Speaker 1: Has this ever happened to you? You come into some
Speaker 1: money and.
Speaker 2: Then almost no answer.
Speaker 1: Immediately, no, almost instantly, like within a week or two,
Speaker 1: you get a bill for something that is that exact amount.
Speaker 2: So I I won our fantasy baseball league. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: with this money? Buy a new driver and a new
Speaker 2: three wind of the offseason, and you know what I
Speaker 2: needed three weeks later, new breaks and rotors.
Speaker 1: When I won our fantasy football league, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: twelve hundred bucks. What am I gonna do with this
Speaker 1: within a week four new tires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exactly what you're talking about. It's like, ah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use this free money that like I didn't
Speaker 2: expect to have on something fun. And then something inevitably
Speaker 2: pops up.
Speaker 1: I had something real nice happened to me with some
Speaker 1: money was coming my way, and I'm like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is gonna pay for Christmas. This is gonna be great.
Speaker 1: And then I get a bill at the top this
Speaker 1: week for that exact amount of something I was not expecting.
Speaker 2: Go like, like, Thanos, life is inevitable, or.
Speaker 1: Do you think someone is keeping an eye on us?
Speaker 1: And just taking our money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pushing the button to fuck with you every time?
Speaker 1: One good, three Yeah, jobs three, King of Queen Marl Street, entertaining.
Speaker 2: Time go and I am mac and.
Speaker 1: Make way, make Way Macona. It's time you do. The
Speaker 1: Village of Montago is a better song than what we got.
Speaker 2: MA wanted to uh, I would say, and this is no. Oh,
Speaker 2: I guess it has to be slight against this movie.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say no, slight against Moana two because
Speaker 2: Mowana is a forty dog movie.
Speaker 1: Moana one's great, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: You could argue it's the best movie Disney made in
Speaker 2: like twenty five years. There's three or four songs in
Speaker 2: Mowana that are very very good, all time good, extremely memorable.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure Mawana two has a single.
Speaker 1: I know two of them were nominated for Oscars. Correct
Speaker 1: in Mowana one?
Speaker 2: Oh, good question that I don't know.
Speaker 1: This one beyond Like, I think the Maui song in
Speaker 1: mo Wana two is kind of fun.
Speaker 2: It's a good toe tapper.
Speaker 1: But I also can't think of what that beat is
Speaker 1: to tap my toe right now.
Speaker 2: Totally agree.
Speaker 1: In the moment, though, I was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: kind of good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Maana two had a couple couple toe tappers.
Speaker 2: It was a relatively fun movie, you know, but it
Speaker 2: was standing up against Mowana. This is the last Disney movie.
Speaker 2: There's been a couple, I guess, so Incredibles two had
Speaker 2: a real high poll to try to get back to
Speaker 2: all of the toy story movies. But this is the
Speaker 2: first went in a while that we're doing like a
Speaker 2: Disney sequel that is coming off of like a forty
Speaker 2: doc movie. And on top of it, this was originally
Speaker 2: conceived as a television series, a Disney Plus series, So
Speaker 2: are there thing There are some things that happened along
Speaker 2: the way that didn't really help it. And it's also
Speaker 2: eight years later, which I know animation takes a long time,
Speaker 2: but if they really wanted to make the sequel, they
Speaker 2: would have made it five years ago, four years ago.
Speaker 2: So it is what it is today. Gou we're discussing
Speaker 2: Moana too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Disney is just in its cycle of sequels,
Speaker 1: and Mowana, while it did very good at the beginning
Speaker 1: when it came out, took on a whole new life
Speaker 1: during the pandemic with a bunch of kids stuck in
Speaker 1: their house. Disney plus was he plays a huge part
Speaker 1: in how popular Mowana is, so they said, oh, we
Speaker 1: have this gold mine. And the movie made a ton
Speaker 1: of money in its opening weekend. But it's the same
Speaker 1: as the first one. It's very similar but worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mowana instant classic, Mowana two instantly forgettable.
Speaker 1: And that's it's.
Speaker 2: Just the facts of it. And also for you and
Speaker 2: I entering into our adult life and you your father
Speaker 2: and uncle life, me just uncle life so far. I
Speaker 2: have a seven year old niece, so one of the
Speaker 2: first movies she ever saw and remembered was Mowana, and she,
Speaker 2: you know, has somewhat of an ethic background too, dark hair,
Speaker 2: that she identified with the character a lot. I have
Speaker 2: heard I've watched Moana a million times. I've heard her
Speaker 2: sing Mohana songs a million times. So Moana also has
Speaker 2: like a special place in my heart. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's a movie like that for all sorts of folks
Speaker 2: out there. But that's why I think you and I
Speaker 2: particularly love Malanas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my son is pack Island, so yeah.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go goose. Speaking of the
Speaker 2: money that this movie made opening weekend, so the three
Speaker 2: day weekend not including the extra two, so it's a
Speaker 2: it's a little off, makes almost one hundred and forty million,
Speaker 2: massive opening, and it's five day Thanksgiving opening two hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty five million. That set the record for Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: weekend and for a world wide five day it made
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty six million. That is a record
Speaker 2: for an animated movie on a five day open. That
Speaker 2: is a massive, massive opening. And comparatively, Goo, the first
Speaker 2: one opened to fifty six point six million opening weekend,
Speaker 2: which is kind of wild. But also in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: Disney they had had Frozen, but we were in a
Speaker 2: good ten twelve year period where they didn't have much
Speaker 2: that were smash hits.
Speaker 1: Right because it didn't Tangled lost money at the beginning.
Speaker 2: They lost money in a couple couple of movies in
Speaker 2: those two in the two thousands.
Speaker 1: But Tangled was well regarded. Frozen had picked up a
Speaker 1: whole new audience. It's just that Mowana. I think people
Speaker 1: looked at it as like, oh, I don't know what
Speaker 1: this character is, and they didn't flosh in the theater
Speaker 1: as opposed to now everyone knows who Mowana is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it didn't. It wasn't. It wasn't as
Speaker 2: easy to sell.
Speaker 1: Which doesn't bode well for Disney not making more sequels.
Speaker 2: Well, I know it didn't make that much money, and it
Speaker 2: only only ended up making two hundred and forty nine
Speaker 2: million domestically. I say only that's compared to like Disney
Speaker 2: movies and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I could fill a bath tub with that money, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that much.
Speaker 2: This movie is going to pass that domestically this week probably,
Speaker 2: So that's that's amazing.
Speaker 1: And I think it makes a billion, passes a billion.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think, I think, uh so, the first one
Speaker 2: made six hundred and forty three million worldwide and its
Speaker 2: whole run, I think this is probably doubles that it
Speaker 2: probably I think it gets to like one point two billion.
Speaker 2: And the all time record holder GOO for animated movies
Speaker 2: is Inside Out too, both domestically and worldwide.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that this should pass Inside Out
Speaker 1: to based off quality, but then I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: they're kind of the same.
Speaker 2: I would say this greater than, but you're you're not
Speaker 2: much great operate in a similar window. So Inside Inside
Speaker 2: Out two did beat Mawana in the three day by
Speaker 2: fourteen million for almost fifteen million actually, so that doesn't
Speaker 2: bow well for majana passing inside out to domestically it
Speaker 2: got the almost six hundred and fifty three million. Now,
Speaker 2: it could get there. It could get there, and then
Speaker 2: worldwide it was just under one point seven billion. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna that is a mass it's
Speaker 2: a lot of money.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: That's eighth all time. The domestic number is eleventh all time.
Speaker 2: I think it'll sneak up into that top fifteen or so.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna get all the way there,
Speaker 2: but I do think this has a pretty good runway
Speaker 2: these next few weeks for this audio.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you have Sonic, you have Mufasa,
Speaker 1: and you have nosferatunas Faratu is gonna steal a lot
Speaker 1: of this audience.
