WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:04.200 Baby, you are my game statue. It takes at a tangle. 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:06.360 You don't mess with me. 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:15.240 Mess with me, baby, are my gamestato Peach, Baby, You're 4 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:17.039 a game statue. 5 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.199 For Warner. This podcast is designed to take you outside 6 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.600 of your comfort zone and make you question reality. Listener 7 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:32.159 discretion is a vibe. 8 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:44.079 Fellas, this ain't my first time at the rodeos. 9 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:50.840 Mhmm. 10 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:54.439 Not Bill Kobe and Julie the cosy Peach. I appreciate 11 00:00:54.479 --> 00:01:00.439 y'all joining me for a swapcast operation conspiracy playtime. Empeach 12 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:02.600 would triple swapcast. 13 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:05.120 It's where the dream team. 14 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:08.159 This is a conspiracy three way. 15 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:09.359 Oh I like that one. 16 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:15.359 There you go, conspiracy three way. 17 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.000 You know, the innocence project here and the matters of 18 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.000 the case of Scott Peterson and the death of his 19 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:25.640 wife an unborn child. You know a lot is the 20 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:27.840 is the topic we're talking about here tonight, right Scott 21 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.280 Peterson went to got convicted what. 22 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:33.079 Two five? 23 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:34.079 Well? 24 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.280 I think I think I think the murder went down 25 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:40.159 in two thousand and two and then they drug it out. 26 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:41.959 I think it was two thousand and five when the 27 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:43.000 verdict was announced. 28 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:45.359 I could be wrong about that. That's just memory shit. 29 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:47.959 I think you are correct. So it was December twenty four, 30 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.640 twenty twenty two. Was was the alleged date. And I 31 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.920 want to stress alleged date because when they started off 32 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.000 the trial, the alleged date of the murder was the 33 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:59.000 twenty sixth, so which is funny they we see over 34 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.319 the prosecute. I would again, I would assert Scott Peterson 35 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.920 did not do it. The evidence asserts the same. There's 36 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.000 no evidence against the man, but we see a lot 37 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.520 of the same parallels between this case and many other 38 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:11.599 cover ups and cases. 39 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.360 So I actually want to start off this episode by saying, 40 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.680 much like in the OJ episode, you guys are gonna 41 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:23.919 have to sell it to me, because I think there's 42 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:28.479 three camps that you can be in. Scott Peterson did it. 43 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:34.120 He's innocent, but and he was set up to make 44 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:38.599 it look like he did it or Lacy was never 45 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.319 a real person. And this is all just a theater show. 46 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:43.120 There's three kings, all right. 47 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.120 I haven't heard of that one, ma'am, So let's start 48 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:45.879 with the theater. 49 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:47.960 On your own too. 50 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:48.680 Yeah. 51 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:51.879 Well, and I have a couple of pieces of evidence to. 52 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:53.479 Make I'm not against that at all. I liked. I mean, 53 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:55.479 I like all these kind of ideas, whatever, whatever works 54 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:57.680 best for as what are the known facts we can establish? 55 00:02:57.840 --> 00:02:59.840 When the known facts we can establish the Scott Peterson 56 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.280 not do it. The case is fabricating. Ever regard so, 57 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.719 and we we can establish that much, well then what 58 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:08.960 else is fictional? Right? Where does the magic end? 59 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:10.639 It's really just two camps. 60 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:13.439 It's this is a real story, and there's a narrative 61 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:15.599 going on, and he's either innocent or guilty or yeah, 62 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:16.759 it's just fucking bullshit. 63 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.039 I think he did it if. 64 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:21.439 It's common denominator, if you if you may. 65 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:23.400 I think he didn't do it if it's real. 66 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:28.439 We'll start off by letting everybody know that Juju is 67 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:29.680 going to be teamed up on here. 68 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:33.680 Yeah, it's two against one. And that's fine because I 69 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:37.360 told JJ when we did the OJ show that I 70 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:38.439 thought he did it. 71 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:39.680 Well, I find it interesting. 72 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:41.560 I mean, that's what we started the OJ show, and 73 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:46.319 I keep getting a request for more OJ dude, not 74 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:48.599 the drink, but more analysis on the case. 75 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.479 I never I never told you this, but years ago 76 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:56.240 I heard you talking about Idaho four with Nick and 77 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.840 you mentioned the OJ thing, and I told Nick Hey, dude, 78 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:01.560 could you set me up with that JJ guy, I 79 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:04.439 want to do a thing about oj and for years 80 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:06.240 he just like, oh, I'll talk to him. 81 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:06.400 Oh. 82 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:08.039 I talked to him. He said he's down. Oh, we'll 83 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:08.479 set it up. 84 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.879 So anyway, I thought that was really cool to see 85 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:13.800 you and her do it because she came at it 86 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.959 from the angle of thinking the narrative, the official narrative 87 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:18.480 is real. 88 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.160 But I find it interesting. 89 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:22.439 I don't mean to talk shit, but this is the 90 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.480 first time I remember hearing of any request to speak. 91 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:28.240 I know that now, trust me, I figured that out. 92 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:29.319 But it's because I. 93 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.560 Just want to let you know I was ignore anything. 94 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.759 I mean, no, no, no, no, this is not This 95 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:37.480 is just it finally happened, and you did it with her, 96 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.120 and it's a way better show than ours would have been, 97 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:44.000 probably because she thought you did it, so then she 98 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.480 brought her same thing, her same conclusion to this. So 99 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.519 I just find it interesting that as a conspiracy theorist 100 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:53.360 when it comes to true crime, ship Julia just watches 101 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.360 the the documentaries. 102 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:59.040 The because I'm going off the information provided. 103 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:04.160 But if I made it to be fair, they're very compelling. 104 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:11.439 Magic show. Well, he looked qually financed, well organized, well perpetrated. Yeah, 105 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:13.720 for sure, for sure, and they do a good job. 106 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.439 I mean again, it's hard to defend a scumbag, right, 107 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:18.600 I mean again, let's be honest with you. Scott Peterson's 108 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:19.600 kind of a scum bag. 109 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:23.800 And that was the defense said ship like that, defending. 110 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:26.279 It you got you gotta recognize the facts though, right, 111 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.319 I do agree with Garry Goes in that regard. If 112 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.120 you want to try to he's gotten ship over there. 113 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.480 He's still that clip I have. He's still defending Scott 114 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:36.959 Peterson today. So he's always defended Scott Peterson. Some peoples 115 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:38.399 folks have said he did it in the wrong way. 116 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:41.120 I don't think so. He was up against a fucking mountain, 117 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.199 you know. And it's the same thing with Brian Coberger. 118 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.639 The media convict him nothing in the courtroom, did you know? 119 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:47.120 So? 120 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:53.040 I think Gary Goes actually, in my opinion, was in 121 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:57.720 on the Scott Peterson setup because he ignored key fucking witnesses. 122 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:01.279 He ignored stuff that went on with the cadaver dogs. 123 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:04.199 He could have admitted a lot of stuff in his 124 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.519 defense that would have made Scott look a lot more innocent, 125 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:07.399 and he didn't. 126 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:10.480 You make a fantastic argument, sir. I'm in the same 127 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:12.399 that's where I see all of the things you all 128 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:14.319 have said so far about this case. I sit on 129 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.000 in that same position. Without four, I can't confirm these 130 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.680 people are actually dead. There's no record of any of 131 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:22.319 their desks with any outside of what law enforcement has 132 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:25.839 provenly lied across the spectrum of activities has said. You know, 133 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.920 there's no independent, verifiable evidence of their deaths. There's no 134 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.839 probate court cases for their estates to set all their debts, 135 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.480 and you know, you know their moneys, which they did 136 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.319 have properties that's documented, so like vehicles and whatnot. So 137 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.560 that's weird. There's no there's no burials, there's no funerals. 138 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:46.240 They were all four victims were llegedly cremated. There's no 139 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.120 photographs or videos of anyone taking bodies out of the house. 140 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.839 There's no there's all the evidence of the crime scene 141 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.639 photos now do not comport with the video or the 142 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.439 written reports that do not comport with the nine one 143 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.120 one call, the lead nine on one call that's not official. 144 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.480 That's still never benefit. So we see all this magic 145 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.920 show that goes on in a lot of distractions. I 146 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.759 said the same way in this case, though I do 147 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:08.879 with that one is you know, defense attorney Anne Taylor 148 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.560 did not She did a great job in many respects, 149 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:13.279 one much like I say about Garry Giz. But yeah, 150 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:14.920 there's a lot of holes there, man, there's a lot 151 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:15.480 of holes there. 152 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.040 I kind of want to walk through the timeline and 153 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:21.600 I'm going to tell you as the timeline unfolds why 154 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:25.079 I think he's guilty, and you can just debate me 155 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.079 and tell me how wrong I am. 156 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:28.759 But that's a great way to do it. Is I 157 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:31.519 like that and worked out well with the OJ stuff too, man. 158 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:36.439 Yeah, because I think as the story progresses, in my opinion, 159 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.360 he just looks more and more and more and more guilty. 160 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:45.439 So are you gonna I don't disagree. He didn't do 161 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:47.279 himself any favors, and if I want to, if I 162 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.680 may kick it off on that note, So let's imagine 163 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:53.959 the scenario where this dude did not do it right, 164 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.600 which is again all the evidence supports that none of 165 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:58.800 the evidence of the state provided, even the fictional shit, 166 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:02.079 really provides any of anything better than what would be 167 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.519 described as circumstantial evidence. And even that doesn't fit the 168 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:07.439 chronology of events that he was, we know where Scott 169 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.199 Peterson was, Like, they just squeezed stuff in there and 170 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.319 ignored known facts of where his locations were on that day. 171 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:15.680 They alleged that the murders occurred on the twenty fourth, 172 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.720 because after the trial began, they argued in the opening statement, 173 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:21.120 the murders occurred on the twenty sixth. They moved the 174 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.399 ship back during the trail, not during the investigation. 175 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.040 So I know why they did that too. 176 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:28.079 What's that, sir? 177 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:30.560 I think I know why they did that. Why is 178 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:34.840 that because the timeline with the Medina robbery did not 179 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.120 fit the timeframe and they even fucking said first those 180 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:42.639 two guys said, you know, they didn't deny doing the robbery, 181 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.480 and then they said they did it on the twenty seventh, 182 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:47.000 And they were like, well, the Medinas were home from 183 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.039 their Christmas trip like late the twenty sixth or early 184 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.960 the twenty seventh, so you couldn't have robbed And they're like, oh, no, 185 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.120 we did it on the twenty sixth, And then the 186 00:08:55.120 --> 00:09:01.000 official story became, Yeah, there's fucking camera cruise all that 187 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.320 shit going on on the twenty six Why would they 188 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.639 be across the house robbing it, so they had it's 189 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:07.879 like they hadn't gotten their story straight. And I didn't 190 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.120 even know that they did that in the opening statement. 191 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:12.919 So that's exactly mean, that's exactly what went on there. Yeah, 192 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:14.240 And if you look at the rest of the details 193 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:16.919 and how they even got to that point, it's ridiculous. 194 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:19.960 So it is the street, the home across the street 195 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:23.039 got robbed, and those guys were apparently suspects at some 196 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:25.600 point in time. There's two robbers, and one of them 197 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:30.519 made statements about her interacting with her Lacy Peterson while 198 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.320 you know, in the course of that robbery on a 199 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.399 jail phone call, and then the yeah, the same thing. 200 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:38.360 We don't have that anymore. 201 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:42.360 The lieutenant of the correctional facility called the prosecutor and 202 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:45.559 the cops and the defense. I don't know did they 203 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.320 call the defense on that one. I might be mixing 204 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:50.039 it up, but I think he did, and they all 205 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:52.960 he said, yeah, I have these two brothers in here, 206 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:56.200 Scott and something tempering to Temperington or some shit. 207 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.200 The other guy's name is Scott too. 208 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.399 I think I think so the two the Burlers. 209 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:06.960 No, these two brothers in this correctional facility. There was 210 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.159 a phone call between two brothers. One of those guys 211 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:12.679 was like Scott temp Temperton or Tempington, I don't remember now, but. 212 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:17.200 That and hey, they just destroyed it, right, what's that? 213 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.159 Yeah, but they just they just destroyed They recognized that 214 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.360 she was talked about in that conversation, but who knows 215 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:24.360 where the where the tape went. 216 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.720 But I have a problem with this because his alibi 217 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.159 for it went down on the twenty fourth, right, officially 218 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:36.720 the twenty fourth. 219 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.639 Well that's that's well, that's their statement. But before we 220 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.120 get there, they and doing so in the state that 221 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:44.679 she even going back to the twenty fourth, they ignored 222 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:47.919 the ten eyewitness statements over the standard route of her 223 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.559 travel of walking your dog after she had breakfast on 224 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:53.399 the twenty fourth with Scott, her husband, and he's accounted 225 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:56.200 for during that time afterwards. Again, the chronology of events, 226 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:58.639 it never fits. That's nothing comports in their in their 227 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.480 and their uh in their claim. But they have ten 228 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.720 eyewitness statements claiming they all saw Lacy Peterson walking that dog. 229 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:11.720 See, so okay, why did he everybody? Why did he 230 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.679 tell everybody that he went golfing and then later told 231 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.360 everybody that he went fishing. 232 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.679 Well, I'll get to that in a second. That's a 233 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:22.879 good question because again, the guy's a scumbag, was cheating 234 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:24.639 on his eight eight months pregnant wife. 235 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.879 That's my thing is he probably was fucking around. 236 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:31.799 Do you think that was the only girl he was begging? 237 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:33.600 He admitted later on that it wasn't. 238 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:35.720 I don't know if he if he meant at the 239 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.919 same time, but he said there there had been others, 240 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.320 and he didn't really specify as far as I know 241 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:41.879 what that meant. 242 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:44.559 There was evidence of others again he admitted. So again 243 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.559 the state focused on that amber for ioland because they 244 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:49.120 need to focus on his upset, his alleged obsession with her, 245 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:53.480 of which there was no evidence of that. So, but 246 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:55.600 to the fact that if the murdered did a current 247 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:57.240 on the twenty fourth, you'd have to ignore, and the 248 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.639 state did ten eyewitness accounts of the normal see Lacy 249 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.200 Peterson walking her dog on a normal route. The dogs 250 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.120 later found on its leash. 251 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.039 Outside by name fucking muddy. 252 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:12.759 Yeah. I mean, so if Scott Peterson kills her, then 253 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:14.440 how do you have to count for the dog in 254 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:16.320 these eyewitness statements? And then you have to count for 255 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.279 her going home after that, and the forensic data of 256 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:23.519 her their computer showed search results for sunflower dresses or 257 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.519 something like that, which is something she was a big 258 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.799 shit everything with sunflowers with Lacy Peterson. Somebody was searching 259 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:32.080 sunflower dresses with sunflower patterns on it, you know, at 260 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:33.960 like one o'clock in the afternoon on the twenty four. 261 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:36.240 So then you have her that one during the time 262 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:37.159 of that robbery. Right. 263 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:39.840 Do you know how they explained that one away? 264 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:44.240 I think they just ignored it because why. 265 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.559 Did he lie about going to the golf court. 266 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.279 I have a theory on all of it where I 267 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.600 think it makes perfect sense what Scott was up to 268 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.919 and why he lied, and why he knew his wife 269 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:57.200 was either missing or dead, and. 270 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:02.240 Why like that they said Lacy had a doctor's note 271 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:06.200 that she was supposed to be on bedrest, that she 272 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.120 should not have been walking the dog that day because 273 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:10.919 she was having fainting spells. 274 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:14.279 Well, regardless of all that, we will talk about that. 275 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:19.879 I think Scott Peterson, he was working for this fertilizer 276 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.320 company that opened up a new thing and they were 277 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:28.759 selling androgynists hydroxide, and Scott had some neo Nazi witnesses 278 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:32.399 come forward and talk about conversations. It looked like his 279 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:35.159 parents were laundering money through the kids. 280 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:38.