Speaker 1: Welcome to the Funny Kind with Erica Gummeny, bringing heart,
Speaker 1: humor and hope to everyday life. Laughter and love really
Speaker 1: do make a difference, and Erica's here to prove it.
Speaker 1: Part deep Dive, part stand Up for the Soul, this
Speaker 1: show blends humor, heart and real talk to help you
Speaker 1: stop believing the lies that hold you back. Whether she's
Speaker 1: flying solo or chatting with guests, Erica brings her signature
Speaker 1: mix of authenticity, wit and wisdom, reminding you that growth
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be so serious. So pull up a chair, exhale,
Speaker 1: and get ready to laugh, reflect, and reconnect with the
Speaker 1: extraordinary human you already are. Because this is the Funny
Speaker 1: Kind where humor meets healing and inspiration meets action.
Speaker 2: Next episode, you are in for a treat. I can
Speaker 2: I cannot promise that we will stay on task, but
Speaker 2: I can promise you that you will be inspired, and
Speaker 2: you will laugh and you might cry. But let me
Speaker 2: just say this is our first international guest here on
Speaker 2: the phone. O so Bron Watson from the land of Australia.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Funny Kind.
Speaker 3: Oh look, thank you for having me, my darling friend.
Speaker 3: It's just fabulous to be here.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I just want you to tell me
Speaker 2: a story, a long story, and I just sit there
Speaker 2: and just listen to talk to me. That's all I want.
Speaker 3: Once upon a time in a far away land.
Speaker 2: Love it, Love it.
Speaker 3: I used to read to my children every day. But anyway,
Speaker 3: let's stick to the program.
Speaker 2: We're already doing it, okay, So let me introduce Bron.
Speaker 2: We are going to have a really good conversation today.
Speaker 2: But let me just tell you a little bit about
Speaker 2: this wonderful woman that you have looking at you in
Speaker 2: this moment. Hopefully or you'll be listening to her voice
Speaker 2: either way. So I'm going to read this amazing bio
Speaker 2: because I don't want to miss a bit. Bron Watson
Speaker 2: is a nurse, educator, entrepreneur and founder of the Social
Speaker 2: Coach and the Serenity Project, which we're going to talk
Speaker 2: a lot about today, with decades of experience as a
Speaker 2: registered nurse and educator. And she's so young, so I
Speaker 2: don't know how she's had decades of experience. Maybe rules
Speaker 2: are different in Australia. Bron has been drawn to spaces
Speaker 2: where care, communication and connection matter, so obviously we were
Speaker 2: drawn to each other in that way. In twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: Bron Brown Brown Bru founded her first business, empowering business
Speaker 2: owners to share their voice online with authenticity and purpose.
Speaker 2: Over the past decade, her work has supported thousands of
Speaker 2: people to show up in life, in life and business
Speaker 2: with intention and impact. So that is who Braun is
Speaker 2: when she shows up. So of course it would be
Speaker 2: in her nature to help other people do what she
Speaker 2: has done, So it's awesome. Bron's journey took a profound
Speaker 2: shift in twenty seventeen when she was diagnosed with breast
Speaker 2: cancer and then five years later she received a second
Speaker 2: diagnosis and incurable blood cancer. So these experiences deepened her
Speaker 2: belief that healing isn't just physical, it's emotional, spiritual, and
Speaker 2: deeply personal. And this is my favorite part is rather
Speaker 2: than being defined by her diagnosis, Broun created this Serenity
Speaker 2: Project to offer others what she wished she had, which
Speaker 2: is the space where science meets soul with evidence and
Speaker 2: perspective and what she calls the third space, a place
Speaker 2: to reconnect with yourself, to navigate uncertainty with compassion and
Speaker 2: find serenity in the midst of it all. So thanks
Speaker 2: for letting me read through that because it was so
Speaker 2: well written and it is so beautiful, and I love
Speaker 2: that you are here with us today where we're going
Speaker 2: to kind of talk a little bit about what we're
Speaker 2: what I'm doing and what you're doing, and like the
Speaker 2: perfect synergy may that word, but synergy of what we're doing.
