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Speaker 1: a whole book to discuss. So we are going to
Speaker 1: be getting into this crazy Stargate conspiracy brought to you
Speaker 1: by the same people who brought Da Vinci Code, not
Speaker 1: Divinci Code, Desion Revelation, and the Templar revelation, which all
Speaker 1: digested and pooped out that's how you get the Da
Speaker 1: Vinci Code by Dan Brown.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, this this is an interesting book. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's there's so much in this book. There's so there
Speaker 2: is in one paragraph. There is so much because it
Speaker 2: not only talks about you know, stranger things, Stargate and
Speaker 2: Gateway process. It goes into Templars, Draconians, first of Battalion.
Speaker 2: Hum uh, you know, the the in what it needed,
Speaker 2: the Nine Principles, the human Potential Foundation. I mean, no,
Speaker 2: it's it's a crazy book. So yeah, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So what they are positing and I guess we'll give
Speaker 1: it away. The Stargate conspiracy is that there is a
Speaker 1: underground more being created that says that the ets created
Speaker 1: the human race, and they see the planet and they
Speaker 1: are on their way back to who interject before we
Speaker 1: all kill ourselves?
Speaker 2: Right right? Yeah? Yeah. They get to their thesis on
Speaker 2: page three oh five of the book. What we call
Speaker 2: the Stargate conspiracy is the fostering of the belief that
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial gods created the human right race and presided over
Speaker 2: at civilization. Okay, so is this panspermia.
Speaker 1: Yes, And what they're going for is to argue that
Speaker 1: Christianity is essentially an offshoot of the Osiris isis Horus myths,
Speaker 1: and our culture they're trying to explain is actually Egypto Christian.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of Zeitgei's stuff in here they're
Speaker 1: talking about. Obviously, they did some books on the templars,
Speaker 1: so there's templar stuff in here. There's pyramid texts, hermetic writings,
Speaker 1: and they talk about the New egypt writers Wallace Budge
Speaker 1: and their controversial ideas about a long dead civilization from Mars.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna be hearing a lot about Mars in
Speaker 1: the coming years, because that is the target for the
Speaker 1: technocraty right.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they mentioned how, I mean, the Crowley is
Speaker 2: peppered throughout this thing, and so when they get to
Speaker 2: how they make an interesting point towards the end of
Speaker 2: the book, especially when they start talking about the eon
Speaker 2: of you know, the of Horace. We've heard about a
Speaker 2: million times, but that the the on of Horus is
Speaker 2: the as the star child, right is. It's it's interesting
Speaker 2: because Crowley's whole one of his whole points was that
Speaker 2: he would usher in this you know, era of crowleyanity.
Speaker 2: And I remember in the nineties I thought that was
Speaker 2: ridicul you know, I thought that was ridiculous, you know
Speaker 2: is you know, you see the guy on the Sergeant
Speaker 2: Pepper and you know I knew him through music and
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And then in the two thousands watching
Speaker 2: documentaries and reading books and stuff about him, and then
Speaker 2: as we've gone fully into the twenty first century, it's
Speaker 2: like it it it actually he had some he had
Speaker 2: he had a point, and how influential he was with
Speaker 2: all of these creeps and people. You know that the
Speaker 2: age of If the age of Horace as the as
Speaker 2: the moon Child star child era is related to a child,
Speaker 2: then it's both. Uh, it's both a time of like
Speaker 2: Boomer Woodstock, innocence, but also volatile like a child can
Speaker 2: be unpredictable, and especially in the last five years, like
Speaker 2: we've really seen this stuff kind of ramp up. And
Speaker 2: I think then they associate Mars with with Horace. I know,
Speaker 2: Saturn is one of the big you know, Saturn is set.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's just very it's just very interesting.
Speaker 1: So the prologue actually goes into the nine Gods of Egypt,
Speaker 1: and we talk about number nine because it's very important
Speaker 1: to occultist of the Left hand Path and of Satanists
Speaker 1: because it's a very selfish number in the way that
Speaker 1: it divides always back into itself. And also the you know,
Speaker 1: the nine Egyptian gods, which are known as the Eniads,
Speaker 1: so they are the nine and one they call them.
Speaker 1: They think that they used to live at Heliopus, but
Speaker 1: they were withdrew to another dimension when they were conquered
Speaker 1: by Christianity. So they are going off of the pyramid
Speaker 1: text here and which are the hieroglyphic inscriptions found on
Speaker 1: the inside walls of seven pyramids. And one of the
Speaker 1: central stories of this is the story of Osiris, and
Speaker 1: that's where we get so many of the architecture of Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Obviously that is Osiris. X is a symbol
Speaker 1: of Osiris in mystery schools. So if you put your
Speaker 1: bookans like this, rights, maybe if I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: jumping up and down trying to make your body look
Speaker 1: like an X is part of that. Uh, but it's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, X always no X never ever marks the spot,
Speaker 2: he says. I think of that picture of you know,
Speaker 2: Crowley has those poses. One is the magician Taro and
Speaker 2: then the other is where he's in his full regalia,
Speaker 2: you know, in the in the pose.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, this features the story of a
Speaker 1: Cyrus is sent to heaven where he is transformed into
Speaker 1: a star. And there's more crole anity right there. Every
Speaker 1: man and woman is a star if you are on
Speaker 1: this path of Osiris, right, and then he is reincarnated
Speaker 1: as his own successor in the form of Horus. So
Speaker 1: they are giving us an overview here of you know,
Speaker 1: the Egyptian and creation myths and reincarnation and the big bang.
Speaker 1: Actually did you read that part?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I got that part, and what I thought was wild?
Speaker 2: Is that A little while ago I forget what I
Speaker 2: was covering on my channel. But during the day, like
Speaker 2: I went on MSN News for the first time in
Speaker 2: like years, I just cause it's on the computer. So
Speaker 2: I accidentally clicked the button for the news to you know,
Speaker 2: a little tab to pull up. And I was amazed
Speaker 2: at how much of it, I mean, it's almost satirical.
Speaker 2: How much of it is star is star related. All
Speaker 2: of it is stars in space travel, and it's a
Speaker 2: lot of its clickbait, you know. It's it's it's about
Speaker 2: like we found you'll never believe what we found in
Speaker 2: the wreckage on Mars. It's it's an extra terrestrial object.
Speaker 2: And then you click on the thing and then it
Speaker 2: talks about, well, it's extraterrestrial because it came from Earth, right,
Speaker 2: so it's on Mars, so it's from you know, so
Speaker 2: I tricked you. But one of the things that recently was, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I was covering interstellar. You know, I remember an interstellar
Speaker 2: They've got to go and find the wormhole, like, which
Speaker 2: is off of Jupiter. Yeah, and so they there was
Speaker 2: a story about that they found what looks to be
Speaker 2: an anomaly in space like a worm This could possibly
Speaker 2: be a wormhole and now everything you see because of
Speaker 2: all the UAP stuff that's coming out, you've been watching
Speaker 2: any the hearings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so they actually said that the Aliens live
Speaker 1: in the ocean. Yeah, so that ties in with what
Speaker 1: we're talking about about the aquatic beings that influenced the
Speaker 1: Dogon tribe. And uh, Dagon is in the Bible and Ovan's.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, is Dagon in Revelation and began mentioned the
Speaker 2: Revelation I'm not sure, I think because it talks about
Speaker 2: the Yeah, because it talks about some of the beasts
Speaker 2: of the Abyss and it would make sense if it's
Speaker 2: abyssle that it would be oceanic. And then that that's
Speaker 2: sort of what the movie The Abyss mm hmm had
Speaker 2: in it was the water spirits.
Speaker 1: So to the Egyptians, the god Atum huh he well,
Speaker 1: they say that he actually created the world by I
Speaker 1: don't even say this on YouTube, rapping the world into existence.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, this is where they get the idea
Speaker 1: of the Big Bang. So Atum's climax was the panspermia
Speaker 1: that seated the entire universe. And they actually think of
Speaker 1: him as a androgynist god because his pollosh represents the
Speaker 1: male principle and his hand was the female principle. Okay,
Speaker 1: all you nub lovers are going to love this, because
Speaker 1: the sacred hill of Atum is the nub and the
Speaker 1: pyramid and all of that.
Speaker 2: So he this gooner yub nubbed the world into existence
Speaker 2: right with his giggy ghackers. Okay, he got.
Speaker 1: His nickelodeon slim all over and we came to be yes.
Speaker 1: So they're literally describing, you know, a big bang, and
Speaker 1: they use the word singularity, which is interesting because this
Speaker 1: is something that we are supposed to be coming back
Speaker 1: into being in this singularity right.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, this is it, says on page eight. This
Speaker 2: is also why Horace obviously everything is sort of obvious
Speaker 2: in the book. This is why Horace, as the lord
Speaker 2: of this world, is also associated with and sometimes personified
Speaker 2: as the Sun. The daily birth of the Sun is
Speaker 2: a microcosm as the original creative explosion that gave birth
Speaker 2: to the universe, and it's also associated with the autum,
Speaker 2: and that is in so much of the Pyramid text Already,
Speaker 2: there's so much thrown into the book. What's crazy about
Speaker 2: this is that for me, a lot of this is
Speaker 2: like reading a foreign language I think once you're you're
Speaker 2: you know, once you're fully introduced to these kinds of things,
Speaker 2: that over years you still feel like you're reading hieroglyphics
Speaker 2: when you when you read about this stuff, because there's
Speaker 2: so many far there's so much sort of foreign terminology
Speaker 2: thrown into it, with so much low This is like
Speaker 2: what Wikipedia is made of, right clicking on one thing
Speaker 2: and then go and And it's also funny how the
Speaker 2: book continuously talks about their websites, and you can visit
Speaker 2: the websites and they give them in the book like
Speaker 2: before they list out uh ww, you know, throughout the
Speaker 2: book and go to this. They say, go to this website,
Speaker 2: and it's clearly written before the the This took on
Speaker 2: what Wikipedia is. It's just funny how how it's kind
Speaker 2: of come to me. On page ten, I wrote down panspermia.