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's unpack that for a moment, sir. 281 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.720 We're dealing with this with a case in meth Desto, California, 282 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.960 the meth capital of America. Meth emphati is one of 283 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.600 the primary products, is what you just identified, and the 284 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.000 production and manufacturer meth. You need those chemicals in. 285 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.000 That fertilizer, yes, And you're right. 286 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.080 His father got him hooked into these things. And his 287 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:59.840 father and mother run an interesting import export business out 288 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:01.080 of San Diego. 289 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.879 And they're buying their kids. One of them, like one 290 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.679 of his half brothers, is basically a retard, and they 291 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:08.440 were buying and that's the one whose idea he had, 292 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:13.159 I believe, And they were buying these kids homes and 293 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.559 then switching whose names the mortgages were on in very 294 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:19.120 odd ways. And then you got to account for the 295 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:22.240 fact that all these people he's running with, he's going 296 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.440 to Fresno a lot. I think Scott Peterson got he 297 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.360 pissed the wrong fucking people off, and they fucking gave 298 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:34.000 him a choice, and he opted out and they killed 299 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:37.000 his fucking wife and kid. If this is real, that's 300 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:37.480 what I think. 301 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.000 I think you're honest on the Sarto, I think that's 302 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:42.639 that's certainly. I'm not exactly in the complete agreement with 303 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:44.919 your assessment, but your general assessment. I am if there's 304 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:46.720 something going on here, If it did happen for real, 305 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:50.159 he pissed somebody off and drugs were involved in maths 306 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.919 productions and he's white nationalists you're talking about. That's a 307 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.799 major epicenter in activity. There were all that dating back 308 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:58.039 to the manson Aaron when he was running meth with 309 00:14:58.080 --> 00:14:59.399 the Hell's Angels through that region. 310 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.000 Yes, I think it's all the same playbook there, and. 311 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:04.960 I think it's the same network. 312 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:05.799 Julia. 313 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:11.200 Yes, Julia talks about how there's this note from the 314 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:13.919 doctor and all this stuff, and that's maybe true. 315 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.879 But speaking of the baby, people have. 316 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.919 Pointed out that that she would have been thirty one 317 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.759 weeks along when this happened, and they find like a 318 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:28.039 pristine looking newborn then they find her body. Now they 319 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.720 said the baby was like thirty six to thirty seven weeks, 320 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:36.159 No eight, that's what, Yes, but how far along was 321 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.279 she when this kidnapping or whatever went down. 322 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:42.159 She was thirty one weeks along. That is true. 323 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.759 Let's put a pin on that, because that's the forensics 324 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.799 that everyone ignored. So there was some distinct differences in 325 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:50.639 decomposition between the alleged torso that's what they found and 326 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.440 then they would later claim was DNA Through blood and 327 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.720 DNA they proved that was that was Lacy Peterson's torsos 328 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.399 that came up from the water, allegedly anchored down by 329 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.360 some concrete anchors built by her husband, allegedly again not proven. 330 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:06.919 But the baby, yeah, it seemed to be having to 331 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:09.279 actually have been given birth at some point and been 332 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:11.000 lived longer than its mother. 333 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:12.480 Yeah. 334 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:14.240 And I was trying to talk to her about this 335 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:18.960 last night because it just it gives a lot of 336 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:21.559 credence to the fact that she was held longer. I mean, 337 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.279 they didn't find her body till April, and they're like, yeah, 338 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:31.279 the ocean is unforgiving, and then she's missing extremities in 339 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:34.279 most of her organs. Never found her head. Now, that 340 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.519 looks to me like that's not something the ocean did. 341 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.879 She was part of a ritual, part of what they 342 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:44.120 wanted us to believe happened to Sharon Tate kind of thing, 343 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.799 and maybe the child was kept alive and killed a 344 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.679 later day and thrown in And then she always when 345 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:54.440 we were talking about this last night, she brings up, well, why. 346 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.639 Why would he have been at that bay? 347 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:00.679 And I said, of course, if the people see, that's 348 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:02.759 where people are gonna believe, that's where they're gonna dump. 349 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:04.680 The body is where they where he said he was, 350 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.400 so it doesn't make him look guilt exactly. 351 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:10.039 So everyone needs that against them, and Sandy Coberger, if 352 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:11.960 you have no evidence, that's evidence against them, and if 353 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:13.599 you don't, if you have evidence of him being somewhere, 354 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:16.000 well then we'll pen we'll put the evidence in that area. 355 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:19.240 So everyone knew he went. He said he from day no. One. 356 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.640 He never lied to law enforcement about any of his 357 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.920 activities outside of this claim of the fishing and the 358 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:26.079 golfing thing that Juliys mentioned. I do think that's the 359 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:28.680 most interesting portions of his tail, because the rest of 360 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.759 his chronology of events to law enforcement. He's not a 361 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:32.799 good liar. It's proven to not be a good liar. 362 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:35.000 The only thing because he tried to lie the only 363 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:36.759 thing you know to try to lie about to law enforcement. 364 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:38.839 Was his affair, and they quickly found that out. 365 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.519 And then to me the anchor thing, I think he 366 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.960 may have been dumping product or something for these fucking people. 367 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.920 That's what I'm saying. Dude, you have well, first of all, 368 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.480 so you have in the production of mathema vetomanes. You 369 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:56.759 have with all these chemicals. I've never made math, I've 370 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.680 never even seen breaking bad but brought to us by 371 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.640 one Charles Manson's friends, Brian Kranston, friends with Charles Manson. 372 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.519 His word's not mine, they knew each other anyhow. Yeah, strangely, 373 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.079 why is it always Manson's buddy's bringing always always processed 374 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:12.359 fuckers bringing us all this degradation to society. Weird, right, 375 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:17.359 So there's a lot of byproduct, so they have to 376 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:19.079 do something with that. You can't just go throat and 377 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:20.759 you know, in a ways you gotta have you know, 378 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.079 where'd you get all his chemicals you're dumping? Oh, I 379 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:24.599 make metho at home, you know, I mean, you got 380 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:26.640 to do something with it. So what's a great way 381 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.240 to do it? Build some concrete anchors, go through it 382 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:31.480 in the ocean. To one of your dudes who's out 383 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.119 there fishing every week, or something like that, because the 384 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.920 guy is a big fisherman. His first day with Lacy 385 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:41.079 Peterson was fishing. Who takes I'm a big fisherman, I'm 386 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:42.880 living a van down by the river I live. I'm 387 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:45.640 a fucking mountain man. I've never taken my first day 388 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:47.440 in it. Why I mean, I was married for seventeen years, 389 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.599 but never did my first day in into it to fishing. 390 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:54.240 But he didn't have the boat. He bought the boat 391 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.240 the day he told Amber Fry that his wife was dead. 392 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:00.920 So he's a lie. 393 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:03.359 But why tell her my wife is dead? 394 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.200 And then we are not We are not debating whether 395 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:08.440 or not Scott Peterson was a scumbag liar. 396 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:10.799 We all know that. But what was he trying to 397 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.279 cover up with his life. 398 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.640 Before December ninth? What? 399 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:14.799 What? 400 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:17.440 How do you explain? What was he you saying he 401 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:20.599 bought the boat on December ninth because he was dumping drugs. 402 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:23.960 He was always fishing, he was renting. So let's let's 403 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:26.359 unpack ever saying. Let's also note back to his father. 404 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:29.039 His father's went and got him this job again. And 405 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:33.200 let's also note that according for whatever reason, I don't know, 406 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.240 so the state try to pretend like this this identity 407 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.839 that Scott Peterson had created for himself with Amber Fry 408 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.880 on those recordings that they had her do right, which 409 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.480 he again was very apologetic to her for lying, et cetera, 410 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:46.960 et cetera. You know what I mean. So there's a 411 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.640 lot of things that we said about his behavior there 412 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.240 that doesn't really yield to appoint to him being guilty, 413 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:54.200 but it was framed that way, and they were framing 414 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.559 as an obsession with this lady. And again he, by 415 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:58.640 his own admission, was bang the other ladies. He has 416 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:01.079 a scumbag that is, That's what I mean. So what 417 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:04.559 other skumbag activities into? So he's he's always fishing, so 418 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.000 he's renting boats, he's doing these other things. He's going 419 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.720 to Cairo. He's going to uh, give me one second. 420 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.519 My dog's are getting outrageous, give me one second. Oh yeah, 421 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:17.119 So we know when we're trying to parse out what 422 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.279 Scott Peterson did or did not do here, I mean, 423 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.359 he's obviously hiding since again what is he hiding, right? 424 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:24.920 What activities was he into? What was he doing on 425 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:28.079 on these fishing trips? Why is a fertilizer salesman who 426 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:31.079 became the top fertilizer salesman for that company, a company 427 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:32.880 that's out of Spain. I believe it is, if I'm 428 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.880 not mistaken or ask some weird European connections. And Peterson's 429 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.240 going to Cairo, He's going to Belgium, He's going to 430 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:42.599 There's not a far off destination that he's going to. 431 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:45.839 Hey go, there's not a far off destinations going to. 432 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:47.680 What where's he going through these times that the state 433 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:49.960 would later claim that he's lying to amber Fry about 434 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:52.920 being this jetsenter. Gup. No, he's really going to those places. 435 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:54.319 He just wasn't there at the time he was telling 436 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:55.200 amber Fry he. 437 00:20:55.119 --> 00:21:00.599 Was there, Harris, Yeah, but it's worth note the androgenous 438 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:05.240 hydroxide is an ineffective and more expensive fertilizer than what's 439 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:08.079 on the market for farmers in the area. Yet he's 440 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:11.039 a top salesman. Who's he selling this shit too? I 441 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:13.240 want to see your seats on that shit, because yes, 442 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:17.119 this guy, I'll just say, he's got some corn pop 443 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:19.440 qualities to him. He's a bad dude and he's hanging 444 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:23.400 he's running with some bad boys. So those bad boys 445 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:28.160 definitely are behind this. In my opinion, and the evidence 446 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.720 of the fetus and the I think they turned him 447 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.799 over to the process or whoever else is fucking running 448 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:35.599 satanic rituals in that area. 449 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:37.119 I mean, this is the area. 450 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:40.960 And they were also searching fresh waterways in the foothills 451 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:44.160 of the Sierras, and made me think of all these 452 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.039 fucking program to kill people that Julie is talking about. 453 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:50.359 That's like, probably why they were looking up there is 454 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.319 because maybe that is where it happened. Places like that, 455 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.480 And why were they searching just anywhere where there's water. 456 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:00.160 Scott could have been fishing or dumping bodies. 457 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.240 Okay, but can I mean, that's a good question. What 458 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:05.079 it begs the question what else was going on and 459 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:06.200 they were looking for? Right? 460 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.400 But all right, all right, let me back it up 461 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:14.079 just a little bit. Okay, just backing up a little bit. 462 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:19.759 The day that she supposedly went missing, right, he if 463 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:24.559 he didn't do it himself, he knew she was already 464 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.359 fucking dead, or that she was about to be fucking dead. 465 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:28.480 That was part of my argument. 466 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:32.000 He comes home, he does a load of laundry for himself, 467 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:34.599 He eats a piece of pizza, He takes a shower, 468 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:38.079 he's moseying around the house. Then he calls her mom 469 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.039 and was like, Hey, if Lacy's not over there, I 470 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:41.759 guess she's. 471 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.519 Missing, which is when the nonchalant is fucked, which is. 472 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.839 When the reported nine one one call was made by 473 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:50.160 her stepfather. Yeah, I think all that can track. Scott 474 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:52.559 did not look like he was in mourning. He was 475 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:54.799 a poor an addict. He was a sex addict, and 476 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.920 he kept that shit going after all this went down. Yeah, 477 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:01.599 he doesn't do himself any favors. And yeah, this is 478 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:02.240 not about. 479 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:03.920 What he knew something was going on, right, they all 480 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:05.680 knew something was going on. The media frame he was 481 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:07.920 trying to go to Mexico. He may have been, we 482 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.119 don't know for sure. But when he dyed his hair, 483 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.400 he had his brother's driver's license, all those things, camping equipment, 484 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:15.640 and his mother bottom of a car, et cetera. When 485 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:17.240 here's the deal, the whole family knew they were in 486 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.079 that he was in some shit. Because the whole family's 487 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.319 involved in some shit, it seems right. So we look 488 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:24.559 after the like a cult, like a processed style cult, right, 489 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:27.200 dealing drugs, like just like that same area with with 490 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:29.519 the Hell's Angels, and Charles Manson with with a mathem 491 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:34.599 medesto for decades earlier. We're to assume that's an extension 492 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:36.519 of a similar network or same network. We're going to 493 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:38.680 see the same activities and patterns, and we do so 494 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:42.319 the fact that we see the family doing all these 495 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:44.440 weird things that they're helping him hide something. They've all 496 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.519 maintained his innocence, so it would indicate they all know something. 497 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.400 He indicated he knew something he knew because again he 498 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:52.000 knew that he was involved with the ship. 499 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:57.079 I mean, that's not easy to get, right, fifteen thousand. 500 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.720 In cash, well, not by your normal means. But also 501 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.599 he didn't have money on record. He was fucking up 502 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:05.079 to his eyeballs in debt, That's what I'm saying. And 503 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:08.319 he was wealthy, but it wasn't on paper because it 504 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:08.920 couldn't be. 505 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.200 So that you're saying, that's where the fifteen thousand in 506 00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:14.119 cash came from. 507 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.480 This guy's traveling around buying new shit. They were not 508 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.480 a product of wealth. Her parents had some money, yeah, 509 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:22.599 but not a lot of. 510 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:24.880 Thousand in cash. 511 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.400 All right, with that narrative that you're presenting, how do 512 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.000 you account for the fifteen k. 513 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:35.599 I'm saying, if he's got this money and he's not 514 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:39.559 the one who did it, he knew from fucking Jump 515 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:40.799 Street she was dead. 516 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:44.079 That tracks with what I'm trying to You guys are 517 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.960 read Oh yeah, that's what I agree. So have you 518 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.440 guys either read or seen Gone Girl? 519 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:50.359 Yeah? 520 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:54.000 Do you know what I think? This guy looks like 521 00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:54.720 Ben Affleck? 522 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:55.960 Yeah he does. 523 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.359 When I watched Gone Girl, I kept thinking of this case. 524 00:24:59.559 --> 00:24:59.920 Me too. 525 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.279 I was like, wait a minute, what is David Fincher, 526 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:07.880 Director of Hollywood. CIA heard saying, Because it's always David Fincher. 527 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.079 He gave us the social network, he gives us these 528 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:14.160 cut and dry fucking He used to be a great filmmaker. 529 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.880 Now he makes propaganda. And I think that that Gone 530 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:19.119 Girl was another none. 531 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:23.440 To Scott Peterson, Zodiac was kind of propaganda. 532 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:24.319 I think so too. 533 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:29.039 Zodiac's very propaganda. I think it's a totally great movie too. 534 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.759 I loved the movie. But it's just a story. 535 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:34.279 It's not it's a good story. They told us. 536 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.279 It's a fanciful tale, right. Brought to us by Robert Smith, 537 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:43.359 not Robert gray Smith. His name is Roberts gray Smith, 538 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:46.799 the Third. His father was the US Air Force colonel. 539 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.400 Did he sing in the band of the Cure. 540 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:57.720 Right the Uh, well, here, let's look at these details there. 541 00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.759 So he's lying about going on a fishing trip because 542 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.000 they don't wanting people to know he bought this secret boat. 543 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:03.640 He doesn't want Bill knows he got the secret boat 544 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:05.880 because he's umping drug stuff and you know for other 545 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.119 parties in the ocean, is what we're saying, right Colby. 546 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.599 Yeah, and why why the homemade anchors? If you just 547 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:13.880 killed your wife, you're gonna make an anchor, you'd go. 548 00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:14.359 Buy a fuck. 549 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:15.880 He lied about the anchors. 550 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:17.960 He lied about it because of what he was really doing. 551 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:20.240 He didn't want to go down for a good lie. 552 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.799 About the concrete, he said, about the concrete for his driveway. 553 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:24.440 But you're not going to tell no, I'm buying the 554 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:27.039 concrete to build these anchors to say drug you know, 555 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:31.039 you know, the the byproduct of drug, drug manufacturer. 556 00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:33.759 He's such a sitting duck for a setup. 557 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.920 He also said that when he went fishing that morning, 558 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.559 that he was using some type of silver lure. 559 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:42.839 At first, he didn't know what he was using. 