Speaker 2: So in Journey from the Ashes, oh look, I just
Speaker 2: happen to have a copywriter.
Speaker 3: I have a copy too, might I add? I do?
Speaker 3: I love it? Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: And so this every month has a theme, and this
Speaker 2: month's theme is repurposed. So Journey from the Ashes is
Speaker 2: learning to let go of the lies that are holding
Speaker 2: you back, stories you're telling yourself, and repurposed for me
Speaker 2: was like, no matter what, pardon my language, shit has
Speaker 2: happened to you. It is happening to you. It doesn't
Speaker 2: define you. And not to say that you want to
Speaker 2: put lipstick on a pig or try to have this
Speaker 2: pressure of making purpose out of it, but there can
Speaker 2: be a repurpose in your life. So I thought, what
Speaker 2: a perfect month to have this wonderful woman with us
Speaker 2: here today.
Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you, thank you. And now that
Speaker 3: I realize that's the theme, of course right, because makes
Speaker 3: complete sense.
Speaker 2: I know it's so cool. So tell us a little
Speaker 2: bit more like when you think about that, you know,
Speaker 2: the journey that I mentioned just in a little bit
Speaker 2: in your bio and kind of where you're at with
Speaker 2: this serenity project and the repurposing that's kind of happening
Speaker 2: in your life. Tell us, tell us what you what
Speaker 2: you think about all that?
Speaker 3: Well, you know when you when you hear a bio
Speaker 3: read out and you're thinking, oh, I wonder who that is,
Speaker 3: Like what did I do all those things? And it's
Speaker 3: it's like this long bio. I'm thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 3: there's so much to say and and I think that's
Speaker 3: so much out there is And I think that the
Speaker 3: biggest thing to pook some context for your audience is
Speaker 3: around the fact that you know, I grew up as
Speaker 3: the good girl. I'm the one who did nursing. I'm
Speaker 3: the one who helped everybody. I was always the one
Speaker 3: first up at anybody's house to how can I help you?
Speaker 3: In the kitchen? Can I help?
Speaker 2: Can I help?
Speaker 3: And you know, I would see other people just sitting
Speaker 3: back and relaxing, and I think what they want to help?
Speaker 3: So I was the one jumping around helping everybody, anyone
Speaker 3: who needed up.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was the girl at school that people would come
Speaker 3: to talk and ask and go through their problems. And
Speaker 3: I think that maybe that's part of being a listener.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know anyway, So moving through all of
Speaker 3: the then, of course having five sons, five boys.
Speaker 2: Again, and you are I mean that could be.
Speaker 3: I'm still upright and I'm not an alcoholic, so it's
Speaker 3: you know, go me. But you know it used to
Speaker 3: take me fifteen minutes just to get in the car.
Speaker 3: You try getting five kids in the car. Shoes, bags, hats,
Speaker 3: Why have you got two different shoes on?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Where are your shoes? I threw them on the riff
Speaker 3: at school? This, no lie, why would you throw your shoes? Anyway,
Speaker 3: I digress. But moving through all of that, give give, Give, Give, Give,
Speaker 3: which I as who I am. And it's not till
Speaker 3: you know when I hear the word repurpose. It wasn't
Speaker 3: my choice. I didn't realize I needed this lesson, but
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for it. So what it became was
Speaker 3: through the businesses again, helping everybody, and at times I
Speaker 3: would I would be more vested in someone's business than
Speaker 3: they were. And that's during and it was the it
Speaker 3: was a highlight in those earlier years as a mentor
Speaker 3: that I pulled back one hang on a minute, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, I take take no credit and take no blame.
Speaker 3: So I had to learn that because I just wanted
Speaker 3: someone to succeed. And I could see it because my
Speaker 3: top strength in life is strategic. So here I am.