Speaker 2: It looks increasingly as if life originating in deep space
Speaker 2: and was then seated on the planets, probably by comets. Then,
Speaker 2: even in its most primitive primitive form, is probably found
Speaker 2: everywhere throughout the universe. As lou Alama Mandala says, I
Speaker 2: begin to really believe that life is a cosmic imperative. Oh, thanks, Lou,
Speaker 2: you would know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I think it's interesting that Egypt is
Speaker 1: a type of civilization against christ Historically, you've got Babylon,
Speaker 1: you've got Egypt, you've got Rome. So these are examples
Speaker 1: of a civilization that is Antichrist, right. So just it's
Speaker 1: very fitting that all of the new twentieth century Satanists
Speaker 1: are going to be hearkening back to Egyptian magic to
Speaker 1: counter Christianity, right, and they're calling this an assault on
Speaker 1: the collective free will of the West. So the authors
Speaker 1: of this book are not really in favor of the findings,
Speaker 1: well because they figured out that it's all tied into
Speaker 1: mind control, military technology, weapons, population control, like all of
Speaker 1: the things that we already talk about.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they I did. One of when the book
Speaker 2: for me started to get interesting was and the book
Speaker 2: really does get way more interesting in the last like
Speaker 2: probably in the last quarter of the book, it really
Speaker 2: sort of starts to tie together. You have to make
Speaker 2: your way through a lot of this, Like if you
Speaker 2: just if you're out there and you just picked up
Speaker 2: the book, you really have to make your way through
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff before you start to tie things
Speaker 2: together and to get into the to the contemporary era.
Speaker 2: But one of the things I liked was that at
Speaker 2: one point one of the authors says that, you know,
Speaker 2: the common conception of, for example, the Pyramids and the
Speaker 2: Belt of Orian, you know, is that the pyramids are
Speaker 2: lined up with the Belt of Orion, and then you
Speaker 2: have these these pyramids throughout the world and they're all
Speaker 2: in the same latitude and all this stuff. But then
Speaker 2: they say it's actually not true. And I thought this
Speaker 2: was cool because because the pyramids are lined up in
Speaker 2: an exact line, they're linear, but the Belt of Orion
Speaker 2: is lined up with with two stars and then the
Speaker 2: third is slightly off kilter. It's not in a perfect line, right,
Speaker 2: So I thought that that was I thought that was
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. I saw that as a kind of healthy
Speaker 2: skepticism in the book, and I, you know, I guess
Speaker 2: I kind of appreciated that. But the problem is that
Speaker 2: I've I've I'll just say I have two problems with
Speaker 2: with this, and things like things like ancient aliens are
Speaker 2: funny to me because they're always posed, they always pose
Speaker 2: these questions could it be that? And the question could
Speaker 2: it be that? Yeah, yeah, is it is it possible
Speaker 2: that the Pleadeans were trying to inhibit makeup wearing amongst
Speaker 2: the and You're like, okay, I thought we were talking
Speaker 2: about the stones. Yeah. And also that actually Sam Hyde
Speaker 2: made a great point with the with the Pyramids, which
Speaker 2: was that there's still this is soaked into the common
Speaker 2: con into the kind of sort of zeitgeist thinking about
Speaker 2: Egypt and the pyramids so much that I think the
Speaker 2: average person assumes that the pyramids were a a super
Speaker 2: primordial construction where they are so difficult to make. How
Speaker 2: did they get the stones? How did they laser cut them?
Speaker 2: In all this stuff? And I was listening to Sam
Speaker 2: Hotter recently and he was like, well, they're not laser cut,
Speaker 2: they're rough cut. And also the pyramid is the easiest
Speaker 2: thing to make. You mark off a square and then
Speaker 2: you just keep putting stones upwards, right, So it's like
Speaker 2: building a sand castle for a kid. So I think
Speaker 2: that I think he has a point there that we
Speaker 2: we they're obviously, I mean, obviously, the the the Great
Speaker 2: Pyramid of Giza is one of the you know, seven
Speaker 2: ancient wonders of the world. The Sphinx is is insane,
Speaker 2: The the statue of Ramsay's or Osi Mandias was insane.
Speaker 2: I mean, these things are amazing, and they are they
Speaker 2: are huge, and the pyramids were the tallest man made
Speaker 2: structures until like the Woolworth Building or something. It's in
Speaker 2: the twentieth century, which is crazy to think about that
Speaker 2: they that they're that old. But it's not that. It's
Speaker 2: not necessarily that the Nephelim came and you know, we're
Speaker 2: walking amongst humans is eighty feet tall and we're building pyramids,
Speaker 2: and that therefore people, you know, came from stars in space.
Speaker 2: It's just that they had it. They had an advanced
Speaker 2: civilization and of course great Exodus.
Speaker 1: Right, So there's two schools of thought about this. In
Speaker 1: the beginning of the book, there is the ancient Aliens theory, right,
Speaker 1: people from Mars or somewhere else came down and they
Speaker 1: meddled with the people here and that's where the pyramids
Speaker 1: came from. And then the other kind of tangent theory
Speaker 1: is that it was the Atlanteans, who were already here
Speaker 1: indigenous to Earth, of great technological civilization that fell and
Speaker 1: then they had to kind of start over in Egypt.
Speaker 1: But then they lost things along the way, and that's
Speaker 1: why technology gets less and less impressive as the years
Speaker 1: go on. So these are the two kind of warring
Speaker 1: factions that they're talking about in the book. You know,
Speaker 1: if you've got the you know, von Dinakin versus Hancock,
Speaker 1: the cherries of the Gods versus the Fingerprints of the Gods. Right,
Speaker 1: but they both agree about, you know, the serious mystery.
Speaker 1: So that's a huge part of this story too, the
Speaker 1: serious mystery. And like we said the quiz part, serious
Speaker 1: is actually a trinary star, A, B, and C. And
Speaker 1: that they were all accounted for by the dogon who
Speaker 1: were the keepers of the legend of the Nomo, the amphibious,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, who they say were the behind the development
Speaker 1: of civilization. And you already said Congress just told us
Speaker 1: aliens live in the ocean.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yes, yeah, I'm looking at this. This is
Speaker 2: you're on twenty six and twenty seven here in the book,
Speaker 2: and and it's talking about po po and serious serious
Speaker 2: A series B. The star of women A von Danikin
Speaker 2: is the guy who I thought you were talking about
Speaker 2: in the in the quiz question, Oh god, the Austrian guy.
Speaker 2: And on page twenty eight, yeah, you're getting to this,
Speaker 2: Like at the top it says here. In fact, the
Speaker 2: first Christian mission in Molly was not established by American
Speaker 2: Protestants until nineteen thirty six, when the serious based religion
Speaker 2: was already deeply embedded in Dogon culture. Okay, the Dogon
Speaker 2: also believe that their ancestors were taught the arts of
Speaker 2: civilization by gods called the Nomo. That was their question,
Speaker 2: or rather demigods, because the Nomo believed to have been
Speaker 2: emissaries of one god Ama, who descended on Earth. In
Speaker 2: an arc in the remote past, the Nomo were described
Speaker 2: as water spirits there you go, who inhabited all bodies
Speaker 2: of water, from the seas to the smallest ponds. Dogon
Speaker 2: depictions of the Nomo show them to be fish, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's funny. There's a just an episode of Family Guy
Speaker 2: for the folks out there at home out there where
Speaker 2: Lois meets a meets a merman, but instead of having
Speaker 2: a mermaid tale and being a man, he's the bottom
Speaker 2: half of the man and the top is the fish.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, no, that's not what I wanted.
Speaker 1: Remember that movie Shape of Water. Yes, that was about
Speaker 1: sexy times with fish people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Giermo del Toro.
Speaker 1: Yea so now we're getting jiggy with the aliens, which
Speaker 1: me and Isaac was covering for the past couple and
Speaker 1: this is all going to go back to Atlantis and
Speaker 1: Edgar Casey. And like you said, they question is the
Speaker 1: Orion mystery credible? You know, the theory that they're aligned
Speaker 1: to Orion.
Speaker 2: But what.
Speaker 1: Actually caught the attention of the experts, the government, these
Speaker 1: you know occult orders CIA was the the serious mystery.
Speaker 1: So CIA Freemasons are all like geeking out over this
Speaker 1: serious mystery book. And that's when you get the Tales
Speaker 1: of the Dogon and the Nomo and all of that.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's kind of crazy to me because with
Speaker 2: the with the intelligence agencies freaking out over this stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean just on a practical level, you can see
Speaker 2: them freaking out about things that deal with, for instance,
Speaker 2: chemicals later on, or with like shamanistic traditions because there's
Speaker 2: an element of mind control involved, and they're looking for
Speaker 2: a true theorem and mk ultra. But as far as
Speaker 2: archaeological or or even like pseudo archaeological things, it's kind
Speaker 2: of crazy that to see to see the long sort
Speaker 2: of the long arc of what they how they have
Speaker 2: an interest in this stuff. But I guess, like you
Speaker 2: were saying, they make a point. The authors of this
Speaker 2: book make a point of explaining that if there's something
Speaker 2: that deals with my with anything with mind control or
Speaker 2: with some sort of narrative that's being pushed, then if anything,
Speaker 2: there's something to be learned from that with intelligence, through
Speaker 2: just through data, just how people perceive truth as it's
Speaker 2: told to them and how far they're willing to take it.
Speaker 2: It's like with the Pokemon revelations recently, which is not
Speaker 2: like a revelation I think to probably anybody that would
Speaker 2: be here. I mean, you create an app and you
Speaker 2: have people playing a game and it seems like completely
Speaker 2: crazy and it's sort of infantile. And I'm sure that's
Speaker 2: fun for people that play whatever, you know, but that
Speaker 2: there's a sort of a regression involved. But then, of
Speaker 2: course it's just data mining. It's just trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: replicate patterns in people and how they make choices with things,
Speaker 2: and so I sort of see the point with that,
Speaker 2: but it is pretty far to go, of course. I mean,
Speaker 2: you and Jay have both done a lot of talk
Speaker 2: about the ties with with like archaeology, I mean, like
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones is the best known sort of cultural example
Speaker 2: of that. You know, he's Oss and you have people
Speaker 2: going to foreign countries and embedding themselves with natives and
Speaker 2: talking to people who are going to fund them. So
Speaker 2: it's natural that that would be something that the intelligence
Speaker 2: could use. But it gets wild when it actually goes
Speaker 2: into the occults. And of course we you know through
Speaker 2: there's that Richard Spence book Agent six sixty six with Crowley.
Speaker 2: I mean that talks about that, you know, with Crowley,
Speaker 2: you know, the sort of omerica built into secret societies
Speaker 2: mixed in with intelligence. The two sort of work hand
Speaker 2: in hand because that would be natural for that, but
Speaker 2: it's still sort of hard to comprehend I think with
Speaker 2: some of this.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought up Indiana Jones, because yeah,
Speaker 1: the government is totally interested in occult things and weird stuff.
Speaker 1: In Desert Storm, they were looking for the tomb of
Speaker 1: Gilgamesh and just all kinds of things that you would
Speaker 1: think are wack adoodle action adventure movie stuff, but they
Speaker 1: are on.
