extend the deadline with China on

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<v Speaker 4>these categories for the hundred times balance the trade. Here's

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<v Speaker 4>the solution. Give them a list of what we want

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<v Speaker 4>them to buy, let them work on it. They'll come

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<v Speaker 4>back to this reciprocal trade. Very simple solution. Also add

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<v Speaker 4>up all the protection of tariffs that are being put

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<v Speaker 4>in place on merchandise and products. So you want to

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<v Speaker 4>sell them to these individual companies and look at what

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<v Speaker 4>are collective protection of tariffs and then either eliminate them,

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<v Speaker 4>which I don't think is possibly because unless you ait

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<v Speaker 4>a vath tax or consumption sax, we make the money

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<v Speaker 4>tons of millions and trillions of dollars from these taxing

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<v Speaker 4>products that are coming into this country. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>take them all to reciprocal, that's the first win. If

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<v Speaker 4>not match it exactly and then figure out another way

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<v Speaker 4>of taxing. Now, the answer to these issues is common sense.

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<v Speaker 4>No one can argue against this policy. In conclusion, I

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<v Speaker 4>support the president. They're finally doing what needs to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>They're extending the timetable, so it's not immediate. Yes and no,

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<v Speaker 4>I've said what makes sense to do the timetable is

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<v Speaker 4>a massive problem, but it's being fixed. Change it with China.

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<v Speaker 4>Extend the deadlines, please, and stop negotiating with China through

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<v Speaker 4>the media. Talk to them face to face. Chairman. She

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<v Speaker 4>and Donald Trump are both very tough guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We get it.

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<v Speaker 4>You both have strong personalities.

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<v Speaker 3>We get it.

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<v Speaker 4>You both want to do what's best for your country.

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<v Speaker 4>We get it. You don't hang your laundry out. Never

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<v Speaker 4>let anyone outside the family know what you're thinking, Mikey

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<v Speaker 4>Coleone said, face to face. Quietly, having said this, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>now reintroduce my son, my co host, my lawyer, Jesse Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yess, you make a very good argument. I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're kind of in an unpredictable territory right now with everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. One of the things I think that's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>that you haven't addressed is the reaction. So I got

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you we were in a position where Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump supporters, whether those are media figures, financial people, congressional members,

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<v Speaker 2>they would support him through anything. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the wallet, when it comes to the economy, when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the piggy bank, I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating to see them turning on him and questioning him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder whether or not that influenced him for

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<v Speaker 2>the ninety day pause, because what do you see On

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, there are those who say, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just give it time, see what happens. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>negotiating tool that I've seen commentators even suggest the really

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<v Speaker 2>ones who will support him throughout anything, it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal to lose money. Hey, you lose money, It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what life's all about.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't look at my four oh one ks, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't look at my stock market. Really, that's that's the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's something to be said that even

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are art in Trump supporters are very

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about what he's doing. I haven't seen anything like

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<v Speaker 2>that before. For all the things that President Trump has done,

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<v Speaker 2>even when he's president, when he wasn't president, that are questionable,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the thing that you've seen people turn on

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<v Speaker 2>him for. Isn't that interesting to see?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'd stop by saying behind anyone with vision, they're

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<v Speaker 4>fifty well intentioned people undermining that vision. Now, the currncern

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<v Speaker 4>I've had from day one on all of this was

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<v Speaker 4>the timetable. As I said earlier, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>negotiate trade agreements with one hundred different countries, seventy of

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<v Speaker 4>them have pointed out that they're ready. It takes time

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<v Speaker 4>to agree on what to gree By extending the timelines,

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to be proven to be right. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to win far more than we're going to lose, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to straighten out this country. Now, we should

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<v Speaker 4>take a porse to take a big breath. If we

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<v Speaker 4>do the same thing with China, all it takes is

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<v Speaker 4>one phone call privately and both parties say we came

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<v Speaker 4>to an agreement to wait ninety days. This maniacal paranoia

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<v Speaker 4>will change. The stock market will go back. I said

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<v Speaker 4>it again earlier. I own Apple stock. There's nothing going

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<v Speaker 4>on here that's gonna change Apple's future. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>a blip, of course, they'll go up for a little while.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll come back to normal over time. So Trump has

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<v Speaker 4>a plan. They haven't done a good job of sharing it.

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<v Speaker 4>All they've done is shown their bravado by the adjustment

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<v Speaker 4>to ninety days on Wednesday, big, big, big difference. And

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see on my belief the stock market will rebound.