560 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.839 If you if you listen to the cops, and then 561 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.200 he lied because apparently they were talking about sturgeon fishing 562 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.519 at one point. I mean, they focused a way too 563 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.480 much on that because obviously this guy's a liar. 564 00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.599 He makes himself look like dog shit because. 565 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.759 He couldn't have made himself look any guilty. Or we're 566 00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:02.519 on the same page. 567 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:05.519 Let's agree he's a liar. Let's agree that he made 568 00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:07.279 a bunch of he did lie a couple of times 569 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.839 with the police. But the overwhelming narrative is chronology events 570 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.559 that they you know, what location he was at. He 571 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.160 was still doing an activity he didn't golfing, because he's 572 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:16.480 dumping drug stuff probably, right. 573 00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.079 He had to have a cover story for what he 574 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:18.799 was doing. 575 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.480 Right, right, So, but in investigating that, they never put 576 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.279 him in any place to put him in the fundamental 577 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.200 aspect of an investigation homicide, specifically, you got you gotta 578 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.279 find your your suspect has to have a nexus point 579 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.319 with both the victim and the crime scene. They never 580 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.680 found a crime scene and nexus point or even a weapon. 581 00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:43.319 Yes, they completely tried him in the court of publicion 582 00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:48.079 with circumstantial evidence that looks horrible. There's no fucking way 583 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.000 they could have gotten a fair jury in this trial. 584 00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.079 There is no fucking way they couldn't have moved it 585 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:52.559 to the moon. 586 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:54.640 Well, and on top of this, they just made up 587 00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.279 out right, look, look, let's look at this stuff with 588 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.000 the boat, so he would he did to go fishing, 589 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:02.160 he went on the water. That was later proven they 590 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.880 used a sniffer dog, a bloodhound that was not certified, 591 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.160 that it failed at certifications, and they gave it an 592 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.920 item of clothing that had both Lacey and Scott sent 593 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.200 on it, and then they claimed that it tracked Lacey 594 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.880 down a pier where she was then taken into the water, 595 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.519 and then they showed attractor in his warehouse. Yeah, but 596 00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.720 that dog was tracking a scent item that also had 597 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.200 Scott sent on it, and nonetheless it also had failed 598 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:28.960 at certifications. And now that was approved. They brought that 599 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.680 argument up and try but again the no one was 600 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:32.359 going to listen to that. 601 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.079 Yeah they were. 602 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.200 It was on record that this dog and I find 603 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.160 this number funny. I was telling Julia last night he 604 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:43.160 was wrong sixty six percent of the time. So knowing 605 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.359 that and knowing all the witness testimony that's left out 606 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:50.440 of this trial, if you look at the circumstantial evidence 607 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.480 and you look at the stuff that wasn't admitted that 608 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.880 would make him look even like there's a possibility of 609 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.400 his innocence. Yeah, this was he was railroad. 610 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:01.279 So are you saying that him dumping the drugs in 611 00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:04.759 his boat is the reason why weeks prior to her missing. 612 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.240 Well, he's not dumping drugs. First of all, he is 613 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.839 he is. He is the guy, the chemical guy, and 614 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:12.759 so he had to get rid of that ship. Like 615 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:14.640 JJ was saying, he. 616 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.680 Dumped the byproduct, right, That's how I look at it. 617 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.960 Yeah, well I was just gonna say, is that why 618 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:26.359 prior to her missing? Uh, he was researching tides? 619 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.720 Mm hmm. He's dumping something. He's not dumping the body though. 620 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.920 He looks guilty if you know the mainstream, but you 621 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:35.400 don't know what this guy was really up to. 622 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.160 Yeah, he looks guilty. 623 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.480 If we're going along with the gone girl narrative. Though, 624 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.000 do you think the body that they found was even. 625 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:44.960 I think it's a little nod in a wink. I 626 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:45.839 don't know exactly what. 627 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:51.680 The head this wasn't find legs, arms. All they found 628 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.200 was like tits in a stomach. 629 00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.799 Yeah, that ship was fucking sacrificed to Moloch. We'll never 630 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.440 find the head. 631 00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.599 Okay, but I'm saying, like or there's a question of 632 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.599 Jordan at your question, it begs the question when they 633 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:04.680 do present later friends of evidence claiming they did DNA 634 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.640 testing and confirming it was Lacy and Connor right, the 635 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.000 baby and the mother are there, the bodies they located 636 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:11.359 the torso and then the baby. 637 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:13.960 Well, we to believe them when they've lied so many 638 00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.079 other times across the case. 639 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.599 So you're saying that might not have even. 640 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.440 Been I'm saying, I'd like to, you know, once again, 641 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:22.319 once they lie so many times, man, it's hard to 642 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:23.799 believe them when they make that. When they made that 643 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.559 conclusion later, you know, when we can point to things 644 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.440 that they demonstrated a lot about and then the state 645 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.200 would not you know, obfuscated items from the defense. For example, 646 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.440 there was much like the Coburger defense or the Casey. 647 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:41.119 The Coburger's defense requested twenty four times for discovery. In fact, 648 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.000 recently they just found out that they proved in a 649 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.440 most more recent filing, even after the guilty plea here, 650 00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.960 that the state demonstrably withheld discovery claiming they didn't have 651 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.000 it when they did in fact testified under oath that 652 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.039 they did have it later. So these things are relevant 653 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:58.480 in the Peterson situation. So the State of California hands 654 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:02.519 over discovery de Mark Garret. He goes after Peterson the 655 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.200 day after or the day of, maybe that Peterson signs 656 00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:09.920 that guilty please so, and these matters of her constantly 657 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:11.440 hiding these scenes. We look at the authority he's doing this. 658 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.599 Let me let me look. Let me bring you up 659 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.680 another case that this, this case reminds me of. So 660 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.640 this guy just got denied parole. He got fifteen years 661 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.359 of life for the murder of his wife here in 662 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:25.480 Ohio back in two thousand and eighty Ryan Whidber. 663 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.519 Right, God damn, just looking at him. 664 00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:33.920 So there was no there was no evidence in this case. 665 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.559 His wife died in the bathtub. He had a very 666 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:37.559 suspect to her. He was also cheating on his wife, 667 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:39.640 I believe, or at least trying to maybe like a 668 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.279 dating profile or something maybe, who knows. I remember that 669 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.359 precise of me. He was actually falling through her trying to. 670 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.640 But nonetheless, there was infidelity and there was no evidence 671 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.839 saying she she had a medical condition, and the claim 672 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.039 was that she had that medical condition of the seizure 673 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.240 and died in drowning in her bathtub while he was 674 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.880 downstairs watching TV. And again there was no evidence that 675 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.200 he drowned her. Again they based it was a purely 676 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.319 on this guy's scombag and etcetera, et cetera. The lead 677 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.519 detective in this this guy sits in prison. He just 678 00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.039 got to night parole just a month ago. The judge 679 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.960 in this case is the same judge that convicted him, 680 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:12.640 was the same judge in the appeals court that denied 681 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.440 all of his appeals. That should be noted because again, 682 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.000 this is a framework I think when we have these 683 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.559 these very high profile incidents. There's been so many date 684 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.200 lines in forty eight hours about this case. This happened 685 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.640 in Cincinnati again back in two thousand and eight. The detective, 686 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.960 the lead detective, was not even a credential law enforcement officer, 687 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.480 let alone a fucking detective. He had fraudulently created a 688 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.839 resume to get hired by that department was a suburban 689 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.200 department north of Cincinnati, a township department. He had fraudulently 690 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.880 applied and filled out in resume saying he was a 691 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.559 you know, law enforcement officer. Apparently no one checks these things. 692 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.279 I guess you can just claim your detective and they 693 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.799 hire you. And then he gets assigned about six months 694 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.759 in to that case, and fucking he gets found out 695 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.839 later by the defense and and argued a trial. This 696 00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:59.319 this entirely thing to get thrown out. This guy's not 697 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.720 even a fucking hop, let alone the detective. He's a fraudster, 698 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:04.680 and they convicted the man anyway. So we see a 699 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.680 lot of times where these details just simply don't matter 700 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.599 in high profile cases. I think it's important to take 701 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.400 and look at some of these high profile cases and 702 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.599 see the comparisons though, and how they ignore evidence and 703 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.079 how they then present the stuff in the in the media. 704 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.519 And we see the same kind of deal with Scott Peterson. 705 00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.920 We just saw with Ryan Widber there that he was 706 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:22.799 he was he was a cheating husband, so it was 707 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.200 an easy guy to blame in the media and then 708 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:26.039 twistings around. 709 00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:30.799 Have you heard of the Chris Watts case. 710 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.440 Yeah, yeah, you get a lot of messages to look 711 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:36.480 into that. Well. 712 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.559 I don't whether that guy's guilty or not. What I 713 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:44.480 do know is that they use the same exact script 714 00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.440 almost to a t. The only difference is the kids were. 715 00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:55.680 Alive, so uh retired Great Falls Police Police Department, Ray 716 00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.839 Falls Montanne Police Department Detective John Cameron, who wrote the 717 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.319 seminal study on Bird Wayne Edwards, the serial killer you've 718 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.359 probably never heard of. He asserts a large spectrum of 719 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.159 murders that Edward Wayne Edwards is responsible for. I assert 720 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.239 he's onto something, but adds like the general in a 721 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.280 hand of death cult, you know, like his buddy otis 722 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.519 tool that he knew right. He claims of being part 723 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.320 of the hand of Death cult. So in that regard, 724 00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:22.920 Cameron attributes these murders to ed Now he also attributes 725 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.559 the Chris Watts murders to ed So when you're saying 726 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.960 the same playbook, he's in communicator. He's trying to John 727 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.760 Cameron has done interviews in recent you know, he hasn't 728 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.440 done interviewed about six years, because he's seven years now. 729 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.000 I've been trying to get him on the podcast. We've 730 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.039 been in communications, but he seems to have been threatened 731 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.760 a lot. I think are harassed or both. But you know, 732 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.440 because he's ongoing enterprises in my in my assertion, in 733 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.519 my analysis and whatnot. And you know, he's he's been 734 00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.039 in contact with Wayne Williams defense, Chris Watts defense. This 735 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.000 guy's trying to tell folks that these people have been 736 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:56.639 framed using the same the same playbook. He's saying, it's 737 00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:58.400 the ED playbook. I think he's onto something. I think 738 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:00.000 Ed was in charge of that playbook. 739 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.159 And it's an older playbook too somebody else. 740 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.480 It's a very CIA chaos playbook because adds documented to 741 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.199 be part of the CIA Project Chaos stuff like. 742 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:12.320 Ed and Ted. 743 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.440 So you're thinking that's what happened with Lacey. 744 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.360 I'm thinking it was not something that could just coincidentally 745 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.519 have happened, and it's not fucking tied to all this 746 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:25.960 stuff that we do know went on in that same 747 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.719 area for decades and it doesn't even matter because what. 748 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:31.039 It still goes on today. 749 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.519 Right, So I don't know what was your question. 750 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:40.400 You think that this is like a blueprint. 751 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.800 Yeah, I think that if the husband from him, I 752 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:44.320 think if the. 753 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:48.920 Late great David McGowan hadn't met his demise, however that 754 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:53.239 may have happened, that he would have got onto this 755 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.639 stuff and he would have continued his program to kill 756 00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:57.840 work and he would have pointed out these networks because 757 00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:58.960 it's the same fucking thing. 758 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.320 Well, I'm trying to think of other stuff that people 759 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.880 bring up about the case that makes him look guilty. 760 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.280 Oh, there's there's loads of it. 761 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:11.199 I mean sites Amber Fry, which they love to point 762 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.599 out about that he would say stuff like, oh, I'm 763 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:18.920 not I haven't even been in the nursery. I can't 764 00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.239 even stand to look at it. And then when they 765 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.760 served the second search warrant, they found that he took 766 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:24.960 all the baby stuff out. 767 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:26.280 Yeah, he turned into storage. 768 00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.280 Then he sold her car, he put the house up 769 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.519 for sale. This does not this is This is not 770 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.119 a man. This guy in his pregnant wife. 771 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.199 He probably already grieved before the press even knew any 772 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.480 of this has happened. And I think that this guy 773 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.760 was in bug out mode. He's waiting for this ship 774 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.880 to die down. If it's going to he's gonna fucking 775 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:46.599 get out. 776 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:47.800 And he tried. 777 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:52.480 Family knows shit shit is it the fan? Yeah, they 778 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.840 probably their lives. They don't know, they don't know where 779 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:55.599 it's gonna end. 780 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.519 And they don't know that if Scott goes down, that 781 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.480 he's not gonna fucking talk. They probably wake up every 782 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.639 morning going is today the day the Scott really says 783 00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.480 what happened and implicates all of us. 784 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:09.400 And that's probably part of it too. Man. So let's 785 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.119 look at something. I'm gonna answer both of your allose 786 00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:12.880 points there if I may, And let's look at some 787 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.639 of the chronology of events here. So you know, uh, 788 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.360 he for example, he was renting cars and going to 789 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:19.679 the bay when they were doing these searches. Well, he 790 00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.079 didn't want to go there in his own car. I mean, 791 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.440 obviously it looks suspicious. But at the same time, you know, 792 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.519 he knows they're trying to frame him. I mean, if 793 00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.079 you know you're trying to frame I'm prop up my 794 00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.239 mind in his mind, my brain holding his brain, if 795 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.920 you will. And uh, if they're trying to frame him, 796 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.960 well he's want to go see what's going on over there. 797 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:37.280 He's not just gonna be like, oh, I'm just gonna 798 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.039 let them go do these things. Right, Like again, the 799 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.119 whole family's an alert, the whole family. So she disappears 800 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.400 on well, first of all, we see the same comparison 801 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.480 with Brian Koberg before he's even indicted. In January and 802 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.119 February of twenty twenty three, they're telling the whole America 803 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.519 the media is that he's murdered other people. They got 804 00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:59.239 a they're saying he's a suspect of murders in Pennsylvania 805 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.960 and Georgia and fucking all sorts of ship. He's a new 806 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.760 Ted Bundy, right, they're claiming that too. So we see 807 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.480 the same thing with with Scott Peterson. They blamed before 808 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.760 he before the trial even began. Him and him and 809 00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:15.559 Lacey met at cal Poly University there and two years 810 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.519 after they met there, this student was murdered there. Now 811 00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.440 everyone's always known it was her boyfriend, and he's since 812 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.079 been arrested with her father, that Paul Flores guy. But 813 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.280 the media at the time, you know that they wouldn't 814 00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.280 arrested at the time he went rested. In recent years, 815 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.480 I'm saying law enforcement knew who it was, but the 816 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:32.760 media is telling everybody that Scott Peterson did this murder. 817 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.800 So we see again this this this kind of pattern 818 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.599 of behavior, right, this framework so smart. 819 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:40.760 I've never heard of that. 820 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:44.599 Really, Oh yeah, she was she That was the big 821 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.159 media headlines is, oh h, Scott Peterson murders after April 822 00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:52.000 when they found her the torso right, Scott Scott Peterson 823 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.440 murder his wife April two thousand and two, Scott or 824 00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.920 two thousand and three. I apologize Scott Peterson murder his 825 00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.760 wife and now he's a suspect on the disappearance of 826 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.199 another college student from there, from their university where they 827 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.159 were at, where they met. 828 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:04.800 JJ. 829 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:06.960 I want to ask you something real quick. Just this 830 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.000 picture of Lacy that you had just had up there. 831 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.719 Julia and I last night were wondering, are there any 832 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:17.760 pictures of her full term pregnant, because everything is like this, 833 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:19.079 it's from the chest up. 834 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.760 I've only ever seen one, sir. Yes, I know. Your 835 00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.480 theory is this is this is not a real person. 