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Speaker 1: a gold Star. The gold star quarterback in the NFL
Speaker 1: is absolutely your boy, Knicks. Because the defense, this might
Speaker 1: be the best defense we've ever seen, literally in the
Speaker 1: history of the world, all things considered, and they keep
Speaker 1: them every game. They just intercepted the ball, got it
Speaker 1: down to the thirty and they went back bonets with
Speaker 1: backers on offense, had a punt after getting the ball
Speaker 1: on the other team's thirty. So at the end of
Speaker 1: every game, but they win, which they inevitably will somehow,
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Speaker 2: Well, I would like to I would like to personally
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Speaker 3: A star, a R star, and then a B star
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Speaker 3: one of the worst quarterbacked games. I mean, overall game
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Speaker 1: it's not in London, it's springzy Dutch. We're in thus
Speaker 1: Lyndon over to Munich. For those Indianapolis coasts, Indiana Joneses
Speaker 1: fresh off they're first loss in quite some time, longhorn,
Speaker 1: and they are facing those hot Atlanta Falcons who also
Speaker 1: came off a little real heartbreaker there in New England.
Speaker 1: Stupid kicker can't make an extra point, thank you very much,
Speaker 1: you fucking dickhead. Uh And Indy is sitting at six
Speaker 1: and a half point neutral favorites, we'll say neutral favorites
Speaker 1: even though they're listed as the home team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that this is the easy call for me.
Speaker 3: Now, Andy's coming off a bad game as far as turnovers,
Speaker 3: but they somehow were within that game one score of
Speaker 3: of you know, of tying that game up. Obviously, they
Speaker 3: had no shot in that specific game just because of
Speaker 3: the way it was going. Danny Dimes had derailed. We've
Speaker 3: had a full week to get get the trained back
Speaker 3: on the tracks, and now you're facing the Atlanta defense.
Speaker 2: That actually off in theory. In theory, the Atlanta defense.
Speaker 3: Pass rush might be able to give him some if
Speaker 3: the ghosts are really there, maybe they could still be
Speaker 3: there a little bit.
Speaker 2: Denver's by the way, going backwards again, that's what they do.
Speaker 3: But all the Atlanta injuries on their offense is kind
Speaker 3: of where I'm taking this. Last week, literally their whole
Speaker 3: offense was let me throw the ball to Drake London
Speaker 3: and that's it. Now we don't know if Sauce is
Speaker 3: gonna play a lot his game, but I have to
Speaker 3: think that he's gonna get out there and they just say, hey,
Speaker 3: see that six to five guy that they scored three touchs,
Speaker 3: just just lock him up to him. If they do that,
Speaker 3: and we know there's gonna be a bounce back. You know,
Speaker 3: he's not gonna turn on the ball for five times
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. So it just everything points to and he's
Speaker 3: coming off a bad loss. This is gonna be their
Speaker 3: bounce back. And I just don't trust Atlanta on the road.
Speaker 3: I don't trust them outdoors ish whatever whatever that situation
Speaker 3: is in Germany. So yeah, I'm all, I'm all Indy here,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: So on this one being Vegas for Whales, so Vegas
Speaker 1: had Atlanta minus one and a half preseason, I had
Speaker 1: a minus three and a half. Obviously, everybody in the
Speaker 1: world was wrong on Indianapolis. They far outseeded all of
Speaker 1: our expectations. So that's the reason for the big discrepancy there.
Speaker 1: Now the power ring is, though, still have Atlanta covering this.
Speaker 1: When the BBG has Atlanta winning this game twenty five
Speaker 1: to twenty three, the totals forty eight and a half,
Speaker 1: So there's no call there. The reason why the BBG
Speaker 1: has a winning says, this is a terrible matchup for
Speaker 1: Danny Domes and specifically, as I was looking through the numbers, like, wow,
Speaker 1: how is this a bad matchup for him? He's having
Speaker 1: the season of his life and he has great out this,
Speaker 1: but he's not great out this bad versus one defense
Speaker 1: the entire year. The reason for that is because Atlanta
Speaker 1: plays sixty seven per single high safety and that is
Speaker 1: his worst thing than he does, and he's already blow
Speaker 1: the league average at it. They do it, not only
Speaker 1: the Bulls, but they do it very very well. They
Speaker 1: are one of the best defenses in all the football
Speaker 1: at that So for that reason, I was like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 1: give me Atlanta. But then, oh, but then I started
Speaker 1: digging into the trends. It's like, all right, let me
Speaker 1: check the buys. Let me check it before the buyer,
Speaker 1: after the buye. So I went to the before the
Speaker 1: buy since twenty twenty one and no playoffs, and this
Speaker 1: is a neutral site, which we have seven games, believe
Speaker 1: it or not of this data since we've been playing
Speaker 1: so many international games lately. If you're before the buye
Speaker 1: the neutral site, and you are the favorite six and
Speaker 1: one straight up when he was seven point three points
Speaker 1: a game, six and one ats covering by four point
Speaker 1: three points a game, but the under is one in
Speaker 1: six to the under not going over by almost eight
Speaker 1: points a game. On an average sold of forty three
Speaker 1: and a half, we're sitting at forty eight and a half.
Speaker 1: Now again, I've got it at forty eight points. It's
Speaker 1: a no call there. But if this is really gonna
Speaker 1: be this bad a matchup for Daniel Jones and the
Speaker 1: other part of this too, the reason why I liked
Speaker 1: Atlanta is because, I mean, we all know the catalyst
Speaker 1: for this offense, obviously is the running game. That's the
Speaker 1: reason why they've been so successful in any They couldn't
Speaker 1: run it last week versus Pittsburgh very well, and then
Speaker 1: all the turnovers, which you know, once you get that
Speaker 1: many turnovers, the running game kind of takes care of itself.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to get it consistency going. But
Speaker 1: if they hold true, they can't run the ball, or
Speaker 1: they run it like they normally do, which is very
Speaker 1: very good. But Atlanta with Bejon the running game it
Speaker 1: grades up flat as well, and Pennies grades out flat.
Speaker 1: So basically you're gonna get a normal Atlanta game. The
Speaker 1: big difference here is that Daniel Jones is not gonna
Speaker 1: perform very well. I kind of do lean to that
Speaker 1: under but giving that trend, I cannot go with Atlanta
Speaker 1: as bad as I fucking wanted to, I'm not going
Speaker 1: against that trend. However, I think what we will do
Speaker 1: with this game, so it's just because I'm so frustrated
Speaker 1: since I don't get to fucking bet it like I
Speaker 1: want to. We're gonna make this the Numbers Gig Pick
Speaker 1: of the Week. Go outside, Nerd, get out, Go. I
Speaker 1: ain't got time to be distracted by your worthless chime
Speaker 1: Man's gone, all right? So with that now, I said,
Speaker 1: the Acs six and one covered by four point three
Speaker 1: points a game. That's an average line of minus three
Speaker 1: and a half. So what we can do in this
Speaker 1: game is we can make it a seven point teaser.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take Indy up to plus thirteen and a half.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take this total up to fifty five and
Speaker 1: a half, and we're gonna bet the under. So that's
Speaker 1: Indy plus thirteen and a half total up to fifty
Speaker 1: five and a half. Take the under. Sorry not Indy,
Speaker 1: Atlanta plus thirteen and a half and total fifty five
Speaker 1: and a half. Take the under. That's why we're gonna
Speaker 1: get at this one as the Numbers Gig Do no
Speaker 1: Long Pick of the Week. I'm so frustrated by this
Speaker 1: because again Danny Downads has been grading out spectacularly all year,
Speaker 1: and he's been performing spectacularly all year. Last week we
Speaker 1: told you we didn't really like him against Pittsburgh, didn't
Speaker 1: great out the best. But this week, but last week
Speaker 1: he was like flat. I mean, if wouldn't been for
Speaker 1: the turnovers, to your point, long warm, they would have
Speaker 1: been fine. It's just one of those games. It's gonna
Speaker 1: fucking happen. It's the NFL. But this week, without any term,
Speaker 1: this like, so, this is the worst graad he's had,
Speaker 1: just because he does not perform well against this Atlanta system.
Speaker 1: And again Atlanta is actually really good at what they do.
Speaker 1: Atlanta's defense sneakily has been not too shabby through most
Speaker 1: of the season. So now they've had their spots, but
Speaker 1: they've gotten had. I mean, look no further than what
Speaker 1: was it what I keep thinking it was Buffalo, but
Speaker 1: that was Carolina.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not awful.
Speaker 3: Just looking at the grades across the board, I mean
Speaker 3: it's it's not great, and there's a lot of I
Speaker 3: think there's one too. There's like three rookies starting basically,
Speaker 3: and we talked about that and some of the you.
Speaker 1: Talked about that other preseas, You're like, they need all
Speaker 1: these hen to have like any chance. And I guess basically, Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Two passers are doing okay.
Speaker 3: And Xavier watch the one I like the most safety's
Speaker 3: he's probably playing better than all of them.
Speaker 1: Let's just look at their le We move on from
Speaker 1: this one, just looking up their cess rating.
Speaker 3: By the way, Denver blocked a punt and got it
Speaker 3: at the twelve yard line and went nowhere and had
Speaker 3: to kick a field goal.
Speaker 1: We remember that they're gonna win this game ten to seven.
Speaker 3: Remember that that game, there was a game that Watson
Speaker 3: had towards the end of his like when it was
Speaker 3: just like almost done and then he blew up one
Speaker 3: of his knees or and and I remember watching that game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they would they would show that, like the behind
Speaker 3: the quarterback shot and you see the receivers out in
Speaker 3: the motion.
Speaker 2: They're they're showing this there he's this quarterback's lost.
Speaker 3: This dude's lost. There's receivers. I haven't seen someone this lost.
Speaker 3: No pressure and he's running outside into pressure.
Speaker 2: He shook. This dude has shook Denver. You got major,
Speaker 2: major problems going forward.
Speaker 3: I don't you know you're gonna have a good record,
Speaker 3: You're you're gonna make the playoffs. Because you're seven to two,
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna go to eight and two after this game. Major, major,
Speaker 3: major problems at quarterback, even worse like last year, he
Speaker 3: started off bad, gradually got better. This dude's lost right now,
Speaker 3: just watching, just watching some of the All twenty two,
Speaker 3: he's he's completely shook back there.
Speaker 1: Oh, the Broncos might be in troll though, you know,
Speaker 1: just saws hurt, So maybe they're bringing backup.
Speaker 2: In and uh oh Gino got hurt, Might might.
Speaker 1: Have some might have some backup magic.
Speaker 2: Who is their backup?
Speaker 1: I don't even know anymore? Is it my boy? The Stash?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'll find out.
Speaker 1: Oh if the Stash comes in and beats but Nicks,
Speaker 1: I'm so fucking happy.
Speaker 2: And that probably would happen.
Speaker 1: Oh every football god alive still wouldn't make that happen
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, he said he's having a hard time getting
Speaker 2: up carry Harry.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Atlanta eleventh overall in uh e p A.
Speaker 1: So yeah, again, they're they're performing better than we expected
Speaker 1: them on defense. So We'll see how this one plays out,
Speaker 1: all right. Moving on to those Minnesota Vikings. They're hosting
Speaker 1: those Baltimore Ravens, the the surging Ravens. Lamar's back, everybody's back,
Speaker 1: and they're sitting at They're sitting at four across the board.
Speaker 1: There is one three and a half at DK, but
Speaker 1: it's minus one eighteen and you're only paying eight cents
Speaker 1: for that. That four points has become so crucial Longhorn
Speaker 1: in this new NFL, and I'm all like the Ravens,
Speaker 1: I definitely get down on that. What do you got
Speaker 1: on this one?
Speaker 3: It was I mean, it was seemed like it was
Speaker 3: creeping towards four and a half at some books.
Speaker 1: Is it flat at four across? Now there is a
Speaker 1: four and a half at bet rivers. I'm just taking
Speaker 1: some serious fucking Vikings money or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah on this one.
Speaker 3: I Well, what I wrote up was for today is
Speaker 3: that we if you like Baltimore, you kind of missed
Speaker 3: the boat.
Speaker 2: And I did like Baltim some more. In this spot.
Speaker 3: We know that we know that the Lamar versus the
Speaker 3: NFC is a huge thing. You've got Minnesota coming off
Speaker 3: a huge, huge win last week, so they're due for
Speaker 3: a comeback down to earth spot, especially with JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Who oh boy.
Speaker 3: You know, like if you believe in this Baltimore defense
Speaker 3: coming out of that buy where they where they've looked
Speaker 3: way better and and gotten more healthy. Uh, this could
Speaker 3: be the blow up spot for JJ McCarthy. And we
Speaker 3: know that Lamar Jackson versus any defense, whether it's Brian
Speaker 3: Flores or anybody can he can kind of have his
Speaker 3: way and and really the pass rush that they have
Speaker 3: that almost can feed into what Lamar likes to do.
Speaker 3: So I'm not one hundred percent worried about that.