Speaker 3: I can see what they've got to do. I can
Speaker 3: see where it's going to go. They can't. But I
Speaker 3: would get too vested, always coming back to give, give, give,
Speaker 3: and it's not till you literally can't anymore. That after
Speaker 3: the second diagnosis, which that was a shocker, so I'd
Speaker 3: already done what I thought was all the work. I'd
Speaker 3: been given the five year clearance, bless and release, you're healed, off,
Speaker 3: you go ron that I was on the floor and
Speaker 3: there was nothing left. There was nothing left, and I
Speaker 3: just and I was facing chemotherapy again, and I'm facing
Speaker 3: a stem cell transplant, which is where they take your
Speaker 3: baby stem cells out with a massive, big line in
Speaker 3: your neck. Then they give them back to you and
Speaker 3: then you're in hospital for you up, very very sick.
Speaker 3: They It's a very, very significant thing to go through.
Speaker 3: And it was at that time that I would sit
Speaker 3: and think there was nothing left. I could no longer
Speaker 3: put on my mask of helping, I could no longer
Speaker 3: put on my mask of hey guys, everything's fine, it's
Speaker 3: all great. And that is where the repurposing began, because
Speaker 3: I learnt the lesson that self care was not. I
Speaker 3: used to think it was a luxury. Oh where the
Speaker 3: heck did that come from? Okay, how did I believe?
Speaker 3: And I don't even know if I believed that? It
Speaker 3: was just there.
Speaker 2: And even if we're across the globe, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like our cultures are different, we've grown up
Speaker 2: in different places, our languages are different, and yet we
Speaker 2: still have these same norms. It's not interesting, yep.
Speaker 3: And and it was just like I look and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, bron you're an educated woman. How did you
Speaker 3: miss that memo? What?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: And a lot of it came, honestly, a lot of
Speaker 3: that came from online be remembering I've got a dual
Speaker 3: career in marketing and nursing and then in the digital space.
Speaker 3: It's portrayed to be when you're successful. Back in the
Speaker 3: last ten years was to hustle, hustle health. Thank goodness,
Speaker 3: well we're starting to change it, right, so but hustle, hustle, hustle,
Speaker 3: you got it. And that was what I call being relentless.
Speaker 3: I was on a relentless quest to succeed. And I succeeded,
Speaker 3: but it came in a massive cost. And it wasn't
Speaker 3: till the point where I could no longer literally be
Speaker 3: bron ron was you know, I literally call it the
Speaker 3: old bron It's almost like it, you know. And when
Speaker 3: you have a stem cell transplant, they call it a rebirths.
Speaker 3: I don't like it. They call it mar it's my
Speaker 3: rebirth first birthday. But I have respect for those in
Speaker 3: that space because it's the celebration that they're still on
Speaker 3: this planet. So let's be thankful for the technology. But
Speaker 3: it's not till for me. It wasn't till I couldn't
Speaker 3: did I actually slow down enough and start listening to
Speaker 3: my inner voice, listening to insert whoever you believe in God,
Speaker 3: higher purpose, whatever, that I started to listen and go,
Speaker 3: this is way bigger than me. I can't get out
Speaker 3: of this one, cannot fix this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, And how I think like now that your
Speaker 2: you're steps ahead from when that first moment happened. How
Speaker 2: did how did everybody react when when you began this
Speaker 2: repurposing of who you were? And I can imagine if
Speaker 2: I have one of you in my life, I'd probably
Speaker 2: be pretty reliant on you to help me through everything
Speaker 2: I needed. You know, like, well did you have like
Speaker 2: cereal out there where there was this little character Makey.
Speaker 2: It was like Mikey a leader, Mikey, he'll do anything.