836 00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:28.880 I know. I like addressing all these theories as we're 837 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:29.280 going through that. 838 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.000 Well, they could easily fake a pregnant photo. That's the 839 00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:32.960 other thing, Like, hey. 840 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.199 Well we just talked about how with JJ, actually how 841 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.280 they have fake bumps and fake fucking all kinds of 842 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:41.480 stuff with pregnant women. 843 00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.800 Watch a movie where someone's watch Megan Markle walking around, Well. 844 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.280 Just don't watch that movie with Charlie stair On because 845 00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.400 she gained a sixty pound beer belly and she's not 846 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:56.280 wear a fake fake baby bump. Totally totally is it maybe. 847 00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.480 Oh yeah, I've only ever seen one other photo than 848 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.639 this one where she laying and appears to be full term, 849 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.159 and she's laying down on a couch and you can 850 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.360 kind of see the belly hanging out of a T shirt. 851 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.760 That could even be angle. Think of a woman not pregnant. 852 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:13.679 She's got her feet up on an ottoman right now. 853 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.119 Picture this if you will. All I'm saying is I 854 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.000 don't see like a picture out there where she's eight 855 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:19.760 months pregnant. 856 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:21.599 You say you have seen one, though. 857 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.840 I'll find it. I'll find it. What I'm referring to I. 858 00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.800 Like, because no, I'm just asking you to think about this. 859 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.079 In nineteen ninety six, Pamela Anderson starred in the film 860 00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.320 Barbed Wire, and she they superimposed some of her face 861 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.199 on some other lady's body, even though allegedly even though 862 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.960 Pamela Anderson imposed naked or playboy and she didn't want 863 00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.480 to pose, you know, be nude in this this new 864 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.960 film for Hollywood. So we know that technology allegedly exists 865 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:48.400 to do these things. We saw the same thing with 866 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.559 Brandon Lee and Crow right allegedly at least right well, 867 00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.519 they're superimposing these things at real time on can't well, 868 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:56.000 why can't they do that? In two thousand and she 869 00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.159 on pictures? Right, that could be any lady's body, right, 870 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.119 John Banay, I know you're a big man of the 871 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.400 John Bena case there, Julia. Well uh. In the book 872 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:11.400 by Gary Singular, he writes about the at the time 873 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:14.760 they had hired a hacker the Prosecutor's office there, I 874 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.800 think was the PD my apology, No, the news did 875 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:19.360 the news hire the local news hired a hacker to 876 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:21.480 show them what was going on with this child pornography 877 00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.760 stuff around these beauty pageants, and they were taking actual 878 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.039 photographs of the young girls and then superimposing their faces 879 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.840 on new girl young girl's body. So they had found 880 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.360 evidence of such with John Banay, I believe of taking 881 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.719 evidence of her picture being distributed like that with you know, 882 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.320 super impost allegedly, right. 883 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.239 Yeah, one hundred one hundred. 884 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.400 Well, I've seen the pictures. I'm just saying this is 885 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.119 what reporting. Gary Singlers pre trustworthy source and in regards 886 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:50.199 to reporting. 887 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:52.760 Yeah, well, I was just going to say, if we 888 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:56.519 go on the theory that Lacy this whole thing is 889 00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.800 staged and it never happened. I haven't seen one ultra 890 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.239 sound picture. I never saw one iota of a baby 891 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:08.559 anything in this entire case. Like if I died tomorrow 892 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.199 and I was murdered and they found my fucking carcass somewhere, 893 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:18.119 I have so many pictures that they could show my belly. 894 00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:23.039 They could, They would show my ultrasound. They would show 895 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:26.880 like just to you know how they like to traumatize 896 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.239 people and make it so personal, like this is the 897 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.119 baby that he killed, Look look at the ultrasound or 898 00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:37.000 like any baby anything. There was none of that with Lacy. 899 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.039 Speaking of which, Julia brought up an interesting point that 900 00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.000 I didn't know about last night while we were talking 901 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.559 about this, because since we'reund the baby stuff, she told 902 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.480 me that the fucking nursery theme was boats and a 903 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:53.440 life raft, like a life saver rig that yeah you. 904 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.480 Want, and a life raft. 905 00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:57.960 I got a picture. 906 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.280 What poetic irony right there. 907 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.960 If it's staged, that's part of the exactly. 908 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.760 Maybe that working room wind never had shit in it 909 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.760 and it was storaged for a while. 910 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:10.480 Who knows. 911 00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:16.320 So that this is the family of Peterson runs this 912 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:22.440 website Scott Peterson appeal dot org, and they have the 913 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.760 they have they have the case summarias and facts, appeal information, 914 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.639 et cetera. And they have all this information timelines, et cetera. 915 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:29.800 So we can look at some of this stuff in 916 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.320 that boat and the Lacey sidings. Right again, some of 917 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.960 the evidence that was ignored not entered into evidence. Again, 918 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.800 So what we're saying here also in regards to if 919 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.079 this was all, you know, a kind of a fictional event, 920 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.960 right to distract from us someone that something else in 921 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.000 this maybe drug network. You know, let's let's just say, 922 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:47.800 let's me impose this for example, what this is. My 923 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:49.519 brain holds that as you're just saying these things, like, 924 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:51.960 you know, something goes on this drug network and they 925 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.239 got to do something to distract things from it. Right, 926 00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:56.480 so they run a you know, fake operation of sorts 927 00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:59.039 for whatever reason that we don't the unknown reason they 928 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.800 have to do it, motivations behind it. But I can 929 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.280 make that same argument for the IA four cases because 930 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.000 again there's no evidence there are they running that operation 931 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.440 deflect from something else within this Iran contra kind of 932 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.400 drugged smuggling processed Churchy and efforts. Because there's connection to 933 00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.599 all of that with Idaho Contra, as I call it, 934 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.239 so I think that's interesting to note because if we're 935 00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.239 gonna look at that and take that into consideration, well, 936 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.880 then the family's still part of it by running this 937 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.280 shit right, by even running this website and shit right. 938 00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.159 Yes, And I just was a little tangent. I was 939 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.880 going to bring it up a little while but ago 940 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.440 when Amber came up, she was exonerated as soon as 941 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.880 the cops found out about her. They heard her story out. 942 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.280 This is what they say, they heard her story out. 943 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.239 They publicly announce Amber Fry has come forward, she's done 944 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:45.000 honest with us. 945 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.119 We're exonerating her. 946 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:49.400 She's not a suspect, but she lawyers up and gets 947 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:54.119 this high profile celebrity lawyer. Why did she lawyer up? 948 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.960 They say, we are not looking into her whatsoever. She's 949 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:01.119 cooperating with us. There's the prego pic. 950 00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.000 Yeah, I mean that's an interesting point, man, It's an 951 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:06.679 interesting point. 952 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.639 Well, in your opinion, why would in these circumstances that 953 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:13.320 they set for set out for us, why does she 954 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:13.880 need to. 955 00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:18.639 I mean, I agree, it's not a strong there's not 956 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:20.239 a strong case for to get an attorney that in 957 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:21.559 that respect, and this. 958 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.639 High profile celebrity attorney. 959 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.320 Yeah, And By the way, this this high profile celebrity 960 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:32.360 attorney approached her and said, I will represent you for. 961 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.320 Free, and it does scream. 962 00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:36.360 You know, well, you have to take that in concider 963 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.760 in the contexts and circumstances. Also, I may because you 964 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.559 have to understand that what they used her for in 965 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:42.800 the prosecution. So they had her do all these secret 966 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:46.760 phone calls, which, by the way, it's California's two party 967 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:47.440 consent state. 968 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:53.199 I'm just saying, there you go, the mel Gibsondom. 969 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.079 Right or or that or the Clippers owner remember that one. 970 00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.199 Oh yes, do I listen, that racist son of a 971 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.639 bitch right the attorney. 972 00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:11.400 You'll you'll like this JJ, the attorney that represented Amber. 973 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:17.880 He's an all red Mormon. Fucking Gloria. Oh it was Gloria. 974 00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:18.760 I know. 975 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:21.679 Yeah, it's either her daughter. I couldn't remember which one 976 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.599 it was. They're always involved in these That's what I'm saying. 977 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.360 She started unpacking the anatomy of these high profile events. 978 00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:29.079 You start seeing these patterns of the same people in activities. 979 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.119 Dude, when you told me it was a high profile celebrity, 980 00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:34.960 like I said, she told me this last night, I 981 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.400 didn't know it was Gloria. That just adds credence to 982 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.480 the sensationalization. 983 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:39.199 Of the trial. 984 00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:40.400 All Red. 985 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.000 They also, I've seen Nancy Grace go off about this case, 986 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:49.199 and all she does is say he's guilty, he was 987 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.480 a he was a philandering cheater, and it's like, okay, 988 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.719 but where's the evidence of him killing her? You're just 989 00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.400 taught you're doing character defamation here. You're not laying out 990 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.960 a compelling case that he's guilty. Just like we told 991 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.159 you he's guilty. He did this, this, this, and this. 992 00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.280 We don't need to talk about real evidence. 993 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.320 Well, I think that's I think that's when Nancy Grace 994 00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.159 came on the stage, was in this case, right. 995 00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:11.800 Mm hmm. I think it's one of the things that 996 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:12.440 brought her to. 997 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.880 National public public mindset. Huhm. 998 00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.280 Is there a picture of the crib by itself? 999 00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.039 JJ Let me let me look a here, because that's where. 1000 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.400 She had like all the little boat stuff and like 1001 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:30.840 the life preserver raft. Yes, ma'am, that is not that 1002 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:32.920 is not traditional baby stuff. 1003 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.199 Yeah. I mean, I understand we're saying that. I'm not 1004 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.159 I'm not just crediting it. I do like, unlike your 1005 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.639 brain holds out on this theory, but they again their 1006 00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.119 first day was fishing, was a big fisherman. 1007 00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:46.480 It tracks, but it just adds a little twist to them. 1008 00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:48.719 I feel like it adds to the twist of this 1009 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.400 is staged as fucked, just like how they brought up 1010 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:57.440 Martha's Stewart and how the episode of Martha Stewart that 1011 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:01.000 she was supposedly watching that morning about make merangue pie 1012 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.480 or whatever, and they had to play that episode for 1013 00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:05.119 everybody in the court. 1014 00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:08.159 I believe it was krimberlet it was merangue pie. 1015 00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:10.159 Well, I heard another story where he was going to 1016 00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:12.079 be making she was going to be making French toast. 1017 00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.119 I mean it depends on another story that she was 1018 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.000 supposed to be making a gingerbread fucking house. 1019 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.119 And he calls her about getting a fruit basket. 1020 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.320 I mean, they really build up this big Christmas dinner 1021 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.599 that tragically is going on. 1022 00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:26.880 There is a lot of that. There is a lot 1023 00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:28.840 of narrative building that goes on around both sides in 1024 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:30.400 this case. You don't make us some good points. So 1025 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.360 if we we're just if we can go past the 1026 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.079 lies and just want to point out that his family 1027 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:36.639 does make a good argument for all these lies and 1028 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.480 points out the only that he lies the police about 1029 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:40.880 is that golf fishing instead of golfing, and Amber fry 1030 00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:44.320 and is an accurate statement. And they didn't have even well, 1031 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.400 I have a clip from GARYT. Goos and Gang. They 1032 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:48.599 even point out there is no gaps in his chronology 1033 00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:49.360 of events that day. 1034 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:51.800 Yeah. 1035 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.400 And also I think the thing with Amber getting an attorney, 1036 00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.440 I think Amber is a liar too. I think Amber 1037 00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.320 knew he was married and then when this missing person 1038 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.679 thing came to attend to choose like, oh fuck. 1039 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.679 Well now now you're gonna bring Now you're dancing to 1040 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.519 my territory of theory, sir, so, I think Scott Peterson, 1041 00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.880 like much like many people involved in these high profile 1042 00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.679 events that are being framed as Patsy's and situations, are 1043 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.960 part of a sex cult. I'm not gonna say it's 1044 00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.920 specifically Theleymaker process, but let's take for example, this is 1045 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.000 the theory of John Cameron and the overarching theory of 1046 00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:26.360 how ed Edwards operates is he infiltrates folks lives through 1047 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.960 faking to be a doctor of psychiatry, which the CIA 1048 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.079 gave him credentials for back in nineteen fifty five and 1049 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:35.400 was reissued numerous times after prison stents. By the way, uh, 1050 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.480 doctor James Garfield Langley was his name, that was his credentials. 1051 00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.159 He even got married under the name on the same 1052 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:41.880 day he got married with the name ed Edwards. That's 1053 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:45.119 weird because we're both those wives are filed in Idaho 1054 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:48.239 at the same time, same judges and magistrates and same 1055 00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:49.440 stamps too. Weird. 1056 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:51.880 Do they just think of these nicknames on a whim 1057 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.000 or these suit. 1058 00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.360 They're not creative, right, doctor James James Garfield president and 1059 00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.119 then Langley the headquarters of the CIA. 1060 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:02.079 Right, We'll never know what it really means whenever. Oh, 1061 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.320 I never put together really. 1062 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.079 In Cameron in Camera's book on Edwards, he does point 1063 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.719 out a number of cases where Edwards is caught framing 1064 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:14.599 people and testifying or providing uh information the police as 1065 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:18.719 informants against the murders he commits. So in these theories, 1066 00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:22.880 if he's set up and he set up, Camera makes 1067 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:26.199 a very strong case for this one because it's the 1068 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.760 Ed's psychosis or psychopathy was diagnosed at the age of thirteen. 1069 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.440 When he was also diagnosed and given an IQ test 1070 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:35.960 of one hundred and thirty two. Psychopathy was rooted in 1071 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.480 this the fact that he was creating a lover's lane 1072 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:40.079 situation in the back of a car in a one 1073 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.960 night stand and he and he attacked folks of infidelity 1074 00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:47.360 and set up cheating spouses, and he'd been caught doing 1075 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.360 this in the other cases by camera. So camer you know, 1076 00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:51.679 draw some comparisons to this one and says this has 1077 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.039 got a lot of ed stuff on it. But again, 1078 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:54.760 I'm not saying it is that. I'm saying it adds 1079 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:56.079 a network at least, right, So. 1080 00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:58.840 He's talking about Peterson when he says that. 1081 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.440 Yeah, the key there is he would have inserted himself 1082 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.000 into Scott Peterson's life. Noticed let's say, for example, he's 1083 00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:07.920 Peterson's part of this cult network that AD's part of. 1084 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:09.880 So that's how he initially gets even brought in to 1085 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.760 even find a patsy to set up find finds a 1086 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.079 patsy that fits his domo, that's a cheating his spouse, 1087 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.239 because it's easy then to blame that person first and 1088 00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:20.440 foremost it fits eds, you know, fit is you know, 1089 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.079 mental fucking health issues by framing somebody of something he hates, right, 1090 00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:25.880 So you know, there's a lot to be said about 1091 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:27.480 in those things. But let's say he isn't a cult. Well, 1092 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:29.440 that's how we ed got ed or whoever set up 1093 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:33.360 Scott Peterson got involved in it, and Scott's Peterson's involved 1094 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.000 in this drug distribution aspect of manufacturing, Well, then it's 1095 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:37.960 not that big of a jump. I don't think to 1096 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:39.480 assume he's in a sex cult when he's got all 1097 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:45.239 these you know, female partners. We're processing cell situation, right. 1098 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.639 So what's your opinion, Amber then, because you said as 1099 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:48.880 dancing in your brain hole. 1100 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.920 On that, I think she's a whore. I think she's 1101 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.519 a she's a dirty whore. And I think she was 1102 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.239 used for by the state for the state's ends, and 1103 00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.280 I think most of what she said later was to 1104 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.920 fit their narrative. And she did all these recordings with 1105 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.079 him after between December and April that she did all 1106 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.320 these recordings, and you know, none of the ship even 1107 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.760 he says, seems in the kat he was guilty of 1108 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:11.960 anything other than being a you know, cheating spouse and 1109 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.679 a bitch Peterson. 1110 00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.559 And a fucking processing and drug runner. 1111 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:18.880 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's a perfect He's a 1112 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.039 perfect Patsy so you know he's a dumb and depraved. 