Speaker 2: Those are still two or three weeks away though, so
Speaker 2: you still have a full month really to make the
Speaker 2: money here. So I think it's definitely gonna get a billion,
Speaker 2: and then from there we'll see how high it climbs.
Speaker 1: Mac Let me ask you this. In the modern Disney era,
Speaker 1: you have the first Mawana as number one, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like pretty easily too. The first frozens pretty good,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's remotely I actually think in
Speaker 2: the modern Disney era and so like post the modern classics. Right,
Speaker 2: So where would you start that?
Speaker 1: So I would say right after they So Princess and
Speaker 1: the Frog was their last two d animated one.
Speaker 2: Was that O seven?
Speaker 1: That might have been A eight. I know that they
Speaker 1: had that Home on the Range movie with the cow
Speaker 1: voiced by Roseanne and that one bombed.
Speaker 2: So let's say Princess of the Frog is either the
Speaker 2: last one there or the first one in this one.
Speaker 2: And if you're so, you're if you're talking the last
Speaker 2: seventeen years, I think in Mawana is far and away
Speaker 2: the best movie they've made. It's not even.
Speaker 1: Closer specific to Disney, not talking Disney Pixar.
Speaker 2: Not talking Disney Pixar. But even if you did, this
Speaker 2: would still be the first. Milana would still be number
Speaker 2: one for me.
Speaker 1: I might agree with you if we're talking no, because
Speaker 1: like op is in there, Up's amazing.
Speaker 2: Up is amazing is up in that in that window? Okay,
Speaker 2: So you're right, I would have up above this, Wally.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have above it, but Wally's in the convers.
Speaker 1: Station, Coco's great.
Speaker 2: I overstepped my bounds there. That was a good way
Speaker 2: to rain.
Speaker 1: I think it would be in the handful of you
Speaker 1: would call classic movies.
Speaker 2: It would be to me it's it's maybe not a
Speaker 2: perfect movie, but it's a forty dogger. And there's only
Speaker 2: a couple of those that have been made in the
Speaker 2: last sixteen seventeen years from Disney, including Pixar.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if I'm looking at their big three,
Speaker 1: it'd be you know, I think Mowana. Then I like
Speaker 1: the story of Tangled better than Frozen, but the music
Speaker 1: of Frozen is better than Tangled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And ultimately, and why these become classics is the music.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why we're gonna have an issue
Speaker 2: with this movie in the long run. But why these
Speaker 2: Disney movies become classics is the earworms and the kids
Speaker 2: singing them and wanting to watch them all day long.
Speaker 2: And Tangle doesn't have that, Frozen does, Mowana does. I
Speaker 2: don't think this one's going.
Speaker 1: To And before you say goo, I thought you don't
Speaker 1: like musicals, live action, stage play musicals. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about a Disney movie. Yeah, it's not the sound.
Speaker 2: It's close, though not close.
Speaker 1: It's not the same.
Speaker 2: You just like cartoons. You're saying cartoons greater than people.
Speaker 1: If you're having music. Yeah, I think cartoons, especially when
Speaker 1: the animation is so beautiful and crisp. And I also, uh,
Speaker 1: who is the main actress here? Ali Carvalho Cavalo I
Speaker 1: think does a fantastic, amazing job in this movie.
Speaker 2: Great voice, both singing and speaking.
Speaker 1: I think she's the main reason why this movie floats.
Speaker 1: I think that her voice really gives life to this movie.
Speaker 2: No, she's phenomenal and she's amazing in the first one.
Speaker 2: And you can even tell so she's in her early
Speaker 2: twenties like she was in her teenage years when they
Speaker 2: did the first one. You could even tell her voices
Speaker 2: changed a little bit. But it works with the character
Speaker 2: because the character has been aged up a little bit too.
Speaker 2: She does an unbelievable job. Goo Mawana Tu is a
Speaker 2: PG animated event adventure comedy, family fantasy musical. I think
Speaker 2: the first one does all those things well. I think
Speaker 2: the second one tries to do all of those things
Speaker 2: and I don't think it necessarily fails. It just doesn't
Speaker 2: get close to the first one, so it looks worse
Speaker 2: than maybe it actually is. It's definitely a perception thing.
Speaker 2: Sub genres here go computer animation. I think about that
Speaker 2: little CGIs.
Speaker 1: We don't need all these subgenres.
Speaker 2: But we do get a sea adventure here, and you
Speaker 2: know how much.
Speaker 1: I'm a much love sea adventures.
Speaker 2: It's one of my top seventeen.
Speaker 1: Do you want Mawana to be your first mate on
Speaker 1: your boat when you eventually get that boat?
Speaker 2: Easy? I don't know how old she is there.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm saying to like, you know, help you
Speaker 1: out on the boat. I think she'd be a very
Speaker 1: good first mate.
Speaker 2: That's one way of translating.
Speaker 1: You can find the way.
Speaker 2: They have Monitu has a run time of one hundred minutes.
Speaker 2: I actually think it's more like ninety or eighty five.
Speaker 1: It's pretty brisk, but no, I thought it felt longer.
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, I thought they could have done with
Speaker 1: if they got rid of all the songs and it
Speaker 1: was just sixty minutes long. Might didn't better.
Speaker 2: Didn't want it to be musical at all.
Speaker 1: I like Disney music, but when they're done well, you're.
Speaker 2: Being contradictory here, So that's the thing.
Speaker 1: If I just done well, I am contradictory of everything
Speaker 1: I've ever said on Roddy te'z Goo.
Speaker 2: And this might speak to the difference between the first
Speaker 2: two sixty three percent from the critics eighty seven percent
Speaker 2: from the audience. So the audience is coming back and saying, yes,
Speaker 2: we like this. This is the characters we know and love,
Speaker 2: and additional characters that are pretty decent.
Speaker 1: Eighty seven is kind of low. We're looking for a
Speaker 1: modern day.
Speaker 2: Eighty nine percent audience score, But.
Speaker 1: That's back when the audience scores were a little more truthful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now they're out of control.
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. Ninety five percent from the critics
Speaker 2: on the first one, Goo universally loved on Metacritic for
Speaker 2: this one a fifty eight, one of the lower scores
Speaker 2: they've ever given to one of these Disney movies. The
Speaker 2: first one had an eighty one, one of the highest
Speaker 2: scores they've given, especially with the modern movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think that just echoes what we're saying here. And I
Speaker 2: do think because I came away Goo liking this movie,
Speaker 2: and I can't help escaping the thought that I feel
Speaker 2: like people are thinking less of this because the first
Speaker 2: one was so good, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 2: if in a vacuum, I actually think this movie's pretty decent,
Speaker 2: pretty good, But compared to the first one, it's definitely
Speaker 2: getting knocked down a couple pegs, probably in everyone's mind.
Speaker 1: I think the main question that everyone wants to know
Speaker 1: is if I bring my child there, will I be entertained? Actually,
Speaker 1: more importantly, will they be entertained? The answer to that
Speaker 1: is most likely yes, you might not be as entertained
Speaker 1: as you'd like to be.
Speaker 2: So I had a group of four kids sitting in
Speaker 2: front of me. They looked like they were all between
Speaker 2: maybe like eight and eleven, that range. They all seem
Speaker 2: to enjoy it pretty good. They weren't like talking during it,
Speaker 2: which I think is enough. You know, they're they're paying
Speaker 2: attention and they're gripped a little bit by the story.
Speaker 2: And that goes a long way when movie when kids
Speaker 2: are in movie theaters, because nothing's worse than anyone talking
Speaker 2: during during a movie.
Speaker 1: I want everyone's singing and on their phone.
