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Speaker 1: Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is

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not intended for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 2: Charge looking who win by the shoes.

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Speaker 3: This is episode three ten of Sword and Scale. You

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know that already, but uh, I'm not gonna waste your

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time with that. Before you go ahead and hit skip

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to the meat of the show, let me tell you.

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If you're not gonna watch episode seventeen of Sword and

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Scale Television, you are truly missing.

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Speaker 1: One hell of a nightmare. Let's go. I mean, I'm

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not even kidding.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't sleep for three days after finalizing that episode.

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And if you're gonna fully watch one episode of Sorts

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Scale Television, that one should be in.

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Speaker 1: Not that you have to stop one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you sign.

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Speaker 4: More content on top of that.

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Speaker 3: It's uh labor of love people. This is what the

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dipshits on Reddit called begging, which is actually just marketing. Yeah,

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we created a product, we want you to consume it.

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Speaker 1: Duh.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, go check it out.

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Speaker 4: If you like true crime and if you want to

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support Sword and Scale.

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Speaker 1: Love takes sacrifice.

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Speaker 3: That's what I've heard, and I've also found it to

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be true in my own life.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot.

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Speaker 3: You give up when you're truly in love. Sometimes you

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give up your time, or your money, or your freedom

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to go to a diddy party, for example. A lot

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of things, but your humanity shouldn't be one of them.

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Putnam County, Florida, is a stretch of land between Gainesville

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and Saint Augustine, where dirt roads wind through the pine

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forests and the air is as humid is well. It's

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like walking through the bottom of a pool. It's a

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place of small towns and long stretches of country in between.

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The poverty rate is higher than the rest of the

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state because of the remoteness. Inside Putnam County is Melrose,

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a small, quiet community that barely makes a blip on

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the map. This is the kind of place where people

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still leave their doors unlocked, believe it or not, and

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where Friday night football and Sunday morning church have become

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just a thing on the calendar that doesn't change. This

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is a Ernie Bradley Waldrop, a native of the area.

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Speaker 5: I am a former prosecutor. I've worked in Putnam County

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and Saint John's County from about two thousand and six

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to twenty ten. I'm currently in private practice in Saint Augustine, Florida,

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do criminal defense and do family law as well. But

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I'm a lifelong residence of Saint Augustine, Florida. It's so

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very familiar with the area and really cut my teeth

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as a prosecutor in Putnam County, which is where this occurred.

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Speaker 3: Down a dead end road in Melrose sat a modest

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home built in nineteen eighty five. It was now more

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than two decades old, a single story house with a

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yard that stretched into the woods. It wasn't much, but

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it was home to fifteen year old Morgan Leopard, her

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older brother, and her forty eight year old mother, Jerry.

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Speaker 5: Melrose is a beautiful community. Like I said, it's very

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laid back, rural. It's one of those towns that you

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passed through on the way to Gainesville. Just a lot

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of beautiful scenery there. It's kind of like one of

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those one red light towns, or you stop at the

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red light and there's everything. A general store, a restaurant,

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a gas station, but it's a very laid back town,

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very tight knit community.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Leppert was the kind of mother who had lived

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enough to see trouble. If you don't know what that means,

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you will, Let's give it time. She tried to steer

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Morgan in the right direction, tried to set rules, and

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tried to keep her daughter close. She even picked her

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battles with Morgan, letting her see boys at an early

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age in order to keep an eye on things. She

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had an open door policy, preferring that Morgan socialize where

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her mom could see her, an interesting parenting style which

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some people employ to their detriment, but just like typical teens,

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arguments took place over space, choices and the kind of

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people Morgan was bringing into her life. Her mother saw

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the warning signs. She knew what was coming. It was

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obvious that Jerry cared about and loved her daughter, but

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Morgan didn't see that. She saw a cage instead, built

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to stifle her cravings for independence. I've said it a

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couple times on this program, but I'll say it one

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more time.

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Speaker 1: Kids are dumb. They really really are.

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Speaker 3: So if you're an old person and you see a

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bunch of kids at a protest, Maybe think twice before

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joining in, because he might be supporting really bad shit. Anyway,

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Morgan was desperate for her independence, as most teenagers are,

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and one day she found it in the form of

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a man named Toby Laurie. She fell in love with them,

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and love meant freedom.

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Speaker 6: Okay, did you just sleep on accounts at the house

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or your mom?

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Speaker 5: And that?

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Speaker 3: So Toby moved in right away. You know, parenting isn't easy,

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and Toby needed a place to stay. Jerry was picking

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her battles with Morgan and was already prepared for the

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day when Morgan became interested in boys. Well, that day

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came early, and her mom had already brought in reinforcements

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as in contraception.

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you a personal questions. Are y all

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having things?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: It's all.

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Speaker 8: It's all when your will. He'd not forced himself on anything. No, well, okay,

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how many time do you think you may have had

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thick y'all dated from the very beginning until now? Just yeah,

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I know it's embarrassing, but yeah.

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Speaker 9: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

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Speaker 8: Ten No twenty no, uh am I going too high too?

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Speaker 2: Lew glue uh, sickly.

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Speaker 6: Probably probably are.

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Speaker 8: You all using protection? You were?

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Speaker 6: Who got that forty?

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Speaker 10: I got on birth control on my.

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Speaker 6: Fourteenth birthday in January.

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Speaker 10: I think it's sporty.

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Speaker 6: Two early girl.

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Speaker 10: Oh my mom, she's done, my sage. You're gone on

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birken Shaw fourteenth.

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Speaker 11: And the thing, if they're using protection, you're not present. Okay,

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So your mom know that you are having fixt and

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she finally she was.

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Speaker 10: Whenever he was living with that I had. I had

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no idea.

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Speaker 3: Now, at first, Morgan's mom didn't ask too many questions.

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Teenagers push boundaries, and that's just part of raising one.

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If giving Morgan a little space kept the peace, maybe

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it was worth it. But Toby wasn't just some boyfriend.

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He was twenty two, unemployed, and guess what, he had

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a criminal record. Young girls love bad boys, you know,

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so naturally he was the perfect guy to move in

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with a fifteen year old.

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Speaker 1: That was sarcasm.

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Speaker 3: Some of you don't understand sarcasm, so I guess I

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got to point it out. Terry would soon find out

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exactly who she let into her home.

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Speaker 6: Well, at least i'll use the protection and you're not pregnant.

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That's the big thing. You all need no kids right now,

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because nay, he's still in school. How old was he?

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Speaker 10: Twenty two?

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Speaker 8: And you're.

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Speaker 6: You old me to tell you how old you are, ma'am.

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Don't you think that's kind of a big age?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, was still you're still in school and he's out

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and got a job.

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Speaker 3: And Toby was out of school and unemployed when he

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wasn't behind bars, that is charismatic and conventionally good looking.

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He'd fallen through the cracks, fallen out with his parents,

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and started breaking the law. And Morgan wasn't just rebelling.

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She was running toward a person who made her feel

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like an adult, even if he was the worst possible choice.

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If you only heard of this conversation, you'd think this

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was a dad having the talk with his gigly teenage daughter,

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a patient, experienced voice trying to steer her back onto

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the right path. But this was not her father. This

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was a detective sitting across from Morgan in a concrete

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interrogation room, hours after she and Toby were found in Texas,

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one thousand miles away from home, burning through stolen gas

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and borrowed time. And all of it started when Jerry

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Leppert learned the truth. She had no idea that Toby

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had a criminal record with burglary, theft and drugs under

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his belt. She certainly had no idea that he was

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an adult male almost eight years older than her daughter.

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But once she found out, she did what any sane

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mother would do. When she kicked him out, She told

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him he was done, gone, no more playing house with

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a fifteen year old child. For a minute, that might

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have seemed like the end of it, but Morgan wasn't

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letting go that easily. Just a few days later, on

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April twenty second, two thousand and eight, she was gone too.