1113 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:24.679 We know those things, right, He's not and he's not intelligent, 1114 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.159 and we know he's depraved. So's if it's the mold 1115 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.639 of somebody would be involved in that. He's got a 1116 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:33.440 number of cheating with a number of women, that's another characteristic, 1117 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:35.559 then we could throw in that bucket. Seems to be 1118 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.840 involved in the math production. That again, Charles Manson and 1119 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:42.159 the Hell's Angels were doing Meth and Modesto fifty sixty 1120 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.440 years ago, right seven years ago now, so times haven't 1121 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.440 changed much. I think it may still be the same network. 1122 00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.679 And speaking of the Idaho for the victim's family, Kaylee Gounzalvez, 1123 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.920 her father who wears Hell's they do family photos with 1124 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.000 Hell's Angel stuff on, and their family photos up there 1125 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.159 in Quarterley in Idaho, you know, a few miles away 1126 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.800 from that Arian Nation's compound. Those Nazis, you know, no 1127 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.480 big deal. Uh, They're from Methdesto and his brother is 1128 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.159 a confirmed Nazi in prison for murder. So I don't 1129 00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:11.840 know that all of these things are all that disconnected. 1130 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.400 Well, if I can just be honest with you, Amber 1131 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:24.800 looks like I mean Lacey was beautiful if she was 1132 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.280 a real person. But they pull out these pictures of 1133 00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.199 Amber and then you see her and it's like, where 1134 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.679 the fuck did you get this one from? She looked 1135 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.400 like she she had like bleached blonde hair, big blue eyes. 1136 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:40.280 You know, she lived like they may have found her 1137 00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.440 in the valley doing porn with that twin raised lady. 1138 00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.119 Yeah, that's what I'm saying is she looked like a 1139 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.400 porn star, didn't. 1140 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.360 She like the girl next door? Now search, No, then 1141 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:57.559 your porn searches the girl. What's that said? 1142 00:53:57.559 --> 00:53:59.079 The trailer park next door. 1143 00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.840 The girl of the next trailer Yeah, the. 1144 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.119 Double, the double whye down the street. Say, even in 1145 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:06.920 the idea that this is a fictional event, I mean know, 1146 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:08.840 how where else would you find a compromise individual to 1147 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:13.400 play the port the porn industry great spot, neving to 1148 00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:15.280 recruit somebody for that role, it's a great spot. 1149 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.719 She really does look like that, though, And then her 1150 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:23.039 attorney like, I said, I'll represent you for free glow. 1151 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.639 Yetto why I didn't know that was her? That's blowing 1152 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:28.119 my mind. 1153 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:33.239 Yeah, I'd like to look at a couple of clips 1154 00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:36.000 from Garry Gos, you know the guy who represented Peterson, 1155 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.760 who maintains innocence today and has made some comments recently 1156 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.400 since Peterson's case has been picked up, uh by the 1157 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:46.559 La Innocence Project, which is different than the original Innocence Project. 1158 00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.639 But back to this whole network, what's that, sir. 1159 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:52.800 I said in the Innocence Project, would be the very 1160 00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:54.639 first to tell you that's not us. 1161 00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:56.960 They I know they do, right. I think that's a 1162 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.599 good thing to differentiate. So we see the Innocence Projects 1163 00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.119 born out of the Orenthal James Simpson case and is 1164 00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:05.719 not his dream team, his nightmare team. And we see 1165 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:07.599 a lot of bullshit around that connecting to the Idaho 1166 00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.639 four case too. Just saying, but we see this this 1167 00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:14.719 organization by his attorney, Barry Shrek, was was created to 1168 00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:18.960 suddenly use all this new fangled technologies and forensic evidence 1169 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.760 in dnaight a dexignery folks. And when they've since nineteen 1170 00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.440 ninety two or when they created themselves there I think 1171 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.199 of exonerated less than two hundred people. 1172 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:29.519 This is from the OJ trial. 1173 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.039 That's where I was born out of. Really, So Barry 1174 00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.800 Shrek started the project right before the Orentthal James Simpson 1175 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.039 case and then joined that team and this was really 1176 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.000 propelled into the international fame of. 1177 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:43.440 This project, but the one that represents Scott indifferent. 1178 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:45.760 Yeah, that's the LA Innocence Projects. 1179 00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:51.840 That's correct. Yes, yep, so this the original Innocence Project, 1180 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.360 took in twenty million dollars in twenty twenty and that's 1181 00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:56.920 a lot of money. And the way they spent it's 1182 00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:57.760 very interesting. 1183 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:03.480 And no, you go ahead after we're done talking about 1184 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.599 the Innocence Project and get back to the LA. I'll 1185 00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:07.039 make money. 1186 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:08.239 Yeah, I just want to get it. I just want 1187 00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:09.480 to get a quick I want to make sure my 1188 00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:11.039 numbers is correc because I haven't loked ATI in a 1189 00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:12.639 few years, but I feel like a number of years 1190 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.039 ago they had like two hundred and thirty eight total exoneration. 1191 00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.880 So it's it's important to consider that because no one 1192 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:23.679 wants liability. The states don't want liability. Uh the I 1193 00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:25.159 heard we go, I'm sorry, I was off by a 1194 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.800 factor of ten. It's twenty nine and thirty nine convicted 1195 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:32.719 defendants who were exonerated through DNA. So you know, that's 1196 00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:36.239 important to note though, because what are they doing with 1197 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.840 all that money and no state? No state? So let's 1198 00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:41.440 to say Scott Peterson did not do it. Is again, 1199 00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:44.440 as I started off this conversation, that's my position. Well, 1200 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.800 he would sue the State of California when Main's dollars, 1201 00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:48.719 just like Steven Avery did right when he when he 1202 00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.920 did that in Wisconsin. So these ideas of the innocence 1203 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:53.840 projects are a fucking are part of the syop In 1204 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.239 my opinion, there's no one trying to exonerate anybody. And 1205 00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.679 that's the same thing John Cameron argues about Ed Edwards 1206 00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.519 is the he was informed was in an FBI informant 1207 00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:05.840 from nineteen fifty one, a CIA operator from nineteen fifty five, 1208 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.840 and a domestic terror campaign operations of Project Chaos like 1209 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.880 his friend Charles Manson, And so no one's gonna say 1210 00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:13.639 anying about the No one wants say anything about Ed 1211 00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.079 first and foremost, and secondly, no one wants to attribute 1212 00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:17.960 any murders to him because he's put people in prison 1213 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:22.039 in those terror operations. People got executed for murders they 1214 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.679 did not commit, just like Scott Peterson could is in 1215 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:27.719 case the fact that he fits that same mold as 1216 00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.280 I was saying before with Ed and his network. So 1217 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:34.480 I'm just saying there there's no motivations to exonerate anybody 1218 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:36.239 or do any of these innocence projects. I was kind 1219 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.320 of shocked that anyone took up Peterson's case. 1220 00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.960 Well, and you had to get into that he actually 1221 00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:44.920 reached out to them, and the story goes. And I 1222 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:47.639 do believe the evidence that they're talking about right now, 1223 00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.199 because I mentioned earlier JJ said there was ten witnesses 1224 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:54.880 that saw the dog walk and one that stuck out 1225 00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.000 to me. I know about three of them in particular. 1226 00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.639 One guy was gassing up his car, saw Lacy walking by, 1227 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:04.079 described similar clothes to another guy that saw on the 1228 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:08.079 same street, remembers looking at the dog side note dog 1229 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:12.480 star dogs come up way too fucking often in this drive. No, 1230 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:17.320 but anyway, so they see her and then a woman. 1231 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:19.679 I think this is the most damning evidence of all 1232 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:25.639 sees an orange Van sees at the Medina household on 1233 00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:28.800 the twenty fourth. This is her testimony. She drives by 1234 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.280 real slow, she's old. She said she wouldn't have looked twice. 1235 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.159 But there is two nefarious guys who seemed to fit 1236 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:39.599 the description of these two that did admit they robbed 1237 00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:43.599 the home. So she says as she passes by. She 1238 00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.960 looks and in her mirror she sees a woman, a 1239 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:51.960 woman squatting down and urinating next to the van, and 1240 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.079 then an arm reaches out and grabs her and pulls 1241 00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:55.360 her in. 1242 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.000 Have you heard that direct? If I may, that's a 1243 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:00.840 brown van there, right, because that's part of the confusion 1244 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:01.440 that's been going on. 1245 00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.199 I've noticed in this case it was orange when I 1246 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:04.639 heard it. 1247 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:06.639 Oh, I think, well, I think the orange van is 1248 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.119 the new piece of evidence they've introduced to this innocence project, 1249 00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:11.000 stuff that the law enforcement never tested. And I got 1250 00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:13.360 a clip on that. The van I think that was 1251 00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.679 the connected to the robbers was a tan or brown van, 1252 00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:17.400 if I'm not mistaken, but that's I believe that's the 1253 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.119 one from You may be right. It may be in 1254 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:20.679 the orange van. This lady's seen to that, but there 1255 00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:24.960 was The police initially claimed they had cleared the robbers, 1256 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:28.559 the burglars and their van, but and there was a 1257 00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:30.440 lot of confusion that was then later made about that 1258 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.679 orange van. No, you're right, So the state tried to 1259 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.599 conflate these vans and they did a good job of it. 1260 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:39.199 So the states, the state said brown or tan, No, 1261 00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:39.519 there was. 1262 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:41.440 Two different vans, and they try to make everyone believe 1263 00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:43.320 that pay no attention to the orange van with the 1264 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:44.280 blood in it, right. 1265 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:45.920 Yeah, a bloody mattress. 1266 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:48.079 And I got a clip on that from the guy 1267 00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.000 who found it, from the firefighter who found it. So 1268 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.119 I was wrong. There was actually twenty four sidings within 1269 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:54.960 her normal one mile readies of her home, of her 1270 00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:55.480 dog walk. 1271 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:59.800 There were more in court. Gegus, you fucking probably did not. 1272 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.159 This is the first time I'm hearing about twenty four sightings. 1273 01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:07.880 Me too, But the three that I know about, yeah, obviously. 1274 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:10.599 They reported the proper, proper clothing she was last seeing 1275 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:13.400 eating breakfast with that morning with Scott, and they reported 1276 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.159 the dog and they'd seen her before this was her 1277 01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:23.000 normal route. So that's very interesting, right, we got all 1278 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:25.679 these you know you know again, the state, I mean, 1279 01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:27.800 the state's timeline again has so many problems because they 1280 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.519 started arguing with timeline that they later changed throughout the 1281 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:32.920 course of their even fucking trial. Man, it's just so weird. 1282 01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.360 Well, uh, I just wanted to say something really quick 1283 01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:42.599 on Colby's point. Let's just say that this is all 1284 01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:48.079 fake and staged. Yeah, engaged, Okay, but let's just say that, right, 1285 01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:53.079 And like the weirdness around, like where's the ultrasound pictures? 1286 01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:53.679 Why was? 1287 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:58.559 Why is there conflicting information about the tourso versus the 1288 01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:00.880 all of it? Let's just say it's all fake and 1289 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:04.000 that's why it doesn't make sense. And you mentioned how 1290 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.280 often the dog comes up in this case. Guess what 1291 01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:08.960 the name Connor means? 1292 01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:11.079 What Irish dog? 1293 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:12.679 Lover of hounds? 1294 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.159 Come on, lover of hounds? 1295 01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:18.239 All right, Julia, can I ask you at this point, 1296 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:19.639 I'm dying to know are you still? 1297 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.519 Where are you at? 1298 01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:24.000 This is all theater? 1299 01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:27.000 Okay, but let's pretend. Let's pretend it's real. 1300 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:27.400 Though. 1301 01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:28.599 Is he the killer? 1302 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:29.760 No? 1303 01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:32.320 I did it? JJ? 1304 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:33.519 We're not even done yet. 1305 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.760 Nice. Well, I'm I'm with you. I'm trying to think 1306 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:38.159 this is not this may not be real because we 1307 01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:41.480 were talking about high profile celebrity attorneys. I mean, look 1308 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:43.559 at look, so we got all right on one side, 1309 01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:46.119 we got Garry gos on the other. You know, he's 1310 01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:49.800 he was already defending Michael Jackson before this trial, right, 1311 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.920 the Jackson attorney later. I might have gotten those mistakes. 1312 01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:56.360 I don't know. 1313 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:58.920 I think it was before. And Robert Downey Jr. As Well, 1314 01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.440 I mean this guy was yeah. 1315 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.719 Yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, when Robert Downey Junior woke 1316 01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.239 up in his neighbor's son's bed, Oh yeah that's normal. 1317 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.280 Yeah that was the Now he's a vegan, fucking Tello 1318 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:10.599 and also all how to live. 1319 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:11.400 Fuck that guy. 1320 01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.280 Junior wakes up down down Malibu Beach and not even 1321 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.639 his next door neighbor, just down the beach neighbor's bed 1322 01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.119 of the like their twelve year old son, and he's like, oh, 1323 01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:22.199 I thought this was my bed. Then go fuck yourself. 1324 01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:26.159 Rob When you said that thing about the Dog Star, 1325 01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.039 well yeah, the Connor thing. I didn't even know about. 1326 01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:30.400 Lover of Hounds. 1327 01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:34.079 Yeah that's wild, dude. Well, I mean everyone, No, that's 1328 01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.840 a great All these all these ancient alien cargo cult 1329 01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.559 fuckers they all love serious so the Dog Star. So 1330 01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:41.280 that's a it's an interesting point. 1331 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:42.800 Fuck. 1332 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:46.800 So here Garrett Goes is gonna tell us about this 1333 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:50.320 new La Innosent project here, and then he's gonna he's 1334 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:52.519 gonna go over some of the salient characteristics of why 1335 01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:56.239 the state uh their their bullshit case and the evidence 1336 01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.400 that they didn't have against Peterson and the evidence and 1337 01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.760 his you know e sculpatory evidence if you will. 1338 01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:04.559 It's important, trial Mark, thanks so much for being with us. 1339 01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:08.400 I'm way too fast, my apologies. I could probably play 1340 01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:09.960 as in almost speed I think on the news nation 1341 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.159 probably Yeah. 1342 01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:14.159 I think we're allowed to show the narrative to point 1343 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.039 out that I hope So America that picked up this 1344 01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:21.360 case is a completely separate entity from the story reputable 1345 01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:22.440 Innocence Project that. 1346 01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:26.519 We are, the storied reputable Innocence Project in your mind 1347 01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:28.000 and the strength of this fight. 1348 01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.440 No, not really. The Innocence Project that picked up this 1349 01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.480 case was formed a couple of years ago when Los 1350 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.280 Angeles and has a somebody who used to be at 1351 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:45.039 a project the Loyal Law School where I went, pears 1352 01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:46.239 that they've been doing. 1353 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.719 I was going to I was just I got lost 1354 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:50.119 in the swite. 1355 01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:51.599 I interrupted you. 1356 01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:54.960 I interrupted you because this is all sideways, right, just 1357 01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:56.239 like his fucking bookshelf. 1358 01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:57.920 What the fuck kind of bookshelf is that? 1359 01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:05.639 Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe like you No, I 1360 01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:07.280 mean again, dude, I don't have a lot of faith 1361 01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.000 in this. Dude is being a good attorney. Like I said, 1362 01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:11.039 you know the statements you make about he left a 1363 01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:12.480 lot of shit out by putting on a good show. 1364 01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:14.360 I would say that saying about Annan Sailor's. 1365 01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:15.880 All right if this is fake, I just want to 1366 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.239 say I said he looked so much like Ben Affleck 1367 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.239 with the Gone Girl thing. That could fucking be Ben 1368 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.559 Affleck playing this role with the fucking little double chin 1369 01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:26.639 added with some prosthetics. I mean, honestly, I'd like to 1370 01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:29.039 do an ear compared. I like you, dude, because this 1371 01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:30.960 could be Ted Bundy Jack Nicholson style. 1372 01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:31.239 Shit. 1373 01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:34.440 What you're saying is in this Gone Girl theory, sir, 1374 01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:37.320 you're saying that the Gone Girl movie was depicting in 1375 01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:39.599 real life events and they're just kind of bragging about. 1376 01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:40.880 It, not in a wink to it. 1377 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:44.920 I think that circumstantially it's very similar the story, Like 1378 01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.000 you remember the scene where you're wondering if he what's 1379 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:49.760 going on in his head and he's standing out in 1380 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:52.719 his driveway at night. Then his fucking side bitch comes 1381 01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:53.639 up and he's like, what are. 1382 01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:54.039 You doing here? 1383 01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:56.599 You're supposed to think that fucker's guilty through the whole thing, 1384 01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:58.360 and then you find out the bitch isn't even dead. 1385 01:04:58.719 --> 01:04:59.960 Spoil alert the movie. 1386 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.280 My only question is where does Neil Patrick Harris playing 1387 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:03.440 to this? 1388 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:06.119 Okay? Was was he in that movie? 