Speaker 2: It was like mich He'll do it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, after around the first diagnosis, would actually been through
Speaker 3: quite a significant challenge with one of our boys. And
Speaker 3: at the time of the cancer, the closest group of
Speaker 3: friends I had, they have that they've been gone for
Speaker 3: a long time now. So people come for seasons and
Speaker 3: I grieved for probably at least a couple of years,
Speaker 3: like where were my friends when I needed them? They
Speaker 3: were gone? And you know, people, I have no expectation
Speaker 3: of how someone will or will not handle when you
Speaker 3: say to someone you have an incurable diagnos Some people
Speaker 3: they just can't handle it. And I look at them
Speaker 3: and go, guys, I'm not dying, I'm not dead. I'm
Speaker 3: absolutely sweet do I look sweet? I am sweet, And
Speaker 3: so with my children. What happened was I was no
Speaker 3: longer sugarcoating life, so I'd stopped. I'd already started doing
Speaker 3: that already, but I would cry this time, whereas before
Speaker 3: the first diagnosis I was I would say, you know,
Speaker 3: you don't know how strong you are until you have
Speaker 3: no choice, which is true, but I'd wear it like
Speaker 3: a badge of honor, versus saying it you don't know
Speaker 3: how strong you are until you have no choice, but vulnerability,
Speaker 3: being vulnerable to yourself, Because then I started to be
Speaker 3: true for me. I then, of course became starting to
Speaker 3: be true. I have amazing relationships with all my boys,
Speaker 3: and I now talk them through. I will cry in
Speaker 3: front of I sweeze to have the swear jar in
Speaker 3: our house for the f work to see, you know,
Speaker 3: and I had a twenty five dollar fee. So once
Speaker 3: the second diagnosis came down, well I might as well
Speaker 3: just pop the phone in the jar, just leave it
Speaker 3: there like an f poss machine. And so the kids
Speaker 3: started to see more the real Bron because Bron and
Speaker 3: it's the best thing I've ever done for myself and
Speaker 3: of course my children and my family around me and
Speaker 3: and I have no expectation that if people can't handle it,
Speaker 3: that's okay, that's okay. I love I love them through it.
Speaker 3: I have compassion. But my encouragement for those who are listening,
Speaker 3: who have friends and family going through and living through cancer,
Speaker 3: just acknowledge them. Just acknowledge the situation. You can't fix it.
Speaker 3: Remember I was misusfix it. We will were a lot
Speaker 3: of us are missus fix it. So when you all
Speaker 3: mister fix it, when you can't fix things, just acknowledge
Speaker 3: them and love them through it.
Speaker 2: Don't try. I can't try to make them feel better.
Speaker 3: Or no, you don't need to make them feel better.
Speaker 3: And you don't need to tell them that Aunt Joan
Speaker 3: she had multimal mile I am and she's still alive.
Speaker 3: Or my aunt Beth and Evil she died, well, thank
Speaker 3: you for that. Don't worry about it and that because
Speaker 3: that's your way of coping because you don't know what
Speaker 3: to say, so you say something. Don't say anything other
Speaker 3: than oh my god, that sucks. Are you okay? How
Speaker 3: can I support you? Not give me a call if
Speaker 3: you need anything. They're not gonna call. No one's gonna call.
Speaker 3: How can I support you. What's your favorite dinner? You
Speaker 3: like that pizza shop? Here an anonymous voucher in the mailbox.
Speaker 2: Yes. I remember when my husband had cancer and we
Speaker 2: had somebody that would come over and I noticed, like
Speaker 2: our bushes were trimmed in our lawn was mode and
Speaker 2: I was like, who who did that? And they came
Speaker 2: over and it was It really changed me to see
Speaker 2: that versus doing it for pomp and circumstance. And yep,
Speaker 2: And I know I struggle. I try really hard to
Speaker 2: sit in the muck with people and not try to
Speaker 2: clean it up. But I was just having coffee with
Speaker 2: a friend the other day and I found myself, you
Speaker 2: know how people are like I have cancer or and
Speaker 2: there's and I was like, well you had, and I
Speaker 2: felt that I needed a correct her and I was
Speaker 2: like I need to reach out to apologize for that
Speaker 2: because that was not my What did they say that for?
Speaker 2: I was trying to be.
Speaker 3: You know, well you and you want to be positive, right,
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's over, Thank god, Ron, you must be
Speaker 3: so happy. It's all like, it's not over. It's never over.
Speaker 3: Even if you're ten years out, you're still like with
Speaker 3: the breastcancer, I my ease out. It's not over. I'm
Speaker 3: still taking a tablet. I still have annual scans m hm.