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Her mother searched, she filed reports. She even broke into

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Toby's trailer, hoping to find some kind of sign, some

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trace of her daughter. But Morgan wasn't there. This is

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Morgan talking about the early days with Toby leading up

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to her disappearance.

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Speaker 8: All right, are you willing to speak to me about

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the anthing about you decided to run away? So he

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got a boyfriend, and your mom found out he'd been

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in some trouble with the law, and something come up

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missing in the neighborhood, and he knew kid on the block.

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So he got blamed and you should have was back

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in January this year, he.

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Speaker 12: Had January living. He got to David for my birthday

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when he came back two months later.

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Speaker 11: And yeah, so he came back in March and all

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got back together in March.

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Speaker 8: That you're saying.

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Speaker 3: Ye, the reason Toby was basically homeless was because he

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had been living in a camper and then went to prison.

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While he was living in the camper, he proved his

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devotion to Morgan before moving into her bedroom.

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Speaker 10: And he to come down my street, heat the.

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Speaker 12: Walk all the way from Paulaka to the other the bridge.

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Speaker 10: Always see on the table.

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Speaker 2: Are you thereous every day?

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Speaker 8: That's what that's a good talk every day and you

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know the bridge just deep.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward.

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Speaker 3: Toby moves in and stays for a few months, but

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things come up missing. Morgan's mom finds out about his

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age and background and she kicks him out, and in April,

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Morgan disappears with Toby, leaving her mom to contact the police.

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Speaker 10: Three month that is.

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Speaker 12: Lift he didn't mind the back that I was with them,

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and I think I was going to be with him

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no matter what, and I ended up.

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Speaker 8: Did you go to school with all the day you

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left or you just left the house, What day you

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let the house?

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Speaker 6: Where'd you go when you let the house? Were there

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the economy? And how many days these day were there?

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Speaker 10: We left that day?

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Speaker 6: He did, and he started where'd y'all go when you left?

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Did you?

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Speaker 7: Did you?

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Speaker 6: Did you go back to your house?

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Speaker 8: Or did that?

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Speaker 6: When y'all started driving? Well, look hard, how did you

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get out of here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: That truck truck over.

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Speaker 10: The Dakota or not Dakota, that Toyota, Dacoma or whatever.

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Speaker 6: Oh did he buy a truck from working?

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Speaker 13: I have no idea. And he showed up in the truck.

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I don't know where you got it from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: Where I think over not at all.

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Speaker 8: So when you got there, the truck was already there,

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and then y'all just hopped in it and took all

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the time.

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Speaker 6: Did you take any bring the clothes legit?

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Speaker 10: Oh my well, we had to be bought clothes like

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do traveler and stuff. But I don't know if they're

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going to give me my clothes back.

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Speaker 12: They're all in that truck with my wallet and everything.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Toby rode in like a knight in shining armor. Literally,

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the truck was so new and gleaming, ready to whisk

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Morgan away to freedom, to adulthood, to adventure, and to Morgan,

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barely fifteen and desperate for something bigger than the life

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she knew. It might have felt like a rescue, but

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to Toby it was never about saving her. He was

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merely pulling her deeper into his world, where love was

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just another tool of manipulation. And that shiny new truck

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it carried Toby and Morgan away on an adventure while

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it left its owner behind, broken and bleeding. It was

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April two thousand and eight in San Mateo, Florida. Jerry

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Leppert lived in a three bedroom home on the end

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of a rural street with her son and her daughter, Morgan.

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The kid's father was no longer in the picture, and

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her oldest daughter had moved out. Morgan was a good kid,

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but Jerry always knew she needed to keep an eye

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on her. Morgan was feisty, somewhat immature, and crazy about boys.

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One boy in particular, whose name was Toby. Toby had

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been living in a camper, so when Morgan begged her

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mom to let him move in with them, she reluctantly conceded,

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sensing they were already sexually active.

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Speaker 1: Jerry would I'd rather have.

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Speaker 3: Them fooling around under her own roof than in a

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camper somewhere remotely. I guess the sentiment sort of makes sense,

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but I don't know. Try parenting instead. It works better.

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You can't actually say no to your children every now

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and then. But instead of doing this, Jerry put Morgan

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on birth control at age fourteen to ensure that there

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would be no accidental pregnancies. She didn't realize that Toby

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was an adult male with a criminal history and his

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site set on Morgan. So when she kicked him out

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of her home and her daughter's life, Morgan had already

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fallen for him.

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Speaker 1: It was too late, way too late.

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Speaker 3: They were about to take off and make a life

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of their own, at least that's what Morgan thought. They

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simply disappeared in a silver truck. No one knew where

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they were going or what they'd already done. But what

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started as an escape, as chance at the big road

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trip and a new life together, would soon unravel into

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something far more horrible. Because the truck they were driving

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didn't just belong to anyone. It belonged to a dead man.

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After they were picked up in El Paso, Texas, Morgan

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was interviewed. She wasn't interested in talking about the truck, though, truck,

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what truck. All she could think about or talk about

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was how great Toby was and how he'd do anything

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for her. She talked about leaving Florida, about sleeping in

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the woods, showering at gas stations, and about what it

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felt like to be free. If that sounds a little immature, it's.

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Speaker 1: Because it is. It is.

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Speaker 3: But you know how detectives are. They don't just ask

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you a question and take your first answer at face value.

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Now they ease in slowly, like a fisherman letting out

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a line, waiting for the right moment to reel you

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back in.

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Speaker 8: And that was on the twenty second, the day all left.

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Did he tell his parents where he was going? No,

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just that he's gonna leave town a little bit.

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Speaker 6: And and.

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Speaker 8: Did that his friend's truck.

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Speaker 6: Or anything that, y'all r I really have no idea

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you ever seen a minute before? He didn't have to

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love it was.

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Speaker 10: I really didn't care at the movement. I was glad

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to get out of here.

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Speaker 8: So well, he didn't think, Hey, this was my buddy

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Jim's truck, or this.

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Speaker 12: Is you know, I didn't you worry that I didn't

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jump in two off?

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Speaker 10: Was he so happy as you get out of there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay, how did y'all eat? Did y'all just buy food?

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Speaker 8: Did you know that the whole country was looking for

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your sweet little self? No, you didn't know that.

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Speaker 10: I know I heard about it. I figured, like because

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I was walking into every walmart we went to travel

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in the cold time. Now I'll look on the midden

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old people thing. I didn't even see.

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Speaker 12: My book on this.

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Speaker 10: I've then whatever.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know what Florida does? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: You know what ambroller?

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Speaker 10: It is nationwide?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just found that out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah did that Tali farm me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: And what they did is because your mom almost worried

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about you because she ain't seen so long as they

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sent it ambrolert out.

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Speaker 10: I haven't bought sure something day on it in those

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two weeks.

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Speaker 3: But Jerry wasn't the only one wondering where their loved

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one was. James Stewart lived alone, but his cousin had

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spoken to him on the morning of April twenty fifth,

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two thousand and eight, after that, the calls went unanswered.

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A neighbor also noticed that James hadn't left his house

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in a while. His beloved tomato plants weren't thriving anymore,

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and they wondered if he was away on vacation, but

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his truck was still there. James's family wasn't alarmed for

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the first few days. It was just a miscall, maybe

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just bad timing. But when the days started to add up,

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so did the miscalls. By May first, another cousin couldn't

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shake the feeling that something was wrong, so.

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Speaker 1: He called the police.