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<v Speaker 4>I've said all along, cool heads have to prevail.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a logic to this. There's a logic.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm buying ten dollars from you, I want you

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<v Speaker 4>to buy ten dollars from me, or explain to me

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<v Speaker 4>why you can't. If I'm buying one hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>worth of product from you and you're buying ten billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollars for me, that's a big difference. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>can't buy as much as me, I would like to

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<v Speaker 4>know why. But if you're only going to do that,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a problem. You could do a lot better. I

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<v Speaker 4>will give you a list of industries that you can

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<v Speaker 4>buy from. You know, the companies come in and do better,

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<v Speaker 4>and that negotiation, believe me, is going to work. And

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<v Speaker 4>believe me, I couldn't wait to see what happened to

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<v Speaker 4>the stock market once this did it, and then it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to improve even more so, so I'm good with it.

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<v Speaker 4>And again I go back to what I said, Jesse.

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<v Speaker 4>Any time I've ever had a great idea, the nicest people,

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<v Speaker 4>the smartest people fought me all the way always. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>give you a great example. You know, back in van

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<v Speaker 4>using days. I recognize that I wanted to spend a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of money advertising men's stress shirts because it was

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest business in the company, and we put a

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<v Speaker 4>substantial budget behind advertising men's stress shirt. And the interesting

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<v Speaker 4>thing is one year, one season, I decided to put

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<v Speaker 4>all my money in women's magazines, men's dress shirt and

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<v Speaker 4>women's magazines. Now everybody said, what are you crazy where

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<v Speaker 4>we're selling men's shirts, And I said to him, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the thing. Men know who we are. Men walk

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<v Speaker 4>into stores. We're all over the stores. We have big presentations.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to see us. The best form of advertising

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<v Speaker 4>is shelf space, and we have it. But women are

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<v Speaker 4>influential and purchasing of men's shirts. They're influencing seventy percent

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<v Speaker 4>of all the purchasing of men's shirts, whether through their children,

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<v Speaker 4>whether they're their significant others, whether through their husbands. They

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<v Speaker 4>are making decisions. Everyone fought me year that year, Marketing

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<v Speaker 4>Age Many made me award of one of the top

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred marketing people in the country for doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>and our business grew dramatically and we established ourselves with women.

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<v Speaker 4>But everyone fought me tooth and nail when I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to put a billboard up in Yankee Stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody cares about baseball? What? Three million visitors a year,

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<v Speaker 4>all the TV coverage winning the World Series, Men, Women Global,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone watched the New York Yankees.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone came.

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<v Speaker 4>I had people from LVMH, the President on down sitting

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<v Speaker 4>front row and New York Yankees and they've never even

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<v Speaker 4>been to a ballgame. And everyone in the company dk

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<v Speaker 4>WY at the time fort me and to this day,

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been in that company for ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a.

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<v Speaker 4>Bigger billboard in Yankee Stadium. So that's what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the President has to take the heat,

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<v Speaker 4>but he and his staff have to be smart. And

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<v Speaker 4>now that they put a timetable change in, I've said

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<v Speaker 4>all I want to say. I am tired of talking trade,

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<v Speaker 4>but I am hoping now two weeks in a row,

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<v Speaker 4>under great stress, definitions and explanations of what we need

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<v Speaker 4>to think about. I've made my pitch to the president.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool heads need to prevail. We're going to take a break.

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight's show is entitled I'll Trade You, We come back.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll do some more trading, but slightly different.

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<v Speaker 3>Always in fashion.

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<v Speaker 4>I spent a lifetime of my career building the van

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<v Speaker 4>Usen brand, and I am so pleased that they're back

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<v Speaker 4>with us now talking about suits. Men were dressing up again,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can

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<v Speaker 4>be won on multiple occasions, in multiple ways. You could

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<v Speaker 4>wear a suit formally to go out at night or

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<v Speaker 4>to an event. You can wear a suit to the

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<v Speaker 4>office with or without a tie. If you look closely,

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<v Speaker 4>now fashion trends, suits are being worn with turtlenecks or

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<v Speaker 4>mark next. The choices are endless and every one of

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<v Speaker 4>them looks right. You could really really look the part.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that packaging yourself is as important does the

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<v Speaker 4>products you package, and wearing a suit is one of

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<v Speaker 4>those things that make men look their best. Venuesn't invented

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<v Speaker 4>a new idea. It's called the cool flex suit. It's

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<v Speaker 4>been engineered with stretch technology, giving you the most comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>fit and mobility. It's wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool moisture wiki.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes it perfect for all occasions. As we discussed