Speaker 2: And every time you have a car for anything that yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: Especially for my alignment with bones and things. Right. So
Speaker 3: it's just to me that acknowledgment is so important to
Speaker 3: support that person however they want to go through their journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah is yeah, but it's you know, I'm so but
Speaker 3: this is going to sound kind of weird. I'm so
Speaker 3: grateful for what I've learned because now my cup is
Speaker 3: full every day, well up and down, up and down,
Speaker 3: but it's never empty. Whereas before I was living on
Speaker 3: energy from two years in advance.
Speaker 2: Say more about that.
Speaker 3: Because I was relentless. I'm now resilient and I thought
Speaker 3: I was resilient, and I was resilient, but I wasn't
Speaker 3: resilient from a place of supporting myself first.
Speaker 2: And maybe for serenity to kind of tie back into
Speaker 2: what you're doing, it is serenity.
Speaker 3: It is serenity. And they're called serenity moments because you
Speaker 3: can't you know, like you can't just sit there and
Speaker 3: you know, it's not loa rambos and lollipops all day
Speaker 3: and meditating and journaling. That's not how it works, right,
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 2: Don't like it when people say, you know, God only
Speaker 2: gives you what you can handle or be able to have.
Speaker 2: That to me, fight fight, answer, like you have some
Speaker 2: power to fight and win, and then if you don't,
Speaker 2: you lose, like you've lot your a loser.
Speaker 3: Like I did have someone say it's yeah, I did
Speaker 3: have someone say to me it was you know, this
Speaker 3: is God's will? What really really believe that? Okay, that's
Speaker 3: great for you. For me, absolutely not. God didn't chooses.
Speaker 3: But God is with me, yeah, to help me learn
Speaker 3: through the grief and the gratitude because they co exist.
Speaker 2: I really like, I really like a lot of the
Speaker 2: wording that you have, and well I love everything that
Speaker 2: you do. And just as a little quick break, and
Speaker 2: we we're probably gonna go over a little bit, but
Speaker 2: I can't help it. But Bron and I met here
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. She came all the way from Australia for
Speaker 2: a speaking event that we both did and fell in
Speaker 2: love instantly. And you might we didn't even talk about
Speaker 2: why we're calling this Elder Buns. No, Okay, so you
Speaker 2: noticed that I have.
Speaker 3: In Australia we didn't even know what elder buns are,
Speaker 3: but we just made.
Speaker 2: It brown and Erica copyright trademark, don't steal it. So
Speaker 2: I girls that put their hair in a bun look
Speaker 2: so cute, and it's this messy bun me I look
Speaker 2: like a ballerina. I can't ever do it right, so
Speaker 2: I call it my elder bun. And Bron thought it
Speaker 2: was hilarious, old bunch joking around and said that we're
Speaker 2: elder buns. And I of course loved Bron immediately because
Speaker 2: of her accent. I loved her soul and her spirit.
Speaker 2: I love her husband like they are just effervescent humans.
Speaker 2: People just flop to them. And I love making her laugh.
Speaker 2: And I sent we have a picture of me of
Speaker 2: Bron laughing, and it's my favorite picture. So we'll pop
Speaker 2: it up so you can see it because I just
Speaker 2: love her so much.
Speaker 3: Is it a good one? I haven't seen it. People
Speaker 3: just saying, yes, you have.
Speaker 2: I sent it to you.
Speaker 3: My post, Brian, I wouldn't have a clue, right.
Speaker 2: I know. I know it's like, oh okay, so let's
Speaker 2: let's let's get to what you're because the whole repurposing
Speaker 2: thing I don't ever want to say, like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a pressure to be like this terrible thing happens
Speaker 2: and I have to make purpose out of it.
Speaker 3: I agree completely.
Speaker 2: That's and real complaining here. So tell us, tell us
Speaker 2: about Serenity Project and what what how you can maybe
Speaker 2: connect that to repurposing or whatever you want to say
Speaker 2: that people can you know, I have friends who are
Speaker 2: who are I know will resonate with the work that
Speaker 2: you're doing. So tell us what you want to tell
Speaker 2: us and we'll have links everything.