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Speaker 3: Deputies went to the house for a welfare check, and

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when they opened the door, the truth hit him in

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the face, a wall of decay and death. James Stewart

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wasn't missing. He was lying on the floor, rotting. He'd

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been dead for nearly ten days, murdered and left to bloat, stiffen,

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and seep into the floorboards of his own home. Morgan

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claimed that Toby picked her up in a silver truck

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and she had no idea who the owner was. Maybe

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she was right that Toby would do anything to be

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with her.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she was right.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, who do.

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Speaker 8: You think that truck belonged to.

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Speaker 6: He didn't tell me belonged to you? Yeah, he just

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get you, don't You didn't worry about who it was

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at the moment. You know, he didn't make enough money

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to buy that truck, right, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean, like, like, Toby, do you think he made enough

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money washing cars to buy that truck? Honestly?

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Speaker 5: I know?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So what do you kind of you think he

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got it, barred it, or it stole it, or I

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am you had to get No, I'm just saying if

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he had to get how did he come about this truck?

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Speaker 6: Because it's not registered to him.

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Speaker 8: We don't know who the guy is registered to.

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Speaker 14: Annoying me, you would you tell me if he did, Brom,

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I'm just making sure we're trying to find out whose

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truck it is.

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Speaker 6: If not Toby's, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: You picked me up in it and we just run

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on someone that I didn't care at the moment who

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were what was going on around or anything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, she didn't care who it was or what was

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going on because she was in love.

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Speaker 10: Did anybody care to be with me?

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Speaker 13: Most likely?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but you know what I mean, you were gonna

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do whatever he had the duty to be with me,

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but I didn't know he wasn't think.

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Speaker 6: That far and the like he did, like what he

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did that trip was going.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: It was, and the whole we talked about running delay,

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but I didn't know that he even got furious about it.

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Speaker 6: And then he actually did it and kind of scared

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you a little bit.

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Speaker 10: I didn't know he was like I thought, you know,

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he was joking around and going along to God.

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Speaker 6: I was staying, Well, he didn't force you to run away,

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did it? I wouldn't believe me. I went well with me.

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Speaker 3: Morgan had no problem talking about running away, and she

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certainly had no problem talking about Toby, the man who

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would do anything to be with her. But detectives weren't

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here to talk about young love. They were here for murder,

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just like you. They just hadn't revealed that secret to

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Morgan just yet. The tone in the room shifted. The

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detective stepped out for a moment and came back with

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a picture.

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Speaker 6: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 10: I just go Morgan.

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Speaker 6: Have you ever seen him before?

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Speaker 2: Where?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I had no idea, never.

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Speaker 15: Seen him before his his own Toby ever talked about

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yet an older friend in.

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Speaker 13: Rooth and never seen him being out with an order

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guy like the only guy that he hang out with,

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this Scott and every time I went to the trunk

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or I thought he would live.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well I talked to him and he said that

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he had mentioned this guy to you. Do you remember

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mentioned it to him at tea at all? Not at all?

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Don't recognize him at all.

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Speaker 15: He never said he I got this guy the friend

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of mine that's older or nothing like that, ever seen him.

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Speaker 13: That guy before.

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Speaker 1: Morgan wasn't budget either.

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Speaker 3: She was telling the truth, and her innocence was just

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that an innocent young girl in love taking advantage of

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by an older boy, well, an older man or there

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were many more layers to Morgan.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm getting a queen plate near that.

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Speaker 8: You knew what would going on in that truck?

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Speaker 6: To tell me and you won't get any trouble.

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Speaker 10: Sure, now?

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Speaker 15: Was that fond of Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Okay, it's dubbed it, but I'm cool.

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Speaker 6: You want to put that jacket on.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to click a banana.

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Speaker 6: So you pick on that because we were this kind

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of jacket when we were, you call it banana. I

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have a question, Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 15: Toby is in a holding celle, waiting to be processed

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in the jail.

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Speaker 10: What he come back for me?

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Speaker 6: Yes, ma'am, you know what jail Puttnam County.

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Speaker 15: Why you weren't out seeing Well, you'll give him a

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Putnam County jail.

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Speaker 10: Put any show, as your mom willert. That's when I'm

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hold up.

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Speaker 6: I can be honest with you.

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Speaker 8: If you were my daughter, I wouldn't let you go

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no place for you.

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Speaker 3: It was early in the morning and the interview was

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winding down. As it was looking like Morgan wasn't going

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to give in, the detective gave it one last shot.

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Speaker 14: Well, I'm gonna be honest with you, okay, because I've

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been because you've been honest with me the whole time.

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Speaker 8: So I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 15: If the truck comes back not belonging to Toby and

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it's stolen, he gonna be in a little bit of trouble.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 15: My name is your boy friend. Wanted to tell you that,

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just that you know. And the other thing is that

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if Toby tells us that you knew the trouble was

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the one, or he knew that there was in his

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then you might be a little bit of trouble too.

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You see, what I'm saying, Well, I mean, you could

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you know it's there, you know what I mean. So,

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I mean, I'm just saying, if he honestly didn't tell you,

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that's fine, and I completely believe you. But if he

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did tell me, now and we can bypack the issue

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of you get in trouble or anything that I know of.

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Speaker 10: I mean, we've been traveling this whole.

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Speaker 8: Time in that truck.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The detective tried the soft approach by giving Morgan an

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Out a clean slate, but when she stuck to her story,

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he switched gears. This wasn't just about a stolen truck anymore.

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He reminded her of how dangerous this all was. A

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teenage girl running away from home, sleeping in cars, hitchhiking

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across state lines, sleeping in the woods with rattlesnakes and

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00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,480
only Toby to protect her. She could have been kidnapped, assaulted,

481
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,519
or left for dead in the middle of nowhere, but

482
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,920
somehow she was still here there far.

483
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 8: I mean, y'all could easily got in a car accident

484
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,519
and you could have been hurt, and no one knows

485
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:14,079
where you're at.

486
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 13: You know, I heard my mom thought I was dead.

487
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 8: Really, why did you with that the friend you called

488
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:24,839
that told us that, why does she think you were dead?

489
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 7: Oh?

490
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 12: No, she because I guess my mom kept on calling

491
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,480
him seeing fever anything from me, and she said she,

492
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,680
I guess she told him.

493
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:35,039
Speaker 7: That she thought I was dead.

494
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 6: A lot of people, Falk you were seriously hurt because

495
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,039
they ain't heart from me a while.

496
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, I heard a lot of people have been looking

497
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:42,279
for me out.

498
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 11: Do you know?

499
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,599
Speaker 6: Do you know you've been on national television. You've been

500
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,440
on Napty Grays, she's the top show host. Don't see him?

501
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,480
You know what that TV channel? You've been You're famous girl.

502
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: By now, Morgan's face was on the news. What appeared

503
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:06,480
to be a missing or runaway teen was turning out

504
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:11,000
to be much more of a complicated story. Morgan was

505
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,000
still holding on to her version of the story, insisting

506
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:17,160
that she had no idea where this truck came from

507
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:22,480
and that she'd gone with Toby willingly. But detectives weren't

508
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,440
just getting one side of the story, because just down

509
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,359
the hall, in another room of the El Paso Police Department,

510
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,839
they had already sat across from Toby Laurie and sent

511
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,000
him back to Putnam County jail. By then, they already

512
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:43,039
knew where he and Morgan had been. On April twenty second,

513
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,039
a friend of Morgan picked her up and took her

514
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:50,240
to Toby's trailer at the Economy n RV Park.

515
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: How romantic.

516
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: That night, they showed up at Toby's parents' house, hoping

517
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,240
for a place to stay, but his parents refused to

518
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:04,119
take them in. Now they were on their own. Toby

519
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,880
was a drifter, a thief, and a predator, and like always,

520
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,519
he was looking for someone to take along for the ride.

521
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,440
It gets lonely out there, predating by yourself.

522
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Is that a word?