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<v Speaker 4>just now, this new style of looking sharp while feeling

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<v Speaker 4>cool and comfortable is amazing, and I'm so excited that

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<v Speaker 4>the van Using company is involved in this new technology

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<v Speaker 4>and is embracing the whole idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Of dressing up.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not forget van Usen made it's name with dress shirts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's only proper that the suit business follows strongly in

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<v Speaker 4>its way. You can find van Using Kolflex Men's stretch

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<v Speaker 4>suits at jcpenny or online at jcpenny dot com. Guys,

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<v Speaker 4>they're great, you should go look at them. Donna Karen

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<v Speaker 4>began her career as one of the finest, most successful,

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<v Speaker 4>powerful women in the fashion industry. She developed a collection

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<v Speaker 4>aimed at the luxury market for women on the go,

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<v Speaker 4>women who were powerful in their workplace, women who had

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<v Speaker 4>lives that extended beyond the workplace, and her clothes went

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<v Speaker 4>from day and tonight. An extraordinary collection. But the interesting

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<v Speaker 4>thing Donna Karen had a young daughter and she had

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<v Speaker 4>friends and they couldn't afford to buy the Donna Karen collection,

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<v Speaker 4>and Donna invented dk n Y Donna Karen New York.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an offshoot of the Donna Karen collection. The same

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<v Speaker 4>concept a lifestyle brand. Then we talk about lifestyle brands,

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<v Speaker 4>what does that really mean? Simply what they say, there

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<v Speaker 4>are brands that follow you throughout your lifestyle. You get

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<v Speaker 4>up in the morning, you start to get dressed Donna

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to it was in fashion. Here's your host,

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was a little boy and I had trading cards,

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<v Speaker 4>baseball cards, that's what they were called. I had a card,

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<v Speaker 4>somebody else had another card I wanted. I agreed to

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<v Speaker 4>give up something. I had to get it in return.

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<v Speaker 4>Every one of us has been a tradesman. We've all traded,

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<v Speaker 4>We've all negotiated. Men, women, every age, every size, every shape.

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<v Speaker 3>We trade.

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<v Speaker 4>Every day we walk into a restaurant. We're making a

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<v Speaker 4>decision to purchase food in a restaurant and pay for

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<v Speaker 4>it with our money. We consider it a good trade

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<v Speaker 4>because we're getting value in exchange. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 4>it is you go into buy gasoline. You need gasoline,

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<v Speaker 4>you buy gasoline. We've talked about trade, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>tonight's show is now. Having said that, the lot goes

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<v Speaker 4>into this a lot of legalities and my son, my

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<v Speaker 4>co host, my fellow trader, Jesse Weber, Jesse My got

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<v Speaker 4>what's been going on with Trump in the world right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you talk about tariffs, I think it presents

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting legal question because you're already seeing proposed

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuits regarding the tariff's current lawsuits, and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>main issues is does the president have the power to

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<v Speaker 2>impose these tariffs, because generally speaking, that's yes, it's the president.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's the president.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the purview of Congress. Congress has the power

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<v Speaker 2>to regulate trade. Congress has the power to impose tariffs. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the president could say, I have the authority under a

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<v Speaker 2>specific federal law. It's called the International Emergency Economic Powers

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen seventy seven, And his argument would be that

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<v Speaker 2>under this law, when there is a national crisis, a

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<v Speaker 2>national emergency, the president can regulate international commerce. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>the emergency, Well, the flow of fentanyl, the flow of

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<v Speaker 2>drugs into the country. I can use tariffs as a

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<v Speaker 2>bargaining chip to stop something like that. Ah feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a stretch. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Supreme Court would support him on this.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been commentary that would suggest that it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a nine to zero decision that what he's doing could

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<v Speaker 2>be unconstitutional and illegal. And I think that that is

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting position to be in. We talk about

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not he would get he's not getting the

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<v Speaker 2>support that he wants universal support for the tariffs. He

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<v Speaker 2>might not get support in the courts.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't there's something else with the strategic country's well being

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<v Speaker 4>dating back to the seventeen hundreds or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me just say. The other argument that I

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<v Speaker 2>would say is they could say, over time, Congress has

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<v Speaker 2>relinquished some of its power regarding tariffs to the president.

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<v Speaker 2>But the counter argument to that would be that you

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<v Speaker 2>really need Congress outright make it clear we are giving

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<v Speaker 2>up our authority to the president when it comes to tariffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and they haven't done that. So I think he's in

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that that's what presents a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of controversy for the president. So anyway, that's what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on with the tarwer and the courts?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, how could the president then go so far if

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<v Speaker 4>there's a chance that Congress could step in?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sorry, Where have you been the last few months?