Speaker 1: But he is deadly if you if you can follow
Speaker 1: in love with blitzing him, which Flora is blitzes like,
Speaker 1: it is so deadly if you don't, if you don't
Speaker 1: get him. If you get him, he'll fumble on you
Speaker 1: for sure, and you can create a lot of turnovers
Speaker 1: from more. But if he makes one step but there's
Speaker 1: no way and there's nobody there, your toast.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm I tend to want to be
Speaker 3: on Baltimore. The fact that it went up to four
Speaker 3: and a half at some places and takes back down
Speaker 3: that it seems like that's the line where the buyback
Speaker 3: is going to be for Sharps taking Minnesota at that
Speaker 3: four and a half mark, which is a which is
Speaker 3: a very key number, so that that makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense. But yeah, I want to be on Baltimore,
Speaker 3: so I'm looking to get the best number. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was gonna say that. I saw that, Kenny Pigott, how
Speaker 3: you feel about that? Yeah, give me, give me Baltimore.
Speaker 3: You know they're they're three and five, they know they're
Speaker 3: in this. Every week is a playoff game for them,
Speaker 3: So get them, get them under four if you can.
Speaker 3: Four is my absolute latest bypoint to take Baltimore. Don't
Speaker 3: lay four and a half.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I would say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have anything in this game. I might
Speaker 1: have something come game day morning, but I didn't look.
Speaker 1: I didn't do really a right up on this at all,
Speaker 1: just because I do have I guess enough dated to
Speaker 1: judge JJ. But it's it's so inconsistent that I had,
Speaker 1: you know, a set of games early. I've got basically
Speaker 1: one game late. I don't know. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of laying off them until I see more of
Speaker 1: him work. It's like I gotta have something that I
Speaker 1: can count on that, you know, things that he does well,
Speaker 1: things he doesn't do well, and then a good matchup
Speaker 1: whether or not it's a good matchup for him or not. Plus,
Speaker 1: like you said, we've seen one game out of Baltimore
Speaker 1: out of the boy in their defense. Yes, it looked great. Great,
Speaker 1: that's one game. I gotta I gotta see more. I
Speaker 1: gotta see more. So I it's a layoff of me
Speaker 1: on this one.
Speaker 2: Kimmy Peckett still wears the gloves, by the way, just
Speaker 2: in case you're wondering out there, if everybody's wondering, you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Get small hands though, long horn. You remember that it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you had small hands.
Speaker 2: Well, it adds a little bit of girth the if
Speaker 2: the glove fits you, you don't. You don't bet on Cony
Speaker 2: whatever his.
Speaker 1: Name is, Picket any small hands picket? Oh god, all right,
Speaker 1: let's move one of those my hamm of dolphins. Speaking
Speaker 1: of here we go small hands and small quarterbacks. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so on the on the preseason line here, I was
Speaker 1: so far off of a stupid but Vegas had them
Speaker 1: five and a half. They definitely beat me on this one,
Speaker 1: we're sitting at nine and a half. As far as
Speaker 1: they were off, I was off hitven further. The last one, however,
Speaker 1: just worth mentioning. I had Baltimore minus five, Vegas having
Speaker 1: three and a half, so that landed right in the
Speaker 1: middle of us. So I think that I think that's
Speaker 1: fair enough. Nine and a half points, though, long Horn
Speaker 1: nine and a half points and division on the road,
Speaker 1: and you're nine and a half point favorites. This is
Speaker 1: getting ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It is beginning.
Speaker 3: It is beginning to get d damn digulous. And that's
Speaker 3: why this is, and I'll explain it after the drop.
Speaker 3: This is the big Dick pick of the week.
Speaker 1: Don't pop off a piece of my dick, floppy donkey Dick,
Speaker 1: sire fucking.
Speaker 2: We've mount Dick Dick.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my dick in, all right.
Speaker 3: So on this one, we are going two units on
Speaker 3: the plus nine and a half bo Stevis and we're
Speaker 3: doing a.
Speaker 2: Half half unit.
Speaker 3: We're only this half chubb, just a half chub on
Speaker 3: the money line, which is gonna be monsters. So it
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be a lot because it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a huge number. You said it, buff Buffalo coming off
Speaker 3: that huge win, huge huge win against Kansas City, and
Speaker 3: now they're laying a gigantic division number on the road
Speaker 3: down there in the heat of Miami.
Speaker 2: I know it's not super cold.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the highest number. I'm want to give
Speaker 1: it to you just because you got the balls.
Speaker 2: Make this call.
Speaker 1: I'm gonnave you plus four hundred.
Speaker 2: He oh yeah, I love a damn. That's like, that's
Speaker 2: two units.
Speaker 3: If they still doesn win, that's awesome. Yeah, this is
Speaker 3: just a huge division number down in the heat. Like
Speaker 3: I mean, even though it's not cold yet in Buffalo,
Speaker 3: I prefer this to be a December game Foreshore. Uh
Speaker 3: that that would be ideal. But well, if you look
Speaker 3: at the numbers. We talked about this a few weeks ago,
Speaker 3: and I don't remember the exact game, but Josh as
Speaker 3: a huge road favorite.
Speaker 2: It's not his spot. He's two and six ats on
Speaker 2: the road as a favorite over seven. It's just not
Speaker 2: his spot.
Speaker 3: And then you got Miami coming off of a of
Speaker 3: a blowout. It's just another trend thing, Miami coming off
Speaker 3: of a blowout. When the next game, if they're a
Speaker 3: home dog, fifteen to seven ATS, So you know, do
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: They blow a team out and they get blown out,
Speaker 1: and cause that's what I mean. They literally won million,
Speaker 1: lost by a million, and now they're dogs.
Speaker 3: I know they're a weird team, but yeah, I just
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's why I did two units on
Speaker 3: the nine and a half.
Speaker 2: It is still nine and a half, right.
Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, I just I feel good about that. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I don't feel great about them winning the game. But
Speaker 3: we've seen weird, weird shit happen in Miami in this division.
Speaker 3: Even New England was great and doing their thing. They
Speaker 3: would come down here to this fucking swamp and just
Speaker 3: fucking weird and scripting that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this one is just a big old no
Speaker 1: call for me. So power Ring is great as a
Speaker 1: no call, believe it or not. At nine and a half,
Speaker 1: it's a fair number, which is why you see nine
Speaker 1: and a half literally across the board with no juice
Speaker 1: on anything. It's just the fairest number. I've got it.
Speaker 1: Buffalo win in twenty nine to twenty that's a no
Speaker 1: call as well. It's right on the number. I've got
Speaker 1: the total. The total is it fifty. I've got a
Speaker 1: grade at forty nine that's a no call right on
Speaker 1: the number. Now, it's not a good matchup for Tuoa.
Speaker 1: It actually is a good matchup for Josh Allen, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's not been great now great this
Speaker 1: year versus a lot of teams. No, it's definitely not
Speaker 1: his best year. But he does great out good against
Speaker 1: this one. However, what does give me a little hope
Speaker 1: for your.
Speaker 3: Miami covered It's hm, isn't it. Yeah, yeah, it has
Speaker 3: to be like this is the spot for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is his spot.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Buffalo grades up pretty well against run the ball too,
Speaker 1: So I mean I think they I think that fifties
Speaker 1: live to maybe go over. I've got slightly under. But
Speaker 1: again it's a no coal within anything within one.
Speaker 3: They playing goddamn pee wee football on Denver. This is
Speaker 3: it's just I'm serious about to turn this fucking game on.
Speaker 3: I can't even this is distracting me. I can't fucking
Speaker 3: focus with with He's.
Speaker 2: Throwing bombs and the ball's just hitting the grounds.
Speaker 1: It's hanging up a star over there man talking about Bofield.
Speaker 3: He's throwing the ball like when you ever see the
Speaker 3: ball get thrown up deep and literally the nobody touches
Speaker 3: it the receiver. It wasn't overthrown, it was underthrown. Nobody
Speaker 3: touched it. It just hits the ground like that, like I'm
Speaker 3: watching a goddamn pee wee football game.
Speaker 2: It's fucking terrible.
Speaker 1: How do you overthrow a ball when you're a mile high?
Speaker 1: Like that's God damn, I can't.
Speaker 2: He's fucking so all right, carry on. Just I gut watching.
Speaker 1: So I don't disagree with your pick at all. But
Speaker 1: both the numbers printed out, It's just a big old
Speaker 1: fet no call for me. I'm not gonna have anything
Speaker 1: on this game. But again I cannot. I mean, if
Speaker 1: Buffalo covers this number, I will be fucking shocked. I
Speaker 1: really will, because this is just it's ridiculous. Number is
Speaker 1: too fucking big. It's too fucking big. So I agree
Speaker 1: with you and the way you handicap. I knew you
Speaker 1: were probably coming in on Miami, and I can't disagree.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to those New York jay
Speaker 1: E t s Jeff Jets. We trade over players the
Speaker 1: way Jets ah now preseason this, Uh, this is kind
Speaker 1: of funny. So I think, oh god, I had a
Speaker 1: minus five. Vegas had a minus two and a half.
Speaker 1: They're sitting at I believe plus two and a half
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, plus uh plus you can actually
Speaker 1: get some flat twos, all right, A serf as a
Speaker 1: flat two, West gets a flat two. So yeah, let's
Speaker 1: call it to actually because it's a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dick, all right, Well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean you still get it to And I'm looking for more.
Speaker 1: There's only one. There's some. There's a one out there.
Speaker 2: It's at two on mine. So I'll be, I'll be,
Speaker 2: I'll be fair with it. That's fine.
Speaker 3: Plus I'm seeing plus one ten am I correct on
Speaker 3: money one money line.
Speaker 2: But before we get to that, the Jets do we buy?
Speaker 2: Do we sell? Do we hold? We we? We two
Speaker 2: first round picks three years ago.
Speaker 3: We bust out two wall pros one and offense one
Speaker 3: on defense, get rid of them.
Speaker 2: We hired, we hire a good coach. We heard we
Speaker 2: hire a good coach. I get rid of wed a
Speaker 2: back coach, get rid of them. Aaron Rodgers bringing him,
Speaker 2: he's really good. Oh no, he sucks. Sell sell seal,
Speaker 2: get him.
Speaker 3: This team is they do not know. They don't know
Speaker 3: what the fuck they're doing is what it is? So
Speaker 3: and they never do they just cycle through these.
Speaker 2: Oh well, we got hope.
Speaker 3: Now we got all these first round picks, second round pick,
Speaker 3: we fleece people.
Speaker 1: We got two first round picks, Like, we just trade
Speaker 1: away two of the best people at their position. Do
Speaker 1: you think that you might get those people back at
Speaker 1: first Maybe?
Speaker 2: Maybe? But this but this is their excitement. This is
Speaker 2: their super Bowl.
Speaker 3: They they just want a super Bowl that when they
Speaker 3: make all these moves, this is when they feel the best.
Speaker 3: This is the best it gets for the Jets. If
Speaker 3: you're a Jets fan, you just want a super Bowl.
Speaker 3: You've got excitement, you've got hope. When the games happen,
Speaker 3: that's when it goes to shit. But not this week,
Speaker 3: not this week.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to happen. Now. Now we're feeling good.
Speaker 2: This is our bounce back spot. So Bill Stevens, find
Speaker 2: that sounder button and hit it when you get a chance,
Speaker 2: because I am doing it. I am picking against the
Speaker 2: coach now the Tennessee coaches fired. The coach I hate
Speaker 2: the most in this fucking league is Airing's overrated ass.
Speaker 3: Glenn Eveland does not play good defense on the road.
Speaker 3: They don't play defense on the road.
Speaker 2: And I know they lost all. I know, they lost
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: Of players, but this, this is an overreaction. There's too
Speaker 3: many points that have been that have been swapped. You
Speaker 3: got Dylan Gabriel on the road as a favorite. We're
Speaker 3: we're we're in law. We're in crazy land right now
Speaker 3: that this is not happening. Now, the Jets could fuck me.
Speaker 3: They could lose by ten, obviously, that could for sure happen.
Speaker 3: They're the underdogs for the reason.
Speaker 1: As long as they can hold Cleveland the less than
Speaker 1: thirteen I feel good about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, this was a this was gonna
Speaker 3: be in I like the Jets kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: at a low number as a favorite in this game,
Speaker 3: and just because of the Cleveland, you know, the whole
Speaker 3: Cleveland thing. And but yeah, now that we're we're getting points,
Speaker 3: way too much of an old reaction for for players, yes,
Speaker 3: really good players, but but.
Speaker 2: Zero too much, too much. So yeah, go Jets.
Speaker 1: One undercent agreement. For me, this is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite plays of the week. I just hadn't made it
Speaker 1: yet because I was hoping to see those numbers keep
Speaker 1: rising again. It looks like two and a half it's
Speaker 1: hit its head. I'm hoping some more of those become
Speaker 1: widely available as all lucks. It only went out right now,
Speaker 1: so hopefully it doesn't keep going towards the Cleveland side.
Speaker 1: Although Cleveland's still taking the money currently, so we'll see
Speaker 1: which way it goes. So hopefully it'll hopefully Cleveland continues
Speaker 1: to take the money and it well, no, I want
Speaker 1: the justice art. No, you know, we're right, Cleveland continue
Speaker 1: to take the money.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you went Cleveland to take the money so
Speaker 3: you can get it. I mean, if it was at
Speaker 3: two and a half, I was going to do one
Speaker 3: unit on the two and a half, one unit on
Speaker 3: the money line. But two is kind of that dead man.
Speaker 1: I like your I like your one ten sounder there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty seven and a Half's where the total sitting. Gross.
Speaker 1: I guess what I've got it great of going under that.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I. I've got the Jets win this game
Speaker 1: twenty to fourteen? Can they score twenty points? God only knows?