523
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,799
Speaker 3: Anyway, Together they broke into a concession stand, stealing candy,

524
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,119
drinks and whatever food they could find. They slept wherever

525
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,160
they could, in the woods, behind homes, even on old

526
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,359
mattresses they found abandoned.

527
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,559
Speaker 1: In the yard.

528
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: It was like a modern day Bonnie and Clyde adventure.

529
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:39,960
And along the way Toby started looking for something bigger,

530
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:42,880
something like a getaway truck.

531
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,559
Speaker 7: We're twenty four, Okay.

532
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: What do I want you to do though? Is I

533
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:51,559
know he kased out some counting houses over there in

534
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,400
the Melrose area, and I want you to tell them

535
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,960
what if anyone on the entering the houses and I

536
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:05,400
need to tell me, you know, he did, not that

537
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,920
we're gonna start back off onto the kind of when

538
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,000
we were laying in was.

539
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 9: Okay, you don't make you like maybe, oh yeah, by

540
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,279
I don't mean necessary.

541
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,119
Speaker 3: He immediately inculpated Morgan as the voice that drove him,

542
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,519
but neither he nor the officer was ready for the

543
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,960
climate shift about to hit them. He paused, shifted in

544
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,759
a seat, He rubbed his arms and ran his hands

545
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,839
through his blonde hair. The room went quiet, A chill

546
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,400
settled into the space between them, and then finally Toby

547
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:53,920
leaned in.

548
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,799
Speaker 2: React and I'll tear it down. You will relaxed before

549
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,480
I don't know, I kind of gold hold one, okay.

550
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:08,359
Basically I was saying, there in your own life, go

551
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,599
out there, knocked on the doors.

552
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 7: What time was this Toby?

553
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:16,319
Speaker 2: For the darks in their end of the day life, okay,

554
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:18,960
And they assured the twenty four years okay.

555
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,519
Speaker 3: Even though Toby didn't know the occupant of the house,

556
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,519
James Stewart, he knew a little about the house itself.

557
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,440
He used to live directly behind it, and a friend

558
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,799
of his lived in the house James was in.

559
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: Now, what they did is they decided to run away

560
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:44,240
together and they were basically casing different houses to look

561
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:48,640
for appropriate victims. Miss Leopard earlier in the day that

562
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:51,960
the day of the murder, knocked on mister Stewart's door

563
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,359
around one pm and asked to use his phone. He

564
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,759
gave her access to use his phone, and she actually

565
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:03,599
called her own cell phone and had an opportunity at

566
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,839
that time to basically do some reconnaissance on his residence

567
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,000
that he did live alone.

568
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:14,759
Speaker 3: So Toby sent Morgan directly to James's front door on

569
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,319
this reconnaissance mission.

570
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: We went out, knock on door and I was like,

571
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:20,640
go there and ask if you can use phone.

572
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 7: Okay, call on your cell phone.

573
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: No one's going to answer your cell phone.

574
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,279
Speaker 3: Toby waited in the woods close by and he could

575
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:32,440
see what was happening. After about ten minutes, Morgan came back.

576
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,079
This was getting real.

577
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,559
Speaker 2: I'm kind of pushing it on the fucking thoughts right now.

578
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:42,160
As you can tell, I'm kind of psychotic.

579
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,759
Speaker 7: Keep my mind.

580
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,599
Speaker 2: Well, you're thinking survival, bro, I'm thinking survival. I'm trying

581
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,640
to get it where we ain't nowhere around this fucking

582
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,119
place at all. Right, I'm trying to get the fuck

583
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,880
out of there, you know.

584
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:58,039
Speaker 7: Sure, So she's telling me.

585
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 2: And he just he looks like he's kind of moving, yeah,

586
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:07,920
kind of a little bit, but he's look at you

587
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,480
know that because of some of the stuff was in

588
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:13,239
the house. Yeah, I'm gonna wait, wait, equipment or feel

589
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,440
like that. Yeah, it looks like like partially of his fingers,

590
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,239
like right here got cut off some weird ship. I

591
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,360
don't know what it is, brough And I was.

592
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 8: Like, what the fuck?

593
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,599
Speaker 9: And she was like this hand over here.

594
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: All the fingers were gone and there was just a

595
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,400
round hand guy out there.

596
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,639
Speaker 13: You know.

597
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: I was like, kind of fum freaking a ship all right.

598
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 7: I was like, can you be honest with me. Tell

599
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:39,039
me you never know this guy before.

600
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: I've never met her take a guy, Okay, he just

601
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,840
picked hiss like how to ran him that day?

602
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 7: And I thought her. I was like, maybe that's fucking

603
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:47,159
freaking me out.

604
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,559
Speaker 16: He didn't touch it or nothing to do, because usually

605
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,079
people like that are fucking predators.

606
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: Sure, And I was like like, maybe he didn't touch

607
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,440
you didn't.

608
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 7: And she was like she didn't answer me, my baby,

609
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,000
and she was like.

610
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,519
Speaker 3: They'd opened the door to the home of a disabled man.

611
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,559
James Stewart lived a quiet life, tucked away in his

612
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,599
modest house in Melrose, Florida. He wasn't a predator. Where

613
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,679
did Toby get the idea that disabled people are predators?

614
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

615
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,639
Speaker 3: Here's Toby, someone who just entered adulthood with all his

616
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,679
faculties and appendages, ready to do the unthinkable to a

617
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:42,960
disabled man, and he's calling the victim a predator. James

618
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:47,559
wasn't wealthy, he wasn't famous, but he was independent. He

619
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:50,840
took care of himself, tended to his tomato plants in

620
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,239
his backyard, and kept his truck in pristine condition. What

621
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,920
he didn't have, what he had never had, or finger.

622
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:04,000
He was born with a congenital defect that left him

623
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:09,159
with hands that he could grasp with but never fully close.

624
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:13,920
The simplest tasks like buttoning a shirt, tying a knot

625
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,079
holding a pen had been lifelong challenges, but he'd learned

626
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:19,599
to manage.

627
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: He had adapted.

628
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: It's amazing how humans can adapt to almost anything. He'd

629
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,039
found ways to live in a world that wasn't built

630
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:33,000
for him. But there are some things that no amount

631
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:38,199
of adaptation could prepare him for, and all Toby was

632
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,320
concerned about was whether James had touched his precious girlfriend

633
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:50,719
with his stubby hands, in Toby's words, fingerless stumps. But

634
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,599
there was some information Toby hadn't revealed yet that would

635
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:58,559
lead this cold hearted thief and murderer feel just a

636
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:02,039
little more protective of his girlfriend Morgan than usual.

637
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: What do you want to do? I don't know, maybe

638
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,360
like a million times into my head right now. The

639
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,960
whole thing's a bible. Yeah, And she's like maybe you know,

640
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:17,719
I'm bringing it, you know, when I get out of here, atuator.

641
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,960
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, well, here in the truck,

642
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,119
all right, I'll walk up a little bit. I'm thinking,

643
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:28,840
I'm like, what the hell to do?

644
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

645
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,039
Speaker 7: What am I going to do?

646
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: All they could think about was how to get out

647
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,400
of the state and start building life together, because, after all,

648
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,760
their baby was technically going to be the product of

649
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,239
statutory rape according.

650
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: To the law.

651
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,079
Speaker 9: She was like, honestly, I'm like yeah, honestly, She's like,

652
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,159
I say, we.

653
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:52,599
Speaker 17: Grew up in this fucking house, always in there, fucking

654
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:53,960
beat the shit out of there.

655
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:55,599
Speaker 7: Do what we gotta do it.

656
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,599
Speaker 2: Like, maybe I'm like, don't about that ship, I gets the.

657
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:01,079
Speaker 10: Heart of that.

658
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 7: And how will help it.