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<v Speaker 2>Have we not seen the president trying every which way

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<v Speaker 2>to see how far his authority goes and to see

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<v Speaker 2>if the courts will stop him from deportations, the firing

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<v Speaker 2>probationary workers to now the tariffs. Look, I don't blame

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and the administration for trying to do what

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do, but you can't blame the courts

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<v Speaker 2>for stepping in and saying you're not following the law.

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<v Speaker 2>But he has the right to try to go as

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<v Speaker 2>far as he can. He's just getting stopped. He's really

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<v Speaker 2>putting the limits on presidential authority and executive authority. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a very interesting time to have a legal analysis.

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<v Speaker 4>Are any Republican congressman trying to stop him when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to tariffs?

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<v Speaker 2>'re seeing a little bit of pushback, just.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is another example where the Democrats are on

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong side of offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Ted Cruz, okay, Ted Cruz, who, by the way, this

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<v Speaker 2>is Donald Trump used to make fun of Ted Cruz

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<v Speaker 2>made fun of his wife. He's a supporter of the

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<v Speaker 2>president nonetheless. But even now, when it comes to the tariffs,

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying, either this will be a great bargaining chip

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<v Speaker 2>to get the other countries to come forward and negotiate

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<v Speaker 2>good trade deals. But he's pushed back and said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how good these things are. It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>He never went back against the president despite all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to tariffs, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the economy, when it comes to your wallet, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>you see pushback.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, it only leads me into a subject. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>as I said, behind anyone with vision, they're fifty well

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<v Speaker 4>intentioned people undermining that vision. I think the president is

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<v Speaker 4>being brilliant. I think he's got balls as big as

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<v Speaker 4>an elephant. And I don't think he's afraid of doing anything. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I only pray. I have my fingers crossed. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like looking at my four oh one k. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like looking at anything. I don't like looking at any statements.

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<v Speaker 4>What's going on from from financial point of view. But

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<v Speaker 4>if they calm down and do it smart, and do

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<v Speaker 4>their homework and handle it properly, I have great faith

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<v Speaker 4>in the decisions that have being made, except for China publicly. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>what's saying that I want to talk about what's in

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<v Speaker 4>my life? I was brilliant, Jesse. You think I'm brilliant

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<v Speaker 4>more than once in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say so, even though you don't give yourself

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<v Speaker 2>enough credit.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you for that. You're usually hounding me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what have I ever said? You're not brilliant, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not smart?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you. I really appreciate that. I used to

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<v Speaker 4>be important, you know, I would think, oh, well, my

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<v Speaker 4>son saying I'm brom lost for words. Thank you, which

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<v Speaker 4>brings me to Have you seen the Bob Dylan interview

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<v Speaker 4>on sixty minutes from the year two thousand and four. No, well,

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<v Speaker 4>he was interviewed, of course because the movie A Complete

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<v Speaker 4>Unknown Coming Out was interviewed, and in very awful terms.

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<v Speaker 4>The moderator from sixty minutes asked him, how did you

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<v Speaker 4>write those songs? They were so brilliant, and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>and he thought about it, and he took a pause

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<v Speaker 4>and he said, I don't know. All I can tell

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<v Speaker 4>you was it was magical. And he said, not the

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<v Speaker 4>Siegfried and Roy kind of magical. It was something between

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<v Speaker 4>me and the world that these words came into my

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<v Speaker 4>mind and I wrote these songs. And the guy said,

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<v Speaker 4>it's brilliant. Can you do it again? And he said,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't want to even try to sit down because

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<v Speaker 4>I know I can't do it again. And he said

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<v Speaker 4>to him, how does that make you feel? He said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I know I did it once and I could do

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<v Speaker 4>something else, which speaks to me because we're talking about trade,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want to tell you that once in my

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<v Speaker 4>life was brilliant. I was working for van Usin at

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<v Speaker 4>the time, and the entire textile industry in the United

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<v Speaker 4>States didn't make sense. They put the emphasis on the

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<v Speaker 4>suppliers and not the end users. There were huge textile

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<v Speaker 4>mills making the fabric that controlled everything, and they said

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<v Speaker 4>all the rules. They would tell you how much to buy,

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<v Speaker 4>what you'd pay for it. You had no other alternative

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<v Speaker 4>because it was all in the United States. I won't

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<v Speaker 4>say all the mills were hoots with each other, but

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<v Speaker 4>the prices were all the same. The quantities they made

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<v Speaker 4>you buy created surplus. It was not a good environment.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was brought into the dress shirt business watching this,

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<v Speaker 4>and I watched it for about a week ten days,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, there's no way you can sustain this.