1389 01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:09.039 Definitely in that movie, sir, he was the one that 1390 01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:09.599 got murked. 1391 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:14.280 I forgot all about his role in that. 1392 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:18.079 That is Rosamond Pike, that scandalous bitch, the one that 1393 01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:20.239 faked your death. So you're saying, Lacy Peterson fake your 1394 01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:21.480 death is what you're saying in this theory. 1395 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:23.800 I'm saying it's a nod in a week. 1396 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.639 But yeah, I'm saying that could just be the the 1397 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:33.599 dog whistle to say, look again at Scott Peterson, because. 1398 01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.280 Let's present a scenario then when they're both in the 1399 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:40.000 colt and the somehow the cult is gonna frame him 1400 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.280 because he, you know, for whatever impetus behind that whatever. 1401 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.880 And let me give you an example of another circumstances 1402 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:49.679 that may have occurred. So the Fight Club author speaking 1403 01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:52.760 of David Fincher, right that he didn't did he did 1404 01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:53.400 fight Club? Right? 1405 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:53.679 Yeah? 1406 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.239 The author, Chuck Palnok's father was murdered on May twenty eighth, 1407 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:02.000 nineteen ninety nine, and late Tall County, Idaho. The woman 1408 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:04.280 he allegedly met on a classified out a few months 1409 01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.639 prior who was murdered with the murder. The man in 1410 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:12.239 prison today is her ex husband, Dale Shackleford, convicted child rapist. 1411 01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:14.280 Before he even married that lady. She was an attorney, 1412 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:16.519 met him in prison while he was on that rape charge. 1413 01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:20.119 So hard man to defend, but no evidence against Dale 1414 01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:24.079 in any regards to the murders. And furthermore, Dale and 1415 01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:27.079 his wife seemed to be part of this. Speaking of 1416 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:32.000 math trafficking, he had a dry convicted kidddler opened up 1417 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:36.519 a trucking company with his lawyer wife transporting chemicals from 1418 01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:41.079 the ozarks of Missouri Common Area Nations Hotspot to Idaho 1419 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.360 Common Area Nations Hotspot and meth trafficking operations. And they 1420 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:46.440 all have sex cult stuff going on around him. He's 1421 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:48.320 got like three or four side pieces. When it comes 1422 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.800 to trial, they all testify against him. The woman in 1423 01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:55.880 the burnout cabin with Chuck Palinook's father, the two deceased 1424 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:58.480 in this. In this matter, the alleged ex wife of 1425 01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:02.519 Dale Shackleford, the kid diddling apparently met traffick er sex coultist. 1426 01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:03.159 Uh. 1427 01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:06.280 She didn't have a uterus or sorry disregard the body 1428 01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:08.360 in the war and the burn up Cavin had a uterus. 1429 01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.440 The one that was there with Chuck Pallino's dad Fred, 1430 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:16.000 the alleged deceased woman had no uterus. So if these 1431 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.280 are matters of a sex cult turning against the party 1432 01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:20.440 and framing stuff and currently have some operations, we see 1433 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.639 more patterns of that across time and space in different 1434 01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:23.800 locations across the America. 1435 01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:27.119 This wondering uterus keeps coming. 1436 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:29.039 In, right, the wandering us case, that's a good name. 1437 01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:31.360 For it, because I mean, that's a legitimate We did 1438 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.119 that insanity or mental illness series, and that was a 1439 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.079 real thing. But that they were saying made women crazy. 1440 01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:39.480 But they looked at it as like a little. 1441 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:41.800 Hound dog that like to roam around in the woman 1442 01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.039 and it would make her crazy. But anyway, what was 1443 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.880 that they back in the day, they would say that 1444 01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:51.360 the woman had a wondering uterus. If it was too 1445 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.199 high you needed to entice it back down to the 1446 01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:56.000 bulvaria with some smells. 1447 01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:57.719 Or if it was too low and there was like 1448 01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:01.639 a hound dog, they said, it's like a hound dog 1449 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:06.360 like it was right, yeah, exactly. So to me, when 1450 01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:08.199 you look at the tours so that they found, they 1451 01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:11.719 always say, all of our internal organs are missing. Other 1452 01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:15.239 than the uterus with Lacy. So the uterus just keeps 1453 01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:16.560 coming back up in these things. 1454 01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:20.119 That's very often. I'm glad you pointed that out, Sir. 1455 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:22.439 I'm going to go on a uterus hunt now, not. 1456 01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:27.800 In on Well, I knew, Tony dude. 1457 01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.680 I was utterly stunned when I read that stuff on 1458 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.079 Dale Shackle for his case. His lawyers argued it in 1459 01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:34.600 their trial. And you know what the state by all 1460 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:38.199 appears is there's no evidence of state ever disper I 1461 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:40.079 can find no record of Let's they just ignored it. 1462 01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:44.800 They just ignort it, you know, So you know, maybe 1463 01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:46.439 we might be honest something there may be more importance 1464 01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:48.680 if you're talking about the serious worship and some sort 1465 01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:50.600 of connections of the uterus. Well, we just identified two 1466 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:51.920 weird uterus cases here, didn't we. 1467 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:54.520 Yeah, And let's. 1468 01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:58.319 Just say that even if this story is fake, the 1469 01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:02.359 way that they talk about the discovery of the torso 1470 01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:09.439 very significant in the DisCrit Well, we found just the 1471 01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:17.000 torso and just the uterus. And then like Connor was found. 1472 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:20.239 With the fucking string of twine tight around his neck, 1473 01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:22.520 not something the ocean would do. 1474 01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:25.399 Yeah, and there was a piece of tape on his 1475 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:27.159 ear not account for. It reminds me of the John 1476 01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:29.840 Benay case where they have the twine and the and 1477 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.439 the and the the Garrett that they've never really accounted 1478 01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:35.279 for the stun gun stuff. Again, things that are not 1479 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:41.079 that were not sourced from inside that home. So and 1480 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.520 again it's back to Ed Edwards. John Cameron claims ed 1481 01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.479 was that Santa Claus guy that that John Banan was 1482 01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:49.560 telling everybody about, and then he would have infiltrated the 1483 01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.319 home on the Christmas part of the day before that 1484 01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:52.840 cut out. 1485 01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:56.600 We did, so you'll probably get that recorded on your end. 1486 01:09:57.039 --> 01:09:58.960 Oh yeah, I was just saying that John the Ed 1487 01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:02.520 Edwards theory of John Cameron. He claims that that camera's 1488 01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:06.239 responsible for John Benet's as well, and that Edwards was 1489 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.319 the Santa Claus that John Baney was telling everyone about, 1490 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:11.279 and that Edwards would have been the guy that called 1491 01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:12.920 them and one from the home Christmas part of the 1492 01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:14.760 day prior just to test the response time. 1493 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:19.800 Did you know that Hunter S. Thompson wrote about the 1494 01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:20.560 Santa Claus? 1495 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:27.319 I didn't know, Kings. I did not know that. Actually, ma'am. 1496 01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.399 There's a process connection right there right. 1497 01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:33.039 And we know where he was running around At that time. 1498 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.640 Hunter s. Thompson knew the Santa Claus that John Bennet 1499 01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:36.680 was talking about. 1500 01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:40.159 Or was the Santa Claus. I wouldn't be surprised at 1501 01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:42.000 this point. And that guy was a hero of mine 1502 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:42.520 at one point. 1503 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.000 It's certainly I mean, I like the idea. It' certainly possible. 1504 01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:47.880 It did look just like Santa Claus at that time. 1505 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.600 I will note that white hair white. 1506 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:53.479 You're thinking Hunter was maybe running with Ed. 1507 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:56.960 I think Ad again is the general of their handed 1508 01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.800 death team. So if hunters up in the pornography, it's 1509 01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:02.560 film department, and he's gonna know that the guy in 1510 01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.159 the head of the fucking you know all, look at 1511 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:07.720 us a corporation. You know that. You know? Have you 1512 01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:10.399 ever seen the film No Country for Old Men? Oh? 1513 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.680 Yes, you know how I want to watch that with 1514 01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:14.840 her at some point. 1515 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:16.399 I'd like to invite you all for a future in 1516 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.479 cult and esoterical view on that film. I liked the book, 1517 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.560 Cormick McCarthy's book, but I like the film as well, 1518 01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:24.039 by the Cohen Brothers. And you see in that film 1519 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:26.479 what I'm describing here in this corporate network. So you 1520 01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:31.399 see Milton from office space who lost the Staplers operating 1521 01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:35.199 as some sort of managerial position in Midland, Texas where 1522 01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:38.680 the bushes that are from strangely right in a you know, 1523 01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:40.920 and when Midlands is a weird are you have nothing 1524 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:42.800 but west desert of Texas and then you have like 1525 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.319 this small block of skyscrapers you see off in the 1526 01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.239 distance like a mirage. That's fucking Midland, you know, the 1527 01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:52.199 Texas there. So that's what we see in the film. 1528 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.920 Yes, sir, did you think it was weird that Woody 1529 01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:58.640 Harrelson was literally playing his father in that movie? 1530 01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:00.680 Well, that's where I was my points. So we see 1531 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.079 what Harrelson's playing a hitman within this network, right, which 1532 01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:04.760 is again what his father did. And these people are 1533 01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.359 just telling us their tales, right, And his father was 1534 01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:11.159 in Texas in that era doing those things. He actually shot, shoots, 1535 01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:13.640 gets convicted for the murder of Judge Roy Wood. I 1536 01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:17.000 believe he's the second federal judge ever ever sitting judge, 1537 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:20.600 federal sitting judge ever murdered, ever murked in America. So 1538 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:25.960 he does that for the Mexkin drug cartel. So we 1539 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.000 see him working within the same network already that we 1540 01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:29.680 see it depicting that film. I don't think it's why. 1541 01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:31.119 I like your brain holds that, sir. I don't think 1542 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:32.600 there's any consequence we see that. 1543 01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:35.840 But no, I got another one for you too. There's 1544 01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:38.159 some monarch shit going on in that movie. Tommy Lee 1545 01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:42.199 Jones is the fucking bad guy in that movie. Oh shit, dude, 1546 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:44.039 do you ever see it, like recently? 1547 01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:47.479 Do you remember right now? I remember, I've seen that 1548 01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:48.720 film hundred of times. 1549 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:50.960 Do you remember when he's sitting in the TV and 1550 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:56.640 he grabs the milk and then there's the scene at 1551 01:12:56.640 --> 01:13:00.039 the end where and what's his name, anton or I 1552 01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:00.880 don't remember. 1553 01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:04.840 The Anton Antony? It is anton Is, you know? 1554 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:10.000 And yeah, so anyway, he goes up to the wife 1555 01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:11.199 at the end of the movie. 1556 01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:13.760 She knows who he is. She's seen him before, she 1557 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.279 and she knows she's gonna die. 1558 01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:19.000 She has seen right, dude, that's right, that's right. 1559 01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:21.800 Dan, And I mean watch it again with that. 1560 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:23.680 Now Stephen says, are you the devil? Or are you dead? 1561 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:24.880 Something something in that regard. 1562 01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:30.920 Yeah, I want to watch that clip though that had. 1563 01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:32.880 I'll bring it right up. So in regards to the now, 1564 01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:34.720 we're going to get too far off either. So we 1565 01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:37.199 see what Harrisson and retired US Army colonel goes to 1566 01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:40.000 this meet Milton from office space in this Midland office 1567 01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:43.439 building in Texas to describe recouping the drug money. He's 1568 01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:46.039 he's one of their guys and fills a role within 1569 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:49.239 this network. So he knows Anton, the other hit man guy, right, 1570 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:51.319 And they know the people that are in the distribution network, 1571 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:53.600 but they don't know that, you know, it's compartmentalized. They 1572 01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:56.079 just know of these people in certain respects. So I 1573 01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:58.039 I assert that's how that operates in the real world. 1574 01:13:58.079 --> 01:13:59.920 And they're just bragging about it by putting Whatty Harrelson 1575 01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:02.000 there because that's what his dad did. His dad was 1576 01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:04.520 forming armory colonel. But nonetheless it was the role he 1577 01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:07.600 played in Texas at that time for those people. So 1578 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.479 we see this being operated in corporate capacity. I would 1579 01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:13.079 say again, we see a uh, you have a logistics 1580 01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:16.680 distribution channels. You have your distribution you know, department of 1581 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.560 your logistics kind of supply department where Peterson would fall in. 1582 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:22.119 You know, you have other departments where folks may know 1583 01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:23.600 of each other, you know, so you may have like 1584 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:26.000 a your top guy, like a hunter s. Thompson may 1585 01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:28.279 know an ed in that nomork right because of their 1586 01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:29.600 you know they're up in the upper echel out of 1587 01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:33.199 this corporation. Yeah, they've been there for a long time. 1588 01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:35.399 They've crossed pass over the decades kind of deal, right, 1589 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:37.439 So that's kind of way I look at it. 1590 01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:38.319 Mm hmm. 1591 01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:43.880 So Gary Goes brings up some interesting points here about 1592 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:48.520 the case against and lack thereof against Peterson. So I 1593 01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:50.720 think the next ones at two minutes here, I'll fast 1594 01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:58.600 forward to maybe, uh, there we. 1595 01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:04.560 Go an unpopular belief to have. I mean, if you 1596 01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:08.079 go through the so called evidence in the case, I 1597 01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:12.319 could debunk virtually every single thing. But people have, or 1598 01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:16.119 a lot of people have a visceral reaction to this 1599 01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.239 case that was not correspond to the evidence. 1600 01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:21.600 Yeah, this was one of those infamous cases that the 1601 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:26.039 whole country followed. Speaking of the evidence, I had a 1602 01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:28.880 viewer right to me that it seems a lot of 1603 01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:32.760 this hinges on the Medina burglary that happened, as well 1604 01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:36.720 as the fact that police quote failed to investigate exculpatory evidence. 1605 01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.159 But more police did verify the statements and alibis of 1606 01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:44.119 those burglars. If there was police misconduct anywhere in this case, 1607 01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:47.319 in a case of this magnitude, why would that not 1608 01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:49.359 have been discovered the first time around? 1609 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:56.039 Well, it actually was the first time around. The officers 1610 01:15:56.079 --> 01:16:01.159 were trying to say that the burglary took place on 1611 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:05.600 the twenty six. Well, by the twenty six, as you 1612 01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:10.279 subsequently would know, most of the news media was already 1613 01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.319 camped out on that street. 1614 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.079 You pointed that out earlier, sir, I was a very 1615 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:17.920 salient characteristic of the bullshit that went on in this case. 1616 01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.760 Yeah, it's one of those big things that can't be overlooked. 1617 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:24.199 They needed to get their story straight and they fucked up. 1618 01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:26.720 Yeah, but like you'd think they would do that during 1619 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:28.520 their investigation before he goes to trial. 1620 01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.359 I mean to me, when you're like in the middle 1621 01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.560 of a frame up in real time, you're gonna slip 1622 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:37.840 up sometimes, and when you get dates and shit wrong 1623 01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:38.359 like that. 1624 01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:42.800 The way they tried to reach like go back and 1625 01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:45.239 you know, set it straight, it just made it even 1626 01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:46.279 look more suspicious. 1627 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:49.920 In my opinion, that's a fair point. I gotta let 1628 01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:51.319 this guy out. I'll give me one second. 1629 01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:55.359 I actually have a question about this right now. So 1630 01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:59.279 when are you guys, when are you guys thinking that 1631 01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:01.239 the burglary happened in the twenty. 1632 01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:04.600 Fourth whatever day Lacey died or gut nabbed. 1633 01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:07.520 Yeah, it happened after one o'clock on the twenty fourth, 1634 01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:09.399 when they had them them internet searches. 1635 01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:12.760 Okay, that old woman just claims it was Christmas Eve 1636 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:14.960 when she saw the nefarious action going around that. 1637 01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.399 Yeah, there was numerous corresponding accounts that seemed to indicated that was, 1638 01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:24.359 in fact when it occurred. Okay, so you're you would 1639 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:28.239 be because again there's so much Again, there's so much 1640 01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:30.279 narrative that was spun here, and the facts from fiction 1641 01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:33.880 is tough to discern, much like the Idaho four case. Yeah, 1642 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.279 and again the exculpatory evidence they did, they didn't test 1643 01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:38.680 shit and stuff like that. Same as Idaho four. There 1644 01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:41.239 was blood on that famous knife sheet every one talks 1645 01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.239 about with a touch DNA that actually had blood blood 1646 01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.079 on it from other males that was never tested, so unidentified. 1647 01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:51.359 Not Coburger's blood, so not the victim's blood. So again 1648 01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:54.720 we see the same malfeasans by by authorities. I think, 1649 01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:57.920 because Gary Goes explains, while. 1650 01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:00.840 The entire media scrub was out there in the middle 1651 01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.960 of the street. This burglary took place Number one, Number two. 1652 01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.800 The other thing that has always arked me the day 1653 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:12.680 the jury convicted Scott. The prosecution handed me discovery on 1654 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:16.000 that very day that he was convicted. 1655 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:19.399 Where again Idaho did the same thing to Brian Coverger. 1656 01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:24.119 A lieutenant at the Chino Prison had intercepted a call 1657 01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:27.880 from an inmate to one of the burglars who were 1658 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:31.920 talking about Lacy Peterson and confronting her during the burglary. 