659
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: It was easy to think that Toby was the one

660
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:11,639
lying and trying to pin this on Morgan, but for

661
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,559
the fact that he was the one laying out the

662
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,760
painstaking details while Morgan had sat in a chair across

663
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,519
from another detective, lying and giggling. On the other hand,

664
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:28,519
Morgan claimed she went willingly. Maybe she believed that at

665
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:32,599
the time, maybe she still does, but willingly or not,

666
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:37,320
she was a fifteen year old child who followed Toby

667
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,679
all the way to murder. Next, Toby goes to the

668
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,440
door of the house by himself.

669
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: He knocks.

670
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: James comes to the door and has met with Toby,

671
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,199
asking him if he'd seen a young blonde girl earlier.

672
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,119
James tells him yes, she just left and went down

673
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:02,119
the street. Toby answers really. At this point, Toby says

674
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,400
that James gets starky with him and asks if he's

675
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,719
stupid because he just told him she left and went

676
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,159
down the street. That response sat with Toby about as

677
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,079
well as the thought that a man with fingerless hands

678
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:21,360
would dare touch his woman. According to Toby, he gave

679
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,599
him an evil look and walked away.

680
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,559
Speaker 2: Well that's pretty shaken on it.

681
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 16: Sorry, I'm sure his nervous nerve condession like this ever, okay,

682
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,719
wait time minutes and she was like, baby killing this.

683
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,199
I'm like, I'm all right, man, I can't.

684
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,039
Speaker 7: I can't do this ship. I don't even know.

685
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,199
Speaker 2: I ain't got the hard to do a ship. I can't.

686
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 7: I can't do it.

687
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:50,559
Speaker 18: She was, baby, I'm pregnant. There's nothing you can do

688
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,679
else enough, no money or not. If we ain't got

689
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,440
no money, I mean't got no transportations. I'm pregnant, there's nothing.

690
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: We can do it.

691
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,159
Speaker 8: Okay.

692
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,679
Speaker 7: And I asked her. I was like this she really

693
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:15,159
too her one. She's like, yeah, state something. I can't

694
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:15,880
leave you again.

695
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 13: I'm like, well, you know what you got?

696
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,039
Speaker 7: You know this is we're a long done.

697
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: And you're like, we ain't gonna get caught.

698
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:29,119
Speaker 3: Here was a seasoned criminal looking to a fifteen year

699
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:32,239
old girl on what to do when she had never

700
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,079
committed a crime before meeting him. This wasn't two kids

701
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:38,320
who believed it was them against the world. It was

702
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,760
an adult and a naive girl.

703
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,679
Speaker 7: She's right now, she don't like to I guess.

704
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: So now the couple was heading back into the house.

705
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,159
The doors were all unlocked. Remember it's some little ship

706
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,960
town in Florida. Nobody locks their doors. This time, they

707
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,519
had with them two copper pieces of pipe tucked into

708
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:03,639
their backpacks, and they wouldn't be knocking on the door,

709
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,920
they'd be sneaking in through the side door.

710
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:13,159
Speaker 2: So I'm standing there, I'm like, I don't want to

711
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:14,480
do door here.

712
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:24,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, house, if he comes up that room, hent to

713
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:25,360
do something.

714
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: That's worth repeating in case you didn't understand. Morgan says,

715
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:39,280
you have to do something. Now we're in the house

716
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,679
and they'll call the law on us, to which Toby replies,

717
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,599
how's he gonna call the fucking law. He ain't got

718
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,000
no fingers.

719
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 7: In the room in the corner, So I think you

720
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,519
in the computer.

721
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 17: Started thinking like there turns towards.

722
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:09,559
Speaker 7: She's like, the go in there, he's.

723
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:17,679
Speaker 17: Gonna say, ship, I'm scared you count him prison life

724
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,800
for She was like, there, you've got this, You've got

725
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,199
to do this.

726
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,599
Speaker 2: So you guys are kind of arguing back and argue,

727
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:30,079
but kind of got disgusting it and like how you

728
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:30,760
read I'm.

729
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 8: About to go right in.

730
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,199
Speaker 19: I'm like, man, I took I took over my sweater,

731
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,119
my shirt, and I put it in chair.

732
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 7: You know, I didn't have no shirt on all right?

733
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,199
Speaker 2: Why I didn't want to get blood? And I don't

734
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:45,039
know that, So I was like, fuck it.

735
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:50,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like the adult in the pair was

736
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:54,320
the only one thinking of consequences. Toby didn't want to

737
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,719
get blood on his shirt, and he reminded Morgan of

738
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,519
what could happen.

739
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,079
Speaker 7: Don't want to fucking do this ship.

740
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: By this time, my MoMA was in tears. Maybe you

741
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,840
just don't know how long I will go away from it.

742
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,679
She was like, fucking fucking see me again.

743
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:27,159
Speaker 19: She was like, hide.

744
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,159
Speaker 7: This and that's word in my mind.

745
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 6: And I wouldn't.

746
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 7: I wouldn't confess this ship and nobody but see what

747
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:29,679
I did.

748
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:36,599
Speaker 3: Apparently so little did Toby know that Morgan either because

749
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,559
she had too much faith in her partnership, or because

750
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,400
she was immature and naive, or maybe because she was

751
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,079
smarter than he was and not said one word and

752
00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:52,039
would not confess until the next day, and she loves

753
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,360
best for me.

754
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: So probably fuck it.

755
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 19: I jumped into the fucking room. I'm like, listen here,

756
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,239
mother partner you know, around and he got his shocked

757
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,840
as I'm like, I wasn't playing and I was just like,

758
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,679
whatever money he hadn't leave him?

759
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 7: You know, what'd you say?

760
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,559
Speaker 2: He was like, motherfucker outtakesk have a call wall Oh,

761
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,480
like you meant me and you don't want to.

762
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 7: Function to do that? Do you want to stay?

763
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: At that point, James was still sitting down, His back

764
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,679
had been turned to Toby and Morgan. He hadn't noticed

765
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,679
them yet, but when he heard them, he swiveled around

766
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,480
and put his arms up. He was wearing a T shirt, underwear,

767
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,679
and socks in the comfort of his own living room,

768
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,719
where he'd been playing a game on the computer. When

769
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,360
he started to stand up, Toby grabbed a nearby knife

770
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:48,679
and started threatening him. All he wanted was keys to

771
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,119
the truck and cash, but for some reason, James kept

772
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:55,800
repeating that he couldn't even afford the truck, and this

773
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,760
made Toby angrier because that didn't make any sense to him,

774
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,800
being an idiot, of course, So I.

775
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 7: Was like, mother, give me a fuck g's right fucking now,

776
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,800
you don't give me a fucking keys and fucking cut.

777
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: You wide open.

778
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 8: He was like man, we're look here, look here.

779
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 7: I can't afford that trout. I was like, I don't

780
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,960
give a fuck. Are you gonna afford the trunk or not?

781
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,440
Give me the good damn keys, and I'll be eye

782
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,440
to your motherfucking hair.

783
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: James was getting closer.

784
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,119
Speaker 20: Like if he wanted to, he could grab that fucking

785
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:27,280
knife or how are you holding that something like or

786
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,519
something I'm holding.

787
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: A knightel like this, tell down like yeah.

788
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:31,559
Speaker 19: And I'm like I'm trying to keep it away from

789
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:33,400
you so you don't try to fucking grab or nothing.

790
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: But then Toby looked at him, and remember but I'm

791
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,440
looking at his hands.

792
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,599
Speaker 19: I'm like, man, this motherfucker can't grab the ship, right,

793
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,000
He's got a phone.

794
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 7: On one hand.

795
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, God damns, the big guy. Just fucking give

796
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,719
me the box for Jimmy's right. Look here, you give

797
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,840
me a fucking g's and we're out of your hair

798
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,360
and whatever money you fucking got, or I'm just gonna

799
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,440
take here in business right here.