Speaker 2: It, right, Yeah, did they get that is the best
Speaker 2: known example of that. Himmler and the Search for the
Speaker 2: Holy Grail and the Lance of laungeness in World War Two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good example.
Speaker 2: Yeah, expeditions to Tibet and all that.
Speaker 1: So one of the characters in this book that you
Speaker 1: probably heard of is Edgar Casey. So he was as
Speaker 1: the Sleeping Prophet. Supposedly he was an illiterate guy who
Speaker 1: would go into trances and tell the future and tell
Speaker 1: the past and all of these stuff, and they built
Speaker 1: this whole cult around him. That is now in Virginia Beach.
Speaker 1: I've actually been there and they have like a labyrinth
Speaker 1: that you can walk outside that is two dolphins that
Speaker 1: you get in the middle. You're actually like on dolphin mhm.
Speaker 2: Is that? Uh, well, Virginia Beaches, Neptwon is the Neptunes, right,
Speaker 2: It's Neptune Neptune City. So I suppose that's why it's,
Speaker 2: you know, the dolphins. So there's a lot of I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this is where we get a
Speaker 1: lot of our Atlantis lore is from Edgar Casey. And
Speaker 1: uh he's saying that he's on the team Atlantis settled Egypt.
Speaker 1: And then there is a missing artifact, which we'll talk
Speaker 1: about in a second. It's one of the questions that
Speaker 1: everybody is searching for great.
Speaker 2: I love as ever. I love when people say as
Speaker 2: a and then fill in the blank as a Virginian.
Speaker 2: I find it interesting and it's not even ironic, it's
Speaker 2: just obvious, you know, how much of so much of
Speaker 2: this stuff comes back to Virginia Mount Weather. There's a
Speaker 2: Monroe Institute mentioned in this with Stubble bind Langley. Of
Speaker 2: course Pentagon are both in Virginia, and then and uh
Speaker 2: and Virginia Beach is the largest, you know, naval base
Speaker 2: in the world. The Seals are based there. So I
Speaker 2: just I just find it so interesting. Do you remember
Speaker 2: when the I know part of this is based on,
Speaker 2: you know, Jimmy Carter making that revelation about with Stargate
Speaker 2: project about using psychics, you know, to find the lost guy.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't gonna say, do you remember when that
Speaker 2: journalist inadvertently uncovered the secret White House in Virginia? It
Speaker 2: was like in the in the eighties. Yeah, he uh,
Speaker 2: there was a guy who was staying at the Greenbrier.
Speaker 2: The Greenbrier is a famous hotel in the mountains in Virginia.
Speaker 2: It's where some people I know, like Ghost State, they
Speaker 2: always holiday there. It's really just a really nice old hotel.
Speaker 2: And then the guy wrote an article and then inadvertently
Speaker 2: he revealed that there were secret doors in the hotel,
Speaker 2: and then they had to shut the thing down because
Speaker 2: the Green Brier. I've stayed that the Green Briar, the
Speaker 2: Greenbrier has like if you go into where the ballroom
Speaker 2: would be or where the ballroom is, you notice that
Speaker 2: they're like hinges. And they had to open the doors
Speaker 2: and it was blast doors and you go in and
Speaker 2: there's an entire secret that's where the White House would
Speaker 2: be in case of a nuclear attack. They all there
Speaker 2: are tunnels going into the Green Briar and it's all underground.
Speaker 2: And then they found that people are always wondering like
Speaker 2: why are these like weird smokestack looking things in the
Speaker 2: woods in the middle of nowhere, And it was like, well,
Speaker 2: that's the air ventilation system for the underground thing. It's huge.
Speaker 2: It fits like forty thousand people underground.
Speaker 1: WHOA. So that's where the government will go so they
Speaker 1: can continue of government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, continuity of government. They have a white House press room,
Speaker 2: they've got a hospital, they've got barracks, they've got bunks
Speaker 2: and supplies or they did for everyone in the in
Speaker 2: the government. They've got another Supreme Court there or whatever.
Speaker 2: And it's all it's not far from DC. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like Camp David is to to d C. It's
Speaker 2: not far, but it's in the mountains and I guess
Speaker 2: protected against a nuclear radiation or a nuclear wind because
Speaker 2: of the mountains and the way that the wind pattern
Speaker 2: works there. And it was underground, but they had to
Speaker 2: aband it's still all there, but they had to abandon
Speaker 2: it as a legitimate place where they would go.
Speaker 1: Well, Virginia is, you know, the home of Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: And book talks about part of the Stargate conspiracy actually
Speaker 1: is free Masonic Americanism. So they are saying when they
Speaker 1: find this magic artifact that they've all been searching for
Speaker 1: this whole time, it says, with the changes that will
Speaker 1: be wrought true Americanism, the universal thought that is expressed
Speaker 1: and manifested in the Brotherhood of Man as in the
Speaker 1: Masonic Order, will be the eventual rule in the settlement
Speaker 1: affairs in the world. So several places in this book
Speaker 1: people are talking and they use the words new world
Speaker 1: order or new order of the ages.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, your favorite person just had that right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this tw who else is included in the Rosicrucians,
Speaker 1: I said, let's quote them on page seventy.
Speaker 2: What did I say?
Speaker 1: Why did I want to do that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And this all goes back into the secret destiny of America. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the New Atlantis by Francis Bacon, and the Invisible College,
Speaker 1: the Great White Brotherhood, Manly Pehole, all of that stuff
Speaker 1: is wrapped up in this free Masonic revival they talk about.
Speaker 1: And they said the immigrants from Atlantis were people governed
Speaker 1: by the laws of Cosmic Masonry, and those who land
Speaker 1: into Egypt build centers of Masonic initiation from which the
Speaker 1: country was administered. And the Rosicrucians actually trace their more
Speaker 1: back to Octon. I had this tiny little book once
Speaker 1: and it was called Onto the Ai Grant, and it
Speaker 1: was I can't remember that. Maybe it's written anonymously or
Speaker 1: by a couple of initiates or something, but just this
Speaker 1: tiny little book telling you the beginning of roj re Cruscion.
Speaker 1: History starts with acton and efforteet.
Speaker 2: The I was looking at Let's see, you were mentioning
Speaker 2: number nine and the nine, the nine principles, the what
Speaker 2: do you call it, the ad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Here here's what I was mentioning earlier on page forty eight,
Speaker 2: with the diagram of the Great Pyramid, right, and of
Speaker 2: the pyramids and the belt of Oryan. You were just
Speaker 2: talking about, let's see Constellation Draco, the Dragon page page
Speaker 2: fifty nine. See. He also said that nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 2: marks the beginning of the time of preparation for the
Speaker 2: coming of the Master of the World. Uh. Aleister Crowley's
Speaker 2: coming in hot with his Yeah, and the Brotherhood of
Speaker 2: Man Masonic Order. Let's see a lot of this deals
Speaker 2: with the like the rise of fascism, yes, making They
Speaker 2: continuously mentioned the Spanish Civil Wars, you know, and of
Speaker 2: course the various groups in World War Two, and the
Speaker 2: rise of Italian totalitarianism. You just mentioned the uh, the
Speaker 2: Association for Research for Enlightenment, Virginia Beach. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to catch up here a little bit. There
Speaker 2: was something else in here, Herodotus, Fall of the Hall
Speaker 2: of Records A. C. Randall Stevens. Gosh, there's so there's
Speaker 2: so much the cosmic Masonry. Oh yeah, they keep talking
Speaker 2: about the dawn of the New Millennium and Jean Michel
Speaker 2: Jarre playing the playing his synth on y two K
Speaker 2: like laser lighting an eye of Horus on the Great Pyramid,
Speaker 2: which they just they're They're like, I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you've got all of these authors coming
Speaker 1: out about Egypt and Mars. You've got serious mystery orian
Speaker 1: signed the Seal, Fingerprints of the Gods, having a mirror
Speaker 1: keeper of Genesis, Mars mystery. And this is all going
Speaker 1: to influence the New Age and the UN and everything
Speaker 1: that we're seeing right now. Me and Courtney have done
Speaker 1: two or three shows about the wacky goings on at
Speaker 1: the UN trying to channel this stuff. And so it's
Speaker 1: not about authors kind of anymore. And now it's about influencers.
Speaker 1: So they're not really focusing on people writing a lot
Speaker 1: of books. They're focusing on getting personalities on TikTok, on YouTube,
Speaker 1: on x to promulgate these ideas.
Speaker 2: Would you agree, Yeah, yeah, because it's like that guy
Speaker 2: with like the the Gold He's got a crown on
Speaker 2: and he's got like a pyramid on his forehead and
Speaker 2: he's like, listen, if you have problems with your hips,
Speaker 2: just put this toe pass right here, and and your
Speaker 2: binaural beats will allow you to ascend with Larry Hoagland.
Speaker 2: And when you when the face of Mars appears to you,
Speaker 2: that's when you know that you've transcended exact. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: of course, yes, the face, the face on Mars stuff
Speaker 2: must have just like I imagine like these people writing
Speaker 2: this book or anybody in this community, right, which sounds
Speaker 2: like a pretty fun like convention to go to honestly, yeah,
Speaker 2: because they have the Remote Viewing Association or whatever. And
Speaker 2: I think, like, man, I bet those meetings are really fun, right.
Speaker 1: They're gooky for sure. And I've been to enough conspiracy
Speaker 1: cons and alien and UFO cons and they actually mentioned
Speaker 1: in this book all of these authors.
Speaker 4: And influencers are set to task to make these conferences,
Speaker 4: to make these groups, to make these cults to you know,
Speaker 4: spread awareness of the Syrians and the Aliens.
Speaker 1: And also we kind of have this they call it
Speaker 1: millennium fever in the book, just that the waiting for
Speaker 1: the big Armageddon or the apocalypse, or the World War
Speaker 1: three Mayan Calendar twenty twelve, all of that stuff comes
Speaker 1: out of the writings.
Speaker 2: Also, well, let me ask you a question, what did
Speaker 2: you do on y t K? What did you do
Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve that night?
Speaker 1: Nothing? Because I was only like eighteen and we weren't
Speaker 1: too worried about it. We filled up our bathtub with water.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: My parents actually were kind of preppers, so they got
Speaker 1: a whole garage full of like dry apples and oats
Speaker 1: and beans. Yeah, we were eating apple chips for like
Speaker 1: ten years later.
Speaker 2: But well we were, I mean my parents, I mean
Speaker 2: we were. I mean we'd always been locked and loaded
Speaker 2: since since I was a kid. We had gas masks
Speaker 2: in the basement, we had a bunker, we had all
Speaker 2: this stuff because of you know, Reagan era and stuff.