Speaker 1: Fairly confident they could hold the Browns to fourteen though,
Speaker 1: So I like that. Both quarterbacks great out flat. Uh
Speaker 1: Here's what I don't like though, It's not a good
Speaker 1: matchup for the Jets running game. I don't like that,
Speaker 1: but it's not a great matchup for Cleveland's running game either. Look,
Speaker 1: this should be a nasty one. Maybe there's it's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be like a special teams play or defensive.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be justin fields.
Speaker 3: Justin fields is your path to getting enough points to
Speaker 3: win this game. The pass rush should flush him out
Speaker 3: so that he can make some plays with his legs, because,
Speaker 3: let's face it, he sucks with his arm.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's got nothing to lose this point. But
Speaker 1: here's another reason why I really like this pick. So
Speaker 1: both these teams coming off the by and coming off
Speaker 1: the bus twenty twelve. If you were a home dog,
Speaker 1: fourteen nine and one six percent ats, if you're a
Speaker 1: road favorite thirteen fifteen to two forty six point four
Speaker 1: percent ATS. So we got trends going our way. I
Speaker 1: like the game plan going our way. I like the
Speaker 1: spot going our way. And I'm with you, it's too much.
Speaker 1: It's just too much of an no reaction. Hopefully the
Speaker 1: just don't just totally kick us in the balls once again?
Speaker 1: Is they? They have kicked me in the balls more
Speaker 1: times this season than any other team, for sure. I
Speaker 1: keep trying to like all this is the spot. This
Speaker 1: looks like it could be. It never fucking is maybe
Speaker 1: just fucking maybe. I mean, Bryce Young beat me with
Speaker 1: thirteen points, hopefully to God, Dylan Gabel can't beat me
Speaker 1: with fourteen fucking points? We score? Can we score twenty points?
Speaker 2: I think seventeen seventeen?
Speaker 1: Where's my baby, Bill, hitch drop bed.
Speaker 2: I ain't asking for the world here, I'm just asking
Speaker 2: for eight ball and two million dollars. That's seven and
Speaker 2: seventeen points.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: That back in the game.
Speaker 3: By the way, who geno back in the game and driving, driving,
Speaker 3: actually throwing the ball forward and getting yards.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't think you were allowed to
Speaker 2: do that in this game. You certainly can't wear an orange.
Speaker 1: Gino smith will less Gino. But justin fields one least rug.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I need, bitch, I need for you to do
Speaker 2: your fucking job.
Speaker 3: God, please God, just fucking run if it's not there,
Speaker 3: just I mean, carry the ball fifteen times. Carry the
Speaker 3: ball fifteen fucking times. You'll get five yards on average
Speaker 3: every time you do it. Move the sticks, kick the field, goals,
Speaker 3: get the win.
Speaker 1: For the love of God, all right, speaking of the
Speaker 1: love of God, Houston Jacksonville, so Houston. Those Houston Texans
Speaker 1: with an H don't know if their quarterback is gonna
Speaker 1: be in on this one. I feel still hanging on
Speaker 1: as the favorite here. Minus one across the board pretty flat.
Speaker 1: Surkha's got a pick, so they're heading harder than anybody else.
Speaker 1: But that ain't much of a hedge Longhorn, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you. Now, the preseason line, obviously that's with
Speaker 1: the quarterback. So let's think about this preseason line with
Speaker 1: the quarterback. In all things being equal, I had Jacksonville
Speaker 1: plus six. Vegas had a plus three and a half.
Speaker 1: Let's say Vegas is more right than me. And we're
Speaker 1: looking at four and a half points from uh CJ
Speaker 1: to Davis Mills. It seems rich for as bad as
Speaker 1: CJ has been playing. But we saw, we all got
Speaker 1: a good reminder of Davis Mills last week, and how
Speaker 1: fucking on He's not even an NFL quarterback. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can say CJ is not having a good year, but
Speaker 1: he at least is an NFL quarterback. Davis Mills is
Speaker 1: not an NFL quarterback at all in any capacity. And
Speaker 1: this Jacksonville defense. Longhorn has been heating up and heating
Speaker 1: up and heating up. His pastor has been heating up. Dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how you get
Speaker 1: back Davis Mills. I really just don't, especially at one point,
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know how either.
Speaker 3: I don't know why it's gone down to pick when
Speaker 3: it's it's it's gonna be Davis Mills.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that that's I mean.
Speaker 1: Seven and a half by the way, another just gross
Speaker 1: ass fucking.
Speaker 3: I was kind of way to get like the two
Speaker 3: to two and a half with Houston and then and
Speaker 3: fire on that, and we're we're down to pick.
Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't like. I don't like this
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 3: So I'm staying away for this until I get some
Speaker 3: some more information. But it just and this one if
Speaker 3: it gets to Houston Houston plus two, I mean, like
Speaker 3: taking t L as a road favorite against this defense
Speaker 3: just doesn't feel right. But then yeah, you but then
Speaker 3: you have to feel good about Davis Mills on the
Speaker 3: other side. And I don't want any Look, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna be bet in this game. So we don't have
Speaker 3: to spend a lot of time on it. It's it's
Speaker 3: a kind of a stay away from me and and
Speaker 3: the Houston Texans broke my heart last week when they
Speaker 3: were for sure gonna beat this fucking shitty ass Denver team.
Speaker 3: If Stroud doesn't get hurt in the first quarter, it's
Speaker 3: not a doubt in my mind that they beat Denver.
Speaker 1: And until my mind as Denver makes Las Vegas, I.
Speaker 2: Told you don't win this game like it's what's looking like.
Speaker 1: Or or Bow is gonna get He's gonna throw screen
Speaker 1: pass here in a second that goes for seventy yards
Speaker 1: and they'll win seventeen to seven.
Speaker 2: He is fourteen for twenty five per one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty seven yards.
Speaker 1: Is that good?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to those. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to a game that should be an entertaining one. Those
Speaker 1: Tampa Bakers coming fresh off the BA House and nose
Speaker 1: upstart surprise, kick me in the balls, New England.
Speaker 3: Super Bowl preview question mark question mark.
Speaker 1: Well maybe so, maybe so we'll see, all right. Preseason
Speaker 1: line on this tack down quite a bit. I had
Speaker 1: tam a minus five. Vegas had a minus four and
Speaker 1: a half or sit at two and a half. Obviously
Speaker 1: huge upgrade. It's all all the upgrade is on the
Speaker 1: New England side. Obviously from the preseason look ahead to this,
Speaker 1: uh total sitting at forty eight. Holy shit, we gotta
Speaker 1: we got a total in the forties. I swear to god,
Speaker 1: I thought we were done seeing totals in the thirties
Speaker 1: like four years ago, unless it was a snowstorm or
Speaker 1: half a team died. And we've got totals in the
Speaker 1: thirties all up and down the fucking card. But at
Speaker 1: least this one is a real fucking It's a real
Speaker 1: fucking number forty eight. So what you got on this
Speaker 1: long one?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I was trying to find I'll have to pull that
Speaker 3: up whenever you're doing that.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I think Tampa Bay is getting Guardeki backed if that's
Speaker 3: how you pronounce his name, the offensive tackle, so they
Speaker 3: should be healthy there.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 3: Godwin is ruled out so they're not getting him back,
Speaker 3: which they hope.
Speaker 1: They said he's not going to come back for like
Speaker 1: another four weeks.
Speaker 3: Right, so, but they are healthier than they were coming
Speaker 3: off the by and obviously with New England, you're concerned
Speaker 3: with New England. They haven't had a letdown spot, which
Speaker 3: we've kind of or at least I have certainly tried
Speaker 3: to find that letdown spot at times during this winning streak.
Speaker 2: Just hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: Let down. Last week in Atlanta, d May didn't play
Speaker 1: his best game.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 3: For sure, well for sure, but it did take you know,
Speaker 3: three touchdowns to one guy and kind of throw up.
Speaker 3: But they just keep winning, is the point, and you
Speaker 3: know they're but but this is a huge step up
Speaker 3: in competition and the only win that they have really
Speaker 3: on their entire board is the Buffalo win, which was
Speaker 3: which was very impressive. So I want to look this
Speaker 3: is this is gonna be my fid in the middle.
Speaker 3: You know, there's I'm on a lot of teachers this week.
Speaker 3: I'm not playing back the other sides on very many
Speaker 3: of them, if any, but this one I will be.
Speaker 3: So I'm gimme Tampa. Where the points are, you know,
Speaker 3: minus two mins two and a half. Well, I'll see
Speaker 3: what this line does. Because I've already teased up New
Speaker 3: England to the eight and a half. I would love
Speaker 3: to see this tick.
Speaker 2: Down to one and a half on Tampa.
Speaker 3: Maybe you buy down to one, maybe you just bust
Speaker 3: out the money line at that point. But I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be trying to play both sides of this game because
Speaker 3: I think Tampa in a close game, which I think
Speaker 3: we think this is gonna be because it's two really
Speaker 3: good teams. You know, you got Baker in a close game.
Speaker 3: That's kind of the spot you want to be at.
Speaker 3: It's just just that's just what he thrives on and
Speaker 3: h But but since I do think it's gonna be
Speaker 3: close game and I think they can keep it close,
Speaker 3: it's the plus eight and a half on the teaser
Speaker 3: side feels really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was just looking up their schedule. This
Speaker 1: is gonna shock you because it just shocked me and
Speaker 1: you just kind of mentioned it. New England per dB
Speaker 1: A has played the hardest schedule so far in the
Speaker 1: National Football League.
Speaker 2: How they've beaten Tennessee the Saints.
Speaker 1: How Buffalo's played the thirty the second hardest schedule in
Speaker 1: all of so interception brownicks by the way, Oh wait wait, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, easiest, my bad numbers backers. They played the
Speaker 1: schedule Buffalos played the second easiest, cause yeah, they played
Speaker 1: the easiest.
Speaker 2: Guy about to say, because they have played all the
Speaker 2: worst teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew, I knew that had to be wrong.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't feel right. Tampa Bay, on
Speaker 1: the flip side of that, has played the seventh hardest schedule,
Speaker 1: which we mentioned that in the preseason, like, hey, don't
Speaker 1: be surprised that Tampa Bay team starts out possibly two
Speaker 1: and four with this early schedule, because it is a
Speaker 1: fucking murderers row. They've walked out of it in handsome
Speaker 1: fashion with the seventh hardest schedule. Going forward, Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: has the seventh easiest schedule. And again we talked about
Speaker 1: the preseason, the back half after they're by this is
Speaker 1: really where Tama Bay was supposed to start rolling, Like
Speaker 1: this division was supposed to be kind of middling. They're
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh my god, what's wrong with Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay and blah blah blah blah, Hey, just hang on,
Speaker 1: don't pay if they start down you know too early,
Speaker 1: they'll be all right. Well, they've been better than alright,
Speaker 1: and now they're supposed to be on easy Street for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. So your Super Bowl preview,
Speaker 1: at least on the NFC side, could come to fruition there,
Speaker 1: my friend, because Tampa Bay has gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: easy cakes in front of them, and like you said,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get healthier than being getting healthier, and they're
Speaker 1: not gonna get Mike Evans back. That is a big
Speaker 1: chink in that armor.
Speaker 2: He could come back for the playoffs, though, right I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I think if he I mean, they're gonna
Speaker 3: wait the playoffs, so maybe it's a chance he comes
Speaker 3: back at some point this season.
Speaker 1: I do like your teaser here though, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to bet Tampa Bay. I couldn't just because of the
Speaker 1: spot and then with the numbers. Now, the power rings
Speaker 1: that have Tampa Bay and my power rings has been
Speaker 1: very good this year. Just straight up, you just bet them,
Speaker 1: we would definitely be up on the year instead of
Speaker 1: where we're at total forty eight. I've got it going
Speaker 1: quite a bit under that, which kind of scares me
Speaker 1: when I see the numbers this far apart. But I've
Speaker 1: got it a tie game Tampa Bay twenty to twenty. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a good matchup for Baker, it's a flat
Speaker 1: matchup for Drake May, but it's a bad matchup for
Speaker 1: both these running games here. So you know, this New
Speaker 1: England secondary, we've talked about it and talked about it,
Speaker 1: talked about a nauseom. It's not very good. Pretty much
Speaker 1: everybody makes yards on them, sports points on them through
Speaker 1: the secondary. The run defense has been stout. It's going
Speaker 1: to continue to be here. We have seen the Sampa
Speaker 1: Bay offense sputter at times when they can't get the
Speaker 1: running game going, but we've also seen the same thing
Speaker 1: for New England. So that's the reason why I do
Speaker 1: think the under is really in play here. That actually
Speaker 1: might make my card. And if you look at the
Speaker 1: spot since twenty twenty one, coming off off the buy
Speaker 1: home favored again twenty two to twenty eight and two,
Speaker 1: that was the spot we talked about for Detroit last
Speaker 1: week obviously got them. Tampa Bay is in that same
Speaker 1: spot average line of six and a half or sitting
Speaker 1: at two and a half on this one. So that
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit of hope though, because the
Speaker 1: cover line is flat on that so at six and
Speaker 1: a half. So technically because they're thirty nine thirteen to
Speaker 1: seventy five percent straight up winning by six points six
Speaker 1: points a game for six and a half points a game,
Speaker 1: so you could see a Tampa cover here. I like
Speaker 1: your teasers. I really like this teacher spot. I don't
Speaker 1: see them winning by margin, So I think it's a
Speaker 1: close game field goal. If I had to bet it,
Speaker 1: straight up, give me Baker less than a field goal
Speaker 1: at home almost always, even against a really good coach defense,
Speaker 1: because again, there are holes in the secondary, and Baker
Speaker 1: has shown that he can exploit that. He's done it
Speaker 1: all season long against a lot better competition. So I'll
Speaker 1: lean on the competition factor and the fact that I
Speaker 1: can trust Baker at home and Drake mayhe is on
Speaker 1: the road. He's still young quarterback. He's having a great season.