800
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,679
Speaker 3: According to Toby, James fought back with everything he had,

801
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,679
but Toby had already decided how this was going to end.

802
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,519
Toby answered with a punch in the face. Breaking James's

803
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:18,159
glasses and puncturing his eye with a piece of the lens, and.

804
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, god damn it.

805
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 7: They and Morgan's like, fa fucking you the top of it,

806
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:26,119
fucking kiling right now?

807
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Did he followed the round yet?

808
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: The two got into a physical brawl on the floor,

809
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,760
and James defended himself fairly well, despite his limitations, maybe

810
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,960
a little too.

811
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 20: Well, I don't cut the mother clean to the fucking bone,

812
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,239
and yeah, okay, cut clean the fucking bone, like.

813
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 8: Was going everywhere.

814
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: My god, damn, I can I can see the fucking

815
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:53,960
bone in the fucking arms. It was a bitch, just like, yeah,

816
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,639
it was out sharing, it was sick.

817
00:46:58,119 --> 00:46:59,679
Speaker 19: It was like but once I've seen that bullet, all

818
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,079
like fucking out, I'm did and now was late, you know,

819
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,320
like I know, like, god damn, I'm fucking freaking out.

820
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 7: Now, Okay, I'm like.

821
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,199
Speaker 2: Baby something, she's staying the right side and she's still

822
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,559
over aa and the I'm.

823
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 7: Like, fucking something.

824
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: Do you understanding there?

825
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:21,639
Speaker 1: Do you hear how excited this idiot is. You can't

826
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,920
wait to tell his story?

827
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: Even the cops like gets a promo for some stupid

828
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,360
made for TV movie some people be dumbing. I'll bet

829
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,679
my cyber truck this retard watches a lot of wrestling,

830
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:35,480
and she.

831
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,519
Speaker 18: Hit him with the pipe and baby, but he like

832
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,320
one time, he's like, he's fucking laying five and the four.

833
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's laying five and the four. Now I'm fucking

834
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,079
the shoes I had on. I have some rewalked soldiers on,

835
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,760
but the fucking last strap going across the top. Okay,

836
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,199
and I got.

837
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 7: Fucking neck like this, I'm trying to choke him.

838
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you're fucking I'm trying to fucking break his

839
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,199
wimpipe jumping on it. Yeah, I kept stumbling on a

840
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,960
fucking windpipe.

841
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,159
Speaker 7: Player, I got damn you still.

842
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still trying to fight me off of it. Okay,

843
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:11,159
I'm like, man, fucking this man. I'll freaking out, man,

844
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,880
because I'm like, man, this motherfucker's close to dining already.

845
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,159
Speaker 7: Man, and leaned the dead.

846
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,639
Speaker 2: I was fucking arm, you know, fucking still struggling him.

847
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,599
Speaker 20: Yeah, I fliced him on this arm and I know

848
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,840
that fucking vein right there, straight lead and key to

849
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,199
your heart.

850
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's gonna bleed.

851
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 9: Like a motherfucker.

852
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm damn ba man, I'm fucking kicking and fucking

853
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,639
faith into the wall. You kicking kicking the neck, Yeah,

854
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:35,280
I'm kicking the neck. I'm trying to fucking classes wind pipes,

855
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,480
all right, I can't do it.

856
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 7: He's still fucking moved.

857
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes you kicked.

858
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 7: Him twenty five times, Like that's right.

859
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:43,599
Speaker 9: I'm fucking I'm glad.

860
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: I an't fricking No, I'm fucking kick people a lot.

861
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,519
Speaker 9: Just kept stopping there, telling him, damn.

862
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: I just kept doing to stop this because I didn't

863
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,039
know what the fuck to do.

864
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:53,119
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'll freaking out by this time.

865
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop the fucking knife.

866
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 7: Okay.

867
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I ain't got ship in my hand now, Okay,

868
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,559
I wor here.

869
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:01,039
Speaker 7: She's standing right beside me.

870
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:05,079
Speaker 3: Still imagine bragging about getting the better of a man

871
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,679
with no fingers. I mean, seriously, she was standing right

872
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,519
beside him because they never left each other's sides. According

873
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,519
to Morgan, did Toby.

874
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:18,559
Speaker 7: With Oldheim or did you go somewhere else and leave there?

875
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:22,960
Old He must he want me in my fight for sure.

876
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: He wouldn't let me out of the side.

877
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,639
Speaker 13: Out want my hair out of my side. He was like,

878
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,280
dead on, You're like.

879
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 7: Baby baby killing.

880
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 20: I'm like sea still kidding you, man, Oh my god, daring.

881
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,559
Speaker 2: Fucking charm SMaL bitch.

882
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 7: Okay.

883
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:46,679
Speaker 2: Watching the lad he was sucking win.

884
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 15: By my shoes.

885
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: It was like they were stamping out a bug or

886
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,719
a deadly snake, or like World of t Shirts stomping

887
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,480
on a fish. And there was Toby in his orange jumpsuit,

888
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:03,920
reliving it all with disturbing enthusiasm. I don't know about you,

889
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,639
but this is kind of a nauseating to me hearing

890
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,960
him so excited about telling the story. He was standing

891
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,760
now animated, his hands waving through the air as he

892
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,199
re enacted every brutal strike for a few minutes. It

893
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,639
wasn't a confession, it was a performance. Toby looked less

894
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,159
like a man haunted by what he'd done and more

895
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,119
like one who still felt the thrill of it.

896
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,039
Speaker 5: This is the worst case that I have encountered as

897
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:41,760
far as brutality and the circumstances surrounding the passing and

898
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,880
the killing of mister Stewart. I can't think of anything

899
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,719
in my eighteen years of practicing law that's that's been

900
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,679
this brutal.

901
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: Toby lifted his boot and brought it down hard on

902
00:50:54,679 --> 00:51:00,800
James Stuart's neck again and again, Die, son of a bitch.

903
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:08,880
But James didn't die. He was fighting as hard as

904
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,079
he could. This man who had endured a life of

905
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:18,719
trying to adapt, was desperately trying to survive, fighting as

906
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,880
hard as he could despite his physical disabilities. For all

907
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,320
the blood, all the blows, and all the ways his

908
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,199
body had been broken, he was still alive. And there

909
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,519
was still time for Toby and Morgan to leave with

910
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:38,159
James's soul still intact. But that wasn't part of the plan.

911
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,159
What came next wasn't just brutal, It was absolutely merciless.

912
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,880
In April of two thousand and eight, fifteen year old

913
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,159
Morgan Leopard and twenty two year old Toby Laurie vanished

914
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:23,199
from Melrose, Florida, in a stolen silver Toyota Tacoma Great Truck.

915
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,639
By the way, it's one of our sponsors anyway. Days earlier,

916
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:31,639
Morgan had been reported missing, and investigators soon discovered she

917
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,000
wasn't just a runaway.

918
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: She and Toby had.

919
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: Been involved in a violent crime, and that's quite an understatement.

920
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Their trail led back to the home of sixty six.

921
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,199
Speaker 1: Year old James Stewart, a disabled.

922
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: Man who was found murdered in his own home. His

923
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:55,079
pristine truck was missing, and the suspects were nowhere to

924
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:59,639
be found. As authorities pieced together this timeline, they realized

925
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,760
this wasn't just a case of teenage rebellion. That was

926
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,159
something a lot darker. Sitting in an interrogation room over

927
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,159
one thousand miles away, Toby Laurie was recounting every last detail,

928
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:19,719
each thought and each action. Even detectives were mortified at

929
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,639
the number of times Toby stomped on James's neck while

930
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:26,199
he was on the floor, But what he had to

931
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,679
say next was far worse than anyone expected.

932
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: I get down on the grounds, grandon knife now fucking chairs.