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<v Speaker 4>This makes no sense. And at the time when I

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<v Speaker 4>was watching it, there were people who were middlemen. They

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<v Speaker 4>were called agents entrepreneurs who would go to Japan, Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 4>and Korea and offer alternatives to companies like myself to

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<v Speaker 4>buy fabric at lower prices and less quantities and better quality.

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<v Speaker 4>Just think about what these you wanted at a lower

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<v Speaker 4>price and better quality. And we didn't know anything about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and we started to buy from them. Let's just say,

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<v Speaker 4>without going into the long story, I realized that there

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<v Speaker 4>was a world outside the United States and textile that

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't know and we needed to explore. And I

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<v Speaker 4>went to my boss at the time, vice president and

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<v Speaker 4>general manager, said, I want to go to Asia. I

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<v Speaker 4>think we could do better. I now know where all

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<v Speaker 4>these mills are. We know what they're doing. Why do

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<v Speaker 4>we need a middleman to go and do this for us?

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, let me get back to you, and

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<v Speaker 4>he went to the president of the company. The president

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<v Speaker 4>of the company agreed that we could make a trip

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<v Speaker 4>that based on our explanation and based on the surpluses

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<v Speaker 4>we were creating, and based upon the fact that the

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<v Speaker 4>world was changing, fashion and dreasure and church in general

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<v Speaker 4>was exploding, and we were being limited by a small

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<v Speaker 4>choice of ideas in the United States. And they sent

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<v Speaker 4>us on a way, and I went to Asian, and

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<v Speaker 4>I realized in Asian that there was a better mouth,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a better way to do this. And I

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<v Speaker 4>learned textiles from the ground up. I knew everything about

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<v Speaker 4>the yarn, how you weave, how many machines you need

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<v Speaker 4>to get the quantities you need, how long it takes,

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<v Speaker 4>what the prices should be. I understood that if a

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<v Speaker 4>pattern a shirt pattern was mostly white with a black stripe,

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<v Speaker 4>in behalf the price of a mostly black shirt with

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<v Speaker 4>a white stripe. I learned everything that was to know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I became I kid you, not even at my

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<v Speaker 4>young age. I was younger than you, Jesse. I was

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<v Speaker 4>one of the pre eminent, if not the most, knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 4>man in the United States about purchasing textiles overseas.

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<v Speaker 3>I was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 4>If you ask me like you asked Bob Dylan today,

840
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 4>if you asked me, can I do this again? I

841
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:48.480
<v Speaker 4>don't think so. I don't know how. At twenty six

842
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 4>years old, I figured this all out, but I did,

843
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 4>and I thought, being that we're trading and we're talking

844
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 4>about trade, I wanted to share some of the lessons

845
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I learned along the way because I was drawn to

846
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 4>a And here's some of the keys to being a

847
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 4>smart trade negotiated. First of all, you have to be thorough.

848
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 4>You have to know what all the options are. So

849
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 4>the negotiator is right now with Donald Trump's group. If

850
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 4>you're going to take us out of China, where am

851
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 4>I going to make my sneakers? Vulcanized shoes, that's what

852
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 4>they're called. You know, the bottoms of sneakers are attached

853
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:29.880
<v Speaker 4>with glue and under high pressure and heat. Very few

854
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 4>countries have this expertise. So where are we going to

855
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 4>get all those sneakers wh're not there's a problem. So

856
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 4>if Donald Trump and team want to close off China,

857
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 4>what are they going to do close off the sneaker business?

858
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.559
<v Speaker 4>It's one of the hottest, most important businesses in this

859
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 4>country and around the world. So you one, you have

860
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.920
<v Speaker 4>to be thorough. Number two, you have to be smart.

861
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.519
<v Speaker 4>If you're going to make a decision, you have to

862
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 4>make sure you're making the right You always have to

863
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.559
<v Speaker 4>be clever. If Donald Trump and company came to us

864
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 4>and said, hey, you no longer can make sneakers in China,

865
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 4>but we've found out that bank, the Desh has the

866
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 4>ability to make five million pair a day.

867
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 3>You go there.

868
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.559
<v Speaker 4>We've already talked to Bangladesh. We're to give them special treatment.