1659 01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.359 That tape went missing and they never disclosed that until 1660 01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:37.439 the day of his conviction. 1661 01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:44.000 Yeah, Goobe respond with your assessmentand has the very sounding 1662 01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:48.319 characteristics in the innocence of the fact that Scott Peterson 1663 01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:50.680 did not do it and the malfeasans of the law 1664 01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:53.119 enforcement authorities. How do you get a recording from these 1665 01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:55.840 burglars which they shit goat the timelines and narratives around 1666 01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:57.840 these burglars in the event, you know what I mean, 1667 01:18:57.840 --> 01:18:59.840 they move all these timelines and then you later have 1668 01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:01.920 a tape that gets disclosed to the defense after he 1669 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.560 signs it guilty plea, but the tape's actually lost. 1670 01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:10.720 I don't understand what the significance is of that woman saying, 1671 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.600 Lacy squatted down to pee. 1672 01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:16.000 She's probably eight and a half months pregnant and needs 1673 01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:18.039 to pee and begs the guys to let her pee, 1674 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:19.880 and they make her do it right on the ground. 1675 01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:20.640 They don't want her to go. 1676 01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:22.760 She's probably trying to buy time, get back in the house, 1677 01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:24.479 try to get away or something, and they make her 1678 01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.520 do it right there. She gets spotted by the old bitch, 1679 01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:30.600 and then they just yanker in the van, probably midstream. 1680 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:32.520 It's certainly a plausible scenario. 1681 01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:34.159 And there's a mattress in there. 1682 01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:37.199 You'll see. They keep inflating these vans. We'll see in 1683 01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:40.239 the next clip after Garrigus. The intentional conflation of these vans, 1684 01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:42.960 which makes me seems to me indicates there's a lot 1685 01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:48.199 more to both of those vans, because let's just say, 1686 01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:50.960 maybe both fans were involved. Maybe they was a you know, 1687 01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:53.359 they switch vehicles at some point. We've seen that in 1688 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:55.319 Afflick movies, The Town. They do that in the Town 1689 01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:59.000 with Affleck. We're basing these theories off of Afflac films. 1690 01:19:59.039 --> 01:19:59.960 I'm just saying, there we go. 1691 01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:09.720 Yeah, I hear you, well, we got up next. 1692 01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:12.479 Oh shoot, my bad I didn't say this. I thought 1693 01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:14.279 I was dude, I'm new. I don't know what to do. 1694 01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:19.560 I hit played, dude, I'm stupid, dude. Reason I like 1695 01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:21.840 what Sharry and I. I was just watching Gary Griss myself. 1696 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:25.680 I didn't want you guys to join me. That's one 1697 01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:26.960 of me and Gary Gris myself. 1698 01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:28.159 I'm curious. 1699 01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:32.119 I'm curious, just as an everyday American. 1700 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:37.560 Who can you'll see that here that he was where 1701 01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:42.159 a lieutenant at the prison had intercepted a call from 1702 01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:45.800 an inmate to one of the burglars who were talking 1703 01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:49.439 about Lacy Peterson and confronting her during the burglary. 1704 01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.760 That tape went missing, and they never disclosed that until 1705 01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:54.880 the day of his conviction. 1706 01:20:55.920 --> 01:20:59.319 And I'm assuming have you talked to the La Innocence Project. 1707 01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:02.920 I mean I have sious because I'm curious, just as 1708 01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:05.560 an everyday American who followed this case. I mean, in 1709 01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:07.960 their eyes and you who just said I knew the 1710 01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:10.960 evidence better than anybody else, what's the smoking gun here? 1711 01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:13.319 Yeah? What's the smoking I was waiting for guns? 1712 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:16.239 It was possibly exoneration in the future. I mean, what's 1713 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:18.399 going to have to come forward for a new trial 1714 01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:20.880 to actually come to fruition for Scott Peterson. 1715 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:24.039 Well, I don't know that I would be in a 1716 01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:29.079 position to characterizez what they think. I have always thought 1717 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:33.880 that the fact the complete collapse of any kind of 1718 01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:39.680 forensic evidence tying Scott to a crime. Remember that house 1719 01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:43.439 h and that bay were probably the most searched and 1720 01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:47.279 forensically tested two areas at the time. 1721 01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:51.439 There was nothing, So I think it makes it. That's 1722 01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:53.159 one of my biggest points right there. Like one of 1723 01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:55.000 the biggest takeaways I have is when they do all 1724 01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:58.560 this massive searching, you know, the amount of evidence they find. 1725 01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:01.239 They're like, we found like this, you know, some of 1726 01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:03.359 Lacey's blood or hair on a boat and stuff like that, 1727 01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:05.960 like one strand of hair, Like even if it was 1728 01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:08.600 they're not planted, Like it's not unreasonable to believe that 1729 01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:12.039 these married partners would exchange such things as transporting a 1730 01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:14.920 hair onto something, you know, another vehicle they go into. Again, 1731 01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.279 it's not evidence of a crime, you know what I mean, 1732 01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:20.000 They're not evidence of this is we found the murder weapon, 1733 01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:22.319 he took it, did this on this date, and did 1734 01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:23.920 these things. And then when they try to paint those 1735 01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:26.239 narratives they have again as we've already pointed out, changed 1736 01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.319 their own their own theories mid trial. 1737 01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:35.239 Well, what do you what do you think about Gergis Like, 1738 01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:39.760 I don't think how can you sit here and say 1739 01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:44.439 this the discovery process, sure, but once new evidence comes 1740 01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:47.560 to light and he waits until now to like, I mean, 1741 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:51.520 he's basically admitting that this did come out in time. 1742 01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:54.159 Yeah, but let's imagine this scenario. It's all part of it. 1743 01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:56.000 Even if it's a real ven or not, there's still 1744 01:22:56.039 --> 01:22:58.800 psychological operations and a magic show around it to distract 1745 01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:01.920 folks attention from the real reality of the situation. So 1746 01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.279 let's assume that unless he's playing a great role, right, 1747 01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.000 he does he does his job. Well, he goes like this, 1748 01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:09.560 my work here is done. 1749 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:14.680 So you think that he's in on it, You think 1750 01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:17.840 that he's in on getting Scott falsely convicted. 1751 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:20.279 Yeah, I think he was part of the rail roading 1752 01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:24.119 for sure. And then another thing, look at. 1753 01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.279 As I call a nightmare team of Orenthal, James Simpson. 1754 01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:30.439 The only person that cared about Orentthel James Simpson. There 1755 01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:32.479 was Pal Kardash and everyone else that was part of 1756 01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:34.439 the railroad, part of the magic show. 1757 01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:39.039 But he was only given a million dollars to do 1758 01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:42.119 this case. That might sound like a lot of money, 1759 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.600 but people like have looked into these murders and like 1760 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.359 how the court stuff works, that's nothing. 1761 01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:51.039 He should have gotten way more for this if this 1762 01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:51.640 was legit. 1763 01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:56.279 Yeah, and he you know, he's you know, what's he 1764 01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:58.640 done for him? Since again you know, I'm not I 1765 01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:00.720 almost to speak for John Cameron, but to my understanding 1766 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:03.439 from statements I've heard him making previous shows years ago, 1767 01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:06.720 the detective, the Ed Edwards detective, that is, he's reached 1768 01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:08.560 out to reach out to all these guys like Garri 1769 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:11.000 Gers and gotten their response. So that's to say something too. 1770 01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:16.199 I didn't know that. Oh yeah, he's keeping the show going, 1771 01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:17.159 that's for sure. 1772 01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:21.680 Yep, he's got some more. He's got some more statements 1773 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:22.359 to them. 1774 01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:25.279 That they have recovered. They believe they'll do some testing 1775 01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:28.920 there and they have in reading the motion some other 1776 01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.359 pieces of evidence that there appears. 1777 01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:33.680 Now he says he's reading the motions. He's not involved 1778 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:36.239 in this case. He's simply read that innocence project. Finally, 1779 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:38.600 and I've read the same thing. And again, this is 1780 01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:40.439 the new Van, this is not the old an. We'll 1781 01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:42.239 get it. He doesn't really, he doesn't really point that 1782 01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:42.920 out here. 1783 01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:47.560 Twenty years later to be techniques that can be utilized 1784 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:54.199 that will potentially point to a complete exoneration. I will 1785 01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:56.520 say it again, and I know I've said it already 1786 01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:58.880 in this brief time I've had it with you. There 1787 01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.880 is has never been any evidence as to how he 1788 01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:05.920 did this, where he did this, or when he did this. Remember, 1789 01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:06.319 wouldn't it? 1790 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:09.319 And that was the point I was making earlier. There was, 1791 01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:13.439 you know, standard investigation. You have to establish NeXT's point 1792 01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.000 of your suspect, who committed this crime, the victim of 1793 01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:18.159 the crime, and the scene of that crime. And they 1794 01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:19.960 did none of that. And they also did none of 1795 01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:23.880 that night I who four. In fact, they've they've come 1796 01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:26.159 out since the guilty plea there and said, oh, we 1797 01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:28.680 can't even put him in the house. The cell phone 1798 01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:30.439 tower ship was garbage. We don't know that he was 1799 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:33.600 stalking them. It's all fucking nonsense. And it's the same 1800 01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:39.079 sort of you know playbook. Yeah, drugs has something to 1801 01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.000 do with that. Greek them, Greek students s on them 1802 01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.560 to universities up There have been long standing drug distribution 1803 01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:47.039 networks and a lot of Mexican cartel activity along with 1804 01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:50.239 Arian Nations style drug trafficking. So when you mentioned those 1805 01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:52.319 white nationalists earlier there, I was like, yeah, that sounds 1806 01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:54.439 about right with these with these patterns of behavior. 1807 01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:57.720 Well, are you familiar with the incident I'm talking about 1808 01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.960 that came forward where he apparently he was, you know, 1809 01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:03.199 one of his trips to Fresno. He was in a 1810 01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:08.000 titty bar and two neo Nazi guys came forward and 1811 01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:11.279 said that he approached them after he saw their tattoos 1812 01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:14.119 and whatnot, and he said, how do you guys get 1813 01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:18.319 rid of bodies? How do you transport them? So these 1814 01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:23.800 two neo Nazi guys stepped forward saying that, and I 1815 01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:25.840 think it's part of the railroading. They were trying to 1816 01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:29.560 like add to his fucking case or the case against him. 1817 01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:32.600 Well, there you go. What better way to use compromise 1818 01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:35.520 folks within your network to then stir this whole ship 1819 01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:38.159 storm and send in a direction the false direction of 1820 01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:41.640 framing framing up Scott Peterson, the. 1821 01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:44.279 Same guys that knew he was dumping fucking. 1822 01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:49.720 Probably guys for example, for example, in the Orenthal James 1823 01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:53.279 Simpson case, two of the witnesses besides Bill Colby, not you, 1824 01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.279 not Bill Colby, Besides Bill Colby's son Carl Colby, the 1825 01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:59.079 primary witness, chief witness for the state against Orenttheal James 1826 01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:03.600 Simpson used Denise Brown, who was dating a confirmed mafia 1827 01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:07.840 made man hit man. Confirmed Kills had done time before then, 1828 01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:11.439 and he testified as well. So you have compromised parties 1829 01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:13.800 testifying in the frame these passies. That's what I would 1830 01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:19.359 would have hurt there. Yeah, so this is the dude 1831 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:22.479 that finds the other vans. So let's it's interesting news names. 1832 01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:25.239 Isn't it with News Nation over this ship. 1833 01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:31.279 Four two man four yep, yep. They're not the ones 1834 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.279 creating the propaganda, the ones disseminating in the propaganda though. 1835 01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:38.439 It's our Howard Bloom who's working for Cocaine, Bob Evans, 1836 01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:42.119 Buddy Grayton Carter had a Vandy Fair who employs Howard 1837 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:44.279 Bloom who then they everyone repeats Howard Bloom, but they're 1838 01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:46.920 the ones who do They're the main mouthpiece. I didn't 1839 01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:50.720 know actually Banfield, who made her name in the Vegas 1840 01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:53.279 kidnapping case of Arenthal. James Simpson, why is always going 1841 01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:54.840 back to the same network with these fuckers. 1842 01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:00.960 That's when he went in armed to get some memorabilia back. 1843 01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:03.079 Yeah. He was definitely set up for that too. 1844 01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:03.760 Yeah. 1845 01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:06.239 Man, that oriental James Simpson, what was. 1846 01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:08.520 The kidnapping thing you're talking about? That's those are two 1847 01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:09.680 different that was it? 1848 01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:12.359 That was it an armed robbery kidnapping when he when 1849 01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:13.960 he told me they can't leave, it's kidnapping in the 1850 01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:14.600 state of Nevada. 1851 01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:17.960 Yeah, he did false imprisonment or whatever to get his back. 1852 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:20.039 They may have been a false imprisonment in charge kind 1853 01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:24.479 of memorabilia. So it is interesting though the people who 1854 01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:27.159 perpetrate and controls. There is a news nation, as you 1855 01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:29.079 point out, sir, is uh, certainly at the. 1856 01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:34.439 Forefront, and that's interesting. Chris Cuomo, right, yeah, but I 1857 01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:36.359 didn't know who was behind the News Nation. I've never 1858 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:37.199 really looked into them. 1859 01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:39.479 But that's all. It's interesting. I think it's the now 1860 01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:42.199 you mentioned. I think it was the Tribune. I remember correctly, 1861 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:45.399 the Tribune Media Corporation w used to be w g 1862 01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:51.159 N out of Chicago. They became I believe they got rebranded, 1863 01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:53.319 you know what I mean. But again, this is this 1864 01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:55.680 is so this is incidental reporting. No one cares about 1865 01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:58.039 this case, I assure you. And again John Cameron's made 1866 01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:00.720 those statements on his instance, isn't trying and you know, 1867 01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:03.000 bring justice to some of these matters. Even if he 1868 01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:06.199 is wrong, clearly he's onto something. Peterson did not do it. 1869 01:29:07.439 --> 01:29:11.119 But you know it's interesting, even though they're doing the 1870 01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.439 sentinel reporting, there's this ongoing shit coding between these two vans, 1871 01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:16.760 the robbery van, which was a brown or tan one, 1872 01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.439 and then this orange one. And we see this orange 1873 01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:21.560 ones that the centerpiece, as Garry go has mentioned in 1874 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:27.359 that filing by the La Innocence Project, maybe here was 1875 01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:31.680 a van okay, an orange van there it is was 1876 01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:36.399 found a mile from Peterson's home. It was found by 1877 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:42.800 a Modesto fire inspector a day after Lacy Peterson went missing. 1878 01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:47.199 So what Well, inside the van there was a mattress. 1879 01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:51.680 On the mattress was a blood stain. The inspector says 1880 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:55.279 it was human blood. Here's what he told GMA. 1881 01:29:57.079 --> 01:29:59.560 I don't know that I was tieing the moment to Lacey. 1882 01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:02.760 I was more ty in the moment that it was 1883 01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.840 human blood. It made it like this was much more 1884 01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:06.840 important than. 1885 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:09.920 Just I'm gonna go ahead and say that was a 1886 01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:11.960 comment that he was told to make and that he 1887 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:14.199 was told you. You better not telling you to connect 1888 01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:18.880 to this SLACI from David Backley. You better tell him 1889 01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:19.680 you didn't connect this from you. 1890 01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:22.560 It would literally for any retard, and let alone a 1891 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:25.039 guy who's what is he a fire what inspector or something? 1892 01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:26.239 Fire chief? 1893 01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:27.279 Oh, he's a chief. 1894 01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:30.000 Yeah. They hire retards to be the exactly. 1895 01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:32.359 Yeah, he goes the most. He goes the most because 1896 01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:35.119 a lot of times they are the incident commander on scenes, 1897 01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:37.479 right when they go to a mash casualty event or 1898 01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:40.199 a homicide that they're the ones that are calling the corners. 1899 01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:42.079 The police are oftentimes are not the ones. You can't 1900 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:44.520 do anything yet it's all medical focused at first, right, 1901 01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:47.239 So as a result of fire chiefs are the onsecene 1902 01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:49.359 commanders until like a police a police chief shows up 1903 01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:53.720 for like a police captain. So this dude's Gondam, it's 1904 01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:56.319 meth Desto. It's not his first homicide scene and he's 1905 01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:57.960 not the first time he's seen bloody cause he's like, oh, 1906 01:30:57.960 --> 01:30:59.960 that's definitely human blood. I can smell it, I can 1907 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.239 tell the very specific tent of zinc in that blood. 1908 01:31:02.239 --> 01:31:05.880 You know what I mean, Like this dude seemed blood before, right, So. 1909 01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:09.319 They found it because it was all burnt up. 1910 01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:11.560 Yeah, somebody drove it a mile away from the house, 1911 01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:13.479 set it on fire, presumably. 1912 01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.800 Yeah, they didn't find until after it had been basically 1913 01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:20.079 been extinguished. But again they didn't get rid of the evidence. 1914 01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:21.640 You know what. Ed didn't get rid of evidence in 1915 01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:24.359 numerous arsens that he committed. That's why he went to 1916 01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:28.800 jail when he attempted to burn a Marietta Police Department 1917 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.159 sergeant's uniform from Marietta, Georgia, back in nineteen eighty two, 1918 01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.159 where it seems that Ed had infiltrated the Atlanta Child 1919 01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:38.800 Killing Task Force faking to be a Mariada. A police 1920 01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:41.880 sergeant tried to burn up that uniform in a Pennsylvania home, 1921 01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:44.840 didn't work, and got arrested by the Feds for arson. 1922 01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:46.560 They found the uniform in the closet. 1923 01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:51.399 So on December twenty fourth, she goes for a walk 1924 01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:56.960 at some point after one pm, after she's searched sunflower dresses. 