933
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 9: How many times?

934
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: Well, the Knight woudn't going At first.

935
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,599
Speaker 19: I tried to fuck to put the knife on the

936
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,119
chest and pushed down it, but he kept trying to

937
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,199
fucking for the book.

938
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,119
Speaker 2: He was still alive.

939
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,519
Speaker 9: He just throw up in the chest right here.

940
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 7: I know how many.

941
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:53,639
Speaker 2: No, I'm tried to standing once.

942
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 7: I know that in con I'll touched down. And when

943
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,639
I came to, when I was his face, his whole

944
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,920
face was fucking purple. Yep, bloody yep.

945
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 19: Fucking there was chunks of brains coming out of his

946
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,199
fucking nose.

947
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 7: Cartilage coming out of his fucking nose.

948
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,079
Speaker 2: Not moving, He's not he he he, He's still moving

949
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:15,519
a little bit. It's like twitching order.

950
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:19,519
Speaker 7: And he's like, he's he's trying to fucking breathe.

951
00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:22,039
Speaker 2: Sure, I done fucking broke his nose and shit, and

952
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:22,840
probably too.

953
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's trying to breathe. I still see his fucking

954
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,159
heart beating in his fucking chest.

955
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,519
Speaker 2: He's done pisted on himself. He pissed blood out of

956
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:29,840
his state.

957
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:37,039
Speaker 9: Their blood everywhere, blowing the wall and shit. I'm like, god, damn, God, damn,

958
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:39,559
God damn, God damn bringing out breaking out, fucking up

959
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:40,440
FoST markets.

960
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: And she's like, she's like, make me move, Hey me

961
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,559
move move.

962
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:46,639
Speaker 7: I'm like, why the fuck you wanna move?

963
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 20: I fucking m I moved because I don't out of breath.

964
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,760
I couldn't fucking breathe in the office, it was just

965
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,719
it was burning right here. You don't you, Yeah, it

966
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,920
was just fucking burning. I then there was nothing I

967
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,760
could do, but it was just fucking burning and I

968
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,079
woke in the other section of the house for a minute.

969
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:13,519
Speaker 2: And I here, I threw it around the morning if

970
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,079
I beat the ship into the pipe to beat the

971
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:19,679
shadow where and face the sheet hit him in face.

972
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 19: Hord.

973
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 3: Toby had stepped away from the scene for just a

974
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,960
minute to use his inhaler, which is fucking hilarious A

975
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:31,760
killer with asthma. All that action had left him breathless

976
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,800
and he had plenty of life left done like James

977
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,920
his victim, it was struggling with everything he had to

978
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:39,519
stay in the.

979
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: Fight, but he was losing.

980
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: And then through the wheeze and the chaos, Toby saw

981
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,119
something that he wasn't prepared for.

982
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,639
Speaker 7: I'm my baby, I gotta get the shower.

983
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,199
Speaker 19: I can't have the fucking bottle and the other I'm

984
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,960
about to cry out, get in the shower.

985
00:55:57,679 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: Shower, Yeah, which one.

986
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 7: I went right there and he was lag and I

987
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,719
took a shower right there.

988
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 19: And as I'm taking the shower, I've seen Morgan.

989
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:15,559
Speaker 2: I'm not sens and honor, I'm not understand. Don't get

990
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,199
your own I understand. Just just finish it out there

991
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,280
because the heros are with You're nine a half cents there.

992
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:28,119
I seen Morgan stabbings and test at least twice. There

993
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:29,400
was three stabbed his chest.

994
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 6: The airms like bam, bam bam.

995
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,599
Speaker 3: There were three stab wounds because Toby had just finished

996
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:39,800
stabbing him once and then Morgan took over. When Toby

997
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,360
got out of the shower, he realized that James was

998
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,320
still alive.

999
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:46,079
Speaker 6: He's still time I talk.

1000
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:48,119
Speaker 17: You can't ask him to play round me.

1001
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 21: So being yeah, the fucking I went and got a

1002
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:55,239
gars back, right where'd you get it from?

1003
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 7: And the uh canon?

1004
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,119
Speaker 2: And so he went, yeah, okay, I throw he got

1005
00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:05,239
his head uh twins some designs, I come, We're gonna

1006
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:07,199
with that little bit. It's mostly by hand with a

1007
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,199
problem bag, right, I fell ever bring her hand? Where

1008
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:10,719
you handling it?

1009
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,159
Speaker 7: Okay?

1010
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 10: And I didn't.

1011
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,559
Speaker 17: I lost the beginning and started beating the faith.

1012
00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: Then I said, okay, bird his nose the nose was

1013
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:21,880
like you beat your beat?

1014
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:23,159
Speaker 8: Is you hold up packet?

1015
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:24,719
Speaker 19: Yeah, he's still trying to breathe.

1016
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 7: I can like to see like a bubble.

1017
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: Come up from Orizond's move.

1018
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 21: I still see the heart, the heart beating all right,

1019
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,280
and I'm like.

1020
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:34,559
Speaker 9: Lost.

1021
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 7: I felt it was no to.

1022
00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: Break three times. It's a pocket bag on his head.

1023
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:45,159
Speaker 20: Yeah, they just I s I felt it was nae

1024
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:48,119
to break three times when they nose bird three times

1025
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:48,760
and stats winning.

1026
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 8: Fucking that was it.

1027
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,239
Speaker 2: That's when he passed. Cause I think I I pushed

1028
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,880
the thune up into his brain or something. You at

1029
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,119
least it was made of a surfer though.

1030
00:57:57,239 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was.

1031
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,199
Speaker 21: Fucking not pretty mud as far as the misery.

1032
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,119
Speaker 5: And m.

1033
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,679
Speaker 8: Right, So all I do is like you.

1034
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:15,239
Speaker 2: Can justify, you can juify to yourself. There was reasons

1035
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:16,559
why he did it, and I think you did it.

1036
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 7: You just he did it for me.

1037
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 21: You justified that you were in a hard times already

1038
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,480
trying to help out your wife or your wife could

1039
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:23,719
be I should say, and.

1040
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 22: Your baby in that building, and you know what could be. Unfortunately,

1041
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,800
you still have to provide to him. So do you

1042
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,800
understand that, Right, he's supposed to be there, then he

1043
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,199
supposed to be a cooler, He's still going to be

1044
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:35,920
a husband figure.

1045
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: Tour can I as a batter?

1046
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: Toby had just described James's final moments in chilling detail,

1047
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,559
saying he had to put him out of his misery

1048
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,679
like a lame horse or an injured animal, but somewhere

1049
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:53,679
in his core he was finally feeling remorse and it

1050
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,320
was visible to detectives. It seems like sympathizing with a killer.

1051
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,679
This technique that detectives used to keep a suspect talking

1052
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,960
to stop them from shutting down. But in this moment,

1053
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:09,320
after the sheer horror of what Toby had just described,

1054
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:16,800
it felt grotesque because what had just happened wasn't about love.

1055
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:20,880
It wasn't about love at all, and no words, no

1056
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,280
justification could change that. At the murder scene, just before

1057
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,400
they left, this is what Morgan said that She told me.

1058
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,639
Speaker 2: She was like, we just took a human life, Like,

1059
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,000
no shit, I wanted did it?

1060
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,039
Speaker 7: You mean you held doubt but.

1061
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: He should.

1062
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 18: And eating at me and I wanted to come clain

1063
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,440
so bad, but I didn't want to get prison for the.

1064
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: Rest of my part of life.

1065
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,559
Speaker 3: Was he really morseful or did he just fear the

1066
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:06,559
consequences of being in prison for life and being without

1067
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:10,159
the love of his life. Prison, of course, is exactly

1068
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,920
where he landed. In twenty ten, both Toby Laurie and

1069
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:18,360
Morgan Leppert stood trial for the murder of James Stewart.