Speaker 3: And oh thank you dolly. So it all came about
Speaker 3: because I am the Serenity Project, just so you know.
Speaker 3: So with all of the things that has happened over
Speaker 3: the years, and when you are brought to not on
Speaker 3: your knees, when you are flat on the floorboards and
Speaker 3: you have nothing left, nothing left, and there's only one
Speaker 3: place you can go for me, and that was to
Speaker 3: go inwards. And so I started to do some work
Speaker 3: on myself around energy and forgiveness and compassion. And so
Speaker 3: when it comes to living through cancer, you get given
Speaker 3: a treat Meant book and that's in Australia where I live.
Speaker 3: There's no integrative medicine. You've got to go find it.
Speaker 3: And I'm educated. I'm looking, I'm finding, I'm looking at
Speaker 3: all the things, and it's very fragmented, and which means
Speaker 3: you've got medicine. I love it when people go, you know,
Speaker 3: alternative therapy. It's not alternative, it's just therapy. It's just
Speaker 3: that people are choosing this therapy, not that therapy. So
Speaker 3: it's not an either or, it's an and. And whatever
Speaker 3: you are choosing for you makes that right. But what
Speaker 3: happens a lot is that you know a lot of
Speaker 3: people when they get diagnosed down their friends and family,
Speaker 3: they just get in it like a little rowboat on
Speaker 3: the ocean, and they're not rowing, they're just floating around
Speaker 3: and letting whatever happens happens. I call them passive bystanders.
Speaker 3: I became an active participant in my care and so
Speaker 3: I started to how do I do that? So that's
Speaker 3: where serenity projects started. And it's now become down to
Speaker 3: a lot of just these small practical ways of things
Speaker 3: and ways to think, like there is. It all comes
Speaker 3: from the serenity prayers. So the serenity prayer goes like this, God,
Speaker 3: grab me serenity to accept what I cannot change, the
Speaker 3: courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom
Speaker 3: to know the difference, so as we know, if God, Universe,
Speaker 3: source Dennis, whoever you believe in, use that's Dennis. There's
Speaker 3: a long there's a whole story behind that timeline here.
Speaker 3: But anyway, grab me serenity. Now. Serenity is a moment.
Speaker 3: It is not a It is not a list of
Speaker 3: things to do. It is a place so iedly people
Speaker 3: would sayd me, Oh, bron, You've just got to let
Speaker 3: it go, let things go. Well I would if I could.
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to, And now I realize it's
Speaker 3: just actually letting it be. Human beings let it be,
Speaker 3: which means that it doesn't go away, but you don't
Speaker 3: give it the energy you're consciously not. I'm going back
Speaker 3: to the cancer instrant as I do every other almost
Speaker 3: every other week on Tuesday, to get my next round
Speaker 3: of bloods. I'm letting it be. I know the results
Speaker 3: are there. I don't know what they are. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to worry about them. I'm not giving it energy.
Speaker 3: I'm not giving it conscious thought because I choose to
Speaker 3: be here and now, and that's a serenity moment.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: And the way that your book that's coming in, Yes
Speaker 3: it is, and where You're Finer.
Speaker 2: Is something that a guess that I had a couple
Speaker 2: episodes ago where we talked about the overwhelm of the
Speaker 2: crazy world we live in and just being where your
Speaker 2: feet are. And when I saw that, Taylor, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so.
Speaker 3: Exciting because it's it's my Because you know what, when
Speaker 3: when people are in if you're in a thick of
Speaker 3: a season of an illness or burnout or cancer and
Speaker 3: you're feeling those emotions, this is this is just a
Speaker 3: really practical thing you can do, and you may even
Speaker 3: do it twenty times a day because you don't just
Speaker 3: do it once it's done. Is that we want to
Speaker 3: name the emotion, Name what you're feeling. I had a
Speaker 3: bad day on Thursday because I had to get an
Speaker 3: infusion done and I was really frustrated and angry at
Speaker 3: myself because I didn't want to go. So I name
Speaker 3: the emotion and what that does It creates that little
Speaker 3: space between you and the emotion. So this is all
Speaker 3: evidence based, guys, and in that space we control the controllables.