Speaker 2: I think your child will be entertained for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And a big part of that coup is the visuals
Speaker 2: in this movie. Unbelievable, some of the best we've ever seen.
Speaker 2: And I had just rewatched the first Mowana too, noticeably brighter,
Speaker 2: noticeably crisper than the first movie, and I mean they
Speaker 2: should be it's eight years later, but sometimes that doesn't happen,
Speaker 2: so that is something to be said.
Speaker 1: You know what might have helped for the kids though,
Speaker 1: is more Maui, more soon true. I think kids like Maui.
Speaker 2: Yep, adventure happens pretty quick. Yeah and yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that in a second. This movie is
Speaker 2: written by Jared Bush, Dane LaDue Miller, and Beck Smith,
Speaker 2: pretty pretty relative unknowns, at least to me. Jared Bush
Speaker 2: has a writing credit on Zoutopia, the first Moana, and Encanto,
Speaker 2: so he's done pretty well for himself. In fact, upcoming
Speaker 2: he's doing the live action Moana and Zutopia two, so
Speaker 2: obviously Disney likes him, and I guess the record speaks
Speaker 2: for itself. Dane LaDue Miller strict television up until this,
Speaker 2: and that makes sense because this was originally slaved to
Speaker 2: be a television series. So I think they bring Dana
Speaker 2: Ladu Miller on, who's also one of the directors, because
Speaker 2: it was gonna be a television show.
Speaker 1: Is the live action Mowana movie gonna be a remake
Speaker 1: of the animated movie that we just got ten years ago?
Speaker 2: I believe so. I believe so.
Speaker 1: I don't want that at all.
Speaker 2: Nope, but we're gonna see it, aren't we.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but when they announced it, I
Speaker 1: thought maybe like they were gonna do a sequel with
Speaker 1: the characters. Is it the same woman playing Moana?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Actually, I know the rock is playing Maui.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Ali is playing Mowana. She might
Speaker 2: be a little too old for me. Yeah, to be
Speaker 2: honest with.
Speaker 1: You, that's why I would have taken a sequel with
Speaker 1: her playing an older Mowana.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, that could have worked, but it would be
Speaker 2: it would be weird. I guess it's weird either way.
Speaker 2: Uhcuso Dane Ladu Miller is all so uh a director
Speaker 2: on this movie, and I think they brought them in.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's what the gender is, but
Speaker 2: it really doesn't matter. They're also doing the upcoming upcoming
Speaker 2: Mowana live action movies, so I wonder if Disney brought
Speaker 2: them on for the live action. First of this. I
Speaker 2: don't really know how it all played out, but that's
Speaker 2: that's not the best.
Speaker 1: Does Disney kind of stink right now?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what they do, and you got to
Speaker 2: give them credit because they're constantly promoting people from the
Speaker 2: animation department sound apartment up into these roles. So you
Speaker 2: have to respect them for that because eventually they usually
Speaker 2: do find the right ones, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm saying more like it's all sequels and remakes.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's just movies in general.
Speaker 1: That's not like they're the main culprits though.
Speaker 2: Well, you have really popular characters.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do create new characters? Uh?
Speaker 2: The third and third writer on this movie is Beck Smith,
Speaker 2: who had a credit on Maleficent Mistress of Evil. That's
Speaker 2: the pretty much the only thing they've they've got, so
Speaker 2: I that's it's always a weird combination with these Disney
Speaker 2: animated movies, that's for sure. Uh. This movie is directed
Speaker 2: by David G. Derek Junior, one of the worst names
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. This is his first director.
Speaker 1: One of the mac and Awards this year worst.
Speaker 2: Name names of the David David G. Derek Jr. You
Speaker 2: get two first names and maybe the g's a first
Speaker 2: name too, so that's that's just a bad name.
Speaker 1: And that Derek is built with three rs. Too many rs.
Speaker 2: Derek, Uh this is this is.
Speaker 1: I notice he's saying, Derek, why are you saying that? Well,
Speaker 1: there's three rs.
Speaker 2: This is this name is.
Speaker 1: This is just a great flight of the concords.
Speaker 2: Is missed in this movie. Although well we'll Pep Behead.
Speaker 2: That's right, Jermaine, we'll talk about him in a few
Speaker 2: This is David G. Derek Juniors Junior's first directing credit.
Speaker 2: He was in the art department and a bunch of things,
Speaker 2: so one of those people promoted up upcoming. He's the
Speaker 2: storyboard artist for z Utopia too, So there you go
Speaker 2: for that. To another Actually, three first time directors on
Speaker 2: this Giu Jason Hand this is his first time director
Speaker 2: directing something. He's also comes from animation, so another promotion.
Speaker 1: In the get the job.
Speaker 2: Daniel Ludu Miller again. Uh so, first of all, I
Speaker 2: don't think there was really a world where this movie
Speaker 2: was going to be remotely as good as the first one.
Speaker 2: So recognizing that, I'm trying not to be too harsh.
Speaker 2: On top of that, give the first Mowana was penned
Speaker 2: and directed by the team that did Great Mouse, Detective,
Speaker 2: Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Hercules, Treasure Planet, Princess and The Frog.
Speaker 2: So his last two not so great, but those first four.
Speaker 1: Bangers, Princess and the Fraud did mean that was one
Speaker 1: of the movies that brought Disney back. Though.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: And Austin Planet Planet's actually a pretty dope movie.
Speaker 2: It's office, So that's that's that's a team that's had
Speaker 2: a wildly successful career. And the for the sequel you
Speaker 2: have first timers, so that matters as well.
Speaker 1: Out of those movies you have one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: you have six. Those are five swashbuckling movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and four all time animated movies like that. That's like,
Speaker 2: so again, I this movie didn't really stand a chance
Speaker 2: to being as good as the first one. And in
Speaker 2: addition to that, gup. The music here by Mark Mancina
Speaker 2: is good. It works within the movie. It's fun. However,
Speaker 2: it's just not as magical as the first movie. They
Speaker 2: really are missing that Linn Manuel touch. But it's not
Speaker 2: like this guy's new, Like this man's been working on movies.
Speaker 2: Our whole lives literally for thirty five years, and he
Speaker 2: worked on the first movie too. He composed a lot
Speaker 2: of the songs in the first movie, So that really
Speaker 2: just tells you that it really was Linn Manuel. And
Speaker 2: going back to twenty sixteen, no one knew who Lynn
Speaker 2: Manuel Miranda was. I'm sure Broadway fans did. We didn't
Speaker 2: know who he was. And Mowana is really the one
Speaker 2: that like turned him into a world wide stars. So
Speaker 2: I wonder if he wanted to make this. You know,
Speaker 2: he's we talked about this a week or two ago.
Speaker 2: He's doing the music for the upcoming mufass movie, So
Speaker 2: I wonder if they kind of pinch it hold him
Speaker 2: into that. But the songs in this are certainly missing
Speaker 2: his touch.
Speaker 1: The songs in this one compared to the first one.
Speaker 1: The first movie, every song felt like it was continuing
Speaker 1: the story or it was really it was furthering your
Speaker 1: knowledge of these characters. This movie, every song felt like
Speaker 1: someone stopped the story and said, hey, guys, we have
Speaker 1: to do a song here.
Speaker 2: It's been seven minutes. We need another song.
Speaker 1: We need a song. What should we do? I don't care,
Speaker 1: just start singing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And some of that is working with the directors,
Speaker 2: and I think better directors maybe seamlessly fit songs into
Speaker 2: movies better. And that's you know, as a first time director,
Speaker 2: you're not as good as.
Speaker 1: Because I think they had roughly the same amount of
Speaker 1: songs as the.
Speaker 2: First probably about the same.