1070
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,280
Prosecutors argued that this wasn't the spontaneous act of violence.

1071
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:30,880
It was calculated, cold and relentless. Toby, the adult of

1072
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,559
the couple, pleaded guilty to first degree murder and was

1073
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:38,719
sentenced to life without parole. During the trial, Morgan's defense

1074
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,119
team painted her as a naive, manipulated teenager under the

1075
01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:47,719
control of an older, violent man. Courts love it when

1076
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,920
women get off on the same crime that a man committed.

1077
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,599
Not exactly sure why, maybe some of that old chivalry

1078
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:59,760
from the dark Ages. They argued that Toby Laurie was

1079
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,159
the mastermind, that he orchestrated the attack, that Morgan was

1080
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,920
just following orders. Too young, too impressionable. Do you understand

1081
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,719
the weight of her actions?

1082
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,679
Speaker 13: They're always gonna call the cops. Toby said, no, the

1083
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,400
hell you wait and Boom.

1084
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,679
Speaker 8: Pushed him right in the face.

1085
01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:20,719
Speaker 13: Man, I just go away.

1086
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 12: I was about to cry Totob.

1087
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,159
Speaker 20: I was about a tetobia.

1088
01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:25,039
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this.

1089
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 10: But Toby just already hit him, and he's like, come on, baby,

1090
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:30,880
come on and hit him.

1091
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: Hit him.

1092
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,519
Speaker 1: But the prosecution had a different take on it.

1093
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,679
Speaker 5: I mean as far as like, who was the ringleader?

1094
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,840
I mean, the only people who know what happened in

1095
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:46,719
that house are Morgan, Toby, and mister Stewart. So what

1096
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,320
the jury found was that she was guilty of first

1097
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,039
degree murder because she participated in the in the murder

1098
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,039
exactly what she did. Really, the only people alive who

1099
01:01:58,199 --> 01:02:02,480
know are Toby and Morgan. But the jury did find

1100
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:06,679
that she intended to commit premeditated murder and in fact

1101
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:08,679
killed mister Stewart.

1102
01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: Morgan, just fifteen at the time, was convicted of first

1103
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:17,599
degree murder and armed robbery under Florida law. She received

1104
01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:22,199
a mandatory life sentence without parole, a punishment usually reserved

1105
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,360
only for adults.

1106
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: But and here we go.

1107
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,039
Speaker 3: In twenty twelve, the US Supreme Court ruled that mandatory

1108
01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:37,559
life sentences for juveniles were unconstitutional, despite what monsters they

1109
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:42,199
could be. That decision gave Morgan a second chance, at

1110
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,920
least in the courtroom. In twenty twenty, she was re

1111
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:50,039
sentenced to forty years in prison, a reduced sentence but

1112
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,159
still long enough to make sure she won't walk free

1113
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:57,239
until she's well into her fifties. I'm sure forty years

1114
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,199
in prison will rehabilitate her.

1115
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 8: Oh.

1116
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,079
Speaker 3: Morgan claimed that she was pregnant, but miscarried in jail,

1117
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,920
so probably no kids in her future. James Stewart lived alone.

1118
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,639
He was disabled, he'd already proved to the world that

1119
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,280
he was stronger than his disabilities. In fact, he was

1120
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,480
so strong that Toby and Morgan could have walked away

1121
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:23,440
more than once while he was still alive, but they

1122
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:29,199
decided not to. James's family will miss him dearly. This

1123
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,639
is a statement from his nephew. My uncle was the

1124
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,079
type of man that anyone around him who was ready

1125
01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:40,159
to take life head on should have had the opportunity

1126
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,920
to meet or speak with those who were lucky enough

1127
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,199
to spend time with. My uncle soon learned that there

1128
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,880
was nothing that he could not do. The man was

1129
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,440
truly amazing. Things that I hear people young and old

1130
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:59,159
say that they can't do are things he called speed

1131
01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:03,480
bumps or obstacles. Not having hands did not slow him

1132
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:08,239
down one bit. The thing is he did things most

1133
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,239
people don't dream of accomplishing in their lifetime.

1134
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,239
Speaker 7: He was a master.

1135
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 3: Carpenter, a professor, He skied, played tennis, bold He was

1136
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:23,920
a commercial fisherman. The list goes on and on. Most

1137
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,320
of the cars he owned were stick shifts with no

1138
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:30,639
power steering. My uncle taught me that the word can't

1139
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,159
is for cowards, losers, and people that see hard times

1140
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,360
or difficult tasks and give up. I was lucky enough

1141
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,920
to be able to spend time with this amazing man

1142
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,079
and have some of that greatness rub off on me.

1143
01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:49,960
But my son and future children will only be able

1144
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:53,159
to hear stories of this great man that I have

1145
01:04:53,360 --> 01:05:00,719
called uncle. For centuries, velosiphers have pondered what love is.

1146
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,119
They've done it for as long as there have been philosophers.

1147
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,639
Speaker 7: But what do they know?

1148
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: People with nothing but the luxury to sit around thinking

1149
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,880
all day and ponder things, those are usually the people

1150
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:20,000
that are most disconnected from reality. Hey, I'm describing myself,

1151
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:23,280
all right, so let's give it a shot.

1152
01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:24,719
Speaker 13: Love is.

1153
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: Fuck?

1154
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm sure Morgan doesn't know either.

1155
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 19: Too much.

1156
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:45,199
Speaker 3: Morgan had an obsessive, all consuming type of quote unquote

1157
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:50,039
love for Toby, the kind that rewired her dumb little

1158
01:05:50,119 --> 01:05:54,559
brain and twisted whatever immature concept stood in for logic.

1159
01:05:55,599 --> 01:06:00,280
This obsession drowned out all reason and convinced her that

1160
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,159
nothing else mattered. It's a kind of thing you see

1161
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:10,599
in movies, bad ones. Morgan was fifteen, reckless, desperate for freedom,

1162
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,880
and convinced that Toby Laurie was the answer. He made

1163
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,119
her feel untouchable, like the world belong just to the

1164
01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:22,760
two of them. A lot of people don't realize that

1165
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,880
Romeo and Juliet is a tragedy, not a romance. I,

1166
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,760
on the other hand, treat it like a comedy, because

1167
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,440
if God gave you a brain, then you have the

1168
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:37,760
responsibility to use it every now and then. And for Toby,

1169
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,599
Morgan was also an obsession. She was something to possess,

1170
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,360
to run away with, to kill for because he was

1171
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,639
lonely and wanted a hole to put his dick in.

1172
01:06:50,639 --> 01:06:56,199
That's it, That's what she was for Toby. Real love

1173
01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:02,039
doesn't ask for everything you have. Oh why anyone has

1174
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:05,639
to actually say that out loud. It doesn't demand a

1175
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:10,239
sacrifice in blood. It doesn't turn a teenage girl into

1176
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,639
a murderer, or leave an innocent disabled man gasping for

1177
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,320
his final breath on the floor of his own living room.

1178
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 22: That I do know.

1179
01:07:20,639 --> 01:07:25,599
Speaker 3: Even dumb old me James Stewart didn't know Morgan and Toby.

1180
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:30,519
He wasn't part of their stupid fantasy or their twisted rebellion.

1181
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,320
He gained nothing from being in the proximity of Dumb,

1182
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,000
but unfortunately for him, he ended up being part of

1183
01:07:41,079 --> 01:08:04,920
their sacrifice and quote unquote love. Anyway, well, I'm not

1184
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,639
going to beg you to watch SMSTV again.

1185
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Speaker 1: You're an adult.

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Speaker 3: You go figure out what to do, at least I

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hope so otherwise, go find your parents. What the fuck

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are they doing. I shouldn't be listening to this swordscale

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dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe,