WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:04.599 Welcome to the Funny Kind with Erica Gummeny, bringing heart, 2 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:09.439 humor and hope to everyday life. Laughter and love really 3 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:12.400 do make a difference, and Erica's here to prove it. 4 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:16.600 Part deep Dive, part stand Up for the Soul, this 5 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:20.079 show blends humor, heart and real talk to help you 6 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.399 stop believing the lies that hold you back. Whether she's 7 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:27.440 flying solo or chatting with guests, Erica brings her signature 8 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:32.359 mix of authenticity, wit and wisdom, reminding you that growth 9 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:36.359 doesn't have to be so serious. So pull up a chair, exhale, 10 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.159 and get ready to laugh, reflect, and reconnect with the 11 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:44.840 extraordinary human you already are. Because this is the Funny 12 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.880 Kind where humor meets healing and inspiration meets action. 13 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.039 Next episode, you are in for a treat. I can 14 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.840 I cannot promise that we will stay on task, but 15 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:03.759 I can promise you that you will be inspired, and 16 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.560 you will laugh and you might cry. But let me 17 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:11.120 just say this is our first international guest here on 18 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:17.120 the phone. O so Bron Watson from the land of Australia. 19 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:18.920 Welcome to the Funny Kind. 20 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:22.680 Oh look, thank you for having me, my darling friend. 21 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:24.239 It's just fabulous to be here. 22 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.120 Oh my goodness. I just want you to tell me 23 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.480 a story, a long story, and I just sit there 24 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.200 and just listen to talk to me. That's all I want. 25 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.799 Once upon a time in a far away land. 26 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:38.519 Love it, Love it. 27 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:40.599 I used to read to my children every day. But anyway, 28 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:41.799 let's stick to the program. 29 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:46.640 We're already doing it, okay, So let me introduce Bron. 30 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.959 We are going to have a really good conversation today. 31 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.359 But let me just tell you a little bit about 32 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.359 this wonderful woman that you have looking at you in 33 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:58.319 this moment. Hopefully or you'll be listening to her voice 34 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.400 either way. So I'm going to read this amazing bio 35 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.560 because I don't want to miss a bit. Bron Watson 36 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:09.840 is a nurse, educator, entrepreneur and founder of the Social 37 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.479 Coach and the Serenity Project, which we're going to talk 38 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.120 a lot about today, with decades of experience as a 39 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:18.840 registered nurse and educator. And she's so young, so I 40 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.919 don't know how she's had decades of experience. Maybe rules 41 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:26.840 are different in Australia. Bron has been drawn to spaces 42 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:31.240 where care, communication and connection matter, so obviously we were 43 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:34.960 drawn to each other in that way. In twenty twelve, 44 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:41.199 Bron Brown Brown Bru founded her first business, empowering business 45 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:46.000 owners to share their voice online with authenticity and purpose. 46 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:49.840 Over the past decade, her work has supported thousands of 47 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.639 people to show up in life, in life and business 48 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.800 with intention and impact. So that is who Braun is 49 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.919 when she shows up. So of course it would be 50 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.400 in her nature to help other people do what she 51 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:08.280 has done, So it's awesome. Bron's journey took a profound 52 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:11.080 shift in twenty seventeen when she was diagnosed with breast 53 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:15.599 cancer and then five years later she received a second 54 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:21.960 diagnosis and incurable blood cancer. So these experiences deepened her 55 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:26.199 belief that healing isn't just physical, it's emotional, spiritual, and 56 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:30.120 deeply personal. And this is my favorite part is rather 57 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:35.479 than being defined by her diagnosis, Broun created this Serenity 58 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:40.719 Project to offer others what she wished she had, which 59 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:43.919 is the space where science meets soul with evidence and 60 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.599 perspective and what she calls the third space, a place 61 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:52.120 to reconnect with yourself, to navigate uncertainty with compassion and 62 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.919 find serenity in the midst of it all. So thanks 63 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.080 for letting me read through that because it was so 64 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:01.479 well written and it is so beautiful, and I love 65 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.520 that you are here with us today where we're going 66 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:07.560 to kind of talk a little bit about what we're 67 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.919 what I'm doing and what you're doing, and like the 68 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:14.960 perfect synergy may that word, but synergy of what we're doing. 