Speaker 2: And when I was a kid, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: bringing on, this is gonna be sweet. You know, I
Speaker 2: can be a post apocalyptic dystopian warrior as a like
Speaker 2: six year old. But when y TWOK happened, I thought
Speaker 2: it was you know, I thought it was really i'll
Speaker 2: say lame, that's the word I'll say here to be safe.
Speaker 1: But nothing burner Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then but then that like leading up to it,
Speaker 2: that week, I started to really think, like, you know,
Speaker 2: it would be ironic if something did happen if the
Speaker 2: if the numbers set back to zero and we went
Speaker 2: into a nuclear work because the Cold War was over.
Speaker 2: And so the day of not of I was gonna
Speaker 2: say big nine, the day of Y two K, I
Speaker 2: was I was. I started to get pretty concerned. And
Speaker 2: then and I went to church, thinking like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: if this is gonna be, if it's gonna happen, you know,
Speaker 2: it's the best place to be. And then and then
Speaker 2: then I went to a party and I went to
Speaker 2: like the craziest party I've ever been to, and then
Speaker 2: nothing happened, and then it was fine, that's the end
Speaker 2: of my stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are positing in this book that there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some kind of huge upheaval. And it wasn't y
Speaker 1: two K, and it wasn't twenty twelve, but surely we
Speaker 1: have to have some bomb drop info bomb And they're
Speaker 1: saying when all of these things are revealed, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a great unveiling.
Speaker 2: Is that going to be the twenty fifty fake alien invasion?
Speaker 1: Well I had my own ideas about that. I think
Speaker 1: people are going to start identifying as aliens, uh huh,
Speaker 1: And that's going to be part of the Invasion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they tried this with the face on Mars.
Speaker 2: That was certainly a big I mean they must have
Speaker 2: been freaking out about that because that seemed you know,
Speaker 2: because buzz Aldron and stuff, and then the and then
Speaker 2: buzz Aldroon punching the dude, and then when he went
Speaker 2: on Alex and then talking about you know, when the
Speaker 2: little girl asked him the question that what's Mars like
Speaker 2: and he was like, I don't know if you'd been
Speaker 2: if I'd ever been there, it would have been crazy.
Speaker 2: But there's definitely pyramids. You know. That stuff must have
Speaker 2: freaked him out. And then the movie even mentions how
Speaker 2: they made you know that it kind of alludes to
Speaker 2: all the movies being made about this stuff, like Deep Impact.
Speaker 2: It mentions Deep Impact on eighty three, but I don't
Speaker 2: think they mean it in terms of the film Deep Impact.
Speaker 2: But that came out and that's one of the movies
Speaker 2: that predicted made the way for Obama as president. Right.
Speaker 2: That was the Morgan Freeman as President movie where they
Speaker 2: were again they were using SETI to see the that
Speaker 2: was actually it was actually Elijah Wood was in Richmond
Speaker 2: in the movie and sees the comet or whatever coming
Speaker 2: towards Earth, and it predicts that. And then there was
Speaker 2: they're all the disaster movies right in the nineties that
Speaker 2: it sort of predicts that, Oh, these are the.
Speaker 1: Type of events that the aliens are supposed to be
Speaker 1: saving us from, right, They're going to come in, swoop
Speaker 1: in at the last minute. They said that a lot
Speaker 1: of the writings about the aliens have an increasingly messianic tone,
Speaker 1: and they talk about this thing called Project Equinox two thousand.
Speaker 1: So Project Equinox was based around a group of twelve
Speaker 1: authors who they referred to as Magic Twelve. The membership
Speaker 1: of this group was not fixed at the time of writing,
Speaker 1: but it originally included Graham Hancock, John Anthony West, Andrew Collins,
Speaker 1: Robert Temple, Colin Wilson, Michael Baigent, Christopher Knight, Robert Lomas.
Speaker 1: So all of these new authors are key to understanding
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Oh yeah, and their principal objective
Speaker 1: is to perform a global ritual symbolizing the return of
Speaker 1: the magical hermetic tradition of Egypt.
Speaker 2: So a great working. Yes, they always do this, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's always that the secret Chiefs come back to
Speaker 2: save us from ourselves because we can't take care of
Speaker 2: of Mother Gaya or whatever. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2: How I'm sorry, gosh, I can't breathe. There's so much
Speaker 2: dust in here. I've had the windows open because it's
Speaker 2: been cold and trying to and then the dust flies
Speaker 2: in here. So anyway, the I think it's funny. How
Speaker 2: in the movie Stargate, this sort of opposite happens. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not that the Secret Chiefs aren't trying to save
Speaker 2: us from ourselves. We find out in the movie Stargate
Speaker 2: that actually raw Right, who seeded the planet now wants
Speaker 2: to destroy it because he tries to send the Kurt
Speaker 2: Russell nuke back to Earth.
Speaker 1: Right, I just put that on today when I'm writing
Speaker 1: these outs. There is a round based on Stargate the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't later, So do round two basically to
Speaker 1: High Street at Giza. Are you ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Question one and this is for five chances at spin
Speaker 1: on the board. Who is the controversial head of the
Speaker 1: Supreme Council of Antiquities in Egypt who claims to have
Speaker 1: uncovered the shaft of Osiris in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2: Is that is that Mohammad Fayed no.
Speaker 1: Hawath?
Speaker 2: Oh that did? Yeah? Yes, okay, all right, I remember
Speaker 2: that guy because he sounds like I was.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, Zahi hawas.
Speaker 2: The demon that Crowley meets.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Second, I'm not doing too well. People.
Speaker 1: Who was the fundamental Christian Zionist who led simultaneous psychic
Speaker 1: investigations for Sri at Giza and the Temple Mount.
Speaker 2: Damn? Uh? I don't know, Mark, Mark Lehmer. I don't
Speaker 2: know who is doctor d Open. Oh god, damn it,
Speaker 2: there's there's there's too much. Yes, yes, doctor Dolphin, of course.
Speaker 1: Okay. Next question, what did Edgar Casey's father do for
Speaker 1: a living?
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, I don't know. Uh um, hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on um? He sold insurance? Yes, yes, yes, nice one, alright.
Speaker 1: Insurance salesman to the Freemasons.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Sweet. Okay, we're still alive, barely.
Speaker 1: Next question, what cosmic artifact is said to be still
Speaker 1: hidden in the use of Plateau?
Speaker 2: Uh? Not the line, Paul, it's the step the staff
Speaker 2: of No. No, I don't know what is it?
Speaker 1: The Hall of records?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what they're looking for. Yeah, yeah, that's uh,
Speaker 2: let's see, m I just went through that. Who was
Speaker 2: Who was it? Who's the guy who wrote The Pale Horse,
Speaker 2: William Cooper? Is he the one that said that the
Speaker 2: pyramid because most most people think of the pyramid as
Speaker 2: being a as holding the sarcophagus of a you know,
Speaker 2: one of the pharaohs, but it's none of them have that,
Speaker 2: even though there's a king's chambers. Is he the one
Speaker 2: that said that the pyramid is a is a physical
Speaker 2: allegory for the process of initiation, all the religious artifacts
Speaker 2: of like you go when you spend the night you
Speaker 2: receive the lines Paul handshake? Do you go into the underworld?
Speaker 1: You haven't won yet? Oh great, Okay, you're for the
Speaker 1: last question.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, there's another one. Okay, think.
Speaker 1: Where did Robert Bell and Graham Hancock pinpoint as the
Speaker 1: location of one of the secret chambers?
Speaker 2: Dude, I don't know. I don't know where where. Okay, listen,
Speaker 2: somebody who's gonna be watching this and they're gonna go, duh,
Speaker 2: how do you not know that? Exposed? Look? Man, I'm
Speaker 2: just a simple guy. Okay. I've been eating crayons and
Speaker 2: toothpaste all day. I'm trying to learn how to read
Speaker 2: this book. I don't remember Neff Neffer titties romp Okay, okay, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a whammy bar again.
Speaker 1: All right, okay, big.
Speaker 2: Bucks whammy Okay.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you are going to Hesa to sleep in
Speaker 1: the sphinx with no food or water or clothing, trapped
Speaker 1: in a sarcophagus for three days and nights.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm neo Napoleon. Yes, yes, you.
Speaker 1: Will be meeting with Osiris and all sorts of other goolies.
Speaker 1: Are you excited?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so excit with the goolies. Yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 2: be there's gonna be goolies crawling out of toot and
Speaker 2: commons to oil it. And yeah, I'm very excited. No, Napoleon.
Speaker 2: Napoleon did that. Remember when he got to Egypt. We
Speaker 2: conquered Egypt, and I remember slept, Yeah, slept in the
Speaker 2: king chamber. And then I read it in one of
Speaker 2: the books about him that when he came out the
Speaker 2: next day. This is one of the things that made
Speaker 2: me angry about the movie, is when he came out
Speaker 2: the next day, they said what happened? And he said,
Speaker 2: and he I think he went. I think he went
Speaker 2: like this. He was like, nothing happened, and he wouldn't
Speaker 2: tell him what happened.
Speaker 1: You will be so refreshed, you'll be looking like that guy.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: Doesn't he look good and hydrated?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he's got that skincare.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm excited for you. So high Strange is at Giza.
Speaker 1: This is chapter two starget conspiracy, the search for more
Speaker 1: stuff in and around the pyramids chambers. They're looking in
Speaker 1: the rumps, they're looking in the pause, they're looking in
Speaker 1: the ground between the Sphinx and the Nile. Here we've
Speaker 1: got doctor Dolphin doing experiments at the Temple mount at
Speaker 1: the same time. So you've got are the Edgar Casey's School,
Speaker 1: You've got SRI, You've got the Shore Foundation, You've got
Speaker 1: Florida State University, You've got the Department of Defense, You've
Speaker 1: got NASA, all looking for this Hall of records, the
Speaker 1: uh Kashik records or whatever you want to call them. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: supposedly buried there. Why are all of these serious government
Speaker 1: institutions looking for Egyptian artifacts?
Speaker 2: M Yes, And then and then we get to the
Speaker 2: search for the stargate.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so they're teaming up with universities they are.