Speaker 1: You could have cut that in half.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. That's really not the point. Point.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you didn't have to follow the
Speaker 1: formula of the first one. If you felt a song
Speaker 1: didn't do something for you, then just don't use it.
Speaker 2: Sure, I guess so you're just advocating for Maanitud to
Speaker 2: not be a musical, which is never was, never gonna have.
Speaker 1: To talk about the farmer who's got his saggy boobs.
Speaker 2: Goose synopsis of Moana Too. After receiving an unexpected call
Speaker 2: from her wayfinding ancestors, Mowana must journey to the far
Speaker 2: seas of Oceania and into dangerous, long lost waters for
Speaker 2: an adventure unlike anything she's ever faced. We've mentioned her already,
Speaker 2: but this movie stars Ali E Carvalio as Moana. I
Speaker 2: fucking crush that pronunciation. She's also the singing voice for
Speaker 2: the character. If they do do a live action. I
Speaker 2: think she'd obviously crush it, but she may be aging
Speaker 2: out of the younger Moana.
Speaker 1: So I think she's the highlight of this movie. I
Speaker 1: think if you're gonna take away one bright spot like
Speaker 1: one superstar Top of the Tree, it's her.
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: I think that uh oh, the animators too. Let's not
Speaker 1: slight the animators. The movie looks amazing.
Speaker 2: Beautiful movie. Yeah, Dwayne Johnson aka The Rock as Maui.
Speaker 2: He's good in this He's not as good as he
Speaker 2: is in the first one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he sounds like they could have taken Ai Rock
Speaker 1: and just slapped it in there.
Speaker 2: Some of that is because when we are first introduced
Speaker 2: to him in the first movie, you get You're Welcome,
Speaker 2: which is such a banger of a song, and his
Speaker 2: song actually in this movie might be the best out
Speaker 2: of any of them.
Speaker 1: But Top a Turn Mountain, he's just not.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He was like a little scarier in
Speaker 2: the first one too. I think it's just the character
Speaker 2: works better when he's a little more unknown, and now
Speaker 2: we know he's complete friendly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because in the first one he's come offish,
Speaker 1: but in this one, yeah, he tries to be, but
Speaker 1: you know that he's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the movie is certainly missing like some of
Speaker 2: that strife amongst his characters. Right, everyone just gets along
Speaker 2: because they're all working for the same goal. The first
Speaker 2: one didn't quite have that. They had to come together
Speaker 2: to defeat I forget the lava monster, so it is
Speaker 2: missing that too. That was, yes, but I think it was.
Speaker 2: But they called it something when it was the lava
Speaker 2: muster as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But yeah, really, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: write the movie because I'm a fucking idiot. But maybe
Speaker 1: in this one you have it where Mowana is more
Speaker 1: come offfish towards Maui, where she doesn't she feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, Maui hasn't respected her or something, and you know, respect.
Speaker 2: Can't get no respect.
Speaker 1: What if she suddenly was voiced by Rodney Dangerfield.
Speaker 2: Good who will Ilai uh lalay who a lalay Chung
Speaker 2: as Mony that's the younger, strong dude on the journey
Speaker 2: with Mowana. Rose Matafio as Loto. She is the ship designer.
Speaker 2: She's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: Characters comic reliefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. David Fane as Kayle. That's the old
Speaker 2: farmer dude.
Speaker 1: Other comic relief.
Speaker 2: Yeah, comic relief number two.
Speaker 1: Well, actually i'd say number three. The other young dude
Speaker 1: was also comic relief.
Speaker 2: Ali My Frasier as Matangi, this is the bat lady
Speaker 2: that we see inside the oyster there.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool character, cool, but kind of incomplete.
Speaker 2: Purposefully and I think so that's one of the things
Speaker 2: I noticed. I think, if this ended up being a show,
Speaker 2: she matters more in the show, and then we see
Speaker 2: something in a mid credit scene here that implies she'll
Speaker 2: probably matter.
Speaker 1: I'll do it myself.
Speaker 2: I actually think they purposefully did it like that. By
Speaker 2: the way, I think they purposely were paying homage to that.
Speaker 2: But Kalis Lambert, by the way, stop naming your kids
Speaker 2: Kalisi Jesus Christ, Kalis Lambert, Suda as Samea. This is
Speaker 2: the little sister.
Speaker 1: When you saw the little girl, did you think to
Speaker 1: yourself that the parents made another child just in case
Speaker 1: Mawana was lost?
Speaker 2: A little bit of that, Yeah, because at the end
Speaker 2: of the first one there's no mention of a sister.
Speaker 1: There's such a big age gap. They clearly said, okay.
Speaker 2: They're hedging their bets Mowana is.
Speaker 1: Really good on the sea, but let's bet on the sea.
Speaker 1: Now we have.
Speaker 2: Another Yea Go Star wars alump to Mura Morrison as
Speaker 2: Chief Dewey. That's Moana's father. Nicole Scherzinger Pussycat Girl as Sina,
Speaker 2: that's the mother. Rachel House is Grammatia and good. One
Speaker 2: of your favorites. Alan Tutick is hey.
Speaker 1: Hey, I do love Allentudic not one two.
Speaker 2: The voice cast is great. I have no issue with
Speaker 2: the voice cast. The issue in this movie is that
Speaker 2: the plot isn't all that interesting and there's no real
Speaker 2: conflict between the characters we love, and the songs just
Speaker 2: aren't great. Like, so you throw it together and it's
Speaker 2: a watchable, fun movie, but it's not that memorable. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The first movie, Mowana is fighting an uphill challenge the
Speaker 1: entire time, whether it be against her father, trying to
Speaker 1: get Maui on her side, trying to get the Rock back,
Speaker 1: not the Act of the Rock but the Little Green
Speaker 1: Rock Heart, Oh yeah, the Little Heart and this one
Speaker 1: everyone's on our side. Yeah, everyone's just cheering or on.
Speaker 2: They're all working to achieve the same goal. So it
Speaker 2: like that's where I wonder if if this was imagined
Speaker 2: as a movie originally, there might have been a grander plot.
Speaker 2: I think because it was a television series, they weren't
Speaker 2: counting on this big, amazing, you know, final act and
Speaker 2: the way the movie does. They wanted more consistent fun throughout,
Speaker 2: and I do think it gives you a little bit
Speaker 2: of that. Like I thought it was for something that
Speaker 2: was conceived as a television show, you didn't really notice
Speaker 2: that while watching the movie. I've seen some reviews that said, oh,
Speaker 2: I could clearly tell where you know this was a
Speaker 2: show and this would have been the end of an episode. No, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: The movie had commercial right my movie, I saw a
Speaker 1: commercial every fifteen mins.
Speaker 2: I think those people are lying now. The beginning of
Speaker 2: the editing was a little choppy back and forth between
Speaker 2: Mowana and Maui, but they just wanted to introduce both characters.
Speaker 2: That was probably gonna exist either way. But once after
Speaker 2: the first twenty minutes, like it was pretty seamless. I
Speaker 2: don't know what people were talking about in that respect,
Speaker 2: Mac should.
Speaker 1: We rip through fun factor not fun factor through the gauntlet? Here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, A couple words for each of these categories don't
Speaker 1: go too deep, don't go as deep as the ocean.
Speaker 1: Fun factor, swashbuckling, and it was fun.
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's a good sea adventure.
Speaker 1: Satisfactor not really, No, but I.
Speaker 2: Was also expecting to not really be satisfied, So I'm
Speaker 2: not penalizing it too much for that borometer.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I wasn't bored. I don't think I was bored.
Speaker 1: I might have been, but I'm not sure. Okay, so
Speaker 1: credits to the movie. Will it wane over time? And
Speaker 1: it has already waned since I saw it on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm assuming it's going to because I'm not
Speaker 2: seeking any of the music from the movie, so that's
Speaker 2: almost a guarantee.