69 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.839 So in Journey from the Ashes, oh look, I just 70 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:19.680 happen to have a copywriter. 71 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:24.000 I have a copy too, might I add? I do? 72 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:26.680 I love it? Thank you very much. 73 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.439 And so this every month has a theme, and this 74 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:36.560 month's theme is repurposed. So Journey from the Ashes is 75 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:39.639 learning to let go of the lies that are holding 76 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:44.040 you back, stories you're telling yourself, and repurposed for me 77 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.839 was like, no matter what, pardon my language, shit has 78 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:52.800 happened to you. It is happening to you. It doesn't 79 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.639 define you. And not to say that you want to 80 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.600 put lipstick on a pig or try to have this 81 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.519 pressure of making purpose out of it, but there can 82 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.639 be a repurpose in your life. So I thought, what 83 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.560 a perfect month to have this wonderful woman with us 84 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:11.079 here today. 85 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:16.439 So thank you, thank you, thank you. And now that 86 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:20.959 I realize that's the theme, of course right, because makes 87 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:21.879 complete sense. 88 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:27.079 I know it's so cool. So tell us a little 89 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.839 bit more like when you think about that, you know, 90 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:32.839 the journey that I mentioned just in a little bit 91 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.720 in your bio and kind of where you're at with 92 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.839 this serenity project and the repurposing that's kind of happening 93 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:42.079 in your life. Tell us, tell us what you what 94 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:43.000 you think about all that? 95 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:47.920 Well, you know when you when you hear a bio 96 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:51.079 read out and you're thinking, oh, I wonder who that is, 97 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:53.439 Like what did I do all those things? And it's 98 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.319 it's like this long bio. I'm thinking, oh my god, 99 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:59.639 there's so much to say and and I think that's 100 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:03.720 so much out there is And I think that the 101 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:09.360 biggest thing to pook some context for your audience is 102 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:12.120 around the fact that you know, I grew up as 103 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.000 the good girl. I'm the one who did nursing. I'm 104 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.639 the one who helped everybody. I was always the one 105 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:20.759 first up at anybody's house to how can I help you? 106 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:21.879 In the kitchen? Can I help? 107 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:22.360 Can I help? 108 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:26.360 And you know, I would see other people just sitting 109 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.959 back and relaxing, and I think what they want to help? 110 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:33.040 So I was the one jumping around helping everybody, anyone 111 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:33.680 who needed up. 112 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:33.959 I was. 113 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.399 I was the girl at school that people would come 114 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.680 to talk and ask and go through their problems. And 115 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.040 I think that maybe that's part of being a listener. 116 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:45.839 Maybe I don't know anyway, So moving through all of 117 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:49.240 the then, of course having five sons, five boys. 118 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.959 Again, and you are I mean that could be. 119 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.079 I'm still upright and I'm not an alcoholic, so it's 120 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:58.480 you know, go me. But you know it used to 121 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.600 take me fifteen minutes just to get in the car. 122 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:08.720 You try getting five kids in the car. Shoes, bags, hats, 123 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:11.680 Why have you got two different shoes on? 124 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:11.879 Like? 125 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:13.839 Where are your shoes? I threw them on the riff 126 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:20.000 at school? This, no lie, why would you throw your shoes? Anyway, 127 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.240 I digress. But moving through all of that, give give, Give, Give, Give, 128 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:28.240 which I as who I am. And it's not till 129 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.560 you know when I hear the word repurpose. It wasn't 130 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:35.839 my choice. I didn't realize I needed this lesson, but 131 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.360 I'm so grateful for it. So what it became was 132 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:46.120 through the businesses again, helping everybody, and at times I 133 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.279 would I would be more vested in someone's business than 134 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.120 they were. And that's during and it was the it 135 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.680 was a highlight in those earlier years as a mentor 136 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.199 that I pulled back one hang on a minute, you know, 137 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.399 you know, I take take no credit and take no blame. 