Speaker 1: They've got egg Casey on board. They've got Graham Hancock
Speaker 1: telling Art Bell in nineteen ninety six that they found
Speaker 1: nine chambers. But it's a secret. And a lot of these,
Speaker 1: like I've talked about influencers, so Coast to Coast would
Speaker 1: be one of those who are disseminating all of this weird,
Speaker 1: kooky information.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. The thing that they always do their method,
Speaker 2: especially influencers of any kind, is we've we've got the
Speaker 2: information and it'll be available January ninth. Right, We've got
Speaker 2: the thing. We've blown the lid off of the sarcophagus
Speaker 2: of the Hall of Records. But if you just like
Speaker 2: in share and SOB even though we don't you know,
Speaker 2: even though they don't have a thing to subscribe to
Speaker 2: or whatever, or in the nineties it was like, if
Speaker 2: you subscribe to our tapes, Yeah, in my letter, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in my new Yes, in my newsletter.
Speaker 1: So Art Bell and these influencers. But they they're also
Speaker 1: having a lot of conflicting theories and infighting. There's some
Speaker 1: glaring contradictions. There's they call them elaborate games. And Zachie
Speaker 1: Huas as part of this too. They even claim to found,
Speaker 1: you know, the tomb of Osyrus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 2: I think just in one one thing that comes to
Speaker 2: mind with this every time with anything occult, whether it's
Speaker 2: you know, mystery religions or you know, the the cults
Speaker 2: of Isis, or the Greek gods or pantheon, any of
Speaker 2: those things, especially with this is that number one, infighting
Speaker 2: is always promoted. I mean, it's kind of like a
Speaker 2: dictator having people infighting underneath him, because it promotes competition
Speaker 2: to see who can get to who can work the
Speaker 2: hardest for the head of the you know, the top
Speaker 2: of the pyramid. And the other is that this is
Speaker 2: so anesthetical of Christianity because the the very like JFK,
Speaker 2: the very nature of secrecy a is an athema to Americans.
Speaker 2: He says, like the the Greek, the Greek gods always
Speaker 2: come in costume and always lie about who they are
Speaker 2: and then reveal themselves later. Whereas the when when an
Speaker 2: angel appears to someone, the person always like wants to
Speaker 2: worship the angel, like the angel is going to be God.
Speaker 2: And then the angel tells them I'm not like I'm
Speaker 2: I'm the Messenger or I'm the angel and tells them
Speaker 2: the truth straight up. Everything is always truthful. It's always
Speaker 2: out in the open. The whole nature of Christianity is
Speaker 2: that you don't have to do the you don't have
Speaker 2: to sacrifice a bull anymore. You don't have to do
Speaker 2: all this stuff. You don't. You don't have to lie
Speaker 2: or be secret. It's not to be secret, it's to
Speaker 2: be open. You're supposed to be genuine and truthful. And
Speaker 2: and you can see the sort of results of the
Speaker 2: two uh in in terms of their nature. The one
Speaker 2: is about one is this stuff is always about who
Speaker 2: knows the most, kind of a gnostic process, like who
Speaker 2: knows the most and can break on through to the
Speaker 2: other side. And now I'm gonna fight with the other
Speaker 2: guy because they don't know as much as I do.
Speaker 2: But I have the secrets, I have the talus Man's
Speaker 2: and the and I can do the ritual and one
Speaker 2: day they're going to come for me on Hailbop. And
Speaker 2: Christianity is Look, everybody can do this. It's open for everybody.
Speaker 2: We want you to do this, everybody. All you have
Speaker 2: to do is just do this. You know, faith and
Speaker 2: love and that's you know, and it in its nature.
Speaker 2: That's that's it, you know. So I just think that
Speaker 2: that's what's so difficult about all this stuff. But you
Speaker 2: see with that, I mean, for one, why intelligence is
Speaker 2: so interested in it because of this this secretive the
Speaker 2: secretive sort of conduits through all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And a lot of egos to everyone wants to be
Speaker 1: the one who like discovered Osirus's shaft or crazy thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, everybody wants to be the ascended master in
Speaker 2: the Golden Dawn, you know, in this stuff.
Speaker 1: So the interesting part about this chapter two is the
Speaker 1: apocalyptic output. Like we were talking about. It says, for
Speaker 1: the first time in many thousands of years, the mass
Speaker 1: world population, we're starting to receive an inside glimpse concerning
Speaker 1: something truly powerful hidden from humankind regarding the Great Pyramid.
Speaker 1: And so they're kind of miss mixing Christian fundamentalism with
Speaker 1: a passion for ancient Egypt.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the chapter it says, if
Speaker 2: Americans are involved in ancient stargate technology, then it would
Speaker 2: be the most top secret project in the history and
Speaker 2: the number of people needing to know about it would
Speaker 2: be minimal. I mean, I kind of make a point,
Speaker 2: you know, with the sort of cellular nature of this stuff,
Speaker 2: and then it goes on the next place to talk
Speaker 2: about freemason Cia m R five, the message at the
Speaker 2: end of the world. Writing the comment in the asteroid
Speaker 2: I mentioned, I wrote psychic Spies and stranger Things on
Speaker 2: page one twelve with remote influencing because if you can
Speaker 2: have an out of body experience and read things and
Speaker 2: listen to people not in the location that it makes
Speaker 2: sense that you know, national security or whatever will like that.
Speaker 2: But it reminds me of these hearings right now. Did
Speaker 2: you see in the hearings, by the way, when not
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, who's the other one, who's the little
Speaker 2: one that's in that group, and the other congresswoman, but Bobert,
Speaker 2: did you see Bobert's response that Bobert Bobert was listening
Speaker 2: to that guy, the guy who's at the head, he's
Speaker 2: like the main guy in all the hearings, and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm the one I was ahead of the group, and
Speaker 2: I'm the one who has all the secret knowledge. He's
Speaker 2: got like you know, lapel pins with keys. And he
Speaker 2: then when he gives this title, by the way, his title,
Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't him. Maybe it was another guy. One
Speaker 2: of the other guys was like, my title was chief
Speaker 2: fax machine operator at the Institute, So I happened to know.
Speaker 2: I'm in the know about all of this, all this information.
Speaker 2: The biologics are incredible. They kept saying the word biologics.
Speaker 2: But when they got to Bobert, Barbert goes, so, what
Speaker 2: you're telling me is a bunch of nonsense, because she
Speaker 2: said the world is flat, Coronka's fake. You need to
Speaker 2: tell us about Big nine, and that's all I have
Speaker 2: to say, and then walk and then walked away. I
Speaker 2: thought it was pretty fun. The lady who's the lady
Speaker 2: who's in charge of the hearings said she used the
Speaker 2: phrase come at me, bro. No, uh, yeah she did.
Speaker 2: In the hearings she said if she was like, if
Speaker 2: you don't just provide the videotape, then there's nothing I
Speaker 2: can say about it. So come at me, bro, I've
Speaker 2: got the truth. I watched it live. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, he gets so confusing, and there's so many dis
Speaker 1: info agents and a lot of this stuff comes from
Speaker 1: channeled sources. So we'll get there in a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes when we talk about the nine, that all of
Speaker 1: this stuff going back to the beginning is from channeling ets.
Speaker 1: But even Edgar Casey he became known to high echelons
Speaker 1: and went to Washington to give information multiple times. Right,
Speaker 1: the weird kooky guy who talks about Atlantis under trance
Speaker 1: is being summoned to Washington, d C. To advise. And
Speaker 1: his dad was, you know, like we were talking about
Speaker 1: insurance salesman to the Freemasons. He was a Freemason himself.
Speaker 1: He actually traveled around, uh setting up lodges. So Edgar
Speaker 1: Casey and his father are very well versed in free
Speaker 1: Masonic Americanism and talking about a American Masonic Golden Age
Speaker 1: where the you know, the Atlantic Masonic ideas would become
Speaker 1: the governing principles of the future.
Speaker 2: I thought that, you know, I would think they could
Speaker 2: have already had that in terms of the founding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now they want to introduce the alien part
Speaker 1: because the Masons say that the Great Lodge is on serious.
Speaker 4: Right, that's why they're so into this stuff.
Speaker 1: SRI is looking for the of course records, they're using
Speaker 1: remote Beauty project Stargate.
Speaker 2: That would be great, That would be great if that
Speaker 2: were in the televised hearing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go to the Great White Lodge on
Speaker 1: Curious B And Yeah, so you got Project Stargate, the
Speaker 1: remote viewing government project that also incorporates a lot of
Speaker 1: other mystical occult influences. You've got m Ultra Project, Monarch,
Speaker 1: Project Artichoke, all these their adjacent projects.
Speaker 2: Grill Flame, Yeah, Grill Flame, Sunstreak yea.
Speaker 1: And many of the remote viewers reported encountering pyramids during
Speaker 1: their sessions.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: They talk about remote influencing. So it's not just about
Speaker 1: being able to see what other people are doing, it's
Speaker 1: about being able to beam in your thoughts into other
Speaker 1: people's minds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wonder if they encounter pyramids because there still
Speaker 2: missing crystal capstone of the pyramid is what has been
Speaker 2: totally ingrained into the mind of the remote viewer to
Speaker 2: guide them. Too serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, isn't it Stargate the movie where the Pyramid
Speaker 1: spaceship comes and sits on top of the geez A Pyramid.
Speaker 1: So are they saying like that the aliens are the capstone?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, because because raw is the if
Speaker 2: the the eye of Ra that he has on his
Speaker 2: medallion represents him as a as a he has a
Speaker 2: talisman as the priest as they what they think is
Speaker 2: he's the priest of Raw and then Ra when he
Speaker 2: appears is An is An is an interdimensional being who
Speaker 2: has taken on a parasitical human host as a child. Right,
Speaker 2: remember he body he like takes over the body of
Speaker 2: a child, so he's he's a he's like the the
Speaker 2: chosen One child who then reappears, so he like he
Speaker 2: goes through the birth rebirth cycle to them. But in
Speaker 2: the meantime, he is keeping a race of slaves on
Speaker 2: a planet X to mine his crystal or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: and that allows him that that allows him regenerative eternal
Speaker 2: life and he oh oh, and he's he's he is
Speaker 2: reborn from death because he appears with the mask of
Speaker 2: a of a pharaoh, like it's a it's a sarcophagus
Speaker 2: mask that he then then changes into his faith like
Speaker 2: the other guys have to put on like a Nubis masks, right,
Speaker 2: they're wearing like helmets, but he has one like in
Speaker 2: his head. And then he has like the flashing eyes
Speaker 2: of a demonic you know, fallen angel, and his he
Speaker 2: appropriates through destruction, so he wants to destroy his creation
Speaker 2: in order to usher in the new aon at the
Speaker 2: end of the film. But yeah, he's in the fly,
Speaker 2: He's in a flying pyramid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to say that the what is
Speaker 1: that word when the aliens are revealed. I think they're
Speaker 1: trying to say that, what is that word? Disclosure? When
Speaker 1: full disclosure happens, that is the end of the great work,
Speaker 1: and the capping of the great pyramid will come when
Speaker 1: disclosure happens. I don't know, I'm just speculating. Yeah, are
Speaker 1: you ready for round three?