Speaker 1: Ah, quarter World. This is better than the nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: five classic water World. Technically, yes, But if you're gonna
Speaker 1: ask me which one i'd rather watch again, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be water World.
Speaker 2: You're right about that. Which one i'd rather rewatch right now?
Speaker 2: It will be water World. So I think it floats.
Speaker 2: I think they both float. They're operating in the same
Speaker 2: same area.
Speaker 1: Maybe Max credit Union Alie Carvalio I believe deserves all
Speaker 1: the credit in this. I just so much life. There's
Speaker 1: so much this vivid.
Speaker 2: Her voice is so crisp, it's so it's like a
Speaker 2: perfect voice.
Speaker 1: It's also it's it's both fun but also demands respect.
Speaker 1: Even though Rodney Dangerfield is the voice of the character.
Speaker 1: If he gets no respect, what I.
Speaker 2: Really like and what bothers the shit out of me
Speaker 2: And a lot of these Disney movies Frozen included, she
Speaker 2: does the character and sings the songs. That doesn't happen
Speaker 2: in Frozen A Dina Manzel. Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about, uh, Frozen, did it before Frozen?
Speaker 2: A lot of those actors voice actors weren't. They wouldn't
Speaker 2: let them sing the songs. Many they had the same
Speaker 2: like two or three people singing the songs through all
Speaker 2: of those movies.
Speaker 1: I really like, like the late eighties, early nineties.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the nineties yeaheah, yeah, and then they
Speaker 2: only had like two movies in between them.
Speaker 1: Do you want Steve from Full House singing you a
Speaker 1: song on a Laddin?
Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying, don't cast Steve from full House?
Speaker 1: Well that was before they casted superstars and like well
Speaker 1: known actors for all of their.
Speaker 2: Ali Carvalio was not a well known actress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got the rock in this Okay.
Speaker 2: That's fair, get that. I just really liked that they
Speaker 2: did that, and they're continuing to do that, and I
Speaker 2: hope that it's a thing going forward. Give give me
Speaker 2: some more unknowns. And I know it's an animated movie,
Speaker 2: but we talked about this in live action too. I
Speaker 2: love going into movie not really knowing where this person
Speaker 2: came from, so I don't have an idea of what
Speaker 2: they should be or shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Mac we go to when life gives you plumbings, you
Speaker 1: make plemonade, and I will take comic relief. Number two.
Speaker 2: I liked h Loto. She was the ship design.
Speaker 1: Yeah number two.
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll give credit to Loto.
Speaker 1: Pants, Tense City, Excite, bike Mania. Did anything in this
Speaker 1: movie get you going? Or did anything make you cry?
Speaker 1: Because animated movies really know how to pull some tears
Speaker 1: out of your eyes. This movie did not do that
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: I think it has a pretty touching moment in the
Speaker 2: final you know, ten minutes, it doesn't really have this big,
Speaker 2: amazing emotional finish the way the first one does, where
Speaker 2: she has this realization and there's a nice moment between
Speaker 2: her and the lava monster. It ends up not being
Speaker 2: the lava monster, right, There's nothing like that in this movie.
Speaker 2: There's just a nice sentimental moment between Maui Mawana and
Speaker 2: some outside factors.
Speaker 1: Because also in the first one, she has a real
Speaker 1: moment of just being down and you feel like you
Speaker 1: might be down and out right. Is there that in
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't really have that, and it definitely needed
Speaker 2: that for.
Speaker 1: Those of you tarty to the Mac and Goop party.
Speaker 1: We rate everything on a forty hot rating system. I
Speaker 1: thought the music fell a little flat to the humor.
Speaker 1: Everyone was saying it's funnier than the first one. I guess,
Speaker 1: but I didn't get any big haha. I've got a
Speaker 1: couple of chuckles. This was swashbuckling, and I love some
Speaker 1: of the voiceover work, but this just feels like an
Speaker 1: extension of the first one, where it's very similar, very
Speaker 1: similar settings too. And I understand you can only do
Speaker 1: so much with traveling the ocean, but it's a lot
Speaker 1: of the same.
Speaker 2: What'd you want different color of water?
Speaker 1: Maybe she starts flying or something and we go into
Speaker 1: the air. Let's change the element I don't. That's not
Speaker 1: really what's not what we're doing here, Oh.
Speaker 2: Shanna, we're talking about like Polynesian nations. This is not
Speaker 2: a weird No.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine hot Dogs.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: I think it's a C C minus.
Speaker 2: I it's a very fair grade gout. So I think
Speaker 2: this movie again was battle, an uphill battle, and I
Speaker 2: wish in this movie someone was battling an uphill battle a.
Speaker 1: Fucking mountain in the ocean. Oh wait, that was the thing,
Speaker 1: wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure it was.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I to say something pretty positive about it for a
Speaker 2: movie that began as a show, a series, a Disney
Speaker 2: Plus series, a streaming series. It looks great and it
Speaker 2: feels like a blockbuster movie. It really does. And it's
Speaker 2: gonna make Bukuo Bucks Banana Land, Buku Bucks Bonanza.
Speaker 1: Cuku Banana Bananza.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, And I think that's truly impressive. It's just
Speaker 2: not great, it's solid. I enjoyed it. I probably will
Speaker 2: never watch it again. I have it at thirty hot Dogs.
Speaker 2: It's my number eighteen movie on the year. Animated movies
Speaker 2: is number three on the year, behind Transformers one and
Speaker 2: way behind the wild Robot, but not too far behind
Speaker 2: Transformers one. It's it's not too far off from that.
Speaker 1: Shall we spoil a little bit?
Speaker 2: Spilized, spileless spiles.
Speaker 1: I want to gets tattoos, so she's not getting Christmas gifts.
Speaker 2: Cud. The premise of this movie is that Mowana and
Speaker 2: her people were in search of signs of other people
Speaker 2: and other islands so they can reconnect and help the
Speaker 2: long term, long term sustainability and viability of their people.
Speaker 2: In a vision, she learns that she might find these
Speaker 2: answers on the lost island of Motufetu, and that holds
Speaker 2: the key to like reconnecting all the people. Voceiana with
Speaker 2: her group in tow they start on this journey towards
Speaker 2: the lost island. On their way, they end up getting
Speaker 2: help from the Kakama. I love those little fucking things.
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh you know what I should have met?
Speaker 1: People were great plumbonade Kakama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. That's on us. Kakamora always pluminade. They're
Speaker 2: fucking great characters, great great design too, and their little
Speaker 2: ship island is awesome. Uh and they're they're also helped
Speaker 2: out by Matangi she's the bat Lady, and she gets
Speaker 2: reconnected with Maui in that little that little clam thing
Speaker 2: clamshell or large clamshell. They all work together to ultimately
Speaker 2: defeat the storm god of Naalo and they end up
Speaker 2: up this Alan of Motu Fetu. But what I want
Speaker 2: to get too is there's a mid credits scene in here.
Speaker 2: Did you stay for the mid credit?
Speaker 1: Oh? You couldn't stop her fine out doing? And then
Speaker 1: Germaine pops out of nowhere. Yeah, you got Nalo songs.
Speaker 1: I'd like to do a song too.
Speaker 2: Who Nalo this storm god that they defeat in this
Speaker 2: movie does? It's a Thanos, It's a Fanos scene. He's
Speaker 2: talking to Matangi, the bat Lady, and out crawls tomatoa
Speaker 2: Jermaine Clement's character from the first movie, and they're basically like,
Speaker 2: let's team up and go after Moana and Maui. So
Speaker 2: I guess we know the plot for Maana three.
Speaker 1: Oh and Mowana is a demigod now yeah.