Speaker 1: Not knocking him at all, but you know, situationally, I'll
Speaker 1: take Tampa Bay there on a lean. Kind of really
Speaker 1: like that under the long worn I kind of really
Speaker 1: like that big number.
Speaker 2: It's a big number.
Speaker 1: It's a big number. All right, Let's move on to
Speaker 1: those Carolina Panthers game of the week hosting those New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2: My Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's your Carolina Panthers. He's claiming them again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: funny on this one. I'm I was quite a bit off.
Speaker 1: I'm in New Orleans derailed. I knew they were bad,
Speaker 1: but Carolina's better than I thought they were gonna be.
Speaker 1: They said at four and a half, it's sitting at
Speaker 1: five and a half currently, pretty much across the boards.
Speaker 1: What do you got on this one long morning?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be on Carolina in this game. It's
Speaker 3: kind of one of those pick or poison spots that
Speaker 3: we've been talking about. It's like, you know, Carolina is
Speaker 3: all of this, although at home they're way way better
Speaker 3: than they are on the road. They also don't cover,
Speaker 3: so they just they're not They do not covered and
Speaker 3: not a covering team, although they.
Speaker 1: Are football every week. Though, that is my question, who
Speaker 1: Carolina because they're playing the worst team in football this week?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I mean that helps New Orleans
Speaker 3: can't stop the look, it really shouldn't matter with brysh
Speaker 3: This is not gonna be a Bruyshong game. This is
Speaker 3: gonna be just run the ball, run the ball, run
Speaker 3: the ball, by the way, which makes a lot of
Speaker 3: sense because the Saints can't score.
Speaker 2: We don't know how bad the Saints quarterback is. If
Speaker 2: this was.
Speaker 3: Rattler and you're getting what is it five and a half?
Speaker 3: The current Like that's a rattler line. For sure, you're
Speaker 3: gonna be probably leaning towards New New Orleans on that one, right,
Speaker 3: it'd probably be what what I mean, was it a
Speaker 3: two point difference in these guys?
Speaker 1: Maybe the pre the preseason line was four and a half.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta think it's to that.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so yeah, can can Tyler I fucking suck shuck?
Speaker 2: Can he just go out there and ball against a
Speaker 2: good defense?
Speaker 3: Now, let's let's call Carolina good deal a good defense.
Speaker 2: Oh then there you go, so like so, but you
Speaker 2: know the NFL, anything can happen. Yeah, it could happen.
Speaker 2: I'm not counting on it. I'm not betting to let.
Speaker 1: Them go shut down a really good offense in Green
Speaker 1: Bay on the road, on the road and like a
Speaker 1: million turnovers. It was like love was throwing the ball
Speaker 1: over the place. They couldn't get.
Speaker 2: First owns, the play to play.
Speaker 3: They're sound, they're never at a position you don't see
Speaker 3: the just busted plays against them.
Speaker 2: And they're good.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing, like a like a defense that
Speaker 3: fights hard, plays hard. If you're losing, you'll start to
Speaker 3: get the give up n they're five and four, they're
Speaker 3: they're you know, I know Tampa Bay is kind of
Speaker 3: running away with this division, but they keep doing this.
Speaker 3: Win this game for six or four, you're in the
Speaker 3: wild card position for sure. Yeah, it's it's no give
Speaker 3: up on defense, is what I'm saying. So, Tyler Schuck,
Speaker 3: you're in. You're in for a rough one.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine what the conversation would be if if
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay season went the way we thought it might
Speaker 1: go and they would have lost against those really good
Speaker 1: those you know, coin flip games.
Speaker 2: Really good teams if they're both five and four, yeah,
Speaker 2: or Tampa sitting at four and five, yeah or four
Speaker 2: whatever like yeah.
Speaker 1: This this will be a hold different conversation. Right now.
Speaker 1: I know I don't have much in this game because
Speaker 1: I don't have anything great shuck on except in fact,
Speaker 1: these fucking sucks. But I will say this, this is
Speaker 1: the absolute worst spot possible for the Saints. I mean,
Speaker 1: for yeah, for the Saints since twenty twenty one. If
Speaker 1: you're going on the by and you're a road dog,
Speaker 1: twelve and twenty two eight cs not covering, not covering
Speaker 1: by four point two points per game on an average
Speaker 1: line of five point eight. We're sitting at five and
Speaker 1: a half. They're losing this game on average by ten
Speaker 1: points nine to twenty five. Straight up. Yikes, fucking yikes.
Speaker 1: If you had like a pleaser, I wouldn't never call
Speaker 1: a pleaser for Carolina. But this is one of those
Speaker 1: situations where I think if New Orleans goes down like this,
Speaker 1: they're going down all the.
Speaker 2: Way and not and not that it matters a lot.
Speaker 3: New or traded one of those first round offensive linemen
Speaker 3: and during the during the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: To the charters, he wasn't good.
Speaker 3: But the guy that they're putting in there is like,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a forty two point six on PFF,
Speaker 3: so he's even worse. But the signal to the team is, oh,
Speaker 3: there's yeah, they can they can get in the thirties.
Speaker 3: I've seen people in the thirties. Now, what is the
Speaker 3: signal to a team that's one in eight?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, but like you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's probably not we don't think things.
Speaker 1: Are going well? What do you mean things aren't going well?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: We won one?
Speaker 3: Why didn't the Saint's trade for Sauce Gardener I didn't
Speaker 3: give up two first, I don't know if it's you
Speaker 3: could have gone all in.
Speaker 1: Well management, you don't have any faith in us? Is bullshit?
Speaker 2: Now I will say, why the fuck is Alvin kamaras?
Speaker 2: They're still on this team? I did.
Speaker 3: I did that video in the in the preseason that
Speaker 3: Kamara was either going to go to the the Chicago
Speaker 3: Bears or the Dallas Cowboys, because at that time I
Speaker 3: thought that the Dallas might be.
Speaker 2: At least in the hunt. And we'll see it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, why is he still there? Why are you
Speaker 3: still on the Saints? It makes no sense. They should
Speaker 3: have got whatever they can get for him. Maybe he
Speaker 3: doesn't want to go. Maybe he said, I don't don't
Speaker 3: trade me.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: Who knows he likes the food, man, it's good cooking
Speaker 1: down there in New Orleans. Why would you want to
Speaker 1: leave it?
Speaker 2: I guess all.
Speaker 1: Right, let's move on to those Chicago bess post of
Speaker 1: those New York football giants. Now this game, Uh, let's
Speaker 1: see where we're at. Preseason, I had, oh god, I
Speaker 1: had Chicago minus seven. Vegas had a minus five and
Speaker 1: a half. They're sitting at four and a half currently
Speaker 1: across the board, bothought us in at five. If you
Speaker 1: like the Giants shop around a little bit, but literally
Speaker 1: that's the only five left on the board. So it
Speaker 1: opened at three and a half. World Open immediately took
Speaker 1: all the Bears money sent it four and a half,
Speaker 1: and it looks like we're banging its head on the top.
Speaker 1: If you look at where the money's coming in now,
Speaker 1: it is currently now coming back in on the Giants.
Speaker 1: So we definitely have hit the top of the market,
Speaker 1: long Horn. So four and a half the best you're
Speaker 1: gonna get. I feel confident from that on the Giants.
Speaker 1: If you want them, you better grab them at that number.
Speaker 1: What do you like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why. I don't have a reason to
Speaker 3: not be on Chicago here, I really don't. This is
Speaker 3: gonna be a weather game, definitely cold, possible snow, and
Speaker 3: we've got the running game of Chicago, which if you're
Speaker 3: not paying attention that this running game, and with the
Speaker 3: struggles of Detroit, it's weird how Detroit's having problems with
Speaker 3: their running game and Chicago's becoming one of the juggernauts
Speaker 3: running the ball. Maybe Ben Johnson is more than just
Speaker 3: a crazy plays and and throw the ball around the ard.
Speaker 2: Maybe he has a.
Speaker 1: Little screen pass to your quarterback.
Speaker 3: Caleb had two receptions last week, so the crazy ones
Speaker 3: in there, they're.
Speaker 2: Crazy was there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I I want I want to be
Speaker 3: on like I want to fade the Giants so bad
Speaker 3: right now. And I know that Jackson Dart has he's
Speaker 3: proven that he's going to be the quarterback going forward,
Speaker 3: at least in the immediate future. But you can only
Speaker 3: lose so many key players, and you can only keep
Speaker 3: losing so many games where at some point that the
Speaker 3: just the rails come off the pass rush that is.
Speaker 2: Their forte on the defensive line.
Speaker 3: You know, you keep losing games that maybe you lose
Speaker 3: half a step on on that one to go get
Speaker 3: the quarterback. I don't know, man, Just for me, it's
Speaker 3: all Chicago. The fact that the line is kind of
Speaker 3: bouncing back and forth and hitting his head as you said,
Speaker 3: that makes me have some pause because you know, I
Speaker 3: don't like to go against you know, uh, sharp money necessarily,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I want to.
Speaker 1: I mean the sharp money came in early all on
Speaker 1: Chicago to get it to four and a half. Now
Speaker 1: that's where it's sitting there, So you you probably have
Speaker 1: some sharp five back now, you know, because if you
Speaker 1: got in at Chicago minus three and a half, all
Speaker 1: the sharps, they're probably fiddling.
Speaker 2: In the middle here on those on those key numbers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can see that. So yeah, I'm gonna be on Chicago. Oh,
Speaker 2: in my last point.
Speaker 1: Vegas is mega fun, is what I think.
Speaker 3: My last point, And let me flip it to Chicago.
Speaker 3: On defense, Yeah, I don't know what is. I don't
Speaker 3: know what is what their first names are because I've
Speaker 3: TJ Edwards and and Edmunds the linebackers for Chicago, and
Speaker 3: I can't remember Evans first name. I'm I apologize, but
Speaker 3: basically my point was Jackson Dark, him running and creating
Speaker 3: plays with his legs is kind of been like everything
Speaker 3: for this team. Him and Scatabo had some things in
Speaker 3: the passing game blah blah blah, but like right now,
Speaker 3: it's basically Jackson Dark creating plays. You got two highly
Speaker 3: highly athletic linebackers who each could play spy on Jackson
Speaker 3: Dart and I and they're both great out very well
Speaker 3: this year. So that's really what I want to see.
Speaker 3: Are they are they greating out well? They both are.
Speaker 3: I think that one of those will take away that
Speaker 3: scrambling ability for the Giants, and I just don't see
Speaker 3: how they score. And now I know the Giants defens
Speaker 3: is not good, but it is Jackson Dark creating plays
Speaker 3: with his legs that's leading to the point. So if
Speaker 3: they can minimize that with it with good linebacker spies,
Speaker 3: I just it's all. It's all Bears for me.
Speaker 1: So power Rings got the Bears. I've got it graded
Speaker 1: over the forty six and a half. But the weather,
Speaker 1: obviously you got to keep an eye on that. But
Speaker 1: I've got Chicago win this game twenty six to twenty three,
Speaker 1: which would be in the cover for the Giants. The
Speaker 1: reason because this won't be the best matchup for Sugar Britches.
Speaker 1: He greis up flat and it's actually really good matchup
Speaker 1: for Dark. Chicago's so bad against the past they are
Speaker 1: twenty ninth and success rate against the past they're awful, awful, awful.
Speaker 1: But on the flip side of that, you've got the
Speaker 1: dead ass last defense against Russian sucess rate the Giants.
Speaker 1: They gained the Bears game three points to the VPG
Speaker 1: on the running game. In this game, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to run and run and run and run some
Speaker 1: more and continue to run. And we've seen this's Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson offense, whether be in Detroit or be in Chicago.
Speaker 1: If you get a matchup like this for the running
Speaker 1: games working, you know you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: stop them from scoring. So it is gonna be off.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be up to Dart to cover this spread.
Speaker 1: He's not being able to run on this defense at all.
Speaker 1: But the Giants. The Giants running game also grades up
Speaker 1: plus one two because the Bears stink against the fucking
Speaker 1: run as well. Now they're not as bad as the Giants,
Speaker 1: they're not good, and they're worse against the Giants in
Speaker 1: the past. So dark does have an avenue for successor
Speaker 1: they do have an avenue to put up some points.
Speaker 1: That's why it's going over grading over again. Weather permitting,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep an eye on that. But if the
Speaker 1: weather does get bad, Chicago's going to just be able
Speaker 1: to run and run and run until they hit their
Speaker 1: head on the goalpost multiple fucking times. Because there is
Speaker 1: nothing There is nothing as bad as the Giants defense.
Speaker 1: Is not just that it's a matchup two, it's a
Speaker 1: terrible matchup scheme wise, there is literally nothing the Giants
Speaker 1: are gonna be able to do to stop Chicago for
Speaker 1: running the ball. I don't even know who their best
Speaker 1: running back is or who gets the majority of the carries.