Speaker 3: I pause, I reflect, and I respond. And the reason
Speaker 3: why I was having those feelings was because I felt
Speaker 3: here we go, I felt like a cancer patient, whereas
Speaker 3: every other day I don't feel like a cancer patient.
Speaker 3: And I was angry because I didn't want to be
Speaker 3: a cancer patient. And so then I worked through that.
Speaker 3: And the way we do that, especially when those overwhelms
Speaker 3: are coming, you literally look down and look down and
Speaker 3: be where your feet are, bring yourself back, because when
Speaker 3: you've got a lot going on, if you're in active
Speaker 3: treatment or if your post treatment, or you're caring for
Speaker 3: someone or it's your grandma or your sister, your babies,
Speaker 3: you want to be where your feet are. And when
Speaker 3: we do that, we slow everything down because that's the
Speaker 3: whole point. The physiological effect of living in that state
Speaker 3: all the time, and that's what it's like, because that's
Speaker 3: what it's like to live with. Uncertainty is so powerful.
Speaker 3: And you know, I breathe in for four and out
Speaker 3: for six because I'm waking up the vegas nerve. It
Speaker 3: goes both ways and in that space you will find
Speaker 3: a moment of serenity. And for me, when and that's
Speaker 3: what Serenity Project is all about, is to provide a
Speaker 3: community for people to connect and understand and learn because
Speaker 3: resilience is learnt. All of this is learned. It doesn't
Speaker 3: come naturally, certainly, it didn't come naturally to me, right,
Speaker 3: not at all.
Speaker 2: So no one teaches you how to go through these
Speaker 2: things and you already take the class if it was
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm no longer in that vortex of fear,
Speaker 3: knowing I have something that is, according to science, is
Speaker 3: coming back. I can either focus on that bit or
Speaker 3: I can focus on just walking around the top of
Speaker 3: that vortex of fear and I'll fall in, I'll get out,
Speaker 3: fall in, get out, And that's living with uncertainty. And
Speaker 3: I do that with the saying I know I will,
Speaker 3: I just don't know how, because I feel in humans,
Speaker 3: we all want the dots to be joined in front
Speaker 3: of us. We want to control. That's what I did. Anyway.
Speaker 3: You want to you want to join, you you want
Speaker 3: to see all the dots join, and you just want
Speaker 3: to follow the dots. Well, guess it's.
Speaker 2: Say it again. I know, I say that again.
Speaker 3: I know I will, I just don't know how. And
Speaker 3: it's Kerry China if you want to use it. It's
Speaker 3: by lady who's my dearest friend. She taught me that,
Speaker 3: and that's how you live and learn to live with uncertainty.
Speaker 3: I know I will. I'm on a path of healing.
Speaker 3: I'm never healed, and I'm on that path. I know
Speaker 3: I will. I don't know how because I don't have
Speaker 3: all the damn dots in a row. They don't join
Speaker 3: until they go out behind me. And that is the
Speaker 3: hardest part in business and life to learn. And you
Speaker 3: when you make peace and I live in this such
Speaker 3: a place that I have no emotion around it, I
Speaker 3: will go. I will not be concerned about my bloods
Speaker 3: until I walk into that cancer institute with zero anxiety.
Speaker 3: Swear to God, because I've taught myself that. Once I'm
Speaker 3: in that room and I get the results for the month,
Speaker 3: we'll deal with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to let the twenty nine days
Speaker 2: up to that point suffer.
Speaker 3: I will deal with it in the moment because life
Speaker 3: is so precious. If we keep ruminating on the past
Speaker 3: or projecting into the future, we are missing out of
Speaker 3: the most important part, which is here. So when you're
Speaker 3: feeling on yourself, don't just literally look down, be where
Speaker 3: your feet are, breathing for four out for six and
Speaker 3: just keep ritzy and repeating, and you might have to.
Speaker 3: On my bad days, I might do that thirty times,
Speaker 3: not a one off.