Speaker 2: So because of her sacrifice to save all of people
Speaker 2: of Oceana, she gets one of those journey tattoos like
Speaker 2: Maui has on her left arm and then her ore
Speaker 2: has like the story on it the way Maui's hook does.
Speaker 2: So she's got some powers now. She did anyways, kind
Speaker 2: of with the water stuff, but she.
Speaker 1: Was able to feel the water and wavefind Also, I
Speaker 1: was I don't know if I was hoping or like,
Speaker 1: when they didn't let this happen, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a cop up. Like so when Maui
Speaker 1: is drained of his powers and he loses his tattoos,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, is he going to be a
Speaker 1: normal human being now and Mowana will be the demi god.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he gets his powers right back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, instantly and instantly. I think I would have been
Speaker 2: a better decision to leave him as a just a
Speaker 2: regular dude, and actually, having rewatched the first one, he
Speaker 2: almost longs to be a regular dude again, you know,
Speaker 2: like when she first meets him and they're talking, and
Speaker 2: then when he like kind of runs away from the
Speaker 2: Lava Monster, he like doesn't really want to be a
Speaker 2: demi god anymore. So I think it would have worked
Speaker 2: for him for that to make that kind of.
Speaker 1: Like at the end of a Laddin when the genie
Speaker 1: is no longer a genie. There you go, He's freed,
Speaker 1: but that also would have been funny if he you know,
Speaker 1: he's happy to be a normal human being again. And
Speaker 1: then you start the third one out and he's like this,
Speaker 1: So being human sucks.
Speaker 2: I do really like his powers, by the way, the
Speaker 2: hook is cool, and then him being able to like
Speaker 2: transmorpho is pretty.
Speaker 1: Can you give me a rotation of five animals that
Speaker 1: you would constantly turn into?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you for sure got to get a sweet
Speaker 2: bird in there, right, you gotta be able to fly?
Speaker 1: Which bird? I like his hawk? Don't take the hawk down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be hawk like. It'd probably be a
Speaker 2: bald eagle. I mean, why wouldn't it, you know, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Have five bald animals, go probably.
Speaker 2: Have like a grizzly in there too, you know, a
Speaker 2: real brawler, brawler of it. Maybe a polar bear actually,
Speaker 2: or even bigger. And then you need something sneaky too,
Speaker 2: like a snake. Sneaky like a snake to slither in places.
Speaker 2: And then you probably need a bug, so that'll be
Speaker 2: the fourth one. Maybe a cockaroach, you know, like cucaracha.
Speaker 2: Get in there, get in out, get out more. Fifth
Speaker 2: one will be interesting. I want to go cheetah just
Speaker 2: to run fast.
Speaker 1: You gotta go water. What are you doing? You're filling
Speaker 1: out your Pokemon line if you need surf.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, I didn't. Yeah, so no cheat to
Speaker 2: give me. Give me a orca orca?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's better. Yeah, he goes. Shark. Orca is the
Speaker 1: absolute right way to go. It's the biggest dolphin in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people like you. They're not afraid of you, right, shark.
Speaker 1: But then you can trick them because you're a killer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, killer whale. You asked me, goot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Having seen Moana two and in the movie Moana to Maui,
Speaker 2: who's back from Moana one. In the movie, he can
Speaker 2: transmorph into animals. Give me a last of five animals
Speaker 2: you would like to transmorph into.
Speaker 1: I'm not prepared for this. I don't know how to answer.
Speaker 1: I would go with a smaller bird, but one also fast.
Speaker 1: You liked you went with a smaller bug to kind
Speaker 1: of sneak around. I'll go with a small bird to
Speaker 1: sneak around.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Are humming birds fast?
Speaker 2: Uh? Probably not as fast as you would like, but
Speaker 2: they're little and they can hover pretty well.
Speaker 1: I don't want that. Actually that sounds terrible.
Speaker 2: You just like sucking sweet sweet nectar all day.
Speaker 1: Give me every animal that's sucks a sweet sweet nectar.
Speaker 1: I want five nectar sucking animals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't sloths do that too, stick their tongues and
Speaker 2: it suck nectar.
Speaker 1: I want five long tongued animals. I want an ant eater.
Speaker 1: Gene Simmons, No, you you took Orca. Orca is my
Speaker 1: go to.
Speaker 2: Orca is a good one. Yeah, we could share Orca.
Speaker 1: Okay, I go tiger if i'm you know, with one
Speaker 1: big u a tiger.
Speaker 2: Beat a grizzly or a polar bear. That'd be a
Speaker 2: good fight. I know they did it in one of
Speaker 2: those shows once.
Speaker 1: I'd probably take. I don't know. I think the tiger
Speaker 1: is the ap predator. I think tiger's the apex predator.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think both a tiger and a bear probably
Speaker 2: beat a lion.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think tigers are slightly bigger than lions. I
Speaker 1: might be wrong, though.
Speaker 2: No, tigers are definitely bigger than Yeah, what can fly?
Speaker 1: Give me one of the flying monkeys from the Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz. They arms? Then I need something, something useful.
Speaker 1: Can't all be about fighting and whatnot sure?
Speaker 2: An, Okay, you might die pretty quick.
Speaker 1: I might. I might die with all these animals pretty quick.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know another one.
Speaker 2: I just imagine as the orc a going too deep
Speaker 2: and not being able to surface some time.
Speaker 1: I'd only go like one foot deep every single time.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 2: You just want people to see your fin always.
Speaker 1: I'd have a real erect fin.
Speaker 2: Do a monkey in a separate flying thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, give me a give. I'd have three knives on me,
Speaker 1: two hands, one tail.
Speaker 2: Oh, gorilla would be a good one. But I feel
Speaker 2: I feel like both a bear and a tiger beat
Speaker 2: a gorilla. Right, that's a good fight too.
Speaker 1: One second best animals.
Speaker 2: I think tiger's number one. Admittedly, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Tigers to transform into let's see what octopus?
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be useful. That would definitely be useful.
Speaker 2: You could get in and out of anywhere.
Speaker 1: And amphibian would also be good. You can breathe air
Speaker 1: and in the water.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A fox, No, it's Korean mythology. They can shape.
Speaker 2: Shift, so you'd have to become the fox to shape
Speaker 2: shift in the first place.
Speaker 1: I guess i'd start as a fox, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could just be a fox in your full form.
Speaker 1: Here we go from top tens, top ten animals. You
Speaker 1: wish you could be eagle?
Speaker 2: Wish?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Wolf Ah. I would go big cat
Speaker 1: over big dog. Agreed, they have lion. I would go
Speaker 1: with tiger over lion for sure. Shark, give me the orca,
Speaker 1: a house cat.
Speaker 2: They get an apple day.
Speaker 1: It's not bad, not bad at all. Cheetah, you can
Speaker 1: run fast, house dog, dolphin. They're just coming up with
Speaker 1: all the things we can call a green falcon, fastest pear.
Speaker 2: Green falcon is technically the fastest animal on earth because
Speaker 2: when it dive bombs it hits like two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty miles an hour or something like that. But the
Speaker 2: fastest land animal is cheetah.
Speaker 1: Mountain goat. First comment on this, It would be cool
Speaker 1: to live in the mountains like a mountain goat.
Speaker 2: Mountain goats are interesting because I don't know how they
Speaker 2: don't fall off the mountain.
Speaker 1: T rex.
Speaker 2: I didn't consider a dinosaur. A dinosaur would be sweet.
Speaker 1: I might go dinosaur. I might go all dinosaur, like
Speaker 1: a pterodactyl.
Speaker 2: That might be sick.
Speaker 1: Okay, so pterodactyl is my bird? Yeah, crocodile elephants, Komodo dragon.
Speaker 1: How long is this top ten list?
Speaker 2: This would have been a good open for USCOO.