Speaker 1: I don't do the fucking player props, but I know
Speaker 1: ckv all over it. All I'm saying is you got
Speaker 1: some daily ship out there, grab a Chicago running back,
Speaker 1: do your research. Whoever gets the most shit or whatever,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna. They're all gonna have success. They're
Speaker 1: all gonna have success.
Speaker 3: Well, the Monong guy kid is kind of and he
Speaker 3: fits that hammer that that I was talking about, and
Speaker 3: he's he's kind of taken over.
Speaker 2: Him's two hundred yards from scrimmage, I think last week.
Speaker 2: But c J.
Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson the Bears. You're talking about the Bears being
Speaker 3: bad on on in the secondary. They're so bad at
Speaker 3: c J. Gardner Johnson. I think he's his eighteenth team
Speaker 3: in three years that he's been on. So that's how
Speaker 3: bad they are in the secondary.
Speaker 2: They got to bring in c. J.
Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson, now, which when he's good, he's good. When
Speaker 3: he's bad, he's so fucking bad.
Speaker 1: Well, they're bad at the unit period.
Speaker 2: I know it's worth it's worth a shot there.
Speaker 1: There is an avenue for New York to cover this
Speaker 1: game we talked about last week. You know, they're still
Speaker 1: pesky man, they're still passing. You know, the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers game got away from him. That was just a
Speaker 1: bad spot for them. It was a good spuffer, san fran.
Speaker 3: I don't feel great about the Land of put Like
Speaker 3: it's just because because yeah, the Giants are just they
Speaker 3: just don't seem to ever go away.
Speaker 2: But I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: And it was a decent matchup for the mcookie monster
Speaker 1: last week versus John. It's not a good match up
Speaker 1: for Caleb. So like it's gonna have to be this
Speaker 1: running which they're gonna be able to run the ball fine,
Speaker 1: but like if Caleb can't just at least contribute, then
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for them to score again. Cover
Speaker 1: this number because the Giants are gonna be able to
Speaker 1: move the football against Steff, they are gonna be able
Speaker 1: to score the ball. We've seen Jackson dark, he's got
Speaker 1: some guns from to him. He makes plays. He is
Speaker 1: gonna be able to make plays in this game.
Speaker 2: So I.
Speaker 1: Perform his numbers.
Speaker 2: Ten to seventh final.
Speaker 1: Do I get any credit for calling that like.
Speaker 2: An hour and a half ago, I mean you should.
Speaker 2: This is I'm not kidding this.
Speaker 1: They go under though, did it go under?
Speaker 2: This might be the worst football game I've everyone Raiders covered.
Speaker 2: You think they almost covered? If if Denver?
Speaker 3: Yeah, without scoring without scoring point, without scoring a point,
Speaker 3: they almost covered.
Speaker 2: Like this is what is Denver gonna do? We'll talking
Speaker 2: about baby.
Speaker 1: Those Broncos are eight and to they're coming.
Speaker 2: This is pathetic.
Speaker 3: This is this is pathetic. Drops on bone next sorry ass.
Speaker 1: See yeah, you're you're let's see looking for sorry drops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy shucked. He fucking shuts.
Speaker 1: Oh god, here's uh Sean Payton after drafted, immediately regrets this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and here's here's everybody when they talk about bonus.
Speaker 1: Retard, he was a guitar.
Speaker 2: He was a rettard.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to you know a good
Speaker 1: football team. They'll Seeattle Seahawks. They are hosting those Arizona
Speaker 1: midgetless Cardinals. Thankfully for them. I wish the mission would
Speaker 1: have been in there. We probably would won that game
Speaker 1: of money. Not long horn almost since Jacoby Brissette came in.
Speaker 1: I don't know, they're scoring twenty five points game. They
Speaker 1: looked like a real football Who knew that if he
Speaker 1: threw the ball to your best player, I don't know,
Speaker 1: good things could happen.
Speaker 3: He might half he can't fucking see them. And I'm
Speaker 3: not I'm not even doing that to be like it's
Speaker 3: it's it's a real thing.
Speaker 2: Now it's over real thing.
Speaker 1: I mean Marvin Harrison literally had his best half of
Speaker 1: his entire career again against the Cowboys secondary.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's played bad teams with Kyler and hasn't done
Speaker 3: that like this this it's he sucks the color things done.
Speaker 3: He got sent to the eye on are I are
Speaker 3: it's a fake?
Speaker 2: I are? Uh.
Speaker 3: He was supposed to have a chance to play last
Speaker 3: week against the Cowboys, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: they make the announcement Brissett's gonna be our starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we gotta put color on on the hour.
Speaker 3: Bullshit, he's he's His career with the Cardinals is done.
Speaker 3: I would never pick him up anywhere. Like the book
Speaker 3: is out on him. You cannot have a quarterback that
Speaker 3: short and that little.
Speaker 2: It just he's done.
Speaker 3: Amazing with what he's had, Like he's been a starter
Speaker 3: for like what six years now, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just that though the book on him
Speaker 1: always was he was not a studier. Yes he wasn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a you know, Brady and Manny and all
Speaker 1: the all the greats and Breeze tiny average.
Speaker 2: So you would think if you're five to eight, maybe
Speaker 2: you do a little studying to to like you know,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you try to like overcome.
Speaker 3: But now he's like, nah, I'm gonna play some call
Speaker 3: of duty. I'm gonna roll out there five to eight.
Speaker 3: I can't see anybody over the line, So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: scram around and do little circus midget circle and maybe
Speaker 3: I'll maybe I'll find somebody. Maybe I don't, Maybe I don't,
Speaker 3: but like it's just it's done.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any more set up
Speaker 2: on this, but yeah, he sucks so bad.
Speaker 1: No, just like you just hear those guys talk about being,
Speaker 1: you know, a student of your craft, and those are
Speaker 1: the best that ever did it, that had all the
Speaker 1: physical building. Not Drew Brees perhaps, but even the guys
Speaker 1: that have all the physical building in the world, six
Speaker 1: foot five, fucking big arms, tough, strong, I mean, like
Speaker 1: those guys were just they talk about being a student
Speaker 1: of the craft and being so dedicated to and it
Speaker 1: takes that to be great. Like you said, he's five eight,
Speaker 1: and yeah, his athleticism and all his midget shuffling saved
Speaker 1: him for a long time, won him a lot of
Speaker 1: football games that made a lot of highlights, you know,
Speaker 1: and quite frank, over the years, made us a lot
Speaker 1: of money. I mean it used to be coler as
Speaker 1: adult collers, a dog, collars a dog. That was a spot.
Speaker 1: We made a lot of money on that. And he
Speaker 1: at some point, though, did you just lose a little
Speaker 1: bit of that athleticism? And all it takes in this
Speaker 1: league is half a step. It's all it taste. You
Speaker 1: lose half a step, which is another reason Lamar does
Speaker 1: is still so amazing because this many years in he's
Speaker 1: still just as quick, just as explosive as he ever
Speaker 1: has been, Like he hasn't lost anything, which is fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't even know how that's possible.
Speaker 1: He's a unicorn, But yeah, collar when you're tiny you
Speaker 1: lose half a step, you already fucking can't see your toast.
Speaker 1: So all right, on this one, Seattle is laying six
Speaker 1: and a half. I believe across the board opened at
Speaker 1: six went six and a half. Now I say that
Speaker 1: it is climbing. It is climbing. Juice coming in on
Speaker 1: six and a half up to seven at Heritage minus
Speaker 1: won twenty six and a half at DK it's already
Speaker 1: at seven at circa flat. So we're we're looking at
Speaker 1: going to seven here, boys and girls. So we'll call
Speaker 1: it six point seven right now. But what you got
Speaker 1: on this one one more?
Speaker 3: Well, he can just keep on climbing because this is
Speaker 3: the first of two Danger's game with a week, all right,
Speaker 3: so we can we can call both these I usually
Speaker 3: go Maverick goose.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do them both goose because both of.
Speaker 3: My uh danger zones deal with backup quarterbacks, so we're
Speaker 3: going with them. We're gonna just two backup two gooses,
Speaker 3: uh on this one. And yeah, with Brissette, we talked
Speaker 3: about it. They look like a real team. They actually
Speaker 3: look like a real.
Speaker 1: Team, and they.
Speaker 3: Score and and you know, football is football is such
Speaker 3: a you know, everything has to work together offense defense.
Speaker 3: Most teams when everything is flowing, everything's going together, this
Speaker 3: might I think Arizona's gonna be the most buy on
Speaker 3: team for me the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: And for a few a couple of reasons. Number one,
Speaker 2: the Bsette thing.
Speaker 3: They look at a real team running the ball, even
Speaker 3: with their third and fourth running backs Bam Knight and
Speaker 3: De Mercado, they're just fucking chewing up people in the
Speaker 3: running game. And he talked about, you know, Marvin Harrison
Speaker 3: actually being what he was always as a wide receiver,
Speaker 3: and then Trey mc bride's being a beast no matter what.
Speaker 2: So this is a real offense now, uh. And then
Speaker 2: on the defensive side, Walter Nolan, Walter Nolan, Walton Nolan.
Speaker 2: Nine percent of you people don't know who that is.
Speaker 2: He played his first game last week, the game as
Speaker 2: a rookie. This dude is just.
Speaker 3: Think of Warren Sapp type defensive just disruptor defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Who get I'm probably gonna get this wrong. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna ole.
Speaker 2: Miss yeah ole, miss very good, very good.
Speaker 3: And in the preseason when I was flirting with picking
Speaker 3: Arizona to win this division, before I came to my
Speaker 3: senses and remember that they have a midget quarterback, and
Speaker 3: why would I ever do that? It was it was
Speaker 3: because of this defense, and and now we're starting to
Speaker 3: see this this defense coming to form. He's kind of
Speaker 3: like the last piece along with getting healthy on the
Speaker 3: back end. They had some injuries they were dealing with
Speaker 3: in the secondary in the eard of the year. That
Speaker 3: that that these players have come back. I think Arizona
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite second half of this season.
Speaker 3: Play on teams and I like them.
Speaker 2: I'm going two units on the here's the deal though,
Speaker 2: it's it's steam into seven, correct, But you're not gonna
Speaker 2: give me seven? Are you?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm feelings?
Speaker 2: All right? Then give me two units on the seven.
Speaker 2: Give me give me who you know what? Seattle loses
Speaker 2: games at home, This is not their spot. Give me
Speaker 2: give me one unit on the on the money.
Speaker 3: Line too, because like we've seen Seattle, if they're gonna
Speaker 3: lay a dud, it's been at home. They've been dominant
Speaker 3: on the road, they lay duds at home. Give me
Speaker 3: a unit on the money line for Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Two right, uh no? To sixty three?
Speaker 3: Two sixty three and I will look up their other
Speaker 3: loss because I can't'm drumning black. I know they lost
Speaker 3: in Tampa and oh Sam Fran at home, so mother
Speaker 3: losses have been at home.
Speaker 1: That was the first was the first first game. It
Speaker 1: was the first game they always like, I think that's
Speaker 1: two years ago. They've lost to San Fran. Oh game
Speaker 1: like opening game at home two years ago.
Speaker 3: So you uh take it away and tell me how
Speaker 3: you kind of gig around poo poo all on my
Speaker 3: danger Zone pick of the week.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not get a poopo. Now the power Regan's
Speaker 1: dos does does have Seattle, but again a lot of
Speaker 1: status with Kyler in there too. Now forty four and
Speaker 1: a half, what we're sitting at the total I've got
Speaker 1: it actually Seattle twenty two, twenty two, so tyd So
Speaker 1: I think Longhorns plus seven definitely has legs. I like
Speaker 1: that bet a lot. Actually a couple of reasons why
Speaker 1: Number one Sammy d I don't know. He might be
Speaker 1: the MVP, might be the best quarterback going right now
Speaker 1: in football, but this is not a good matchup for him,
Speaker 1: and it's all matchup base. If you talked about Arizona's defense,
Speaker 1: it is getting better. However, you know, it's still not
Speaker 1: grading out great, especially drop back success. For there's still
Speaker 1: twenty fourth in the league. Now they started towards the bottom,
Speaker 1: so they are getting better. But this particularly matchup base
Speaker 1: against what sam Ronald does well and what Arizona's defense
Speaker 1: does well and does the most, not a good matchup
Speaker 1: for him. So he loses the point and a half
Speaker 1: of the BBG. Jacoby sent grades out his flat and
Speaker 1: the other part that I think that it gives credence
Speaker 1: to the Arizona pick is that you know, Seattle Gray's
Speaker 1: out flat running the ball against this defense. Now Arizona
Speaker 1: doesn't grade out particularly whether they lose half a point,
Speaker 1: which is not much to the BBG. In the running game,
Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to run it well enough
Speaker 1: if Jakob just goes out there and plays like here's how,
Speaker 1: here's how Arizona covers. They just play their game. If
Speaker 1: they play the normal football game. Again, long run is
Speaker 1: a bad matchup for Sammy d. So if they play
Speaker 1: the normal football game, I think Arizona absolutely covers this game.