869
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 4>So you have to be clever negotiation. You have to

870
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 4>be nice. You have to always have a smile on

871
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.039
<v Speaker 4>your face. It's not personal, it's business. And you have

872
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.079
<v Speaker 4>to be at the same time very tough. And you

873
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.079
<v Speaker 4>have to know what's the difference between those two. You

874
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.320
<v Speaker 4>could smile and still be tough. What you need is

875
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 4>to know what you need, not what you want, and

876
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:32.000
<v Speaker 4>what do you want? You have to understand the negotiation

877
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 4>if you have the ability to walk away. That goes

878
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 4>back to being thorough. If I go to five different

879
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 4>countries and I know all of them make the product

880
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm interested in, and the country that I selected to

881
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 4>do the business with, or the company I selected to

882
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.480
<v Speaker 4>do the business with is not treating me the way

883
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.000
<v Speaker 4>I want to be treated. There are ten other companies

884
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.599
<v Speaker 4>in that country I could go to, or there are

885
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 4>ten other countries. If you know the market and you've

886
00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:00.280
<v Speaker 4>been thorough, you can walk away. Now. You always need options,

887
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 4>You always need to know what your choices are, and

888
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.119
<v Speaker 4>you have them because.

889
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 3>You were thorough.

890
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I want to tell you how I would organize a

891
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:11.239
<v Speaker 4>trip to buy textiles or buy anything for that matter, overseas.

892
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 4>The first decision you make is based on your knowledge,

893
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 4>based on the products you want to acquire, which countries,

894
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.679
<v Speaker 4>which cities, which companies have the ability to make your product,

895
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.679
<v Speaker 4>and you lay it out. In my case, the choice

896
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 4>is just to give you a few well, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, Malaysia,

897
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 4>and Japan. And on my first swing through, that's what

898
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 4>I would do. I would have probably one hundred to

899
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.719
<v Speaker 4>two hundred items that I needed to purchase, and the

900
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 4>value of those purchases in my early days was about

901
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 4>twenty five million dollars, which in turn represented about one

902
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.280
<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty to two hundred million dollars worth of

903
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 4>product and department stores. I would visit all of these

904
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 4>cities and all the companies that I thought made sense.

905
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 4>On my swing through, I visited the suppliers. And here's

906
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 4>the best thing I learned learn from each meeting you

907
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 4>have you walk into your first meeting and somebody says

908
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 4>to you, you know where the best Oxford shirt fabric

909
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 4>in the world is made. It's made in China. Now

910
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.199
<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you that they can export it on time.

911
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't know enough about their business. Let's say I'm

912
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 4>sitting in Japan, but that Oxford is great, and the

913
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 4>twenty cents a yard cheaper than me. I could charge

914
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 4>you a dollar twenty They'll charge it up the next

915
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:28.559
<v Speaker 4>meeting I'm going to. I sit in the meeting and said,

916
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 4>what do you know about Oxford? Where would you buy

917
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 4>Oxford if you and me? And sure enough I already

918
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 4>learned about China. I would visit all my suppliers. I

919
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.360
<v Speaker 4>would learn as you go along, and each meeting I

920
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 4>would regroup, and every time I went, I would go

921
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 4>along my swing to all the companies. I'd spend a

922
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:48.679
<v Speaker 4>week all the cities, and I would sit and then

923
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 4>I grew group in Hong Kong. In Hong Kong, I

924
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.239
<v Speaker 4>would sit down and look at everything I learned and

925
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:58.159
<v Speaker 4>then determine where, in fact I would go back to execute.

926
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.360
<v Speaker 4>I always knew that if my plan wasn't going to

927
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 4>work and I wanted to buy something in Japan at

928
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:06.039
<v Speaker 4>factory number one. If they said no, I knew the

929
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 4>other factories in Japan. If Japan was insistent, then I

930
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 4>would go to Taiwan. So I had a back door,

931
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 4>I had an exit. I knew what I want. That's

932
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.719
<v Speaker 4>the way you negotiate from strength.

933
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Having have it.

934
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Now, I want to change the subject just a bit,

935
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 4>because every one of us is aware of country of origin.

936
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Where do you want to make products? Well, if it

937
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 4>was up to me today, with the momentum and the

938
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 4>United States, I'd make everything in the United States. Let's

939
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.719
<v Speaker 4>assume for the moment I could, everything would be a

940
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.039
<v Speaker 4>lot more expensive. When it comes to the products I'm

941
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 4>talking about, footwear, accessories, apparel just too expensive. Now, what

942
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 4>I've learned is only in luxury are people willing to

943
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.159
<v Speaker 4>pay for where it's made. In fact, if you're buying

944
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 4>a handbag feetne for three thousand dollars or more for

945
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.880
<v Speaker 4>that matter, if it's not made in Paris or somewhere

946
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.639
<v Speaker 4>in Italy, nobody's gonna buy it. They don't want to

947
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:05.880
<v Speaker 4>see made in China. Why are they seeing made in

948
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 4>China for luxury goods? They'll pay for it, but they

949
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 4>expect that in turn. Now, did you know made in Italy?