Speaker 1: It's more interested than the movie. Let's get into Maxack
Speaker 1: and ma Sack. Could be anything, It could be a boat.
Speaker 1: And this week Mac, with about one hundred more of
Speaker 1: these planned and soon to be released Disney sequels, I
Speaker 1: ask you to rank them the Disney sequels, and I
Speaker 1: am including Pixar movies only theatrical. So Aladdin, King of
Speaker 1: Thieves that would have been number one not on the board.
Speaker 2: So we got thirteen in total? Yes? Is that right?
Speaker 1: Fourteen?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I wasn't sure if you were counting that
Speaker 2: last one that got a theatrical theatrical release.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't even know if I've seen it
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have seen.
Speaker 1: I think I have.
Speaker 2: Of the fourteen, i've seen twelve. I haven't seen Fantasia
Speaker 2: two thousand. I actually still haven't seen Frozen two.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the first Fantasia? Yeah, of course it's
Speaker 1: fucking wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what dumb question. I don't haven't seen the first Fantasia.
Speaker 1: I've never seen Citizen Kane. I don't know. I had.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 2: Uh good. I didn't straight up rank them. I tier
Speaker 2: to them. I know the people like a good tier.
Speaker 2: I got four tiers here.
Speaker 1: I can tear within my ranking. So don't poo pooh me,
Speaker 1: don't poo poo me.
Speaker 2: I'll give you the tear as you throw whatever. Movies
Speaker 2: in here. We got forty doggers. I just have one
Speaker 2: Toy Story two.
Speaker 1: Toy Story two, and I've also recently rewatched it. It
Speaker 1: is such a good movie. It is easily the best
Speaker 1: of the Toy story movies.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were queuing up another movie when
Speaker 2: you were saying that, Yes, Toy Story two is my
Speaker 2: favorite Toy Story movie. I think it's the best Toy
Speaker 2: story movie, and by far, I think the best sequel
Speaker 2: out of all of these.
Speaker 1: It is just complex enough, like story wise, where you're
Speaker 1: still willing to buy into these these toys out on
Speaker 1: this adventure without being like, how are they getting away
Speaker 1: with all of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, they They did a wonderful job recreating the
Speaker 2: magic and then doing it better than the first movie.
Speaker 1: Newman's in it.
Speaker 2: Frazier and there is great. I mean that spawned a
Speaker 2: whole other fucking movie that not a ton of people like,
Speaker 2: but it did. From there, I have really good movies now.
Speaker 2: I actually consider this probably two steps down, two tiers down,
Speaker 2: okay from forty Doggers. I think there's a massive gap
Speaker 2: between Storyge.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a massive but go.
Speaker 2: And everything else and this tier goo. I just have two.
Speaker 2: I have Toy Story four and Incredibles too, both movies
Speaker 2: that are really good but are nowhere near the top.
Speaker 2: It's nowhere near Toy Story or Toy Story two, and
Speaker 2: Incredibles two is nowhere near incredible pace.
Speaker 1: I have Toy Story three and Incredibles too. In this one,
Speaker 1: Toy Story three also, I just rewatched all the Toy
Speaker 1: Story movies. Toy Story three. People talk a lot about,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh, it's so emotional watching the toys going
Speaker 1: toward the furnace. No, everything with Andy in that movie.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just me as a father, you know
Speaker 1: now that you are seeing the kid that you grew
Speaker 1: up when he's your age in nineteen ninety five, and
Speaker 1: now he's going off into college, he's getting rid of
Speaker 1: all of his stuff, and it's teasing the passage of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't like that movie.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think it's an amazing movie.
Speaker 1: And him giving all of his stuff away to Bonnie
Speaker 1: at the end, that's more tier jury. Then all the
Speaker 1: Toys in the furnace, but also toys in the Furnace
Speaker 1: kind of tear jerking, if we're gonna go out, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go out together.
Speaker 2: Toy Story three so close to being good and it's not.
Speaker 2: It's tough for me. And then my next tier Goo
Speaker 2: I have. I like them, but I don't really care
Speaker 2: if you do or don't. So these are the movies
Speaker 2: that if someone said I didn't like, I be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fine with me. Three movies in here Goo, which
Speaker 2: again speaks to the quality I think of these izzy
Speaker 2: sweakels most of them. Half of them are below this tier.
Speaker 2: Ralph Breaks the Internet, Mawana two, and The Rescuers Rescuers
Speaker 2: down Under. Three movies that if someone really liked, I
Speaker 2: beIN Yeah, I get it. Three movies that if people
Speaker 2: didn't like, I also get that. I also get that.
Speaker 2: I think these movies are good, not great, and they
Speaker 2: have They're flawed movies for sure.
Speaker 1: I also have The Rescuers down under it the first
Speaker 1: Disney sequel, and I also have Mawana too in here,
Speaker 1: but I would also put Toy Story four in here.
Speaker 1: Toy Story four is very good, but it does get
Speaker 1: to like many points in the movie. And I understand
Speaker 1: that it's not a realistic movie. It is toys that
Speaker 1: come to life and they go off on crazy adventures. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's many a point in this movie where I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, how are these things not being caught? How
Speaker 1: are these things driving a car right now? And I
Speaker 1: understand they drive a car and Toy Story two as well,
Speaker 1: but there's a bit too much going on here.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't agree. I think it's that movie surprises
Speaker 2: shot out of me. I borderline loved that movie. But
Speaker 2: that's okay that you don't go. Here's the tier where
Speaker 2: everything else falls into. Either I straight up don't like
Speaker 2: these or I don't remember one fucking thing about them. Now,
Speaker 2: admittedly I don't really hate any of these. Two of
Speaker 2: them are close to hate or disdain, but for the
Speaker 2: most part, I just straight up didn't like these or
Speaker 2: don't remember anything about them. Inside out two, I don't
Speaker 2: really care for the first one. This is much as
Speaker 2: the same. I knew what it was, what I was
Speaker 2: getting into Marsh's University, just missed the mark.
Speaker 1: Boring.
Speaker 2: I hate it doesn't work for me. I have Toy
Speaker 2: Story three here for a lot of the same reasons.
Speaker 2: Just doesn't work for me. Cars three and Cars two.
Speaker 2: I don't remember one fucking thing about either of these movies,
Speaker 2: not one, not one thing. So they're here finding Dori.
Speaker 2: This is the closest one to me hating this movie.
Speaker 2: Just like bothered the fuck out of me.
Speaker 1: I did complete I did grab of a garbage movie.
Speaker 2: I did not like this movie at all. I don't
Speaker 2: even really like Dory as a character. I think it
Speaker 2: was stupid that they she got her own thing, but whatever.
Speaker 1: I also hate it if they brought in Marlin and
Speaker 1: Nemo into that movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're one hundred percent right about that. And again,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Frozen two. I have a I have
Speaker 2: a suspicion that Frozen two would get into I like them,
Speaker 2: but I don't care if you if you, if you
Speaker 2: do type type of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would split my categories into two here where
Speaker 1: I think that Frozen two, Cars three, Inside Out two,
Speaker 1: and Ralph Breaks the Internet are solid enough. Frozen two,
Speaker 1: I think it overly complicates way too much of it.
Speaker 1: There's one decent song in there. The songs do not
Speaker 1: match up well against the first movie. That was the
Speaker 1: movie that really tipped me off of what Mowana too
Speaker 1: was gonna be a lot of the same, not a
Speaker 1: lot of great music. Cars three, I think is actually
Speaker 1: a pretty good rocky movie if you want to look
Speaker 1: at like that. Well, Lightning McQueen's older. He has to
Speaker 1: train a new car to beat Armie Hammer, and we
Speaker 1: all know Armie Hammer is a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Cood to that point. By the way, when comparing Mowana
Speaker 2: and Frozen, because I know Frozen was a lot of
Speaker 2: people's Moana before Mowanna. To me, the characters in Mowana
Speaker 2: are much more likable than a Frozen Frozen. I kind
Speaker 2: of hate all of the.