Speaker 2: Yes? I'm ready? Is this is this? Is this beyond
Speaker 2: the Mars mission?
Speaker 1: Yes? This is uh chapter three? Round three?
Speaker 2: Okay, Larry Hoagland.
Speaker 1: Who's the link between the Ennead and the lesser Inead?
Speaker 2: My god? Uh jeez, Isaac didn't take these long this
Speaker 2: long with his answers of these.
Speaker 1: One of the gods? What are the main ones? Headed? One?
Speaker 2: The who headed?
Speaker 1: Hawkheaded?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh? The hawkhead is Horace? Okay, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: give me a hand.
Speaker 1: What Roman emperor is Captain James T.
Speaker 2: Kirk named for Tiberius.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: Second, the second Emperor, who is the.
Speaker 1: Author of the Keys of Enoch, whose ideas became the
Speaker 1: lynchpin of a new belief system.
Speaker 2: Uh see, God, there's so many names. It's not Brandenburg,
Speaker 2: it's not Jim Channon, it's not Hope. Is it Oagland?
Speaker 2: Is not Larry Ogland? No? Uh, I don't know who
Speaker 2: is it? Who is it?
Speaker 1: Jj? Hirtek? Okay, okay, okay, We're gonna talk about kiys
Speaker 1: of Younack in a second because that's whacked. Okay. Next question,
Speaker 1: what Star Trek influenced cult committed masks unliving so that
Speaker 1: their souls could be beamed up to the Hilbop spaceship.
Speaker 2: That's Heaven's Gate, Yes, Heaven's Gate. There's another one that
Speaker 2: occurred in the nineties. That's the Solar Temple, which this
Speaker 2: book taught me that Princess Grace was a member of
Speaker 2: the Yeah, Supreme Solar Temple.
Speaker 1: Yes, last question for round three?
Speaker 2: You ready, Marshall apple White?
Speaker 1: What fifteen Ridley Scott movie features an astronaut surviving on
Speaker 1: Mars by mixing his own feces with Martian soil to
Speaker 1: grow potatoes.
Speaker 2: That's The Martian My favorite movie of all time. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Round three?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's because you give me, Yeah, you give
Speaker 2: me like movies. Movies are books that I'm fine or
Speaker 2: useless trivia.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: Reading right, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. The Level
Speaker 2: thirty three transcended Master book that we're reading was this.
Speaker 2: It's pretty difficult. Oh, but speak speaking of books, though,
Speaker 2: the Great the Great Awakening, the Great Disclosure is interesting
Speaker 2: because I'm about to cover this book coming up. Shameless
Speaker 2: self promotion here, this's great. This book by J. G.
Speaker 2: Ballard called The Drowned World, and Ballard is one of
Speaker 2: the great dystopian science fiction writers. But he mentions in
Speaker 2: one of his interviews that he talks about trekkies in
Speaker 2: an interview in the seventies and he said, I'm not
Speaker 2: welcome at these conventions because science fiction to them is
Speaker 2: outer space. But he writes about inner space, and this
Speaker 2: book is about It predicts the water world like theme,
Speaker 2: which is that the the ionosphere has like gone, has
Speaker 2: melted because of magnetic storms on the Sun, and so
Speaker 2: the polar ice caps melt in the world heats up,
Speaker 2: so people only survive in the like Arctic and Antarctic regions,
Speaker 2: and the world sort of overgrows back to a primordial
Speaker 2: primitive state and the main characters start to have these
Speaker 2: weird dreams where they go into something called neuronics, which
Speaker 2: is like they don't their immediate decision making processes are
Speaker 2: kind of diluted, and they don't do things for their
Speaker 2: immediate safety because in terms of their long term, say
Speaker 2: they're having dreams from encoded in their DNA, from from
Speaker 2: who people were in the beginning. So they they they
Speaker 2: really they like start to try and go towards the
Speaker 2: the equator, like an equatorial zone where everything is like
Speaker 2: overgrown and triassic, to form like a there want to
Speaker 2: be the new atom, like a new They're like a
Speaker 2: new it's like a new eat in. But the point
Speaker 2: is that in terms of the Great Disclosure, it's like
Speaker 2: he kind of makes sense the way that he writes
Speaker 2: because he posits that the the future will be boring
Speaker 2: and it won't be full of like the alien revelation
Speaker 2: and everybody will be freaking out, and we've got technology,
Speaker 2: and it's that the more we have technology for our
Speaker 2: immediate needs, the more people start to get lazy, kind
Speaker 2: of like Wally like people. We have all this stuff,
Speaker 2: everything's done for us, and so the process the natural
Speaker 2: human inclination for imagination and discovery gets diluted and so
Speaker 2: nobody wants to do anything anymore, so the big revelations
Speaker 2: will just be like eh. And you kind of see
Speaker 2: that right now, like with the alien stuff, because it's
Speaker 2: so it's so there's so much bs, you know, and
Speaker 2: I think, you know, aliens are the alien thing is
Speaker 2: to me. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people
Speaker 2: will agree, but the alien thing to me is advanced
Speaker 2: technology from humans or if the aliens come, then their
Speaker 2: demons and it's the end of the world.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I agree. I think it's so interesting how
Speaker 1: nobody cares that they're talking about aliens in Congress and
Speaker 1: they're like, do I still have to go to work tomorrow? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: then I don't give a crap. But it's not going
Speaker 1: to be until they see spacious fighting over cities that
Speaker 1: people are gonna actually care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's so much. I think that it's partly
Speaker 2: because it's like a big you know, it's a big
Speaker 2: there's a lot of it's just a big sigh up obviously,
Speaker 2: but like the guy like taking the video, yeah, the
Speaker 2: guy taking the video of like the blue orb at
Speaker 2: the Manchester Airport, you know, and everything's grainy, and you
Speaker 2: don't know what to believe anyway, because we just went
Speaker 2: through this period where we were told all this stuff
Speaker 2: and obviously we didn't believe it because it wasn't real
Speaker 2: and and and now we have deep fakes and you know,
Speaker 2: you don't know what to believe on people don't know
Speaker 2: what to believe online, and you know, you live in
Speaker 2: a kind of metapod world, and there's there's so much
Speaker 2: that's alienating, Like we were alienated from ourselves. We just
Speaker 2: went through the war on the self with the Karanka
Speaker 2: and so if you are the V word, then you're
Speaker 2: a carrier and so you're alienated from yourself as a human.
Speaker 2: And then everybody had the the mask and so you
Speaker 2: have no more identity. So we get to this point
Speaker 2: now where like, is this part of the game where
Speaker 2: everything's all this stuff is sort of being pushed now,
Speaker 2: because it's like, wow, far can we push things before
Speaker 2: we you know, can we totally destroy people's will with
Speaker 2: this or are they just gonna be like mah, yeah whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah. This book does a really good job actually of
Speaker 1: kind of cutting through the bs and painting a picture
Speaker 1: that all of this stuff could be just a giant,
Speaker 1: elaborate hoax like an mk ultra phoharic machination, just for
Speaker 1: straight mind control.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I'm never gonna get over that scene you had.
Speaker 2: I got totally destroyed in this and it's not the book.
Speaker 2: We're reading fatality this time.
Speaker 3: You got fours ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we are looking for where the green dot lands? Okay,
Speaker 1: big books, No wammies.
Speaker 2: This is a good arts and crafts Oh no, you
Speaker 2: got one? Yeah? What am I on the Tasla roadster?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm in the I'm in the whammy zone. Dammit.
Speaker 1: Next three more glean pointing at all?
Speaker 2: Dammit? I think Hey for.
Speaker 1: More, where's the green? Gonna point? B bucks? No whimmy.
Speaker 2: Oh but I mean there's a lot of whammy all right,
Speaker 2: all right, Jamie, Jammie, all right, Well before you spend it,
Speaker 2: can I give you a pop quiz trivia question? Okay,
Speaker 2: this is a pop culture trivia question. People in the
Speaker 2: chat when we when you watch this to see if
Speaker 2: you get this, what movie does a character say it's
Speaker 2: even got a whammy bar.
Speaker 1: Even go to whammy bar? Yeah, that vampire movie.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'll give you it's from the early
Speaker 2: it's from the early nineties. It's an SNL type of movie.
Speaker 2: She's a singer and she sings dream Weaver and she says, sang.
Speaker 1: Who's in it?
Speaker 2: Tia Carrera Wayne's World? Yes, yeah, there you go. Even
Speaker 2: got a whammy bar.
Speaker 1: For the guitar. Yes, all right, well more spin. You
Speaker 1: did not get anything in this round, but you're still ok.
Speaker 1: To Giza with page.
Speaker 3: Nice stream pointing where it's pointing.
Speaker 1: Oh what did you get the arguments?
Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, sweet, very good? So did you did you
Speaker 2: notice that in Stargate the movie that the the seraphim
Speaker 2: with their wings are pointing towards raw In in the
Speaker 2: statue when he appears on the throne.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't notice that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're standing there shielding him.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So that's great.
Speaker 1: This is chapter three beyond the Mars Mission. They are
Speaker 1: trying to link Egypt and Mars. They really want to
Speaker 1: be really bad have like mirror pyramids on Mars and
Speaker 1: the Face on Mars, which is the episode of X
Speaker 1: Files ever Roberta All Rights Mars Mystery. They're probing Mars
Speaker 1: right in the new all the time in the nineties
Speaker 1: and the two thousands. The Face on Mars was supposed
Speaker 1: to be Sphinx like and this is the new hip,
Speaker 1: new vacation spot for the ultra wealthy, right instead of Dubai,
Speaker 1: we are blasting off to Mars.
Speaker 2: Yes, in total recall, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the movie.
Speaker 2: Mission to Mars is about that, right, the Face on
Speaker 2: Mars where he do you remember that movie came out
Speaker 2: around the same time as Red Planet is a superior
Speaker 2: movie because it's about that falcilmer in it. But Mission
Speaker 2: to Mars they are going towards the Face on Mars.
Speaker 2: They've been They've also I think they've also been terraforming
Speaker 2: on that one in that movie. And then when the
Speaker 2: guy sacrificed, it's what's his face that Tim Robbins like
Speaker 2: sacrifices himself for the crew, which is needless in the movie,
Speaker 2: and then he ends up like going into the mouth
Speaker 2: of the Face on Mars and then he meets the
Speaker 2: Great White Brotherhood and transcends that.