Speaker 1: I've got a great out two. I need to hear
Speaker 1: that part. So actually graded out of the tie, which
Speaker 1: is a no call in the total forty four and
Speaker 1: a half because Seattle not only the same to D
Speaker 1: grade out bad, Seattle doesn't grade out well to run
Speaker 1: the ball here too. So if they can't run the
Speaker 1: ball and it's a bad matchup for Sammy D, they'll
Speaker 1: still score their points because they're I mean, Jackson Smith
Speaker 1: and Jigbob. I don't know this kid. He's unstoppable, like
Speaker 1: literally unstoppable.
Speaker 3: Now you can't ninety two point seven PFF grade number.
Speaker 1: Two that the other the day has, like the he's
Speaker 1: the number one yards per scrimming yards per route run receiver.
Speaker 1: Like he's trending like towards all like an all time
Speaker 1: yards per route run season. It is fucking insane what
Speaker 1: he's doing. Every time he runs a route, it's like
Speaker 1: over three yards, which is unheard of in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's called that's college shit. That's like college Marvin Harrison shit.
Speaker 1: Like that's video game bullshit. Every time you run a route,
Speaker 1: you gain three not I don't care if you throw
Speaker 1: it to me, not every time I run a route.
Speaker 1: That's what it can't like, So anything three yards is insane.
Speaker 3: In now they now Seattle did make a nice little
Speaker 3: trade at the deadline. That's gonna do well from them
Speaker 3: going forward. Shahed, Oh, I forget, we forgot to talk
Speaker 3: about that. With the Saints, Rashid Shahed the wide receiver,
Speaker 3: deep deep threat guy, they had one of.
Speaker 1: Their one of their receivers.
Speaker 3: That's a nice little pickup and another nice little dump
Speaker 3: for for New Orleans.
Speaker 1: So but as we're saying, with wide receiver editions mid season,
Speaker 1: it generally takes a game or two to kind of
Speaker 1: work into the scheme. Well, unless you're like, unless you're
Speaker 1: like a DK or something like that, just go out
Speaker 1: and physically dominate, Like, hey, just throw me the balls.
Speaker 1: I'm bigger than this game.
Speaker 2: Maybe so, maybe so.
Speaker 3: But with with a guy like Shahed, you're one you
Speaker 3: pick up him not just because of the production he's
Speaker 3: gonna do when he gets the ball, but he also
Speaker 3: clears space for for things that you want to do
Speaker 3: uh an underneath because he's he's got such the deep threat.
Speaker 2: So I hope it doesn't happen in this game. But
Speaker 2: he's he is a burner, he's.
Speaker 3: A he's an elite, take the top off the defense
Speaker 3: type guy that's gonna should open things up in the
Speaker 3: middle of the field for Sam Darnold, who is number
Speaker 3: one PFF quarterback in the league ninety three point five.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that. I mentioned stars like he might be
Speaker 1: the best coy rrect layer, he might be the MVP,
Speaker 1: but it's not a good matchup for him, So I
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.
Speaker 1: I like that we've been pretty good on collin these
Speaker 1: matchups throughout the year. As far as who's gonna have
Speaker 1: good games and bad games? Now, then't always work out
Speaker 1: for us and spread because football go how football go.
Speaker 1: But I don't like the fact that my power rings
Speaker 1: are on Seattle. But again that's with a lot of
Speaker 1: Kyler data mixed in there, so you gotta take that
Speaker 1: from what it's worth. I like the way Arizona's playing
Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna let this keep and I don't
Speaker 1: care that all the money's coming in against this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let this keep. Going to these sevens get again.
Speaker 1: It's seven flat at circle right now, it's seven at
Speaker 1: playing gym seven it heritage and it's juice six and
Speaker 1: a half, so it's going to seven. So if you
Speaker 1: like Arizona like we do, and you don't have seven
Speaker 1: cent in front of you just wait, it's coming, it's
Speaker 1: coming your way. So again, sometimes you don't like money
Speaker 1: coming against you and you don't really understand it. I
Speaker 1: kind of understand it in this one a little bit
Speaker 1: because it's it is Jacouber said, can go out there
Speaker 1: and play that game against a good defense in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and he just played against the worst defense of all
Speaker 1: time in fucking Dallas.
Speaker 3: And not been good at home though, like like for
Speaker 3: whatever reason they're they're at home. It's not a it's
Speaker 3: it's a maybe that's just a short sample and it's
Speaker 3: fluky and that'll even out. But at home they've just
Speaker 3: not been a dominant defense. Now as far as the
Speaker 3: line moves, maybe one of the reasons. And and I
Speaker 3: completely ignored this trend just because the persett This the
Speaker 3: Perssette has them looking like a completely different team. And
Speaker 3: this trend is is almost all well almost certainly all
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. But in this division since twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: Seattle is seven to one ats versus Arizona. So Seattle's
Speaker 3: dominated this this matchup against Kyler though. See, so this
Speaker 3: is one of those things like that's you don't want
Speaker 3: to go against that, but that's what Kyler. You know,
Speaker 3: sometimes those things don't matter, that matter what quarterback. They
Speaker 3: just teams dominate other teams.
Speaker 1: It's so freaky to in this division, like the NFC West,
Speaker 1: it's like a it's almost like a hierarchy of who
Speaker 1: eat too.
Speaker 2: We'll get back. We'll get to that later on for sure.
Speaker 1: So it is weird, but it is a fucking thing
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, this NFC West, it's like a Hui
Speaker 1: too in this division. You're right, Seattle does eat up Arizona.
Speaker 1: I remember last year. I think we were on opposite sides.
Speaker 1: I had Seattle at home when Gino was there. It
Speaker 1: was like a three point spread them versus Coller and
Speaker 1: that was the game that Seattle won, like twenty three
Speaker 1: to six or whatever. It was like they Arizon. I've
Speaker 1: never even scored a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I guess, oh, you mean you mean Kyler cost me money.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it either. Gino won me money, which
Speaker 1: uh he did. He did that for me last week,
Speaker 1: and if I would have bet on it or not,
Speaker 1: he would have won me money again, So I can't
Speaker 1: talk about Geno right now. Washington dance skins as they
Speaker 1: are for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: The dead Skins.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, they're dead and they are They're a corpse walking.
Speaker 1: Let's see this game, you know what, it's got back
Speaker 1: down to its openers. So we're we get off.
Speaker 2: You want to explain that one to me? I can't.
Speaker 1: I got no explanation here, boss. It's actually seven and
Speaker 1: a half at Driftings. I know money is still coming
Speaker 1: in on the Skins, still coming in a lot of
Speaker 1: Detroit hat in this market. Ro what well, they hate you,
Speaker 1: they hate these lines.
Speaker 3: I can't, I have no I'm staying off this game
Speaker 3: so much. I won't even put Detroit in at a
Speaker 3: teaser right now because I don't know what the fuck's
Speaker 3: going on with the line.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is betting on the Redskins right now?
Speaker 2: And why I mean, and why.
Speaker 3: Detroit coming off a loss, embarrassing loss, so everything.
Speaker 1: Off a fucking game that not only they get embarrassed,
Speaker 1: their coach literally got their franchise quarterback destroyed.
Speaker 3: His season probably over, but that but the embarrassing loss
Speaker 3: part be a reason at least for the way I
Speaker 3: handicapped him to look towards them.
Speaker 1: So but you also have, like you do the in
Speaker 1: blocker room thing too, Like, you gotta know those players
Speaker 1: are pissed. Dan Campbell, you got it though, the fucking
Speaker 1: Maden everybody on TV's been yelling at for a fucking week,
Speaker 1: calling an idiot. He had to get at the podium
Speaker 1: and say that was my fault. He got away from me.
Speaker 1: How does it get away from you? You're down by
Speaker 1: almost thirty points or four minutes left. Why is he
Speaker 1: out there? How could they get away from you?
Speaker 3: His arm almost got away from his body, like detached completely.
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, no, everything in my heart and soul
Speaker 3: tells me to pound Detroit minus eight is telling you
Speaker 3: pound Detroit on the teaser.
Speaker 2: I can't explain it. So until if this ticks back up,
Speaker 2: if it starts.
Speaker 3: Going back the other way, eight and a half, eight,
Speaker 3: eight and a half, Okay, that's gonna make me feel better.
Speaker 2: I know Detroit at seven. Yeah, No, I needed to
Speaker 2: go back up. The market needs to go back up
Speaker 2: if it's gonna keep going down. No, but I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not just like, oh yeah, everybody's betting on Washington,
Speaker 3: So now I can tease. No way, I needed to
Speaker 3: go back up for me to feel good. Teasing back
Speaker 3: in but like.
Speaker 2: Just.
Speaker 1: You gotta think t is gonna win this game.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I.
Speaker 1: Mean if you get it one as opposed to which
Speaker 1: is a big deal now in this NFL. Like I
Speaker 1: don't know that to me.
Speaker 3: To me at least on teasers, I like catching the
Speaker 3: the favorite on the way up, like like it opens
Speaker 3: at seven seven and a half, you bang it in
Speaker 3: right then, and then it closes at eight eight and
Speaker 3: a half. Nine versus your oh now it's coming down.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, especially especially because this is not
Speaker 3: a teaser spot.
Speaker 2: You don't tease favorites road favorites down. So it's not wongs.
Speaker 2: It's not a long spot. Not a long spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's That's what I don't like is I
Speaker 1: don't understand it, and we don't like betting on things
Speaker 1: we don't understand. Now, through the numbers, the total this
Speaker 1: was forty nine and a half. I've got it going over.
Speaker 1: I've got Detroit winning this game twenty nine to twenty three.
Speaker 1: So the Skins would definitely cover that for Bssett or
Speaker 1: number set for Mariota, which I've got an update on
Speaker 1: him to grade it. It's a flat matchup for him.
Speaker 1: This is the spot for golf like golf should have.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not his best game, but one
Speaker 1: of his best games of the season in this matchup,
Speaker 1: this is absolutely a matchup that he destroys against this
Speaker 1: defensive Skins played, he gains three points of the VPG.
Speaker 1: The Skins running game is flat, the Lions running game
Speaker 1: has been struggling. It actually gains a half a point here,
Speaker 1: which leans even more credence to the fucking golf spot
Speaker 1: because you know, when he can run the ball, get
Speaker 1: the play action going, it's deadly. I mean, it's almost unstoppable. Now.
Speaker 1: The reason why I don't love the oh is just
Speaker 1: because this track is so sloppy in Washington. It's such
Speaker 1: a slow track. It's hard to get games to go
Speaker 1: over fifty points here, especially after October. Once we get
Speaker 1: in November. On that East coast and that sloppy track
Speaker 1: in Washington, it is fucking hard to score a lot
Speaker 1: of points without just tons of turnovers, fumbles, bullshit or
Speaker 1: whatever going your way. But just if it was a
Speaker 1: regular game without any of that factored in, I've got
Speaker 1: Detroit winning about six. That doesn't quite cover. But again,
Speaker 1: golf should eat here, so again for the fantasy thing.
Speaker 1: I like golf a lot to put up some really
Speaker 1: good numbers here. I don't see any way this Resicans
Speaker 1: defense stop them from scoring at even on the sloppy track,
Speaker 1: at a minimum twenty five to twenty seven points. I
Speaker 1: don't think that Mariota can put that up against this defense.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I can't lay eight points for Detroit,
Speaker 1: and certainly now that's slamming down. This is a spot
Speaker 1: I was looking to play a big favorite again.
Speaker 3: This is a seventy point seven percent cover team coming
Speaker 3: off an embarrassing loss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess a dechected team. Who knows. Now this
Speaker 1: is like this is the dream crusher Sam season is.
Speaker 3: A slam spot for Detroit and the line and all
Speaker 3: the sharps are on the other side. Stay I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna watch it, stay away and see what the fuck
Speaker 3: I'm missing on this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when Detroit was about twenty, I mean like, oh god.
Speaker 2: Here's another Frankie.
Speaker 3: Frankie Louvu maybe their best player on defense suspended because
Speaker 3: he can't he can't stop tackling people illegally and he's
Speaker 3: he's been fining so much for the hip drop tackle
Speaker 3: or whatever that they're finally said, these fins ain't working.
Speaker 3: You're suspended for a game. Like maybe their best player
Speaker 3: on defense, he's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be out linebacker. He's only good linebacker.
Speaker 2: They have all the sharps. Can't can't get enough. They
Speaker 2: can't get enough for the rest of us. So whatever,
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a confusing one, that's for sure. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's move on to those San Francisco forty nine, those
Speaker 1: those Los Angeles Rams. Now this one we're sitting at
Speaker 1: four and a half across the board. Oh god, damn,
Speaker 1: what is doing well? BAA took some heavy fucking uh
Speaker 1: rams money. Apparently they're at five and a half. What
Speaker 1: the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 2: Whoa what? Oh my good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but four and a half across the board. We'll
Speaker 1: grade four and a half pretty flat. So Rams was
Speaker 1: four and a half? What he got?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's give you a little two seconds. There you go, there's.
Speaker 3: Two seconds of the dangers. This is the other dangers
Speaker 3: on the week, the other goose. Because we got another
Speaker 3: backup quarterback, not no Mavericks on the day. I know,
Speaker 3: I know, do I we? We know that Shanahan liked
Speaker 3: him in the draft. We know that he wanted to
Speaker 3: play him and I don't think you see party anymore
Speaker 3: this year. I really don't, because, like if they keep
Speaker 3: hanging these games and he keeps playing the way he plays, which.