Speaker 2: People, and I like that you're you're doing you're doing that,
Speaker 2: But I and I like that you're you're you're naming
Speaker 2: what's happening. You're not doing it to deny what's happening.
Speaker 2: You're in it. And you're like, I'm frustrated. And even
Speaker 2: just when you said that, I don't like going to
Speaker 2: there because I feel like a cancer patient and I
Speaker 2: don't want to be that. And that awareness is so
Speaker 2: powerful because it doesn't hold as much power in the
Speaker 2: light that it does in the darkness.
Speaker 3: And it's all about the light because in my weird way,
Speaker 3: I believe cancer goes in the dark and not everyone.
Speaker 3: You know, like, I don't blame any like I don't
Speaker 3: even bother look at why why why White never do
Speaker 3: any of that? You know what it is? Bad shit
Speaker 3: happens to good people, full stop. That's it. That's as
Speaker 3: much energy as I give why someone got a diagnosis.
Speaker 3: And when you.
Speaker 2: When you have a full step of it at a
Speaker 2: sentence and you have a period, do you double space
Speaker 2: In Australia.
Speaker 3: I do I do just so you know, Thank you.
Speaker 3: I did comment on your post about that I am
Speaker 3: absolutely a double space.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Please kick you out for all the millennials and gen zus,
Speaker 3: would you please correct Yeah, And it's.
Speaker 2: Like you guys don't know what it's like when we
Speaker 2: had to take taping classes and we were you know, corrected. Well.
Speaker 3: I did take typing classes because that's how I got
Speaker 3: out of nursing to go to marketing. I had to
Speaker 3: learn to time sixty words a minute. And it was
Speaker 3: on an old Yeah you was doing something, jumped over
Speaker 3: to something something.
Speaker 2: Well, my goodness, friend, I have missed you. I love
Speaker 2: you so much. I want to come to Australia so bad,
Speaker 2: but it's so far away.
Speaker 3: I need to visit. Listen if I can get on
Speaker 3: those planes, so can you?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: You go via Japan, Go via Japan.
Speaker 2: It's really easy.
Speaker 3: You need Chicago, Chicago, Anita, Anita to Sydney. Sweet, come on, I.
Speaker 2: Can sleep over you. I know you have a lot
Speaker 2: of bedrooms since you have fighting, you come here.
Speaker 3: I've got a beautiful five acres to come and enjoy this.
Speaker 3: It's I don't know whether this it's definite. The serenity
Speaker 3: here is incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. Okay, well, maybe we'll do an
Speaker 2: episode out there together. You never know, everybody, Please, I
Speaker 2: really hope that this resonated with you and if you
Speaker 2: are struggling with anything in life, whether it's cancer or
Speaker 2: just dealing with aging parents and life and work and
Speaker 2: just adulting in general. Kids, just the world that we
Speaker 2: live in right now, looking down at your feet and
Speaker 2: being where you are is wisdom. Because I can't control anything.
Speaker 2: I can barely control what's right here, let alone the.
Speaker 3: Hair and your eldebun. Oh my god, it did a
Speaker 3: good job.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh things. I even put on cute earrings
Speaker 2: just for you.
Speaker 3: It did. I miss having hair.
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's coming.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. This is it. I'm stuck with you.
Speaker 3: This is it. This is it, guys. But it's better
Speaker 3: than being bold. Hallelujah. So you know there you go.
Speaker 2: Well, this way you can see your cue glasses in
Speaker 2: your beautiful face.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Let's tell your happy I said hi, and I love him,
Speaker 2: and we will include all of Bron's information for you all.
Speaker 2: I would love to have her back, so I'm sure
Speaker 2: we will do something together again. But thank you, bron
Speaker 2: Blessings to you and I can't wait until I can
Speaker 2: hug you in person again.
Speaker 3: Thank you, darling, thank you for having me, and thank
Speaker 3: you to the listeners. Just insert your own adversity, take
Speaker 3: out the way cancer and it's just as relevant for you.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it all right, everybody. We'll see you
Speaker 2: on the next episode. Thank you so much.
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