950
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Here's where it gets tricky. While the label doesn't say well,

951
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:18.960
<v Speaker 4>let's say it this way. The label made in Italy

952
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 4>says made in Italy. Did you know that Milan, one

953
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 4>of the great manufacturing centers of Italy, is really made

954
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 4>in Italy by Chinese workers. There's one hundred thousand Chinese

955
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:35.079
<v Speaker 4>workers trained in China living in Italy making those products

956
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:35.440
<v Speaker 4>that are.

957
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Made in it.

958
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.679
<v Speaker 4>Even Laura piano wool can be products shipped to China

959
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 4>made in China. So everything is different. America nice to have,

960
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 4>but people won't pay for it. I learned that the

961
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 4>hard way over the line, Jesse, I have a question

962
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 4>for you. You see your shirt you like? One is

963
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 4>in Gap and one is American Eagle. They have the

964
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 4>same shirt. The American Eagle shirt is fifteen dollars, the

965
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.440
<v Speaker 4>one in Gap is ten. Which one are you buying?

966
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 3>Ten? Exactly?

967
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:06.320
<v Speaker 4>Why you don't want to pay five thousand?

968
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Made in America? You know, exactly?

969
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting.

970
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting.

971
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I would pause maybe if I would do it, but

972
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>in the end of the day, I probably just want

973
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 2>to pay the cheaper price.

974
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 4>Walmart, the largest retail in the world sells great product

975
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 4>at fair great product at low price. Do you think

976
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 4>they're willing to buy products that are made in America

977
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 4>if they have to raise their prices above the comfort level?

978
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 3>No way.

979
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 4>One of the companies I was responsible for back in

980
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 4>my day with LVMH was Thomas Pink Shirts of German Street,

981
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 4>great London shirt manufacturer.

982
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:47.320
<v Speaker 3>They were on.

983
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 4>German Street in London, which was the high street that

984
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 4>was responsible for all the custom made suits with Tsavo

985
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 4>Row all the custom made shirts, brilliant shopping area, beautiful

986
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 4>British made shirts. When I got there, everything was made

987
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:03.360
<v Speaker 4>in the UK. He didn't last for long because new

988
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 4>competitors came out.

989
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Jesse.

990
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 4>What's the name of the stores The British shirt meger

991
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 4>is in every.

992
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Mall now Charles de Witt.

993
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that guy came out and under cut Thomas Pink

994
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 4>by fifty dollars a shirt. Our shirts were two hundred.

995
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.360
<v Speaker 4>They were selling them for one fifty. Then they came

996
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 4>out with four for two hundred. We had a price stresses.

997
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.679
<v Speaker 4>So Thomas Pink started manufacturing in London in the UK

998
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 4>by importing fabric from China and Japan, and they started

999
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 4>to do it, but it wasn't enough, the margins weren't

1000
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 4>good enough, et cetera, et cetera. Eventually, Thomas Pink made

1001
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 4>all the shirts in Asia. Nobody cared. They loved the fashion,

1002
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 4>they love what it looked like. But here was the key,

1003
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 4>and here's our business in a nutshell quality with no surprises.

1004
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.119
<v Speaker 4>I have a surprise for you, though, do you know?

1005
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 4>I want you to guess. Do you know twenty years ago,

1006
00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 4>who had the highest quality standards of any one in

1007
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 4>the world in their retail store?

1008
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Take a guest, I don't know.

1009
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 4>Take a guess who'd you think as the highest quality

1010
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.360
<v Speaker 4>in any store you could ever imagine.

1011
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Twenty years ago in the fashion apparel space, Yeah, h

1012
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Macy's j C.

1013
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Penny. J C.

1014
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 4>Penny was a national chain. They had the highest and

1015
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 4>rigorous quality controls standards of anyone in the country. They

1016
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:32.079
<v Speaker 4>had more people in Asia examining your products being made

1017
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 4>than you had yourself. They set the standard, They told

1018
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.480
<v Speaker 4>us what we had to do. They forced us to

1019
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:42.239
<v Speaker 4>be better. I got another surprise for you. Of all

1020
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 4>the countries in the world, who makes the best products?