1925 01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:02.640 She gets home. She home, she sees the guys across 1926 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:05.039 the street where they see her. They're probably there to Naber. 1927 01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:10.880 I've heard that I've heard people say that she approached 1928 01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:12.600 them to be like, what are you doing in the 1929 01:32:12.640 --> 01:32:15.319 Medina house, but it would be more like they were 1930 01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:17.520 there to grab her, and then the robbery is just 1931 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:18.319 a red herring. 1932 01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:22.760 So the last known sighting from the eyewitness reports, I 1933 01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:24.119 believe was just prior to one. 1934 01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:27.920 Pm, unless you count the woman. 1935 01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:32.039 What I'm saying, I'm sorry with her dog with her dog, 1936 01:32:33.239 --> 01:32:33.840 with her dog. 1937 01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:37.239 So the dog runs off and gets grabbed by a neighbor, right, 1938 01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:38.720 and neighbor puts it in the backyard. 1939 01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:42.800 Yep, Okay, So what I mean just that. 1940 01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:47.319 It's it's like, well, yeah, but as you heard from 1941 01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:49.840 Gary Goes, the state never tried to provide an nexus 1942 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:52.680 point from when Scott allegedly kidnapped his wife and then 1943 01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:54.640 left the dog behind on the leash, And they never 1944 01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:55.680 even argued that. 1945 01:32:56.039 --> 01:32:59.880 Right, And as Julia pointed out, if you were given 1946 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:02.479 doctor's note to not take a walk, it doesn't mean 1947 01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:03.319 that you're not going to. 1948 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:05.159 I don't think that's concrete proof of everything. 1949 01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:09.720 Yeah, she had a few different people coroborate that story, 1950 01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:14.439 a yoga teacher, her mother, But I fucking know, I've 1951 01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:15.840 been around two pregnant women. 1952 01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:17.640 I know how stir crazy they get. 1953 01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:20.800 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if she's like, fuck it, 1954 01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:24.079 I'm feeling good today. It's Christmas Eve, it's holiday cheer. 1955 01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:26.399 I'm taking a fucking walk today. I'm gonna take it easy. 1956 01:33:26.439 --> 01:33:31.359 I'm just walking Mackenzie down to the park and she's 1957 01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:33.119 seen by twenty four fucking people. 1958 01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:39.039 So, in regards to this reporting, a real time reporting 1959 01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:41.399 back in the case unfolded of the timeline of events. 1960 01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:44.800 So December thirtieth, less than a week after her, Lacey 1961 01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:48.439 goes massing, Modesta detectives raced over to investigate, and intriguing lead, 1962 01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:52.000 a fresh name massage therapist named Amber Fry revealed that 1963 01:33:52.039 --> 01:33:54.680 she'd been dating Scott Peterson forever a month. So they've 1964 01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:56.560 always played these games of how they learned. 1965 01:33:56.399 --> 01:34:01.920 About that massage therapist. Were talking about that horror network. 1966 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:05.680 Excuse me, rating network? Yeah, and uh, what do we 1967 01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:08.119 look at? Why was why were all these women going 1968 01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:10.600 to Epstein? They were giving it. The high school girls 1969 01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:12.239 were giving two hundred dollars handies. 1970 01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:15.279 I think it's important to note this statement by that detective. 1971 01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:19.199 Former Detective Bueller noted her recall was fantastic. It was 1972 01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:21.600 almost like it was a script from a Hallmark TV 1973 01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:26.520 show or something whose dual I recalled every detail of 1974 01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:27.680 their romantic dates. 1975 01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:31.159 Come on, Buehler, who's builder? Did he come up more 1976 01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:32.720 than like, I know, I don't recognize that. 1977 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:33.279 Naw, he was. 1978 01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:36.920 He's a guy that's like actually saying real shit and 1979 01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:38.319 he didn't really get covered in the. 1980 01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:41.600 True crime presentation. Well there you go, because I've not 1981 01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:42.800 heard that name come up. 1982 01:34:43.239 --> 01:34:45.359 Then they get hurt of record phone calls and they 1983 01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:47.920 do this massive press conference on the twenty fourth, Right, 1984 01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:49.800 So yeah, there's a lot of like if you're going 1985 01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:52.399 to build up of uh, you know, if you're doing 1986 01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:55.000 a fictional narrative, you want you know, you have the storyline, 1987 01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:56.880 you got to build up the suspense, right. 1988 01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:00.359 And it's a script if you ask Bueller. 1989 01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:02.640 Well, Bler just told you Serias from Hallmark. It was 1990 01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:04.560 a Hallmark script. 1991 01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:06.199 And it basically is that quality of production. 1992 01:35:07.159 --> 01:35:09.520 So then April thirteenth and fourteenth is when the bodies 1993 01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:11.920 appear up, and again they don't go over the forensic 1994 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:15.560 evidence where indicates these they decompositions were different, you know 1995 01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.039 what I mean, And that is we're to believe the 1996 01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:22.560 later DNA evidists. They claimed that confirming the torso was Lacey's. 1997 01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:29.000 No head though no head, no internal organs other than 1998 01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:33.439 the us legs, that uterus did not wonder it stayed 1999 01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:35.159 home even though all the other organs left. 2000 01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:40.640 Yeah, I mean, oh, dude, you remember this the jurors. 2001 01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:42.279 They even made a show out of the jurors. 2002 01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:46.159 She wrote this motherfucker seventeen letters. 2003 01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:47.800 She was one of the reasons that they want to 2004 01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:52.560 do appeal because she had some domestic violence issues, and 2005 01:35:52.720 --> 01:35:55.399 she had she was pregnant when she was being knocked around, 2006 01:35:55.399 --> 01:35:59.880 and she left that out of the initial jury deliberate. 2007 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:01.560 What is it when they sort it through him, she 2008 01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:05.079 would have been dismissed in a fucking second. And then 2009 01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:08.960 she writes this guy letters. He wrote back eighteen times. 2010 01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:09.880 I'd like to see those. 2011 01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:14.079 Well, I don't know. I've been told he's very active 2012 01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:15.800 as a pen pal in prison. 2013 01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:20.800 Especially some fucking redheaded little starlet trying to get. 2014 01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:21.119 Fair out of it. 2015 01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:23.880 I mean, there you go again. The guy doesn't seem brilliant, right, 2016 01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:26.640 He's obviously he's got some you know, situations going on. 2017 01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:29.079 So let's assume this. Let's if we can bring this 2018 01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:33.239 in for landing here not Bill Colby and Juliet cosmic Peach. 2019 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:36.239 I appreciate your times in these conversations on our Swamp casts, 2020 01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:38.119 and we kind of were kind of the some of 2021 01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:41.119 the sailing characteristics of the not case against Scott Peters 2022 01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:43.720 and some of the bigger questions that remained. Let's assume 2023 01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:45.800 it was a real event. Now, let me just throw 2024 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.279 this one at you on my closing statements on these things. 2025 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:51.720 Sims real event, the scene's actually happened. She actually did die, 2026 01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:54.920 was a real person. There was two other incidents that 2027 01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:57.239 fit the exact mold of her for the story lines 2028 01:36:57.239 --> 01:36:59.279 we've kind of painted, for getting kidnapped and marked by 2029 01:36:59.319 --> 01:37:01.920 some sort of network of situations, right, and maybe even 2030 01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:04.399 a ritual human sacrifice at different times with a baby. 2031 01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:06.520 Even in fact that scene would play into this as well. 2032 01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:09.399 Perhaps So there was two other women and one was 2033 01:37:09.479 --> 01:37:16.640 named Lords of Vilia. She was reported she was a 2034 01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:20.439 modesto lady, reported to have she was eight eight eight 2035 01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:23.119 eight months eight and I haven't months pregnant. She reported 2036 01:37:23.159 --> 01:37:25.680 to have been stalked by two men in a van 2037 01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:27.039 right around that same time. 2038 01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:35.079 So go ahead, no, go ahead, So you think it 2039 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:37.399 could have been like a serial killer team. 2040 01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:42.520 Well, if you're a death cult shopping for babies and whatnot, 2041 01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:44.680 and polkesheads a lop off. I mean, there you go. 2042 01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:49.920 Is that your final conclusion on it? 2043 01:37:50.119 --> 01:37:52.560 Well, folks can check out that lady's tail. I did 2044 01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:55.479 see this one thing on this years ago. On this case. 2045 01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:57.439 I haven't seen the new stuff, but that lady's tail 2046 01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:02.760 was depicted here in a previous TV murder of Lacy Peterson, 2047 01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:09.840 so twenty seventeen, So you have that one, right, and 2048 01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:19.079 then you have the case also of Evelyn Hernandez. So 2049 01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:22.199 her body comes up ashore not far from her Lacey's 2050 01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:25.000 and Connor is dead, and I think about four. 2051 01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:28.239 Months later, four months later. 2052 01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:31.720 A pregnant woman had vanished days before giving birth. Inside 2053 01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:34.880 case of Evelyn Hernandez. The other Lacy Peterson. 2054 01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:40.039 Oh my god, I did not know about this. 2055 01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:43.039 Yeah, well, apparently there's a new docu series here. Man 2056 01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:46.399 Murder Has Two Faces began May sixth of this year 2057 01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:49.920 on Hulu. The similarities between the killings of Hernandez and Peterson. 2058 01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:52.600 I don't think they ever found her son. I do 2059 01:38:52.680 --> 01:38:55.399 think they recovered her body though, But look, that's part 2060 01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:57.119 of the system, I think, because again one of the 2061 01:38:57.319 --> 01:38:59.239 Cameron points out, I think, even if Ed's not the 2062 01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:01.159 only guy doing it, part of this network, of this 2063 01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:04.479 death cult. Like AD's friend Otis Tool would describe, right, 2064 01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.319 they knew each other. That is, you got you gotta 2065 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:10.640 bring closure to the event. That way, there's no in 2066 01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:12.880 searching for shit. So you give them the Patsy, you 2067 01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:15.119 give them the body, you give them a convenient storyline, 2068 01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:17.520 you give them a great person to hate. It is 2069 01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:19.880 an easy thing for folks to just accept. 2070 01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:25.319 Wow, I'm reading a little bit about this Hernandez, this 2071 01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:26.199 is crazy. 2072 01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:28.199 Yeah. 2073 01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:32.680 Look on July twenty fourth, two thousand and two, hernandez 2074 01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:36.079 body was found in San Francisco Bay, missing its head 2075 01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:38.039 in several less. 2076 01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:42.399 Just like John Cameron says, this is also Ed. And 2077 01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:44.520 again I would agree it's the network and ads in 2078 01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:46.840 charge of it, but they may not just be d directly. 2079 01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:49.000 It's Lackey's. 2080 01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:53.960 So we've established a pattern behavior across decades, both of 2081 01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:57.560 geography and time. Here tonight with appreciate the conversation with 2082 01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:00.560 you all. Always enjoy it. Real barn Burner, I didn't 2083 01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:02.520 declart it first, but I didn't have any doubt it's 2084 01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:05.600 real barnburner. But you know, what else are we describinging 2085 01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:07.640 if it's not a network of what that what Ostol 2086 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:09.319 will describe as a hand of death, which I claim 2087 01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:11.079 his pal at Edwards was in charge of. 2088 01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:16.159 As my closing statements, I think this could either be 2089 01:40:16.399 --> 01:40:24.000 all theater or if Scott, If Scott didn't do it, 2090 01:40:24.359 --> 01:40:26.159 he knew from jump. 2091 01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:31.720 That suspending disbelief of this show thing, you really still 2092 01:40:31.720 --> 01:40:32.800 think he may have done it. 2093 01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:35.760 He was involved in some way, He had. 2094 01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:39.039 To have been, not in some way as though he 2095 01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:42.319 was actually involved in her murder, or he knew it 2096 01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:43.600 was going down, going. 2097 01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:46.319 He knew it was going down, he knew the details, 2098 01:40:46.479 --> 01:40:47.920 you know what happened. 2099 01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:50.039 No, there's evidence of that. I know. It's great point. 2100 01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:51.920 That's a great point. There's evidence that again across the 2101 01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:55.560 spectrum of space and time. Here Jay se Bring knew 2102 01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:58.479 he was about to get murdered before he got murdered. 2103 01:40:59.039 --> 01:41:01.479 So and in fact, somebody cut the phone lines at 2104 01:41:01.479 --> 01:41:03.800 his the electrical lines at his house that they thought 2105 01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:05.760 they cut the power of his house in the phone 2106 01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:08.319 lines the night before, like they did to take Plantsky 2107 01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:10.840 house the next night. When he got murdered, but they 2108 01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:12.920 cut the cable lines. He had cable TV at a 2109 01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:14.239 time when no one else did. 2110 01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:16.640 I didn't even know that was a thing in the 2111 01:41:16.720 --> 01:41:17.399 late sixties. 2112 01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:18.760 I didn't you know what when you were top of 2113 01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:21.520 this network dealing with the drugs through his hair salon, 2114 01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:25.039 his international hair salon, j Cbri International, which upon his 2115 01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:29.239 death was in fact taken over by the Processed Church's 2116 01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:33.119 own member and attorney, John Markham the Second, his cousin 2117 01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:37.800 is still today the in charge and owns Sebrie International 2118 01:41:37.840 --> 01:41:41.119 Hair hair salon stuff the hairslon of the stars in 2119 01:41:41.159 --> 01:41:44.520 their and their products and their long standing drug distribution. 2120 01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:48.439 It seems so that's the holy un Markham family processed 2121 01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:50.920 situation now. But yeah, he Seabrie knew was getting he 2122 01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:52.319 was the heat was on and he did it. What 2123 01:41:52.319 --> 01:41:52.920 something was up? 2124 01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:57.279 Well, I think it's let's let me not say if 2125 01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:00.840 let's just say Scott wasn't the one who actually did it. 2126 01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:02.880 But you're still thinking that's a possibility. 2127 01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:06.520 I mean, he could have helped. He could have said, hey, 2128 01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:08.720 I think she's gonna walk the dog today. 2129 01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:12.920 I kind of like, I kind of like JJ's take 2130 01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:16.359 that she was maybe in the network as well as him, 2131 01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:18.479 and I think that never has entered my mind. But 2132 01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:21.039 as soon as you said it, yeah. 2133 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:23.600 Well that's exactly what you when you started saying Gonral, 2134 01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:24.680 that's ammediately came to my brain. 2135 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:28.199 By the way, as some of my closing arguments. 2136 01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.239 I just there a piece of the ship, right, both 2137 01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:32.439 her and her and Affleck are pieces of ship in 2138 01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:32.760 that film. 2139 01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:33.319 Yeah. 2140 01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:38.960 I just looked up on the interwebs here the author 2141 01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:41.439 of that book that was adapted into the Fincher film 2142 01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:45.520 flat out said this is based on the Scott Peterson thing. 2143 01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:49.359 Boom boom boom. I like your rats, sir. That's good. 2144 01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:51.079 That's a good ship. I didn't consider that. I like 2145 01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:55.199 it though, so I but that's how much I liked it. 2146 01:42:56.600 --> 01:42:59.239 Well, I just I always look at these like I do. 2147 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:02.760 Think Jack and Thecholson did create Ted Bundy it att. 2148 01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:04.760 Yeah, man, and I do what call necessary film reviews 2149 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:06.960 every Wednesday, sir, and it did even cross my brain hole. 2150 01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:08.199 So I like your style. 2151 01:43:08.319 --> 01:43:10.760 Well i'll show I'll send you this clip that Julia 2152 01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:14.560 pulled up where he's being interviewed in Colorado. I think 2153 01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:18.720 that's Jack Nicholson representing the Ted Bundying character. There was 2154 01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:21.319 lots of people who did, and I think Nicholson was 2155 01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:23.279 one of them. And dude, I'm not convinced that Ben 2156 01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:26.960 Affleck wasn't in fucking prosthetics to play Scott Peterson. 2157 01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:30.159 Even I'm gonna need to see that link, sir. I'm 2158 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:34.279 also gonna need to join you all for another conversation 2159 01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:36.800 on these topics. Really, I enjoyed the conversation. I appreciate 2160 01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:37.399 your ast time. 2161 01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:41.039 Yeah, man, thanks that for doing this. This was, you know, 2162 01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:43.079 better than I expected it to be. I expected it 2163 01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:45.600 to be pread but barn Burner, like you. 2164 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:52.720 Said, guaranteed, sir. No bombs here, no bombs here? All right, Well, 2165 01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:55.479 any closing statements for we call her in here? 2166 01:43:56.319 --> 01:43:58.079 I think that I've said my piece. 2167 01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:04.960 Conspiracy, playtime, cosmic, peach, anything, anything fantastic coming up besides 2168 01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:07.359 your current fantastic stuff. I need to checkout about your 2169 01:44:07.359 --> 01:44:08.199 mental health series. 2170 01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:13.399 Well it's a it's a three part series and the 2171 01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:16.600 last episode's going to be coming out soon. But just 2172 01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:19.840 so you know, I learned one thing from the the 2173 01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:24.800 Scott Peterson case, and the number one cause of death 2174 01:44:24.840 --> 01:44:28.640 for pregnant women is murder. So if something happens to 2175 01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:30.640 me Kolby did it, Yike. 2176 01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:37.840 Noted for having I do make soap with sodium hydroxide. 2177 01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:40.600 Not it's not androgyen this it has a gender. 2178 01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:44.479 Uh huh, now that's awesome. Again, We'll have to convene 2179 01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:47.079 on these matters in the future. And Operation GCD live 2180 01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:51.560 every Sunday's, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Friday, sometimes on Saturdays because 2181 01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:54.359 I get sick on Thursdays like tonight. So I'm gonna 2182 01:44:54.359 --> 01:44:57.159 go do that next. But I i'd look forward to 2183 01:44:57.159 --> 01:45:00.000 our next conversations and if baby Hank arrives in the future, 2184 01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:04.159 your uh, congratulations and before I talk to you next, congratulations, 2185 01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:07.520 And I'm giving you pre congratulations and uh. 2186 01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:09.239 There's a very good chance that the next time you 2187 01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:09.760 talk to us. 2188 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:12.399 I assumed as much. Yeah, I assumed as much. So 2189 01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:14.159 and I know I've been through those endeavors of having 2190 01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:15.720 a newborn. So good luck, best of luck in that 2191 01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:17.640 it's gonna be a lot of sleepless nights, I'm sure. 2192 01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:20.560 So some point in the future when you're all or 2193 01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:23.800 back to having, you know, some time to podcast here. 2194 01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:26.079 But I look forward to our future conversations whenever that 2195 01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:31.479 does occur. Post Thank your congratulations. That's that's awesome stuff. 2196 01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:36.760 Thank you, Yes, ma'am. All right, well is that it. 2197 01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:38.319 We'll catch you next time, all right. 2198 01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:06.840 I saw you so sir, whom you'll take me up 2199 01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:11.039 in your arms, Too late to beg you or cancel it, 2200 01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:19.680 though I know it must be the killing time. Unwillingly mind. 2201 01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:25.439 Face up against 2202 01:46:25.479 --> 01:46:29.159 To war you through the fig