138 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:04.199 So I had to learn that because I just wanted 139 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:07.199 someone to succeed. And I could see it because my 140 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.040 top strength in life is strategic. So here I am. 141 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.360 I can see what they've got to do. I can 142 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.720 see where it's going to go. They can't. But I 143 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.920 would get too vested, always coming back to give, give, give, 144 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:25.160 and it's not till you literally can't anymore. That after 145 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:28.560 the second diagnosis, which that was a shocker, so I'd 146 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:30.839 already done what I thought was all the work. I'd 147 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:35.600 been given the five year clearance, bless and release, you're healed, off, 148 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.919 you go ron that I was on the floor and 149 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.519 there was nothing left. There was nothing left, and I 150 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:48.039 just and I was facing chemotherapy again, and I'm facing 151 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.480 a stem cell transplant, which is where they take your 152 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:53.159 baby stem cells out with a massive, big line in 153 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.000 your neck. Then they give them back to you and 154 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.120 then you're in hospital for you up, very very sick. 155 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:03.080 They It's a very, very significant thing to go through. 156 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.480 And it was at that time that I would sit 157 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.600 and think there was nothing left. I could no longer 158 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.120 put on my mask of helping, I could no longer 159 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:15.440 put on my mask of hey guys, everything's fine, it's 160 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:19.960 all great. And that is where the repurposing began, because 161 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.120 I learnt the lesson that self care was not. I 162 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.679 used to think it was a luxury. Oh where the 163 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.279 heck did that come from? Okay, how did I believe? 164 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.120 And I don't even know if I believed that? It 165 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:33.080 was just there. 166 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.240 And even if we're across the globe, you know what 167 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.879 I mean, Like our cultures are different, we've grown up 168 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:44.279 in different places, our languages are different, and yet we 169 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:50.279 still have these same norms. It's not interesting, yep. 170 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.279 And and it was just like I look and I think, 171 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.360 you know, bron you're an educated woman. How did you 172 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.960 miss that memo? What? 173 00:09:59.519 --> 00:09:59.679 Well? 174 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.159 And a lot of it came, honestly, a lot of 175 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.200 that came from online be remembering I've got a dual 176 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.480 career in marketing and nursing and then in the digital space. 177 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.519 It's portrayed to be when you're successful. Back in the 178 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.320 last ten years was to hustle, hustle health. Thank goodness, 179 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.799 well we're starting to change it, right, so but hustle, hustle, hustle, 180 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.279 you got it. And that was what I call being relentless. 181 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:29.799 I was on a relentless quest to succeed. And I succeeded, 182 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.480 but it came in a massive cost. And it wasn't 183 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.440 till the point where I could no longer literally be 184 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:41.879 bron ron was you know, I literally call it the 185 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:44.080 old bron It's almost like it, you know. And when 186 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.279 you have a stem cell transplant, they call it a rebirths. 187 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:49.240 I don't like it. They call it mar it's my 188 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:54.879 rebirth first birthday. But I have respect for those in 189 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.360 that space because it's the celebration that they're still on 190 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:00.240 this planet. So let's be thankful for the technology. But 191 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.960 it's not till for me. It wasn't till I couldn't 192 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.039 did I actually slow down enough and start listening to 193 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:12.480 my inner voice, listening to insert whoever you believe in God, 194 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:16.720 higher purpose, whatever, that I started to listen and go, 195 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:19.799 this is way bigger than me. I can't get out 196 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.720 of this one, cannot fix this one. 197 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:31.600 Yeah, wow, And how I think like now that your 198 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:36.840 you're steps ahead from when that first moment happened. How 199 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:42.279 did how did everybody react when when you began this 200 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:47.279 repurposing of who you were? And I can imagine if 201 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:50.360 I have one of you in my life, I'd probably 202 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.320 be pretty reliant on you to help me through everything 203 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.519 I needed. You know, like, well did you have like 204 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:00.399 cereal out there where there was this little character Makey. 