Speaker 1: Is not good man, kid just can't get it real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, turf fils turf toe is a rough one. But
Speaker 3: if he accuse, you know what, if they they're six
Speaker 3: and three and and San Fran they kind of have
Speaker 3: the number in this uh. In this matchup, we talked
Speaker 3: about the NFC matchup where they eat each other and
Speaker 3: there's certain matchups that that favor other teams. Well, this
Speaker 3: is the one that the Niners eat rams UH specifically
Speaker 3: Sean McVay three and six straight up as a favorite
Speaker 3: in this matchup, including we just saw earlier this year
Speaker 3: when they should have dominated and killed and had every
Speaker 3: chance to do it, or not kill them, but at
Speaker 3: least beat him.
Speaker 2: Weird shit happens.
Speaker 1: Double favorites at home and fucking lost outright.
Speaker 3: And let me just say about Samaveay and I have
Speaker 3: a lot of respect for him as a coach because
Speaker 3: its a great offensive mind, but as a game manager,
Speaker 3: that dude makes so many late decisions and his like
Speaker 3: it's almost like his balls shrink up and he can't
Speaker 3: see the big pitcher. For an aggressive offensive mind or
Speaker 3: for an offensive mind, a guy he does not have
Speaker 3: the the aggressiveness the uh just just put this game
Speaker 3: away like a Sean Payton. Like a Sean Payton, if
Speaker 3: he's got a chance to put your his foot on
Speaker 3: your neck offensively late in the game, he's doing it.
Speaker 3: Sean McVay, he bitches out, he'll punt on go for
Speaker 3: it situation.
Speaker 1: What game they lost earlier this year when it was
Speaker 1: fourth and one and he runs the ball middle, what
Speaker 1: was that?
Speaker 2: Well, I can't even believe he even fucking went for
Speaker 2: it usually, I mean that was that wasn't punt rangers,
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Uh, decisions like that. It's decisions like that why he's whatever.
Speaker 3: He's a great coach, but there's just little things like
Speaker 3: that that keep him from being well. That's why he's
Speaker 3: three and six against against Cyrus Go in this matchup.
Speaker 3: So I don't know why that one book is taking
Speaker 3: so many so much money and up to five and
Speaker 3: a half. That's crazy because four and a half is
Speaker 3: the byspot for sure. You start getting down to fourth.
Speaker 3: I think it opened at three, so that at three
Speaker 3: it's a RAMS number. At three, it's a RAMS number
Speaker 3: at four, four and a hal half. Anything over that,
Speaker 3: you're you're that's a niners number.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the money's starting to come back in on the
Speaker 1: rams now. Now it's got to four and a half.
Speaker 1: So well, I guess, well, switch to four ninders now.
Speaker 1: I guess it's trickling back to its rams. But it's trickling, so.
Speaker 3: I want two units on the four and a half.
Speaker 3: By the way, nothing on the money.
Speaker 1: Line, got it? Okay, So by the numbers here, powright,
Speaker 1: great sand Fran forty nine and a half. We're sitting
Speaker 1: there for a total. I've got sand Fran losing twenty
Speaker 1: one to twenty two, so that will be within the
Speaker 1: four and a half and it'll be well under kind
Speaker 1: of like the under here. A couple of reasons. Number one,
Speaker 1: not a good matchup for the quarterback, and Stafford's having
Speaker 1: a great year. All those back injuries. We thought we're
Speaker 1: gonna derail them. He can't walk, can't do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's fucking like in line for an MVP. No, how
Speaker 1: about you? That was smoke like it's not smoke.
Speaker 2: He's taking multiple shots in his back. It was not smoke.
Speaker 2: He was legit hurt like it's it's just he's whatever drugs.
Speaker 1: He's on good.
Speaker 2: He's on some good shit. That shit, I know.
Speaker 1: He's immediately like, I don't whatever they're shooting him up with.
Speaker 1: Please and thank you. I'll take that every day of
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: He's gonna probably pay for it later later on his life.
Speaker 1: No doubt, but through this one. But he might get
Speaker 1: another fucking shot out at Super Bowl. They keep playing
Speaker 1: like this, but it's not a good matchup for the
Speaker 1: mccooie monster or for him here they both lose a
Speaker 1: point with BPG. It's also not a good matchup throw
Speaker 1: for sant Fran's running game. I told you last week
Speaker 1: it was the spot for c mac. Oh, that's I'm
Speaker 1: always gonna be there minus half a point here. I
Speaker 1: don't like that. But it's a flat spot for the
Speaker 1: Rams running games again. Just it's all points to I know,
Speaker 1: the totals forty nine and a half. Everybody expected fireworks.
Speaker 1: I kind of see it going a little bit the
Speaker 1: other way, type more low scoring game. You know, that's
Speaker 1: that's generally how Sant Frank gets them in these games
Speaker 1: is they shut that offensive down. They do enough on
Speaker 1: their offensive end to score enough to win the game. Again,
Speaker 1: I got it pretty much a coin flip somewhere in
Speaker 1: the low twenties. Settling in there. I agree with the
Speaker 1: San fran H. We've lined up a lot. This week's
Speaker 1: kind of scary. It is.
Speaker 2: It's just lined up.
Speaker 3: But I'll see what's good or bad, bad.
Speaker 1: Bad, But yeah, I like Sant Friend there and I
Speaker 1: like the under two. All right, Moving on to those
Speaker 1: Sandy Diego super Chajes did.
Speaker 2: Not Definitely San Diego, Definitely San Diego.
Speaker 1: Did not go cover against those Tennessee Times on the road.
Speaker 1: But now they're back home and they're laying two and
Speaker 1: a half points heavily juiced, moving towards the three money
Speaker 1: coming in on the Chajes. Uh, it is it three
Speaker 1: at DK right now? Three is juice though on the
Speaker 1: other side at one fifteen, three ads Bovada juice to
Speaker 1: one twenty. So it's a solid two point seventy five
Speaker 1: moving towards two point eight, long horn, what do you got.
Speaker 2: On this one? But still three officially right.
Speaker 1: Two and a half what two and a half for Yeah,
Speaker 1: two and a half. It's two and a half on
Speaker 1: almost every book. A couple of threes sticking out the juice.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough. Where's my schedule for them? I'm
Speaker 3: definitely gonna be on Pittsburgh here. I don't feel super
Speaker 3: great about it because, again we talked about the indie
Speaker 3: matchup last week.
Speaker 2: They got five tone.
Speaker 3: Numbers and one by seven points. That's I'm sorry. Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: is not good. They're still not a good team. Great,
Speaker 3: that's cool that you got to win, but they're not
Speaker 3: They're just not a good team. Now, why I'm on
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh a couple of reasons. Number one, they lost Joe
Speaker 3: Alt again and they lost Slater coming in the season.
Speaker 3: That's so awesome that you can lose an all Pro
Speaker 3: type left tackle and then you can move your right
Speaker 3: tackle over to left tackle and he plays like an
Speaker 3: All Pro.
Speaker 2: That's badass.
Speaker 3: And that was doing Yeoman's work if I can do
Speaker 3: some al Michaels. But when he got hurt in the
Speaker 3: middle of the sea or in the middle of the
Speaker 3: they lost to the to the Commanders. Joe All was hurt.
Speaker 3: They lost to the Colts. Joe Walt was hurt. Point
Speaker 3: being when they don't have Slater or all, this is
Speaker 3: a very, very beatable team. And we saw last week
Speaker 3: against Tennessee five Tennessee and.
Speaker 2: They couldn't run. They couldn't. I was watching that game.
Speaker 3: Obviously I had the ladder bet on them. They could
Speaker 3: not run the ball against Tennessee when Joe All went out.
Speaker 2: And now you got.
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh, which which as bad as they are on defense,
Speaker 3: they can at least rush the passer.
Speaker 2: And now you got they brought in Trevor Pinning. Talked
Speaker 2: about that earning the podcast.
Speaker 3: They traded traded for Trevor Pinning, a kind of barely
Speaker 3: starting level tackle, but at least he's a starting level tackle,
Speaker 3: and that's barely what they had, huh, and said he.
Speaker 1: Can New Orleans was playing at guard because he couldn't
Speaker 1: even start.
Speaker 3: Right and he felt miserably a tackle. So fair point,
Speaker 3: but it's gotta be better than what they were gonna
Speaker 3: have at the point point B. So yeah, I think
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh can get this game. Any My last point, and
Speaker 3: what I wanted to look up and I had to
Speaker 3: look up, is the Pittsburgh offense as we know, it's
Speaker 3: not good, but they focus almost exclusively on DK and
Speaker 3: the tight ends 'es basically their whole offense. I think
Speaker 3: they run three three, that's right. I said three tight
Speaker 3: end set like thirty percent.
Speaker 2: Others like, what.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna do? Fucking run Darren doesn't even throw
Speaker 1: the tight ends. They'renna run three tight ends. It is
Speaker 1: so stupid here we are.
Speaker 3: Thirty percent of their plays are in three tight end sets.
Speaker 3: So I looked up what are the Chargers against tight ends?
Speaker 3: Thirtieth in the league against tight ends. So everything points
Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh in this game. It's not a sounder, it's
Speaker 3: not a danger zone, it's not a big dick because
Speaker 3: I don't trust the Pittsburgh defense at all. And and
Speaker 3: if if Herbert can make some plays with his legs,
Speaker 3: he can get outside and find Alan McConkey, or just deliver.
Speaker 1: A ball on top like he him and your boy
Speaker 1: Joey Burrow. I swear to God they have all the
Speaker 1: time in the world. They drive me banana sandwich. How
Speaker 1: long they hold on to the god damn football. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is four hits than any other quarterback on dropbacks
Speaker 1: this year. He's taking the most hits, the most hits. Well,
Speaker 1: he's too smart and too talented, and he has guys
Speaker 1: that can make separation. It's not like he's throwing a nobody,
Speaker 1: I know, get rid of the fucking ball.
Speaker 2: Well, he's number three in PFF, so he's playing well.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Yeah, he's having a great year,
Speaker 1: but dude, he is the reason for a lot of
Speaker 1: his fucking problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe so.
Speaker 3: And I did notice last week the dude runs into
Speaker 3: contact still like I don't understand.
Speaker 1: He steps up when there's nothing to step up into.
Speaker 3: No, I mean when he's already I mean when he's
Speaker 3: already broke containment and he's running twenty yards on the
Speaker 3: field instead of sliding, he's just running into I'm like.
Speaker 2: Herbert, what are you.
Speaker 1: The problem?
Speaker 3: So I look Herbert, and those receivers scare me against
Speaker 3: that horrible, horrible secondary for Pittsburgh. Now, the Pittsburgh picked
Speaker 3: up Kyle Dugger, who got big money in New England,
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, the defensive defensive scheme with Rabel
Speaker 3: it didn't it doesn't fit. It was always a he
Speaker 3: had lost playing time the whole year, and finally they
Speaker 3: released him, picked him up. They so now they got
Speaker 3: dugger and they moved Jaylen Ramsey to safety. We talked
Speaker 3: about these good defenses that making changes and trying to
Speaker 3: figure out new ways to change a bad defense. Well,
Speaker 3: at least Tomlin is doing something and he's changed the
Speaker 3: players around, adding this new players. So we'll see if
Speaker 3: that continues. But again, it wasn't good last week.
Speaker 2: Even though they got the five turnovers, the strip sacks
Speaker 2: and all that, they still go with twenty points in
Speaker 2: a fuck ton of yards.
Speaker 3: Now, that was against the number one offense in Indy.
Speaker 3: I get that, but I have my doubts. I have
Speaker 3: my concerns at least, so I'm not going all in on Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: But at the plus three I like it. I knew
Speaker 3: it was gonna take down to the two and a
Speaker 3: half eventually. That's why I banged in Pittsburgh already at
Speaker 3: the teaser up to plus nine, because I it was
Speaker 3: gonna get down to the two and a half, so
Speaker 3: I might as well busted in at the nine. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm on Pittsburgh. But this one scares me. What are
Speaker 3: the numbers say?
Speaker 1: So this one's frustrating for me because I thought going
Speaker 1: into it is gonna be a Pittsburgh spot. I'm still
Speaker 1: not totally off of that. A couple of things though,
Speaker 1: do worry me about it. Number one, The thing I
Speaker 1: like about Pittsburgh spot, it's a no call two and
Speaker 1: a half, so the numbers fair and again our powers
Speaker 1: have been very good this year, so I feel confident
Speaker 1: on that. It's total forty five. It's a no call
Speaker 1: in that I have it exactly forty five points, so
Speaker 1: I think we couldn't get a fair line or total. Now,
Speaker 1: the problem with that is I've got the Chargers. The
Speaker 1: BBG has the Chargers winning twenty seven to eighteen, so
Speaker 1: the majority of those forty five are coming from the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The reason for that is this is a very good
Speaker 1: matchup for Herbert. Again, it's a bad secondary, is a
Speaker 1: bad defense, and in amongst that the scheme he just
Speaker 1: he does very well against it. This is a bad matchup.
Speaker 2: Scheme was twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven eighteen.
Speaker 3: That's nine points exactly what I'm vell. I'll be glad
Speaker 3: I grabbed the nine on the t's for sure.
Speaker 1: It's not a good matchup for Aaron Rodgers here as
Speaker 1: far as you know versus the scheme. Now, the tight
Speaker 1: end thing that could play a factor into that. Hopefully
Speaker 1: that gets us a little bit close to the number.