Speaker 1: That's so crazy. So Mars is becoming sort of a
Speaker 1: new religious icon. I mean it already was in the
Speaker 1: shape of Horace and the an of Horus, and Mars's
Speaker 1: got warn is associated with Horus, so it's no wonder
Speaker 1: why they're trying to get back there. And this is
Speaker 1: a kind of a short chapter, but it does kind
Speaker 1: of introduce what they are talking about, which is that
Speaker 1: aliens created humans, martians specifically, and then the involvement of
Speaker 1: Sri again is anything and anything seems enough to ring
Speaker 1: alarm bells, at least among special scientists and the CIA
Speaker 1: Department of Defense remote viewing. Another recruit to this was
Speaker 1: Jim Channon of the First Earth Battalion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was cool. I like it when they
Speaker 2: talk about him. That's interesting to me. And Task Force Delta,
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I like the movie goes. I think that's for the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that one too, but I like the
Speaker 2: documentary better where the guy where he makes he's like
Speaker 2: I can He's like, this is a lethal instrument, right,
Speaker 2: and it's like a it's like a ruler slash bottle
Speaker 2: opener and uh, what's his face? What's the name of
Speaker 2: the journalist who with alex at Bohemian Grobb He's the
Speaker 2: one who did who did the documentary that the movie
Speaker 2: is based on. The English guy, Uh, a little dweeb. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he's with him and he's like, I don't He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't say, hand that could do anything. And the
Speaker 2: guy's like puts it up to his nostril and like
Speaker 2: twist him back to the Earth with this little instrument.
Speaker 2: He says, because that's all they need. They don't need weapons,
Speaker 2: right for Task Force Delta, the psychic spies. I like.
Speaker 2: Also when they get into the crop, the trans time
Speaker 2: crop glyphs on page one, it says the message of Sidonia.
Speaker 2: By linking the Builders of Sidonia and this very visible
Speaker 2: yet enigmatic modern phenomenon, Hogland is effectively saying that the
Speaker 2: Martian Builders are still around and are active on Earth now.
Speaker 2: He describes the fact that someone demonstrably not from Earth
Speaker 2: is now it's tending to drive home the message of
Speaker 2: Sidonia as a message in the crops for our very
Speaker 2: eyes right here on Earth.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, exactly, And they say, Hogland says, for now,
Speaker 1: it is clear that if appropriately researched and then applied
Speaker 1: to many current global problems, the potential radical technologies might
Speaker 1: be developed from Message of Sidonia could significantly assist the
Speaker 1: world in a dramatic transition to a real new world order,
Speaker 1: if not a literal world. So Mars has something to
Speaker 1: do with the new world order and they get into
Speaker 1: other dimensions breakthrough.
Speaker 2: The manipulation of mass psychology on page one fifty one.
Speaker 2: We were mentioning this earlier. The proponents of these ideas
Speaker 2: want to use the mysterious religious quasi religious for Masonic ideologies.
Speaker 2: They could even form an exercise of the manipulation of
Speaker 2: mass psychology, as suspected by Tom Rattenberg when he first
Speaker 2: heard of SRI's involvement with a Sidonia enigma. Yep, but
Speaker 2: on a much grander and more worrying scale. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: perhaps it's this. Perhaps the idea behind mass psychology experiment
Speaker 2: experiment is to gauge public reactions to some forthcoming genuine
Speaker 2: announcement about extraterrestrial influences on our past and even on
Speaker 2: our present and future.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like how they put some hypothesis in here,
Speaker 1: so they have like the one is that the Martian
Speaker 1: mysteries are basically false and it's just like mind control.
Speaker 1: And the second one is like it's somehow true, but
Speaker 1: we're not ready.
Speaker 2: To hear it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have our own theories because of our
Speaker 1: worldview is just these are you know, demonic entities from
Speaker 1: another dimension. Deceive people into thinking they're the ones that
Speaker 1: created the world.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So chapter three it wasn't very long, actually, it was
Speaker 1: just kind of just about Mars and that theory. But
Speaker 1: chapter four is where it really pops off with all
Speaker 1: the stuff that we talk about and contact, right.
Speaker 2: M hm yeah, yeah, because we go into Ingo Swan, O'll, Crowley, Blev.
Speaker 1: And the Nine. Okay, So Peter Lavenda actually has a
Speaker 1: whole trilogy about the Nine and whoever's been contacting them
Speaker 1: throughout the years, called Sinister Forces. So if you're interested
Speaker 1: in what we're talking about there, have you read those
Speaker 1: books before? Okay? Yeah, so those are pretty authoritative on
Speaker 1: all of the people who were involved in this roundtable
Speaker 1: foundation channeling the Nine. So let's get right into round four.
Speaker 1: Quiz questions for chapter four.
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 1: You did some good last time?
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, you're ready? All right? Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Okay. What is a Hawaiian shaman called?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, heark was one of them.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, you'll get it.
Speaker 2: Who is one of them? Who'd you say? A Hawaiian shaman?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: A mawana no cohuna? Yeah, okay, here's one.
Speaker 1: Uh huh what is the name of the conscious computer
Speaker 1: slash spacecraft that the Nine live on supposedly made a
Speaker 1: phone call to Uri Geller back in time because it's
Speaker 1: the computer.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see, is it's not? It's not Sidonia? Is it?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: Spectra?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, damn it, damn it? You got Spectru in
Speaker 2: my notes? Right?
Speaker 1: Yes, ha, you can take your tie. It's okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you ready, Okay.
Speaker 2: I guess you'll like this one. Terrible at this Okay,
Speaker 2: keep blind?
Speaker 1: What nineteen seventy eight Brian to Palm A movie features
Speaker 1: a former CIA agent who uses the tactics of young
Speaker 1: psychics to help retrieve his teleganatic Sun from a shadowy
Speaker 1: secret government agency.
Speaker 2: Seventy eight Brian to Palmer film, God, how do I
Speaker 2: not know this one? Mm? It's not SuperNature, it's uh M,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what is it? Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh. Okay have you seen that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that one.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, it's like what we're talking about in
Speaker 1: this chapter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen that one. And we were talking
Speaker 2: about DiPalma recently. When I think of DiPalma, though, I
Speaker 2: think of like did movies with the brave and stunning
Speaker 2: people like Raising Cain and the one with mat Ol
Speaker 2: Kaine is the as the Lady. Yeah, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I didn't recall that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, You've got two more questions in this round.
Speaker 2: Okay, ready, yes, okay?
Speaker 1: What popular TV series is about a small town plagued
Speaker 1: by a hostile alternate dimension after a nearby human experimentation
Speaker 1: facility opens a gateway between Earth and the other side.
Speaker 2: I mean stranger things?
Speaker 1: Yes, okayo, and we're gonna be talking about that in
Speaker 1: this chapter two with the Geller kid. There's space. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Last question in round four? Who were the extraterrestrial race
Speaker 1: that the Nine claim came to Earth twenty thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: to Israel where they encountered Abraham.
Speaker 2: It's Billy, let's see. Uh, I don't know who is it?
Speaker 1: The Hoova?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I had it right here in the
Speaker 2: book to look right there, and you said yes, yes, we'll.
Speaker 1: Give up so soon you were looking de moralized you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Hey, you've got two spins in this round.
Speaker 1: You've already got You've got the Egyptian SPA package. You're
Speaker 1: kind of crushing it actually.
Speaker 2: So you're ready, all right, let's spin it.
Speaker 3: Big?
Speaker 1: What are you look at? The crypto or the trip
Speaker 1: to Ma's.
Speaker 2: Another ball, one horsepin? Oppress your luck? Okay, okay, I
Speaker 2: got the Egyptian SPA package again. I got two nice.
Speaker 1: So Chapter four about contact Richard Hogland, JJ Hurtach, who
Speaker 1: are the main advocates for the Mars. He's a connection
Speaker 1: and they are also part of a cults who are
Speaker 1: telepathically in connection with this group called the Nine. Had
Speaker 1: you heard of the Nine before this book?
Speaker 2: They claim to be the Elohem.
Speaker 1: Yes, they are the Lohem. They are all the nastic
Speaker 1: uh two dads, they're everybody.
Speaker 2: You've talked about them before in other streams because you
Speaker 2: mentioned I remember when you were talking about it. You
Speaker 2: were doing a breakdown to Stranger Things, and you talked
Speaker 2: about eleven and her occultic name because of the number eleven,
Speaker 2: right in the occult number eleven, and then l as
Speaker 2: species as some sort of demigod. But then this also
Speaker 2: mentions they are part of the the Aon of gnosticism.
Speaker 2: Tell us more, tell us more about the the.
Speaker 1: Council of Nine. They say, we gradually uncovered evidence of
Speaker 1: the extraordinary hole that these alleged non human intelligence have
Speaker 1: over the industrialists, cutting edge scientists, popular entertainers, radical parapsychologists,
Speaker 1: and key figures in the military and intelligence circles, to
Speaker 1: find that the nine influence even extends to the threshold
Speaker 1: of the White House. And not just them, but this
Speaker 1: book called The Keys of Enoch by jj Hirtek, who
Speaker 1: he claims to have been in touch with these guys
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three. So this Keys of Eenoch and
Speaker 1: bodies spiritual teachings he claims he was chosen to receive.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, I used to have this book.
Speaker 1: And if you open it up and read it, it's
Speaker 1: just a bunch of gobbly goods. It's like zone theory.
Speaker 1: This is what it sounds like. The key to the
Speaker 1: end of our consciousness time zone is the violation of
Speaker 1: the spectra of color codes in the geometry of radiations,
Speaker 1: which will explode gel forming capacities. For this reason, the
Speaker 1: host of the living light comes to deliver those who
Speaker 1: are living under and within the light of righteousness.
Speaker 2: Like what that sounds like? A Crowley in revelation about
Speaker 2: a plasma gun.
Speaker 1: Well, what is gel forming capacities. Is that the seed
Speaker 1: of autumn.
Speaker 2: Raw sounds like a I don't know, it's it sounds
Speaker 2: like what you become when you go through the Star
Speaker 2: Game eight because he turns into plasma gel and he
Speaker 2: goes to the start. He's walking through the mirror, right,
Speaker 2: the looking glass. So they always do that in the make.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm reading on Neuromancer right now, and it's
Speaker 2: the same sort of thing, jacking into the cyber space,
Speaker 2: into the matrix, like it's like walking through the the
Speaker 2: looking glass, silver mirror, plasma mirror. But also weapons are
Speaker 2: also involved in this. They're always involved, and there's like
Speaker 2: plasma guns and plasma weapons.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's the watergate, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about with the death of Whitney Houston and those things,
Speaker 1: like those rituals of you know, the water and like
Speaker 1: you said, when they fire up the stargate, it becomes
Speaker 1: this gelatinous liquid interface that word that you go through
Speaker 1: space in this jelly.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Again again it's contrasted with baptism, you know,
Speaker 2: good point. Instead of going through the water gate and
Speaker 2: having your home, did you know, you get bodies ninety
Speaker 2: percent water. The nerds are always saying that instead of that,
Speaker 2: you are washed with the water of life. You don't
Speaker 2: need to turn your being into jelly to go into
Speaker 2: the alternate universe.