205 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.679 It was like Mikey a leader, Mikey, he'll do anything. 206 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.320 It was like mich He'll do it. Yeah. 207 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:08.960 Well, after around the first diagnosis, would actually been through 208 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:12.559 quite a significant challenge with one of our boys. And 209 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.960 at the time of the cancer, the closest group of 210 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.600 friends I had, they have that they've been gone for 211 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.679 a long time now. So people come for seasons and 212 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:26.000 I grieved for probably at least a couple of years, 213 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:28.799 like where were my friends when I needed them? They 214 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:33.919 were gone? And you know, people, I have no expectation 215 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:38.200 of how someone will or will not handle when you 216 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:40.480 say to someone you have an incurable diagnos Some people 217 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:43.120 they just can't handle it. And I look at them 218 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.799 and go, guys, I'm not dying, I'm not dead. I'm 219 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.200 absolutely sweet do I look sweet? I am sweet, And 220 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.679 so with my children. What happened was I was no 221 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:57.879 longer sugarcoating life, so I'd stopped. I'd already started doing 222 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:02.799 that already, but I would cry this time, whereas before 223 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.799 the first diagnosis I was I would say, you know, 224 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:07.360 you don't know how strong you are until you have 225 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:10.679 no choice, which is true, but I'd wear it like 226 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:15.080 a badge of honor, versus saying it you don't know 227 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.919 how strong you are until you have no choice, but vulnerability, 228 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.120 being vulnerable to yourself, Because then I started to be 229 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.759 true for me. I then, of course became starting to 230 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.759 be true. I have amazing relationships with all my boys, 231 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:35.919 and I now talk them through. I will cry in 232 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.080 front of I sweeze to have the swear jar in 233 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.559 our house for the f work to see, you know, 234 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:45.320 and I had a twenty five dollar fee. So once 235 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.120 the second diagnosis came down, well I might as well 236 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.399 just pop the phone in the jar, just leave it 237 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.480 there like an f poss machine. And so the kids 238 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.240 started to see more the real Bron because Bron and 239 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.960 it's the best thing I've ever done for myself and 240 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:07.279 of course my children and my family around me and 241 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.720 and I have no expectation that if people can't handle it, 242 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:12.879 that's okay, that's okay. I love I love them through it. 243 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:17.399 I have compassion. But my encouragement for those who are listening, 244 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.759 who have friends and family going through and living through cancer, 245 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:25.919 just acknowledge them. Just acknowledge the situation. You can't fix it. 246 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:29.639 Remember I was misusfix it. We will were a lot 247 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:31.480 of us are missus fix it. So when you all 248 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.440 mister fix it, when you can't fix things, just acknowledge 249 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.200 them and love them through it. 250 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:41.559 Don't try. I can't try to make them feel better. 251 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:44.120 Or no, you don't need to make them feel better. 252 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.039 And you don't need to tell them that Aunt Joan 253 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.039 she had multimal mile I am and she's still alive. 254 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:52.360 Or my aunt Beth and Evil she died, well, thank 255 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.639 you for that. Don't worry about it and that because 256 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.559 that's your way of coping because you don't know what 257 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.720 to say, so you say something. Don't say anything other 258 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.919 than oh my god, that sucks. Are you okay? How 259 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.759 can I support you? Not give me a call if 260 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.360 you need anything. They're not gonna call. No one's gonna call. 261 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.039 How can I support you. What's your favorite dinner? You 262 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:20.320 like that pizza shop? Here an anonymous voucher in the mailbox. 