Speaker 1: But the other thing that really bothers me is, you know,
Speaker 1: the Chargers kind of been scuffling in the running game.
Speaker 1: They gained a half a point here, which they haven't
Speaker 1: gained much the BBG the running game lately, so it's
Speaker 1: one of their better grades in a little while in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh grades up flat running the ball against the Chargers defense.
Speaker 1: So if Aaron's not gonna get help from the running game,
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't get five turnovers, which you know
Speaker 1: Herbers will throw you one, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they'll probably get one, maybe a strip side.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to throw more than one. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: strip sick is always a possibility against fucking wad over
Speaker 1: there for fucking Philadelphia, I mean, Pittsburgh. That the only thing,
Speaker 1: the only reason why I can't just lay the two
Speaker 1: and a half with the Chargers. Though I see it
Speaker 1: going to three, I know it's gonna go to three.
Speaker 1: I know it's probably the smart play. The numbers say
Speaker 1: it's a smart play. That offensive line thing's scariest the
Speaker 1: shit out of me in the fact that Herbert just
Speaker 1: refuses to let go of the fucking ball. Now, if
Speaker 1: they can run the ball, like the numbers say, that
Speaker 1: should have a plus advantage running the ball and get
Speaker 1: into some positive, you know, second and third down situations
Speaker 1: where Herbert doesn't have to hold the ball wherever he
Speaker 1: can just find Maconkie the Honkey on his fucking drag
Speaker 1: road over the middle for those eight and fifteen seventeen
Speaker 1: yard plays and then layer on your Keenan Allen, layer
Speaker 1: on the fucking big play to the whatever the kid
Speaker 1: from TCU that learned how to catch all of a
Speaker 1: sudden and John Jewbons could be had. But the big
Speaker 1: play they can absolutely be Hay the big. They give
Speaker 1: it big plays and an enormous fucking right through the secondary.
Speaker 1: So so there is definitely an avenue for Chicago to
Speaker 1: win this game with margin. I mean, the Charger win
Speaker 1: this game with margin here, especially if Aaron's gonna play
Speaker 1: as bad as the BBG says he is. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I want to be on the Chargers, but that offensive
Speaker 1: line scares the shit out of me. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do. It might be a stay away from
Speaker 1: me just to see how this new offensive line kind
Speaker 1: of comes together and this is gonna be a good
Speaker 1: limus tests. Again, like you said, this is a bad defense.
Speaker 1: So if they can go out and handle their business
Speaker 1: and they win twenty seven right against a bad defense
Speaker 1: something like that, then I'll know, Okay, at least against
Speaker 1: this level of defense, this offense, p Lin's fine. When
Speaker 1: they step up in competition, we might have a problem.
Speaker 1: I just need I need a new litmus test with
Speaker 1: this new mix is what I need to have more
Speaker 1: confidence in this pick. Yeah, let's move on to the
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. It is those Green Baby Packers coming
Speaker 1: off maybe the worst franchise history. I don't know. Can
Speaker 1: it get any worse than losing to a guy that
Speaker 1: completed ten passes in the football game in three four
Speaker 1: hundred yards? I don't know. I don't know that it can. Well,
Speaker 1: now they've got the World champs coming to town, to
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, who've made all kinds of moves. They played
Speaker 1: chess wherever West playing checkers this game still Now the
Speaker 1: money is starting to come in on Philly and this
Speaker 1: line is all over the fucking place. I had it
Speaker 1: written down at two and a half. However, the West
Speaker 1: gates two and a half flat sergus to and half flat. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's more some outliers. We got some outlier books that
Speaker 1: are down to one and a half. Here's some online stuff. So, well,
Speaker 1: when's it too. Money's definitely coming in on Philly. I
Speaker 1: don't see this close in two and a half. There's
Speaker 1: definitely not going to three. So if you like the Packers,
Speaker 1: I would say, wait, if you like Philly, I'd probably
Speaker 1: get on. I want to be on you now. If
Speaker 1: I like Philly, let's see.
Speaker 2: You that and let me tell you who I like you.
Speaker 2: Hear that, buddy, We're going Philadelphia? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: We've We've got we have the Super Bowl champs making
Speaker 3: their chess moves once again. I want one unit on
Speaker 3: the money line and one unit plus the two.
Speaker 2: Because they're just gonna win his games. I might as
Speaker 2: well might as well get both.
Speaker 3: And it was a two and a half for sure
Speaker 3: then for sure again, Tucker Kraft, we we talked about
Speaker 3: this on the Monday pot him going down. Golden is
Speaker 3: already dealing with some injuries. They're probably not gonna have him.
Speaker 2: Dude, who is love going to and and and so
Speaker 2: you want unit on each So uh, this is the time.
Speaker 2: And and I just I keep thinking back.
Speaker 3: To that that image of of Jalen Hurts walking in
Speaker 3: to the was it Kansas City they played early this year.
Speaker 3: They were they were dogs on the road walking in
Speaker 3: and he walked by the screen that that showed everybody
Speaker 3: on the TV like in the in the pregame when
Speaker 3: they and it's like a k C k C k
Speaker 3: C k C ksey and he just walked by. He's like,
Speaker 3: all right, nobody, nobody wants us h all right. And
Speaker 3: I feel the same way in this one. Oh, we're
Speaker 3: underdogs against it again. We're the champs.
Speaker 2: We're under dogs. We're we're getting better, We're making trades,
Speaker 2: we're we're making moves. Our our arrow is is gonna
Speaker 2: go up. Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: So the only thing that that worries me, and it's
Speaker 3: a big worries, is how good this Green Bay defense
Speaker 3: is That like, like they are a good defense. And
Speaker 3: if you can keep it ugly, you can keep it close.
Speaker 3: And you're the home team, of course you got a
Speaker 3: shot to win. And still this game by by a
Speaker 3: field go hopefully less. Maybe if they win, it's only
Speaker 3: about one or two points. And I can I can
Speaker 3: you know sneak out that that against the spread win?
Speaker 3: But I just don't see how green Bay scores. Again,
Speaker 3: this is Philly deepens. I just don't see it. What
Speaker 3: a number saying?
Speaker 1: All right, so the power rangement with you. They got Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I'm really torn on this one because of that forty
Speaker 1: five and a half when we're sitting in I got
Speaker 1: it graded under. I got green Bay when he came
Speaker 1: talking about I don't know how to score, I don't
Speaker 1: know how Philly scores twenty three sixteen.
Speaker 2: That's fair too, that's fair, But this is.
Speaker 1: Not a good matchup for Jordan Love. He loses the point.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible matchup for her. So she loses two
Speaker 1: and a half points to the VPG. Now, the thing
Speaker 1: that gives me hope on green Bay and real pause
Speaker 1: on Philadelphi and again I've re racked all these numbers
Speaker 1: to take out all Barkley's pires is obviously he's not
Speaker 1: having the MVB season was running for two thousand yards.
Speaker 1: So it was unfair to continue to grade him with
Speaker 1: any of that in there because it kept pushing his
Speaker 1: numbers down, down, down. Well, that's not fair. We can't
Speaker 1: expect any of that productivity, So let's grade it to
Speaker 1: what it is now, which is a very middling running
Speaker 1: game at best. Even with that, he still loses two
Speaker 1: points and Green Bay gains a half of points. They
Speaker 1: should be able to run the ball on. This deepens. Now,
Speaker 1: everything in my soul tells me that you're right on Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: but everything the numbers tells me you're wrong. And then
Speaker 1: I've got these two trends that also support the fact
Speaker 1: that you might be wrong. After the buye and you
Speaker 1: are an away dog since twenty twenty one, seventeen nineteen
Speaker 1: forty seven point two percent. That's not too bad. However,
Speaker 1: the line's four and a half and you're not covered
Speaker 1: by half a points. That's losing by four points a game.
Speaker 1: But you couple that with this after the buye away dog,
Speaker 1: and you're playing a team coming off a loss four
Speaker 1: and thirteen straight up losing by nine points a game
Speaker 1: six and eleven. Ats not covered by four points a
Speaker 1: game at a line of four point nine and six
Speaker 1: and eleven to the UNDA, which supports my undercall in
Speaker 1: the forty five and a half. Look, I know, eventually,
Speaker 1: probably the moves that Philly makes puts them right back
Speaker 1: in contention. They're obviously gonna win this shitty division. I
Speaker 1: don't think there are any I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: disillusions about that. So they're gonna be there in the end.
Speaker 1: I hope that we see this game again in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We probably will at some point, but this spot in particular,
Speaker 1: in this matchup in particular, I got, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just gotta go. I can't. I don't know that I'll
Speaker 1: bet it because I always wait for the Monday night
Speaker 1: game to kind of see how the numbers went through
Speaker 1: the weekend and see how kind of accurate everything was,
Speaker 1: to see if we're gonna go on Monday done or not.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that I'll bet it. But I
Speaker 1: can't be on Philadelphia just for everything the numbers say
Speaker 1: and those two trends. I mean, but again, everything about
Speaker 1: Soul tells me that you're right if this is the
Speaker 1: spot where they just walk in and win.
Speaker 2: But again, this so, this is so, this is a
Speaker 2: this is a prediction. Obviously it's not. I don't have
Speaker 2: any proof of it yet.
Speaker 3: But the Tank Bigsby acquisition for the Eagles, a real
Speaker 3: running back combo to go because obviously at this point
Speaker 3: we we've we realized is not gonna be you know, he.
Speaker 1: Was so funny because we talked about that and you
Speaker 1: didn't poop poo it, but you don't really think it
Speaker 1: was that big a deal. But I talked about the
Speaker 1: other kid that they had with Barkley last year. There
Speaker 1: was like the third down back, the scat back, the spell,
Speaker 1: the spilling back. Basically he would come in like halfway
Speaker 1: through a series and give Barkley a couple of reps
Speaker 1: off and what a great job he did Phillyppy. Last year,
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't get Barkley production, but they certainly
Speaker 1: didn't lose anything. Especially in the past game with him
Speaker 1: out there. They have not had that other dude.
Speaker 2: They have not, and they do now.
Speaker 3: They do now, and I think too going forward, you're
Speaker 3: gonna people are gonna realize, like Tank basically, oh shit,
Speaker 3: I forgot Yeah, the Eagles got him. How where's this
Speaker 3: guy busting off seventy yards as a backup part time?
Speaker 3: Like he's a real deal running back that hopefully in
Speaker 3: this game for me at least since I'm on Philly.
Speaker 2: Uh, they feel his impact.
Speaker 3: And you know, like sometimes you lessen the load on
Speaker 3: Saquon Instead of twenty five thirty touches a game, get
Speaker 3: him in that eighteen to twenty two touches a game.
Speaker 3: Maybe you maximize his his you know what he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: He's like the right five touches, right, you get him
Speaker 1: the right five touches, and he's the difference in every
Speaker 1: football game. That's what he was last year.
Speaker 3: And since it's the last game, let me just say
Speaker 3: that Willie motherfucking Lampkin is still on this Philadelphia roster.
Speaker 2: Now he hasn't played.
Speaker 3: He hasn't played, So I since I just happened to
Speaker 3: see his name and I forgot.
Speaker 1: That will boost coming.
Speaker 3: Baby Willy Lumpkins is still a real thing in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And once they finally realized that the five ft eleven,
Speaker 3: two hundred ninety pounds center is going.
Speaker 2: To be a future all bro, Yeah, this is gonna
Speaker 2: open up everything.
Speaker 3: Him and tanks human tank just get him, get time
Speaker 3: going Super Bowl not guaranteed.
Speaker 2: So I just want to throw that out there, Willie
Speaker 2: Pumpkins everybody, all right, boys.
Speaker 1: And girls, that was all the wins come to the ear.
Speaker 1: All right, boys and girls. You know what Simon is
Speaker 1: a time of those three I said, three picks of
Speaker 1: the week. Love lay it on them.
Speaker 2: Baby, oh man, what are we going on?
Speaker 1: Note pad over here?
Speaker 2: You honestly I like something this is This is hard
Speaker 2: because we like a lot of stuff this week. You
Speaker 2: know what, I'm not one. I'm not one to doubt
Speaker 2: the sharps.
Speaker 3: Okay, and when they know something that I don't know,
Speaker 3: I am not.
Speaker 2: Certainly not going against this.
Speaker 3: So let me give out the Washington dead Skins, as
Speaker 3: bo Cephas said earlier, because they're not dead, they're plus eight.
Speaker 2: They're gonna cover this game. Washington Dead Skins and Doug.
Speaker 1: At the eight.
Speaker 2: All right, free pick, free, pick, all right for the
Speaker 2: college pre pick the week, Let's go to Jackson State.
Speaker 1: No it's not Jacksonville. No, it's nothing. It's Jackson State girls.
Speaker 1: They're playing in Mississippi Valley State and Missouri. Fellow, whoever
Speaker 1: puts about it. They're laying thirty and a half.
Speaker 2: What high school are these?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, Literland twenty eight and a half? Excuse me
Speaker 1: twenty eight? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Is this six A Texas State? What is this?
Speaker 1: This is just a step above six, maybe a step
Speaker 1: below six A if we're being honest. Jackson State laying
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Maybe they're gonna go fucking win by forty.
Speaker 1: We're gonna snooze through this one. Let's get that college
Speaker 1: free picked the week Jackson States minus the twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Oh even rhymes. I like that, all right, Longhorn talking
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