1021
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean, best, best quality, most attention to detail, Italy, China,

1022
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 4>really China. Every country in the world, every company in

1023
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.800
<v Speaker 4>the world went into China, who was backward at the time,

1024
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 4>who didn't know how to make products for export. They

1025
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.199
<v Speaker 4>knew how to make products for their own country. They

1026
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 4>didn't know how the standards of the world were. So

1027
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 4>we went in. We taught them everything. What do you

1028
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 4>think Apple did when it came to iPhones. Do you

1029
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.360
<v Speaker 4>think if China didn't make the best quality, Apple would

1030
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 4>be making all their iPhones or most of them there.

1031
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 4>China's quality is unbelievable. As I said before, they don't

1032
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.639
<v Speaker 4>necessarily have the lowest price, but they do have one

1033
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:33.840
<v Speaker 4>of the greatest qualities in the world. And why what

1034
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.239
<v Speaker 4>I said we need to do. We need to bring

1035
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 4>phone making smartphones back to the United States because it's

1036
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.880
<v Speaker 4>highly skilled labor. You could afford to pay more to

1037
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.920
<v Speaker 4>make them. If you're selling iPhones for thirteen hundred dollars

1038
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 4>when it costs twenty dollars to make Believe me, you

1039
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 4>can pay people so these things and more. You know

1040
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Speaker 4>what kind of buttons you use, how it's sewn, Is

1041
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:58.440
<v Speaker 4>this fabric strong? And if you ever wear a shirt

1042
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.920
<v Speaker 4>and you bend your arm in a you tear it

1043
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.159
<v Speaker 4>in the elbow. Yes, that's because whoever made that shirt

1044
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 4>doesn't understand bert strength. There's an technicality and a machine

1045
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.719
<v Speaker 4>that measures the burst strength of a fabric bu rst.

1046
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 4>If you don't know that, you're never going to get

1047
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 4>in control. Every single color when it's manufactured needs to

1048
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 4>be finished in a certain way so the colors don't

1049
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<v Speaker 4>end up being on your couch. I have used the

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<v Speaker 4>nicest buttons, mother of pearl buttons that you need to

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<v Speaker 4>fish and wildlife, because they are from oysters or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You need approval, you need to test them. Can't be

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<v Speaker 4>destroying oysters. They're the first that break in club pressing

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<v Speaker 4>in the laundry, and the ugliest buttons are the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that you'll never break. So it's funny about buttons. Then

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<v Speaker 4>the question is iron versus non iron? You care if

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<v Speaker 4>your shirts are non iron versus irony?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean saves me time?

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<v Speaker 4>So do you buy cotton shirts that don't need to

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<v Speaker 4>be pressed or you buy shirts that have to go

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<v Speaker 4>out to be pressed?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean most of my shirts I have to be pressed.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a reason because one hundred percent cotton without a

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<v Speaker 4>permanent press finish is a better quality. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>my greatest kick is polyester. It used to be the

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<v Speaker 4>most uncomfortable product.

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<v Speaker 3>In the world.

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<v Speaker 4>At one point in time. If you were wearing polyesters

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<v Speaker 4>like wearing the devil. Everyone in the world hated it. Polyester.

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<v Speaker 4>And all these synthetic fabrics have reinvented themselves and they're

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<v Speaker 4>now seen as the most comfortable fabric, the ones that breathe,

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<v Speaker 4>the best ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Really they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in every pair of yoga pants, every golf shirt,

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<v Speaker 4>and now all of a sudden, it's the greatest quality.

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<v Speaker 3>In the world.

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<v Speaker 4>So this was an intellectual show this evening. Generally, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a business show. I've tried so hard to make

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<v Speaker 4>it a business show, but no matter what I do, Apple, Spotify,

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<v Speaker 4>the likes of them have categorized this cultural and lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 4>I left the culture and lifestyle out. Tonight was a

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<v Speaker 4>serious show about tariff's trade, quality products and the things

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<v Speaker 4>you need to think about negotiation. I am drained on

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<v Speaker 4>the whole subject of tariffs and trade, and in closing,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say it again for the tenth time, please stop

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<v Speaker 4>fighting with China in the media. You can say anything

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<v Speaker 4>you want to them. In private, with respect, treat somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>Treat others as you want them to treat you. China

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<v Speaker 4>can be reason with. They're smart, they're intellectual, they're capable,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're proud. So are We talk to them privately

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<v Speaker 4>and basically speaking, I taught you how to trade tonight,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'd love to trade you. I'll trade you good night.