263 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:25.200 Yes. I remember when my husband had cancer and we 264 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:28.759 had somebody that would come over and I noticed, like 265 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:32.120 our bushes were trimmed in our lawn was mode and 266 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:34.840 I was like, who who did that? And they came 267 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:38.440 over and it was It really changed me to see 268 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:43.600 that versus doing it for pomp and circumstance. And yep, 269 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:46.960 And I know I struggle. I try really hard to 270 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.679 sit in the muck with people and not try to 271 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.960 clean it up. But I was just having coffee with 272 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:56.639 a friend the other day and I found myself, you 273 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.039 know how people are like I have cancer or and 274 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.919 there's and I was like, well you had, and I 275 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:04.639 felt that I needed a correct her and I was 276 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.200 like I need to reach out to apologize for that 277 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.440 because that was not my What did they say that for? 278 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:10.200 I was trying to be. 279 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:14.519 You know, well you and you want to be positive, right, 280 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:16.960 Oh god, it's over, Thank god, Ron, you must be 281 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:20.559 so happy. It's all like, it's not over. It's never over. 282 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.320 Even if you're ten years out, you're still like with 283 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.840 the breastcancer, I my ease out. It's not over. I'm 284 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.639 still taking a tablet. I still have annual scans m hm. 285 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:33.360 And every time you have a car for anything that yeah, yep. 286 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.799 Especially for my alignment with bones and things. Right. So 287 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:39.919 it's just to me that acknowledgment is so important to 288 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:44.559 support that person however they want to go through their journey. 289 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.000 Yeah is yeah, but it's you know, I'm so but 290 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:50.799 this is going to sound kind of weird. I'm so 291 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:53.960 grateful for what I've learned because now my cup is 292 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.879 full every day, well up and down, up and down, 293 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.480 but it's never empty. Whereas before I was living on 294 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:00.000 energy from two years in advance. 295 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:03.360 Say more about that. 296 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:10.599 Because I was relentless. I'm now resilient and I thought 297 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.480 I was resilient, and I was resilient, but I wasn't 298 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:18.200 resilient from a place of supporting myself first. 299 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:22.319 And maybe for serenity to kind of tie back into 300 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:23.920 what you're doing, it is serenity. 301 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:27.640 It is serenity. And they're called serenity moments because you 302 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.279 can't you know, like you can't just sit there and 303 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:32.359 you know, it's not loa rambos and lollipops all day 304 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:34.759 and meditating and journaling. That's not how it works, right, 305 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:35.400 And I. 306 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:38.519 Don't like it when people say, you know, God only 307 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.359 gives you what you can handle or be able to have. 308 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:44.759 That to me, fight fight, answer, like you have some 309 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.519 power to fight and win, and then if you don't, 310 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:50.599 you lose, like you've lot your a loser. 311 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:55.640 Like I did have someone say it's yeah, I did 312 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.319 have someone say to me it was you know, this 313 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:01.880 is God's will? What really really believe that? Okay, that's 314 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:06.480 great for you. For me, absolutely not. God didn't chooses. 315 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:10.480 But God is with me, yeah, to help me learn 316 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:14.279 through the grief and the gratitude because they co exist. 317 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.880 I really like, I really like a lot of the 318 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:19.799 wording that you have, and well I love everything that 319 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.039 you do. And just as a little quick break, and 320 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.960 we we're probably gonna go over a little bit, but 321 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:27.039 I can't help it. But Bron and I met here 322 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:30.359 in Wisconsin. She came all the way from Australia for 323 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.960 a speaking event that we both did and fell in 324 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.079 love instantly. And you might we didn't even talk about 325 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:39.720 why we're calling this Elder Buns. No, Okay, so you 326 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:40.319 noticed that I have. 327 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:42.960 In Australia we didn't even know what elder buns are, 328 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:45.440 but we just made. 329 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:48.160 It brown and Erica copyright trademark, don't steal it. So 330 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.759 I girls that put their hair in a bun look 331 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:53.359 so cute, and it's this messy bun me I look 332 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.240 like a ballerina. I can't ever do it right, so 333 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:58.640 I call it my elder bun. And Bron thought it 334 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:02.160 was hilarious, old bunch joking around and said that we're 335 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:06.079 elder buns. And I of course loved Bron immediately because 336 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:09.480 of her accent. I loved her soul and her spirit. 