Speaker 1: So one of these characters of the book, Andre Pharik,
Speaker 1: m hm, he's gonna pop up for the rest of
Speaker 1: the time because he is involved in all of this
Speaker 1: and could be just facilitating this conspiracy of the Nine
Speaker 1: and the extraterrestrials and lying and doing all these channelings.
Speaker 1: But he wrote a paper with Edgar Mitchell. You can
Speaker 1: find this on CIA dot go called direct Brain Perception
Speaker 1: and direct brain action exists. So already we're starting to
Speaker 1: figure out that the remote viewing is part of mind control, right,
Speaker 1: like directly beaming thoughts in two people. And then the
Speaker 1: uh software side of it or the hardware side when
Speaker 1: you have like neuralink or implants, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I've got a question for you. I got a trivia
Speaker 2: for you. Okay, what through the you're the magister adapt
Speaker 2: level at this? All right? The Nine of Heliopolis? Okay,
Speaker 2: all right? Can you name? Can you name? Can you name?
Speaker 2: Let's see, let's say, can you name four of the
Speaker 2: nine of Heliopolis?
Speaker 1: Ok before, Yeah, okay, all right, shoot, yet, isis Osiris tefnet?
Speaker 4: Is that one of them?
Speaker 2: Uh? Huh uh?
Speaker 1: Who's the arch lady? Okay, eight? What did I get?
Speaker 2: You've already got seven of them. There's there's, there's Autumn
Speaker 2: and then Nephis nephis. Okay, okay, he got seven of
Speaker 2: the nine. All right, you got it. That's crazy. I
Speaker 2: did not. I didn't think you would get I didn't
Speaker 2: think you would get Shoe and gab. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: your stuff. What if.
Speaker 1: A few stars and the others earth is that shoe
Speaker 1: and pepnitt and guess they're all like pairs, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like ice that.
Speaker 2: Nephi, Yeah, shoe and taffanant gab and nut, Yeah, Osiris
Speaker 2: and isis set and Nepthists and then hot them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, okay, you want to go visit Lab nine.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to visit anythse places.
Speaker 1: New York State commune run by a big kahuna himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was attracting the wealthy and noble and the Geller kids
Speaker 1: and space kids they called them. So this is men
Speaker 1: first class.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And this all comes from what they call the round
Speaker 1: Table foundation sections and the first of these took place
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two and they were talking about mass energy,
Speaker 1: speed of light, all kinds of sciencey stuff. What else, Oh,
Speaker 1: Uri Geller was Israeli massad. So a lot of this
Speaker 1: stuff ties in with spine too, because the authors, they said,
Speaker 1: would go around to these like archaeological sites around the
Speaker 1: world under the guise of, you know, just academia, but
Speaker 1: they're actually doing spy stuff too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed obvious that when you look at the
Speaker 2: like archival footage of Uri Geller doing anything, it seems
Speaker 2: like you would It seems obvious. But also didn't they
Speaker 2: say Uri Geller appeared like who did he appeared to
Speaker 2: someone in this book, like with the hawk with a
Speaker 2: hawk mask, like a hawk mask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said that when they talked to the creatures
Speaker 1: on the other dimension they have bird heads. H Yeah,
Speaker 1: and one of the famous names associated with the Lab
Speaker 1: nine scene. So this was like a ranch out in
Speaker 1: the mid of nowhere where they have all these kids
Speaker 1: and they're doing these remote viewing and pi ultra experiments
Speaker 1: kind of like what was that one with Drew Barrymore, Oh,
Speaker 1: fire Starter, Yeah right, Yeah, we're looking for gifted kids
Speaker 1: with telekinesis abilities carry Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fire Starter is the Stargate monarch, yes, pyrokinetic exactly.
Speaker 1: And one of the people who would visit this they
Speaker 1: called it the Turkey Farm, was Gene Roddenberry of Star Trek.
Speaker 1: So so much of the Star Trek canon and lore
Speaker 1: comes from the channeling of this nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stargate is mentioned in the book, in the Stephen
Speaker 2: King book, oh is it? Yeah? I did it. I
Speaker 2: did a book analysis on it a while ago because
Speaker 2: I never read Stephen King when I was growing up,
Speaker 2: and I did a Stranger Things thing and then I
Speaker 2: it's clearly, you know, a lot of it is has
Speaker 2: a prominence in in Firestarter. And then when I read
Speaker 2: the book, the book is incredibly explicit about MK ulture.
Speaker 2: She's being I mean, she's being programmed at an MK
Speaker 2: ultra facility, and it goes into the history of m
Speaker 2: K culture and MKAY often. And then the remake of
Speaker 2: the movie with Zach Efron is even more explicit than
Speaker 2: the than the the nineteen eighty four movie here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, there's a there's a remake, and people
Speaker 2: don't know that there's a remake of Firestarter. Yeah, with
Speaker 2: with Zach Efron and it's not it's it's not great,
Speaker 2: but it's it's more revelatory in terms of that.
Speaker 1: And he actually says and he in the book, yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a big Yeah, I got it. Hold
Speaker 2: on yeah, see yeah, let's see if I can find
Speaker 2: it in here. Here's the book. It's just sixty four
Speaker 2: and sixty five. Yeah. He talks about a LOT six
Speaker 2: experiment s r a psionics sigh power. The the assassin
Speaker 2: who's after her is called rain Bird. He's an m
Speaker 2: K Delta Sid Gottlieb Stranger. Uh. I wrote stranger things
Speaker 2: as a note here. And they're trying to make her
Speaker 2: into a Winter Soldier. Winter is coming here, trying to
Speaker 2: make her in an MK Delta Winter Soldier. Uh. Aleister
Speaker 2: Crowley is mentioned in here somewhere, I know. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: start talking about Gladio. I mean, it's it's pretty it's
Speaker 2: pretty detailed, wow paperback. Yeah, but there's there are huge
Speaker 2: sections of it.
Speaker 1: And of course that's Drew Barrymore's first per second first
Speaker 1: or second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'd made ET and like nineteen eighty one and
Speaker 2: then she made this. This was nineteen eighty four, was
Speaker 2: the film. But yeah, I mean It talks about the
Speaker 2: programming of how they make her a essentially a Winter
Speaker 2: Soldier MK delta, and she trying to find the actual
Speaker 2: mention of MK ulture because it's mentioned in here explicitly.
Speaker 2: But this character, doctor Wandless is a Sydney Gottlieb type
Speaker 2: and he's a CIA black, you know, black magician, black sorcerer.
Speaker 2: They call her the Z the Z factor, basically like
Speaker 2: a LOT six was nothing, But it's that a copy
Speaker 2: of a pituitary extract, after all, an incredibly powerful painkiller
Speaker 2: hallucinogen that we did not understand then that we don't
Speaker 2: understand now we know, or at least we are ninety
Speaker 2: nine percent sure that the natural counterpart of this substance
Speaker 2: is responsible in some way for the occasional flashes of
Speaker 2: siability that nearly all human beings demonstrate from time to time,
Speaker 2: a surprisingly wide range of phenomenon precognition, telekinesis, mental domination,
Speaker 2: bursts of superhuman strength, temporary control over the sympathetic nervous system.
Speaker 2: Did you know that the pituitary gland becomes suddenly overactive
Speaker 2: in nearly all biofeedback experiments? Start talking about RIM, which
Speaker 2: is RIM is mixed in with the astral projection and
Speaker 2: then it goes it basically goes into Montauk project and
Speaker 2: trauma based SR. That's how they that's how they make
Speaker 2: her into a firestarter. They she is like captured as
Speaker 2: a baby and she's put through these horrid experiments and
Speaker 2: because she's a child and she has more psychic abilities
Speaker 2: to begin with, but then she dissociates and then they
Speaker 2: harness that, and they harness the like the it's supposed
Speaker 2: to be alluding to the Adrino aspects of it. And
Speaker 2: then the her altars are programmed and they are they're
Speaker 2: psycho and they're psychokinetic and uh, and they make her
Speaker 2: they make her into a child Winter soldier in the
Speaker 2: in the book, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot in the book. Yeah, what are details?
Speaker 2: Mhm uh. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So he's got these kids at the Lab nine and
Speaker 5: the Nines, like you said, they say they're the Aloheen.
Speaker 1: They say they're the AONs of narcissism. They say they
Speaker 1: come from Serious again, so all of these things always
Speaker 1: go back to freaking Serious And some people who were
Speaker 1: channeling the Nine are not happy because they give contradicting
Speaker 1: details and even through Geller. He said, when he arrived
Speaker 1: in the United States, the Nine recommended, oh recommends their
Speaker 1: antics with more messages on instantly wiped tapes and teleportations. Significantly,
Speaker 1: Geller himself was not a convert to the Nine. Even
Speaker 1: at the stage he found their pranks childish and unimpressive.
Speaker 1: He said, I think somebody's playing games with us. Perhaps
Speaker 1: they are a civilization of clowns, so they have this
Speaker 1: t trickster element to them, and we just had to
Speaker 1: show about are the Nephilim? Are the clowns like portraying
Speaker 1: some kind of nephilim. So it's interesting that he called
Speaker 1: them clowns and like tricksters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of I mean all that. It
Speaker 2: seems like all the pagan pantheons have a trickster element
Speaker 2: to it. I mean, of course, Satan is a form
Speaker 2: of trickster, but it's slightly different. You know, it's to
Speaker 2: mimic creation and then laugh at your attempts to accomplish,
Speaker 2: right to I mean, Shakespeare and king Lear is a
Speaker 2: pagan play. But in king Lear he says, we are
Speaker 2: but playthings to the gods. They kill us for their sport,
Speaker 2: and in a lot of the movies, like in a
Speaker 2: lot of the movies about Greek and Roman gods, you know,
Speaker 2: you have these clay figurines. It's clay because it's human clay,
Speaker 2: dust to dust, and you have the gods on Olympus
Speaker 2: kind of squashing the people just for fun. So it
Speaker 2: sort of makes sense, but it is also the thing
Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier, like