Speaker 1: Characters inside out too, and Ralph breaks the Internet not
Speaker 1: my favorite. Whatever, then I would go to the bottom
Speaker 1: of the bin. I think the I think these are
Speaker 1: all bad movies, Okay. Cars two is like a James
Speaker 1: Bond movie for some reason.
Speaker 2: I am aware that a lot of people hate Cars two.
Speaker 2: I don't have that feeling towards it, but only because
Speaker 2: I have no feeling towards it. I don't remember one
Speaker 2: thing from the movie.
Speaker 1: If you opened Lightning McQueen's past your door, would you
Speaker 1: see a giant brain in there?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Oh because I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Have we seen into any of the cars and cars before?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: What a mystery?
Speaker 1: Would you see a skeleton?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. We'll see one day.
Speaker 1: Cars Open the Door. That's what's be called Cars four
Speaker 1: Opened the Door. Monsters You, I hated. I could not
Speaker 1: stand Monsters You, and I love the first movie. The
Speaker 1: second one was just like, how can we use these
Speaker 1: characters again?
Speaker 2: College That bothersh it out of me because it also
Speaker 2: wreckcon some things for the first movie, and the first
Speaker 2: movie is probably a forty dog movie and that that
Speaker 2: second one is.
Speaker 1: Just horseshit and Finding Dory sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Finding Dory does suck.
Speaker 1: And I can't think if I.
Speaker 2: Find the Nemo might be a forty dogger as well.
Speaker 2: Like That's that's the problem with some of these is
Speaker 2: like we they absolutely crushed the first iteration of them,
Speaker 2: and then they're just like, ah, fuck, we gotta figure
Speaker 2: out another story. Well you didn't. You didn't have to.
Speaker 2: You just didn't have to.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, creating something new is tough, and like
Speaker 1: getting idiots like us to like talk about this stuff
Speaker 1: is usually eat a sequel to get the ip going
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk. But like you can make new stuff.
Speaker 2: What year did Finding Nemo come out?
Speaker 1: Two thousand and three?
Speaker 2: Okay, so then there's a little bit of a gap
Speaker 2: after that before having something as successful as that. Frozen
Speaker 2: might have been the next one that was that successful,
Speaker 2: which is probably why they went back to all these sequels.
Speaker 2: The Cars movies made a bazillion dollars, but I don't
Speaker 2: think I don't think adults really like the Cars movies right.
Speaker 1: Oh no, right after Finding So Nemo was two thousand
Speaker 1: and three, Yeah, that's what I said, than The Incredibles
Speaker 1: and No. Four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so those two I would have switched them. I
Speaker 2: would have thought Incredibles came out first. But after that
Speaker 2: there's the gap until we get to Frozen.
Speaker 1: No after that. So Cars makes a ton of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Cars just like didn't register at me.
Speaker 1: Finish.
Speaker 2: Cars is more kids whereas But my point is Cars
Speaker 2: is knocked out like, so I'm making all the Disney
Speaker 2: movies and we did Car the first carrs movie is
Speaker 2: very low on my list, Yes, very low.
Speaker 1: But then you follow up Cars in twenty oh seven
Speaker 1: with Ratitui, twentyh eight, is Wally twenty oh nine, is
Speaker 1: Up twenty ten? Is Toy Story three? Like that's not
Speaker 1: a bad run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I was thinking just Disney, those are
Speaker 2: the Pixar movies.
Speaker 1: Right, because I don't love the next run of Pixar
Speaker 1: movies with Cars too Brave. Mon Frog was seven, Frozen
Speaker 1: was thirty nine, from Tangled was eleven, Frozen was thirteen.
Speaker 2: And what was before Purchase of the Frog? What was
Speaker 2: the last Bolt?
Speaker 1: Was it Bolt?
Speaker 2: That movie kind of stinks?
Speaker 1: Was it Bolt?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I guess Pixar has been carrying the load here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say I guess Pixar Star Wars and Marvel.
Speaker 2: But to that point, Frozen and Moan are probably more
Speaker 2: successful than all of those besides Toy Story.
Speaker 1: Do you think Mowana would fit in well with the
Speaker 1: X Men with her? We know that Elsa would.
Speaker 2: But also definitely would.
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Speaker 1: for a news dump and then Craven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna miss a screening on working, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to fucking try to see it like Thursday,
Speaker 2: early Friday.
Speaker 1: I'm also excited to talk to you about the Bob
Speaker 1: Dylan movie. Please see it? So, okay, and your dad,
Speaker 1: bring your dad? Does your dad like Bob Dylan?
Speaker 2: Not really?
Speaker 1: Bring my father in law?
Speaker 2: And I think that's why I have the same feeling
Speaker 2: towards him my dad. I think we all recognize how
Speaker 2: great of a songwriter he is. I hate his voice. Dude,
Speaker 2: hate his voice.
Speaker 1: You know what's good in the movie, though, is that
Speaker 1: they really drive home that he's an asshole, but he's
Speaker 1: really unlikable to everyone around him.
Speaker 2: Did you like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, did your father in law?
Speaker 1: Yeah? My father in law is maybe the biggest Bob
Speaker 1: Dylan fan I have ever met, and he also was
Speaker 1: It was like watching a Marvel movie where like you're
Speaker 1: sitting back going like, oh, that's so and so, that's
Speaker 1: so and so. He told me everyone on the screen
Speaker 1: in every single scene, whether it was a producer, a
Speaker 1: board op, someone work in the fucking Oregon in the back.
Speaker 1: He knew them all.
Speaker 2: So is he a big Bob Dylan guy just because
Speaker 2: he's a big music guy or was Bob Dylan like
Speaker 2: huge when he was a kid in the Philippines. No.
Speaker 1: I think it's more that he's a big music guy
Speaker 1: and he loves the sound of like the sixties, early seventies.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, because he's also a big Beatles.
Speaker 1: Have you heard the Beatles? He likes the Beatles as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what, the best Bob Dylan movie is
Speaker 2: Hurricane starring Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say, the one where he was
Speaker 1: played by eight different people. One of them was Kate Blanchette,
Speaker 1: the other was a black child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: It was called I'm Not Really There or something.
Speaker 2: You know. You know, it's gonna be me and my
Speaker 2: relationship with that movie in the theaters.
Speaker 1: I'm not really there or something. There you go, No,
Speaker 1: go see it. I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 2: It, all right, all right, I like it?
Speaker 1: So I like it.
Speaker 2: Did you love it? Or did you just like it?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Timmy Shall's was that good? Then Oscar Worthy?
Speaker 1: That's what always happens.
Speaker 2: So Mangold will get nominated for director then probably probably?
Speaker 1: Well okay, yeah, all right, how does it feel?
Speaker 2: I think if you and I sat in the room
Speaker 2: for four hours and fucked around a little bit with
Speaker 2: our voices, we could come up with a better, better
Speaker 2: version of any Bob don't song No.
Speaker 1: No, I guarantee you you mean singing wise, Yes, no,
Speaker 1: we can't. I'm the least talented person in the world.
Speaker 1: I singooes with a lot of things. I don't sing karaoke.
Speaker 2: I sing karaoke. So we got that going for us, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So you know, what we're gonna do for that podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you a giant sheet of lyrics
Speaker 1: and you can read to me. All right, sounds good, Okay.
Speaker 1: Tuesdays are Goose Days. I Abuse Kangaroos, Team Burton.
Speaker 2: Bye. Please flip the cassette over to side B to
Speaker 2: continue the adventure.
Speaker 1: Now it's time for girls jumping on trampolines.