337 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:13.880 I love her husband like they are just effervescent humans. 338 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:18.799 People just flop to them. And I love making her laugh. 339 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:23.960 And I sent we have a picture of me of 340 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:28.319 Bron laughing, and it's my favorite picture. So we'll pop 341 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:31.079 it up so you can see it because I just 342 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:31.880 love her so much. 343 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.960 Is it a good one? I haven't seen it. People 344 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:36.480 just saying, yes, you have. 345 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:37.160 I sent it to you. 346 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.319 My post, Brian, I wouldn't have a clue, right. 347 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.680 I know. I know it's like, oh okay, so let's 348 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:50.920 let's let's get to what you're because the whole repurposing 349 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:53.160 thing I don't ever want to say, like, you know, 350 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.920 there's a pressure to be like this terrible thing happens 351 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:57.400 and I have to make purpose out of it. 352 00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:58.759 I agree completely. 353 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:04.079 That's and real complaining here. So tell us, tell us 354 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:07.200 about Serenity Project and what what how you can maybe 355 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.279 connect that to repurposing or whatever you want to say 356 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:13.039 that people can you know, I have friends who are 357 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:15.519 who are I know will resonate with the work that 358 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:17.160 you're doing. So tell us what you want to tell 359 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:20.000 us and we'll have links everything. 360 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.440 And oh thank you dolly. So it all came about 361 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:26.839 because I am the Serenity Project, just so you know. 362 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.680 So with all of the things that has happened over 363 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.519 the years, and when you are brought to not on 364 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:35.960 your knees, when you are flat on the floorboards and 365 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:43.400 you have nothing left, nothing left, and there's only one 366 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:45.160 place you can go for me, and that was to 367 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.000 go inwards. And so I started to do some work 368 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:54.039 on myself around energy and forgiveness and compassion. And so 369 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:59.440 when it comes to living through cancer, you get given 370 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:05.559 a treat Meant book and that's in Australia where I live. 371 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:08.759 There's no integrative medicine. You've got to go find it. 372 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:12.359 And I'm educated. I'm looking, I'm finding, I'm looking at 373 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:16.160 all the things, and it's very fragmented, and which means 374 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.039 you've got medicine. I love it when people go, you know, 375 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:23.319 alternative therapy. It's not alternative, it's just therapy. It's just 376 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:26.799 that people are choosing this therapy, not that therapy. So 377 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:31.319 it's not an either or, it's an and. And whatever 378 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:34.799 you are choosing for you makes that right. But what 379 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.839 happens a lot is that you know a lot of 380 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:40.200 people when they get diagnosed down their friends and family, 381 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:41.799 they just get in it like a little rowboat on 382 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.240 the ocean, and they're not rowing, they're just floating around 383 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:49.720 and letting whatever happens happens. I call them passive bystanders. 384 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.519 I became an active participant in my care and so 385 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:58.400 I started to how do I do that? So that's 386 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:03.200 where serenity projects started. And it's now become down to 387 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.559 a lot of just these small practical ways of things 388 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.799 and ways to think, like there is. It all comes 389 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.519 from the serenity prayers. So the serenity prayer goes like this, God, 390 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.640 grab me serenity to accept what I cannot change, the 391 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:21.480 courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom 392 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:25.359 to know the difference, so as we know, if God, Universe, 393 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:30.160 source Dennis, whoever you believe in, use that's Dennis. There's 394 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.920 a long there's a whole story behind that timeline here. 395 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:37.799 But anyway, grab me serenity. Now. Serenity is a moment. 396 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:39.519 It is not a It is not a list of 397 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:42.839 things to do. It is a place so iedly people 398 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:44.319 would sayd me, Oh, bron, You've just got to let 399 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:46.680 it go, let things go. Well I would if I could. 400 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:49.880 I didn't know how to, And now I realize it's 401 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:56.319